July 29, 2025 • 58 mins
00:00 - 13:23 - Greg Rakestraw from the ISC Sports Network joins the show! Greg and John reminisce about college drinking days, before talking about how Colts QB Anthony Richardson has looked so far during training camp.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
And the Andy Moore Automotive Group podline something else. You
were waiting on Greg Rekstraw, who is not so fresh
back from Iceland and had a planes and trains and
automobiles type of experience trying to get his ass home,
didn't you, buddy.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
Well, I had to settle for doing three and a
half hours of radio from the brickyard and not six.
So yeah, for stepping in.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
That's always good. That's always good. Here, Hey, shout out
to Todd Meyer, by the way. So Todd Meyer was
in Michigan when he was orchestrating this because of the
whole flight situation with you, and was kind enough to
bring me back a case of le Bat's Blue light
in bottles and a case of le Bat's Blue non
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Alcoholic in bottles.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
Well, why would you get the non alcoholic, Joe?
Speaker 1 (00:49):
No, it's for somebody else, not for me. Okay, now,
it's all I go alcoholic, go home, that's what they say.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
So you did two and a half hours of radio
and you got a case of and you got an
Iceland football start out of the Yes, I'd win for years.
Speaker 1 (01:04):
That was a big win right there. Now, where are
you with Labat's Blue.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
If somebody hands me a cold beer, I'll drink it. John,
That's kind of where I'm at.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
I loved the Bats, but I drank Le Bat's Blue
in college and Indiana State.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
I think all of us went through a Canadian beer phase.
In college.
Speaker 1 (01:21):
We did.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
Yeah, it was for me. It was Molson Canadian was
the beer of choice cirt in nineteen ninety five?
Speaker 1 (01:28):
Was it Molson Golden? Do they still make Molson Golden?
That was popular back in the nineties two.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
It was just straight Molson Canadian. There was a Triple
A baseball team in Vancouver that was the Canadians, and
basically it was the logo off of the beer bottle,
and so that was, you know, whatever, Molson Eyes because
we were, you know, we grew up in the ice
beer age.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
Yes we did.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
You'll make the beer cool. Just put Iceland a mixed
it be cool, right, right? So, so ad some Molson
Eyes because I did have a Canada trip for like
a week when I was in college in the summer
of ninety five. But of the Molson family of beers,
Molton Canadian was my favorite.
Speaker 1 (02:07):
Do you think ice Tea or ice Cube ever tried
to sue because they were the major reasons why I
always felt the ice beer craze took place in the nineties.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
Now, man, it was what made him popular? Is it
was pre advertising for him?
Speaker 1 (02:22):
Oh you think so?
Speaker 2 (02:23):
And those guys absolutely like ice cubes.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
Is always trying to make a buck out of that.
I'd think he'd be the first one to go, well,
wait a minute, all of a sudden, we got all
this ice stuff going on.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
I need still both those guys that fared pretty well
in life. I think you made it out.
Speaker 3 (02:34):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (02:35):
I will tell you this. There was a I went
through a small craze in the late nineties early two
thousands with j. W. Dundee's honey brown. Did you nevergot
about it until I found out it was like five
hundred calories of bottle.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
Well, apparently I've been drinking them for some time, and.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
Apparently, JW. Did you ever have any j W. Dundees Brown?
Speaker 2 (03:00):
It was phenomenal beer. I know what it was like
drinking a cineamonarole apparently.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
And I went through a lot of the the ice
beer phase of the Bat's blue phase, the amstell light phase.
I had some of that last weekend, and it wasn't
what I thought it was am still light, so yeah,
but also JW. Honey Brown.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
We would have to pay the rent kegger last Friday
of every month, and one day we stumbled into getting
a Killian's Irish red keg, and like this pre social media,
words spread around campus and the party got just a
little bit too big. I was getting a little bit nervous, yes,
but Rehet was well paid that month.
Speaker 1 (03:39):
Me tell you over in Tera hate at the then
and I'm obviously with somebody else now, But in ninety
three ninety two, ninety three was a party cast over
on Third Street and we would go get a keg
of bush Light Draft. That was the go too. But
I would take because they would send me back to
the cooler and I'll would like carry it out. I
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would take one of the lids the Heineken caps off
the Heineken keg and then put that with and people
would go up and like like pump the keg and
think that it was Heineken, when in fact it was
bush Light Draft. I thought that was savvy as l.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
And they frankly wouldn't know the difference. It wouldn't So
the mini bar in the room on the cruise you know,
had like two coach two died to coach, four things
and Tito's, a couple of bottles of Heavy and the
Heavy Phenomenal, and a couple of Heinekens, And basically we
had the package. Rin could drink anywhere on the boat,
you know, for free. And so it was a lot
of mccardi's and coach because they're on vacations. What you
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do even with fifty five degrees, you know, I would
have pina coladas looking at icebergs. It was a wonderful trip.
I had the one Heineken in my room and I
got about happening him like this is absolute swill. So yes,
playing that off as a bush light is perfectly bault.
Speaker 3 (04:51):
Up by you.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
Oh yeah, hey, by the way, Gritty says, Molsten Golden
was our beer of choice at the Office Lounge in
the early nineties. That's the Office lone lounge on the
East third Street in Bloomington. That's a place where we
need a tavern tour stop. The Office Lounge in Bloomington.
Speaker 2 (05:07):
For sure, as you're pipping out you had one tavern
two or up available there you go, are you going
to beat there?
Speaker 1 (05:11):
And that would be what you know, we're going to
in September. We're doing a Largecybourbon locks and the Lunazul
tequila shots from the upstairs pub.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
There you go, that's nice, well done.
Speaker 1 (05:21):
That is nice. Hey, I wanted to ask you regarding
a lot is made about the quarterback situation. Somebody had said,
all we do is see they're really good throws by Richardson,
and you know that's just angling to give him the
starting job. And while I listen, it's okay if you
described this as a competition, the worst case scenario in
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this competition is if Richardson gets beaten out in it.
Would you not agree?
Speaker 2 (05:47):
Yeah, I would agree with that. But again I legitimately
think whoever the better quarterbacks is at the end of
August will be the starter because everybody knows you've got
to win now or if not, it's reset time. Say this,
Having been there for the last three practices, I have
seen more good than bad from Anthony Richardson. You're seeing
some more touch on some throws. And it's not just
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the you know, fifty yard bomb. He's throwing the outs
a lot better. There's there's still some bad plays in there,
like literally there's this little set they run on the
goal line today. That is supposed to be kind of
a shovel pass to Tyler Warren. He threw it from
four feet away, through it a foot behind him and
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I'm like, I'm like, I could make that throw. How
are you missing that? But at the same time, I've
been watching the last couple of days, I saw more
good plays than bad, and I saw throats that have
given him fits be done better. Is it perfect dough?
But did he kind of look more like the guy
as a rookie that was a sixty percent passer, which
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is much closer to what you need to be in
the National Footballleague to be successful than say, being a
guy who was subbed fifty percent, which gets people fired.
He looked more like like like the first guy I mentioned.
So there's still there's still a lot of proof of
the putting in terms of what he looks like in
preseason games, what he looks like in regular season games.
But based on what on all we have to judge
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it on. So far through a week of training camp,
there are places where I see improvement from Anthony Richards.
Speaker 1 (07:20):
Greg Gregsraws of the Andy Morra Automotive Group padline he
was at coach practice a little bit earlier today. This
probably all comes out in the proverbial wash here on
either side. But do you think that it is more
this wide receiving corps that would have the opportunity because
I think that we downplay them a little bit, or
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they're downplayed nationally a little bit because they haven't had
an accurate quarterback throwing to them. I think if somebody
is in their general vicinity, I think they can make
that somebody look good. Do you think that is a
possibility or is it more you have to be on
target with these guys to make the quarterback whomever this
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is going to be, look good.
Speaker 2 (08:04):
I really don't have a question about the skill position
players for the Colts. I honestly don't now other than
quarterback that obviously we have questions about that. But Jonathan Taylor,
we know what he's about. Tyler Warren, we saw it
at Penn State, and I think that skill set translates
to the National Football League. There are questions about a
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d Mitchell Again, he made some nice plays today too,
but frankly, you know, he's kind of fourth a depth
chart right now, and I like the three guys that
are in front of him in terms of Pierce, in
terms of downs, in terms of Pittman. So I do
think this wide receiver group is solid and capable. I
like what in the edition of Warren is a tied end.
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We know what Jonathan Taylor is about. There's always question
marks in every team if somebody were to get hurt,
But I you know whomever the quarterback is going to be.
I think that quarterback has the skill position weapons to
be successful.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
Extras with us, we both grew up Reds fans. However,
I'm assuming if you were like me and you are,
you had a great deal of admiration because in the
cable era, even though I didn't have it, I got
to see it more often than not at different places
that you saw the afternoon Cubs games. And he was
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an incredibly special player, and yesterday we learned he passed away.
What Ryan Sandberg is a player mean to you as
a budding baseball fan of the.
Speaker 2 (09:30):
Day, Well, obviously you saw him in every All Star
Game for the other part of a decade. And yes
there was the rub that all of baseball got, but
especially the Cubs in the Atlanta Braves because you knew
they were going to be on every day, and I
think you and I lived a similar existence. My guess
is you didn't get cable until you went to college
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for the first time.
Speaker 1 (09:52):
Nineteen eighty eight, we got a satellite dish, one of
those big moonraker things that got everything. That's the first
time I had cable.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
For some reason. My mom and dad got satellite when
I moved away, too, So I literally I remember being
able to watch the US Open on you say, in
the fall of ninety four, I moved to the University
of Indianapolis, thinking cable is great. I may never leave
the room again. So did I watch Rhino play on
WGN when I was at a buddy's house or staying
with somebody. But was there more love for him nationally
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because of the timing of when he played for the Cubs. Yes,
But was he a no doubt Avalot Hall of Famer, Absolutely,
and for the most part, other than eighty four and
eighty nine, he was a great player on bad teams,
you know, for the better part of a decade. So
any one of our age knows how wonderful of a
baseball player Ryan Sandberg was, And frankly, virtually every story
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you have heard over the last twenty four hours since
his passion became public. Was that. I mean, in virtually
every meeting in a public setting, he was an absolutely
first class person too.
Speaker 1 (11:01):
Speaking of baseball, I'm trying really hard not to jinx
the Reds, but I may have done it with Lance
McAllister yesterday. Every time I get excited about this group,
they end up crapping the bed every time.
Speaker 2 (11:11):
There is something to be said about playing the Dodgers.
The Dodgers are pretty good, so maybe that was more
about what the Dodgers.
Speaker 1 (11:17):
Did, right, Yeah, but the Reds are still, organizationally speaking,
habitual bedcrappers.
Speaker 2 (11:25):
As they also have a couple of pretty good teams
in front of them too, so they're at least in
the mix, which they were at the start of the season.
Speaker 1 (11:35):
Greg Raigshaw's on the Andy Moore autom Motive Group plot line.
Hopefully I see you out there on Thursday. How about
that you will not.
Speaker 2 (11:41):
I'm booked elsewhere on Thursday. I've got the City League
Finals on Thursday, so my next appearance at Colts Camp
will be on Sunday. But I'm sure our past will.
Speaker 1 (11:50):
Cross the City League Finals.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
That basketball, that is that old man basketball that it's
twenty to thirty year.
Speaker 1 (11:57):
Old basketball playing this league.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
A lot of the guys that have played in that
final over the years were actually playing in the TBT
event in Wichita this weekend, the Failed Harder team, so
it has kind of some different teams. So Aaron Henry,
Robert Glenn, Tayshawn Johnson, Trevion Blewett, We're all playing in
the men's championship game, which is at a twenty. The
womens championship game has three of the Goss sisters on
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one team. The other team is led by Ali Becky,
who just graduated at Ball State from Brownsburg as part
of their state runner up team four years ago, and
they are playing for a cash prize Honnord Fitness Center
at Tech and we'll have that for a six consecutive
year on ISC women's game at seven o'clock, Men's game
at eight twenty.
Speaker 1 (12:41):
Well done, right there. Jesse Benga was playing on that
tv T right on Fail Harder trec.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
Yeah, he was on the Fail Heart So Darius Adams,
obviously you ind legend has been over in.
Speaker 1 (12:51):
China forty two in that game the other night.
Speaker 2 (12:56):
Which is kind of what Darius has done as a
pro for the better part of the last ten fifteen years.
But Kobe Webster from Park Tudor was a big part
of that, and those guys made it as difficult as
possible and came damn close to making in the semi finals.
Speaker 1 (13:11):
Greg Greg straws are the Andy Moore Automotive Group pile Line.
My brother will see you very soon. Thanks for the shirt.
Speaker 2 (13:17):
And thanks for the filling on Saturday. Greatly appreciated.
Speaker 1 (13:20):
Got it, Greg, Greg Straw who's been fighting through the
heats well. Our next guest on the Andy Moore Automotive
Group pie Line from the Indianapolis Star. He covers the colts.
Joe A. Erickson was us and you know I've mentioned
this before. Unfortunately, at the age of fifty five, I'm
kind of this perfect mixture between hillbilly and douchey. So
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the douchey and me wanted to know, do you strategically
during these hot and humid days like today, for example,
select a shirt so you don't get sweat and pittstains
going when you're covering the colts up there.
Speaker 4 (13:57):
You know what, that's a good question. We what a
time I always have, So I'm kind of out of
luck on that, but I do pretty much the dry fits.
Speaker 3 (14:12):
Now.
Speaker 4 (14:12):
If I have to do spot for my.
Speaker 5 (14:14):
Friends at Fox fifty nine and TVs four, yes, often
breathe a second T shirt, a second polo shirt in
order to avoid some of those those issues.
Speaker 1 (14:25):
So unlike you, when I'm on with our friends, you
do first in Joel, I do when they call me,
and most of the time i'm you know, hopefully I'm
not drunk on a Sunday to come on their Sunday show.
Normally I do it shirtless. So yeah, there's a huge
gap between our professionalism right there on Fox fifty nine,
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and I can only imagine whom they like better Joel
at this point in time, haven't you or me on?
Speaker 4 (14:54):
Well? Well, I think sometimes we share the same show
because you're on Blue Zone as well.
Speaker 1 (14:59):
Yeah, yeah, and.
Speaker 4 (15:01):
Usually usually that's my recap part once we get to
the season, so we we shared the same show. Now, obviously,
as you're doing oh I'm doing it from the stadium,
we're gonna have a little bit different mode address.
Speaker 1 (15:13):
I thought that I was as responsible as two weeks ago.
Phil called me and he goes, hey, you want to
come on and do a tape segment. I think Hagen
was out, he was someplace else, and I said, yeah, Phil,
but man, it is entirely possible that I am going
to be way, way too much in the bag by
the time taping rolls around here. So he goes, hey,
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you know what, just go ahead and stay ahead, stay
with what you're doing right there, because there has been
a time before, they go would you mind taping this over?
Speaker 3 (15:46):
Go?
Speaker 1 (15:46):
Yeah, David, over yet if you guys will. But now,
it's a fun group and that's part of it too.
I mean, you're more the serious newsworthy and I'm you know,
more of the douchey, jack assery kind of thing. So
it's kind of, uh, you know, you get you get
service from both angles, which I think is good and
and you know this to be true. It is a
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very good group to be a part of and to
work with, even though I do it for free. How
about that? So I do it for free. I do
it for free because Hagen does it for free from me,
just like you do. So but hey, I was thinking
about you. We just popped open a little field of
dreams with Drew Storn his product. Oh yeah, we just
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popped open a little field of dreams and they have
baseball players on on the cork, on the lid the cork,
if you will. And we just popped open and Field
of Dreams about an hour ago, and Robin you Out
was the player on the cork. But that is that
your favorite brewer of all time?
Speaker 4 (16:46):
Robin Youut, I'm a little bit young. He's my favorite,
but he's by far and away the greatest brew of
all times. There's really no.
Speaker 1 (16:57):
Comparison, agreed, And he he is. He he stayed there,
he never left, whereas Molitor left and you know, delivered
in Toronto as well. I am a big fan of
Harvey's Wallbangers in eighty two and one because I hate
the Cardinals, but I wanted to see Milwaukee, you know,
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when they were a part of the American League, then
they were in the eighty two World Series, and wanted
to see them win. But from youw to Malitor, to Gantner,
uh to Ogil v Cecil, Cooper Gorman, Thomas, Ted Simmons,
you know Vukevich. And I don't know if you knew
this or not, but I was talking to Taekwan Lewis
last week. Taekwan Lewis's hometown is Tarboro, North Carolina. Is
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also the hometown of former right hander Mike Caldwell of
the Milwaukee Cos. Yes, I did not.
Speaker 4 (17:49):
I did not know that h Annymore is now d
L Hall, who's on the current Brewers.
Speaker 1 (17:55):
Okay, that's awesome.
Speaker 4 (17:56):
Yeah the other that's the other Colts player connection there
anyone out and visited their training camp this year and
didn't didn't know I was a Bruise fan, so I
commented on it. I think I got myself in trouble
a little bit, but it works out. He knows I'm
a Bruise fan. Now we got it figured out.
Speaker 1 (18:14):
Did you see our guy Yoho go out there and
Pitts last night?
Speaker 4 (18:18):
I did? I did. I keep waiting. They need to
give him a little bit more of a chance, but
I get it. Yeah, you get two guys on and
in that series, you're gonna have to go to the closer. Yeah.
I've been pulling for Yoho for a while now. I
keep waiting for a chance for him to be on
the roster so my kids can go to a game
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and hold up a word from Fisher's two side.
Speaker 1 (18:41):
Yeah. Well see, it's awesome. Yoho by the way, is
a name synonymous where I'm from in Green County, Green
it is, so it is Yoho is. And I didn't
even know there's a Yoho that I work with from
Zinc that I think lives in Plainfield, but I didn't
know the Yoho's got all the way up in Hamilton
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County like that. And and Craig Yoho is won. I
felt bad for him last night because when he faced
that last hitter and and walked him the uh, the
walk to the mound was not There was a lot
of mumbling going on when he was taken out. If
you could tell last night, little red face mumbling going on.
Speaker 4 (19:22):
Yeah, Pat Pat doesn't, that's not really you know, the
new school manager is uh, you know, very calm and
collected and you know, never let his emotions show. But
Pat Pat Murphy is not in new school. He's the
old school.
Speaker 1 (19:36):
He was not happy at all. And I got to
get Craig Yoho on this show at some point. I
don't think he's ever been on. But it is a
cool as hell story. And obviously, the Brewers beat the
Cubs last night, Dodgers beat the Reds last night. That's
what's going on. In the NL Central. I didn't want
to ask you this regarding the Colts to start so much, Joel,
the focus has been on the quarterback situation. Uh, there's
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no no matter if it's Richardson, if it's you know,
Daniel Jones. Is there anything significant, either good or bad
that a lot of people are missing out on because
there is so much of a laser focus on the
quarterback situation and position right now.
Speaker 4 (20:17):
I I kind of would say, I don't. I don't
think so, because I think the one development that it's early.
You don't know if this is a thing or not,
but it's just really the receiver who's been the most
consistent has been really good so far, as with Alex Pearson.
There's been some inconsistency elsewhere. But I think if you're
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I think if you're paying attention to the quarterback battle
and really living and dying on it, you probably know
that from reading the stuff we've written from out there.
I think that's the only thing. I think everything else
has kind of looked a little bit the way we
expected it to. I think that I think that what
we've learned is, you know, over the years here is
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that as much as you want the quarterback to not
matter as to have an outside impact on this football team.
I think Colts fans bight now know that's that's just
what's gonna happen. So yeah, I kind of think that
I kind of get it when it comes to focusing
hard on the quarterback position. Although I did tell myself
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after I've typed up my observations today, I made a
note I got to have a little bit more on
the other parts of the roster and not just on
the quarterback position.
Speaker 1 (21:30):
Yeah. See, And it's funny here where we kind of
play the hits, and certainly that is the bit that's
like the Rick Astley and never going to give you
up in nineteen eighty seven eighty eight. Right here, you
just see you play it absolutely, you know, non stop
or the chumbul one, but tub thumping of the nineties,
you play it non stop. It's certainly worthy of it.
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But it's funny. I have a lot of confidence Joel
in the pass catchers because I believe there'll be a
lot of talent there. But if there has been, you know,
a major negative so far, and not just in terms
of a d Mitchell. It seems like that from what
you guys are talking about there have been a number
and really any numbers too many, A number of drops
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in the first week of Campauer.
Speaker 4 (22:16):
Yeah, it remains me seen if that's just sort of
a rough thing and we won't see it after the
first week. You know, it's small sample size, it's practiced.
You've got to try to you always put that in there.
But there have been drops, you know, Michael Pittman's had
some drops, Josh Allinsons had some drops. Tyler Warren has
had fewer I think outright drops. I think there have
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been some contested catch opportunities. But you probably want your
tight end to come away with that. He hasn't necessarily
come away with I do think the completion percentages of
both Richardson and Jones would be higher if they'd been
a little more sure handed. We'll we'll find out as
it goes along and as we get into the real
stuff in the games if if this is you know,
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something to worry about or something not to worry. But
you know, I think most fans know there was the
Jamar Chase's rookie year in Cincinnati. There was the Jamar
Chase is dropping everything in camp and then he went
out and had incredible season anyway, So you tend to
write some of that stuff off, but then there's other
training camp stuff that ends up becoming a thing. So
it's just hard to know. All you can do is
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kind of want it and write down what you see
and then make note of.
Speaker 3 (23:24):
It for later.
Speaker 1 (23:26):
If you were going to think during the season, is
this wide receiving group, And let's go ahead, and I'll
a factor in Warren as well, because it is something
we'll get into that in just a second what he
is doing so far and hopefully that is a translation
as a rookie to the regular season as well. But
is this pass catching group good enough to raise the
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game of either one of these quarterbacks significantly?
Speaker 4 (23:50):
To you, that's a great question. I think they've got
enough to help a quarterback in terms of in terms
of raising their game. I think that it's it's probably
hard for a receiving corps to do that. I think
what we've seen here is that the quarterback ends up
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affecting the pass catcher more than than the other way around,
you know. I think Alex Pierce is maybe the best example.
He definitely made strides over the last year, but a
big difference for for him, you know, from his first
two years to last year was last year he had
quarterbacks who were willing to throw it to him down
the field, you know, and and some of that stuff
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is kind of out of his control. I do think though,
that they have you know, they've kind of got every
type of target for him. They've got guys who can
do a little bit of everything. I think Shane Stiken
does a pretty good job of getting those guys open.
Based on what we've seen in the first two years,
I think that's all there. I think I think the
question I have is do they have the quarterbacks that
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take advantage of, you know, kind of the skill set.
They don't have the they don't have the Chase, they
don't have a guy who can do everything. But they've
got a lot of guys who can do a lot
of different things. That usually is enough if the quarterback
can take advantage of it.
Speaker 1 (25:09):
Right side interior offensive line, which obviously would hard target
center and right guard. Any concerns there at all, because
I think everybody feels good about Ryman and Nelson and
it looks like that you have a rejuvenated and in
a great place Braden Smith. From what we understood yesterday
when he was talking to you guys today or yes,
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I think it was yesterday in fact he was talking
to you guys. But whatever the case, are there any
concerns on the interior that offensive line there on the
right side.
Speaker 4 (25:38):
I think the position I'm focused on right now is center.
They're not really rotating macenzalve that right guard bunch, which
tells me that they're pretty competent in and we'll we'll
find out in the regular season. That's not really his
natural position, but we'll we'll find out in the regular
season if they confidence is warranted center. Right now, it
has been a very even competition between Tanner border and
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Danny Pinter in terms of stats. So one guy is
getting one day, the other guy is getting the next day.
They're not really deviating from that. I think that's the
position I'm kind of paying the closest attention to right
now and wondering, you know, he's borderlining, maybe not taking
the step that they want that kind of thing in
terms of you want that pick to develop into the starter.
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But through the first six days, it's been very even
between those two.
Speaker 1 (26:27):
What if your eyeballs told you if anything whatsoever, I
don't know if it'd be definitive, but at least descriptively.
What if your eyeballs told you about Spencer straighter? Because
I kind of want to know what is going to
work for them? What are they going to trust with him?
How trust were they might they be with him in
this training camp in the preseason, what do you think?
Speaker 4 (26:49):
I think that the biggest kicks are coming starting with
Thursday night, starting with that big practice Thursday night. The
special teams coordinator there, Brian Mason, is really really good
about this Cat's laying it all out there for us,
and he told us today he gave us all the numbers.
He's thirty nine of forty three in the kicks they've
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graded through the first seven days or whatever. Trader's been good.
Trigo kind of had a rough week last week, and
then he bounced back this week and made all his kicks.
I think the biggest kicks though, are the ones they're
looking at that night practice as a pressure practice. The
joint practice is coming up, and then obviously the big
kicks in the preseason games is when I think that
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that we're going to really find out how they feel
about Spener, Trader or Mattix, Strigio, If Trader.
Speaker 1 (27:37):
Falters, Joey eericson of the stars, on the Andy Moore
Out of Money, if group Potline. The show is going
to be up there, coming up on Thursday, getting you
set for the night gathering at Grant Park and Westfield
with the Colts. I brought up Tyler Warren the rookie
a little bit earlier, and yeah, I think with good reason.
He's been conversationally at a very high level so far
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and less than a week of camp under in Westfield.
Do you think that they're going to utilize him as
much as some would suggest or believe they might, or
is this one of these camp stories that once you
get into the regular season that kind of phase a
little bit. What do you think?
Speaker 4 (28:16):
No, I I think they're gonna use I think going
back to the uh the offseason, you know, in the spring,
back in May and June. I think it feels like
they want him to be a big piece of this
and and the the interesting thing to me is going
to be what what do we see them do with
all of those other skills that he has with other
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tight ends. Don't you know the short yardage ability as
a quarterback? You know, can you use can you use
that as a as a wildcat but not just as
a wildcat? Like, does that make him a better screen
player than we've seen from the tight ends? You know,
can you throw in the shovel? That kind of stuff?
Uh is interesting to me. They need those run after
the catch type of players in the offense, and I'll
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be see he's that kind of guy.
Speaker 1 (29:02):
Yeah, it sounds I mean, let's simply put, I don't
know when's the last time, other than Dallas Clark, when
there was something and he maybe even goes a couple
of more dimensions than Dallas because it really wasn't necessary
to get that stinking tricky back in the day with
Dallas Clark. But seems like he is a Swiss army
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knife type that we have not seen certainly at that
position here before.
Speaker 4 (29:30):
Yeah, And I think that the running ability kind of
makes him I'm trying to think of another tight end
who kind of has that where you can I mean,
there's some guys who are good after the catch, but
they're more you know, down the field, open field. He's
a guy who's comfortable around the line of scrimmage, and
I think that that kind of makes him a different
There was a play in practice.
Speaker 6 (29:52):
The other day where Richardson threw it behind him on
a screen and just stuck his left hand back and
just caught it with one hand and kept going in
traffic at the line of scrimmage like a running back.
Speaker 4 (30:04):
That's that's just kind of a different skill set that
you see from most tight ends, and it's really interesting
to see how they use him. And also, just like
with everybody else, how do the quarterback play affect you?
Speaker 1 (30:15):
Yeah, no doubt, well, I think at this point until
further notice, I'd like to see this group have the
opportunity to raise the game. As I mentioned a little
bit earlier of the quarterback position. But you know, in
the past we've seen with Richardson it's been so far
inaccurate where most of the time it hasn't been possible.
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But then Joel I bring that up, and then it's
been very descriptive about how many drops we have seen
in almost the first week of camp. So you know,
one of these days, maybe the planets will align and
we'll get the opportunity to see something more legitimate. In
this case, hopefully it isn't as bad as it sounded.
Non contact caught it off. Doesn't sound good whatsoever. Anything
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regarding Jalen you can make us aware of.
Speaker 4 (31:02):
I I would just say that as hamstrings go, it
it didn't look great. Uh you know live he he
really pulled up hard and went to the ground and
didn't really didn't really move the carting off. They they
kind of do that with everybody because their medical facility
part is so far away from the practice field here.
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But I did think that that it looked like it
was you know, he felt that grab pretty tightly in
his leg. And you know, hamstring injuries can can be nagging.
I think everybody knows that it's and if they're serious,
they can they can last a little bit longer. So
I I have some some concern on that, just based
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on what we saw a lot of times when the
guy pulled a hamstring, you know, they kind of run
through it a little bit. He couldn't do that at all.
He he really pulled up hard on that injury, and
that's that's that's that's tough to see for a guy
who's you know, really locked into kind of a competition
for his spot.
Speaker 1 (32:02):
Yeah, yeah, Juju Brent's hamstring Obviously, injuries with juju is
something that seems somewhat, if not certainly customary with his
time with the Colds. What's the word there?
Speaker 4 (32:17):
Uh, that one's interesting. We didn't see he wasn't out
there today. We talked to him yesterday, so you don't
know when it happened. We didn't get to see that one.
I think anytime there's a hamstring, though, you gotta think,
like even even the most minor hamstring, you gotta immediately
kind of think a week. Uh, maybe a little bit
longer than that.
Speaker 2 (32:37):
You know.
Speaker 4 (32:38):
I know in the NFL sometimes guys play through hamstrings,
which I give it up to them, because, yeah, you know,
usually when you have a hamstring, you never know when
it's gonna grab on you and you can't run. But yeah,
this time of year, you figure that's at least a week.
And that's he's right in there with Justin Waly too,
and Wally right now is the only one healthy in
that competition.
Speaker 1 (32:58):
It's funny. I don't know. Maybe it's because he's got
a little bit of that local lean For me, I
just think that if he could piece together some quality availability,
he's going to be a guy in a season with
Lou Anroumo in this defense where everybody's gonna be glad
and he's going to go. People are gonna go, oh wow,
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this is what you've been waiting on. But it all
hinges on any sort of consistent availability.
Speaker 7 (33:28):
Yeah, he's looked good when he's been out there for
practice so far. He had an interception in one practice.
He's made some plays on the ball. I think that's
kind of how his career's gone too. I think when
he's been on the field, we've seen good stuff from him.
He just hasn't been able to stay on the field,
like you said, And I think if you can get
him a run of healthy play, I still think there's
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something in there. It's just man, it's gotta be tough
every time you feel like you're getting going again to
have your body kind of let you down a little bit.
Speaker 1 (34:01):
Are you a Bucks guy, Joel Milwaukee, I'm not. I'm not.
Speaker 7 (34:05):
That's the one team growing up in Wisconsin that I
never really got into. I I decided David Robinson was
my favorite player when I was like five.
Speaker 3 (34:15):
I'm a Spurs guy.
Speaker 1 (34:17):
Okay, that makes that makes sense. I was gonna I
was going to ask you the old Miles question. But
since you're not a Bucks guy, you probably don't give
a damn. That's all good, man, all good. But I
can go I can go deep on the Brewers. I
can go back before you were born. On the Brewers.
There were some great heiress. I was always a big
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rob deer guy.
Speaker 2 (34:39):
There was.
Speaker 1 (34:40):
I love the all or nothing dudes of Major League
Baseball back in the day. Loved it.
Speaker 2 (34:44):
Did you did you see what they did last.
Speaker 7 (34:47):
Week with their alumni event?
Speaker 1 (34:50):
I didn't so uh.
Speaker 7 (34:52):
They had They had the twenty five years of I
think of his Miller Park, but they call it American
Family Field now, and they brought back a player from
every year ostensibly or whatever. But then they took ten
guys recently retired guys and had a home run derby.
So Princefielder, Ryan Braun, Corey Hart, all these guys from
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the recent teams came back and did like an impromptu
home run derby.
Speaker 2 (35:19):
It was awesome.
Speaker 7 (35:20):
It was like it looked like the coolest thing, Like
what a great I like every franch I should copy that.
If they have their guys within the right age range,
you know, get a chance to see these guys that like,
you know, the Fielder and Brawn. Those guys are the
ones that ended the playoffs drout in two thousand and eight.
They brought them all back packed house on a Friday
against the Marlins and watched those guys hit and the
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other thing that I didn't know what they were going
to be able to hit, you know, not playing baseball
for a while. Just about every one of them hit
them like actual legitimate homers. Really cool event, like the
kind of thing that more Major League teams should do.
Speaker 1 (35:54):
Man, I love that stuff too. I agree. I absolutely
there was nothing even going way back to what I would.
You know, growing up, you had the old timers play,
and you know, some of those guys out there could
still swing it. It was pretty fun to watch. Some couldn't,
but some could.
Speaker 7 (36:09):
I mean, if the if the red said Joey Varo
is gonna get batting practice after.
Speaker 1 (36:13):
A game, yes, every Reds fan would go bet everybody
well and oftentimes it would be more interesting than what
the product would be on the field. So yes, like
like last night, I could see that, I could see
that come. I was telling Greg Greigshaw all this. I said,
you know, last night I kind of junked the Reds
because I had Lance McCallister on and talked up that
serious starter with the Dodgers, and he said, well, the
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Dodgers are pretty good, but the Reds are very well
known as being habitual bedcrappers. That's exactly what they are.
So when there's an opportunity to craft the bed, they're
probably gonna take advantage of it. That's kind of what
it looked like at times. Dodgers are good, but that's
what it at times looked like. Last night, First and
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Joel on Fox fifty nine, what are we going to
see you again?
Speaker 2 (36:59):
It will be I have.
Speaker 7 (37:01):
I believe I have segments taping on Thursday, or or
maybe not, maybe not taping. I might be live on
Thursday from from out there, right around the time you'll
be getting done with your show, I believe.
Speaker 1 (37:10):
Awesome. And then on Sunday, First and Joel and then
me shirtless with John so I'd be good. Great, Joe,
I appreciate it. We'll see it Thursday. Kyle Netting, Rip
of the Star who joins us now and Andy Moore
Auto Motive Group Hotline. So are you ready? Are you
in uh football operational mode right now? Or are you
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still taking that time off to get going.
Speaker 3 (37:37):
Well, I was hoping to hear some smoke on the
water from Deep Purple. Now that you know you brought
that to the Eastern greenplay.
Speaker 1 (37:43):
That still you know what we ran out to? Seriously,
the band played Peter Gunn when we ran out. We
ran out of the locker room and we ran through
one of those uh those paper hoops that had like
stuff hutting on it, like you know, beat the hell
out of the Cardinals, Bloomfield or whatever. We ran through
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one of those paper hoops to Peter Gunn. Hey, play
Peter Gunn really quick? What did you run out to?
Speaker 3 (38:11):
Kyle?
Speaker 2 (38:12):
You know.
Speaker 3 (38:15):
They played I remember them playing the Jay Giles band
centerfold that the band would play that.
Speaker 1 (38:22):
We should have played that.
Speaker 3 (38:24):
Yeah, they we actually ran out thunderstruck.
Speaker 1 (38:28):
Oh see, there you go. Here's what we ran out to.
Right here. Who is Peter Gunn by? But because of
multiple options play I've got blues brothers play play the
Art of Noise. Yeah, I think that's what we ran
out to. From nineteen eighty seven, this is what we
ran out to. I have no idea why to this day.
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I better stroke to three went around to this because
there's no excitement being built with this is their Kyle No.
Speaker 3 (39:05):
I mean, I guess it gets you in sort of
a melodic states or something. I don't know.
Speaker 1 (39:11):
Yeah, well, art of noise, I think. I think what
happened is I think our band learned one song that
year and that was it.
Speaker 3 (39:20):
Hey, I'm always any band who does it in person, now,
I'm all for it. I mean, I love it. When
the high school basketball starts and the band is there,
I'll give them credit for just doing it.
Speaker 1 (39:31):
Yes, here's what I bring this up all the time.
Like we talked about how high school athletics have changed,
but when you look at at bands and choirs, the level,
Like I went to a choir concert that my daughter
was a part of at the end of this last
year at Center Grove. I'm absolutely floored. It looked to
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me like it was better than a Vegas show or
a Broadway show. I was absolutely floored. And you know,
when I was in high school or in junior high
when you go to a choir Christmas concert, it'd be
a bunch of rooms standing up on stage singing let
it snow or something. But this was incredible and nobody
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makes a mistake and you've got all these moving parts.
So we talk all the time and rightly so it's
the sports show about how you know, things are you know,
more athletic and you know, more high level now in
athletics than they were back then. But man, this other stuff,
the band and the choir stuff is incredible to me.
Speaker 3 (40:37):
You're absolutely right, and I you know, and the kids
who are in those you acchoir band, you know, the arts,
you know, they're they're doing it for you know, they
don't they don't get the support necessarily like the athletes do.
But man, I've been around some really awesome experiences, you know,
just covering high school sports and getting to see the
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singers and the you know, the the bands and stuff
like that, and it really it adds so much to
the experience. It's hard to put into words how different
the experiences when the band is there and they're they're
doing stuff like that to spice everything. But it's it's
you know, I love that part of it. And high
school football starts here in a month or so. That's
to me, that's part of the fun of it. Is
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Like man, you know, every it's it's football, especially at
the start of school. Everybody's excited and it's almost like
a whole community experience, and that that is a part
of it too that sometimes we overlook, but you're absolutely right.
It's it's getting a lot, you know. It's it's it's
crazy how much time those kids put into it, and
it's awesome to see when they do get recognized.
Speaker 1 (41:39):
I saw it first time within and these these choir
folks work every bit as hard as these athletes do.
Serious absolutely, I mean they put in just as much time,
if not more than the the athletes. And it's crazy.
This is Colin Netwrip of the Stars on and Andy
Morro Automotive Group Hotline. I know you and others at
the start have been a part of, you know, going
to these these older gyms and and celebrating that and
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these are all they've all been great pieces. What I
was thinking about today because I saw a story online
a little bit earlier, there's a high school in Georgia,
Kyle that just built, just opened, in fact, a football
stadium that cost sixty two million dollars with ten thousand seats,
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fifteen luxury suites, thirty five hundred square foot video scoreboard,
two story field house of locker rooms. Buford High School
in Georgia is the location again sixty two million dollars.
So it got me thinking, what's the nicest, most expensive
I guess you would say high school football stadium in Indiana.
Speaker 3 (42:43):
Well, the way it seems like, the way that they've
been built, it's been more of like editions. You know,
we've seen, you know, stadiums that are already in place and.
Speaker 1 (42:53):
Said, I rely think Race Skillman's putting sixty two million
into one of these stadiums here is he?
Speaker 3 (42:57):
No, No, I don't think. And it's been kind of
a piece meal type, you know, the improvements that have
been done to places like Center Grove and you know
all of really if you drive around the four sixty
five and look, you know an outside for sixty five
all of the six A football facilities, Carmel's got one
going now Brownsburg has redone theirs completely. It's it's really
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really nice. You know, Avon's doing a lot of stuff.
You know, so all those suburban schools in the township
schools have put a lot of money into not only football,
but you know, facilities in general. Here in the last
you know, five years or so, so you're seeing a
lot of upgrades happening, and you know, it's it's kind
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of the keeping up with the Joneses thing anymore, you know,
to you know, it's sort of the you know, the
view of your school sometimes is based on right or wrong.
It's it's what you're doing with your athletic programs, and
the part of that is facilities and namely a lot
of times the football stadium. So you're seeing a lot
of upgrades here in the last few years, for sure.
Speaker 1 (43:57):
Yeah, no doubt about that. But sixty two million dollars
is rather incredible. You mentioned the start of the high
school football season about a month away, as many schools
in bark later on this week to back to school.
Is it same old situation in each class right now
or do we have some newcomers to the high level
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game going into twenty twenty five here?
Speaker 3 (44:21):
Well, you have there are some changes this year with
you know this, you know, Decatur Central actually is moving.
They won't five A last year and they're bumping up
to six A with the success factor that Ice Stay
has in place, So that'll be that'll be a little
bit different than than what we've seen the pass This
is their first time playing six A football, So you know,
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I think they definitely have the talent to compete at
that level. You know, a lot of a lot of
their skill position talent is back, including Kashmir Hicks, who's
who's going to IU to play receiver, you know, and
they're replacing Cathedral basically in that sectional Cathedral is bumping
back down to So you know that's a little bit
of a change that we'll see. And you know Decatur
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will get a chance early in the season. You know,
they play Avon and Newpal. I can't remember the order
of that game those games, but they'll play those two
teams early. That will give them a good, you know
sense of of maybe how good they are. But also
Newpal is bumping up from four A to five A
and UH Heritage Hills to which one three A last
year is going to four A. So there are some
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significant changes from the defending champions of last year. So
you know that'll add a little bit of a difference.
And it's not a it's not a reclass year either.
But you know, now that they're doing these UH success
factors annually, you'll see some changes every year by the
success factors, So you know that has changed some some
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you know, some of the landscape of it a bit,
but I think six A is going to be great.
It always is. You know, Brownsburg won it last year.
But you know there's several teams you know that that
will have a good chance kind of like every year
in six A. And you know, as we know, it's
so hard to repeat in that class. So you know,
I expect that will be a really competitive, you know,
class like it is every year, especially around the Indianapolis area.
Speaker 1 (46:09):
Individual talent. Yeah, I know we're not into it just yet,
but expectations compared to for example, what we saw a
year ago, who may stand out? Who are we watching
for here in a month or so from now to start?
Speaker 3 (46:26):
I would see I wrote a little bit about the
kind of the mister Football favorites going into the season,
and you know, from a you know, from a standpoint
of you know, the people who can win it, it's
normally a skill position player, obviously, the the quarterbacks, receivers,
running backs. Who are you know, kind of the top
of that list. And I would say, you know, early on,
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Jet Goldsberry comes to mind from Heritage Hills. He's a quarterback.
But we'll we'll be more of an athlete at Ole
Miss where he's headed, probably a secondary player for them,
but he's going to put up good numbers. He's already
got a state title under his belt. Casmir Hicks so
I mentioned from Decatur, also in that boat of he's
already won a state title going to IU, which I
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think will help his case. And he's a receiver. He's
going to put up numbers at that spot. And then
another guy I'll give you a third name, or maybe four,
but I would say Deacon King from from Westfield, a
two way player. He's going Northern Illinois, but he plays
running back and safety, so I think he's a name
to watch potentially. And then JJ Finch also from more
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in Central. He's a defensive player, which that's pretty rare
that a defensive player would be in the mix for
mister Football. But you know, he's his numbers are incredible
and he's going to Alabama, so he's obviously very talented.
So but yeah, he's going to put up big numbers
on defense. Probably you know, might not be enough to
get him over the hunt for the big award, but
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you know, definitely a guy who should be named in
that mix for sure.
Speaker 1 (47:55):
It is amazing to see him. I mentioned this years ago,
and it's it's only and better just you know what
you see with the the high level team wise, it's
one thing and you brought up all these teams and
with the success factor, some moving up, maybe one like
Cathedral moving down. But individually speaking, the talent's never been
better around here in football, there's no doubt about that.
Speaker 3 (48:18):
No, the depth, the depth is just really good. I
mentioned six A, you know, but it's every class. You know,
there's there's just a lot of talent in every class,
and it's it's competitive, it's you know, there's there's people
who definitely, you know, would like to see the tournament
seeded maybe to get that, you know, to make that
a little bit more interesting maybe, but from at any rate,
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it's it's always competitive in the tournament.
Speaker 7 (48:41):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (48:41):
Six A around here, especially the big schools are you know,
kind of knocking heads every year and you do end
up seeing a lot of some of the same names
at the end of the year. But you've seen also
schools like you know, Westfield breakthrough in these last few
years and become one of those major players in six
A and you know they've they've gone head to head
with with some really good teams. You know, we saw
Brownsburg for the first time in six they win it
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last year. You know, they finally get over the hump
and made a tournament run. You know. So, see, you
have some other teams competing with the Center Grows, the Warrens,
the Ben Davises of the world, who were also very
good every year. But I think that adds a little
bit to it too, when you get some new blood
in there and see some different teams get to the
finals and eventually win it.
Speaker 1 (49:23):
All Right, so last year, Mark Zachary I won Mister
Football last year, right, and he played dual role both
offensive defense. Has there ever been just a singular defensive
player to win that award?
Speaker 3 (49:36):
No, you know, not really, I mean Zachary, you're right,
I mean he was a defensive player.
Speaker 1 (49:42):
I think Drake Bowen did the same thing, right. There
have been a number of guys, because you have that
level of talent, that have played both sides. Jason Warner
comes to mind. I think Jason wanted a wide receiver
and safety at Ron Colly two years ago. So some
guys come to Yeah.
Speaker 3 (49:56):
Yeah, those are good names to mention because all those
guys were defensive guys, but also, you know, you'd be
stupid not to play Mark Zachary on offense or Jason
Warner on offense, so that you know, those guys played offense.
They put up numbers, big numbers on offense. Drake Bowen
was a running back as well as linebacker who was exceptional.
That was fun to watch him play high school football.
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But yeah, most of those guys, you know, if you're
gonna if you're a mister football type athlete, you're probably
going to play some offense too. So it hasn't really
been a case where, you know, and JJ Finch would
be you know, he's one who you know, he basically
all he's a defensive end, so he's not playing much
offense or any offense. But so he would be in
that boat of a defense only guy. But yeah, most
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of the time, the guys who play, you know, defense
who want it, are also playing offense for their high
school teams.
Speaker 1 (50:46):
At least he is Colein Nett and Rip of the Star.
He's on the Anymore Automotive Group hotline. Curious as far
as the end of the high school schedule was basically
back in June with baseball and that conclusion. So what
have been what's been the major story? Maybe the major
storyline is we have entered no high school athletics and
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then restart this thing coming up in a month or so,
actually earlier than that, considering I'm sure volleyball and other
sports are going to start prior to right.
Speaker 3 (51:16):
Yeah, you'll have some other golf and whatnot getting going here.
But but yeah, I mean kind of the the big
things has been the transfer rule. I would say. You know,
that went into effect on June first, you know, so
a lot of questions about that, a lot of you know,
kids who have moved. You know kids who have moved,
and it's normal, you know, I tell people too, it's
it's that's not that unusual. We always have transfers. But
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now it's just going to be you know, it's going
to be a little different, I would say, And you
get mixed opinions on whether it's good or bad, like
a lot of things in this world. But that's probably
been the biggest thing as far as like just changes
in high school athletics from a standpoint of just you
know the landscape of it all. But uh, and you
know it'll be I think we don't even know for sure,
(52:01):
probably for you know, a couple of years. You know,
how this, Paul plays out. I think there's going to
be good and bad to it. I asked a lot
for an upcoming story some of the kids about it,
and you know, there's mixed opinions from kids who some
say it's good, some say, you know, I would never transfer,
and and but I'm you know, they they think it's
good for kids maybe who may not have an opportunity
(52:22):
at their school to play, to maybe go to a
smaller school or a different school to have that chance.
So uh, but yeah, I think that's a that's a
pretty significant change that was made. And you know, it's
still nice, says hands to make decisions on you know,
the transfer rule and to be able to kind of
meet out the decisions, so you know, it's not in
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the hands of the legislature, so it's i'd say, still
making those decisions. But but some of the rule changes
have you know, maybe made things a little bit more
black and white than they used to be, which I
think can be a good thing moving forward. But yeah,
we'll see how that plays out. But I think that's
probably the biggest thing to going on from a just
an overall high school sports standpoint. A lot of conference
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changes and things like that. But but but, but I
would say the transfer things is probably number one right now.
Speaker 1 (53:10):
I know, I thought for sure you're going to say,
you can't believe that Josh Thompson went from bar Reeve
to Lagodi as they had basketball coach. You've got to
be a little bit insane to do that, don't you not,
because it's a bad gig. But yeah, yeah, good luck
in that area going from one to the other. Josh,
come on, who's a good dude, by the way, really
good dude.
Speaker 3 (53:31):
Yeah he is. I ran to him at the Charlie
Hughes But yeah, that was interesting, interesting move down in
that part of the state. So uh but yeah, but yeah,
that that'll be. There were a lot of coaching changes
too this year there and Corey Taylor. Just today, I've
hired at Avon, who was interim coach at BD a
couple of years ago. But I think that almost closes
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the cycle here in Central Indiana anyway, unless I'm missing somebody,
I probably am. But we're pretty much said as far
as basketball coaching changes being.
Speaker 1 (54:03):
Pil you mentioned you know where because You're obviously from
there Brownsburg, and you know how consistent they are across
the board athletically. We know about Ben Davis. Where's Avon
in that category right now as they hire the new
basketball coach across the board as far as consistent, high
level winning in athletics out there, Avon's on the rise.
Speaker 3 (54:24):
I would say football, basketball, a lot of sports that
a lot of sports have been good at. Maybe they
don't maybe get the headlines of football and basketball, but
I would say both sports. You know, Drew Shaus was
just there for four years and I thought did a
really good job. They were a twenty win team last year,
you know, two years ago, won a sectional and then
last year, you know, in a very competitive sectional with
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with Brownsburg, Ben Davis, Pike and Plainfield, which that's going
to be a dynamite sectional this coming year. But I
would say, you know, they're definitely on the rise. I
think Corey's going to do a good job there. He's
you know, had that experience two years ago as the
interim coach, uh so I think you know, highly of him,
and then the job he'll do there, and then the
football team, you know, they were you know, Rob Gibson
(55:09):
who who coached Owen Valley uh before he got the
Avon job and kind of got that program really jump started.
Uh But he's come in and done a good job
for that football team. But you know, again they're it's
tough with you know, when you're in the HCC, you
know you're playing these these tough teams a weekend, week out.
Their quarterback I hurt early in the season last year.
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Uh So they only finished three and seven, but it
was an improvement from where they were the previous year.
And you know, I think they're you know, there's definitely
a team that I think could get over the hump
this year and be a be a winning team. Uh
if they can stay healthy and those sorts of things.
But there, you know, their facilities again much better than
they were. Their weight room is stop notch. And you know,
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I think they're on the rise in a lot of
different sports.
Speaker 1 (55:53):
Well I bring that up because you talk about in
closing here Hendricks County or Western Marion County, get Ben Davis,
you get playing field. You know, Moresville gets talked about.
I mentioned Brownsburg and even further west, you go all
the way to Danville and everybody gets talked about, you know,
high level wise, but oftentimes in the middle of that conversation,
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you don't hear a great deal about Avon and kind
of wonder if the tide we'll turn a little bit
now for the.
Speaker 3 (56:18):
Orioles, definitely, and you know Mark Buss, you know when
he was coached there, they were you know, they were
really good for a while. You know, they were they
were always competing with you know, they were beating Ben
Davis's kind of back and forth. They'd beat them or
or you know, they'd get be buying, but they were
in the mix anyway. And then I think it was
twenty fifteen, you know, they went down to Center Grove
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and you know, played a classic. It was one of
the best games I've ever seen in the semi State
against Center Grove, and Center Grove beat him. It was
here when they had Brandon Peters at quarterback and they
were just really, really good and lost by a point
in double overtime. That team could have definitely won State,
you know, if they would have won that game, but
that was you know, so what I'm saying is basically,
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sometimes you miss those chances. You know how much that
may have changed I don't know, you know, the future
of the program. They were good for a few years
after that under Mark Blast, but then they kind of
fell off and they're trying to build back to that. So,
you know, they're a team that has talent. It's just
a matter of, you know, kind of getting things going
in the right direction. Football that's hard sometimes because you're
(57:22):
you know, it's you're battling against teams that are established
in your neighborhood. So but I do think they're a
team that definitely has a chance this year to you
probably want to keep your eye on what they do
and be curious how their season transpires.
Speaker 1 (57:36):
He is Kyle Nett and Rip of the Star where
slowly but surely kick starting again the twenty five twenty
six high school athletics schedule. He's with us on the
Andymore Automotive Group pile line. Good update. We'll do it
again very soon because as you mentioned, about a month
away from the start of the football season. Man, I
always appreciate that.
Speaker 3 (57:57):
Hey, no problem, John, anytime, and you have good one.
We'll talk to you soon.
And the Andy Moore Automotive Group podline something else. You
were waiting on Greg Rekstraw, who is not so fresh
back from Iceland and had a planes and trains and
automobiles type of experience trying to get his ass home,
didn't you, buddy.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
Well, I had to settle for doing three and a
half hours of radio from the brickyard and not six.
So yeah, for stepping in.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
That's always good. That's always good. Here, Hey, shout out
to Todd Meyer, by the way. So Todd Meyer was
in Michigan when he was orchestrating this because of the
whole flight situation with you, and was kind enough to
bring me back a case of le Bat's Blue light
in bottles and a case of le Bat's Blue non
(00:45):
Alcoholic in bottles.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
Well, why would you get the non alcoholic, Joe?
Speaker 1 (00:49):
No, it's for somebody else, not for me. Okay, now,
it's all I go alcoholic, go home, that's what they say.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
So you did two and a half hours of radio
and you got a case of and you got an
Iceland football start out of the Yes, I'd win for years.
Speaker 1 (01:04):
That was a big win right there. Now, where are
you with Labat's Blue.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
If somebody hands me a cold beer, I'll drink it. John,
That's kind of where I'm at.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
I loved the Bats, but I drank Le Bat's Blue
in college and Indiana State.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
I think all of us went through a Canadian beer phase.
In college.
Speaker 1 (01:21):
We did.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
Yeah, it was for me. It was Molson Canadian was
the beer of choice cirt in nineteen ninety five?
Speaker 1 (01:28):
Was it Molson Golden? Do they still make Molson Golden?
That was popular back in the nineties two.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
It was just straight Molson Canadian. There was a Triple
A baseball team in Vancouver that was the Canadians, and
basically it was the logo off of the beer bottle,
and so that was, you know, whatever, Molson Eyes because
we were, you know, we grew up in the ice
beer age.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
Yes we did.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
You'll make the beer cool. Just put Iceland a mixed
it be cool, right, right? So, so ad some Molson
Eyes because I did have a Canada trip for like
a week when I was in college in the summer
of ninety five. But of the Molson family of beers,
Molton Canadian was my favorite.
Speaker 1 (02:07):
Do you think ice Tea or ice Cube ever tried
to sue because they were the major reasons why I
always felt the ice beer craze took place in the nineties.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
Now, man, it was what made him popular? Is it
was pre advertising for him?
Speaker 1 (02:22):
Oh you think so?
Speaker 2 (02:23):
And those guys absolutely like ice cubes.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
Is always trying to make a buck out of that.
I'd think he'd be the first one to go, well,
wait a minute, all of a sudden, we got all
this ice stuff going on.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
I need still both those guys that fared pretty well
in life. I think you made it out.
Speaker 3 (02:34):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (02:35):
I will tell you this. There was a I went
through a small craze in the late nineties early two
thousands with j. W. Dundee's honey brown. Did you nevergot
about it until I found out it was like five
hundred calories of bottle.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
Well, apparently I've been drinking them for some time, and.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
Apparently, JW. Did you ever have any j W. Dundees Brown?
Speaker 2 (03:00):
It was phenomenal beer. I know what it was like
drinking a cineamonarole apparently.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
And I went through a lot of the the ice
beer phase of the Bat's blue phase, the amstell light phase.
I had some of that last weekend, and it wasn't
what I thought it was am still light, so yeah,
but also JW. Honey Brown.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
We would have to pay the rent kegger last Friday
of every month, and one day we stumbled into getting
a Killian's Irish red keg, and like this pre social media,
words spread around campus and the party got just a
little bit too big. I was getting a little bit nervous, yes,
but Rehet was well paid that month.
Speaker 1 (03:39):
Me tell you over in Tera hate at the then
and I'm obviously with somebody else now, But in ninety
three ninety two, ninety three was a party cast over
on Third Street and we would go get a keg
of bush Light Draft. That was the go too. But
I would take because they would send me back to
the cooler and I'll would like carry it out. I
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would take one of the lids the Heineken caps off
the Heineken keg and then put that with and people
would go up and like like pump the keg and
think that it was Heineken, when in fact it was
bush Light Draft. I thought that was savvy as l.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
And they frankly wouldn't know the difference. It wouldn't So
the mini bar in the room on the cruise you know,
had like two coach two died to coach, four things
and Tito's, a couple of bottles of Heavy and the
Heavy Phenomenal, and a couple of Heinekens, And basically we
had the package. Rin could drink anywhere on the boat,
you know, for free. And so it was a lot
of mccardi's and coach because they're on vacations. What you
(04:38):
do even with fifty five degrees, you know, I would
have pina coladas looking at icebergs. It was a wonderful trip.
I had the one Heineken in my room and I
got about happening him like this is absolute swill. So yes,
playing that off as a bush light is perfectly bault.
Speaker 3 (04:51):
Up by you.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
Oh yeah, hey, by the way, Gritty says, Molsten Golden
was our beer of choice at the Office Lounge in
the early nineties. That's the Office lone lounge on the
East third Street in Bloomington. That's a place where we
need a tavern tour stop. The Office Lounge in Bloomington.
Speaker 2 (05:07):
For sure, as you're pipping out you had one tavern
two or up available there you go, are you going
to beat there?
Speaker 1 (05:11):
And that would be what you know, we're going to
in September. We're doing a Largecybourbon locks and the Lunazul
tequila shots from the upstairs pub.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
There you go, that's nice, well done.
Speaker 1 (05:21):
That is nice. Hey, I wanted to ask you regarding
a lot is made about the quarterback situation. Somebody had said,
all we do is see they're really good throws by Richardson,
and you know that's just angling to give him the
starting job. And while I listen, it's okay if you
described this as a competition, the worst case scenario in
(05:42):
this competition is if Richardson gets beaten out in it.
Would you not agree?
Speaker 2 (05:47):
Yeah, I would agree with that. But again I legitimately
think whoever the better quarterbacks is at the end of
August will be the starter because everybody knows you've got
to win now or if not, it's reset time. Say this,
Having been there for the last three practices, I have
seen more good than bad from Anthony Richardson. You're seeing
some more touch on some throws. And it's not just
(06:10):
the you know, fifty yard bomb. He's throwing the outs
a lot better. There's there's still some bad plays in there,
like literally there's this little set they run on the
goal line today. That is supposed to be kind of
a shovel pass to Tyler Warren. He threw it from
four feet away, through it a foot behind him and
(06:30):
I'm like, I'm like, I could make that throw. How
are you missing that? But at the same time, I've
been watching the last couple of days, I saw more
good plays than bad, and I saw throats that have
given him fits be done better. Is it perfect dough?
But did he kind of look more like the guy
as a rookie that was a sixty percent passer, which
(06:51):
is much closer to what you need to be in
the National Footballleague to be successful than say, being a
guy who was subbed fifty percent, which gets people fired.
He looked more like like like the first guy I mentioned.
So there's still there's still a lot of proof of
the putting in terms of what he looks like in
preseason games, what he looks like in regular season games.
But based on what on all we have to judge
(07:14):
it on. So far through a week of training camp,
there are places where I see improvement from Anthony Richards.
Speaker 1 (07:20):
Greg Gregsraws of the Andy Morra Automotive Group padline he
was at coach practice a little bit earlier today. This
probably all comes out in the proverbial wash here on
either side. But do you think that it is more
this wide receiving corps that would have the opportunity because
I think that we downplay them a little bit, or
(07:40):
they're downplayed nationally a little bit because they haven't had
an accurate quarterback throwing to them. I think if somebody
is in their general vicinity, I think they can make
that somebody look good. Do you think that is a
possibility or is it more you have to be on
target with these guys to make the quarterback whomever this
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is going to be, look good.
Speaker 2 (08:04):
I really don't have a question about the skill position
players for the Colts. I honestly don't now other than
quarterback that obviously we have questions about that. But Jonathan Taylor,
we know what he's about. Tyler Warren, we saw it
at Penn State, and I think that skill set translates
to the National Football League. There are questions about a
(08:25):
d Mitchell Again, he made some nice plays today too,
but frankly, you know, he's kind of fourth a depth
chart right now, and I like the three guys that
are in front of him in terms of Pierce, in
terms of downs, in terms of Pittman. So I do
think this wide receiver group is solid and capable. I
like what in the edition of Warren is a tied end.
(08:45):
We know what Jonathan Taylor is about. There's always question
marks in every team if somebody were to get hurt,
But I you know whomever the quarterback is going to be.
I think that quarterback has the skill position weapons to
be successful.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
Extras with us, we both grew up Reds fans. However,
I'm assuming if you were like me and you are,
you had a great deal of admiration because in the
cable era, even though I didn't have it, I got
to see it more often than not at different places
that you saw the afternoon Cubs games. And he was
(09:21):
an incredibly special player, and yesterday we learned he passed away.
What Ryan Sandberg is a player mean to you as
a budding baseball fan of the.
Speaker 2 (09:30):
Day, Well, obviously you saw him in every All Star
Game for the other part of a decade. And yes
there was the rub that all of baseball got, but
especially the Cubs in the Atlanta Braves because you knew
they were going to be on every day, and I
think you and I lived a similar existence. My guess
is you didn't get cable until you went to college
(09:50):
for the first time.
Speaker 1 (09:52):
Nineteen eighty eight, we got a satellite dish, one of
those big moonraker things that got everything. That's the first
time I had cable.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
For some reason. My mom and dad got satellite when
I moved away, too, So I literally I remember being
able to watch the US Open on you say, in
the fall of ninety four, I moved to the University
of Indianapolis, thinking cable is great. I may never leave
the room again. So did I watch Rhino play on
WGN when I was at a buddy's house or staying
with somebody. But was there more love for him nationally
(10:25):
because of the timing of when he played for the Cubs. Yes,
But was he a no doubt Avalot Hall of Famer, Absolutely,
and for the most part, other than eighty four and
eighty nine, he was a great player on bad teams,
you know, for the better part of a decade. So
any one of our age knows how wonderful of a
baseball player Ryan Sandberg was, And frankly, virtually every story
(10:50):
you have heard over the last twenty four hours since
his passion became public. Was that. I mean, in virtually
every meeting in a public setting, he was an absolutely
first class person too.
Speaker 1 (11:01):
Speaking of baseball, I'm trying really hard not to jinx
the Reds, but I may have done it with Lance
McAllister yesterday. Every time I get excited about this group,
they end up crapping the bed every time.
Speaker 2 (11:11):
There is something to be said about playing the Dodgers.
The Dodgers are pretty good, so maybe that was more
about what the Dodgers.
Speaker 1 (11:17):
Did, right, Yeah, but the Reds are still, organizationally speaking,
habitual bedcrappers.
Speaker 2 (11:25):
As they also have a couple of pretty good teams
in front of them too, so they're at least in
the mix, which they were at the start of the season.
Speaker 1 (11:35):
Greg Raigshaw's on the Andy Moore autom Motive Group plot line.
Hopefully I see you out there on Thursday. How about
that you will not.
Speaker 2 (11:41):
I'm booked elsewhere on Thursday. I've got the City League
Finals on Thursday, so my next appearance at Colts Camp
will be on Sunday. But I'm sure our past will.
Speaker 1 (11:50):
Cross the City League Finals.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
That basketball, that is that old man basketball that it's
twenty to thirty year.
Speaker 1 (11:57):
Old basketball playing this league.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
A lot of the guys that have played in that
final over the years were actually playing in the TBT
event in Wichita this weekend, the Failed Harder team, so
it has kind of some different teams. So Aaron Henry,
Robert Glenn, Tayshawn Johnson, Trevion Blewett, We're all playing in
the men's championship game, which is at a twenty. The
womens championship game has three of the Goss sisters on
(12:21):
one team. The other team is led by Ali Becky,
who just graduated at Ball State from Brownsburg as part
of their state runner up team four years ago, and
they are playing for a cash prize Honnord Fitness Center
at Tech and we'll have that for a six consecutive
year on ISC women's game at seven o'clock, Men's game
at eight twenty.
Speaker 1 (12:41):
Well done, right there. Jesse Benga was playing on that
tv T right on Fail Harder trec.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
Yeah, he was on the Fail Heart So Darius Adams,
obviously you ind legend has been over in.
Speaker 1 (12:51):
China forty two in that game the other night.
Speaker 2 (12:56):
Which is kind of what Darius has done as a
pro for the better part of the last ten fifteen years.
But Kobe Webster from Park Tudor was a big part
of that, and those guys made it as difficult as
possible and came damn close to making in the semi finals.
Speaker 1 (13:11):
Greg Greg straws are the Andy Moore Automotive Group pile Line.
My brother will see you very soon. Thanks for the shirt.
Speaker 2 (13:17):
And thanks for the filling on Saturday. Greatly appreciated.
Speaker 1 (13:20):
Got it, Greg, Greg Straw who's been fighting through the
heats well. Our next guest on the Andy Moore Automotive
Group pie Line from the Indianapolis Star. He covers the colts.
Joe A. Erickson was us and you know I've mentioned
this before. Unfortunately, at the age of fifty five, I'm
kind of this perfect mixture between hillbilly and douchey. So
(13:42):
the douchey and me wanted to know, do you strategically
during these hot and humid days like today, for example,
select a shirt so you don't get sweat and pittstains
going when you're covering the colts up there.
Speaker 4 (13:57):
You know what, that's a good question. We what a
time I always have, So I'm kind of out of
luck on that, but I do pretty much the dry fits.
Speaker 3 (14:12):
Now.
Speaker 4 (14:12):
If I have to do spot for my.
Speaker 5 (14:14):
Friends at Fox fifty nine and TVs four, yes, often
breathe a second T shirt, a second polo shirt in
order to avoid some of those those issues.
Speaker 1 (14:25):
So unlike you, when I'm on with our friends, you
do first in Joel, I do when they call me,
and most of the time i'm you know, hopefully I'm
not drunk on a Sunday to come on their Sunday show.
Normally I do it shirtless. So yeah, there's a huge
gap between our professionalism right there on Fox fifty nine,
(14:47):
and I can only imagine whom they like better Joel
at this point in time, haven't you or me on?
Speaker 4 (14:54):
Well? Well, I think sometimes we share the same show
because you're on Blue Zone as well.
Speaker 1 (14:59):
Yeah, yeah, and.
Speaker 4 (15:01):
Usually usually that's my recap part once we get to
the season, so we we shared the same show. Now, obviously,
as you're doing oh I'm doing it from the stadium,
we're gonna have a little bit different mode address.
Speaker 1 (15:13):
I thought that I was as responsible as two weeks ago.
Phil called me and he goes, hey, you want to
come on and do a tape segment. I think Hagen
was out, he was someplace else, and I said, yeah, Phil,
but man, it is entirely possible that I am going
to be way, way too much in the bag by
the time taping rolls around here. So he goes, hey,
(15:35):
you know what, just go ahead and stay ahead, stay
with what you're doing right there, because there has been
a time before, they go would you mind taping this over?
Speaker 3 (15:46):
Go?
Speaker 1 (15:46):
Yeah, David, over yet if you guys will. But now,
it's a fun group and that's part of it too.
I mean, you're more the serious newsworthy and I'm you know,
more of the douchey, jack assery kind of thing. So
it's kind of, uh, you know, you get you get
service from both angles, which I think is good and
and you know this to be true. It is a
(16:07):
very good group to be a part of and to
work with, even though I do it for free. How
about that? So I do it for free. I do
it for free because Hagen does it for free from me,
just like you do. So but hey, I was thinking
about you. We just popped open a little field of
dreams with Drew Storn his product. Oh yeah, we just
(16:28):
popped open a little field of dreams and they have
baseball players on on the cork, on the lid the cork,
if you will. And we just popped open and Field
of Dreams about an hour ago, and Robin you Out
was the player on the cork. But that is that
your favorite brewer of all time?
Speaker 4 (16:46):
Robin Youut, I'm a little bit young. He's my favorite,
but he's by far and away the greatest brew of
all times. There's really no.
Speaker 1 (16:57):
Comparison, agreed, And he he is. He he stayed there,
he never left, whereas Molitor left and you know, delivered
in Toronto as well. I am a big fan of
Harvey's Wallbangers in eighty two and one because I hate
the Cardinals, but I wanted to see Milwaukee, you know,
(17:17):
when they were a part of the American League, then
they were in the eighty two World Series, and wanted
to see them win. But from youw to Malitor, to Gantner,
uh to Ogil v Cecil, Cooper Gorman, Thomas, Ted Simmons,
you know Vukevich. And I don't know if you knew
this or not, but I was talking to Taekwan Lewis
last week. Taekwan Lewis's hometown is Tarboro, North Carolina. Is
(17:42):
also the hometown of former right hander Mike Caldwell of
the Milwaukee Cos. Yes, I did not.
Speaker 4 (17:49):
I did not know that h Annymore is now d
L Hall, who's on the current Brewers.
Speaker 1 (17:55):
Okay, that's awesome.
Speaker 4 (17:56):
Yeah the other that's the other Colts player connection there
anyone out and visited their training camp this year and
didn't didn't know I was a Bruise fan, so I
commented on it. I think I got myself in trouble
a little bit, but it works out. He knows I'm
a Bruise fan. Now we got it figured out.
Speaker 1 (18:14):
Did you see our guy Yoho go out there and
Pitts last night?
Speaker 4 (18:18):
I did? I did. I keep waiting. They need to
give him a little bit more of a chance, but
I get it. Yeah, you get two guys on and
in that series, you're gonna have to go to the closer. Yeah.
I've been pulling for Yoho for a while now. I
keep waiting for a chance for him to be on
the roster so my kids can go to a game
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and hold up a word from Fisher's two side.
Speaker 1 (18:41):
Yeah. Well see, it's awesome. Yoho by the way, is
a name synonymous where I'm from in Green County, Green
it is, so it is Yoho is. And I didn't
even know there's a Yoho that I work with from
Zinc that I think lives in Plainfield, but I didn't
know the Yoho's got all the way up in Hamilton
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County like that. And and Craig Yoho is won. I
felt bad for him last night because when he faced
that last hitter and and walked him the uh, the
walk to the mound was not There was a lot
of mumbling going on when he was taken out. If
you could tell last night, little red face mumbling going on.
Speaker 4 (19:22):
Yeah, Pat Pat doesn't, that's not really you know, the
new school manager is uh, you know, very calm and
collected and you know, never let his emotions show. But
Pat Pat Murphy is not in new school. He's the
old school.
Speaker 1 (19:36):
He was not happy at all. And I got to
get Craig Yoho on this show at some point. I
don't think he's ever been on. But it is a
cool as hell story. And obviously, the Brewers beat the
Cubs last night, Dodgers beat the Reds last night. That's
what's going on. In the NL Central. I didn't want
to ask you this regarding the Colts to start so much, Joel,
the focus has been on the quarterback situation. Uh, there's
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no no matter if it's Richardson, if it's you know,
Daniel Jones. Is there anything significant, either good or bad
that a lot of people are missing out on because
there is so much of a laser focus on the
quarterback situation and position right now.
Speaker 4 (20:17):
I I kind of would say, I don't. I don't
think so, because I think the one development that it's early.
You don't know if this is a thing or not,
but it's just really the receiver who's been the most
consistent has been really good so far, as with Alex Pearson.
There's been some inconsistency elsewhere. But I think if you're
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I think if you're paying attention to the quarterback battle
and really living and dying on it, you probably know
that from reading the stuff we've written from out there.
I think that's the only thing. I think everything else
has kind of looked a little bit the way we
expected it to. I think that I think that what
we've learned is, you know, over the years here is
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that as much as you want the quarterback to not
matter as to have an outside impact on this football team.
I think Colts fans bight now know that's that's just
what's gonna happen. So yeah, I kind of think that
I kind of get it when it comes to focusing
hard on the quarterback position. Although I did tell myself
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after I've typed up my observations today, I made a
note I got to have a little bit more on
the other parts of the roster and not just on
the quarterback position.
Speaker 1 (21:30):
Yeah. See, And it's funny here where we kind of
play the hits, and certainly that is the bit that's
like the Rick Astley and never going to give you
up in nineteen eighty seven eighty eight. Right here, you
just see you play it absolutely, you know, non stop
or the chumbul one, but tub thumping of the nineties,
you play it non stop. It's certainly worthy of it.
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But it's funny. I have a lot of confidence Joel
in the pass catchers because I believe there'll be a
lot of talent there. But if there has been, you know,
a major negative so far, and not just in terms
of a d Mitchell. It seems like that from what
you guys are talking about there have been a number
and really any numbers too many, A number of drops
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in the first week of Campauer.
Speaker 4 (22:16):
Yeah, it remains me seen if that's just sort of
a rough thing and we won't see it after the
first week. You know, it's small sample size, it's practiced.
You've got to try to you always put that in there.
But there have been drops, you know, Michael Pittman's had
some drops, Josh Allinsons had some drops. Tyler Warren has
had fewer I think outright drops. I think there have
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been some contested catch opportunities. But you probably want your
tight end to come away with that. He hasn't necessarily
come away with I do think the completion percentages of
both Richardson and Jones would be higher if they'd been
a little more sure handed. We'll we'll find out as
it goes along and as we get into the real
stuff in the games if if this is you know,
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something to worry about or something not to worry. But
you know, I think most fans know there was the
Jamar Chase's rookie year in Cincinnati. There was the Jamar
Chase is dropping everything in camp and then he went
out and had incredible season anyway, So you tend to
write some of that stuff off, but then there's other
training camp stuff that ends up becoming a thing. So
it's just hard to know. All you can do is
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kind of want it and write down what you see
and then make note of.
Speaker 3 (23:24):
It for later.
Speaker 1 (23:26):
If you were going to think during the season, is
this wide receiving group, And let's go ahead, and I'll
a factor in Warren as well, because it is something
we'll get into that in just a second what he
is doing so far and hopefully that is a translation
as a rookie to the regular season as well. But
is this pass catching group good enough to raise the
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game of either one of these quarterbacks significantly?
Speaker 4 (23:50):
To you, that's a great question. I think they've got
enough to help a quarterback in terms of in terms
of raising their game. I think that it's it's probably
hard for a receiving corps to do that. I think
what we've seen here is that the quarterback ends up
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affecting the pass catcher more than than the other way around,
you know. I think Alex Pierce is maybe the best example.
He definitely made strides over the last year, but a
big difference for for him, you know, from his first
two years to last year was last year he had
quarterbacks who were willing to throw it to him down
the field, you know, and and some of that stuff
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is kind of out of his control. I do think though,
that they have you know, they've kind of got every
type of target for him. They've got guys who can
do a little bit of everything. I think Shane Stiken
does a pretty good job of getting those guys open.
Based on what we've seen in the first two years,
I think that's all there. I think I think the
question I have is do they have the quarterbacks that
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take advantage of, you know, kind of the skill set.
They don't have the they don't have the Chase, they
don't have a guy who can do everything. But they've
got a lot of guys who can do a lot
of different things. That usually is enough if the quarterback
can take advantage of it.
Speaker 1 (25:09):
Right side interior offensive line, which obviously would hard target
center and right guard. Any concerns there at all, because
I think everybody feels good about Ryman and Nelson and
it looks like that you have a rejuvenated and in
a great place Braden Smith. From what we understood yesterday
when he was talking to you guys today or yes,
(25:30):
I think it was yesterday in fact he was talking
to you guys. But whatever the case, are there any
concerns on the interior that offensive line there on the
right side.
Speaker 4 (25:38):
I think the position I'm focused on right now is center.
They're not really rotating macenzalve that right guard bunch, which
tells me that they're pretty competent in and we'll we'll
find out in the regular season. That's not really his
natural position, but we'll we'll find out in the regular
season if they confidence is warranted center. Right now, it
has been a very even competition between Tanner border and
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Danny Pinter in terms of stats. So one guy is
getting one day, the other guy is getting the next day.
They're not really deviating from that. I think that's the
position I'm kind of paying the closest attention to right
now and wondering, you know, he's borderlining, maybe not taking
the step that they want that kind of thing in
terms of you want that pick to develop into the starter.
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But through the first six days, it's been very even
between those two.
Speaker 1 (26:27):
What if your eyeballs told you if anything whatsoever, I
don't know if it'd be definitive, but at least descriptively.
What if your eyeballs told you about Spencer straighter? Because
I kind of want to know what is going to
work for them? What are they going to trust with him?
How trust were they might they be with him in
this training camp in the preseason, what do you think?
Speaker 4 (26:49):
I think that the biggest kicks are coming starting with
Thursday night, starting with that big practice Thursday night. The
special teams coordinator there, Brian Mason, is really really good
about this Cat's laying it all out there for us,
and he told us today he gave us all the numbers.
He's thirty nine of forty three in the kicks they've
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graded through the first seven days or whatever. Trader's been good.
Trigo kind of had a rough week last week, and
then he bounced back this week and made all his kicks.
I think the biggest kicks though, are the ones they're
looking at that night practice as a pressure practice. The
joint practice is coming up, and then obviously the big
kicks in the preseason games is when I think that
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that we're going to really find out how they feel
about Spener, Trader or Mattix, Strigio, If Trader.
Speaker 1 (27:37):
Falters, Joey eericson of the stars, on the Andy Moore
Out of Money, if group Potline. The show is going
to be up there, coming up on Thursday, getting you
set for the night gathering at Grant Park and Westfield
with the Colts. I brought up Tyler Warren the rookie
a little bit earlier, and yeah, I think with good reason.
He's been conversationally at a very high level so far
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and less than a week of camp under in Westfield.
Do you think that they're going to utilize him as
much as some would suggest or believe they might, or
is this one of these camp stories that once you
get into the regular season that kind of phase a
little bit. What do you think?
Speaker 4 (28:16):
No, I I think they're gonna use I think going
back to the uh the offseason, you know, in the spring,
back in May and June. I think it feels like
they want him to be a big piece of this
and and the the interesting thing to me is going
to be what what do we see them do with
all of those other skills that he has with other
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tight ends. Don't you know the short yardage ability as
a quarterback? You know, can you use can you use
that as a as a wildcat but not just as
a wildcat? Like, does that make him a better screen
player than we've seen from the tight ends? You know,
can you throw in the shovel? That kind of stuff?
Uh is interesting to me. They need those run after
the catch type of players in the offense, and I'll
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be see he's that kind of guy.
Speaker 1 (29:02):
Yeah, it sounds I mean, let's simply put, I don't
know when's the last time, other than Dallas Clark, when
there was something and he maybe even goes a couple
of more dimensions than Dallas because it really wasn't necessary
to get that stinking tricky back in the day with
Dallas Clark. But seems like he is a Swiss army
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knife type that we have not seen certainly at that
position here before.
Speaker 4 (29:30):
Yeah, And I think that the running ability kind of
makes him I'm trying to think of another tight end
who kind of has that where you can I mean,
there's some guys who are good after the catch, but
they're more you know, down the field, open field. He's
a guy who's comfortable around the line of scrimmage, and
I think that that kind of makes him a different
There was a play in practice.
Speaker 6 (29:52):
The other day where Richardson threw it behind him on
a screen and just stuck his left hand back and
just caught it with one hand and kept going in
traffic at the line of scrimmage like a running back.
Speaker 4 (30:04):
That's that's just kind of a different skill set that
you see from most tight ends, and it's really interesting
to see how they use him. And also, just like
with everybody else, how do the quarterback play affect you?
Speaker 1 (30:15):
Yeah, no doubt, well, I think at this point until
further notice, I'd like to see this group have the
opportunity to raise the game. As I mentioned a little
bit earlier of the quarterback position. But you know, in
the past we've seen with Richardson it's been so far
inaccurate where most of the time it hasn't been possible.
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But then Joel I bring that up, and then it's
been very descriptive about how many drops we have seen
in almost the first week of camp. So you know,
one of these days, maybe the planets will align and
we'll get the opportunity to see something more legitimate. In
this case, hopefully it isn't as bad as it sounded.
Non contact caught it off. Doesn't sound good whatsoever. Anything
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regarding Jalen you can make us aware of.
Speaker 4 (31:02):
I I would just say that as hamstrings go, it
it didn't look great. Uh you know live he he
really pulled up hard and went to the ground and
didn't really didn't really move the carting off. They they
kind of do that with everybody because their medical facility
part is so far away from the practice field here.
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But I did think that that it looked like it
was you know, he felt that grab pretty tightly in
his leg. And you know, hamstring injuries can can be nagging.
I think everybody knows that it's and if they're serious,
they can they can last a little bit longer. So
I I have some some concern on that, just based
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on what we saw a lot of times when the
guy pulled a hamstring, you know, they kind of run
through it a little bit. He couldn't do that at all.
He he really pulled up hard on that injury, and
that's that's that's that's tough to see for a guy
who's you know, really locked into kind of a competition
for his spot.
Speaker 1 (32:02):
Yeah, yeah, Juju Brent's hamstring Obviously, injuries with juju is
something that seems somewhat, if not certainly customary with his
time with the Colds. What's the word there?
Speaker 4 (32:17):
Uh, that one's interesting. We didn't see he wasn't out
there today. We talked to him yesterday, so you don't
know when it happened. We didn't get to see that one.
I think anytime there's a hamstring, though, you gotta think,
like even even the most minor hamstring, you gotta immediately
kind of think a week. Uh, maybe a little bit
longer than that.
Speaker 2 (32:37):
You know.
Speaker 4 (32:38):
I know in the NFL sometimes guys play through hamstrings,
which I give it up to them, because, yeah, you know,
usually when you have a hamstring, you never know when
it's gonna grab on you and you can't run. But yeah,
this time of year, you figure that's at least a week.
And that's he's right in there with Justin Waly too,
and Wally right now is the only one healthy in
that competition.
Speaker 1 (32:58):
It's funny. I don't know. Maybe it's because he's got
a little bit of that local lean For me, I
just think that if he could piece together some quality availability,
he's going to be a guy in a season with
Lou Anroumo in this defense where everybody's gonna be glad
and he's going to go. People are gonna go, oh wow,
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this is what you've been waiting on. But it all
hinges on any sort of consistent availability.
Speaker 7 (33:28):
Yeah, he's looked good when he's been out there for
practice so far. He had an interception in one practice.
He's made some plays on the ball. I think that's
kind of how his career's gone too. I think when
he's been on the field, we've seen good stuff from him.
He just hasn't been able to stay on the field,
like you said, And I think if you can get
him a run of healthy play, I still think there's
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something in there. It's just man, it's gotta be tough
every time you feel like you're getting going again to
have your body kind of let you down a little bit.
Speaker 1 (34:01):
Are you a Bucks guy, Joel Milwaukee, I'm not. I'm not.
Speaker 7 (34:05):
That's the one team growing up in Wisconsin that I
never really got into. I I decided David Robinson was
my favorite player when I was like five.
Speaker 3 (34:15):
I'm a Spurs guy.
Speaker 1 (34:17):
Okay, that makes that makes sense. I was gonna I
was going to ask you the old Miles question. But
since you're not a Bucks guy, you probably don't give
a damn. That's all good, man, all good. But I
can go I can go deep on the Brewers. I
can go back before you were born. On the Brewers.
There were some great heiress. I was always a big
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rob deer guy.
Speaker 2 (34:39):
There was.
Speaker 1 (34:40):
I love the all or nothing dudes of Major League
Baseball back in the day. Loved it.
Speaker 2 (34:44):
Did you did you see what they did last.
Speaker 7 (34:47):
Week with their alumni event?
Speaker 1 (34:50):
I didn't so uh.
Speaker 7 (34:52):
They had They had the twenty five years of I
think of his Miller Park, but they call it American
Family Field now, and they brought back a player from
every year ostensibly or whatever. But then they took ten
guys recently retired guys and had a home run derby.
So Princefielder, Ryan Braun, Corey Hart, all these guys from
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the recent teams came back and did like an impromptu
home run derby.
Speaker 2 (35:19):
It was awesome.
Speaker 7 (35:20):
It was like it looked like the coolest thing, Like
what a great I like every franch I should copy that.
If they have their guys within the right age range,
you know, get a chance to see these guys that like,
you know, the Fielder and Brawn. Those guys are the
ones that ended the playoffs drout in two thousand and eight.
They brought them all back packed house on a Friday
against the Marlins and watched those guys hit and the
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other thing that I didn't know what they were going
to be able to hit, you know, not playing baseball
for a while. Just about every one of them hit
them like actual legitimate homers. Really cool event, like the
kind of thing that more Major League teams should do.
Speaker 1 (35:54):
Man, I love that stuff too. I agree. I absolutely
there was nothing even going way back to what I would.
You know, growing up, you had the old timers play,
and you know, some of those guys out there could
still swing it. It was pretty fun to watch. Some couldn't,
but some could.
Speaker 7 (36:09):
I mean, if the if the red said Joey Varo
is gonna get batting practice after.
Speaker 1 (36:13):
A game, yes, every Reds fan would go bet everybody
well and oftentimes it would be more interesting than what
the product would be on the field. So yes, like
like last night, I could see that, I could see
that come. I was telling Greg Greigshaw all this. I said,
you know, last night I kind of junked the Reds
because I had Lance McCallister on and talked up that
serious starter with the Dodgers, and he said, well, the
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Dodgers are pretty good, but the Reds are very well
known as being habitual bedcrappers. That's exactly what they are.
So when there's an opportunity to craft the bed, they're
probably gonna take advantage of it. That's kind of what
it looked like at times. Dodgers are good, but that's
what it at times looked like. Last night, First and
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Joel on Fox fifty nine, what are we going to
see you again?
Speaker 2 (36:59):
It will be I have.
Speaker 7 (37:01):
I believe I have segments taping on Thursday, or or
maybe not, maybe not taping. I might be live on
Thursday from from out there, right around the time you'll
be getting done with your show, I believe.
Speaker 1 (37:10):
Awesome. And then on Sunday, First and Joel and then
me shirtless with John so I'd be good. Great, Joe,
I appreciate it. We'll see it Thursday. Kyle Netting, Rip
of the Star who joins us now and Andy Moore
Auto Motive Group Hotline. So are you ready? Are you
in uh football operational mode right now? Or are you
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still taking that time off to get going.
Speaker 3 (37:37):
Well, I was hoping to hear some smoke on the
water from Deep Purple. Now that you know you brought
that to the Eastern greenplay.
Speaker 1 (37:43):
That still you know what we ran out to? Seriously,
the band played Peter Gunn when we ran out. We
ran out of the locker room and we ran through
one of those uh those paper hoops that had like
stuff hutting on it, like you know, beat the hell
out of the Cardinals, Bloomfield or whatever. We ran through
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one of those paper hoops to Peter Gunn. Hey, play
Peter Gunn really quick? What did you run out to?
Speaker 3 (38:11):
Kyle?
Speaker 2 (38:12):
You know.
Speaker 3 (38:15):
They played I remember them playing the Jay Giles band
centerfold that the band would play that.
Speaker 1 (38:22):
We should have played that.
Speaker 3 (38:24):
Yeah, they we actually ran out thunderstruck.
Speaker 1 (38:28):
Oh see, there you go. Here's what we ran out to.
Right here. Who is Peter Gunn by? But because of
multiple options play I've got blues brothers play play the
Art of Noise. Yeah, I think that's what we ran
out to. From nineteen eighty seven, this is what we
ran out to. I have no idea why to this day.
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I better stroke to three went around to this because
there's no excitement being built with this is their Kyle No.
Speaker 3 (39:05):
I mean, I guess it gets you in sort of
a melodic states or something. I don't know.
Speaker 1 (39:11):
Yeah, well, art of noise, I think. I think what
happened is I think our band learned one song that
year and that was it.
Speaker 3 (39:20):
Hey, I'm always any band who does it in person, now,
I'm all for it. I mean, I love it. When
the high school basketball starts and the band is there,
I'll give them credit for just doing it.
Speaker 1 (39:31):
Yes, here's what I bring this up all the time.
Like we talked about how high school athletics have changed,
but when you look at at bands and choirs, the level,
Like I went to a choir concert that my daughter
was a part of at the end of this last
year at Center Grove. I'm absolutely floored. It looked to
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me like it was better than a Vegas show or
a Broadway show. I was absolutely floored. And you know,
when I was in high school or in junior high
when you go to a choir Christmas concert, it'd be
a bunch of rooms standing up on stage singing let
it snow or something. But this was incredible and nobody
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makes a mistake and you've got all these moving parts.
So we talk all the time and rightly so it's
the sports show about how you know, things are you know,
more athletic and you know, more high level now in
athletics than they were back then. But man, this other stuff,
the band and the choir stuff is incredible to me.
Speaker 3 (40:37):
You're absolutely right, and I you know, and the kids
who are in those you acchoir band, you know, the arts,
you know, they're they're doing it for you know, they
don't they don't get the support necessarily like the athletes do.
But man, I've been around some really awesome experiences, you know,
just covering high school sports and getting to see the
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singers and the you know, the the bands and stuff
like that, and it really it adds so much to
the experience. It's hard to put into words how different
the experiences when the band is there and they're they're
doing stuff like that to spice everything. But it's it's
you know, I love that part of it. And high
school football starts here in a month or so. That's
to me, that's part of the fun of it. Is
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Like man, you know, every it's it's football, especially at
the start of school. Everybody's excited and it's almost like
a whole community experience, and that that is a part
of it too that sometimes we overlook, but you're absolutely right.
It's it's getting a lot, you know. It's it's it's
crazy how much time those kids put into it, and
it's awesome to see when they do get recognized.
Speaker 1 (41:39):
I saw it first time within and these these choir
folks work every bit as hard as these athletes do.
Serious absolutely, I mean they put in just as much time,
if not more than the the athletes. And it's crazy.
This is Colin Netwrip of the Stars on and Andy
Morro Automotive Group Hotline. I know you and others at
the start have been a part of, you know, going
to these these older gyms and and celebrating that and
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these are all they've all been great pieces. What I
was thinking about today because I saw a story online
a little bit earlier, there's a high school in Georgia,
Kyle that just built, just opened, in fact, a football
stadium that cost sixty two million dollars with ten thousand seats,
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fifteen luxury suites, thirty five hundred square foot video scoreboard,
two story field house of locker rooms. Buford High School
in Georgia is the location again sixty two million dollars.
So it got me thinking, what's the nicest, most expensive
I guess you would say high school football stadium in Indiana.
Speaker 3 (42:43):
Well, the way it seems like, the way that they've
been built, it's been more of like editions. You know,
we've seen, you know, stadiums that are already in place and.
Speaker 1 (42:53):
Said, I rely think Race Skillman's putting sixty two million
into one of these stadiums here is he?
Speaker 3 (42:57):
No, No, I don't think. And it's been kind of
a piece meal type, you know, the improvements that have
been done to places like Center Grove and you know
all of really if you drive around the four sixty
five and look, you know an outside for sixty five
all of the six A football facilities, Carmel's got one
going now Brownsburg has redone theirs completely. It's it's really
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really nice. You know, Avon's doing a lot of stuff.
You know, so all those suburban schools in the township
schools have put a lot of money into not only football,
but you know, facilities in general. Here in the last
you know, five years or so, so you're seeing a
lot of upgrades happening, and you know, it's it's kind
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of the keeping up with the Joneses thing anymore, you know,
to you know, it's sort of the you know, the
view of your school sometimes is based on right or wrong.
It's it's what you're doing with your athletic programs, and
the part of that is facilities and namely a lot
of times the football stadium. So you're seeing a lot
of upgrades here in the last few years, for sure.
Speaker 1 (43:57):
Yeah, no doubt about that. But sixty two million dollars
is rather incredible. You mentioned the start of the high
school football season about a month away, as many schools
in bark later on this week to back to school.
Is it same old situation in each class right now
or do we have some newcomers to the high level
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game going into twenty twenty five here?
Speaker 3 (44:21):
Well, you have there are some changes this year with
you know this, you know, Decatur Central actually is moving.
They won't five A last year and they're bumping up
to six A with the success factor that Ice Stay
has in place, So that'll be that'll be a little
bit different than than what we've seen the pass This
is their first time playing six A football, So you know,
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I think they definitely have the talent to compete at
that level. You know, a lot of a lot of
their skill position talent is back, including Kashmir Hicks, who's
who's going to IU to play receiver, you know, and
they're replacing Cathedral basically in that sectional Cathedral is bumping
back down to So you know that's a little bit
of a change that we'll see. And you know Decatur
(45:04):
will get a chance early in the season. You know,
they play Avon and Newpal. I can't remember the order
of that game those games, but they'll play those two
teams early. That will give them a good, you know
sense of of maybe how good they are. But also
Newpal is bumping up from four A to five A
and UH Heritage Hills to which one three A last
year is going to four A. So there are some
(45:25):
significant changes from the defending champions of last year. So
you know that'll add a little bit of a difference.
And it's not a it's not a reclass year either.
But you know, now that they're doing these UH success
factors annually, you'll see some changes every year by the
success factors, So you know that has changed some some
(45:46):
you know, some of the landscape of it a bit,
but I think six A is going to be great.
It always is. You know, Brownsburg won it last year.
But you know there's several teams you know that that
will have a good chance kind of like every year
in six A. And you know, as we know, it's
so hard to repeat in that class. So you know,
I expect that will be a really competitive, you know,
class like it is every year, especially around the Indianapolis area.
Speaker 1 (46:09):
Individual talent. Yeah, I know we're not into it just yet,
but expectations compared to for example, what we saw a
year ago, who may stand out? Who are we watching
for here in a month or so from now to start?
Speaker 3 (46:26):
I would see I wrote a little bit about the
kind of the mister Football favorites going into the season,
and you know, from a you know, from a standpoint
of you know, the people who can win it, it's
normally a skill position player, obviously, the the quarterbacks, receivers,
running backs. Who are you know, kind of the top
of that list. And I would say, you know, early on,
(46:47):
Jet Goldsberry comes to mind from Heritage Hills. He's a quarterback.
But we'll we'll be more of an athlete at Ole
Miss where he's headed, probably a secondary player for them,
but he's going to put up good numbers. He's already
got a state title under his belt. Casmir Hicks so
I mentioned from Decatur, also in that boat of he's
already won a state title going to IU, which I
(47:09):
think will help his case. And he's a receiver. He's
going to put up numbers at that spot. And then
another guy I'll give you a third name, or maybe four,
but I would say Deacon King from from Westfield, a
two way player. He's going Northern Illinois, but he plays
running back and safety, so I think he's a name
to watch potentially. And then JJ Finch also from more
(47:31):
in Central. He's a defensive player, which that's pretty rare
that a defensive player would be in the mix for
mister Football. But you know, he's his numbers are incredible
and he's going to Alabama, so he's obviously very talented.
So but yeah, he's going to put up big numbers
on defense. Probably you know, might not be enough to
get him over the hunt for the big award, but
(47:51):
you know, definitely a guy who should be named in
that mix for sure.
Speaker 1 (47:55):
It is amazing to see him. I mentioned this years ago,
and it's it's only and better just you know what
you see with the the high level team wise, it's
one thing and you brought up all these teams and
with the success factor, some moving up, maybe one like
Cathedral moving down. But individually speaking, the talent's never been
better around here in football, there's no doubt about that.
Speaker 3 (48:18):
No, the depth, the depth is just really good. I
mentioned six A, you know, but it's every class. You know,
there's there's just a lot of talent in every class,
and it's it's competitive, it's you know, there's there's people
who definitely, you know, would like to see the tournament
seeded maybe to get that, you know, to make that
a little bit more interesting maybe, but from at any rate,
(48:39):
it's it's always competitive in the tournament.
Speaker 7 (48:41):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (48:41):
Six A around here, especially the big schools are you know,
kind of knocking heads every year and you do end
up seeing a lot of some of the same names
at the end of the year. But you've seen also
schools like you know, Westfield breakthrough in these last few
years and become one of those major players in six
A and you know they've they've gone head to head
with with some really good teams. You know, we saw
Brownsburg for the first time in six they win it
(49:04):
last year. You know, they finally get over the hump
and made a tournament run. You know. So, see, you
have some other teams competing with the Center Grows, the Warrens,
the Ben Davises of the world, who were also very
good every year. But I think that adds a little
bit to it too, when you get some new blood
in there and see some different teams get to the
finals and eventually win it.
Speaker 1 (49:23):
All Right, so last year, Mark Zachary I won Mister
Football last year, right, and he played dual role both
offensive defense. Has there ever been just a singular defensive
player to win that award?
Speaker 3 (49:36):
No, you know, not really, I mean Zachary, you're right,
I mean he was a defensive player.
Speaker 1 (49:42):
I think Drake Bowen did the same thing, right. There
have been a number of guys, because you have that
level of talent, that have played both sides. Jason Warner
comes to mind. I think Jason wanted a wide receiver
and safety at Ron Colly two years ago. So some
guys come to Yeah.
Speaker 3 (49:56):
Yeah, those are good names to mention because all those
guys were defensive guys, but also, you know, you'd be
stupid not to play Mark Zachary on offense or Jason
Warner on offense, so that you know, those guys played offense.
They put up numbers, big numbers on offense. Drake Bowen
was a running back as well as linebacker who was exceptional.
That was fun to watch him play high school football.
(50:18):
But yeah, most of those guys, you know, if you're
gonna if you're a mister football type athlete, you're probably
going to play some offense too. So it hasn't really
been a case where, you know, and JJ Finch would
be you know, he's one who you know, he basically
all he's a defensive end, so he's not playing much
offense or any offense. But so he would be in
that boat of a defense only guy. But yeah, most
(50:39):
of the time, the guys who play, you know, defense
who want it, are also playing offense for their high
school teams.
Speaker 1 (50:46):
At least he is Colein Nett and Rip of the Star.
He's on the Anymore Automotive Group hotline. Curious as far
as the end of the high school schedule was basically
back in June with baseball and that conclusion. So what
have been what's been the major story? Maybe the major
storyline is we have entered no high school athletics and
(51:08):
then restart this thing coming up in a month or so,
actually earlier than that, considering I'm sure volleyball and other
sports are going to start prior to right.
Speaker 3 (51:16):
Yeah, you'll have some other golf and whatnot getting going here.
But but yeah, I mean kind of the the big
things has been the transfer rule. I would say. You know,
that went into effect on June first, you know, so
a lot of questions about that, a lot of you know,
kids who have moved. You know kids who have moved,
and it's normal, you know, I tell people too, it's
it's that's not that unusual. We always have transfers. But
(51:39):
now it's just going to be you know, it's going
to be a little different, I would say, And you
get mixed opinions on whether it's good or bad, like
a lot of things in this world. But that's probably
been the biggest thing as far as like just changes
in high school athletics from a standpoint of just you
know the landscape of it all. But uh, and you
know it'll be I think we don't even know for sure,
(52:01):
probably for you know, a couple of years. You know,
how this, Paul plays out. I think there's going to
be good and bad to it. I asked a lot
for an upcoming story some of the kids about it,
and you know, there's mixed opinions from kids who some
say it's good, some say, you know, I would never transfer,
and and but I'm you know, they they think it's
good for kids maybe who may not have an opportunity
(52:22):
at their school to play, to maybe go to a
smaller school or a different school to have that chance.
So uh, but yeah, I think that's a that's a
pretty significant change that was made. And you know, it's
still nice, says hands to make decisions on you know,
the transfer rule and to be able to kind of
meet out the decisions, so you know, it's not in
(52:43):
the hands of the legislature, so it's i'd say, still
making those decisions. But but some of the rule changes
have you know, maybe made things a little bit more
black and white than they used to be, which I
think can be a good thing moving forward. But yeah,
we'll see how that plays out. But I think that's
probably the biggest thing to going on from a just
an overall high school sports standpoint. A lot of conference
(53:04):
changes and things like that. But but but, but I
would say the transfer things is probably number one right now.
Speaker 1 (53:10):
I know, I thought for sure you're going to say,
you can't believe that Josh Thompson went from bar Reeve
to Lagodi as they had basketball coach. You've got to
be a little bit insane to do that, don't you not,
because it's a bad gig. But yeah, yeah, good luck
in that area going from one to the other. Josh,
come on, who's a good dude, by the way, really
good dude.
Speaker 3 (53:31):
Yeah he is. I ran to him at the Charlie
Hughes But yeah, that was interesting, interesting move down in
that part of the state. So uh but yeah, but yeah,
that that'll be. There were a lot of coaching changes
too this year there and Corey Taylor. Just today, I've
hired at Avon, who was interim coach at BD a
couple of years ago. But I think that almost closes
(53:53):
the cycle here in Central Indiana anyway, unless I'm missing somebody,
I probably am. But we're pretty much said as far
as basketball coaching changes being.
Speaker 1 (54:03):
Pil you mentioned you know where because You're obviously from
there Brownsburg, and you know how consistent they are across
the board athletically. We know about Ben Davis. Where's Avon
in that category right now as they hire the new
basketball coach across the board as far as consistent, high
level winning in athletics out there, Avon's on the rise.
Speaker 3 (54:24):
I would say football, basketball, a lot of sports that
a lot of sports have been good at. Maybe they
don't maybe get the headlines of football and basketball, but
I would say both sports. You know, Drew Shaus was
just there for four years and I thought did a
really good job. They were a twenty win team last year,
you know, two years ago, won a sectional and then
last year, you know, in a very competitive sectional with
(54:46):
with Brownsburg, Ben Davis, Pike and Plainfield, which that's going
to be a dynamite sectional this coming year. But I
would say, you know, they're definitely on the rise. I
think Corey's going to do a good job there. He's
you know, had that experience two years ago as the
interim coach, uh so I think you know, highly of him,
and then the job he'll do there, and then the
football team, you know, they were you know, Rob Gibson
(55:09):
who who coached Owen Valley uh before he got the
Avon job and kind of got that program really jump started.
Uh But he's come in and done a good job
for that football team. But you know, again they're it's
tough with you know, when you're in the HCC, you
know you're playing these these tough teams a weekend, week out.
Their quarterback I hurt early in the season last year.
(55:30):
Uh So they only finished three and seven, but it
was an improvement from where they were the previous year.
And you know, I think they're you know, there's definitely
a team that I think could get over the hump
this year and be a be a winning team. Uh
if they can stay healthy and those sorts of things.
But there, you know, their facilities again much better than
they were. Their weight room is stop notch. And you know,
(55:50):
I think they're on the rise in a lot of
different sports.
Speaker 1 (55:53):
Well I bring that up because you talk about in
closing here Hendricks County or Western Marion County, get Ben Davis,
you get playing field. You know, Moresville gets talked about.
I mentioned Brownsburg and even further west, you go all
the way to Danville and everybody gets talked about, you know,
high level wise, but oftentimes in the middle of that conversation,
(56:13):
you don't hear a great deal about Avon and kind
of wonder if the tide we'll turn a little bit
now for the.
Speaker 3 (56:18):
Orioles, definitely, and you know Mark Buss, you know when
he was coached there, they were you know, they were
really good for a while. You know, they were they
were always competing with you know, they were beating Ben
Davis's kind of back and forth. They'd beat them or
or you know, they'd get be buying, but they were
in the mix anyway. And then I think it was
twenty fifteen, you know, they went down to Center Grove
(56:39):
and you know, played a classic. It was one of
the best games I've ever seen in the semi State
against Center Grove, and Center Grove beat him. It was
here when they had Brandon Peters at quarterback and they
were just really, really good and lost by a point
in double overtime. That team could have definitely won State,
you know, if they would have won that game, but
that was you know, so what I'm saying is basically,
(57:01):
sometimes you miss those chances. You know how much that
may have changed I don't know, you know, the future
of the program. They were good for a few years
after that under Mark Blast, but then they kind of
fell off and they're trying to build back to that. So,
you know, they're a team that has talent. It's just
a matter of, you know, kind of getting things going
in the right direction. Football that's hard sometimes because you're
(57:22):
you know, it's you're battling against teams that are established
in your neighborhood. So but I do think they're a
team that definitely has a chance this year to you
probably want to keep your eye on what they do
and be curious how their season transpires.
Speaker 1 (57:36):
He is Kyle Nett and Rip of the Star where
slowly but surely kick starting again the twenty five twenty
six high school athletics schedule. He's with us on the
Andymore Automotive Group pile line. Good update. We'll do it
again very soon because as you mentioned, about a month
away from the start of the football season. Man, I
always appreciate that.
Speaker 3 (57:57):
Hey, no problem, John, anytime, and you have good one.
We'll talk to you soon.
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