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December 10, 2025 • 19 mins

Former NFL quarterback Boomer Esiason joined The Ride With JMV to discuss the Colts signing 44-year-old Philip Rivers!

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hey, Joddy is now the Eddy Moore Automotive Group plotline,

(00:02):
a familiar voice a former NFL quarterback at the fan
in New York CBS Sports Network, and the latest edition
of Peyton's Places is outstanding. As we're joined now by
Boomer Size said, Hello, Boomer, how are you?

Speaker 2 (00:17):
Johnny? Thanks for having me on. I'm doing well and
certainly had a lot of fun with Peyton shooting that
this past summer. And Peyton's quite the comedian and so
easy to work off of for sure.

Speaker 1 (00:28):
Yeah, I say he like is reinventing roles before that
Dick Butkus and Bubba Smith and those long before him,
I think kind of installed, but he's taking it to
a different level here.

Speaker 2 (00:41):
Well. The thing I appreciated about Peyton is that he
loves ball when he loves the NFL, and he has
the ability financially, personality wise, and the understanding of how
to put something like Omaha Productions together. And he and
his brother Eli deserve a lot of credit for that
because they're making more money now than they ever did
when they played. And rightfully so, I mean, and just

(01:04):
spending a couple hours with Peyton, because that's all it
took for us to shoot that. Yeah, shows me that
he understands exactly how things need to get done quickly, decisively.
They have a great script writer, they have great ideas,
and it always goes back to the history of the NFL.
And that's what I love so much about Peyton and
what he's doing with Peyton's Place.

Speaker 1 (01:26):
And you could check that out the latest edition of
Peyton's Places. Boomeras Siasin joins us. The last time you're on,
we talked about the renaissance campaign of Daniel Jones, which
since we last spoke has ended, and now it's just
kind of the last eight or so years of the
Colts in a nutshell here. Everything kind of goes hey

(01:46):
wire and wild, and you have Philip Rivers that I
think is likely going to start coming up on Sunday.
So let's start here. What would all this entail for
a quarterback having to come back and then start a
football game after not playing for the past five years,
no matter what level we're talking about here, Boomer.

Speaker 2 (02:03):
Well, well, let's first off with Daniel Jones. When we
last talked about Daniel and he was playing, well, I
told you one of the things that was the problem
here in New york Is that he couldn't make it
through a season. He kept getting hurt, and every time
he got hurt, the team would fall apart. You know,
the team loved him, they respected him, they appreciated his leadership,
the way he went about his business. But it was

(02:25):
a neck injury, it was a knee injury. I mean,
these were serious injuries. And it meant so much to
him this year that he went out there with a
broken fibula to try to play through it. Maybe he
puts pressure on his left achilles and next thing you
know that Snap So made prayers out to him. For sure,
we are sick to our stomach for him. We were
hoping for the best. We thought, you know, this could

(02:47):
be one hundred and fifty million dollar contract coming his way,
given the way that he had started the first Ay game. So,
I mean, I feel sick for the young man. He's
a great young great young guy, and hopefully he'll be
able to restart his career in another year or so.
Now that being said, that being said, you know you're
Philip Rivers. You haven't played football in eighteen hundred days.

(03:07):
Think about that. The last game that he played was
back on January ninth, twenty twenty one, and it was
versus the Bills. You guys remember that game. That was
a fourth and goal if I remember, and the the
I think the Colts won for it and Philip overthrew.
I forget whoever threw in the back of the end zone,
and that was Frank Wright was his coach. Yeah, And

(03:29):
you know, unfortunately for Chris Ballard the Colts organization, they
are fans out there, This is nothing new for them.
I mean, you guys have been through this for the
last eight or nine years, ever since Andrew Luck decided
to retire. That you know, you think you finally got
the guy, and then all of a sudden, the guy
gets hurt and now you have to turn back to
the you know, the clocks. And I I don't know

(03:51):
what kind of condition Phillips in. I'm assuming that he
took very good care of himself, that he probably looked
reasonable on the practice field. But if he has the
start a game, I mean, I have to be realistic here,
his chances for any sort of success. I mean it's
less than fifty to fifty I think, And hopefully they'll

(04:12):
lean on Jonathan Taylor, which I'm sure they will and
do a lot of play action passing and not put
Philip back there in a shotgun and protecting him with
five guys. That would be insane to me. So Shane
Steiken's going to have to go into his bag of
tricks if in fact, Philip ends up being the starter
for them.

Speaker 1 (04:30):
I do think and I don't know how you feel
about this. Do you think he comes back if he
doesn't believe that he's going to be installed immediately? Do
you think he even jacks with this whatsoever? If there's
not that belief there. I mean, we don't know him,
we're not inside that brain. But what could he be
thinking surrounding this comeback? Because there's a lot of ramifications

(04:52):
from Ith.

Speaker 2 (04:53):
Yeah, I mean, you know, look, there's ego involved in
everything else, and he probably loves being wanted, you know,
I thought, but maybe they'd call Matt Ryan. But he
weighs about a buck twenty. Watching him on CBS now,
it's like he couldn't play football because he'd probably get
cut in half. But and I know that the Colt
actually tried him that last year with Frank, So I

(05:13):
don't know. This is just a weird kind of deal.
It's it's a desperation move. There is no other choice
other than maybe Brett Rippon. Maybe they start him if
they feel like Philip's not ready. I mean, they're playing
against the Seahawks, who are one of the best teams
in the league, and they're playing in Seattle. With the
defense that gets after the quarterback, they have a lot

(05:34):
of sacks. I mean, if Philip does play in this game,
whether he's starting it or ends up finishing it. If
he does finish it, I don't know you're asking, You're
asking an awful lot, and I think he's really taking
just an incredible risk if he steps on that football field.

Speaker 1 (05:52):
Did it shock you the moves? And did you know?

Speaker 2 (05:55):
It didn't shock me, because you know, there's desperation and
there's desperate and I think you know, given the fact
that the Colts have had a really good year up
until their last three games, I can understand why Chris
Ballard and the Colts would go down this road. You know,
they're going to try to save their season and this
is it's nothing but a desperation move. I don't know

(06:18):
how else you would describe it. And I'm not saying
they're doing the right thing or the wrong thing. I'm
just saying they're maybe doing the only thing that they
think gives them, you know, half of a chance to
win some of these games. And when you look at
their schedule, their strength of schedule here coming down the
end of the season is one of the toughest, if
not the toughest, in the league. And you look at
their last three games that they've lost. All you have

(06:39):
to do is look at the giveaways the sacks in
the past five games, and that tells you all you
need to know about this offense that seems to have
fallen apart for some reason and lost their way. And
I think a lot of that obviously has to do
with the injury of Daniel Jones, not just the achilles,
but the fibula injury that leads to him lose one

(07:00):
of the most important aspects of his game, and that's
the ability to move and run with the football.

Speaker 1 (07:06):
That is Boomers, Sias and of the fan in New York,
CBS Sports Network and more. You're catching him with Andy
Moore Auto Motive Group Hotline. You're having a conversation I
think on your show about what it would take to
return like five years after I think you were out
of the NFL or whatever, you hadn't thrown a football
and what it entails. And I know that was kind

(07:28):
of a funny conversation, but at the same time it
was ringing so true. There's one thing to talk about it,
or to throw it to nobody or to throw to the
equipment guy when you're all out there alone on your field.
But it's another thing to go against the defense that
hasn't allowed to score in like the last two games
and really comes hard after the quarterback. It is absolutely
shocking to think for me that Rivers will be out

(07:50):
there on Sunday. But then again, I have to understand
this is the Colts, and really there's nothing that would
shock me decision wise about their path any longer. So
I actually expected boom.

Speaker 2 (08:03):
Well, you know the other thing too, and I don't
know if they would be thinking this way. You know,
they may just say throw Brett Ripping out there. I
don't know, maybe get Philip in the game somewhere along
the line. I don't know. I can't put my own
brain in Shane Steiken's head and what he and Chris
Ballard are talking about. You know, Seattle's only given up
nine points as you were pointing out in the last

(08:23):
two games, and that's the fewest in the two games
span since twenty fourteen. That's how good their defense has
been playing. And I always say this, You know, you
can look at strength of schedule, but what does that
strength of schedule look like when that team arrives to
the stadium. So in the case of the Colts, they
have a very good record, So you say, okay, well
they got that would make them a tough out, that

(08:44):
would be a that would be a big problem. But
the Colts come in now losing three in a row
and losing their starting quarterback and may have to rely
on a forty four year old quarterback. So where does
that really actually put that strength of schedule situation in
play here? It doesn't. I think this is when you
want to exactly catch the Colts, and this is the
Seahawks benefit from this. So and by the and on

(09:07):
the other side, everybody's healthy and Jackson Smith and Jigbush
showed back up again last week. Sam Darnold has played
great for this team. I wonder if I think, in
the back of my mind, you know, maybe we we
kind of give up this game. You're not thinking give
up the game, especially if you're a player putting the
uniform on. But maybe internally they're saying, you know, we're
probably going to lose this game. Let's see if we

(09:28):
can make a final push those last three games when
we're playing teams within our division. But man, I mean,
it's just this is such an impossible situation for the Colts.
And I understand desperate times require desperate measures. And I
would say I'm rooting for Philip. I want him to
do well, but to expect anything spectacular out of him

(09:52):
is truly unrealistic.

Speaker 1 (09:54):
Does this from the outside looking in for you appear
to be a general manager on a head coach that
may be trying to save what possibly could be the
end for them as everything has fallen apart. Is this
part of the desperation move that you view from both
coach and general manager here?

Speaker 2 (10:11):
And Andy, No, I don't, I don't. I think it's
a really unfortunate set of circumstances. And you know, Chris Ballard, Look,
you know he was part of firing my one of
my best friends in the whole world, Frank Reich. I
hold no ill will against that at all with him.
I know he's a really good general manager. I know
that he's built up a really good roster over the years.

(10:33):
Frank always got the support that he needed from Chris
until you know, you know, mister Hearsay decided. You know,
enough's enough, and you know it's all. It always comes
back to the same thing. You know, who's the quarterback.
And when you look at the top twelve or fourteen
teams and you look at their healthy quarterbacks that are productive,
those are the ones that are always going to go

(10:54):
to the playoffs. And unfortunately for the Colts, it's been
the same thing now ever since Andrew Luck retired. So
I don't think Shane Steiken or Chris Ballard would be
in jeopardy. I really don't think that. And I don't
know if you know the new owner out there standing
on the sideline, she'd gets it. I think she understands
what has happened here. I mean, she seems like a

(11:16):
very you know, intuitive person, seems like somebody that's really
gotten into the game of football, and she sees the
desperation in the stress that are on the faces. I'm
sure of her GM and her head coach. So I mean,
it's a really unfortunate set of circumstances, I don't think
they change. I just think that they have to find
themselves who they believe can be their next quarterback. And

(11:37):
obviously next year is not going to be Daniel Jones
because he's not going to be ready.

Speaker 1 (11:41):
So boomersiza with us. I thought a tail of the
tape happened at the NFL trade deadline, and I think
if you believe, regardless of the circumstances here since Boom
and whatever, you think about Sauce Gardner, who is now
out with an injury. But I think when you say, okay,
you can trade these two first rounders of the future

(12:02):
and bring in this guy because you want to win
in the now, and we've seen things dynamically change really
a one eighty from that point in time and now.
But I think when you do that that to me,
you all most tell everybody that these are my guys
for the future. I mean, maybe things can change, but
I don't know how much they will. Considering what was
allowed by Carly Ursa Gordon back during the NFL trade deadline,

(12:25):
that's kind of how I view it, and short sided thinking.

Speaker 2 (12:27):
I guess in this case, well, I think they were
going for it, and I think they felt like they
needed one thing and that was going to be a
shutdown corner. Now from the other side, the Jets side,
which we cover obviously every day here, and the Jets are,
you know, a mega disaster once again, just like they
have been for the last ten years, and as their
season winds down, they fall apart and we're getting kind

(12:49):
of used to it. We actually thought that the general manager,
Darren Mouji, did a great job at the trade deadline,
trading both Sauce Gardner to the Colts and then of
course Quinn Williams to the Dallas Cowboys and airing the
assets they need to rebuild this franchise and to try
to get their own franchise quarterback. So we felt like
the Jets did the one hundred percent right thing. And again,

(13:09):
it's just really unfortunate that a very talented player ends up,
you know, straining a calf. And I don't know if
your listeners feel this way out there, but I've said
this a thousand times here in New York. When their
calf is involved, the next thing that goes is the achilles.
And that's why you have to be really, really really

(13:30):
careful with an achilles or a calf injury. And you know,
you saw that with Tyres Halliburton. We saw it, you
know last year with the Boston Celtics. We've seen it,
you know, so many times, Aaron Rodgers. I mean, any
sort of calf injury can easily lead to a PopEd
achilles and that's the last thing that you would want
to have happen to Sauce Gardner. So again, three injuries too,

(13:52):
by the way, to Forrest Buckner. That's another huge injury.
So those are things that I'm sure missus Dersy or
you say is basically hash to take into account when
it comes to, you know, whether or not she's going
to blow out the whole front office and the coaching stuff.
I just don't see that happening. I don't think that
would be a prudent move.

Speaker 1 (14:11):
I'm going to double back to Daniel Jones. I happen
to think that Daniel Jones, who will resign here and
clearly not for the amount of money that he would
have resigned for here, But I think that he resigns here.
I think they like him enough, and I think next year,
I think they're going to wait. I think really all
three quarterbacks that have been in the fold. That includes
in this case, Riley Leonard who's also dinged up, and

(14:31):
Anthony Richardson. I think all three of these dudes are
going to be back coming up next year. That's at
least what because you look at the free agency on
the lack of assets, I don't know really what choice
unless they do blow it up the Colts are going
to have with that in mind.

Speaker 2 (14:45):
Yeah, Well, the only thing that I would say in
reverse to Daniel Jones, it's the same thing. It's you know,
what's it going to hurt next door two years from now?
Because I doubt he'll play next year. I mean, I
know that Deshaun Watson had the same injury around the
same time last year, and he is just getting onto
the practice field now and they're not going to put

(15:06):
him out on the field in these last four games regardless.
So I think that Daniel would be in the same spot.
Maybe he does sign a contract with the Colts, maybe
he takes a year off and doesn't sign and then
resigns back with the Colts. I don't know. I don't
know what that situation's going to encounter, because whatever they
give him, they're going to have to absorb on the
salary cap, and there's a whole other set of circumstances
that you got to take into account. But you know,

(15:29):
my thing with Daniel Jones would be, I can't give
you a long term, big money, guaranteed contract. I just
can't because your history is such that you have serious
injuries that forces you to lead, you know, lose an
inordinate amount of games, and usually the team collapses around

(15:49):
you when that happens. And that's been his moniker unfortunately
in his entire career, except the one year that they
went to the playoffs and they beat the Minnesota Vikings.

Speaker 1 (15:58):
TA boomer assize him with us. Before I let you know,
I got to get your thoughts on the one seed
in the college playoff. As a Maryland man, I'm sure
you've recognized the futility over the years of AYU football.
Can you believe what you've witnessed under Kurt Signetti in
the last two and then once you have witnessed this
last weekend Vida Ohio stead and being the number one

(16:18):
overall seed of the College Football Playoff? What do you
think about these Ooziers? So?

Speaker 2 (16:22):
I think they're great. You know, they went into Maryland
and Mendoza and company just absolutely steamrolled our team. And
I think our team is going to be steamrolled for
the next five years. So I can I'm getting used
to it, but I will say what Kurt has done
out there has been remarkable. The fact that he was
able to get Mendoza to come there and then have
Mendoza Bernando played the way that he has played, it's

(16:43):
been terrific. You know, it wasn't pretty against the Ohio State,
but those games sometimes are the best games. They're tight,
they're defensive oriented, they're looking for somebody to make a
mistake or somebody to make a misplay, and then all
of a sudden, you have your upset. What will be
interesting for Indiana be okay, let's be ready for our
first game once we get through the by and then

(17:04):
I think we all think that they're going to be
a team that's going to see Ohio State again, and
can they beat them twice within six weeks, that would
be the real cream on the top. So I love
Fernando Mendoza. I think he's a great player. I think
he's going to make a really good professional quarterback. I
think he's smart, he's big, he's strong, can make every throw.
He's athletic, and you know, the thing that I like

(17:27):
about him most just this whole attitude about life and
the way that he carries himself, his personal story with
his mom dealing with multiple sclerosis, and how their bond
has basically given him strength. So I appreciate all of that.
So I'm rooting for Indiana, believe it.

Speaker 1 (17:46):
Yeah, you think he was the Heisman.

Speaker 2 (17:48):
Yeah, yeah, I don't see why. I mean, I know
there will be some other you know, there's guys, you
know from Vanderbilt. What Pavia, I guess is getting some
late push here, you know, as he played in the SEC.
But I don't know. I think I feel like Fernando
Mendoza played almost a perfect year. You almost had like
a perfect season. I know the numbers aren't what some

(18:10):
past Heisman Trophy winning quarterbacks have had, but I mean,
all he did was lead his team to an eleven
and o season. I know they got a good defense,
That's that's part of it. It's a team game. But
Fernando is the unquestioned leader of that team, and I
thought he had a really really clean year and did
nothing but enhance his pro stock ability. So I think

(18:30):
he's gonna win it.

Speaker 1 (18:31):
You can find him at seven Boomersiasin on x He's
at the fan of New York. You can catch him
on CBS Sports Network and in the latest edition of
Peyton's Places. You can check that out too. It's Boomer
Assiasin on the Andy Moore Automotive Group potline. Boomer, Man,
it is outstanding. We will catch up again soon, but
I had to get your thoughts on Philip Rivers coming

(18:53):
up on Sunday. That is going to be watched. It'll
be interesting if he gets out there and plays, if nothing.

Speaker 2 (18:58):
Else, if he run by Phili, if you run by
Philip at any point. Just thought to know that Boomer
is saying his prayers for him.

Speaker 1 (19:05):
You gotta I appreciate it.

Speaker 2 (19:07):
Boomer.

Speaker 1 (19:08):
Okay, thank you boomers size on the anymore on the
Motive Proof hotline. We shall pass that along to Philip
Rivers from boomeras Issen
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