August 27, 2025 • 32 mins
00:00 - 9:15 - Dan Orlovsky from ESPN joins the show to discuss the Colts QB situation, what Anthony Richardson’s future in Indy and the NFL looks like, what the outlook of the season is and more!
9:16 - 32:01 - Kevin Bowen from The Fan Morning Show joins JMV! Kevin talks about Ballard’s tone in these press conferences, and how defensive it comes off as, as well as Richardson’s future in Indy, and the importance of the Week 1 game against Miami.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
More on the Colts in the NFL right now from
ESPN or the Andy Moore Automotive Group Potline, the former
quarterback you know him well. Dani Rolofsky is with us. Hey, Dan,
thank you very much for the time.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
How are you.
Speaker 3 (00:11):
I'm doing great. Good to be with you, Bud.
Speaker 1 (00:12):
I want to start with Daniel Jones. How do you
feel this is going to work out? Because I have
kind of put this up as week number one. The
bar is low. Miami is a team here that can
be had. You can get off I think to a
good start. What do you think about the combination with quarterback, offense,
head coach and the like with the situation here in
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Indy going into this year.
Speaker 3 (00:38):
Yeah, in regards to Daniel, I mean, expectations aren't incredibly high.
You know. It's it's and it's not a knock on Daniel,
it's just, you know, they're not a ton of high
end potential indoor excitement. It's one of the reasons if
you go back to when he was the sixth pick
of the draft, you're like, wait, what So that being said,
there's a ton of talent on the simeter, specifically for Indy,
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and that's always gonna be a huge impact. You know,
I'd say this. You know, I know Miami has gone
through some turmo and some change this offseason and whatnot,
and has lost some players, but that defense really started
to play well down at the back half of the
stretch last year. They're not completely healthy when if you
look at the potential of names, but they'll challenge Indie offensively,
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for sure. It's a group that's really good on the
back end as far as talent. Anthony Weaver, their defensive
coordinators very bright, comes from Baltimore, so wants to try
and stop the run with lesser people down near the football,
So they will if they're capable of doing that. They
will challenge Daniel and the perimeter guys versus sticky coverage.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
How do you compare what the Colts have as a
supporting offensive cast for Daniel Jones to start the season
compared to that.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
Of what he had while with the Giants.
Speaker 3 (01:54):
Oh, significantly greater, you know, from top to bottom. I
would tell you offensive line wise is probably the biggest difference.
You know, He's the offensive line in India is a
much better unit than what he had in New York.
And then he's never had the depth of people that
he has in Indie right now. You know, I think
that's the thing. But I've talked about a lot this
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offseason in specific to the quarterback spot, is you know,
maybe Indy doesn't have that one name that is that
high end, top ten player at the position, but there's
four or five pretty darn good perimeter players and they
all have pretty specific roles and pretty unique skill sets
that you know, I think you can do a lot
of things with. So it's a much much higher end
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group than you know, he's ever had.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
Dan or Alaskia of ESPN, former NFL quarterback you again
know him well. He's kind enough to join us on
the Andy Moore Automotive Group potline. Surprised, disappointed. What's the
feeling about going into year three with Anthony Richardson here
and he being the backup quarterback in Week one?
Speaker 3 (02:55):
Yeah, I'm not surprised. You know. The one thing that
came evidence and I had said this was like it
was the most difficult quarterback situation and decision in the league,
you know that Shankstiching and group had to make. Because
I understand it in ways, because it's not my job
on the line. They have to all win and play well.
And so you're sitting there going, well, who gives us
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the best chance to at least have a chance, you know,
and it's not going to beat ourselves that often. And
see you lean Daniel, and I just go back to
those perimeter players and I can understand them sitting around
in a room going Okay, you know, we've got a
d Mitchell and Alec Pierce and Michael Pittman Junior and
Tyler Warren and Josh Downs and Jonathan Taylor, like we
just need a guy to facilitate, and Daniel's more equipped
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to do that. And so you sit there and go
understand it, and then a part of me goes I,
you know, I get frustrated and disappointed, and I don't
understand it, because what is it going to bring you?
If Daniel peaks, it's going to get you to nine
and eight, ten and seven. And you're still like, okay, cool,
you know, And again my job's on the line, so
it's easier for me to say that disappointed that Anthony
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didn't take advantage of the opportunity coming off of the
benching of last year. And you know, the declaration when
you assign Daniel, you're making a very clear message or
sending one like hey, dude, it's time to put up.
And you know, with some of the injury and you know,
mispractice time in the spring, and then obviously the training
camp shot with the pinky, it's just disappointing. Obviously, I'm
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someone who believed in his talent, and I still believe
in the talent. But you know, he's in that very
tough spot where, yeah, he has to play, he's just
so far behind in his football life and reps. You know,
he's I said this on NFL Live when it happened,
it was cj Bnick. You got five thousand reps in
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college in the NFL combined. Anthony's at like seventeen hundred.
So he's just missing three four seasons of repetitions and
he's obviously not going to get on the bench, and
you get it's fair to question, like, is is he
ever going to get it to get up to speed?
Speaker 1 (05:00):
Dan? You have the opinion now that if he ever
does evolve into the type of quarterback that you thought
he could be, others thought he could be, that it's
going to be someplace else other than Andy.
Speaker 4 (05:12):
Yeah, naturally, My thought goes, yes, But I mean, you've
covered this league a long time, I'm sure, and things
happen in this league, and you have no idea what
Daniel's going to do this year.
Speaker 3 (05:24):
And Daniel could go out and play well, then you
can go out and struggle. Dan, you could go out
and get hurt. He's got injury history. It touched himself,
and so I hope that the opportunity presents itself somewhere
for Anthony, and then you know, he's got to take
full advantage of being on the field and staying on
the field and playing his best. But unless Daniel, you know,
suffers an injury, really struggles, I would assume that it's elsewhere.
Speaker 1 (05:48):
Yes, I just I don't know how could you just
explained the dynamic here. You know, he needs the reps,
he needs the time, but you're not going to get
it as the backup quarterback because Jones is going to
get all those reps in practice, So you're really not
going to see it thing. And basically what you're counting
on is doing something that you've done a lot of
in the first two years that clearly hasn't helped you,
you know, ascend to the job. Of being the starting
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quarterback in week number one and number three. So what
good does all this do? I guess is what I'm
getting to.
Speaker 3 (06:16):
Not much, you know, not much. You know, it's and
it's the I guess. One of the things that makes
it most disappointing is when you when he has had
the opportunity to play and get on the field and
stay healthy, there's been there's been glimpses of like yeah,
you know, and and it just he hasn't put it
together together, and so I yeah, the premise is like, okay,
what are we doing?
Speaker 5 (06:35):
You know?
Speaker 3 (06:35):
And that's why my initial thought is like full of
doubt when it comes to is it over in Indie?
But you know, Dan, you can go out in week
one and that that position you just never know. And
so you know, again, unless something happens to him, it
feels unlikely, but the opportunity can always present itself and
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then it's a new point. But he's not going to
get better being the number two quarterback. No, he will
not not getting not to the point where he fulfills
his potential.
Speaker 1 (07:09):
I know you got a run quickly here, Dan, but
one final thing should I've kind of held both ends
accountable here. I'm as disappointed with the lack of evolution
with coaching him up as I am with Anthony Richardson
trying to learn it and then put it to good
use on the field. Where are you with that combination?
Is it more about coaching or lack thereof or about
the player himself as to why he's not reached what
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we thought could be his potential.
Speaker 3 (07:33):
No, I mean it's always both, right. Obviously, coming off
with some of the reports of last year, you know,
he's got to carry a big, big burden when it
comes to his development or lack thereof. It's also this
everybody knew one. He was incredibly young when he came
out of Florida. Youth leads to immaturity there, you know,
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the youth leads to not knowing, And so I don't
know if it was the best now that I look
back on it, you know, consumed by the x's and
o's combination that him and Shane we're going to have together,
But you know, was the three or four year plan
really the best for him? When it comes to he's
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going to play All the snaps obviously injuries were part
of it, but he's gonna play We're not gonna worry
about winning. We're only worried about getting him, you know,
to all the snaps and experiencing needs, and then you know,
putting the right people around him as far as mentorship
and leadership and veteran elements. So you know, it's a
very young offense, specifically on the perimeter. So I'm not
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trying to make excuses for Anthony. He's got his hand
in it, but it certainly is is everybody's included in
it absolutely.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
Uh Denner Lasky ESPN does CNFL a O lout of
college football in general. Conversation on the Andy Moore on
Imotive Group Paul and I know you have to run.
I appreciate you hopping on here today and we'll we'll
gather your thoughts again.
Speaker 2 (08:54):
What's the regular seasons underway?
Speaker 3 (08:57):
And you're going to be with you, budd Bey will
appreciate that.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
Deaneral Lofki, did you notice what he just said right
there at the end. I love that.
Speaker 1 (09:05):
So I'll let you in on something. When I say
the Andy Moore Automotive Group potline, sometimes the guests believe
that's me. Kevin Boone is with us now. So I
just saw you in the hallway. What the hell is
happening here? Why are you on the phone.
Speaker 5 (09:22):
Yeah, I have a question for you as well. Yeah,
but yeah, I gotta grab Max bow in here by
four point thirty. So I thought, okay, let's multitats, let's
drive and let's chat here with John and I always
enjoy these Wednesday convoes. But my question was, what's the
backpack doing in the hallway? Why not bring a backpack
(09:44):
in studio.
Speaker 2 (09:45):
I've got two of them. I don't know why I
don't bring it in here. Isn't it weird? I have
no idea. I put it in that chair out there
and leave it every day. That's weird.
Speaker 5 (09:54):
I walked by it like an hour ago.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
I'm like, oh, there it is, John.
Speaker 5 (09:58):
You know it out there til Jake's John, and then
I'll walk in stee you and then I'm yeah, then
you're out there digging for pins. All of a sudden,
I'm like, just just just keep that in the studio.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
I could just do it, put it in there. I
don't know why I do that.
Speaker 1 (10:10):
Maybe it's just kind of the break the monotony to
walk out for a minute and then walk back in.
Speaker 2 (10:15):
You do that in the morning, do you walk out
of the studio.
Speaker 5 (10:19):
Well, there are definitely times where I think I should
probably need a break from those three that I'm that
I'm in there with, So maybe I should probably entertain
a little bit more of that. I'm not a big walker,
you know. I I drink usually, Usually I'm about two
cups of coffee and a good amount of water. Yeah,
I just got to pee a lot, honestly. Yeah, so
that's that's what I'm doing. I'm just I'm probably peeing,
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you know, once an hour during the morning.
Speaker 2 (10:42):
How about you overnight? I am I'm like a water
slide in my track now.
Speaker 5 (10:50):
I know. I'm a little nervous. I brought this up
on air, and I think it was we all of
a sudden, we went from you know, being the porter
potty to talk about my prostate a lot. I feel
like I'm a little bit more at night than the
thirty five year old should be. So I'd say I'm
easily a one and probably twice a night. Yeah, no, No, I.
Speaker 2 (11:13):
Take the over on me right there. I may.
Speaker 1 (11:16):
I may do it at night more than the Colts
end up winning games this season.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
Take the over on it. Yeah, I can't help a
little bit.
Speaker 5 (11:29):
More around like produced probably win loss over under than
I am around the Colts win loss over under.
Speaker 2 (11:35):
Yeah. It.
Speaker 1 (11:36):
Kevin Bowen joins us from the Morning Show and the
Andy Moore Automotive Group Hotline. I do want to double
back at the ballot press conference earlier today because it's
it's kind of interesting the dynamic. I didn't feel that
he was any different or any more salty than.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
He normally was.
Speaker 1 (11:54):
Now again, I had him a couple of years ago
at the Combine, and I don't know if he could
have been more salty in the twenty minutes we were
together there. Not so much anymore, but certainly at that
point in time, that was a level of salty. I
just I think that is a personality he is comfortable with.
(12:14):
And I think much of the entitlement he talked about
some of these guys got a year ago that they
were trying to work out of this organization and make
guys work for it. I think that also entitlement wise
comes across in some of his dialogue to you guys agree, Yeah, I.
Speaker 5 (12:31):
Could not agree more. I got asked by several people like,
oh my gosh, he's so defensive and he's so. So
I'm like, is this your first crispout breath conference yea
waking or certainly the first one in the last couple
of years. To me, there's no difference, you know, Honestly, John,
I was had I don't know if apathetics right word,
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but like, I wasn't expecting a lot from the presser today,
and there's been a lot of times with ballot pressers
that I have accepted a lot, and I think all
some times again he compared him to other gms. I
think largely you get a good amount of candor with it.
It might not be exactly what you want to hear
or maybe the tone you want to hear it, but
you do get that from him. But generally I thought
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today he would back Anthony Richardson like no other with
his words, and he did that, and at some point
he would get frustrated with the quarterback questions, and you know,
I went back and listened to it on my way
back from the complex, and I want to say it
was like minute thirteen or fourteen, where you know, he
did bring up the line of hey, you know, there
are fifty one other guys on the roster there and
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you know he did it in a usual ballad way,
but you know, outside of that, I didn't think. I
think he usually is a little bit on edge in
this press conference more than others because the season is
about to start and you know, all of that leads
to you know, just hey, it's bleeper, get off the pod.
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And obviously his you know, resume would lend to that
carry on a little bit more weight than others. But yeah,
I thought it was a pretty normal ballad to be
honest with you.
Speaker 1 (14:06):
Do you think that he does get a in his
responses the entitlement that he has been given, because, let's
face it, I mean, most guys with the results in
that position and all these guys know this is nothing
new across the board of the NFL. He'd probably had
come and gone three different times during his tenure here
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with these results or lack thereof. Is there a bit
of entitlement there and being comfortable in a gig that
he has been able to sustain as a part of
without showing the results that normally would be necessary at
that level.
Speaker 5 (14:43):
Yeah, there is probably a little bit of that. I've
always felt, I mean year one throughout year nine. Now
that he is naturally an extremely comfortable human when we
get into those sorts of settings. So, and I don't
think anything has largely changed that. I mean, again, maybe
at times it's a little bit more on edge with questions,
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but I don't think, you know, that has changed too
too much over the years. I just think for the
most part, he considers himself pretty smooth in those situations.
You know, it reminds me a little bit of Brian
Kelly from a college football sense, where Shane Stiken he's
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just trying to talk pretty much as sass he can
to get the press conference over with. You know that.
That's kind of how I view those two in terms
of media setting settings there. So yeah, I just think
that's largely how he's wired.
Speaker 1 (15:41):
All Right, anything occur to you today. As far as
the whole quarterback situation. I did at the oddset bring
this up when he mentioned it's good in terms of
you know, Anthony Richardson, you know, working his way and
doing this and you know you're seeing progress. I'm sorry,
I don't care how many different ways you dressed this up.
(16:04):
This guy not starting in week number one of year
number three is about as far from good as you
can get.
Speaker 6 (16:13):
Yeah, I was curious, like would he go back to
you know, just kind of the Monday through Saturday off
the field stuff, and you know, he downplayed a lot
of that.
Speaker 5 (16:25):
And really wouldn't even go there at all, you know,
and at times last year, I guess I'd have to
go back and read his comments. But obviously in the
season that was an issue in why he was benched there,
and so they seem to have kind of largely swept
that aspect under the rug. I mean again, there's so
many aspects or questions and the Anthony Richardson thing, you
almost forget about some of them at times, but they
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seem to be more onto the you know, no, he's
got to, you know whatever, watch a pro in Daniel Jones' case,
I'm using VALA's words here, you know, operated the line
of scrimage and make checks and see how he goes
about things in meeting rooms and all of that. And
you know, again to me, you know, he had sat
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in meeting rooms nineteen times now Richardson in his two
years and not played in that game seventeen of a
dude to injury to due to benching, you know, how
many more games than he did. Does he need know, seventeen.
On top of that, he needs thirty six games of
sitting and watching. I mean again, I find me success
stories around the league that had that much of it,
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and not to mention he had so little from a
college resume standpoint. And you know, again, Alex, if you
took a shot today, every time Alex Smith's name was mentioned, yeah,
I mean, you'd be drunk until Saturday. But you know,
when he brings up Alex Smith for the Richardson comp,
you know, did it take Alex Smith a while to
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kind of get on firm ground in the NFL.
Speaker 2 (17:53):
Yeah, I think.
Speaker 5 (17:54):
That's very fair. The problem with the Richardson comp is
we've never seen Anthony Richardson have a good stretch of football,
and I would define stretches six games we've never seen
that we haven't seen in the NFL, and we didn't
see it at Florida. In his one year of starting,
Alex Smith was a Heisman Trophy finalist at Utah. He
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had one of the best seasons you know, really a
quarterbacks put up in quite some time, and that real
back twenty years and this was pre you know a
lot of these video game numbers. The college quarterbacks can
can put up nowadays, he was a number one overall pick. Like,
you know, that is not what Richardson did at Florida.
I mean it was a very up and down betting
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on the potential and the good of that, knowing full
well you're going to tap into, knowing full well. The
hope is that he's had that of that. But again,
like the Baker Mayfield comps about as made before, like
the Sam Donald toss before you know, Baker won the
Heisman Trophy. Sam Donald threw for you know, four thousand
yards and one of the best conferences in college football.
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We still have yet to see Richardson do it. And
so I think that's where I struggle with it. But
you know, there's also part of me, John, and this
kind of goes back to maybe to the start of
the conversation and why I didn't walk into that press
room today overly, I guess eager to hear what Bout
had to say. When you have that resume going into
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year nine, what can you say? Yeah, Like there was
a quote he had at one point where he goes,
you know, and he's asked quite often about, hey, why
should fans believe blah blah blah, okay, but he had
a quote that I thought was the perfect quote. It was, well,
they're gonna believe if you win, and if you lose,
then you're not They're not going to believe in you.
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And I thought that was a very simplified way to
say it. And yes, you know, actions speaks so much
more than words, and I get it at times you
do want to hear words that are different. I just
don't know what those words would have been. Maybe if
he would have fallen on the sword and said, you
know what, we screwed up Anthony day one and you
should have bought him around slowly, and I should have
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signed you know, veteran quarterbacks that have been in the
league for ten years, and he should have started, and
Anthony should have watched it. Maybe those would have been
the words.
Speaker 3 (20:10):
But with this.
Speaker 5 (20:11):
Resume, it just feels like there's an element of we're
just going through the motions.
Speaker 2 (20:15):
keV. Here's what's word to me.
Speaker 1 (20:17):
You just went through the dialogue of quarterback comparisons and
bringing up Alex Smith as he did today or in
the past, Baker Mayfield, and I'll be damned, most of
the time, I don't know which quarterback here you're talking about,
which makes it all that much worse. Seriously, I don't
know if you're talking are you talking about Daniel Jones
or or Anthony Richards? Which one are you talking about?
That's how bad, that's how bad this is. Right now
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we get a loss to the shuffle, which which quarterback
you're making a comp to that you know is still
trying to learn or may need a change in scenery.
Speaker 5 (20:50):
Yeah, and yeah, I mean he brought up Alex Smith
in both cases today. Yeah, I mean he brought him
up in terms of Daniel Jones for the short term
and then for the long term. He obviously brought him
up for Anthony Richards.
Speaker 2 (21:03):
That's so weird. By the way, that is so weird.
Have there any.
Speaker 1 (21:07):
Examples in the past of other team I'm sure there
is somewhere having to deal with similar things. I know
that that is just kind of the purgatory that you
exist as a part of when you have a quarterback
situation so many years like this, But man, this seems
like that this is something that hasn't happened very often,
that we're once again seeing this team go through.
Speaker 5 (21:30):
No, and I would just say largely for Ballard's sake
in that resume, you know, with Miami being the Week
one team, I try to if you know, I can
watch whatever, you know, the opposing head coach, you know,
opposing players, see if they say anything of note, and
the weekly up to it. And I did see Miami's GM.
Chris Greer was talking today after cuts, just like Ballard,
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and Greer has actually been the job for one year
longer than Ballard. His resume is is really similar. Three
playoff appearances I believe it is in his nine years
and and and no playoff wins. No, I don't think
any division titles either, So, you know, listening to the
tone there, it was very reminiscent of what we saw
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with Ballard of you know, again, when you have this
type of resume so far. Now, the difference between career
and Ballad right now is, you know, quarterback wise too
has proven he could play. It's just stay healthy, whereas
obviously the case here in Indy is you don't know
if your quarterback can play or stay healthy. So that
is different. And Miamis had to playoffs two out of
the last three years. You know, that's a little bit
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different from recent momentum. Then where the where the cults
are at right now. So I did find that interesting.
I guess you could label the Week one game as
you know, two organizations that have accepted mediocrity from their GM.
Speaker 1 (22:46):
Well, you and I both on the same page with
the bar is set so low, and there is such
a Week one opportunity to take advantage of that. If
you're Daniel Jones, if you're this offense and really from
top to bottom in Week one, keV, if you're this
colts team, this is a golden opportunity that you can't
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jack up to me in Week one.
Speaker 5 (23:10):
Yeah, I mean's sitting right there for you. Obviously Miami
has had, you know, similar questions. Mike McDaniel's probably on
a similar hot seat. Yeah, the secondary injury. You know
they claim Juju Brents today. I mean, so they, you know,
are taking I guess your casts off is want to
label it as that and thinking that, you know, he
could maybe play and play a lot in Week one,
whereas the culture doing the reverse of it. They're taking
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Xavian Howard and he's gonna.
Speaker 1 (23:34):
You know, play the battle of the debriefings right here.
Who's going to debrief the player better?
Speaker 2 (23:39):
Yeah? That's great.
Speaker 5 (23:40):
Yeah, it is. It is kind of funny, and I
mean even like a little thing of you know, they're
very established kicker. Jason Sanders got hurt a few weeks
ago and he's going to be out for that game.
They're doing the old uh, the old Kicker tour here,
So yeah, it's a yeah, I'm not trying to steal
your thunder by any means, but if you were going
to rank the most important games, oh.
Speaker 1 (24:03):
You're going to get me excited on this Labor Day weekend.
So right here, let's say it. Let's hear a buddy.
Speaker 5 (24:08):
Come on, yeah, come on, outside of the Houston, outside
of the two Houston games, which those happen to be
late in the year, and who the hell knows what
will be the case post things giving there aren't two
bigger games in Miami and Denver out of the game.
And it's just and part of it is because you
know who they are in the sense of okay, if
you take the cultism middeling team in the AFC this year, well,
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Denver Miami, you are probably two teams that are going
to be in the mix of that as well. So
you know, and this gets back to the words of
Ballard today of And I don't know if I should
admit this, but I found myself during the press conference
like I'm like, there's just only so much he can say, Like,
unless the wins starts to happen, there's eight years and
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now going to be a ninth year of evidence to
go off of, and at that point you can only
talk your way out of so much of it. If
that's kind of the game that you're looking for.
Speaker 2 (25:05):
Today, Yeah, it's weird.
Speaker 1 (25:07):
It's almost like you're in a spot right now where
you go, Yeah, whatever happens at this point happens, and
you're just really fortunate to have lasted to a point
where very few, if any, have gone with the lack
of results. Kevin Bowen in the Morning Show joins us
so Andy Moore Automatic Group Hootline. What happened to Mike
(25:28):
Weiner in that situation? Do you know did Rick Carlisle
call you up and tell you no?
Speaker 3 (25:34):
He did not.
Speaker 5 (25:36):
Yeah, I was surprised by that.
Speaker 1 (25:38):
The wording of it was weird. Did you know the
wording have mutually parted ways?
Speaker 3 (25:44):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (25:45):
And I would say it was one of the more
thorough and complimentary press releases I've ever seen about the
phrase mutually parting ways like that is a phrase that
people use a lot to describe breakups some professional sports,
and oftentimes it's met with not necessarily a good thing
or maybe not a general agreement, like we'll slow, we're
(26:07):
gonna say a mutual party in a ways, but we
don't really mean that deep down. And I thought Rick's
quote was very long and super complimentary of that. And
then I don't know if you saw, but Stephen Simon tweeted,
you know, he called Mike Winer like a rock star
on Twitter. I mean, how many times does the owner yeah,
say that about a a party coach? So I mean
this in all sincerity. I don't, you know, a month
(26:30):
before training camp starting. I hope everything's okay with Mike
Winer and his family and all that, because that happened
on Friday. You know, here we are on Wednesday, and
it's not like, oh yeah, by the way, Mike Winder's
taking a job with insert team here. You know, sometimes
you do see that. So yeah, I hope everything is good.
I think, and this is not me with Rick, but
I think, you know, even some people internally on that
(26:51):
staff were very much caught off guard by it. And
haven't gotten a ton of clarity with that either. So yeah,
I hope everything's good Mike and his family, And because
he certainly was a close colleague of Rick Carlisle's and
someone that he clearly trusted, and I think got staff
in general had an immense amount of respect for him.
Speaker 1 (27:10):
Yeah, And I just I am a fan of continuity
and with that group especially, and you know, obviously they're
going to be missing some pieces this year, and you
thought that, and you know, Jim Boyle, it's fine moving
up to the front. We know that to be true,
but just kind of weird.
Speaker 2 (27:29):
The timing.
Speaker 1 (27:29):
I believe that was on a late Friday, was it not, too,
which it makes it a little more odd.
Speaker 5 (27:34):
Yeah, which again, you know, if you fall into the
old professional sports, Yeah, press release, there's a lot of
people call that the old Friday news dump, but like
nothing about the press release red news dump. I mean
it was yeah, I mean, it was beyond complimentary of him,
and so yeah, that's where I just didn't add up.
And to your point, you know, the continuity, assuming they
all were going to be back, I mean, you don't
(27:55):
oftentimes find teams with the positive trajectory league wise, praise
like the Pacers have earned and you still are having
Jenny Boost, Lloyd Pierce, and Mike Winer all together, Like
that's you don't see that in bro sports. You know
other people you know, nab those coaches and Winer. I
think it was reported he turned down a gig with
(28:16):
Mike Brown. This, you know, just a couple weeks prior
to all of this, So yeah, I wish I had
more for you.
Speaker 1 (28:24):
So did you work out Mike Hilton today? And are
you working out Anthony Walker Junior, the former Coats linebacker tomorrow?
Speaker 2 (28:31):
Is that what I hear? Overall West fifty six? Are
you over there doing it?
Speaker 5 (28:36):
I will certainly. I don't believe I'm gonna be long
doing any sort of working out, but yes, it does
sound like they're gonna be working out. I think quite
a few descenders I interpreted Chris Dower correctly. They did
claim a linebacker today from the Jags, so now they
have five on their roster. But yeah, Anthony Walker, that
(28:56):
would be another former Colts draft pick brought brought, So yeah,
we'll see how that plays back. If it does, I
ain't curious that linebacker. You know, they're definitely gonna be
Joe Botchi next to Sire Franklin and how much will
they rotate there? In Week one? I think got the
position group. I got a lot of questions about Yeah.
Speaker 2 (29:12):
There is true too.
Speaker 5 (29:13):
Hey.
Speaker 2 (29:14):
By the way, I don't know if you saw this
or not.
Speaker 1 (29:15):
CBS Sports had Fernando Mendoza I either quarterback projected as
number one overall in twenty twenty six NFL Draft.
Speaker 2 (29:23):
Did you see that?
Speaker 5 (29:24):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (29:24):
I did?
Speaker 5 (29:26):
I mean wow, I mean I know, I think i'd
heard how you paid nearly three million forms. Yeah, I
mean I know there was a lot of hype, but
I didn't realize like to that degree.
Speaker 2 (29:38):
Yeah, that's that's big time right there.
Speaker 5 (29:40):
Like I saw someone drop drop the homes and I'm like,
oh my god.
Speaker 1 (29:46):
We're talking about the other day. You got nes Meyer,
Drew Aller the Penn State what uh?
Speaker 3 (29:53):
What uh?
Speaker 1 (29:53):
The Sellers dude from South Carolina is another one too.
So I mean, obviously everybody always goes with me, but
there's no truth to the rumor that he's going to
come out next year. So I just found it interesting
that his name was the top of that particular list
with that group of quarterbacks right there. We'll see how
that plays out, keV. What you guys got coming up
tomorrow morning, Brother.
Speaker 5 (30:14):
We'll certainly recap a lot of this ballad tom though.
We've kind of done our college football tours around the state,
which I know you have as well in recent weeks.
So we did a little another name today IU Tuesday.
We'll get a little predue action coming up tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (30:26):
All right.
Speaker 1 (30:27):
How about Indianapolis and Marion. Shout out to those two
football programs meeting tomorrow. That's awesome, by the way.
Speaker 5 (30:34):
Yeah, and that's at Marion.
Speaker 1 (30:36):
It is, Yes, DoD McCauley, the voice of Marion, who's
a good dude, by the way, that is awesome. I
love there doing that. That's great.
Speaker 5 (30:44):
My best friends he used to play basketball at iepu
on and I used to listen to Scott McCauley a
whole Yeah, he always enjoyed his calle there. So yeah,
I think it's a fun one there and should have
an excellent weather for the old southsiders versus a near
west side.
Speaker 1 (30:58):
We have a former Marion quarterback that plays basketball with
us on Sunday mornings. Really yeah, Adam Weezy. Adam Weezy
is his name.
Speaker 5 (31:08):
Wheezy now, I don't know how much he wanted to
share on this, but I heard maybe the guy that's
in the studio with me from seven to ten got
a little chirpye on the floor.
Speaker 2 (31:17):
He got chirpy, he did. He got a little salt
and talked a little junk he did.
Speaker 5 (31:22):
Okay, like he earned the right to talk. That junk
were good.
Speaker 2 (31:28):
Yeah, I didn't. I think that.
Speaker 1 (31:30):
I think he was a little bit more serious than
what the other side was, you know what I mean,
because yeah, I think he was. I think he was
taking it. He was escalating it to where the other
guy just thought was kind of fun. Nobody got mad
or anything, but he was getting chirpy.
Speaker 3 (31:43):
He was.
Speaker 5 (31:46):
He definitely talks in the studios, so I'm glad to
hear it. He was doing a little bit on the
court as well.
Speaker 1 (31:51):
He is showing up, which is really good, and he's
saying he's showing up and then he actually shows up, which.
Speaker 2 (31:56):
Is really good.
Speaker 1 (31:57):
So yeah, awesome, all right, brotherppreciate You'll be listening tomorrow morning.
More on the Colts in the NFL right now from
ESPN or the Andy Moore Automotive Group Potline, the former
quarterback you know him well. Dani Rolofsky is with us. Hey, Dan,
thank you very much for the time.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
How are you.
Speaker 3 (00:11):
I'm doing great. Good to be with you, Bud.
Speaker 1 (00:12):
I want to start with Daniel Jones. How do you
feel this is going to work out? Because I have
kind of put this up as week number one. The
bar is low. Miami is a team here that can
be had. You can get off I think to a
good start. What do you think about the combination with quarterback, offense,
head coach and the like with the situation here in
(00:36):
Indy going into this year.
Speaker 3 (00:38):
Yeah, in regards to Daniel, I mean, expectations aren't incredibly high.
You know. It's it's and it's not a knock on Daniel,
it's just, you know, they're not a ton of high
end potential indoor excitement. It's one of the reasons if
you go back to when he was the sixth pick
of the draft, you're like, wait, what So that being said,
there's a ton of talent on the simeter, specifically for Indy,
(01:01):
and that's always gonna be a huge impact. You know,
I'd say this. You know, I know Miami has gone
through some turmo and some change this offseason and whatnot,
and has lost some players, but that defense really started
to play well down at the back half of the
stretch last year. They're not completely healthy when if you
look at the potential of names, but they'll challenge Indie offensively,
(01:23):
for sure. It's a group that's really good on the
back end as far as talent. Anthony Weaver, their defensive
coordinators very bright, comes from Baltimore, so wants to try
and stop the run with lesser people down near the football,
So they will if they're capable of doing that. They
will challenge Daniel and the perimeter guys versus sticky coverage.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
How do you compare what the Colts have as a
supporting offensive cast for Daniel Jones to start the season
compared to that.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
Of what he had while with the Giants.
Speaker 3 (01:54):
Oh, significantly greater, you know, from top to bottom. I
would tell you offensive line wise is probably the biggest difference.
You know, He's the offensive line in India is a
much better unit than what he had in New York.
And then he's never had the depth of people that
he has in Indie right now. You know, I think
that's the thing. But I've talked about a lot this
(02:15):
offseason in specific to the quarterback spot, is you know,
maybe Indy doesn't have that one name that is that
high end, top ten player at the position, but there's
four or five pretty darn good perimeter players and they
all have pretty specific roles and pretty unique skill sets
that you know, I think you can do a lot
of things with. So it's a much much higher end
(02:36):
group than you know, he's ever had.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
Dan or Alaskia of ESPN, former NFL quarterback you again
know him well. He's kind enough to join us on
the Andy Moore Automotive Group potline. Surprised, disappointed. What's the
feeling about going into year three with Anthony Richardson here
and he being the backup quarterback in Week one?
Speaker 3 (02:55):
Yeah, I'm not surprised. You know. The one thing that
came evidence and I had said this was like it
was the most difficult quarterback situation and decision in the league,
you know that Shankstiching and group had to make. Because
I understand it in ways, because it's not my job
on the line. They have to all win and play well.
And so you're sitting there going, well, who gives us
(03:17):
the best chance to at least have a chance, you know,
and it's not going to beat ourselves that often. And
see you lean Daniel, and I just go back to
those perimeter players and I can understand them sitting around
in a room going Okay, you know, we've got a
d Mitchell and Alec Pierce and Michael Pittman Junior and
Tyler Warren and Josh Downs and Jonathan Taylor, like we
just need a guy to facilitate, and Daniel's more equipped
(03:41):
to do that. And so you sit there and go
understand it, and then a part of me goes I,
you know, I get frustrated and disappointed, and I don't
understand it, because what is it going to bring you?
If Daniel peaks, it's going to get you to nine
and eight, ten and seven. And you're still like, okay, cool,
you know, And again my job's on the line, so
it's easier for me to say that disappointed that Anthony
(04:03):
didn't take advantage of the opportunity coming off of the
benching of last year. And you know, the declaration when
you assign Daniel, you're making a very clear message or
sending one like hey, dude, it's time to put up.
And you know, with some of the injury and you know,
mispractice time in the spring, and then obviously the training
camp shot with the pinky, it's just disappointing. Obviously, I'm
(04:24):
someone who believed in his talent, and I still believe
in the talent. But you know, he's in that very
tough spot where, yeah, he has to play, he's just
so far behind in his football life and reps. You know,
he's I said this on NFL Live when it happened,
it was cj Bnick. You got five thousand reps in
(04:45):
college in the NFL combined. Anthony's at like seventeen hundred.
So he's just missing three four seasons of repetitions and
he's obviously not going to get on the bench, and
you get it's fair to question, like, is is he
ever going to get it to get up to speed?
Speaker 1 (05:00):
Dan? You have the opinion now that if he ever
does evolve into the type of quarterback that you thought
he could be, others thought he could be, that it's
going to be someplace else other than Andy.
Speaker 4 (05:12):
Yeah, naturally, My thought goes, yes, But I mean, you've
covered this league a long time, I'm sure, and things
happen in this league, and you have no idea what
Daniel's going to do this year.
Speaker 3 (05:24):
And Daniel could go out and play well, then you
can go out and struggle. Dan, you could go out
and get hurt. He's got injury history. It touched himself,
and so I hope that the opportunity presents itself somewhere
for Anthony, and then you know, he's got to take
full advantage of being on the field and staying on
the field and playing his best. But unless Daniel, you know,
suffers an injury, really struggles, I would assume that it's elsewhere.
Speaker 1 (05:48):
Yes, I just I don't know how could you just
explained the dynamic here. You know, he needs the reps,
he needs the time, but you're not going to get
it as the backup quarterback because Jones is going to
get all those reps in practice, So you're really not
going to see it thing. And basically what you're counting
on is doing something that you've done a lot of
in the first two years that clearly hasn't helped you,
you know, ascend to the job. Of being the starting
(06:10):
quarterback in week number one and number three. So what
good does all this do? I guess is what I'm
getting to.
Speaker 3 (06:16):
Not much, you know, not much. You know, it's and
it's the I guess. One of the things that makes
it most disappointing is when you when he has had
the opportunity to play and get on the field and
stay healthy, there's been there's been glimpses of like yeah,
you know, and and it just he hasn't put it
together together, and so I yeah, the premise is like, okay,
what are we doing?
Speaker 5 (06:35):
You know?
Speaker 3 (06:35):
And that's why my initial thought is like full of
doubt when it comes to is it over in Indie?
But you know, Dan, you can go out in week
one and that that position you just never know. And
so you know, again, unless something happens to him, it
feels unlikely, but the opportunity can always present itself and
(06:58):
then it's a new point. But he's not going to
get better being the number two quarterback. No, he will
not not getting not to the point where he fulfills
his potential.
Speaker 1 (07:09):
I know you got a run quickly here, Dan, but
one final thing should I've kind of held both ends
accountable here. I'm as disappointed with the lack of evolution
with coaching him up as I am with Anthony Richardson
trying to learn it and then put it to good
use on the field. Where are you with that combination?
Is it more about coaching or lack thereof or about
the player himself as to why he's not reached what
(07:31):
we thought could be his potential.
Speaker 3 (07:33):
No, I mean it's always both, right. Obviously, coming off
with some of the reports of last year, you know,
he's got to carry a big, big burden when it
comes to his development or lack thereof. It's also this
everybody knew one. He was incredibly young when he came
out of Florida. Youth leads to immaturity there, you know,
(07:56):
the youth leads to not knowing, And so I don't
know if it was the best now that I look
back on it, you know, consumed by the x's and
o's combination that him and Shane we're going to have together,
But you know, was the three or four year plan
really the best for him? When it comes to he's
(08:16):
going to play All the snaps obviously injuries were part
of it, but he's gonna play We're not gonna worry
about winning. We're only worried about getting him, you know,
to all the snaps and experiencing needs, and then you know,
putting the right people around him as far as mentorship
and leadership and veteran elements. So you know, it's a
very young offense, specifically on the perimeter. So I'm not
(08:36):
trying to make excuses for Anthony. He's got his hand
in it, but it certainly is is everybody's included in
it absolutely.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
Uh Denner Lasky ESPN does CNFL a O lout of
college football in general. Conversation on the Andy Moore on
Imotive Group Paul and I know you have to run.
I appreciate you hopping on here today and we'll we'll
gather your thoughts again.
Speaker 2 (08:54):
What's the regular seasons underway?
Speaker 3 (08:57):
And you're going to be with you, budd Bey will
appreciate that.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
Deaneral Lofki, did you notice what he just said right
there at the end. I love that.
Speaker 1 (09:05):
So I'll let you in on something. When I say
the Andy Moore Automotive Group potline, sometimes the guests believe
that's me. Kevin Boone is with us now. So I
just saw you in the hallway. What the hell is
happening here? Why are you on the phone.
Speaker 5 (09:22):
Yeah, I have a question for you as well. Yeah,
but yeah, I gotta grab Max bow in here by
four point thirty. So I thought, okay, let's multitats, let's
drive and let's chat here with John and I always
enjoy these Wednesday convoes. But my question was, what's the
backpack doing in the hallway? Why not bring a backpack
(09:44):
in studio.
Speaker 2 (09:45):
I've got two of them. I don't know why I
don't bring it in here. Isn't it weird? I have
no idea. I put it in that chair out there
and leave it every day. That's weird.
Speaker 5 (09:54):
I walked by it like an hour ago.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
I'm like, oh, there it is, John.
Speaker 5 (09:58):
You know it out there til Jake's John, and then
I'll walk in stee you and then I'm yeah, then
you're out there digging for pins. All of a sudden,
I'm like, just just just keep that in the studio.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
I could just do it, put it in there. I
don't know why I do that.
Speaker 1 (10:10):
Maybe it's just kind of the break the monotony to
walk out for a minute and then walk back in.
Speaker 2 (10:15):
You do that in the morning, do you walk out
of the studio.
Speaker 5 (10:19):
Well, there are definitely times where I think I should
probably need a break from those three that I'm that
I'm in there with, So maybe I should probably entertain
a little bit more of that. I'm not a big walker,
you know. I I drink usually, Usually I'm about two
cups of coffee and a good amount of water. Yeah,
I just got to pee a lot, honestly. Yeah, so
that's that's what I'm doing. I'm just I'm probably peeing,
(10:40):
you know, once an hour during the morning.
Speaker 2 (10:42):
How about you overnight? I am I'm like a water
slide in my track now.
Speaker 5 (10:50):
I know. I'm a little nervous. I brought this up
on air, and I think it was we all of
a sudden, we went from you know, being the porter
potty to talk about my prostate a lot. I feel
like I'm a little bit more at night than the
thirty five year old should be. So I'd say I'm
easily a one and probably twice a night. Yeah, no, No, I.
Speaker 2 (11:13):
Take the over on me right there. I may.
Speaker 1 (11:16):
I may do it at night more than the Colts
end up winning games this season.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
Take the over on it. Yeah, I can't help a
little bit.
Speaker 5 (11:29):
More around like produced probably win loss over under than
I am around the Colts win loss over under.
Speaker 2 (11:35):
Yeah. It.
Speaker 1 (11:36):
Kevin Bowen joins us from the Morning Show and the
Andy Moore Automotive Group Hotline. I do want to double
back at the ballot press conference earlier today because it's
it's kind of interesting the dynamic. I didn't feel that
he was any different or any more salty than.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
He normally was.
Speaker 1 (11:54):
Now again, I had him a couple of years ago
at the Combine, and I don't know if he could
have been more salty in the twenty minutes we were
together there. Not so much anymore, but certainly at that
point in time, that was a level of salty. I
just I think that is a personality he is comfortable with.
(12:14):
And I think much of the entitlement he talked about
some of these guys got a year ago that they
were trying to work out of this organization and make
guys work for it. I think that also entitlement wise
comes across in some of his dialogue to you guys agree, Yeah, I.
Speaker 5 (12:31):
Could not agree more. I got asked by several people like,
oh my gosh, he's so defensive and he's so. So
I'm like, is this your first crispout breath conference yea
waking or certainly the first one in the last couple
of years. To me, there's no difference, you know, Honestly, John,
I was had I don't know if apathetics right word,
(12:52):
but like, I wasn't expecting a lot from the presser today,
and there's been a lot of times with ballot pressers
that I have accepted a lot, and I think all
some times again he compared him to other gms. I
think largely you get a good amount of candor with it.
It might not be exactly what you want to hear
or maybe the tone you want to hear it, but
you do get that from him. But generally I thought
(13:13):
today he would back Anthony Richardson like no other with
his words, and he did that, and at some point
he would get frustrated with the quarterback questions, and you know,
I went back and listened to it on my way
back from the complex, and I want to say it
was like minute thirteen or fourteen, where you know, he
did bring up the line of hey, you know, there
are fifty one other guys on the roster there and
(13:36):
you know he did it in a usual ballad way,
but you know, outside of that, I didn't think. I
think he usually is a little bit on edge in
this press conference more than others because the season is
about to start and you know, all of that leads
to you know, just hey, it's bleeper, get off the pod.
(13:56):
And obviously his you know, resume would lend to that
carry on a little bit more weight than others. But yeah,
I thought it was a pretty normal ballad to be
honest with you.
Speaker 1 (14:06):
Do you think that he does get a in his
responses the entitlement that he has been given, because, let's
face it, I mean, most guys with the results in
that position and all these guys know this is nothing
new across the board of the NFL. He'd probably had
come and gone three different times during his tenure here
(14:26):
with these results or lack thereof. Is there a bit
of entitlement there and being comfortable in a gig that
he has been able to sustain as a part of
without showing the results that normally would be necessary at
that level.
Speaker 5 (14:43):
Yeah, there is probably a little bit of that. I've
always felt, I mean year one throughout year nine. Now
that he is naturally an extremely comfortable human when we
get into those sorts of settings. So, and I don't
think anything has largely changed that. I mean, again, maybe
at times it's a little bit more on edge with questions,
(15:06):
but I don't think, you know, that has changed too
too much over the years. I just think for the
most part, he considers himself pretty smooth in those situations.
You know, it reminds me a little bit of Brian
Kelly from a college football sense, where Shane Stiken he's
(15:27):
just trying to talk pretty much as sass he can
to get the press conference over with. You know that.
That's kind of how I view those two in terms
of media setting settings there. So yeah, I just think
that's largely how he's wired.
Speaker 1 (15:41):
All Right, anything occur to you today. As far as
the whole quarterback situation. I did at the oddset bring
this up when he mentioned it's good in terms of
you know, Anthony Richardson, you know, working his way and
doing this and you know you're seeing progress. I'm sorry,
I don't care how many different ways you dressed this up.
(16:04):
This guy not starting in week number one of year
number three is about as far from good as you
can get.
Speaker 6 (16:13):
Yeah, I was curious, like would he go back to
you know, just kind of the Monday through Saturday off
the field stuff, and you know, he downplayed a lot
of that.
Speaker 5 (16:25):
And really wouldn't even go there at all, you know,
and at times last year, I guess I'd have to
go back and read his comments. But obviously in the
season that was an issue in why he was benched there,
and so they seem to have kind of largely swept
that aspect under the rug. I mean again, there's so
many aspects or questions and the Anthony Richardson thing, you
almost forget about some of them at times, but they
(16:47):
seem to be more onto the you know, no, he's
got to, you know whatever, watch a pro in Daniel Jones' case,
I'm using VALA's words here, you know, operated the line
of scrimage and make checks and see how he goes
about things in meeting rooms and all of that. And
you know, again to me, you know, he had sat
(17:09):
in meeting rooms nineteen times now Richardson in his two
years and not played in that game seventeen of a
dude to injury to due to benching, you know, how
many more games than he did. Does he need know, seventeen.
On top of that, he needs thirty six games of
sitting and watching. I mean again, I find me success
stories around the league that had that much of it,
(17:30):
and not to mention he had so little from a
college resume standpoint. And you know, again, Alex, if you
took a shot today, every time Alex Smith's name was mentioned, yeah,
I mean, you'd be drunk until Saturday. But you know,
when he brings up Alex Smith for the Richardson comp,
you know, did it take Alex Smith a while to
(17:51):
kind of get on firm ground in the NFL.
Speaker 2 (17:53):
Yeah, I think.
Speaker 5 (17:54):
That's very fair. The problem with the Richardson comp is
we've never seen Anthony Richardson have a good stretch of football,
and I would define stretches six games we've never seen
that we haven't seen in the NFL, and we didn't
see it at Florida. In his one year of starting,
Alex Smith was a Heisman Trophy finalist at Utah. He
(18:16):
had one of the best seasons you know, really a
quarterbacks put up in quite some time, and that real
back twenty years and this was pre you know a
lot of these video game numbers. The college quarterbacks can
can put up nowadays, he was a number one overall pick. Like,
you know, that is not what Richardson did at Florida.
I mean it was a very up and down betting
(18:37):
on the potential and the good of that, knowing full
well you're going to tap into, knowing full well. The
hope is that he's had that of that. But again,
like the Baker Mayfield comps about as made before, like
the Sam Donald toss before you know, Baker won the
Heisman Trophy. Sam Donald threw for you know, four thousand
yards and one of the best conferences in college football.
(18:58):
We still have yet to see Richardson do it. And
so I think that's where I struggle with it. But
you know, there's also part of me, John, and this
kind of goes back to maybe to the start of
the conversation and why I didn't walk into that press
room today overly, I guess eager to hear what Bout
had to say. When you have that resume going into
(19:18):
year nine, what can you say? Yeah, Like there was
a quote he had at one point where he goes,
you know, and he's asked quite often about, hey, why
should fans believe blah blah blah, okay, but he had
a quote that I thought was the perfect quote. It was, well,
they're gonna believe if you win, and if you lose,
then you're not They're not going to believe in you.
(19:41):
And I thought that was a very simplified way to
say it. And yes, you know, actions speaks so much
more than words, and I get it at times you
do want to hear words that are different. I just
don't know what those words would have been. Maybe if
he would have fallen on the sword and said, you
know what, we screwed up Anthony day one and you
should have bought him around slowly, and I should have
(20:02):
signed you know, veteran quarterbacks that have been in the
league for ten years, and he should have started, and
Anthony should have watched it. Maybe those would have been
the words.
Speaker 3 (20:10):
But with this.
Speaker 5 (20:11):
Resume, it just feels like there's an element of we're
just going through the motions.
Speaker 2 (20:15):
keV. Here's what's word to me.
Speaker 1 (20:17):
You just went through the dialogue of quarterback comparisons and
bringing up Alex Smith as he did today or in
the past, Baker Mayfield, and I'll be damned, most of
the time, I don't know which quarterback here you're talking about,
which makes it all that much worse. Seriously, I don't
know if you're talking are you talking about Daniel Jones
or or Anthony Richards? Which one are you talking about?
That's how bad, that's how bad this is. Right now
(20:40):
we get a loss to the shuffle, which which quarterback
you're making a comp to that you know is still
trying to learn or may need a change in scenery.
Speaker 5 (20:50):
Yeah, and yeah, I mean he brought up Alex Smith
in both cases today. Yeah, I mean he brought him
up in terms of Daniel Jones for the short term
and then for the long term. He obviously brought him
up for Anthony Richards.
Speaker 2 (21:03):
That's so weird. By the way, that is so weird.
Have there any.
Speaker 1 (21:07):
Examples in the past of other team I'm sure there
is somewhere having to deal with similar things. I know
that that is just kind of the purgatory that you
exist as a part of when you have a quarterback
situation so many years like this, But man, this seems
like that this is something that hasn't happened very often,
that we're once again seeing this team go through.
Speaker 5 (21:30):
No, and I would just say largely for Ballard's sake
in that resume, you know, with Miami being the Week
one team, I try to if you know, I can
watch whatever, you know, the opposing head coach, you know,
opposing players, see if they say anything of note, and
the weekly up to it. And I did see Miami's GM.
Chris Greer was talking today after cuts, just like Ballard,
(21:50):
and Greer has actually been the job for one year
longer than Ballard. His resume is is really similar. Three
playoff appearances I believe it is in his nine years
and and and no playoff wins. No, I don't think
any division titles either, So, you know, listening to the
tone there, it was very reminiscent of what we saw
(22:11):
with Ballard of you know, again, when you have this
type of resume so far. Now, the difference between career
and Ballad right now is, you know, quarterback wise too
has proven he could play. It's just stay healthy, whereas
obviously the case here in Indy is you don't know
if your quarterback can play or stay healthy. So that
is different. And Miamis had to playoffs two out of
the last three years. You know, that's a little bit
(22:32):
different from recent momentum. Then where the where the cults
are at right now. So I did find that interesting.
I guess you could label the Week one game as
you know, two organizations that have accepted mediocrity from their GM.
Speaker 1 (22:46):
Well, you and I both on the same page with
the bar is set so low, and there is such
a Week one opportunity to take advantage of that. If
you're Daniel Jones, if you're this offense and really from
top to bottom in Week one, keV, if you're this
colts team, this is a golden opportunity that you can't
(23:07):
jack up to me in Week one.
Speaker 5 (23:10):
Yeah, I mean's sitting right there for you. Obviously Miami
has had, you know, similar questions. Mike McDaniel's probably on
a similar hot seat. Yeah, the secondary injury. You know
they claim Juju Brents today. I mean, so they, you know,
are taking I guess your casts off is want to
label it as that and thinking that, you know, he
could maybe play and play a lot in Week one,
whereas the culture doing the reverse of it. They're taking
(23:32):
Xavian Howard and he's gonna.
Speaker 1 (23:34):
You know, play the battle of the debriefings right here.
Who's going to debrief the player better?
Speaker 2 (23:39):
Yeah? That's great.
Speaker 5 (23:40):
Yeah, it is. It is kind of funny, and I
mean even like a little thing of you know, they're
very established kicker. Jason Sanders got hurt a few weeks
ago and he's going to be out for that game.
They're doing the old uh, the old Kicker tour here,
So yeah, it's a yeah, I'm not trying to steal
your thunder by any means, but if you were going
to rank the most important games, oh.
Speaker 1 (24:03):
You're going to get me excited on this Labor Day weekend.
So right here, let's say it. Let's hear a buddy.
Speaker 5 (24:08):
Come on, yeah, come on, outside of the Houston, outside
of the two Houston games, which those happen to be
late in the year, and who the hell knows what
will be the case post things giving there aren't two
bigger games in Miami and Denver out of the game.
And it's just and part of it is because you
know who they are in the sense of okay, if
you take the cultism middeling team in the AFC this year, well,
(24:30):
Denver Miami, you are probably two teams that are going
to be in the mix of that as well. So
you know, and this gets back to the words of
Ballard today of And I don't know if I should
admit this, but I found myself during the press conference
like I'm like, there's just only so much he can say, Like,
unless the wins starts to happen, there's eight years and
(24:55):
now going to be a ninth year of evidence to
go off of, and at that point you can only
talk your way out of so much of it. If
that's kind of the game that you're looking for.
Speaker 2 (25:05):
Today, Yeah, it's weird.
Speaker 1 (25:07):
It's almost like you're in a spot right now where
you go, Yeah, whatever happens at this point happens, and
you're just really fortunate to have lasted to a point
where very few, if any, have gone with the lack
of results. Kevin Bowen in the Morning Show joins us
so Andy Moore Automatic Group Hootline. What happened to Mike
(25:28):
Weiner in that situation? Do you know did Rick Carlisle
call you up and tell you no?
Speaker 3 (25:34):
He did not.
Speaker 5 (25:36):
Yeah, I was surprised by that.
Speaker 1 (25:38):
The wording of it was weird. Did you know the
wording have mutually parted ways?
Speaker 3 (25:44):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (25:45):
And I would say it was one of the more
thorough and complimentary press releases I've ever seen about the
phrase mutually parting ways like that is a phrase that
people use a lot to describe breakups some professional sports,
and oftentimes it's met with not necessarily a good thing
or maybe not a general agreement, like we'll slow, we're
(26:07):
gonna say a mutual party in a ways, but we
don't really mean that deep down. And I thought Rick's
quote was very long and super complimentary of that. And
then I don't know if you saw, but Stephen Simon tweeted,
you know, he called Mike Winer like a rock star
on Twitter. I mean, how many times does the owner yeah,
say that about a a party coach? So I mean
this in all sincerity. I don't, you know, a month
(26:30):
before training camp starting. I hope everything's okay with Mike
Winer and his family and all that, because that happened
on Friday. You know, here we are on Wednesday, and
it's not like, oh yeah, by the way, Mike Winder's
taking a job with insert team here. You know, sometimes
you do see that. So yeah, I hope everything is good.
I think, and this is not me with Rick, but
I think, you know, even some people internally on that
(26:51):
staff were very much caught off guard by it. And
haven't gotten a ton of clarity with that either. So yeah,
I hope everything's good Mike and his family, And because
he certainly was a close colleague of Rick Carlisle's and
someone that he clearly trusted, and I think got staff
in general had an immense amount of respect for him.
Speaker 1 (27:10):
Yeah, And I just I am a fan of continuity
and with that group especially, and you know, obviously they're
going to be missing some pieces this year, and you
thought that, and you know, Jim Boyle, it's fine moving
up to the front. We know that to be true,
but just kind of weird.
Speaker 2 (27:29):
The timing.
Speaker 1 (27:29):
I believe that was on a late Friday, was it not, too,
which it makes it a little more odd.
Speaker 5 (27:34):
Yeah, which again, you know, if you fall into the
old professional sports, Yeah, press release, there's a lot of
people call that the old Friday news dump, but like
nothing about the press release red news dump. I mean
it was yeah, I mean, it was beyond complimentary of him,
and so yeah, that's where I just didn't add up.
And to your point, you know, the continuity, assuming they
all were going to be back, I mean, you don't
(27:55):
oftentimes find teams with the positive trajectory league wise, praise
like the Pacers have earned and you still are having
Jenny Boost, Lloyd Pierce, and Mike Winer all together, Like
that's you don't see that in bro sports. You know
other people you know, nab those coaches and Winer. I
think it was reported he turned down a gig with
(28:16):
Mike Brown. This, you know, just a couple weeks prior
to all of this, So yeah, I wish I had
more for you.
Speaker 1 (28:24):
So did you work out Mike Hilton today? And are
you working out Anthony Walker Junior, the former Coats linebacker tomorrow?
Speaker 2 (28:31):
Is that what I hear? Overall West fifty six? Are
you over there doing it?
Speaker 5 (28:36):
I will certainly. I don't believe I'm gonna be long
doing any sort of working out, but yes, it does
sound like they're gonna be working out. I think quite
a few descenders I interpreted Chris Dower correctly. They did
claim a linebacker today from the Jags, so now they
have five on their roster. But yeah, Anthony Walker, that
(28:56):
would be another former Colts draft pick brought brought, So yeah,
we'll see how that plays back. If it does, I
ain't curious that linebacker. You know, they're definitely gonna be
Joe Botchi next to Sire Franklin and how much will
they rotate there? In Week one? I think got the
position group. I got a lot of questions about Yeah.
Speaker 2 (29:12):
There is true too.
Speaker 5 (29:13):
Hey.
Speaker 2 (29:14):
By the way, I don't know if you saw this
or not.
Speaker 1 (29:15):
CBS Sports had Fernando Mendoza I either quarterback projected as
number one overall in twenty twenty six NFL Draft.
Speaker 2 (29:23):
Did you see that?
Speaker 5 (29:24):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (29:24):
I did?
Speaker 5 (29:26):
I mean wow, I mean I know, I think i'd
heard how you paid nearly three million forms. Yeah, I
mean I know there was a lot of hype, but
I didn't realize like to that degree.
Speaker 2 (29:38):
Yeah, that's that's big time right there.
Speaker 5 (29:40):
Like I saw someone drop drop the homes and I'm like,
oh my god.
Speaker 1 (29:46):
We're talking about the other day. You got nes Meyer,
Drew Aller the Penn State what uh?
Speaker 3 (29:53):
What uh?
Speaker 1 (29:53):
The Sellers dude from South Carolina is another one too.
So I mean, obviously everybody always goes with me, but
there's no truth to the rumor that he's going to
come out next year. So I just found it interesting
that his name was the top of that particular list
with that group of quarterbacks right there. We'll see how
that plays out, keV. What you guys got coming up
tomorrow morning, Brother.
Speaker 5 (30:14):
We'll certainly recap a lot of this ballad tom though.
We've kind of done our college football tours around the state,
which I know you have as well in recent weeks.
So we did a little another name today IU Tuesday.
We'll get a little predue action coming up tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (30:26):
All right.
Speaker 1 (30:27):
How about Indianapolis and Marion. Shout out to those two
football programs meeting tomorrow. That's awesome, by the way.
Speaker 5 (30:34):
Yeah, and that's at Marion.
Speaker 1 (30:36):
It is, Yes, DoD McCauley, the voice of Marion, who's
a good dude, by the way, that is awesome. I
love there doing that. That's great.
Speaker 5 (30:44):
My best friends he used to play basketball at iepu
on and I used to listen to Scott McCauley a
whole Yeah, he always enjoyed his calle there. So yeah,
I think it's a fun one there and should have
an excellent weather for the old southsiders versus a near
west side.
Speaker 1 (30:58):
We have a former Marion quarterback that plays basketball with
us on Sunday mornings. Really yeah, Adam Weezy. Adam Weezy
is his name.
Speaker 5 (31:08):
Wheezy now, I don't know how much he wanted to
share on this, but I heard maybe the guy that's
in the studio with me from seven to ten got
a little chirpye on the floor.
Speaker 2 (31:17):
He got chirpy, he did. He got a little salt
and talked a little junk he did.
Speaker 5 (31:22):
Okay, like he earned the right to talk. That junk
were good.
Speaker 2 (31:28):
Yeah, I didn't. I think that.
Speaker 1 (31:30):
I think he was a little bit more serious than
what the other side was, you know what I mean,
because yeah, I think he was. I think he was
taking it. He was escalating it to where the other
guy just thought was kind of fun. Nobody got mad
or anything, but he was getting chirpy.
Speaker 3 (31:43):
He was.
Speaker 5 (31:46):
He definitely talks in the studios, so I'm glad to
hear it. He was doing a little bit on the
court as well.
Speaker 1 (31:51):
He is showing up, which is really good, and he's
saying he's showing up and then he actually shows up, which.
Speaker 2 (31:56):
Is really good.
Speaker 1 (31:57):
So yeah, awesome, all right, brotherppreciate You'll be listening tomorrow morning.
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