August 12, 2025 • 35 mins
00:00 - 11:13 - Greg Rakestraw from the ISC Sports Network joins the show! Greg and JMV discuss the Colts QB battle, and who they think will come out on top. They talk about the Colts offensive line, and some of the battles for starting gigs with that unit. They shift gears and talk the upcoming high school football season as well.
11:14 - 22:08 - Bria Goss from the Fever Radio Network joins the show to help preview tonight’s showdown between the Fever and the Dallas Wings! Bria and JMV discuss how the Fever have handled all the injuries this season, and who has stepped up.
22:09 - 35:21 - Mike Sando from The Athletic joins to discuss his 2025 QB Tier List, which is based on remarks made by various NFL GM’s, coordinators, and more, and what the list says about Anthony Richardson and Daniel Jones. Mike gives his thoughts on the Colts playoff hopes as well.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
On the Andy Moore Automotive Group potline. I'm going to
follow him. He's in for Jake Query tomorrow out at
the Indiana State Fair. He's our good friend Greg Rakestraw.
You're excited, of course I am.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
I always like being in your warm up.
Speaker 3 (00:13):
Fact love that.
Speaker 1 (00:14):
So yeah, we're doing a little horse racing I think tomorrow,
right apparently.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
So I've been a little busy so far this month,
you know, doing NFL games and stuff like that.
Speaker 3 (00:24):
And going to Iceland and things.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
Yes, that too, yes, and obviously calling your show and
being a featured guest. Well, you know, still abroad, right,
I know that I have got like a war and
peace level of notes from John Griffin on the remote tomorrow.
Haven't exactly read them yet, so i'll bone up between now.
Speaker 4 (00:42):
One.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
Well, let me tell you this, you're not exactly in
the club yet until you get a voice message from him,
a voice to text message.
Speaker 3 (00:49):
That's when you know your legit.
Speaker 5 (00:51):
Brother.
Speaker 3 (00:51):
Let me tell.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
You you remember that we worked hand in hand for
a long time in that building, and despite his idiosyncrasies,
you know, Griff's one of my favorite people. So happy
to pinch it for Jake and be you know they
rarely let me out of the cage when I'm substitute teaching.
Speaker 6 (01:07):
No.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
Look, I'm going to enjoy my day at the state Fair.
I'll have deep fried something to celebrate.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
Greg was out there yesterday as well at Colts Camp
for that practice.
Speaker 3 (01:15):
And I'm curious if.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
You've noted this, and maybe I'm the only one, which
is I think fair to say that younger generationally speaking,
everybody is all in on Anthony Richardson and wanting him
to start the older generation like us seems to all
be on the side of Daniel Jones. There seems to
be I think a canyon of divide as far as
the age groups are concerned about. The quarterback of the
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Colts says that something you've noticed at all.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
I'm not sure if it's if I have noticed that
as much. I know that I have gone back and
forth a couple of times. Right now I am probably
leaning more towards Anthony Richardson, and that is not because
of any in particular. I think Jones is done wrong,
but I also don't think he has show Kate enough
or has been so different than Anthony Richardson. My thought
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has always been, if it is a tie. It is
going to be Anthony Richardson, and I kind of think
that's where it is right now. I do think there
are things about ar that have been better. Clearly, let's
pick up on one specific play last Thursday was one
of them. The more I have seen of Daniel Jones,
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the more I've got to see of Gardner Minshew a
couple of years ago, which did lead to nine wins.
I think his running ability is superior to Gardner, So
I think you can be successful. But I frankly have
not seen enough of a difference yet where I think
I would turn the keys over to Daniel Jones. They're
still I think this competition goes for least a week
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and a half longer. I don't think there's a starter
that gets announced next week. I think it's after the
Bengals game that we learn whom the next starting quarterback
of the Colts.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
Is going sid Greg Graysals are they Andy More Automotive
Group podline going to be in the booths coming up
on Saturday night too. We'll talk about that, you and
Rick Venturi and your special guests coming up in just
a minute for that Packer game. But I my thing
is that's why I've always kind of thought quarterback competition whatever.
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I just don't think that there is even close to
a legitimate enough opportunity for Richardson to be overtaken given
the circumstances of the preseason here. I just I don't
think there is. I think that plays as a part
of the dynamic as well. And why, you know, I
haven't always thought that this was going to be I
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guess to not legitimize this quarterback competition maybe completely wrong
by me, but I think all along we've kind of
known who is going to be the starter, and that's
who it's going to be in Richardson in week number one.
I just don't think there's enough opportunities for Daniel Jones
to overtake Richardson here.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
You know, I would disagree with you on that because
having been out there and not for every practice, but
for a lot of them, I can't tell you it
has been legitimately split in terms of time with the ones,
in time with the twos between the two quarterbacks. Uh am.
I like you know, Kevin Bowen, Jake Arthur in the
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old days, George Bremer, et cetera about charting every rep. No,
But but I think they had been given equal opportunity
and similar playbooks. It's not like they're running one set
of plays for one guy in one set of plays
for another. Again, I'm not sure I have seen enough
of Daniel Jones or him do things so drastically differently
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that I'm ready to say all right during at the
football to start the year, and and the other thing
that that, frankly, we have to kind of be ready for.
And Thursday night was a reminder of it that whomever
wins the quarterback competition, the other guy probably ought to
get ready because we haven't had we haven't had any
sort of proof and frankly wouldn't in the preseason in
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terms of the durability of Anthony Richards. And so if
Anthony wins the job for week one, what's to say
that Daniel Jones isn't playing by the end of that game,
or the next game, or the game after that, et cetera.
So I do believe in the legitimacy of the competition.
I just don't think I have seen enough from the
guy now wearing number seventeen, But he's going to overtake
the guy wearing number five.
Speaker 1 (05:21):
It's Greg Greg Straws are they Andy More Automotive Group Hotline.
Normally he's the postgame show host. He's got the duties
in the booth with the Ring Venturi coming up on
Saturday afternoon, and you get a little Colts ownership up
there with you.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
I guess right, correct, So Carly is going to join
us during the third period of the game. So Carli
will join us for an extended conversation during quarter number three.
Speaker 3 (05:45):
Good to see that live on there. Yes too, I
mean I like that.
Speaker 1 (05:48):
It's it's hard enough to move forward without Jim Mersey
because he was just the most significant piece of everything
and really so many other things other than just the
game of football around out here. But I always felt
that the fans really enjoyed, you know, getting getting that
content from ownership, and I'm glad to see that that's
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going to continue.
Speaker 2 (06:10):
That And you nailed it. It is we on that
broadcast are the conduit to the fans and so for
the fan base, and the Lord knows eirypiden Media turns
up that the monitors in the press box for the
third quarter of home game one or home Game two,
or in this case, the only home game of the preseason.
But this is a great chance for the fans to
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hear from ownership herself as to, Hey, this is how
I feel about the franchise, this is where I feel
about the direction, And obviously there's other things from a
personal standpoint, just going hey, you just lost your dad,
how are you doing? How are you coping with this?
Speaker 5 (06:45):
What?
Speaker 2 (06:46):
This is a monumental shift in what you kind of
have to to have the stewardship over the franchise. So honestly,
we could carry this conversation a lot longer than a quarter.
Will be limited by that amount of time, but I
don't think it will be a brief chat. We're planning
on having her for a good chunk of the quarter.
Speaker 1 (07:03):
Greg, has this offensive line performed as well or even
better so far in camp as we thought, given you know,
the the right side of the interior center, right guard
and that particular exodus. Are we pretty happy where things
are with that group right now?
Speaker 2 (07:22):
I'm not sure, And honestly, I'm not sure that we'll
have a full Maybe we'll get more of a full
appreciation for that on Saturday. You know, I don't know
if Quintin Nelson, Braden Smith, Bernard Ryman get a free
pass if Shane say can hold through to what he
said on Sunday and starters will play about a quarter,
I would assume that means everybody along the offensive line,
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and that can give you kind of a better version
of that, because I'm still not sure whether this penetration
in the backfield from the defensive line votes well for
our defensive line or doesn't vote well for our offensive line.
So I'm not sure I've got a quality answer for
you on that yet. I might have a better answer
come late Saturday afternoon.
Speaker 3 (08:02):
All right.
Speaker 1 (08:03):
Part of the issue right now is and at the
beginning of a camp, everybody who's really excited about what
they had witnessed in that secondary, but now it is dinged.
Speaker 3 (08:12):
Up beyond belief.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
But with that in mind, the two major free agent
acquisitions we saw with Ward and Bonham, what's been any
impression so far during camp?
Speaker 2 (08:24):
Well, so far again the fact that this secondary has depth,
And you're right, you know, Jonathan Edwards is getting reps
with the wrong ones. He's an undrafted free agent on
a tu lane crips. Lamons wasn't on the team as
of about ten days ago. Obviously has been around the
last couple of years. He's getting some time with the ones.
You know, Nick Crosbying nicked up a little concerning given
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the fact that he was, you know, so good last
year after really almost kind of taking two years to
learn the league, you know, being so young when he
was drafted out of Maryland. So are you know, are
are we seeing a lot in terms of playmaking and
practice from both you know, Ward and bind them at
this point, not really, but at the same time, again
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so much of even more so on defense because you're
not going to run these exotic schemes in practices in
front of fans in preseason games, and you know, for
other teams to get stuff on film. You know, on defense,
the proof is going to be in the pudding on
September the seventh. But just the fact that they made
that level of investment and you know, now you really
(09:29):
have again if everybody's healthy, you know, five guys that
have experience playing cornerback for you or elsewhere in the
National Football League or obviously a third round pick, which
that investment won't bear fruit now until next year. Because
of the injury to Justin Walley last Tuesday. I think
it's almost more of a numbers game and a quality
(09:49):
investment game. Do you feel pretty confident will pay off
and be an improvement over what we had here a
year ago?
Speaker 1 (09:55):
He is Greg Greg Straw before I let you go
on the doorstep of a high school football ca not
too far away, aren't we?
Speaker 2 (10:02):
Yeah, I'll quickly shift gears. I'll have one more NFL
game next Saturday afternoon, but a lot of next week
is going to be paired getting out of the high
school football season. So we're back on TV twenty three
for a seventh consecutive year. Lawrence Central and Lawrence North
is my first game of about sixteen I'll have through
a course of this high school football season.
Speaker 3 (10:23):
Well done. That is on the way.
Speaker 1 (10:25):
Hey, by the way too, for those asking, Because a
storm did sweep through initially about an hour ago, gates
at the State Fairgrounds were temporarily closed. They are back
open now for anybody that would want to know. I
think they were closed by I don't know, fifteen or
so minutes when the storm went through. But they are
back open and they'll be open tomorrow for Greg Ray
(10:46):
Straw noon until three and me three until six at
the Indiana State Fair. A little horse racing for us
tomorrow for six hours.
Speaker 2 (10:54):
Greg, that's good. I'm actually heading down Kee soon as
you speak. I was going to pick up my my
son from school at before, but screw it. I'll just
keep going down to forty second Street. Use the media pass,
get me a funnel cake, and enjoy the rest of
my day. Thank you for the suggestion.
Speaker 3 (11:09):
Well done. I'll see you tomorrow, buddy.
Speaker 2 (11:10):
Thanks Bell.
Speaker 1 (11:13):
On the Andymore Automotive Group Potline Tonight, seven thirty seven
fifteen with Eddie Garrison right here. That will lead into
John Nolan and our guest, the analysts on the Fever
Radio Network. The former Miss Basketball in the stead of Indiana,
the pride of Ben Davis High School, the most decorated
athlete ever at Ben Davis High School. Maria Goss joins us. Now, Hello, Bria,
(11:36):
how are you wow?
Speaker 7 (11:39):
What a duck stare about?
Speaker 5 (11:40):
Dad?
Speaker 3 (11:41):
I practiced that.
Speaker 1 (11:42):
I practiced that in the mirror for like an hour
before the show.
Speaker 5 (11:47):
Thank you, thank you.
Speaker 3 (11:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (11:51):
So have you ever seen anything like this with a team.
You've been around team sports all your life. With the
amount of injuries the such, you know most injuries are
going to be impactful. But I don't know if you
could have been more impactful than we have seen, especially
with one particular position. Have you ever seen anything like this?
Speaker 7 (12:15):
Not all in one position like this?
Speaker 4 (12:18):
This has been an unfortunate a series of unfortunate you
know events.
Speaker 7 (12:23):
Uh, just you know, one thing right, actually the other
In high.
Speaker 4 (12:26):
School my junior season, we had two starters who went
out with acl tears within forty eight hours of each other.
Speaker 7 (12:32):
So that was about as crazy as the guy. And
then we went on to, you know, win the championship.
So who knows what has in store?
Speaker 4 (12:40):
But unfortunately, these are the circumstances and we just have
to find a way to get things done, and it's
well within our grasps. Sometimes when injuries happen, you know,
teams tend to write to the occasion and become closer and
just kind of use that as a cohesive engagement to
keep on going and playing hard for each other.
Speaker 3 (12:58):
So who knows, you know, are you are you surprised?
Speaker 1 (13:02):
I mean, how impressed are you that the record is
what it is given the injury circumstances of this group.
Speaker 7 (13:09):
I'm not surprised.
Speaker 4 (13:11):
I'm very excited, but I'm not surprised, with simple fact
being we're deep. I think the whole staff that was
associated with the fever did really good job playing a
team together this year, and so you know, it's a
bit of a slow start at the beginning, and then
we of course hit the university, but we have players
that are ready to step into the challenge, and so
that's exactly what's been happening.
Speaker 7 (13:33):
And with the high.
Speaker 4 (13:33):
Level IQ of these players and the multiple positions that
can score out of high volume, like it's just again
not surprising, but I am really excited that we're in
the position that we're at. And it's actually scary because
if we were full of throttle, you know, like what
but the time will we be in if that was
the case.
Speaker 7 (13:53):
So really excited where we're at.
Speaker 2 (13:54):
Though.
Speaker 1 (13:55):
Break offs of the favorite radio network later off the night,
seven thirty is that tip time against seven to fifth
team coverage with Eddie Garrison right here tonight on the
fans See. You knew that the Sydney Colson thing was bad.
I didn't know about the ra McDonald thing until the
latter stages, however, I thought Kelsey and Mitchell kind of
thrown into those circumstances on Saturday night. Not only did
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she still high volume score, it as they absolutely need.
She I thought distributed the ball in a fact in
which they needed on that particular night against Chicago. I
was really impressed with her overall game, and you know,
passing the basketball, you know, getting things set up for
everybody else is not always something we describe her as
being facts.
Speaker 3 (14:39):
No, you hit it right on the nail.
Speaker 4 (14:40):
I mean with Sid and airy Bot's going out. You know,
Coach Steph White talked about how it did need to
be a total team effort and everyone needed to kind
of adjust and adjust pretty quickly. The thing about Kelsey Mitchell,
we know that she's been a bucket.
Speaker 7 (14:55):
She's been a bucket since o House State and coming
into the Leak, she's been a bucket.
Speaker 4 (14:59):
Her passing ability has slowly gradually just gotten so much better.
And not to say that she couldn't pass at the
beginning of her career, but you just saw those numbers
going up every single year and then so when she
has breakout games like this, especially when it's highlighted that
the point.
Speaker 7 (15:16):
Guard position is out.
Speaker 4 (15:17):
She's been a point guard for a large majority actually
of her time.
Speaker 7 (15:21):
With the fever, they had.
Speaker 4 (15:22):
Her running to one, so it's not unsimilar territory. But
the thing about Calton Mitchell that really sets her apart
is no matter what's going on with Kelson Mitchell, it
never affects her game. You know, it never with all
the outside ways or the underappreciation or you know her
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her father passed right before the season last year. Her
mother was really sick at one point, like there were
so many things going on, but you could never tell
because she's so level headed and she works extremely hard
and she tries.
Speaker 7 (15:54):
To perfect her craft. And so I always try.
Speaker 4 (15:57):
To get flowers to Kelson Mitchell for the simple fact
being she's one of those people where you got to
check on your quiet friends because she's always ready to
check on you knowing didn't will. There's many fires around her,
but she it never affects her job.
Speaker 7 (16:09):
So I can see her continue.
Speaker 4 (16:11):
To excel, especially in this season as she just became the.
Speaker 7 (16:15):
Lead leading scorer.
Speaker 4 (16:16):
She has the most in the league right now and
being a part of MVP conversation, so.
Speaker 7 (16:21):
Huge, huge shout out to her.
Speaker 4 (16:23):
She continues to perfect her game and we're just going
to continue to support her and see what she can
do against Dallas Night.
Speaker 1 (16:30):
How impressive has Natasha Howard been for you this season, man,
because you kind of wonder, I think, Brio, what might
have been if she's not here, because she has added
so much and I mean done it in a consistent fashion.
Speaker 4 (16:44):
Yeah, you know she it's not always you know who
filled up the stats sheet the most, right, she has
the ability to, which is great because just just adds
onto the strength.
Speaker 7 (16:53):
But what she brings as just a vet in this
league and.
Speaker 4 (16:57):
A person who's been a part of you know, championship
style teams and knows what it takes and it's coachable
and it's taking.
Speaker 7 (17:04):
You know, some of these rookies under her wing.
Speaker 4 (17:06):
Like she knows what it takes to get it done.
Speaker 7 (17:09):
And I think she's doing her part day in and
day out. So she's been very impressive.
Speaker 4 (17:13):
I know there was a lot of talk about you know,
the de Wanna Bonners and resigning Kelsey and you know,
Sophie coming to the team and having Howard was kind
of on the bottle of everybody's list, or they just
weren't talking about as much.
Speaker 7 (17:25):
And she's out here.
Speaker 4 (17:26):
You know, being having a being an MVP er that's
gonna come championship is just blowing every by away. She's
so so consistent in what she does. So we're super
excited to have her and we we love the thing
that she can do, not only on the court.
Speaker 7 (17:38):
Without the court as well.
Speaker 1 (17:39):
I'm considering, Bria, you've never been in a slump offensively
in your life, but let's just say maybe maybe just
as the circumstances did aligned for that one period of time,
and you know that's what Lexi Hall has been going through.
Speaker 3 (17:55):
How'd you get yourself out of it?
Speaker 1 (17:56):
And did we see her shoot herself out of that
on Saturday evening?
Speaker 4 (18:02):
So when I was in a slump, I would tend
to overthink, you know, like, okay, with my mechanics, what's
my footwork look like? Am I getting to my spot
and timing it right? And that think that was messing
with me even more, and so the confidence started to waiver.
So when you go through those shooting sumps, you just
have to remember all the work that you have put
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in to put yourself in this position.
Speaker 7 (18:25):
Got to kind of hype yourself up in a sense
of you know, I'm gonna lead like I'm going to.
Speaker 4 (18:29):
Look into the mirror, you know, and give you give
you some affirmations or you know, be around your team
who's always supporting you or whatever the case may be.
But you can't let the confidence waiver during those shooting pumps.
And Lexiehole, who went on a very short shooting slump there,
came back and just blew the roof off, didn't she.
She's so fun to watch and just kind of seeing,
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you know, how her game has excelled, you know, since
her rookie season has been amazing.
Speaker 7 (18:56):
So she's going to continue to get better.
Speaker 4 (18:58):
And she has great people are around her, that.
Speaker 7 (19:00):
Is that believes in her and pushes her. So she's
gonna be just fine.
Speaker 3 (19:04):
All right.
Speaker 1 (19:04):
So match up tonight against Dallas to getting seven thirty,
the coverage begins a little bit of a stretch running
and hopefully we don't know the circumstances, but hopefully Caitlyn
Clark is back at some point. And we're impressed with
the way of the fever I have still been able
to win at the level of which they have so far.
Speaker 3 (19:23):
Got to keep that up. What do you do against
Dallas later off tonight?
Speaker 4 (19:27):
Well, you know, it's hard to be the team three
times in one season, and it's even harder to be
the team.
Speaker 7 (19:31):
Four times, you know, in each season.
Speaker 4 (19:33):
So it's it's gonna be a difficult matchup, but well
within their ranks, I think rebounding and the rebounding battle
need to be need to be there.
Speaker 7 (19:42):
We got to win that boards battle.
Speaker 4 (19:44):
We need to put a lot of pressure you know,
of course on their guard play, which are you know, phenomenal, and.
Speaker 7 (19:50):
Then they can't really stop it in the post.
Speaker 4 (19:52):
So let's see if we can win the paint battle
as well, and see if we can just have more
points in the paint than they do and and really
honestly finish each quarter.
Speaker 7 (20:02):
So you do those, just keep.
Speaker 4 (20:05):
The main thing, the main team, and keep the game simple,
then this should be a pretty easy win for them.
Speaker 1 (20:10):
Seven eight and twenty four Dallas, it has been a
struggle eighteen and fourteen as the Indiana fever as they
continue to hang in and honesty Simms player wise, what
do you think about that, you know, hardship, hardship acquisition
that they went out and put together for the team
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for the obvious reasons of the injury concerns.
Speaker 4 (20:34):
Yeah, she's going to be a good addition, you know
as well.
Speaker 7 (20:36):
She's been around the league for years.
Speaker 4 (20:39):
I had the pleasure of playing against her in college.
Speaker 7 (20:42):
We beat him once. Actually it should beat me twice.
Speaker 4 (20:45):
So we played once once he was a Prittey Griner
and we got blown out.
Speaker 7 (20:49):
And then we played them. It was a specialty game.
Speaker 4 (20:53):
Our men's team and their men's team played right after,
so that was funny. It was a four overtime game,
so it was It was extremely tiring. But the great
and the enthusiasm and the passion that she plays with
plays right into what the Fever team need. She's a
downhill attack type of players. She knows how to find people,
especially in transition. But she is greedy and spicy and tough,
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and so that's the type of things that we need
from a point guard. And like I said, it fits
in so well with the team as.
Speaker 7 (21:23):
We have so many players just like that. So I'm
really really excited to see that.
Speaker 4 (21:27):
I know there will be some growing pains, Okay, So
it's not like if they're going to have it all
together tonight. We're gonna see some flashes of some really
good basketball. Then we might see them flashes of some
not to grow great basketball. But that's just a part
of the process as we you know, continue to play
throughout the season.
Speaker 7 (21:41):
But give them time.
Speaker 4 (21:42):
I think it's going to be a really really beneficial
for us.
Speaker 3 (21:46):
That is Bria Goss.
Speaker 1 (21:47):
You can hear our, John Nolan and Eddie Garrison a
part of the Fever broadcast later on tonight seven fifteen
pregame covering seven thirty Tip Time at the field House
versus Dallas and Bris on the andy More Automotive Group podline.
Always a player. We shall do it again soon. Have
a great broadcast to Nybria.
Speaker 8 (22:03):
Yeah, thanks so much for having me meantime of the
andy More Automotive Group potline from the Athletic has an.
Speaker 1 (22:13):
Interesting story regarding the opinions of coaches and executives in
the NFL on certain players, including Colts quarterbacks. Mike Sando
joins us now on the show. Hello, Mike, how are
you good?
Speaker 3 (22:29):
All right?
Speaker 1 (22:30):
Are there going to be many surprised Colts fans on
the reactions of the quotes you received from some of
these executives and the coaches about the Colts quarterback situation.
Speaker 5 (22:43):
I don't think so.
Speaker 9 (22:43):
I mean, everyone knows what the situation is, uh, and
you know it's a tough situation, right, I mean they
had really high hopes, took a flyer on you know,
a very raw prospect in Anthony.
Speaker 5 (22:56):
Richardson, and it has been tough sailing.
Speaker 9 (22:57):
So you know that's reflected in the evaluation, and I
think there's you know, you wouldn't expect people to be
super optimistic.
Speaker 1 (23:07):
So it was overwhelming that most that you talked to
felt that Daniel Jones will be the week one starter.
Speaker 9 (23:18):
Yes, he has, you know, shown a basic understanding of
running an offense and how to practice, how.
Speaker 5 (23:27):
To carry himself.
Speaker 9 (23:31):
Pal that those are areas where Anthony Richardson is green,
and so it would be more likely Daniel Jones would
be ready to give the Colts a better chance to
win week to week, even though Anthony Richardson's best plays
will be ten times better than the best plays of
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Daniel Jones.
Speaker 1 (23:55):
Mike Sandral the Athletic Talk CINNFL covers the NFL. His
late articles we're talking about right now is on the
Andy Moore Automotive Group hotline. So you yourself, do you
feel and maybe you can add into some of the
thoughts of those that you gauged on this too that
they feel things could be different for Daniel Jones with
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a change of landscape and a change of personnel from
where he was. I initially obviously he had that stop
over in Minnesota. But the change in personnel from the
Giants to what the Cults presently have.
Speaker 5 (24:29):
I agree with that.
Speaker 9 (24:30):
I think New York's a very difficult place for anybody
in a leadership role, and it is not for everybody.
You know, and if you look at you know, just
with the Jets and Sam Darnold and Gino Smith are
two guys that have gone on to you know, we'll
see if Daniel, if Darnald can sustain it, but looked
pretty good last year and then Geno Smith's kind of
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been reborn right now. That doesn't just happen. You have
to be able to stick with it yourself and keep
working at it. But I think Daniel Jones odds of uh,
you know, playing better probably go up with the Colts
relatives to the Giants. An easier place. You know, just
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about every place is an easier place in New York.
Speaker 1 (25:13):
Do you think this this Colts team can be a
playoff team with Daniel Jones at quarterback.
Speaker 9 (25:21):
I think that's unlikely in the AFC, with you know,
probably the you know, it's with CD Shroud in the division,
and I know they've played them tough, but I think
it's probably unlikely. If I had to bet everything I have,
i'd make it or not, I'd probably bet not. Doesn't
mean they can't, but I think it'll be a little
tough now.
Speaker 1 (25:42):
Those that you gauge, the executives and coaches around the NFL,
Mike Sandel, the Athletic joins us. Did they feel that
Anthony Richardson ever evolves into the type of player that
the Colts and some others around the NFL felt he
could be coming out of Florida.
Speaker 9 (25:58):
I think no, they feel that it won't happen, you know,
you know, I think never's a long time.
Speaker 5 (26:06):
But you would hope that you would see, you know, just.
Speaker 9 (26:13):
That he even knows how to really work at it,
and I don't know that people think that he does.
Speaker 1 (26:23):
How much of that based on the criteria their responses
here had to do with a year ago and the
tap out and then the ultimate benching to to kind
of to help him realize this is the level of
work that you have to do.
Speaker 3 (26:40):
How much did that you think play a role with
those that you gave me.
Speaker 5 (26:44):
I think you played a big role.
Speaker 9 (26:45):
I think you played a big role I think it's emblematic.
If it was something totally inconsistent with the best of
what you think, then you know, maybe we discount a
little bit. But I think people feel like it's it's
part of the package that comes with him not being
ready for this role. And so yeah, I think that that.
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I think that's a tough one. One of the coaches
I quoted, and there's a hey, tough to overcome. If
you can, more power to you. That's sort of a
way of saying, I don't know that you can, right.
Speaker 1 (27:19):
Yeah, Now you look at the rest of the AFC South.
This is just me to you one in your opinion,
I think that I really don't care who the quarterback is.
I think the South is in a position to where
at least somebody could get you at a competitive level.
Do you think the Colts can be that or within
their own division? I mean, obviously with the rest of
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the landscape of the AFC that's going to be difficult.
But can they compete at least in their own division
with either guy?
Speaker 5 (27:47):
Yeah, I think they've shown that about with either guy.
Speaker 9 (27:50):
But I think they need some consistency, a little bit
more consistency at the position and Jones.
Speaker 5 (27:57):
Can probably do that a little bit better. Maybe it's
a combination.
Speaker 9 (28:00):
I think there's unknown in Jacksonville, where Trevor Lawrence has
probably shown us he's not going to be an elite quarterback.
But I feel like, you know, Lawrence, with a little
bit better offense, could be probably better at quarterbacks than
what the Colts are going to have. I think for sure,
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none of their quarterback, but they have a pretty good team.
I think defensively, I think their coach defensively has got
them going.
Speaker 5 (28:27):
So you know, I don't think Tennis. I think Tennessee's
a ways away.
Speaker 9 (28:31):
But yeah, it's a you could pick a tougher division
to be in.
Speaker 1 (28:35):
So Mike Sandel the athletic, he's on the Andy Moro
at a Monte Group potline. Before I'll let you go,
when's the last time, until further notice, this is just
who he is. But when's the last time that you
had somebody that was zep freakishly athletic but also possessed
like the triple Crown of what it takes not to
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make it in the NFL, from decision making to accuracy
or lack thereof, to the lack of availability. I mean,
you get somebody that looks like, you know, just an
incredible athlete that you can't help yourself. But those three
categories will prove every single time, no matter who you are,
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to undermine you. When's the last time we saw somebody
that saw somebody that's comparable to that.
Speaker 5 (29:22):
Yeah, it's overcome that. Yeah, great question.
Speaker 9 (29:25):
It's probably a recent, good research question. But I'm going
to say I don't know that that's happened. I mean,
I think it's been difficult for people that struggle with
accuracy to get better. And we've seen a couple guys
do it. Jalen Hurts, I think Josh Allen to some
extent have become more you know, more accurate pastors over
the course of their careers. But when you're super inaccurate,
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it's it's difficult to fix, and it's really.
Speaker 5 (29:49):
Hard to fix. In the heat of battle.
Speaker 9 (29:51):
You know, you tend to revert, you know, under pressure
to your baseline a little bit, and you know, it's hard.
There's also not a lot of developmental time. There's not
a developmental league, there's not a lot of reps. If
you're a backup, you just sort of get thrown into
the fire at quarterback in this league, and it's difficult.
Speaker 3 (30:12):
I think about this all the time.
Speaker 1 (30:15):
I think, just how athletic you are plays a role
because things up until so many different points or benchmarks
in your career, and a very young career at that.
I mean, hell, but they've been so easy and so easily.
You know, you can overcome things because of your just
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simple raw athleticism.
Speaker 3 (30:40):
And then you get to the point.
Speaker 1 (30:42):
To where that no longer is commonplace as an option,
and you get stuck. And I think that is part
of the reason why we find him stuck in this position.
Speaker 9 (30:56):
Totally agree. Sorry, you got a frog in my throat,
but I totally agree and.
Speaker 1 (31:02):
Can tell him I'm going to going to cough that
out rider, Mike Sando. For me, Ada is all the
anymore auto motive. I can't have anybody choking out on
the show right here, Mike, So I want to make
sure you're okay before you come back on to the
athletic He's on the Andy Moore Auto Motive group potline,
All right now continue?
Speaker 5 (31:19):
Yeah, sorry about that, that's okay. Yeah.
Speaker 9 (31:24):
I don't think he has shown that he has right
now the maturity to work through those to to overcome
that to work through that. So it's almost unfair to
put him in that position. But they got exactly what
a lot of people thought they were getting.
Speaker 5 (31:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (31:42):
Well, and when you look back at that particular draft,
do you blame him at all? I'm just curious because
we go through this conversation all the time of this debate,
all the time, you know, considering you know Stroud and
then you know everybody you know thought about Levis at
that time the group of quarterbacks, do you blame them
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for taking that shot? Or you know, Hindstt's always going
to be twenty twenty, and you go, you shouldn't have
done that. But at that moment, did you agree with
the path that they were taking?
Speaker 5 (32:14):
Mike, No, I didn't. I thought two specketta.
Speaker 9 (32:18):
As a player, now it's easy for me to say
I wasn't sitting there. I think they took I think
they never would have taken them if they weren't in
the predicament they were in at the quarterback position, with
so much going through so many different guys, it's just
not it's a decision born of desperation. So you know,
the next kick in the draft was Witherspoon in the corner,
who's a fantastic player for Seattle. What did the Colts
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go spin on a free agency this year?
Speaker 5 (32:45):
Right?
Speaker 3 (32:46):
Yeah?
Speaker 9 (32:47):
I mean yeah, it could have had a way better player, Yeah,
way better player.
Speaker 5 (32:50):
Now they would have had to have it.
Speaker 9 (32:52):
They were tired of going that route of the Matt
Ryan's and I get it, but you have to still
make us good the best possible decision, and this was
a total gamble.
Speaker 1 (33:03):
I think about there being Mike a couple of different
situations over the years at that position, and everybody always
reverts back you. Ultimately you can go back who did
the decision on Manning because then you had Luck and
we all knew the high level of the elite level
talent of Luck, but you just didn't know that he
really wasn't going to be in it for the long
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haul as it turned out to be. And you know,
the dynamic of two weeks before the start of that
season in bailing and the fashion way she did set
the pace for this. But I also look at, you know,
a non year two for Philip Rivers, when they had
hoped you were going to get at least two years
out of him because year one was fine. You didn't
get a year or two he decided to retire. And
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how about the last two games in the Carson Wentz season,
because you go back to that Christmas Night game where
he looks so good in Era Zona against Phoenix and
they won that game, and you know, everybody was thinking,
you know, they were looking as good as anybody at
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that moment. And then the Raiders at home and then
Jacksonville where everything kind of came undone. Those are two
I think significant situations to where had things worked out differently,
maybe all of what we're going through right now never
would have happened.
Speaker 5 (34:27):
I agree.
Speaker 6 (34:27):
It feels like a slow motion crash. You know, it
feels like what could have been. There's a chain reaction
of what could have been. I mean, I think Chris
Ballard would have said that, you know, I mean everyone knows.
How how it just feels like it's going off the
rails at various times, with the best intentions and.
Speaker 5 (34:44):
With upside to have been better than it was. It's
just unfortunate.
Speaker 1 (34:48):
So Mike Sando has got the article engaging the thoughts
of executives and coaches around the NFL, and as you
would care about here as it pertains to the quarterback
situation with the Colts, Mike Sandel the Athletics on the
Andy Moore Automotive Group potline. I'm just happy we didn't
have to perform the Heimlich on you during this interview.
I feel good about that.
Speaker 5 (35:10):
Yeah, I recovered. I was able to recovery. Maybe there
is hope. Maybe there's hope for the Colts to recover too.
Speaker 1 (35:15):
You know, that's well done, man. I appreciate you more
than you know. Thanks for hopping on here.
Speaker 5 (35:20):
Okay, thank you
On the Andy Moore Automotive Group potline. I'm going to
follow him. He's in for Jake Query tomorrow out at
the Indiana State Fair. He's our good friend Greg Rakestraw.
You're excited, of course I am.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
I always like being in your warm up.
Speaker 3 (00:13):
Fact love that.
Speaker 1 (00:14):
So yeah, we're doing a little horse racing I think tomorrow,
right apparently.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
So I've been a little busy so far this month,
you know, doing NFL games and stuff like that.
Speaker 3 (00:24):
And going to Iceland and things.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
Yes, that too, yes, and obviously calling your show and
being a featured guest. Well, you know, still abroad, right,
I know that I have got like a war and
peace level of notes from John Griffin on the remote tomorrow.
Haven't exactly read them yet, so i'll bone up between now.
Speaker 4 (00:42):
One.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
Well, let me tell you this, you're not exactly in
the club yet until you get a voice message from him,
a voice to text message.
Speaker 3 (00:49):
That's when you know your legit.
Speaker 5 (00:51):
Brother.
Speaker 3 (00:51):
Let me tell.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
You you remember that we worked hand in hand for
a long time in that building, and despite his idiosyncrasies,
you know, Griff's one of my favorite people. So happy
to pinch it for Jake and be you know they
rarely let me out of the cage when I'm substitute teaching.
Speaker 6 (01:07):
No.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
Look, I'm going to enjoy my day at the state Fair.
I'll have deep fried something to celebrate.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
Greg was out there yesterday as well at Colts Camp
for that practice.
Speaker 3 (01:15):
And I'm curious if.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
You've noted this, and maybe I'm the only one, which
is I think fair to say that younger generationally speaking,
everybody is all in on Anthony Richardson and wanting him
to start the older generation like us seems to all
be on the side of Daniel Jones. There seems to
be I think a canyon of divide as far as
the age groups are concerned about. The quarterback of the
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Colts says that something you've noticed at all.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
I'm not sure if it's if I have noticed that
as much. I know that I have gone back and
forth a couple of times. Right now I am probably
leaning more towards Anthony Richardson, and that is not because
of any in particular. I think Jones is done wrong,
but I also don't think he has show Kate enough
or has been so different than Anthony Richardson. My thought
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has always been, if it is a tie. It is
going to be Anthony Richardson, and I kind of think
that's where it is right now. I do think there
are things about ar that have been better. Clearly, let's
pick up on one specific play last Thursday was one
of them. The more I have seen of Daniel Jones,
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the more I've got to see of Gardner Minshew a
couple of years ago, which did lead to nine wins.
I think his running ability is superior to Gardner, So
I think you can be successful. But I frankly have
not seen enough of a difference yet where I think
I would turn the keys over to Daniel Jones. They're
still I think this competition goes for least a week
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and a half longer. I don't think there's a starter
that gets announced next week. I think it's after the
Bengals game that we learn whom the next starting quarterback
of the Colts.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
Is going sid Greg Graysals are they Andy More Automotive
Group podline going to be in the booths coming up
on Saturday night too. We'll talk about that, you and
Rick Venturi and your special guests coming up in just
a minute for that Packer game. But I my thing
is that's why I've always kind of thought quarterback competition whatever.
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I just don't think that there is even close to
a legitimate enough opportunity for Richardson to be overtaken given
the circumstances of the preseason here. I just I don't
think there is. I think that plays as a part
of the dynamic as well. And why, you know, I
haven't always thought that this was going to be I
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guess to not legitimize this quarterback competition maybe completely wrong
by me, but I think all along we've kind of
known who is going to be the starter, and that's
who it's going to be in Richardson in week number one.
I just don't think there's enough opportunities for Daniel Jones
to overtake Richardson here.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
You know, I would disagree with you on that because
having been out there and not for every practice, but
for a lot of them, I can't tell you it
has been legitimately split in terms of time with the ones,
in time with the twos between the two quarterbacks. Uh am.
I like you know, Kevin Bowen, Jake Arthur in the
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old days, George Bremer, et cetera about charting every rep. No,
But but I think they had been given equal opportunity
and similar playbooks. It's not like they're running one set
of plays for one guy in one set of plays
for another. Again, I'm not sure I have seen enough
of Daniel Jones or him do things so drastically differently
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that I'm ready to say all right during at the
football to start the year, and and the other thing
that that, frankly, we have to kind of be ready for.
And Thursday night was a reminder of it that whomever
wins the quarterback competition, the other guy probably ought to
get ready because we haven't had we haven't had any
sort of proof and frankly wouldn't in the preseason in
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terms of the durability of Anthony Richards. And so if
Anthony wins the job for week one, what's to say
that Daniel Jones isn't playing by the end of that game,
or the next game, or the game after that, et cetera.
So I do believe in the legitimacy of the competition.
I just don't think I have seen enough from the
guy now wearing number seventeen, But he's going to overtake
the guy wearing number five.
Speaker 1 (05:21):
It's Greg Greg Straws are they Andy More Automotive Group Hotline.
Normally he's the postgame show host. He's got the duties
in the booth with the Ring Venturi coming up on
Saturday afternoon, and you get a little Colts ownership up
there with you.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
I guess right, correct, So Carly is going to join
us during the third period of the game. So Carli
will join us for an extended conversation during quarter number three.
Speaker 3 (05:45):
Good to see that live on there. Yes too, I
mean I like that.
Speaker 1 (05:48):
It's it's hard enough to move forward without Jim Mersey
because he was just the most significant piece of everything
and really so many other things other than just the
game of football around out here. But I always felt
that the fans really enjoyed, you know, getting getting that
content from ownership, and I'm glad to see that that's
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going to continue.
Speaker 2 (06:10):
That And you nailed it. It is we on that
broadcast are the conduit to the fans and so for
the fan base, and the Lord knows eirypiden Media turns
up that the monitors in the press box for the
third quarter of home game one or home Game two,
or in this case, the only home game of the preseason.
But this is a great chance for the fans to
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hear from ownership herself as to, Hey, this is how
I feel about the franchise, this is where I feel
about the direction, And obviously there's other things from a
personal standpoint, just going hey, you just lost your dad,
how are you doing? How are you coping with this?
Speaker 5 (06:45):
What?
Speaker 2 (06:46):
This is a monumental shift in what you kind of
have to to have the stewardship over the franchise. So honestly,
we could carry this conversation a lot longer than a quarter.
Will be limited by that amount of time, but I
don't think it will be a brief chat. We're planning
on having her for a good chunk of the quarter.
Speaker 1 (07:03):
Greg, has this offensive line performed as well or even
better so far in camp as we thought, given you know,
the the right side of the interior center, right guard
and that particular exodus. Are we pretty happy where things
are with that group right now?
Speaker 2 (07:22):
I'm not sure, And honestly, I'm not sure that we'll
have a full Maybe we'll get more of a full
appreciation for that on Saturday. You know, I don't know
if Quintin Nelson, Braden Smith, Bernard Ryman get a free
pass if Shane say can hold through to what he
said on Sunday and starters will play about a quarter,
I would assume that means everybody along the offensive line,
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and that can give you kind of a better version
of that, because I'm still not sure whether this penetration
in the backfield from the defensive line votes well for
our defensive line or doesn't vote well for our offensive line.
So I'm not sure I've got a quality answer for
you on that yet. I might have a better answer
come late Saturday afternoon.
Speaker 3 (08:02):
All right.
Speaker 1 (08:03):
Part of the issue right now is and at the
beginning of a camp, everybody who's really excited about what
they had witnessed in that secondary, but now it is dinged.
Speaker 3 (08:12):
Up beyond belief.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
But with that in mind, the two major free agent
acquisitions we saw with Ward and Bonham, what's been any
impression so far during camp?
Speaker 2 (08:24):
Well, so far again the fact that this secondary has depth,
And you're right, you know, Jonathan Edwards is getting reps
with the wrong ones. He's an undrafted free agent on
a tu lane crips. Lamons wasn't on the team as
of about ten days ago. Obviously has been around the
last couple of years. He's getting some time with the ones.
You know, Nick Crosbying nicked up a little concerning given
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the fact that he was, you know, so good last
year after really almost kind of taking two years to
learn the league, you know, being so young when he
was drafted out of Maryland. So are you know, are
are we seeing a lot in terms of playmaking and
practice from both you know, Ward and bind them at
this point, not really, but at the same time, again
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so much of even more so on defense because you're
not going to run these exotic schemes in practices in
front of fans in preseason games, and you know, for
other teams to get stuff on film. You know, on defense,
the proof is going to be in the pudding on
September the seventh. But just the fact that they made
that level of investment and you know, now you really
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have again if everybody's healthy, you know, five guys that
have experience playing cornerback for you or elsewhere in the
National Football League or obviously a third round pick, which
that investment won't bear fruit now until next year. Because
of the injury to Justin Walley last Tuesday. I think
it's almost more of a numbers game and a quality
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investment game. Do you feel pretty confident will pay off
and be an improvement over what we had here a
year ago?
Speaker 1 (09:55):
He is Greg Greg Straw before I let you go
on the doorstep of a high school football ca not
too far away, aren't we?
Speaker 2 (10:02):
Yeah, I'll quickly shift gears. I'll have one more NFL
game next Saturday afternoon, but a lot of next week
is going to be paired getting out of the high
school football season. So we're back on TV twenty three
for a seventh consecutive year. Lawrence Central and Lawrence North
is my first game of about sixteen I'll have through
a course of this high school football season.
Speaker 3 (10:23):
Well done. That is on the way.
Speaker 1 (10:25):
Hey, by the way too, for those asking, Because a
storm did sweep through initially about an hour ago, gates
at the State Fairgrounds were temporarily closed. They are back
open now for anybody that would want to know. I
think they were closed by I don't know, fifteen or
so minutes when the storm went through. But they are
back open and they'll be open tomorrow for Greg Ray
(10:46):
Straw noon until three and me three until six at
the Indiana State Fair. A little horse racing for us
tomorrow for six hours.
Speaker 2 (10:54):
Greg, that's good. I'm actually heading down Kee soon as
you speak. I was going to pick up my my
son from school at before, but screw it. I'll just
keep going down to forty second Street. Use the media pass,
get me a funnel cake, and enjoy the rest of
my day. Thank you for the suggestion.
Speaker 3 (11:09):
Well done. I'll see you tomorrow, buddy.
Speaker 2 (11:10):
Thanks Bell.
Speaker 1 (11:13):
On the Andymore Automotive Group Potline Tonight, seven thirty seven
fifteen with Eddie Garrison right here. That will lead into
John Nolan and our guest, the analysts on the Fever
Radio Network. The former Miss Basketball in the stead of Indiana,
the pride of Ben Davis High School, the most decorated
athlete ever at Ben Davis High School. Maria Goss joins us. Now, Hello, Bria,
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how are you wow?
Speaker 7 (11:39):
What a duck stare about?
Speaker 5 (11:40):
Dad?
Speaker 3 (11:41):
I practiced that.
Speaker 1 (11:42):
I practiced that in the mirror for like an hour
before the show.
Speaker 5 (11:47):
Thank you, thank you.
Speaker 3 (11:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (11:51):
So have you ever seen anything like this with a team.
You've been around team sports all your life. With the
amount of injuries the such, you know most injuries are
going to be impactful. But I don't know if you
could have been more impactful than we have seen, especially
with one particular position. Have you ever seen anything like this?
Speaker 7 (12:15):
Not all in one position like this?
Speaker 4 (12:18):
This has been an unfortunate a series of unfortunate you
know events.
Speaker 7 (12:23):
Uh, just you know, one thing right, actually the other
In high.
Speaker 4 (12:26):
School my junior season, we had two starters who went
out with acl tears within forty eight hours of each other.
Speaker 7 (12:32):
So that was about as crazy as the guy. And
then we went on to, you know, win the championship.
So who knows what has in store?
Speaker 4 (12:40):
But unfortunately, these are the circumstances and we just have
to find a way to get things done, and it's
well within our grasps. Sometimes when injuries happen, you know,
teams tend to write to the occasion and become closer and
just kind of use that as a cohesive engagement to
keep on going and playing hard for each other.
Speaker 3 (12:58):
So who knows, you know, are you are you surprised?
Speaker 1 (13:02):
I mean, how impressed are you that the record is
what it is given the injury circumstances of this group.
Speaker 7 (13:09):
I'm not surprised.
Speaker 4 (13:11):
I'm very excited, but I'm not surprised, with simple fact
being we're deep. I think the whole staff that was
associated with the fever did really good job playing a
team together this year, and so you know, it's a
bit of a slow start at the beginning, and then
we of course hit the university, but we have players
that are ready to step into the challenge, and so
that's exactly what's been happening.
Speaker 7 (13:33):
And with the high.
Speaker 4 (13:33):
Level IQ of these players and the multiple positions that
can score out of high volume, like it's just again
not surprising, but I am really excited that we're in
the position that we're at. And it's actually scary because
if we were full of throttle, you know, like what
but the time will we be in if that was
the case.
Speaker 7 (13:53):
So really excited where we're at.
Speaker 2 (13:54):
Though.
Speaker 1 (13:55):
Break offs of the favorite radio network later off the night,
seven thirty is that tip time against seven to fifth
team coverage with Eddie Garrison right here tonight on the
fans See. You knew that the Sydney Colson thing was bad.
I didn't know about the ra McDonald thing until the
latter stages, however, I thought Kelsey and Mitchell kind of
thrown into those circumstances on Saturday night. Not only did
(14:17):
she still high volume score, it as they absolutely need.
She I thought distributed the ball in a fact in
which they needed on that particular night against Chicago. I
was really impressed with her overall game, and you know,
passing the basketball, you know, getting things set up for
everybody else is not always something we describe her as
being facts.
Speaker 3 (14:39):
No, you hit it right on the nail.
Speaker 4 (14:40):
I mean with Sid and airy Bot's going out. You know,
Coach Steph White talked about how it did need to
be a total team effort and everyone needed to kind
of adjust and adjust pretty quickly. The thing about Kelsey Mitchell,
we know that she's been a bucket.
Speaker 7 (14:55):
She's been a bucket since o House State and coming
into the Leak, she's been a bucket.
Speaker 4 (14:59):
Her passing ability has slowly gradually just gotten so much better.
And not to say that she couldn't pass at the
beginning of her career, but you just saw those numbers
going up every single year and then so when she
has breakout games like this, especially when it's highlighted that
the point.
Speaker 7 (15:16):
Guard position is out.
Speaker 4 (15:17):
She's been a point guard for a large majority actually
of her time.
Speaker 7 (15:21):
With the fever, they had.
Speaker 4 (15:22):
Her running to one, so it's not unsimilar territory. But
the thing about Calton Mitchell that really sets her apart
is no matter what's going on with Kelson Mitchell, it
never affects her game. You know, it never with all
the outside ways or the underappreciation or you know her
(15:43):
her father passed right before the season last year. Her
mother was really sick at one point, like there were
so many things going on, but you could never tell
because she's so level headed and she works extremely hard
and she tries.
Speaker 7 (15:54):
To perfect her craft. And so I always try.
Speaker 4 (15:57):
To get flowers to Kelson Mitchell for the simple fact
being she's one of those people where you got to
check on your quiet friends because she's always ready to
check on you knowing didn't will. There's many fires around her,
but she it never affects her job.
Speaker 7 (16:09):
So I can see her continue.
Speaker 4 (16:11):
To excel, especially in this season as she just became the.
Speaker 7 (16:15):
Lead leading scorer.
Speaker 4 (16:16):
She has the most in the league right now and
being a part of MVP conversation, so.
Speaker 7 (16:21):
Huge, huge shout out to her.
Speaker 4 (16:23):
She continues to perfect her game and we're just going
to continue to support her and see what she can
do against Dallas Night.
Speaker 1 (16:30):
How impressive has Natasha Howard been for you this season, man,
because you kind of wonder, I think, Brio, what might
have been if she's not here, because she has added
so much and I mean done it in a consistent fashion.
Speaker 4 (16:44):
Yeah, you know she it's not always you know who
filled up the stats sheet the most, right, she has
the ability to, which is great because just just adds
onto the strength.
Speaker 7 (16:53):
But what she brings as just a vet in this
league and.
Speaker 4 (16:57):
A person who's been a part of you know, championship
style teams and knows what it takes and it's coachable
and it's taking.
Speaker 7 (17:04):
You know, some of these rookies under her wing.
Speaker 4 (17:06):
Like she knows what it takes to get it done.
Speaker 7 (17:09):
And I think she's doing her part day in and
day out. So she's been very impressive.
Speaker 4 (17:13):
I know there was a lot of talk about you know,
the de Wanna Bonners and resigning Kelsey and you know,
Sophie coming to the team and having Howard was kind
of on the bottle of everybody's list, or they just
weren't talking about as much.
Speaker 7 (17:25):
And she's out here.
Speaker 4 (17:26):
You know, being having a being an MVP er that's
gonna come championship is just blowing every by away. She's
so so consistent in what she does. So we're super
excited to have her and we we love the thing
that she can do, not only on the court.
Speaker 7 (17:38):
Without the court as well.
Speaker 1 (17:39):
I'm considering, Bria, you've never been in a slump offensively
in your life, but let's just say maybe maybe just
as the circumstances did aligned for that one period of time,
and you know that's what Lexi Hall has been going through.
Speaker 3 (17:55):
How'd you get yourself out of it?
Speaker 1 (17:56):
And did we see her shoot herself out of that
on Saturday evening?
Speaker 4 (18:02):
So when I was in a slump, I would tend
to overthink, you know, like, okay, with my mechanics, what's
my footwork look like? Am I getting to my spot
and timing it right? And that think that was messing
with me even more, and so the confidence started to waiver.
So when you go through those shooting sumps, you just
have to remember all the work that you have put
(18:23):
in to put yourself in this position.
Speaker 7 (18:25):
Got to kind of hype yourself up in a sense
of you know, I'm gonna lead like I'm going to.
Speaker 4 (18:29):
Look into the mirror, you know, and give you give
you some affirmations or you know, be around your team
who's always supporting you or whatever the case may be.
But you can't let the confidence waiver during those shooting pumps.
And Lexiehole, who went on a very short shooting slump there,
came back and just blew the roof off, didn't she.
She's so fun to watch and just kind of seeing,
(18:51):
you know, how her game has excelled, you know, since
her rookie season has been amazing.
Speaker 7 (18:56):
So she's going to continue to get better.
Speaker 4 (18:58):
And she has great people are around her, that.
Speaker 7 (19:00):
Is that believes in her and pushes her. So she's
gonna be just fine.
Speaker 3 (19:04):
All right.
Speaker 1 (19:04):
So match up tonight against Dallas to getting seven thirty,
the coverage begins a little bit of a stretch running
and hopefully we don't know the circumstances, but hopefully Caitlyn
Clark is back at some point. And we're impressed with
the way of the fever I have still been able
to win at the level of which they have so far.
Speaker 3 (19:23):
Got to keep that up. What do you do against
Dallas later off tonight?
Speaker 4 (19:27):
Well, you know, it's hard to be the team three
times in one season, and it's even harder to be
the team.
Speaker 7 (19:31):
Four times, you know, in each season.
Speaker 4 (19:33):
So it's it's gonna be a difficult matchup, but well
within their ranks, I think rebounding and the rebounding battle
need to be need to be there.
Speaker 7 (19:42):
We got to win that boards battle.
Speaker 4 (19:44):
We need to put a lot of pressure you know,
of course on their guard play, which are you know, phenomenal, and.
Speaker 7 (19:50):
Then they can't really stop it in the post.
Speaker 4 (19:52):
So let's see if we can win the paint battle
as well, and see if we can just have more
points in the paint than they do and and really
honestly finish each quarter.
Speaker 7 (20:02):
So you do those, just keep.
Speaker 4 (20:05):
The main thing, the main team, and keep the game simple,
then this should be a pretty easy win for them.
Speaker 1 (20:10):
Seven eight and twenty four Dallas, it has been a
struggle eighteen and fourteen as the Indiana fever as they
continue to hang in and honesty Simms player wise, what
do you think about that, you know, hardship, hardship acquisition
that they went out and put together for the team
(20:31):
for the obvious reasons of the injury concerns.
Speaker 4 (20:34):
Yeah, she's going to be a good addition, you know
as well.
Speaker 7 (20:36):
She's been around the league for years.
Speaker 4 (20:39):
I had the pleasure of playing against her in college.
Speaker 7 (20:42):
We beat him once. Actually it should beat me twice.
Speaker 4 (20:45):
So we played once once he was a Prittey Griner
and we got blown out.
Speaker 7 (20:49):
And then we played them. It was a specialty game.
Speaker 4 (20:53):
Our men's team and their men's team played right after,
so that was funny. It was a four overtime game,
so it was It was extremely tiring. But the great
and the enthusiasm and the passion that she plays with
plays right into what the Fever team need. She's a
downhill attack type of players. She knows how to find people,
especially in transition. But she is greedy and spicy and tough,
(21:18):
and so that's the type of things that we need
from a point guard. And like I said, it fits
in so well with the team as.
Speaker 7 (21:23):
We have so many players just like that. So I'm
really really excited to see that.
Speaker 4 (21:27):
I know there will be some growing pains, Okay, So
it's not like if they're going to have it all
together tonight. We're gonna see some flashes of some really
good basketball. Then we might see them flashes of some
not to grow great basketball. But that's just a part
of the process as we you know, continue to play
throughout the season.
Speaker 7 (21:41):
But give them time.
Speaker 4 (21:42):
I think it's going to be a really really beneficial
for us.
Speaker 3 (21:46):
That is Bria Goss.
Speaker 1 (21:47):
You can hear our, John Nolan and Eddie Garrison a
part of the Fever broadcast later on tonight seven fifteen
pregame covering seven thirty Tip Time at the field House
versus Dallas and Bris on the andy More Automotive Group podline.
Always a player. We shall do it again soon. Have
a great broadcast to Nybria.
Speaker 8 (22:03):
Yeah, thanks so much for having me meantime of the
andy More Automotive Group potline from the Athletic has an.
Speaker 1 (22:13):
Interesting story regarding the opinions of coaches and executives in
the NFL on certain players, including Colts quarterbacks. Mike Sando
joins us now on the show. Hello, Mike, how are
you good?
Speaker 3 (22:29):
All right?
Speaker 1 (22:30):
Are there going to be many surprised Colts fans on
the reactions of the quotes you received from some of
these executives and the coaches about the Colts quarterback situation.
Speaker 5 (22:43):
I don't think so.
Speaker 9 (22:43):
I mean, everyone knows what the situation is, uh, and
you know it's a tough situation, right, I mean they
had really high hopes, took a flyer on you know,
a very raw prospect in Anthony.
Speaker 5 (22:56):
Richardson, and it has been tough sailing.
Speaker 9 (22:57):
So you know that's reflected in the evaluation, and I
think there's you know, you wouldn't expect people to be
super optimistic.
Speaker 1 (23:07):
So it was overwhelming that most that you talked to
felt that Daniel Jones will be the week one starter.
Speaker 9 (23:18):
Yes, he has, you know, shown a basic understanding of
running an offense and how to practice, how.
Speaker 5 (23:27):
To carry himself.
Speaker 9 (23:31):
Pal that those are areas where Anthony Richardson is green,
and so it would be more likely Daniel Jones would
be ready to give the Colts a better chance to
win week to week, even though Anthony Richardson's best plays
will be ten times better than the best plays of
(23:54):
Daniel Jones.
Speaker 1 (23:55):
Mike Sandral the Athletic Talk CINNFL covers the NFL. His
late articles we're talking about right now is on the
Andy Moore Automotive Group hotline. So you yourself, do you
feel and maybe you can add into some of the
thoughts of those that you gauged on this too that
they feel things could be different for Daniel Jones with
(24:16):
a change of landscape and a change of personnel from
where he was. I initially obviously he had that stop
over in Minnesota. But the change in personnel from the
Giants to what the Cults presently have.
Speaker 5 (24:29):
I agree with that.
Speaker 9 (24:30):
I think New York's a very difficult place for anybody
in a leadership role, and it is not for everybody.
You know, and if you look at you know, just
with the Jets and Sam Darnold and Gino Smith are
two guys that have gone on to you know, we'll
see if Daniel, if Darnald can sustain it, but looked
pretty good last year and then Geno Smith's kind of
(24:50):
been reborn right now. That doesn't just happen. You have
to be able to stick with it yourself and keep
working at it. But I think Daniel Jones odds of uh,
you know, playing better probably go up with the Colts
relatives to the Giants. An easier place. You know, just
(25:10):
about every place is an easier place in New York.
Speaker 1 (25:13):
Do you think this this Colts team can be a
playoff team with Daniel Jones at quarterback.
Speaker 9 (25:21):
I think that's unlikely in the AFC, with you know,
probably the you know, it's with CD Shroud in the division,
and I know they've played them tough, but I think
it's probably unlikely. If I had to bet everything I have,
i'd make it or not, I'd probably bet not. Doesn't
mean they can't, but I think it'll be a little
tough now.
Speaker 1 (25:42):
Those that you gauge, the executives and coaches around the NFL,
Mike Sandel, the Athletic joins us. Did they feel that
Anthony Richardson ever evolves into the type of player that
the Colts and some others around the NFL felt he
could be coming out of Florida.
Speaker 9 (25:58):
I think no, they feel that it won't happen, you know,
you know, I think never's a long time.
Speaker 5 (26:06):
But you would hope that you would see, you know, just.
Speaker 9 (26:13):
That he even knows how to really work at it,
and I don't know that people think that he does.
Speaker 1 (26:23):
How much of that based on the criteria their responses
here had to do with a year ago and the
tap out and then the ultimate benching to to kind
of to help him realize this is the level of
work that you have to do.
Speaker 3 (26:40):
How much did that you think play a role with
those that you gave me.
Speaker 5 (26:44):
I think you played a big role.
Speaker 9 (26:45):
I think you played a big role I think it's emblematic.
If it was something totally inconsistent with the best of
what you think, then you know, maybe we discount a
little bit. But I think people feel like it's it's
part of the package that comes with him not being
ready for this role. And so yeah, I think that that.
(27:07):
I think that's a tough one. One of the coaches
I quoted, and there's a hey, tough to overcome. If
you can, more power to you. That's sort of a
way of saying, I don't know that you can, right.
Speaker 1 (27:19):
Yeah, Now you look at the rest of the AFC South.
This is just me to you one in your opinion,
I think that I really don't care who the quarterback is.
I think the South is in a position to where
at least somebody could get you at a competitive level.
Do you think the Colts can be that or within
their own division? I mean, obviously with the rest of
(27:41):
the landscape of the AFC that's going to be difficult.
But can they compete at least in their own division
with either guy?
Speaker 5 (27:47):
Yeah, I think they've shown that about with either guy.
Speaker 9 (27:50):
But I think they need some consistency, a little bit
more consistency at the position and Jones.
Speaker 5 (27:57):
Can probably do that a little bit better. Maybe it's
a combination.
Speaker 9 (28:00):
I think there's unknown in Jacksonville, where Trevor Lawrence has
probably shown us he's not going to be an elite quarterback.
But I feel like, you know, Lawrence, with a little
bit better offense, could be probably better at quarterbacks than
what the Colts are going to have. I think for sure,
(28:20):
none of their quarterback, but they have a pretty good team.
I think defensively, I think their coach defensively has got
them going.
Speaker 5 (28:27):
So you know, I don't think Tennis. I think Tennessee's
a ways away.
Speaker 9 (28:31):
But yeah, it's a you could pick a tougher division
to be in.
Speaker 1 (28:35):
So Mike Sandel the athletic, he's on the Andy Moro
at a Monte Group potline. Before I'll let you go,
when's the last time, until further notice, this is just
who he is. But when's the last time that you
had somebody that was zep freakishly athletic but also possessed
like the triple Crown of what it takes not to
(28:56):
make it in the NFL, from decision making to accuracy
or lack thereof, to the lack of availability. I mean,
you get somebody that looks like, you know, just an
incredible athlete that you can't help yourself. But those three
categories will prove every single time, no matter who you are,
(29:17):
to undermine you. When's the last time we saw somebody
that saw somebody that's comparable to that.
Speaker 5 (29:22):
Yeah, it's overcome that. Yeah, great question.
Speaker 9 (29:25):
It's probably a recent, good research question. But I'm going
to say I don't know that that's happened. I mean,
I think it's been difficult for people that struggle with
accuracy to get better. And we've seen a couple guys
do it. Jalen Hurts, I think Josh Allen to some
extent have become more you know, more accurate pastors over
the course of their careers. But when you're super inaccurate,
(29:47):
it's it's difficult to fix, and it's really.
Speaker 5 (29:49):
Hard to fix. In the heat of battle.
Speaker 9 (29:51):
You know, you tend to revert, you know, under pressure
to your baseline a little bit, and you know, it's hard.
There's also not a lot of developmental time. There's not
a developmental league, there's not a lot of reps. If
you're a backup, you just sort of get thrown into
the fire at quarterback in this league, and it's difficult.
Speaker 3 (30:12):
I think about this all the time.
Speaker 1 (30:15):
I think, just how athletic you are plays a role
because things up until so many different points or benchmarks
in your career, and a very young career at that.
I mean, hell, but they've been so easy and so easily.
You know, you can overcome things because of your just
(30:38):
simple raw athleticism.
Speaker 3 (30:40):
And then you get to the point.
Speaker 1 (30:42):
To where that no longer is commonplace as an option,
and you get stuck. And I think that is part
of the reason why we find him stuck in this position.
Speaker 9 (30:56):
Totally agree. Sorry, you got a frog in my throat,
but I totally agree and.
Speaker 1 (31:02):
Can tell him I'm going to going to cough that
out rider, Mike Sando. For me, Ada is all the
anymore auto motive. I can't have anybody choking out on
the show right here, Mike, So I want to make
sure you're okay before you come back on to the
athletic He's on the Andy Moore Auto Motive group potline,
All right now continue?
Speaker 5 (31:19):
Yeah, sorry about that, that's okay. Yeah.
Speaker 9 (31:24):
I don't think he has shown that he has right
now the maturity to work through those to to overcome
that to work through that. So it's almost unfair to
put him in that position. But they got exactly what
a lot of people thought they were getting.
Speaker 5 (31:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (31:42):
Well, and when you look back at that particular draft,
do you blame him at all? I'm just curious because
we go through this conversation all the time of this debate,
all the time, you know, considering you know Stroud and
then you know everybody you know thought about Levis at
that time the group of quarterbacks, do you blame them
(32:03):
for taking that shot? Or you know, Hindstt's always going
to be twenty twenty, and you go, you shouldn't have
done that. But at that moment, did you agree with
the path that they were taking?
Speaker 5 (32:14):
Mike, No, I didn't. I thought two specketta.
Speaker 9 (32:18):
As a player, now it's easy for me to say
I wasn't sitting there. I think they took I think
they never would have taken them if they weren't in
the predicament they were in at the quarterback position, with
so much going through so many different guys, it's just
not it's a decision born of desperation. So you know,
the next kick in the draft was Witherspoon in the corner,
who's a fantastic player for Seattle. What did the Colts
(32:42):
go spin on a free agency this year?
Speaker 5 (32:45):
Right?
Speaker 3 (32:46):
Yeah?
Speaker 9 (32:47):
I mean yeah, it could have had a way better player, Yeah,
way better player.
Speaker 5 (32:50):
Now they would have had to have it.
Speaker 9 (32:52):
They were tired of going that route of the Matt
Ryan's and I get it, but you have to still
make us good the best possible decision, and this was
a total gamble.
Speaker 1 (33:03):
I think about there being Mike a couple of different
situations over the years at that position, and everybody always
reverts back you. Ultimately you can go back who did
the decision on Manning because then you had Luck and
we all knew the high level of the elite level
talent of Luck, but you just didn't know that he
really wasn't going to be in it for the long
(33:25):
haul as it turned out to be. And you know,
the dynamic of two weeks before the start of that
season in bailing and the fashion way she did set
the pace for this. But I also look at, you know,
a non year two for Philip Rivers, when they had
hoped you were going to get at least two years
out of him because year one was fine. You didn't
get a year or two he decided to retire. And
(33:48):
how about the last two games in the Carson Wentz season,
because you go back to that Christmas Night game where
he looks so good in Era Zona against Phoenix and
they won that game, and you know, everybody was thinking,
you know, they were looking as good as anybody at
(34:08):
that moment. And then the Raiders at home and then
Jacksonville where everything kind of came undone. Those are two
I think significant situations to where had things worked out differently,
maybe all of what we're going through right now never
would have happened.
Speaker 5 (34:27):
I agree.
Speaker 6 (34:27):
It feels like a slow motion crash. You know, it
feels like what could have been. There's a chain reaction
of what could have been. I mean, I think Chris
Ballard would have said that, you know, I mean everyone knows.
How how it just feels like it's going off the
rails at various times, with the best intentions and.
Speaker 5 (34:44):
With upside to have been better than it was. It's
just unfortunate.
Speaker 1 (34:48):
So Mike Sando has got the article engaging the thoughts
of executives and coaches around the NFL, and as you
would care about here as it pertains to the quarterback
situation with the Colts, Mike Sandel the Athletics on the
Andy Moore Automotive Group potline. I'm just happy we didn't
have to perform the Heimlich on you during this interview.
I feel good about that.
Speaker 5 (35:10):
Yeah, I recovered. I was able to recovery. Maybe there
is hope. Maybe there's hope for the Colts to recover too.
Speaker 1 (35:15):
You know, that's well done, man. I appreciate you more
than you know. Thanks for hopping on here.
Speaker 5 (35:20):
Okay, thank you
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