Full Show: Colts Lose 2nd Straight Game, IU vs Ohio State in Big Ten Championship + More!

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Speaker 1 (00:10):
And where we go here?

Speaker 2 (00:13):
Anything you have a chance against us?

Speaker 3 (00:14):
Mister cowboy gay mood.

Speaker 4 (00:17):
What do you like to do?

Speaker 3 (00:19):
Oh?

Speaker 5 (00:19):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (00:20):
Play chess, screw Sweller's play chests.

Speaker 6 (00:23):
They give off the Jonathan Taylor Chuck Cunning gets away walking.

Speaker 7 (00:26):
The goal line. He's in there, puts down.

Speaker 8 (00:30):
Dye.

Speaker 4 (00:31):
Why Jonathan Taylor Wheeler.

Speaker 6 (00:34):
Finds here's haliburn into the front court mishandled it mcgin'st
ay shot.

Speaker 1 (00:41):
He fsid John, I have never been bedroom to be
on the air with you here in Indianapolis, a place
where so many of my dreams have come true.

Speaker 5 (00:51):
The ride with JMV on ninety three five and one
oh seven five. The fan.

Speaker 4 (01:06):
Under center Jones ball in the left hash, he takes
his nap, fakes.

Speaker 6 (01:10):
Hoots, provack screen caught by Taylor thirty five. He's at
the forty forty five fifty down the left sideline, forty
thirty five thirty right out of bounds. Jonathan Taylor with
a run after the catch after the screen into plus territory,
first down, Colts out of the time out. The Colts
are going for fourth down in a yard at the
Texans nine yard line.

Speaker 4 (01:31):
The Colts trail three to nothing.

Speaker 6 (01:33):
Colts of the move right to left, out of the timeout,
Jones out of the gun.

Speaker 4 (01:36):
Tyler Warren drops the ball after.

Speaker 7 (01:38):
Going under center and was gonna run a quarterback.

Speaker 6 (01:41):
Sneak and the ball was kicked away as Warren could
not feeld it cleanly when Baggett squirted back into the backfield,
picked up by Jonathan Taylor who tried to run up
field and get up first down and he's stonewalled by
the Texans and the Colts have turned it over inside
the ten.

Speaker 7 (01:58):
Yard line after some trickery there.

Speaker 6 (02:00):
They sit Tyler Warren in motion, takes a step and
looks left, buyers down the left sideline into the end
zone and.

Speaker 4 (02:06):
It is Hey cuts for out of.

Speaker 7 (02:09):
Like Piers touchdown who covers nineteen yards.

Speaker 4 (02:13):
In the back left corner of the end zone.

Speaker 7 (02:15):
First score. They take the lead over the Texans six
to three.

Speaker 6 (02:20):
First in goal at the full ball in the right hash,
he'll dip under center, reached over in motion to the
left side.

Speaker 4 (02:26):
They sweep it to Nick Chubb.

Speaker 6 (02:28):
Chubb looking throathing outside the number left, trying.

Speaker 4 (02:31):
To pull its way into the end zone, and he does.
Nick Chubb puts the Texans back on top nine.

Speaker 6 (02:36):
To six with five o eight to go in the
second quarter, Daniel Jones go line touchdown for the Colts.

Speaker 9 (02:43):
Tuyler Warren touch down.

Speaker 7 (02:46):
Ind why and it's a gate up twelve for the
touchdown of the Warren and the Colts are an extra
point away from tying the game.

Speaker 6 (02:54):
It's thirteen to twelve. Game tied at thirteen. Stroud out
of the gun running back left is Marx.

Speaker 4 (03:02):
They fake it to him.

Speaker 6 (03:03):
Now here's an in and round to Niko Collins outside
the numbers left at the ten cuts of the five.
He's in touchdown. Jones goes out of the gun. Rere
receivers bunch to the right side, all the left hash
Taylor the back left. Lit's again past time, crows out
feel incomplete with the twenty yard line and I'm able
to bring that down. Was Michael Pittman Junior in coverage.

(03:25):
Was Derek Stingley.

Speaker 4 (03:26):
The Colts one to flag. They're not going to get one.
It's a turnover on Down's.

Speaker 6 (03:30):
Final score on the rule Mortgage scoreboard, it's the Houston
Texans twenty and the Indianapolis Colts sixteen.

Speaker 4 (03:37):
That is Matt Taylor. That is Rick vent Sherry, and
that's the Colts Radio Network. This is your Monday afternoon
to do a lot of conversational venting, rationalizing, bs ing
across the board. Regarding yesterday's game, the coat now eight
and four. They lose to the Texans twenty to sixteen

(04:00):
in what was described by me and I think others
two as it must win, and now it's like a
double must win coming up in Jacksonville on Sunday, a
place they haven't won since twenty fourteen, last time they
won a division same year. So it would be nice
if you put the wheels in motion and got it done.

(04:22):
I want to start to show this way, and I
want to get all this out of the way. Regarding
Sauce Gardner and his calf. I'm not going to hold
my breath on this, and I haven't held my breath
in a long time with anything that is supposed to
be uplifting informationally speaking, regarding injuries with the cults, I

(04:44):
just I don't, I don't, you don't, we don't together.
There's no holding of the breath. I will tell you this,
whether you're still a believer or maybe now you have
sided at eight and four and looking murky incredibly murky.

(05:05):
Now even the postseason picture is now murky what was
once crystal clear. It's difficult to see now. But I'm
here to tell you that this has to work. It
has to work. Somebody better grab the round peg and

(05:28):
force it immediately into the square hole or vice versa,
because it has to work. You are I don't know
how else I can really put this to have this
type of impact that I want. You are profoundly blanked

(05:49):
for the future if you don't pull out of this
nose dive. That's the way that it looks, and we
all know most of the time, the way that it
looks for the Colts is the way that it's going
to be. And I said, well, wait, Manue, I looked
really good earlier this season. Yeah, that's only when it's good.

(06:12):
When it's bad and it looks bad, normally it turns
out to be bad. No, it has to work. I
was all for it. I was all for ad Mitchell
two number ones because I wanted to see them go
for it right now. I was all for it. So

(06:32):
I guess I'm just as bad as Chris ballor just
as bad as anybody else that wanted. I thought, you know,
what you add that to the secondary and clearly you
see what happens up front. Not much. I mean, hell, guys, hell,
I don't even know who was on the team. Put
pressure on the quarterback and dudes that are supposed to don't.
They're allowing such a high percentage of completions on third down,

(07:00):
moving the chains. It's really defensively gross. Think near the
bottom are at the bottom, and stopping teams defensively on
third down is gross. I's all for it, though, I
was all for it live in the moment, live in
the now. I learned from Tyree Halliburton that you're not
promised a damn thing after watching the start of this

(07:22):
Pacer team, and I was right there with anybody else
mortgaging the future. But it has to work, and you
know what, it can certainly work out better than this.
The problem you're going to have is and the major
difficulty is that of Daniel Jones can no longer move
like Daniel Jones did prior to the fibula crack or

(07:43):
whatever has happened prior to his crack, so he can't
move as well as he once did. That compromises the
offense because you pretty much know what is coming, and
teams basically will blitz all day long, and unlike the Colts,
when you do some things, they actually get there and

(08:03):
they're getting home. They're forcing Aaron throws. Although yesterday I
didn't think there was a lot. I mean, he could
have saved the day and he was unable to say
the day. You're gonna say that's putting a lot on
a guy with a crap fibila or whatever. But no,
it's true. He could have saved the day and he didn't.
When you're a quarterback like that, the expectation is that

(08:23):
you're able to make plays. That's why you're there.

Speaker 6 (08:27):
Now.

Speaker 4 (08:27):
If you're not, it's going to be somebody else that's
going to be there. But I will take pause to
recognize a group that hasn't been talked about a lot.
And there's a crap load of money, especially on the
left side of it. But mostly this focus is from
center to the right. Can somebody get this offensive line together?

(08:52):
The offensive line looks like, especially on the right side,
they're the ones that are completely unaware of how compromised
quarterback is. I think, to me, that's where it all starts.
I think it all starts right there. If this offensive
line is unable to do what it should be able

(09:13):
to do, then this team is screwed. You're gonna concentrate
on taking away Jonathan Taylor. He squeezed out eighty five
yards under incredibly difficult circumstances yesterday. Then sure, I know
his MVP poof has gone up in smoke right here,

(09:33):
but I'm not so much worried about that as I
am now about this team falling completely out of the
playoff picture. And you're gonna say, well, wait a minute.
You know you're sounding the alarm right there, red flag. Yeah, yes,
now's the time to do it, because normally we wait
until it's too late. I'm doing it right now. It

(09:54):
should be incredibly obvious that this team needs some thing uplifting.
And back to the defense for a moment. I mentioned
on third down they are allowing teams to move in
big chunks of yardage by the way on third down
and move the chains. And we talk about Sauce Gardner

(10:17):
as of right now not paying off and mortgaging the future,
and I like him a great deal, and I don't know,
I'm not at his bond. I don't know if he's
still messed up from alec Ogletree, But Scharvarius Ward is
like three steps behind everybody. It's almost like he's running

(10:38):
with leg weights on out there. Seriously, I thought that
the secondary was going to be able to force teams
into making mistakes. Now the only time the secondary takes
advantage of anything is when the opposing quarterback makes a
mistake or an errant throw, like you saw with CJ.

(11:01):
Stroud yesterday, who for the most part, had a pretty
good day in his return. You should have been able
to I thought, after him not playing for a while,
I thought you should have been able to shake him
up even more. But yesterday you were counting on pressure
up front that's basically not existent. So what is really
letting you down? And I don't want to hear about

(11:22):
the excuse with no deforce. Buck know, while it's big,
you got to deal with it. Their offensive and defensive
lines are stinking it up. They are there, and I'm
gonna put everybody in there. And I'm sure it's not everybody,
it's not on everybody, but I'm gonna put everybody in there. Collectively.
They are stinking it up, and you are screwing this up.

(11:45):
It's you guys, that's where all this starts. You know,
all the situation with the fibula with your quarterback. You know, teams,
certainly after the Pittsburgh game and then the Atlanta they're
gonna you're going to send everybody at you. You know
all this is coming and you're still unable to deal

(12:05):
with it. You know that the secondary is dealing with injuries.
You still can't put pressure on anybody. The quote best
defensive player in the draft year before last, where are you?
Where are you? Former first round pick? And Quey put
where are you? So that's going to be my major

(12:27):
focus offensive and defensive lines. Then here's the reason why,
because anybody in football always tells you, whether it's cliche
or not, that's where all this starts. Well for this team,
that's where it all starts, and that's what's ending them
right now. I think that you should be able to

(12:48):
put something together. I mean, hell, the offensive line is together.
Let's go protect your guy. He's out there trying with
a broken leg. Protect your guy, get something done. I
don't want to hear about how you're the future Hall

(13:10):
of famer. You play like your one right now, everybody's
excited left tackle getting paid. Everybody's feeling good, Hey, play
like you should be. I'm just go ahead and bring
everybody into the equation because everybody deserves a little bit
of it. You have to be better. It sucks not

(13:31):
having defensively deforce Buckner, but you have far too many
high selections. I'll be honest with you, Grover Stewart, they
were lucky. Grover Stewart's actually save seven and the first
half on a deflection. When you get guys that are injured,

(13:53):
you know, guys that are dealing with injuries, certainly like
Daniel Jones, you have to find other aspects where you
can make it up. And it is simply not making
it up. And listen, I don't know how deeply we
can go with it because this guy doesn't look like
he can move anywhere near he was once capable. And
that's problematic. And it's funny like the head coach still

(14:15):
calls it offensively, like he's got a healthy quarterback, or
he's got a healthy quarterback that you know doesn't fold
up under heavy pressure, which a lot of quarterbacks do.
Daniel Jones does. He has but to suggest he's not
going to get a great deal of pressure considering the
offensive line, and basically, now the rumor is out. Everybody's

(14:38):
bringing everybody this is something that this is not. Well,
maybe they will, maybe they won't. I don't know. You
better figure this crap out because this future looks ugly.
You were living in the moment, and I was great

(15:00):
living in the moment. Sometimes in that moment you have
to make an adjustment. Some guys have to play better.
Some guys really some guys that should be playing better
have to play better. So that's where I would start.
And I know it doesn't sound like this team is
eight and four, but let's just say it doesn't feel

(15:21):
like you're average eight and four team right now. It's
like funny when people say, well, you know they're still
eight and four. Okay, so what do you have you
not watching a month? Is that it?

Speaker 10 (15:32):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (15:32):
No, it's a lot different than an eight and four
on the road in Jacksonville where you haven't won since
twenty fourteen, on Sunday on the road in Seattle. After that,
san fran back at home trying to think, what do

(15:53):
you need three more?

Speaker 10 (15:54):
Here?

Speaker 4 (15:54):
You get to eleven wins? Correct, you need at least
three more eleven wins? Gets you in. That's that should be.
I don't know, somebody has to think of a mantra
or something here. You got to get to eleven. You
got to make this happen. And I know that it's
going to be disappointing because you had different sorts of visions.

(16:14):
But now it's just trying to make sure you get there.
You know, what once was a significant lead within your
own division and a couple of other teams that basically
everybody was riding off looks a lot different now. I
will tell you this that both these other teams have
issues too, and they have issues that aren't going to
go away, and they have issues that in large part

(16:36):
at times are not brought on by injury. I'm not
here to tell you that that injuries. You know, people
are gonna say, well, you can't make excuses if you
are eighty percent as a quarterback and you're limping around
and you're not moving nearly as well, yet there's nobody
else to put in. I mean, you probably can look

(16:58):
at that view that as an excuse, and then they
bring everybody at you. And even when they don't, the
offensive line, especially on the right side of it, doesn't
protect I would think it'd be tough to look at
Daniel Jones out there limping around and going, hell, we're
just gonna let everybody in on him. Come on, way
too much money, way too much thought, way too much

(17:22):
patting on the back, with so many still that are
out there participating right now, both offensively and defensively upfront
to have all this crap happen, simply put, can't be
going on. We got that for you two thirty nine,

(17:48):
ten seventy. I've got the text line that is up
and running three one seven two three nine, ten seventy.
And if you took that as all as lost, I'm
not suggesting all it's lost. Now is the time, like
I said, nosedive, and that's exactly what you're in right now.
Now's the time to pull that up. Because this is
what's interesting about this game and this time of year,

(18:11):
because you can turn the tables immediately, but you have
to do it immediately. You can't wait ass until the
end of it all of a sudden wish you had
done it earlier. Sunday is the absolute perfect time because

(18:31):
then Sunday, nobody and I mean nobody will be expecting it.
Nobody ell especially why this team is playing. So yeah,
if you're asking me, it starts up front with both.
I wish there was something that we could talk about

(18:52):
doing with the quarterback, but there's not. That's who this
quarterback is. Your quarterback is now a younger Joe Flacco
because that's exactly how he moves. So your offensive line
and your coach, your coordinator, they need to cobble together

(19:18):
a plan of support in that capacity. Not act like
we're talking about Daniel Jones playing Tennessee in September, because
that's not who he is and that's not who he's
going to be. I'll give him credit because the dude's
rolling out there knowing that he is absolutely plumb nude
on the back end of this. There is nothing else.

(19:43):
He's it and that's that. But you can no longer
treat him like he's the Daniel Jones of a month
two months ago. You just can't do it because he's
not and he's not going to be unless he he
has some spectacular means and measures. Regarding a sauce Gardner

(20:08):
is funny, and please, I am not trying to compare
myself to anybody at that level. I'm a clown. I
realize it. But the way he described his strained calf
was me back in June describing my strained calf. And
it does suck. There's a reason why I drove immediately

(20:29):
from Greenwood Christian High School right the Mike Landers immediately
I knew it. It's like somebody grabbed some wires on
the top, somebody grabbed some wires on the bottom. Because
you're back pedaling, right, I'm back pedaling too. Boom, gonna
pull it done. But again, I'm not holding my breath.

(20:54):
All right, they promise you more. They went out and
got more. And we've been all about Chris Ballard and
rightly so, over the past eight plus years. But their
dudes out there getting paid. It's time to start playing,

(21:15):
and especially with that old mantra of it all starts
up front, because the play up front has been complete
bull crap, and everybody in the world, every old school coach,
tells me that's where it all starts. And if you
watch this team play, especially through this funk that they're

(21:36):
in right now, that's absolutely where it starts. And head coach,
I mean, I know that you want to go ahead
and out fox everybody, out wit everybody, but maybe just
try coaching up the team that you have with the
ability that you have. Right now, you don't have Daniel

(21:56):
Jones of September. You have Joe Flacco that we saw here.
That's who you have. I don't know, I don't know
if I want to say that about Daniel Jones. Maybe
a little bit more mobility than Joe Flacco, but you
know what I mean, it's pretty damn close. I'll give
him credit. The dude can't move. The dude can't move,

(22:17):
and his coach coaches him up like he's Michael Vick.
Let's go because now's the time. Now's the time, quick break,
we shall return Hoosiers buck Eye Saturday. I've got passes
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(22:39):
I think I'm gonna be a part of that too.
Think I'm gonna do a little JMV takeover his kids
out there, had a little bit of fun before that.
I honestly, I cannot wait. I don't give two other nutcuffs.
I don't give two blanks about what Ohio State thinks
about this game, and their fans don't really care, and

(23:00):
it doesn't really matter. This is the biggest game in
the history of IU football, and I am here for it,
here for it. You know what, I will say this too,
I think everybody should come together in terms of all
these grandfathered college football programs that live in the world

(23:21):
of but hurt. Everybody should jump on the IU football bandwagon.
They are the infiltrators, They're the party crashers. Now we
all should be happy about that, no matter what the
hell you root for, especially if you're not a grandfathered
in football program. Paces later off tonight, we got to

(23:45):
bail a little bit early. I shall explain college basketball
will talk that up. Is it going to come down
to the Heisman? With a couple of quarterbacks coming up
on Saturday night? That coming up as well. Two three,
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(24:06):
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Speaker 5 (24:27):
Three to five, one oh seven by the fan, the
ride with JMV.

Speaker 1 (24:33):
You take drugs, Danny, every game good, so it's problem.

Speaker 3 (24:37):
I don't know.

Speaker 5 (24:37):
Ninety three five and one oh seven five the fan left.

Speaker 6 (24:41):
Sideline into the end zone and it is Hey cuts
for Alic pairs touchdown.

Speaker 7 (24:49):
Who covers nineteen yards in the back left corner of
the end zone? First score touchdown? D Why for the Colts.

Speaker 4 (24:58):
They take the.

Speaker 7 (24:58):
Lead over the Texans six to three.

Speaker 4 (25:02):
Matt Taylor, Voice of the Colts. Colts lose eight and
four on the road in Jacksonville. They have and won there.
The last time they won there, I think I was
around two fifty or something like that. In way, it's
been a while right, Well actually that was just a
year and a half ago. But they haven't won since
twenty fourteen, haven't won the division since twenty fourteen. So

(25:22):
if you're really truly wanting to change, I mean all
this bull crap we have to hear each and every
week about how we're gonna go in and watch film
and get motivated and stay focused. All that crap. You
just go down there and beat a team that you
haven't beaten in such a damn long time. And as
I mentioned earlier, let's go ahead and start on both

(25:44):
sides up front, offensive and defensive lines. And I've got
to own this. Michael says, this may be the worse
or maybe worse than bad. The trade for sauce could
end up being devastating. We will see. That is one
of the reasons why you have got to yank this
thing out of flush down the toilet mode right now

(26:07):
and do something with it, because that is going to
be the sentiment and probably reality on the other side.
And as I mentioned with the head coach, for goodness sake,
can you do an offense where it looks like you
understand the dynamic of your quarterback. This's not Daniel Jones

(26:30):
of September. And the offensive line can understand that too,
because they've stunk and we want to individualize all this
and everybody else wants to make it a team game
when they're success. But team wise, this guy's out there
limping around on a broken stick and it's not like

(26:52):
he's lighting it up. But it's also not like he's
not running from his life on one leg because these
guys can't protect anything. It's coming at you. It's gonna
come at you. The word is out. And like me,

(27:13):
when you guys know that I have bullseye passes, like
I hear from every of my mom's going, Hey, I
think I'm gonna call to see if I can go too.
Do I need a scissor lift for that? Seriously, though,
I think this is the easiest part of it too.

(27:37):
And I know where you're gonna say, well, they didn't
play a tough schedule early on. What I'm saying is
even in the moment you're talking about games like in
Pittsburgh and they stink, but you turned the ball over
six times, it was still one score. I mean, you
tried to give up at Lanta in Berlin, Kansas City

(28:00):
eleven points up in the fourth and the coach also
helped out in that cause. And then yesterday at home
against the Houston team, you're right there. I mean, can
you get a stop? Can you stop anybody on third down?
I mean, hell, guys got after the quarterback that I've

(28:23):
never heard of yesterday. But I tell you who I
have heard of. Guys that didn't get after the quarterback,
and this whole thing's upside down. Yeah, I don't care
when anybody says that I have to have this battle
each and every wesk not a battle. It's a fun
loving argument about how things aren't must win. Yes they are.

(28:44):
Cam Bindam told us as much two weeks ago. We
don't look at it as one game of the other
being a must win. It's every week, but also under
certain circumstances, some weeks are much more valuable. This week
coming up because you blew yesterday. This week coming up
is as valuable as any. But if you're asking me,

(29:10):
where do I start the whole blame game thing here,
it's easy for me. It's up front, both sides and
the head coach. I'm not going to blame a quarterback
that's limping around out there. I mean, you know what
he's got. I mean, listen, if he's not capable, put
Riley Leonard in which I don't think anybody wants to see.

(29:36):
But he's out there. I mean, protect him as he
is right now, not as he was in September. Hopefully
that makes sense to you. Stuff drives me nuts. A

(29:57):
game like Sunday is when we're going going to find out.
This is often said, and sometimes I think it is
just uttered because it's a time waster. It's like an
argument starter, a debate starter. But this is one hundred
percent reality. Sunday. We're gonna find out what these dudes

(30:20):
are made of. On Sunday, we're gonna find out. I'm
not necessarily talking about the quarterback, but we're gonna find
out what they're made of everything. You know, you get
those those eight wins, the first seven wins, shall we say, Man,

(30:41):
when you were in cruise control, it was easy. Everything
was going right. You're throwing back a couple of steaks,
some heavy protein after the game, doing a little party,
having a little fun. Now now it's business done. Now
we're gonna see how you work through the chaos of
how you've created eight and four and teams breathing down

(31:06):
your neck and everybody's saying, oh, here we go again.
That's just the colts that we know you can't be
the colts that we know. We're gonna find out Sunday two, three, nine,
ten seventy is that number. Let's get to Mike and
Brooklyn for his analysis to start this show. Hello, Mike, Hey,

(31:28):
jam Via, what's up?

Speaker 2 (31:29):
Yeah, just the usual. Uh for me, I got to
stop being more practical like you. But you know it's
really to me, it's just the whole compilation of the
same thing. It's really, you know what I think with
my heart and with my head are two different things.
It's just it's not gonna happen because, you know, Stecken,
it's the same thing. It's staking is uh. You know,
he's only interested in in coaching the offense. He doesn't

(31:51):
have the big picture in mind. All he has to
do is look across the other sideline to Dimico Ryans,
which came in. That guy is a head coach. He
knows how to win games. Uh. Second just wants to,
you know, give you the lip service of you know,
everything's good. We're just going to clean up a few
things and stuffs for me, and he's going to do
the same thing which he did yesterday from right from
the start of the game. You know, if you want

(32:11):
to do something different, how about you know, maybe just
start out with just deferring on the kickoff. You know,
maybe we could at least, you know, make a little
bit of an effort. How about you know, taking the
three points you know at home in a game that
you know points are going to be valuable. And then
even if you're going to go for it, your genius
has come up with a play where you're going to
put Tyler Warren in motion and he's got to get

(32:32):
a snap when you know it says, that's not overthinking yourself.
I mean, you got to be cute. You can't just
say to these guys, let's let's just run down to
the tail and if we can't get a yacht.

Speaker 4 (32:42):
You know it's you know, don't just say when you
go to the trickery right like that, that's when teams
know that they got you because you got to you
got to go to this and and and that's Shane
does that. And I know people are going to say, well,
you love it when it works, but it's massive, it's
massively embarrassing when it doesn't, because it makes you look

(33:04):
like you have to do this crap. Just stay competitive.

Speaker 2 (33:08):
Yeah, it's an extension of Frank Craig. He used to
do the same thing and and and that's where he
is where he is, and that's what really what this is.
This change Staker to me is just an extension of
Frank Craig, You're going to have the same thing over
and over again. Uh, he's not a head coach, coach,
he's just a guy who wants to call the office.
Him and Jimbob probably worked all week on that that

(33:28):
Tyler arn play. They said, oh, man, just like and
say yeah, I love it. I can't wait to put
this in in the perfect time, instead of being a
head coach saying, yeah, you know what, it's a nice play, Jimbob,
but uh, let's keep it simple. This is a big game.
I'm not going to roll the dice on some stupid
trick play when I got a big divisional muscling game
at home, I'm down by three, let me either. How

(33:50):
about just taking the three points and then when cambine
them it plays out the same way he picks it off.
Now you could go up and you could take the lead,
no situation. The football and all those those players on
that team that have been there for the duration, all
those veteran guys, they.

Speaker 10 (34:05):
Don't know how to win.

Speaker 2 (34:07):
I mean, they've been in a mediocrity of coature since
they've been in the league. They don't know how to
win big games. It's not in their DNA, not a
Stakans DNA. It's not in any of their DNA to go.

Speaker 4 (34:18):
Do you remember, hey, Mike, do you remember the early
part of the season, we were talking about this team
always keeping themselves in in third and short, you know,
and that's completely disappeared. Here's what else has disappeared. This
team never has the football, it seems, and when it's
it's almost like you go to a festival of the

(34:38):
nineteen eighties, a music show, and the Colts are the
equivalent of men without hats. They come out there and
play like one song and then leave. That's the Colts offense,
I mean it is out there for a second and
the Colts defense. And this is the combination we thought,
or at least I did. I will say I did.
I thought Sauce Gardner with that secondary would help them

(35:02):
put pressure consistently on the quarterback. What are they like
twenty seventh or twenty eighth and third down defense right now?
It is absolutely awful and drives are sustained. And yeah,
you have what we've witnessed so far, which is a
team that has made a sharp decline in the last month.

Speaker 2 (35:22):
And for all their genius, genius offenses, things. They're horrendous
third down offense as well. Not a good combination, horrible offense.

Speaker 4 (35:31):
I think there are three of twelve. Three of twelve
on third and fourth down yesterday were they know.

Speaker 2 (35:36):
And not been consistent through the whole. Even when they
were doing well, they were bean on third.

Speaker 4 (35:40):
Downs, you know, so the but we were looking at
because they were always in short yardage. I mean, they
always kept things. They did a lot of damage on
first down. Therefore, you know, second down was a lot easier. Hey, Mike,
I appreciate it as always, my friend, check in later
on this week. Okay, Bro, Mike and Brooklyn Two three, nine,
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(36:00):
on board, all you fans you can as well. I
don't know why the entire world's not rooting for IU
coming up on Saturday. The infiltrators crashing the party shouldn't
be there. Why are they there a strength of schedule
and not get in ah Ohio Stadium? Why are we
even playing the game now? All that crab I can't wait.

(36:20):
That is going to be a great environment. You just
got to hope that IU can bring a little bit
of something now. Granted I want everybody to stay healthy.
Of course we do live around here, so what we
ultimately know is nobody will stay healthy. Something will happen,
right kind of in that stage. Now, more of that

(36:41):
coming up. Pacers coming up later on tonight as well.
Coach Round Table five thirty tonight for that your calls
Stephen Holder in the five o'clock hour, Sauce Gardener is
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of that. If he does not return, that's and you
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Speaker 5 (37:04):
The Ride with JMV.

Speaker 4 (37:06):
This is your brain on drug Any questions.

Speaker 5 (37:09):
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Daniel Jones?

Speaker 4 (37:13):
Why hold one.

Speaker 7 (37:15):
Touchdown for the Colts Tyler Warren touch down?

Speaker 4 (37:19):
Hid?

Speaker 7 (37:20):
Why? And it's a gate up twelve for the touchdown
to Warren and the Colts are an extra point away
from paying the game.

Speaker 4 (37:27):
It's thirteen to twelve, Matt Taylor, Rickvian Cherry, Colts Radio
Network for future reference. That's how you use your tight
end right there, the whole direct snap and all the trickery.
And hey, that's great when things are running smooth, but
obviously things are haywire. It's chaotic right now, stop jacking around.

(37:48):
Stop jacking around, head coach. Now, you don't always have
to outthink the room. It's great when you do. You
don't always have to outthink the room. Here's the other
thing too. Like I mentioned at the start of the season,
you know, everything was easy and smooth, and there was
a rhythm going on, and we saw that and the

(38:13):
results bared that particular fact out. But make no mistake,
here's where the test comes to see how these dudes
respond with the pressure when things aren't going well. Because
it's not always going to go well. It's not right now.

(38:35):
You got free agency money, you got high level draft
selections up front, and the back end, whether you're talking
about a lot to or pay or ward or if
you're talking about the offensive line. I'm gonna lump everybody together.

(38:56):
I know it's not everybody. Everybody wants to point to
the right side, and that's okay, But how about everybody
because it's not like Bernard Rayman is playing great either,
So I'm just gonna lump everybody together. This is all
on you, guys. It's really easy to have those types
of positive results when you're on rhythm and fall. What's

(39:17):
much more difficult to pull yourself out of the funk
that you're in right now. But really that's that's why
ultimately you're paid at the level is because that trust
is there in either situation. And frankly, they have not
shown that since Pittsburgh and not shown that at all.

(39:42):
It's to me, it's it's incredibly disappointing. And that was
a very winnable game yesterday under very winnable circumstances. Kansas
City obviously through three quarters, and even Pittsburgh. I go
back to the Pittsburgh game where you turn it over
six times, score game. You had no business being anywhere

(40:02):
near that game. But frankly, Pittsburgh stinks. And the only
reason Pittsburgh got you was was a strip sack from TJ.
Watt and two guys on the edge getting after the quarterback.
Start treating your quarterback as your quarterback is now, not
as he was in September two. We'll see what these

(40:27):
guys are made of coming up on Sunday. Is no
doubt about that, JAMV. What are the chances Mike Landis
still has a pair of Adida's top tens you could
slide into well, Steve, I will say this if he doesn't.
He's probably complaining about the fact he doesn't have it
right now. My man in retirement. He's fun as hell,

(40:49):
but he is the master complainer, walking complaint. But we
gotta love it. Yeah, Sunday must win. Absolutely JAMV. So
we'll we've seen the last of Richardson. Probably JMV eight
and four team is very real chance of being eight
and nine. Uh well, if you do something about that,

(41:10):
not so much. But yeah, you're walking into it right now,
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Speaker 4 (42:00):
Yeah, it takes a six nothing leave you.

Speaker 5 (42:02):
Yeah.

Speaker 8 (42:02):
They started running the football and then they got that
easy out on seven yard out on first down. They
got the serad I mean they got They looked exactly
like they've been looking all year long. Beck shoulder faey
quick out on first down running the football. That looked
like Indian offense.

Speaker 4 (42:17):
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Speaker 10 (42:21):
Are you?

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(43:34):
of things. I haven't mentioned the officiating yet because I
just don't care as much about the officiating. Was it
jacked up? Absolutely? Bad calls? Absolutely. I more care about
what you can control or what you let me say
let me rephrase that, what you should be able to control.

(43:56):
Was it a level of jackassery? Yes?

Speaker 1 (43:58):
It was.

Speaker 4 (43:59):
Did it cost them absolutely? Is that in a rear
view right now? Yes? Is there anything you can do
about it? Well, the NFL do anything to these guys.
Probably not. I don't know what they do. I don't
know what they'll do anything. Frankly, I don't care. But
what matters to me is what this team can do

(44:20):
in Jacksonville now coming up this Sunday. Not so much
about the officiating. I would love to like if this
or the NBA, I'd probably spent three hours on it
because I love making fun of those guys the best
in the world. I mean, help these guys yesterday they
weren't the best in Central Indiana missed a lot of things. Yeah,

(44:46):
I know the technology they're reviewing. I mean, we say
we don't want it for everything, and then we do
want it for everything, and the whole PI thing, and
they're always going to be able. It was his name,
Clay Martin, the guy that was in the pool reporting. Afterwards,
the lead official talked about they're always going to be
able to bs with wordplay around it. You use enough

(45:10):
of the rule book to help it make sense, but
really you don't need the rule book. All you needed
was the eyes to see it. So didn't bring that up.
Let's face it. I don't know, even as ridiculous as

(45:31):
it is as having a placekicker in this era that
misses an extra point, but three extra points in what
Even as ridiculous as that sounds, I don't know if
there's a different or maybe I should put it this way,
a better solution out there. I think you just end

(45:51):
up kicking the can down the road. There's probably a
reason why these guys aren't working right now is because
they stink, or let's just say they stink worse than
the guys that are employed. So yeah, that'd be great,
bring them in, try them out. Hell, I don't know
what the criteria for trying out might be, but I

(46:15):
don't know if you're going to find any solution to that.
Right now, I'm concentrating on what you can find. Like badgely,
your solution is a hit an extra point, don't jack
up your team. There are still things this team can

(46:36):
do and do better, including its head coach. As we
outlined an hour number one. I got a lot of
your stuff to read right here too. You men, you
guys want to go to Bullseye like crazy. It is

(46:56):
going to be fun. You guys want to go because
of the fun and the pregame before that game, or
because you want to see what it is that I do.
I think it's because you want to see what it
is that I do. Thank you, because it will be fun.
Jam V. Everyone wants to try to be Captain Hindsight

(47:17):
with the sauce trade and now the injury. But those
same people were criticizing this organization for not taking chances
in free agency and trades. The fact is we were
living the nightmare that is losing games in the trenches
instead of winning them with the so called depth We've
heard about for years. That's Jordan and Carmel. Hey, I
will own it. I was all for the sauce thing,

(47:39):
and I would still do it because I don't want
to hear about winning next year and the year after that.
I don't want to like what I go through with
the Pacers right now. It's bad enough what I went
through prior to the last two years of the Pacers
that were it was bad enough. I want to live
in the moment. So you know what happens with sauce.
So you crapped out, That's what happened. I mean you

(48:08):
wanted uh all right in terms of sauce, James, are
you a sauce connoisseer here? And I'm not talking about
the alcohol sauce. I'm going like sauce. So you're you're
paid for the the is it called raw? Are ao raw?
You pay for the raw? And you got prego. I
can't help it. And I probably pronounced that wrong. Notice

(48:33):
I know how to pronounce prego or ragou, but that's
what you have, and not even so much as the player,
but you just completely crap out with the injury. If
he is unable to help, it will go down in
history as an awful deal. But I will also go

(48:54):
down in history as proclaiming that I was on board
with it. And I'm sure that Chris Ballad will invite
me to next Thanksgiving dinner because of it.

Speaker 11 (49:05):
Apparently it's pronounced.

Speaker 4 (49:07):
According now, That's not how it's pronounced where I'm from. JMV.
Mooney does not look like he belongs on the field
right now, Mooney show various. Ward looks up for his position,
and his level of play incredibly slow, and he's a

(49:29):
little bit in slow mo Kyle Anderson reference right there.
He looks like Kyle Anderson trying to keep up with
the Pacers last year. JMV. Concerning the comment from Cam Bonham,
if the Colts understand that each game is a must win,

(49:50):
they certainly don't seem like they play to like it. Well,
that is an issue right now. That is getting beat
and they're getting beat in a fourth quarter in Kansas
City for a lot of that game defensively by Houston
and with basically two dudes. In Pittsburgh and almost with

(50:15):
a similar situation in Berlin against Atlanta, they are bum
rushing the sets on Daniel Jones, and especially now because
his health, his stick has been compromised, and then Shane
Steike and the head coach like utilizes him like he's
the Daniel Jones we saw in September. That's not helping anybody.

(50:35):
I think the offensive line doesn't protect. They've stunk. They
have they've stunk. The defensive line has stunk. I'll give
Grovers to it some credit. Made a play yesterday, but
laatu latu quity pay. I mean they had guys, two
guys get sacks yesterday. You had to look up on
the roster. How the hell's that happened? Where's your dudes,

(50:56):
where's the best player on the draft two years ago?
Defensively speaking in the witness protection program, you cannot be
I mean this is serious. This is not messing around.
And hey, maybe we're there at the end of the season.
You put yourself in an incredible position, and then you

(51:17):
took some bumps and bruises. It's now time to pick
your ass up and play and do something you haven't
done since twenty fourteen. Win in Jacksonville and win a division.
I still believe these guys can do it, but the consistency,
really in so many different areas it has completely fallen off. Hey,

(51:44):
look like in terms of rhythm, they've gone from like
new addition to me Keith sweat to me. I don't
know how this has happened, but nine ten seventy colls
is Westwood joining us bottom of the hour or two

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and then hold her coming up at the five o'clock hour.
Danny canell tomorrow. He'll talk all you in Ohio state
the infiltrators. I love the infiltrators of value. I love
that now you can be whatever you want to be.
And by the way, too, I don't want to mention
anything about Lane Kiffin because we should not give one
big fat crap. Here's what you should care about is
not having to deal with that because the AD locked

(52:28):
up the guy in Bloomington, and remember it, everybody complained
about that. Oh I can't believe they did that. And
you know, now you're gonna be old miss Ay great,
and I know you're dealing with a snake and Lane Kiffin.
What do you expect? I just love I love watching

(52:49):
the SEC mess around with one another, just keep screwing
one another. That's not gonna work in LSU either, will it.
I mean, when you think about it, it work for
Saban there it worked for Orjon there, and it worked
for less miles there, like two of the three. You
go what I mean? It can work for you even

(53:10):
if you're not of greatness, but it can also go
haywire if you're not it. There have been some stops
along this lane Kiffin tour where he's not been it.
I hope it's this one too, right, two, three, nine,
ten seventy. Where am I going next? That is Cam
is going to lead this show in the four o'clock hour. Yeah,

(53:32):
that's where we are after four? Hello, Cam, how are you?

Speaker 3 (53:35):
Hey?

Speaker 9 (53:36):
What's up?

Speaker 6 (53:36):
John?

Speaker 12 (53:37):
Usually I can get on here and talk to little
pacers with you, but I wanted to bring up that
Colts game again yesterday, and I think this is a
guy kind of said the same thing earlier talking to Jake,
So I apologize if I might I heard that, But
I know you mentioned the reps for.

Speaker 10 (53:54):
A little bit.

Speaker 12 (53:54):
And I'm not one of those guys either that ever.
I mean, I've watched too many sports just like you have,
like you know, the best in the world. But when
there's certain things that are actually out of the Colts control,
like the clock running down and the miss pat where
the Colts have you know that's not on them, it's
the referees job.

Speaker 10 (54:16):
I just I don't understand.

Speaker 12 (54:17):
You watch football every Sunday and they bring in Gene,
the ultimate ref They bring him in the booth and
he's disagreeing with these guys. And as a fan, all
we can do is really watch and we can either
chare or boo our teams, or we can get pissed off.
And it is so maybe so pissed off yesterday listening
to them bring him in the booth, and I think

(54:38):
he overturned or whatever he did. He disagreed with these
guys on the field three or four times. And if
this was a playoff game yesterday, John and ultimately like
we might look back at this game and say, this
is one of the reasons, you know, this could screw
the Colts up in the playoffs that they make it.

Speaker 10 (54:54):
But if this was a playoff game yesterday, I think that.

Speaker 12 (54:57):
Those would be the leading topics. Either the Colts shot
themselves in the foot or not, the missed pat call maybe,
or the clock running out or maybe the passer in
Finns call. I feel those would be the leading talking
points well.

Speaker 10 (55:09):
In the game.

Speaker 4 (55:10):
And what's funny Kim. You see this the delay of
game Israeli. You have to go like three seconds when
the clock runs out for these guys to make a
move on that. The pass interference was just jacked up.
And I mean you see this. You see that all
the time, or at least I shouldn't say all the time,
but you see it enough. Certainly, some some situations more magnified.

(55:34):
I just I tend to think if the Colts had
played better more consistently. I'm not suggesting they weren't deservant
of the win or deservant of the right call being made,
but I think, to me, there is more problem with
the way this team is playing and looks right now

(55:55):
then there would be with this officiating crew that was
a clown show yesterday, if that makes sense, because unfortunately
you can't do anything about it. It's like the last
two minute report of the NBA. All it's going to
do is irritate you. I mean, these guys have to
find a solution, and you have to find a solution
by different means, because circumstances have changed from two months

(56:16):
ago until where you are right now, and you have
to find it in a big ass hurry and That's
why I tend not to too much put the onus
of my effort today on I guess talking about the
officiating yesterday, I'd love to normally, but we're talking about
some dire circumstances for this team and stuff that they

(56:38):
have to take care of moving forward, as to you know,
talking about a bad PI or you know, a missed
extra point. I mean, no badgely missed an extra point
for goodness sake, So it just kind of seems like
that wasn't prioritized by me as much as the way
this team is playing presently.

Speaker 12 (56:56):
No, I definitely agree. I mean, the coach they the
last couple of weeks just I think in every aspect
of looks slow, whether it's I mean obviously have been
on the field much. Yeah, But I guess if I
can say one more thing real quick, when they started
off this season, you know, they were at seven and one,
eight and one.

Speaker 9 (57:13):
I thought to myself, maybe this is.

Speaker 12 (57:15):
Gonna be the year where they don't put themselves in
that position of when they play their last game or
two of the year like they've done in the past,
where it's been must win to get in and now
that's totally been a three sixty change. And if you
if you watch the Colts the last couple of years,
when they play those meaningful games at the end of
the year that they have to win, they don't do it.

(57:37):
So it is worrisome. I agree with you, because if
they lose another one or two, you're sitting on those.
I mean, I guess even more must wins, and fifteen
years doesn't do well with must win.

Speaker 4 (57:48):
Tim I'm gonna ask you this, and then I'm gonna
go ahead and put this to the rest of the
crowd out there. I think that being where they were
and then obviously playing their way out out of it
would be more disastrous in this fashion than it would
be had they just sucked from the outset. Would you
agree that would make it worse had we not gone

(58:11):
through two months of winning and feeling good. I think
it kind of magnifies the bad if you go out
like this. Would you agree, oh.

Speaker 9 (58:21):
One hundred percent?

Speaker 12 (58:22):
Because I also think about the team, the games that
they lost, the way that they played in those losses.
I mean, you could have looked at this team at
one point said they could have maybe been nine and
ten and oh, so yeah, I think if they do
snowball effected down. I mean it's gonna I don't know
where you go from that. You don't have any picks
any for next year. It's going to be rough.

Speaker 4 (58:43):
I thought you were going to do your David Coverdale
right there. I don't know where I'm going, but I
sure know where I've been.

Speaker 9 (58:49):
Well done, Tambell, I know where we've been.

Speaker 4 (58:52):
Appreciate your brother, Thanks, shall see you soon. Two three, nine,
ten seventy is that number, Brian Kelly says our Buckeye
fans allowed, absolutely, Really, what you're gonna be doing, BK
is you're gonna be admiring me doing what I do.
And that's just because I don't know what I'm gonna
be doing, but I'm gonna be doing what I do. Jamvi,

(59:13):
you know, doing what you do probably means you're gonna
be half and that may mean that evidently, according to
Jeremiah Wheatley, ray aw the sauce. Is that what you said,
James ray Al? How'd you pronounce it again?

Speaker 11 (59:27):
The site I looked up said it was pronounced rayo,
But I'm not here rao accurately, I said raw.

Speaker 4 (59:33):
So here is the question. I thought that that was
a tremendous line because the sauce in India has been
compromised from what I pronounce is raw to pray go.
Is that still a quality line? Even if I'm mispronounced
the high quality sauce Okay, I'll put it to you guys.

(59:57):
Still a quality line. Nothing wrong with Prego or Regu
or Kruger brand. But it's not Rao. The hell you
get that out of?

Speaker 8 (01:00:13):
Rayo?

Speaker 4 (01:00:14):
I believe that's a restaurant too. Is that not a
chain of restaurant and Italian restaurants?

Speaker 10 (01:00:17):
Rayo?

Speaker 4 (01:00:20):
Uh, the sauce has been compromised here it is week
to week now, No I are so we shall see
for Indie sauce. Quick break will come back Westwood, bottom
of the hour, Holder five o'clock hour, more passes for you.
We've got two incredible road shows this week where you

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on Thursday to start with our Larcenie bourbon locks and
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group online once again the legendary sports handicapper Michael Westwood.
We're talking about tonight's game and it's the Giants and
the Patriots. An astounding twelve and zero with his information
and is willing to release it absolutely free, free recorded

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hotline for anybody who calls it now eight hundred and
eight eight five two five two five. Let's welcome back
to the show, Michael Westwood. Hello, Michael, how are you JMV.

Speaker 10 (01:02:25):
Thank you for having me once again. And yes, I've
got something tremendous going on tonight at Foxboro at Chilette Stadium. Guys.
The Giants obviously are playing the Patriots. It's going to
be a balmy twenty nine degrees and thank god, I'm
not going to be there. I can promise you that, Michael,
I am in New York.

Speaker 4 (01:02:42):
We need some spirits lifted around here with this. Okay,
I'm going to.

Speaker 8 (01:02:48):
You a right.

Speaker 10 (01:02:49):
I'm not going to bring up the Colts. So I'm
not even going to bring up what happened because listen,
buy your New York Jets tickets. Obviously you saw what
I'm beating the Falcons yesterday, so buy your New York
Jet Bowl tickets.

Speaker 3 (01:03:00):
Yeah.

Speaker 10 (01:03:00):
Right, So listen, I have a question to ask you,
because I know you're extremely knowledgeable about the NFL. What
is going on this year in the NFL? I mean,
it seems to me that the teams that should be
on top are not on top, and those teams are
not covering either. There's twelve teams right now, correct me
if I'm wrong, are under five hundred. What is going on?

Speaker 4 (01:03:19):
It is the bizarro world or at least I felt
that way when the Colts were kind of riding the
proverbial high horse, which has since not been the case
in the past month, but it has seemed like it's
been a bit of a bizarro world, especially Michael. When
you look at the playoff picture.

Speaker 10 (01:03:36):
There's no doubt about it. You know what bothers me.
The public's getting slammed right now. I know the book bakers,
the offshore accounts, the sports books are all making a
ton of money. This is their biggest year ever. I mean,
you look at a game like last night, Denver playing Washington.
Every Tom Dick and Harry thought Denver was going to
blow that team out, and obviously saw what happened. But

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let me tell you something, I've got to get out
game for all off. You'll listen to tonight and it's
going out as my ready for this, Yes, my Northeast
game of the year. I upgraded. It was gonna be
my game in a month, but I've upgraded to my
Northeast game of the year. My record is absolutely astounding,
and everybody who calls my free recorded hotline right now

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at one eight hundred eight eight five two five two five,
that's one eight hundred eight eight five two five two
five is going to be connected to my free recorded
hotline and you're going to get the winner of tonight's
New York Giant Uh pitch, I'm sorry, Patriot game. It's
absolutely free and it's on me on my free recorded hotline.

Speaker 4 (01:04:38):
It is Michael Westwood right now, the legendary sports sandicapper
twelve and oher with his information. Man, he's going to
unlease that to you. Eight hundred and eight eighty five
twenty five, twenty five and you're digging this Monday nighter.
I can feel it. I can hear it in your voice.

Speaker 10 (01:04:55):
Absolutely love the game. Darts back. But then again, you're
going against the team that I mean, they're just a
dominating team. The Paths are going to go the distance
this year. I'm not sure if they're going to be
in the super Bowl. But the bottom line is, you
know what's been going on in the NFL, anything can
happen this evening. We do a lot of research, we
do a lot of studying, and usually we don't even

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play on Monday night. I was nine to two this
past weekend with the college and the NFL. But tonight
is absolutely incredible. And I want everybody to play the
game the way that I tell them to play the game.
It's free. It's on my free recorded hotline again, JMV.
All they have to do is dial one eight hundred
eight eight five two five two five again. That's one

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eight hundred eight eight five two five two five. Get
the information on tonight's game, get the winner, and give
us a call back tomorrow and maybe we could do
some business.

Speaker 4 (01:05:45):
Yeah, the Giants and Patriots. You can check that out
with Michael Westwood again. One eight hundred eight eight five
two five two five, Michael, every Monday afternoon with us
right here on the fan. Again, one more time number
for everybody, Michael, before you go.

Speaker 10 (01:06:02):
Once again, it's one eight hundred eight eight five two
five two five on my free recorded hotline. The phones
are ringing off the hook right now, JMV. Thanks for
having me once you.

Speaker 4 (01:06:12):
Got it, Michael. Michael Westwood right there, eight hundred and
eight eighty five two five two five, and his phones
were evidently ringing. I heard him in the background right there.
Good good for us. Uh Raos is a famous Italian
restaurant in New York City. Reservation is almost impossible to

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get famous for being frequented by Italian mobsters. I believe squid.
While we're on the sauce. Raos was in the film
Wolf of Wall Street, didn't uh, Jordan belfour meet uh
the big time private eye, the investigator. What's his name?

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That was in the subway commercials inside that Raos location?
Bow Diedle was his name? What Boddel? And was it
Arby's or subway commercials? Bo Deedle one of the two.
I can't keep track of Arby's anymore because now they're
the place for steak. I had no idea.

Speaker 11 (01:07:16):
I believe it was Arby's.

Speaker 4 (01:07:17):
Army's. Is Arby's now the place for steak?

Speaker 11 (01:07:23):
I didn't even the little steaks pieces of the steak bites, Yeah,
I haven't tried them.

Speaker 4 (01:07:29):
I'm going to say this, if anybody's out there right
now and you have a restaurant, should you start calling
your meats proteins?

Speaker 11 (01:07:38):
That's a that's a little bit of a vague wording.
That would kind of make me a little concern.

Speaker 4 (01:07:42):
Well, that means you're watching what you eat protein. Right,
I'm eating pro what's your protein? We're gonna put protein off?
Some do already? What protein do you like salmon? What protein?
Would you like a steak?

Speaker 11 (01:07:56):
I guess that's fair chicken. Maybe just because it's a
drive restaurant. If they stop referring to it as meat
and start referring it to it as protein, protein, I'm
going to start thinking, well, what exactly is the protein?

Speaker 4 (01:08:09):
So in thinking if they're rolling up off of sixty
seven of the Rby's in Mooresville, that they're not going
to ask for protein, they're going to ask for Yeah,
I was.

Speaker 11 (01:08:19):
I wouldn't imagine they refer to it as protein.

Speaker 4 (01:08:24):
So well done. Hey, by the way, congratulations to all
of our high school football state champions, A job well done.
And really for the participation. And I love the way
that everybody around here makes that those two days downtown,
whether it's Friday or Saturday, just legendary and you make
that a yearly event, which is cool as hell. I

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know everybody was excited about Cascade and the sheeting action
was big time. Obviously newpal you know Brownsburg again, South Putt.
I think Dwanger was in there. I know Ron Cally

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who but one hell of a Friday. And although other
than the Channel thirteen and I don't watch it and really,
I'm not going to make light of or debate about
somebody's lighting of a tree that's not a tree, that's
actually a monument downtown. But apparently Channel thirteen jack got

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up big time on Friday. I was not watching. Did
they jacket up? Anybody know? Anybody watching the lighting of
the monument? And evidently poor Chuck, Chuck came out act
out of retirement and then he's right there having to
deal with that. That sucks. I'm assuming that is Channel

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thirteen still going to be a part of fifty nine
and CBS four. Maybe that will allow them to get
their act together. Or here's what you can do, Channel thirteen,
just let Lindsey do it all. Let Lindsay do everything,
and then it won't be jacked up. Instead of getting
everybody else involved, all the twelve year old characters and

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those behind the scenes that are running the board from
out of market, those employed by Tegna to screw stuff up,
you joined the fifty nine broadcast people and maybe that'll help.
Shout out to Chuck. I love Chuck, though Chuck out

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of retirement to do that and then they messed everything up.
Come on by two, three, nine, ten, seventy. I owe
some calls to some folks right here. Let's go with
Bill Online to Bill, Welcome to the show. How are you,
jam v?

Speaker 3 (01:10:52):
How are you doing today?

Speaker 11 (01:10:53):
Bill?

Speaker 4 (01:10:53):
I couldn't be any better.

Speaker 3 (01:10:55):
Hey. Then you know Bo Diedle was in the movie Goodfellas.
He was he was He was the undercover cops that
confronted Henry Hill when they surrounded his house after the
baby says.

Speaker 4 (01:11:07):
He was, Oh yeah, yeah, I'll blow your head off
is what he said.

Speaker 10 (01:11:12):
Right?

Speaker 4 (01:11:12):
That was he in a That was a hell of
a quote.

Speaker 3 (01:11:14):
So he was.

Speaker 4 (01:11:15):
Was he in anything else other than Goodfellas and The
Wolf of Wall Street?

Speaker 3 (01:11:22):
Probably probably had a couple other roles.

Speaker 4 (01:11:25):
How do you land on Arby's commercial? That's incredible.

Speaker 10 (01:11:28):
Well, he was also a.

Speaker 3 (01:11:30):
Regular on The Dynamics Show when don Imus was still alive,
and they did they did like a broadcast and everything together.

Speaker 4 (01:11:37):
So he really stepped by it for a second. James
has some information for us, James. He was also in
The Irishman. So that's three Scorsese flicks. I have not
seen The Irishman yet.

Speaker 11 (01:11:47):
It's okay.

Speaker 4 (01:11:48):
I have seen Kill the Irishman, which is a film.
Another film familiar I'll forget what that is. Takes place
in Cleveland, kill the irishman. I think that's what it's called. Anyway,
go ahead, Bill, we're off track.

Speaker 3 (01:12:01):
And that Cleveland is going to have tonight is going
to be without about up to six players, and the
Pacers are have got at least five players that are
not playing at TJ McConnell. And what a relief it
was to see him on the court.

Speaker 4 (01:12:17):
Yeah, I mean, was he changed the entire There's so
much better. You know, it's funny and I have to
hear this all the time, and I'm sure you probably
hear this too. People say, hey, you know, what do
you think they can get out of TJ McConnell. I've
got a couple of questions here. Why would you want
to trade if you believe that you jump back on
next season, this is a gap year you jump back on.

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Why would you want to trade probably your greatest off
the bench asset that works perfectly within your scheme of things,
especially on the offensive end, Why would you want to
do that? And then I would argue, how many other
teams out there, and I know they all try to
play fast now with pace, but how many the teams

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would benefit from having McConnell come off the bench. He
is perfect here. I've never understood why people always want
a toy with trying to get rid of him. He
is a perfect fit off the bench here, especially if
you consider this season or describe it as a gap year. Perfect.

Speaker 3 (01:13:21):
He is number one that they should not get rid
of him, and number two, he elevates other players to
the extent where where now that Obie toppens out. Until
the All Star Break, it looked like Walker and TJ. McConnell,
we're a nice complimentary fit to each other and everything
and that that, uh, that experience in playing with each

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other on the court is gonna He's gonna pay off.
So I'm not writing off the Pacers at all. I
think I think the Pacers are gonna gonna If they're
five hundred at the All Star break, I'll be doing
cart wills down washing the street. But uh, you know,
I think they're gonna get this right, and I think
they're gonna get in the playoffs, and I think they're

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going to make a run and they're gonna do what
we do here in Indiana, and that's roof of the
Pacers in the postseason.

Speaker 4 (01:14:08):
Then Ah and Billy, I'm gonna see you tie breakers
on Friday, mass Ave, are you ready tie breakers? I'd
like belief for Friday.

Speaker 3 (01:14:17):
I'm ready for mass A, that's for sure.

Speaker 4 (01:14:18):
I got to have everybody today. I'm trying to get
Matt's surface from the former Hoosier to join me at
tie breakers coming up on Friday. Thursday. We're in Bartholomew County.
I'm in Columbus on Thursday at the garage. Can you
believe that? Columbus on Thursday.

Speaker 3 (01:14:36):
Let's have that bad a drive down sixty five.

Speaker 4 (01:14:38):
So oh, it's gonna be great for me. It's easy.
I just got on thirty one and I'll stop at
the outlet mall and get some nautica clothes, man, get
some cheap ass cologne, and then I'll head to the remote.
It'd be great. Can't wait.

Speaker 3 (01:14:55):
And I gotta say one thing about the IU Ohio
State game. And this is for the national championship. This
is not only for the Big Ten championship. Make no mistake,
and uh it is just an example of what being
able to transition into the times and everything. When you
got the ni O Money Transfer Portal, you got this

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you got that, and all of a sudden, you know
you're you're the second ranked team in the in the country,
and I think the value is gonna is gonna show out.
I think they're gonna you know, it's gonna come down
the time of possession. I'm gonna go ahead because I'm
a Homer and I'm gonna I'm gonna go with IU
and I think they're gonna win by three points.

Speaker 4 (01:15:36):
Billy, I will see you definitely on Friday, right Tibur,
I have not been there. It's new evidently a mass out, Billy,
thank you for the call. Bud Light Blue Friday is
on Friday. Larcenie bourbon locks, lunasill tequila shots. You know,
my first radio job was in Sipio, Indiana at Win
one O six w I n N Mount Vernon, Seymour, Columbus.

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Sippio is like right in the of that trio of
small towns. So Win one O six now is the
river one O six one, And that is if you're
on thirty one going into Columbus, that station sitting right
there oddly enough on the river. Actually it is I

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think the river one O six to one. The river
is a tremendous local music radio station. I don't know
who programs it. I don't know anybody there, but I
think it sounds awesome. I love it. They have a
dude that's a national show, MG. Kelly and the hit
List every Sunday night, and for some reason I end

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up listening to it. I think it is fantastically done. Now,
that's national, but they do have local voices and that's
what I have that deeply rooted admiration for. Shout out
to our friends at the River one O six one.
I've got a cocktail sample for you guys if you
want to show up there the garage on Thursday me
Brent Halferson, Larceni bourbon Locks, Lunas wiltequila shots. We've got

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Steven Holder top of the hour, Loletis on Sauce Gardner.
Am I taking the officiating clown show too lightly?

Speaker 1 (01:17:12):
Here?

Speaker 4 (01:17:13):
Should I have put more emphasis on it? Your thoughts
on that? Coming up on the other side, Colts eight
and four on the Road in Jacksonville have not won
there since twenty fourteen. It's got a change on Sunday
that and more on the Pacers later on tonight too.
It's ninety three to five to one oh seven five.
The fan.

Speaker 5 (01:17:33):
The ride with JMV.

Speaker 4 (01:17:35):
We're not going to fall for a banana and the tailpipe.

Speaker 2 (01:17:38):
You're not gonna fall for the banana and the tailpipe.

Speaker 5 (01:17:40):
This should be more natrue, brother should flow out like this.

Speaker 4 (01:17:42):
Look, man, I follof a no banana my tailpipe?

Speaker 13 (01:17:45):
Ninety three five and one oh seven five. The fan,
crank this up now. The kicker missed again. The officials
missed a lot, and the Colts missed a major opportunity
that they should have won at home yesterday, and they

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are placing themselves into a major hosing area, meaning hosing themselves.
Twenty sixteen is the final.

Speaker 4 (01:18:21):
CJ. Stroud upon his return twenty two of thirty five
two seventy six, cam Binam picked him off on that
incredibly erran throw. Daniel Jones fourteen of twenty seven just
a smidge over two hundred yards with two tds and

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he looked like a dude that's playing with a snap
stick of some sort, his fibula compromised, and utilize him
as such. And I'm talking to the head coach and
the offensive line. Can you protect his ass a little bit?

(01:19:03):
You guys? Mind he's out there. He looks at times
like he's on one leg. This is not the guy
that played in September. So protect him in the fashion
in which you did, or I should should not the
way that you used to. I mentioned Sharvarius Ward, who

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was not good his quote today would ask, and this
is Curtesy of James Boyd Hooper with me, ask what
he needs to improve? Quote. Just got to get my
mind right and my heart right. As long as my
mind is cloudy, I don't really play good all the time.

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So I'm just trying to focus in, lock in and
get focused, and I think I'll start playing better. Hey, Chop, chop,
now's the time. Let's get focused in. Let's get the
mind right. Let's part those clouds. Because what we witnessed yesterday,
and I like Charverius warn a great deal.

Speaker 3 (01:20:16):
You know that.

Speaker 4 (01:20:17):
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and across this incredible state of Indiana where evidently to
the north. It's snowing right now. I can't see because
we're in a box. But here, in a couple of weeks,
we're gonna have a window, an actual window. We're gonna
get in. We're gonna get out of this place. See,
you wouldn't want to be and we'll get to have
a win and I'll know what's going on.

Speaker 1 (01:21:03):
Now.

Speaker 4 (01:21:03):
The spreadability of wind shoolers Myer location instead of Indiana.
Stephen Holder Sauce Gardner other side. Should we put more
focus on the crap water officiating yesterday and a place
where this team hasn't won, different players, same circumstances over
the years since twenty fourteen. Jacksonville. Stephen Holder joins us next.

Speaker 5 (01:21:29):
The ride with JMV.

Speaker 4 (01:21:31):
We're putting the band back together forget it the way.

Speaker 8 (01:21:35):
We're on a mission from.

Speaker 5 (01:21:36):
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the fan.

Speaker 4 (01:21:42):
All right, colts are on table bottom of the hour.
Danny Canal tomorrow, I u Ohio State Saturday. Bullseye passes.
Somebody reminds me I'll give away another pair before we
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ultimate level of snacking and the spread ability tonight of
All Knights two with Monday Night Football the Giants and

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the Patriots wrap things up, Oh hoop, the Pacers Cavaliers
tonight from Gambridge Field House and a busy week for us.
I still try to figure out why, and we need
to have me out somewhere like midday on Saturday. Like me,
This would be a great cross promotion. Me and Pat

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and Dinny and Terry and Alison like me, and the
Home and Garden show out someplace midday and then I'll
go to Bullseye and then obviously big tent title game.
Are you Louisville hoop? Sauce Gardner's week to week status

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with his calf strain that compromise, the compromised fibula of
Daniel Jones and a team that is making a slew
slide right down the toilet bow. If we're not careful
right now in a place coming up on Sunday where
they haven't won since twenty fourteen, all does not sound great.

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We'll discuss it with Stephen Holder of ESPN on ESPN
dot com. He's on the Andy More Automotive Group potline
Culture eight and four lose at home to Houston yesterday.
I saw what you had written a little bit earlier today. Hey,
I'm not trying to hit the panic button at all,
or you know, the red flag being waved. But now
is the time to pull this thing out of a
nosedive because you position positioned yourself so well and you've

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basically given all that up right now. And you look
around this team, Stephen, and not a lot of things
on or off the field with health concerns are going right,
and you've got to stop this and stop this coming
up on Sunday in Jacksonville place you have at once
it is twenty fourteen.

Speaker 9 (01:23:52):
Well, you know you called it a noseedive, And to
continue the metaphor, I would say, you know they were
gliding along early in the season and you know, a
tricked out I don't know what is it, A seven
eight seven, you know, big jumbo jet, you know, with
all the bells and whistles, and I feel like right

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now they're on you know, they're on this forty year
old seven thirty seven I wrote on last week, which
was absolute trash without any TV, any any entertainment system
or anything. They're just trying to get there with one
engine running. You know, that's the difference. It is that dramatic.

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And I don't know it's a stupid metaphor maybe, but
I don't. I don't know that it is though. I mean,
that's that's how dramatic the difference is from where they
were to where they are now in the span of
one month. The conversations we were having a month ago,
think about them. The conversations were are they going to
be the number one seed? The conversations were, is this

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the best Colts offense ever? And think about what we're
having to talk about now, which is are they gonna
make the postseason? Are they gonna win another game? I'm
not saying that, but I'm just saying.

Speaker 4 (01:25:12):
It is Daniel Jones the future.

Speaker 9 (01:25:15):
Yes, yes.

Speaker 4 (01:25:16):
Are they screwed for the future because of Sauce Gardener? Yes?

Speaker 3 (01:25:21):
Sure?

Speaker 2 (01:25:21):
Sure so.

Speaker 9 (01:25:22):
Look, I mean we we we certainly are. The blood
is in the water. If you want to make, you know,
arguments that this is a disaster, you can make lots
of those arguments right now. Uh, they have to turn
the tide. And and that's really what this boils down to,
right they if they go on a if they go
on a wind streak. Here we're having totally different conversations.

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But I but those those things that are compromising them
are real, and I'm not blaming anybody, but they are real. Right,
the Forrest Buckner is not walking through that door on
Sunday Day, Sauce Gardener is not walking through that door
on Sunday. Daniel Jones, that is not walking through that
door on Sunday. They're going to have to make do,
and it's gonna be hard. I'm just telling you now,

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so buckle up.

Speaker 4 (01:26:09):
So I can tell you. I would suggest this. They
should be more capable to make do, which at times
this team in certain circumstances reminds me of front runners,
because you were kind of describing where you thought they
were right now. I described it earlier as like going
in terms of rhythm, they're in rhythm like new Addition,
and now they're in rhythm like me, which is incredibly problematic,

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especially on the offensive side. And I cite so many
of their issues or the root of their issues on
both sides up front of the line, both offensive line
and defensive line. And I know you mentioned to Forrest
Buckler being out, but I'm sorry, there's enough and so
many number ones and high dollar guys where I would

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expect more, and I think that's where the root of
the issues really with fish team and this spiral we
have seen recently start.

Speaker 9 (01:27:05):
Well, I think you can look at the Houston Texans
and take some or find an example there. Their offense
has not really moved the needle much at all this season.
I mean, they scored twenty points yesterday, right, I mean,
I don't think anybody anywhere is looking at that offense
and saying, WHOA, I'm scared of those guys. What they've
done is they have one with defense, and it just

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goes to show you. I mean, there are different ways
to get it done. There's no question about that. Do
the Colts have the personnel the Texans have. No, they
do not, but you are not wrong. They do have
a lot of money invested in that defense, and it's
not all going to DeForest Buckner. That defensive line is
one of the three or four most highly paid defensive
lines in the NFL, and so that suggests more production.

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They're not getting that production, and they have at times
gotten it. I think the problem is that it has
been hit and it's been there, and that is that's
just made a bad situation tougher to be completely honest.
So I don't have the answers. But but I think,
you know, they've invested so much resources there that yes, you,
you are, you are right to expect those guys to

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come through. Quit He pay a lot to you, right,
I mean, these guys got to come through, they just do.

Speaker 4 (01:28:23):
I haven't made a lot about the officiating yesterday, which
was crap water to say the least. Should I have
made more about that today?

Speaker 6 (01:28:31):
Uh?

Speaker 9 (01:28:31):
Okay, So you know I am not a big fan
of like doing somersaults trying to, you know, make that
the first order of business after a loss. But yeah,
I'm with you awful, no question about it. But I
also think I also think that we've probably gone a

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little too far.

Speaker 4 (01:28:53):
Not you, but some fans.

Speaker 8 (01:28:54):
Right.

Speaker 9 (01:28:54):
So here's what I'm talking about, right, So, like the
extra point, for example, there's this there's this sentiment out
there like, well, they botched it, And I think I
know why because I ended up hearing what was said
on the broadcast later on, and I'm in the press
box like you, right, so we're not listening to the
broadcast when I heard it later, I understand why there

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was this uproar because it was it was described as
this foregone conclusion that it was a missed extra point.
I disagree with that. I don't know that we can
say it was some kind of foregone conclusion. I would say,
we don't know. That's what i'd say. I think the
angle that people were looking at was not dead on,
and you can't really tell from that angle. So that's
one example. The pass interference garbage garbage call, no question

(01:29:39):
about it. But I would also argue the Colts have
gotten their share to it, evens out man, over the
course of the season. The officials are not out to
get your team. Okay, that is absolute BS fans talk
about it, and that's in such a way it's just
not true.

Speaker 2 (01:29:55):
Right.

Speaker 9 (01:29:56):
I think I can say, on the one hand, they
got screwed, Yes, I can say that, But I can
also say, over the course of seventeen games, everybody's gonna
get their share, and theirs came at a bad time,
in a bad situation. So I can tell you, man,
they missed the call. Human error.

Speaker 10 (01:30:13):
It is what it is.

Speaker 9 (01:30:15):
What I'd say is they had numerous opportunities to win
that game. You can't go through three for ten on
third down for example, and then make it about the officials.
You were three of ten on third down? Okay, Josh
down two drops right, you can't find a way to
get your number one weapon going, Johnathan Taylor. I can

(01:30:35):
make a list of ten damn things that they ain't doing,
so we can talk about two or three calls and
it hurts.

Speaker 4 (01:30:42):
I get it.

Speaker 9 (01:30:43):
But they're not a great team right now. Man, that's
the bottom line. And I understand there are mitigating circumstances,
but that remains true.

Speaker 4 (01:30:52):
Why does shame Steikin continue to utilize Daniel Jones as
if he's the healthy Daniel Jones we saw in September?

Speaker 9 (01:30:59):
Because he does have a choice. This is the problem
that he's facing. And when I say he doesn't have
a choice, what I mean is the playbook. A lot
of what's in the playbook is is built upon the
quarterback having to move right, and so if you if
you remove all of that, you don't have a whole

(01:31:20):
lot to work with. So I think he's trying to
find this line. And I asked him about this earlier, Shane,
and you know, he's trying to avoid acknowledging that it's
a problem. And I understand that I get why he's
doing that, but it is a problem. And I think
he's trying to walk this line of trying to call

(01:31:40):
a normal game but also protecting his quarterback, and that
is like an impossible thing to do. It's really hard.
So I do sympathize with him and with Daniel Jones,
because it's an impossible situation. But I just look, I
think I can look at how Daniel played yesterday and
I can say, under the circumstances, that was a great

(01:32:01):
performance in context, right, meaning a guy with a for
all we know, for what we understand, a fraction sigula,
and playing against the number one defense in the NFL, Right,
I mean, like, what were your expectations? They couldn't have
been more than that. However, we also can admit that
he is compromised. It's true, but look, this is what

(01:32:24):
they got. Riley Leonard is not going to play period,
full stop. That is not going to happen. I'm telling
you now, one thousand percent. Unless this injury became much worse,
that is not even a topic of discussion. I would
also tell you that Anthony Richardson is not close. He
has not even there has not been a discussion about
getting him back in practice just yet a very delicate injury,

(01:32:48):
A broken face, that's what he had. So this is
what they got, and they got a roll with Daniel Jones.

Speaker 4 (01:32:55):
Lance's interesting. Everybody used to tell me I had a
broken face too, Were they wrong? I still had to
go out and do stuff with it. But now it's
Stephen Holder VESP and ESPN dot comies on the Eddie
Moore Automotive Group potline. So I saw what Charvarius Ward
said about you know, the clouds have to clear and
he's got to be focused and locked in. Is he

(01:33:16):
talking about still being cloudy from the Alec the the
ogle Tree hit that sent him on the IR or
is he just cloudy in general because the one thing
he looks like in this cloud cover is incredibly slow
compared to what we're used to.

Speaker 3 (01:33:34):
Yeah, I don't.

Speaker 9 (01:33:34):
I don't think it's about the concussion. I think he
I think he's just got a lot going on and
I think he is getting at him being unfocused yesterday. Now,
some of that, I might I might say was was
due to his role changing right then and there on
the first series of the game. You know, they have

(01:33:55):
been in this situation where they're going, I believe it,
sauce Gardener on the right side of the defense and
Servarius on the on the left side, and they can
just sort of be static and keep those guys there
and not have to worry about, Hey, who's got the
number one receiver and chasing him all over the field,
which is exhausting. Right. Well, they immediately as sauce Gardner

(01:34:19):
went down, had to flip the switch and say, all right, now, Ward,
you've got Nico Collins and he's yours all day.

Speaker 10 (01:34:28):
Well he was.

Speaker 9 (01:34:30):
He was putting them through the ringer, chasing that guy
all over the field. I mean, it's a tough assignment,
no question about it, right, And I just think it
took a toll and and maybe he lost focus in
the course of that. I mean, I'm I'm paraphrasing, or
I guess I'm extrapolating. I should say based on what
Ward was saying, but that's kind of how I interpreted.
So he's got to pull it together. And he did

(01:34:54):
say he said I didn't play well enough. Now I
think he's a good player. I think I think he
can be what they expect him to be. But this
has also not been the year that he drew it
up to be you know, that concussion for example, and
then he'd been banged up at other moments as well.
I just think it's been a lot. It's been a

(01:35:15):
tough year overall for him, and you know, I just
don't know that he's dealt with it as best as
he hoped.

Speaker 4 (01:35:22):
All right, Sauce Gardner Stephen Hilda by the Ways on
Andy Moore automotive Croup plot line, Sauce Gardner described as
week to week. Now, Listen, we've both been down this
path with the Colts before and week to week stuff.
So I'm not holding my breath on any of it.

Speaker 10 (01:35:35):
Are you?

Speaker 4 (01:35:36):
Will you hold your breath?

Speaker 9 (01:35:39):
No, not hold my breath, I will say, I don't.
I'm not ruling it out. Here's why. So I don't
know that this is exactly true. But this is a
similar situation to what we saw was Kenny Moore earlier
this season, where we thought he had the achilles tear.

Speaker 4 (01:35:58):
He did not.

Speaker 9 (01:35:59):
It turns out it was I think that was more
of a calf slash achilles strain. This one. They're saying
it's much more the calf and not the achilles. But
my point is it's in that that region, you know,
so you've got to be careful. And if I'm not mistaken,

(01:36:19):
Kenny Moore missed three weeks, so I don't know if
that's sort of a guiding light, you know, to use
in this situation. Maybe at least at some point of reference,
so we'll see. I mean, stiking with adamant that he
will be back before the end of the season. Of
course that is a projection, right, so ultimately no one

(01:36:42):
can hold him to that because there's no way to
absolutely positively know that right now.

Speaker 4 (01:36:47):
Was there a reason to be critical of Shane Steyking
and his coaching, Well, I think.

Speaker 9 (01:36:55):
It's there to ask questions. That's fine. I know I've
got to see how this ends.

Speaker 4 (01:37:00):
Say but as I have been and well, that's fine.

Speaker 9 (01:37:03):
I don't think. I don't think you're out of line.
I mean, ultimately, even though look we've outlined all the
things that are not within their control, you know, those
those things are are there. But I mean, ultimately, he
had a lot of answers early in the season. Offensively,
you know, he had a lot of answers. Their execution

(01:37:25):
was better all those things, and I just think it's
it's very clear to see that they're not getting the
same kind of performance and the same kind of outcomes
right now. You have to start somewhere, and I think
you go to the coach. He's at least a part
of the question or the what.

Speaker 4 (01:37:44):
Do you think the biggest issue might be if you
were putting together? Because I talked about obviously, you know,
out foxing out smarting yourself as we've seen, and you know,
it does work both ways. I mean, when you come
up with a play and it's a surprise call, it's great,
but you know, the whole snap, the direct slap, snap,
the Tyler Warren like, I'm thinking, you know, there may

(01:38:07):
be a time in place for that, but with the
way this team is working right now, it didn't seem
like it's it. And you know, again it brings up
questions as to you know, why you're constantly trying to
outsmart yourself. It's almost like at times the bad outweighs
the good, if you know what I mean.

Speaker 9 (01:38:24):
So, so here's a theory that I have. I believe
very strongly that it's very different when you are coaching
with the upper hand versus when you are trying to
respond to what's happening and it's slipping away. So let
me explain what I mean by that. Early in the season,
they were scoring just like gangbusters in the first quarter,

(01:38:48):
their first their opening drives were crushing it right. Lately
they have had a lot of hiccups on those opening drives,
and that is interesting because that is where saying styching
often is that it best on those scripted early drives.
He is very good at that. That is one of
his strengths. And he was coming up with some haymakers

(01:39:09):
that right out of the gate were really, you know,
throwing knockout punches, and that has been less true in
recent games, whether it's because of penalties, drops, or just
some sort of lack of execution. They've had a lot
of miscues early in games. So he has found himself
now either playing sort of nip and tuck or trailing

(01:39:33):
and that kind of thing. And then it puts you
as a play caller in a much different situation. Now
the defense has a little upper hand on you. When
when the defense was on the defensive. I know that
sounds stupid, but like when the defensive coordinators were on
the defensive and trying to find answers to kind of,

(01:39:53):
you know, to kind of stem the flow. Then you know,
Saint Stecken was in a really strong position and he
could he could throw more things at you. But I
just think right now that's not the case. The other
thing is, frankly, they haven't executed as well. They just haven't.
The penalties have been a problem, just and stupid stuff

(01:40:14):
a lot of times. Right It's like somebody's not on
the line of scrimmage. It's false starts, it's drops. It's
just they have not been crisp at all. And I
think that also has to do with coaching too. You've
got to get the best out of your guys, and
he's got to figure out a way to do that.

Speaker 4 (01:40:33):
Are they going to be trying out place kickers? I
always thought you get this late unless somebody's injured. It's
almost better off if you try to work with the
dynamic you have, compared to going out there and holding
a tryout and hoping you're going to find something else,
because clearly, if you had something else, that option would
already be there, or that person would be on somebody
else's team. But will they go through that process this week?

Speaker 9 (01:40:57):
I think it's trending in that way. Yes, I'm waiting
to see today's transactions. I haven't seen them just yet,
but when they do come out, I'm interested to see
if we find out there were some there were some
tryouts today. They have talked about it for sure, that
I can tell you, and so I will just give

(01:41:18):
you my personal opinion on it. I agree with you
for the most part. I don't think you should be
overly reactive right to poor performance. However, I think you've
got to have a baseline, and three missed extra points
in a month and a half is too many for me.
It's just too many. I think that is where I

(01:41:41):
probably draw the line, because frankly, we can talk about,
you know, the miss calls, we can talk about all
that stuff. They if he doesn't miss the extra point,
it's a three point game and not a four point game.

Speaker 4 (01:41:54):
At the end.

Speaker 9 (01:41:55):
I'm not saying they figure out a way to finish
the drive. But you certainly have a different mindset and
it feels more doable, right. You manage your timeouts differently,
everything's different, right, So I just think that's a big deal.
To me, that's just a really big deal. That's that
has to be like a free throw. You know at

(01:42:15):
this level, it just does. I get that it's longer
than it used to be. I understand that. But with
the way kickers are kicking in today's game, and with
the you know, with the the rules, the way they've changed,
with the ball preparation and all that, we're seeing record
field goal length, right, So a thirty three yard field
goal has to be damn near automatic.

Speaker 2 (01:42:36):
Man.

Speaker 4 (01:42:37):
They need deforce Buckner and his presence in a big
hurry too. That also disappoints me. We hear like you
have to look up dudes making plays along the defensive
line on the roster, and the dudes that you know
by heart really aren't doing much of anything. That's problematic.

Speaker 9 (01:42:56):
Yeah, And I think on and on the other side,
the other the team, the opponent's defenses are now gaining
an upper hand. So this this compounds the problem. They're
gaining an upper hand because they see that they're not
reacting well to pressure. So for example, and I'm not
changing the subject, I'm just saying, like, this is the

(01:43:16):
this is the flip side of that, right, the opponent's
defense yesterday, Daniel Jones, I think under pressure, he was
two of eleven, so damn near all of his incompletions
came when they when there was pressure because teams know
he's hurt, so they're sending more pressure. The Texans blitz
more than they typically did on yesterday, and they know

(01:43:36):
he can't get out of it. He left the pocket
one time yesterday, one time, okay, and he is he's
absolutely compromised. So uh, it's just that's the that's the
thing that's the difference or the impact that pressure can have.
And the Colts, meanwhile, are not applying that kind of
pressure on the other side.

Speaker 4 (01:43:55):
That is Stevenholder of ESPN and ESPN dot Com, like
you out, they're and most around here searching for answers
and we'll find out I'm sure some things later on
this week, and it's going to tell us. This week
is going to tell us a lot about this group.
That's what I said a little bit earlier. It really is.

Speaker 9 (01:44:14):
I think we'll know where this is going based on
what we see from them. I only even mean this
win or lose, but like, do they respond, you know,
do we see a better effort overall? Do we see
a team that looks competent, looks like it can win
In January? I think we'll get some answers to those questions.

Speaker 3 (01:44:33):
In this game.

Speaker 4 (01:44:33):
Pleasures always. Thanks for joining us, Steven all right, you
got it, Steven Holder, ESPN dot com. I've got more
Bullseye passes coming your way tomorrow. We're going to have
a lot of them tomorrow, Danny Canell tomorrow as well, James.
Thank you, Steven Holder, Michael Westwood, you guys were fantastic today.
We'll do it again tomorrow with three ninety three five

(01:44:55):
and one oh seven five Fan Coach round table and
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