August 19, 2025 • 32 mins
00:00 - 8:02 - Greg Rakestraw from the ISC Sports Network joins the show! Greg and JMV debate the Colts starting quarterback decision, what that means for Anthony Richardson in Indy, and more!
8:03 - 31:59 - Joel A Erickson of the IndyStar joins the show to provide more reaction to the Colts QB decision. Joel and JMV talk about how we got to this point, what the future holds for Richardson in Indy, how long of a leash they’ll give Jones, and more!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
It's like our next guest on the Andy Morrill Automotive
(00:02):
Group pile line. He's got a busy week. Stuff going
on today, stuff going on Friday. Greg Rakestraw joins us
Daniel Jones. Was that a bold decision by Shane Styke,
and in particular, I can never get this guy the
way that he needed to be, So let's go get
this guy that's twenty games under five hundred on his
career to start.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
I would say it was not the decision I thought
they would make. I'm not sure it's the wrong decision.
It's just I thought they would and you heard me
say it. I didn't think there was much that separated
the two from what I saw during training camp in
terms of results of the game. Obviously Shane Stike and
saw things differently. He's gonna go with Daniel Jones in
week number one.
Speaker 1 (00:39):
Greg Rerakestraw, Yes, it's funny. What do you see? What
did you see out there? You were out there all
the time, in Daniel Jones, because I'm right there with you,
I didn't see much of a difference. I thought when
one guy sucked, the other guy sucked, and one guy
was good, the other guy was good. That's what I saw.
Speaker 2 (00:59):
The thing that we had said throughout the course of
this is that I think the floor is higher with
Daniel Jones, the ceiling is higher with Anthony Richardson. I
did think that we had seen some strides from Anthony,
there were still, you know, mistakes that were made in
terms of accuracy. I thought Anthony looked a lot more
like the quarterback than in a much smaller sample side
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his rookie year through a sixty percent kind of completion
or eight compared to the one that was sub fifty,
which is a do not pass go scenario from last year.
You know, if if there was an area in which
Joanes struggled, you know, it was the deep ball, I guess.
And hearing kind of you talk in the opening this
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segment is kind of putting thoughts together on this. You know,
there are times in camp the last few days when
I saw what Daniel Jones was doing and thought, all right,
this has got something to the Gardner Minshew effects. Yeah,
and Minshew led you to nine wins and it could
have been ten. And and Jones brings something of the
Anthony and Richardson like ability to run along with maybe
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more of the accuracy that minshe brought. And again, I
think it's just you know, confirmation from the perspective of shame,
perspective of Chris and and everybody involved that you know,
you need to win now and again, winning for this
group I think is ten wins in a playoff spot,
and maybe they feel that Daniel Jones is the guy
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that can best deliver that. Obviously, everybody has higher goals
than that from a long term perspective, but it is
you need to win now, and that's the why I
think the Colts made this move they announced today.
Speaker 1 (02:37):
I think I know who the biggest loser is in
all this right now. However, how far off the pace
might a guy with the skill set like Alec pierceby
considering what you just uttered with the lack of a
deep ball from Daniel Jones, which clearly is that of
a Pierce Forte right.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
It's one of the things though, that you know you've
heard people with the Colts talk about, is they feel
that Pierce is not just a one trick pony. He
is not as a deep ball threat. Obviously we haven't
seen much of him during training camp because it got
hurt in course of the last week and didn't play
when he was healthy in terms of the first game.
But let's see, he's one of the things with this group.
I think there are some pretty easy to define skill sets.
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You know, Michael Pittman Junior is gonna be your first
down guy, your physical receiver that moves to change Josh
downs is your space guy as long as he's healthy
at Amsterring. You know, going into week number one, if
pierces the deep threat, okay, well, now what else does
he do because obviously you've been got kind of that
defined role in terms of the tight ends where you know,
you've got Warren and Mallary to the pass catchers and
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ogle Tree and Moiley Cox that are kind of the
more of the blocking guys. So well, Alec Pierce lead
the league by five yards in terms of yards per
catch the way he did last year. No, but you
know what, he cut several paths like that from Joe
Flacco too, So maybe we're we're under selling that all
into the game. In terms of the offense going forward.
Speaker 1 (04:02):
Greg Grayshaw's on the Andy Moro Auto Motor group pileline
this team, at least from what has been explained to
me from those that spent every day at camp, saw
too many pre snap penalties. I think that's been brought up.
Is that kind of what we see in the blame
game here on that of Richardson? Is that what we
see making sure you stay away from those particular situations.
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Is that the dialogue that Stiking brought up regarding getting
guys in the right spots and making sure they're in
the right play. And is that because we did see,
at least from what people had suggested out in Westfield,
too many pre snap penalties along that line during camp.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
You know, I'm not sure if I saw an overabundance
of pre snat penalties in terms of camp. Obviously, there
is the obvious Mits Blitz pick up, you know, from
the first preseason game in Baltimore that stands out. And
the one thing I would say is this, the Colts
are one of the least penalized teams of the National
Football League last year. And again that was done with
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primarily exclusively, but primarily Anthony Rison a quarterback. So clearly
there is the feeling that the offense, the operation runs
smoother with Daniel Jones as the quarterback, and that again
there are less mistakes with Daniel Jones at the quarterback.
So whatever those mistakes might be, that's clearly what in
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part was brought up today Greg.
Speaker 1 (05:28):
We mentioned this being an indictment on Chris Ballard. There
are many, but I'm curious on Shane Steikn for going
into year three and not being able to even come close. Literally,
you're getting a guy that's twenty games under five hundred
and choosing him as the starter over the guy you know.
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One of the reasons why you brought him in, one
of the reasons why you drafted him as well is
you put the two and two together and you're going
to make a little bit of magic. And now he's
the backup quarterback in year number three. How big of
a failure is that for stiking.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
I think everybody is on the same timeline, and I
think it goes back to this, everybody is in win
now mode, and again, I don't think there are these
massive expectations that is simply to win more than you
have and that has been nine games and eight games
over the course of the last two years when you've
had this entire group together. And so with the moves
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that were made in the off season to add major
defensive pieces in bying them and Ward to add a
weapon that you needed at the tight end position in
Tyler Warren. This is again to me and I have
set this all off season long. It is playoffs or bust.
You know, clearly the family is very you know, is
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aware of the fact that there's not been a division
championship here now in eleven years. Because of how good
I think the Houston Texans might be. I'm not sure
that is going to happen. But you can still be
a playoff team and not win your division. And I
think that everything in terms of judgment is going to
be what the what the record is going to be
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at the end of this season.
Speaker 1 (07:08):
Now, right, Greg? One final thing, and by the way,
if you're on hold two, three, nine, ten seventy, I'll
get to you coming up in a minute. But it
is week one of the high school football schedule on
Friday night. Give that bad boy some love on a
day with a lot of news. Talk it up quickly
before I'll let you go.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
Laurence Central and Lawrence North is the game that I
will have. We at IC will have Rebuff and North
Central will also have Center Grove and Warren. Central at
is number three versus number six, and again those two
have a very good chance of seeing each other again
in the regional round of the tournament. So yes, we
are three days now removed from the start of the
high school football season, and I will see you tomorrow
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afternoon at Carroll Stadium.
Speaker 1 (07:48):
Yes, I'll be over there too, probably with more dialogue
similar to this.
Speaker 2 (07:53):
How about, but we will put you in a suite
we were close to alcohol. That'll make a little bit.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
I like that, buddy, Thank you very much.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
Greg, see you about.
Speaker 1 (08:01):
And the Andy Moore Automotive Group hotline From the Indianapolis Star,
it is Joel a. Ericson who joins us. So your
belief going in compared to what you witnessed earlier today
from Shane Steyle?
Speaker 3 (08:16):
You know?
Speaker 1 (08:17):
Then moving forward to weight number one, What is it?
What do you think the feeling is around that locker
room about this decision at quarterback?
Speaker 3 (08:25):
I think from from talking to some of the players
that there's probably uh it sounds like I think make
Michael Pittman put it best that you're they're in a
spot where you you feel badly for Anthony, you feel
good for Daniel.
Speaker 4 (08:41):
You don't know how to necessarily reconcile those two things
together and.
Speaker 3 (08:46):
In a way that that makes a good package.
Speaker 4 (08:50):
But also it does sound like Daniel Jones has done
a good job of integrating himself into that locker room
over the over the past four months or five months
since he's been.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
Signed, Joey Erickson of The Star talking about Daniel Jones
being the starter, and then Anthony richardson his future. He's
on the Andymore Automotive Group hotline. So as far as
as Jones is concerned, compare that to Richardson. Listen, I'm
not there as much as you are, so I know
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that you would have a great deal of information. Did
you see a wide gap from what you witnessed a
training camp between the two quarterbacks.
Speaker 3 (09:29):
I think that the gap that I saw would probably
be made up for somewhat with Richardson big plays. But
I did have I did have Jones at close to
ten percent better completion rate. He doesn't go the ball
down the field as much. He had fewer I would
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say this, he had fewer periods of practice where he
kind of didn't have a lot of completions at all.
There was more of that from Richardson. I think listening
to shame psichin though I think that a lot of
this stuff is maybe stuff that would be tougher for
us to see.
Speaker 5 (10:09):
That is the ball going to the right spot, you know,
is the cadence right behind the line of scrimmage and
helping the offensive line get off the ball.
Speaker 3 (10:20):
Is it all starts that kind of thing. Is he
making all of the right checks at the line? The
thing about NFL football is that in the current era,
it is all about figuring out what your opponent does,
how to attack them, and how to counter whatever they
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come up with as a counter to your attack. And
because of that, the quarterback's job is you have to
be really on top of all of that stuff. And
it sounds like Jones, like Psychen decided that Jones was
more ready to do all of that.
Speaker 1 (10:54):
Let's Joey Erickson at the start talking about the Colt
quarterback decision. Today, He's kind of join us on the
Anymore Automotive Group hotline. So, even though you say all
the right things, again, things that have to be said,
considering the circumstances, do you believe that Anthony Richardson's career
is over here outside of injury?
Speaker 3 (11:18):
It's yeah, I think it's gonna be really tough for
him to come back. It's you just I was trying
the other day to come up with an example of
another player who've been in this situation where they've been
benched once brought back something like that. I don't know
if you can. And that's kind of the theme of
Richardson's career is that the cults have kind of always
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been hoping for something beyond like where something that didn't
have a lot of precedent in terms of his lack
of experience coming out of college some of the other stuff,
and this just adds another layer on it. We're talking Mike,
for him to make it with the colds outside of injury,
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it's gonna have to be something that's never happened for
an NFL history.
Speaker 1 (12:12):
Yeah, that's that's what I think too, And Joel, I
don't think it's too off target to suggest this is
one of the biggest bus selections in the history of
the league right now? Would you agree?
Speaker 3 (12:32):
That's a great question. There have been enough of them,
especially at the quarterback position, that there's probably a lot.
But yeah, you can't hit on a number four pick.
Speaker 1 (12:43):
Let's say, hey, Joel, I'm gonna let you play off
of this. JaMarcus Russell, Kelly Smith and I don't know
when a lot of these guys are drafted, but I
know that they're described as bust you know, Gosh, I can't.
Those are the two that come off the top of
my head right now. I mean it's I know, we
live in the moment. We live in the moment, Joe,
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I do realize that too, But I think you would
at least have to categorize this as one of the
biggest busts of all time considering what has been given
back because we've seen virtually nothing.
Speaker 3 (13:17):
Yeah, I mean you throw Tim Couch to be another
high pick, Ryan leaf car be another high pick. Those guys, yeah,
if he if he never gets another another real shot
starting his career, would fall in somewhere in that mix
of the guys you just mentioned.
Speaker 1 (13:35):
I know that Daniel Jones can move. Wouldn't you think
you ever see a time where they would slut Anthony
Richardson in there in a short yard in situation near
the goal.
Speaker 3 (13:45):
Uh? That's I mean, that's interesting. It's interesting because I
don't Dina Jones can Dina Jones has has good enough
speed to make some plays with his legs. He doesn't
have Richidson's power. We've got seen in the past that
Richardson's power as a runner, it's very very effective down
there on the goal line. And so yeah, I think
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that that's that's maybe a possibility. Now he's your backup
quarterback too, And do you want to get into a
situation where it's Daniel Jones are riding winner as the
emergency quarterback. Maybe you don't do it because of that,
you know. I think like when the Saints started doing
this with Cheatsom Hill, they had a backup to Drew
Brees and then Takesom Hill is doing his other stuff.
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So I don't know if you see it often, but
I think that you know, second is shown in the
path that they'd be willing to do it, maybe once
or twice is up.
Speaker 1 (14:36):
The playbook still as open for Jones as it might
be for Richardson. How do the two play books and
play calls compare with the quarterbacks? And then how how
does that have an impact I guess on his teammates offensively?
Speaker 3 (14:51):
I think in some ways, I think in some ways
the playbook is more open with Jones not maybe not
from a rushing standpoint, I think it's probably let's open
in terms of the different like, I don't know that
you can run the quarterback straight up the middle as
much with Jones as you could with Richardson, although you
know that it'd be fair to question whether or not
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that was the right thing to do with Richard didn't
given the injury history. But I don't think you can
do as much of that. I do think in the
passing game though, some of the stuff that Psyched is
talking about, with the operation, the you know, knowing the offense,
all of that stuff, it allows them to do a
little bit more game planning probably week to week would
be my guest. And now the flip side of that,
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you also probably lose some downfield ball that Alec Pierce
is probably you know, not getting as many as many
moonshots down the field. So I think from an actual
place called standpoint, it probably opens the playbook and that
they can run a bunch of different stuff. I think
in terms of you know, is it a deep ball,
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is it that kind of stuff, I think there's some
restrictions there that you're not going to necessarily see as much.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
Is Joel of the Star talking Colts on the Andy
Moore on a Motive Group hotline. I know you're as
curious about this as I am, but I guess I
would have to go with your opinion. Here. We know
how Shane Steikin felt because he ultimately made the decision.
How do you think Chris Ballard, or maybe even better yet,
carly Ers Gordon felt about that final decision.
Speaker 3 (16:23):
Well, carl Erse Gordon did say, you know the other
day on on the broadcast, that this was going to
be shamee Psyken's decision, you know, and she has she
has so far if I remember correctly, she has said
that it is it is for her a wait and
see approach this season. So I would I would see
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I would based off of what she said. I think
you know she she made it was it was psyched.
I think from a from a Chris Ballard standpoint, you know, uh,
Chris is definitely going to be He's gonna push back.
Got any narrative that Richardson's career has done. He's not gonna.
He's not gonna want to do that. He's not gonna
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want to close the door on that.
Speaker 6 (17:07):
I I think that the fact that he was willing
to say in his initial press conference that they needed
to go out and get real competition when this offseason first.
Speaker 3 (17:17):
Started back in January, because they needed to go out
and get real competition for Daniels or Anthony Richardson, and
that he was also the one to say it would
be an open competition to combine. I would say that
he was probably prepared for this eventuality based on the
way they handled the off season.
Speaker 1 (17:36):
So Joel ay Erickson of the Stars kind of enough
to join us. He's on the Andy Moore auto Motive
group plotline. Daniel Jones is the quarterback. Now, how much
disappointment do you think Shane has considering he's supposed to
be this huge offensive guy and being able to deal
with quarterbacks. And this is as I think you and
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I both agree, this is the end of result with
Anthony Richardson going into year three. He can't beat out
a guy that's twenty sticking games under five hundred in
his NFL career. Is that a failure for Shane Steichen
because I believe it to be.
Speaker 3 (18:13):
Well, you know, Shane was one of the driving forces
in drafting Richardson and believing that they could they could
develop him into that kind of player, and yeah, to
not have it happen, I think there's got to be
some disappointment. Uh there. You know, I wonder you wonder
if from a development standpoint, if if Stichen's strength is
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more along the lines of he can design an offense
that fits the quarterback. He can, you know, he'll design
something to think that that that they can run, that
will take advantage of their strengths, that kind of thing.
But in terms of the the day to day stuff
that we've heard, the operation of the huddle, all that stuff,
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I wonder if he's if he's more of a he
can design the offense, but he is he the hands
on type of quarterback developer. He has dustin hurtbreat and
zealand hurt. And this is part of the Richardson decision
to draft Richardson. The two guys that he worked with before,
those guys were were very experienced, like all of that stuff,
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a very large program, so all of that stuff they
kind of understood intrinsically from their careers before. You know,
Richardson was a different case, and that he was kind
of a raw lump of clay that didn't have that
background in all the stuff He's supposed to do so.
Speaker 1 (19:36):
I know the circumstances a year ago Joe were different,
but we also heard Regardi Joe Flacco that it was
going to be the rest of the year. Do you
think that that'd be maybe a change in judgment if
things don't work out, because listen, you know me to
be mister must win guy. There's no bigger must win.
And I also will tell you in week number one,
Joel the bar is set solo. Considering what week one
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is represented for this organization for so many years now,
and you get the Dolphins where the secondary is absolutely
right to be torn apart. There could not be a
better moment for Daniel Jones to have at least a
one week resurrection in week number one. I mean, really
they should. But you look at it in terms of
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early in the season. What impact do you think he
will have against teams like the Dolphins and the Broncos
in weeks one and two.
Speaker 3 (20:30):
Well, I think the biggest thing is that it's a different,
or at least it should be like the hope, and
I think for San Psyche and making this move that
the hope is that he's it's a different offense from
a It actually moves the chains and holds onto the ball.
They can move the ball down the field in a
way that's not just explosive plays. The Dolphins, I'm with you,
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that team has lost so much defensive talent over the
last couple of years. That's a nice one ending spot
I think for a new quarterback. The Broncos are not.
The Broncos are the type of defense that he's going
to have to prove that all of this stuff that
Psyche is saying about the operation and everything like that
is true, because the Broncos are going to test you
from a blitz standpoint. They're gonna test you from a
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bunch of different coverages. You know. That's That's the kind
of defense that I think is the reason that that
psychin felt like he had to make the move to
Jones this year.
Speaker 1 (21:29):
Joel A. Erickson is with us. It is something. Did
you expect this? And I guess furthermore, did you think
that going all the way back when they brought Daniel
Jones in? Did they legitimately think that he would ultimately
be named the starter for week number one? Did they
buy what they were even trying to sell to everybody
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back then? In your estimation I.
Speaker 3 (21:52):
Think that they believe that he could be kissed. I
would say that from from my standpoint, I've kind of
gone back and forth couple of weeks. Kind of frustrated
me so on my part. I in fact, I even
think I said on UH on our on our joint station.
I think I said I thought it was gonna be Richardson,
like I did say that after the game, and then
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I went back and listened to Shane second Uh for
the second time. You know, you do the press conference
and then you go to this other stuff and you
listen to it and type it out, and in typing
it out, I was thinking to myself, I was like,
he's talking about Daniel Jones, and I probably shouldn't have
said what I just said on TV. So I've kind
of gone back and forth on it. I think the
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hardest part with this, and the part that's that makes
it difficult, I think for for fans and for everybody
to kind of understand, is is that this decision is made.
It sounds like primarily on stuff that is not easy
for us to see.
Speaker 7 (22:50):
Sure, it's not easy for h Ed Dodd said this
last week. It's not even always easy for a front
office person to know that the right audible was made,
or that the ball went into the right spot, or.
Speaker 3 (23:03):
That their cadence was right and stuff like that. So
I think that's the hardest part for us, is that
this is stuff that's not easy for us to see.
Even if you are out of practice and watching it
every day. You know you can have a short completion
in practice, or a completion in practice that it goes
down as a completion in the book, but the ball
didn't go to where it was supposed to, or there
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was a blitzer who would have sacked him if it
wasn't Red Jerseys. I think that's the hardest part is
some part of the decision is stuff that we could
not easily see.
Speaker 1 (23:34):
I think we'd all understand maybe so far. The Richardson
signature moment was the tapping on the helmet of a
year ago. But I also think I don't know if
you do or not. That's why I'm asking when he
got a job ode in that first preseason game, was
that a defining moment as to why do you think
at least things, as you had mentioned earlier, we can't see.
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But this is something we saw when they put his
pinky on side way. Was that a defining moment ultimately
that helped lead to this decision? You think?
Speaker 3 (24:05):
I think it was. I think it was a sign post. Yeah.
I think it was a sign post in terms of,
you know, he that was his rusher, that was his rusher.
He was hot on that side. His job was to
make the place that the rusher doesn't get to him,
and he didn't make it. And I think that that's
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that's a sign post. That was kind of an alert
that maybe there was some that some of this stuff
that had been a problem for him in the past
was still a problem or going to be a problem.
Speaker 1 (24:37):
I know historically guys don't play, but preseasons are a
little bit different now than they used to be. In
closing here, Joel, but if you're talking about a guy
that needs more and needs to show more yet and
Richardson will not participate in that final preseason game, is
that more of what you said earlier. He's the backup
quarterback and you can't put him out there to get
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him injured. Or is it what happens if the guy
goes out there and looks absolutely outstanding and that screws
up everything here? Is there a dynamic at work on
either way in that final preseason game.
Speaker 3 (25:10):
I think the biggest thing is just how many guys
left injury on Saturday. My my initial and understanding was
that they were going to play some of their guys
a little bit more, you know, a little bit more
in that third preseason game. I think they just and
there's actually it's there's still a fairly lengthy list of
people out at practice. I think that just the sheer
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numbers of players who are dealing with or have dealt
with something here in the last little bit. I think
it ultimately led to that decision.
Speaker 1 (25:43):
You get it though, I mean it does when you
talk about a guy needs this and needs that, there's
still learning and then you you already take away all
this opportunity for him to learn and to participate, and
then he doesn't, you know, with that chance to do
so on Saturday. That's why people kind of look at
this a little bit sideways.
Speaker 3 (26:04):
Joel all together, Yeah, but they, I mean they, I think,
if you if he goes out there and looks great
against the Bengals, you go, but we've made our We've
made our decision. Yeah. I think it has more to
do with just they they've run into. They've run into
a couple of real scars here with with some very
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important players, and they don't want to have any many
more any more scars turned into you know, injured reserve
opportunities like happened on our wall last week.
Speaker 1 (26:36):
Hey Joe, how long have you been here?
Speaker 3 (26:40):
I started five games into the twenty eighteen season.
Speaker 1 (26:45):
Wow, how much enjoyment of you actually seemed fulfilled?
Speaker 3 (26:52):
Well, uh, I was up to a good start there,
I was up to a good start. Yeah, I.
Speaker 7 (26:59):
Thought, yeah, I thought jeded Flawson on.
Speaker 3 (27:01):
It was ten of the next eleven and then, uh,
you know, the the Philip Rivers year was quite fun.
Speaker 1 (27:07):
I thought, uh, yeah, I was.
Speaker 3 (27:10):
But but yeah, yeah, there's I understand the pain from
Colts fans. It's this is it is very difficult to
continually be going through. And I think I think part
of the reason that they're so frustrated is that in
in choosing Daniel Jones over Anthony Richardson, they're signaling in
one way or the other that in his third year
he's not ready to start like that. That's the guy
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that was supposed to be the guy for you, That's
the guy that was supposed to be pull you out
of where you've been. Yeah, I get it. It totally
makes sense to me from a fan standpoint. You know
why why this is as frustrating and its disheartening as
it as it probably is, because he was supposed to
give you hope. And you know, as much as Nicolts
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have said, you know, as little as brought up Baker
Mayfield and Sam Darnold like that, most fans know in
general and asn't like in general, those guys are are
the exception, not the rules. And so I think that's
that's why everyone. I think that's why the fan base
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is fairly disappointed and disheartened right down.
Speaker 1 (28:21):
I had said this all along, that if if Anthony
Richardson did not start and play this season, that there's
really no reason to have everybody around. And that's kind
of how I feel, because I think, unfortunately we're all
going to end up and we'll see how the season goes,
just tell us to be played, but I just think
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we're going to end up where we were in that
general vicinity of a year ago, when you could have
expedited this process. And again, I don't know what you
do with quarterback, but I know you could do something
similar as to what you're doing right now. To me,
this just looks like it's going to be a wasted
here knowing something you're already knowing. Hey, Joe, the dynamic
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at work was you know, Jim wasn't feeling great as
we well know, you had all this other stuff going on.
I do realize that, But at the same time, it
just seems like again, organizationally, there's been the dragon to
defeat that leads us down a similar path, and we're
on our way to a similar result. And I think
that's that's until further notice. That's how I think I
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have to view it at least.
Speaker 3 (29:29):
Yeah, I mean, I don't think anyone that's gonna be
picking I don't think anyone is gonna be picking the
Colts as a as a contender this year. You know,
it's it's on them to prove. It's on them to
prove that this is something more than where they've been
the last however many years, because that's that's what we see,
you know, and you know, with with what with moving
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forward to the future, I think it's instructive. Like CARLIERC.
Gordon said, you know, in her ange auctory press conference,
she needs to see how the season plays out. She's
know all that stuff, but she also said, you know
that the standard has not been met, and that Chris
Brower and change I can know that, and so you know,
I think we all know the potential implications of that.
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And they they've got to prove that that this decision
to go to Jones is going to get them somewhere
that we haven't seen them.
Speaker 1 (30:21):
Getting along them Jolie Ericson of The Star. Not a
lot of winning for Joel as he's been here. I
will say this too, Philip Rivers year two as they expected.
Had that taken place, things might have been a little
bit different.
Speaker 3 (30:36):
That was the thought that many times, thought that many
many times.
Speaker 1 (30:41):
And they thought that and they were wrong about that,
And that was that was costly, not as costly as
dumping Manning or as costly as you know Lux decision.
But I think that's right along the lines. Had they
been able to bridge the gap to year two of
Rivers as they expected, things could have and maybe would
be drastically different. So but what are you gonna do?
Speaker 3 (31:04):
That's that's the quarterback game in the NFL. Indeed, it
is a bunch of missed opportunities or made opportunities, and
they're all sliding doors moments one way or the other.
Speaker 1 (31:14):
Well, in honor of your yellow tie on Saturday, I'm
rocking a yellow polo today.
Speaker 3 (31:23):
I was.
Speaker 2 (31:26):
I was.
Speaker 3 (31:27):
They introduced me on TV with a picture of my
boys and I at the Brewers game in Cincinnati on
on Friday, and I was. I figured I would go
uh Brewer's colors on on on air two, just to
play into what they were already doing.
Speaker 1 (31:44):
Yeah, that was I own up. Maybe I shouldn't call
it yellow, Maybe it was gold, the golden tie. I'm
going with the golden shirt today. Hey, well done as always, man,
I appreciate you on a busy day. We'll do it
again soon.
Speaker 6 (31:58):
He thank you.
It's like our next guest on the Andy Morrill Automotive
(00:02):
Group pile line. He's got a busy week. Stuff going
on today, stuff going on Friday. Greg Rakestraw joins us
Daniel Jones. Was that a bold decision by Shane Styke,
and in particular, I can never get this guy the
way that he needed to be, So let's go get
this guy that's twenty games under five hundred on his
career to start.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
I would say it was not the decision I thought
they would make. I'm not sure it's the wrong decision.
It's just I thought they would and you heard me
say it. I didn't think there was much that separated
the two from what I saw during training camp in
terms of results of the game. Obviously Shane Stike and
saw things differently. He's gonna go with Daniel Jones in
week number one.
Speaker 1 (00:39):
Greg Rerakestraw, Yes, it's funny. What do you see? What
did you see out there? You were out there all
the time, in Daniel Jones, because I'm right there with you,
I didn't see much of a difference. I thought when
one guy sucked, the other guy sucked, and one guy
was good, the other guy was good. That's what I saw.
Speaker 2 (00:59):
The thing that we had said throughout the course of
this is that I think the floor is higher with
Daniel Jones, the ceiling is higher with Anthony Richardson. I
did think that we had seen some strides from Anthony,
there were still, you know, mistakes that were made in
terms of accuracy. I thought Anthony looked a lot more
like the quarterback than in a much smaller sample side
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his rookie year through a sixty percent kind of completion
or eight compared to the one that was sub fifty,
which is a do not pass go scenario from last year.
You know, if if there was an area in which
Joanes struggled, you know, it was the deep ball, I guess.
And hearing kind of you talk in the opening this
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segment is kind of putting thoughts together on this. You know,
there are times in camp the last few days when
I saw what Daniel Jones was doing and thought, all right,
this has got something to the Gardner Minshew effects. Yeah,
and Minshew led you to nine wins and it could
have been ten. And and Jones brings something of the
Anthony and Richardson like ability to run along with maybe
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more of the accuracy that minshe brought. And again, I
think it's just you know, confirmation from the perspective of shame,
perspective of Chris and and everybody involved that you know,
you need to win now and again, winning for this
group I think is ten wins in a playoff spot,
and maybe they feel that Daniel Jones is the guy
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that can best deliver that. Obviously, everybody has higher goals
than that from a long term perspective, but it is
you need to win now, and that's the why I
think the Colts made this move they announced today.
Speaker 1 (02:37):
I think I know who the biggest loser is in
all this right now. However, how far off the pace
might a guy with the skill set like Alec pierceby
considering what you just uttered with the lack of a
deep ball from Daniel Jones, which clearly is that of
a Pierce Forte right.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
It's one of the things though, that you know you've
heard people with the Colts talk about, is they feel
that Pierce is not just a one trick pony. He
is not as a deep ball threat. Obviously we haven't
seen much of him during training camp because it got
hurt in course of the last week and didn't play
when he was healthy in terms of the first game.
But let's see, he's one of the things with this group.
I think there are some pretty easy to define skill sets.
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You know, Michael Pittman Junior is gonna be your first
down guy, your physical receiver that moves to change Josh
downs is your space guy as long as he's healthy
at Amsterring. You know, going into week number one, if
pierces the deep threat, okay, well, now what else does
he do because obviously you've been got kind of that
defined role in terms of the tight ends where you know,
you've got Warren and Mallary to the pass catchers and
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ogle Tree and Moiley Cox that are kind of the
more of the blocking guys. So well, Alec Pierce lead
the league by five yards in terms of yards per
catch the way he did last year. No, but you
know what, he cut several paths like that from Joe
Flacco too, So maybe we're we're under selling that all
into the game. In terms of the offense going forward.
Speaker 1 (04:02):
Greg Grayshaw's on the Andy Moro Auto Motor group pileline
this team, at least from what has been explained to
me from those that spent every day at camp, saw
too many pre snap penalties. I think that's been brought up.
Is that kind of what we see in the blame
game here on that of Richardson? Is that what we
see making sure you stay away from those particular situations.
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Is that the dialogue that Stiking brought up regarding getting
guys in the right spots and making sure they're in
the right play. And is that because we did see,
at least from what people had suggested out in Westfield,
too many pre snap penalties along that line during camp.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
You know, I'm not sure if I saw an overabundance
of pre snat penalties in terms of camp. Obviously, there
is the obvious Mits Blitz pick up, you know, from
the first preseason game in Baltimore that stands out. And
the one thing I would say is this, the Colts
are one of the least penalized teams of the National
Football League last year. And again that was done with
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primarily exclusively, but primarily Anthony Rison a quarterback. So clearly
there is the feeling that the offense, the operation runs
smoother with Daniel Jones as the quarterback, and that again
there are less mistakes with Daniel Jones at the quarterback.
So whatever those mistakes might be, that's clearly what in
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part was brought up today Greg.
Speaker 1 (05:28):
We mentioned this being an indictment on Chris Ballard. There
are many, but I'm curious on Shane Steikn for going
into year three and not being able to even come close. Literally,
you're getting a guy that's twenty games under five hundred
and choosing him as the starter over the guy you know.
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One of the reasons why you brought him in, one
of the reasons why you drafted him as well is
you put the two and two together and you're going
to make a little bit of magic. And now he's
the backup quarterback in year number three. How big of
a failure is that for stiking.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
I think everybody is on the same timeline, and I
think it goes back to this, everybody is in win
now mode, and again, I don't think there are these
massive expectations that is simply to win more than you
have and that has been nine games and eight games
over the course of the last two years when you've
had this entire group together. And so with the moves
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that were made in the off season to add major
defensive pieces in bying them and Ward to add a
weapon that you needed at the tight end position in
Tyler Warren. This is again to me and I have
set this all off season long. It is playoffs or bust.
You know, clearly the family is very you know, is
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aware of the fact that there's not been a division
championship here now in eleven years. Because of how good
I think the Houston Texans might be. I'm not sure
that is going to happen. But you can still be
a playoff team and not win your division. And I
think that everything in terms of judgment is going to
be what the what the record is going to be
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at the end of this season.
Speaker 1 (07:08):
Now, right, Greg? One final thing, and by the way,
if you're on hold two, three, nine, ten seventy, I'll
get to you coming up in a minute. But it
is week one of the high school football schedule on
Friday night. Give that bad boy some love on a
day with a lot of news. Talk it up quickly
before I'll let you go.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
Laurence Central and Lawrence North is the game that I
will have. We at IC will have Rebuff and North
Central will also have Center Grove and Warren. Central at
is number three versus number six, and again those two
have a very good chance of seeing each other again
in the regional round of the tournament. So yes, we
are three days now removed from the start of the
high school football season, and I will see you tomorrow
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afternoon at Carroll Stadium.
Speaker 1 (07:48):
Yes, I'll be over there too, probably with more dialogue
similar to this.
Speaker 2 (07:53):
How about, but we will put you in a suite
we were close to alcohol. That'll make a little bit.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
I like that, buddy, Thank you very much.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
Greg, see you about.
Speaker 1 (08:01):
And the Andy Moore Automotive Group hotline From the Indianapolis Star,
it is Joel a. Ericson who joins us. So your
belief going in compared to what you witnessed earlier today
from Shane Steyle?
Speaker 3 (08:16):
You know?
Speaker 1 (08:17):
Then moving forward to weight number one, What is it?
What do you think the feeling is around that locker
room about this decision at quarterback?
Speaker 3 (08:25):
I think from from talking to some of the players
that there's probably uh it sounds like I think make
Michael Pittman put it best that you're they're in a
spot where you you feel badly for Anthony, you feel
good for Daniel.
Speaker 4 (08:41):
You don't know how to necessarily reconcile those two things
together and.
Speaker 3 (08:46):
In a way that that makes a good package.
Speaker 4 (08:50):
But also it does sound like Daniel Jones has done
a good job of integrating himself into that locker room
over the over the past four months or five months
since he's been.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
Signed, Joey Erickson of The Star talking about Daniel Jones
being the starter, and then Anthony richardson his future. He's
on the Andymore Automotive Group hotline. So as far as
as Jones is concerned, compare that to Richardson. Listen, I'm
not there as much as you are, so I know
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that you would have a great deal of information. Did
you see a wide gap from what you witnessed a
training camp between the two quarterbacks.
Speaker 3 (09:29):
I think that the gap that I saw would probably
be made up for somewhat with Richardson big plays. But
I did have I did have Jones at close to
ten percent better completion rate. He doesn't go the ball
down the field as much. He had fewer I would
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say this, he had fewer periods of practice where he
kind of didn't have a lot of completions at all.
There was more of that from Richardson. I think listening
to shame psichin though I think that a lot of
this stuff is maybe stuff that would be tougher for
us to see.
Speaker 5 (10:09):
That is the ball going to the right spot, you know,
is the cadence right behind the line of scrimmage and
helping the offensive line get off the ball.
Speaker 3 (10:20):
Is it all starts that kind of thing. Is he
making all of the right checks at the line? The
thing about NFL football is that in the current era,
it is all about figuring out what your opponent does,
how to attack them, and how to counter whatever they
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come up with as a counter to your attack. And
because of that, the quarterback's job is you have to
be really on top of all of that stuff. And
it sounds like Jones, like Psychen decided that Jones was
more ready to do all of that.
Speaker 1 (10:54):
Let's Joey Erickson at the start talking about the Colt
quarterback decision. Today, He's kind of join us on the
Anymore Automotive Group hotline. So, even though you say all
the right things, again, things that have to be said,
considering the circumstances, do you believe that Anthony Richardson's career
is over here outside of injury?
Speaker 3 (11:18):
It's yeah, I think it's gonna be really tough for
him to come back. It's you just I was trying
the other day to come up with an example of
another player who've been in this situation where they've been
benched once brought back something like that. I don't know
if you can. And that's kind of the theme of
Richardson's career is that the cults have kind of always
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been hoping for something beyond like where something that didn't
have a lot of precedent in terms of his lack
of experience coming out of college some of the other stuff,
and this just adds another layer on it. We're talking Mike,
for him to make it with the colds outside of injury,
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it's gonna have to be something that's never happened for
an NFL history.
Speaker 1 (12:12):
Yeah, that's that's what I think too, And Joel, I
don't think it's too off target to suggest this is
one of the biggest bus selections in the history of
the league right now? Would you agree?
Speaker 3 (12:32):
That's a great question. There have been enough of them,
especially at the quarterback position, that there's probably a lot.
But yeah, you can't hit on a number four pick.
Speaker 1 (12:43):
Let's say, hey, Joel, I'm gonna let you play off
of this. JaMarcus Russell, Kelly Smith and I don't know
when a lot of these guys are drafted, but I
know that they're described as bust you know, Gosh, I can't.
Those are the two that come off the top of
my head right now. I mean it's I know, we
live in the moment. We live in the moment, Joe,
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I do realize that too, But I think you would
at least have to categorize this as one of the
biggest busts of all time considering what has been given
back because we've seen virtually nothing.
Speaker 3 (13:17):
Yeah, I mean you throw Tim Couch to be another
high pick, Ryan leaf car be another high pick. Those guys, yeah,
if he if he never gets another another real shot
starting his career, would fall in somewhere in that mix
of the guys you just mentioned.
Speaker 1 (13:35):
I know that Daniel Jones can move. Wouldn't you think
you ever see a time where they would slut Anthony
Richardson in there in a short yard in situation near
the goal.
Speaker 3 (13:45):
Uh? That's I mean, that's interesting. It's interesting because I
don't Dina Jones can Dina Jones has has good enough
speed to make some plays with his legs. He doesn't
have Richidson's power. We've got seen in the past that
Richardson's power as a runner, it's very very effective down
there on the goal line. And so yeah, I think
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that that's that's maybe a possibility. Now he's your backup
quarterback too, And do you want to get into a
situation where it's Daniel Jones are riding winner as the
emergency quarterback. Maybe you don't do it because of that,
you know. I think like when the Saints started doing
this with Cheatsom Hill, they had a backup to Drew
Brees and then Takesom Hill is doing his other stuff.
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So I don't know if you see it often, but
I think that you know, second is shown in the
path that they'd be willing to do it, maybe once
or twice is up.
Speaker 1 (14:36):
The playbook still as open for Jones as it might
be for Richardson. How do the two play books and
play calls compare with the quarterbacks? And then how how
does that have an impact I guess on his teammates offensively?
Speaker 3 (14:51):
I think in some ways, I think in some ways
the playbook is more open with Jones not maybe not
from a rushing standpoint, I think it's probably let's open
in terms of the different like, I don't know that
you can run the quarterback straight up the middle as
much with Jones as you could with Richardson, although you
know that it'd be fair to question whether or not
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that was the right thing to do with Richard didn't
given the injury history. But I don't think you can
do as much of that. I do think in the
passing game though, some of the stuff that Psyched is
talking about, with the operation, the you know, knowing the offense,
all of that stuff, it allows them to do a
little bit more game planning probably week to week would
be my guest. And now the flip side of that,
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you also probably lose some downfield ball that Alec Pierce
is probably you know, not getting as many as many
moonshots down the field. So I think from an actual
place called standpoint, it probably opens the playbook and that
they can run a bunch of different stuff. I think
in terms of you know, is it a deep ball,
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is it that kind of stuff, I think there's some
restrictions there that you're not going to necessarily see as much.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
Is Joel of the Star talking Colts on the Andy
Moore on a Motive Group hotline. I know you're as
curious about this as I am, but I guess I
would have to go with your opinion. Here. We know
how Shane Steikin felt because he ultimately made the decision.
How do you think Chris Ballard, or maybe even better yet,
carly Ers Gordon felt about that final decision.
Speaker 3 (16:23):
Well, carl Erse Gordon did say, you know the other
day on on the broadcast, that this was going to
be shamee Psyken's decision, you know, and she has she
has so far if I remember correctly, she has said
that it is it is for her a wait and
see approach this season. So I would I would see
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I would based off of what she said. I think
you know she she made it was it was psyched.
I think from a from a Chris Ballard standpoint, you know, uh,
Chris is definitely going to be He's gonna push back.
Got any narrative that Richardson's career has done. He's not gonna.
He's not gonna want to do that. He's not gonna
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want to close the door on that.
Speaker 6 (17:07):
I I think that the fact that he was willing
to say in his initial press conference that they needed
to go out and get real competition when this offseason first.
Speaker 3 (17:17):
Started back in January, because they needed to go out
and get real competition for Daniels or Anthony Richardson, and
that he was also the one to say it would
be an open competition to combine. I would say that
he was probably prepared for this eventuality based on the
way they handled the off season.
Speaker 1 (17:36):
So Joel ay Erickson of the Stars kind of enough
to join us. He's on the Andy Moore auto Motive
group plotline. Daniel Jones is the quarterback. Now, how much
disappointment do you think Shane has considering he's supposed to
be this huge offensive guy and being able to deal
with quarterbacks. And this is as I think you and
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I both agree, this is the end of result with
Anthony Richardson going into year three. He can't beat out
a guy that's twenty sticking games under five hundred in
his NFL career. Is that a failure for Shane Steichen
because I believe it to be.
Speaker 3 (18:13):
Well, you know, Shane was one of the driving forces
in drafting Richardson and believing that they could they could
develop him into that kind of player, and yeah, to
not have it happen, I think there's got to be
some disappointment. Uh there. You know, I wonder you wonder
if from a development standpoint, if if Stichen's strength is
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more along the lines of he can design an offense
that fits the quarterback. He can, you know, he'll design
something to think that that that they can run, that
will take advantage of their strengths, that kind of thing.
But in terms of the the day to day stuff
that we've heard, the operation of the huddle, all that stuff,
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I wonder if he's if he's more of a he
can design the offense, but he is he the hands
on type of quarterback developer. He has dustin hurtbreat and
zealand hurt. And this is part of the Richardson decision
to draft Richardson. The two guys that he worked with before,
those guys were were very experienced, like all of that stuff,
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a very large program, so all of that stuff they
kind of understood intrinsically from their careers before. You know,
Richardson was a different case, and that he was kind
of a raw lump of clay that didn't have that
background in all the stuff He's supposed to do so.
Speaker 1 (19:36):
I know the circumstances a year ago Joe were different,
but we also heard Regardi Joe Flacco that it was
going to be the rest of the year. Do you
think that that'd be maybe a change in judgment if
things don't work out, because listen, you know me to
be mister must win guy. There's no bigger must win.
And I also will tell you in week number one,
Joel the bar is set solo. Considering what week one
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is represented for this organization for so many years now,
and you get the Dolphins where the secondary is absolutely
right to be torn apart. There could not be a
better moment for Daniel Jones to have at least a
one week resurrection in week number one. I mean, really
they should. But you look at it in terms of
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early in the season. What impact do you think he
will have against teams like the Dolphins and the Broncos
in weeks one and two.
Speaker 3 (20:30):
Well, I think the biggest thing is that it's a different,
or at least it should be like the hope, and
I think for San Psyche and making this move that
the hope is that he's it's a different offense from
a It actually moves the chains and holds onto the ball.
They can move the ball down the field in a
way that's not just explosive plays. The Dolphins, I'm with you,
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that team has lost so much defensive talent over the
last couple of years. That's a nice one ending spot
I think for a new quarterback. The Broncos are not.
The Broncos are the type of defense that he's going
to have to prove that all of this stuff that
Psyche is saying about the operation and everything like that
is true, because the Broncos are going to test you
from a blitz standpoint. They're gonna test you from a
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bunch of different coverages. You know. That's That's the kind
of defense that I think is the reason that that
psychin felt like he had to make the move to
Jones this year.
Speaker 1 (21:29):
Joel A. Erickson is with us. It is something. Did
you expect this? And I guess furthermore, did you think
that going all the way back when they brought Daniel
Jones in? Did they legitimately think that he would ultimately
be named the starter for week number one? Did they
buy what they were even trying to sell to everybody
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back then? In your estimation I.
Speaker 3 (21:52):
Think that they believe that he could be kissed. I
would say that from from my standpoint, I've kind of
gone back and forth couple of weeks. Kind of frustrated
me so on my part. I in fact, I even
think I said on UH on our on our joint station.
I think I said I thought it was gonna be Richardson,
like I did say that after the game, and then
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I went back and listened to Shane second Uh for
the second time. You know, you do the press conference
and then you go to this other stuff and you
listen to it and type it out, and in typing
it out, I was thinking to myself, I was like,
he's talking about Daniel Jones, and I probably shouldn't have
said what I just said on TV. So I've kind
of gone back and forth on it. I think the
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hardest part with this, and the part that's that makes
it difficult, I think for for fans and for everybody
to kind of understand, is is that this decision is made.
It sounds like primarily on stuff that is not easy
for us to see.
Speaker 7 (22:50):
Sure, it's not easy for h Ed Dodd said this
last week. It's not even always easy for a front
office person to know that the right audible was made,
or that the ball went into the right spot, or.
Speaker 3 (23:03):
That their cadence was right and stuff like that. So
I think that's the hardest part for us, is that
this is stuff that's not easy for us to see.
Even if you are out of practice and watching it
every day. You know you can have a short completion
in practice, or a completion in practice that it goes
down as a completion in the book, but the ball
didn't go to where it was supposed to, or there
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was a blitzer who would have sacked him if it
wasn't Red Jerseys. I think that's the hardest part is
some part of the decision is stuff that we could
not easily see.
Speaker 1 (23:34):
I think we'd all understand maybe so far. The Richardson
signature moment was the tapping on the helmet of a
year ago. But I also think I don't know if
you do or not. That's why I'm asking when he
got a job ode in that first preseason game, was
that a defining moment as to why do you think
at least things, as you had mentioned earlier, we can't see.
(23:56):
But this is something we saw when they put his
pinky on side way. Was that a defining moment ultimately
that helped lead to this decision? You think?
Speaker 3 (24:05):
I think it was. I think it was a sign post. Yeah.
I think it was a sign post in terms of,
you know, he that was his rusher, that was his rusher.
He was hot on that side. His job was to
make the place that the rusher doesn't get to him,
and he didn't make it. And I think that that's
(24:27):
that's a sign post. That was kind of an alert
that maybe there was some that some of this stuff
that had been a problem for him in the past
was still a problem or going to be a problem.
Speaker 1 (24:37):
I know historically guys don't play, but preseasons are a
little bit different now than they used to be. In
closing here, Joel, but if you're talking about a guy
that needs more and needs to show more yet and
Richardson will not participate in that final preseason game, is
that more of what you said earlier. He's the backup
quarterback and you can't put him out there to get
(24:58):
him injured. Or is it what happens if the guy
goes out there and looks absolutely outstanding and that screws
up everything here? Is there a dynamic at work on
either way in that final preseason game.
Speaker 3 (25:10):
I think the biggest thing is just how many guys
left injury on Saturday. My my initial and understanding was
that they were going to play some of their guys
a little bit more, you know, a little bit more
in that third preseason game. I think they just and
there's actually it's there's still a fairly lengthy list of
people out at practice. I think that just the sheer
(25:35):
numbers of players who are dealing with or have dealt
with something here in the last little bit. I think
it ultimately led to that decision.
Speaker 1 (25:43):
You get it though, I mean it does when you
talk about a guy needs this and needs that, there's
still learning and then you you already take away all
this opportunity for him to learn and to participate, and
then he doesn't, you know, with that chance to do
so on Saturday. That's why people kind of look at
this a little bit sideways.
Speaker 3 (26:04):
Joel all together, Yeah, but they, I mean they, I think,
if you if he goes out there and looks great
against the Bengals, you go, but we've made our We've
made our decision. Yeah. I think it has more to
do with just they they've run into. They've run into
a couple of real scars here with with some very
(26:26):
important players, and they don't want to have any many
more any more scars turned into you know, injured reserve
opportunities like happened on our wall last week.
Speaker 1 (26:36):
Hey Joe, how long have you been here?
Speaker 3 (26:40):
I started five games into the twenty eighteen season.
Speaker 1 (26:45):
Wow, how much enjoyment of you actually seemed fulfilled?
Speaker 3 (26:52):
Well, uh, I was up to a good start there,
I was up to a good start. Yeah, I.
Speaker 7 (26:59):
Thought, yeah, I thought jeded Flawson on.
Speaker 3 (27:01):
It was ten of the next eleven and then, uh,
you know, the the Philip Rivers year was quite fun.
Speaker 1 (27:07):
I thought, uh, yeah, I was.
Speaker 3 (27:10):
But but yeah, yeah, there's I understand the pain from
Colts fans. It's this is it is very difficult to
continually be going through. And I think I think part
of the reason that they're so frustrated is that in
in choosing Daniel Jones over Anthony Richardson, they're signaling in
one way or the other that in his third year
he's not ready to start like that. That's the guy
(27:32):
that was supposed to be the guy for you, That's
the guy that was supposed to be pull you out
of where you've been. Yeah, I get it. It totally
makes sense to me from a fan standpoint. You know
why why this is as frustrating and its disheartening as
it as it probably is, because he was supposed to
give you hope. And you know, as much as Nicolts
(27:54):
have said, you know, as little as brought up Baker
Mayfield and Sam Darnold like that, most fans know in
general and asn't like in general, those guys are are
the exception, not the rules. And so I think that's
that's why everyone. I think that's why the fan base
(28:16):
is fairly disappointed and disheartened right down.
Speaker 1 (28:21):
I had said this all along, that if if Anthony
Richardson did not start and play this season, that there's
really no reason to have everybody around. And that's kind
of how I feel, because I think, unfortunately we're all
going to end up and we'll see how the season goes,
just tell us to be played, but I just think
(28:41):
we're going to end up where we were in that
general vicinity of a year ago, when you could have
expedited this process. And again, I don't know what you
do with quarterback, but I know you could do something
similar as to what you're doing right now. To me,
this just looks like it's going to be a wasted
here knowing something you're already knowing. Hey, Joe, the dynamic
(29:03):
at work was you know, Jim wasn't feeling great as
we well know, you had all this other stuff going on.
I do realize that, But at the same time, it
just seems like again, organizationally, there's been the dragon to
defeat that leads us down a similar path, and we're
on our way to a similar result. And I think
that's that's until further notice. That's how I think I
(29:26):
have to view it at least.
Speaker 3 (29:29):
Yeah, I mean, I don't think anyone that's gonna be
picking I don't think anyone is gonna be picking the
Colts as a as a contender this year. You know,
it's it's on them to prove. It's on them to
prove that this is something more than where they've been
the last however many years, because that's that's what we see,
you know, and you know, with with what with moving
(29:53):
forward to the future, I think it's instructive. Like CARLIERC.
Gordon said, you know, in her ange auctory press conference,
she needs to see how the season plays out. She's
know all that stuff, but she also said, you know
that the standard has not been met, and that Chris
Brower and change I can know that, and so you know,
I think we all know the potential implications of that.
(30:13):
And they they've got to prove that that this decision
to go to Jones is going to get them somewhere
that we haven't seen them.
Speaker 1 (30:21):
Getting along them Jolie Ericson of The Star. Not a
lot of winning for Joel as he's been here. I
will say this too, Philip Rivers year two as they expected.
Had that taken place, things might have been a little
bit different.
Speaker 3 (30:36):
That was the thought that many times, thought that many
many times.
Speaker 1 (30:41):
And they thought that and they were wrong about that,
And that was that was costly, not as costly as
dumping Manning or as costly as you know Lux decision.
But I think that's right along the lines. Had they
been able to bridge the gap to year two of
Rivers as they expected, things could have and maybe would
be drastically different. So but what are you gonna do?
Speaker 3 (31:04):
That's that's the quarterback game in the NFL. Indeed, it
is a bunch of missed opportunities or made opportunities, and
they're all sliding doors moments one way or the other.
Speaker 1 (31:14):
Well, in honor of your yellow tie on Saturday, I'm
rocking a yellow polo today.
Speaker 3 (31:23):
I was.
Speaker 2 (31:26):
I was.
Speaker 3 (31:27):
They introduced me on TV with a picture of my
boys and I at the Brewers game in Cincinnati on
on Friday, and I was. I figured I would go
uh Brewer's colors on on on air two, just to
play into what they were already doing.
Speaker 1 (31:44):
Yeah, that was I own up. Maybe I shouldn't call
it yellow, Maybe it was gold, the golden tie. I'm
going with the golden shirt today. Hey, well done as always, man,
I appreciate you on a busy day. We'll do it
again soon.
Speaker 6 (31:58):
He thank you.
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