September 25, 2025 • 47 mins
00:00 - 12:06 - Aaron Taylor, the former Notre Dame offensive lineman now with CBS Sports as a college football analyst, joins JMV to discuss the Indiana Hoosiers and how their season has started out! They also preview IU vs Iowa, and talk about how IU QB Fernando Mendoza has performed through this point of the season.
12:07 - 22:35 - Colts wide receiver Josh Downs joins the show to talk about the Colts 3-0 start, the showdown with the Rams in LA, and more!
22:36 - 35:22 - Mike Chappell from FOX59 and CBS4 joins the show! Mike and JMV discuss the Colts vs Rams game, the start of the NFL season for the Colts, if Daniel Jones can continue to play like he has and more!
35:23 - 47:38 - Antoine Bethea, the former Colts safety stops by the Slippery Noodle! Antoine, Amp Harris, JMV and Brent all talk about Antoine’s time in Indy, the legacy of Jim Irsay and more!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Meantime with the Andy Moore Auto Motive Group pot line.
There is a lot going on in our next guest life.
Right now, he's breaking down college football and then some
CBS sports analyst former Notre Dame offensive lineman got a
concentration on IU, their first road test coming up in
Iowa City this weeknd and the rest of college football.
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He's very enjoyable to hear breakdown a game as well.
Aaron Taylor joins us on the Andy Moore Auto Motive
Group pot line. Hey, erin, thank you very much for
the time in Indianapolis.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
How are you my pleasures?
Speaker 3 (00:33):
Don I'm great man. If I was any better, I
couldn't stand myself.
Speaker 1 (00:37):
You know what, if you were a better you'd be
here with us right now. Let me guarantee you that
I'll call my shot on that right now. If you
were better, you would be here with us right now.
You get a lot going on here before we get
into the breakdown of IU and Iowa City coming up
tomorrow and the rest of the college football landscape.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
You got a lot going on with you right now
as well.
Speaker 3 (00:57):
I do. It's the season, as we to say, so,
it's just kind of something that you do, and one
of those things is called Trench Life, which is the
flagship YouTube channel for the Joe Moore Award. And basically
we had nailed creating college football's only group or unit award,
which is in our ten years of existence. But beyond that,
we wanted to look over the next decade about how
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we could elevate the offensive line coach position and shine
a light on the brotherhood that binds the most skilled
position in football, the big uglies in the trenches. So
Trench Life drops every day or every Thursday, i should say,
on YouTube at one o'clock. We've got a bunch of
social media stuff where we do a big ugly shot
light where we break down the games of the week.
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And that, fellas is where I called first for Indiana
to be able to dominate Illinois up front, because when
you put the tape on, you can tell that that's
the team that's built different. They're not just built to
go into December this year, They're built to go deep
into January. And I think Indiana could be the best
team in the country that nobody's talking about.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
Line.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
It's Aaron Taylor from CBS as well, joining us and
Andy Moore on at the mother group Pieline. So great
entry right here, and this was my thought. I talked
about this at Voice of the Hoosiers. Don Fischer comes
on with me weekly and he had said basically all
summer along he loved what Kurt Signetti did in revamping
and getting stronger that offensive line, and knowing with Mendoza
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the guy you brought in from Cal and now he
ran from his life a year ago really for Cal
good quarterback, but ran for his life the entire time.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
That was a point of emphasis.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
And it seems like what you just explained and how
they looked, especially last Saturday, Kurt Signetti has been on
target with the way he has replentied that offensive line.
Speaker 3 (02:44):
Bullseye, baby bullseye, bullseye, bullseye. And what's notable to me,
John is the fact that this year he's not chirping
as much. Now. He was feeling himself and got a
little big chest at at the halftime interview and then
a little bit in the post game. But this isn't
the braggadocious google me Signetti that we saw a couple
of years ago. This is more walk, quiet, carry a
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big stick, and man, they passed their first tests resoundingly.
And to your point, don't just take our word that
the old line's better. They'd rushed for three hundred or
more yards in every single game this season, including Illinois,
and most of those yards came in the second half
when they knew that they were going to shut it down.
But defensively, that front is extremely mobile, extremely active, and
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they whipped a very seasoned Illinois team up front. So
they're winning in the lines of scrimmage. But it's a
major upgrade. And another reason I knew Indiana was going
to win, and this is, with all due respect to Illinois,
they had a significant improvement and advantage at the quarterback
position in Fernando Mendoza. And it's just like sometimes boys
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like you get into a second marriage and it goes
a hell of a lot better than the first. Well,
Fernando Mendoza's proof positive of that in the football world
because he's playing out of his mind here in Indiana,
way better than he did at cow.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
That's okay, Aaron Brent Holerson here number one, that is
spot on, that impactful and analysis right there from here,
it really was, It really wasn't it spot on though? Right?
Speaker 2 (04:13):
I mean, if you look at him. He just say,
is a refreshed guy.
Speaker 1 (04:15):
Now the whole team, they're just operating all cylinders right now.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
They're going into Iowa, right it's gonna be tough.
Speaker 1 (04:21):
I always had a strong stout defense last couple of years,
not as strong as what they've had here.
Speaker 4 (04:26):
What do you think that's gonna How do you think
it's going to come into play with the way that
I use operating right now?
Speaker 2 (04:31):
Now do you see that rolling out?
Speaker 3 (04:32):
Well? Kenneck Stadium is one of the most difficult places
to play in the country. But this is an Iowa
team that is good, but not as good as they've
been over the years. So when you look out on
paper and you look at personnel, you look at what
these offenses have been able to do, you look at
the defenses and how they're built, Indiana is the better
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team on paper now, Fortunately for Iowa and Kirk Farns,
who's now the winning is Big Ten coach of all time.
Football league play on paper, it's played in the trenches.
So that's what I'm going to be watching. You've seen
the evolution of Gronowski, the quarterback that came in that
is now the most winningest NCAA quarterback on any level.
That happened a couple weeks ago. They're fining their throw game.
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They've got a run game and an offensive line that
is very season that plays in an old school way,
So they're efficient running the ball, not as dominant as
they may need to be if this becomes a shootout situation.
But as it is with Iowan, as it's been, they
win with defense and special teams. Phill Parker, their defensive coordinator,
does a remarkable job. But they've been a little susceptible
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on the back end. Rutgers was able to torch them
a little bit. They were able to give some big
plays for whatever reason. They played more man coverage now
than they have in the past, which may means they
might need an extra a hat in the box, if
you will, to help against the run, because they don't
look as stout as they were certainly last year in
the front seven, particularly at the line backer position, and
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also on the d line as well. So again, I
think I was going to show in there and play really,
really well, especially at home, and we know how sacred
that experience is. At the first end of the first
quarter with the children's hospital. But if Indiana shows up
ready to play. I think they should win that game handily.
Speaker 1 (06:20):
He is Anon Taylor, the former Notre Damer from CBS
and then some joins us on the Andy morri Automotive
Group pole line, and I want to concentrate on this.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
It's because his dad is a friend of mine.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
Dave Lock is the ad down at Ron Colly High School,
where my son attended, and one of his classmates was
Trevor Louch, who is a left tackle at Isle. And
one of the reasons why he ended up in Iowa
City was because of what they have done over the
years consistently in building up offensive lineman. Why have they
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been so good at that concentration and not just doing
it collegiately aerin, but building those offensive linemen to play
at the next level.
Speaker 3 (07:03):
Kirk Farrence. Kirk Farence, who came up underneath Joe Moore,
who was my college coach at Notre Dame and famously
sent fifty two guys to the NFL in eighteen seasons,
most notably at pitt where all the Hogs and Mark
May and Jim o'covert and Bill Fralick, Mark Stepnowski, jimbo
Covert like a laundry list of who's who of offensive
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lineman there, and then went to Notre Dame and never
had a senior starter that played for him that didn't
at least have a cup of coffee. Turned Andy hack
in one year from a tight end that played a
little bit into an All American left tackle that played
a double digit NFL career and is now the offensive
line coach for the Kansas City Chiefs. So that adherence
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to the belief and the basics and the fundamentals of
blocking and tackling, of not hitting sleds because sleds aren't
on football fields people are, of accelerating your feet on contact.
Because when he reversed engineered film, that's where he saw
the dominant blocks, where not the pitter patter over the
boards with a wide base, but with a tight base
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where you're running and your body's in a natural position.
An understanding of leverage up and down, inside out, pad
level up and down low man wins inside outside, gives
you points of strength where your legs move people, but
your upper body controls and steer them when you're upper
and lower are connected. Having an ability to time that
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perfectly where it shows up in both the run game
and timing your punch in the pass game is a
recipe for success with a laundry list of people, and
Trevor's going to be the next line, the next in
line of a long line of the Tristan Wurfs of
the world, where he gets the absolute best fundamental coaching
you can at the offensive line position. Maybe nowhere else
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better in the country than they're in Iowa City. Aaron.
Speaker 1 (08:53):
He such a great kid too, and I'm really proud
of him and what he's accomplished.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
But yeah, I would agree with you. You can tell.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
And I'm not an offensive line guru by any stretch
of the imagination, but you can just kind of see
him grow game after game and Iowa was hit.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
He really can.
Speaker 3 (09:09):
Yeah. George Barnett' they're on line coach man. He's an
old school guy and his interesting fellas. I did a
summer tour this year and we went to Iowa City
watching camp, and in practice you were watching them do
base blocks and fundamental drills. That's kind of the hard
positions specific stuff that each position does to begin the practice,
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and it's situational, and they were working on base blocks,
drive blocks, and they were taking the defender either ten
yards backwards or until they were on their back, and
Coach Barnett was coaching the defense. The scout squad, the
look Scott squad as hard if not harder than he
was the offensive lineman. So they weren't just backpedaling and
running out of there. They were giving real resistance. And
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the reason why is that you don't see mistakes until
you're under pressure. If you're not giving a good look
to the offen lineman, then he's going to be successful.
His bad habits won't show up. But if you give
him resistance and all of a sudden his arm goes out,
or he stands up, or he starts to widen his base,
now all of a sudden you can see the things
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that need to be corrected. And the reason you do
at ten yards or they're on their back is that
if you prep it that way, if the timing in
the brain and that muscle memory takes place at ten
yards are on the back, then in a real game situation,
you're going to get six yards. And here's where that's important.
Most other schools we go to go three to four
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yards and stop. And when you turn the game tape on,
when it matters they're only holding their blocks one or
two yards, and that's why you don't get near the
production or execution in some places as you do there
in Iowa City. And George Barnett is the next and
the long line of great offensive line coaches that Kurt
trusts to bring in to execute what that standard is.
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And that's been as consistent of a level of performance
at any position in college football we've seen over the
last three decades.
Speaker 1 (11:05):
I'll tell you what, between that analysis and the second
Wife analysis, we got to have you back on.
Speaker 2 (11:10):
There's zero away we cannot have you back on the show.
Speaker 3 (11:14):
I love it. Let me know, man, you know, you know,
impartial to or partial. I say the Indianapolis. I went
to Notre Dame. My dad lives there now, so there's
a lot of reasons for me to love on some inn.
Speaker 1 (11:25):
Well, let's let's do this again. Before we do that,
I want to make sure that everybody understands Trench life
where they can see it YouTube and all that is
going on. But yeah, hey, Aaron, let's make sure we
get you back on over the course of the season
and talk up more college football.
Speaker 2 (11:40):
You've been outstanding.
Speaker 3 (11:42):
Love it. Two things I want folks to do. Go
to YouTube type in Joe Moore Ward twenty fifteen. That's
our handle, and go get some donuts at Longs.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
No, there you go.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
Hold look at you hitting the spot right there, Aaron.
I want to have my producer James get in touch
with you. Outstanding work. Thank you very much, and we'll
do it again over the course of this season.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
Thank you.
Speaker 3 (12:02):
Appreciate you fellas.
Speaker 1 (12:06):
Joining us now the Andy Moore Automotive Group potline. Here
is the Colts wide receiver on the road a business
trip to southern California for the Colts late Sunday afternoon
against the Rams. Josh Downs joins us. Hey, Josh, thank
you very much for the time this afternoon. How you doing.
Speaker 5 (12:21):
I'm good.
Speaker 1 (12:21):
How are you three games so far? How you feeling
about yourself? How you're feeling about your team? Because it
has been some action packed excitement to this point of
the season.
Speaker 5 (12:31):
Yeah, man, we were looking really good right now. Just
want to keep that rolling. I think we're clicking on
offense and defense, and the only way to keep that
going is keep practicing hard every day and individually taking
care of your own business. So we just got to
keep doing that.
Speaker 1 (12:46):
You see that more than you have so far you've
been here. I think you bring up a good point, Josh,
individually taking care of your business, do you see that
more throughout the landscape of your roster right now than
you have in your first couple of years here.
Speaker 5 (12:59):
I was just saying, like, you know, coaches, just coach
has been really hard on us this year and just
making sure that we're taking care of the little things.
So I feel like we're we're going out there, we're
competing every day in practice. New DC has came in
gave us a different looks throughout the offseason, so it's
helped us on offense learn and grow, and then we
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have great players all around. So when you get your shot,
it's really important to take advantage of it.
Speaker 1 (13:25):
It's got to be more healthy in a competitive angle,
to go out there and have more of a fire
in practice, even if it is Josh against your own
guys and your teammates, because I think that that let's
least bits and pieces of that translate to what you're
going to experience on game day. Does it not?
Speaker 3 (13:43):
No, it definitely does.
Speaker 5 (13:44):
When you're more competitive in practice warms you up for
the game and makes the game a little easier because
you're going against guys that see you every day, so
they kind of know certain moves you might do or
certain movements that the offense has. But in the game,
it's the first time you see somebody in front of you,
so they all have his tape on you, they don't
really know exactly how you play physically in front of him.
Speaker 1 (14:04):
Josh downs if the Colts joins us again four h
five coming up on Sunday. The Colts pregame huddle with
Me begins coming up at one o'clock on Sunday afternoon
for week number four against the Rams. Attention to detail
is something you talked about, and I also have referenced this,
Josh as operational maturity. And I think there's a sense
when you're a young player, some of the stuff you
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really truly don't know into you have gone through it.
Have you seen yourself mature in that capacity over these
especially in the last year or so, once you really
start to recognize it and put it into your daily routine.
Speaker 5 (14:40):
Yeah, just knowing how to take care of my body
in certain situations, and then even on the field, knowing
certain looks of defense might give being able to recognize
coverage better and then knowing the offense better is very important.
Third year in this office and definitely understand it more
than I did my first, So it just comes with
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time and experience.
Speaker 1 (15:02):
How much more film do you watch than you have
in the past? I watch.
Speaker 5 (15:08):
I watch film just differently now, like I understand more
so what I want to watch and much more self
scouting my own self nowadays and watching the other team
as well, but really focusing on understanding what I can
do better, and not just going through practice or going
through a game and sitting in the film session and
just not paying attention, but really really like locking in on, okay,
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what do I need to do better and getting into
the real details each and every day and honing in
on that so that when I do go out there
and practice, I can work on those things and then
they come to fruition in the game.
Speaker 1 (15:42):
All hell, we got to go here. If you don't
mind indulge a little bit, give me your latest self
evaluation in watching the film, because I find this interesting
and I'll tell you why in a second. But what
have you seen and how did you evaluate your game
most recently when you watched I just there are.
Speaker 5 (15:58):
Just certain things I need to keep working on. I
think that I'm a better player than I was the
pastor years, of course, just with experience and stuff. And
then got a new coach that I work with in
the offseason and he stays on me during the season
and corrects me where I need to be corrected and
doesn't let me slip in my technique. So there's those
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things have I feel like are making me better. And
then we got we got a deeper group this year.
So I feel like, when when those opportunities do come,
it's just time to really cash in on those opportunities
and not let things go for granted.
Speaker 1 (16:31):
So, Josh, I'm a big basketball guy, and it has
been now the past couple of years when I've been
told by coaches and those that are to play to
start watching more off the ball and see what you see.
I've used I was a ball watcher. I mean I
think fans are just in general a ball watcher, and
it opens up a really a whole new world of
what you love about the game is that kind of
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what you do with yourself. The ball may be someplace else,
going absolutely someplace else, but you're watching your operation on film.
Is that how you evaluate more now than ever.
Speaker 5 (17:04):
Yeah, kind of similar to that, just certain plays when
you got a block, giving more efforts certain plays and
even if you're on a route that isn't getting the
ball running a good route, just to make put it
on tape and not just kind of just be back
there messing around and taking a playoff. No, but like
taking every play like it could be your last. So
I feel like that's a big thing that I'm trying
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to do this year.
Speaker 1 (17:26):
Are you a ball watcher when you watch what you did?
You used to be a ball watcher when you watch
sports in general? Or do you watch off the ball
the action, especially like football or basketball and such.
Speaker 5 (17:36):
I'm I definitely am a ball watcher, but once I
go back and look at the film, definitely looking more
off the ball and seeing different things that.
Speaker 3 (17:44):
Are going on.
Speaker 1 (17:45):
Josh downs at the Colts again versus the Rams Week four?
Coming up a four or five on Sunday. How big
has Reggie Wayne been in helping you out to get
through all that you've gone through so far in your
early career here?
Speaker 5 (17:59):
Yeah, Ni, Reggie's a great help. He's played there, been there,
done that, so that always helps. Having a guy who's
who's actually been on the field in the position and
done at a high level. So there's certain things that
you can ask him that you may not be able
to ask other coaches who didn't play at this level.
So I feel like that's the biggest thing helping us,
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being able to give us like end game scenarios that
he did and give us that insight.
Speaker 1 (18:25):
What's the like what would be I guess not even
a criticism, but coaching you up. What is the biggest
attention to detail that he has talked to you about
during the start of this season. Does anything stick out
to you from Reggie's angle?
Speaker 5 (18:41):
I mean, I don't want to like give away stuff.
Speaker 1 (18:43):
For real, but I mean you could fake it if you.
Speaker 5 (18:46):
Want some coaching points to me. But yeah, he's given
some closing points to me for I don't want to
Maybe somebody listen to is know what he told me,
and then they're like, oh, now we're going to look
out for that.
Speaker 1 (18:56):
So I hate to break it to you, but there
ain't nobody listening to this, probably with me. Now, I'm
just joking. That's just the tail and tape on the
show right here. No, and then listen everybody who's listening
to it right here? I mean, I'm a slippery noodle downtown.
It's a it's a hell of a day. I just
I find it interesting because it was kind of an
awakening of sorts for me as a sports fan when
I started watching other stuff than what is going on
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with the ball, and I think the coaching aspect of it,
trying to, you know, find out exactly what you guys
are being told, especially on the fly, because I think
hearing that, absorbing that, and then putting that the use
in the game, especially with everything else, Josh, that is
going on has to be incredibly difficult and takes a
higher level of maturation as a player.
Speaker 5 (19:40):
Oh, it definitely does you gotta. I mean, obviously this
is the highest level, so a lot like it's a
lot of smart players in the building. Pretty much everybody.
Speaker 6 (19:48):
Has good football IQ.
Speaker 5 (19:50):
So yeah, it's gonna be it's gonna be more detailed
in the film sessions and on the field than ever before.
But that's just what comes with the game at this level.
Speaker 1 (19:59):
Josh downs at the with us. What do you think
about the rams in the second? They're early overall defensively,
but certainly what you're going to be seeing coming up
in Week four in Southern California on Sunday.
Speaker 5 (20:09):
Yeah, they got a great front, they got a pretty
good secondary, and it's gonna be a good challenge for
as They're a great team, probably probably the best team
we're gonna play up to date. So I'm excited about that.
I'm excited to go out there and play on the
West Coast and play a really good team. So that's
that's what I say about that. Two good teams going
out of this league.
Speaker 1 (20:28):
You've got, uh, you got a pop coming up here,
and I mean a pop for a big game. That's
I've been talking about this this week on the show
that my expectation is, and you know, I know you
got a lot of good teammates around you, and that's
great for the team. But I am predicting a pop
relatively soon from you. I don't know if you feel
that way or not, but that's how I feel about
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your game. I'm expecting it here relatively soon.
Speaker 3 (20:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (20:54):
I appreciate that. Man, I'm just I'm just gonna keep
working it.
Speaker 3 (20:57):
But I do appreciate that.
Speaker 5 (20:59):
But the words being put in and when it's time
for that, it's time for that but we win in
right now.
Speaker 3 (21:05):
So let's just we're just.
Speaker 5 (21:06):
Gonna keep that going. But yeah, when when it does happen,
I'm gonna be all in for it and be thankful.
Speaker 1 (21:10):
Well, you just think about me, especially if it happens
on Sunday. Go. Hey, man, let's talking to this clown
on the radio in the latter portion of the week
and he says something was gonna pop, and hey, for
once this guy was was right, which is which is good?
Right here? That'd be great. But that's my prediction right there. Hey,
before I let you go, I didn't want to ask
you this. I'm sure you've probably been asking us a
number of times and it's old and tired, and I apologize.
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But what's it like to be in an operational situation huddle,
post huddle, pre snap with Daniel Jones? What's it like
playing with Daniel Jones in his first year's quarterback here?
Speaker 3 (21:47):
Oh?
Speaker 5 (21:47):
Yeah, great, great player, very smart player as well, like
we were talking about earlier, just having that IQ, Like
he's the guy that just understands the game and it's
just coming. It's just shown on the field right now.
And yeah, I mean he makes it easy on us.
Speaker 6 (22:01):
We don't have to really do.
Speaker 5 (22:03):
A whole lie besides read the coverage during our row.
But he sees it, and he's seeing it well right now.
Speaker 1 (22:10):
All right, when you pop, all right, we'll reach back.
I'll tell you what if you do, if you have
a popper, we'll reach back out next week and get
you back on and make sure we stay in that groove. Okay, man, Seriously,
I appreciate you. Yeah, so hey, it's always a pleasure
to have you on. Seriously, well done so far with
you and your team, and the best of luck in
southern California coming up on Sunday. Josh, thank you for
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the time.
Speaker 7 (22:32):
Thank you appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (22:35):
Mike Chapel of CBS four and Fox fifty nine is
on the Andy Moore Automotive Group potline. So Hey, Mike,
I just talked to Josh Downs, Cults wide receiver. I
feel as if his first pop of the season is
coming up on Sunday at four oh five or thereabouts.
Speaker 2 (22:53):
What say you?
Speaker 3 (22:54):
Yeah, he's due again. People need to keep in mind,
this is a guy that has more kitch.
Speaker 8 (23:00):
Which is in his first two seasons than any Colt,
and this is the franchise that has like Raymond Berry
and and Reggie Wayne and Marvin Harrison. So he's due.
It's it's just been a function of how the offense
is working right now, is working with Tyler Warren and
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Michael Pittman and Jonathan Taylor running. So he's going to
get his He's in that sweet spot over the middle
and those underneath routes that are going to be there,
and yeah, one of these games is going to have
I don't know, eleven targets and seven catches and I
don't know eighty ninety one and ten yards. So the
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hard part for all these guys receivers are are are
are cast I hate to use the word selfish, but
they all want the ball. They Reggie wanted the ball
when Marvin was getting the ball. So I think it
asks a lot of these guys to sort of wait
your turn and be patient. But I think that's how
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it's gonna be. And he's so, he's so due to
go off, and I won't be surprised when he does.
Speaker 1 (24:13):
To Mike Chapel of CBS four and Fox fifty nine,
are they any more automotive group, Ablo, I'm assuming it
would be good if he did go off. It would
be this weekend. Considering the circumstances we view right now
with Alec Pierce. Let's start right there with this offense
that has been fantastic, no turnovers first three weeks. It's
something that you're going to have to certainly maintain against
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the Rams coming up on Sunday. But I'm just taking
for example, there's gonna be no Alec Pierce. There's gonna
have to be a significant step up somewhere on this
team offensively.
Speaker 8 (24:45):
Yeah, and that's a d Mitchell. That's I mean, we
we've talked early in the year and even before the season,
how with all these uh you know, with this deep
set of skill players, which includes Tyler Warren, there's gonna
to be guys that have to wait. And Ady Mitchell
is kind of that guy because he's the fourth receiver.
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He just is, and he'll be the guy that if
if pierces out, then then then Ad kind of takes
that spot. If Pierce goes out, or if Downs or
Pittman go out, he sort of steps into their spot.
So and he's got deep ball Capleville has He had
that one at Tennessee where it was a jump ball.
He got a thirty or forty yard DPI. It's not
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a catch, but it's the yards of the yards. But yeah,
he and I've got decent excuse me, I've got decent confidence.
He had another good camp, he's played well, he's by
this time and made some good catches. So if he's
been getting two or three targets the game, he should
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get four or five or six this league, just because
Pierce is such an integral part of this offense. And
we always, you know, wrong, call him a one trick
pony for the deep balls. He's really showing a more
deeper repertoire in his route running. So this is a
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good chance for ad.
Speaker 2 (26:14):
Mike Chappell who joins us.
Speaker 1 (26:15):
Now, what's been I know we talked about the quarterback,
you talked about Jonathan Taylor, all that in mind, what's
been most impressive to you during the Star for the
Colts being three and zero?
Speaker 8 (26:28):
Probably Daniel Jones. And again, I've got to find a
better way to describe it. He's he's not a game manager,
but he's managing the offense expertly. Game managers sort of
just are out there handing the ball off and throwing
eight yard passes. That's not what he's doing, but he's
playing in such a high level of efficiency. I think
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it was Shane Sdyke and told us that, you know,
he's a guy that's gonna find find receptions. He's like
seventy percent and it's like nine point three yards in attempt.
I think only Lamar Jackson's higher. His career high is
six point eight. So you know, while he's working the
ball underneath really well and getting Taylor heavily involved, he's
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still taking his shots, you know, run after catch because
the ball placement. So I guess what I said, and
I sort of think this is an offense that can
travel because I just don't think they're doing anything out
of the ordinary. They're just running. The players are executing,
and yeah, you know at some point they're gonna have
a turnover because you know, stuff happens. But this is
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like the franchise record for most consecutive games without a
turnover is four, So I mean in a season. People
forget they didn't have a turnover in the last game
last year, so they head both straight games, but you know,
they're like twenty four and three in the last twenty
seven games without without a turnover. So it's this isn't
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rocket sized. The most you know, the most telling stat
as far as winning and losing is turnover ratio. Well,
I think the three teams don't have a turnover it's
the Colts, Tampa Bay, and Buffalo. They're all unbeaten. Well,
you know, duh. So I like the way Jones is
playing because I don't think he's doing anything that he
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doesn't have the capabilities to do, and it should lend
itself to continuing.
Speaker 1 (28:31):
So the Colts have scored in seventy seven percent out
their offensive possessions this season. That's twenty of twenty six,
the most of any team after three games in forty
five years.
Speaker 2 (28:45):
You know, it's weird.
Speaker 1 (28:45):
How we go through all these eras, whether you're talking
about luck or manning, and this is what we're talking
about with this offense and it's firepower.
Speaker 2 (28:55):
So far, it's pretty amazing.
Speaker 8 (28:57):
Mike Well And again, one hundred and three points to
start a season. I just would have thought Peyton would
have done that. This goes back to like nineteen sixty seven.
So that's again, that's what it's crazy. And I wrote
about last week and I think that this is like
the old perfect storm with Daniel Jones getting a good offense,
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a very good offensive line, and you pair him with
a running back. Remember he had he had sat Kwon
Buckley back in twenty twenty two. When the Giants bakes
the playoffs so that they're not asking Jones to do
extraordinary things, do your job make It's like Rick Finck,
but Rick fin Turny, I always talk make those six
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or seven or eight plays that the quarterback has to make.
And whether it was that that third and six or
third and seven to pierce against Denver whatever, So that
that yet, but you're right, they're doing things that the
manning teams didn't do. Uh, it's it's too bad that
that that. Like, let's say they win Sunday, I don't
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think they do against the Rams as Let's say they
do whether four and oh for the first time since
two thousand and nine, everything stops at two thousand and
nine on streets because they won their first fourteen you know,
so it sort of kind of stops your your the
longest since. But only if I'm pretty sure I've checked
this three or four times in the in the era,
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only two quarterbacks have opened the season at least four
and oh. And it's hardball and manning, so you know
for Jones to be adding that group, primarily Peyton because
after the hardball's team started four and oh, they sort
of winning the dumpster for a while. But it is,
(30:45):
it's just it's just pretty impressive what they've done. And
we talked again the first half of the season, dug
down it. It's just conducive to getting off to a
good start and doing something. And then you've got Houston,
you know, wet in the bed every week, which is
helping quite a bit. So this is a chance to
(31:07):
set things up. I think every time the Colts started
three and oh in Indy they've made the playoffs. And
that's because you only play used to be sixteen now
seventeen games. You know here where here all diverge, but
you know as a Red fan they're in position to
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earn a player or a wild card.
Speaker 3 (31:29):
And then they.
Speaker 8 (31:31):
Lose two games at home to Pittsburgh. Well there's only
like three games left, but at least in the NFL
you've got a chance to kind of recover. But getting
off to a three and no start, holy smokes, it
just makes things easier. You go to the Rams, tough
game and then you're home against is it the Raiders
in Arizona? Two games again that you're gonna be favored in,
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and so it's there. If they take care of business,
I kind of this is the game they would lose
because the Rams are decent. Although I figure out there
and win this week, I won't be surprised. I just won't.
The defense I'm concerned about not having Kenny Moore's is
a big deal.
Speaker 3 (32:11):
It really is.
Speaker 8 (32:13):
But offensively they'll probably be without Matt Gonzalez is a
right guard. He didn't practice in the day with a
toe injury. Dalton Tucker would probably step in. But the
offense is and of course Pierce. But it's just playing well.
And there's a lot of talk about well, what's different,
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accountability and all that stuff. They're just playing well. And
you know, this is a perfect example that when you
get good quarterback play you can do good things. Now,
if you get great quarterback play, like with Peyton and
those guys, you can do some really good things. Right now,
they're getting as good a quarterback play as you could
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ever have expected from Jones, and all of a sudden
people are putting him on the MVP talk Now it's
very very early, but no one ever thought when Shange
Sdyken pick Jones over Richardson that they say, you know,
maybe he's gonna be in the in the the indip talk.
Not a chance, but so far, so good. I like
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the way they're playing, and I think he's got a
chance to continue.
Speaker 2 (33:20):
My chapel with us.
Speaker 1 (33:21):
Before I let you go, Kenny Moore, what do you
think is the longer term situation for him? Whenever we
hear cav and Achilles and those relatables around here, that's
not good and not good whatsoever. What are you thinking
about the longer term for the coach defensive back?
Speaker 8 (33:39):
Yeah, when you hear Achilles, you think of Tyree's Telibert
and laying on the floor, pound on the floor. I
Shange Styke and has mentioned that. Right now, they're not
talking or they're not considering the IR. I just from
being around this, I won't be surprised if come Friday
or Saturday they put him on IR because of the Achilles.
(34:00):
You just don't mess with that and give him a
chance to really let that thing heal, whatever whatever level
of injury it is. If you're going to be a
good team, if you're going to play into November, December
and January and in meaningful games. I'm not sure the
half can anymore in December and January than risk it.
(34:21):
So when they said Achilles, I thought, and when I
heard calf injury, my mind defaulted to an Achilles. And again,
maybe they don't put him on IR which again that's
four games, not the season's four games. It would give
him a chance to not push it because you know,
can anymore's gonna push it because that's who he is,
(34:42):
That's who players are. I won't be surprised at all
if if I are happens over the weekend.
Speaker 2 (34:50):
There is Mike Chapel of CBS four and Fox fifty down.
Speaker 1 (34:54):
Good to see him, brother, always good to have you
here at Mike Wells is going to make his triumphant
return to the show come up tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (35:00):
How excited are you about that?
Speaker 8 (35:03):
I wouldn't say very excited. I'm I'm kind of excited.
He is the NFL.
Speaker 3 (35:13):
Good for him.
Speaker 1 (35:14):
Yes, hey, Mike, I appreciate that, and enjoy the game
at Beach Grove this weekend.
Speaker 2 (35:18):
We'll do it again next Thursday. Thank you you guys.
Speaker 3 (35:21):
Be well.
Speaker 2 (35:22):
He amp Antoine Ghenad sit down here.
Speaker 1 (35:27):
I want some headsets there. Make sure we got headsets
going on here. We got amp Paris, we got the
former Coult safety They awesome. Antoine Mfay who is joining
us now? Guys, how we doing? We look at you town?
Speaker 2 (35:40):
Where do you live? Normally North Carolina? Well son of
a God. Welcome home, friend, welcome home.
Speaker 3 (35:47):
Always good to get.
Speaker 2 (35:48):
We were trying to do that tomorrow. But you're getting
out of town later on today. Hey, what are we
doing in town with Antoine this weekend? It's a big deal, right, Yeah, Well.
Speaker 4 (35:56):
Today we had a mental health symposium with Antoine Day
and Greg Odin over at Warren Central High School talking
to high school kids. Yeah, the importance of protecting their
mental health. Uh so that was that was the most
important thing. And tomorrow Antoine is being honored for the
work he's done on the football field at the Socle
City Classic Coaches lunching.
Speaker 2 (36:17):
That's awesome, man, that's well done. Did him get you
in town because his daughter goes to Howard? Is that
how that works?
Speaker 3 (36:24):
Not at all?
Speaker 6 (36:24):
But you always a good that's a good connection.
Speaker 1 (36:30):
Man. Your daughter's going to I met, your daughter's show going.
I'll kick all the coverage. Hey, she's looking awesome.
Speaker 6 (36:35):
The crazy thing is she's now working for the NFL
Players Association.
Speaker 2 (36:38):
Oh man.
Speaker 4 (36:39):
Wow, she's at a senior at Howard and she's working
for the NFL players So great, And see surrounded by
all of these uncles that played in the NFL.
Speaker 2 (36:49):
That's outstanding. Oh man, time. What do you think about
this coast of the season, Antoine, So far from what
you've seen, looking good?
Speaker 7 (36:56):
Man, gotta keep it rolling.
Speaker 3 (36:57):
Man.
Speaker 7 (36:59):
First off, I'm excited to see Daniel Jones playing the
way he's playing. You know, his rookie year was my
last year in the league when I was in New York. Yeah,
and when he came in as a rook I thought
he had all the twos to be a good quarterback,
you know, but unfortunately in New York that we won't
(37:21):
touch on that, but I think that. But what what
the coach are doing right now? Man?
Speaker 3 (37:29):
They look good.
Speaker 2 (37:30):
Look.
Speaker 7 (37:31):
I can't even say playing complimentary football because that would
be offense, defensive, special teams. Special teams haven't really been
out there that much besides the field, But offensive defensively,
the guys look good.
Speaker 2 (37:47):
I they haven't turned the ball over.
Speaker 7 (37:49):
Yeah, that's that's the incredible stat to me, winning formula.
Speaker 1 (37:53):
They'll probably turn it over five times, but that has
been amazing. And you know, you look at that and
look at sakuon Barkley and what he accomplished once he
got out of there, and maybe the tell of the
tape right there.
Speaker 9 (38:06):
Man, you know, just sound like something you was just
saying in the car. What were you saying in the
car and what you just saying, I know what you're
saying of the car. I mean literally what you just
said is what he said. Maybe it's not the players.
Speaker 2 (38:20):
That is great. I thank you, man, I appreciate that.
A little stellar force right there.
Speaker 4 (38:26):
We're sending the Grandpa Man and Twine coming to som
again at the Coach's Lunch and at Lucas Oil Stadium
at eleven o'clock. He'll be honored for again just all
of his stuff that he's done on the football field.
Speaker 2 (38:40):
Such a good dude, Oh my god.
Speaker 4 (38:41):
And so I've been trying to get him in its
perfect fit because when you think about Circle City Classic
and the whole HBCU connection, to have somebody who graduated
from an HBCU, you know that the number of players
that went to HBCUs is very limited when you think
about the amount of years the NFL has been in existence.
So he is something that you would look at as
(39:02):
a royalty from HBCU as it relates to the accomplishments
that he's had on the football field.
Speaker 2 (39:08):
Pay anything and twine.
Speaker 1 (39:09):
But you came out of Howard, people looked at you
as a long shot. Did you view yourself that way?
Speaker 3 (39:14):
Not at all, Not at all.
Speaker 7 (39:15):
I felt like, you know, I could play ball. But again,
you know I said this to the to the when
we was on the suppost on the panel today, is
that just wanted the opportunity. I think that's what anybody
wants in life, is just the opportunity. The coachs got
gave me that opportunity.
Speaker 3 (39:33):
I just ran with it.
Speaker 2 (39:35):
What is not still still?
Speaker 1 (39:37):
I shill kind of look at the day when you
left as not a good days, yea tough, heartbreaking and
watch you leave the coats and you realize how much
you had left in the tank right there.
Speaker 2 (39:50):
And sometimes that's part of the evaluation that dudes get wrong.
Speaker 3 (39:53):
Man, it is it is, it is, you know it
is what it is. Man.
Speaker 7 (39:58):
I had great eight great years here and you know
it was it was. You look at it, you know,
glass half full, half empty.
Speaker 3 (40:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (40:07):
I was able to travel the world, you know, go
to San France, go to Arizona, go to New York,
you know, but definitely would have been a situation.
Speaker 2 (40:15):
I would love to stay here and the Super Bowl
champion here in Indianapolis too, So awesome.
Speaker 6 (40:20):
Man, that's a better way to come into the league
your rookie year. Yeah, super Bowl champion.
Speaker 2 (40:24):
Can't beat that.
Speaker 1 (40:25):
Right.
Speaker 2 (40:26):
Then you get this guy right here, man legend. He
is a damn legend and he knows everybody in town.
I'll tell you what, man, you want to meet somebody
call him.
Speaker 1 (40:35):
He got you.
Speaker 2 (40:36):
Well, it depends depends on what you're calling for, no doubt. Hey,
how long Circle City Classics been going on.
Speaker 6 (40:45):
This is the forty first year.
Speaker 2 (40:46):
That's incredible.
Speaker 6 (40:47):
Yeah, I mean it's it's a staple in the community.
Speaker 4 (40:50):
And when you think about like the tradition of Classics
around the country, and that's again when you think about
players like Antoine who's played in the many of classics
coming from an hbe you school.
Speaker 6 (41:01):
To be able to come back to Indianapolis and be
honored in a.
Speaker 4 (41:04):
City that you won your Super Bowl Championship, ring in
the super the city that drafted you.
Speaker 6 (41:10):
So it's one of those things that I look at
it because the space that we live in.
Speaker 4 (41:15):
You know, back in the day when Twin was coming
up as a football player, you were intentional.
Speaker 6 (41:19):
And that's what he was talking about today.
Speaker 4 (41:21):
Him and Greg Olden were talking about how they were
so intentional about studying the plays and watching certain players
and asking a million questions to learn how to become a.
Speaker 6 (41:31):
Professional at this sport.
Speaker 4 (41:32):
Now we live in a society where content is more
important than intent. So for us to be able to
have players like him come back to the city, it's
something that was dear to my heart.
Speaker 6 (41:42):
I've been on Twin for like the last two years.
Speaker 1 (41:44):
Bro.
Speaker 6 (41:44):
I need you to come back, Bro, I want you
to come back. I want to honor you.
Speaker 4 (41:47):
But it wasn't necessarily all about what you did on
the football field with the Colts. But it's also about
your legacy of coming from a small school where you're
told you won't ever be able to accomplish this, this, this, that,
And now you're talking about a guy college graduate just
went into.
Speaker 6 (42:04):
The Hall of Fame.
Speaker 4 (42:06):
So people don't understand he is the image that I
would like to put up, you know, when you have.
Speaker 6 (42:12):
The big name players.
Speaker 4 (42:13):
No disrespect to my brother Reggie Wayne, but the cards
were laid out.
Speaker 6 (42:17):
For him, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4 (42:18):
Going to a huge school like the University of Miami,
you kind of knew you got a head start, but
from somebody who literally had to get it out of
the mud, as we would say in the hood, like
Antoine did.
Speaker 6 (42:29):
And still you look at him.
Speaker 4 (42:30):
Now, fourteen years in the league, he's the post a
child of what I would like to show in front
of young especially young black boys and girls, like it
doesn't matter where you start is where you finish.
Speaker 1 (42:42):
Man, I never have good dialogue like that. You know
you're luck y'all let you on here because you're so
much better than me. That pisses me off. I will
say this, I will say this. I mean, everybody's been
around you, Antoine, it's been incredible. Would Jim mersay the
impact jimmersay on.
Speaker 7 (43:00):
You, and just the way he ran the organization right
and and the way when he was around people, the
feeling that they had as well, you know what I mean,
because again owner, you know, sometimes the personality of an
owner could be offsetting sometimes just because I'm the big
wig I'm there. But it wasn't like that with with
(43:22):
with with mister Iersay. So again even when I, you know,
I came in town to celebrate his life, you know,
just to see the guys and just to see the
impact that he had on not just his players, not
his you know, his family, but the entire community.
Speaker 2 (43:36):
What are you going on today, Charlotte, North Carolina? What's
happening there?
Speaker 3 (43:39):
Man?
Speaker 7 (43:39):
I got three little ones that I'm running behind.
Speaker 2 (43:42):
All and so we're gonna play some safety. Are we
gonna get it?
Speaker 3 (43:46):
So?
Speaker 7 (43:46):
Right now my middle one he's playing linebacker around you know,
so my daughter twelve, I got a nine to five
year old, my boys, So I'm staying busy with that.
And then back on with my hometown. Open up a
community center. So that's something that I did, you know,
I obviously been doing with some a lot of work
with my foundation throughout the years, but the Safe Avory
(44:07):
Empowerment Center in Newport News, Virginia. So that's something that's
that's giving back to the community.
Speaker 1 (44:13):
I can't wait to that day we come back and
your your name goes up there in the ring, man,
I hope.
Speaker 2 (44:19):
So damn will happen. I hope, So, I hope So.
Speaker 1 (44:23):
I just I think about that era all the time,
and you know it's funny you get past it and
people embrace super Bowl forty one, and people always say, well,
you know what they should add more? I said, you
know how hard it is to get one like that
in this market especially, And you were here at the outset.
I mean it was like the cults were a punchline
at the outset and then they finally turned into something
(44:45):
that was legitimate, and we saw what winning was really about.
Speaker 4 (44:48):
And that's what we look at now, you know, we people,
we want to compare the glory years, and so every
since that that year from the Super Bowl on, every
team and every player that comes in after that, they're
fair they're unfairly judged, you know what I mean, Like
if your safety, every safety has to be like antoinea
Day or Bob Sanders. If you're a wide receiver, you
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gotta be like Reggie and Marvin. If you're a quarterback,
you gotta be like Peyton. So it's really a tough situation.
But to be able to be around the organization like
I have and the players, to be able to see
the growth from like a uh, Eugene Daniels who played
for the Cold Sails and Safety back in the day,
looking at Bill Brooks and watching him. Me and John
(45:31):
Henn were together a couple of weeks ago. We're talking
to him about looking at the harm age. Yeah, so
when you think about and I'm fortunate because I was
through all of those errors.
Speaker 6 (45:43):
I'm telling my age right now, but I was.
Speaker 2 (45:45):
You look like the twenty eight. Don't know why let
you on this show because you pissed me off so much.
Good one, A good one. You look young and you
sound great and I don't have well, they don't know
my past. You ready, guy, So it's all good.
Speaker 6 (46:07):
So I could do this.
Speaker 4 (46:08):
But now, I mean, when you think about it, you know,
like even yourself, the legacy of the sports in Indianapolis,
it kind of goes hand in hand. And if you
don't have people who are passionate about our sports, it's
really tough to tell people the true story of what
we had to go through. So sitting here during this
remote and Twine being here and then knowing.
Speaker 1 (46:28):
Nancy Ersay's past hard. Now I should say Nancy Leonard's
passing yesterday. Jim Irsay's passion back. I mean, and I
represent misters everywhere I go.
Speaker 4 (46:37):
I keep him right here on my heart because I
got a chance to really get to know the person.
And you know, when you think about Indiana Black Expo,
we were able to honor him a couple of years ago,
and there was something mister Ersay never really did.
Speaker 6 (46:49):
He never went for public gratification.
Speaker 4 (46:52):
But like I told him, my thing was, mister ers
I wanted to recognize you for the things that people
did not know, the things that they did not see. Yes,
it's easy to because you're an owner, you're a billionaire,
all of those things. But when you think about the
philanthropic work of him as an owner and the things
that he's done and what he meant to the city.
I paralleled to like players like Antoine who during that era,
(47:14):
Reggie Antwine, Marlon Jackson, Gary Brackett, all of those guys
man that I watched make sure that our city was
represented very well. And if we can get just an
ounce of that from these guys today, then I know
we're doing the right thing. So kudos to mister Ersay
and the Ersay family for recruiting and drafting real quality
(47:34):
guys hero, thank you,
Meantime with the Andy Moore Auto Motive Group pot line.
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He's very enjoyable to hear breakdown a game as well.
Aaron Taylor joins us on the Andy Moore Auto Motive
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the time in Indianapolis.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
How are you my pleasures?
Speaker 3 (00:33):
Don I'm great man. If I was any better, I
couldn't stand myself.
Speaker 1 (00:37):
You know what, if you were a better you'd be
here with us right now. Let me guarantee you that
I'll call my shot on that right now. If you
were better, you would be here with us right now.
You get a lot going on here before we get
into the breakdown of IU and Iowa City coming up
tomorrow and the rest of the college football landscape.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
You got a lot going on with you right now
as well.
Speaker 3 (00:57):
I do. It's the season, as we to say, so,
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Trench Life drops every day or every Thursday, i should say,
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And that, fellas is where I called first for Indiana
to be able to dominate Illinois up front, because when
you put the tape on, you can tell that that's
the team that's built different. They're not just built to
go into December this year, They're built to go deep
into January. And I think Indiana could be the best
team in the country that nobody's talking about.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
Line.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
It's Aaron Taylor from CBS as well, joining us and
Andy Moore on at the mother group Pieline. So great
entry right here, and this was my thought. I talked
about this at Voice of the Hoosiers. Don Fischer comes
on with me weekly and he had said basically all
summer along he loved what Kurt Signetti did in revamping
and getting stronger that offensive line, and knowing with Mendoza
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the guy you brought in from Cal and now he
ran from his life a year ago really for Cal
good quarterback, but ran for his life the entire time.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
That was a point of emphasis.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
And it seems like what you just explained and how
they looked, especially last Saturday, Kurt Signetti has been on
target with the way he has replentied that offensive line.
Speaker 3 (02:44):
Bullseye, baby bullseye, bullseye, bullseye. And what's notable to me,
John is the fact that this year he's not chirping
as much. Now. He was feeling himself and got a
little big chest at at the halftime interview and then
a little bit in the post game. But this isn't
the braggadocious google me Signetti that we saw a couple
of years ago. This is more walk, quiet, carry a
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big stick, and man, they passed their first tests resoundingly.
And to your point, don't just take our word that
the old line's better. They'd rushed for three hundred or
more yards in every single game this season, including Illinois,
and most of those yards came in the second half
when they knew that they were going to shut it down.
But defensively, that front is extremely mobile, extremely active, and
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they whipped a very seasoned Illinois team up front. So
they're winning in the lines of scrimmage. But it's a
major upgrade. And another reason I knew Indiana was going
to win, and this is, with all due respect to Illinois,
they had a significant improvement and advantage at the quarterback
position in Fernando Mendoza. And it's just like sometimes boys
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like you get into a second marriage and it goes
a hell of a lot better than the first. Well,
Fernando Mendoza's proof positive of that in the football world
because he's playing out of his mind here in Indiana,
way better than he did at cow.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
That's okay, Aaron Brent Holerson here number one, that is
spot on, that impactful and analysis right there from here,
it really was, It really wasn't it spot on though? Right?
Speaker 2 (04:13):
I mean, if you look at him. He just say,
is a refreshed guy.
Speaker 1 (04:15):
Now the whole team, they're just operating all cylinders right now.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
They're going into Iowa, right it's gonna be tough.
Speaker 1 (04:21):
I always had a strong stout defense last couple of years,
not as strong as what they've had here.
Speaker 4 (04:26):
What do you think that's gonna How do you think
it's going to come into play with the way that
I use operating right now?
Speaker 2 (04:31):
Now do you see that rolling out?
Speaker 3 (04:32):
Well? Kenneck Stadium is one of the most difficult places
to play in the country. But this is an Iowa
team that is good, but not as good as they've
been over the years. So when you look out on
paper and you look at personnel, you look at what
these offenses have been able to do, you look at
the defenses and how they're built, Indiana is the better
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team on paper now, Fortunately for Iowa and Kirk Farns,
who's now the winning is Big Ten coach of all time.
Football league play on paper, it's played in the trenches.
So that's what I'm going to be watching. You've seen
the evolution of Gronowski, the quarterback that came in that
is now the most winningest NCAA quarterback on any level.
That happened a couple weeks ago. They're fining their throw game.
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They've got a run game and an offensive line that
is very season that plays in an old school way,
So they're efficient running the ball, not as dominant as
they may need to be if this becomes a shootout situation.
But as it is with Iowan, as it's been, they
win with defense and special teams. Phill Parker, their defensive coordinator,
does a remarkable job. But they've been a little susceptible
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on the back end. Rutgers was able to torch them
a little bit. They were able to give some big
plays for whatever reason. They played more man coverage now
than they have in the past, which may means they
might need an extra a hat in the box, if
you will, to help against the run, because they don't
look as stout as they were certainly last year in
the front seven, particularly at the line backer position, and
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also on the d line as well. So again, I
think I was going to show in there and play really,
really well, especially at home, and we know how sacred
that experience is. At the first end of the first
quarter with the children's hospital. But if Indiana shows up
ready to play. I think they should win that game handily.
Speaker 1 (06:20):
He is Anon Taylor, the former Notre Damer from CBS
and then some joins us on the Andy morri Automotive
Group pole line, and I want to concentrate on this.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
It's because his dad is a friend of mine.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
Dave Lock is the ad down at Ron Colly High School,
where my son attended, and one of his classmates was
Trevor Louch, who is a left tackle at Isle. And
one of the reasons why he ended up in Iowa
City was because of what they have done over the
years consistently in building up offensive lineman. Why have they
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been so good at that concentration and not just doing
it collegiately aerin, but building those offensive linemen to play
at the next level.
Speaker 3 (07:03):
Kirk Farrence. Kirk Farence, who came up underneath Joe Moore,
who was my college coach at Notre Dame and famously
sent fifty two guys to the NFL in eighteen seasons,
most notably at pitt where all the Hogs and Mark
May and Jim o'covert and Bill Fralick, Mark Stepnowski, jimbo
Covert like a laundry list of who's who of offensive
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lineman there, and then went to Notre Dame and never
had a senior starter that played for him that didn't
at least have a cup of coffee. Turned Andy hack
in one year from a tight end that played a
little bit into an All American left tackle that played
a double digit NFL career and is now the offensive
line coach for the Kansas City Chiefs. So that adherence
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to the belief and the basics and the fundamentals of
blocking and tackling, of not hitting sleds because sleds aren't
on football fields people are, of accelerating your feet on contact.
Because when he reversed engineered film, that's where he saw
the dominant blocks, where not the pitter patter over the
boards with a wide base, but with a tight base
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where you're running and your body's in a natural position.
An understanding of leverage up and down, inside out, pad
level up and down low man wins inside outside, gives
you points of strength where your legs move people, but
your upper body controls and steer them when you're upper
and lower are connected. Having an ability to time that
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perfectly where it shows up in both the run game
and timing your punch in the pass game is a
recipe for success with a laundry list of people, and
Trevor's going to be the next line, the next in
line of a long line of the Tristan Wurfs of
the world, where he gets the absolute best fundamental coaching
you can at the offensive line position. Maybe nowhere else
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better in the country than they're in Iowa City. Aaron.
Speaker 1 (08:53):
He such a great kid too, and I'm really proud
of him and what he's accomplished.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
But yeah, I would agree with you. You can tell.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
And I'm not an offensive line guru by any stretch
of the imagination, but you can just kind of see
him grow game after game and Iowa was hit.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
He really can.
Speaker 3 (09:09):
Yeah. George Barnett' they're on line coach man. He's an
old school guy and his interesting fellas. I did a
summer tour this year and we went to Iowa City
watching camp, and in practice you were watching them do
base blocks and fundamental drills. That's kind of the hard
positions specific stuff that each position does to begin the practice,
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and it's situational, and they were working on base blocks,
drive blocks, and they were taking the defender either ten
yards backwards or until they were on their back, and
Coach Barnett was coaching the defense. The scout squad, the
look Scott squad as hard if not harder than he
was the offensive lineman. So they weren't just backpedaling and
running out of there. They were giving real resistance. And
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the reason why is that you don't see mistakes until
you're under pressure. If you're not giving a good look
to the offen lineman, then he's going to be successful.
His bad habits won't show up. But if you give
him resistance and all of a sudden his arm goes out,
or he stands up, or he starts to widen his base,
now all of a sudden you can see the things
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that need to be corrected. And the reason you do
at ten yards or they're on their back is that
if you prep it that way, if the timing in
the brain and that muscle memory takes place at ten
yards are on the back, then in a real game situation,
you're going to get six yards. And here's where that's important.
Most other schools we go to go three to four
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yards and stop. And when you turn the game tape on,
when it matters they're only holding their blocks one or
two yards, and that's why you don't get near the
production or execution in some places as you do there
in Iowa City. And George Barnett is the next and
the long line of great offensive line coaches that Kurt
trusts to bring in to execute what that standard is.
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And that's been as consistent of a level of performance
at any position in college football we've seen over the
last three decades.
Speaker 1 (11:05):
I'll tell you what, between that analysis and the second
Wife analysis, we got to have you back on.
Speaker 2 (11:10):
There's zero away we cannot have you back on the show.
Speaker 3 (11:14):
I love it. Let me know, man, you know, you know,
impartial to or partial. I say the Indianapolis. I went
to Notre Dame. My dad lives there now, so there's
a lot of reasons for me to love on some inn.
Speaker 1 (11:25):
Well, let's let's do this again. Before we do that,
I want to make sure that everybody understands Trench life
where they can see it YouTube and all that is
going on. But yeah, hey, Aaron, let's make sure we
get you back on over the course of the season
and talk up more college football.
Speaker 2 (11:40):
You've been outstanding.
Speaker 3 (11:42):
Love it. Two things I want folks to do. Go
to YouTube type in Joe Moore Ward twenty fifteen. That's
our handle, and go get some donuts at Longs.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
No, there you go.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
Hold look at you hitting the spot right there, Aaron.
I want to have my producer James get in touch
with you. Outstanding work. Thank you very much, and we'll
do it again over the course of this season.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
Thank you.
Speaker 3 (12:02):
Appreciate you fellas.
Speaker 1 (12:06):
Joining us now the Andy Moore Automotive Group potline. Here
is the Colts wide receiver on the road a business
trip to southern California for the Colts late Sunday afternoon
against the Rams. Josh Downs joins us. Hey, Josh, thank
you very much for the time this afternoon. How you doing.
Speaker 5 (12:21):
I'm good.
Speaker 1 (12:21):
How are you three games so far? How you feeling
about yourself? How you're feeling about your team? Because it
has been some action packed excitement to this point of
the season.
Speaker 5 (12:31):
Yeah, man, we were looking really good right now. Just
want to keep that rolling. I think we're clicking on
offense and defense, and the only way to keep that
going is keep practicing hard every day and individually taking
care of your own business. So we just got to
keep doing that.
Speaker 1 (12:46):
You see that more than you have so far you've
been here. I think you bring up a good point, Josh,
individually taking care of your business, do you see that
more throughout the landscape of your roster right now than
you have in your first couple of years here.
Speaker 5 (12:59):
I was just saying, like, you know, coaches, just coach
has been really hard on us this year and just
making sure that we're taking care of the little things.
So I feel like we're we're going out there, we're
competing every day in practice. New DC has came in
gave us a different looks throughout the offseason, so it's
helped us on offense learn and grow, and then we
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have great players all around. So when you get your shot,
it's really important to take advantage of it.
Speaker 1 (13:25):
It's got to be more healthy in a competitive angle,
to go out there and have more of a fire
in practice, even if it is Josh against your own
guys and your teammates, because I think that that let's
least bits and pieces of that translate to what you're
going to experience on game day. Does it not?
Speaker 3 (13:43):
No, it definitely does.
Speaker 5 (13:44):
When you're more competitive in practice warms you up for
the game and makes the game a little easier because
you're going against guys that see you every day, so
they kind of know certain moves you might do or
certain movements that the offense has. But in the game,
it's the first time you see somebody in front of you,
so they all have his tape on you, they don't
really know exactly how you play physically in front of him.
Speaker 1 (14:04):
Josh downs if the Colts joins us again four h
five coming up on Sunday. The Colts pregame huddle with
Me begins coming up at one o'clock on Sunday afternoon
for week number four against the Rams. Attention to detail
is something you talked about, and I also have referenced this,
Josh as operational maturity. And I think there's a sense
when you're a young player, some of the stuff you
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really truly don't know into you have gone through it.
Have you seen yourself mature in that capacity over these
especially in the last year or so, once you really
start to recognize it and put it into your daily routine.
Speaker 5 (14:40):
Yeah, just knowing how to take care of my body
in certain situations, and then even on the field, knowing
certain looks of defense might give being able to recognize
coverage better and then knowing the offense better is very important.
Third year in this office and definitely understand it more
than I did my first, So it just comes with
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time and experience.
Speaker 1 (15:02):
How much more film do you watch than you have
in the past? I watch.
Speaker 5 (15:08):
I watch film just differently now, like I understand more
so what I want to watch and much more self
scouting my own self nowadays and watching the other team
as well, but really focusing on understanding what I can
do better, and not just going through practice or going
through a game and sitting in the film session and
just not paying attention, but really really like locking in on, okay,
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what do I need to do better and getting into
the real details each and every day and honing in
on that so that when I do go out there
and practice, I can work on those things and then
they come to fruition in the game.
Speaker 1 (15:42):
All hell, we got to go here. If you don't
mind indulge a little bit, give me your latest self
evaluation in watching the film, because I find this interesting
and I'll tell you why in a second. But what
have you seen and how did you evaluate your game
most recently when you watched I just there are.
Speaker 5 (15:58):
Just certain things I need to keep working on. I
think that I'm a better player than I was the
pastor years, of course, just with experience and stuff. And
then got a new coach that I work with in
the offseason and he stays on me during the season
and corrects me where I need to be corrected and
doesn't let me slip in my technique. So there's those
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things have I feel like are making me better. And
then we got we got a deeper group this year.
So I feel like, when when those opportunities do come,
it's just time to really cash in on those opportunities
and not let things go for granted.
Speaker 1 (16:31):
So, Josh, I'm a big basketball guy, and it has
been now the past couple of years when I've been
told by coaches and those that are to play to
start watching more off the ball and see what you see.
I've used I was a ball watcher. I mean I
think fans are just in general a ball watcher, and
it opens up a really a whole new world of
what you love about the game is that kind of
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what you do with yourself. The ball may be someplace else,
going absolutely someplace else, but you're watching your operation on film.
Is that how you evaluate more now than ever.
Speaker 5 (17:04):
Yeah, kind of similar to that, just certain plays when
you got a block, giving more efforts certain plays and
even if you're on a route that isn't getting the
ball running a good route, just to make put it
on tape and not just kind of just be back
there messing around and taking a playoff. No, but like
taking every play like it could be your last. So
I feel like that's a big thing that I'm trying
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to do this year.
Speaker 1 (17:26):
Are you a ball watcher when you watch what you did?
You used to be a ball watcher when you watch
sports in general? Or do you watch off the ball
the action, especially like football or basketball and such.
Speaker 5 (17:36):
I'm I definitely am a ball watcher, but once I
go back and look at the film, definitely looking more
off the ball and seeing different things that.
Speaker 3 (17:44):
Are going on.
Speaker 1 (17:45):
Josh downs at the Colts again versus the Rams Week four?
Coming up a four or five on Sunday. How big
has Reggie Wayne been in helping you out to get
through all that you've gone through so far in your
early career here?
Speaker 5 (17:59):
Yeah, Ni, Reggie's a great help. He's played there, been there,
done that, so that always helps. Having a guy who's
who's actually been on the field in the position and
done at a high level. So there's certain things that
you can ask him that you may not be able
to ask other coaches who didn't play at this level.
So I feel like that's the biggest thing helping us,
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being able to give us like end game scenarios that
he did and give us that insight.
Speaker 1 (18:25):
What's the like what would be I guess not even
a criticism, but coaching you up. What is the biggest
attention to detail that he has talked to you about
during the start of this season. Does anything stick out
to you from Reggie's angle?
Speaker 5 (18:41):
I mean, I don't want to like give away stuff.
Speaker 1 (18:43):
For real, but I mean you could fake it if you.
Speaker 5 (18:46):
Want some coaching points to me. But yeah, he's given
some closing points to me for I don't want to
Maybe somebody listen to is know what he told me,
and then they're like, oh, now we're going to look
out for that.
Speaker 1 (18:56):
So I hate to break it to you, but there
ain't nobody listening to this, probably with me. Now, I'm
just joking. That's just the tail and tape on the
show right here. No, and then listen everybody who's listening
to it right here? I mean, I'm a slippery noodle downtown.
It's a it's a hell of a day. I just
I find it interesting because it was kind of an
awakening of sorts for me as a sports fan when
I started watching other stuff than what is going on
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with the ball, and I think the coaching aspect of it,
trying to, you know, find out exactly what you guys
are being told, especially on the fly, because I think
hearing that, absorbing that, and then putting that the use
in the game, especially with everything else, Josh, that is
going on has to be incredibly difficult and takes a
higher level of maturation as a player.
Speaker 5 (19:40):
Oh, it definitely does you gotta. I mean, obviously this
is the highest level, so a lot like it's a
lot of smart players in the building. Pretty much everybody.
Speaker 6 (19:48):
Has good football IQ.
Speaker 5 (19:50):
So yeah, it's gonna be it's gonna be more detailed
in the film sessions and on the field than ever before.
But that's just what comes with the game at this level.
Speaker 1 (19:59):
Josh downs at the with us. What do you think
about the rams in the second? They're early overall defensively,
but certainly what you're going to be seeing coming up
in Week four in Southern California on Sunday.
Speaker 5 (20:09):
Yeah, they got a great front, they got a pretty
good secondary, and it's gonna be a good challenge for
as They're a great team, probably probably the best team
we're gonna play up to date. So I'm excited about that.
I'm excited to go out there and play on the
West Coast and play a really good team. So that's
that's what I say about that. Two good teams going
out of this league.
Speaker 1 (20:28):
You've got, uh, you got a pop coming up here,
and I mean a pop for a big game. That's
I've been talking about this this week on the show
that my expectation is, and you know, I know you
got a lot of good teammates around you, and that's
great for the team. But I am predicting a pop
relatively soon from you. I don't know if you feel
that way or not, but that's how I feel about
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your game. I'm expecting it here relatively soon.
Speaker 3 (20:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (20:54):
I appreciate that. Man, I'm just I'm just gonna keep
working it.
Speaker 3 (20:57):
But I do appreciate that.
Speaker 5 (20:59):
But the words being put in and when it's time
for that, it's time for that but we win in
right now.
Speaker 3 (21:05):
So let's just we're just.
Speaker 5 (21:06):
Gonna keep that going. But yeah, when when it does happen,
I'm gonna be all in for it and be thankful.
Speaker 1 (21:10):
Well, you just think about me, especially if it happens
on Sunday. Go. Hey, man, let's talking to this clown
on the radio in the latter portion of the week
and he says something was gonna pop, and hey, for
once this guy was was right, which is which is good?
Right here? That'd be great. But that's my prediction right there. Hey,
before I let you go, I didn't want to ask
you this. I'm sure you've probably been asking us a
number of times and it's old and tired, and I apologize.
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But what's it like to be in an operational situation huddle,
post huddle, pre snap with Daniel Jones? What's it like
playing with Daniel Jones in his first year's quarterback here?
Speaker 3 (21:47):
Oh?
Speaker 5 (21:47):
Yeah, great, great player, very smart player as well, like
we were talking about earlier, just having that IQ, Like
he's the guy that just understands the game and it's
just coming. It's just shown on the field right now.
And yeah, I mean he makes it easy on us.
Speaker 6 (22:01):
We don't have to really do.
Speaker 5 (22:03):
A whole lie besides read the coverage during our row.
But he sees it, and he's seeing it well right now.
Speaker 1 (22:10):
All right, when you pop, all right, we'll reach back.
I'll tell you what if you do, if you have
a popper, we'll reach back out next week and get
you back on and make sure we stay in that groove. Okay, man, Seriously,
I appreciate you. Yeah, so hey, it's always a pleasure
to have you on. Seriously, well done so far with
you and your team, and the best of luck in
southern California coming up on Sunday. Josh, thank you for
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the time.
Speaker 7 (22:32):
Thank you appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (22:35):
Mike Chapel of CBS four and Fox fifty nine is
on the Andy Moore Automotive Group potline. So Hey, Mike,
I just talked to Josh Downs, Cults wide receiver. I
feel as if his first pop of the season is
coming up on Sunday at four oh five or thereabouts.
Speaker 2 (22:53):
What say you?
Speaker 3 (22:54):
Yeah, he's due again. People need to keep in mind,
this is a guy that has more kitch.
Speaker 8 (23:00):
Which is in his first two seasons than any Colt,
and this is the franchise that has like Raymond Berry
and and Reggie Wayne and Marvin Harrison. So he's due.
It's it's just been a function of how the offense
is working right now, is working with Tyler Warren and
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Michael Pittman and Jonathan Taylor running. So he's going to
get his He's in that sweet spot over the middle
and those underneath routes that are going to be there,
and yeah, one of these games is going to have
I don't know, eleven targets and seven catches and I
don't know eighty ninety one and ten yards. So the
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hard part for all these guys receivers are are are
are cast I hate to use the word selfish, but
they all want the ball. They Reggie wanted the ball
when Marvin was getting the ball. So I think it
asks a lot of these guys to sort of wait
your turn and be patient. But I think that's how
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it's gonna be. And he's so, he's so due to
go off, and I won't be surprised when he does.
Speaker 1 (24:13):
To Mike Chapel of CBS four and Fox fifty nine,
are they any more automotive group, Ablo, I'm assuming it
would be good if he did go off. It would
be this weekend. Considering the circumstances we view right now
with Alec Pierce. Let's start right there with this offense
that has been fantastic, no turnovers first three weeks. It's
something that you're going to have to certainly maintain against
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the Rams coming up on Sunday. But I'm just taking
for example, there's gonna be no Alec Pierce. There's gonna
have to be a significant step up somewhere on this
team offensively.
Speaker 8 (24:45):
Yeah, and that's a d Mitchell. That's I mean, we
we've talked early in the year and even before the season,
how with all these uh you know, with this deep
set of skill players, which includes Tyler Warren, there's gonna
to be guys that have to wait. And Ady Mitchell
is kind of that guy because he's the fourth receiver.
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He just is, and he'll be the guy that if
if pierces out, then then then Ad kind of takes
that spot. If Pierce goes out, or if Downs or
Pittman go out, he sort of steps into their spot.
So and he's got deep ball Capleville has He had
that one at Tennessee where it was a jump ball.
He got a thirty or forty yard DPI. It's not
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a catch, but it's the yards of the yards. But yeah,
he and I've got decent excuse me, I've got decent confidence.
He had another good camp, he's played well, he's by
this time and made some good catches. So if he's
been getting two or three targets the game, he should
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get four or five or six this league, just because
Pierce is such an integral part of this offense. And
we always, you know, wrong, call him a one trick
pony for the deep balls. He's really showing a more
deeper repertoire in his route running. So this is a
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good chance for ad.
Speaker 2 (26:14):
Mike Chappell who joins us.
Speaker 1 (26:15):
Now, what's been I know we talked about the quarterback,
you talked about Jonathan Taylor, all that in mind, what's
been most impressive to you during the Star for the
Colts being three and zero?
Speaker 8 (26:28):
Probably Daniel Jones. And again, I've got to find a
better way to describe it. He's he's not a game manager,
but he's managing the offense expertly. Game managers sort of
just are out there handing the ball off and throwing
eight yard passes. That's not what he's doing, but he's
playing in such a high level of efficiency. I think
(26:52):
it was Shane Sdyke and told us that, you know,
he's a guy that's gonna find find receptions. He's like
seventy percent and it's like nine point three yards in attempt.
I think only Lamar Jackson's higher. His career high is
six point eight. So you know, while he's working the
ball underneath really well and getting Taylor heavily involved, he's
(27:14):
still taking his shots, you know, run after catch because
the ball placement. So I guess what I said, and
I sort of think this is an offense that can
travel because I just don't think they're doing anything out
of the ordinary. They're just running. The players are executing,
and yeah, you know at some point they're gonna have
a turnover because you know, stuff happens. But this is
(27:38):
like the franchise record for most consecutive games without a
turnover is four, So I mean in a season. People
forget they didn't have a turnover in the last game
last year, so they head both straight games, but you know,
they're like twenty four and three in the last twenty
seven games without without a turnover. So it's this isn't
(28:02):
rocket sized. The most you know, the most telling stat
as far as winning and losing is turnover ratio. Well,
I think the three teams don't have a turnover it's
the Colts, Tampa Bay, and Buffalo. They're all unbeaten. Well,
you know, duh. So I like the way Jones is
playing because I don't think he's doing anything that he
(28:25):
doesn't have the capabilities to do, and it should lend
itself to continuing.
Speaker 1 (28:31):
So the Colts have scored in seventy seven percent out
their offensive possessions this season. That's twenty of twenty six,
the most of any team after three games in forty
five years.
Speaker 2 (28:45):
You know, it's weird.
Speaker 1 (28:45):
How we go through all these eras, whether you're talking
about luck or manning, and this is what we're talking
about with this offense and it's firepower.
Speaker 2 (28:55):
So far, it's pretty amazing.
Speaker 8 (28:57):
Mike Well And again, one hundred and three points to
start a season. I just would have thought Peyton would
have done that. This goes back to like nineteen sixty seven.
So that's again, that's what it's crazy. And I wrote
about last week and I think that this is like
the old perfect storm with Daniel Jones getting a good offense,
(29:19):
a very good offensive line, and you pair him with
a running back. Remember he had he had sat Kwon
Buckley back in twenty twenty two. When the Giants bakes
the playoffs so that they're not asking Jones to do
extraordinary things, do your job make It's like Rick Finck,
but Rick fin Turny, I always talk make those six
(29:41):
or seven or eight plays that the quarterback has to make.
And whether it was that that third and six or
third and seven to pierce against Denver whatever, So that
that yet, but you're right, they're doing things that the
manning teams didn't do. Uh, it's it's too bad that
that that. Like, let's say they win Sunday, I don't
(30:01):
think they do against the Rams as Let's say they
do whether four and oh for the first time since
two thousand and nine, everything stops at two thousand and
nine on streets because they won their first fourteen you know,
so it sort of kind of stops your your the
longest since. But only if I'm pretty sure I've checked
this three or four times in the in the era,
(30:24):
only two quarterbacks have opened the season at least four
and oh. And it's hardball and manning, so you know
for Jones to be adding that group, primarily Peyton because
after the hardball's team started four and oh, they sort
of winning the dumpster for a while. But it is,
(30:45):
it's just it's just pretty impressive what they've done. And
we talked again the first half of the season, dug
down it. It's just conducive to getting off to a
good start and doing something. And then you've got Houston,
you know, wet in the bed every week, which is
helping quite a bit. So this is a chance to
(31:07):
set things up. I think every time the Colts started
three and oh in Indy they've made the playoffs. And
that's because you only play used to be sixteen now
seventeen games. You know here where here all diverge, but
you know as a Red fan they're in position to
(31:28):
earn a player or a wild card.
Speaker 3 (31:29):
And then they.
Speaker 8 (31:31):
Lose two games at home to Pittsburgh. Well there's only
like three games left, but at least in the NFL
you've got a chance to kind of recover. But getting
off to a three and no start, holy smokes, it
just makes things easier. You go to the Rams, tough
game and then you're home against is it the Raiders
in Arizona? Two games again that you're gonna be favored in,
(31:54):
and so it's there. If they take care of business,
I kind of this is the game they would lose
because the Rams are decent. Although I figure out there
and win this week, I won't be surprised. I just won't.
The defense I'm concerned about not having Kenny Moore's is
a big deal.
Speaker 3 (32:11):
It really is.
Speaker 8 (32:13):
But offensively they'll probably be without Matt Gonzalez is a
right guard. He didn't practice in the day with a
toe injury. Dalton Tucker would probably step in. But the
offense is and of course Pierce. But it's just playing well.
And there's a lot of talk about well, what's different,
(32:34):
accountability and all that stuff. They're just playing well. And
you know, this is a perfect example that when you
get good quarterback play you can do good things. Now,
if you get great quarterback play, like with Peyton and
those guys, you can do some really good things. Right now,
they're getting as good a quarterback play as you could
(32:55):
ever have expected from Jones, and all of a sudden
people are putting him on the MVP talk Now it's
very very early, but no one ever thought when Shange
Sdyken pick Jones over Richardson that they say, you know,
maybe he's gonna be in the in the the indip talk.
Not a chance, but so far, so good. I like
(33:16):
the way they're playing, and I think he's got a
chance to continue.
Speaker 2 (33:20):
My chapel with us.
Speaker 1 (33:21):
Before I let you go, Kenny Moore, what do you
think is the longer term situation for him? Whenever we
hear cav and Achilles and those relatables around here, that's
not good and not good whatsoever. What are you thinking
about the longer term for the coach defensive back?
Speaker 8 (33:39):
Yeah, when you hear Achilles, you think of Tyree's Telibert
and laying on the floor, pound on the floor. I
Shange Styke and has mentioned that. Right now, they're not
talking or they're not considering the IR. I just from
being around this, I won't be surprised if come Friday
or Saturday they put him on IR because of the Achilles.
(34:00):
You just don't mess with that and give him a
chance to really let that thing heal, whatever whatever level
of injury it is. If you're going to be a
good team, if you're going to play into November, December
and January and in meaningful games. I'm not sure the
half can anymore in December and January than risk it.
(34:21):
So when they said Achilles, I thought, and when I
heard calf injury, my mind defaulted to an Achilles. And again,
maybe they don't put him on IR which again that's
four games, not the season's four games. It would give
him a chance to not push it because you know,
can anymore's gonna push it because that's who he is,
(34:42):
That's who players are. I won't be surprised at all
if if I are happens over the weekend.
Speaker 2 (34:50):
There is Mike Chapel of CBS four and Fox fifty down.
Speaker 1 (34:54):
Good to see him, brother, always good to have you
here at Mike Wells is going to make his triumphant
return to the show come up tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (35:00):
How excited are you about that?
Speaker 8 (35:03):
I wouldn't say very excited. I'm I'm kind of excited.
He is the NFL.
Speaker 3 (35:13):
Good for him.
Speaker 1 (35:14):
Yes, hey, Mike, I appreciate that, and enjoy the game
at Beach Grove this weekend.
Speaker 2 (35:18):
We'll do it again next Thursday. Thank you you guys.
Speaker 3 (35:21):
Be well.
Speaker 2 (35:22):
He amp Antoine Ghenad sit down here.
Speaker 1 (35:27):
I want some headsets there. Make sure we got headsets
going on here. We got amp Paris, we got the
former Coult safety They awesome. Antoine Mfay who is joining
us now? Guys, how we doing? We look at you town?
Speaker 2 (35:40):
Where do you live? Normally North Carolina? Well son of
a God. Welcome home, friend, welcome home.
Speaker 3 (35:47):
Always good to get.
Speaker 2 (35:48):
We were trying to do that tomorrow. But you're getting
out of town later on today. Hey, what are we
doing in town with Antoine this weekend? It's a big deal, right, Yeah, Well.
Speaker 4 (35:56):
Today we had a mental health symposium with Antoine Day
and Greg Odin over at Warren Central High School talking
to high school kids. Yeah, the importance of protecting their
mental health. Uh so that was that was the most
important thing. And tomorrow Antoine is being honored for the
work he's done on the football field at the Socle
City Classic Coaches lunching.
Speaker 2 (36:17):
That's awesome, man, that's well done. Did him get you
in town because his daughter goes to Howard? Is that
how that works?
Speaker 3 (36:24):
Not at all?
Speaker 6 (36:24):
But you always a good that's a good connection.
Speaker 1 (36:30):
Man. Your daughter's going to I met, your daughter's show going.
I'll kick all the coverage. Hey, she's looking awesome.
Speaker 6 (36:35):
The crazy thing is she's now working for the NFL
Players Association.
Speaker 2 (36:38):
Oh man.
Speaker 4 (36:39):
Wow, she's at a senior at Howard and she's working
for the NFL players So great, And see surrounded by
all of these uncles that played in the NFL.
Speaker 2 (36:49):
That's outstanding. Oh man, time. What do you think about
this coast of the season, Antoine, So far from what
you've seen, looking good?
Speaker 7 (36:56):
Man, gotta keep it rolling.
Speaker 3 (36:57):
Man.
Speaker 7 (36:59):
First off, I'm excited to see Daniel Jones playing the
way he's playing. You know, his rookie year was my
last year in the league when I was in New York. Yeah,
and when he came in as a rook I thought
he had all the twos to be a good quarterback,
you know, but unfortunately in New York that we won't
(37:21):
touch on that, but I think that. But what what
the coach are doing right now? Man?
Speaker 3 (37:29):
They look good.
Speaker 2 (37:30):
Look.
Speaker 7 (37:31):
I can't even say playing complimentary football because that would
be offense, defensive, special teams. Special teams haven't really been
out there that much besides the field, But offensive defensively,
the guys look good.
Speaker 2 (37:47):
I they haven't turned the ball over.
Speaker 7 (37:49):
Yeah, that's that's the incredible stat to me, winning formula.
Speaker 1 (37:53):
They'll probably turn it over five times, but that has
been amazing. And you know, you look at that and
look at sakuon Barkley and what he accomplished once he
got out of there, and maybe the tell of the
tape right there.
Speaker 9 (38:06):
Man, you know, just sound like something you was just
saying in the car. What were you saying in the
car and what you just saying, I know what you're
saying of the car. I mean literally what you just
said is what he said. Maybe it's not the players.
Speaker 2 (38:20):
That is great. I thank you, man, I appreciate that.
A little stellar force right there.
Speaker 4 (38:26):
We're sending the Grandpa Man and Twine coming to som
again at the Coach's Lunch and at Lucas Oil Stadium
at eleven o'clock. He'll be honored for again just all
of his stuff that he's done on the football field.
Speaker 2 (38:40):
Such a good dude, Oh my god.
Speaker 4 (38:41):
And so I've been trying to get him in its
perfect fit because when you think about Circle City Classic
and the whole HBCU connection, to have somebody who graduated
from an HBCU, you know that the number of players
that went to HBCUs is very limited when you think
about the amount of years the NFL has been in existence.
So he is something that you would look at as
(39:02):
a royalty from HBCU as it relates to the accomplishments
that he's had on the football field.
Speaker 2 (39:08):
Pay anything and twine.
Speaker 1 (39:09):
But you came out of Howard, people looked at you
as a long shot. Did you view yourself that way?
Speaker 3 (39:14):
Not at all, Not at all.
Speaker 7 (39:15):
I felt like, you know, I could play ball. But again,
you know I said this to the to the when
we was on the suppost on the panel today, is
that just wanted the opportunity. I think that's what anybody
wants in life, is just the opportunity. The coachs got
gave me that opportunity.
Speaker 3 (39:33):
I just ran with it.
Speaker 2 (39:35):
What is not still still?
Speaker 1 (39:37):
I shill kind of look at the day when you
left as not a good days, yea tough, heartbreaking and
watch you leave the coats and you realize how much
you had left in the tank right there.
Speaker 2 (39:50):
And sometimes that's part of the evaluation that dudes get wrong.
Speaker 3 (39:53):
Man, it is it is, it is, you know it
is what it is. Man.
Speaker 7 (39:58):
I had great eight great years here and you know
it was it was. You look at it, you know,
glass half full, half empty.
Speaker 3 (40:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (40:07):
I was able to travel the world, you know, go
to San France, go to Arizona, go to New York,
you know, but definitely would have been a situation.
Speaker 2 (40:15):
I would love to stay here and the Super Bowl
champion here in Indianapolis too, So awesome.
Speaker 6 (40:20):
Man, that's a better way to come into the league
your rookie year. Yeah, super Bowl champion.
Speaker 2 (40:24):
Can't beat that.
Speaker 1 (40:25):
Right.
Speaker 2 (40:26):
Then you get this guy right here, man legend. He
is a damn legend and he knows everybody in town.
I'll tell you what, man, you want to meet somebody
call him.
Speaker 1 (40:35):
He got you.
Speaker 2 (40:36):
Well, it depends depends on what you're calling for, no doubt. Hey,
how long Circle City Classics been going on.
Speaker 6 (40:45):
This is the forty first year.
Speaker 2 (40:46):
That's incredible.
Speaker 6 (40:47):
Yeah, I mean it's it's a staple in the community.
Speaker 4 (40:50):
And when you think about like the tradition of Classics
around the country, and that's again when you think about
players like Antoine who's played in the many of classics
coming from an hbe you school.
Speaker 6 (41:01):
To be able to come back to Indianapolis and be
honored in a.
Speaker 4 (41:04):
City that you won your Super Bowl Championship, ring in
the super the city that drafted you.
Speaker 6 (41:10):
So it's one of those things that I look at
it because the space that we live in.
Speaker 4 (41:15):
You know, back in the day when Twin was coming
up as a football player, you were intentional.
Speaker 6 (41:19):
And that's what he was talking about today.
Speaker 4 (41:21):
Him and Greg Olden were talking about how they were
so intentional about studying the plays and watching certain players
and asking a million questions to learn how to become a.
Speaker 6 (41:31):
Professional at this sport.
Speaker 4 (41:32):
Now we live in a society where content is more
important than intent. So for us to be able to
have players like him come back to the city, it's
something that was dear to my heart.
Speaker 6 (41:42):
I've been on Twin for like the last two years.
Speaker 1 (41:44):
Bro.
Speaker 6 (41:44):
I need you to come back, Bro, I want you
to come back. I want to honor you.
Speaker 4 (41:47):
But it wasn't necessarily all about what you did on
the football field with the Colts. But it's also about
your legacy of coming from a small school where you're
told you won't ever be able to accomplish this, this, this, that,
And now you're talking about a guy college graduate just
went into.
Speaker 6 (42:04):
The Hall of Fame.
Speaker 4 (42:06):
So people don't understand he is the image that I
would like to put up, you know, when you have.
Speaker 6 (42:12):
The big name players.
Speaker 4 (42:13):
No disrespect to my brother Reggie Wayne, but the cards
were laid out.
Speaker 6 (42:17):
For him, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4 (42:18):
Going to a huge school like the University of Miami,
you kind of knew you got a head start, but
from somebody who literally had to get it out of
the mud, as we would say in the hood, like
Antoine did.
Speaker 6 (42:29):
And still you look at him.
Speaker 4 (42:30):
Now, fourteen years in the league, he's the post a
child of what I would like to show in front
of young especially young black boys and girls, like it
doesn't matter where you start is where you finish.
Speaker 1 (42:42):
Man, I never have good dialogue like that. You know
you're luck y'all let you on here because you're so
much better than me. That pisses me off. I will
say this, I will say this. I mean, everybody's been
around you, Antoine, it's been incredible. Would Jim mersay the
impact jimmersay on.
Speaker 7 (43:00):
You, and just the way he ran the organization right
and and the way when he was around people, the
feeling that they had as well, you know what I mean,
because again owner, you know, sometimes the personality of an
owner could be offsetting sometimes just because I'm the big
wig I'm there. But it wasn't like that with with
(43:22):
with with mister Iersay. So again even when I, you know,
I came in town to celebrate his life, you know,
just to see the guys and just to see the
impact that he had on not just his players, not
his you know, his family, but the entire community.
Speaker 2 (43:36):
What are you going on today, Charlotte, North Carolina? What's
happening there?
Speaker 3 (43:39):
Man?
Speaker 7 (43:39):
I got three little ones that I'm running behind.
Speaker 2 (43:42):
All and so we're gonna play some safety. Are we
gonna get it?
Speaker 3 (43:46):
So?
Speaker 7 (43:46):
Right now my middle one he's playing linebacker around you know,
so my daughter twelve, I got a nine to five
year old, my boys, So I'm staying busy with that.
And then back on with my hometown. Open up a
community center. So that's something that I did, you know,
I obviously been doing with some a lot of work
with my foundation throughout the years, but the Safe Avory
(44:07):
Empowerment Center in Newport News, Virginia. So that's something that's
that's giving back to the community.
Speaker 1 (44:13):
I can't wait to that day we come back and
your your name goes up there in the ring, man,
I hope.
Speaker 2 (44:19):
So damn will happen. I hope, So, I hope So.
Speaker 1 (44:23):
I just I think about that era all the time,
and you know it's funny you get past it and
people embrace super Bowl forty one, and people always say, well,
you know what they should add more? I said, you
know how hard it is to get one like that
in this market especially, And you were here at the outset.
I mean it was like the cults were a punchline
at the outset and then they finally turned into something
(44:45):
that was legitimate, and we saw what winning was really about.
Speaker 4 (44:48):
And that's what we look at now, you know, we people,
we want to compare the glory years, and so every
since that that year from the Super Bowl on, every
team and every player that comes in after that, they're
fair they're unfairly judged, you know what I mean, Like
if your safety, every safety has to be like antoinea
Day or Bob Sanders. If you're a wide receiver, you
(45:11):
gotta be like Reggie and Marvin. If you're a quarterback,
you gotta be like Peyton. So it's really a tough situation.
But to be able to be around the organization like
I have and the players, to be able to see
the growth from like a uh, Eugene Daniels who played
for the Cold Sails and Safety back in the day,
looking at Bill Brooks and watching him. Me and John
(45:31):
Henn were together a couple of weeks ago. We're talking
to him about looking at the harm age. Yeah, so
when you think about and I'm fortunate because I was
through all of those errors.
Speaker 6 (45:43):
I'm telling my age right now, but I was.
Speaker 2 (45:45):
You look like the twenty eight. Don't know why let
you on this show because you pissed me off so much.
Good one, A good one. You look young and you
sound great and I don't have well, they don't know
my past. You ready, guy, So it's all good.
Speaker 6 (46:07):
So I could do this.
Speaker 4 (46:08):
But now, I mean, when you think about it, you know,
like even yourself, the legacy of the sports in Indianapolis,
it kind of goes hand in hand. And if you
don't have people who are passionate about our sports, it's
really tough to tell people the true story of what
we had to go through. So sitting here during this
remote and Twine being here and then knowing.
Speaker 1 (46:28):
Nancy Ersay's past hard. Now I should say Nancy Leonard's
passing yesterday. Jim Irsay's passion back. I mean, and I
represent misters everywhere I go.
Speaker 4 (46:37):
I keep him right here on my heart because I
got a chance to really get to know the person.
And you know, when you think about Indiana Black Expo,
we were able to honor him a couple of years ago,
and there was something mister Ersay never really did.
Speaker 6 (46:49):
He never went for public gratification.
Speaker 4 (46:52):
But like I told him, my thing was, mister ers
I wanted to recognize you for the things that people
did not know, the things that they did not see. Yes,
it's easy to because you're an owner, you're a billionaire,
all of those things. But when you think about the
philanthropic work of him as an owner and the things
that he's done and what he meant to the city.
I paralleled to like players like Antoine who during that era,
(47:14):
Reggie Antwine, Marlon Jackson, Gary Brackett, all of those guys
man that I watched make sure that our city was
represented very well. And if we can get just an
ounce of that from these guys today, then I know
we're doing the right thing. So kudos to mister Ersay
and the Ersay family for recruiting and drafting real quality
(47:34):
guys hero, thank you,
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