Full Show: Colts Training Camp Update As The Pads Come On!

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Speaker 1 (00:10):
And where we go here?

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Why Jonathan Taylor Wheeler finds born.

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shot here fs it John.

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with you here in Indianapolis, a place where so many
of my dreams have come true.

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oh seven five, the fan back here and.

Speaker 3 (00:56):
I hope you had a great weekend. Walls made some
history out of an IMS yesterday. I'm just assuming a
lot of you, those that were out there, you are
probably just saying, please, no more delays, Please, no more
over time, please no more rain, because it was about
a thousand degrees. I will say this, if you were

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out there, you are among the heartiest of fans of racing,
of IMS. I've said this before. I think that in
general terms, whenever the doors or the gates or whatever
are open for IMS. It's always a good thing when
people are out there. There's always some sort of way
to celebrate, whether you're celebrating in the now with a moment,

(01:41):
with a race, with an event like yesterday, or just
celebrating in your mind the history, those great times that
you've spent over there, the times you've met with your
family now. Jake talks about this all the time, just
the generational effect that that venue has on people. It
is a tradition, but around here it is a family tradition.

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But the hardiest of the hardy would be out there
yesterday and Bubba Wallace holds off Kyle Larson. Kyle Larson
was going for his second consecutive and Bubba Wallace made
some history. And that was an IMS yesterday at the

(02:27):
brick Yard four hundred and what concluded, I think from
the most part, everybody from Lucas Oil Raceway on Friday
night with the Truck Series race that really wasn't much
of a race. It was a domination the Exfinity Series
on Saturday and all that was in between. And while
maybe not a lot of people were concentrating on that yesterday,

(02:49):
maybe you checked out the Indiana fever getting a win something.
We'll discuss a little bit of a momentum build hopefully.
I know for a lot of you who are counting
down to the next two, three, maybe four days for
some families before the kids go back to school, maybe
a week I think for CG I think they're back,

(03:11):
coming up on either Thursday or Friday. But yes, summer
is officially summer vacation for most. I know the educators
are probably back right now. Shout out to you educators
that are back right now. But for the most part,
everything is back into gear. I tell you, you wait so

(03:32):
long for the summertime and the summer vacation, and my goodness,
if you get blanked up at all with weather, and
people often say, and it's true, well, you can't really
blame it on the weather. You have no control of
the weather. And while that is accurate, what really sucks
about it is you go back to the middle of May,

(03:53):
basically all the way to Father's Day weekend, and the
weather around here wasn't great. We had to make up
for some lost time, and now you're finding, more than
likely your kids you are all ready to go back.
It is back to school time. Yeah, we have a
busy show. I think that the way things have gone

(04:16):
so far with the whole quarterback competition, and again, all
this is going to change once things get absolutely real.
I mean this right now. Other than a d Mitchell
not being able to catch a cold out there, I mean,
things aren't real just yet. They're real for the players

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and for the organization. But you have, you know, like
Steven hold is going to join us in the five
o'clock hour, you have the documentation of what is going
on the stats keepers in practice, and then you're going
to have them tell the practice story and or opine
regarding what takes place in practice. So you really haven't
had a legitimate opportunity to test that with your own

(05:01):
eyeballs and then it really matter. So that is still
on the horizon. But what I mean by I think
it's gone well so far. I was a non believer
in this whole competition thing, and in fact, I don't
know if I'm truly absolutely sold, but I think it's

(05:24):
gone well so far. And here's why. If you remember,
I haven't been a believer in the competition. I thought
all along it was going to take just this guy
is so much better and this guy absolutely stinks to
have Daniel Jones start in week number one. And I
know Mike Cheffel comes here all the time. He was

(05:46):
on with Jaco a little bit earlier on with me
on Thursdays and says, you know what, it is absolute
that Richardson has to be the starter. He has to
earn that starting position. And I do realize this that
he has been known for a lot of things, in
most of which on the field, they haven't been good
as far as his availability, the accuracy, just the overall

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translation to an NFL quarterback. It has been a constant tease.
So I do get this after last year and what
took place, you know, in the whole benching and Flacco
coming in, a lot of people felt, including some of
those out there, that there was some entitlement going on.

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And it would stand the reason because you go all
the way back to his rookie season and he's already
thrust into the starting position. So you know, maybe this
squashes some of those theories out there, or I don't
think it's really Probably when you do get down to it,
it was accurate. Probably was hey, this is my gig,

(06:56):
and some entitlement there, So you do at the very
least tests that when you gauge these two and or
put them up against one another publicly in a competition.
But I always thought, going all the way back to
when Chris Ballard talked about this, I always thought that
it was a bunch of bs, because we all know

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what really needs to happen, and that's beyond just wanting.
That's what really needs to happen is some winning and
the lack of mediocrity kind of what we've seen with
the Pacers that really needs to happen, because, as we mentioned,
I had not been around a time and a place
in which there was the amount of apathy of oh yeah,

(07:39):
by the way, the culture started again again, that's great
as we started this year in camp. So I never
was really that much a believer in this competition. I
thought it was just going to take a monumental Daniel
Jones effort combined with an absolute feudal effort by Anthony Richardson,

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and then, if you remember, the whole dialogue started to change.
The season were to start right now, which you know
it wouldn't in May or in June, that Daniel Jones
would end up being the starter because he's out in front.
Then you had this shoulder news and that situation. So

(08:23):
I still really wasn't a believer in it. But I
will say I don't think this has gone badly so far.
You're always going to find those that are going to
believe in one side or the other. You're going to
find and people would categorize me. They probably view me
as a hater. I'm not a hater. I'm a realist. Well,

(08:45):
you're a hater because you've never really believed in it. Well,
you know, it wasn't I never really believed in him.
It's just he has proven that there's not much of
a reason to believe in it until further notice. I
think that is the fair way to look at it. Yeah,
it's judgmental, but that's what you have to do in
terms of a talk show with sports and quarterbacks and

(09:09):
teams and all that crap. Yes it is judge, but
that's what we've witnessed so far. Like, I'm not going
to get one over on one player or the other,
or the fact that some of the younger generation believe
him to be some sort of superhero. Hopefully he is.
Just takes a little bit longer because this team, this

(09:31):
organization needs him to transition into that. But again, it
is going to be something that's going to need to
be proven. And so far, you know, whether you're saying
Richardson is out in front or Jones and Richardson or
Neck and Neck or whatever. The competition part, again, which
I really didn't believe in, I think has gone pretty

(09:53):
well in the almost week long early stages of camp.
For whatever that is worth well. And if that does
fester something within where Richardson can realize the potential that
a lot of people saw within him, that's still the

(10:16):
fan base that believe thoroughly in him have in mind
right now, then.

Speaker 1 (10:21):
So be it.

Speaker 3 (10:24):
But if not, you got to move along. And that's
kind of where we are right now and for a
week or almost a week. Yeah, I really don't mind
this whole competition thing. Now do I believe in it,
But I don't mind it. It's probably really never mattered

(10:46):
in the court of public opinion as much as we
lead it on to be. But kind of interesting to
see the dynamic in the way that is working so far.
This show is going to be out there coming up
on Thursday. I don't know who we're going to talk
but it should be fantastic. I think the weather is
going to turn just in time for my ass to

(11:06):
get up there. I guess I don't care whether it's
hot and sweaty. People are going to say, well, yeah,
that's easy to say when you're in studio, and while
that is true, you know me well enough, it doesn't
really bother me. But we'll be up there for the
first time coming up on Thursday, and I have a
little to zero idea what we're going to be doing
and who we're going to be talking to, but we

(11:27):
shall be ready, promise you with that. If you ever
get a win yesterday, hopefully a second half of the
season and a stretch run is in the forecast for
that group. And by the way, to a return of
good health for Caitlin Clark would be nice too. So
all the Dion Sanders news. A little bit earlier, the

(11:50):
cancerous lump on his bladder bladder removed, he and his
medical staff proclaiming cancer free. That's always good, always good
news to hear. And if you missed it, last week,
Fell Steel of the Fell Steel College Football twenty twenty
five magazine Slash Digital online version. He was on the

(12:14):
show and was absolutely outstanding, especially in part regarding the
Big ten and Notre Dame in the teams you really
truly care about around here, absolutely spectacular. Are you reels
in a big man? We'll get to that. We got
a lot more racing too to get to this to

(12:35):
weekend in general. And then I get hit with this
and you don't relate. Idiot is literally for clicks in conversation,
and it comes from a friend of the show. I
would consider Kevin Pelton a friend of the show. James,
would you not who? By the way, James is back?

(12:58):
Any word on your truck?

Speaker 7 (13:01):
None yet?

Speaker 1 (13:01):
Oh man?

Speaker 3 (13:02):
None? Ya. James had a breakdown, shake down Bob Seger
like breakdown along I seventy four shoulder of the road.
That's never good.

Speaker 7 (13:13):
Yeah, it wasn't fun.

Speaker 3 (13:13):
Who came out to get you? Triple A Triple shout
out the Triple A. I know Triple A membership lounge
via YouTube live. So what do you think the problem
is with it?

Speaker 7 (13:26):
I have no idea. I just hope it's not the transmission.
That's all I'm hoping for, and.

Speaker 3 (13:32):
Not a transmission. I'm in the process of getting a
transmission for another car, not either one of my too,
But another car coming up here. So I'm gonna I'm
on the lookout for a transmission myself right now. But
Kevin Pelton is a friend of the show. H Kevin

(13:52):
Pelton has and I'm sure they say, Okay, here's all
I'm gonna need you to do. We're gonna need you
to grade all the off season work with all the
teams throughout the end. Got a grade that okay and
kicking and screaming he grades it. Anybody want a fair
I guess the grade that Kevin Pelton in Front of
the show handed to the Pacers in their off season

(14:14):
work to this point. Anybody want to guess it?

Speaker 7 (14:16):
James, you want to guess, I'm gonna say it's probably
a C.

Speaker 3 (14:21):
Probably a C, says James, will hopefully not a broken
down transmission. The grade is I got used to this often,
A big fat d oh, A big fat d Are
you ready? This is the paragraph written from Front of
the Show Kevin Pelton about the Pacers getting an off

(14:42):
season big fat d It's possible we'll look back and
think the Pacers are better off not paying Miles Turner
through the mid thirties. But there are no banners for
fiscal responsibility, and Indiana lost a key piece of a
starting that relied more on fit than share talents. Now

(15:05):
there's part of that, like people are gonna say, are
you souring on Miles because he's no longer here. I
understand what Miles brought to this team. He was a
lot of the reason, part of the reason, however you
want to put it, why they ended up where they
were his finals dreadful what he said regarding his team

(15:27):
when he signed, and that was beyond dreadful. I thought
what he said in his opening presser with Milwaukee in
Vegas a couple of weeks ago was worse than he
was offensively in the NBA finals. Truly, nothing had pissed
me off as much as that, because you know me
to be a lover of what this team represented. And

(15:48):
Kevin Pelton says this right, they rely more on fit
than share talent, one hundred percent accurate, But saying you
want to go, I know someplace because they care about
the talent and the talent you don't have time to
be jacket around with this and that. And obviously there's
no Tyreeve Saliburton. But I just thought you throw your

(16:11):
former teammates now under the bus, and they also help
carry your ass in the finals. So I understand what
he brought. I don't dislike him, but the quotes and
the words about his former teammate, those are going to
be sentence this paragraphs that I will never forget. That

(16:36):
does piss me off. Kevin Pelton continues, the Pacers have
no clear replacement for Turner. Although I liked taking a
flyer on Jay Huff, who has a similar skill set,
expecting him to start after falling out of Memphis' playoff
rotation is unrealistic. Indiana's other traditional sinners, Tony Bradley, Isaiah Jackson,

(17:00):
and James Wiseman also career backups. See here's where I'm
going to find the issue with friend of the Show
Kevin Pelton. While that is true, I still say with
a D and the over under of thirty eight and
a half for the Pacers this season, which I've seen

(17:22):
from Vegas, until I'm proven wrong, I'm going to feel
as if I'm right. And this is not so much
me regurgitating the words of TJ. McConnell in the Players
Tribune a couple of weeks ago. This is just simply
put what I believe. I think this team is a

(17:42):
lot better and will be a lot better than anybody,
including front of the show Kevin Pelton, truly understand that's
with or without Miles, He's going to be a missing piece,
make no mistake, and you're going to see that. You're
going to see that likely on both ends, and I
think it's easy, especially when you're pissed at him, to

(18:04):
talk yourself into these four dudes being able to make
up for him, and I sure as hell hope they do.
That'd be great, But I do think until further notice,
it is unrealistic. Now, could they make up for what
he did in the finals? Yeah, I mean you and
I could do that, But until you see it, there's

(18:25):
no real reason to buy that. But until you see
a complete breakdown with this group, there's also no real
reason to undersell the core of this team, as much
as they're being undersold by most. That's where I take issue.

Speaker 1 (18:47):
Me.

Speaker 3 (18:47):
If this people always said, you know what, if he
has a bad game or a bad see it's going
to be a long season for you, This is going
to be a long season for me. If this team
is not able to not go to a finals but
to maintain a high caliber, a high quality of competition,
as I suggest they will. I just think we live

(19:12):
in a world where you have people that's still even
with what you witness, and I understand that a lot
of the success the Pacers had because of shot making
ability and Freys Haliburton, and that is going to be
missing this season. That is mammoth. There's no way around it.
But truly, if you want to go a B category

(19:33):
right here, the reason why they got to where they
were was because of the overall team concept, and you're
missing a couple from that team concept. Oh, by the way,
in depth, which I believe can also step up. And
I don't know, like the whole great thing. I'm not

(19:54):
mad at a grade D, right, not mad at that
at all, because you get a guy. Here's where I
think I know the teachers educators are going back right now.
I never really understood grading on a curve. That's because
I was well below what probably but I never really
understood it. So this is going to be grading on

(20:16):
a curve. And here's why you can't go less than
a C on this or I don't think you can
get below. I think you have to take in consideration
the Halliburton injury without question, But then you also have
to take in consideration that Milwaukee went out and did

(20:37):
to a degree financially something that nobody has ever done
in the history of the NBA. And how do you
prep for that. Well, here's how you prep for it.
You pay the guy, and then how do you counteroffer
when there was nobody listening to your accounteroffer? Where was

(20:58):
egston Stone? There are a lot of reasons I could
get on this group from the past for how thirty
three was treated, and I do think that in part
that probably led to this type of separation from a
team where he had been for ten years to where
he is now in Milwaukee. But it really is tough

(21:20):
to prepare for something that has never happened to that level,
and then to further that point, it's tough on the
fly to adjust and then do something about it when
all goes quiet on the other side. So I don't
know what you could do differently. I guess you could

(21:40):
take back doing what you did with DeAndre Aiden, or
take back the nine million trade rumors and you take
all that back. But you know, if a guy is
set to go someplace else and if that's what he
truly feels. But the talent is in Milwaukee and he
wants to play with a talent guy. I don't even
want to regurgitate those quotes because they make me so angry.

(22:04):
I just think, in large part, this paragraph under sells
a group to this point that has proven they deserve
better until we see it differently. We can't discuss that.
We may have to get Pelton on it some time,
maybe not tomorrow or I don't know how much anybody

(22:24):
kept me the whole grading stuff. Normally, I don't really
care about it, but I think that there is a
legitimate counter to how people view this team right now.
I just don't quite get it. If you were to say, well,
you know, this team's not going to be nearly as
good because there's no Tyres Halibert. I understand that, and
because my butt I still believe in this core group

(22:46):
a lot more. If you look around the landscape of
the Eastern Conference, they're going to be massive stepping ups
outside of teams were running new I mean Detroit. You
believe in Atlanta, like Atlanta's taking the season, Go oh boy,
look what was happening around here. We can go ahead
and go for it. You believe in Atlanta. Boston should

(23:07):
be in a similar category, right, Are they being downplayed
as much as this Atlanta? Detroit? Detroit's going to be legit.
Cleveland going to be legit again. Probably a little bit
sore about what happened in the Eastern Conference semi finals.

(23:28):
Nick's going to be good again. But who you believing
in the Bulls? Billy Donovan extension, Philadelphia, that mess Atlanta
some opportunities there. All right, quick break, we shall return
at Lance McCallister, the Big one, seven hundred WLW in Cincinnati.

(23:52):
I'm assuming we kind of view this Red's Dodgers series
as important, trying to find any measures in which that
are possible to take advantage of excitement with this team,
considering the weekend against the Rays, you know, other than
a couple of games against the Nationals, they're starting the

(24:14):
second half of Major League's baseball season, even though I
believe there's still six and a half back of the
Brewers and the Cubs. By the way, the whole baseball
world will concentrate on that series beginning later on tonight,
while maybe the Reds can make a little bit of headway,
but it is going to be a difficult assignment. So

(24:37):
I don't know if Lance McAllister is going to talk
me off the ledge or say, hey, it's okay to
be excited about this group because they're proving some things
right now. Lance joins us coming up at the top
of the hour, Stephen Holder about some of the things
that we had talked about, whether the quarterback battle or
the wide receiver situation. Ad Mitchell struggles the defense and

(25:00):
everybody being excited about that, and we talked about this
going in from ward to boning them. The back end
of it is what really it's kind of like me.
The back end of it is what excites everybody. Stephen
Holder coming up into five o'clock hour, the stream of
the app, it's HD Radio. James loves it, the Triple
A Membership Lounge via YouTube Live. You can find us

(25:23):
there as well. Participate all that fun and more with
your sports opinions. We're back after this on ninety three
to five and one oh seven five Fan.

Speaker 5 (25:33):
The Ride with JMV.

Speaker 8 (25:35):
There's a kid in my class to kind of boner
at t Heat High School.

Speaker 3 (25:39):
He was wearing sweatpats. Is really am Bair sings and
this song goes out to.

Speaker 5 (25:42):
Him ninety three five and one oh seven five the fan.

Speaker 3 (25:47):
Yeah, Bubba Wallace, hell of a story yesterday at IMS
and again a shout out to you if you hung
through it, actually, if you were out there in general. Yeah,
in the car Laguna Seca Indy Cars in Portland. Actually
we tried to get I don't think Felix. I to
look back at what Felix did yesterday. We tried to

(26:09):
get Felix on on Thursday and Felix, Felix was in transition.
I'd be completely honest, and I know that in the
grand scheme of things, it just it doesn't matter to them.
But here's what I would do. If somebody would reach
out from my driver here really anywhere in want to

(26:34):
publicize what my driver is doing, if it's Myershank Racing
or anybody else, because he had the grateful dead livery
scheme going both last weekend and then coming up in Portland,
I would And I understand sometimes logistically maybe it won't work,
but the availability here is pretty easy. I guess what

(26:58):
I'm trying to tell you is if somebody asked me
to put my person on their show, I'd be damn
straight doing it. I would. And if it doesn't happen,
it doesn't happen. If it does happen, it does, But
I'd be doing it. I went to say, we WHI
you know that time's not going to work. Okay, all right,

(27:24):
then that's a plan. I guess not going to work.
But I would be doing it if I were them?

Speaker 1 (27:34):
Did we?

Speaker 3 (27:35):
Just the other thing too? Regarding Nascar, I think anybody
around here would do NASCAR stuff, but the only person
that ever comes on. Does anybody else on? I know
that Kurt Darling and I we did the pre race
show on Saturday, and Austin Sindrick was on with Kurt,
and I had Joey Logano last Monday. And I think

(27:57):
that's through the track and what is fleugh Some maybe
it's through Team Penske, but somebody calls and goes, hey,
it's almost like a tradition. Now see that's the stuff
that people dig. And certainly I would be regarding Bubba Wallace,
I'd be talking to absolutely everybody say look at how
great this is. But that's just me. What do I know.

(28:22):
I've only done this for twenty five years, But anybody
I don't care who it is. And in terms of IndyCar,
my god, if one of us were to ask, hey,
can we get your driver? I would let ye, okay,
here's a phone, any phone, pay phone, rotary dialing phone,

(28:42):
cell phone, by any means necessary, which also brings me
this another means necessary. Surely by now you have signed
up for the golf outing, did you realize that's a
week from Thursday, and you realize how much fun you're
going to be missing. I don't know a lot. I'm

(29:05):
not very bright, and that's probably been the best asset
I have. Actually, I have two assets. One is I
know what I don't know, which is a lot. There's
very little that I do know, and the fact that
I know that, I think gives me an edge. And

(29:28):
then i'm fun as hell. I do know that. Two
things that I know fun as hell and I don't
know Jack Squad. But the fun is hell part is
going to come out of this golf outing, the fan
Invitational Golf Outing presented by Franciscan Health that is coming
up Thursday, August this seventh. That is going to be
a fantastic time. So is Jeff Rickard back or is
he just a myth? Or a legend by now. How

(29:50):
long has he been on vacation since April? When's jeff
Rickord back? Do you know you and jeff Rickord go
on vacation together?

Speaker 7 (29:59):
That sounds nice, be gonsince Tuesday.

Speaker 3 (30:01):
Where'd you guys go together?

Speaker 7 (30:02):
I was in Kentucky. I think he was in a
much more interesting place than me.

Speaker 3 (30:09):
James is in Kentucky. I don't think Jeff. I don't
think I've seen jeff Rickard in like five months. I'm
joking two weeks. I believe Jeff has been going. Jeff
is going to be back on the Morning show coming
up tomorrow morning, matter of fact, but he's also going

(30:32):
to be a part of this goal thoughting Kev's going
to be there. I don't think James Boyd much like
our Sunday morning pickup games where he has to go
to a fever Gates got to be fresh for a
fever game and he couldn't play. That's a hell of
an excuse. James Boyd is not going to be able
to be there. I think James has Colts Ravens responsibilities.
That's understandable. Jake, me Bowen, Ricord, yeah, everybody else around.

(30:59):
Hopefully you get signed up today. It is going to
be a worthy adventure. I promise you that, because I
do know how to have fun. One of seventy five
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sign up for that stat as they say my Lance McCallister,

(31:20):
top of the hour, I'm at Colts Camp, finally coming
up on Thursday. What's the weather forecast Thursday? Is it
going to cool down by then? See if James can
give me the ACI weather Thursday forecast. I don't care
either way, but it's all good. I just want to
talk to some interesting people up there in that tent.

Speaker 7 (31:39):
It's saying, according to Microsoft, being on Thursday, you'll have
a high F seventy six.

Speaker 3 (31:45):
Oh man, but some brain I may have to hang
out in my jeans. Jeff is at two thirty nine,
ten seventy. Jeff is going to get this day started
as he should. Hello Jeff, Hey, jamb how are you? Jeff?
I couldn't be better? Thank you for asking go ahead.

Speaker 9 (32:03):
So took our son and three other kids down the
holiday world. Stayed at a Hampton end. Yes, Jasper, Yes,
that's where we went to dinner.

Speaker 3 (32:11):
There the Snitchel Bonk, which I have. Oh my god,
did you see the JMV memorial stumbling path from the
door of that Hampton end to the door of the
Snitzel Bank right there?

Speaker 1 (32:24):
Yeah?

Speaker 10 (32:24):
Are you are?

Speaker 11 (32:25):
Your footprints permanently.

Speaker 3 (32:26):
My footprints are permanently etched back in the parking these
stumbling back drunk through the parking lot memorial JMV walkway
right there? Is what it is? Yes, well, definitely a
bucket list item checked off. Oh don't you do? You
not like it? They're adding what are they doing to
the front? I just saw the unveiled something new. What
is it?

Speaker 9 (32:48):
I don't know if are you talking about the gift
shop area the front?

Speaker 3 (32:52):
They added some kind of new signage to the front
of it. I didn't know what it was. I just
saw it because I think it was from W I.
T Z and Jeff that had that story I saw
on Facebook. I just didn't read at all. But no,
I love Alan in the gang at the Snitchelbank or
the absolute best. Did you do the salad bar?

Speaker 9 (33:11):
I of course did the salad bar. I did the Schnitzel.
I did the German potato salad. It was everything I
wanted it more.

Speaker 3 (33:17):
When's the last time you ate a salad on an
ice cold steel plate, it's.

Speaker 2 (33:24):
Got to be a decade.

Speaker 3 (33:25):
Great. I'm not kidding, great, I tell you. Yeah, that's
doing it right right there, buddy, it is, Jeff, well
done out of you. I'm glad you had a great time.
They always give you a great time. Any great meal,
that's right.

Speaker 11 (33:36):
So for the Colts, though, I was talking to a
coworker of mine today, we're going back through the best
wide receiver, kicker, and quarterback the Colts have had while
Ballard has been in charge.

Speaker 9 (33:49):
He inherited all three of them, and it just it
blows my mind. If if Richardson doesn't start week one, yeah,
I just don't know how he's even so employed come
week week two. Just an abject failure of responsibility across
the board.

Speaker 3 (34:09):
And that's one of the reasons why not that they
were going to get rid of him. But one of
the reasons I felt initially this whole quarterback competition was
just I guess in part it was because of the
history of Daniel Jones, but the other portion of it was,
I mean, this is going to be it for him.
If he doesn't start in week one, what's the use

(34:30):
so that's where I kind of thought initially the whole
quarterback competition thing was a little bit ridiculous. But almost
a weekend, I mean, it hasn't seemed as ridiculous, I think.
Is My initial opinion on it was, Yeah, Well, I mean,
but you're you're right, You're right, you are right. This

(34:52):
is the only chance for him to say he's got
to save himself and save those that believed in him
when they drafted a number four overall, I mean, it's
I mean, this is it. And if you don't start
in week number one, I mean, Helly started in week
number one as a rookie. So yeah, I mean, there
are so many excuses, and you know, there's there's one left,

(35:13):
and it's just dude is just never ever going to
get it done. So there's one left.

Speaker 9 (35:18):
So I agreed, Well, we'll see what the start of
the game, what the start of the season looks like.
I'm going to give them four games before I check
out completely this year.

Speaker 3 (35:27):
Are you apathetic about to start? Are you into it?

Speaker 4 (35:31):
Oh?

Speaker 11 (35:31):
Now, I'm one hundred apathetic.

Speaker 9 (35:34):
They have to show me something at this point.

Speaker 1 (35:36):
I'm so checked out.

Speaker 3 (35:38):
I think that is entirely fair of e to you
it that way too. I think there are a lot
of people just like you. They say, hey, now you're
going to have to prove it to me, because I've
bought in so many different times and you have told
me to buy in and it hasn't worked out. So
this you dictate your terms on this, I would understand
why you want to do it that way. Jeff. All right, Jeff,

(36:01):
I'm glad you got a great time at the Snitzel
Bank and the Hampton In and Jasper right there. That's outstanding.
I love Jasper. Seriously, that Hampton end is right neck
right across the parking lot from the Snitzel Bank, so
you can you can wagh deeply into your doss boot

(36:24):
and then bumble right across the parking lot. And seriously,
you go from downing your last drop from the doss
boot to head on the pillow. You can do that
in literally forty five seconds. It's glorious. You have a

(36:45):
thought you're someplace and go. Man, I'm so tired, i'd
cat just go or whatever. I could just put my
head down right now and be forty five seconds, last
drop of doss boot to pillow and done zo from
this Nitzo bomb to the Hampton end, shout out to Alan.
Alan brings me, hey here, and I can't. I come

(37:09):
in to a point where I really can't eat it. But
he brings me two big catering trays every single carb
day of gulash, those big egg noodles in one and
then whatever the beef is, the chopped beef and some
kind of wine gravy sauce thing. Whoa yeah, that's got

(37:34):
like the two five to five Jmv's going, Hey, man,
can you let me out of here for a minute,
Get me out of this cottage cheese bod for a minute.
To you want to go after that gulash two point
fifty five me, He's going, hey, going knocking on, hey,
let me out, pound it on the door. Now you

(37:55):
got to stay in there. There's your Greek yogurt and
your cottage cheese and steel plates on the salad bar
that is unhurt chilled the steel plates. That means if
you use the fork and steel hits steel in the
bottom of that plate. Sometimes it makes a chalkboard scratching

(38:17):
on the chalkboard type of sound that it's cringeworthy, but
it's glorious because it is so good, Snitzelbank and Jasper
quick Break will come back. His name is Lance McAllister,
among covering the Reds and the Bengals and a lover
of hockey. I'm assuming he loves King's Island. I think

(38:39):
I should ask Lance how many times he's ridden the Beast?
Is the Beast still at King's Island?

Speaker 7 (38:43):
Yeah? It is, it's still running.

Speaker 3 (38:45):
How's that wooden roller coaster not completely rotted out by now?

Speaker 7 (38:48):
I mean Holiday World's got some pretty old ones too.

Speaker 3 (38:51):
Yeah. Have they had to change out all the wood?
How many times? I wonder on the Beast. I'm sure
the world's largest wooden roller coaster or something.

Speaker 7 (39:00):
Well, I think it was at one point.

Speaker 3 (39:01):
There must be some solid treated wood.

Speaker 7 (39:03):
I'm sure the maintenance costs for those type of coasters
are not inexpensive.

Speaker 1 (39:11):
I know.

Speaker 3 (39:12):
Jaylaw says, Oh, is this the Tiki Idol episode that
you're watching? See? This is why Jaylaw. I'll tell you what.
Let me tease this what Jaylaw brings up right here?
The Tiki Idle episode of The Brady Bunch is built
around superstition and bad luck. That is a major reason

(39:36):
as to why I was slightly apprehensive about talking to
Lance on the show today and hopefully we all don't
pay for it in the end. I'll tell you why.

Speaker 5 (39:46):
Next the ride with JMV.

Speaker 3 (39:54):
You take ahead.

Speaker 5 (39:58):
Ninety three to five and the fan.

Speaker 3 (40:06):
Hey, welcome back. A little pre show meeting with Hammer
and Nigel. We normally do that right before the show.
It was documented today, all right, Naked Gun has a
remake with Liam Neeson. Does that look good?

Speaker 7 (40:22):
It looks I will wait to pass judgment on it until, okay,
I see it.

Speaker 3 (40:26):
Happy Gilmore was released over the weekend and a lot
of people were disappointed. What the hell were you guys
thinking you were going to see here like The Godfather
or what I mean? It's Happy Gilmore Too? The hell
did you expect? Did it not entertain you? Did anybody
see it? Did you see it?

Speaker 7 (40:43):
I have not. I haven't even seen the first one, honestly.

Speaker 3 (40:45):
All right, somebody give me their official review of Happy
Gilmore Too. It's almost like like it's misreading the pacers
right here to me, Hi, how disappointing would Happy Gilmore
Too have to be to be described as disappointing to you?

(41:12):
What exactly did you expect? Now? We were going in
and felt it would kind of be like dances with wolves. Yeah,
so if anybody has seen it, give me a little
throwback in time, a little former Cisco and Ebert. I

(41:36):
just saw all and I think I saw the guy
that uh hell, I don't even know what it is.
A couple of the Happy Gilmore accounts on the social
media platform x I Thy Kah Shooter McGavin was one
of them that made light of it. Let says Adam Sandler.

(41:57):
Was funny. I was entertained by God. That's what you
need to be, is entertained. Right there, we got an
official review right here. John saw Happy Gilmore too. What
are we thinking? John? Hello? Go ahead John? John? Turned
down that radio on the back ground and turn yourself.

Speaker 5 (42:17):
On all that?

Speaker 3 (42:18):
You got it?

Speaker 1 (42:18):
Hey, jan b what's up?

Speaker 3 (42:20):
I want you to turn yourself on? I do that
all the time myself.

Speaker 1 (42:23):
Go ahead, got you.

Speaker 12 (42:26):
My former name was Monan John.

Speaker 1 (42:27):
I don't know if you remember a call in quite
a bit.

Speaker 3 (42:29):
Well, you gotta start going with Monon John. That's that's
better than John.

Speaker 12 (42:37):
Happy Gilmore. That's what you would expect. It was funny
in parts, stupid and others. Yes, Schuter MGA Schuterbmer Gavin
was really good, I thought, But the movie itself was
kind of disappointing.

Speaker 3 (42:50):
Disappoint like, how did it disappoint you? What? What were
you considering?

Speaker 12 (42:55):
It was non disappointing, well, disappointing in the fact that
the way that they went about.

Speaker 2 (43:02):
This whole they do a golf league in there. It's
kind of like Live, but it's kind of a knock
off to Live.

Speaker 12 (43:06):
Yeah, it was very very dumb, very dumb, but otherwise
it was funny in part. Now it's worth while, it's
worth watching once that was at home?

Speaker 3 (43:17):
Right, you watch it at home, So I've never done
that before, so I don't even have to go to
the movie theater anymore, Right, is watching a home?

Speaker 1 (43:25):
Now?

Speaker 2 (43:25):
Do you watch all throp on Netflix? Well?

Speaker 3 (43:27):
All first releases? Are they available on Netflix now?

Speaker 10 (43:32):
No?

Speaker 2 (43:32):
But I will tell you a movie I did see
at the theaters.

Speaker 1 (43:35):
I know this is off the subject, but I highly.

Speaker 12 (43:37):
Recommend, yes, the The F one movie with Brad Pitt.

Speaker 3 (43:40):
Brad Pitt. What's more realistic happy Gilmore to a golf
movie or Brad Pitt at the age of sixty plus
still driving an F one.

Speaker 12 (43:50):
I would say The F One Movie was probably more realistic,
but it was very entertaining.

Speaker 3 (43:54):
Awesome, then, John, you would okay? Kevin Pelton grated the
Pacers off season as a D. What grade would you?
And Happy Gilmore too?

Speaker 2 (44:01):
No, I'll d a right to the B. I give
the Pacers a B.

Speaker 3 (44:07):
Hey, when you were in school, was D passing? Is
that a passing grade?

Speaker 1 (44:10):
Yes?

Speaker 12 (44:11):
Okay, he's a passing grade. You remember, Hey, real quick,
do you remember the guy that that pulled the jokes?
Isisman up at the Monon Center.

Speaker 3 (44:19):
We were up there that day? Were you with me?
Mon On John?

Speaker 5 (44:21):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (44:22):
I was there.

Speaker 2 (44:23):
I was there over.

Speaker 3 (44:25):
I brought it up to Drew Storm, who was in
studio because he tore up his knee playing in the
Mona On a couple of months ago. True story.

Speaker 1 (44:32):
Yeah, I heard.

Speaker 2 (44:33):
I heard that phone call too left.

Speaker 3 (44:34):
Yeah, so we were together and that that guy broke
his stick in half there. That was awful.

Speaker 1 (44:38):
Yeah, his bone was sticking out.

Speaker 2 (44:40):
Yeah it was uh yeah, that was not That was
no good for nobody.

Speaker 3 (44:43):
You guys are crossing over, Toby. You guys still are
still playing at the mon On John.

Speaker 12 (44:48):
No, I ruptured my achilles about six years ago, sir,
and I have not played basketball since, so be very careful.

Speaker 3 (44:55):
I'm holding my.

Speaker 2 (44:56):
BA non hey, I'll tell you non contact.

Speaker 1 (44:59):
Yeah, I'm contact.

Speaker 3 (45:01):
I'm watching for it. I wear a boot whatever. Hey, whatever,
I'm not playing, I'll wear a boot wherever I go.
Now does this leave.

Speaker 1 (45:07):
You with this? I will tell you this.

Speaker 2 (45:10):
When you did, when you rock to your achilles, it
doesn't hurt.

Speaker 1 (45:13):
There's no pain.

Speaker 2 (45:14):
Yeah, it's just more.

Speaker 12 (45:15):
It's more like having a piece of meat hanging off
of something you can't control it. Yeah, so hopefully that
scares you a little bit.

Speaker 3 (45:23):
Mona, thanks Mona, John, thank you for that. And the
happy Gilmore too grade. Yeah, we were both there together
years ago. Some guy broke his stick right half. Jaylaw
brought this up the Tiki Idol episode. I'm trying not
to jink the Reds jinx the Reds right here. Uh,

(45:45):
this is dangerous territory. Lance McAllister from The Big One
joins us.

Speaker 5 (45:48):
Next the ride with JMV. This will be the high
point of my day. Gets walm Downhill from ninety three
to five and one seven five the fan James over there,
my name is John, Thank you for joining us.

Speaker 3 (46:06):
A week from Saturday, the All requests. Saturday night, JMV
Takeover is going to be live at the tap Room
at the Indiana State Fair. They are letting us cut
loose in there. I heard from DJ Skids a little
bit earlier his many mixes will be performed while we're there,
and I have had a thumbs up from the awesome

(46:29):
Lore Steele. He is going to do some segments whether
it's out there too. The JMV Takeover that is a
week from Saturday, live at the tap Room at the
Indiana State Fair. Stephen Holder from Colts Camp's going to
join us, coming up at the top of the five
o'clock hour meantime of the Andy Moore Automotive Group hootline
right now from seven hundred WLW and all the coverage

(46:53):
and the Queens City that is necessary. Lance McAllister joins us,
and Lance I can tell you this as we start,
I'm going to quote the point of Sisters. I'm so
excited and I just can't hide it right now. Do
I have a reason to be excited or is this
all still window dressing until further notice with this REDS team.

Speaker 4 (47:14):
No, You've got reason, and look when you do what
I do, there are moments during this season when they
dropped four under five hundred, where you start looking at
the calendar and thinking, all right, your job is to
talk after the Reds game for two two and a
half hours, wrapping up games with a season heading in
the wrong direction. Yep, this team is they're playing good baseball.
They've I said yesterday, something's I don't want to get

(47:36):
I'm not a hitting coach, but something has clicked with
this team. They are getting much tougher at bats, they're
extending at bats, they're going the other way, they're hitting
behind runners, they're you know, Ellie hasn't homerd in incredibly
twenty six games, but he's hitting over three hundred during
that stretch. And there's so many times he's hitting the
ball up the middle now and getting hits, and a

(47:57):
hit a lot of times with him can turn into
a double with the Steel is just it's a lot
of that, which to me is simply a buy in
of we all don't have to try to hit home runs.
We can all be part of moving the line. And
they've been moving the line.

Speaker 3 (48:12):
Watching La Mature as a play, very young, incredibly stratisphorically
talented player. How's that been for you. Is there a
comparison you could make from your history in Cincinnati?

Speaker 4 (48:24):
You know it to me? And he gets he gets
tagged here a lot with he makes too many errors.
They should move in the center, or he strikes out
too much. He's got to start making contact. And I
keep telling people, I say, show me another twenty three
year old who in his third year in the majors
has seen his batting average go up every year, his

(48:47):
on base every year, his slugging every year, his ops
his ops plus, his walk rate is up every year,
his strikeout rate is down every year. It's a complete
across the board sweep of improved. And he's played at
grand total of three hundred and sixty four major league games.
He's just scratching the surface.

Speaker 3 (49:06):
Yeah, I just I don't know if I've been as
excited about a player since Eric Davis. And I've been
that way with Elie the entire time.

Speaker 4 (49:17):
You know, I always go back to a conversation that
I had with Eric at Redsfest a couple of years ago,
and I asked him about the pressure, what he would
say to Elie about the pressure he was facing. I said,
because Eric, you were compared to Willie Mays when you
were coming up, and he said, well, I would tell
Ellie and anybody else there is no comparison because there's
nobody in baseball who can do what Ela can do.

(49:38):
And he meant from a body type standpoint, his height,
his weight, his speed, his arm, his glove, his bad
he says all of that right now. He says, I'm
not saying he's going to reach all that, but there's
nobody you could put side by side and say this
guy does everything that Eli does right now. And I
just remember everybody just kind of pausing and thinking, we

(49:59):
did Davis just say that about Ellie Da La Cruz
And we're seeing it developed before our very eyes. Look,
he's got a long way to go. He's not a
finished product. He still goes through his folks. He's still
you know, takes too many times where at the tap
tap of the glove on the fielder and he sales
it over the first basement's head. But again, he's twenty
three years old and he's doing this. It's incredible.

Speaker 3 (50:20):
Lass McAllister of the Big One Red's coverage Bengals coverage
all you need to know in Cincinnati, including King's Island coverage.
I'm sure he's on the anymore automatic grip potline. So
where's the proof going to be for h Nick and
company to pull the trigger on something to help this

(50:40):
team out trade deadline wise.

Speaker 4 (50:42):
It's a great question because I've said it's the credibility
point for this franchise they two years ago. You know,
I'm a big believer in the old adage whoever said
it first that when it comes to baseball and tenant
races and contending in the Wildcard, you don't choose the
year you can tend. The baseball guys choose you. And
two years ago this team came out of nowhere. They

(51:03):
had won sixty two the year before, and they eventually
won eighty two. Two years ago, and going into August
they were in first place under David Bell. They were
ten games over five hundred and so many people forget this,
And all they did at the deadline on July thirty
first was acquire Sam Mall and Sam was good, but
they needed so much more help. They were playing really well,

(51:26):
but it wasn't sustainable. Their pitching wasn't sustainable. And all
they did was Maul and I watched them in August
and September just Struggle and basically signed guys off the
street to take up starts for this rotation because their
arms got hurt, their arms went dead, and they just
they missed a golden opportunity. The city fell in love

(51:46):
with that team two years ago because that was Ellie
and Madd and steering guys bursting onto this scene. And
they let that season, they punted it and there was
never any guarantee who was going to come back around.

Speaker 1 (52:00):
Well it has.

Speaker 4 (52:01):
It didn't last year. They took a step back last season,
but it's come around this year and they're in it
and they're a game out and they get they need help.
They're fun, they're good, they're not good enough.

Speaker 3 (52:14):
Give me or us an example of the type of
help that they need right now.

Speaker 4 (52:20):
Well, you could put together a lengthy list, and the list.
When you do that, it makes it seem like they're
they're worse than they are. Like I could give you
a list and you'd say, well, that sounds like a
team that might win Struggle to win seventy. But they,
in theory, could use They need a bat. This city,
this organization, for two years, has chased the elusive air quotes.
The bat a presence in the order behind elied La Cruz,

(52:42):
and that could be a Uenio Suarez coming back and
playing third base, and maybe they move Marte to the
outfield full time. Maybe that's Stephen Quan, who's just a
bat who makes contact a lot, who's dropped into that
order and gets on base. You can make the argument,
and I stand by this. They need at least another
bullpen arm. They have four guys on pace to throw

(53:03):
career high in appearances, and I just have a fear
that their tanks are going to go dry and the
tank is gonna, you know, be pinning empty come the
middle of August or the end of August. And they're
starting pitching situation right now. They've got Chase Burns, who
is pitching under an innings limit that is probably somewhere
in the neighborhood of forty maybe forty innings away. They

(53:24):
don't want to shut him down, so that may mean
they back him off and maybe move him into the bullpen.
Hunter Green is going to throw a rehab start tomorrow night.
I don't know. I'm not going to count on him
when he's coming back. I just don't know. So you
could make a case, and I guess it plays the
Knick's advantage of needing an update a grade in three
or four different departments or areas of this team, so

(53:47):
you really can't go wrong. You got to get at
least one of those.

Speaker 3 (53:49):
Though, Yeah, I'm nick ownership. You think everybody's going to
be motivated to do something.

Speaker 4 (53:57):
They I think they have to. I think the organiza
say player. It's been very interesting, whether it's Emilio Fagan
on the postgame, on the TV side, ten days or
so ago, TJ three deliver the weekend, they have been
very vocal publicly saying something along the lines of we
want to force the front office's hand to get us
some help in so many words. Not At the same time,

(54:19):
you could argue, well, that means some of your teammates
may be traded, and you guys all like each other,
why are you publicly campaigning? But I think the bigger
point is they know there's something brewing here, but they're
realistic enough when they wake up and look in the
mirror to think, we got to get some help. And
if we do with this rotation of Abbot and Lodolo
in Singer and maybe get Hunter green back. I don't

(54:41):
want to say teams would be scared to play them
in a short playoff series, but I wouldn't be lining
up to face Andre Rabbit Nicolodolo and maybe Hunter Green
won two to three in a series.

Speaker 3 (54:50):
Let's go inead and give credit too. By the way,
you brought up David Bell, and yes, all of a sudden,
now the Blue Jays have the best record in baseball.
So there's some positive influence with David Bell organizationally speaking, right.

Speaker 4 (55:03):
I said all along, this organization's issue wasn't David Bell.
They needed more talent. And that's not to diminish what
Terry Francone is doing. I love what Terry Francone is doing.
The team obviously loves playing for him. But I always
thought when people centered on the manager, they were getting
lost in the shuffle of the much bigger picture. That
was letting ownership in the front office off the hook.
And I don't like doing that and I'm not going

(55:25):
to do that. They walk in, they're trying to walk
a very delicate line of threading the needle because they've
assembled a lot of prospects. They tore this system down,
they built it up at the trade deadline, of twenty
twenty two and brought out a lot of prospects. But man,
there's a lot of prospects who never develop into major
league talent. And there were a couple of years ago
everybody thought guys like Jeter Downs and Taylor Tremmell were

(55:48):
going to be a key pieces in the organization. They
traded him into the Dodgers and they're not even well
Taylor is, but they're not doing anything in Major League Baseball.
So you can't keep all your prospects. All prospects are
to be kept, some are meant to be used as
trade ships to help you get something proven for the now.

Speaker 3 (56:05):
He is Lance McCallister with us, and I'm assuming this
is probably going to arouse the Cubs fans and those
five or six Brewers fans out there. I don't know
how the Cardinal fans are going to feel about it
being nine back right now, but the are the Cardinals.
Who knows what happens is the central to this point
of the season, and the National League the best division
in baseball.

Speaker 4 (56:25):
Managed sure looks like it. I mean the way they're
playing and the way the Braves went on the run,
the Cubs went on the early run and they've obviously
come back to the pack a little bit. But if
you look at the Cubs at a five ninety winning
percentage and the Brewers tied at a five ninety winning percentage,
those are two and they're killing it at home. Those
are two heavyweights.

Speaker 3 (56:45):
Now.

Speaker 4 (56:46):
I still look at the Cubs and I say, man,
pitching wise, how can they And I look at the
Brewers offense and I say, I really love Pat Murphy.
I covered Pat Murray. He was a manager at Notre
Day and the coach at Notre Dame when I was
in TV South Bend that long ago, and I love him.
But you talk about some of your parts type of team,
you look at their lineup and say, that is exactly

(57:07):
murderers Row or the big Red Machine. How do they
do it? They're like Nats. They just get on base,
and they just get on base and they run and
they catch it and they throw and you look up
and they win games and there's there's nothing. We're like
dazzling from one night to the next.

Speaker 3 (57:21):
Eye Lance, the Dodgers would seem to be in the
end of July here a big series against an incredibly
quality team. As we know, what are we thinking.

Speaker 4 (57:33):
Well. I mean, the Dodgers have clearly been banged up
all the season long, and we know they've still been
able to win sixty one games. We're gonna get Otani
on Wednesday, but he'll only go four. The Reds are
at home and they're playing their best baseball of the year,
and they're they're protecting home field. They haven't been very
good at home in recent years. One of their biggest

(57:54):
problems have been they don't play well at home. They
don't play well in the Division, and they don't get
off the good starts. Now they start playing well at home.
They're not really playing well in the Division, but outside
of it and in the American League, they've been able
to find ways. And the Dodgers, I don't want to
say they're right for the picking, but we know the
stretch they've been in over the last couple of weeks.
They're in a position where they're more beatable than they

(58:16):
usually are. So you got to take two out of
three at least.

Speaker 3 (58:20):
I'd be great to see. I'd be excited. See I'm
a little bit apprehensive about bringing you on because I'm
afraid I'm gonna Jenson and I'm assuming I'm not the
only Red fan out there that feels the same way
about that lass.

Speaker 4 (58:32):
Well, you talk about a city that will be on edge.
Alexis d As has caught a pitch for the Dodgers
twice in the last week. If Alexis ds takes the
mound any of the next three nights in this city,
and it could go one of two ways, he will
strike out the side and every call of my postgame
will be I told you they could ever get up
on the ass, or he will come in and walk

(58:54):
the first three guys, and this city will just be
in Heaven, laughing in the fact he's no longer doing
it for this city.

Speaker 3 (59:00):
And loving it. Is it a similar fan base in
Heaven with the Bengals at the start of camp? I
know the Bengals get I think the Eagles right in
the preseason opener in a handful of days away. How
are things going with the football team over there? So far?

Speaker 4 (59:16):
They're healthy, so that's good. They ended the contract hold
out to squabble with their first rounders, so that's good.
Trey Hendrickson remains on the outside looking in. They're squabbling
over guaranteed money, and that's not good. There's enough fans
around here who decided that Sacks are overrated and they
can win without him. I'm here to tell you the
Bengals super Bowl chances go down this season without Trey Hendrickson.

(59:37):
And I'm going to say what I told you the
last time. The Bengals doing often have to do things
they don't want to do. I want that to be
the case this time. I want them to have to
pay Trey Hendrickson because they realize they can't risk another
season in the Joe Burrow window and missed the playoffs.
Role would be the third straight season.

Speaker 3 (59:52):
Is Hendrickson one the right on this angle he's taking
with the Bengals here.

Speaker 4 (59:57):
I understand he an extension, and I understand there's still
a year left on his extension. But I also know
if you look around the league, whether it's Watt or
Garrett or Crosby or Hunter or carloftis defensive end edge
rushers are getting extensions left and right, and the market
has blown up, and I understand where Trey's coming from.
They seem to be according to the report from Adam Schefter,

(01:00:18):
they're down to like between six and ten million dollars
of money that is left to either be guaranteed or not.
Bengals maybe no Trey wants it, so they're they're getting
maybe closer. But I have been in the corner of
Trey Hendrickson and I appreciate the value he brought to
this team, and I just I think he's too good
for them to hold firm and fold their arms and say,

(01:00:41):
let's see you hold out this season. I think that
would be ugly.

Speaker 3 (01:00:44):
He is Las McCallister with us. I'll ask you this
to a degree, before lou Anarumo was the decoordinator there
in some good times and then at the end some
bad times. He's the first year DC here in Indy,
and you could tell some of the pu pieces they
put together in the secondary, whether it's Mooney Ward or
cam Binam came with the effect that Anirumo brings. And

(01:01:08):
I think you and I have discussed this, and you
made the point I thought you said, the turning point
of that defense from good to bad kind of came
with the Baits situation. So does it make a lot
of sense, for example, what the Colts are doing and
how much better they planned to be in the secondary
because an Aeromo was pulling the trigger a coordinator here now.

Speaker 4 (01:01:29):
Yeah, he you know, and I defaulted this, and you're right.
They lost Jesse Bates and they never really replaced him
in the secondary. They lost dj Reader from the interior
of that defensive line, and they never really replaced They've
been chasing those two positions since. I'm going to always
go back to Lou Atroumo a couple of years ago
was a hot candidate for a head coaching job. He
got in the head of Patrick Mahomes and it was

(01:01:51):
like the Mahomes whisperer. He was able to see make
Mahomes see things that weren't there. I do I reject
the notion that Luke forgot how to coach. I believe
the talent drained. Lou can be a little bit complicated
in his schemes. We always said he was like the
Mad Scientists, and that always doesn't go well with a
younger group of guys. So there's always that give and

(01:02:12):
take there, And I do think in the end it
was time for a change here. But I am a
big fan of lou Anroomo.

Speaker 3 (01:02:17):
So it is so funny you quoted Mad Scientists. Taekwon
Lewis was on with me last week and he said
the same damn thing about an ROOMO. He said, he's
but he said it in a favorable sense. You kind
of said it to a point where it can be
a bit overwhelming, especially if you don't have the same
level of talent as you once had.

Speaker 4 (01:02:39):
It can be. But I love the point you just
made with the comment from the player, because Bengal players
here would tell you they were excited to come in
for their first full day of work on Wednesday for
the install of the game plan to see what Lou
had for them, or on Tuesday, they were excited because
they knew he was He would be in like the
lab with Bunsen burners and chemicals and mixing and matching,

(01:03:01):
and they said, we can't wait each week to see
what he's going to give us. In the end, I
think there was such a talent drain. He had to
go above and beyond with some stuff, if that makes sense,
and it just got kind of complicated and not everybody.
There's a lot being said now about guys playing free
and easy, and I understand what they mean because with Lou,
if you didn't know him and didn't know his schemes,

(01:03:22):
there was that kind of pause and Okay, now which
way do I go? And that's not good playing defense.

Speaker 3 (01:03:26):
So it's funny you know this as well as I do.
Is it'd be like the first time where you don't
find a coach or somebody the NFL that hasn't decided
to outthink or believe they can outthink the room at
every turn. So this would not be an anomaly at
all with Lou. And Roumo does that though kind of

(01:03:48):
work to a disadvantage sometimes for him.

Speaker 4 (01:03:53):
It can depending on the age of your defense, the
football IQ of your defense. But I think in any case,
he was going to be coming in with like a
clean board and a clean slate of how he's going
to approach this. And and I think Lou's smart enough
to know and learn from experiences of the past. So
I would imagine there were moments where Lou stopped and thought, Okay,

(01:04:14):
wait a minute, maybe this went a little bit too
far in Sincy. Let me dial it back a little
bit here, Let me give him morsels of this and
not a full helping of this, and then we'll take
it from there and add as we go. I would
think he's smart enough to realize and to kind of
add and subtract as he goes based on this personnel
versus the personnel he had.

Speaker 3 (01:04:32):
Yeah, what you're saying is we may have here in
Indy the two goats of out thinking in the room
and both Chris Ballard and lou Anroumo. So it's incredible
there's no more, no more thinking in the room going
on or those two are in it.

Speaker 4 (01:04:46):
I'm a big fan and lou I always said here
in Lou I trust.

Speaker 3 (01:04:49):
So yeah, no, let's get He seemed like a very
soft spoken good Now it was our initial conversation, so
what the hell do I know?

Speaker 1 (01:04:58):
Right?

Speaker 3 (01:04:58):
But I didn't. He didn't want to play off of
what you had to say, because there is kind of
there's the good and the bad. Yeah, when it was
the best of times, shout out to sticks. It was
the best of times you talk about. You know, we
see Kansas City on the cold schedule coming up in
week number twelve. He is kind of the Mahomes defensive whisperer.

(01:05:19):
I didn't know too much about that. Can you elaborate
a little bit please.

Speaker 4 (01:05:23):
Well, let's remember the year they went to the super Bowl.
They won in Kansas City. I've lost track now they
won in Kansas City two or three times in a row.
They beat him in the AFC Championship Game to go
to the Super Bowl. They then lost them, went down
to the wire and lost to them on a late
kick in the next year in the AFC Championship Game.
But whether it was regular season or postseason, if you

(01:05:43):
look at Mahomes numbers, there was there was stuff going
on with Lou and guys drop it in spots that
didn't normally drop where Mahomes even talked about it afterwards
like whoa wait a minute, and it was just kind
of that the chess pieces got moved in different spots
for somebody like Homes and they were very good with that.

Speaker 3 (01:06:03):
Yeah. So yeah, that's the twenty show. I'm gonna I'm
in a hard target that match up on the twenty third.
That's in the NFL's biggest dump known as Arrowhead Stadium,
which I hate. A great deal coming up on the
twenty third. So Wednesday is Otani Day with the Dodger's correct. Yeah,
So what's the crowd going to be like on Wednesday?

Speaker 4 (01:06:24):
I would think they'll exceed thirty. Now, part of that's
going to be maddening because there are for whatever reason.
Always there are a lot of It's not like they're
jumping in their cars and driving from LA, but there's
a maddening number of Dodger fans who come out of
the woodwork around here because of the appeal of Otani
and guys like Freddie Freeman and others. So there will

(01:06:45):
be big crowds here three straight nights.

Speaker 3 (01:06:46):
Yeah, man, Lance, do you ever find yourself missing the
old school NL West.

Speaker 1 (01:06:52):
Like I do?

Speaker 4 (01:06:54):
Oh? You know, it's funny you say that, because every
night I have a segment on the Xtra Innings postgame
show and it's sponsoring. It's called Backing the Machine, and
it's an hunter the fiftieth anniversary of the Big Red Machine.
And I look at the box score from fifty years
ago each night and look at the mat and I
just give some notes from the box score, and so
many things just pop. Those those rivalries that people now think, wait,

(01:07:15):
Reds and Astros are in the same division, the Reds
and the Brave, the Reds and the Dodgers, the Padres
and Giants, And it was just, oh man, you'd get
a Friday night in this city in the seventies with
the Dodgers in the town. There'd be fifty five thousand
on Friday night, fifty five on Saturday, and fifty five
on Sundays.

Speaker 3 (01:07:32):
Yeah, and then somebody hit a ground ball at Fulton
County Stadium and skip off an infield rock and hit
Andre's Thomas in the face. I miss those days.

Speaker 4 (01:07:41):
I'd show up now, this is what I remember. I'd
show up as like a nine to ten year old
on a Sunday and I look at the scoreboard and
it was sperky Sunday lineup. He'd have Bill Plumber catching yes,
like Mike Lumm in the outfield and Junior Kennedy at second.
I said, wait a minute, I'm here to see Morgan, Biggs.

Speaker 5 (01:07:57):
Rose bread.

Speaker 13 (01:08:00):
Me, Mike Lumb. I've got nine thousand of his cards.
I don't need to watch him flect. And he looks like, yeah,
that old Mike Lum tops card.

Speaker 3 (01:08:10):
I think from maybe seventy seven or seventy eight, I
think that's what it was. But he's swinging the bat
and it's his backswing, and he looks like he's never
decided to swing a bat in his entire life. That picture,
it is incredible.

Speaker 4 (01:08:25):
Hey quit quite Two other quick points jump out every night,
how few strikeouts there are? The other night the Reds
had a game where they had fifty plate appearances and
they had one strikeout. And then it also amazes me
as much as Sparky was Captain hook, he does relievers
like two and three innings at a time. There was
an elevenating game the other night, his starter went seventy
had run reliever go three in the other go to

(01:08:47):
in a twelve minning game. I think, oh my god,
the times have changed.

Speaker 3 (01:08:50):
No, Sparky Anderson is going to go down in history
as one of the greatest of all time just for
being on WKRP in Cincinnati. By the way, the fantastic,
no doubt. Hey, final quick thing. Seventy five, seventy six
or ninety your favorite all time Reds team?

Speaker 4 (01:09:08):
It's probably seventy five because that was the first As
a kid, I was nine, so that was my first
championship and it just I remember begging my parents to
stay up late for Game seven or Game six as
it went so late into the night and saying, I
can't possibly go to bed right now, and it was just,
you know, a classic World Series. It would be that team.

Speaker 3 (01:09:27):
When's the last time he rode the Beast at King's Island. Well,
you know, I've.

Speaker 4 (01:09:31):
Got a pacemaker, so I'm not technically I'm not allowed
to ride.

Speaker 1 (01:09:34):
That's my excuge, and I'm picking by it.

Speaker 4 (01:09:36):
I'm not supposed to ride roller coaster.

Speaker 3 (01:09:40):
Off the roller and we want you around all right. Well, hey,
hopefully this interview, this conversation didn't jinx it. But it
has been fun, especially lately watching this team. Always a
pleasure speaking with you. We'll do it again before let's
started the football season too, I promise.

Speaker 4 (01:09:59):
Sounds like a playing camp.

Speaker 3 (01:10:00):
Lance McAllister of the Big One in Cincinnati covers the Reds,
all the Cincinnati Sports, King's Island, Jungle, Gyms, all of it.
WKRP in Cincinnati. What a great show that was. By
the way, Yeah Jr. Says I get to see you

(01:10:23):
TONI pitch Wednesday, quick break will come back all right?
Anybody out there think I just jink jinks the Reds
with that conversation, but there's more than a handful that
would believe that you and I other size Stephen Holder
coats Camp Top of the Hour. My advice don't go
anywhere naughty three five one seven The Ride with JMV

(01:10:52):
how ninety three five and one oh seven five the
fan let us congratulate Tyrese Haliverton of the Pacers. And
this is where I'm going by because it's online right now.
And Jay Jones on their engagement, there was a I

(01:11:14):
guess this and this comes from her social media account.
We're I think this is uh in Aames, is it not?
He is proposing to her. Then his scooter's out there

(01:11:37):
and he's in the boot and everything. That is pretty awesome.
That part of it is you got the boot on
and it's scooter sitting out there. I'm gonna tell you
there are there are good dudes. Right Oftentimes people are
going to say, well, these guys are professionals, and they're

(01:11:59):
they're he is one of the all time good dudes.
That's pretty awesome in his boot and the scooter is
out there too. Now you can check it out. I
think it again this originated from from hers. I believe
he just seems like he's such a good sport about everything.

(01:12:24):
But that's pretty awesome. Well done. I'll tell you all
the time. You gotta do that bad boy ride. You
gotta do that bad boy ride. You're gonna have to
wear it forever. Never ever say can you go grab
the ring yourself? While I listened to this Greg Vaughan
at bat that is not good. The results are not positive.

(01:12:49):
Lance McAllister. A little bit earlier the podcast, at one
O seven five the fan dot Com, he mentioned Otani
gets the ball coming up on Wednesday, a series to
begin the week with the Dodgers. Meantime, most of the
eyeballs are going to be on and I would agree
with the National League Central being the best division in
baseball so far. Cubs and Brewers sixty two and forty

(01:13:12):
three apiece start a series which should be wildly entertaining too.
That's in Milwaukee seven forty later on tonight, Dodgers and
Reds in Cincinnati tonight at seven to ten, Cardinals and Marlins.
If you keep in track seven forty five tonight, that

(01:13:34):
is in Saint Louis, and the Cubs just ended that series. Best.
Oh yeah, by the way, best record in baseball. Toronto
Blue Jays sixty three and forty three. Are they stirring
the echoes of the days of George Bell and Jesse
Barfield or even the days after that with Roberto Alomar?

(01:13:56):
Give me Ernie Win at catcher for five hundred some
good stuff. No, but I mentioned the Cubs and the
White Sox had the cross towner over the weekend too,
which I think most of the time. It was a

(01:14:17):
blowout in the initial one by the White Sox, but
most of the time it's been fairly enjoyable. Uh. Colson Montgomery,
the pride of south Ridge High School, Southern Indiana, du
Boys County to fifty eight hit her right now with
the White Sox. Check out his home run total four
home runs on the season. Checked that three home runs

(01:14:44):
on the season and two fifty eight for the rookie
from du Boys County. Right there, two, three, nine, ten
to seventy is that number Steven Holder coming up at
the top of the hour, the quarterback battle in the
less more than a week, and other notes of interest
to I love the last McAllister conversation about lou Aniroumo.

(01:15:06):
He has great depth and perspective. With the good times,
they're really good times in Cincinnati for the now Colts
defensive coordinator. In the not so good times, where a
lot of people felt that maybe he was deservant of
being let go. Others felt that maybe he was scapegoaded
when he was cut loose, and now you're number one

(01:15:30):
for the Colts. And again that focus that they have
in the secondary, and there has been a lot of
talk and a lot of positivity about that secondary so far,
positivity about the quarterback battle, positivity about the secondary, and
not so much regarding being able to catch the football.

(01:15:52):
Seems like there are a lot of people that cover
this on a play in and playout basis up at
Graham Park and Westfield, and there's a lot of reference
to drops, and not just Adie Mitchell drops, but guys
that shouldn't really, none of these dudes should be d
You're wide receiver, you don't drop it. Lots of drops

(01:16:13):
so far, that part's not good. What is Kenny at
two three nine ten seventy, He joins us. Now, Hello, Kenny,
how are you?

Speaker 14 (01:16:22):
I'm doing dandy?

Speaker 10 (01:16:23):
Johnny?

Speaker 4 (01:16:23):
Hey, you going to be there Thursday night for that
big Colts practice?

Speaker 3 (01:16:27):
Thursday night. I will be there Thursday night, that big
Colts practice.

Speaker 9 (01:16:32):
We'll have to rep showers and talk a little smack brother.

Speaker 3 (01:16:36):
I think we will do. They sell beer up there, Yes,
they did. Well. Sounds like your sounds like you're buying Kenny.

Speaker 1 (01:16:45):
That No, I don't, I actually don't drink. I'll drink.

Speaker 3 (01:16:48):
I do. What the hell? Come on, man, well, john Key,
one of us, one of us does Kenny on nah Man,
I'll I'll be sure to see you up there, Kitty
coming up on Thursday. So yes, I will be back
you too, buddy, Thank you very much, thank you, and

(01:17:11):
will be up there coming up on Thursday. JMV my
official review of Monon John's Call and Happy Gilmour review
is a big fat D. So Peter Brady said. Didn't
Peter Brady get that on a uh when he wasn't
concentrating on school, got a big fat D. That means

(01:17:32):
something completely different now, but big fat D grade wise
back then, Mitt, you didn't get a good grade. That's
what Kevin Pelton, friend of this show from ESPN, gave
the Pacers off season, a big fat D. We're gonna
get him on the show and cuss him out here
relatively soon. The host of this program doesn't like that

(01:17:55):
at all.

Speaker 4 (01:17:58):
A D.

Speaker 3 (01:18:02):
I will say this if this team talking about the
Pacers goes near the form that we most embraced, and
that is the against all odds, whatever's necessary and the

(01:18:24):
whole underdog role. They work so well beneath that description.
If that is true, and that lasts into next season,
if that's just in general, the truth about this team,
I'm gonna tell you, everybody out there is giving guys

(01:18:44):
like TJ McConnell as much ammunition as possible. That is
the one thing and really the only reason why I
don't take issue with a lot of this negativity more
than I do. Like the mile stuff just pisses me
off because he should know better. I mean, let's face it,
as much as I like him and supporting him for

(01:19:06):
the better part of eight years, they carried his ass
in the finals, then you're gonna go find some better
talent in Milwaukee. So I don't like that at all.
And then he had the opportunity to go ahead and
walk that back, and the next day you kind of
doubled down on it. Just come on, man, these were
your guys, even if they're not your guys any longer,

(01:19:29):
they are your guy. You don't throw your guys under
the bus like that, do you. So that, Yeah, that
irritated me a great deal, But everything else, it all
to me, fuels the fire. And this has been a
fire stoked, really burning, raging within this Pacer team now

(01:19:52):
for the past couple of years, and we talked about
the whole team concept that we like a great deal,
the whole approach of the underdog role. It seems to
fit them like an absolute glove. So I don't mind it.
That's the point. I don't mind the big fat dee.

(01:20:17):
Jim mcaann Southern California to check in, so my inspired
by your talk with Lance Percallister largity Bourbon double shot
this Saturday night Oingo Boingoes Weird Science followed by some
Thomas Dolby. I like your last of the Bourbon double
shot Power of Science right there, Jim. It's well done.

(01:20:42):
Although the only only two songs out there that have
science in the title. She blinded me with Science and
Weird Science. I don't know if there's any other. There's
a politics. I don't know, there's a science. Something scientific.

Speaker 7 (01:21:01):
There's a scientist.

Speaker 3 (01:21:03):
The Scientists by Coldplay is one right, this is song
you know and Coldplay they're my brothers. There's a song
called science by System of a Down. Oh, System of
a Down Science. Let's play that really quick, James, Can
I imagine what this is going to sound like, right here,
prepare your ear lobes for assault. When do I roar?

(01:21:27):
Can I roar? Right now?

Speaker 7 (01:21:28):
It's probably coming up?

Speaker 3 (01:21:29):
Oh Science, that actually was time pretty good. I no
put that down on tape, James, thank you very much.
There's more than just those couple of songs of scientists.
Now find the Coldplay song of Scientists. Play that and
see how different that is than the system of a down?
Would you? This segment is by by the JMV take

(01:21:53):
over every Saturday night. Don't be one oh five point seven.
This is Coldplay a little different. Let's talk about some
ignus rock science. Good lord, I always stand up for Coldplay.

(01:22:14):
I don't know if I can stand up for Coldplay
at the beginning of this.

Speaker 7 (01:22:18):
This is a long term pressed.

Speaker 1 (01:22:21):
Tet.

Speaker 3 (01:22:21):
Let's start really quick. I could hit a post on anything,
even songs I've never heard. Seriously, you guys, remember the
character Nicaragua Mark Patrick used to do on The Bob
and Tom Show That was just so great. I think
I am actually the real life Nicaragua. There's another reason.

(01:22:44):
I'm sure Mark Patrick somewhere is incredibly proud that real
life world's most cliche DJ right there that's awesome, so
science songs. Thank you, Jim mckann Southern CALIFORNI you for
the check in. Steven Helder at top of the hour.
I'm going to be a coach camp coming up on Thursday.

(01:23:05):
Cannot wait to see you out there. And then now,
this is really going to be the last kind of
slow week until we really fire things up. We're going
to be all over the place. One more thing before
the break. I don't think to my knowledge that Brent
has decided on a tavern tour stop. Remember we had

(01:23:25):
a bit of an issue with the August destination because
it evidently closed abruptly, and these things are all put
in motion months in advance, but there was a closing
with our destination for August, which means the tavern tour
stop for the month of August. Availability is wide open

(01:23:50):
at JMV ten seventy. I will pass it along, and
we have so many good ones so far. But if
you want to get your favorite tavern, or maybe it's
your tavern in at JMV ten seventy, let me pass
that along to Brent Halverson. More of these kind and
not so kind reviews of Happy Gilmore Too and Steven

(01:24:11):
Hold the Top of the Hour Triple A Membership Lounge
via YouTube live and ninety three to five and one
seven five Fan.

Speaker 5 (01:24:19):
The Ride with JMV in the Beat Gooser here in
the beat Oozer ninety three five and one oh seven
five the Fan.

Speaker 3 (01:24:30):
You give me Paul's boutique right here? This doesn't cost
does there anything like that? It may yeah? Oh yeah,
you're playing it right firm Spotify, aren't you.

Speaker 1 (01:24:42):
You can go?

Speaker 3 (01:24:43):
Yeah? This is uh, this is risky right here sounds
of science I could not remember I forgot, and thank
you Tom Lewis for coming up with Paul's Boutique here
and the sounds of Silence from the are Silence Sounds
of Science from the Beastie Boys right their re entry
song from James James, thank you very much. I couldn't

(01:25:05):
remember how this went logically because I couldn't remember it
from Paul's boutique. But Tom Lewis exceptional with that science
song right there. I love that album too. Where's my Head?
MTS would One of my favorite is Applied Science by

(01:25:26):
three eleven. As you're coming up with a lot of
them right here, aren't you well done? You saw this
a little bit earlier, Dick Vitale deeply hurt when ESPN
removed him from calling Carolina and Duke.

Speaker 1 (01:25:53):
Oh.

Speaker 3 (01:25:54):
Lance McCallister, if you missed that. A little bit earlier,
we talked about the red starting a series with the
Dodgers later on to night. The Reds as of late
the tremendous to this point National League Central, especially at
the top of the Cubs and the Brewers starting a
series of their own in Milwaukee coming up later on tonight.

(01:26:16):
Good stuff with Lance.

Speaker 1 (01:26:23):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:26:23):
Later on this week, Thursday, we're going to be live
at Coach Camp. Will be there in the afternoon for
that night practice. Grand Park. Can't wait to see you
on Thursday up there. Yeah. Otherwise not on the road.
Besides that this week Brandon and Bill coming up on

(01:26:45):
the other side. Stephen Holder is going to join us too,
and those of you that have seen Happy Gilmore too.
We are taking your reviews because they have not been
kind and a lot of people seem like they're surprised. Well,
I can't believe it was like this. You should not

(01:27:06):
have been surprised. You should have known. Gotta be some
enjoyment in there, Netflix, James, Is that where I can
watch it. How much is it on Netflix?

Speaker 7 (01:27:17):
Like the monthly subscription?

Speaker 3 (01:27:20):
Do I have to pay that and then watch it?

Speaker 1 (01:27:21):
Yeah?

Speaker 7 (01:27:21):
I think you'd have to pay the money to do
any of that.

Speaker 3 (01:27:27):
So how many to watch sports?

Speaker 1 (01:27:31):
Now?

Speaker 3 (01:27:31):
How many different streams do I have to to watch?

Speaker 1 (01:27:35):
Yeah?

Speaker 7 (01:27:35):
To watch every like every NFL game?

Speaker 3 (01:27:38):
You need the NFL, I mean, the NBA is going
to be some of those games are going to be.
So what I have? What do I have to have?

Speaker 1 (01:27:43):
Now?

Speaker 7 (01:27:44):
NFL you'd need Netflix, I believe because they need Christmas
games to get the Amazon for the Thursday night football games.

Speaker 3 (01:27:51):
So my dumb ass is playing three to ten right now,
So it's going to be what how much more is
that going to add to my ridiculous monthly bill?

Speaker 7 (01:28:00):
Assuming each streaming service, because they have different tiers with
ads and all that stuff, assuming you want to do
the ad free one. I mean, that's probably a good
fifteen sixteen bucks per pop at this point. I think Netflix.
I think Netflix is fifteen dollars a month. But I this.

Speaker 3 (01:28:14):
Should get me around the three point thirty. By the way,
I'm not even talking about getting you know, it's not bundled.
I have Johnson County fibrough I have to add too,
so that's probably seventy something like that.

Speaker 7 (01:28:27):
It's not inexpensive.

Speaker 3 (01:28:29):
So I'm going to be somewhere in the neighborhood of
four hundred dollars a month with all this stuff. So
who's who wants to whip my ass? Seriously? Somebody actually
met me in the story yesterday and go, hey, you
want me to go and kick your ass right now?
So yeah, I deserve it will be four hundred bucks
when all this is done. Here what Stephen Holder? Now?
Almost a week deep into the Colts Trading camp. We'll

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talk about the quarterback battles and a lot more with
Steven and whomever is on hold. We'll do that coming
up too. Don't Go Anywhere, Notty three five one oh
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Speaker 8 (01:29:07):
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Speaker 3 (01:29:20):
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I know some of you out there, remember when I
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play this? This is a happy song. This makes me
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cranked us up really quick. This is a Lovely Day
by Bill Withers. I want to keep time all right
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by Dad Colts camp for me coming up on Thursday
for the first time, and I'll get reacquainted with our
next guest on the Andy Moore Automotive Group potline as
we do right now. We share time talking Colts with
Stephen Holder of ESPN at ESPN dot com. Well, I

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can't wait to see you on Thursday. It's been too
damn long.

Speaker 14 (01:30:36):
It has been because you know, I've been out of
been out of the pocket. It's been summertime. But it
is summer no longer, at least summer break no longer.

Speaker 3 (01:30:44):
Yes, yes, and you got some things to actually be
talking about right now, So I do want to start.
I know everybody wants to start with the quarterback and
all what we will, but has maybe the theme so
far because that's what I see the most from you
and your colleagues that are discussing what's going on practice

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after practice. There seems like that there is a large
amount of drops going on up there right now, is
that kind of just what you normally get at the
start of camp or has this been somewhat of an
inordinate amount to this point early in camp.

Speaker 14 (01:31:24):
It has bothered some. For me, at least, I do
think that drops are to be somewhat expected when you
start training camp, because you know, guys have been away,
they lose their rhythm a little bit. You know you're
not as on the screws. That's okay, don't I don't
have a huge problem accepting occasional drops early in training camp.

(01:31:45):
That's fine. This is not occasional. This has been regular
in fact, and so Michael Pittman, for example, had one
today on a I guess a crosser from Anthony Richardson
where the ball was on the money. He just didn't
see it into his hands and turned to run and
the balls on the ground. And that's happening way too much.

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There were some now other than that, I thought today
the balls that weren't caught, I would say they were.
They were well defended, they were contested throws. So not
as many today, But I think there have been not
that I think I'm telling you, there have been days
over the past week where there were multiple drops you know,
in one day, and that's before they even gotten pads,

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so you're not going to get hit catch the ball man.
It's it's disheartening and it has affected the quarterbacks. Look,
they have had their own struggles, but but they haven't
been helped in the large part by the by the
wide receivers.

Speaker 1 (01:32:45):
And that's it's it's a concern.

Speaker 3 (01:32:47):
I'd say, how does that muddy the water in this competition?

Speaker 14 (01:32:53):
I mean, I think you can separate the drops from
the quarterbacks throws and decisions and that kind kind of thing,
but it definitely it muddies the water when you start
looking at, like, for example, preseason numbers. You know, when
we start talking about who has been better than the
other guy, one of the things you got to consider
is who's completed the ball and who hasn't. And so

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if you're if this continues into the preseason games, it
can skew the numbers. I do think that's a possibility.
I mean, frankly, it's skewed Anthony Richardson's numbers a bit
last year. And that is not to say he completed
nearly enough passes. Okay, let me be clear, but the
Colts were on the high side when it came to drops,

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you know, particularly their tight ends, and I think that
can hurt a quarterback. And here's how here's the other
way it hurts you. It's not just about your numbers
or just how the guy looks. It's not about that,
in fact, in fact, that's that's not the most important thing.
Where it hurts you is being able to sustain drives
and how the quarterbacks really get.

Speaker 1 (01:33:57):
In a rhythm.

Speaker 14 (01:33:57):
You're getting a rhythm by being able to get first
down and keep the change moving and you stay on
the field. When you have drops, they are drive killers.
So now the quarterbacks on the sideline, whatever rhythm you
had hoped to maybe sustain is now gone. So that's
where I think it's notable that drops can really I
think impact the quarterback.

Speaker 3 (01:34:18):
He is Steven Holder of ESPN on ESPN dot Com
on the Andy Moore Automotive Group potline. All right, Dan,
we know where ad Mitchell may rank right now. Is
he having a level of camp that is man roster wise?
Is that troublesome warriorsome there at all? I'm just I'm

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kind of curious because how much time will you invest
if this continues to happen? At this level. I'm as
so many he's going nowhere this year. I'm not suggesting that,
but it seems like the clock may be ticking on
him just a little bit, especially after last year.

Speaker 14 (01:34:54):
Is that true, Well, I would say in disrespect, I
think when it comes to how much opportunity he's going
to get, I think.

Speaker 1 (01:35:03):
He has to earn it now.

Speaker 14 (01:35:05):
I thought last year, when when we got to the
end of the season and he had repeatedly failed to execute,
I thought his time was up in terms of like,
stop going to this guy.

Speaker 1 (01:35:16):
You know what I mean. I don't mean he's getting cut.

Speaker 3 (01:35:18):
Yeah, yeah, right, sure, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:35:20):
For sure.

Speaker 14 (01:35:21):
It's more about opportunity and whether they're going to put
you in position to have to make plays and repeatedly
I thought of the lack of execution, I thought was appalling. Okay,
and I'm not killing him because he would not be
the first rookie that I could say that about. Okay,
I can say that about a lot of rookies that
I've seen over my twenty five years and twenty years

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of NFL coverage at least. And that's fine, that's to
be expected. But I want to see progress. It's not
always a straight line. That's okay, But over the course
of you know, days, weeks, and months, you want there
to be an upward trend. And I think what I've
seen in this training camp suggests the opposite with Ady Mitchell.

(01:36:04):
And that's the concern he has been. I think suspect
number one with the drops number one, okay, unequivocally, And
that's where I have an issue. Is like, you got
to here a problem. Last year. If you're Ady Mitchell,
the problem was finishing plays. Well, he's not finishing them
now either. In fact, he's had a lot of outright drops.

(01:36:26):
I have to think it's it's frustrated the quarterbacks to
a degree. He's got to be better. And if you're him,
I mean, if you're the coaches, I should say, think
about it. You have Michael Pittman, Josh Downs, Alec Pearce.
There's enough talent there that you don't really have to.

Speaker 1 (01:36:42):
Play Ady Mitchell.

Speaker 14 (01:36:44):
Okay, you don't have to, not extensively. At least last
year they chose to play him. They chose to put
him on the field in position to give him opportunities
to make plays. I think you have to give him
less rope, so we'll see what happens.

Speaker 3 (01:37:02):
So Stephen Holder who joins us, so was today by
far Richardson's best practice? And I would have to ask
you where would if that's true, it compared to some
of the good practices you've seen him of the past.
And I do want to add that we all understand
nothing matters until it really matters. We're just going on

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the level of practice today, and what you saw in
your description of it was it his best.

Speaker 14 (01:37:32):
I think that's a fair statement. And look, when we
talk about practice, we have what we have right, and
what we have is what they've done in practice. That's
all we got to go by. Right now, I think
it matters because when you have two guys that you
are trying to contrast and compare, you have to look

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at everything. I mean, the Colts told us everything matters,
so let's act accordingly. Right They say every snap matters,
every throw matters, every practice matters. Okay, so we're going
to act accordingly. As what I would say now, I
think we should all keep it in perspective.

Speaker 1 (01:38:10):
That's true.

Speaker 14 (01:38:12):
And I will never be the guy to make too
big a deal about practice, believe me, but it's all
we got right now, and I do think he's been fine. Today.
I thought he was really sharp. And what I like is,
I mean, overall he's just been okay. There's nothing special,
But I think today and then maybe I think one

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or two other days, i'd say, in particular, I saw
him really be sharp. The question is can he do
it consistently? I don't know that, but it is a
window and a preview of what he can be if
he can, just if he can just do this and
ale with a little more consistency.

Speaker 1 (01:38:49):
Here's what I like.

Speaker 14 (01:38:50):
I've seen Anthony Richardson be better in the short and
intermediate game. I mean, that's the whole ball of wax
with this guy. I don't have any concerns about him
throwing the ball fifty yards down the field, But I
also can tell you they're not going to do that
six seven, eight times a day a game, right, I mean,
those are few and far between. You've got to be
consistent on the short stuff, and you got to be

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consistent in getting the ball out to that first read
if it's open. And I have seen him, I think,
be much better and much more decisive in doing that.
And I'll tell you why. I think it's notable because,
as he pointed out the other day, that's where his
focus was in this offseason work. The focus was on,

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let's work on the short stuff and the rhythmic passing.
You know, he look, he can throw the ball on
a rope thirty yards down the field in between two
defenders amazingly. He's really good at that. But those are
not going to be the majority of your throws. So
that he's been more decided.

Speaker 3 (01:39:54):
What are some of the larger differences you've seen in
less than a week.

Speaker 1 (01:39:58):
But it's better.

Speaker 3 (01:39:59):
Yeah, so you kind of cut out there for a moment.
Stephen hild is with us. What would have been some
of the larger differences you have seen in both quarterbacks
through these early days of practice.

Speaker 14 (01:40:11):
I'd say the big thing is, I mean Richardson hasn't
been he hasn't been really aggressive, which I thought was
gonna set the apart, you know, because Daniel Jones is
not really looking.

Speaker 1 (01:40:25):
To stretch the field. I think he gets a little bit.

Speaker 14 (01:40:28):
Defensive about that when you ask him, because when he
does do it, we ask him about like, hey, that
was a pretty aggressive throw there. Would tell us what
you saw, and he kind of like downplays it, and
I think it's because he's heard that before. You know
that he's not aggressive, that he doesn't stretch the field,
but he's done a time or two. I think, Anthony,
I think the last couple of practices has done it more.

(01:40:50):
And I think the big play potential for me sets
them apart. Look, I mean, there's a long way to go,
and I this thing will look like in a week
or two. But but we know that that if they're
if they're equal in other ways, and I think they've
been largely equal to some degree, if they're equal in

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other ways, then I think the big play potential has
to set them apart. I know I thought what would
set them apart going in If you would have asked
me before camp, I would have said, I expected Richard
excuse me, Daniel Jones uh to basically complete more passes
and to be more predictable in terms of being a

(01:41:34):
higher percentage passer. I thought that's what would set them apart.
But that hasn't been the case. And I think that
is it's to the detriment of Daniel Jones because as
I see this, Okay, no one, no one's asking me
for my opinion. But but if you want to if
you want to think about it in this in this way,
I think this is a smart way to think about this.

(01:41:57):
You have Chris Ballard and Carl Ursay Gordon and both
this excuse me last week saying on the record they
think that Anthony Richardson still has time and that he
can still be that guy and that we should be patient. Right,
that was the message. Okay, So if that is the message,
then you are telling me you are going to govern
yourself with that attitude. So what that tells me is

(01:42:19):
that Daniel Jones has to beat him out, like he
has to take the job. But if you're pulling the
if you're pulling the rug out from under him, then
why are you telling us to be patient?

Speaker 1 (01:42:28):
Right?

Speaker 14 (01:42:28):
So, Anthony richards was the quarterback last year, the incumbent
in my estimation, the way they've couched this, Daniel Jones
is a challenger. He's got to go take it from him.
He has not done that through a week of training camp,
for whatever that's worth.

Speaker 1 (01:42:42):
So that's how I'm.

Speaker 14 (01:42:44):
Thinking about it. I could be wrong, but I think
that's the only way to interpret it.

Speaker 3 (01:42:47):
And I go all the way back Stephen to when
this whole quarterback competition started, and if you remember you
and I were talking about it, I thought, yeah, whatever,
I mean, really, what there's saying is what they have
to say, what they need to say until we see
actual the reality of it in games, because that's that's

(01:43:11):
the way that it has to go. So I always
thought when everybody, for well, you know, Daniel Jones in
week one going to be the starter and all this,
you know, without injury, I didn't think that was going
to be the case whatsoever. I don't think this quarterback
competition so far in less than a week has been
a bad thing. I just think all along we kind

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of know where this is going, because this is the
one last shot to see what you have. Any guy
that so far hasn't been close to living up to
any expectations.

Speaker 1 (01:43:45):
Yeah, I do think.

Speaker 14 (01:43:47):
Look, there are there are probably a fair number of
fans that have moved past Anthony Richardson and that's okay.
I mean, he completed forty seven percent of his path
is last year. I mean, like, I'm not going to
defend that, okay. I would say though, ultimately, if you're
the Colts, let's say they went with Daniel Jones and
let's say this thing is close and there's no real

(01:44:09):
discernible difference if you go with Daniel Jones and he's
Daniel Jones, right, the Daniel Jones we've come to know,
and Anthony Richardson's sitting on the sideline.

Speaker 1 (01:44:20):
I mean, how do you square that? Right?

Speaker 3 (01:44:23):
Yeah, I mean it seems like it's over. It'd be
over in the court of public. It may be over now,
but it certainly would then, yes.

Speaker 14 (01:44:31):
Right, because then you're saying he's not better than this guy.
We don't think he can outplay this guy who's not
very good, you know, so, and think look about look
at Daniel Jones. What we have is we have five
years of history to call upon. With Anthony, we have
seventeen starts. So look, I'm not telling you the guys

(01:44:53):
going to the Hall of Fame. I'm not even telling
you the starting quarterback. All I'm saying is there is
still more to learn. I would say, though, if you
if you start Anthony Richardson, let's say they let's say
my theory is right, right that they say, let's go
with Anthony.

Speaker 1 (01:45:08):
See how it goes.

Speaker 14 (01:45:10):
Look, it doesn't really hurt you to put him out
there and he either does one or two things. He
sinks or swims, or he gets hurt again, and then
the decision gets made for you. You don't have to
stick with him, You're you're just giving him another opportunity.
So I see, I would see it that way. I
think if Anthony Richardson starts, you're giving him that basically

(01:45:30):
the final opportunity. If you said be patient, well that's
that's how you demonstrate your patients is by giving him
one one shot and if he can't do it, you
pull him, You put Daniel Jones in and you go
on with your life. Or if he gets hurt, Daniel Jones,
you're the starter. Anthony Richardson will talk to you later, right,
I mean that's where you're at. So I think that's

(01:45:50):
the way you play it. I think that's the way
they will play it. But wait, wait, one last thing. Yeah,
provided provided Anthony doesn't crash and burn, as.

Speaker 3 (01:45:59):
Long as it's so, I'm saying, but what do you
think has to happen? Do you have something kind of
cobble together in your mind, your opinion that has to
happen with his team for them to maintain as they
have the past couple of years, with the exception obviously
of the defensive coordinating position. What what do they have
to do? What clip do they need to win to

(01:46:21):
maintain for another year?

Speaker 1 (01:46:24):
You mean for the regime too.

Speaker 3 (01:46:26):
Yeah, for for Shane, for you know, all the above.

Speaker 1 (01:46:32):
I mean, I think it has to be playoffs.

Speaker 14 (01:46:36):
And look, I would say with Shane, it's interesting, Like Shane,
I don't know for a fact, Like I'm not going
to stake my reputation on saying Shane is a good
head coach because I don't I don't know if we
really know that, But I would say this in his defense,
he has basically had a five hundred team for two years,

(01:46:56):
effectively for two years, and has done it with out
consistent quarterback play. So that reflects well on you as
a head coach or whatever it is, that you know
that your role is there. That reflects well on Shames Tiken.
But the problem here is that it's not about the
last two years. It's really about the last eight to

(01:47:18):
ten to twelve years, you know, I mean, they haven't
won the division since twenty fourteen. You know, I told
the guys on ESPN Radio about that yesterday morning, and
I you know, we know that but every time I
say that on a national media outlet, people say, no,
that's got to be wrong.

Speaker 1 (01:47:37):
You got to be kidnaped.

Speaker 14 (01:47:38):
They can't believe it, And then they think about it
and they're like, wait, you're right. So what I'm getting
at is, frankly, I think it's playoffs or bust, and frankly,
you need to win the division to make to leave
no doubt frankly, But you know, look, it all depends
on how it plays out too. You know, if let's
say Houston goes on a tier this year, well, I

(01:48:00):
think people can live with that, right, But if Houston
is what they were last year and you're still lollygagging
and you're not winning the division or challenging for the division,
then what are we talking about?

Speaker 1 (01:48:10):
Right?

Speaker 14 (01:48:10):
So I do think there you're talking about all cards,
I mean, all bets being off at that point, and
then we'll just have to see what the sisters decided.
He is, but I think the goal minimum's got to
be playoffs.

Speaker 3 (01:48:23):
He is Steven Older of ESPN at ESPN dot com.
He's on the Andy Moore Automotive Group plotline. So I've
seen a lot of the positivity coming out of the
secondary so far, the playmaking ability, the glue likability, certainly
of Mooney, and how much of that is a product
of the new direction first year defensive coordinator here, lou Anarumo.

Speaker 14 (01:48:49):
Well, it's that and it's personnel. It's very simple. I
would say. I've heard I've heard coaches, multiple coaches over
the years say that you get what you emphasize, meaning
what you focus on in practice will lead to results. Well,
I'm gonna twist it a little bit. I think here

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from a personnel perspective, what you focus on will lead
to results. I mean, look, they focused on the secondary.
They went out there, they got cam Binam, they got
moone Ward, and then they made a really important draft
pick and Justin Wally And wouldn't you know all three
of those guys are making plays. Imagine that, all right?

(01:49:32):
Justin Wally, by the way, you know, I get that nationally,
he's not a guy that people are talking about. But
this guy's gonna play, man, this guy is going to play.
He came down against Tyler Warren today and had a
pass breakup. Look he's a lot smaller than Tyler Warren. Okay,
he went over his back and got his hand in there.
And got a pass breakup and Tyler Warren catches everything. Buddy, Okay,

(01:49:55):
he did not catch this ball. And I just think
that's the aggressive mindset, that it's a combination of the
personnel and the scheme. This scheme is going to allow
them to mix it up and to be physical and to.

Speaker 1 (01:50:08):
Be in guy's faces.

Speaker 14 (01:50:10):
Look, Cam Biden had I believe ten pass deflections last season.
I think that led the NFL. This guy has a
nose for the football. He hasn't taken it away as much.
But my point is his skill set suggest he's a
guy who has a nose for the ball.

Speaker 1 (01:50:25):
And then I told you about Wally Mooney.

Speaker 14 (01:50:27):
Ward is all over Michael Pittman, and Pittman had a
better day today, but I'm just saying it's been tough
for him and that's what you want to see. I
love the secondary and I think this secondary is going
to be if this defense gets on track, this secondary
will be the difference.

Speaker 1 (01:50:45):
Go back to last year.

Speaker 14 (01:50:46):
Okay, they're pulling guys off of waivers in Week one
trying to get to opening day. That is a disastrous
way to build a unit, to build a defense, and
I know it was because of injuries, but that's because
he didn't have depth. So Loui an Arumo was was

(01:51:07):
not going to play any such games with Chris Ballast
clearly and told him I need some guys, and he
got his guys.

Speaker 3 (01:51:14):
Yeah, it's a way that it sounds. It sounds like that.
It's you know, Ana Roumo, they're they're they're they're stacking
with talent in a fashion in which has been beneficial
to an Arumo in the past, right when he was Cincinnati.

Speaker 14 (01:51:29):
Yes, and and frankly, I think I think he fletched
his muscle a little bit. You know, Look, he came
in here, and you know, I have to assume he
had other options maybe or at least was talking to
some other teams. And I think it's if you're him,
if you look at the film before you took before
he took this job, if he took a quick look
at the film, it wouldn't take long for him to say,

(01:51:53):
all right, there's some talent there, but I can't play
with that secondary. I mean, what do you think He's
first impression was right that that was just not good enough.
And I think he had I believe he was honest
about it because lou Ana Rumo has the standing to
do that, and he very clearly did. The guys that

(01:52:13):
they acquired are guys to do what he loves, so
they gave him the players that he wanted, that he needed, frankly,
and that is something Chris Ballard has never really done
consistently in the secondary. So I don't think he did
it without any provocation to doing it. I think he
was motivated to do it because number one, the results

(01:52:34):
weren't good, and number two, because this defensive coordinator he
hired required it. So there's a little bit I mean,
you know theorizing there. Let me be clear, but I'm
with you. That's what it looks like. And when you
hear Anna Rumo talk about those guys that that came
in here, he talks about them as if he had

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a lot to do with that.

Speaker 1 (01:52:56):
That's what I take from it.

Speaker 3 (01:52:57):
Yes, Steven Older of VESPN ed ESPN dot com, he
is on the Andy Moore Automotive Group potline. I will
see you up there on Thursday and we will continue
discussions and see what's going on later in the week.
Thank you, buddy.

Speaker 1 (01:53:11):
All Right, man, you can see for yourself.

Speaker 3 (01:53:12):
I'll see that I'm gonna be right there. I'm gonna
be in the I'm gonna bring the cooler temperatures with
me too, from what eye witness. So yes, all right,
see I know, see see you there man. All right,
Steven Holder on the Andy Moore Automotive Group potline. Shall
I take a break? Indeed the two three, nine, ten

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seventy the other side. We'll do some calls till the
end of the show. Uh tomorrow we'll explain. I know
Charles Arbuckle is going to join us coming up on Wednesday,
but uh, interesting week is going to unfold, including on
the road at Colts Camp coming up on Thursday. I
shall explain. That's next. Ninety three to five, one oh
seven five The Fan, the Ride with JMV.

Speaker 7 (01:53:56):
Well not really, I felt it on my leg.

Speaker 5 (01:53:58):
Come on, I don't want to see ninety three to
five and one oh seven five the Fan JV.

Speaker 3 (01:54:05):
I know there's not been much discussion on the TBT,
but did you watch the one last night with fail Harder?

Speaker 1 (01:54:14):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:54:14):
I did watch that. What was the other team fail Harder?
And was it the Defending Check? I can't remember now?
Oh yeah, I'm sorry it was the D three ors. Yeah,
the D three. We are D three. Hey, listen, I'm
gonna search for Whop wherever I can find who most
of the time. And I did find myself watching that

(01:54:35):
last night, and the elam ending was incredible, incredible. I've
watched a lot of these games, and I can't remember
one that was as wild as that. It was like

(01:54:58):
a twenty plus point lead. I'm telling it was like
a wrestling match too. But the elam ending, I believe
in real time from a time the elam ending was established.
It was forty minutes in actual time until the end.

(01:55:24):
This from Doug. Question for you, JMV. Who do you
want to win the quarterback position and start this year? Well, listen,
I think that everybody should want Richardson to start. And
I think I already know. I felt the year ago.
I already know. But if he's on the roster versus

(01:55:46):
Daniel Jones, if you're going to toss it up, toss
it up. But at some point I want a decision
to be an actual decision to be made, so I
would suggest it be Richardson, and I thought it was
going to be Richardson all along the whole quarterback competition thing.

(01:56:09):
I don't think it's bad to say it. I don't
think it's a negative to say it, But I think ultimately,
what you're going to do since you kept him around
for this particular year, I mean, what are you telling
about everybody? If he doesn't you're meeting out by Daniel Jones,

(01:56:30):
And I think that also dug leads to that extra
special significant layer of apathy. Then, for example, those that
called in the show a little bit earlier talking about
That's how I would put it. You, I have believe

(01:56:53):
it either it's all of those prove it to me.
Things completely fair, there's no hatred going on, completely fair.
I don't believe a damn thing until I can see it.
I don't know how you get much more accurate than
that last year. Yeah, I know I made the determination.

(01:57:18):
A it's over and move on? Am I going to
be right? We'll see Bill's at two, three, nine, ten
to seventy right now, Bill Walker to the show. How
this week outstanding? To see you at Taylor's Pub. Now
you probably know that we have an opening next month,
the month of August. I bet I know where you

(01:57:39):
would like to see us go? What tavern you're looking for?

Speaker 10 (01:57:43):
Well, it's I mean the rally cry here in the
East Side is come to the Mud.

Speaker 3 (01:57:48):
I love the Mutt. I love Mike Manley. Mike Manley
in the company some of my favorite people of all time.
At tenth and Shadelay.

Speaker 10 (01:57:56):
Yeah, I'm gonna be up there in a minute. But
the heaven Hill product line and is prominently displayed. Yes,
it is there there at the bar.

Speaker 1 (01:58:03):
So it's a.

Speaker 10 (01:58:05):
It's always got my vote, as as you know. But
I wanted to say a couple of things. Number one
about NASCAR. You know, you got to change when this
race is run. I mean I had a chance to
go to the brickyard yesterday and I chose a swimming
pool instead.

Speaker 3 (01:58:20):
I think a lot of people had the same choice.

Speaker 10 (01:58:23):
Yes, And you know back in the day, uh, they
didn't are used to AC and then Kart. They didn't
televise the ND five hundred in real time. They had
to watch it on tape delay on Channel six. So,
uh is NASCAR going to do something like that to
try to to try to coerce uh more.

Speaker 3 (01:58:44):
I think this is it. I absolutely think this is it.
I think you just kind of go, all right, well,
this is the product, this is how the product we
know this translates, I mean they I mean, look how
wild they got with the whole what Verizon two hundred
road course for three years. I just I don't think
there's anything else you can do, and you just kind

(01:59:06):
of say, all right, we're going to go here. It's
special to us, and this is what sixty eight thousand
people are going to look like compared to over three
hundred thousand in late May here.

Speaker 10 (01:59:17):
Exactly. So I hope they hope they change change. I
know contractually they're probably go to other tracks and they're
probably tied and legally, but it's NASCAR. And if you
want to if you want to say Indianapolis is a
location then that people are going to go to, uh,
then you're going to have to change the time.

Speaker 3 (01:59:33):
And the Bubble Wallace story was as good as you
could ask for. I thought, especially when you went out
there in that blast furnace in general to watch this
and then it took so damn long to finish it,
you know, I thought that that was and I'm talking
about a compelling story. Bill, You could not have found
a more compelling story, even more so than you know,

(01:59:56):
Kyle Larson going back to back as he attempted to do.

Speaker 1 (02:00:00):
Yeah, it was.

Speaker 10 (02:00:00):
It was quite a race, but again more interest when
you you you schedule it, so that's weatherwise and everything.
It'll bring the passive fans out. But I wanted to
talk one thing about the Bengals and and we talked
last week at Taylor's Club about the Porte resident, former
Hoosier Charles Finley, who was the owner of the Oakland

(02:00:23):
A's when they won their World championships back in the
back in the day, and all his players hated him
because he was he was extremely tight with a dollar.
He was he came from the insurance business. He was
tied with a dollar and and he ended up breaking
up his team that consisted of Reggie Jackson. Jene Tennis

(02:00:45):
was their catcher, Raley Fingers catfish hunter. And really what
Charles Finley did was he treated the players so bad
that it kind of opened the door to free agency
and then he lost all his players because of it.

Speaker 1 (02:00:58):
So I don't know, I didn't know.

Speaker 3 (02:01:00):
He's not as known for that as he is for
the outlandis stuff that he did.

Speaker 10 (02:01:06):
Oh yeah, you know when he was the owner before
the Open Days, we were the Oaklan Days, they were the
Kansas City athletes. And in nineteen sixty four on the
Beatles World Tour, the Beatles only had one day of
the North American leg of their tour where they had
the day off and they were scheduled to go to
New Orleans and I say a day off where they
weren't traveling by nineteen sixties type transportation or playing a show.

(02:01:32):
They only had one day off because they wanted to
go down and hear some jazz and relax, and Charles
Finley convinced Beatles manager Brian Epstein to come and play
in Kansas City for four hundred and fifty thousand dollars. Now,
when the Beatles played the State Fairgrounds here, it was
the only venue the only time that they played two

(02:01:52):
shows in one day. They had a day show and
they had a night show. Day show brought twelve thousand
people into the into the Colisee, and the night show
was nineteen thousand. But they never did two shows again,
and that was the only time they did, and that
was because they stay fair back in the day and
everything was really really not that it's not cool now,
but I mean it was.

Speaker 1 (02:02:12):
A big, big deal.

Speaker 10 (02:02:13):
So and then the Beatles ended up ended up doing
that Kansas City Show and John Lennon didn't like Charles
Finley because they thought it was you know, I thought
it was something else.

Speaker 3 (02:02:23):
The swinging age back in the day right.

Speaker 14 (02:02:25):
There, definitely.

Speaker 10 (02:02:27):
And I kind of look at the Bengals as doing
some of these older owners try to try to work
off a template that was that worked, you know, like
maybe twenty or thirty years ago or so. And you know,
for the Bengals, and I'm not a Bengal fan. I
I don't dislike them or anything, but I recognize they're
really good and they if they screw this up by

(02:02:49):
not signing these players and getting away from their business
model a little bit, they're going to blow the whole
roll windows.

Speaker 3 (02:02:56):
I mean, and you can. It makes it much more
difficult to navigate when you don't have the most major
piece of the puzzle in place, which they do right now.
So that does give you at quarterback, because you have
Joe Burrow, that gives you some some wiggle room, whereas
with others really not so much. We'll see if we

(02:03:17):
can get to the mutt that is in the opportunity
Ben coming up and tell Mike I said hello when
you go there tonight we'll do well. Mike Manley and
Manly's Irish Mut's one of my favorite places, by the way,
to be sure. Uh, the Baseball Hall of Fame induction stuff.

(02:03:43):
They saw that the speech that the late now Dave
Parker wrote that that was very Dave Parker asked, that's
some good stuff. Baseball Tonight get a big series starting
at top of the National League Central with the Cubs
and the Brewer in Milwaukee this evening, and then the
Reds and the Dodgers game one of an early week

(02:04:06):
set on Wednesday. Otani gets the ball, so that's when
the biggest crowd will probably be there in Cincinnati. But
the Reds playing really good baseball as of late. Lance
McCallister talked about that a little bit earlier the show.
The podcast at one oh seven five fan dot Com
and Steven Hold are also on the show. You can

(02:04:26):
find that within the podcast. Our golf outing and again,
as I mentioned, we are looking. I'm assuming brit is
still looking. I have not had a decision at least
cross my desk yet as far as where we're going
at August, but we had an abrupt closing in our
spot for the Tavern tour coming up in August, so

(02:04:47):
we kind of gave it the proverbial jump ball last
week and a lot of you are giving us your
recommendations for a tavern tour stop and Bill had Manly's
Irish month at tenth in Shadelin. That is a place
we absolute love, so that is in consideration as well.
If you guys want to throw something in, you certainly
can at JAMV ten seventy. I will pass them along

(02:05:09):
to Brent Halverson quick break. We'll come back final time
of the show on the road on Thursday. I shall
explain in what is going to start a busy time
of year. We cannot wait. Don't go anywhere. It's Natty
three to five and one oh seven five the Fan,
the ride with JMV.

Speaker 5 (02:05:28):
Thank you for your support. Ninety three five and one
oh seven five the Fan.

Speaker 3 (02:05:34):
I didn't want to give a shout out our friend
Darnell from Broad Ripple, Darnell who has been a part
of the Meatball and the success of his beat ball
team for a number of years. The Indie Thunder beat
baseball team completed the perfect season, winning the World Series

(02:05:56):
going twenty six and zero, and we've talked about this
with with d before and had some of his players
on before too.

Speaker 1 (02:06:09):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (02:06:09):
This is an adaptive sport of baseball for the blind
and visually impaired. The sixth title in nine years. Darnell
is a friend of this show, been long since a
front of this show. And congratulations to Darnell and his team,
the Indie Thunder and yet another championship that is well done.

Speaker 4 (02:06:37):
Uh?

Speaker 3 (02:06:37):
Is Steve called in here? Steve Botner? Was that his name?
That is the owner of Carmel's premier pickleball club, Pickle
on Penn. I'll see the indoor courts lookoutstanding right there.
I'm thinking that's when I'm going to get my first
pickle ball. I've not played pickle ball yet. Whatever up

(02:07:00):
into our pickleball tournaments and stuff, they just kind of
faded away, didn't they.

Speaker 7 (02:07:03):
Yeah, I think it just kind of disappeared.

Speaker 3 (02:07:06):
Pickle on Pin also has dining. We got the menu
right here, James, Wait a minute, I'm going to go
straight to the bar. I'm sorry. Oh, the espresso Martine?
Is that the most popular cocktail with the ladies right now?
The espresso Martini? Do you hang around any ladies that

(02:07:29):
drink the expresso? March any ladies out there, the espresso
Martini at the top of the cocktail list for you.

Speaker 7 (02:07:34):
I don't think I've even ever been around anybody who
has ever ordered the expresso martini.

Speaker 3 (02:07:39):
The espresso martini, James, that would be in this case,
a little vodka, a little espresso, a cole brew and
cocoa bitters. The ladies love themselves a espresso martetz. What
I'm hearing, I have my finger on the pulse of

(02:08:02):
what the ladies like Cucktail was, as you can tell.
Brandon's at two three nine ten seveny Hello, Brandon, welcome
to the show.

Speaker 6 (02:08:11):
How you doing job?

Speaker 3 (02:08:13):
Good to hear from you, buddy, Go ahead, yep.

Speaker 6 (02:08:16):
Hey, I want to talk a little about two Faced Miles.
He's like one of those college roommates like you, like
you think you know and then later on a live
or like that, maybe you're not the guy I thought
you were.

Speaker 2 (02:08:26):
Yeah, he could.

Speaker 3 (02:08:27):
He could have said about a thousand different things differently
than what he said. I don't care that he left,
but what he said on the lay out that pissed
me off. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (02:08:36):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (02:08:37):
And then I mean, and if you don't think you
got the talent around you, well then that just proves
to me that you don't have the talent to be
the guy.

Speaker 3 (02:08:44):
Well, they carried they carried his ass in that finals.
I mean he he was a reason why they got there,
but they carried his ass in the finals. And for
him to say that going out the door, that's one thing.
As much as I supported him, that's one thing I'll
never forget.

Speaker 6 (02:08:58):
Yeah, I was the same way, supporting just like you.
And to do that, that's just a little flapped in
the base and all right now, yeah, I have fun,
good luck.

Speaker 3 (02:09:05):
Hey, you know what, there are a lot of US
supporters out there that feel the same way because it
was not a big group if you remember correctly.

Speaker 6 (02:09:12):
Yeah, no, no, And he's always doing like a nice
guy and do it thing for the community and on
the way.

Speaker 1 (02:09:18):
Out of like brothers.

Speaker 6 (02:09:18):
But this is really the guy that was here for
ten years? You know, did we not really know the
real guy? So stuff like that Happy Gilmore, what we
expect Adam Sandler's never won an Oscar. You're not going
to get an Emmy, Winny or Oscar performance out of
Happy Gilmore too.

Speaker 1 (02:09:32):
I don't know what we expect.

Speaker 3 (02:09:33):
That out of that exactly. You know what's your favorite
Adam Sandler film of all time.

Speaker 2 (02:09:41):
I'm a water Boy.

Speaker 6 (02:09:42):
I gotta go with the water Boy, and that's one
of the dumbest of all time. And that's why I
love him.

Speaker 3 (02:09:46):
Here's what's weird and I'm always compelled to watch it
because it's all all the time. I love the original
Grown Ups. That's weird?

Speaker 4 (02:09:55):
Is it?

Speaker 9 (02:09:55):
No?

Speaker 1 (02:09:55):
Weird?

Speaker 3 (02:09:56):
I mean there's nothing really, nothing is really outstanding that
and then Kevin James is stumbling and bumbling all the
way through it, and Rob Snyder's Rob Snyder. I mean,
there's nothing really that great.

Speaker 6 (02:10:08):
None of Adam Saylor's movies I've ever.

Speaker 3 (02:10:10):
Been wait really and hey Chris, Yeah, Chris Rock is
coming declaude and it this is all kind of weird.
There's Yeah, it just feels comfortable in watching Growing Ups.

Speaker 6 (02:10:20):
For me, I don't know what and and I haven't
watched Happy Gilmore too, but I probably will and I
probably know what to expect.

Speaker 1 (02:10:27):
Yes, you probably will too.

Speaker 3 (02:10:29):
Right there, Brandon, thanks for the call.

Speaker 6 (02:10:31):
Man, Hey, Hey, hey, John Onemore saying I'm big thank
you to everybody come up to mud Sox Fest this weekend.
We had a great success out there at mistic Waters. Yeah,
great time to be had. So yeah, we raised a
lot of money for a lot of good causes out
there this weekend. So thank everybody to come out.

Speaker 3 (02:10:46):
Awesome to hear Brandon, thank you very much.

Speaker 1 (02:10:49):
Have a going John.

Speaker 3 (02:10:50):
We have Mystic Waters. Our Labor Day Weekend Bender, the
third annual is coming up. Obviously Labor Day weekend. You'd
really have to be a Labor Day weekend Bender fort
not to be a part of a Labor Day weekend. Yes,
And on the ninth, the JMV Takeover is going to
be live in the tap room at the Indiana State Fair. James,

(02:11:13):
great job. Great to have you back. Shout out to
Lance mccabster, to Stephen Holder podcast one oh seven fivethfan
dot com. Can you guys share these moments with me
again tomorrow beginning at three? That would be exceptional. Ladies,
bring your espresso Martiniz. We'll reconvene at three on a Tuesday,
ninety three to five and one oh seven five to fan.

(02:11:33):
Have a great night.

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