Full Show: Colts Name Daniel Jones As Their Starting QB For 2025!

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(01:18):
had crafted prior to the show regarding today. But really
the nuts and the bolts of it, you know, I
can handle because this is not new ground. This is
far from New Territory. There is a new quarterback. However,
it is the same situation, just a different decision, and

(01:38):
Shane Stikeen ultimately has chosen Daniel Jones. As we've talked
about before, I come from the angle of I was
over it all a year ago and I was ready
to reboot the entire thing last year. And everybody is
going to say, well, you didn't have quarter and quarterback that. Well,

(02:01):
I got news for you. You don't have quarterback this and
quarterback that right now. Some people had mentioned, if you're
going to do this, why not Sam Donald for example,
coming off the season that he had the lasting impression
I think of Sam Darnold in the postseason. I don't
know if that scared anybody off. I don't know if

(02:23):
the Colts actually thought that Daniel Jones was going to
beat out Anthony Richardson, because remember we heard all this
Anthony Richardson's doing this, and he's doing that, and everything
was made as he was doing and performing his duties
in the fashion in which he should have years ago,

(02:46):
and working his way up to I guess a third
year of understanding how to play the position, how to
work the position, how to prepare, how to prepare his teammates.
You know all this tough that we heard earlier today
from Shane Steichen. The problem that you ultimately have is

(03:07):
and you're going to have this had it been Anthony Richardson,
just like you have it right now, as is Daniel Jones.
This is no Hope City at quarterback. Nothing against Daniel Jones.
I don't know him. All I know is what he
has provided in the past. Well, it could be different here,

(03:28):
different personnel, things are going to be different. He has
been awful so far in his career, and as I
mentioned before, until I see otherwise, that's what you would
expect six seasons in New York twenty four, forty four
and forty one. So you go top five with a

(03:50):
draft pick at quarterback three years ago and he can't
beat out a twenty four and forty four and one
starter for week one. In the mind of the head coach,
this is what I want to know, and we're not
likely to ever know, but I want to know. And

(04:14):
people are gonna say, well, it's no, you're a business, Yeah,
my ass, it is our business. I think it is
our business. I think I think most of you, especially
maybe not so much me. I'm gonna give it up
to you. I'll tip my cap to you. For those
that you to spend cash, you pay for tickets, you're
already into season tickets for those that don't believe. But

(04:34):
you're still a part of it. That's disposable income. You
could be putting forth that effort anywhere else in the
world and cash is hard to come by. You're not
growing cash in the garden, but you continue to spend it.
I know a lot of advertisers that continue to spend
money and the return on investment, simply put, is not there.

(05:00):
So yeah, I think you do kind of deserve I
want to go around the room and find out exactly.
And I would have said the same thing had this
been Anthony Richardson. I want to go around the room
and find out exactly the thought, not just to the
head coach, but as the general manager and of Carly
Ursay Gordon. I want to know, was it you know

(05:22):
to be one? Was it ultimately just kind of like
the dictatorship there? And Shane Stuckett said, well, I'm the
coach and this is who I'm going with. Was everybody
in agreement because I know we hear all the time
from them, especially Chris talks about well, you know, pushback
is always good. You can't always be agreeing with one another.
I got news for you. What you all have been

(05:44):
doing for the past nine years hasn't worked an ounce, okay,
so maybe do the opposite of it, Maybe do anything
else of it. This is why at the end of
last year I said, we've seen enough. We've seen enough
of every every And at the time I was a
little bit more skeptical about Shane because he'd been here

(06:06):
after two years. But certainly with Chris, we'd seen that,
and I think we'd all drawn a significant conclusion with
Anthony Richardson at that point in time. And for those
of you out there that think this is unfair, maybe
it is, but you don't live in that world where
you tap on the helmet and that still means something.

(06:28):
There's still an impact of that within his team. I
don't know if that's the case. But you talk about leadership,
you talk about guidance, you talk about preparation, being skilled
at the line of scrimmage. I mean, we're talking about
all these operational things that hell, you should be doing

(06:48):
in high school. And Anthony Richardson can't win a job
doing that over Daniel Jones, a guy that's twenty four
and forty four one playoff berth, I know the completion
percentage quarterback rating of eighty four to three. So the

(07:13):
problem I have with all this, and this was going
to again be a problem anyway, but it's even more
magnified now is because everybody gets swallowed up with this
decision that it's not Richardson. I'm a non believer, but
I felt all along that he was going to end
up giving it a try, because it was a foregone
conclusion at some point that he wasn't that he was

(07:36):
going to be sub doubt, it was going to be
somebody else. I will give credit where credit is due.
I mean, they're looking for any ways they can to
be different and win. The problem is you're not so
much being different with Daniel Jones, because we've seen other
guys in the past that have come with a little

(07:56):
bit of name or recognition, and you wonder if a
situation is going to be better than the situation in
which they were in. And really, you know, other than
Philip Rivers, does anybody stand out whatsoever? To me? Daniel
Jones is like Gardner, Flacco or Joe Minshew. That's what
he represents to me. Maybe he can change my mind,

(08:20):
maybe he will change all of our minds. But again
I find myself in a very unique position. I don't
believe in any of this right now, none of it,
and it sucks. But the biggest problem I have, the
biggest issue I have, is so you bring in Shane
who is this tremendous offensive mind, and clearly when he

(08:42):
was hired, they end up selecting Anthony Richardson and Ballad
was on board. I don't know who was all on
board and who was it. I mean, you hear stories
about some over there who were and others who were not.
But you end up drafting Anthony Richardson. And I swear
to you, I think this is fair as hell to
say that. If you take your offensive guru and you

(09:07):
give him into year number three, and this is what
you can do with this raw quarterback, incredibly athletic projections
off the chart, this is where we are. This is

(09:28):
where we are. So there's something incredibly wrong. I mean,
they talk about the process all the time, and there's
something wrong with the process. If this is where you
end up, and that's I think what is so ultimately
said about this entire story, And again, this would have
happened regardless of any decision made. But you can see

(09:49):
the dynamic at work here. You can see those that
believe in Richardson with really no reason to believe in Richardson.
Why would you because he threw it six seventy yards
because you know, maybe once upon a time he ran
over somebody and actually, you know, came off the field
not injured. Because he looks like something you created in

(10:10):
a video game. That that's your reason, your rationale for belief.
Now I'm not just on you, but what about your
belief in Daniel Jones. Why in the world would anybody
in their right mind had a belief in Daniel Jones?
What has he shown? Under normal circumstances? You would see
these numbers. I'll give credit with Mike Chappell. He's the

(10:31):
one that has the Daniel Jones numbers up there. But
you look at these numbers and everybody starts laughing. You go,
what thirteen plus million dollars and a week one starter
and beat out a top five selection and all these excuses,
you know, twenty three years of age and just doesn't

(10:52):
know and then all the excuses that come when people
logically ask, well, what's this mean for Anthony Richardson, Well,
he's not done yet. He still has a lot to learn. Well,
if he hasn't learned basically sitting around in meetings and
being injured and maybe being benched and not playing and
sometimes playing, if he hasn't learned that enough so far

(11:15):
to beat out Daniel Jones in year three, he is
never going to learn that. So why do we even
have the discussion? Don't you close the book today? Other
than injury, you have to close the book. How can
you not beat out Daniel Jones in the eyes of
your head coach, unless there's something else to play? And again,

(11:37):
therein lies the reason why I would love to hear
exactly what everybody was thinking inside that room this morning
or last night or whatever it was. Man, it's not
supposed to feel this way at the start of the season.
Just a little bit of hope. See, now we're at

(11:57):
a point now where you can't even have a hope.
You can't have hope before labor Day. And we're a
week and a half prior to labor Day and we
don't seem like you have any hope at that position.
It is a crazy treadmill in which this organization is on.
And again, I think it goes to show you and

(12:19):
not to try to be mean and nasty and afternoon
talk show. Yip, yup, guy that just throws stuff and
starts the pot. Uh huh. You tell me if this
thing has needed a complete reboot. You can't even make
a simple decision in what is logical to half of
your audience, you know, compare it to the other choice,

(12:43):
and not be deemed or described as fou bar. I
got news for you, not my fault, and ultimately who
pays the price? I will give it up to you guys.
You guys keep going back, and that's good, but by

(13:04):
now you have to be just a bit worn out
with it. I kind of look at this. It's almost
like shen Steike in this decision is saying, yeah, you
know what, I wasn't any good either. Wait a minute,
I wasn't any good. He's not any good, He's not
good enough. He needs to learn. I need to learn.
I know. It probably goes much deeper than line of

(13:27):
scrimmage checks and making sure guys are on the right
spot and reads and putting the ball where it needs
to be. But you had the better part of two
years to install this this fantastic offseason where Richardson and
Josh Allen's quarterback coach, and I know that he had
the shoulder issue, but how can this be? How can

(13:52):
this be? This is almost like shen Steke and said, yeah,
you know what, I'm right, all this error judgment, all
this misfortune, miscalculation. Yeah, it's on me too, because look,
I can't even get this guy as a quarterback guru
ready to start Week number one against the Miami Dolphins.
We got to get a guy that's twenty four and
forty four career wise, and you got your fingers crossed,

(14:16):
and you hope that it's a different situation with this
team than it was in New York. When's the last
time it was a different situation for the better for
this group? Hey, believe me, I do. I trust Jonathan Taylor.
I trust some guys on that defense, DeForest Buckner, Grover Stewart. Listen,

(14:37):
I know we got some guys too, Jonathan Taylor with
Denver Grover Stewart in the past, I know we got
some guys that have also created an issue or made
a mistake. But I do believe in those guys, Kenny Moore,
Ward mine them free agent guys. I do believe in
those guys. But it is kind of fleeting here and

(15:00):
what you end up doing, and we're going to find
that out unfortunately at the end of the season is
you prolong the agony. And this has been an agonizing
process for everybody and especially for the fans. All right,
So that's where I am with the choice. But again

(15:23):
I will readily admit that we were going to be
talking negatively about this because there's not a damn thing
you can do about it. Because you saw as much
as I did. We all saw a lot of this together,
and you know, we're not in meetings, we're not privy
to all that information. And I'll be damned if I
saw that there was a big difference in one or

(15:44):
the other. Right here, you have a newfound trust in
one that he is not going to blank it up,
as you have seen over and over and over again
the other to do so much of this, whether richardson

(16:06):
two is internal reputation, and I will admit he's been
nothing but nice. I think he's a good conversation. He's
a hell of a kid, but we're not talking about
being a hell of a kid. We're talking about being
a hell of a quarterback and a team leader. I mean,

(16:29):
you kind of wonder if teammates, veteran teammates, if they
believe that Daniel Jones gives them more of an opportunity
to win than does Anthony Richardson, and how they feel
about this. They've probably been down this path, the veteran
guys at least so many times that they're a little
bit numb to it. But at some point, all this

(16:50):
has to stop. And the only way you're going to
get this all to stop is to be done with it.
And that's the point I was trying to make the
end of last year, and unfortunately, I believe that's the
point that we would be making for sure. And then
you know, if you have a season as we have
witnessed here in a recent memory, it will be a

(17:11):
foregone conclusion that everything is going to be over. The
problem that you have. Where's the line, like how well
does this team play? And then whether or not you
end up bringing people back and trusting what is happening here?
Where's the line? Where's the bar set on this? Simply

(17:36):
making the postseason, is it? I shouldn't say simply, because
nothing's been simple about that around here in forever. How
about if I say simply being competitive? Being competitive? Is
that it? I will take issue with this when you
suggest that Daniel Jones is going to be more boring
than Anthony Richardson. I think Anthony Richardson, I think we

(18:00):
kind of get swallowed up by the occasional big play
because it's been boring as hell. It has for a superstar,
incredibly athletic player, he and they have been boring as hell.
There's been no fun to watch none. I can't imagine
that Daniel Jones will be any more boring than Anthony Richardson.

(18:21):
And that of offense has been led. It's been boring.
It turnovers, overthrows, three and outs, those are boring, not scoring.
There's the occasional moment, oh wow type of moment, but
now it's boring. So I can't imagine that is going

(18:43):
to be less enthusiastic than what you have witnessed so far.
But that's once again where we find this team in
this organization. I don't think this is going to be
the case. Somebody brought this up to me a little
bit earlier today, And I can't imagine because I would

(19:05):
happen to think that the people on the stands, a
lot of them are probably cool with the decision. I
think it's those that probably don't go to a lot
of games. Again, I could be wrong. This is just
a judge McCall right here sitting before you. But somebody
had said, so, what happens when he runs out onto

(19:27):
the field for that first series and gets booed? I
don't think that's going to happen now. It may happen
after the first incompletion, but it's not going to happen.
I don't think when he's running onto the field for
the first series. Now. On the other hand, we're just
looking at the negative. On the other hand, if you
come out, you have the opportunity, if you're Daniel Jones

(19:48):
and this team right now, to do something because you
can get caught up and also performing in a fashion
in which fans have not seen around here in ages,
playing well in weak number one, getting a week number
one win, and there is no more must win for
everybody involved, every single stinking decision maker in that organization,

(20:11):
and the thirteen plus million dollar quarterback there is no
greater must win in the world than week number one.
And I don't want to hear a damn thing. I
don't want to hear any laughing and he's scoffing. I
don't want to hear him making fun of me. That
is absolute. And you know what, if you do, then

(20:32):
you have an opportunity early on to change the tune
of everybody, because that would be new ground. Again. Where's
the bar set? Is what I ask, and I think
we all understand the bar is not set very high.
Look at what we're talking about here. The quarterback that's
twenty games under five hundred comes in here and grabs
a gig and wins in a week number one. Hallelujah. Seriously,

(20:57):
that's a low damn baar right there. But it is
a goal that's attainable. But it's also a must because
you do have a splintering, I think now more than ever.
And you're gonna say, well, wait a minute, it's one
or the other, it doesn't really matter. Yeah it does.
You have a splintering, and in this case, you get

(21:18):
a lot of people are going to be just done
with it. So finally, organizationally speaking, they have to have
pulled the right lever, hit the right button. This has
to be a sound decision, because if it isn't, the
consequences aren't going to be. Yeah, little twenty two year
old Jimmy's pissed off because Anthony richards is not playing,

(21:41):
Or fifty five year old Johnny the Curmudgeon, he's mad
because Anthony Richardson is going in for his guy, Daniel Jones.
What you're gonna have is people say, yeah, you know what,
I'm gonna go ahead and keep my ass home because
this whole product sucks and I don't care anymore. I
don't think we have seen and early season as important

(22:04):
and as magnified and important as we're going to see
to start this one right out of the gate, whether
you're talking about Miami, listen, I'm keeping this simple right here.
With Miami. Yeah, we'll get on to Denver when it
calls to get onto Denver, but keeping it simple with Miami.
The bar is set so low you can go whoa,
you can give an oh wow delivery if you're Daniel

(22:25):
Jones right here, and really all you have to do
is go out and beat a crapwater team at home.
So all I got to do. I know I make
it sound simple, but damn it is. This whole thing
has been simple for a while. It's just the organization
that you love. They constantly make the wrong decision, and

(22:45):
hopefully this one's accurate.

Speaker 5 (22:50):
Now.

Speaker 4 (22:50):
We'll get into a little bit later on how many
don't want to see that happen because you don't want
the agony prolonged with this organization. I got news for you.
For the moment or whatever, some winning would cure all.
You need a little bit of winning. I need a
little bit of winning. I'm so sick and tired of
being negative about this subject. You know how great it

(23:12):
was being positive about the Pacers. I'll still have a
great feeling out of that. I could use some positivity
from this football team. So I'll grasp it. I'll run
with it and talk about it. But until I see it,
I'm not going to create it on my own. I'm
not going to fake it because you can't. Two three

(23:33):
nine ten seventy is that number? The text line is
three one seven two three nine ten seventy. You tell
me whether or not you believe this decision to be sound. Yeah,
Shane Steikeen actually just said, all right with this decision.
I have really sucked so far. Seriously, that's what he said,
Like me right here? You know what that first segment
really sucked. How can I not get the How can

(23:57):
I have this? You know normally they say, Jay, I'm
gonna take this piece of clay and mold it may
if you are worth your weight? How this is where
you are in year three with your dude right here,
this is where it is. You can't beat out a
guy that is twenty games under five hundred for his

(24:20):
career to start in week number one. You almost have
to take away your quarterback gurroo status, I think, don't you.
You almost have to take that away until further notice.
We may have to confiscate the quarterback gururroo status. I
will say this hopefully it is the right decision to

(24:44):
sound decision, because there have been very few here in
recent memory. It would be nice. Daniel Jones is your
starter conversation on the inbound. Greg Graystraw is going to
join us. Joel A. Erickson of the Star is going
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Speaker 6 (25:40):
I'll start off by opening letting everyone know that Daniel
Jones would be our starting quarterback this season. I thought
the competition in training camp was great by both of
those guys. I thought they both competed really hard. And
you guys heard me talk about the consistency and that's
really what I was looking for. And really the operation
at the line of scrimage, the checks, the protection, the
ball place at the completion percentage. I think all that

(26:02):
played a.

Speaker 3 (26:03):
Factor in it.

Speaker 6 (26:04):
Daniel did a great job doing that, and I think
ar has made strides in that area. But I do
feel that, you know, he still needs to continue to develop.

Speaker 4 (26:11):
Hey, he's done all right, Just you're not gonna say
that I get it, but come on, yeah, other than injury,
it's over. Tol Zine, Luck, Bursette, Rivers, Wentz, Ryan Richardson, Richardson,
Daniel Jones, thank you very much. That was BT with

(26:32):
that negative information for us right here. I just don't
get it, jam, But why not play ar now and
see what happens? Because they don't trust him, they don't
think he is good. I mean, think about that. You're
not good enough to get guys in the right spot
and call the right plays and throw it to the
right spot. Wait a minute, so who let this dude
be a quarterback? What the hell? How are you a quarterback? Well,

(26:54):
you know what, you really don't get guys on the
right spot, you don't call the right plays, you don't
work hard at it, and you can't throw it to
the guys. Okay, well how about quarterback? That's problematic? Aaron
and Minnesota is listening. Hey, by the way, too, if
you're on the text stream or the text line, tell
me who you are and where you're from. I like

(27:16):
to say that. If you're on hold, I'll get to you.
I have plenty of time. It's really Joeli Ericsson and
Greg Raystaw and then all of us and we shall
opine over the decision of Daniel Jones being the starting
quarterback in week number one. As I mentioned too, it's
like Shane Steik and going, okay, I have failed.

Speaker 1 (27:40):
Now.

Speaker 4 (27:40):
Christian Webb says, what happens if they do play well
enough to bring back everybody one more year? That is
a dynamic that some are afraid of. But I would
challenge this, Christian. I would challenge to wait on that,
because when's the last time any good fortune like that
has occurred around here with this football team. That's none

(28:03):
at the top of my list, I guess of things
to be worried about. I'm just concerned about, like five, six,
seven more years of waiting. Was it Tom Peenny that
told us the waiting is the hardest parts? My goodness,
you guys have waited forever. It's like our next guest
on the Andy Morrill Automotive Group pile line. He's got
a busy week, stuff going on today, stuff going on Friday.

(28:25):
Greg Raystraw joins us Daniel Jones. Was that a bold
decision by Shane Stike, And in particular, I can never
get this guy the way that he needed to be
so let's go get this guy that's twenty games under
five hundred on his career to start.

Speaker 7 (28:40):
I would say it was not the decision I thought
they would make. I'm not sure it's the wrong decision.
It's just I thought they would and you heard me
say it. I didn't think there was much that separated it,
too from what I saw during training camp in terms
of results of the game. Obviously, Shane Stiken saw things differently.
He's gonna go with Daniel Jones in week number one.

Speaker 4 (29:00):
Greg Straw, Yes, it's funny. What do you see? What
did you see out there? You were out there all
the time in Daniel Jones. Because I'm right there with
you now, I don't see much of a difference. I
thought when one guy sucked, the other guy sucked, and
one guy was good, the other guy was good. That's
what I saw.

Speaker 7 (29:18):
The thing that we have said throughout the course of
this is that I think the floor is higher with
Daniel Jones, the ceiling is higher with Anthony Richardson. I
did think that we had seen some strides from Anthony.
There were still, you know, mistakes that were made in
terms of accuracy. I thought Anthony looked a lot more
like the quarterback than in a much smaller sample size

(29:40):
his rookie year through a sixty percent kind of completion
or eight compared to the one that was sub fifty,
which is a do not pass go scenario from last year.
You know, if if there was an area in which
Jones struggled, you know, it was the deep ball, I guess,
and hearing.

Speaker 5 (29:59):
Kind of you talk in the open.

Speaker 7 (30:00):
This segment is just kind of putting thoughts together on this.
You know, there are times in camp the last few
days when I saw what Daniel Jones was doing and thought,
all right, this has got something to the Gardner Minshew effects. Yeah,
and Minshew led you to nine wins and it could
have been ten. And Jones brings something of the Anthony

(30:20):
and Richards some like ability to run along with maybe
more of the accuracy that Minshe brought. And again, I
think it's just you know, confirmation from the perspective of shame,
perspective of Chris and everybody involved that you know, you
need to win now and again. Winning for this group,
I think is ten wins in a playoff spot. And

(30:42):
maybe they feel that Daniel Jones is the guy that
can best deliver that. Obviously, everybody has higher goals than
that from a long term perspective, but it is you
need to win now, and that's the why I think
the Colts made this move they announced today.

Speaker 4 (30:56):
I think I know who the biggest loser is in
all this right now, However, how far off the pace
mighty guy with the skill set like Alec pierceby considering
what you just uttered with the lack of a deep
ball from Daniel Jones, which clearly is that of a
Pierce Forte right.

Speaker 7 (31:16):
It's one of the things though, that you know you've
heard people with the Colts talk about, is they feel
that Pierce is not just a one trick pony. He
is not as a deep ball threat. Obviously, we haven't
seen much of him during training camp because it got
hurt in course of the last week and didn't play
when he was healthy in terms of the first game.
But let's see, he's one of the things with this group.
I think there are some pretty eagy to define skill sets.

(31:40):
You know, Michael Pittman Junior is going to be your
first down guy, your physical receiver that moves to change
Josh downs is your space guy. As long as he's
healthy at amsterring. You know, going into week number one,
if Pierce is the deep threat, Okay, well, now what
else does he do because obviously you've been got kind
of that defined role in terms of the tight ends
where you know, you've got Warren and Malory to the

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pass catchers and Ogle Tree and Moiley Cox that are
kind of more of the blocking guys. So will Alec
Pierce lead the league by five yards in terms of
yards per catch the way he did last year? No,
but you know what, hecause several paths like that from
Joe Flacco too, So maybe we're under selling that element
of the game in terms of the offense going forward.

Speaker 4 (32:22):
Greg Grayshaw's on the Andy Moro Auto Motor Group pileline.
This team, at least from what has been explained to
me from those that spent every day at camp, saw
too many pre snap penalties. I think that's been brought up.
Is that kind of what we see in the blame
game here on that of Richardson, Is that what we
see making sure you stay away from those particular situations.

(32:45):
Is that the dialogue that Stiken brought up regarding getting
guys in the right spots and making sure they're in
the right play. And is that because we did see,
at least from what people had suggested out in Westfield,
too many pre snap penalties along that line during camp.

Speaker 7 (33:03):
You know, I'm not sure if I saw an overabundance
of pre snap penalties in terms of camp. Obviously, there
is the obvious Mitch Blissick blitz pick up, you know,
from the first preseason game in Baltimore that stands out.
And the one thing I would say is this, the
Colts are one of the least penalized teams of the
National Football League last year. And again that was done

(33:25):
with primarily exclusively, but primarily Anthony Richardson a quarterback.

Speaker 1 (33:30):
So clearly there is.

Speaker 7 (33:31):
The feeling that the offense, the operation runs smoother with
Daniel Jones as the quarterback, and that again there are
less mistakes with Daniel Jones at the quarterback. So whatever
those mistakes might be, that's clearly what in part was
brought up today.

Speaker 4 (33:47):
Greg we mentioned this being an indictment on Chris Ballard.
There are many, but I'm curious on Shane Steiking for
going into year three and not being able to even
come close. Literally, you're getting a guy that's twenty games
under five hundred and choosing him as the starter over

(34:08):
the guy. You know, one of the reasons why you
brought him in, one of the reasons why you drafted
him as well is you put the two and two
together and you're going to make a little bit of magic.
And now he's the backup quarterback in year number three.
How big of a failure is that for Stiking?

Speaker 7 (34:23):
I think everybody's on the same timeline, and I think
it goes back to this. Everybody is in win now mode.
And again, I don't think there are these massive expectations
that is simply to win more than you have and
that has been nine games and eight games over the
course of the last two years when you've had this
entire group together. And so with the moves that were

(34:45):
made in the off season to add major defensive pieces
in bying them and ward to add a weapon that
you needed at the tight end position in Tyler Warren.
This is again to me, and I have said this
all off season long. It is playoffs or bust. You know,
clearly the family is very you know, is aware of

(35:06):
the fact that there's not been a division championship here
now in eleven years because of how good. I think
the Houston Texans might be I'm not sure that is
going to happen, but you can still be a playoff
team and not win your division. And I think that
everything in terms of judgments is going to be what
the l wealth the record is going to be at
the end of this season.

Speaker 4 (35:28):
Now, Greg, one final thing, And by the way, if
you're on hold two, three, nine, ten, seventy, I'll get
to you coming up in a minute. But it is
week one of the high school football schedule on Friday night.
Give that bad boy some love on a day with
a lot of news. Talk it up quickly before I'll
let you go.

Speaker 7 (35:43):
Laurence Central and Lawrence North is the game that I
will have. We at Ic will have Rebuff and North
Central will also have Center Grove and Warren Central at
is number three versus number six, and again those two
have a very good chance of seeing each other again
in the regional round of the tournament. So, yes, we
are three days now removed from the start of the
high school football season, and I will see you tomorrow

(36:06):
afternoon at Carol Stadium.

Speaker 4 (36:08):
Yes, I'll be over there too, probably with more dialogue
similar to this, how about it?

Speaker 7 (36:13):
But we will put you in a suite. We were
close to alcohol. That'll make a little white.

Speaker 4 (36:16):
I like that, buddy, Thank you very much. Greg. See
you about so, Greg Ragstraw on the Andy Moore at
a Montive group Pieline. I do want to try to
work in as many of you as possible, and I will.
We'll have plenty of time. I got Joel coming up
at the top of the hour. Every time I say Joel,
I think about risky business. I've got Joel at the
top of the hour. He's gonna go out there and
buy a hooker risky business. Let me lead here at

(36:40):
two three nine ten seventy before the break. I know
Kenny's been on the hole for about thirty strong here, Hey, Kenny,
give us some input before the break.

Speaker 8 (36:47):
What do you got brother, Well, I'm starting to learn
that we need to get you a little hammered before
any kind of colts information comes on. Mike James, the
out you know, the outcome a little bit, get me
hammerd well, yeah, you got you gotta be feeling good
that way, You're in a better mood when it comes.

Speaker 4 (37:05):
I'm in a great moody.

Speaker 8 (37:08):
It was no I take that back, I guess you
are in a great mood.

Speaker 4 (37:12):
Okay, Well I tell you what, Kenny, you have called?
You tell me, hey, give express to me your mood.
I'll let you go here, And why that we all
should be in a better mood?

Speaker 1 (37:22):
Here?

Speaker 4 (37:22):
Go ahead.

Speaker 8 (37:24):
Well, I've been a Colts fan since eighty four. Dude,
I was nine years old when they moved here. So
I've been a Colts fan my entire life. And you're
not gonna get roses and gold like every season. I mean,
we're lucky enough to win a super Bowl and playing
another one. I mean, I feel blessed just to have
had that happen. But it just is what it is.

(37:44):
If you're a fan of the Colts and you love them,
they're your city, your guys, you got to back them regardless.
I mean, we can all throw a fit about the quarterback,
but let's be honest, it's not gonna make anything better.

Speaker 4 (37:56):
Well, no doubt these people around it won't exactly.

Speaker 8 (38:04):
It's part of the game, man, and we'll see what
he can do, and if he can't do it, then
they'll throw Richardson in.

Speaker 1 (38:10):
We'll complain about him a little bit more.

Speaker 4 (38:11):
Well, yeah, I think you got that, Kenny. Thank you
very much, all right, from what Kenny had to say,
And that was the brighter side of things. When we
first went through the whole Colts era. They first got
here and it was just euphoi. You were thrilled, You
didn't really care what happened. You had an NFL team

(38:34):
and that's all that mattered. And then when they came
in here with Polean Manning Dungee and that group, winning
became a priority, and then it was expected and being
consistently near the top of the NFL is what you

(38:55):
were told this group was going to be. So you're
not just making this up of thin air. This is
how they told you it was going to go. So
that's my problem, and they've backed up really nothing, But
they told you this is how it's going to go.
It's maybe not always going to be win thirteen games,

(39:16):
but constantly one of the best organizations and competitive. And
I think we can all understand here in the past
how many years now, one, two, three, there's your nine
and eight, there's your eleven and five. In the past
six of seven, seven of eight, it's been nothing but
a mess, gross tired. So that's where I kind of

(39:43):
draw the line with trying to be excited about anything
until they give you a reason to be excited about it.
This is on them. This is not on you. It's
not on me. It's on them. Thank you, Kenny for
the call. Dre on hold. I'll get back to you
more on Daniel Jones being the week one starter. Some
of you are on board with it, We'll get you
on Joey Erickson to the Star at the top of

(40:04):
the hour, and we have a large chunk of this
show dedicated to you. It is the tech stream or
the text line at three, one, seven, two, nine, ten, seventy,
as well ninety three five five The Fan, the Ride
with JMV.

Speaker 5 (40:21):
They man, you got a joint.

Speaker 4 (40:24):
Uh No, not on me, man.

Speaker 9 (40:27):
It'd be a lot cooler if he.

Speaker 3 (40:29):
Did ninety three to five and one oh seven five
the Fan.

Speaker 6 (40:35):
Well, I think that he's proven that he's played good
football in that twenty twenty two season. You know, he
had a hell of a year that year. I think
that was the highest completion rate in Giants franchise history
that season. So he's proven to do it. I know
if he's had his ups and downs, but everyone's journey's different, uh,
and feel confident in his abilities.

Speaker 4 (40:53):
My goodness, that is like the lowest bar of all
time for Anthony Richardson, Lord of Mercy twenty twenty two.
Now he's really good in twenty two. That's why we're
gonna start im over Anthony Richardson again. I'm gonna give
styching credit because this is a complete indictment on what

(41:14):
he has been unable to do. You can't even get
Richardson ready to start in year three in week one.

Speaker 10 (41:20):
What.

Speaker 4 (41:23):
But in twenty twenty two Daniel Jones was good again.
It wasn't really going to matter. It's not going to matter.
And you look at Daniel Jones and clearly you trust
him with just being able to do. I hate to

(41:44):
say it, it's like the walking chewing gum stuff at once.
It's just two things at once, multitasking. You're choosing that
the diligence and over a wild card. And believe me,
I have no confidence in Richardson. I have no confidence

(42:07):
in until I see anything of consistency. I don't have
confidence in anybody that Jonathan Taylor's going to be good.
You know what I mean about this team. Dave wants
to know if I'm butt hurt because I had it wrong.
I'm not buttered about anything. What the hell did I
be buttered about?

Speaker 1 (42:27):
See?

Speaker 4 (42:28):
Here in lies the problem. I could give you a
great example, Chez says, Kenny is what's wrong with the
fan base in this town now, man, Dave Thomas, is
what's wrong with the fan base because you would rather
see a talk show host wrong than when you'd rather
be able to say I told you so on social
media because you're a big dumb jackass, than when that's

(42:48):
what you would rather have. There's a problem, Like I
give Kenny credit because Kenny's just out there saying whatever,
and I'm sitting here giving an opinion on things. I
just can't believe in something that has given me no
reason for belief. I don't even think that would be

(43:10):
fair to you guys. And you know that it can
be different because I gave you firm belief and the
Pacers before anybody else had it. So it does exist,
but you have to have a reason to do it,
and they give you no reason. And that's what we

(43:30):
wait on. Yeah, there's the like Dave Thomas's of the world.
Those are the problems right there. I mean, Kenny's always
going to go and always going to be enthusiastic. I mean,
you've got to have those guys. It's like the hype man.
It's like getting rid of Gorman, which was dumb as hell.

(43:50):
Everybody needs a hype man. New addition needed a hype man.
I've said this before. Michael Bivens couldn't sing, couldn't dance,
but he was the consummate hype man, and you needed him.
You just do stuff that is unnecessary and make a
lot of the wrong decisions. This is where you kind
of lead down the wrong path here. I did see

(44:13):
Sophie Cunningham as done for the season. That is too
bad for the fever. I think everybody thought that that
was going to happen, and that absolutely did. It has
been a very forgettable because of injury season this year,
without question, and that's too bad. I will say this,

(44:34):
there's still a couple of games over five hundred. Jam v.
Daniel Jones is not and Day Better as not even close.
At this point. I would rather start Riley Leonard. Team
isn't going anywhere anyway. Hey, I'm not suggesting that Anthony
Richardson is any good. It's not you guys. You guys
are catching me wrong on this. How are you a

(44:57):
quarterback guru? And you can't have a guy with that
much talent ready by year number three that started in
week one to be beaten out by a guy that's
twenty games under five hundred like Daniel Jones. And that's
the reason why I'm butt hurt.

Speaker 11 (45:09):
Now.

Speaker 4 (45:09):
If I'm going to be buttered, I should be but
hurt because we're going through this same damn thing again.
That's what we all should have a little rear end
sword us because of that. You guys, Joel A coming
up at the top of the hour, and again after Joel.
It is basically an hour and fifteen of us blabbering together.
Ninety three five one oh seven five Fan the ride

(45:34):
with JMV.

Speaker 12 (45:35):
In the beat Ooser in the beat.

Speaker 3 (45:38):
Ooser ninety three five and one oh seven five the Fan.

Speaker 1 (45:43):
Yeah for sure.

Speaker 6 (45:44):
I mean, like I said, he handled it great. We
sat down my office this morning and talks and I said, hey,
here's the things that you know, you need to keep
improving on the things I hit earlier, you know about
the consistency, and you know, he agreed. He's like I
got room for growth there, and like I said, hey,
you're one playway, and he told me the same thing.

Speaker 1 (45:59):
He's like, you're right in one playway.

Speaker 6 (46:00):
So I'm going to attack it the right way, knowing
that if something happened to Daniel, he's got to be
ready to go.

Speaker 4 (46:05):
Shane Steikeen from a little bit earlier, Daniel Jones is
your starting quarterback in week number one and one final
preseason game coming up on Saturday. Welcome back to hour two.
Inside the text line at three one seven, two three
nine ten seventy, I can read off again name and
location because I love to read that, and two three
nine ten seven. If you want to jump on board,

(46:26):
we can get your dialogue where everybody can hear you,
just like Kenny a little bit earlier. That and more
with you, and we'll do it all after our next
guest on the Andy Moore Automotive Group Hotline from the
Indianapolis Star. It is Joel a. Ericson who joins us.
So your belief going in compared to what you witnessed

(46:50):
earlier today from Shane steike You know, then moving forward
to week number one, what do you think the feeling
is around that locker room about this decision at quarterback?

Speaker 13 (47:01):
I think from from talking to some of the players
that there's probably uh, it sounds like, I think make
Michael Pittman put it best that you're they're in a
spot where you you feel badly for Anthony, you feel
good for Daniel.

Speaker 2 (47:17):
You don't know how to necessarily reconcile those two things
together and.

Speaker 12 (47:22):
In a way that makes a good package. But also
it does sound like Daniel Jones.

Speaker 2 (47:28):
Has done a good job of integrating himself into that
locker room over the over the past four months or
five months since he's been signed.

Speaker 4 (47:37):
Joey Erickson at the Star talking about Daniel Jones being
the starter and then Anthony richardson his future. He's on
the Andy Moore Automotive Group hotline. So as far as
as Jones is concerned, compare that to richardson Listen, I'm
not there as much as you are, so I know
that you would have a great deal of information. Did

(47:59):
you see a from what you witnessed a training camp
between the two quarterbacks.

Speaker 13 (48:05):
I think that the gap that I saw would probably
be made up for somewhat with richardson big plays. But
I did have I did have Jones at close to
ten percent better completion rate.

Speaker 12 (48:21):
He doesn't throw the ball down the field as much.
He had fewer I would say this, he had fewer.

Speaker 13 (48:29):
Periods of practice where he kind of didn't have a
lot of completions at all. Was there was more of
that from Richardson? I think en listening to Shane Steiken, though,
I think that a lot of this stuff is maybe
stuff that would be tougher for.

Speaker 12 (48:44):
Us to see.

Speaker 13 (48:45):
That is the ball going to the right spot, you know,
is the cadence right behind the line of scrimmages and
helping the offensive line get off the ball?

Speaker 12 (48:56):
Is it all starts that kind of thing.

Speaker 13 (48:58):
Is he making all of the right exit the line?
The thing about NFL football is that in the current era,
it is all about figuring out what your opponent does,
how to attack them, and how to counter whatever they
come up with as a.

Speaker 12 (49:17):
Counter to your attack.

Speaker 13 (49:19):
And because of that, the quarterback's job is you have.

Speaker 12 (49:22):
To be really on top of all of that stuff.

Speaker 13 (49:25):
And it sounds like Jones like psych and decided that
Jones was more ready to.

Speaker 5 (49:29):
Do all of that.

Speaker 4 (49:30):
Joe A. Erickson at the Star talking about the Colts
quarterback decision today, he's kind of enough to join us
on the anymore Automotive Group hootline. So, even though you
say all the right things, again things that have to
be said, considering the circumstances, do you believe that Anthony
Richardson's career is over here outside of injury.

Speaker 12 (49:53):
I it's yeah.

Speaker 13 (49:54):
I think it's gonna be really tough for him to
come back. It's you just I was trying the other
day to come up with an example of another player
who've been in this situation where they've been benched once
brought back something like that.

Speaker 12 (50:10):
I don't know if you can.

Speaker 14 (50:11):
And that's kind of the theme of Richardson's career is
that the Colts have kind of always been hoping for
something beyond.

Speaker 13 (50:24):
Like where something that didn't have a lot of precedents
in terms of his lack of experience coming out of
college some of the other stuff. And this just adds
another layer on it. We're talking like, for him to make.

Speaker 12 (50:39):
It with the Colts.

Speaker 13 (50:41):
Outside of injury, it's gonna have to be something that's
never happened for an NFL history.

Speaker 4 (50:48):
Yeah, that's what I think too, And Joel, I don't
think it's too off target to suggest this is one
of the biggest bus selections in the history of the
league right now? Would you agree.

Speaker 12 (51:07):
That's a great question.

Speaker 13 (51:11):
There have been enough of them, especially at the quarterback position,
that there's probably a lot. But yeah, you can't hit
on a number four pick.

Speaker 4 (51:18):
Let's say, hey, Joel, I'm gonna let you play off
of this. JaMarcus Russell, Kelly Smith and I don't know
when a lot of these guys are drafted, but I
know that they're described as bust you know, Gosh, I
can't Those are the two that come off the top
of my head right now. I mean it's I know,
we live in the moment. We live in the moment, Joel,

(51:39):
I do realize that too, But I think you would
at least have to categorize this as one of the
biggest busts of all time considering what has been given
back because we've seen virtually nothing.

Speaker 13 (51:52):
Yeah, I mean you drow Tim Couch to be another
high pick, Ryan leaf Car another high pick.

Speaker 12 (51:59):
Those guys. Yeah, if he if.

Speaker 13 (52:01):
He never gets another another real shot starting his career,
would fall in somewhere in that mix of the guys
you just mentioned.

Speaker 4 (52:10):
I know that Daniel Jones can move. Would you think
you ever see a time where they would slot Anthony
Richardson in there in a short yard in situation near
the goal.

Speaker 13 (52:21):
Uh, that's I mean, that's interesting. It's it's interesting because
I don't Daniel Jones can Daniel Jones has has good
enough speed to make some plays with his legs, but
he doesn't have Richidson's power. We've got to see in
the past that Richardson's power as a runner, it's very
very effective down there on the goal line. And so yeah,
I think that that's that's maybe a possibility. Now he's

(52:45):
your backup quarterback too, and you want to get into
a situation where it's Daniel Jones or Riding Leonard as
the emergency quarterback, maybe you don't do it because of that,
you know. I think like when the States started doing
this with Seeton Hill, they had a a backup to
Drew Brees and then Jason.

Speaker 12 (53:03):
Hill is doing his other stuff.

Speaker 13 (53:04):
So I don't know if you see it often, but
I think that you know, second is shown in the
path that you're willing to do it, maybe once or
twice is up.

Speaker 4 (53:12):
The playbook still as open for Jones as it might
be for Richardson. How do the two play books and
play calls compare with the quarterbacks, and then how how
does that have an impact I guess on his teammates offensively, I.

Speaker 12 (53:27):
Think in some ways.

Speaker 13 (53:28):
I think in some ways the playbook is more open
with Jones, not maybe not from a rushing standpoint, I
think it's probably.

Speaker 12 (53:36):
Less open in terms of the different.

Speaker 13 (53:38):
Like I don't know that you can run the quarterback
straight up the middle as much with Jones as he
could with Richardson, although you know that it'd be fair
to question whether or not that was the right thing
to do with Richardson given the injury history.

Speaker 12 (53:52):
But I don't think you can do as much of that.
I do think in the passing game though, some of
the stuff it psyched.

Speaker 13 (53:57):
Is talking about, with the operation, the you know, knowing
the offense, all of that stuff, it allows them to
do a little bit more game planning probably week to
week would be my guest.

Speaker 12 (54:07):
Than now.

Speaker 13 (54:09):
The flip side that is, you also probably lose some
downfield ball that Alec Pierce is probably you know, not
getting as many as many moonshots down the field.

Speaker 12 (54:19):
So I think from an actual.

Speaker 13 (54:22):
Place called standpoint, it probably opens.

Speaker 12 (54:25):
The playbook and that they can run a bunch of
different stuff.

Speaker 13 (54:28):
I think in terms of you know, is it a
deep ball, is it that kind of stuff? I think
there's some restrictions there that you're not going to necessarily
see as much.

Speaker 4 (54:35):
Is Joel of the Star talking Colts on the Andy
Moore aut A Motive Group hotline. I know you're as
curious about this as I am, but I guess I
would have to go with your opinion.

Speaker 5 (54:47):
Here.

Speaker 4 (54:48):
We know how Shan Steikin felt because he ultimately made
the decision. How do you think Chris Ballard or maybe
even better yet, Carly Orsa Gordon felt about that final decision?

Speaker 13 (54:59):
Well earlier, say Gordon did say, you know the other
day on the broadcast that this is going to be
shame Psyken's decision, you know, and she has she has
so far if I remember correctly, she has said that
it is it is for her a wait to see
approach this season. So I would I would say I

(55:20):
would debate based off of what she said. I think
you know, she she made it was it was psych
I think from a from a Chris Ballard standpoint, you know, uh,
Chris is definitely going to be He's gonna push back
on any narratives that Richardson's career has done. He's not
gonna He's not gonna want to do that.

Speaker 12 (55:40):
He's not gonna want to close the door on that.

Speaker 13 (55:43):
I I think that the fact that he was willing
to stay in his initial press conferences, they needed to
go out and get real competition when this offseason first started.

Speaker 12 (55:53):
Back in January. They needed to go out and get.

Speaker 13 (55:56):
Real competition for Daniels or Anthony Richardson, and that he
was also the one to say it would be an
open competition to combine. I would say that he was
probably prepared for this eventuality.

Speaker 12 (56:09):
Based on the way they handled the off season.

Speaker 4 (56:12):
So Joel a. Erickson of the Stars kind of enough
to join us. He's on the Andy Moore Automotive Group potline.
Daniel Jones is the quarterback. How much disappointment do you
think Shane has considering he's supposed to be this huge
offensive guy and being able to deal with quarterbacks. And
this is as I think you and I both agree,

(56:34):
this is the end result with Anthony Richardson going into
year three. He can't beat out a guy that's twenty
stinking games under five hundred in his NFL career. Is
that a failure for Shane Steichen because I believe it to.

Speaker 13 (56:48):
Be well, you know, Shane was one of the driving
forces in drafting Richardson.

Speaker 12 (56:55):
And believing that they.

Speaker 13 (56:56):
Could develop him into that kind of player.

Speaker 12 (56:59):
And Yeah, to not have it happen, I think there's
got to be some disappointment. Uh there.

Speaker 13 (57:04):
I you know, I wonder you wonder if from a
development standpoint, if if Psychen's strength is more along the
lines of he can design an offense that fits the quarterback.
He can you know, he'll design something to think that
that that they can run well, take advantage of.

Speaker 12 (57:23):
Their strengths, that kind of thing. But in terms of
the the day to.

Speaker 13 (57:28):
Day stuff that we've heard, the operation of the huddle,
all that stuff, I wonder if he's if he's more
of a he can design the offense, but is he
is he the hands on type of quarterback developer because
he has Dustin Herbert and Zalen Hurt and this is
this is part of the Richardson decision to draft Richardson.
The two guys that he he worked with before. Those

(57:51):
guys were were very experienced, like all of that stuff,
had very large programs, so all of that stuff they
kind of understood intrinsically from their care years before. You know,
Richardson was a different case and that he was kind
of a raw lump of clay that didn't have that
background in all the stuff he's supposed to do.

Speaker 4 (58:11):
So I know the circumstances a year ago, Joel were different.
But we also heard regarded Joe Flacco that it was
going to be the rest.

Speaker 1 (58:17):
Of the year.

Speaker 4 (58:18):
Do you think that that'd be maybe a change in
judgment if things don't work out, because listen, you know
me to be mister must win guy. There's no bigger
must win And I also will tell you in week
number one, Joel, the bar is set solo. Considering what
week one is represented for this organization for so many
years now, and you get the Dolphins, where the secondary

(58:41):
is absolutely right to be torn apart. There could not
be a better moment for Daniel Jones to have at
least a one week resurrection in week number one. I mean,
really they should. But you look at it in terms
of early in the season, pack do you think he
will have against teams like the Dolphins and the Broncos

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in weeks one and two?

Speaker 13 (59:06):
Well, I think the biggest thing is just that it's
a different or at least it should be like the
hope and I think for Sane psyching and making this
move is that the hope is that he's it's a
different offense from a it actually moves the chains and
holds onto the ball, that they can move the ball
down the field in a way that's not just explosive plays.

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The Dolphins, I'm with you, that team has lost so
much defensive talent over the last couple of years. That's
a nice landing spot. I think for a new quarterback.
The Broncos are not. The Broncos are the type of
defense that he's going to have to prove that all
of this stuff that Psyche is saying about the operation
and everything like that is true, because the Broncos are

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going to test you from a blitz standpoint. They're gonna
test you from a bunch of different coverages.

Speaker 12 (59:55):
You know. That's That's the kind of defense that.

Speaker 13 (59:58):
I think is the reason that that psychin that felt
like he had to make the move to Jones this year.

Speaker 4 (01:00:04):
Uh, Joel A. Erickson is with us. I it is
something did you expect this? And I guess furthermore, did
you think that going all the way back when they
brought Daniel Jones in. Did they legitimately think that he
would ultimately be named the starter for week number one?
Did they buy what they were even trying to sell

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to everybody back then in your estimation.

Speaker 13 (01:00:28):
I I think that they believe that he could be kissed.
I would say that from from my standpoint, I've kind
of gone back and forth the last couple of weeks.
Kind of frustrated me so on my part. I in fact,
I even think I said on on our on our
joint station.

Speaker 12 (01:00:45):
I think I said I thought it was gonna be Richardson,
like I did say.

Speaker 13 (01:00:48):
That after the game, and then I went back and
listened to Seane Piche and uh for the second time.

Speaker 12 (01:00:54):
You know, you do the press conference and then you
go to some other.

Speaker 13 (01:00:56):
Stuff and you listen to it and type it out,
And in typing it out, I was thinking to myself,
I was like, he's talking about Daniel Jones, and I
probably shouldn't have said what I just said on TV.
So I've kind of gone back and forth on it.
I think the hardest part with this and the part
that makes it difficult, I think for fans and for
everybody to kind of understand is.

Speaker 12 (01:01:18):
Is that this decision is made.

Speaker 13 (01:01:22):
It sounds like primarily on stuff that is.

Speaker 12 (01:01:24):
Not easy for us to see.

Speaker 4 (01:01:26):
Sure, it's not easy for.

Speaker 12 (01:01:30):
Ed Dodd said this last week.

Speaker 13 (01:01:31):
It's not even always easy for a front office person
to know that the right audible was made, or that
the ball went to the right spot, or that their
cadence was right and stuff like that. So I think
that's the hardest part for us, is that this is
stuff that's not easy for us to see. Even if
you are out of practice and watching it every day.
You know, you can have a short completion in practice,

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or a completion in practice.

Speaker 12 (01:01:56):
That it goes out as a completion in the book.

Speaker 13 (01:01:58):
But the ball didn't go to where it was supposed to,
or there was a blitzer who would have sacked him
if it wasn't Red Jerseys.

Speaker 12 (01:02:03):
I think that's the hardest part, is some part of
the decision is stuff that we could not easily see.

Speaker 4 (01:02:09):
I think we'd all understand maybe so far. The Richardson
signature moment was the tapping on the helmet of a
year ago. But I also think I don't know if
you do or not. That's why I'm asking when he
got a job Oede in that first preseason game. Was
that a defining moment as to why do you think
at least things as as you had mentioned earlier, we

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can't see, but this is something we saw when they
put his pinky on sideways. Was that a defining moment
ultimately that helped lead to this decision? You think?

Speaker 13 (01:02:40):
I think it was.

Speaker 15 (01:02:43):
I think it was a sign post. Yeah, I think
it was a sign post in terms of.

Speaker 13 (01:02:50):
You know, that was his rusher, that was his rusher.

Speaker 12 (01:02:54):
He was hot on that side. His job was to
make the place that the rusher doesn't.

Speaker 13 (01:02:59):
Get to him, and he didn't make it. And I
think that that's that's a signpost. That was kind of
an alert that maybe there was some that some of
this stuff that had been a problem for him in
the past was still a problem or going to be
a problem.

Speaker 4 (01:03:13):
I know historically guys don't play, but preseasons are a
little bit different now than they used to be. Inclosing here, Joel,
but if you're talking about a guy that needs more
and needs to show more yet and Richardson will not
participate in that final preseason game, is that more of
what you said earlier he's the backup quarterback and you
can't put him out there to get him injured. Or

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is it what happens if the guy goes out there
and looks absolutely outstanding and that screws up everything here?
Is there a dynamic at work on either way? In
that final preseason.

Speaker 13 (01:03:45):
Game, I think the biggest thing is just how many
guys left injury on Saturday. My initial and understanding was
that they were going to play some of their.

Speaker 12 (01:03:57):
Guys a little bit more, you know, a little bit
more in that third preseason game.

Speaker 13 (01:04:02):
I think they just and there's actually it's there's still
a fairly lengthy.

Speaker 12 (01:04:05):
List of people out at practice.

Speaker 13 (01:04:08):
I think that the just the sheer numbers of players
who are dealing with or have dealt with something here
in the last little bit, I think is what ultimately
led to that decision.

Speaker 4 (01:04:19):
You get it, though, I mean it does when you
talk about a guy needs this and needs that. There's
still learning and then you you already take away all
this opportunity for him to learn and to participate, and
then he doesn't, you know, with that chance to do
so on Saturday. That's why people kind of look at
this a little bit sideways. Joel altogether.

Speaker 13 (01:04:42):
Yeah, but they, I mean they I think if you
if he goes out there and looks great against the Bengals,
you go, but we've made our We've made our decision.

Speaker 12 (01:04:50):
Yeah, I think it has more to do it just
they've run into.

Speaker 13 (01:04:58):
They've run into a couple of real scares here with
with some very important players, and and they don't want
to have any many more any more scares turned into
you know, injured reserve opportunities like happened to unter.

Speaker 12 (01:05:10):
Waller last week.

Speaker 4 (01:05:12):
Hey Joe, how long have you been here?

Speaker 13 (01:05:16):
I started five games into the twenty eighteen season.

Speaker 4 (01:05:21):
Wow, how much enjoyment of you actually seemed fulfilled?

Speaker 10 (01:05:28):
Well?

Speaker 12 (01:05:29):
I was up to a good start there, I was
up to a good start.

Speaker 13 (01:05:32):
Yeah, I.

Speaker 12 (01:05:34):
Thought.

Speaker 13 (01:05:35):
I saw Jets lost and then it was ten of
the next eleven and then uh, you know, the Philip
Rivers year was was quite fun.

Speaker 4 (01:05:43):
I thought, Uh, yeah, I was.

Speaker 13 (01:05:46):
But but yeah, yeah, there's I I understand the pain
from Colts fans.

Speaker 12 (01:05:50):
It's this is it is very difficult.

Speaker 13 (01:05:51):
To continually be going through And I think I think
part of the reason that they're so frustrated is that
in in choosing Daniel Joe over Anthony Richardson. They're signaling
in one way or the other that in his third
year he's not ready to start like that. That's the
guy that was supposed to be the guy for you,
That's the guy that was supposed to be pull you

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out of.

Speaker 12 (01:06:13):
Where you've been. Yeah, I get it. That totally makes
sense to me from a fan standpoint.

Speaker 13 (01:06:19):
You know why why this is as frustrating.

Speaker 15 (01:06:22):
And it's disheartening as it as it probably is, because
he was supposed to give you hope.

Speaker 12 (01:06:28):
And you know, as much as Nicols have said, you know.

Speaker 13 (01:06:31):
As much as they brought up Baker Mayfield and Sam
Darnold and those guys.

Speaker 12 (01:06:36):
Like that, most fans know.

Speaker 13 (01:06:41):
In general and as in like in general, those.

Speaker 12 (01:06:43):
Guys are are the exception, not the rules.

Speaker 13 (01:06:46):
And so I I think that's that's why everyone, I
think that's.

Speaker 15 (01:06:51):
Why the fan base is is fairly disappointed and disheartened
right now.

Speaker 4 (01:06:57):
I had said this all along, that if Anthony Richardson
did not start and play this season, that there's really
no reason to have everybody around. And that's kind of
how I feel, because I think, unfortunately we're all going
to end up and we'll see how the season goes
to till us to be played. But I just think

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we're going to end up where we were in that
general vicinity of a year ago when you could have
expedited this process. And again, I don't know what you
do with quarterback, but I know you could do something
similar as to what you're doing right now. To me,
this just looks like it's going to be a wasted
year knowing something you're already knowing. Hey, Joe, the dynamic

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at work was you know, Jim wasn't feeling great, as
we well know, you had all this other stuff going on.
I do realize that, But at the same time, it
just seems like again, organizationally, there's been the dragon to
defeat that leads us down a similar path, and we're
on our way to a similar result. And I think
that's that's until further notice. That's how I think I

(01:08:02):
have to view it at least.

Speaker 13 (01:08:05):
Yeah, I mean, I don't think anyone that's going to
be picking I don't think anyone is gonna be picking
the Colts as a as a contender this year.

Speaker 12 (01:08:11):
You know, it's it's on them to prove.

Speaker 13 (01:08:15):
It's on them to prove that this is something more
than where they've been the last however many years.

Speaker 12 (01:08:21):
Because that's that's what we see, you know, and.

Speaker 15 (01:08:26):
You know, with with what with moving forward to the future,
I think it's instructive.

Speaker 13 (01:08:33):
Like Carli ers Gordon said, you know, in her introductory
press conference, she.

Speaker 12 (01:08:36):
Needs to see how the season plays out.

Speaker 13 (01:08:38):
She's know all that stuff, but she also said, you
know that the standard has not been met and that
Chris Browler and Shames I can know that, and so
you know, I think we all know the potential implications.

Speaker 12 (01:08:49):
Of that, and they they've got to prove that that
this decision to go to Jones is going to get
them somewhere that we haven't seen them getting along them.

Speaker 4 (01:08:58):
Jolie Eric said of the Star, not a lot of
winning for Joel as he's been here. I will say
this too, Philip Rivers year two, as they expected had
that taken place, things might have been a little bit different.
That was the thought, that thought that manis and they
thought that and they were wrong about that. And that

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was that was costly, not as costly as dumping Manning
or as costly as you know, lux decision. But I
think that's ride along the lines had they been able
to bridge the gap to year two of Rivers as
they expected, things could have and maybe would be drastically different.
So but what are you gonna do?

Speaker 13 (01:09:40):
That's that's the quarterback game in the NFL. Indeed, it
is a bunch of missed opportunities or made opportunities, and
they're all fighting doors moments.

Speaker 12 (01:09:49):
One way or the other.

Speaker 4 (01:09:50):
Well, in honor of your yellow tie on Saturday, I'm
rocking a yellow polo today.

Speaker 12 (01:09:59):
I I was. I was.

Speaker 13 (01:10:03):
They introduced me on TV with a picture of my
boys and I at the Brewers game in Cincinnati on Friday,
and I was.

Speaker 12 (01:10:13):
I figured I would go uh.

Speaker 13 (01:10:15):
Brewer's colors on on on air two, just to play into.

Speaker 1 (01:10:19):
What they were already doing.

Speaker 4 (01:10:20):
Yeah, that was I own up. Maybe I shouldn't call
it yellow, Maybe it was gold the golden tie. I'm
going with the golden shirt today. Hey, well done as always, man,
I appreciate you on a busy day. We'll do it
again soon.

Speaker 12 (01:10:34):
He thank you.

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Speaker 16 (01:11:24):
They all adored. They think he's a righteous dude.

Speaker 3 (01:11:27):
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Speaker 9 (01:11:31):
I guess you could say some somewhat surprised, but at
the end of the day, we all knew somebody was
gonna have to be on this end of the stick,
you know, and it was me. You know, I feel
like I did improve, That's what I talked about earlier.
You know, my improvement was there, but you know it's
still ways I can improve. You know, it's still ways
I could become a better player, you know, become a
starter in his league. So I feel like I did

(01:11:52):
a decent job improving, but there's still a lot more
I can do. You know, it's only about to be
year three, saying all they talked about me being twenty
three years so I still got more time, you know,
I still got more time to grow and be a
great guy in this league. So no, I'm looking for it,
and I'm thankful for every opportunity.

Speaker 4 (01:12:08):
Anthony Richardson, when many you like me, believe everything is
done with him, he's believing he gets still learn and
be out there at some point and do something here
it looks like it is all but done. Clearly, unless
Daniel Jones gets injured. The number one quarterback in Week
one is that of Daniel Jones. Steve chimes in with this,

(01:12:30):
Daniel Jones is menshew with a better arm and no
big play capability because and I actually Steve referenced him.
I believe I said Gardner Flacco no big play capability
because he won't push the ball down the field and
is checked down. Charlie Ballard and Stiching have to go

(01:12:50):
if they don't make the postseason. So other than winning,
Philip Rivers was a really good quarterback. Is there a
comparison to be made between Daniel Jones and Philip Rivers
at all, other than Philip Rivers was a statue and

(01:13:15):
Daniel Jones is not a statue. Maybe that's about it. JMV.
Sinse neither quarterback will be here long. Let's bench them
both and play Riley Leonard to see what happens. JMV.
What did Jones do? He isn't going to get booed
dream on, nor should he. If he is the quarterback,

(01:13:36):
you get behind him. He's a player, not in management.
Beyond that, I don't think you can underestimate the damage
done by tapping out. I agree with that to Patrick,
Josh writes this, between the Colts, Pacers, and Fever, think
of all the injuries over the past five years, why
is this happening? It's crazy. I always felt since he
had the injury, Jinks feels like it moved up I

(01:13:58):
seventy four. Now everybody gets it. I got injured, We're
all getting injured. Robbie writes this, the Colts did the
retread quarterback for so long that they finally got a
high draft pick pick only to squander by the way,
that will go down in history as one of the
worst all time. You can look that up too. If

(01:14:19):
no further progress is made, everyone over there deserves to
be fired right now. T Shaw. By week four, needle
and needle insertion, arrogant pos will be the starting quarterback
for the Colts. Thank you. Shout out. I saw Kirk

(01:14:39):
today in the Franklin Meyer. I love the Franklin Meyer.
Love it. Shout out to Kirk Kirk. You got to
say something, though, man, I cannot be the only one
that loves the Franklin Meyer. Ben writes this, I just
got in the car after hearing the news JMV. Is

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this a ballad mandate to keep his job? I how can't?
This is not a mandate for anybody like this is
Shane Stiken two look in the mirror and saying, hey,
look what you didn't do? You failed? You the offensive guru,
the quarterback guy. You can't get going into year three,

(01:15:20):
Anthony Richardson ready to start week one over a guy
that's twenty games under five hundred in his career. You
can't do that. You guys all made the wrong pick.
You all screwed this up. I mean, simply put, Ben,
everybody's rear is on the line here and it should
have been long ago. That's why I suggest, why are

(01:15:43):
we here? Why are we here? Does it feel like
at times it's not worth jacking with? That's kind of
what I feel like right now. All right, two three
nine ten seventy. Let's go to coop online two to
start here. Welcome to the show Cold on jam V.

Speaker 17 (01:16:03):
I would say that this is the norm in the NFL. Okay,
the only time the Cults have ever been good in
Indianapolis is when they had two no brainers dropping their lap. Okay, yes,
toughest thing in football.

Speaker 5 (01:16:17):
Is to find the quarterback.

Speaker 17 (01:16:21):
Every team's wrong most of the time.

Speaker 18 (01:16:24):
I'm not a ballad guy.

Speaker 17 (01:16:26):
But they took a swing and they missed big time.
And there's a price to pay for that. But that's
the rest of the league. That's the NFL.

Speaker 4 (01:16:37):
Yeah, they've also been Listen, and I also get this
too when you go back.

Speaker 19 (01:16:42):
And Andy Reid.

Speaker 10 (01:16:44):
Andy Reid, the quarterback guru, wasn't any good until he
got a great quarterback.

Speaker 17 (01:16:49):
I mean, what, what would his history have been?

Speaker 4 (01:16:52):
Just a good coach Philadelphia? But no, I mean you
and and that's that's listen, and what you're saying is accurate.
You have to find a good quarterback. But you can't
take stinking forever to do it. No matter what Andrew
Luck did or getting rid of Manning or what Philip
Rivers decided, it can't take stinking forever to do it.

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And it has with decision after decision. I will say this,
one of the best quarterbacks right up until the final
two weeks of the season we have seen in recent
memory is Carson Wentz. You would take Carson Wentz's numbers
of that year right now with Daniel Jones in a
minute and a heartbeat, yes, Coop and a heartbeat. Carl

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wors Carson. Carson Wentz is still in Zionsville. Go get him.
I don't know, listen, it is. And I wish I
could cobble together three hours of just saying that, because
it does wear us all out. I agree, but there
is more in detail and means and weddings. You have

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to put it.

Speaker 17 (01:18:01):
One last thing about Anthony Richardson.

Speaker 1 (01:18:03):
He's the guy that has.

Speaker 10 (01:18:04):
Gotten through his whole life. Yes, based on talent alone. Yes,
now it guess what, He's really really talented, so talented
that he could get to the NFL on talent alone.

Speaker 1 (01:18:15):
Yes, but it finally hit him in the face.

Speaker 17 (01:18:17):
They took a swing and a miss the guy he
I mean the fact when he got when he got
flattened in that preseason game, you knew, you knew. He
doesn't recognize it, he can't see it. I mean, it
was as clear as day to me.

Speaker 5 (01:18:32):
Yeah, we're gonna make you.

Speaker 4 (01:18:34):
Got two signature moments, the tapping on the helmet and
then that preseason game in Baltimore whereas Pinky was pointing
east and west and he got a job oed. That's
the two signature moments of his career here right there.

Speaker 17 (01:18:47):
I mean, he's the fact that he is such an
exceptional talent. I mean, none of us have ever been
able just to get out of bed and be so
good that we can go about our whole life.

Speaker 1 (01:18:57):
Okay, he's got it.

Speaker 17 (01:18:58):
He has exceptional talent. For actually, in the NFL, you
can't get to the very very top unless you got
it the whole package.

Speaker 4 (01:19:07):
You bring up one hill, who's hey, who has just
gotten out of bed and been that good? No matter what,
is there been anybody that just you and not us,
like just you just get away with it on talent
or looks whatever. I mean, is there anybody in that capacity,
because that is a group, a club. If there is one,

(01:19:28):
I would love to be a part of.

Speaker 17 (01:19:29):
Cooper, hey, man, you you're your finding. Matthew mcconaughe Hey,
he might be the guy.

Speaker 4 (01:19:34):
Hey listen, you might be right about that. You might
be right. Yeah, that's all he All he does is act.
He put on weight, lose weight, and smoke weed. That's
a glorious lifestyle. Thank you, Coop. I appreciate it. Coop's
right about a lot of things right there. The problem

(01:19:55):
is there is a grating scale here and it can't
take forever. It shouldn't take forever, and organizationally, and I
know Jim's no longer with us, but there was a
promise after what everybody went through in those early years,
you put up with it because it was new, it
was fresh, it was enjoyable. You really didn't care what happened.

(01:20:18):
And then you got a taste of winning in nineteen
ninety five at the tail end of the season, and
then you got it consistently, and you got a consistent operation. Right,
the quarterback can fall to you and that's what is magical.
But man, let's not under sell how good Bill Pollian
was at his job. He found dudes. Did he miss absolutely,

(01:20:42):
but he found dudes here, there and everywhere. And it
wasn't just one or two, it was meaningful positions. He
went with the grain, he went against the grain. I mean, hell,
sometimes people suggest that it wasn't his decision to get Manning,
it was somebody with whomever. And I've always said this,

(01:21:05):
that organization. For whatever reason, Bill Pulley was perfect because
he was He was like the dictator over there. Don't laugh.
But he knew everything. I've told those stories before. He
knew everything. He knows everything was going on in the
football operation. He knew how many paper clips were on
the secretary's desk. There were forbidden hallway. You can't walk

(01:21:28):
down that hallway without a credential. You're not a part
of the football I mean, it was just a different environment.
And he had his own show every Monday night. That
was muscle Listen. I don't even know if that exists anymore,
and maybe it doesn't have to if you find the
right guy. But I think as important as the quarterback

(01:21:54):
always will be the most important. I think also important
was that consum leader and Tony Duneye was a leader,
but poll In was the overall. He took everything. He
took the arrows, all of it. I think sometimes that
gets a bit lost in the shuffle. Courtney's at two

(01:22:17):
three nine, ten seventy.

Speaker 11 (01:22:19):
Hello Courtney, Hey John, spend a minute, Hey dog.

Speaker 4 (01:22:23):
Good to hear from you. Courtney.

Speaker 1 (01:22:24):
Go ahead, man, I'm.

Speaker 11 (01:22:27):
Just I'm just at a not lost of words, but
I'm just a little at the moment. I don't know
what the thing. I don't know, man, I just I
just feel like, you know, I don't get me wrong.
I liked when they signed Daniel Jones to the team,
so I really feel like that they had a good

(01:22:49):
backup because I really was really was hoping that every
Richmond would come out and start, but turns out we
got this instead. But I don't know, I'm kind of
often this probably would be good for ar made in
a way, but I don't know, man.

Speaker 4 (01:23:06):
Are you more disappointed in the pit the pick in
this case that is a bust as we stand, or
the fact that organizationally, you have a bunch of folks
over there that never could get this guy pointed in
the right direction with all those tools to succeed. Because
that's where I find myself. You know what, Why was

(01:23:29):
he unable to be directed to coach stup to be
good enough to win a stinking job over Daniel Jones
in week number one in year three? Why is that?

Speaker 1 (01:23:41):
I think?

Speaker 11 (01:23:41):
To me, I agree it is the organization in general,
light from from baller to down to Shane Stiking. Like
you guys knew that this man was wraw and instead
of staying on your plan and let him develop and grow,

(01:24:01):
you start each handicked. Because I feel like the fans
have put a lot of pressure on them when they
because you know, we were tired of losing. We've been
we've been losing for a while, and we just ready
want to see something positive. You know, we already got
that from the Pacers, but we're looking for that for
our football team. And I guess I kind of felt

(01:24:24):
the pressure off of that and decided to go in
this route would back him up everything. And then part
of it is ar two like he needs, he needs,
he needs to step up and do better.

Speaker 1 (01:24:38):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:24:39):
I feel like he just but but.

Speaker 4 (01:24:42):
It's not like that that should have been known to
them to coordinate when they drafted him. I mean, if
you've had a guy, I mean you're you're going to
have to to understand fully how he goes, how you're
going to have to push him, you know, what he's
going to be able to evolve into. And clearly either
they didn't have much of a notion or what they

(01:25:04):
did have just simply hasn't hasn't worked out. So I
think a lot of people are similarly disappointed as to
you are. I think for me, the ultimate disappointment is
just this monumental waste of time we've been on. Like
the Talking Heads have a great song we can come
back out of the break with it. Thank you Courtney
for the call. Man you call, make sure you call

(01:25:25):
all season loan to get that opinion in. But they
have a song called the Road to Nowhere, and that's
essentially this organization on a nutshell. It's a road to nowhere.
You're not going to finish right, you're not going to
start new We're on a road to nowhere. James is

(01:25:48):
going to queue that up for us, JAMV. What does
needle insertion pos mean? I've been trying to figure that
out since yesterday's show. I'm asking one curmudgeon to another.
This Aaron from Minnesota. It is Ben Tinnen who yesterday
called me needle insertion pos because I lost weight and

(01:26:11):
uh used a needle for the past year. Now, I
also worked my ass off at it too and changed
up everything. But well, I am needle insertion guy, so
he's partly right. But I did work at it, still
do matter of fact, so I am indeed needle insertion pos.

(01:26:37):
Thank you. Eron quick break, will come back. If you're
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Speaker 3 (01:26:58):
The ride with JMV. Bill, I just have one question
for you.

Speaker 20 (01:27:03):
What color is an orange?

Speaker 3 (01:27:04):
Ted? You bonehead?

Speaker 4 (01:27:05):
Its color is the same as its name, just like
a lemon.

Speaker 3 (01:27:08):
Ninety three to five and one oh seven five the Fan. Oh,
this is appropriate as hell right here, hey, JMV. Road
to Nowhere was a great Aussie song too. Let's see
itch at Kokomo. God, this song is so appropriate. Hey,

(01:27:29):
I will tell you this. We would be having a
similar conversation. If the circumstances were different, if Anthony Richardson
with a stortery, we'd be going, Oh, that is just
the nature of where we are, and that is what
this is about, not about anything else. There's nothing personal
against either quarterback, but that's just kind of where we are. Actually,

(01:27:52):
it's not kind of where we are, it's exactly where
we are. Sebastian writes this this comes down to year
after year of Ballard playing it's safe. Luck retired, they
pivoted to set Wentz, Rivers Ryan, who were all safe
and conservatives options at quarterback. The cycle continued because he
was unwilling to take a risk or be aggressive, and

(01:28:14):
then when he was kind of like their defense under
Gus Bradley, they finally take a gamble on ar and
they seemingly can't wait to get back to a more
conservative option.

Speaker 4 (01:28:31):
BKA south Side says JMV. Do you think if the
girls took over before the off season, would Ballo to
Stike and have been canned? I don't think so. He
was all coming back regardless. Brad and Frankton Kirk cousins
looking at houses in Beech Grove Linky brad Jva. Why

(01:28:58):
are we saying Shane failed at the developing Richardson and
not Richardson failed at developing. He's a grown man. He
hasn't developed. It's year three. Blame the player too, will Yeah.
I think he's getting to blame because he's sitting on
the bench, right, I mean, I think the blame is there.
It's not like he's well, he's still starting, he's getting time,

(01:29:19):
he's getting serious. He's benched. So he is getting to
blame rant before the top of the hour two three, nine,
ten seventy, how are you?

Speaker 21 (01:29:30):
I'm swell?

Speaker 1 (01:29:31):
How are you?

Speaker 4 (01:29:31):
I'm just as swell as you are. I'm swollen a
matter of fact.

Speaker 21 (01:29:38):
Yeah, Uh so I'm an Indie native living here. I'm
really more of a cult subserver, yes, really a thing.
I'm a Bengals fan actually. So we have enough problems
of our own that could go down that rabbit hole.
Uh but I want to talry about like everybody's saying,
what if we drafted this guy instead of Ar? And

(01:30:00):
what if AR just started and showed off the athleticism.
If it's investment in, we're candy and nuts and we'd
all have a merry Christmas. That's kind of the way
I see.

Speaker 4 (01:30:10):
Yeah, yeah, no, No, you're right, because what it comes
down to is either you have results or you don't,
and if you don't, you're done, or you should be right. Yeah, correct, exactly.

Speaker 21 (01:30:21):
And like last season he didn't show off enough and
this preseason he hasn't done anything miraculous. They need something new.
I don't think Daniel Jones is the wrong answer. I
don't think he's the right answer. But objectively, like switching
it up is not a bad play.

Speaker 4 (01:30:41):
No, I listen if that is a part of their rationale,
which I don't know how much of a role that plays,
just beyond the whole operation and staying away from turnovers
and you know him making sure you make the right decisions,
and we're talking about stuff that happens before you actually

(01:31:02):
snapped the football. They're looking at that, you know, the
whole team leadership value which sometimes we throw around and
say a lot about, but how meaningful is it? I
think in this case, across the board, there was a
lot of meaning in that. And I think that that
that probably sold them, and I know what sold those

(01:31:22):
that are in the corner of Daniel Jones on him.
This year, because you have seen in the past, you know,
even in small moments, small doses, a little thumbnail sketch
of what Richardson isn't and what he has has yet
to become. And I think a lot of people are
over it. So that's the dynamics, certainly, I think that's

(01:31:43):
at WorkCare Bran for sure, I agree.

Speaker 21 (01:31:47):
I think they should look at like IU football or
even hopefully I you basketball, just going with the clean
slate approach. I don't know if that would work at
the professional level, but at least doing something and switching
Daniel Jones could be an answer.

Speaker 12 (01:32:04):
We don't know.

Speaker 4 (01:32:05):
Well, this is I mean, this is I mean certainly,
when you bench you know, the fourth overall selection, a
top PIH pick like that, and you assume the position
of drafting a high caliber a generational bust, then you're not.
If you don't win, or you know, a little magic
happens this season where you make the postseason, then everything

(01:32:28):
comes to an end, right, nothing gets rolled back. And
that was my assessment of the year after last year,
is all right, if you don't have Richardson, if he's
not the starter at the start of the year, why
are we even jacking with all this, And that's how
I feel sitting here right now talking to you. Why
are we jacking with all this? So but that's how
definitely they'll feel at the end of this year. If

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it's the same old, same old Brant anything else.

Speaker 21 (01:32:53):
That's all I got.

Speaker 4 (01:32:54):
Well done, you call anytime, Thank you very much. More
calls coming up after five. I want you to stick
tight with Daniel owns the starter, solf at Cunningham season done,
Rick Carlisle's extended and more on this.

Speaker 3 (01:33:05):
Show next the ride with JMV. You get nothing, you lose.
Good day there nuety three to five and one oh
seven five the fan.

Speaker 20 (01:33:19):
Yeah, it certainly certainly is. But you know, I understand
this league and how it works, and you've got to
perform at a high level weekend and week out. And
that's certainly what I expect of myself and and uh,
you know, I'll be, you know, expecting of all of
us in this offense. I think we're we're all we
all have high expectations of what we can be.

Speaker 4 (01:33:41):
Daniel Jones courtesy that in WISH TV Channel eight. James
over there, I'm John, thank you for joining us. I
need to give a shout out to camera and had
a text message from Fort Wayne, or as I like
to reference at Fort Wayne, the fart shout out to
Cameron up there too, Jav as a purduing Colts fan,

(01:34:03):
I'm looking forward to having more free time of the weekends.
No need to watch crappy football, Adam, I would fair
I guess that most of you, either way this decision goes,
would feel in similar fashion. Now here's the thing. Now
you get to work your way up to the start
of the season. This feeling will go away, and then

(01:34:25):
you'll wipe the slate, not all together clean, but somewhat
clean to start the season. And we'll see how this
group looks coming up in Week one against Miami. As
I mentioned, the bar is set so incredibly low. Can
you just like beat a team that you should beat
at home? Finally, in week number one, get off to
a good start. The bar is set so conveniently low.

(01:34:50):
Take advantage of it. Colts and Colts offense and Daniel Jones, Man,
that is low right there, my man, This is Indy
on the North Side. Longtime listener, first time texture. I'm
going to give you a by a paragraph of this
really quick, but man, This is like a book here,

(01:35:11):
and I haven't read since the eighth grade. That was then,
this is now Sehn, that was a good book. But
I did watch the movie first. Good leaders look at
processes before blaming people. The process of the development of
ar was broken from the start, Yet they are blaming
him and holding him accountable for their failures. The lack
of reps, mentorship, rushing, starting captainship, and more were all mistakes.

(01:35:37):
They failed him long before he ever failed them. I
will say this, thank you, longtime listener, first time texture
from the North Side. He's he's also failed them too
because he was not prepared and he is not acclimated.

(01:35:58):
You can blame them, I agree, but you have to
like Shane Steiken is supposed to be able to put
this puzzle together, but you have to have the cooperation
of the person you're working with, and that is ultimately
what is massively disappointed about this entire thing is just that.

(01:36:20):
So you can't beat out a guy that's twenty games
under five hundred to start week number one. I mean
think everybody expected at some point Daniel Jones was going
to play right, You're just used to it by now.
But the start of the season, and I think Joel A. Erickson,
who joined us last hour, had a great point. We're
not privy to seeing what everybody sees. So my judgment
is these guys look very similar. But when you look

(01:36:46):
at Anthony Richardson with this group, he also has a past,
and he also has two signature moments that I bet
still plays a role, the tapping on the helmet and
then get into job ode and you're going to go
with somebody that can better position this team offensively to

(01:37:08):
be at its best. That's what you're going with. So
to me, it's not just stichen and ballared and just
an organizational failure. At some point, you got to stop
talking about how young this guy is and I'm sorry,
You've got to get all growns up here, and you

(01:37:33):
have to accept that responsibility. And if it doesn't take play, okay,
let's just say, for example, he has accepted a responsibility.
Maybe there is just no acumen to take hold or
grab a hold of it. Maybe he's always going to
be all or nothing. Maybe he's going to be the
equivalent of baseball's Rob Deer. He's either going to hit

(01:37:55):
a home run or strikeout, and this team doesn't want
all the caves and we can analogy this thing up
until we are all blue in the face. But clearly
they are taking a guy in week number one that
they trust with the football more than the other. That

(01:38:18):
to me, in your number three, for Anthony Richardson as
a top five pick and Daniel Jones as a six
year guy twenty games under five hundred, that is saying
we have failed. But it's weird, right when you play
games like this, you can still make it up in

(01:38:42):
the moment and we'll all sit back and watch and
see if this team is able to do with Daniel Jones.
But it's everybody's fault on this. You can't excuse Anthony Richardson.

Speaker 16 (01:39:00):
Me.

Speaker 4 (01:39:00):
You can only be young and inexperienced and not ready
for so long. And that's where we are right two
thirty nine, ten seventy. And I promise you a lot
of calls and we're going to get to them right here.
We'll start with Adam Online one. Hello, Adam, how are.

Speaker 1 (01:39:19):
You, hey, John?

Speaker 4 (01:39:21):
How you doing, Adam? I'm great? What do you got
on this subject?

Speaker 22 (01:39:24):
Well, I mean I'm not too happy.

Speaker 1 (01:39:27):
I know.

Speaker 22 (01:39:27):
Back in the past we used to say, you know,
the sports arousal. I don't think that's going to happen
very much since season, except for watching the defense and
make some awesome plays like they have in the past
to help save us.

Speaker 7 (01:39:40):
I don't know.

Speaker 22 (01:39:40):
I just I feel like they should have given it
to ar I don't really trust Dgal Knowns, but again
it's not my call. All I do know is that
I'm a season ticket member, and I know just as
well as you do. We were all in their Saturday
and as soon as they are stepped on the field,
they were hooting and hollering and clapping and wave.

Speaker 1 (01:40:00):
But when Daniel.

Speaker 22 (01:40:01):
Jones stepped out to begin, it was dead silent. So
I mean that should tell something of the fan, like
we know what's going on in the building.

Speaker 4 (01:40:10):
Well, I can tell you this. There are a lot
of people on Daniel Jones' side. But as I mentioned before, Adam,
the younger generational fans love Anthony Richardson because they view
him in a way in which nobody else does, in
a way that they only can now. I don't fully
understand why he gets that much leverage in this case

(01:40:33):
from a fan base, but there is still a great
deal of hope. But I think that just comes with
being such an Adonnis type of athlete to where you
think you can get over on everybody. There are so
many that still believe that, and they want to see that.
They want to see, you know, I mentioned those hail
Married type of plays where they're highlight reels. There are

(01:40:55):
not enough of them, and the problem is he doesn't
make the easy stuff. But a lot of people kind
of view those highlight reels as who he really is,
and you want to see more, and they expect to
see more, and they hate this decision. But you know,
at the same time, I would say, you look at
all the poles, all the polls, what Richardson they do.

(01:41:17):
But I don't think it's going to be as bad
in week number one in that stadium as what others
think it's it's going to be. I think there's going
to be like, you're going to have a week and
a half of time pass and then if there's any
success whatsoever, at least for that moment, that's going to
wipe the slate clean at least for the moment.

Speaker 22 (01:41:37):
Yeah, And I mean, I'm just I hope we wipe
the old dolphins out when they come in here, just
because no better.

Speaker 4 (01:41:44):
You know the word.

Speaker 22 (01:41:46):
The word has been put out, so now everybody knows,
so they're already prepping. Okay, Djay is going to be
a starting quarterback. We don't have to worry about the
brick house of Anthony Richardson.

Speaker 4 (01:41:57):
Yeah. I think it's unless obviously Daniel Jones gets injured.
You're going to see him again. But I think effectively
his career is over here. Man, it's going to go
down in history as a massive bust to say the least, Adam,
anything else. All I'm saying is, hey, look who through
the last part of that game, Jason Bean. He gave

(01:42:19):
us a little flash of hope to Jillohnny Woods. And
good for Jillnny Woods for catching that toe tap. I
just wish it would have counted. But I mean, I
still think Rany Leonard.

Speaker 22 (01:42:29):
And Jason Bean both show better, better optimism than Daniel
Jones in my.

Speaker 4 (01:42:34):
Opinion, Adam, I appreciate that call. Do it again soon, buddy,
Great to see you. We'll do see and there in
lives and issue. When you don't have a quarterback and
it's as bad as this, you also believe everybody's your quarterback,
or everybody can be your quarterback. Then you start naming names.
This guy's the quarterback, this guy's the quarterback. What is

(01:42:56):
not true?

Speaker 23 (01:42:56):
It's like Sam Ellinger all over again.

Speaker 4 (01:43:00):
Yes, everybody, and it's not true because he couldn't play,
and as of right now, these dudes can't play. That
is just the circumstance of not having a quarterback. And
that's why it is so impactful, the most important position
in professional sports. With the NDY eleven tomorrow, I'm going

(01:43:25):
to see you over at Carroll Stadium. By the way,
Brian writes this, So what happens if Daniel Jones is
successful and they make the postseason, Well, we're going to
be in this same stinking spot next year. Are you excited, Brian? Seriously,
we're gonna be sitting right here, Brian, you and I
are sitting right here talking about the same thing this
time next year. That is life without a quarterback. Look

(01:43:53):
how Minnesota fell. They lose their rookie Sam Donald comes in,
has a great regular season and leads them to the
postseason and then completely craps the bed. And look how
they feel about him now that he's gone. It's incredible.
But you'll be right back, Brian, You and I will

(01:44:16):
be sitting right here. I'll be going I can't believe
they don't have a quarterback and will blah blah. You're
supposed to be able to do this and they can't
do that. Chris Bellard, you're ten. Seriously you think I'm joking.
I'm not joking. From Chad. Shout out to Chad Stacy
in Madison County. Can the shop make a needlestick pos shirt?

(01:44:42):
We're trying. William writes, this ar will follow the career
arc of Miles Turner. I'm trying to figure that one out. Actually,
Miles had some Richardson has had had no moments none.

(01:45:03):
Miles had moments like it or not. Miles was a
part of a team that went seven games in the
NBA Finals, something that's never been done here. Miles was
a part of that. Now, he sucked in the finals,
but he was a part of the reason why they
were there. What do you know, Anthony Richardson, for off

(01:45:24):
the top of your head right now, you're gonna say
tapping out and pinky being sideways, Then you don't want
to be known as tapping out in sideways pinky guy. Well,
I'm pissed at Miles too, But Miles was a part
of a team that did bring tremendous joy to a

(01:45:45):
place that has been somewhat joyless for a number of
years in professional sports, and helped take a group to
a spot this organization has never seen. So as Richardson
on the block, you know, I would say no, John,

(01:46:08):
But I would also if I'm a team out there,
I say the term I use the term jacking around
all the time. I'm just kind of jacking around. I
would just maybe feel around a little bit, see what happens.
I mean, maybe if the guy here's not a quarterback guru,
a guy someplace else is, do I believe it?

Speaker 16 (01:46:28):
No?

Speaker 4 (01:46:28):
Do I think it's going to happen? Absolutely not. But hell,
we're in La la land anyway. With all this crap
we've all been. We've all been, I think disappointingly football
Stone for the past seven out of like eight years

(01:46:49):
or so. It's brutal. That's why we're all kind of
hoping on this decision being the right decision. With Daniel Jones,
I want to see you guys be able to celebrate
and have some fun. I want to have some fun
talking about it. I want to say, you know, what
Daniel Jones, that was the right call. Well, you know what,
this is a good season for this group, and hey,

(01:47:11):
look at guys like Jonathan Taylor to Forrest Buckner. Now
I like Moony a great deal. I like buying them
like guys on that team. I want to see these
guys be able to succeed. But I can't sit up
here and say it's going to happen unless I believe
it to happen, and seeing's believing in this case. Joe's

(01:47:33):
online three at two three nine ten seventy. Joe Daniel
Jones is the starting quarterback in the Week one. Are
you thrilled?

Speaker 16 (01:47:40):
Yes, yes, I am. I think he'll do well. I
think he'll have a really good season, and I hope
the Colts have a really good season. Even though Anthony
Richardson's beginni bench, I still think he's going to come
along and I still think he'll be a good Quarterback's
just going to take him a while.

Speaker 1 (01:47:56):
I had a.

Speaker 16 (01:47:56):
Quick statement I wanted to make back in the day.
I remember old Tony Sarahgusa Yes, may God bless him, Yes,
held a nose tackle for the Colts for years, and
he made a comment that he said that through the years,
the NFL would pay big bucks to a person that's
unproven and not pay the men that's been in the

(01:48:19):
trenches for years. The mindset has been proven.

Speaker 4 (01:48:22):
Right, there's true to that, I mean, and I think
the comparisons have been made before. You kind of view
Richardson viewed like this, this unpolished diamond, right, and it's
almost like you're kind of damned if you're doing damned
if you don't. But it is worse in many eyes

(01:48:44):
if you skip over somebody like that, and that somebody
ends up doing well in another organization, that if you
end up missing on that particular player, right, and we
know that to be true. You think about, you know,
teams of the past regarding you know, Kevin Garnett, you
know the Pacers, example is Jonathan Bender. There are many
examples of that. You just put all this stock into

(01:49:07):
a player because of the eyeball test, the athleticism, and
it's always always going to be bad if it doesn't
work out, but it's going to always be worse if
it does work out, and it work out works out
somewhere else. So you always have people that think they
can do it, and you know in the Colt's case,

(01:49:27):
they're making a change over. They're going a heavy offense
and somebody and change psychin that had a great deal
of success coming in here as the head coach, and
he liked the idea evidently of bringing Richardson in and
he was going to polish that diamond into something. And
this is not how it was supposed to be here.
And unfortunately that's problematic for everybody over there, including the

(01:49:52):
head coach, because this is a decision he makes that
is also highly critical the job that he has done,
the failure that he has had getting this guy prepared
to be a starter in year three in the NFL
for the team that picked him number four. Overall, those
are things you can't sidestep.

Speaker 16 (01:50:13):
Very well, put thanks for your approval.

Speaker 4 (01:50:15):
What else she got?

Speaker 1 (01:50:16):
Joe opinion?

Speaker 16 (01:50:18):
It was sad to hear that old Sophie Cunningham got
hurt for the Fever. And I know that you are
direct TV person, we also had direct TV. Can you
watch all the games of the Fever, either by streaming
or direct TV or some of them just nut shouting.

Speaker 4 (01:50:34):
I'll be honest with you, I don't know half the
time where the hell they are. I don't. I don't,
I don't, and then I don't have the patience to look,
and I just say the hell with it. I'll just
go someplace else to watch fifteen miss layups. So yes,
I mean that part drives me nuts. Now we'll say
this because he's a friend of the show. I'm hardcore
gonna find Pat Boyle in someplace. I like Pat, I

(01:50:56):
like his calls. But I'll be damned if I'm all
over all night long to find out on what night
of the week this team is playing. So if it's
not easy, I'm not doing it. And the NBA is
going to be problematic on this. I think we're gonna
have problems across the board with this, with the streaming
services and channels and networks and all this. You're gonna

(01:51:18):
lose a lot of us. If it's that time and
that effort to find these things that drives me nuts. Yep,
maybe I should I should be better, certainly smarter. Unfortunately
I'm not. Joe.

Speaker 1 (01:51:29):
What else, Yeah, that's it.

Speaker 16 (01:51:31):
I know. Well, I full Slick was still alive, he'd
be saying boom Baby would hit hit three point and.

Speaker 4 (01:51:36):
Yeah, well I will give them credit too. I mean,
there get the head above water with this. It is
unbelievable what they put up with injury wise, So I'll
give them full credit. And I'm going to tell you
what the savior of the league, the team and everything.
If Caitlin Clark ever comes back and gets this thing
going in the right direction. I mean, that's legendary stuff

(01:51:58):
right there. So we'll see if the table is set
for her who to be the legendary status that many
people believe that she should be.

Speaker 16 (01:52:05):
There's so much talent in the WNBA, and I know
the fever could go far, especially if everybody gets healthy.

Speaker 4 (01:52:10):
Thanks you, Joe, Thank you for the call. JMV. Only
seventy one days until the Pacer season opener. Hang in there, Bud,
and always remember three is better than two, Brett. There
is no greater description. Three is better than two? Why
am I jacking around with it? Two? Hey, your fifteen
footer went in great? I know that makes me sound

(01:52:35):
like analytics nerd. Right there, my bad. Hey JMV. Smitty
here aka Chad, that's Smitty's barbershop. I'm gonna go over
there and get my haircut. I'm gonna get barbered. Actually,
I think Smeditty's playing a little hoopage with us later
on tonight. Too well done, Smitty James. That's Smitty that
I called Chad all Sunday morning along. Hey, Chad Uh

(01:52:57):
hates of the decision at first, but Shane's prescot settled
me down. I still don't think Richardson's career here is
over yet. I think he gets one more shot at
some point in this season because of injury or an effectiveness.
Bill Pullying was remarkable, which is why he's a Hall
of Famer. However, even he could not win a Super

(01:53:19):
Bowl without one of the greatest quarterbacks of all time.
That's just how it is, JMB. Sometimes you get served
a mountain dew bottle full of whiz. You drink up
or you don't. It's an unsavory situation either way. That's
from Coop. Wait a minute, I'm trying to break down

(01:53:39):
that analogy of your mountain new bottle full of whiz
right here. You got served a mountain new bottle full
of whiz. That's unfortunate.

Speaker 23 (01:53:51):
What are you in the desert with no other options?

Speaker 4 (01:53:53):
I some wiz right here?

Speaker 1 (01:53:58):
Uh.

Speaker 4 (01:53:58):
Chris Hutton writes this, typically, I would never think this
but I think they should tank for arch Manning next year.
I think the problem is arch Manning is going to
get more money going back to Texas next year than
he would going into the NFL as a rookie. So
I don't know if he would come out. Yeah, sure
as hell. Don't know if they're going to be bad
enough for them to be all the way up there

(01:54:18):
to have a shot at anybody the Nussmeyer character from
LSU or anybody else for that matter. So that does
kind of make this problematic. Bill's at two three, nine,
ten seventy, Bill, jump on here before the break. What
you got brother?

Speaker 1 (01:54:34):
Hey Jamie, we're going to be at this week? Yeah, anywhere.

Speaker 4 (01:54:37):
I'm at the Indy eleven tomorrow at Carroll Stadium. However, Buddy,
next week starts a run of incredible weekly events that
I want you to be fully a part of everyone,
And it starts with Sids and Noblesville a week from
Thursday on a tavern tour stop and it will be

(01:54:58):
never ending. Don't stop until January, Billy or are you
up for it? And by the way, too, shout out
to Mike Manley because Mike sent me a text the
other day. You clearly tell him every time we talked
about Manley's Irish model on this show, and he's very
appreciative of that.

Speaker 1 (01:55:15):
Billy, Well, I do, and I appreciate that. That's my
home away from home. So yes, well, wait till you
get there.

Speaker 4 (01:55:24):
You are going to be with us, buddy, and it
is going to be spectacu. I would advise everybody, especially
next week SIDS in Noblesville on Thursday, Mystic Waters Campground,
Friday and Saturday, it is going to be an epic
Labor Day weekend. Bender. I can't wait to see you
all up there, Billy, you included.

Speaker 1 (01:55:44):
Absolutely, Man, I'll be there. Hey. I wanted to say
a couple a couple of things. Carly Gordon Ursay said
it best a couple of weeks ago when she gained
that interview, and when she was asked about Anthony Richardson,
she concluded her fault was saying, if he wants it
bad enough, that's That's pretty much a quote from her.
And you know she's on the sideline. She's on the

(01:56:05):
sideline down there with with the players and everything. Even
though she's not in the huddle, she can probably sense
a few things. She's a smart football person, been around
the game for a long time, so I think that, uh,
I think that she kind of tipped the hand of
what Anthony Richardson needed to do. And and everybody knows
that there's a coach and a GM salvating out in
the NFL thinking that they can fix him. Just give

(01:56:27):
me a shot to fix them, So I say, hold
on to them until somebody gets to be desperate enough.

Speaker 4 (01:56:33):
Somebody going to take it. So I mean, hell, that
took a swing at Trey Lance. Why did you not
take a swing at him too one of these days? So, yes,
that's absolutely going to occur.

Speaker 1 (01:56:40):
Billy, Yeah, I absolutely think Shanahan would be uh a
guy that would take a shot at Anthony Richardson. But
I wanted to pivot a little bit here and talk
about Johnny Furby the Pacers. I think that he's going
to get some significant minutes this year. He had a
I think he had a pretty good summer. This guy
can shoot from outside, he's got good hops, and if

(01:57:01):
he puts on some weight and like everybody else, you know,
he picks up the defense a little bit. I think
we're going to see a lot of Johnny Purpy this
upcoming year. What do you think?

Speaker 4 (01:57:12):
I think? Yes? Are you a believer like me that
this team's going to be a hell of a lot
better than what people suggest?

Speaker 1 (01:57:19):
Absolutely, me too, Budd, Unquestionably me too. But that's fine,
that's fine. Give me, show us a disrespect card, show
the Pacers a disrespect card. You eat it in June.

Speaker 4 (01:57:29):
You got that right, Billy. I can't wait. Next week
is going to be spectacular. Make sure you're with us.

Speaker 1 (01:57:34):
Okay, we'll do then see you later.

Speaker 4 (01:57:37):
Jimmy and Broderpool writes this JV. I can't help but
feel that Daniel Jones experiment will be the same as
the Joe Flacco experiment. Gardner Flacco, Joe minshew, We're going
to be proven a veteran to run this offense, and
he's not going to get the job done. Crap. We
got to go back to Richardson. The organization has been

(01:57:59):
an ep since Ballard out here. Can we please have
a change. I've said this all along too. If Richardson
didn't start in a week Number one, why are we
here now? One? We have to be here, But why
are we here? Why have things not dramatically changed? It
is an indictment on the organization. It's indictment on the

(01:58:21):
head coach, general manager, the quarterback himself. And we'll see
what Daniel Jones can do in week number one. Because
Colts fans, that's your starter. And again the bar's very low.
Go out there and kick the crap out of Miami.
Gets daughter with a win for once in a thousand

(01:58:41):
years in a Week number one, it's in Miami secondary
that's either dinged up or defected the hell out of
South Florida. That's how you change some minds. That's how
you change some opinions. In week number one quick break,
we'll come back your calls. Rick Carlisle extended, Sophie Cunningham
done back after this.

Speaker 3 (01:59:04):
The ride with JMV I won you on in.

Speaker 4 (01:59:07):
Front of the school with I have a few Words
with you by.

Speaker 3 (01:59:09):
God ninety three five and one oh seven five the fan,
Oh crank it up?

Speaker 11 (01:59:14):
What is it?

Speaker 4 (01:59:14):
Week three with the throwback on CBS of the old
school NFL Today with Brent Musburger cranking James. Our fantasy
football league will need participants. The intangibles of that would

(01:59:35):
be we select you to be a part of it.
How many teams or individuals or players are we going
to have.

Speaker 23 (01:59:42):
There are twelve total teams, so there are ten open spots.

Speaker 4 (01:59:45):
I am giving away your en samples. No, actually, I'm
giving away samples from heaven Hill Distillery. I am not
giving away your en samples. I don't want you getting
into that. I'll get in trouble. But yeah, all A,

(02:00:06):
how should I put this a bucket full of samples
from Heaven Held Distillery? You know what? We need to
add something else to. I wonder if I could just
go ahead and throw somebody else in right now with
gift cards. We know a lot of people out there
that have gift cards. I bet Tommy Yes would like
to be involved in this for sure. Nally now Tommy

(02:00:28):
s coaches Tavern Nally Joe's Grill, Free Spirit, Kyle Taylor's Pub.
The three locations two one Endies, north Side one an
Ingles or Angles, Ooh, rob Berangers, Manly Manly's Irish munt. Yeah,

(02:00:52):
I'm gonna add more. It may not all be like
the prize, may not all be what it is at
the end. I'm gonna keep working on that. James, what's
the timetable for getting bodies into this?

Speaker 5 (02:01:08):
Well?

Speaker 23 (02:01:09):
I believe Let me look it up here on the app.
I can't remember the exact day. I believe it's two
weeks from yesterday is when I had scheduled the draft.
But we can still adjust that if we want to
do it on a weekend. But I'm hoping by the
end of next week to have the entire league, everybody
in there, everybody ready to go.

Speaker 4 (02:01:25):
Well, hell, that will be our fantasy football league. Let's
do it, all right? This from Greg. The NFL is
a passing league, and Richardson can't pass. When your main
skill is being a human wrecking ball and you can't
stay healthy, your borderline useless drafting Richardson was nothing more

(02:01:50):
than hubris. Now, I'm gonna have to look that up.
I don't really know what that means. Define Hubert's for me,
would you? The coach and general manager thought they could
get something out of him that nobody else could because
they were just so good.

Speaker 23 (02:02:03):
Hubris is excessive pride or self confidence.

Speaker 4 (02:02:06):
Oh hubris. I don't think I've ever used that in
a sentence before. Thank you, Greg, I will use that now.
I have a great deal of hubris. What I'm hooping
a great deal of hubris. The stuff that we have

(02:02:27):
seen from Richardson with our own eyes is garbage. There
was a play against the Packers where Richardson made about
a twenty five yard completion down the field that all
seemed great until you saw the play from a different
angle and the running back was wide open down the sideline.
He just doesn't see stuff that he's supposed to see.

(02:02:48):
They're in lies. The reason Daniel Jones is going to
be the starter in the week number one, or at
least one of the reasons, A handful of them. YEA
save the urine sample for ask pat when a caller
needs help keeping animals away from their garden, I will see.
I got to go enough, Paully. I know that for sure.

Speaker 8 (02:03:09):
Man.

Speaker 4 (02:03:10):
It's like I've got a path in one to the
bathroom every night. I don't know what that's about. There's
not even any I don't know if there's any. I
used to have kind of a sponge going on somewhere bladderwise.
I think it just goes from my throat right to mind. Yeah,
it's just a straight time right out, doesn't stop anywhere,

(02:03:36):
free flowing, you're saying, Brandon Wrights. Unfortunately, Richardson had the
elite physical talent but nothing else. Proven injury prone, proven
bad decisions on the field, and proven immaturity and a
gross lack of awareness with that tap out. That's a
bad combination for a quarterback and Brandon, You're right, that
has proven costly. Two three, nine, ten seventy is that number?

(02:03:57):
Leon is up next on Live five. Hello Leon? How
are you all right?

Speaker 24 (02:04:01):
How are you doing JAMV?

Speaker 1 (02:04:04):
Yeah?

Speaker 24 (02:04:04):
I got a few comments. The first one is you
mentioned Bill Pollion, and if you think about the best
era of coach football in Indianapolis, it was doing the
Bill Pollion era. To compare that era to valad era,
you know, it's it's shameful. He valid has taking us
back to the coach before Bill Pollon. Yes, I'm not

(02:04:29):
anti Daniel Jones. He's a colt and I support all
the coats and I helped them to all be successful.
But I'd have to be honest. There was nothing I
saw in the preseason games or nothing I heard on
this show from people that attended the camp that said

(02:04:50):
indicated that he separated himself from Richardson. So it's like
he didn't win the job. He was handed the job,
and he was handed the job before. Can't even start it.
That's how it's seats to me.

Speaker 4 (02:05:03):
To me, it's just he handles the team better, he
handles everything better. And I think what Shansteiken described to
us today, Leon is he believes Richardson to be a
one trick guy. All right, occasionally the big play and

(02:05:23):
that's it.

Speaker 24 (02:05:25):
And to that point, Ballot should be held accountable.

Speaker 4 (02:05:28):
For that because Stik should. Yeah, I mean.

Speaker 24 (02:05:35):
Chance, Remember he was so bad that Earstley had to
step in and do his job.

Speaker 4 (02:05:40):
But here's and here's the bank here, Leon, is the
fact that if you go with the guy that you
truly believe in and then all of a sudden you
end up, you know, pushing into the postseason or you know,
whatever it's going to take to come back again, you
give yourself. They feel that they give themselves and this
team more of an opportunity to win and be successful

(02:06:00):
with Jones than they do Richardson. And that is an
indictment on Ballard and Ssiching and on absolutely everybody that
thought that they could concoct a plan, an idea to
turn this physical specimen into an NFL quarterback, which clearly
in your number three if you're not able to start
in week one, you know, over a guy that's twenty

(02:06:21):
games under five hundred after six seasons in the NFL.
You have failed at doing that.

Speaker 24 (02:06:27):
Yes, And I think it's a bigger impactment on Ballot
because this was his last last chance after all his
other fiascos, and this didn't work out. He should be
terminated immediately, not ssiching. I think Stychen should give be
given a season to work without the albatross of Ballard
around his neck.

Speaker 4 (02:06:47):
I don't know. I'd like to wonder how that whole
thought process went between Shane and Ballard and Ersa Gordon.
I'd like to know. I kind of wonder if it
was like two v one or if this was a
unanimous decision. I know it was ultimately Shane's decision, but
I would like to know the opinion of the other two.
I guess we never will.

Speaker 1 (02:07:09):
Well.

Speaker 24 (02:07:09):
I clearly remember when Richardson was drafted before the camp
started that Stiken said, Minshew is our starter, and you know,
and Richardson was his backup. And then two days later,
apparently after a meeting with Ballad, oh, all of a sudden,
we've just been so impressed with Richardson, He's our starter.

(02:07:33):
It made no sense. That was the ballot move, and
ballot should be held accountable for that. Everybody in the
league knew, I mean everybody in the entire.

Speaker 4 (02:07:41):
Football Yeah, and you would that.

Speaker 1 (02:07:43):
Richardson wasn't ready.

Speaker 4 (02:07:44):
Yeah, Leon, here's the thing. I said this all and
thank you for the call man you call anytime. I
appreciate it. I said this all along. If Richardson wasn't
able to start in week number one, I don't know
why we're all here now. You could also argue that
had everybody been gone after this past year and they
do start new and they have Daniel Jones, our quarterback

(02:08:05):
like that, that we would be right now viewing this
in a similar situation, but there would be a new
and freshness. There probably would be a younger quarterback in here.
I don't know who would be. It wasn't a robust
or after a year ago, I realized that, but you
might have a little bit more hope than just hanging
on to that fleeting feeling that maybe something can happen

(02:08:29):
this year that hasn't happened in a long time, and
rarely has happened under the watch of the general manager,
and certainly has yet to happen going into year number
three of the head coach. I just don't really know
why we're all here with this right now. If Richardson
was going to be deemed once again not ready to

(02:08:51):
start in week number one, but here we are. Here
we are uh JMV that Hubris not hummus. Hummus is
the spreadable that you put that on crackers and stuff, right,

(02:09:12):
Smitty's barber Shop wants to give a free gift card.
Throw that in there too. The I want to get barbered.
I'm gonna start using Is that a verb? Is that
a verbal adjective? Barbered verb?

Speaker 23 (02:09:28):
Well, you're using it as a verb. I didn't know
you could turn the word barber into a verb.

Speaker 4 (02:09:33):
See I are, But you know me, I actually transfer
everything into an adjective like I think that I use right,
a lot of descripture descriptions. Smitty's Barbershop.

Speaker 23 (02:09:49):
Yes, Well, what's crazy is I just looked it up
and apparently that's you can you can use barbered as
an actual word. I didn't realize that was an actual word.
I thought that was you just making something up.

Speaker 4 (02:09:59):
What do you think you're dealing with over here?

Speaker 23 (02:10:01):
Professional?

Speaker 4 (02:10:02):
Yes, barbered? Thank you, Smitty Hey, quick break, we'll come
back with you guys for the final time. So is
this dude's name really the other white Meat? That's what
I was told, the Other white Meat? What do you
think this is going to be about? Right here? I'm interested.
I don't think I've ever received a call from the
other white Meat? Is that pork? Does it go by Pork?

Speaker 23 (02:10:24):
I think Pork is technically the other white meat.

Speaker 4 (02:10:26):
I always wanted my name to be pork, but nobody
ever went for it.

Speaker 23 (02:10:30):
You really wanted?

Speaker 4 (02:10:32):
Yeah, but pork, I'm not like not like work the pig.

Speaker 23 (02:10:35):
What age was this.

Speaker 4 (02:10:39):
Yesterday? Oh hey, quick break? Final time, don't go anywhere.
Daniel Jones is your starter in case you missed it.
Rick Carlisle extended today and Sophie Cunningham of the Fever
done for the season, The Reds of Winter last night.
We'll get to that and a lot more odds and
ends in your calls, and we'll see exactly what the

(02:10:59):
Other white Meat is all about.

Speaker 3 (02:11:01):
Next The Ride with JMV. Fat, Drunken, Stupid, There's no
way to go through Life Style ninety three to five
and one oh seven five The Fan.

Speaker 4 (02:11:13):
Sorry about Dead Dean Warmer too, late, Hey, Craig, this
portrait up right here. This is early nineties fantastic music.
Most of you believe the Colts are once again in
this situation. James, what's the song called.

Speaker 23 (02:11:31):
It's called Here we Go Again.

Speaker 4 (02:11:33):
Goddess is a great song going through the same things.
Here we Go Again. It had worked well on nothing
but the nineties. So is this Shawn Williams the winner
right here? Is that Shawn Williams from Greenwood? My friend
Shawn Williams.

Speaker 23 (02:11:48):
It very well could be.

Speaker 4 (02:11:51):
You think there's more than one.

Speaker 23 (02:11:52):
There might be more than one.

Speaker 4 (02:11:53):
Used to be a Sewan Williams that played basketball here
for the Pacers. There's also a Shawn Williams at Sinegrove.

Speaker 23 (02:12:01):
It could be any one of those that.

Speaker 4 (02:12:02):
Has a son named TJ and a son named Kyle.
And then occasionally we'll back out really late, notice in
morning basketball, which is you can't tell, right I hate
that saw a great deal. So you don't know if

(02:12:23):
this is the Shawn Williams.

Speaker 23 (02:12:24):
It probably is, but I'm just going I just picked
randomly on I.

Speaker 4 (02:12:28):
Don't know if there's more than one Shawn Williams here.
But the horse's name was JK. The Great paid eight
dollars on a two dollars bet. The two dollars exact,
it was thirty sixty to fifty cent trifecta sixteen seventy
five fifty in betting fifty and dining to maybe the
Shawn Williams around Sinte Grove. Shout out to Jenny Williams. Actually,

(02:12:53):
Jenny Williams is better than Shawn Williams in a lot
of ways. Nah, good folks, they really are har's hoo'shia
park Rice of the day. We do it again tomorrow
in the five o'clock hour. All right, let's shed a
little light on this other white meat person right here. Hello,
the other white meat. Shall we call you pork or

(02:13:15):
halib it? How you doing, jamb Great?

Speaker 5 (02:13:20):
I go back to the WNDE days, the TWM from there.

Speaker 4 (02:13:24):
Oh man, that is a long time ago. There are
some were you ever in the old school baggery back
then with that group.

Speaker 5 (02:13:34):
I still got the MS Douce baggy T shirt?

Speaker 4 (02:13:37):
Oh yeah, that is the I do too. I just
saw that the other day. Man, do you remember some
of those names that no longer are with us?

Speaker 5 (02:13:46):
Internet? Hate Machine Internet?

Speaker 4 (02:13:48):
I hope IHM is still with us. Is he still
with us?

Speaker 12 (02:13:51):
Do you know?

Speaker 4 (02:13:52):
I hope IHM is still with us? What about Cheesy Nips?
Have we heard from him recently? I haven't, No, I haven't.

Speaker 5 (02:14:00):
Don't even live in India anymore. I'm all the way
down in North Carolina.

Speaker 4 (02:14:02):
Oh man, Well we mentioned I love the fact you're
reading up. I hum, and cheesy Dips just made my day.
That's well done.

Speaker 5 (02:14:10):
What do you got, hey, so you're right on psyching.

Speaker 1 (02:14:14):
That's a bolt fout.

Speaker 16 (02:14:16):
Uh.

Speaker 5 (02:14:18):
He's such a he's such an office and genius. I
think if he puts Richardson and Jones in the backfield
at the same time, put him in the shotgun. Tyler
Warren's got QB experience, put him in the pistol, and
now you got the double barreled shotgun with the pistol
in your pocket.

Speaker 1 (02:14:31):
Offense, I think it'll work.

Speaker 4 (02:14:33):
What I do wonder if in maybe goal line situations,
if they don't run something like that. Now you also
recognize that they have Tyler Warren and he's probably going
to be utilized in some capacity like that too. But
it does make you want.

Speaker 5 (02:14:47):
It's going to be huge. He's going to be huge.
He'll be he'll be Jones's uh you know, security blanket
back there. Yeah, if he if he doesn't get hurt,
everybody's getting hurt this year. This is a weird, weird
off season. I think unfortunately the Haliburton injury is rubbed
off on everybody in Indianapolis.

Speaker 4 (02:15:06):
It sucks the other white meat. A shout out to
Nick on the east side. Where's he today? I haven't
heard from him in forever. I have no idea either. Man,
those are the good old days. Remember how many times
everybody this is true story. Everybody from Chris Hagen to
Dan dowckets tried to get that shut down because these
guys are so mean, and the focus was at me.

(02:15:32):
I mean I got the focus of it. Yes, and
he's still mad about that picture of him eating a
piece of steak from Sullivan's Steakhouse. Well done, man again
soon good to hear from you. All Right, the old
school baggery right there, that's classic. I'm telling you, everybody,

(02:15:53):
you've got to shut that down. Can you shut that down?
That is a true story. Ramon two ten seventy, How.

Speaker 1 (02:16:01):
Are you all right, Jamie?

Speaker 18 (02:16:04):
Thanks for taking my car, Donny. Yeah, you know, everybody's
made their comments and you know, we can see what
this is, but you know his history repeats itself a lot.
I read a statu in Pro Football Focus of the.

Speaker 1 (02:16:18):
Last ten years, and you may heard this.

Speaker 18 (02:16:20):
Of the last ten years, there are nineteen.

Speaker 19 (02:16:22):
Franchises that got an under five hundred record, and the
coach is one of them. It seemed like when you're bad,
you're bad for a long time. NFL does great marketing,
but when you talk about nineteen franchises with an under
five hundred record in the last ten years, you know
something's wrong with the league. And it starts at the
general managers and meets owners and thinking these quarterbacks. Jeff

(02:16:46):
Garcia did a study and he's found out that over
sixty five percent of first round draft pick quarterbacks don't
pan out.

Speaker 4 (02:16:55):
Hey, Ramote, what's been going on with it? I love
what you're saying. I got a run here. That's the
music called call back in Tomorrow, and share this more.
I like the stature giving right here, man, Ramon call
back in tomorrow. If you're on hold priority status for
you tomorrow. Daniel Jones is the Week one starter. I'm
at Carol Stadium with the eleven and more of this

(02:17:15):
Dialogue tomorrow at three. Don't miss it. Thanks for the time.

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