September 5, 2025 • 52 mins
00:00 - 8:47 - Charles Arbuckle from the Colts Radio Network then joins the show as the conversation turns back to the Colts and their season opener against the Dolphins!
8:48 - 28:04 - Joel Erickson from the IndyStar joins the show! Joel and JMV discuss the season opener for the Colts! They talk about how long it’s been since the Colts have won a season opener!
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42:02 - 52:14 - Coach Bob Lovell from Indiana Sports Talk joins JMV to talk about the weekend of high school football! Coach and JMV go through the matchups and discuss what stands out!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
The Andy Moore on AMNI group Pileline, a part of
the Culture Radio Network. He is the former Colts tied end.
Charles Arbuckle joins us. So give me your thoughts at
the start here on this particular matchup. Let's go offense
versus defense. What we're going to see or expect to
see what Daniel Jones, Charles, and what Miami has to offer,
especially up front defensively, what are your thoughts going into
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the weekend of this week one matchup?
Speaker 2 (00:26):
Well, I've said.
Speaker 3 (00:27):
Often that the Colts have to play some good offense,
you know, that's the thing. They can rely on their
defense and it'll get you close, but they're going to
need to score points. And I think the biggest thing
jamb is getting off to a great start. It looks
like the reason why they have Daniel Jones is he
can protect the football from you know, maybe a few
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years ago, and he's even been good even the years
they weren't great. He's protected the ball. But making sure
you're getting into those weapons. Man, they got so many
weapons at the cold time that can make plays. And
then we we didn't see much of Jonathan Taylor. You
know j T, but you're going to see him now,
and I think that's a real key bonus point for
Daniel Jones. Having a strong running game takes you away
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from having to make plays all by yourself.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
Now with Miami, they're going to provide some challenges.
Speaker 3 (01:15):
I mean, this Miami team is going to be a tough,
tough out, but I do think since you haven't won
a game since opening game since twenty thirteen, it has
to be some of those explosives we saw. You have
to have some opportunities to turn the ball over like
we saw late in the preseason, and if the Colts
are going to do that, that gives them a chance
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to beat anybody in particularly the Dolphins.
Speaker 4 (01:39):
At Charles Chris Hagen, Fox fifty nine, it's been a
long long time since you used to come out and
hang out with me in the studio. Always good to
catch up with you, man, I'm hanging in. We talk about, oh,
it's a long season, one game at a time, it's
just one game. But when when you reference that long
draft of season opening wins, how important is it to
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go out there and finally start the season on a
positive note And how can opening weekends set the tone
for what's going to come the rest of the season.
Speaker 3 (02:09):
Well, you know, I mean I've been on teams guys
where we started out really slow. I can remember ninety two,
but we had to get hot and we missed the
playoffs by year. And then that ninety five season it
was a similar thing. We didn't start slow, but we
just didn't get going. The more you can win early
and keep that momentum because you never know what injury
is going to happen and all those other things, and
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if you've been a team that's kind of been playing
from behind, you, you know, for a while, it becomes
something that you start to expect instead of expecting to win.
And I think that's the part for me that I
want to see that mentality change with the folks. I
think that's the hardest part to get a team to understand, like, no,
this isn't normal. You shouldn't expect to start oh and
two or oh on one or oh on three. Your
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your expectation has to become if you're going to be
a playoff team, is that every time we come out
like the Eagles last night, there's a good example. You know,
Dallas showed something they you know, the Eagles were without
you know one of their key guys for bonehead to
I mean, one of the stupidest things you can do
is to split on somebody. We're fighting there, Dack held
as composers, that wouldn't have been me. But the thing is,
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look at the Eagles. They get started one to Zho.
It wasn't a pretty win.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
Right, but they got it done.
Speaker 3 (03:21):
That's how you have to start having that mentality if
you're a Colt's team in order to get into a
situation where you say, we go out and we expect
to win and however it happens, we have to make
it happen. And I don't think they've had that been
able to do that over the last few years.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
And let's see if that's the mentality that can start with.
Speaker 1 (03:39):
On Sunday, Charles Arbuckle, the former coach side end at
the Colts Radio Networks, on the Andy Mornet at Motive
Group hootline. This is not an original thought, but it
just seems like this would be the type of game,
the type of start where you want positive results. Here
is you lean heavily on Jonathan Taylor. Would you expect
that to be since the game plan offensively to start
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for the Colts.
Speaker 3 (04:04):
I would think you see a heavy doser a JT. Yeah,
Jonathan Taylor has to be your bread and butter, right,
I mean that's why, that's.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
Why he is who he is.
Speaker 3 (04:11):
That's why you think of him as a guy that's
over what twelve thirteen, fourteen hundred yards every year because
what it does is it sets up everything else.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
And now that you have a weapon.
Speaker 3 (04:22):
That I think is going to be valuable with the
tight end play, especially Tyler Warn, We're gonna see Tyler War.
Speaker 2 (04:26):
I'm just telling everybody.
Speaker 3 (04:28):
That can hear me in your airway, he's gonna catch
seventy he stays healthy, it may be more because that's.
Speaker 2 (04:34):
The way this guy can be utilized.
Speaker 3 (04:35):
And that creates things on the outside that you you know,
even the outside weapons that they the Colts have had
over the last few years now can become better. Peers
can be better. You know, all those guys in me
that we talked about over the years that have been
drafted by there. Ad Mitchell really has to step up
in my mind, and I think he will because Reggie
has made him his pet project, and I think he's
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done a really nice job of getting in his head
during the preseason. I want to see it now carry
over to the regular season. You're gonna need those kind
of guys and make plays. And that's gonna allow Daniel
Jones to do what. I don't need him to be
Alan Iverson shooting the rock all the time. I need
him just distributing the ball where it needs to go
because that defense is gonna take balls away. They're gonna
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be like those Colts teams where if they can stay healthy,
where Tony Jundi was always talking about, if we can
get thirty five to forty turnovers, Coach Lewis is gonna
dial that up too, And I think that's what you're
gonna see with this team. And they're gonna have to
start fast, and that's not gonna be easy against Tua
because he's one of the best guys in the league.
But I think the thing with Tua, like any other
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quarterback in the league, if you can get pressure on him,
which the Colts have said they can do now, that's
gonna make a difference.
Speaker 2 (05:45):
He's not comfortable in that pocket. He gets hit a
few times. We know his concussion history.
Speaker 3 (05:49):
I'm not saying you want to do that, but we've
seen him get hurt and they barely fell down.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
So you got to get some pressure on him.
Speaker 3 (05:56):
You got to make him uncomfortable, get him off platform,
and that's gonna be a key, I think to the
cults on Sunday as well, a lot.
Speaker 5 (06:03):
Of good points from Charles there.
Speaker 4 (06:04):
But of course jamb you noticed he started with the
tight end position he did.
Speaker 5 (06:08):
What a shock. Hey, Charles, Hey, look, Matt you got you.
Speaker 6 (06:11):
Hey.
Speaker 3 (06:11):
When I go to these coaches business in college. Now
I'm talking to Mike Schouler today, I'll say, hey, man,
you got to get your coaches, you got to get
your tight ends fall Tomorrow, I'm talking to the South
Carolina State.
Speaker 2 (06:21):
I don't care who would coach I'm talking to. I
want five or six every game. That's what they should get.
Speaker 4 (06:27):
And you're right, because if you have a tight end
that can make plays, it makes everybody around you more dangerous.
It makes them worried about more on defense. But on
to that point, I think you're better off if you
have five or six maybe not top tier weapons, but
if you have five or six guys that can do
something with the ball, that might be better than just
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having one marquee. You know, stud wide receiver because they
you have to prepare for more and you never know
what direction the Colts and Change Styken can come from.
And that's I see great flashes from all the positions,
wide receiver and tight end. Obviously, I think that can
be more dangerous than having just one marquee guy.
Speaker 3 (07:10):
Oh, I agree with you one hundred percent, because what
it does is then the middle of the field for
the Colts hasn't been a place where a lot of
guys want a roam. I mean, they have guys that
can do it right, but you can't ask a slot
guy to be the guy on third and five to
always go pick.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
That up right.
Speaker 3 (07:27):
You need a big, physical receiver and a tight end.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
So from my money, I.
Speaker 3 (07:34):
Can put you know, big Tyler Warren in the slot,
get him moving around, doing different things with him, because
I think that's what Shane wants to do. I think
they want to do that with his skill set. But
it doesn't stop you.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
From having a guy like Josh Downs if he can.
Speaker 3 (07:48):
I know he was a little bit nicked up in
the preseason, but he gives heat. It opens it up
for him, It opens it up for you know, Pittman.
It gets it I'm just telling you, when the field,
when you have to worried about the guy that's in
between those fashions in them, between those numbers and a
quarterback that can get it to him, that puts you
on notice. And I think we haven't even seen them
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kind of design things that they want to do and
kind of you know, pro guys open create plays for
different people. I think we'll see more of that now
because we're getting into the season. And that's why I
think Tyler Warren is a key component of this offense
is year.
Speaker 1 (08:24):
Farmer Coast tight end. Charles Arbuckle also a part of
the Cult Radio Network. He's joining us on the Andy
Moore Automative group Pileline Buddy, It's always a pleasure.
Speaker 5 (08:33):
We'll check in next week and see how this game.
Speaker 1 (08:35):
Goes on Sunday and then preview of the Broncos Week
two matchup at Lucas Royl Stadium as well.
Speaker 5 (08:40):
Charles, thank you, hey, guys.
Speaker 2 (08:43):
I'm a good one man, always just talking to you.
Speaker 1 (08:47):
Fourth and Joel on Fox fifty nine can be seen
along with Chris Hagen. What can be seen here is
we thought Joey Erickson of the Star was going to
join us live at Taylor's Pub and Nora, however, he
is is on the Andy Moore Automotive Group hootline.
Speaker 5 (09:02):
So Joel, A, what gives here?
Speaker 6 (09:05):
I just I just couldn't make it work.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
I h have to. Uh.
Speaker 6 (09:11):
I promised that one of my sons that he he
gets to work on his pitching uh here this afternoon.
So shortly after I get up with you, I got
to get my catchers met out and uh.
Speaker 4 (09:21):
Wow, Joel Joel j mv off Air was like, let's
give him a bunch of blank for not being here,
and I'm like, I'm still going to Joel plays. Joel
plays the ultimate trump card. Excuse me for being a
good father, John. So hey, hey, Joel, this is this
is the difference here.
Speaker 1 (09:39):
Do you squat normally when you're the catcher or do
you sit on a five gallon bucket?
Speaker 5 (09:46):
What do you do?
Speaker 2 (09:46):
I no, I I know.
Speaker 7 (09:47):
I still I still get in the squat, I still
get there.
Speaker 5 (09:50):
Go buddy.
Speaker 1 (09:51):
All right, that makes up a little bit for your
no show. But I mean Andrew Catalan of CBS did
the same thing. I know I'm a bad influence, but
it seems like you guys are inventing reasons as to
not to show up with me because you may be
a little bit scared about your image.
Speaker 5 (10:07):
But don't be scared. Don't be scared, well.
Speaker 7 (10:10):
I said, I will.
Speaker 6 (10:12):
I will leave open the possibility if.
Speaker 7 (10:13):
You if you get back up over into.
Speaker 6 (10:15):
My neck of the woods, the next time you're up
over in my neck of the woods, we'll look at
it again and see if I can make it work
that time.
Speaker 5 (10:22):
All right, Well, I may I am a bad influence.
Speaker 1 (10:26):
I will note that, but it's all in the form
of having a good time. That's that's why, Joe, I will.
And when you're around me, you're going to have a
damn good time. There's no doubt about that every time
right there? Now, how good of a time do you
expect the Colts fans to have if at all? Coming
up on Sunday, we were kind of going over you know,
all the wrinkles in that game and reason ultimately begin.
(10:47):
It does get down to execution with this team, and
how good of a team you are.
Speaker 5 (10:50):
What's your thoughts on matchup with.
Speaker 1 (10:52):
Two teams that really are speaking of five gallon buckets
in a similar five gallon bucket, I think to start
this season.
Speaker 6 (11:00):
Yeah, I think the Dolphins are. The more I've looked
at them this week, this is a fascinating opening opponent
to me because I can, depending on how I go,
I can kind of talk myself into into the Dolphins
that look looks scarier than people think, or or I
can also talk myself into well that they've got these weaknesses.
(11:21):
So you know, the real quick version is like they
still have they have a healthy to at Tako Baila,
and then they have you know, those two burners on
the outside and Wadle and Hill, and we've seen in
the past where that offense has looked really good early.
Speaker 7 (11:35):
In the season.
Speaker 6 (11:36):
But then if you go and look at their offensive
line player by player, you think, well, the Colts should
have a huge advantage there because they're they're pretty inexperienced
and they've kind of remade that offensive line and I
don't really know what to expect from it. Same same
thing on the defense. They have some names as pass
rushers on the egg. They've got about four guys on
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the edge. I think Zach Siler inside is probably maybe
the most underrated defensive player in football. But then if
you get back to the secondary, there's a ton of
questions in that secondary.
Speaker 7 (12:09):
So I feel like the Dolphins are.
Speaker 6 (12:11):
An interesting They're an interesting opening opponent because you can
kind of you can kind of see it both ways,
with both sides of the ball.
Speaker 4 (12:22):
Joel, I know every year we've had to talk about
this and you know, for a decade in the locker room,
and players say it's a different team, it's a different year.
But they're aware that they haven't won an opener since
twenty thirteen, and it's always, you know, teams that win
opening week go on about, you know, sixty eight percent
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of the time to make the playoffs. So it's a
big deal even though it's a long season. They're well
aware of that. And I just think psychologically, given what
ELL's gone on with the franchise, I think it's just
this game is really important to go out there and win.
And as we've been talking about him, as Las Vegas
has been talking about, this is really a coin flip game.
So I just really think this is a huge tone
center more so than other seasons.
Speaker 6 (13:02):
What about you, I I think the other thing is
this opener is there's there's added weight to it. You know,
this they're going to put h Jim Ursay in the.
Speaker 7 (13:15):
Ring of Honor.
Speaker 6 (13:16):
And when we've asked players and coaches about that, you know,
a lot of times you ask players and coaches about
does this add extra meaning to the game, They're like, no,
they're all the same, and we all know that's not
necessarily true, but you know, we all kind of have
to go along with it. Well, this this week they've said, no,
this this does add a little bit of something you
you want, they want to win on the day that
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Jim Mersey goes into the Ring of Honor. There's there's
an emotional attachment there for the the organization as a whole,
for for Shane Stichen all all that stuff. That the
stuff with this opener streak is truly like it. It
makes no sense really when you look at who is
favored in these games who wasn't favored. Like the twenty
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twenty game where the Colts lose in Jacksonville. Now that
was a double curse because you have the opener Andy
in Jacksonville.
Speaker 7 (14:08):
But that was the only.
Speaker 6 (14:09):
Game that Jacksonville team won, and that's that twenty twenty
team is probably the best Colts team of the last
decade and they still lost the opener. So there have
been some real weird ones in this streak in terms
of how did even looking back after you see the
rest of the season, you go, how did they lose
that game?
Speaker 4 (14:29):
You think they would just accidentally win one of those
games in that amount of time. As weird as the
league is and the different you know, the different talent.
I mean, let's remember Andrew Lux started a lot of
those games, and there were some there was some good team.
There was an AFC championship game appearing to in twenty
fourteen team that couldn't win the opener.
Speaker 5 (14:46):
So it is strange. But you know, that's what makes.
Speaker 4 (14:48):
Sports so great is you you can't predict some of
these things, and a lot of things don't make sense.
But I agree with you in that this is just
a really intriguing matchup when you when you think about
a coin toss game and the money's coming in, most
of the money is coming in on the Dolphins, So
I guess nationwide they don't have much faith in the Colts.
But it comes down to what I think, which is
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very cliche in football, is going to come down to
quarterback play. You mentioned a healthy two. When he's good,
he's really good. What what if things go right for
the Colts. What is Daniel Jones doing well on Sunday?
Speaker 7 (15:23):
Well, I think number one.
Speaker 6 (15:25):
If things go right for the Colts, the offensive line
is giving Daniel Jones loss of tigh. Jones is not
going to hold the ball as long as Anthony Richardson did.
Speaker 7 (15:35):
We have the next gen stats to know that he's been.
Speaker 6 (15:39):
He's been borderline top ten. I think he was eleventh
last year. This is Daniel Jones, and I think he
was thirteenth or something like that the year before. In
terms of getting the ball out of his hand after
the snap, Richardson was much closer.
Speaker 7 (15:54):
I think he was.
Speaker 6 (15:54):
I think Richardson was sixth slowest in the league. And
there are guys like Jalen Hurts tends to be higher
on that lift or you know, in terms of he
takes a longer time throw the ball. So there's no
there's not necessarily a correlation, but it definitely helps.
Speaker 7 (16:09):
So Jones is gonna help there.
Speaker 6 (16:10):
But they've got to keep keep I think if you
keep the Dolphins out of the backfield regularly, you start
looking at this Dolphins secondary, particularly outside corners, and you think,
you know what Daniel Jones is gonna have a chance
to make some plays here as long as he has time.
Speaker 1 (16:26):
It's Joey ericson to the star. First in Joel with
Chris Hagen Fox fifty done as well. He's on the
Andy Moore Automotic group hoodline. But light Blue Friday where
in Nora eighty six in Westfield Boulevard at Taylor's Pub
with your chance to win Dolphins Colts tickets the Nightmare
by the way, too, You remember Joel the last receiver,
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the leading receiver the last time the Colts won in
weight number one?
Speaker 7 (16:52):
Oh?
Speaker 8 (16:53):
No, was.
Speaker 5 (16:55):
It Reggie Wayne?
Speaker 1 (16:57):
Yeah, Reggie Wayne was the last leading receiver the last
time was was the leading receiver.
Speaker 5 (17:03):
Last time I'll go you one better?
Speaker 4 (17:06):
Luck was the quarterback the last time they won a
season opener they played the Oakland Raiders.
Speaker 5 (17:11):
Who was the raiders starting quarterback? Rrell Pryor? You look
that up? Didn't you know that? Joel? Joel? That is
my big uh John Denny Green? Denny Green.
Speaker 2 (17:23):
No, he's not even with us any exactly.
Speaker 7 (17:25):
Holy hell.
Speaker 6 (17:26):
The last time the Colts won an opener, I was
still covering the University of I was still covering Auburn University.
Speaker 5 (17:36):
Was Gus Malson the head coach.
Speaker 7 (17:39):
Guts malls On was the head coach.
Speaker 6 (17:41):
Yep, ye, man, I have covered, I have covered, I've covered.
This is my eighth Colt season, and I covered three
Saint seasons before that. And to go back to the
last time they won an opener, I was still in Auburn.
Speaker 4 (17:57):
Was James Boyd a freshman in high school the last
time the Colts one season.
Speaker 6 (18:01):
I'm sure, I'm sure wherever James Boyd was at that
point would would make all of us feel terrible. I
don't know where he was.
Speaker 7 (18:13):
There's no way they don't feel terrible. Hey.
Speaker 1 (18:16):
By the way, James played pickup hooop with us a
week before last and was tried to talk junk out there.
I hope yeah, no, not no, because I whip his ass,
but no, it no, he was trying to talk. It
was really funny though, he was. He was, hey, Joel,
he was extremely wound up, and I loved it. Actually,
everybody he played with actually loved it too, so it
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was it was really funny.
Speaker 6 (18:40):
Yeah, he said, he said, he's been getting out there
with you.
Speaker 1 (18:44):
No, yeah he is, and he actually you can count
on to show up. He's a good player, he runs
the floor, we'll get a good workout in. So man,
I do appreciate him going out with us.
Speaker 6 (18:54):
I finally, I finally got back on the pickup.
Speaker 7 (18:57):
Court this morning.
Speaker 6 (18:59):
I had given myself some time off because I was
a little concerned about the the old Achilles in the summer,
and I was like, you know, let's not let's not mess.
Speaker 5 (19:10):
Around with that, because you saw Halliburton, is why.
Speaker 1 (19:13):
And we all, I think we all grabbed our calf
and we saw Halliburton back in June in Game seven,
every every one of us.
Speaker 5 (19:19):
Yes, yeah, I had I had some.
Speaker 6 (19:21):
I had some you know, tightness soreness back there after
the after the Church softball season, thought let's let's not
push this and end up end up doing some first
and joels on crutches in the in the fall.
Speaker 5 (19:33):
Yeah, I know.
Speaker 1 (19:34):
I played three days in a row this week, and
I took the last two days off because I was
a little tight in that category too.
Speaker 5 (19:41):
And it all, it all.
Speaker 1 (19:43):
Goes back there, like Halliburton has laid the groundwork for
me to think a little bit more about that, because
my ass is done if I ever do that.
Speaker 5 (19:50):
And he's gonna come back and be stronger than ever.
Speaker 1 (19:52):
But I'm absolutely done and that that's a nightmare.
Speaker 5 (19:56):
It really is.
Speaker 1 (19:56):
But it shows us a little bit of the way
us UH picked gamers out there, for sure, Joel, I
was gonna mention this, this is a nightmare scenario to me.
Speaker 5 (20:06):
All the work that they did and.
Speaker 1 (20:08):
The concentration of the secondary, and it's going to be
tested beyond belief.
Speaker 5 (20:12):
As you mentioned a little bit earlier in Week number.
Speaker 1 (20:15):
One, I still want to see that come through and
legitimize that, if not for the entirety of the season,
at least in week number one. And I don't think
you could have a better matchup to see exactly what
you did in the off season and what is moving
forward defensively in that secondary. Then what you're going to
witness offensively and defensively between the Dolphins and the Colts
(20:38):
coming up on Sunday really good test.
Speaker 6 (20:41):
Yeah, I'm really interested in seeing how Xavi and Howard plays.
I think you know what we saw of Tarvari's ward,
I think he kind of I'm expecting him to play
pretty well this season. I liked what everyone saw from
Cam buying him on a training camp. We know Xavion
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Howard hasn't played since games since I think New Year's
even twenty twenty three, and putting him out there at
thirty two years old.
Speaker 7 (21:10):
It sounded to me like they planned on playing.
Speaker 6 (21:12):
Him at least a significant amount. That's interesting, especially against
these two guys and.
Speaker 7 (21:18):
How just the long speed that they have.
Speaker 6 (21:21):
When it was justin Wally going up, you know, in
the starting lineup before he got hurt in the joint
practice against Baltimore, Wally was a guy who gives you
four four speed.
Speaker 7 (21:33):
At that corner.
Speaker 6 (21:34):
I thought that was one of the interesting things about him,
was that maybe the Colts were going to prioritize speed
a little bit more at corner. But you know how
in Howard, it's pretty clear at lou An Arumo is
his prioritizing experience, which is one of the things that
he was kind of known for and sometimes criticized for
in Cincinnati. It's it's really he Xavion Howard might be
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the most interesting player in this game if outside of
outside of you know, everybody wondering what happens with Daniel Jones.
I think how Xavi and Howard plays against this team
specifically that can test you with all that speed on
the outside. That's that's maybe the most interesting thing about
this game is is you know, can this guy still
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play like what we we didn't see him last year?
What what's he look like?
Speaker 5 (22:22):
Joey?
Speaker 4 (22:23):
You mentioned given Jones time if he does have some time.
How do you feel about the Colts skill position? Guys
at wide receiver, tied end, obviously at running back. I mean,
there are some some pieces in place where this offense,
you know, when healthy and when when executing, they can
put up some numbers, can't they?
Speaker 6 (22:43):
Yeah, I think, and I think in so much of
it dependent on the quarterback.
Speaker 7 (22:47):
But I really think it's a good group.
Speaker 6 (22:50):
I think it's a good Tyler Warren adds the missing keys,
and I'm really interested to see, you know, what the
Colts do with him when they have a chain.
Speaker 7 (23:00):
It's the game planet because he's.
Speaker 6 (23:01):
Got the he's got the run after the catch. It's
it's something that not a lot of tight ends have,
even fewer have it the way he has it, where
he's a lot of tight ends are good after the
catch in space when there's you know, they're they're eight
to ten yards downfield and they've got room between them
and a linebacker. Tyler Warren is used to running the
line of scrimmage as a wildcat quarterback. That means that
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those tight end screens that fans have hated for for years,
going back to multiple coaching staff, that's a different kind
of player that's going to be getting.
Speaker 7 (23:32):
Those tight end screens this year.
Speaker 6 (23:34):
This is more of a guy with a running backs
instincts and abilities. Same thing with with some of those
other short routes over the over the.
Speaker 7 (23:43):
Middle is this. This is a guy who's who's.
Speaker 6 (23:46):
A different kind of runner after the catch, and I
think he really brings it all together. He gives them
something they didn't have at that position and it probably
makes the rest.
Speaker 7 (23:54):
Of them better. They they're less of they we don't.
Speaker 6 (23:57):
We all know they don't have the number one, the
Jamar Chase type, but they have a lot of guys
who do something really really well and that's that's probably
if Daniel Don't can get in the football, I think
that they can spread it around in a lot of
ways that end up helping the offense.
Speaker 4 (24:16):
It's going to be exciting to see because in years
past we've seen Steike and had things schemed up properly,
but the execution was not there. So if you have
people that are executing, and we know what kind of
football mind he is, if you get those two on
the same page, the scheming, the play calling and the execution,
I think Colts fans will be really pleased with the results.
Speaker 7 (24:37):
Yeah, that's that.
Speaker 6 (24:38):
I think is the bet that Shane Stiken specifically is
making more than any other is just they've had a
lot of miss opportunities over the last couple of years
with him. He's you think about the fact that the
Colts are.
Speaker 7 (24:51):
Seventeen and seventeen.
Speaker 6 (24:53):
With you know, Gardner Minshew, Anthony Richardson and Joe Flacco
at quarterback and some really bad stretches of quarterback play.
Speaker 7 (25:01):
In that time.
Speaker 6 (25:03):
It's not good. It's obviously not good enough. I think
Colts fans are obviously justified and wanting to see more.
But you want you find yourself thinking, you know, they
did get themselves to eleventh in the league and offense
when Minshew started most of the season in twenty twenty
three and they were able to, you know, somewhat stay
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in the midx of the playoffs with all the mets
that were going on at quarterback last year, and so
that makes you wonder. You know, change second does seem
to be pretty good at finding the weaknesses in a defense.
If Daniel Jones can take what he knows of the offense,
because it sounds like he's a guy who really has
mastered the offense, if he can take that and put
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in the practice on the field, you know, can can
this be a better offense? And I think really anybody
around the NFL is.
Speaker 1 (25:52):
Expecting joelay Erickson with us in closing, Buddy, what's your
call on the season? I said to nine. Mike Chappell
agreed with me yesterday.
Speaker 5 (26:02):
What say you?
Speaker 7 (26:04):
I think I had seven wins?
Speaker 6 (26:05):
I think I went with seven wins. It is as
much as you can see a best case scenario for
Daniel Jones. I just I might just be worn down
by high hopes for quarterbacks for the last four years
that haven't turned out.
Speaker 5 (26:24):
Well, there's one of those seven wins on Sunday.
Speaker 6 (26:26):
Joel, Yeah, because at some point the streak hast end right.
I know that's like you're not supposed to bet, You're
not supposed.
Speaker 7 (26:33):
To bet against the streak, But I think so.
Speaker 6 (26:35):
My boss, our sports editor, not Newell, ran the ran
the numbers on it I think he said it's something
like point zero six percent chance of the Colts losing
all of these openers when you take into account who
was favored by how much and all that stuff.
Speaker 7 (26:50):
Wow, it's got at some point.
Speaker 1 (26:55):
Yeah, and no better time than Sunday, no doubt about that.
Joey eeriction of the Star. What time I'm is first
in Joe along with you? Well, yes, you're not saying
it right. You have to see first s.
Speaker 5 (27:04):
Then Joel, Well.
Speaker 4 (27:06):
Eleven thirty Sunday morning on CBS four kickoff to follow
it one. So set it on CBS four eleven thirty
and just don't change it till about five.
Speaker 5 (27:14):
You know what we honestly should do, Joel.
Speaker 1 (27:16):
We should set you up at this time every Friday
with Hagen.
Speaker 5 (27:19):
And like do that and promote that bad boy.
Speaker 7 (27:21):
What do you think.
Speaker 8 (27:24):
I mean?
Speaker 4 (27:25):
All right, and we know what now, I gotta I
gotta have more questions for Sunday. I barely had enough
for today. Come on, man, I'm gonna repeat y'all. Just
remember everything he said. We'll do it again on Sunday.
Speaker 7 (27:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (27:36):
I'm going to take some of this stuff and just
send it to send it to our friend Phil for three.
Speaker 1 (27:40):
Key for the keys, Joel, appreciate you man, have a
great weekend. Do some strong catching for the kid. Okay,
you bet, you bet.
Speaker 6 (27:48):
Like I said, at some point, when you get back
out my way, I will come.
Speaker 7 (27:51):
I will come in person this year.
Speaker 1 (27:54):
And at some point you'll probably regret that decision, but
we'll talk about that later.
Speaker 5 (28:01):
Thanks, buddy.
Speaker 1 (28:04):
Let's get right to it on the Andy Moore on
a Motive Group hotline, because I'm assuming we are making
a bee line right now down to Ellisville, Indiana for
the two and oh Stallions and.
Speaker 5 (28:16):
Or Mustangs of Edgewood High School.
Speaker 1 (28:19):
They get South Putnam later on this evening high school
football game number three for everybody, including Edgewood and the
voice of the Hoosiers, Don Fisher.
Speaker 5 (28:29):
Are you in our en route right now to Ellisville?
Speaker 9 (28:33):
The truth is, John, I'm en route to Bloomington and
I'm not going to be able to see the game
tonight because I'm am seeing the Hall of Fame banquet.
Speaker 1 (28:42):
Well that's just ridiculous. Do they not understand the consequences
of that? You start out two and oh with Edgewood
and you can't go what the hell?
Speaker 2 (28:52):
I know?
Speaker 9 (28:52):
It's disappointing, and there's nothing I can do about it
because they always ask me to do this, and I
didn't know the date and how it would work out
in that context. But it's always on a Friday before
a whole football game, so it is this week, so
it's tonight.
Speaker 5 (29:12):
Can can we blame Scott Dolson for this?
Speaker 9 (29:16):
You can't, or you can.
Speaker 7 (29:18):
You can.
Speaker 2 (29:19):
You could blame anybody.
Speaker 5 (29:20):
You'd like, Fisher, So you're a victim of the date,
you know.
Speaker 4 (29:28):
I understand Fish is a victim of his own success. Yeah,
you know, if you were some loser, Fish, they wouldn't
want you around anything. But when you throw your name
on something, I mean, it adds to the prestige. You
think you athletics, You think Don Fisher. So it wouldn't
be the same without you, So I know, and I'm
sure over your long tenure at IU, I bet there
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are countless sacrifices you've had to make. And that's what
that's one of the downsides of having a job like
we do.
Speaker 9 (29:57):
You're correct in that it is a part of a job,
and it's something that I've done this for so many years.
I think I missed one here in the last ten maybe,
but I probably have done this for the last twenty
years plus, so it's kind of an institution, so to speak.
But there will be a time when somebody else takes over,
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and that will be five.
Speaker 1 (30:22):
So you know that South Putt's two and oh much
like the Stallions, and South Putts put up one to
eighteen in two games offensively so far. I mean, this
is a three to a clash in Week three tonight.
Speaker 2 (30:38):
It is the South button.
Speaker 9 (30:40):
Them program has been good for some time, without question,
and they absolutely destroyed Edgewood last year and the year before,
so they've dealt with these guys previously. We're hoping that
tonight is a little bit different story at least one
that's a lot closer in score that it was last year.
Speaker 2 (31:01):
I can't even remember what the score was, it was
so bad. So running back, the.
Speaker 9 (31:06):
Running back supposedly for South Putts ran for six hundred
plush yards in two games.
Speaker 1 (31:16):
When is he like thirty five years old?
Speaker 5 (31:19):
What we got?
Speaker 2 (31:20):
I don't.
Speaker 9 (31:20):
I don't know how old he is. All I know
is he's obviously pretty dog gone good.
Speaker 1 (31:25):
Yeah is hey, my big, my big question is are
you staying in Bloomington tonight?
Speaker 9 (31:31):
We are Susie and I are headed down there to speaking. Yes,
we are staying overnight because we have a twelve noon
kickoff and at eleven o'clock pre game show tomorrow, so
we get we get a night in the student union.
Speaker 1 (31:44):
All right, So you guys going to Brothers Bar and
Grill to celebrate later on this evening.
Speaker 5 (31:48):
Where you guys got where all the kids go.
Speaker 10 (31:52):
We are not going to Brothers Bar and Grills.
Speaker 9 (32:01):
John Susie says, We're going to the Frangi Panty Room.
Speaker 5 (32:04):
No, you are? Are you won? We used to have them.
Speaker 1 (32:07):
That's where I used to Yeah, well you should because
that's where I had my junior prom for Eastern Green.
Speaker 9 (32:13):
I understand that, but I don't think there's a problem
there to night, and they may have locked the doors,
who knows.
Speaker 5 (32:20):
Yeah, I love that though. That'd be a great time.
Speaker 1 (32:23):
Hey, don tell us a little bit about Kennesaw State,
because I don't know a damn thing, to be quite honest,
I'm assuming you do.
Speaker 5 (32:29):
It's in Georgia.
Speaker 10 (32:30):
Well, I know a little bit about him.
Speaker 9 (32:31):
They have one of our former Indiana quarterbacks as their quarterback.
Dexter Williams is the quarterback. After saying out a year
with an injury of force in Indiana and then transferring
to Georgia Southern and Exeter is the quarterback he had.
He had a pretty good game last week and it
was a suntor bulwich and they fell the wake Forest
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by a single point, ten to nine. So they put
a good football team and in the end of course
things that they've got one two and they didn't play
up to what these other capabilities were last week. So
I think it's going to be a very interesting matchup.
But I think that Indiana don't prevail, and they may
prevail in a big play because I think Kurtseigetti was
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not all that pigs last week.
Speaker 4 (33:15):
In the four weeks, well fish, they better prevail in
a big way because they're thirty six and a half
point favorites. But yeah, the disrespect is real. I you
coming off a playoff season. They won in week one
and fell three spots in the A people they win
by double digits and dropping the poll, and to me
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that's a little bit ridiculous.
Speaker 9 (33:38):
Well, you've got to understand, Chris, that one of the
things that Indiana football has dealt with for many years
is disrespect. And they they got quite a bit of
that last year from the SEC was right in the
back of the college football playoffs. But honestly, I don't
think there's any doubt that this is a good ball club,
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that Indiana's a really good the football team this year
and it's going to get better.
Speaker 10 (34:03):
Last week was disappointing in some.
Speaker 9 (34:04):
Ways, but we have five and two yards of offense
last week. And when you'd have that much offense and
don't score a ton of points, people get disappointed. But
I will tell you this, Kurt Signetti is the best
coach I've ever been around. And not saying something because
I love Bill Mallory to death. As you know, I
thought We've had a couple of other good coaches as
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well for the dude through of these years. But nevertheless,
you got to win, and that's the name of the game.
But when you don't win, especially a program like Indiana,
you're probably going to get disrespect to full event.
Speaker 5 (34:38):
What does it say about the program?
Speaker 2 (34:40):
Though?
Speaker 4 (34:40):
When winning a game against anybody by thirteen points comes
with some disappointment, I mean, I guess that comes with expectation,
and as you said, the disrespect and the disappointment for
years down in Bloomington, and now it's like, Okay, we're
not happy with just winning. We want to win. We
want to go out there, we want to dominate opponents,
non conference opponents especially, And I think that is good
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that Signetti has that kind of mindset, like, hey, that
wasn't good enough, and I do.
Speaker 2 (35:10):
It's exactly right.
Speaker 9 (35:11):
There's always expectations when you have a season like Indiana
have last year, no matter what school it is, but
still when you have that kind of year in Indiana,
it even brings out more the expectations. And there was
a great crowd last week. It wasn't a packed house,
it wasn't sold out, but the ex section of these
three ballgames at the beginning of the season have gotten
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no hype simply because of who Indiana's.
Speaker 10 (35:35):
Playing, And so that's part of the.
Speaker 9 (35:37):
Issue, and the Indiana fan base has to understand that
despite that, they still have to show up for the
ballgame and they've got to have energy. And last week,
like coach Signetti said in the post game show, he said,
it was kind of deja bool based on last year's
for Paulvitch against Florida International, and the fans holed up
at half time and a lot of them did the
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same thing this last ballgame. So it's I think that
Indiana's got to get get over. The fan base has
got to understand how important the energy is that the
supplies in a ball game, whether it's a blowout or otherwise.
If you're going to be a football school, you've got
to be you got to act like a football school.
At so far, Indiana and the Indiana fan base hasn't
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totally understood that at this point.
Speaker 5 (36:21):
That's Don Fisher, Voice of the Hoosiers.
Speaker 1 (36:22):
You do have High U and Kennesaw State coming up
tomorrow eleven am ninety three. I should say eleven am
ninety three to five and one oh seven five the
fan is the time for the pregame show. So what
did you gather in regarding quarterback Fernando Mendoza. I don't
know how much you take away from that performance against Odu,
but what were your thoughts, at least initially seeing him
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under center for the Hoosiers.
Speaker 9 (36:48):
Well, I don't think there's any question John, but he's
got the talent level.
Speaker 10 (36:52):
That indeed, I think the question mark on.
Speaker 9 (36:55):
Him right now is his decision making and not that
he had a bad game in that area is last week,
but he's got he's got a great car receivers. He
didn't spread the ball out like we saw last year.
I think that's something that Curtis Roark was really good
at and I think that Fernanda will get better at it.
I think he's based on what I heard last night
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from put Sidetti and our talk show. I think he's
really made some improvements this week. And maybe he's got golf.
Speaker 10 (37:24):
The jitters a little bit of Indiana.
Speaker 9 (37:26):
For the first time, so and that's always a factor too.
Speaker 7 (37:29):
And the other thing.
Speaker 9 (37:30):
About Curtis Rourke, he kind of spoiled everybody for a
guy that is one of the great decision makers in
a football game that I've ever watched. I think he
was so spectacular in making the right decisions almost every
single play, and unfortunately Rananda didn't do that the first
ball game.
Speaker 10 (37:48):
And people think, well, this guy can't be nu is good.
Speaker 9 (37:52):
Well, I think he's people think he is, so let's
just have to wait and see how.
Speaker 2 (37:55):
It proves out.
Speaker 4 (37:57):
Well, I can tell you this, I've seen some draft
boards and some prognostications that have him as one of
the as a first round quality you know, talent so
he's very well thought of, uh, just coming into the season,
and so now it's all about, like what you said,
settle in.
Speaker 5 (38:16):
It's good that you you get a game.
Speaker 4 (38:17):
Under your belt against the team you were supposed to
beat and you do beat, and another one this week
where you can kind of, you know, settle in even
more and be ready when when the big time games
come around.
Speaker 9 (38:27):
No question, I mean the next two ball games are
just like the first one. They've got to they've got
to make a statement probably in this in these next
two in regard to the score and all of those
kinds of things. But I think the biggest thing in
Churas Signetti's mind is that they've got to eliminate the
mistakes that they had in that first ball game. I
think he was pretty upset with his football team in
the sense of the two big plays and d Binga
(38:52):
was able to pull off one of the very the
very first player of the first series and then the
other one late in the fourth quarter. Uh have those
two missteps by the defense was negative.
Speaker 10 (39:04):
But the other thing about it is they did.
Speaker 9 (39:05):
That they had, they had the numbers, the statistics, everything
was in their favor last week. They just didn't produce
the same ever points that we saw the consistent base
last year. I think that's gonna change.
Speaker 1 (39:17):
So don fish your Voice of the Hoosiers. Are there anymore?
Automotive Group Hotline? All right, Well, you and Susie have
a great time down at the Hall of Fame induction
ceremonies and inside the Memorial Union.
Speaker 5 (39:31):
That's awesome down there by the way too. I do
love it. I do it.
Speaker 9 (39:36):
Is you know one of the guys that's going in tonight,
I'm gonna mention him simply because everybody knows who I'm
talking about. One of the new Hall of Famers is
going to be Cody Zeller, and we're really excited about that.
Speaker 2 (39:48):
Man.
Speaker 1 (39:48):
That means you're going to have all of Davies County
up in there tonight.
Speaker 5 (39:51):
Enjoy that.
Speaker 9 (39:56):
Maybe the whole Hatchet house will show up.
Speaker 5 (40:00):
And now not Dinky's in Montgomery.
Speaker 1 (40:03):
They're not going to anybody there to bid on the
sheep they're going to have for sale later on tonight.
Speaker 5 (40:07):
What were they gonna be doing down there? Holy hell,
I got.
Speaker 10 (40:11):
No idea what they'll be doing down there, But let's keep.
Speaker 1 (40:16):
Oh well, you mentioned, how do you walk up to
Cody later off tonight and go ahead, man, have you
ever been to Dinky's. I guarantee you have absolutely Dinkies
and they'll know exactly.
Speaker 5 (40:26):
What you're talking about.
Speaker 9 (40:28):
And do you know what, John, that you would know?
That tells me everything I've ever known about.
Speaker 8 (40:33):
You is true?
Speaker 5 (40:34):
Yeah it is.
Speaker 1 (40:35):
It's magnified, My hill, my hill, Billy thiss is magnified.
Speaker 5 (40:39):
With that comment right there there, it is.
Speaker 7 (40:44):
All buddy.
Speaker 1 (40:45):
Next next week, we'll do it. I know it's a
Friday night game next week right within the United State.
Speaker 2 (40:50):
Yes it is. Yes, that sucks.
Speaker 5 (40:53):
Oh dang, Friday night. You're not gonna be able to watch.
Speaker 1 (40:58):
And one of the river Rats, Edgewood gets the river
Rats next week too.
Speaker 5 (41:02):
You're not gonna be able to see it.
Speaker 2 (41:04):
I know it.
Speaker 9 (41:04):
She will be two weeks in a row and I'm
gonna be missing in action.
Speaker 5 (41:08):
Man, Hey, Fish, is Susie in the car with you?
She is, well, you didn't know it. Let her get
a word in edgewise as usual, but tell her we
said hi.
Speaker 2 (41:20):
Trust me, she gets.
Speaker 10 (41:21):
She gets all she can handle with John and you
here together.
Speaker 4 (41:28):
Yes, exactly, exactly. Always a good time. Oh man, I know.
Speaker 5 (41:32):
You guys love watching me drinking about ten beers. I
know it.
Speaker 9 (41:39):
All I know, John, is that we have a good time.
And every time we get together.
Speaker 5 (41:43):
We do, Buddy, we do. You got it?
Speaker 1 (41:46):
Well, have fun down there tonight and have a great
call tomorrow and we'll do it again soon next Friday. Don,
thank you all right, see you guys, Don and Susie
Fisher on the way to bloom me to tonight and
on the Anymore Automotive Group hootlyining right now express pro
Tyernato every Friday with the thirteenth Central Indiana Joe Childer's
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operator locations, we'll bring our good friend from Indiana Sports Talk,
Bob Lovell to us and then to you for week
number three of the high school football season.
Speaker 5 (42:19):
Hello, Bob, how are you?
Speaker 8 (42:20):
I'm great, John, how are you?
Speaker 5 (42:22):
Bob? Where do we begin on this week number three?
Speaker 1 (42:25):
Because it always seems like at this point in time ago,
I can't believe how fast this is gone.
Speaker 8 (42:32):
We'll make it even faster.
Speaker 11 (42:33):
At the end of the nights to night it'll be
one thirty the regular season complete.
Speaker 8 (42:37):
So I don't know it just this is how it goes.
Speaker 5 (42:42):
Yeah, it is.
Speaker 1 (42:43):
What what's peaking our interest? To start with? You've got.
I will say this, I think, especially in six A,
we can start you have some incredibly talented teams across
the board. I know we always say that, but you can,
especially if you say that. I think at the start
of this season you see a lot of these teams
that have been.
Speaker 5 (43:02):
Really good, very early across the board.
Speaker 11 (43:06):
It's been really fun to watch and it's a really
balanced class.
Speaker 8 (43:10):
I think, quite frankly, they all are.
Speaker 11 (43:12):
But you start out tonight Brownsburg hosting Franklin Central. Franklin
Central brownser is number one, Franklin Central number twelve. Brownsburg
is legit, a lot of young guys back from last
year's championship. One of your favorite teams, Center Drove ranked
number two. They're they're hosting Marion. I think one of
the best games of the night is Hamilton Southeastern.
Speaker 12 (43:35):
Hosting Avon HSSE is is you know five number five
Avon number six, great matchup one that Mike Slide under
the radar.
Speaker 8 (43:46):
But Lawrence North taking on East Central East Central one
to four a year ago. They're really really good. So
I think up and down.
Speaker 11 (43:55):
Fishers at Nobles Zo I think is a great game.
Ben Davis at five Designs though Westfield is another great
game in six A. So literally, I think every one
of these matchups has some UH has some potential to
be tremendously played games, well contested games.
Speaker 1 (44:13):
Yeah, I agree with you right there, you get you
mentioned Browsburg Franklin Central UH both started out at two
and zero. I I feel for our friends up in
Grant County because I think Marion, what Marion is four
A at one and one of the season venturing down
to UH near me at Sina Grove, I'm assuming that
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probably won't end well for them coming up later on
the Savening.
Speaker 5 (44:39):
That's gonna be a tough one.
Speaker 8 (44:40):
Yeah, it has the potential to be a very tough one,
to be honest, because I mean it's a.
Speaker 11 (44:47):
It's it's just one of those things where listen, you
and Marion is cycling through kids.
Speaker 8 (44:57):
They have not started out as well as it.
Speaker 11 (45:00):
Expected, a lost last week, and so but you're you're
playing an extremely good team in Center Grove.
Speaker 1 (45:06):
With that question, that's Bob lovel Indiana Sports Talk Week three,
high School Football that is later on tonight. I don't
think we have talked at all about this team and
in the past, Bob, it's been about Columbus East in
Bartholomew County, right, but it has the past couple of
seasons now and especially this one been about the Bulldogs
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of Columbus North. Starting out at two and zero, they
face zero and two Southport, which should not be an
issue for them. That is kind of an under radar,
really good football team and six A to start this season.
Speaker 11 (45:41):
There's no question, John, and they've just gotten a little
bit better, a little bit better, had a really nice
run last year. A bunch of guys back play a
really good schedule. The trivia question for the day, John,
is that I did my student teaching at Columbus High School,
which Dan split into Columbus North. That it was Columbus
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High School when back in nineteen seventy three when I
did my student teaching, and so I always have a
fond spot in my heart for Columbus North.
Speaker 5 (46:10):
Let me tell you this.
Speaker 1 (46:11):
There is a famous former Bulldog that when I was
at Indiana State Now, I used to whip his ass
in the pickup games like oh, me and my Green
County guys would take him a task. But Kevin Johnson,
if you remember the name Kevin Johnson, actually he is
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an incredibly good. Dude was incredibly talented basketball back in
the day coming out of Columbus North, and he was
he was a part of that particular team was with
Tates Locke back at Indiana State. But Kevin Johnson of
Columbus North High School back in the day, who I
think still listens to the show and probably is not
a big fan of what I just said.
Speaker 11 (46:57):
Well, everybody's a fan of yours, John You know that.
Speaker 1 (47:01):
Oh man, there's no doubt it's up by level with us.
Speaker 5 (47:05):
You're playing Field Quakers two and a night.
Speaker 1 (47:08):
Yeah, New Pal obviously, what's up, buddy, Good to see you,
Pale Matt New Pal a top five A at two
and oh.
Speaker 5 (47:15):
As well, they listen.
Speaker 1 (47:16):
There's a lot of really good teams, but New Pal
looks certainly at the beginning to be the class of
this group so far.
Speaker 8 (47:23):
I would agree with you.
Speaker 11 (47:26):
They're very, very good obviously, you know, won a championship
a year ago, came back.
Speaker 8 (47:31):
It's just amazing what Cook Ralph does year in and
year round. They're one of the most.
Speaker 11 (47:38):
Prolific and consistent teams in the entire state.
Speaker 8 (47:42):
And this team is no different. You know, you know,
it's just.
Speaker 11 (47:44):
One of those very crowded classes where they are though,
there's a lot of really good football teams. But Mike
Quakers are playing Morgarsville annual battle, big matchup, big rivalry game.
I've played in a couple of those games. I know
how that fields uh Quakes. You're off to a good
start to rank number seven. Morezill's undefeated, So that's that
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in Moorezill.
Speaker 8 (48:07):
So a lot going on in that game.
Speaker 1 (48:11):
Bob Lovell got you covered with all of it later
on tonight on Indiana Sports Talk. I wanted to give
some love because I don't think we've talked about Franklin,
your hometown team to a two and oh start. I'm
going to bring that up because they're at Perim Meridian
and the Falcons. But my neighbor from Paradise, Dave Watson,
I know Jeff Watson is a part of the officiating
crew at Perim Meridian for that one and a very
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impressive start for Franklin through the first two weeks of
the season.
Speaker 8 (48:37):
Yeah, they have.
Speaker 11 (48:37):
They started well there. Chris call I think is underrated coach.
He's tremendous. His kids have played well at a big
win obviously last week a bunch of guys back from
a year ago. They kind of felt like this would
be a scene that could play well, and so you
get a big matchup tonight, no question, obviously. I think
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one of the games, John, we need to pay attention
to Shitar hosting Ron Colley.
Speaker 8 (49:05):
What a game.
Speaker 11 (49:06):
It doesn't matter where it's played, it doesn't matter what sport.
Speaker 8 (49:09):
That's a great matchup.
Speaker 5 (49:12):
I had no doubt about that.
Speaker 1 (49:13):
Bob Lovell is with us my friend John Martin on
the text line three one seven seventy want you to
talk up Beast Grove. The Grover I'm out off to
a fantastic start.
Speaker 11 (49:26):
It is, and it's not something they've done in a while,
but they are off to a great start. The thing
about him is they haven't shied away from playing a
really good schedule.
Speaker 8 (49:36):
Uh. They They've got guys.
Speaker 11 (49:38):
You know, their ranked thirteenth in the four A, which
I think is a tremendous accomplishment for them.
Speaker 8 (49:44):
They play the Sena tonight at home. I think you
know they can.
Speaker 11 (49:48):
They might find themselves going to three and zero with this,
and it'd be a fantastic way to begin the season.
Speaker 8 (49:54):
And if a program is getting better and better.
Speaker 1 (49:57):
All right, Johnson County Trafalgar the locate Indian Creek off
to a two and zero starting the season getting Covenant Christian.
Speaker 5 (50:05):
Bob later on tonight, they're really good.
Speaker 11 (50:08):
Indian Creek's really good. I mean they are solid, solid
football team. Covenant Christian similarly good. But the Creek is
playing awfully, awfully well right now, John and wouldn't surprise.
Speaker 8 (50:20):
Me if they could pick up another one tonight.
Speaker 1 (50:24):
So, Bob Lovell not only high school of the night,
but certainly collegiately tomorrow, are you and Kennesaw State eleven am?
Your coverage begins right here. That is a noonkick from
Bloomington Southern Illinois, and hey, listen whatever. For the boiler Makers,
it was so exciting for them to be able to
see that witness that. I know it was at the
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expense of our good friends up in Muncie, but for
those in West Lafayette, that was a feel good Saturday
to open things up last week, wasn't a Bob?
Speaker 9 (50:52):
Yeah?
Speaker 11 (50:52):
And I think they continue tomorrow. I mean, I think
you get coach otom knows how to win, how to
run a program, has come in rejuvenated a p new
team that clearly needed it, and so I think it's
gonna be It'll be a hard They didn't get a
lot of love from the schedule makers at the Big Ten,
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but I think this is a solid football team.
Speaker 8 (51:15):
It's going to surprise people.
Speaker 1 (51:17):
My Blevel's got you covered on Indiana Sports Talk tonight
tomorrow night as well. He is legendary on that show
throughout the state of Indiana.
Speaker 5 (51:28):
And where are you going for dinner before you hit
the show tonight?
Speaker 8 (51:32):
Brother?
Speaker 11 (51:32):
Friday night routine here is to uh call the American
leaguion and order order dinner and I'll swing out there
and pick it up and come home and my wife
and all enjoy a nice dinner at home.
Speaker 5 (51:45):
Oh man, you've got it. I know you are.
Speaker 2 (51:48):
I am.
Speaker 5 (51:50):
You have every base cover.
Speaker 2 (51:51):
Buddy.
Speaker 1 (51:54):
Hey, it's a pleasure to have you on every Friday,
and have a great show tonight tomorrow.
Speaker 5 (51:59):
We'll do it again next week.
Speaker 8 (52:00):
Thanks to the kind words too. Thanks have a great weekend.
Speaker 1 (52:04):
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The Andy Moore on AMNI group Pileline, a part of
the Culture Radio Network. He is the former Colts tied end.
Charles Arbuckle joins us. So give me your thoughts at
the start here on this particular matchup. Let's go offense
versus defense. What we're going to see or expect to
see what Daniel Jones, Charles, and what Miami has to offer,
especially up front defensively, what are your thoughts going into
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the weekend of this week one matchup?
Speaker 2 (00:26):
Well, I've said.
Speaker 3 (00:27):
Often that the Colts have to play some good offense,
you know, that's the thing. They can rely on their
defense and it'll get you close, but they're going to
need to score points. And I think the biggest thing
jamb is getting off to a great start. It looks
like the reason why they have Daniel Jones is he
can protect the football from you know, maybe a few
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years ago, and he's even been good even the years
they weren't great. He's protected the ball. But making sure
you're getting into those weapons. Man, they got so many
weapons at the cold time that can make plays. And
then we we didn't see much of Jonathan Taylor. You
know j T, but you're going to see him now,
and I think that's a real key bonus point for
Daniel Jones. Having a strong running game takes you away
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from having to make plays all by yourself.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
Now with Miami, they're going to provide some challenges.
Speaker 3 (01:15):
I mean, this Miami team is going to be a tough,
tough out, but I do think since you haven't won
a game since opening game since twenty thirteen, it has
to be some of those explosives we saw. You have
to have some opportunities to turn the ball over like
we saw late in the preseason, and if the Colts
are going to do that, that gives them a chance
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to beat anybody in particularly the Dolphins.
Speaker 4 (01:39):
At Charles Chris Hagen, Fox fifty nine, it's been a
long long time since you used to come out and
hang out with me in the studio. Always good to
catch up with you, man, I'm hanging in. We talk about, oh,
it's a long season, one game at a time, it's
just one game. But when when you reference that long
draft of season opening wins, how important is it to
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go out there and finally start the season on a
positive note And how can opening weekends set the tone
for what's going to come the rest of the season.
Speaker 3 (02:09):
Well, you know, I mean I've been on teams guys
where we started out really slow. I can remember ninety two,
but we had to get hot and we missed the
playoffs by year. And then that ninety five season it
was a similar thing. We didn't start slow, but we
just didn't get going. The more you can win early
and keep that momentum because you never know what injury
is going to happen and all those other things, and
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if you've been a team that's kind of been playing
from behind, you, you know, for a while, it becomes
something that you start to expect instead of expecting to win.
And I think that's the part for me that I
want to see that mentality change with the folks. I
think that's the hardest part to get a team to understand, like, no,
this isn't normal. You shouldn't expect to start oh and
two or oh on one or oh on three. Your
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your expectation has to become if you're going to be
a playoff team, is that every time we come out
like the Eagles last night, there's a good example. You know,
Dallas showed something they you know, the Eagles were without
you know one of their key guys for bonehead to
I mean, one of the stupidest things you can do
is to split on somebody. We're fighting there, Dack held
as composers, that wouldn't have been me. But the thing is,
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look at the Eagles. They get started one to Zho.
It wasn't a pretty win.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
Right, but they got it done.
Speaker 3 (03:21):
That's how you have to start having that mentality if
you're a Colt's team in order to get into a
situation where you say, we go out and we expect
to win and however it happens, we have to make
it happen. And I don't think they've had that been
able to do that over the last few years.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
And let's see if that's the mentality that can start with.
Speaker 1 (03:39):
On Sunday, Charles Arbuckle, the former coach side end at
the Colts Radio Networks, on the Andy Mornet at Motive
Group hootline. This is not an original thought, but it
just seems like this would be the type of game,
the type of start where you want positive results. Here
is you lean heavily on Jonathan Taylor. Would you expect
that to be since the game plan offensively to start
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for the Colts.
Speaker 3 (04:04):
I would think you see a heavy doser a JT. Yeah,
Jonathan Taylor has to be your bread and butter, right,
I mean that's why, that's.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
Why he is who he is.
Speaker 3 (04:11):
That's why you think of him as a guy that's
over what twelve thirteen, fourteen hundred yards every year because
what it does is it sets up everything else.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
And now that you have a weapon.
Speaker 3 (04:22):
That I think is going to be valuable with the
tight end play, especially Tyler Warn, We're gonna see Tyler War.
Speaker 2 (04:26):
I'm just telling everybody.
Speaker 3 (04:28):
That can hear me in your airway, he's gonna catch
seventy he stays healthy, it may be more because that's.
Speaker 2 (04:34):
The way this guy can be utilized.
Speaker 3 (04:35):
And that creates things on the outside that you you know,
even the outside weapons that they the Colts have had
over the last few years now can become better. Peers
can be better. You know, all those guys in me
that we talked about over the years that have been
drafted by there. Ad Mitchell really has to step up
in my mind, and I think he will because Reggie
has made him his pet project, and I think he's
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done a really nice job of getting in his head
during the preseason. I want to see it now carry
over to the regular season. You're gonna need those kind
of guys and make plays. And that's gonna allow Daniel
Jones to do what. I don't need him to be
Alan Iverson shooting the rock all the time. I need
him just distributing the ball where it needs to go
because that defense is gonna take balls away. They're gonna
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be like those Colts teams where if they can stay healthy,
where Tony Jundi was always talking about, if we can
get thirty five to forty turnovers, Coach Lewis is gonna
dial that up too, And I think that's what you're
gonna see with this team. And they're gonna have to
start fast, and that's not gonna be easy against Tua
because he's one of the best guys in the league.
But I think the thing with Tua, like any other
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quarterback in the league, if you can get pressure on him,
which the Colts have said they can do now, that's
gonna make a difference.
Speaker 2 (05:45):
He's not comfortable in that pocket. He gets hit a
few times. We know his concussion history.
Speaker 3 (05:49):
I'm not saying you want to do that, but we've
seen him get hurt and they barely fell down.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
So you got to get some pressure on him.
Speaker 3 (05:56):
You got to make him uncomfortable, get him off platform,
and that's gonna be a key, I think to the
cults on Sunday as well, a lot.
Speaker 5 (06:03):
Of good points from Charles there.
Speaker 4 (06:04):
But of course jamb you noticed he started with the
tight end position he did.
Speaker 5 (06:08):
What a shock. Hey, Charles, Hey, look, Matt you got you.
Speaker 6 (06:11):
Hey.
Speaker 3 (06:11):
When I go to these coaches business in college. Now
I'm talking to Mike Schouler today, I'll say, hey, man,
you got to get your coaches, you got to get
your tight ends fall Tomorrow, I'm talking to the South
Carolina State.
Speaker 2 (06:21):
I don't care who would coach I'm talking to. I
want five or six every game. That's what they should get.
Speaker 4 (06:27):
And you're right, because if you have a tight end
that can make plays, it makes everybody around you more dangerous.
It makes them worried about more on defense. But on
to that point, I think you're better off if you
have five or six maybe not top tier weapons, but
if you have five or six guys that can do
something with the ball, that might be better than just
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having one marquee. You know, stud wide receiver because they
you have to prepare for more and you never know
what direction the Colts and Change Styken can come from.
And that's I see great flashes from all the positions,
wide receiver and tight end. Obviously, I think that can
be more dangerous than having just one marquee guy.
Speaker 3 (07:10):
Oh, I agree with you one hundred percent, because what
it does is then the middle of the field for
the Colts hasn't been a place where a lot of
guys want a roam. I mean, they have guys that
can do it right, but you can't ask a slot
guy to be the guy on third and five to
always go pick.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
That up right.
Speaker 3 (07:27):
You need a big, physical receiver and a tight end.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
So from my money, I.
Speaker 3 (07:34):
Can put you know, big Tyler Warren in the slot,
get him moving around, doing different things with him, because
I think that's what Shane wants to do. I think
they want to do that with his skill set. But
it doesn't stop you.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
From having a guy like Josh Downs if he can.
Speaker 3 (07:48):
I know he was a little bit nicked up in
the preseason, but he gives heat. It opens it up
for him, It opens it up for you know, Pittman.
It gets it I'm just telling you, when the field,
when you have to worried about the guy that's in
between those fashions in them, between those numbers and a
quarterback that can get it to him, that puts you
on notice. And I think we haven't even seen them
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kind of design things that they want to do and
kind of you know, pro guys open create plays for
different people. I think we'll see more of that now
because we're getting into the season. And that's why I
think Tyler Warren is a key component of this offense
is year.
Speaker 1 (08:24):
Farmer Coast tight end. Charles Arbuckle also a part of
the Cult Radio Network. He's joining us on the Andy
Moore Automative group Pileline Buddy, It's always a pleasure.
Speaker 5 (08:33):
We'll check in next week and see how this game.
Speaker 1 (08:35):
Goes on Sunday and then preview of the Broncos Week
two matchup at Lucas Royl Stadium as well.
Speaker 5 (08:40):
Charles, thank you, hey, guys.
Speaker 2 (08:43):
I'm a good one man, always just talking to you.
Speaker 1 (08:47):
Fourth and Joel on Fox fifty nine can be seen
along with Chris Hagen. What can be seen here is
we thought Joey Erickson of the Star was going to
join us live at Taylor's Pub and Nora, however, he
is is on the Andy Moore Automotive Group hootline.
Speaker 5 (09:02):
So Joel, A, what gives here?
Speaker 6 (09:05):
I just I just couldn't make it work.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
I h have to. Uh.
Speaker 6 (09:11):
I promised that one of my sons that he he
gets to work on his pitching uh here this afternoon.
So shortly after I get up with you, I got
to get my catchers met out and uh.
Speaker 4 (09:21):
Wow, Joel Joel j mv off Air was like, let's
give him a bunch of blank for not being here,
and I'm like, I'm still going to Joel plays. Joel
plays the ultimate trump card. Excuse me for being a
good father, John. So hey, hey, Joel, this is this
is the difference here.
Speaker 1 (09:39):
Do you squat normally when you're the catcher or do
you sit on a five gallon bucket?
Speaker 5 (09:46):
What do you do?
Speaker 2 (09:46):
I no, I I know.
Speaker 7 (09:47):
I still I still get in the squat, I still
get there.
Speaker 5 (09:50):
Go buddy.
Speaker 1 (09:51):
All right, that makes up a little bit for your
no show. But I mean Andrew Catalan of CBS did
the same thing. I know I'm a bad influence, but
it seems like you guys are inventing reasons as to
not to show up with me because you may be
a little bit scared about your image.
Speaker 5 (10:07):
But don't be scared. Don't be scared, well.
Speaker 7 (10:10):
I said, I will.
Speaker 6 (10:12):
I will leave open the possibility if.
Speaker 7 (10:13):
You if you get back up over into.
Speaker 6 (10:15):
My neck of the woods, the next time you're up
over in my neck of the woods, we'll look at
it again and see if I can make it work
that time.
Speaker 5 (10:22):
All right, Well, I may I am a bad influence.
Speaker 1 (10:26):
I will note that, but it's all in the form
of having a good time. That's that's why, Joe, I will.
And when you're around me, you're going to have a
damn good time. There's no doubt about that every time
right there? Now, how good of a time do you
expect the Colts fans to have if at all? Coming
up on Sunday, we were kind of going over you know,
all the wrinkles in that game and reason ultimately begin.
(10:47):
It does get down to execution with this team, and
how good of a team you are.
Speaker 5 (10:50):
What's your thoughts on matchup with.
Speaker 1 (10:52):
Two teams that really are speaking of five gallon buckets
in a similar five gallon bucket, I think to start
this season.
Speaker 6 (11:00):
Yeah, I think the Dolphins are. The more I've looked
at them this week, this is a fascinating opening opponent
to me because I can, depending on how I go,
I can kind of talk myself into into the Dolphins
that look looks scarier than people think, or or I
can also talk myself into well that they've got these weaknesses.
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So you know, the real quick version is like they
still have they have a healthy to at Tako Baila,
and then they have you know, those two burners on
the outside and Wadle and Hill, and we've seen in
the past where that offense has looked really good early.
Speaker 7 (11:35):
In the season.
Speaker 6 (11:36):
But then if you go and look at their offensive
line player by player, you think, well, the Colts should
have a huge advantage there because they're they're pretty inexperienced
and they've kind of remade that offensive line and I
don't really know what to expect from it. Same same
thing on the defense. They have some names as pass
rushers on the egg. They've got about four guys on
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the edge. I think Zach Siler inside is probably maybe
the most underrated defensive player in football. But then if
you get back to the secondary, there's a ton of
questions in that secondary.
Speaker 7 (12:09):
So I feel like the Dolphins are.
Speaker 6 (12:11):
An interesting They're an interesting opening opponent because you can
kind of you can kind of see it both ways,
with both sides of the ball.
Speaker 4 (12:22):
Joel, I know every year we've had to talk about
this and you know, for a decade in the locker room,
and players say it's a different team, it's a different year.
But they're aware that they haven't won an opener since
twenty thirteen, and it's always, you know, teams that win
opening week go on about, you know, sixty eight percent
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of the time to make the playoffs. So it's a
big deal even though it's a long season. They're well
aware of that. And I just think psychologically, given what
ELL's gone on with the franchise, I think it's just
this game is really important to go out there and win.
And as we've been talking about him, as Las Vegas
has been talking about, this is really a coin flip game.
So I just really think this is a huge tone
center more so than other seasons.
Speaker 6 (13:02):
What about you, I I think the other thing is
this opener is there's there's added weight to it. You know,
this they're going to put h Jim Ursay in the.
Speaker 7 (13:15):
Ring of Honor.
Speaker 6 (13:16):
And when we've asked players and coaches about that, you know,
a lot of times you ask players and coaches about
does this add extra meaning to the game, They're like, no,
they're all the same, and we all know that's not
necessarily true, but you know, we all kind of have
to go along with it. Well, this this week they've said, no,
this this does add a little bit of something you
you want, they want to win on the day that
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Jim Mersey goes into the Ring of Honor. There's there's
an emotional attachment there for the the organization as a whole,
for for Shane Stichen all all that stuff. That the
stuff with this opener streak is truly like it. It
makes no sense really when you look at who is
favored in these games who wasn't favored. Like the twenty
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twenty game where the Colts lose in Jacksonville. Now that
was a double curse because you have the opener Andy
in Jacksonville.
Speaker 7 (14:08):
But that was the only.
Speaker 6 (14:09):
Game that Jacksonville team won, and that's that twenty twenty
team is probably the best Colts team of the last
decade and they still lost the opener. So there have
been some real weird ones in this streak in terms
of how did even looking back after you see the
rest of the season, you go, how did they lose
that game?
Speaker 4 (14:29):
You think they would just accidentally win one of those
games in that amount of time. As weird as the
league is and the different you know, the different talent.
I mean, let's remember Andrew Lux started a lot of
those games, and there were some there was some good team.
There was an AFC championship game appearing to in twenty
fourteen team that couldn't win the opener.
Speaker 5 (14:46):
So it is strange. But you know, that's what makes.
Speaker 4 (14:48):
Sports so great is you you can't predict some of
these things, and a lot of things don't make sense.
But I agree with you in that this is just
a really intriguing matchup when you when you think about
a coin toss game and the money's coming in, most
of the money is coming in on the Dolphins, So
I guess nationwide they don't have much faith in the Colts.
But it comes down to what I think, which is
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very cliche in football, is going to come down to
quarterback play. You mentioned a healthy two. When he's good,
he's really good. What what if things go right for
the Colts. What is Daniel Jones doing well on Sunday?
Speaker 7 (15:23):
Well, I think number one.
Speaker 6 (15:25):
If things go right for the Colts, the offensive line
is giving Daniel Jones loss of tigh. Jones is not
going to hold the ball as long as Anthony Richardson did.
Speaker 7 (15:35):
We have the next gen stats to know that he's been.
Speaker 6 (15:39):
He's been borderline top ten. I think he was eleventh
last year. This is Daniel Jones, and I think he
was thirteenth or something like that the year before. In
terms of getting the ball out of his hand after
the snap, Richardson was much closer.
Speaker 7 (15:54):
I think he was.
Speaker 6 (15:54):
I think Richardson was sixth slowest in the league. And
there are guys like Jalen Hurts tends to be higher
on that lift or you know, in terms of he
takes a longer time throw the ball. So there's no
there's not necessarily a correlation, but it definitely helps.
Speaker 7 (16:09):
So Jones is gonna help there.
Speaker 6 (16:10):
But they've got to keep keep I think if you
keep the Dolphins out of the backfield regularly, you start
looking at this Dolphins secondary, particularly outside corners, and you think,
you know what Daniel Jones is gonna have a chance
to make some plays here as long as he has time.
Speaker 1 (16:26):
It's Joey ericson to the star. First in Joel with
Chris Hagen Fox fifty done as well. He's on the
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with your chance to win Dolphins Colts tickets the Nightmare
by the way, too, You remember Joel the last receiver,
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the leading receiver the last time the Colts won in
weight number one?
Speaker 7 (16:52):
Oh?
Speaker 8 (16:53):
No, was.
Speaker 5 (16:55):
It Reggie Wayne?
Speaker 1 (16:57):
Yeah, Reggie Wayne was the last leading receiver the last
time was was the leading receiver.
Speaker 5 (17:03):
Last time I'll go you one better?
Speaker 4 (17:06):
Luck was the quarterback the last time they won a
season opener they played the Oakland Raiders.
Speaker 5 (17:11):
Who was the raiders starting quarterback? Rrell Pryor? You look
that up? Didn't you know that? Joel? Joel? That is
my big uh John Denny Green? Denny Green.
Speaker 2 (17:23):
No, he's not even with us any exactly.
Speaker 7 (17:25):
Holy hell.
Speaker 6 (17:26):
The last time the Colts won an opener, I was
still covering the University of I was still covering Auburn University.
Speaker 5 (17:36):
Was Gus Malson the head coach.
Speaker 7 (17:39):
Guts malls On was the head coach.
Speaker 6 (17:41):
Yep, ye, man, I have covered, I have covered, I've covered.
This is my eighth Colt season, and I covered three
Saint seasons before that. And to go back to the
last time they won an opener, I was still in Auburn.
Speaker 4 (17:57):
Was James Boyd a freshman in high school the last
time the Colts one season.
Speaker 6 (18:01):
I'm sure, I'm sure wherever James Boyd was at that
point would would make all of us feel terrible. I
don't know where he was.
Speaker 7 (18:13):
There's no way they don't feel terrible. Hey.
Speaker 1 (18:16):
By the way, James played pickup hooop with us a
week before last and was tried to talk junk out there.
I hope yeah, no, not no, because I whip his ass,
but no, it no, he was trying to talk. It
was really funny though, he was. He was, hey, Joel,
he was extremely wound up, and I loved it. Actually,
everybody he played with actually loved it too, so it
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was it was really funny.
Speaker 6 (18:40):
Yeah, he said, he said, he's been getting out there
with you.
Speaker 1 (18:44):
No, yeah he is, and he actually you can count
on to show up. He's a good player, he runs
the floor, we'll get a good workout in. So man,
I do appreciate him going out with us.
Speaker 6 (18:54):
I finally, I finally got back on the pickup.
Speaker 7 (18:57):
Court this morning.
Speaker 6 (18:59):
I had given myself some time off because I was
a little concerned about the the old Achilles in the summer,
and I was like, you know, let's not let's not mess.
Speaker 5 (19:10):
Around with that, because you saw Halliburton, is why.
Speaker 1 (19:13):
And we all, I think we all grabbed our calf
and we saw Halliburton back in June in Game seven,
every every one of us.
Speaker 5 (19:19):
Yes, yeah, I had I had some.
Speaker 6 (19:21):
I had some you know, tightness soreness back there after
the after the Church softball season, thought let's let's not
push this and end up end up doing some first
and joels on crutches in the in the fall.
Speaker 5 (19:33):
Yeah, I know.
Speaker 1 (19:34):
I played three days in a row this week, and
I took the last two days off because I was
a little tight in that category too.
Speaker 5 (19:41):
And it all, it all.
Speaker 1 (19:43):
Goes back there, like Halliburton has laid the groundwork for
me to think a little bit more about that, because
my ass is done if I ever do that.
Speaker 5 (19:50):
And he's gonna come back and be stronger than ever.
Speaker 1 (19:52):
But I'm absolutely done and that that's a nightmare.
Speaker 5 (19:56):
It really is.
Speaker 1 (19:56):
But it shows us a little bit of the way
us UH picked gamers out there, for sure, Joel, I
was gonna mention this, this is a nightmare scenario to me.
Speaker 5 (20:06):
All the work that they did and.
Speaker 1 (20:08):
The concentration of the secondary, and it's going to be
tested beyond belief.
Speaker 5 (20:12):
As you mentioned a little bit earlier in Week number.
Speaker 1 (20:15):
One, I still want to see that come through and
legitimize that, if not for the entirety of the season,
at least in week number one. And I don't think
you could have a better matchup to see exactly what
you did in the off season and what is moving
forward defensively in that secondary. Then what you're going to
witness offensively and defensively between the Dolphins and the Colts
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coming up on Sunday really good test.
Speaker 6 (20:41):
Yeah, I'm really interested in seeing how Xavi and Howard plays.
I think you know what we saw of Tarvari's ward,
I think he kind of I'm expecting him to play
pretty well this season. I liked what everyone saw from
Cam buying him on a training camp. We know Xavion
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Howard hasn't played since games since I think New Year's
even twenty twenty three, and putting him out there at
thirty two years old.
Speaker 7 (21:10):
It sounded to me like they planned on playing.
Speaker 6 (21:12):
Him at least a significant amount. That's interesting, especially against
these two guys and.
Speaker 7 (21:18):
How just the long speed that they have.
Speaker 6 (21:21):
When it was justin Wally going up, you know, in
the starting lineup before he got hurt in the joint
practice against Baltimore, Wally was a guy who gives you
four four speed.
Speaker 7 (21:33):
At that corner.
Speaker 6 (21:34):
I thought that was one of the interesting things about him,
was that maybe the Colts were going to prioritize speed
a little bit more at corner. But you know how
in Howard, it's pretty clear at lou An Arumo is
his prioritizing experience, which is one of the things that
he was kind of known for and sometimes criticized for
in Cincinnati. It's it's really he Xavion Howard might be
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the most interesting player in this game if outside of
outside of you know, everybody wondering what happens with Daniel Jones.
I think how Xavi and Howard plays against this team
specifically that can test you with all that speed on
the outside. That's that's maybe the most interesting thing about
this game is is you know, can this guy still
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play like what we we didn't see him last year?
What what's he look like?
Speaker 5 (22:22):
Joey?
Speaker 4 (22:23):
You mentioned given Jones time if he does have some time.
How do you feel about the Colts skill position? Guys
at wide receiver, tied end, obviously at running back. I mean,
there are some some pieces in place where this offense,
you know, when healthy and when when executing, they can
put up some numbers, can't they?
Speaker 6 (22:43):
Yeah, I think, and I think in so much of
it dependent on the quarterback.
Speaker 7 (22:47):
But I really think it's a good group.
Speaker 6 (22:50):
I think it's a good Tyler Warren adds the missing keys,
and I'm really interested to see, you know, what the
Colts do with him when they have a chain.
Speaker 7 (23:00):
It's the game planet because he's.
Speaker 6 (23:01):
Got the he's got the run after the catch. It's
it's something that not a lot of tight ends have,
even fewer have it the way he has it, where
he's a lot of tight ends are good after the
catch in space when there's you know, they're they're eight
to ten yards downfield and they've got room between them
and a linebacker. Tyler Warren is used to running the
line of scrimmage as a wildcat quarterback. That means that
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those tight end screens that fans have hated for for years,
going back to multiple coaching staff, that's a different kind
of player that's going to be getting.
Speaker 7 (23:32):
Those tight end screens this year.
Speaker 6 (23:34):
This is more of a guy with a running backs
instincts and abilities. Same thing with with some of those
other short routes over the over the.
Speaker 7 (23:43):
Middle is this. This is a guy who's who's.
Speaker 6 (23:46):
A different kind of runner after the catch, and I
think he really brings it all together. He gives them
something they didn't have at that position and it probably
makes the rest.
Speaker 7 (23:54):
Of them better. They they're less of they we don't.
Speaker 6 (23:57):
We all know they don't have the number one, the
Jamar Chase type, but they have a lot of guys
who do something really really well and that's that's probably
if Daniel Don't can get in the football, I think
that they can spread it around in a lot of
ways that end up helping the offense.
Speaker 4 (24:16):
It's going to be exciting to see because in years
past we've seen Steike and had things schemed up properly,
but the execution was not there. So if you have
people that are executing, and we know what kind of
football mind he is, if you get those two on
the same page, the scheming, the play calling and the execution,
I think Colts fans will be really pleased with the results.
Speaker 7 (24:37):
Yeah, that's that.
Speaker 6 (24:38):
I think is the bet that Shane Stiken specifically is
making more than any other is just they've had a
lot of miss opportunities over the last couple of years
with him. He's you think about the fact that the
Colts are.
Speaker 7 (24:51):
Seventeen and seventeen.
Speaker 6 (24:53):
With you know, Gardner Minshew, Anthony Richardson and Joe Flacco
at quarterback and some really bad stretches of quarterback play.
Speaker 7 (25:01):
In that time.
Speaker 6 (25:03):
It's not good. It's obviously not good enough. I think
Colts fans are obviously justified and wanting to see more.
But you want you find yourself thinking, you know, they
did get themselves to eleventh in the league and offense
when Minshew started most of the season in twenty twenty
three and they were able to, you know, somewhat stay
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in the midx of the playoffs with all the mets
that were going on at quarterback last year, and so
that makes you wonder. You know, change second does seem
to be pretty good at finding the weaknesses in a defense.
If Daniel Jones can take what he knows of the offense,
because it sounds like he's a guy who really has
mastered the offense, if he can take that and put
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in the practice on the field, you know, can can
this be a better offense? And I think really anybody
around the NFL is.
Speaker 1 (25:52):
Expecting joelay Erickson with us in closing, Buddy, what's your
call on the season? I said to nine. Mike Chappell
agreed with me yesterday.
Speaker 5 (26:02):
What say you?
Speaker 7 (26:04):
I think I had seven wins?
Speaker 6 (26:05):
I think I went with seven wins. It is as
much as you can see a best case scenario for
Daniel Jones. I just I might just be worn down
by high hopes for quarterbacks for the last four years
that haven't turned out.
Speaker 5 (26:24):
Well, there's one of those seven wins on Sunday.
Speaker 6 (26:26):
Joel, Yeah, because at some point the streak hast end right.
I know that's like you're not supposed to bet, You're
not supposed.
Speaker 7 (26:33):
To bet against the streak, But I think so.
Speaker 6 (26:35):
My boss, our sports editor, not Newell, ran the ran
the numbers on it I think he said it's something
like point zero six percent chance of the Colts losing
all of these openers when you take into account who
was favored by how much and all that stuff.
Speaker 7 (26:50):
Wow, it's got at some point.
Speaker 1 (26:55):
Yeah, and no better time than Sunday, no doubt about that.
Joey eeriction of the Star. What time I'm is first
in Joe along with you? Well, yes, you're not saying
it right. You have to see first s.
Speaker 5 (27:04):
Then Joel, Well.
Speaker 4 (27:06):
Eleven thirty Sunday morning on CBS four kickoff to follow
it one. So set it on CBS four eleven thirty
and just don't change it till about five.
Speaker 5 (27:14):
You know what we honestly should do, Joel.
Speaker 1 (27:16):
We should set you up at this time every Friday
with Hagen.
Speaker 5 (27:19):
And like do that and promote that bad boy.
Speaker 7 (27:21):
What do you think.
Speaker 8 (27:24):
I mean?
Speaker 4 (27:25):
All right, and we know what now, I gotta I
gotta have more questions for Sunday. I barely had enough
for today. Come on, man, I'm gonna repeat y'all. Just
remember everything he said. We'll do it again on Sunday.
Speaker 7 (27:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (27:36):
I'm going to take some of this stuff and just
send it to send it to our friend Phil for three.
Speaker 1 (27:40):
Key for the keys, Joel, appreciate you man, have a
great weekend. Do some strong catching for the kid. Okay,
you bet, you bet.
Speaker 6 (27:48):
Like I said, at some point, when you get back
out my way, I will come.
Speaker 7 (27:51):
I will come in person this year.
Speaker 1 (27:54):
And at some point you'll probably regret that decision, but
we'll talk about that later.
Speaker 5 (28:01):
Thanks, buddy.
Speaker 1 (28:04):
Let's get right to it on the Andy Moore on
a Motive Group hotline, because I'm assuming we are making
a bee line right now down to Ellisville, Indiana for
the two and oh Stallions and.
Speaker 5 (28:16):
Or Mustangs of Edgewood High School.
Speaker 1 (28:19):
They get South Putnam later on this evening high school
football game number three for everybody, including Edgewood and the
voice of the Hoosiers, Don Fisher.
Speaker 5 (28:29):
Are you in our en route right now to Ellisville?
Speaker 9 (28:33):
The truth is, John, I'm en route to Bloomington and
I'm not going to be able to see the game
tonight because I'm am seeing the Hall of Fame banquet.
Speaker 1 (28:42):
Well that's just ridiculous. Do they not understand the consequences
of that? You start out two and oh with Edgewood
and you can't go what the hell?
Speaker 2 (28:52):
I know?
Speaker 9 (28:52):
It's disappointing, and there's nothing I can do about it
because they always ask me to do this, and I
didn't know the date and how it would work out
in that context. But it's always on a Friday before
a whole football game, so it is this week, so
it's tonight.
Speaker 5 (29:12):
Can can we blame Scott Dolson for this?
Speaker 9 (29:16):
You can't, or you can.
Speaker 7 (29:18):
You can.
Speaker 2 (29:19):
You could blame anybody.
Speaker 5 (29:20):
You'd like, Fisher, So you're a victim of the date,
you know.
Speaker 4 (29:28):
I understand Fish is a victim of his own success. Yeah,
you know, if you were some loser, Fish, they wouldn't
want you around anything. But when you throw your name
on something, I mean, it adds to the prestige. You
think you athletics, You think Don Fisher. So it wouldn't
be the same without you, So I know, and I'm
sure over your long tenure at IU, I bet there
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are countless sacrifices you've had to make. And that's what
that's one of the downsides of having a job like
we do.
Speaker 9 (29:57):
You're correct in that it is a part of a job,
and it's something that I've done this for so many years.
I think I missed one here in the last ten maybe,
but I probably have done this for the last twenty
years plus, so it's kind of an institution, so to speak.
But there will be a time when somebody else takes over,
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and that will be five.
Speaker 1 (30:22):
So you know that South Putt's two and oh much
like the Stallions, and South Putts put up one to
eighteen in two games offensively so far. I mean, this
is a three to a clash in Week three tonight.
Speaker 2 (30:38):
It is the South button.
Speaker 9 (30:40):
Them program has been good for some time, without question,
and they absolutely destroyed Edgewood last year and the year before,
so they've dealt with these guys previously. We're hoping that
tonight is a little bit different story at least one
that's a lot closer in score that it was last year.
Speaker 2 (31:01):
I can't even remember what the score was, it was
so bad. So running back, the.
Speaker 9 (31:06):
Running back supposedly for South Putts ran for six hundred
plush yards in two games.
Speaker 1 (31:16):
When is he like thirty five years old?
Speaker 5 (31:19):
What we got?
Speaker 2 (31:20):
I don't.
Speaker 9 (31:20):
I don't know how old he is. All I know
is he's obviously pretty dog gone good.
Speaker 1 (31:25):
Yeah is hey, my big, my big question is are
you staying in Bloomington tonight?
Speaker 9 (31:31):
We are Susie and I are headed down there to speaking. Yes,
we are staying overnight because we have a twelve noon
kickoff and at eleven o'clock pre game show tomorrow, so
we get we get a night in the student union.
Speaker 1 (31:44):
All right, So you guys going to Brothers Bar and
Grill to celebrate later on this evening.
Speaker 5 (31:48):
Where you guys got where all the kids go.
Speaker 10 (31:52):
We are not going to Brothers Bar and Grills.
Speaker 9 (32:01):
John Susie says, We're going to the Frangi Panty Room.
Speaker 5 (32:04):
No, you are? Are you won? We used to have them.
Speaker 1 (32:07):
That's where I used to Yeah, well you should because
that's where I had my junior prom for Eastern Green.
Speaker 9 (32:13):
I understand that, but I don't think there's a problem
there to night, and they may have locked the doors,
who knows.
Speaker 5 (32:20):
Yeah, I love that though. That'd be a great time.
Speaker 1 (32:23):
Hey, don tell us a little bit about Kennesaw State,
because I don't know a damn thing, to be quite honest,
I'm assuming you do.
Speaker 5 (32:29):
It's in Georgia.
Speaker 10 (32:30):
Well, I know a little bit about him.
Speaker 9 (32:31):
They have one of our former Indiana quarterbacks as their quarterback.
Dexter Williams is the quarterback. After saying out a year
with an injury of force in Indiana and then transferring
to Georgia Southern and Exeter is the quarterback he had.
He had a pretty good game last week and it
was a suntor bulwich and they fell the wake Forest
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by a single point, ten to nine. So they put
a good football team and in the end of course
things that they've got one two and they didn't play
up to what these other capabilities were last week. So
I think it's going to be a very interesting matchup.
But I think that Indiana don't prevail, and they may
prevail in a big play because I think Kurtseigetti was
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not all that pigs last week.
Speaker 4 (33:15):
In the four weeks, well fish, they better prevail in
a big way because they're thirty six and a half
point favorites. But yeah, the disrespect is real. I you
coming off a playoff season. They won in week one
and fell three spots in the A people they win
by double digits and dropping the poll, and to me
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that's a little bit ridiculous.
Speaker 9 (33:38):
Well, you've got to understand, Chris, that one of the
things that Indiana football has dealt with for many years
is disrespect. And they they got quite a bit of
that last year from the SEC was right in the
back of the college football playoffs. But honestly, I don't
think there's any doubt that this is a good ball club,
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that Indiana's a really good the football team this year
and it's going to get better.
Speaker 10 (34:03):
Last week was disappointing in some.
Speaker 9 (34:04):
Ways, but we have five and two yards of offense
last week. And when you'd have that much offense and
don't score a ton of points, people get disappointed. But
I will tell you this, Kurt Signetti is the best
coach I've ever been around. And not saying something because
I love Bill Mallory to death. As you know, I
thought We've had a couple of other good coaches as
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well for the dude through of these years. But nevertheless,
you got to win, and that's the name of the game.
But when you don't win, especially a program like Indiana,
you're probably going to get disrespect to full event.
Speaker 5 (34:38):
What does it say about the program?
Speaker 2 (34:40):
Though?
Speaker 4 (34:40):
When winning a game against anybody by thirteen points comes
with some disappointment, I mean, I guess that comes with expectation,
and as you said, the disrespect and the disappointment for
years down in Bloomington, and now it's like, Okay, we're
not happy with just winning. We want to win. We
want to go out there, we want to dominate opponents,
non conference opponents especially, And I think that is good
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that Signetti has that kind of mindset, like, hey, that
wasn't good enough, and I do.
Speaker 2 (35:10):
It's exactly right.
Speaker 9 (35:11):
There's always expectations when you have a season like Indiana
have last year, no matter what school it is, but
still when you have that kind of year in Indiana,
it even brings out more the expectations. And there was
a great crowd last week. It wasn't a packed house,
it wasn't sold out, but the ex section of these
three ballgames at the beginning of the season have gotten
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no hype simply because of who Indiana's.
Speaker 10 (35:35):
Playing, And so that's part of the.
Speaker 9 (35:37):
Issue, and the Indiana fan base has to understand that
despite that, they still have to show up for the
ballgame and they've got to have energy. And last week,
like coach Signetti said in the post game show, he said,
it was kind of deja bool based on last year's
for Paulvitch against Florida International, and the fans holed up
at half time and a lot of them did the
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same thing this last ballgame. So it's I think that
Indiana's got to get get over. The fan base has
got to understand how important the energy is that the
supplies in a ball game, whether it's a blowout or otherwise.
If you're going to be a football school, you've got
to be you got to act like a football school.
At so far, Indiana and the Indiana fan base hasn't
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totally understood that at this point.
Speaker 5 (36:21):
That's Don Fisher, Voice of the Hoosiers.
Speaker 1 (36:22):
You do have High U and Kennesaw State coming up
tomorrow eleven am ninety three. I should say eleven am
ninety three to five and one oh seven five the
fan is the time for the pregame show. So what
did you gather in regarding quarterback Fernando Mendoza. I don't
know how much you take away from that performance against Odu,
but what were your thoughts, at least initially seeing him
(36:46):
under center for the Hoosiers.
Speaker 9 (36:48):
Well, I don't think there's any question John, but he's
got the talent level.
Speaker 10 (36:52):
That indeed, I think the question mark on.
Speaker 9 (36:55):
Him right now is his decision making and not that
he had a bad game in that area is last week,
but he's got he's got a great car receivers. He
didn't spread the ball out like we saw last year.
I think that's something that Curtis Roark was really good
at and I think that Fernanda will get better at it.
I think he's based on what I heard last night
(37:17):
from put Sidetti and our talk show. I think he's
really made some improvements this week. And maybe he's got golf.
Speaker 10 (37:24):
The jitters a little bit of Indiana.
Speaker 9 (37:26):
For the first time, so and that's always a factor too.
Speaker 7 (37:29):
And the other thing.
Speaker 9 (37:30):
About Curtis Rourke, he kind of spoiled everybody for a
guy that is one of the great decision makers in
a football game that I've ever watched. I think he
was so spectacular in making the right decisions almost every
single play, and unfortunately Rananda didn't do that the first
ball game.
Speaker 10 (37:48):
And people think, well, this guy can't be nu is good.
Speaker 9 (37:52):
Well, I think he's people think he is, so let's
just have to wait and see how.
Speaker 2 (37:55):
It proves out.
Speaker 4 (37:57):
Well, I can tell you this, I've seen some draft
boards and some prognostications that have him as one of
the as a first round quality you know, talent so
he's very well thought of, uh, just coming into the season,
and so now it's all about, like what you said,
settle in.
Speaker 5 (38:16):
It's good that you you get a game.
Speaker 4 (38:17):
Under your belt against the team you were supposed to
beat and you do beat, and another one this week
where you can kind of, you know, settle in even
more and be ready when when the big time games
come around.
Speaker 9 (38:27):
No question, I mean the next two ball games are
just like the first one. They've got to they've got
to make a statement probably in this in these next
two in regard to the score and all of those
kinds of things. But I think the biggest thing in
Churas Signetti's mind is that they've got to eliminate the
mistakes that they had in that first ball game. I
think he was pretty upset with his football team in
the sense of the two big plays and d Binga
(38:52):
was able to pull off one of the very the
very first player of the first series and then the
other one late in the fourth quarter. Uh have those
two missteps by the defense was negative.
Speaker 10 (39:04):
But the other thing about it is they did.
Speaker 9 (39:05):
That they had, they had the numbers, the statistics, everything
was in their favor last week. They just didn't produce
the same ever points that we saw the consistent base
last year. I think that's gonna change.
Speaker 1 (39:17):
So don fish your Voice of the Hoosiers. Are there anymore?
Automotive Group Hotline? All right, Well, you and Susie have
a great time down at the Hall of Fame induction
ceremonies and inside the Memorial Union.
Speaker 5 (39:31):
That's awesome down there by the way too. I do
love it. I do it.
Speaker 9 (39:36):
Is you know one of the guys that's going in tonight,
I'm gonna mention him simply because everybody knows who I'm
talking about. One of the new Hall of Famers is
going to be Cody Zeller, and we're really excited about that.
Speaker 2 (39:48):
Man.
Speaker 1 (39:48):
That means you're going to have all of Davies County
up in there tonight.
Speaker 5 (39:51):
Enjoy that.
Speaker 9 (39:56):
Maybe the whole Hatchet house will show up.
Speaker 5 (40:00):
And now not Dinky's in Montgomery.
Speaker 1 (40:03):
They're not going to anybody there to bid on the
sheep they're going to have for sale later on tonight.
Speaker 5 (40:07):
What were they gonna be doing down there? Holy hell,
I got.
Speaker 10 (40:11):
No idea what they'll be doing down there, But let's keep.
Speaker 1 (40:16):
Oh well, you mentioned, how do you walk up to
Cody later off tonight and go ahead, man, have you
ever been to Dinky's. I guarantee you have absolutely Dinkies
and they'll know exactly.
Speaker 5 (40:26):
What you're talking about.
Speaker 9 (40:28):
And do you know what, John, that you would know?
That tells me everything I've ever known about.
Speaker 8 (40:33):
You is true?
Speaker 5 (40:34):
Yeah it is.
Speaker 1 (40:35):
It's magnified, My hill, my hill, Billy thiss is magnified.
Speaker 5 (40:39):
With that comment right there there, it is.
Speaker 7 (40:44):
All buddy.
Speaker 1 (40:45):
Next next week, we'll do it. I know it's a
Friday night game next week right within the United State.
Speaker 2 (40:50):
Yes it is. Yes, that sucks.
Speaker 5 (40:53):
Oh dang, Friday night. You're not gonna be able to watch.
Speaker 1 (40:58):
And one of the river Rats, Edgewood gets the river
Rats next week too.
Speaker 5 (41:02):
You're not gonna be able to see it.
Speaker 2 (41:04):
I know it.
Speaker 9 (41:04):
She will be two weeks in a row and I'm
gonna be missing in action.
Speaker 5 (41:08):
Man, Hey, Fish, is Susie in the car with you?
She is, well, you didn't know it. Let her get
a word in edgewise as usual, but tell her we
said hi.
Speaker 2 (41:20):
Trust me, she gets.
Speaker 10 (41:21):
She gets all she can handle with John and you
here together.
Speaker 4 (41:28):
Yes, exactly, exactly. Always a good time. Oh man, I know.
Speaker 5 (41:32):
You guys love watching me drinking about ten beers. I
know it.
Speaker 9 (41:39):
All I know, John, is that we have a good time.
And every time we get together.
Speaker 5 (41:43):
We do, Buddy, we do. You got it?
Speaker 1 (41:46):
Well, have fun down there tonight and have a great
call tomorrow and we'll do it again soon next Friday. Don,
thank you all right, see you guys, Don and Susie
Fisher on the way to bloom me to tonight and
on the Anymore Automotive Group hootlyining right now express pro
Tyernato every Friday with the thirteenth Central Indiana Joe Childer's
(42:08):
operator locations, we'll bring our good friend from Indiana Sports Talk,
Bob Lovell to us and then to you for week
number three of the high school football season.
Speaker 5 (42:19):
Hello, Bob, how are you?
Speaker 8 (42:20):
I'm great, John, how are you?
Speaker 5 (42:22):
Bob? Where do we begin on this week number three?
Speaker 1 (42:25):
Because it always seems like at this point in time ago,
I can't believe how fast this is gone.
Speaker 8 (42:32):
We'll make it even faster.
Speaker 11 (42:33):
At the end of the nights to night it'll be
one thirty the regular season complete.
Speaker 8 (42:37):
So I don't know it just this is how it goes.
Speaker 5 (42:42):
Yeah, it is.
Speaker 1 (42:43):
What what's peaking our interest? To start with? You've got.
I will say this, I think, especially in six A,
we can start you have some incredibly talented teams across
the board. I know we always say that, but you can,
especially if you say that. I think at the start
of this season you see a lot of these teams
that have been.
Speaker 5 (43:02):
Really good, very early across the board.
Speaker 11 (43:06):
It's been really fun to watch and it's a really
balanced class.
Speaker 8 (43:10):
I think, quite frankly, they all are.
Speaker 11 (43:12):
But you start out tonight Brownsburg hosting Franklin Central. Franklin
Central brownser is number one, Franklin Central number twelve. Brownsburg
is legit, a lot of young guys back from last
year's championship. One of your favorite teams, Center Drove ranked
number two. They're they're hosting Marion. I think one of
the best games of the night is Hamilton Southeastern.
Speaker 12 (43:35):
Hosting Avon HSSE is is you know five number five
Avon number six, great matchup one that Mike Slide under
the radar.
Speaker 8 (43:46):
But Lawrence North taking on East Central East Central one
to four a year ago. They're really really good. So
I think up and down.
Speaker 11 (43:55):
Fishers at Nobles Zo I think is a great game.
Ben Davis at five Designs though Westfield is another great
game in six A. So literally, I think every one
of these matchups has some UH has some potential to
be tremendously played games, well contested games.
Speaker 1 (44:13):
Yeah, I agree with you right there, you get you
mentioned Browsburg Franklin Central UH both started out at two
and zero. I I feel for our friends up in
Grant County because I think Marion, what Marion is four
A at one and one of the season venturing down
to UH near me at Sina Grove, I'm assuming that
(44:34):
probably won't end well for them coming up later on
the Savening.
Speaker 5 (44:39):
That's gonna be a tough one.
Speaker 8 (44:40):
Yeah, it has the potential to be a very tough one,
to be honest, because I mean it's a.
Speaker 11 (44:47):
It's it's just one of those things where listen, you
and Marion is cycling through kids.
Speaker 8 (44:57):
They have not started out as well as it.
Speaker 11 (45:00):
Expected, a lost last week, and so but you're you're
playing an extremely good team in Center Grove.
Speaker 1 (45:06):
With that question, that's Bob lovel Indiana Sports Talk Week three,
high School Football that is later on tonight. I don't
think we have talked at all about this team and
in the past, Bob, it's been about Columbus East in
Bartholomew County, right, but it has the past couple of
seasons now and especially this one been about the Bulldogs
(45:28):
of Columbus North. Starting out at two and zero, they
face zero and two Southport, which should not be an
issue for them. That is kind of an under radar,
really good football team and six A to start this season.
Speaker 11 (45:41):
There's no question, John, and they've just gotten a little
bit better, a little bit better, had a really nice
run last year. A bunch of guys back play a
really good schedule. The trivia question for the day, John,
is that I did my student teaching at Columbus High School,
which Dan split into Columbus North. That it was Columbus
(46:01):
High School when back in nineteen seventy three when I
did my student teaching, and so I always have a
fond spot in my heart for Columbus North.
Speaker 5 (46:10):
Let me tell you this.
Speaker 1 (46:11):
There is a famous former Bulldog that when I was
at Indiana State Now, I used to whip his ass
in the pickup games like oh, me and my Green
County guys would take him a task. But Kevin Johnson,
if you remember the name Kevin Johnson, actually he is
(46:32):
an incredibly good. Dude was incredibly talented basketball back in
the day coming out of Columbus North, and he was
he was a part of that particular team was with
Tates Locke back at Indiana State. But Kevin Johnson of
Columbus North High School back in the day, who I
think still listens to the show and probably is not
a big fan of what I just said.
Speaker 11 (46:57):
Well, everybody's a fan of yours, John You know that.
Speaker 1 (47:01):
Oh man, there's no doubt it's up by level with us.
Speaker 5 (47:05):
You're playing Field Quakers two and a night.
Speaker 1 (47:08):
Yeah, New Pal obviously, what's up, buddy, Good to see you,
Pale Matt New Pal a top five A at two
and oh.
Speaker 5 (47:15):
As well, they listen.
Speaker 1 (47:16):
There's a lot of really good teams, but New Pal
looks certainly at the beginning to be the class of
this group so far.
Speaker 8 (47:23):
I would agree with you.
Speaker 11 (47:26):
They're very, very good obviously, you know, won a championship
a year ago, came back.
Speaker 8 (47:31):
It's just amazing what Cook Ralph does year in and
year round. They're one of the most.
Speaker 11 (47:38):
Prolific and consistent teams in the entire state.
Speaker 8 (47:42):
And this team is no different. You know, you know,
it's just.
Speaker 11 (47:44):
One of those very crowded classes where they are though,
there's a lot of really good football teams. But Mike
Quakers are playing Morgarsville annual battle, big matchup, big rivalry game.
I've played in a couple of those games. I know
how that fields uh Quakes. You're off to a good
start to rank number seven. Morezill's undefeated, So that's that
(48:06):
in Moorezill.
Speaker 8 (48:07):
So a lot going on in that game.
Speaker 1 (48:11):
Bob Lovell got you covered with all of it later
on tonight on Indiana Sports Talk. I wanted to give
some love because I don't think we've talked about Franklin,
your hometown team to a two and oh start. I'm
going to bring that up because they're at Perim Meridian
and the Falcons. But my neighbor from Paradise, Dave Watson,
I know Jeff Watson is a part of the officiating
crew at Perim Meridian for that one and a very
(48:33):
impressive start for Franklin through the first two weeks of
the season.
Speaker 8 (48:37):
Yeah, they have.
Speaker 11 (48:37):
They started well there. Chris call I think is underrated coach.
He's tremendous. His kids have played well at a big
win obviously last week a bunch of guys back from
a year ago. They kind of felt like this would
be a scene that could play well, and so you
get a big matchup tonight, no question, obviously. I think
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one of the games, John, we need to pay attention
to Shitar hosting Ron Colley.
Speaker 8 (49:05):
What a game.
Speaker 11 (49:06):
It doesn't matter where it's played, it doesn't matter what sport.
Speaker 8 (49:09):
That's a great matchup.
Speaker 5 (49:12):
I had no doubt about that.
Speaker 1 (49:13):
Bob Lovell is with us my friend John Martin on
the text line three one seven seventy want you to
talk up Beast Grove. The Grover I'm out off to
a fantastic start.
Speaker 11 (49:26):
It is, and it's not something they've done in a while,
but they are off to a great start. The thing
about him is they haven't shied away from playing a
really good schedule.
Speaker 8 (49:36):
Uh. They They've got guys.
Speaker 11 (49:38):
You know, their ranked thirteenth in the four A, which
I think is a tremendous accomplishment for them.
Speaker 8 (49:44):
They play the Sena tonight at home. I think you
know they can.
Speaker 11 (49:48):
They might find themselves going to three and zero with this,
and it'd be a fantastic way to begin the season.
Speaker 8 (49:54):
And if a program is getting better and better.
Speaker 1 (49:57):
All right, Johnson County Trafalgar the locate Indian Creek off
to a two and zero starting the season getting Covenant Christian.
Speaker 5 (50:05):
Bob later on tonight, they're really good.
Speaker 11 (50:08):
Indian Creek's really good. I mean they are solid, solid
football team. Covenant Christian similarly good. But the Creek is
playing awfully, awfully well right now, John and wouldn't surprise.
Speaker 8 (50:20):
Me if they could pick up another one tonight.
Speaker 1 (50:24):
So, Bob Lovell not only high school of the night,
but certainly collegiately tomorrow, are you and Kennesaw State eleven am?
Your coverage begins right here. That is a noonkick from
Bloomington Southern Illinois, and hey, listen whatever. For the boiler Makers,
it was so exciting for them to be able to
see that witness that. I know it was at the
(50:44):
expense of our good friends up in Muncie, but for
those in West Lafayette, that was a feel good Saturday
to open things up last week, wasn't a Bob?
Speaker 9 (50:52):
Yeah?
Speaker 11 (50:52):
And I think they continue tomorrow. I mean, I think
you get coach otom knows how to win, how to
run a program, has come in rejuvenated a p new
team that clearly needed it, and so I think it's
gonna be It'll be a hard They didn't get a
lot of love from the schedule makers at the Big Ten,
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but I think this is a solid football team.
Speaker 8 (51:15):
It's going to surprise people.
Speaker 1 (51:17):
My Blevel's got you covered on Indiana Sports Talk tonight
tomorrow night as well. He is legendary on that show
throughout the state of Indiana.
Speaker 5 (51:28):
And where are you going for dinner before you hit
the show tonight?
Speaker 8 (51:32):
Brother?
Speaker 11 (51:32):
Friday night routine here is to uh call the American
leaguion and order order dinner and I'll swing out there
and pick it up and come home and my wife
and all enjoy a nice dinner at home.
Speaker 5 (51:45):
Oh man, you've got it. I know you are.
Speaker 2 (51:48):
I am.
Speaker 5 (51:50):
You have every base cover.
Speaker 2 (51:51):
Buddy.
Speaker 1 (51:54):
Hey, it's a pleasure to have you on every Friday,
and have a great show tonight tomorrow.
Speaker 5 (51:59):
We'll do it again next week.
Speaker 8 (52:00):
Thanks to the kind words too. Thanks have a great weekend.
Speaker 1 (52:04):
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