Best Of JMV 9-24-25

00:00 - 8:00 - Nate Atkins, former Colts beat writer who now covers the Los Angeles Rams for The Athletic, joins the show ahead of the Colts showdown with the Rams in Week 4! Nate and JMV discuss the Rams tough loss to the Eagles, and if they will come out motivated against the Colts.

8:01 - 34:11 - Mark Patrick joins the show, and he and JMV reflect on the life and legacy of Nancy Leonard. They talk about the legendary telethon she put on to help save the team here in Indianapolis.

34:12 - 42:38 - Jason Logan from Covers.com joins the show to talk about the betting odds for Colts vs Rams!

42:39 - 55:17 - Lance McAlister from 700WLW in Cincinati joins the show, and he and JMV vent about their Reds and the lack of success this season.

55:18 - 1:04:13 - JMV talks to Pat Boylan, television voice of the Indiana Fever! Pat and JMV discuss the Fever’s playoff series against the Aces, currently tied at 1-1, and what the Fever have to do to advance to the next round!

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Are they Addy More Automotive Group hotline that used to

(00:03):
be here in Indy, used to cover the Colts for
the Star. He's now with the Athletic and he's out
in southern California basking in the glow with nothing but sunshine. Well,
the sunshine starts about noon out there. Nate d Adkins
joins us as he covers the Rams. Now, Hey, Nate,
thank you for the time. How are you enjoying Southern California.

Speaker 2 (00:24):
Yeah, it's been fun so far.

Speaker 3 (00:26):
It's been different being on a totally different time zone
than most of my friends and families, so it's forced
me to get up a little earlier than I like to.
But that's okay, and it's been sunny. It's sunny right now,
and yeah, it's it's been an adjustment in a whirlwind of.

Speaker 2 (00:40):
The last three weeks.

Speaker 3 (00:41):
But here we are.

Speaker 1 (00:43):
So speaking of the adjustment, the Rams are going to
have to make one and getting the Colts coming.

Speaker 4 (00:49):
Up on Sunday.

Speaker 1 (00:50):
You got to come back from a game that was
an absolute gut punch. I mean, it's one thing to
the betters out there, which was one of the bad
beats of the.

Speaker 4 (00:58):
Season, no doubt about it.

Speaker 1 (00:59):
Maybe even the worst in that loss of the way
that it went down in Philly, But bouncing back from
a game that most certainly they should have won, sometimes
that can be easier said than done.

Speaker 3 (01:13):
Yeah, I think it can be in certain instances. But
I don't know the vibe I get from this Rams team,
and they just have this air about them that they
kind of expect to be a playoff team. And you know,
they really wanted to beat the Eagles, certainly because not
always at the next game on their schedule, but they've
lost to them now three times in the past calendar year.
It's how their season ended last year, so they wanted

(01:34):
to finish that one out and make that kind of
a statement. But I think they have the belief that
they're going to see these guys again. Everyone in the
NFC kind of has this idea that the road goes
through Philadelphia, and how could you not when they've won
nineteen of the past twenty games. They're defending champs, and
the Rams felt like they validated a lot of what
they wanted to show in that game, as far as
being able to run on Eagles, being able to stop

(01:56):
Stake one Barkley, and being able to just really move
the ball a lot, and they just look at a
lot of areas that they can get better at, and
so I think they're going to move forward just fine.

Speaker 2 (02:07):
There'd be some other teams I think.

Speaker 3 (02:09):
That that really felt like they had to win this
one to make the playoffs that might look at it
a little differently. But this team kind of has just
a little bit of that expectation about then that'll help
them out a little bit.

Speaker 2 (02:19):
I think.

Speaker 1 (02:21):
Nate Atkins of the Athletic he's in Southern California, covers
the Rams. He's on the Andy More Auto Motive Group plotline.
So try to put two and two together. Your thoughts
on the Colts, and I know that they've changed since
you've changed zip codes, but your thoughts on what you
have seen through three weeks of this Colts team and
that matchup, which I think we can all agree is
going to be the toughest matchup they've seen so far

(02:44):
in LA coming up on Sunday.

Speaker 3 (02:48):
Yeah, throw nice of the Colts to get good. Right
as I left the Beat, you know, I was there
for four seasons and didn't see a playoff game, And
right now I think the Colts are very much in
front to make the playoffs because they're three and zero,
but because the Texans are zher and three and it's
outside of them. It's just such a manageable division.

Speaker 2 (03:07):
And you know, I know the Colts.

Speaker 3 (03:08):
You know, it's been three games against three not great opponents.
I think Denver's all right, but the other two opponents
certainly are not in a good spot.

Speaker 2 (03:17):
But because the Colts credit for in.

Speaker 3 (03:18):
Those other two games against the Dolphins and Titans for
really taking it to them. You know, we've seen the
Colts in the past couple of years when they would
go up against bad teams, they'd often beat them, and
they couldn't beat the good ones so much. But even
when they would beat the bad teams, they'd kind of
survived them. I think back to like last year when
they beat the Dolphins and they won a game like
sixteen to ten against Tyler Huntley and Tim Boyle, and

(03:42):
you know, it just not like they survived these teams
that didn't have anything going for them, and it was
hard to really extrapolate that to believing in that team.
But this Colts team was going out and just pummeled
the Titans and pummeled the Dolphins. You know, and the
way that they're doing it on dolphinse I think is
got to be the most encouraging where all that we've
lot about what the team. I've said for a while
I thought the upside of that offense was very high

(04:04):
because of the growth of the skill players, and we
know what John Vian Taylor can do, but really just
the addition to Tyler Warren just really diversifies that offense
and then you're seeing what three really good receivers can do.
It was all about the quarterback play and could they
get good enough there. And I had questions admittedly when
I was on the beat about Daniel Jones because of

(04:26):
what he's shown in this league. But the argument that
the Colts always came back with was he just didn't
have the offensive line of protection in New York and
he will have it here.

Speaker 2 (04:36):
And so far, I.

Speaker 3 (04:37):
Think that's what's come together the most for the Colts.
They're protecting Daniel Jones incredibly well, and he's just been
a very smooth and safe operator in the past game.
And then when they have that, I knew their run
game could get really good because you've got a mobile quarterback.
The run thread of that with what looks like a
very healthy and explosive jobthan Taylor. So they're going to

(04:57):
face the tougher test with the Rams, especially the pass
rush that I think they've seen for most of their
opponents so far, which you have to be really encouraged
that they've got kind of this well balanced team right
now that they've not had the pass because they haven't
had the quarterback play.

Speaker 1 (05:12):
It's Nate Atkins covers the Rams for the athletic it
is the Colts of the Rams coming up on Sunday afternoon,
four oh five. We start around one enough for the
Colts pregame huddle right here on ninety three to five
and one seven. He before I let you go, I
happen to think Jared Versus is one of the better
defensive players, certainly if you want to describe it as
up and coming, but I think one of the more

(05:32):
impactful defenders you're going to find from an individual basis
in the NFL right now.

Speaker 4 (05:38):
What have you seen so far out of him?

Speaker 1 (05:40):
Because if you're looking for one guy that can bring
a little bit of devastation, I mean, the Rams have
always had somebody like that. That one individual is Verse
next up on that front, for the Rams defensively, Yeah,
I think.

Speaker 2 (05:56):
He's getting there for sure.

Speaker 3 (05:57):
You know, last year he was a defensive Rookie of
the Year even though he always finished four sacks, he
had more than seventy pressures and really took over in
the playoffs. And this year has been an adjustment for
him with other teams just you know, game planning for
him more. And his production isn't quite a high, but
his impact is high, and it's opening things up for
guys like Firing Young and Josiah Stewart, and they just

(06:21):
have a really good all around pass rush. I think
it's gonna be the best that the Colts have gone
up against because they saw Nick Bonito, who you know,
we know what he could do based on the matchup
last year. But the Rams have this kind of overall
package around Jared Verse that and they'll move him around.
They'll move play him on the left side, they'll play
on the right side, they'll overload certain sides to get
him one on one matchups. All the stuff they used

(06:42):
to do with Aaron Donald they're doing for Jared Verse.
And so I think that's that's gonna be where the
Colts have to hold up the most. Is that we
haven't seen Daniel Jones have to operate under a lot
of pressure, and the RAMS can do it without blitzing.
Teams that blitzed Daniel Jones hasn't worked. I don't think
the RAMS will have to blitz. I think they'll get
after it with their pass rush and we will see
if he's up to the task.

Speaker 4 (07:05):
That is Nate Adkins, he's of the Star.

Speaker 1 (07:07):
He's on the Andy Moore out Sorry, he's formally of
the Star.

Speaker 4 (07:12):
Of the Andy Moore Automotive Group pole Line.

Speaker 1 (07:14):
He is at the addle Headache now, sorry about that, man,
I knew it was going to happen that way.

Speaker 4 (07:19):
But hey, we miss you around here.

Speaker 1 (07:21):
But but your input regarding the RAMS this weekend is
certainly much appreciated. You have a great weekend out there.
Maybe show some of the people that are going out there,
like the Joel A. Erickson's and such of the world,
a good time in southern California this weekend.

Speaker 2 (07:35):
Okay, for sure, miss you guys.

Speaker 3 (07:38):
Good to catch up again and excited to see some
people I used to see every day that they're not
to miss a little skit more. And uh, you're excited
to see what col Steam can do too.

Speaker 2 (07:49):
They look like a pretty fun group.

Speaker 1 (07:52):
You got it, Nate, Thank you very much, Nate Adkins
of the Athletic on the Andy Moore Automotive Group pod
line on.

Speaker 4 (08:01):
The Anymore Automotive Group pile line.

Speaker 1 (08:02):
We recognize the significance in the passing earlier today, as
it was announced by the Leonard family of Nancy Leonard
at the age of ninety three and joining us for
the first time in a while, the legendary MPOs the
big chair, the grandfather, and I want to say, the

(08:25):
grandfather of Field of Dreams. I don't know if you'll
appreciate that right now, Mark Patrick joins us. Now, Mark,
thank you this afternoon for being a part of the show.

Speaker 4 (08:34):
How you doing.

Speaker 2 (08:37):
JMV. I used to work with a guy j.

Speaker 4 (08:43):
Any related I think, yeah, I think we grew up together.
But I shed a little bit of the former JMV.

Speaker 1 (08:52):
Wait in a much better spot here at the age
of fifty five that I used to be.

Speaker 2 (09:00):
Well that they had to pay you for you to
figure it out?

Speaker 4 (09:05):
I did, man? Did they? Hey? Mark, I know you'll
appreciate this. I swear to you. I walked in there on.

Speaker 1 (09:11):
Day number one a year ago in June and said, quote,
you know, I'll do this, but I don't think I
need to lose any weight. Eighty pounds later, evidently I did.
I've lost eighty. Yeah it is. I had no idea.
How fat I was? I guess so I went to

(09:32):
all that it is all. Uh, it has come full circle. Yeah,
I wear the same that I did in nineteen eighty four.

Speaker 2 (09:42):
Wow, I didn't know anything, but I'll take your word
for it.

Speaker 1 (09:48):
Yes, thank you, Mike Patrick and MPOs I talked to
the kid a little bit earlier.

Speaker 4 (09:55):
Today.

Speaker 1 (09:55):
He's working and we see a field of dreams making
ride after stride.

Speaker 4 (10:01):
It seems on a monthly basis.

Speaker 2 (10:05):
Were you checking out the accounting or what?

Speaker 4 (10:08):
No, that's why I hear. Yeah, that's what I hear.

Speaker 1 (10:11):
Hey, was this your idea with the under the baseball
player thing on the bottle cap?

Speaker 4 (10:19):
There? No, that wasn't yours. What was your idea any
of it?

Speaker 2 (10:25):
I don't know. I mean there are things, but I mean,
you know, I am a noted alcohol officionado GMV, so.

Speaker 4 (10:37):
I say this all the time. I don't know if
this is still the case or not.

Speaker 1 (10:42):
Somebody said, did Mark drink and I said, he once
upon a time told me when ball State played in
the ninety NAA tournament, you had quote a shot of beer.

Speaker 2 (10:55):
And Bob Kavoyan, Bob Kavoyan gave me a shot of
beer when they won and made the Sweet sixteen. And
that's the only drink I've had in my life.

Speaker 4 (11:09):
You've never had Field of Dreams.

Speaker 2 (11:11):
No, No, I've purchased. I've purchased several bottles to you know,
give the people. But no, I've never never had a drink.
I'll have to before I die, I think, But.

Speaker 4 (11:27):
Well, would you mind?

Speaker 1 (11:30):
Well, and I fully expect you to live forever, to
be honest with you, but would you mind when you
have that first drink?

Speaker 4 (11:37):
Can I be in the room? Can I be there?
Would you mind?

Speaker 2 (11:41):
Yeah? That you know, I mean, as many bar gigs
as you're doing. It would seem like a natural fit.

Speaker 1 (11:48):
It very natural fit. And I listen, I remember the
places I used to go. I bring up Chalky's all
the time. Chalky's. Remember Chalky's in Castleton. It was non
smoking venue. And I think that's the only reason why
you went because it was non smoking.

Speaker 2 (12:05):
That's the only reason why I would go.

Speaker 4 (12:07):
Yeah, Yeah, it was. It was some good stuff back then.

Speaker 1 (12:11):
Hey, the other thing I wanted to get at and
I sent you a text a little bit earlier today.
I thought that you would have some really good input
on the influence and the impact that Nancy Leonard had
on this city in sports. Since you were a part
of this for so many years at the highest of levels,

(12:33):
What did Nancy Leonard mean to you in terms of
where Indianapolis is in sports today?

Speaker 2 (12:40):
Mark, Well, honestly, it's it strikes me that it's so
strange to me, having lived through it, that it took
probably forty forty five years before people recognized what she did,

(13:03):
you know. I mean, she came from an era where,
you know, women were really a second banana. They were
brought up to be the supporter of their husband. And
there was no greater supporter of slick as everybody knows
than Nancy. But you know the old cliche about behind

(13:26):
every successful man, there's a successful woman, and she was
amazing and and you know, she just had I think
if she had been born fifty years later, I think
we would be looking at the CEO of Lily or
some giant corporation because she was that smart. You know,

(13:51):
a lot of people didn't know that she was as
she used to tell me stories about teaching school in Kocobo,
you know, and you know, because that's kind of what
females were expected to do at the time. That was
one of the professions. You know, she met Slick at
Iu and they were never a part after that, but

(14:16):
she was, you know, she was amazing. And all the
things we see in Indianapolis. Now, by the way, this
last week had been phenomenal to be a HOOTERI just
watching all the colts and IU and the theater and
all the things that go on in the city. But honestly,

(14:39):
I don't think any of it is there if that
telethon doesn't save the Pacers in seventy seven, and you know,
from all accounts, Nancy was the driving force behind that.
She came up with the idea for it, and it
was you know, it made that whole thing might be
the most who major event ever because there was nothing

(15:03):
hoke here. You know, we had we had we had
four canals and only three if you lived on the
north side of Indianapolis, but you know we would get four.
We got Channel four pretty fuzzy out there in the
bird and I can remember I think it was the
fourth of July weekend after my senior year of high school.

(15:26):
I hadn't even gone to ball State yet, and I
think people were glued to that thing, and it was
it was an amazing deal. They needed to sell eight
thousand season tickets. I can remember Nancy coming on there
and saying, we've sold eighty twenty eight and you know,

(15:46):
it was everybody. Oh, it was crazy. And it wasn't
like a telethon where it was a pre pre pre
done deal where you know, okay, you know, I'm sure
you've been part of telethon's where they go, yeah, we're
going to raise one point two million this year and
you go, how do you know that number? You know?
And they do. But then they had to get to

(16:08):
this eight thousand season tickets thing, and Nancy came up
with the idea the telethon And was it hoki Yes?
Was it one of those things that people outside Indianapolis
look at and say that is so hick. Yes? Was
it one of the greatest things in the history of Indianapolis.
It made Indianapolis because without that, without the Pacers, the

(16:31):
colts don't come here, Downtown doesn't get developed to the
extent it did, and we certainly don't become, you know,
the amateur sports capital in the world either, because so
many people that were involved with getting sports going then
in the late seventies and eighties and nineties, you know,
brought all these organizations into town as well, started the

(16:56):
Sports Corporation. So, you know, if you want to go
head and points finger at one person, I'd say it's her.

Speaker 1 (17:04):
So Mark Patrick, the legendary MPOs, the big chair, he's
on the Andy Moore Automative Group potline, and I was
thinking about the same thing he just brought up. You
were a graduating senior in nineteen seventy seven over in
Brownsburg and have yet to ship off to Muncie. What'd
you think about what the future did hold for the

(17:26):
NBA and the Pacers at that point, you know, prior
to that telethon, did you think basically all was going
to be lost on that front with that team before
that took place.

Speaker 2 (17:39):
It's hard to describe now to anybody who wasn't alive
then how unimaginable it was to lose that team, because
you know, they were only you got to remember, they
weren't even ten years old then. I mean, we'll sit
here and quote you know what was going on here

(18:02):
ten years ago with the Pacers like it was yesterday.
But that's how you know that the Marcus Square Arena
was only a few years old and it's been built
specifically because the Pacers had so outgrown the fairgrounds. Can
I'll sum And it was a you know at the time,
it was a taj mahal. So all of a sudden,

(18:24):
the thought of nothing being in there and nothing happening downtown.
And you know, of course high school and college basketball
is always going to be huge, but Indianapolis was not
going to be a major league sports team and that
that man, you know that that was just crazy to
think what am I going to do? You know, what

(18:49):
am I going to follow during professional basketball season? And
you know the telethon changed all that.

Speaker 1 (19:00):
Patrick, he's on the Andy Moore Automotive Group potline. It is, Yeah,
it is amazing where you would view you know, both
Nancy and Slick for that matter, in what they meant,
because we just think about you and I oftentimes mark
in terms of sports, but it is so much more

(19:20):
than that, the impact that they both had in leading
the charge to make sure that that team stayed here
and then everything else happened because without that, you know,
we're probably paying attention to eye you Purdue and high
school stuff, and so much of this that we know
today is ultimately Mark never realized well, and you know,

(19:43):
you don't.

Speaker 2 (19:44):
Want to downplay what Herb and mel Simon did because
they came along at an unbelievably tough time. But without
Nancy and Slick, nothing ever gets to that point to
make the team available for the Simons. So you know,
it's what's what's really to me intriguing about that time

(20:06):
was that Nancy got no absolutely no credit, you know,
I mean, Slick got all the credit because he was Slick.
And you know she she was fine with that, you
know she was. She was always happy to stay a
half step behind her man. And but people that knew

(20:29):
them and loved them, you know, knew how smart Nancy was.
I mean, things like Slick doing commercials, that was her,
that was her call. You know, she was like, yeah,
don't do commercials. He's like, oh, oh, nobody's going boss
up for me. He said, no, you don't do commercials.
Do whatever you think is right. You don't have fun.

(20:53):
And I mean, he was you know, he was hurt
when the Pacers fired him as coach, and it was
Nancy that really got behind him said, look, you know
when the radio opportunity came up, she said, do it.
You know this is a different group of people. These
aren't the people that fired you, so do it. And yeah,

(21:15):
it was just things like that that you're never gonna
at the time realize what an impact she was having.
And that's what she was doing, you know. And she
wasn't making basketball moves when she was the general manager
from seventy six to eighty whatever that time frame was
in there. But you know, she was really helping fiscally

(21:40):
that team stay on its feet because they weren't making money.
That's for sure. It's not like the TV or that
we've lived in for the last forty years.

Speaker 1 (21:50):
And Mark Patrick, who is with us, we're talking about
the passing at Nancy Leonard. Earlier today, I was announced
by the Leonard family at the age of nine. MPOs
is on the Andy Moore Automotive Group pileline and I
brought this up. I think some of the better moments
and I know that you are watching wherever you were

(22:11):
this Pacer run this past postseason, and certainly the most profound,
most memorable moments would to me have been of after
they beat the Knicks, and the players and the personnel,
the coaching staff and everybody coming up to her and
embracing you know, because of that moment. When you look back,
I think it is great. You want the Pacers to

(22:33):
win it all, and certainly they were a game and
Achilles away from doing that, you would think. But at
the same time, the fact that she got to witness
that and be a part of that, I think makes
that run that spring into the summer even more special well.

Speaker 2 (22:50):
And I think that that also plays to the point
of what I said earlier about it took that long
for people to realize what she meant, and especially for
young people, you know, the anybody who wasn't alive during
that time. I suppose it's like reading a history book

(23:13):
and seeing her name and going, oh, I know who
she is, and you know, on on top of all
these things that we've talked about, we are also talking
about one of the most generous, loving when ever invented.
I mean, there was never ever something negative coming out

(23:39):
of her mouth. It was just amazing. At any time
anybody saw, and there's going to be you know, with
her passing, there's going to be so many people that say, oh, well,
I was good friends with Nancy because she always made
you feel that way, and you know, always, you know,

(24:01):
always left saying you know, I love you, and you know,
from somebody that's just a friend, you're always kind of
startled by that. But then it's a regular thing, and
you knew she meant it, you know, in her own way.
And and so there are there are man, hundreds of

(24:22):
thousands of people out there grieving today. Who's her last
words to them were I love you? And I'm one
of them.

Speaker 4 (24:34):
So, Mark Patrick, are they anymore?

Speaker 1 (24:36):
Automotive Grouple Line, m POS, the Big Chair?

Speaker 4 (24:40):
Where are you located today? Are you up here or
down there?

Speaker 2 (24:45):
I am? I am in South Carolina today.

Speaker 4 (24:48):
Okay, all right, because I know you're bounced back and forth.
Make sure I'm just.

Speaker 2 (24:54):
Trying to figure out I'm just trying to Yeah, I'm
just trying to figure out a way to say fifteen
percent of car insurance.

Speaker 1 (25:06):
Man, there's zero way you hadn't figured that out already.

Speaker 4 (25:09):
There's no way, none.

Speaker 2 (25:13):
Point take it.

Speaker 5 (25:15):
There's no way, you know, I love it because I
see Drew often talked to Drew often, especially he.

Speaker 1 (25:26):
And Uh and tuck Man. This is uh, this is
a hell of a time for you, isn't it. I'm
always gratified to see you just kind of I don't
know how to put it, wallowing in the greatness of
where you are right now with grandkids and enjoyment and such.

Speaker 4 (25:44):
It looks like you're having a hell of a time. Mark.

Speaker 2 (25:48):
I just did the math, and if I add up
all three weights from Drew's kids, they still don't equal
to eighty pounds.

Speaker 1 (25:55):
You lost, no doubt, no doubt. But you wait, you
wait till I who's is Drew going to coach him up?
Or you offer any coaching? Or are you the pat
on the back grandfather?

Speaker 2 (26:13):
That's a you know, that's a very difficult thing. Yes,
and so I if I'm asked, I'll help. Otherwise I'm
just giving the old pop pop applause.

Speaker 1 (26:32):
Good for you, good for you. So hey, how often
are you up here? I know you're not too far.
I'm gonna pickle on ten, which is you know, basically
around one, sixteen and ten, and Carmel, you're not you
stay up here a lot right, pretty pretty near where
I am.

Speaker 2 (26:51):
No, I mean we're up there. I'd say we're up
there for a week every three months something like that.

Speaker 1 (27:01):
Oh, okay, that's not bad. Well, yeah, that's good. Now
are you still in vending Stone? You're still the bob
Villa of Appalachia down there in South Carolina?

Speaker 2 (27:13):
Yes?

Speaker 4 (27:15):
Yes, what's your what's your latest creation?

Speaker 2 (27:19):
I am Uh. I just redid the whole the entire
front yard of my house. I decided I was tired.
Oh this, this will not sit well with you. You're
not going to believe it. I decided I was tired
of cutting grass.

Speaker 1 (27:39):
No way, Wait a minute, who is the a who
was really on the phone. This is not Mark Patrick
on the phone with me right now?

Speaker 4 (27:47):
What it's me Rich Little?

Speaker 1 (27:54):
You're tied of cutting gra I cannot believe you just
said that. I listen, if you would have said I
just took a shot a field of dreams, I would
believe that more than what you just said about not
mowing any longer.

Speaker 4 (28:05):
Right, So shock.

Speaker 2 (28:08):
Yeah, so I actually made flower perennial garden on the
entire front lawn here. So yeah, that's the extent of
my excitement.

Speaker 1 (28:24):
A man, Well, I know you're still keeping track of
all the sports, as you just talked about. Heys You
ever think, is it like the bizarro world when you're
watching all you football these days?

Speaker 2 (28:36):
You know, it is so it is so out of
this world that I can't even comprehend it. And you know,
people have It's interesting to watch the different people. I
want to almost use bipoleons.

Speaker 4 (28:56):
Oh, the pundits.

Speaker 2 (28:58):
Watch the pundits who talk about IU because they've got
no idea, no idea where they came from. I'm like,
how can you get what I was in football forever?
I mean basically since nineteen sixty seven. You know, there

(29:18):
were there were years every once in a while and
Bill Mallory jumped in and it was passable. But you know,
not not. It's just crazy that they are. I mean
that that game against Illinois, I'm still sitting here. Hang
on a minute, you just scored again. Yeah, I mean

(29:42):
I kept waiting for the other shooter drop in that one,
and then you realize, no, the other shoes not around anymore.

Speaker 4 (29:51):
Well, I think about it too.

Speaker 1 (29:53):
I kind of wonder, going back to the early two thousands,
if Heidi flies when you used to have her on
to picks every week would have gone with Illinois or
I you what do you think? Can you believe you
had Heidi flies on every week to pick games?

Speaker 2 (30:11):
Oh? Yes, I can. Do you remember here's here's here's
one of the greatest stories ever, the original idea, the
original idea for picking games. And this was for and
Ron sext and the greatest we've ever known. Did you know?

(30:39):
Among being a genius with Donnie Baker and Jerry Jones
and so many great voices, he did the guy, he
did the carpet guy. Remember that I do? Yes, yes, commercials.

Speaker 4 (30:57):
Yeah, now that you bring it up, did Yeah?

Speaker 2 (30:59):
He get that guy dead on. So he was. He
was he would do a segment uh NFL games on
carpet and he would do it as that guy, and
it was hilarious. So I said, hey, let's do you
know you have the carpet guy do the games on carpet.

(31:20):
Let's see if we can get uh, Tommy Chong to
do games on grass.

Speaker 4 (31:29):
Yeah I remember, and so yeah.

Speaker 2 (31:32):
So so we finally get a hold of Tommy Chong
and he he said, yeah, man, what's the concept? I said, Hey,
you know, you guys are legendary for your bits, and
so we're will you know, I'll write everything for you.

(31:53):
All you got to do is read it. And you're
you know, Tommy Chong, Cheech and Chong voice Games on
Grass and and our you know, our Fox Sports Radio
had given me a certain amount of money I could
pay him, and uh, he goes off on me. He
goes he, Man, I'm over there, man, that's not who

(32:18):
I am anymore. Man, I'm an actor. I don't I
don't you know that that that was, That was an act.
That was maybe you know, my reputation. That's not who
I am now, man, you know, just screaming at me.
And so I'm like, okay, and it wasn't. Two months

(32:38):
later he was arrested for drugs. And now and now
and now he and Sheech have their own gummies. Yeah
oh yeah yeah, but didn't want to pitch games on Grass.

Speaker 1 (32:55):
It's full circle right there with Games on Grass with
Mark Patrick. That is m p o S the Big Chair, Well,
the Andy Moore Automotive Group, Potline. It's always good to
hear from you, now, always good. Thank you very much
for coming on and talking regarding Nancy Leonard. You felt
perfect for that role today and I can't thank you enough.
It's great to talk with you, and hopefully here relatively soon.

Speaker 4 (33:18):
We'll see you at some point. I see your son
all the time. Hopefully I see you.

Speaker 2 (33:22):
What is uh? I just want to know what your
next self improvement project is because I don't I don't
see anything left. You got the hair, you got, the
weight loss.

Speaker 4 (33:33):
I gotta have eyes.

Speaker 2 (33:34):
I don't hear it.

Speaker 1 (33:37):
Well, no, it can always be better, probably, but no
it eyes and ears are next, Mark, eyes and ears. Yeah, okay, yeah,
eyes and ears. Hey, I appreciate you. We'll stay in touch.
It's great to hear from you. My best to the fam,

(33:57):
and uh, hopefully I see you soon.

Speaker 2 (33:59):
Mark, proud of you as always.

Speaker 1 (34:01):
JAMV, thank you, buddy. It's MPOs No the any Moore
Automotive Group. Well that always gets me right there. Jason
Logan is with us, So I think the focus is
going to be on the Colts and the Rams. The
Cults are three and oh the Rams, Jason are coming
off a massively disappointing loss on the final play of

(34:23):
the game in Philadelphia to the defending Super Bowl champion Eagles.

Speaker 4 (34:28):
What's your thought going in to this, not only.

Speaker 1 (34:32):
In particular on the field, but the lines going into
this Sunday matchup in southern California.

Speaker 6 (34:38):
Yeah, this is a really interesting matchup because we are
starting to see the betting markets buying into what the
Colts are doing. Not only are the Colts one of
the handful of three and oh teams, but they're the
only three and oh ats team because of the surprising
results to start the season. And what we're seeing, at
least from the pointspread perspective, is this line which was

(34:59):
as big as six and a half before the season
started and the Colts went on that tear to wins to
start the season. This one opened at three and a half,
it stayed at three and a half with that half
point hook holding onto the field goal. So right now
Colts plus three and a half a half at LA
and then the total is another thing that we're seeing
two pretty modest numbers from the Colts. Early on saw
some lower totals in the mid forties. We saw this

(35:20):
one open forty as lowest forty seven on Sunday night,
and now it's up to fifty points. So we are
seeing the betting market and better start to buy into
what the Indianapolis Colts are.

Speaker 1 (35:31):
So Jason Logan of covers dot Com, he's on the
andymore on the motiveproof plotline. Hey from the outside looking in,
Like we're on the inside looking out right here. But
are you a believer in the Colts with this three
and zero start? From your vantage point?

Speaker 2 (35:47):
You know?

Speaker 6 (35:47):
I always try to be a little bit skeptical of
early season results when it comes to sports betting. You
don't want to kind of fall in love with teams.
I think this is a very very telling game for
the Colts. It's going to be back to back road games.
They're facing their tough challenge in terms of a quarterback.
I mean, you look at the other quarterbacks that they've
played so far, not great. Matt Stafford is a big
step up in competition, and I mean Sean McVay is

(36:09):
also a fantastic coach and he's going to give the
edge on that sideline nine times out of ten. So
this is a very very telling game. And I think
too because the Rams played I'll say a playbook that had.

Speaker 2 (36:20):
Hints of Shane Stike in last.

Speaker 6 (36:21):
Week, because he is the architect of that Eagles offense
from a few seasons back. The Colts right there with
Philly in the way that they want to handle business.
They want to establish the run and then feed off
of that. And while Philly goes with like the RPO.
You know, we're seeing a ton of play action from
the Colts right now. So if they can establish the
run early on, they keep you guessing with the play

(36:41):
action passing. And I think that's a big reason why
Daniel joneses had this success, because teams really don't know
what's coming. So this is a step up in QB competition,
is a step up in defense as well to the Rams.
Despite what happened at the end of that Eagles game,
still one of the better defenses rating out right now
in the NFL.

Speaker 1 (37:00):
At Jason Logan of covers dot Com is on the
Eddy Moore Automotive Group online. I thought I would ask
you this too, Where would you start I don't know
when you start the numbers for comeback Player of the Year,
but through three weeks of the season, very early, where
would you slot Daniel Jones in that category?

Speaker 6 (37:19):
Well, at least according to the odds, he's right up there.
I mean, Christian McCaffrey is kind of the front runner
right now, but Daniel Jones is tied to the second
overall favorite, next to Dak Prescott, and they're paying about
plus four to twenty five to win comeback Player of
the Year. And we were talking about that a little
earlier today on our podcast to Sharps at Center, and
we were saying that, you know what constitutes player of

(37:40):
the year like or sorry, comeback player of the year.
Do they have to be you know, injured in the
coming back or do they just kind of have to
fall off the face of the earth like Daniel Jones did.
So I still got to see the exact requirements for
comeback Player of the Year, but he's right into the
mix there through two weeks football.

Speaker 1 (37:58):
Jonathan Taylor is not come back, but probably in the
running for a Player of the Year nod and so
on and so forth. So you're putting a lot of
impact both go to bad on the Colts and who they.

Speaker 4 (38:13):
Really are from this game.

Speaker 1 (38:14):
And when you compare that, I guess I look at
Denver as also impactful. The difference is, you know, that's
a game the Coats probably should have lost, but it
was at home. This is different on the road in
southern California for this team for the second time this season,
but for the first time against a really good team.
This is going to be the ultimate gage I think
early season right moving forward with this.

Speaker 6 (38:36):
Team, Yeah, I believe so, because I mean, after this,
you've got some winnable games here. You're at home to
Las Vegas, You're at home to Arizona, which is just lost.
James Connor, you have a very idea of it. Have
to go back to la in week seven to play
the Chargers. But then you've got Tennessee and you've got
Pittsburgh in Atlanta, two teams that's you know, are unforming

(39:00):
right now, and then you got to buy in week
eleven to set yourself up. Now, the home stretch of
the season is probably going to be their biggest challenge.
There's a lot of road games there, a lot of
uh there's a few outdoor games as well too, So
you take this team that is probably used to playing
those indoor fast tracks and you put them outside. So
there is going to be you know, a clearer pass

(39:21):
right now to get them to that week eleven buy.

Speaker 2 (39:23):
And then and then and then it gets.

Speaker 6 (39:24):
A little tough from week twelve to to week eighteen,
especially if the Houston Texans can figure some stuff out.

Speaker 1 (39:31):
So Jason Logan of covers dot com, Hey, give me,
give me one bet at the start of the season
that shocks you that it's working right now, and then
one that doesn't look so good through three weeks of
the season to this point.

Speaker 6 (39:49):
One bet that I made personally.

Speaker 2 (39:51):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (39:51):
One No, just a general yeah, just general odds on
something that might be going haywire. And then general odds
on on a bet that may be going well. I'm
assuming the Colts are probably at the top of that
list somewhere.

Speaker 6 (40:04):
Yeah, let's talk about the Colts. Let's talk with their
AFC South odds. They were plus three seventy five entering
this season. They had a win total of seven and
a half with the under faded to minus one fifteen,
so they were expected to kind of, you know, battle
at the bottom. I think Tennessee was going to be
the low bar there, but they were. They were in
a fight for second place in this division, and they

(40:24):
were plus three seventy five. Now they are a minus
one fifty odds on favorite to win the AFC South.
Still a lot of football, and then their win total
went from seven and a half under was faded to well,
now it's over ten and a half wins the overplaying
plus month fifteen, so they're I'll make you're saying right
now that you know if the Colts are on track
and win this division, and they're on track to win about.

Speaker 1 (40:43):
Ten games, Jason Logan, he's on the anymore on a
motive group plotline, so that kind of dips our toes
in the water for weeks and months ahead.

Speaker 4 (40:54):
I hope you don't mind, Jason. Are you okay with that? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (40:57):
Absolutely?

Speaker 6 (40:58):
Youah me back, I'll talk Colts. I'll football with the
India of the week.

Speaker 1 (41:02):
Hey, I am curious though, before I'll let you go,
what are your pacer odds going into the start? Because
we're not too far from the start of the NBA season,
a little over a month away right now, what are
your what are your pacer odds? And don't piss me
off because I might get mad, Pacer.

Speaker 6 (41:17):
I mean my personally, I have not thought about NBA
for a while. But I can give you the odds
right now, and okay, it might it might piss you
off a little bit. They're far down the board right now,
so you know your favorite in Oklahoma City, Cleveland's up there,
Denver's up there, the Knicks, the Lakers tend always hang

(41:38):
around Houston with Wister Aunt in tow. And then we
got to go scrolling, scrolling, scrolling. Indiana Pacers plus eight
thousand right now to win the NBA Championship. That is
way behind the Bucks. You're looking like you're in line.
You're you're somewhere between the Bucks and the Raptors right now.
Obviously the Albert and injury has a lot to do

(41:59):
with that.

Speaker 4 (42:00):
They have no doubt about that.

Speaker 1 (42:01):
I listen, I think they're going to be competitive this season, Jason.
I don't think they're going to win any championship for
being a championship level, but I think they're going to
be competitive.

Speaker 6 (42:13):
So that's style of basketball that they play, that trenetic
caase that they play in the deepness of that roster.
I mean, that's going to give them a chance to
win basketball games. And if you're not ready to run
with the Pacers, especially early on in the season, you
could see them jump out and maybe put some people
on their heels.

Speaker 4 (42:30):
Jason, good to have you back, man. We'll do it
again soon.

Speaker 6 (42:34):
Absolutely, you guys.

Speaker 2 (42:35):
Enjoy the weekend.

Speaker 1 (42:38):
Meantime. On the Andy Moore on the motif group Potline.
He knows the mean streets of Carmel, Indiana, as well
as any of our guests on this show from the
Queens City and Cincinnati, following the Reds and the Bengals
and all that is over in Cincinnati, Ohio and the
surrounding area. He is Lance McCallister, the Big One, seven
hundred WLW.

Speaker 4 (42:58):
Hello, Lance, how are you?

Speaker 7 (43:00):
I am well, I just looked it up. You were
exactly four miles from my old stomping grounds on in
Briar Creek Place. We were off of a keystone in
one hundred and six, lived at Briar Creek Place, where
the Grumbocker's driveway was home plate, the Kruger's mailbox was
first base, the man whole cover was second base, and
the Dalton's mailbox was third base. Those were the days.

Speaker 4 (43:24):
That is beautiful. Now, are you a pickleball or Lance?

Speaker 7 (43:29):
Not yet. I will admit to the intrigue by the
way you have described your involvement in it, so I
may have to take that next step.

Speaker 2 (43:37):
I was.

Speaker 1 (43:39):
I played for the first time earlier today, and I
feel that I have somewhat of a knack for this.

Speaker 4 (43:44):
I'm more of a hooper.

Speaker 1 (43:45):
I still played basketball all the time, like for four
days a week or so, so I still do that,
but I think I have a knack for it.

Speaker 4 (43:52):
I'm going to do it again. It was a good time.

Speaker 1 (43:54):
So maybe at some point we have to introduce you
to pickleball.

Speaker 4 (43:59):
What do you think? Oh, how about that?

Speaker 2 (44:01):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (44:02):
Yeah, you know.

Speaker 7 (44:03):
But the real question you say you feel fine, The
real question will be how you feel when you wake
up in the morning.

Speaker 4 (44:09):
I feel great. I do listen. I've shed some weight.
I sleep much better now.

Speaker 1 (44:16):
Blood pressures normal, so I yeah, I haven't felt this
good since the nineteen eighties. Lance, and we had a
damn good time in the nineteen eighties, you up here,
me and Southern Indiana one hell of a time.

Speaker 4 (44:28):
We had no doubt about that.

Speaker 7 (44:30):
My blood pressure was fine until about the seventh inning
last night, when the Reds grounded into a double play
in the seventh, a double play in the eighth, and
a double play in the night. The Kapa disasterrous evening.

Speaker 1 (44:41):
Let me tell you this, And the cowboy says it
all the time, and I concur I'm so sick of
watching this group swing at bad pitches.

Speaker 4 (44:50):
Why do they swing at bad balls all the time.
It drives me nuts.

Speaker 2 (44:54):
It's amazing.

Speaker 7 (44:55):
Last night was the fifty first game this year they'd
scored two runs or fewer fifty one times two one
or no runs. It's unbelievable.

Speaker 1 (45:07):
I don't I guess I don't get it because they
so many times, and it was just time after time
they were grinding into double plays last night watching that game.
But you have this opportunity and it presents itself to
you and you're unable to take advantage of it, but
still not learning lance from the season in which they

(45:30):
swing at so many balls out of the strike zone
is somewhat mine numbing to me.

Speaker 7 (45:37):
And you couple that with the fact they don't hit
home runs. I think they're twenty fourth of the majors
at homers, and based on Tito's decision to scale back
the run game, they were third in baseball last year
with two hundred and seven steals. This year they are
twentieth in baseball with one hundred and four steals. So

(45:57):
they don't hit home runs, they don't steel bases. They
do pitch, but the rest of it leaves you wanted to,
you know, beat your head with a mallet yeah.

Speaker 4 (46:07):
It was. It was tough last night.

Speaker 1 (46:09):
However, I wonder how many people that are Reds fans
out there. Lance predicted how last night would go down
on both ends, really north side of Chicago and in Cincinnati,
how that went down.

Speaker 7 (46:22):
Yeah, you know this, It's funny. The running joke with
this team is how many times have people counted them out?

Speaker 4 (46:28):
And I think the.

Speaker 7 (46:29):
Average fan around here would say, well, Lance, it's probably
at least five or six times I counted them out
this season. And there was great drama and build up
in anticipation. This city was buzzing yesterday. There was a
great walk up crowd. They put on a ticket promotion.
They had nearly thirty thousand in the house, and then
they delivered that and a lot of people walked out
of the ballpark saying they're done. And yet I don't

(46:51):
think it'd surprised anybody really, truly if they found a
way to beat the Pirates tonight with Paul schemes on
the mound, because it's the it's the DNA of this,
It's all over the place. Just when you think you
got them figured out, they go and do something that's
the exact opposite.

Speaker 1 (47:06):
And the thing they don't do is just it take advantage,
and they kind of like reeled me back in a
little bit.

Speaker 4 (47:13):
I was done for a while.

Speaker 1 (47:14):
Then they had that series against the Cubs, and you know,
then you say there's a chance, and you just kind
of predict last night, and really on both ends, I
mean what the Mets did after being down five or
six runs against the Cubs and then obviously the Reds
just being so awful offensively and getting Paul schemes, as

(47:36):
you mentioned later on.

Speaker 7 (47:37):
Tonight, Well, the Mets have tried their damnedest to just
hand this thing over to the Reds and say here
do you want it. I mean, the Mets lost seventh
straight in June, they lost seventh straight in August, they
lost eight straight this month, and on one hand, you say, wow,
the Reds are only a game back. But the real
statement to be made is how the hell are the

(47:58):
Reds not taking advantage of any that's been handed to him.

Speaker 4 (48:03):
That's last McCallister.

Speaker 1 (48:04):
The Big One covers, the Reds covers the Bengal sees
on the Andy Moore Automotive Group plotline. So you mentioned
schemes tonight, and the Hunter Green I believe gets the
ball for the Reds.

Speaker 4 (48:15):
I want to go back to his last outing.

Speaker 1 (48:17):
When would that compare to recent memory of just absolute
Reds starting pitching gyms?

Speaker 4 (48:25):
Because that was masterful. It really was.

Speaker 7 (48:28):
I mean, all things considered, the time of year, the opponent,
what they were up against, what they needed. He goes
out and offers a complete game, one hit shutout, throws
one hundred and nine pitches, was hitting one hundred and
one and a half in the ninth inning. His fastballs
in the ninth averaged one hundred miles an hour. And
when he gets the final out of the strikeout, he

(48:49):
throws both hands up into the air. The crowd rises
his one, he pounds his fist. I mean it was
great cinem a, great theater. I mean the hair standing
up on my arms as I'm describing it.

Speaker 2 (48:59):
It was.

Speaker 7 (49:00):
It was everything that they thought and hoped he would
be when they drafted him as their first round pick
out of high school. What's six seven years ago?

Speaker 1 (49:09):
Is he going to be consistent with his health or
is that just something that you really are going to
struggle to count on across the board with anybody in
Major League Baseball.

Speaker 7 (49:21):
I think it's your second point. I think in this
day and age, you know, the Reds one account on
Hunter Green. They want to count on Nicolodolo, they want
to count on Andrew Rabbit. But it's like join the
you know, join the conversation everybody has around Major League Baseball,
who can give you thirty starts? I mean Brady of
all the Reds pitching, Brady Singer has been their most

(49:43):
consistent pitcher because he's been their healthiest and he's given
him Last night, it wasn't a great start, I see,
but I think that was his thirty first start last night.
And his track record is exactly why they got it.
Went out and got him because he stays healthy, he
gives you thirty starts, and he throws, you know, one
hundred and fifty five sixty five innings, and that's what
they needed because everybody else wasn't able to give them

(50:04):
that lance.

Speaker 4 (50:06):
Even with the chance that they have right now.

Speaker 1 (50:08):
Las McAllister covers the Reds and the Bengals all Cincinnati
Sports seven hundred WLW and then some over in Cincinnatis
on the Andy More Automotive Group plotline. But even with
this late season surge of putting themselves in postseason possibility position.

Speaker 4 (50:24):
How would you view this season for Cincinnati.

Speaker 7 (50:29):
I find it I think I get some pushback on this.
I find it disappointing. I mean, there was so much
made of Tito's impact that he was going to have
on this team. The reality is we're sitting here tonight
trying to be excited about being the sixth best team
in the National League. And maybe I'm skewed because I
grew up in the Big Red Machine era, but I
think your hopes and dreams and aspiration should be higher
and than be the sixth best team, meaning three division

(50:51):
winners and being the third wildcard in the group. That's
what they're fighting for right now. That's not enough. This
team is right around five hundred and they, you know,
the sinks around here would say that they as an
organization have mastered this approach that they do just enough
to keep things interesting, keep people engaged, and kind of

(51:14):
wonder right around that eighty to eighty three, eighty four
win mark, maybe around seventy eight. And when you're in that,
the way the game is played today, you've got a
chance to be in it into September. And I think
the cynical side he is growing in this city of
when are they going to do more than just that
type of approach.

Speaker 4 (51:35):
Lace mccallister's with us.

Speaker 1 (51:37):
You had mentioned that the fanga, the fan base got
all excited about the game last night, So after the
end result took place, how are you going to gauge
that later on tonight? I'm I'm assuming with Green and
Skeins being the pitching matchup, that that place is going
to have a lot of people there, correct.

Speaker 7 (51:54):
I would I would think so now rain is Rain's
been an issue. I think it's going to be okay tonight,
but it's still threatening what they did and for this series,
the final home stand of the series, they offered eight
dollars ticket deals and they do it three to two
one where they offered deals on beer and the hot
dogs and popcorn. And their average attendance this year is

(52:17):
about twice six but on Monday through Thursday nights, I
bet it's closer to fifteen or sixteen thousand. Last night
they drew twenty nine and there was an electricity in
the air. And I think as disappointing as it was
last night, there's still that thought of man, there's still
only one out, but it's Paul Skemes tonight. Can they

(52:39):
figure out a way to beat him? He's faced them
three times or four times. His earned run average against
him is zero three to nine.

Speaker 4 (52:46):
Man, that's uh, I mean in the go ahead.

Speaker 7 (52:51):
Now here's what's crazy. Here's your stat of the day,
and it's what everybody hangs their hopes on because their
pitching is so damn good. And if I had a dollar,
every time I've said or somebody said, man, if they
can just get into the postseason, figure this one out.
The Reds this year have a winning record in series
against the Cubs, the Mets, the Podreys, the Diamondbacks, the Yankees,

(53:13):
the Tigers, and the Guardians. And yet they have losing
records this year against the Marlins, the Braves, the Nationals,
the White Sox, and the Angels. It is maddening.

Speaker 3 (53:25):
Man.

Speaker 4 (53:26):
That is so Reds though, right.

Speaker 2 (53:32):
Right?

Speaker 1 (53:33):
So that feels like, hey, Lace mccallison joins us. Before
I'll let you go, I didn't want to ask you
one question. We're going to the Bengals, is this thing
going to circle the drain here? Regarding Joe Burrow being
without him and Jake Browning, and we saw what took place.
I think they're on the road in Denver this week. Yep,
that's problematic, it would seem.

Speaker 7 (53:54):
Yeah, that's the You've hit on the question everybody's asking
right here, and I asked today. Is this it was
Sunday a blip? Or is it the new reality for
this team without Joe Burrow. I mean, it's hard to
comprehend what they did on Sunday. They've played eight hundred
and fifty regular season football games. They've been coached by
the likes of David Shula and Bruce Coslet. They've been
quarterbacked by the likes of David Klingler and Achille Smith.

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What they did Sunday they've never done. They lost by
thirty eight points, the worst mersion of defeat in the
history of the franchise. Having lived through the nineties with
this football team, that's almost impossible to comprehend, and yet
they did it.

Speaker 1 (54:33):
He is the toast of Carmel, Indiana, growing up not
too far from where we are right now. Pickle on
ten and Carmel, Lance mccallis, or you can hear all
of his dialogue no.

Speaker 4 (54:44):
Matter what it is.

Speaker 1 (54:46):
Seven hundred WLW earlier across the radio landscape over in
Cincinnati A lances on the Andy Moore Automotive Group plot
line where here's hoping that the Reds do a little
something for us letter all tonight and maybe the Cups.
See I got a little bit of lore for the
Cubs over the weekend too, for the first time ever,
the way that they got swept by the Reds. But

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it will love for him last night. That was pretty typical.

Speaker 2 (55:09):
It was.

Speaker 1 (55:10):
It was Yeah, Lance, I appreciate you, buddy, thanks for
jumping on.

Speaker 4 (55:14):
You got it.

Speaker 2 (55:14):
Thank you.

Speaker 1 (55:16):
Meantime and the Andy Moore Auto Motive Group fileline, the
voice so the fever, and I'm sure that Pat Boyler,
who joins us now has some words regarding the impact
on the legacy of Nancy Leonard and Pad joins us now. Hello, Pad,
And it's been a tough day for Pacer fans and
in particular just people that are fans and from the
state of Indiana and in this particular area because of

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the significance of that family and Nancy Leonard, the stories
and the reason behind we are able you and I
talking about sports around here right now all started.

Speaker 4 (55:52):
We would not be here doing this without Nancy Leonard.

Speaker 8 (55:55):
Well, that's absolutely true. And good to be on with you, John,
And I'm sure that people mark patrick and sum it
up better than I can, but I think she's one
of those people and click as well. That just transcends sports.

Speaker 2 (56:08):
Now.

Speaker 8 (56:09):
Of course, you know so much of what Nancy and
Slick did involve basketball in the Pacers, but as you
were touching on there, she's the reason if you had
to pinpoint one person, she's the reason why the Indiana
Pacers are still the Indiana Pacers, while why they're still
here and we don't know what happened with other pro
franchises if this one doesn't succeed. And because of that,

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if you're a fan of this city or even this state,
even if you don't like sports, Nancy Leonard's impact is
profound because her seeing this team here has allowed Indianapolis
downtown to grow in ways that you know, a lot
of similar sized cities haven't been able to grow. So
it's unquestionably a sad day. I look at it as well, John,

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as she lived to be ninety three years old. Couldn't
we all be so lucky? And the amount that she
squeezed out of life in those ninety three years is
just remarkable. So While certainly it is sad to lose
a legend like her, I also kind of look at
today and kind of feel a little bit happy because
the last moment that I remember of her was walking

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off the court celebrating the Eastern Conference Finals championship. And
to look back at everything she did for this city
and everything she meant. She brought so many smiles and
good memories to people over the years, and that's going
to be her legacy, and that's how I think, not
only myself, but so many will remember her.

Speaker 4 (57:37):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (57:38):
Pat Boyle then joins us the voice of the Fever
on the Andrew Morrow on the Motive Group pidline before
we get to that series, being even at a game
of piece.

Speaker 4 (57:45):
Mark and I discussed that too.

Speaker 1 (57:47):
I think when we want them clinch the Eastern Conference
Finals to advance to the NBA Finals, and all the players,
the coaching staff, the organizational fixtures come up and embraced
Nancy Leonard, I think was the best part of it.

Speaker 8 (58:03):
Path it was for me, I think, you know, for
somebody in her position at her age to still have
ad the ability to be there, but also the ability
to soak in a moment that you don't get very often,
but then also to just kind of really show the
impact that she has had around the organization. I mean,

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you talk to any player that has been with the
Pacers for more than a couple of years. Miles Turner
had a nice post today, of course, Tyree Halliburton. I mean,
not only do they know Nancy Leonard, but she's been
impactful in their lives and their careers. And to be
doing that, you know, all the way up until age
ninety three, is just incredible. And you know, as I
think back to that day, I think it was May thirty,

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first final day of May, when the Patriers flinched. I
mean that ultimately was one of the great days for
the franchise, one of the great days for her, and
I'm so glad that she was there and got to
soak it all in and enjoy all of it. And
you know, we all wish the Pacers would have won
the championship, but in many ways, last year's team was
the most successful NBA version of the Indiana Pacers, and

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they're not in the NBA if it weren't for what
she inflicted with the ABA Pacers. So all of that
has you know, kind of a more profound feeling now
looking back at her life and legacy just a few
months later.

Speaker 1 (59:25):
So Pat Boyling, all right, if Fever got done exactly
what they needed to accomplish in Vegas, coming back to
Indy for a Friday Game three, even at the game
of Piece, regardless of what took place last night.

Speaker 2 (59:37):
No question. Yeah, you know last night. Of course you
would have liked to go better. But when you face
the situation that you're.

Speaker 8 (59:43):
Facing, which is you're very shorthanded, you don't have home
court advent. If you're playing a team with a better
record than you, then if you can come away with
a split, you take that ten times out of ten.
I think, and I thought that Game one in Las
Vegas might have even been a game where the Fever
showed more Moxie employees than in the Do or Die
Game three in Atlanta, just because I think it would

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have been so easy to kind of take an xpale
out of that Atlanta game. I mean, you know, there's
a lot of people it probably didn't think a Fever
team without Caitlin Clark to make the playoffs, let alone
win a playoff series. So to win that Game three
in Atlanta, it would have been natural human emotion, I
think to x pale and enjoy it for just a
moment and a quick turnaround. Game one at Las Vegas,

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the team who had won I believe, seventeen of their
last eighteen games counting their playoff series, and to win
that game and fate and frankly to win it fairly
handedly was just a remarkable accomplishment. But in a playoff series,
you've got to wipe that quickly. It's a great win,
but you've got to win three of these. So yes,
they've done their job here and the situation now they're

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in is best of three to go to the WNBA Finals,
and you've got home court advantage, which is a pretty
remarkable sentence to be saying, considering this team had six
injured players, had eighteen suit up this year when they
started the year with eleven, and they of course don't
have their best player in Caitlin Clark. But as we
talked throughout the summer, this has been a team that

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has shown just remarkable resiliency and now they've got the
opportunity to come back home and you know, potentially get
to the doorstep and even across the finish line of
getting to the WNBA finals a place that they've been
three times in franchise history and haven't been since twenty fifteen.

Speaker 1 (01:01:26):
All Right, I thought that the Aces got physical last
night and they played with what was allowed from the whistle.

Speaker 4 (01:01:37):
I don't know, honestly, if it's going to be like
that again.

Speaker 1 (01:01:40):
That's going to be difficult, I think for the Fever
to match up against, and especially if they turn the
ball over and without the shot making we saw in
game number one that absolutely has to return. What else
can they do to take advantage of this Friday night
home date in game three?

Speaker 8 (01:01:56):
Yeah, I think you touched on the turnovers there, which
stand out to me when you look at most of
the great games this team has had this year, and
certainly this is true in the playoffs, that turnover number
has been really, really low, which is extremely impressive when
you consider that this team doesn't have any of the
point guards that they started the season with, or frankly
even ones that they brought in mid season, like Garry McDonald.

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They've done a really good job in their wins of
winning the turnover battle. And when you've got a situation
like this where you're playing a team that has four Olympians,
there were twelve players on the US Olympics team last
year that won a gold medal, and this one has
four of those twelve, but third of the rosters on
Las Vegas. You've got to do all the little things.

Speaker 2 (01:02:35):
To win a game.

Speaker 8 (01:02:36):
You've got to win the turnover margin, you've got to
make the shots that you get that are open. And
they do a terrific job of doing that in game one,
struggled in game two. I give Vegas a lot of
credit if the team with a loaded roster that responded,
I agree. They use their physicality to their strengths. The
Fever haves, led by Kelsey Mitchell, a whole lot of speeds,
so I think that's a potential counter. And then the

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other aspect of play here is just you know, this
dynamic that we win. And this happened from mid April
all the way to late June, and then I think
we saw another example of it last week on Tuesday
in that home game against Atlanta. Is just these these
home playoff games for PACs and now Fever have had
a way of lifting teams more than I think the

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average home game does in a playoffs here. So I
think you hope that you know you hit your shots
at rate you're more used to, you take better care
of the ball, and you use this home court advantage
to hopefully lift you here. And you know, Friday Sunday
I like the days of this as well. You know,
they're more convenient games to go to for people now

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that school has started. So yeah, you know, Fever Basketball
dot com slash Playoffs is where fans can go. We
do have good tickets still available and some affordable tickets
as well, and a great opportunity to come out and
be a part of this home court advantage and help
try to drive the Fever here to a w NBA Finals.
They still need two more wins to get there, but
they do have two home games coming up this weekend.

Speaker 1 (01:03:59):
That's that bull in the voice of the Fever on
the Andymore at the Motive Group pidline. Pat, I appreciate
you hopping on here. I know you've got some quick
notice right there, but we'll do it again soon and
we'll look for you coming up later on this week.

Speaker 4 (01:04:11):
Thanks buddy.

Speaker 2 (01:04:12):
Always good to be with my friend. Thank you