August 8, 2025 • 38 mins
00:00 - 15:30 - James Boyd from The Fan Morning Show and The Athletic then joins the show! JMV and James discuss the Colts loss to the Ravens, the injury to Anthony Richardson, the continued struggles with tackling, and more!
15:31 - 38:43 - Joel A Erickson from the IndyStar joins the show to recap last night's Colts preseason opener! Joel and JMV discuss the Anthony Richardson injury, what we saw from the other QB’s on the roster, and more!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
But on the Andy Moore Automotive Group Hotline from the
Athletic and the Fan morning show, he was outstanding.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Also shooting a little hoop with me yesterday, and.
Speaker 1 (00:09):
He's going to be good to go for a little
five on five run coming up on Sunday morning at
Southport High School.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
Correct, James Boyd, that.
Speaker 3 (00:16):
Is correct, Thank god, the coldt practice in the afternoon.
Speaker 1 (00:19):
Finally, my brother, my brother, we're going, I believe, and
it will be at sale be Southward or Center Grove Central,
one of the two. But we will pick him up
and put him down coming up on Sunday morning. Hey,
great effort by you yesterday too. Makes you proud to
be around everybody that we work with, does it not?
In a situation liking Franklin at Legend yesterday?
Speaker 3 (00:43):
Absolutely, I got to put a lot of you know
names with faces you know you get on the email
list and I'm like, I don't know who happy people are.
So it was good to be out there and also
mingle with the listeners who wouldn't you know, I wouldn't
have the opportunity without them. So it's always pretty cool.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
All right.
Speaker 1 (00:59):
Thoughts about last night, he owned up to it being
his mistake. How much of it do you put it
all on Richardson? Is there some on stiking? And we're
still it doesn't really matter for it's preseason game one
or week number ten. A lot of this stuff that
we saw that were critical about today is stuff that
happens regardless of the time of the season.
Speaker 3 (01:19):
With this Colts team, Absolutely, I think the majority of
the blame has to fall on Richardson. From what I understand,
the protection or the defensive recognition he should have had
in the moment is something that a lot of quarterback
that I was reading today that have played in the NFL,
we're saying a pretty simple adjustment.
Speaker 4 (01:40):
Now.
Speaker 3 (01:40):
Obviously, players make mistakes, but the confounding part for Anthony
is that he might have made that mistake because he
hasn't had a ton of reps and then he gets
knocked out of the game, and what is.
Speaker 5 (01:52):
He missing more reps?
Speaker 3 (01:53):
So I only had six snaps last night, really seven
because they had one play called back. But I'll feel
for the young man, but I'm also happy that he
did not suffer a bigger injury.
Speaker 4 (02:02):
JMZ. You know, just Okay, the finger.
Speaker 3 (02:04):
Looks pretty bad early on, but I personally felt like
it wasn't that bad because he didn't freak out. If
he had broken his finger, I think he would have
been less calm than he was on the sideline and
probably would would have went back to the locker room
to get checked out even further.
Speaker 1 (02:18):
Yeah, I just to me, it's kind of more about
the same old, same old. That makes sense, all right,
lack of efficiency, bad decisions, unavailability. I mean, it's all
kind of the same thing. This is all kind of
rolled into one for him. He's most been known for
at least those three things, if not beyond absolutely.
Speaker 3 (02:41):
I think the biggest thing among those three things is
the unavailability, the injury prone nature of his career. And
the bottom line is for Anthony, you know, great person,
great human, and the coach believe he can be a
great player, but the thing that holds him back more
than anything is that he can't stay on the field
for a sending period of time. And even though last
night with probably pretty minor and in the regular season
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gang perhaps he goes back in.
Speaker 4 (03:05):
It's just the fact that.
Speaker 3 (03:06):
We're having this conversation again, DANV. I feel like you
can pick any day of the year any gang like
you said, and we're having this conversation about the guy
not being available, and at some point that's going to
dominate anything else you do, because what's the best availability
or ability is availability. As my high school coach always did, well.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
I'm going to put this again.
Speaker 1 (03:27):
We had to call her Anthony bringing up Shane Steichen,
and I'm going to also put this on on just
where organizationally they are. These are all these same things,
and we're talking about the quarterback situation, which is the same,
but you know, penalties, miss tackles, missed assignments, and certainly
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kind of a new wrinkle was just how awful special
teams were outside of you know, the new kicking situation
last night. I mean, a lot of these things we're
talking about. As I mentioned a little bit earlier, it
didn't matter if it's preseason, in game one. I mean, hell,
it could come in the middle of the regular season.
And it's still really what this Colt organization is most
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noted for right now, which is highly unfortunate.
Speaker 3 (04:14):
Yeah, I mean they're known for being mediocre, they're known
for not really winning. As the Lake I know the
Lake Jimmers love to mention being in the upper quartile,
but those days are gone.
Speaker 5 (04:23):
Man.
Speaker 3 (04:23):
Honestly, you know, since I've moved to Andy in twenty
twenty one, the Colts that I have known and watched
for the last few years very intently obviously just living
here now is a team that isn't good and consistently
isn't good.
Speaker 4 (04:36):
So I think last night was.
Speaker 3 (04:38):
Not really I guess you could say it's a step
forward because you got out there.
Speaker 4 (04:42):
For a real game, you can see what you can correct.
Speaker 3 (04:44):
But there was certainly some reflas throughout that some positive
stuff as well, you know, Tyler Warren being one of
those positives by Ady Mitchell had some nice moments as well.
Even Danie Jones had had.
Speaker 4 (04:54):
A couple of nice throws there. But overall, yeah, I.
Speaker 3 (04:57):
Wouldn't imagine if Saint Second is too pleased.
Speaker 4 (04:59):
With the execution part of it, because that's.
Speaker 3 (05:01):
You know, pre snap penalties and things like that. They
just can't afford those, because they're not a team that
can really survive in some of those third and long,
second and long situations. They're a team that needs every
single yard that they can get because the quarterback play,
in my opinion, jamb isn't good enough to really get
you out of a bunch of.
Speaker 1 (05:18):
Jams, and it isn't expected to be good enough to
get you out of these jams as well. You know
you mentioned Warree. I mentioned him. I expected that. I
think most of us did too. I'm probably gonna butcher
his last name, but Tuhimo Alawa. I thought he looked
good up until he got injured. Obviously, I thought he looked.
He looked really good. So you had a couple of
rookies that pop. Maybe Hunter Wohler is a guy than
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the secondary that people were talking about in Granted, there
are guys that weren't out there that you expect a
lot more defensively, but man, the one thing that has
been a carryover so far from what has been regimed
or regime from a defensive coordinator angle, has been they
missed some tackles, and they missed some tackles in a
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profound way.
Speaker 3 (06:05):
James, Yeah, I thought the run defense yesterday was not
good at all. And again, for those listening, I'm not
telling you something you don't know, but they're not using
their souped up offenses or defenses in preseason games. Honestly,
you probably see a lot more wrinkles in the joint
practices and even then your hold back. So all that
(06:25):
in mind, I just think that it's kind of embarrassing
to have the tackling effort that you've had on display
last night. And I do wonder does that put a
little bit of a bug in Chris Ballard's head to say, man,
maybe we do need to go get a veteran to
perhaps help that room, or someone who's proven they can
be a starter in this league, because right now, the
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only proven starter in the room is Aire Franklin. He's
coming back from left ankle surgery's still rehaving. But the
rest of them, I mean, Cameron mcgrome had a great
opportunity last night to kind of show that hey, I'm
a start, a caliber linebacker in this league, and I
thought he struggled because it fits some of the runs games.
I thought all the linebackers kind of did so not
great from a tackling standpoint, like you said, because the
Ravens didn't do anything specially, they just ran the ball.
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And then secondly, you know that special teams unit, man,
like the angles they had from those kickoff returns punt
returns un acceptable. And I know Brian Mason probably was
freaking out because he's a very serious guy, and I
tend him to get that corrected pretty quickly.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
Hey, next two days, Jase Boyd, by the way, joins
us something Andy Moore on the Motorcrew potline. Man D
Derek White, whom I know you know very well, just
brought over a bucket full of ice cold beer for me.
Speaker 2 (07:34):
James Boyd, Is that a good friend or what? Right there? Pal?
Speaker 5 (07:37):
What do you think?
Speaker 3 (07:38):
Yeah, he's a very nice guy. Had you have me
sign this PDR pitcher the other day? So I think
I was the last one of the bunch to get
my finisher on there. So I was, I guess, surrounded
by greatness in that regard. D. D.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
White is in the house.
Speaker 1 (07:53):
That's James Boyd of the Fan Morning Show said I
until today if you can catch him weekday mornings Monday
through Fred here on the Fan. He's on the Andy
Moore Automotive Group potline. So a lot has been asking me.
So the assumption here, and I know you got a
couple of days of practice you mentioned that Saturday and
Sunday for the colts. I'm assuming that the whole starter
(08:14):
and the rep mentality is going to be flipped considering
the circumstances of Richardson last night and what they had thought,
and maybe flip for game number two coming up a
week from tomorrow against Green Bay.
Speaker 4 (08:26):
I would think so, but I'm not so sure.
Speaker 3 (08:28):
I'm very curious to see how Anthony's hand responds to,
you know, having the finger dislocated and put back in.
From what I understand, he had some X rays done
on it and he.
Speaker 4 (08:37):
Find the day to day a little bit sore.
Speaker 3 (08:40):
But you know, what does that look like? Do they
limit him at all tomorrow?
Speaker 4 (08:44):
And they do have three straight practices.
Speaker 3 (08:46):
So I've been thinking do you limit on Tomorrow and
kind of wrap him up Sunday and Monday before you
have from off days Tuesday and Wednesday, and then going
into the joint practice Thursday. So I'm also curious Dan
bid like because of the joint practice on that Thursday,
depending on how many reps each quarterback gets, does that,
you know, change your mind? Do you stick with the
original plan having Daniel Jones start, do you flip it?
(09:07):
I mean, there's a lot of questions you have to have,
but this is what happens when Anthony Richardson is involved.
You kind of have to get creative because it never
really goes as it's supposed to go or as it's
plan unfortunately.
Speaker 1 (09:19):
Yeah, James Boyd with us, I still say this, he's
going to be that Week one starter. Like you mentioned
a couple of nice throws by Daniel Jones, he didn't
come in and there's no oh wow for me. I mean,
he kind of did what I think he's capable and
should be capable of doing, and you know, nothing really
(09:41):
more than that.
Speaker 2 (09:42):
What say you?
Speaker 4 (09:44):
Yeah, I would agree.
Speaker 3 (09:45):
I was saying he had a couple of nice thros.
Now I can follow it up by saying he had
a couple of nights not so nice throws. There's some
drops in there as well, But I think to Daniel
Jones experienced yesterday was kind of what I've come to expect.
He's okay to you know, possibly above average quarterback in
the NFL. I mean, if you're looking back at that
one season they made the playoff with the Giants, but
(10:05):
I was a surprise best performance at all. And I
do agree with you, JAMV. I think that Anthony richardson
Field will start Week one barring a severe injury, because,
in my opinion, if you bench him before the season starts.
If you tell him you don't have a chance to
be our guy to start.
Speaker 4 (10:20):
The season, I think you're telling him that this is
the end.
Speaker 3 (10:23):
Now people can debate on when will be his last
game for the franchise or what that would look like,
but effectively, that would be the end of the Anthony
Richardson era because to me, you're telling him I don't
believe in you, and we're gonna roll with this other guy, who,
by the way, isn't our long term answer either because
he's on a one year deal, so it's a lot
of stakes.
Speaker 4 (10:40):
But again, Anthony cannot.
Speaker 3 (10:42):
Continue to have these setbacks physically. Otherwise Daniel Jones is
gonna win a job by the fall. I mean, if
you had a shoulder in the spring to shut you down,
you got a finger last night, you don't need to
have anything else happening before now in the season.
Speaker 1 (10:55):
All Right, I mentioned this Spencer Strader I thought did
kind of what he needed to do. He didn't like
go consistently. Had that miss from what fifty plus I
think whatever it was. Yeah, had a long hit from
fifty three. That's okay, but he did kind of remind
me of what they had, I guess at a cheaper version,
(11:18):
right with Strader.
Speaker 2 (11:19):
Did he remind you of that last night? A little bit,
Matt Gay but cheaper?
Speaker 4 (11:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (11:24):
I think that was their whole point, is that they
couldn't justify paying Matt Gay the money he was making.
I think at the time of his contract, he signed
the biggest free agent deal ever for a kicker in
NFL history, and obviously the last two years he didn't
live up to that. A lot of his big issues
were on field goal of fifty plus yards. I believe
he was like eleven of twenty two over his two
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seasons with the Colt kicking from fifty plus and obviously
they want to be a little bit better in that area,
and I think that Spincer start took a step forward
last night, especially after Sam Vy he missed a long
field goal in the last two minute drill in the
joint practice.
Speaker 4 (11:58):
This past Tuesday.
Speaker 3 (11:59):
I was wondering that will wear on his mind a
little bit, but stuff up there, first kick fifty three
yards on the money, and obviously you want to see him,
you know, delivered that final kick as well. But overall,
I think that was a step in the right direction
for him and.
Speaker 4 (12:10):
He easily is the kicker.
Speaker 3 (12:12):
I mean Matt Tiel, the undrafted rookie out of Temple,
He's not gonna win the job. He has no chance
to win the job. Now the question becomes afficial trade
of your guys or do you, you know, go out
get somebody else.
Speaker 5 (12:21):
That he's struggled.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
So Khalil Herbert the veteran, is obviously in a camp
battle right now, and he can do some other things
as well. What do you think about his long term
prowess in making this roster when the training camp is complete.
Speaker 3 (12:38):
I think it's crowded. It might be a little difficult
to make that room because I'm looking at the other
running backs. You have Jonhn Taylor obviously, who's a lot
to make the roster. You have DJ Giddens, who I
think has you know, been in the rotation in that
running back room and getting more reference with the second string.
Speaker 4 (12:54):
Unit, Nikol Herbert.
Speaker 3 (12:56):
Then you have Tyler Goodson, who's also you know, familiar
with the offense and offer some special team's ability. So
I just it depends on how many running backs you're
trying to keep, But I would have Khalil Herbert probably
behind those three. I just listed because to me, they
offer you a little bit more and there's some more
familiarity there as well, outside of DJ.
Speaker 1 (13:15):
Giddon's rookie James Boyd with Andy Moore aut a motive
group potline. Before I let you go any other thoughts
as far as we can do, thoughts on that or
the fever last two games where they can't guard you,
or I that was a struggle.
Speaker 4 (13:30):
Yeah, I'll go fever on the last one.
Speaker 3 (13:32):
I just think that one. Last night's game was kind
of an anomaly. Bad defense, horrible offense, fifty points. You
can't win like that in the WNBA.
Speaker 4 (13:39):
But big picture wise, Dan b you just wonder how much.
Speaker 3 (13:43):
This team can withstand.
Speaker 4 (13:44):
They continue to have bodies just dropping.
Speaker 3 (13:46):
I mean, Helen Stark's has been out for a while now,
and then on top of that, you got some issues,
you know, popping up with Arry McDonald and her foot
I believe a foot ankle, and then Sidney Fulton had
knee injury.
Speaker 4 (13:56):
As well, So they need some point guards out there
that might need to do You wanna man South.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
No, I'm doing.
Speaker 1 (14:03):
Yeah, you know, I'm I'm almost hesitant to bring anything
like that up because you never know what you're getting
into nowadays right when you're bringing that up.
Speaker 2 (14:13):
So, yeah, it's funny, Joe. You know, I will say this.
You know I've never seen Jawanna man, not a second
of it. What about that.
Speaker 3 (14:23):
I'll be honest. I've seen the movie a couple of times.
Speaker 4 (14:25):
You're not missing anything.
Speaker 3 (14:27):
I feel like it's something to know, like for a
cultural you know, maybe i'll quick question or something. If
you're a tributing off day, you ain't missing nothing.
Speaker 2 (14:35):
Brother, right on, Hey, Sunday morning, eight am? Are you down?
Am I gonna I'm gonna put you in? Is marked
us in? Okay?
Speaker 5 (14:43):
Marked in? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (14:44):
You ain't about to you know, clown on the radio.
Speaker 3 (14:46):
No more.
Speaker 4 (14:47):
So I'm gonna be there.
Speaker 1 (14:47):
Well, I'm gonna read we we can't have any last
minute bailings because that that'll get you, clown.
Speaker 2 (14:52):
I do that to everybody and the girl everybody.
Speaker 3 (14:55):
I don't have any you know, I don't have any
gangs to cover.
Speaker 4 (14:58):
I think I'm well rested.
Speaker 1 (14:59):
So I'm looking forward to her and unbeaten. Was I yesterday?
In the shooting context?
Speaker 4 (15:06):
By the way, huh they told me you said one low?
Speaker 2 (15:11):
No, I don't know who told you that. That's inaccurate
as hell.
Speaker 1 (15:15):
Okay, unbeaten, unbeaten, buddy.
Speaker 2 (15:20):
All right, Sunday morning.
Speaker 1 (15:22):
All right, brother, I'll see it's h James Boyd of
the Athletic and the Fan Morning Show joining us to
talk about that big time Milwaukee Brewers fan Antner joined
Andy Moore.
Speaker 6 (15:36):
I'm doing I'm doing great.
Speaker 5 (15:38):
I'm doing great. I loved that my number is shadow.
Speaker 4 (15:41):
Retired by the Brewers.
Speaker 1 (15:45):
I thought about this on my way up here today. Joel,
this is what what goes through my head. I go,
I'm going to introduce Joey Erickson as Jim Gandner today
just for the hell of it.
Speaker 7 (15:55):
Jimmy Gallen heard the Wisconsin boy who spent seventeen seasons there.
Speaker 2 (15:59):
They love him. Now, I will say this. I don't
know if you ever played.
Speaker 1 (16:04):
And probably you didn't because this is an old school
dice game. But I played a game called stratamatic back
in the day in the eighties, a baseball game.
Speaker 2 (16:13):
And while Jim Gantner is well known and you know.
Speaker 1 (16:17):
A player that you want a part of your team,
I would never have him played in second base because
he was always seemed like he was always hitting like
in the two forties or something like that. He could
field the baseball, but he was always kind of hitting
in the two forties. I was always back then. My
second basement was like one sem Well. I wanted to
go with a high strikeout opportunity to hit a long
ball back in the day. So, Jim, you.
Speaker 6 (16:40):
Were ahead of the analytical game.
Speaker 7 (16:42):
You were ahead of Yes, I was a little game
that was, and they wanted the power from it.
Speaker 5 (16:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (16:48):
And look, one of these days, if you have a
minute and you get away from all these Anthony Richardson
questions that you're bombarded with, check out the game Stratamatic
in its history in baseball online.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
I'm somewhere, and.
Speaker 1 (17:01):
Then report back to me because it was a fantastic
If you're a baseball fan passing of the time back
in the.
Speaker 5 (17:09):
Day, I am highly I am highly aware of strata magic.
In fact, I think I played it when I was
a kid.
Speaker 7 (17:16):
Yeah, I I I think I played it when I
was a kid. I think my dad introduced me to it.
I think somebody had some Strata maatic around. We did
what we used to do was and it's I guess
you know. Sorry, if my pastor from my church in no,
Claire Wisconsin is listing.
Speaker 5 (17:33):
He's not. Uh but uh what what?
Speaker 7 (17:36):
What the What My friends and I used to do
was play random number generator baseball in the pews during
the service, and you assigned you know, you assigned a
little number to a single or whatever, and then you
make your lineup and and go for it.
Speaker 1 (17:51):
That's beautiful. I I admire it. I we we played
that passed the time. In the eighties. He played stratomatical.
I had a case and I was actually the Brewers,
but I didn't play. We played with all star teams
and my all star I got in on it kind
of late.
Speaker 2 (18:09):
So my all star team I.
Speaker 1 (18:10):
Had, I believe I had when he was a Brewer,
Glenn Braggs, I think was in my outfield. Then he
and I had Rob Deer because Rob Deer in eighty
seven had a big home run total but also struck
out about nine million times as Rob Bombader might have had.
Speaker 2 (18:29):
But I was I.
Speaker 1 (18:30):
My team was was the Brewers back then, and yeah
it was. It was a fun game. I'll tell you this.
We didn't always go by the exact rules. We modified
the rules a little bit, much like you might you know,
playing hockey or something like that on video games and
you take the off sides off. We modified the rules
a little bit. Thus, Jim Sunberg led the league in
(18:52):
nineteen eighty seven with home runs and I have no
idea how with.
Speaker 8 (18:56):
Forty eight, which which was probably probably well beyond his
career total as a Major League Baseball performer in real life.
Speaker 2 (19:08):
So pretty incredible.
Speaker 5 (19:10):
That's that's amazing. I love it. I h I think
that if you're going to play them, you gotta have
some you gotta have some weirdness. Now, now you do it.
And my son's got MLB.
Speaker 7 (19:19):
The show for the Nintendo Switch and now if you
want to play, you you just fire it up on there.
Speaker 2 (19:26):
Yes, that's it's exactly right. So yeah, this is uh, yeah,
it was.
Speaker 1 (19:31):
It was great back then though, Strata Man I actually
had and this is years ago. I had the inventor,
the creator of strata Matic on this show once and
then it was fascinating.
Speaker 2 (19:41):
It really was.
Speaker 9 (19:41):
That's pretty cool. That's that's honestly, that's pretty cool.
Speaker 2 (19:46):
Yeah, it was. It was fun.
Speaker 1 (19:48):
What wasn't cool is Joe I don't panic and freak
out other than one of that called must wins in
week number one, must win situations as I normally do. However,
I understand this is the preseason, but man, so much
of what we witnessed last night is so much of
what we have witnessed here in recent history that has
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led us to be positioned and following this team where
it is right now. Like there were moments with Tyler Warren,
there were some moments with a couple of other players,
but a lot of what we witnessed last night I
felt was the same and disappointing.
Speaker 7 (20:25):
What say you, I, I think I think that's probably
probably fair.
Speaker 5 (20:30):
I don't know that other outside of Warren, I don't
know that. Uh oh, you know what JT.
Speaker 7 (20:35):
Kueimolowaw I'll give There were some there were some interesting
stuff there.
Speaker 5 (20:39):
There were a few flashes from individual guys. I think.
Speaker 7 (20:43):
You know, people were asking me what I thought of
the way Daniel Jones, Riley Leonard played.
Speaker 5 (20:46):
I thought, it's it's pretty much.
Speaker 7 (20:47):
But being what we've seen at camp, you know, Jones
is going to to generally make the smart play.
Speaker 5 (20:55):
You know, some drops.
Speaker 7 (20:56):
Affected him yesterday, but he's not necessarily going to make outside.
Speaker 5 (20:59):
Of that one thrown a Doolan the extraordinary play. Riley
Leonard has been kind.
Speaker 6 (21:04):
Of scattershot in camp.
Speaker 5 (21:06):
It was kind of what we've seen. And then obviously
you have you have Richardson's injury and the play that
led to it.
Speaker 1 (21:14):
Yeah it yeah, Well tell me this the way you're
thinking right now. And you've been up there for every
snap and he went to Baltimore for every snap. You
were there for every snap last night. And this is
kind of an honor because real life commander of Apollo thirteen,
Jim Lovell, has passed away at the age of ninety seven.
Speaker 2 (21:35):
I think we learned that yesterday. I think he passed away.
Speaker 1 (21:38):
But he had a great quote in the film Apollo thirteen,
all right, and his gen Krantz, his flight commander, had
the quote, what on the ship is good?
Speaker 2 (21:48):
What do you see on the ship that is good?
Right now?
Speaker 1 (21:53):
Moving forward to those like me, that would suggest there's
a lot.
Speaker 2 (21:57):
Of the same old, same old happening presently.
Speaker 6 (22:00):
Well, I think one thing.
Speaker 7 (22:02):
I think one thing that we're just not going to
see in the preseason that we're gonna have to I'm
not saying to necessarily get excited about it, because there's.
Speaker 5 (22:09):
No guarantees with it.
Speaker 7 (22:11):
But one of the things that I think we need
to remember in the preseason is that lou Ana Rumo's defense,
like all.
Speaker 6 (22:17):
Defenses, are simple in preseason.
Speaker 7 (22:20):
But here's the thing about like Matt Eberfus's defense and
Gus Bradley's defense, they were.
Speaker 5 (22:24):
Simple in the regular season too.
Speaker 7 (22:26):
That they jumped from from preseason to regular season with
those guys, they were.
Speaker 6 (22:30):
Doing more game planning, more stuff.
Speaker 7 (22:33):
But for the most part, those are simple, static defenses.
Speaker 9 (22:37):
We're not going to see anything.
Speaker 7 (22:40):
That we can judge lou Ana Rumo's scheme on at
this point. We're just not His whole thing is based
on game planning. They're not really going to game plan
for these teams, I think in terms of that question,
because I got that a couple times yesterday. Hey, the
defense doesn't look much much more interesting at all.
Speaker 5 (22:59):
Well, he's not gonna do that right now.
Speaker 7 (23:02):
That's he's he's gonna wait till they get to the
actual games to game plan those out. So that one,
that one I've kind of just set on the back burner.
I need to see it once things start for real.
And he's actually, you know, doing what he was hired
to do, which is come up with the sort of
game plan specific type stuff.
Speaker 5 (23:22):
I think one of.
Speaker 7 (23:24):
The other things is just the joint practices. The joint
practice looked a lot better than the game. You feel
better about that from an offensive line standpoint, uh, because
they were actually playing the ones.
Speaker 9 (23:36):
That's one of the other things about One of the
other things that happens to these these.
Speaker 7 (23:38):
Joint practices that have exploded across the NFL is that
now we're not.
Speaker 9 (23:42):
Seeing the ones go against the ones in the preseason.
Speaker 7 (23:45):
It's it's three ones and seven twos and one to
three going against something some other combination on the other side,
And so that that takes a little bit of it.
Speaker 5 (23:56):
Now on the flip side.
Speaker 7 (23:59):
I think some of the stuff we saw at quarterback
and I think this is why you know this is
pretty much suggested what I wrote is if you were
looking for reasons not to believe in the quarterbacks, or
reasons that these quarterbacks are risking to begin in the
first place, it was.
Speaker 5 (24:13):
All there for you.
Speaker 1 (24:15):
That's Joey Erickson the Stars on the Andy Morre Automotive
Group plotline. Back to back practices this weekend at Westfield
at Grant Park and then obviously Saturday, preseason Game two
against Green Bay, I would agree with you on the
whole philosophy on defensively in the preseason.
Speaker 2 (24:35):
The one thing that did.
Speaker 1 (24:36):
Stand out there were again a lot of mistackles preseason
game number one, I understand, but this has been a
very unbecoming trait that you know still you know on
preseason game number one was an issue last night. Hopefully
that goes away unlike it did not over the course
of the Gust Bradley era.
Speaker 10 (24:57):
Well, and I think one of the other things that
made I made a mental note of early in those
drives is, you know, we're supposed to be looking for
linebackers because that spot is open next to Zaire Franklin
and Joe Boschi has the interception.
Speaker 5 (25:11):
But there was a lot of rushing yards with that
first group.
Speaker 7 (25:14):
There was a lot of rushing yards that first group,
and that's to me, that's.
Speaker 5 (25:18):
That's the question mark for the linebackers. That's the question
mark for the backup tackles.
Speaker 7 (25:22):
You know, I when Grover Stewart and the Forrest Butner
are in there, I'm less concerned.
Speaker 5 (25:27):
But you know, in the past couple of years, whenever
Grover Stewart's gone out, teams.
Speaker 7 (25:32):
Have gone oh wait, nineties out let's run right there
at the guy behind him, and so I still have
some questions about whether or not they have the guys
to to, you know, do something closer to his level
once they go out in the run game.
Speaker 5 (25:46):
And then you know, the other thing.
Speaker 7 (25:48):
The other thing from the defense, I think is a
very real concern is something we learned after the game
that Justin Way tore his ACLU, and all of a sudden,
this cornerback issition that they really did put a lot
of resources into this offseason is suddenly thin again after
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them trying to make it as deep as possible. I
think that that second spot, that second starting spot on
the outside is suddenly a pretty real concern.
Speaker 9 (26:18):
With Wally being out, Jalen Jones.
Speaker 7 (26:21):
As a somewhat to some level of degree serious hamstring injury,
and then Juju Brent is also dealing with a hamstring
injury and had his own injury history. That was three
guys competing for one spot and all three of them
are currently sidelined.
Speaker 1 (26:35):
Yeah, that is beyond problem that I'm assuming some move
or moves forthcoming. I mean, do they need to dive
into that trend a free agent pool at some point
here with the situation you find in that defensive secondary
they kind of already.
Speaker 5 (26:53):
Have by bringing in Trey Herndon and Duke Shelley. Those
are guys who have played.
Speaker 7 (26:56):
A lot of football but have been kind of bouncing
around for a little bit here. If they're going to
make a signing or an acquisition, that's a difference maker.
It's going to have to be at the end of
training camp, like when they got Womack last year, because
all those guys are on. All the rosters are still
at ninety right now. I do think that if you're
the Colts pro scouting people that this preseason you are
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looking at corners all of a sudden and you weren't
really expecting to it.
Speaker 6 (27:23):
It's one of those things that is.
Speaker 5 (27:25):
Actually a position.
Speaker 7 (27:26):
You know, they signed somebody in free agency, they made
a lesser signing and free agency that didn't work out.
Speaker 6 (27:31):
With Corey Valentine.
Speaker 5 (27:32):
They drafted a guy on the first two days.
Speaker 7 (27:34):
They really did put some resources into that position, and
now injury has made.
Speaker 5 (27:38):
It thin again.
Speaker 1 (27:40):
So Joey Erickson on the Andy Moore onto Monti group plotline.
Have we here recently seen the real A d Mitchell
stand up or is this kind of a fac simile,
if you will, of what we saw a year ago
with moments that ultimately led to a rookie season regular
season disappointment.
Speaker 7 (28:00):
I still want to see a little more when things
are for real. You know, there were there were signs
last year in training camp, you know, passes thrown by
Joe Flecko that went to nowhere where you assume that
it's probably the rookie receiver and probably not the thirty
nine year old quarterback making the mistake.
Speaker 5 (28:20):
There were a handful of those. Through the first week.
He looked good.
Speaker 7 (28:26):
He looked good in the joint practice. He's looked good
for about a week and a half now.
Speaker 5 (28:30):
But you still you still.
Speaker 7 (28:32):
Want to see it from him once it's for real
and teams are game planning and it's the real corners
out there and all that stuff. I'm interested to see
how he does against the Packers this week.
Speaker 2 (28:44):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (28:45):
I And and speaking of that, Joel, the plan was,
you know, starting Daniel Jones, but then general Jones is
almost like you know, he started because Richardson went down
with the picky situation. How does that change the plan
you think for preseason game two a week from tomorrow
against Green Bay.
Speaker 7 (29:05):
My best guess is that Stiken just kind of inverts
what his plan was. His plan was for Richardson to
start and play a quarter and a half before giving
way to Jones. I wonder if Jones makes the start
and gets two drives essentially against Green Bay, and then
Richardson gets the rest of the half, that would seem
to me to be the most obvious way to kind
(29:31):
of make it even in their minds. I'm not expecting
the Packers to play a lot of people because of
the joint practice. Shane Stiken has already kind of hinted
that he's going to follow the same plan with his
most important players, so I'm kind of not expecting the.
Speaker 5 (29:43):
Packers to do it.
Speaker 7 (29:44):
So that to me seems like if you're trying to
make it equitable, the plan was to start somebody and
play in the quarter and a half, but unfortunately, because
of the injury, Richardson started and played two series. It
seems like the easiest thing to do would be to
have Jones start play too.
Speaker 9 (30:00):
Series and then give the rest of after Richardson.
Speaker 2 (30:02):
How did Daniel Jones look to you last night?
Speaker 7 (30:06):
I think that's a lot of what we've seen in camp.
You know, he's gonna make the right throw. A lot
he's gonna make.
Speaker 5 (30:14):
He's gonna a lot of it's gonna be accurate.
Speaker 7 (30:17):
You know, if he was plagued by some drops last night,
I counted at least four.
Speaker 5 (30:22):
That should have been caught.
Speaker 7 (30:23):
So if he gets those, he's looking at more of
a thirteen to twenty one type of game. I think
in a game planning situation, that's going to get that
accuracy and stuff is going to.
Speaker 5 (30:36):
Give you a little more in terms.
Speaker 7 (30:38):
Of completion percentage because Psychen is going to be attacking
an offense in a way that he wasn't last night.
But I just don't know that we've seen at any point,
and including last night, you know, sort of the extra play,
I don't know he's going to elevate what the Colts have.
Speaker 5 (30:54):
And on the deep ball, I.
Speaker 7 (30:55):
Still need to see him be consistent enough on that
to really take advantage of a guy Alec Pierce down
the field.
Speaker 5 (31:02):
But I think what you saw is it's going to.
Speaker 7 (31:05):
Be fairly consistent like it was last night. You know,
the ball is going to be fairly accurate. I just
don't know that you're going to get a lot of
extra from him.
Speaker 2 (31:14):
Yeah, no, anything else stand out to you.
Speaker 1 (31:16):
Maybe we haven't discussed both good and bad from last night, Joel.
Speaker 7 (31:21):
I think I think the thing that that I've come
away with is is not so much the injury with Richardson,
but why the injury happened.
Speaker 5 (31:31):
And I know that this has been.
Speaker 7 (31:32):
Debated all over you know Colts fan base that today,
but like to me, when you see guys like Kurt
Warner or Chase Daniel, these former players online saying that
this is something that's day one install that the quarterback
and quarterbacks are gonna make mistakes.
Speaker 5 (31:50):
But to me, there's a concern there that that that
you you.
Speaker 7 (31:54):
You've got something that is apparently a very basic part
of the offense, but you should know what the offensive
line's gonna do.
Speaker 5 (32:02):
You should know that that guy's taught and you don't
get it out.
Speaker 7 (32:05):
I to me, that's a concern because that's the kind
of play that in the regular season. You know, last night,
in the preseason there's an injury. An injury is obviously
paramount because of Richardson's injury history, but that same play
in the regular season without an injury, that could be
an enormous.
Speaker 9 (32:20):
Sack, fumble or a huge play.
Speaker 5 (32:23):
That has nothing to do with the play call.
Speaker 7 (32:25):
It has everything to do with the execution or the
lack of execution on the quarterbacks part. That's to be
stuff like that, and coupled with the injury. That's why
there's an open competition because you can't have that kind
of stuff. It's tough to game plan and put something in.
Speaker 5 (32:44):
When they when they game plan these things.
Speaker 7 (32:46):
Like they put in a new play, but it's not
like they just put in that play. They go, well,
this defense does this bunch of stuff, so we're gonna
put this in for this situation.
Speaker 5 (32:55):
But if they come out in a different coverage, you
have to be able to switch it. Like you've got
to be on top off of all.
Speaker 7 (33:00):
That stuff and not have, you know, not have a
a situation like last night where you you just you frankly,
you know, if the response the rusher was your responsibility
and you missed him and and you ended up taking
a big blow.
Speaker 5 (33:15):
Because of it.
Speaker 2 (33:16):
Yeah. Man, it's just it is just so much the
same with him.
Speaker 1 (33:22):
It's it's just hard not to think that what you're
gonna get even further down the road, because I will
say this, Joe, I still think that he is regardless. Well,
unless there is another injury and it takes him out,
or all of a sudden there is a gap that
widen's canyon like that there's no choice but to start Jones,
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I think regardless. Still, it's going to be Anthony Richardson
coming up in week number one.
Speaker 7 (33:48):
He has he has the like he's got the upside.
Speaker 6 (33:52):
He's got the upside.
Speaker 7 (33:53):
But I think I think the thing that's nagging at
me today is that that play showed that there's a
bigger downside to him as well too, And I think
that's probably a tough thing to weigh as a coach.
Speaker 5 (34:04):
You know, it's it's yes.
Speaker 6 (34:06):
You can get, You're going to get.
Speaker 5 (34:09):
I mean we've seen it.
Speaker 7 (34:10):
When he starts, you're going to get played that you
feel like maybe three or four other guys could make.
But are you also getting plays that most quarterbacks wouldn't give.
Speaker 5 (34:22):
Up to the defense.
Speaker 9 (34:24):
And that can.
Speaker 5 (34:25):
Look like an incompletion, that can look like an interception.
It can also look like a sack.
Speaker 7 (34:29):
It can also look like what it was last night,
where a pressure isn't recognized and that leads to a
negative play like that stuff. I think is the tough
part because that downside is bigger. You get a bigger
range of things that can happen with Richardson. But he's
his feeling is obviously higher than Jones.
Speaker 5 (34:49):
This to me.
Speaker 1 (34:52):
He spent four years in Milwaukee on the left side
of that enfield and had a career high in nineteen
eighty six with nine home runs. Let's thank Ernest Ryles
for joining us on the Andy Moore Auto Motive Group potline.
Ernest Ernest Ryles guy, not.
Speaker 6 (35:14):
Not Ernest Ryles, more of a pat List Dash guy.
Speaker 2 (35:17):
Oh you like list Yeah, well everybody liked List Dash.
He was a bass dealer.
Speaker 1 (35:20):
She was kind of a multi dimensional Were you big
on Dale spam everyone?
Speaker 5 (35:26):
Yes, yes, everybody's big death.
Speaker 2 (35:28):
Yes, you know who? I liked a great deal and
I always found it kind of unique.
Speaker 1 (35:33):
Bj Sirhoff, who was a highly regarded player, started out
as a catcher, really multi dimensional on his own right,
and I think made made a lot of noise early
because I want to say he was on that nineteen
eighty five USA tam USA Olympic team that had Larkin
and you know mart mcguied a bunch of notables back
(35:54):
then as well. I believe I just kind of lost
my train of thought. Now who am I?
Speaker 5 (35:59):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (35:59):
BJ, Sirhow off? Were you a big BJ? Sirhoff guy?
He was from the Bronx New York, was he not?
Speaker 2 (36:04):
That's odd?
Speaker 7 (36:05):
I believe I believe BJ were the number one tick
in the eighty five raft.
Speaker 1 (36:12):
J If you look back at the eighty five that
eighty five t USA team had a no like O
to B. McDowell played center field for that team in
eighty five TUSA, Remember ODEB McDowell.
Speaker 6 (36:24):
Long time, long time, break right.
Speaker 1 (36:27):
Correct, and in Texas, I think is where he he
started as well. But I just remember getting all those
cards back in nineteen eighty five.
Speaker 2 (36:36):
It was eighty six when I got those.
Speaker 7 (36:38):
I had a ton of ODBB McDowell, and I had
a ton of all those guys. Mine mine were probably
a little more nineties, but uh yeah, b J.
Speaker 2 (36:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (36:49):
It's it's a miracle that I'm a Brewers fan, because
I I think I first started watching like they were
okay in ninety two, But most of my timechildhood was
like the dark, dark dark. Playoffs are no possible, like
losing one hundred games Brewers teams.
Speaker 2 (37:08):
Was I was twenty.
Speaker 5 (37:11):
Twenty two years old before they were.
Speaker 9 (37:12):
In the playoffs.
Speaker 2 (37:15):
Well, and they were at the time in the American
League East.
Speaker 1 (37:19):
And you know, even with Don Mattingly, that was the
time right when when the Yankees still scuffled and wasn't
playing well. I think Boston obviously in eighty six went
to the World Series, but you know, there were some
opportunities that were never met. I love coming on and
going old school Brewers with you because I can do
this absolutely all day long.
Speaker 5 (37:41):
I always think this is what I always think about
growing up and being a Brewers fan.
Speaker 7 (37:45):
There are a lot of fans who are like, you
know what, I don't care how long it takes, burn
everything to the ground with whatever.
Speaker 5 (37:52):
Coming they are and I don't. And they're like, I
don't care how long.
Speaker 7 (37:55):
We're bad, And you know what, it's fine to say that,
but it's another thing to actually do that for more
than a decade, you.
Speaker 2 (38:04):
Know, Mike.
Speaker 7 (38:06):
It's another thing to go, Okay, well we're gonna blow
it all up and we're gonna be awful, and we
don't like it might take us a decade and a half.
Speaker 5 (38:15):
Let me tell you, in year seven and year eight
of that decade.
Speaker 2 (38:18):
And a half.
Speaker 5 (38:19):
That gets a lot harder than you think it does.
Speaker 1 (38:21):
Right now, Joe Colts fans been watching this group since
twenty fourteen.
Speaker 2 (38:26):
Feel the pain.
Speaker 1 (38:27):
Let me tell you that, righty here, there's no doubt
about it. Feel the pain, hey man. I always enjoy
the conversation more than you know. It is good to
see you last week. I'll see you on Monday and
then again on Thursday. Coming up next week at Westfield.
Thanks Joe, you bet, you bet.
Speaker 5 (38:42):
We'll see you later.
But on the Andy Moore Automotive Group Hotline from the
Athletic and the Fan morning show, he was outstanding.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Also shooting a little hoop with me yesterday, and.
Speaker 1 (00:09):
He's going to be good to go for a little
five on five run coming up on Sunday morning at
Southport High School.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
Correct, James Boyd, that.
Speaker 3 (00:16):
Is correct, Thank god, the coldt practice in the afternoon.
Speaker 1 (00:19):
Finally, my brother, my brother, we're going, I believe, and
it will be at sale be Southward or Center Grove Central,
one of the two. But we will pick him up
and put him down coming up on Sunday morning. Hey,
great effort by you yesterday too. Makes you proud to
be around everybody that we work with, does it not?
In a situation liking Franklin at Legend yesterday?
Speaker 3 (00:43):
Absolutely, I got to put a lot of you know
names with faces you know you get on the email
list and I'm like, I don't know who happy people are.
So it was good to be out there and also
mingle with the listeners who wouldn't you know, I wouldn't
have the opportunity without them. So it's always pretty cool.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
All right.
Speaker 1 (00:59):
Thoughts about last night, he owned up to it being
his mistake. How much of it do you put it
all on Richardson? Is there some on stiking? And we're
still it doesn't really matter for it's preseason game one
or week number ten. A lot of this stuff that
we saw that were critical about today is stuff that
happens regardless of the time of the season.
Speaker 3 (01:19):
With this Colts team, Absolutely, I think the majority of
the blame has to fall on Richardson. From what I understand,
the protection or the defensive recognition he should have had
in the moment is something that a lot of quarterback
that I was reading today that have played in the NFL,
we're saying a pretty simple adjustment.
Speaker 4 (01:40):
Now.
Speaker 3 (01:40):
Obviously, players make mistakes, but the confounding part for Anthony
is that he might have made that mistake because he
hasn't had a ton of reps and then he gets
knocked out of the game, and what is.
Speaker 5 (01:52):
He missing more reps?
Speaker 3 (01:53):
So I only had six snaps last night, really seven
because they had one play called back. But I'll feel
for the young man, but I'm also happy that he
did not suffer a bigger injury.
Speaker 4 (02:02):
JMZ. You know, just Okay, the finger.
Speaker 3 (02:04):
Looks pretty bad early on, but I personally felt like
it wasn't that bad because he didn't freak out. If
he had broken his finger, I think he would have
been less calm than he was on the sideline and
probably would would have went back to the locker room
to get checked out even further.
Speaker 1 (02:18):
Yeah, I just to me, it's kind of more about
the same old, same old. That makes sense, all right,
lack of efficiency, bad decisions, unavailability. I mean, it's all
kind of the same thing. This is all kind of
rolled into one for him. He's most been known for
at least those three things, if not beyond absolutely.
Speaker 3 (02:41):
I think the biggest thing among those three things is
the unavailability, the injury prone nature of his career. And
the bottom line is for Anthony, you know, great person,
great human, and the coach believe he can be a
great player, but the thing that holds him back more
than anything is that he can't stay on the field
for a sending period of time. And even though last
night with probably pretty minor and in the regular season
(03:02):
gang perhaps he goes back in.
Speaker 4 (03:05):
It's just the fact that.
Speaker 3 (03:06):
We're having this conversation again, DANV. I feel like you
can pick any day of the year any gang like
you said, and we're having this conversation about the guy
not being available, and at some point that's going to
dominate anything else you do, because what's the best availability
or ability is availability. As my high school coach always did, well.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
I'm going to put this again.
Speaker 1 (03:27):
We had to call her Anthony bringing up Shane Steichen,
and I'm going to also put this on on just
where organizationally they are. These are all these same things,
and we're talking about the quarterback situation, which is the same,
but you know, penalties, miss tackles, missed assignments, and certainly
(03:48):
kind of a new wrinkle was just how awful special
teams were outside of you know, the new kicking situation
last night. I mean, a lot of these things we're
talking about. As I mentioned a little bit earlier, it
didn't matter if it's preseason, in game one. I mean, hell,
it could come in the middle of the regular season.
And it's still really what this Colt organization is most
(04:09):
noted for right now, which is highly unfortunate.
Speaker 3 (04:14):
Yeah, I mean they're known for being mediocre, they're known
for not really winning. As the Lake I know the
Lake Jimmers love to mention being in the upper quartile,
but those days are gone.
Speaker 5 (04:23):
Man.
Speaker 3 (04:23):
Honestly, you know, since I've moved to Andy in twenty
twenty one, the Colts that I have known and watched
for the last few years very intently obviously just living
here now is a team that isn't good and consistently
isn't good.
Speaker 4 (04:36):
So I think last night was.
Speaker 3 (04:38):
Not really I guess you could say it's a step
forward because you got out there.
Speaker 4 (04:42):
For a real game, you can see what you can correct.
Speaker 3 (04:44):
But there was certainly some reflas throughout that some positive
stuff as well, you know, Tyler Warren being one of
those positives by Ady Mitchell had some nice moments as well.
Even Danie Jones had had.
Speaker 4 (04:54):
A couple of nice throws there. But overall, yeah, I.
Speaker 3 (04:57):
Wouldn't imagine if Saint Second is too pleased.
Speaker 4 (04:59):
With the execution part of it, because that's.
Speaker 3 (05:01):
You know, pre snap penalties and things like that. They
just can't afford those, because they're not a team that
can really survive in some of those third and long,
second and long situations. They're a team that needs every
single yard that they can get because the quarterback play,
in my opinion, jamb isn't good enough to really get
you out of a bunch of.
Speaker 1 (05:18):
Jams, and it isn't expected to be good enough to
get you out of these jams as well. You know
you mentioned Warree. I mentioned him. I expected that. I
think most of us did too. I'm probably gonna butcher
his last name, but Tuhimo Alawa. I thought he looked
good up until he got injured. Obviously, I thought he looked.
He looked really good. So you had a couple of
rookies that pop. Maybe Hunter Wohler is a guy than
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the secondary that people were talking about in Granted, there
are guys that weren't out there that you expect a
lot more defensively, but man, the one thing that has
been a carryover so far from what has been regimed
or regime from a defensive coordinator angle, has been they
missed some tackles, and they missed some tackles in a
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profound way.
Speaker 3 (06:05):
James, Yeah, I thought the run defense yesterday was not
good at all. And again, for those listening, I'm not
telling you something you don't know, but they're not using
their souped up offenses or defenses in preseason games. Honestly,
you probably see a lot more wrinkles in the joint
practices and even then your hold back. So all that
(06:25):
in mind, I just think that it's kind of embarrassing
to have the tackling effort that you've had on display
last night. And I do wonder does that put a
little bit of a bug in Chris Ballard's head to say, man,
maybe we do need to go get a veteran to
perhaps help that room, or someone who's proven they can
be a starter in this league, because right now, the
(06:46):
only proven starter in the room is Aire Franklin. He's
coming back from left ankle surgery's still rehaving. But the
rest of them, I mean, Cameron mcgrome had a great
opportunity last night to kind of show that hey, I'm
a start, a caliber linebacker in this league, and I
thought he struggled because it fits some of the runs games.
I thought all the linebackers kind of did so not
great from a tackling standpoint, like you said, because the
Ravens didn't do anything specially, they just ran the ball.
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And then secondly, you know that special teams unit, man,
like the angles they had from those kickoff returns punt
returns un acceptable. And I know Brian Mason probably was
freaking out because he's a very serious guy, and I
tend him to get that corrected pretty quickly.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
Hey, next two days, Jase Boyd, by the way, joins
us something Andy Moore on the Motorcrew potline. Man D
Derek White, whom I know you know very well, just
brought over a bucket full of ice cold beer for me.
Speaker 2 (07:34):
James Boyd, Is that a good friend or what? Right there? Pal?
Speaker 5 (07:37):
What do you think?
Speaker 3 (07:38):
Yeah, he's a very nice guy. Had you have me
sign this PDR pitcher the other day? So I think
I was the last one of the bunch to get
my finisher on there. So I was, I guess, surrounded
by greatness in that regard. D. D.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
White is in the house.
Speaker 1 (07:53):
That's James Boyd of the Fan Morning Show said I
until today if you can catch him weekday mornings Monday
through Fred here on the Fan. He's on the Andy
Moore Automotive Group potline. So a lot has been asking me.
So the assumption here, and I know you got a
couple of days of practice you mentioned that Saturday and
Sunday for the colts. I'm assuming that the whole starter
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and the rep mentality is going to be flipped considering
the circumstances of Richardson last night and what they had thought,
and maybe flip for game number two coming up a
week from tomorrow against Green Bay.
Speaker 4 (08:26):
I would think so, but I'm not so sure.
Speaker 3 (08:28):
I'm very curious to see how Anthony's hand responds to,
you know, having the finger dislocated and put back in.
From what I understand, he had some X rays done
on it and he.
Speaker 4 (08:37):
Find the day to day a little bit sore.
Speaker 3 (08:40):
But you know, what does that look like? Do they
limit him at all tomorrow?
Speaker 4 (08:44):
And they do have three straight practices.
Speaker 3 (08:46):
So I've been thinking do you limit on Tomorrow and
kind of wrap him up Sunday and Monday before you
have from off days Tuesday and Wednesday, and then going
into the joint practice Thursday. So I'm also curious Dan
bid like because of the joint practice on that Thursday,
depending on how many reps each quarterback gets, does that,
you know, change your mind? Do you stick with the
original plan having Daniel Jones start, do you flip it?
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I mean, there's a lot of questions you have to have,
but this is what happens when Anthony Richardson is involved.
You kind of have to get creative because it never
really goes as it's supposed to go or as it's
plan unfortunately.
Speaker 1 (09:19):
Yeah, James Boyd with us, I still say this, he's
going to be that Week one starter. Like you mentioned
a couple of nice throws by Daniel Jones, he didn't
come in and there's no oh wow for me. I mean,
he kind of did what I think he's capable and
should be capable of doing, and you know, nothing really
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more than that.
Speaker 2 (09:42):
What say you?
Speaker 4 (09:44):
Yeah, I would agree.
Speaker 3 (09:45):
I was saying he had a couple of nice thros.
Now I can follow it up by saying he had
a couple of nights not so nice throws. There's some
drops in there as well, But I think to Daniel
Jones experienced yesterday was kind of what I've come to expect.
He's okay to you know, possibly above average quarterback in
the NFL. I mean, if you're looking back at that
one season they made the playoff with the Giants, but
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I was a surprise best performance at all. And I
do agree with you, JAMV. I think that Anthony richardson
Field will start Week one barring a severe injury, because,
in my opinion, if you bench him before the season starts.
If you tell him you don't have a chance to
be our guy to start.
Speaker 4 (10:20):
The season, I think you're telling him that this is
the end.
Speaker 3 (10:23):
Now people can debate on when will be his last
game for the franchise or what that would look like,
but effectively, that would be the end of the Anthony
Richardson era because to me, you're telling him I don't
believe in you, and we're gonna roll with this other guy, who,
by the way, isn't our long term answer either because
he's on a one year deal, so it's a lot
of stakes.
Speaker 4 (10:40):
But again, Anthony cannot.
Speaker 3 (10:42):
Continue to have these setbacks physically. Otherwise Daniel Jones is
gonna win a job by the fall. I mean, if
you had a shoulder in the spring to shut you down,
you got a finger last night, you don't need to
have anything else happening before now in the season.
Speaker 1 (10:55):
All Right, I mentioned this Spencer Strader I thought did
kind of what he needed to do. He didn't like
go consistently. Had that miss from what fifty plus I
think whatever it was. Yeah, had a long hit from
fifty three. That's okay, but he did kind of remind
me of what they had, I guess at a cheaper version,
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right with Strader.
Speaker 2 (11:19):
Did he remind you of that last night? A little bit,
Matt Gay but cheaper?
Speaker 4 (11:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (11:24):
I think that was their whole point, is that they
couldn't justify paying Matt Gay the money he was making.
I think at the time of his contract, he signed
the biggest free agent deal ever for a kicker in
NFL history, and obviously the last two years he didn't
live up to that. A lot of his big issues
were on field goal of fifty plus yards. I believe
he was like eleven of twenty two over his two
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seasons with the Colt kicking from fifty plus and obviously
they want to be a little bit better in that area,
and I think that Spincer start took a step forward
last night, especially after Sam Vy he missed a long
field goal in the last two minute drill in the
joint practice.
Speaker 4 (11:58):
This past Tuesday.
Speaker 3 (11:59):
I was wondering that will wear on his mind a
little bit, but stuff up there, first kick fifty three
yards on the money, and obviously you want to see him,
you know, delivered that final kick as well. But overall,
I think that was a step in the right direction
for him and.
Speaker 4 (12:10):
He easily is the kicker.
Speaker 3 (12:12):
I mean Matt Tiel, the undrafted rookie out of Temple,
He's not gonna win the job. He has no chance
to win the job. Now the question becomes afficial trade
of your guys or do you, you know, go out
get somebody else.
Speaker 5 (12:21):
That he's struggled.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
So Khalil Herbert the veteran, is obviously in a camp
battle right now, and he can do some other things
as well. What do you think about his long term
prowess in making this roster when the training camp is complete.
Speaker 3 (12:38):
I think it's crowded. It might be a little difficult
to make that room because I'm looking at the other
running backs. You have Jonhn Taylor obviously, who's a lot
to make the roster. You have DJ Giddens, who I
think has you know, been in the rotation in that
running back room and getting more reference with the second string.
Speaker 4 (12:54):
Unit, Nikol Herbert.
Speaker 3 (12:56):
Then you have Tyler Goodson, who's also you know, familiar
with the offense and offer some special team's ability. So
I just it depends on how many running backs you're
trying to keep, But I would have Khalil Herbert probably
behind those three. I just listed because to me, they
offer you a little bit more and there's some more
familiarity there as well, outside of DJ.
Speaker 1 (13:15):
Giddon's rookie James Boyd with Andy Moore aut a motive
group potline. Before I let you go any other thoughts
as far as we can do, thoughts on that or
the fever last two games where they can't guard you,
or I that was a struggle.
Speaker 4 (13:30):
Yeah, I'll go fever on the last one.
Speaker 3 (13:32):
I just think that one. Last night's game was kind
of an anomaly. Bad defense, horrible offense, fifty points. You
can't win like that in the WNBA.
Speaker 4 (13:39):
But big picture wise, Dan b you just wonder how much.
Speaker 3 (13:43):
This team can withstand.
Speaker 4 (13:44):
They continue to have bodies just dropping.
Speaker 3 (13:46):
I mean, Helen Stark's has been out for a while now,
and then on top of that, you got some issues,
you know, popping up with Arry McDonald and her foot
I believe a foot ankle, and then Sidney Fulton had
knee injury.
Speaker 4 (13:56):
As well, So they need some point guards out there
that might need to do You wanna man South.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
No, I'm doing.
Speaker 1 (14:03):
Yeah, you know, I'm I'm almost hesitant to bring anything
like that up because you never know what you're getting
into nowadays right when you're bringing that up.
Speaker 2 (14:13):
So, yeah, it's funny, Joe. You know, I will say this.
You know I've never seen Jawanna man, not a second
of it. What about that.
Speaker 3 (14:23):
I'll be honest. I've seen the movie a couple of times.
Speaker 4 (14:25):
You're not missing anything.
Speaker 3 (14:27):
I feel like it's something to know, like for a
cultural you know, maybe i'll quick question or something. If
you're a tributing off day, you ain't missing nothing.
Speaker 2 (14:35):
Brother, right on, Hey, Sunday morning, eight am? Are you down?
Am I gonna I'm gonna put you in? Is marked
us in? Okay?
Speaker 5 (14:43):
Marked in? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (14:44):
You ain't about to you know, clown on the radio.
Speaker 3 (14:46):
No more.
Speaker 4 (14:47):
So I'm gonna be there.
Speaker 1 (14:47):
Well, I'm gonna read we we can't have any last
minute bailings because that that'll get you, clown.
Speaker 2 (14:52):
I do that to everybody and the girl everybody.
Speaker 3 (14:55):
I don't have any you know, I don't have any
gangs to cover.
Speaker 4 (14:58):
I think I'm well rested.
Speaker 1 (14:59):
So I'm looking forward to her and unbeaten. Was I yesterday?
In the shooting context?
Speaker 4 (15:06):
By the way, huh they told me you said one low?
Speaker 2 (15:11):
No, I don't know who told you that. That's inaccurate
as hell.
Speaker 1 (15:15):
Okay, unbeaten, unbeaten, buddy.
Speaker 2 (15:20):
All right, Sunday morning.
Speaker 1 (15:22):
All right, brother, I'll see it's h James Boyd of
the Athletic and the Fan Morning Show joining us to
talk about that big time Milwaukee Brewers fan Antner joined
Andy Moore.
Speaker 6 (15:36):
I'm doing I'm doing great.
Speaker 5 (15:38):
I'm doing great. I loved that my number is shadow.
Speaker 4 (15:41):
Retired by the Brewers.
Speaker 1 (15:45):
I thought about this on my way up here today. Joel,
this is what what goes through my head. I go,
I'm going to introduce Joey Erickson as Jim Gandner today
just for the hell of it.
Speaker 7 (15:55):
Jimmy Gallen heard the Wisconsin boy who spent seventeen seasons there.
Speaker 2 (15:59):
They love him. Now, I will say this. I don't
know if you ever played.
Speaker 1 (16:04):
And probably you didn't because this is an old school
dice game. But I played a game called stratamatic back
in the day in the eighties, a baseball game.
Speaker 2 (16:13):
And while Jim Gantner is well known and you know.
Speaker 1 (16:17):
A player that you want a part of your team,
I would never have him played in second base because
he was always seemed like he was always hitting like
in the two forties or something like that. He could
field the baseball, but he was always kind of hitting
in the two forties. I was always back then. My
second basement was like one sem Well. I wanted to
go with a high strikeout opportunity to hit a long
ball back in the day. So, Jim, you.
Speaker 6 (16:40):
Were ahead of the analytical game.
Speaker 7 (16:42):
You were ahead of Yes, I was a little game
that was, and they wanted the power from it.
Speaker 5 (16:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (16:48):
And look, one of these days, if you have a
minute and you get away from all these Anthony Richardson
questions that you're bombarded with, check out the game Stratamatic
in its history in baseball online.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
I'm somewhere, and.
Speaker 1 (17:01):
Then report back to me because it was a fantastic
If you're a baseball fan passing of the time back
in the.
Speaker 5 (17:09):
Day, I am highly I am highly aware of strata magic.
In fact, I think I played it when I was
a kid.
Speaker 7 (17:16):
Yeah, I I I think I played it when I
was a kid. I think my dad introduced me to it.
I think somebody had some Strata maatic around. We did
what we used to do was and it's I guess
you know. Sorry, if my pastor from my church in no,
Claire Wisconsin is listing.
Speaker 5 (17:33):
He's not. Uh but uh what what?
Speaker 7 (17:36):
What the What My friends and I used to do
was play random number generator baseball in the pews during
the service, and you assigned you know, you assigned a
little number to a single or whatever, and then you
make your lineup and and go for it.
Speaker 1 (17:51):
That's beautiful. I I admire it. I we we played
that passed the time. In the eighties. He played stratomatical.
I had a case and I was actually the Brewers,
but I didn't play. We played with all star teams
and my all star I got in on it kind
of late.
Speaker 2 (18:09):
So my all star team I.
Speaker 1 (18:10):
Had, I believe I had when he was a Brewer,
Glenn Braggs, I think was in my outfield. Then he
and I had Rob Deer because Rob Deer in eighty
seven had a big home run total but also struck
out about nine million times as Rob Bombader might have had.
Speaker 2 (18:29):
But I was I.
Speaker 1 (18:30):
My team was was the Brewers back then, and yeah
it was. It was a fun game. I'll tell you this.
We didn't always go by the exact rules. We modified
the rules a little bit, much like you might you know,
playing hockey or something like that on video games and
you take the off sides off. We modified the rules
a little bit. Thus, Jim Sunberg led the league in
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nineteen eighty seven with home runs and I have no
idea how with.
Speaker 8 (18:56):
Forty eight, which which was probably probably well beyond his
career total as a Major League Baseball performer in real life.
Speaker 2 (19:08):
So pretty incredible.
Speaker 5 (19:10):
That's that's amazing. I love it. I h I think
that if you're going to play them, you gotta have
some you gotta have some weirdness. Now, now you do it.
And my son's got MLB.
Speaker 7 (19:19):
The show for the Nintendo Switch and now if you
want to play, you you just fire it up on there.
Speaker 2 (19:26):
Yes, that's it's exactly right. So yeah, this is uh, yeah,
it was.
Speaker 1 (19:31):
It was great back then though, Strata Man I actually
had and this is years ago. I had the inventor,
the creator of strata Matic on this show once and
then it was fascinating.
Speaker 2 (19:41):
It really was.
Speaker 9 (19:41):
That's pretty cool. That's that's honestly, that's pretty cool.
Speaker 2 (19:46):
Yeah, it was. It was fun.
Speaker 1 (19:48):
What wasn't cool is Joe I don't panic and freak
out other than one of that called must wins in
week number one, must win situations as I normally do. However,
I understand this is the preseason, but man, so much
of what we witnessed last night is so much of
what we have witnessed here in recent history that has
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led us to be positioned and following this team where
it is right now. Like there were moments with Tyler Warren,
there were some moments with a couple of other players,
but a lot of what we witnessed last night I
felt was the same and disappointing.
Speaker 7 (20:25):
What say you, I, I think I think that's probably
probably fair.
Speaker 5 (20:30):
I don't know that other outside of Warren, I don't
know that. Uh oh, you know what JT.
Speaker 7 (20:35):
Kueimolowaw I'll give There were some there were some interesting
stuff there.
Speaker 5 (20:39):
There were a few flashes from individual guys. I think.
Speaker 7 (20:43):
You know, people were asking me what I thought of
the way Daniel Jones, Riley Leonard played.
Speaker 5 (20:46):
I thought, it's it's pretty much.
Speaker 7 (20:47):
But being what we've seen at camp, you know, Jones
is going to to generally make the smart play.
Speaker 5 (20:55):
You know, some drops.
Speaker 7 (20:56):
Affected him yesterday, but he's not necessarily going to make outside.
Speaker 5 (20:59):
Of that one thrown a Doolan the extraordinary play. Riley
Leonard has been kind.
Speaker 6 (21:04):
Of scattershot in camp.
Speaker 5 (21:06):
It was kind of what we've seen. And then obviously
you have you have Richardson's injury and the play that
led to it.
Speaker 1 (21:14):
Yeah it yeah, Well tell me this the way you're
thinking right now. And you've been up there for every
snap and he went to Baltimore for every snap. You
were there for every snap last night. And this is
kind of an honor because real life commander of Apollo thirteen,
Jim Lovell, has passed away at the age of ninety seven.
Speaker 2 (21:35):
I think we learned that yesterday. I think he passed away.
Speaker 1 (21:38):
But he had a great quote in the film Apollo thirteen,
all right, and his gen Krantz, his flight commander, had
the quote, what on the ship is good?
Speaker 2 (21:48):
What do you see on the ship that is good?
Right now?
Speaker 1 (21:53):
Moving forward to those like me, that would suggest there's
a lot.
Speaker 2 (21:57):
Of the same old, same old happening presently.
Speaker 6 (22:00):
Well, I think one thing.
Speaker 7 (22:02):
I think one thing that we're just not going to
see in the preseason that we're gonna have to I'm
not saying to necessarily get excited about it, because there's.
Speaker 5 (22:09):
No guarantees with it.
Speaker 7 (22:11):
But one of the things that I think we need
to remember in the preseason is that lou Ana Rumo's defense,
like all.
Speaker 6 (22:17):
Defenses, are simple in preseason.
Speaker 7 (22:20):
But here's the thing about like Matt Eberfus's defense and
Gus Bradley's defense, they were.
Speaker 5 (22:24):
Simple in the regular season too.
Speaker 7 (22:26):
That they jumped from from preseason to regular season with
those guys, they were.
Speaker 6 (22:30):
Doing more game planning, more stuff.
Speaker 7 (22:33):
But for the most part, those are simple, static defenses.
Speaker 9 (22:37):
We're not going to see anything.
Speaker 7 (22:40):
That we can judge lou Ana Rumo's scheme on at
this point. We're just not His whole thing is based
on game planning. They're not really going to game plan
for these teams, I think in terms of that question,
because I got that a couple times yesterday. Hey, the
defense doesn't look much much more interesting at all.
Speaker 5 (22:59):
Well, he's not gonna do that right now.
Speaker 7 (23:02):
That's he's he's gonna wait till they get to the
actual games to game plan those out. So that one,
that one I've kind of just set on the back burner.
I need to see it once things start for real.
And he's actually, you know, doing what he was hired
to do, which is come up with the sort of
game plan specific type stuff.
Speaker 5 (23:22):
I think one of.
Speaker 7 (23:24):
The other things is just the joint practices. The joint
practice looked a lot better than the game. You feel
better about that from an offensive line standpoint, uh, because
they were actually playing the ones.
Speaker 9 (23:36):
That's one of the other things about One of the
other things that happens to these these.
Speaker 7 (23:38):
Joint practices that have exploded across the NFL is that
now we're not.
Speaker 9 (23:42):
Seeing the ones go against the ones in the preseason.
Speaker 7 (23:45):
It's it's three ones and seven twos and one to
three going against something some other combination on the other side,
And so that that takes a little bit of it.
Speaker 5 (23:56):
Now on the flip side.
Speaker 7 (23:59):
I think some of the stuff we saw at quarterback
and I think this is why you know this is
pretty much suggested what I wrote is if you were
looking for reasons not to believe in the quarterbacks, or
reasons that these quarterbacks are risking to begin in the
first place, it was.
Speaker 5 (24:13):
All there for you.
Speaker 1 (24:15):
That's Joey Erickson the Stars on the Andy Morre Automotive
Group plotline. Back to back practices this weekend at Westfield
at Grant Park and then obviously Saturday, preseason Game two
against Green Bay, I would agree with you on the
whole philosophy on defensively in the preseason.
Speaker 2 (24:35):
The one thing that did.
Speaker 1 (24:36):
Stand out there were again a lot of mistackles preseason
game number one, I understand, but this has been a
very unbecoming trait that you know still you know on
preseason game number one was an issue last night. Hopefully
that goes away unlike it did not over the course
of the Gust Bradley era.
Speaker 10 (24:57):
Well, and I think one of the other things that
made I made a mental note of early in those
drives is, you know, we're supposed to be looking for
linebackers because that spot is open next to Zaire Franklin
and Joe Boschi has the interception.
Speaker 5 (25:11):
But there was a lot of rushing yards with that
first group.
Speaker 7 (25:14):
There was a lot of rushing yards that first group,
and that's to me, that's.
Speaker 5 (25:18):
That's the question mark for the linebackers. That's the question
mark for the backup tackles.
Speaker 7 (25:22):
You know, I when Grover Stewart and the Forrest Butner
are in there, I'm less concerned.
Speaker 5 (25:27):
But you know, in the past couple of years, whenever
Grover Stewart's gone out, teams.
Speaker 7 (25:32):
Have gone oh wait, nineties out let's run right there
at the guy behind him, and so I still have
some questions about whether or not they have the guys
to to, you know, do something closer to his level
once they go out in the run game.
Speaker 5 (25:46):
And then you know, the other thing.
Speaker 7 (25:48):
The other thing from the defense, I think is a
very real concern is something we learned after the game
that Justin Way tore his ACLU, and all of a sudden,
this cornerback issition that they really did put a lot
of resources into this offseason is suddenly thin again after
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them trying to make it as deep as possible. I
think that that second spot, that second starting spot on
the outside is suddenly a pretty real concern.
Speaker 9 (26:18):
With Wally being out, Jalen Jones.
Speaker 7 (26:21):
As a somewhat to some level of degree serious hamstring injury,
and then Juju Brent is also dealing with a hamstring
injury and had his own injury history. That was three
guys competing for one spot and all three of them
are currently sidelined.
Speaker 1 (26:35):
Yeah, that is beyond problem that I'm assuming some move
or moves forthcoming. I mean, do they need to dive
into that trend a free agent pool at some point
here with the situation you find in that defensive secondary
they kind of already.
Speaker 5 (26:53):
Have by bringing in Trey Herndon and Duke Shelley. Those
are guys who have played.
Speaker 7 (26:56):
A lot of football but have been kind of bouncing
around for a little bit here. If they're going to
make a signing or an acquisition, that's a difference maker.
It's going to have to be at the end of
training camp, like when they got Womack last year, because
all those guys are on. All the rosters are still
at ninety right now. I do think that if you're
the Colts pro scouting people that this preseason you are
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looking at corners all of a sudden and you weren't
really expecting to it.
Speaker 6 (27:23):
It's one of those things that is.
Speaker 5 (27:25):
Actually a position.
Speaker 7 (27:26):
You know, they signed somebody in free agency, they made
a lesser signing and free agency that didn't work out.
Speaker 6 (27:31):
With Corey Valentine.
Speaker 5 (27:32):
They drafted a guy on the first two days.
Speaker 7 (27:34):
They really did put some resources into that position, and
now injury has made.
Speaker 5 (27:38):
It thin again.
Speaker 1 (27:40):
So Joey Erickson on the Andy Moore onto Monti group plotline.
Have we here recently seen the real A d Mitchell
stand up or is this kind of a fac simile,
if you will, of what we saw a year ago
with moments that ultimately led to a rookie season regular
season disappointment.
Speaker 7 (28:00):
I still want to see a little more when things
are for real. You know, there were there were signs
last year in training camp, you know, passes thrown by
Joe Flecko that went to nowhere where you assume that
it's probably the rookie receiver and probably not the thirty
nine year old quarterback making the mistake.
Speaker 5 (28:20):
There were a handful of those. Through the first week.
He looked good.
Speaker 7 (28:26):
He looked good in the joint practice. He's looked good
for about a week and a half now.
Speaker 5 (28:30):
But you still you still.
Speaker 7 (28:32):
Want to see it from him once it's for real
and teams are game planning and it's the real corners
out there and all that stuff. I'm interested to see
how he does against the Packers this week.
Speaker 2 (28:44):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (28:45):
I And and speaking of that, Joel, the plan was,
you know, starting Daniel Jones, but then general Jones is
almost like you know, he started because Richardson went down
with the picky situation. How does that change the plan
you think for preseason game two a week from tomorrow
against Green Bay.
Speaker 7 (29:05):
My best guess is that Stiken just kind of inverts
what his plan was. His plan was for Richardson to
start and play a quarter and a half before giving
way to Jones. I wonder if Jones makes the start
and gets two drives essentially against Green Bay, and then
Richardson gets the rest of the half, that would seem
to me to be the most obvious way to kind
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of make it even in their minds. I'm not expecting
the Packers to play a lot of people because of
the joint practice. Shane Stiken has already kind of hinted
that he's going to follow the same plan with his
most important players, so I'm kind of not expecting the.
Speaker 5 (29:43):
Packers to do it.
Speaker 7 (29:44):
So that to me seems like if you're trying to
make it equitable, the plan was to start somebody and
play in the quarter and a half, but unfortunately, because
of the injury, Richardson started and played two series. It
seems like the easiest thing to do would be to
have Jones start play too.
Speaker 9 (30:00):
Series and then give the rest of after Richardson.
Speaker 2 (30:02):
How did Daniel Jones look to you last night?
Speaker 7 (30:06):
I think that's a lot of what we've seen in camp.
You know, he's gonna make the right throw. A lot
he's gonna make.
Speaker 5 (30:14):
He's gonna a lot of it's gonna be accurate.
Speaker 7 (30:17):
You know, if he was plagued by some drops last night,
I counted at least four.
Speaker 5 (30:22):
That should have been caught.
Speaker 7 (30:23):
So if he gets those, he's looking at more of
a thirteen to twenty one type of game. I think
in a game planning situation, that's going to get that
accuracy and stuff is going to.
Speaker 5 (30:36):
Give you a little more in terms.
Speaker 7 (30:38):
Of completion percentage because Psychen is going to be attacking
an offense in a way that he wasn't last night.
But I just don't know that we've seen at any point,
and including last night, you know, sort of the extra play,
I don't know he's going to elevate what the Colts have.
Speaker 5 (30:54):
And on the deep ball, I.
Speaker 7 (30:55):
Still need to see him be consistent enough on that
to really take advantage of a guy Alec Pierce down
the field.
Speaker 5 (31:02):
But I think what you saw is it's going to.
Speaker 7 (31:05):
Be fairly consistent like it was last night. You know,
the ball is going to be fairly accurate. I just
don't know that you're going to get a lot of
extra from him.
Speaker 2 (31:14):
Yeah, no, anything else stand out to you.
Speaker 1 (31:16):
Maybe we haven't discussed both good and bad from last night, Joel.
Speaker 7 (31:21):
I think I think the thing that that I've come
away with is is not so much the injury with Richardson,
but why the injury happened.
Speaker 5 (31:31):
And I know that this has been.
Speaker 7 (31:32):
Debated all over you know Colts fan base that today,
but like to me, when you see guys like Kurt
Warner or Chase Daniel, these former players online saying that
this is something that's day one install that the quarterback
and quarterbacks are gonna make mistakes.
Speaker 5 (31:50):
But to me, there's a concern there that that that
you you.
Speaker 7 (31:54):
You've got something that is apparently a very basic part
of the offense, but you should know what the offensive
line's gonna do.
Speaker 5 (32:02):
You should know that that guy's taught and you don't
get it out.
Speaker 7 (32:05):
I to me, that's a concern because that's the kind
of play that in the regular season. You know, last night,
in the preseason there's an injury. An injury is obviously
paramount because of Richardson's injury history, but that same play
in the regular season without an injury, that could be
an enormous.
Speaker 9 (32:20):
Sack, fumble or a huge play.
Speaker 5 (32:23):
That has nothing to do with the play call.
Speaker 7 (32:25):
It has everything to do with the execution or the
lack of execution on the quarterbacks part. That's to be
stuff like that, and coupled with the injury. That's why
there's an open competition because you can't have that kind
of stuff. It's tough to game plan and put something in.
Speaker 5 (32:44):
When they when they game plan these things.
Speaker 7 (32:46):
Like they put in a new play, but it's not
like they just put in that play. They go, well,
this defense does this bunch of stuff, so we're gonna
put this in for this situation.
Speaker 5 (32:55):
But if they come out in a different coverage, you
have to be able to switch it. Like you've got
to be on top off of all.
Speaker 7 (33:00):
That stuff and not have, you know, not have a
a situation like last night where you you just you frankly,
you know, if the response the rusher was your responsibility
and you missed him and and you ended up taking
a big blow.
Speaker 5 (33:15):
Because of it.
Speaker 2 (33:16):
Yeah. Man, it's just it is just so much the
same with him.
Speaker 1 (33:22):
It's it's just hard not to think that what you're
gonna get even further down the road, because I will
say this, Joe, I still think that he is regardless. Well,
unless there is another injury and it takes him out,
or all of a sudden there is a gap that
widen's canyon like that there's no choice but to start Jones,
(33:42):
I think regardless. Still, it's going to be Anthony Richardson
coming up in week number one.
Speaker 7 (33:48):
He has he has the like he's got the upside.
Speaker 6 (33:52):
He's got the upside.
Speaker 7 (33:53):
But I think I think the thing that's nagging at
me today is that that play showed that there's a
bigger downside to him as well too, And I think
that's probably a tough thing to weigh as a coach.
Speaker 5 (34:04):
You know, it's it's yes.
Speaker 6 (34:06):
You can get, You're going to get.
Speaker 5 (34:09):
I mean we've seen it.
Speaker 7 (34:10):
When he starts, you're going to get played that you
feel like maybe three or four other guys could make.
But are you also getting plays that most quarterbacks wouldn't give.
Speaker 5 (34:22):
Up to the defense.
Speaker 9 (34:24):
And that can.
Speaker 5 (34:25):
Look like an incompletion, that can look like an interception.
It can also look like a sack.
Speaker 7 (34:29):
It can also look like what it was last night,
where a pressure isn't recognized and that leads to a
negative play like that stuff. I think is the tough
part because that downside is bigger. You get a bigger
range of things that can happen with Richardson. But he's
his feeling is obviously higher than Jones.
Speaker 5 (34:49):
This to me.
Speaker 1 (34:52):
He spent four years in Milwaukee on the left side
of that enfield and had a career high in nineteen
eighty six with nine home runs. Let's thank Ernest Ryles
for joining us on the Andy Moore Auto Motive Group potline.
Ernest Ernest Ryles guy, not.
Speaker 6 (35:14):
Not Ernest Ryles, more of a pat List Dash guy.
Speaker 2 (35:17):
Oh you like list Yeah, well everybody liked List Dash.
He was a bass dealer.
Speaker 1 (35:20):
She was kind of a multi dimensional Were you big
on Dale spam everyone?
Speaker 5 (35:26):
Yes, yes, everybody's big death.
Speaker 2 (35:28):
Yes, you know who? I liked a great deal and
I always found it kind of unique.
Speaker 1 (35:33):
Bj Sirhoff, who was a highly regarded player, started out
as a catcher, really multi dimensional on his own right,
and I think made made a lot of noise early
because I want to say he was on that nineteen
eighty five USA tam USA Olympic team that had Larkin
and you know mart mcguied a bunch of notables back
(35:54):
then as well. I believe I just kind of lost
my train of thought. Now who am I?
Speaker 5 (35:59):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (35:59):
BJ, Sirhow off? Were you a big BJ? Sirhoff guy?
He was from the Bronx New York, was he not?
Speaker 2 (36:04):
That's odd?
Speaker 7 (36:05):
I believe I believe BJ were the number one tick
in the eighty five raft.
Speaker 1 (36:12):
J If you look back at the eighty five that
eighty five t USA team had a no like O
to B. McDowell played center field for that team in
eighty five TUSA, Remember ODEB McDowell.
Speaker 6 (36:24):
Long time, long time, break right.
Speaker 1 (36:27):
Correct, and in Texas, I think is where he he
started as well. But I just remember getting all those
cards back in nineteen eighty five.
Speaker 2 (36:36):
It was eighty six when I got those.
Speaker 7 (36:38):
I had a ton of ODBB McDowell, and I had
a ton of all those guys. Mine mine were probably
a little more nineties, but uh yeah, b J.
Speaker 2 (36:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (36:49):
It's it's a miracle that I'm a Brewers fan, because
I I think I first started watching like they were
okay in ninety two, But most of my timechildhood was
like the dark, dark dark. Playoffs are no possible, like
losing one hundred games Brewers teams.
Speaker 2 (37:08):
Was I was twenty.
Speaker 5 (37:11):
Twenty two years old before they were.
Speaker 9 (37:12):
In the playoffs.
Speaker 2 (37:15):
Well, and they were at the time in the American
League East.
Speaker 1 (37:19):
And you know, even with Don Mattingly, that was the
time right when when the Yankees still scuffled and wasn't
playing well. I think Boston obviously in eighty six went
to the World Series, but you know, there were some
opportunities that were never met. I love coming on and
going old school Brewers with you because I can do
this absolutely all day long.
Speaker 5 (37:41):
I always think this is what I always think about
growing up and being a Brewers fan.
Speaker 7 (37:45):
There are a lot of fans who are like, you
know what, I don't care how long it takes, burn
everything to the ground with whatever.
Speaker 5 (37:52):
Coming they are and I don't. And they're like, I
don't care how long.
Speaker 7 (37:55):
We're bad, And you know what, it's fine to say that,
but it's another thing to actually do that for more
than a decade, you.
Speaker 2 (38:04):
Know, Mike.
Speaker 7 (38:06):
It's another thing to go, Okay, well we're gonna blow
it all up and we're gonna be awful, and we
don't like it might take us a decade and a half.
Speaker 5 (38:15):
Let me tell you, in year seven and year eight
of that decade.
Speaker 2 (38:18):
And a half.
Speaker 5 (38:19):
That gets a lot harder than you think it does.
Speaker 1 (38:21):
Right now, Joe Colts fans been watching this group since
twenty fourteen.
Speaker 2 (38:26):
Feel the pain.
Speaker 1 (38:27):
Let me tell you that, righty here, there's no doubt
about it. Feel the pain, hey man. I always enjoy
the conversation more than you know. It is good to
see you last week. I'll see you on Monday and
then again on Thursday. Coming up next week at Westfield.
Thanks Joe, you bet, you bet.
Speaker 5 (38:42):
We'll see you later.
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