July 24, 2025 • 25 mins
0:00-13:10 – JMV is joined first by Colts DL Tyquan Lewis. First, Lewis describes life working under new DC Lou Anarumo to this point in the offseason. Looking at a broader perspective, it’s been a tough road for Lewis in his career so far- the defensive lineman dives into his perseverance. Plus, they dive into Lewis’s hometown & his shared love for cars with JMV.
13:11-25:20 – JMV speaks with The Dean, Mike Chappell, of FOX59/CBS4. Mike & JMV start on the Bernhard Raimann situation after he told Jake Query on The Fan this afternoon that he is far apart from the Colts on contract talks. They hit the QB competition, the expectations that the fans have for this team and what the defense could look like.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Joining us now the Andy Moore Automotive Group hootline. He
is with the Colts, a member of that defense learning
some new things. I'm assuming the veteran Taekwon Lewis joins
us now. Taekwan, thank you for the time. How are you?
Speaker 2 (00:12):
Yes, I appreciate it. Thank you for allowing me come on.
Speaker 1 (00:14):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (00:15):
Pretty well.
Speaker 1 (00:15):
So well we're going to we're going to dive in
a little bit to Tee Town and your community celebration
in your hometown of North Carolina. And also I've been
told from a mutual acquaintance that you're a big time
car guy, so we're gonna get into that a little
bit too. Yes, I've done my damn research, Taekwon, I
(00:37):
appreciate it. Man. Taekwon Lewis joins us. Let's start right here,
transition from one coordinator to the other. You go from
Gus Bradley now and what he does and what he
wants to now something completely different to lou Anarumo. How
is that transitional process going so far?
Speaker 2 (00:54):
Oh it's been great. Man. Louis very hands on, very
very very starring into the detail. He's very I guess
he has a big playbook. Let's let's say that Lou
he has a lot of things to offer to the defense,
gets a lot of guys in great positions to be successful.
Speaker 1 (01:13):
For those that are kind of curious, I'm curious, I'll
talk to Nick Cross, your teammate yesterday about this. But
your thoughts on what fans will see, maybe some of
the nuances and differences that they will see, or maybe
even better yet, what they won't see that you can
talk about right now that they can expect anything stand
out to you.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
Yes, I think you'll see a very disciplined product on
the field. I think you'll see a lot of great
plays being made by a lot of great players on
the field. Each and every one of the guys are
brought into what Lou's bringing to the table. You know,
this thing goes as the players go and coaches coach
players player. I think Lou is a great coach and
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he's been doing a great job for us so far,
and we're thankful for what happened here in Indy.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
Yeah, he has Taekwon Lewis coach camp joining us on
Andy More Automotive Group. Hootline is this meaning? Is this
much of a change for you just individually speaking and
your responsibilities at all or does most of that still
remain the same.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
Depends. Uh, Lou has a lot of a lot of
defenses to offer. I think sometimes we uh we we
learn new stuff every day, new terminology, like I said,
a lot of different fronts. Uh. He's like a mass
scientist sometimes, so some of his new some of his
uh I'm not say recycled information, but it's it's a
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new language sometimes.
Speaker 1 (02:39):
Does it take a minute to get or because you've
done this basically all of your life now and learn
new things, is it just like secondhand nature to you by.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
Now, well, believe it or not. I've been in the
same kind of defense all my license, like Little League,
So some of the stuff we do is totally different
than me. And uh, it's but I'm a fast run
I'm a very very smart guy. So I just I
learned multiple ways and I'm just picking it up as
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as I go.
Speaker 1 (03:09):
I'm trying to picture Taekwon Lewis in one of his cars,
one of his rides with the playbook in hand, studying,
doing a little cramming for anything like that. That doesn't
take place. It just all kind of flows for you.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
Huh. Not much of Kramer. You know, I look at
it on the on the projective, I write it down,
I might look over it again and it's like second nature.
It just comes to me sometimes.
Speaker 1 (03:35):
That's that Taekwon lewis on they anymore out about a
group hotline? How do you feel at this point in
your career right now? There's been a lot of battles
and when I think about you, when they said that
you're going to come on, Kantu said, hey, Taekwan's going
to join you tomorrow. I think about the word perseverance.
What do you think about in thinking about your career
to this point with the Colts?
Speaker 2 (03:54):
Oh? Man, it's been great. Uh. You know, I spent
some times when you where we have setbacks and stuff
like that. But you know, what good is the story
if you don't have anything to overcome. So, like you said,
perseverance is just great to have, especially in my corner,
you know, just to get through anything and everything that
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life has brought my way.
Speaker 1 (04:16):
Has that been basically you in a nutshell going all
the way back to Tarborough and North Carolina on other day?
Has that been you persevering?
Speaker 2 (04:24):
Oh? Yeah, any and every chance I could get, you know, well,
the good, bad, ugly and different. You know, I'm always grateful.
You know, any opportunity I get to do anything in life,
I just try to like take make the most of it.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
Tarboro, North Carolina, celebrated a community Day not too long ago,
and you are the emphasis of that. I come from
a very small town, even smaller than that in southern Indiana,
and I know what it means to go and come
from a small community and to give back and to
be a part of that because you're heart and your
soul never leaves. You may be here, but it never
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leaves where you grow up.
Speaker 2 (04:59):
Like that.
Speaker 1 (04:59):
How special of a moment was that for you this summer?
Speaker 2 (05:05):
Oh, it was a great moment just to go back
and see everybody from my youth and like everybody from
the hometown that's played a part in helping me become
the Taekwon Lewis I am today. You know, it was
just great just to give back and give everybody opportunity
just to see like what life has to offer as
far as like outside of Tarboro, and you know, just
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help make your community a better place as well.
Speaker 1 (05:28):
On the banks of the Tar River, I believe around
Rocky Mount, North Carolina and that metropolitan area is Tarboro,
North Carolina. I did look this up. You there are
a lot of athletic dudes, a lot of notables coming
from your area. Holy crap, Yes, sir, A.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
Lot of a lot of athletes coming out of Tarboro. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (05:50):
And you know what, what's.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
Not a lot of winning. A lot of winning football
and a lot of winning everything there, you know, so
very athletic.
Speaker 1 (05:58):
Yeah, and I'm thinking Taekwon. I'm looking this and it's
not just in football. It's it's football, It's it's baseball.
Mike Caldwell was a former Major league pitcher from there.
It's basketball. I just watched Montrez Harrold play in the
TBT over the weekend. Yeah, for his former Louisville team.
Trent Tucker, who played it at Minnesota, was a noted
three point shooter. I think for the Knicks for the
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most part, people around here will remember him. It's like
a who's who of athletes and stars from your community.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
It is. It's a lot of gray athletes over there
in Tallboro. Man, me, myself, Todd Gurly to Kobe Coolefield,
Sean Jon, Donald, Frank, It's a lot.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
Kelvin Bryant, Yeah, Kelvin Bryant. I should mention him too, Yeah,
and I should mention Couter from Dukes of Hazzard. I
think it's also from your community.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
It's a lot of people, man, a lot of a
lot going on in small town. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
Taekwon lewis with us, and we'll transition from Cooter who
worked on cars famously on Dukes of Hazzard or the
television show Ben Jones, the actor to you. I have
been told by a mutual acquaintance that you are a
big time car dude. Is this true?
Speaker 2 (07:05):
Yes, sir, I am. I've been a car enthusiasm my
entire life. I think.
Speaker 1 (07:09):
All right, so what is what is? What would be
among your favorites? You can go with a singular favorite,
plural favorites. What do you what do you like the most?
Speaker 2 (07:20):
Right now, I'll say my favorite car to drive is
a Posture.
Speaker 1 (07:26):
Yes, this is this is exactly the car that it
was described to me right here. But my yeah, but
but Michelle, Michelle has one that is white.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
Yes, yes, I think that's a that's a that's the
best car to drive. I think it's the ultimate driving.
The scene if you like going in and out occurs
down and around. But my favorite car it's up in
the air. Man, I built the truck seventy one ten,
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let's see. I also I also like the four Galaxy,
but I think the next project would definitely be sixty
seven Coolar the x R seven. So that's that's probably
one of my favorites. Does man, we move on to
a Mustang?
Speaker 1 (08:17):
Is your galaxy in honor of the patrol Car and
Andy Griffiths show from Maybury, North MA.
Speaker 2 (08:23):
Again not as my grandfather's.
Speaker 1 (08:28):
Now it does it got hydraulics in it? Do you do?
You go all the way with.
Speaker 2 (08:33):
No, it's just all chrome. Nice nice car, fully start.
I won't get a new carburetor for it. That's about it.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
I love this man, this is a hell of a conversation.
It's funny. I didn't I didn't know this about you,
and I think this would be there's a sweeps week
local TV wise the sweeps week, I think, uh promo
segment where it is written all over it probably giving
somebody some insight right here right.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
Never know.
Speaker 1 (09:01):
I will tell you this in closing. I know you're
learning a lot again, a new system and all that.
With lou Anarumo out at Colts Camp right now. But
I also my first car was a Porsche. True story,
Oh wow, it was. Were you nineteen seventy four, I'm
fifty five. I was a class of eighty eight. But
I had a nineteen seventy four Porsche nine fourteen. It
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was a two seater, mid engine. So what it was, taekwon.
It was a German seventies version of the Pontiac Fierro,
is what it was. This is kind of what it was,
a German Fierro if you remember the Fierro from the
nineteen eighties Pontiac made. It was a mid engine. It
was awesome. I thought it was like magnum p I
driving around in it, right But where we're from, because
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we grew up in really small towns, we drove around
before we got our license. And I did that too,
and I'm assuming you probably did as well. I just
I wrecked that. I ten canned the Porsche nine fourteen though, yeah, well,
don't ever be in an accident, and sure as he'll
never be in an accident in a Porsche nine fourteen,
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nineteen seventy four mid engine German Fierro because it was
zero fun right there. But I can always say, I eight, man,
I I should have gone to the Junkyard and ripped
the logo and the emblem off the front. I will
never forgive myself, even after I record, for not doing
that because that was what was important. It was the
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emblem on the front which was most important to me.
So yeah, true story. Uh Porsche Brothers right here, Taekwon
Lewis and JMV just having a car conversation on the
Anymore Automotive Group on line. Hey, we'll do this again soon.
Stay healthy, keep after it, continue to persevere. Always a
great conversation. Fantastic having you on the show. And we'll
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see you when we get up there for a night
practice or two.
Speaker 2 (10:53):
Okay, yes, sir, I appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (10:56):
You got it, Taekwon, thank you very much. That is
Taekwon Lewis on the Andy Moore Automotive Group potline. We
are Porsche Bros. Not quite is stratospherically better than mine? Man,
mine was awesome, awesome. I thought I was like magnum
(11:17):
Pi without the mustache. You're rolling around. I'm fifteen before
I get my license, and I'm not saying anything out
of school. I think we all did that in the
country back in the day cruising around. You ever seen
the video to Tears for Fears and Everybody Wants to
Rule the World. I think it's rolling Oars the Ball
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and Kurt Smith. I think Oars the Ball is like
rolling around maybe Kurt Smith rolling around in a top
with a top down in a two seat car in
that video the entirety of the time. That's kind of
what I thought. I'd play songs for the Big Chair
and kind of crank it up, Tears for Fears and
drive around because this was a target top convertible. And unfortunately,
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much like Hammer and Fry did in Farris Beeler's Day Off,
I killed the car very unfortunate, the portion nine fourteen
mid engine and what we described as the German Fiuerrero.
And let me tell you this, the hill Billies back
at Eastern Green when they did shop class went out
to it and couldn't figure out where the hell the
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engine was. It was classic stuff right there back in
nineteen eighty five eighty six. So Taekwon lewis always a
good conversation car guy, celebrated in his hometown, which we
absolutely love to see that and a member of the
Colts Defense again his perseverance is something that certainly should
be discussed, especially at the outset of this season. Quick break,
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well come back, We're live at Taylor's Pub. I would
love to see you, Brent Holverson rejoins. On the other side,
it is a big day for us on this tavern
tour stop heaven Hild Distillery just a little bit, shall
I say, east of ditch on eighty sixth Street, Taylor's Pub, Greenbrier.
We would love to see you. Stuff to give away
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and more on the inbound. This is ninety three to
five and one oh seven five the Fan from CBS
four and Fox fifty nine. It is Mike Chappell. You
probably heard the intro right there with Jake's conversation earlier
today with Bernard Ryman negotiation tactics that obviously the Colts
are going to realize what they have, what is necessary,
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the value of a left tackle, and at some point
a deal is going to get done, right.
Speaker 3 (13:32):
Yeah, And they've got gosh six seven eight major players
whose contracts are up. Nick Cross, Alec Peers, Uh you
get from Daniel Jones, Quitty pay in there in Ryman
it to be is at the top of the list,
you know, I sort of think that that ownership has
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taking a wait and see approach on a lot of
these guys, to see where these guys are at the
end of the season team wise, is it headed in
the right direction to do they need to make major change.
Having said that you need a left tackle, I could
argue that maybe if there's a change, the new guys
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wouldn't value Alec Pierce that high, or or quitty pay
or whatever. And I value Alec Pierce a lot, but
I don't care who is running this team. You need
a left tackle, and Bernie's gonna get paid. It's going
to be I think I went and looked at the
top eleven left tackles average twenty million, and there's a
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four or five right tackles making nasz He's gonna get it.
It's just coming to something, to some agreement. Maybe it's
early in the process. I don't know. Chris Ballard never
discusses contracts because that's just not part of you who
he is. And I understand that generally deadlines spur action.
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I don't know what the deadline is a Bernie. He's
not gonna hold out, He's not gonna leave camp. As
he knows he's he's under contract this year. All I
know is that if he has another good year, it's
not going to get cheaper to sign him.
Speaker 2 (15:21):
So uh.
Speaker 3 (15:23):
But again, he there's no reason to give a hometown
discount there. Anyone who does that in any pro league
is getting bad advice. He'll get paid. I think he
gets done here. Whether it gets done before the season starts,
I don't know. The fact our talking is encouraging, it
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really is so. And again, this is a guy that's
still growing into the position. You know he was he
was late to play left or to play tackle, and
had that really bad start in as a rookie, and
he's got and better every time he stepped in the field.
They'll get Bernie done. I just don't know when.
Speaker 1 (16:07):
All right, So, first two days of practice, what's your
understanding of what you've seen at the quarterback position, Mike.
Speaker 2 (16:15):
It's an open competition.
Speaker 3 (16:17):
They've each taken sixteen snaps each day with the ones
and the twos. The first day, Jones started the practice
with the ones and then it rotates to Richardson later,
and today it was the other way around, Richardson first.
So they're going to get the same amount of reps
for the most part, and we're out there charting them
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and their numbers aren't great, but it's two days in
and you know, I and again I'm out there with
Joel Ericson and Steven and James Boyd and we're all
Chartingy's and looking and you know, that was a pretty
good throw and that was crappy, But that's what you do.
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That's what we do. And maybe fans get tired of
the daily charting where they are, but that's that's all
we've got to do with these guys. So you know,
I'm curious where it goes. I think where it needs
to go is that Richardson needs to be the starter.
And unless he just has a bad training camp, which
I don't think he will uh training training camp in
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preseason games, I think he needs to be the starter.
If you boy if you listen to Chris Ballard and
even with Carly in her interview on Colts dot Com,
they need to find out what they have with Anthony Richardson. Yes,
the short term is important because you got to win now,
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but they've got to find at the end of the
at the end of his season, they have to know
what they've got they just have to. And if that
means starting him this year and he plays well and
doesn't get hurt, then.
Speaker 2 (17:58):
You know what you've got.
Speaker 3 (17:59):
But if it mean he goes out there and starts
a couple of games and gets hurt, then you know
what you've got. You know you've got to find something
else next year. Boy, you've got to come out of
this year just knowing what you've got. One way or
the other.
Speaker 1 (18:14):
I think I don't. Don't you You figured out either way, though,
don't you, Mike. I mean, if Danny Jones would, so
be it. I mean it's just to me. To me,
I don't give a damn who ends up stepping up
as long as somebody does. Because I can tell you this,
I feel as if I have a finger on the
pulse of the interest level of Colts fans. And I
can't remember a time when we've had a group that
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is as less juiced about the start of a season
right now.
Speaker 2 (18:40):
And I don't disagree.
Speaker 3 (18:43):
And we were talking up at Westfield about how during
this off season, the entire offseason, there was no no
national buzz on the Colts. Uh, They're just I mean
what I mean, You're not going to draw I think
the getting Mooney Ward and in cam Bonham was huge. Huge,
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getting Tyler Warren was huge. But you know, no one
got excited about that Daniel Jones and Richardson quarterback competition.
They just didn't. And the only way you create that
this team creates buzz now is to win. That we've
taught this schedule is it is set up. It is
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set up for these guys to get off to a
good start and put themselves into position to have some
kind of a meaningful season. And if they if they
don't take advantage that early part of the season, I
don't know where this goes. Uh And you're right, whether
whether it's Richardson or Jones, it's got to happen. But
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at some at some level, you've got to know what
you've got with the third bit or the fourth pick
in the twenty three draft. You've got to know what
direction this team takes. Going forward to.
Speaker 1 (20:04):
My chapel of CBS four and Fox fifty nine, he's
onthing Andy mooree out of Moutive Group pile Line. Our
Taffa tour stop is at Taylor's Pub, West eighty sixth Streets.
Our location in Greenbrier, A little East. We are of
Ditch Road. So in consecutive days I've had on Nick
Cross and Taekwon Lewis, and I've asked about the adjustments
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that are being made from an old system to a
new system. Defensively, they've been very understated in their description.
What have you seen compared to what Gus Bradley liked
to do, to that of what lou Anarumo is installing
with his group.
Speaker 3 (20:41):
Right now, we're noticing tider coverage in drills seven on seven,
eleven on eleven we just had. There have been more
pass breakups. Moody Ward, he and Michael Pittman are going
to have some great, great battles. There have been a
couple of interceptions. Juji Brent's had one today against against Richardson.
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And Justin Walley is playing really well. He's i'll tell
you the first first day with the ones on defense
and the third round picks out there with the starters,
which is a good thing that they did. They talked
this kid up all off season, had a good spring,
and now he's out there. I like what I see,
but but we all we almost always like what we see.
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Uh maybe when you get new things. Uh So until
we see it in action in preseason games with Baltimore
and Green Bay and whatever. But but I I like
I like the additions. I guess Bradley's probably thinking, hey,
I could have used some of that.
Speaker 2 (21:43):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (21:43):
But but they've got a top level corner that they're
gonna let play the top receiver a lot of times.
They've got a safety who's who's been very productive over
four seasons. You get you get a new coordinator, and
then you draft the Jay out of Ohio State and
and Walley, and you've got four pieces you didn't have
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last year in you're expecting more out of law To
and Quitty pay has just been solid.
Speaker 2 (22:13):
You need more.
Speaker 3 (22:14):
So I really like it. I still like the linebackers.
I think they are so short at linebacker, and I'm
sure Chris Batler is getting tired of hearing all of
us talk about that, but it's a fact. And Zaiah
Franklin's is not practicing right now. I'm sure he'll practice
the next week or so. But but I like the defense.
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I like the offense, except for the quarterbacks haven't been
real consistent and that that sort of matters. But again,
I think this is a I think this is this
is a good roster. I really do. Defense will be
better the offensill they got good skill positions. Offensive line's
got a chance to be pretty good. Jonathan Taylor is
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he's top three in the league. He is, he's quality
the h but quarterbacks got to do their job. But
I like this team so far. But we're only two
days in and knock on wood, no injuries of notes,
So so far, so good.
Speaker 1 (23:13):
Mike Chapel of CBS four and Fox, with you done
on the Anymore Automotive Group pltline before I'll let you
go here? You mentioned Juju Brents a little bit earlier.
Does this new system, combined with you got to cross
your fingers his availability lead to I guess as I
would describe it a new lease on life and existence
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around here in the cult secondary to you.
Speaker 3 (23:37):
Well, I wouldn't. I wouldn't say a new defense. I
mean the old has been injuries. It hasn't matter whether
what they've played, or when they played, or have they played.
Jujuus has had injury issues. He's as I mentioned, he's
missed more games than Anthony Richardson has, and we know
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how many games. Anthony richards is a missed, so maybe
the I hope the injuries are behind him. Yeah, besides
being a really good kid and a local kid. Well,
he's what you want size wise and aggression in a corner.
And you add him to this mix with Ward and
Moore and Womack and Jones, this is a pretty good way.
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This is a this is a very very deep corner group. Again,
it hasn't been the system. It's been stayed healthy. Remember
they tried to get him out there for the last
game last year, just get some snaps and he played
like six plays before he had was it a hamstring
or growing So hopefully, hopefully he's he's running the game
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on injuries and he stays healthy because he can do
wonders in his defense.
Speaker 1 (24:51):
Mike Chapel of CBS four and Fox fifty nine, he's
every Thursday right here on the Andy Moore Automotive Automotive
Group hotline. Hey, Mike, thank you very much for the time.
I appreciate that. Stay cool up there. His mess is principle,
and I'll track it. I'll track you down when the
weather is cooler.
Speaker 3 (25:06):
Okay, thanks, Yeah, well, like when it gets to be seventy,
we'll see you.
Speaker 1 (25:10):
Like I'll be there for you, brother. Thanks Mike, be well.
Speaker 3 (25:15):
Be well, guys, So Mike
Speaker 1 (25:16):
Chappell of CBS four and Fox fifty nine.
Joining us now the Andy Moore Automotive Group hootline. He
is with the Colts, a member of that defense learning
some new things. I'm assuming the veteran Taekwon Lewis joins
us now. Taekwan, thank you for the time. How are you?
Speaker 2 (00:12):
Yes, I appreciate it. Thank you for allowing me come on.
Speaker 1 (00:14):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (00:15):
Pretty well.
Speaker 1 (00:15):
So well we're going to we're going to dive in
a little bit to Tee Town and your community celebration
in your hometown of North Carolina. And also I've been
told from a mutual acquaintance that you're a big time
car guy, so we're gonna get into that a little
bit too. Yes, I've done my damn research, Taekwon, I
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appreciate it. Man. Taekwon Lewis joins us. Let's start right here,
transition from one coordinator to the other. You go from
Gus Bradley now and what he does and what he
wants to now something completely different to lou Anarumo. How
is that transitional process going so far?
Speaker 2 (00:54):
Oh it's been great. Man. Louis very hands on, very
very very starring into the detail. He's very I guess
he has a big playbook. Let's let's say that Lou
he has a lot of things to offer to the defense,
gets a lot of guys in great positions to be successful.
Speaker 1 (01:13):
For those that are kind of curious, I'm curious, I'll
talk to Nick Cross, your teammate yesterday about this. But
your thoughts on what fans will see, maybe some of
the nuances and differences that they will see, or maybe
even better yet, what they won't see that you can
talk about right now that they can expect anything stand
out to you.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
Yes, I think you'll see a very disciplined product on
the field. I think you'll see a lot of great
plays being made by a lot of great players on
the field. Each and every one of the guys are
brought into what Lou's bringing to the table. You know,
this thing goes as the players go and coaches coach
players player. I think Lou is a great coach and
(01:55):
he's been doing a great job for us so far,
and we're thankful for what happened here in Indy.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
Yeah, he has Taekwon Lewis coach camp joining us on
Andy More Automotive Group. Hootline is this meaning? Is this
much of a change for you just individually speaking and
your responsibilities at all or does most of that still
remain the same.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
Depends. Uh, Lou has a lot of a lot of
defenses to offer. I think sometimes we uh we we
learn new stuff every day, new terminology, like I said,
a lot of different fronts. Uh. He's like a mass
scientist sometimes, so some of his new some of his
uh I'm not say recycled information, but it's it's a
(02:37):
new language sometimes.
Speaker 1 (02:39):
Does it take a minute to get or because you've
done this basically all of your life now and learn
new things, is it just like secondhand nature to you by.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
Now, well, believe it or not. I've been in the
same kind of defense all my license, like Little League,
So some of the stuff we do is totally different
than me. And uh, it's but I'm a fast run
I'm a very very smart guy. So I just I
learned multiple ways and I'm just picking it up as
(03:09):
as I go.
Speaker 1 (03:09):
I'm trying to picture Taekwon Lewis in one of his cars,
one of his rides with the playbook in hand, studying,
doing a little cramming for anything like that. That doesn't
take place. It just all kind of flows for you.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
Huh. Not much of Kramer. You know, I look at
it on the on the projective, I write it down,
I might look over it again and it's like second nature.
It just comes to me sometimes.
Speaker 1 (03:35):
That's that Taekwon lewis on they anymore out about a
group hotline? How do you feel at this point in
your career right now? There's been a lot of battles
and when I think about you, when they said that
you're going to come on, Kantu said, hey, Taekwan's going
to join you tomorrow. I think about the word perseverance.
What do you think about in thinking about your career
to this point with the Colts?
Speaker 2 (03:54):
Oh? Man, it's been great. Uh. You know, I spent
some times when you where we have setbacks and stuff
like that. But you know, what good is the story
if you don't have anything to overcome. So, like you said,
perseverance is just great to have, especially in my corner,
you know, just to get through anything and everything that
(04:14):
life has brought my way.
Speaker 1 (04:16):
Has that been basically you in a nutshell going all
the way back to Tarborough and North Carolina on other day?
Has that been you persevering?
Speaker 2 (04:24):
Oh? Yeah, any and every chance I could get, you know, well,
the good, bad, ugly and different. You know, I'm always grateful.
You know, any opportunity I get to do anything in life,
I just try to like take make the most of it.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
Tarboro, North Carolina, celebrated a community Day not too long ago,
and you are the emphasis of that. I come from
a very small town, even smaller than that in southern Indiana,
and I know what it means to go and come
from a small community and to give back and to
be a part of that because you're heart and your
soul never leaves. You may be here, but it never
(04:57):
leaves where you grow up.
Speaker 2 (04:59):
Like that.
Speaker 1 (04:59):
How special of a moment was that for you this summer?
Speaker 2 (05:05):
Oh, it was a great moment just to go back
and see everybody from my youth and like everybody from
the hometown that's played a part in helping me become
the Taekwon Lewis I am today. You know, it was
just great just to give back and give everybody opportunity
just to see like what life has to offer as
far as like outside of Tarboro, and you know, just
(05:26):
help make your community a better place as well.
Speaker 1 (05:28):
On the banks of the Tar River, I believe around
Rocky Mount, North Carolina and that metropolitan area is Tarboro,
North Carolina. I did look this up. You there are
a lot of athletic dudes, a lot of notables coming
from your area. Holy crap, Yes, sir, A.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
Lot of a lot of athletes coming out of Tarboro. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (05:50):
And you know what, what's.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
Not a lot of winning. A lot of winning football
and a lot of winning everything there, you know, so
very athletic.
Speaker 1 (05:58):
Yeah, and I'm thinking Taekwon. I'm looking this and it's
not just in football. It's it's football, It's it's baseball.
Mike Caldwell was a former Major league pitcher from there.
It's basketball. I just watched Montrez Harrold play in the
TBT over the weekend. Yeah, for his former Louisville team.
Trent Tucker, who played it at Minnesota, was a noted
three point shooter. I think for the Knicks for the
(06:19):
most part, people around here will remember him. It's like
a who's who of athletes and stars from your community.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
It is. It's a lot of gray athletes over there
in Tallboro. Man, me, myself, Todd Gurly to Kobe Coolefield,
Sean Jon, Donald, Frank, It's a lot.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
Kelvin Bryant, Yeah, Kelvin Bryant. I should mention him too, Yeah,
and I should mention Couter from Dukes of Hazzard. I
think it's also from your community.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
It's a lot of people, man, a lot of a
lot going on in small town. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
Taekwon lewis with us, and we'll transition from Cooter who
worked on cars famously on Dukes of Hazzard or the
television show Ben Jones, the actor to you. I have
been told by a mutual acquaintance that you are a
big time car dude. Is this true?
Speaker 2 (07:05):
Yes, sir, I am. I've been a car enthusiasm my
entire life. I think.
Speaker 1 (07:09):
All right, so what is what is? What would be
among your favorites? You can go with a singular favorite,
plural favorites. What do you what do you like the most?
Speaker 2 (07:20):
Right now, I'll say my favorite car to drive is
a Posture.
Speaker 1 (07:26):
Yes, this is this is exactly the car that it
was described to me right here. But my yeah, but
but Michelle, Michelle has one that is white.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
Yes, yes, I think that's a that's a that's the
best car to drive. I think it's the ultimate driving.
The scene if you like going in and out occurs
down and around. But my favorite car it's up in
the air. Man, I built the truck seventy one ten,
(07:59):
let's see. I also I also like the four Galaxy,
but I think the next project would definitely be sixty
seven Coolar the x R seven. So that's that's probably
one of my favorites. Does man, we move on to
a Mustang?
Speaker 1 (08:17):
Is your galaxy in honor of the patrol Car and
Andy Griffiths show from Maybury, North MA.
Speaker 2 (08:23):
Again not as my grandfather's.
Speaker 1 (08:28):
Now it does it got hydraulics in it? Do you do?
You go all the way with.
Speaker 2 (08:33):
No, it's just all chrome. Nice nice car, fully start.
I won't get a new carburetor for it. That's about it.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
I love this man, this is a hell of a conversation.
It's funny. I didn't I didn't know this about you,
and I think this would be there's a sweeps week
local TV wise the sweeps week, I think, uh promo
segment where it is written all over it probably giving
somebody some insight right here right.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
Never know.
Speaker 1 (09:01):
I will tell you this in closing. I know you're
learning a lot again, a new system and all that.
With lou Anarumo out at Colts Camp right now. But
I also my first car was a Porsche. True story,
Oh wow, it was. Were you nineteen seventy four, I'm
fifty five. I was a class of eighty eight. But
I had a nineteen seventy four Porsche nine fourteen. It
(09:23):
was a two seater, mid engine. So what it was, taekwon.
It was a German seventies version of the Pontiac Fierro,
is what it was. This is kind of what it was,
a German Fierro if you remember the Fierro from the
nineteen eighties Pontiac made. It was a mid engine. It
was awesome. I thought it was like magnum p I
driving around in it, right But where we're from, because
(09:46):
we grew up in really small towns, we drove around
before we got our license. And I did that too,
and I'm assuming you probably did as well. I just
I wrecked that. I ten canned the Porsche nine fourteen though, yeah, well,
don't ever be in an accident, and sure as he'll
never be in an accident in a Porsche nine fourteen,
(10:08):
nineteen seventy four mid engine German Fierro because it was
zero fun right there. But I can always say, I eight, man,
I I should have gone to the Junkyard and ripped
the logo and the emblem off the front. I will
never forgive myself, even after I record, for not doing
that because that was what was important. It was the
(10:28):
emblem on the front which was most important to me.
So yeah, true story. Uh Porsche Brothers right here, Taekwon
Lewis and JMV just having a car conversation on the
Anymore Automotive Group on line. Hey, we'll do this again soon.
Stay healthy, keep after it, continue to persevere. Always a
great conversation. Fantastic having you on the show. And we'll
(10:51):
see you when we get up there for a night
practice or two.
Speaker 2 (10:53):
Okay, yes, sir, I appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (10:56):
You got it, Taekwon, thank you very much. That is
Taekwon Lewis on the Andy Moore Automotive Group potline. We
are Porsche Bros. Not quite is stratospherically better than mine? Man,
mine was awesome, awesome. I thought I was like magnum
(11:17):
Pi without the mustache. You're rolling around. I'm fifteen before
I get my license, and I'm not saying anything out
of school. I think we all did that in the
country back in the day cruising around. You ever seen
the video to Tears for Fears and Everybody Wants to
Rule the World. I think it's rolling Oars the Ball
(11:37):
and Kurt Smith. I think Oars the Ball is like
rolling around maybe Kurt Smith rolling around in a top
with a top down in a two seat car in
that video the entirety of the time. That's kind of
what I thought. I'd play songs for the Big Chair
and kind of crank it up, Tears for Fears and
drive around because this was a target top convertible. And unfortunately,
(11:59):
much like Hammer and Fry did in Farris Beeler's Day Off,
I killed the car very unfortunate, the portion nine fourteen
mid engine and what we described as the German Fiuerrero.
And let me tell you this, the hill Billies back
at Eastern Green when they did shop class went out
to it and couldn't figure out where the hell the
(12:20):
engine was. It was classic stuff right there back in
nineteen eighty five eighty six. So Taekwon lewis always a
good conversation car guy, celebrated in his hometown, which we
absolutely love to see that and a member of the
Colts Defense again his perseverance is something that certainly should
be discussed, especially at the outset of this season. Quick break,
(12:44):
well come back, We're live at Taylor's Pub. I would
love to see you, Brent Holverson rejoins. On the other side,
it is a big day for us on this tavern
tour stop heaven Hild Distillery just a little bit, shall
I say, east of ditch on eighty sixth Street, Taylor's Pub, Greenbrier.
We would love to see you. Stuff to give away
(13:05):
and more on the inbound. This is ninety three to
five and one oh seven five the Fan from CBS
four and Fox fifty nine. It is Mike Chappell. You
probably heard the intro right there with Jake's conversation earlier
today with Bernard Ryman negotiation tactics that obviously the Colts
are going to realize what they have, what is necessary,
(13:26):
the value of a left tackle, and at some point
a deal is going to get done, right.
Speaker 3 (13:32):
Yeah, And they've got gosh six seven eight major players
whose contracts are up. Nick Cross, Alec Peers, Uh you
get from Daniel Jones, Quitty pay in there in Ryman
it to be is at the top of the list,
you know, I sort of think that that ownership has
(13:54):
taking a wait and see approach on a lot of
these guys, to see where these guys are at the
end of the season team wise, is it headed in
the right direction to do they need to make major change.
Having said that you need a left tackle, I could
argue that maybe if there's a change, the new guys
(14:16):
wouldn't value Alec Pierce that high, or or quitty pay
or whatever. And I value Alec Pierce a lot, but
I don't care who is running this team. You need
a left tackle, and Bernie's gonna get paid. It's going
to be I think I went and looked at the
top eleven left tackles average twenty million, and there's a
(14:40):
four or five right tackles making nasz He's gonna get it.
It's just coming to something, to some agreement. Maybe it's
early in the process. I don't know. Chris Ballard never
discusses contracts because that's just not part of you who
he is. And I understand that generally deadlines spur action.
(15:05):
I don't know what the deadline is a Bernie. He's
not gonna hold out, He's not gonna leave camp. As
he knows he's he's under contract this year. All I
know is that if he has another good year, it's
not going to get cheaper to sign him.
Speaker 2 (15:21):
So uh.
Speaker 3 (15:23):
But again, he there's no reason to give a hometown
discount there. Anyone who does that in any pro league
is getting bad advice. He'll get paid. I think he
gets done here. Whether it gets done before the season starts,
I don't know. The fact our talking is encouraging, it
(15:44):
really is so. And again, this is a guy that's
still growing into the position. You know he was he
was late to play left or to play tackle, and
had that really bad start in as a rookie, and
he's got and better every time he stepped in the field.
They'll get Bernie done. I just don't know when.
Speaker 1 (16:07):
All right, So, first two days of practice, what's your
understanding of what you've seen at the quarterback position, Mike.
Speaker 2 (16:15):
It's an open competition.
Speaker 3 (16:17):
They've each taken sixteen snaps each day with the ones
and the twos. The first day, Jones started the practice
with the ones and then it rotates to Richardson later,
and today it was the other way around, Richardson first.
So they're going to get the same amount of reps
for the most part, and we're out there charting them
(16:39):
and their numbers aren't great, but it's two days in
and you know, I and again I'm out there with
Joel Ericson and Steven and James Boyd and we're all
Chartingy's and looking and you know, that was a pretty
good throw and that was crappy, But that's what you do.
(17:00):
That's what we do. And maybe fans get tired of
the daily charting where they are, but that's that's all
we've got to do with these guys. So you know,
I'm curious where it goes. I think where it needs
to go is that Richardson needs to be the starter.
And unless he just has a bad training camp, which
I don't think he will uh training training camp in
(17:22):
preseason games, I think he needs to be the starter.
If you boy if you listen to Chris Ballard and
even with Carly in her interview on Colts dot Com,
they need to find out what they have with Anthony Richardson. Yes,
the short term is important because you got to win now,
(17:44):
but they've got to find at the end of the
at the end of his season, they have to know
what they've got they just have to. And if that
means starting him this year and he plays well and
doesn't get hurt, then.
Speaker 2 (17:58):
You know what you've got.
Speaker 3 (17:59):
But if it mean he goes out there and starts
a couple of games and gets hurt, then you know
what you've got. You know you've got to find something
else next year. Boy, you've got to come out of
this year just knowing what you've got. One way or
the other.
Speaker 1 (18:14):
I think I don't. Don't you You figured out either way, though,
don't you, Mike. I mean, if Danny Jones would, so
be it. I mean it's just to me. To me,
I don't give a damn who ends up stepping up
as long as somebody does. Because I can tell you this,
I feel as if I have a finger on the
pulse of the interest level of Colts fans. And I
can't remember a time when we've had a group that
(18:37):
is as less juiced about the start of a season
right now.
Speaker 2 (18:40):
And I don't disagree.
Speaker 3 (18:43):
And we were talking up at Westfield about how during
this off season, the entire offseason, there was no no
national buzz on the Colts. Uh, They're just I mean
what I mean, You're not going to draw I think
the getting Mooney Ward and in cam Bonham was huge. Huge,
(19:06):
getting Tyler Warren was huge. But you know, no one
got excited about that Daniel Jones and Richardson quarterback competition.
They just didn't. And the only way you create that
this team creates buzz now is to win. That we've
taught this schedule is it is set up. It is
(19:27):
set up for these guys to get off to a
good start and put themselves into position to have some
kind of a meaningful season. And if they if they
don't take advantage that early part of the season, I
don't know where this goes. Uh And you're right, whether
whether it's Richardson or Jones, it's got to happen. But
(19:51):
at some at some level, you've got to know what
you've got with the third bit or the fourth pick
in the twenty three draft. You've got to know what
direction this team takes. Going forward to.
Speaker 1 (20:04):
My chapel of CBS four and Fox fifty nine, he's
onthing Andy mooree out of Moutive Group pile Line. Our
Taffa tour stop is at Taylor's Pub, West eighty sixth Streets.
Our location in Greenbrier, A little East. We are of
Ditch Road. So in consecutive days I've had on Nick
Cross and Taekwon Lewis, and I've asked about the adjustments
(20:25):
that are being made from an old system to a
new system. Defensively, they've been very understated in their description.
What have you seen compared to what Gus Bradley liked
to do, to that of what lou Anarumo is installing
with his group.
Speaker 3 (20:41):
Right now, we're noticing tider coverage in drills seven on seven,
eleven on eleven we just had. There have been more
pass breakups. Moody Ward, he and Michael Pittman are going
to have some great, great battles. There have been a
couple of interceptions. Juji Brent's had one today against against Richardson.
(21:03):
And Justin Walley is playing really well. He's i'll tell
you the first first day with the ones on defense
and the third round picks out there with the starters,
which is a good thing that they did. They talked
this kid up all off season, had a good spring,
and now he's out there. I like what I see,
but but we all we almost always like what we see.
(21:27):
Uh maybe when you get new things. Uh So until
we see it in action in preseason games with Baltimore
and Green Bay and whatever. But but I I like
I like the additions. I guess Bradley's probably thinking, hey,
I could have used some of that.
Speaker 2 (21:43):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (21:43):
But but they've got a top level corner that they're
gonna let play the top receiver a lot of times.
They've got a safety who's who's been very productive over
four seasons. You get you get a new coordinator, and
then you draft the Jay out of Ohio State and
and Walley, and you've got four pieces you didn't have
(22:05):
last year in you're expecting more out of law To
and Quitty pay has just been solid.
Speaker 2 (22:13):
You need more.
Speaker 3 (22:14):
So I really like it. I still like the linebackers.
I think they are so short at linebacker, and I'm
sure Chris Batler is getting tired of hearing all of
us talk about that, but it's a fact. And Zaiah
Franklin's is not practicing right now. I'm sure he'll practice
the next week or so. But but I like the defense.
(22:36):
I like the offense, except for the quarterbacks haven't been
real consistent and that that sort of matters. But again,
I think this is a I think this is this
is a good roster. I really do. Defense will be
better the offensill they got good skill positions. Offensive line's
got a chance to be pretty good. Jonathan Taylor is
(22:57):
he's top three in the league. He is, he's quality
the h but quarterbacks got to do their job. But
I like this team so far. But we're only two
days in and knock on wood, no injuries of notes,
So so far, so good.
Speaker 1 (23:13):
Mike Chapel of CBS four and Fox, with you done
on the Anymore Automotive Group pltline before I'll let you
go here? You mentioned Juju Brents a little bit earlier.
Does this new system, combined with you got to cross
your fingers his availability lead to I guess as I
would describe it a new lease on life and existence
(23:33):
around here in the cult secondary to you.
Speaker 3 (23:37):
Well, I wouldn't. I wouldn't say a new defense. I
mean the old has been injuries. It hasn't matter whether
what they've played, or when they played, or have they played.
Jujuus has had injury issues. He's as I mentioned, he's
missed more games than Anthony Richardson has, and we know
(23:59):
how many games. Anthony richards is a missed, so maybe
the I hope the injuries are behind him. Yeah, besides
being a really good kid and a local kid. Well,
he's what you want size wise and aggression in a corner.
And you add him to this mix with Ward and
Moore and Womack and Jones, this is a pretty good way.
(24:22):
This is a this is a very very deep corner group. Again,
it hasn't been the system. It's been stayed healthy. Remember
they tried to get him out there for the last
game last year, just get some snaps and he played
like six plays before he had was it a hamstring
or growing So hopefully, hopefully he's he's running the game
(24:45):
on injuries and he stays healthy because he can do
wonders in his defense.
Speaker 1 (24:51):
Mike Chapel of CBS four and Fox fifty nine, he's
every Thursday right here on the Andy Moore Automotive Automotive
Group hotline. Hey, Mike, thank you very much for the time.
I appreciate that. Stay cool up there. His mess is principle,
and I'll track it. I'll track you down when the
weather is cooler.
Speaker 3 (25:06):
Okay, thanks, Yeah, well, like when it gets to be seventy,
we'll see you.
Speaker 1 (25:10):
Like I'll be there for you, brother. Thanks Mike, be well.
Speaker 3 (25:15):
Be well, guys, So Mike
Speaker 1 (25:16):
Chappell of CBS four and Fox fifty nine.
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