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December 9, 2025 • 131 mins

00:00 – 25:42 – The Colts are bringing back Philip Rivers as the season enters panic mode. What can they expect from the 44-year-old quarterback?  

25:43 – 39:33 – JMV takes calls from listeners of the show who want to chime in on the Colts bringing back Philip Rivers.  

39:34 – 44:21 – JMV wraps up the first hour! 

44:22 – 1:05:43 – Former IU linebacker Matt Surface joins the show to discuss IU winning the Big Ten Championship, and having the top seed in the College Football Playoffs! Matt and JMV discuss IU QB Fernando Mendoza, and how important he is to the program, as well as coaching job by Curt Cignetti.  

1:05:44 – 1:24:56 – JMV takes some calls from listeners of the show about the Philip Rivers signing, the Indiana Hoosiers and more! Greg Rakestraw from the ISC Sports Network and the Colts Fifth Quarter Huddle joins to discuss Philip Rivers, and what it means for the franchise. They also briefly talk IU football.  

1:24:57 – 1:26:56 – JMV wraps up the 2nd hour of the show!  

1:26:57 – 1:52:09 – Former Colts tight end Charles Arbuckle, now with the Colts Radio Network, joins the show! What does Charles expect to see from Rivers when he does start. How did rookie Riley Leonard do in his first NFL action? What did Charles think of the Indiana Hoosiers playoff chances? 

1:52:10 – 2:05:00 – JMV takes more calls from listeners about the Colts and Philip Rivers. 

2:05:01 – 2:11:49 – JMV wraps up the show with more phone calls! 

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Speaker 1 (00:07):
In that time, Rivers on play action hashtime in the pocket,
throats about field.

Speaker 2 (00:14):
The pass is caught.

Speaker 3 (00:14):
Michael Pittman twenty He's in the fifteen come back ten
fob touchdown Mike Pittman from forty five yards out run
after the catch for the rookie out of USC his
first career touchdown. Rivers throws right side wide open, and
that's john Than Taylor twenty fifteen to ten, racing.

Speaker 2 (00:32):
For the in zone.

Speaker 3 (00:33):
He did touchdown?

Speaker 4 (00:35):
A ya in D?

Speaker 3 (00:36):
Why Jonathan Taylor a thirty nine yard catch comp Peter
play action? Rivers drops the throw, Slide's gonna heave it
way downfield for t Why at the five and he
walks into the intone touchdown on in in D?

Speaker 2 (00:49):
Why touch t Why.

Speaker 3 (00:51):
My forty one yard bomb from Philip Rivers?

Speaker 1 (00:54):
Rivers packs to throw on first down, dancing the pocket,
tucking way downfield for Jack Coyle.

Speaker 3 (01:00):
He's got it touchdown check Coyle touchdown?

Speaker 5 (01:04):
Why and why gosh?

Speaker 6 (01:07):
Are you telling me that you put.

Speaker 2 (01:08):
The time machine?

Speaker 7 (01:10):
I Glorian?

Speaker 3 (01:11):
The way I see it, You're gonna be able to
time machine into a car. Why not go with some
style the ride with JMV in ninety three five and
one oh seven five the fans. You know what, while
we're at it, where's t Y today?

Speaker 6 (01:23):
T Y around?

Speaker 3 (01:24):
T Y got a month maybe to throw at the
Colt snow. Seriously, Philip Rivers, as was talked about last night,
I'm on my way home and everybody's talking about it.
Everybody's bringing it up, and it comes to fruition. And
I can say this, there is zero way that at

(01:47):
forty four years of age, you decide to come out
of retirement after five years and then go back and
start playing. When you're not playing, You're not gonna stand
on the sideline and hold a clipboard. You're not there
to teach, You're there to play, and of course you're

(02:10):
there to win games. By the way to win games,
there's gonna be I know that. Everybody kind of used this,
and Jake just brought it up as well, and you
guys are all right, it is desperate. It reeks of desperation.
Why because it is? And you also factor in the
whole injury situation with Riley Leonard well, I think he

(02:31):
could have gutted it out. Yeah, when's the last time
you said that? And the Colts head a quarterback to
gut it out and actually lasted. So there's gonna be
some expectations. I just don't happen to think this is
something that is built upon, well, we've got to make
the postseason or we're all gone. I think this is

(02:53):
more about we're still right in it. Even if everything
and I mean everything, even Monday night with the Chargers
that's working against them right now, Nick Siriani still continues
to help screw the Colts. Well done, man, At the

(03:15):
very least you can maybe get a little bit of help.
But no, there's going to be expectation on this too.
You're just not sliding out of retirement for s's and
g's on this bad boy right here. I know, on
the surface it's easy to make fun of because I'm

(03:37):
right there with you. I know on the surface it's laughable.
I know on the surface it's embarrassing. But once we
get past all those emotions, which are absolutely legit, let's
talk about this one for a moment. I don't know
about you, but the anticipation of seeing how this is

(03:59):
going to look on Sunday in Seattle, I've got I'm
not gonna lie and I never do to you I've
got a sports semi working right here. Seriously, in the
world of the term sports arousal, that is mine and
all mine. You know Jake's trademarking phrases. I need to

(04:21):
trademark that one one of these days. Yeah, that's I am.
I'm more excited about that on Sunday than I was
going in in anticipation of a ding up Riley Leonard
and what might be Brett Rippon. I don't have any
visions of greatness here. I don't think all of a
sudden everything's going to fall into place and here we
go the greatness that's gonna be a great team and

(04:43):
stirring the echoes of the last time the Colts made
the postseason, Philip Rivers was the quarterback, none of that.
But I just think for this weekend, it's more excited.
I hope that this offensive line can help him stay
on the field for five seconds. And again, yes, maybe
the highest level of interest I have is how all

(05:04):
this might work, how it all might work. I think
I know how it's gonna look. Same offense we got
used to Philip Rivers for a year here getting the
ball out quickly, struggling five years ago to get it

(05:28):
down on the field. Now, you throw it downfield pass
and Ali Pearce is probably gonna have to like run
around in circles three or four times and wait on it.
But I am more interested sitting here than I was

(05:48):
talking at you at this same time yesterday. And I
don't have visions of greatness. I am more interested now
than I was yesterday in knowing that you have a
team that is circling the drain. Clearly this gives me

(06:11):
any Listen. I'm not suggesting you guys aren't going to
watch or listen on Sunday, but it just gives me
more interest in doing so. Can't wait to see what
that looks like. And frankly, I think we all like
Philip Rivers a great deal. And here is what is
so hilariously awesome. Did you know that so many things

(06:36):
are always the blame over the course of the ballarred era,
which may or may not come to a close coming
up at the end of this year. And by the way,
if you ask me right now sitting here, and you
know how I feel, hell, you know how I felt
last year and the year before last, the year before last.
But I think that it's more likely it doesn't that

(06:57):
it does come to one end. That's for a late date. However,
you go all the way back to Philip Rivers in
the one year and making the postseason, and the Colts
felt that he was going to come back for year two.
That was talked about and their hope was that he
would return for year number two and that would help

(07:18):
bridge the gap. And as you well know, the the
bridging of gaps has not worked because he decided to
go ahead and walk off into at that time the
sunset and retire and be done with it. And that
ushered in the Carson Wentz era, which after that ushered

(07:40):
in the Matt Ryan era, which after that or during that,
ushered in the Jeff Saturday era. Seriously, this stuff rights itself,
it really does. And at this point, because you want
a competitive team, you want to playoff team, you want
to enjoy this. I mentioned yes yesterday, there are a

(08:01):
lot better things to do, and you guys absolutely love
it when we're talking about good things about your teams.
I completely understand that the straw that stirs is not
the negativity. May any jackass can be negative, being fair
and being balanced about everything. That's the high wire act.
That takes somebody tough that does to understand the other

(08:24):
side any longer. And you don't even have to be
in love with sports. All you have to do is
notice everything socially, notice everything politically news wise. To be
able to walk the tightrope of understanding everybody and everybody's issues,
that's the toughest thing. Anybody can go out there and
shake their fists and be pissed. Hey, anybody can say

(08:49):
everything's going to be all right, but being fair about
a situation, and in particular when you're in that situation,
that takes a lot more, always has and always will.
It's just something that has gone i think, unrecognized until
right now, until you really easily can see it because

(09:11):
lines for a while now have been drawn up on
either side. But to understand either side, to listen to
either side, that's a skill set. So I'm not going
to sit here and tell you that everything is going
to be an absolute disaster, because I am interested about
how this is going to look. Coming up on Sunday,

(09:34):
I whish I was more of a visionary with the positive,
but alas I am not. But on this particular Tuesday,
coming off of yesterday and we're talking about, you know,
an injury, a PCL injury as it's been reported for
Riley Leonard, and you know Brett Rippon who has in

(09:59):
himself to pass since twenty twenty three. Now, this is
the hell of a story. I appreciate this story. I
don't know if you have hope. I don't know if
it's even cold hope at this point, but I think
you're more hopeful about it. Maybe the hope is disguise

(10:20):
his interest whatever that is certainly going to be there
for a team that still is firmly involved. And it's
funny we'll talk about surface to former Aien linebacker and
make no mistake about it. The greatest coaching job and
frankly the greatest college football story ever told. That's being

(10:42):
cobbled together right now by the Indiana Who's your football program?
It is, simply put, it is. I would fare to
guess if anything positive comes out of this. If it does,
let's just say for example, and don't laugh at me,

(11:03):
I'm just using this as a hypothetical to explain. But
if anything comes out of this positively, and then all
of a sudden, they put themselves in position again to
get into the postseason or in the postseason. This will
be one of the greatest stories ever told. I can't

(11:25):
think really of anything off the top of my head
that might compare. And before you want to go ahead
and jump into other sports and bring that that's not
this position and that's not football. I know, if you
want to bring up, you know, baseball players, or if

(11:50):
you want to bring up players that decided to go
to another sport. You know, if you're bringing up like
a Danny a we're talking about much younger, or Drew
Henson and Danny Ainge are talking about much younger, and
Ange had certainly great results. Drew Henson didn't professionally. But
a guy that is going to turn forty four, that's
been gone for the game for five years, that willingly

(12:14):
walked away from an opportunity to go through a year
number two here and really really set the organization back
because they weren't prepared. You know, that's when they go, Okay,
we gotta have somebody right now, who's the name? Okay,
I'm gonna put my hand in this hat and bring
out a name that's Matt Ryan. Matt Ryan because I

(12:35):
had Matt Ryan on if you remember I had Matt
Ryan on after he signed and he thought he had
five years remaining Matt Ryan, Matt Ryan looked like he
had about five minutes remaining once he got out there.
We can go all the way back to the Manning
injury and Bill Poley was trying to save it at

(12:57):
that time and had at that moment he had given
his word that Carrie Collins, if they could put together
the what couple of million dollars whatever it was to
get him from playing his guitar off of his couch
in Nashville, that they would make the postseason. His belief

(13:17):
was that the coach would make the postseason with Kerry Collins,
and now he would have better luck trying to put
together and get a CMA award for his guitar playing
that he did for playing quarterback that particular year. So,
in terms of hail mary's around here, hail mary's have
not worked. No, it doesn't make them less interesting. And

(13:41):
if you remember, both of those were at the beginnings
of the season and the expectations were season long. This
is just a pinch hitting role. This is like bringing
off the bench old school Dodger. Shout out to baseball
fans out there, This is like calling to the dugout
and bringing Manny Mota out there to pinch it, except

(14:03):
you're gonna have guys trying to bury your ass on
the other team. And Manny Modi didn't have to mess
with that. It wasn't likely that Ray Knight was going
to run down the third baseline in Tatwoll maybe tackle
manny Mota. This is a lot different, but again it
doesn't make it any less interesting. And while the Colts

(14:26):
have been messy, and I quoted No Country for Old
Men a little bit earlier, if you remember the Tommy
Lee Jones character of the sheriff in that town in
that film was asked no, it was a quote, well
this His deputy said, this sure is a mess, isn't it, Sheriff,

(14:47):
And his quote was if it's not, it'll do until
the mess gets here. And the Colts have been a
mess and really these moments are the the ones that
we've been allowed to embrace. Now you might look back
on it, you might look back on the Carry Collins,
the mat Ryan on the Jeff Saturday, and it's all

(15:10):
been high comedy. It has been that. And we'll see
how this works out coming up on Sunday. I cannot
believe we're in it. But again, truthfully speaking, it is
much more entertaining for me going into this Sunday than

(15:30):
it would have been otherwise. I cannot wait to see
what this dude looks like. And we all had our
faces buried in our hands anyway, and not like we
thought anything great was gonna happen. We're writing everybody off.
Everybody was fired. You were asking me what they were

(15:51):
gonna do next year. It's funny. It's hard to figure
out what they're gonna do next year. You got Chris
Ballad one year remaining. You get rid of everybody. You
get rid of everybody. And I know that especially those
that want their first time gig, would be chomping at
the bit to take any gig. But do you want
your first time gig to be this one? Well, the

(16:12):
quarterback you like is not going to be available for
basically the entirety of the year. But you do have
Riley Leonard and a guy with a fractured orbital bone
that's trying to come back from that, that can't stay
out of his own way and then is not healthy
and can't stay on the field. He's got one year
remaining two, and then, by the way, you have a
parade of free agent quarterbacks that is not any better

(16:34):
than what the Colts just chose from. By the way,
look at that free agency list next year of quarterbacks,
and I would, honestly, I would much rather be talking
about Philip Rivers right now than I would any of
those dudes. Somebody brought up Taylor Honeke to me yesterday,
only if he was playing against the Colts defense, because really,
that's the only time he's been any good. If you're

(16:56):
a member in Lucas Oil stadion, I don't think this
thing is genius, and I'm not gonna call it genius
until it is. I don't think it's a disaster, and
I think you're right. There are a lot of things
it might be. But it is also incredibly entertaining given
the circumstances. So why not be entertained, hopefully for a while,

(17:24):
because again, I'll tell you, there is zero way this
guy is gonna come up here and not try to
be ready to go on Sunday. Right. I know it
sounds nuts, But before you say it sounds nuts, it
sounds crazy. Look at all the things that have sounded
nuts and crazy that we have lived through now we
have gone through now, and I guess we just pay

(17:46):
the price for being smooth and steady for so many years.
Now you kind of gotta knock around like an eighty seven,
you go. It has been difficult, but I think you
guys are probably all incredibly used to it by now.

Speaker 8 (18:11):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (18:11):
And I have seen that Stephen Daily video too, by
the way, and that was something that was that was
something that was kind of laid out earlier this week.
I hope for his availability. Are you fans coming up
in the Rose Bowl? That's for sure, you guys are asking.

(18:32):
I have certainly seen that Matt surface with IU, and
not even so much about that, but of the absolute renaissance?
What would be? This is great? What would be because
we've already seen this cashion with IU football? But where

(18:56):
would Philip Rivers coming out of a five year higha
to lead this team to the postseason rank compared to
the greatest college football story ever told? Am I wrong?
Would this not be among the greatest NFL stories ever told?

(19:20):
I mean, I know you can go back to the
Earl Morale and I don't know if there's anything just
like it, because this stuff all predates me.

Speaker 4 (19:30):
Or the.

Speaker 3 (19:32):
You know, the Billy Kilmers of the world. I mean
all these backup quarterbacks that you know were and back then,
I mean they weren't even staying in shape and they
were sitting around their living room watching soap opera smoking cigarettes.
I'm quite sure Philip Rivers wasn't doing that, So that
is a little bit different. But of backup quarterbacks that

(19:54):
are stepping in and you know, making their mark like
this and may lead their team. And like I said,
this is not even a backup quarterb This is a
dude that hasn't played in five years. That's what makes
it so stinking amazing. Think about that for a moment.

(20:14):
I just I don't know if there is any sort
of comparison to it, y'all. I'd agree wrap up both
because the Achilles thing. Red protect the Achilles, phil protect

(20:36):
the Achilles, because now you're coming into the zone where
everybody's gonna be hard. They had Achilles protect that bad boy.
Some incredible stuff. Jv intros that good shout out to
James should be illegal.

Speaker 2 (20:57):
It's good, no doubt about that.

Speaker 3 (21:05):
Am I wrong? Is there anything like this? Does anybody
have anything like this?

Speaker 5 (21:10):
Right?

Speaker 3 (21:10):
Here in the NFL at this position. We're not talking
about a half ass situation or a half assed position.
This is quarterback, the most important position in sports globally
and soccer DOORCS can give me the goalie and the
midfield whatever you want to do, but no, the most

(21:33):
important position in professional sports. None allowing it nothing like
I cannot wait to see. I don't know if this
is going to be offered nationwide of the country on Sunday,
but it damn straight should be. Yeah, that's awesome. Am

(21:56):
I wrong about that? Is it more embarrassing that they're
we're in this situation that it is awesome? Do you
blame them for being this situation? I will say this.
When you say, well, they weren't adequately protected with a
backup quarterback, don't bring that to me because I've never
wanted to waste time in being adequately protected with a

(22:18):
backup quarterback. Honestly, I just remember us looking for any
sort of competency in a quarterback, and he got that
for two months, much higher level for two months. That's
what I was looking for. The last thing I was
worried about at the supper. Well, you know what I think,
Chris Beller needs to go out and get a backup
quarterback because we all we thought all the quarterback sucked.

(22:43):
My quick break will come back, Rextraw bottom of the hour,
met Surface the former who's you're coming up at the
four o'clock hour? James Rick Straw will actually be on
at four thirty today? Well, that means I have time
for you if you guys are loaded two thirty nine,
ten seventy, So I'll leave this up to you. Then
get some of irresponses a race Straw is going to
drop in here at four point thirty. The hell else

(23:08):
we got here? Oh, Matt Surface, As I mentioned a
little bit earlier, the former who's your linebacker? Talking about
you awaiting their turn in the Rose Bowl coming up
on New Year's Day? How many of you guys are
going to go out there for that? That should be
a great time. Ye Will JMV takeover into New Year's Day?
Great lead in right there? What do you think JAMV

(23:36):
takeover Rose Bowl?

Speaker 7 (23:37):
Are you?

Speaker 3 (23:39):
And I will say this right now, no disrespect to Oklahoma,
and frankly I don't care what Oklahoma thinks in general,
but no disrespect to them in this case. Actually, no,
I take that back Oklahoma, you can piss off because
of Oklahoma City. Just go ahead and piss off. No
true story though, I want to see Alabama because I

(24:00):
I want you to step on the blanks of Bama.
And also you'll understand I think the connection the relation here,
mister Peanut too, mister sec mister peanut, the monocle. That's
what I want to see. That's my hope, that's my

(24:20):
glorious hope. And also to hope that video looks a
lot worse than in actual circumstances too. As you guys
have brought up, Charles Rbuckle is going to join us,
coming up at the five o'clock out. Hey, I'm ready
to go. You guys are ready to rock? Two three
nine ten seventy is that number we're inside the text
line would love to have you in there three one

(24:41):
seven two three nine ten seventy as well. The stream
of the app HD Radio become a triple A member
today because I guess we're gonna have more snow. What
the hell's going on around here? More snow now? They
describe it as shovable, shovable snow. The shovel is it
shoveable shovel? Bull shovel a bowl, shovel of a bowl one.

(25:06):
I can't even pronounce that shoveable. I like shoveable better,
and it kind of sounds like you're just pushing the
snow around, though, Hey, tell Sean Ash to stop creating
nerdy ass words for me to try to say on
the radio. Would you dang? Triple A membership Lounge via
YouTube live. Do not go anywhere, Philip Rivers, he's a

(25:32):
grandfather signed today by the Colts. I want your thoughts.
We'll get there. Ninety three five one oh seven five
the fan, don't go anywhere.

Speaker 2 (25:42):
The ride with JMV.

Speaker 3 (25:44):
But it's a mess.

Speaker 2 (25:45):
Ain't a share.

Speaker 8 (25:49):
If it ain't gonna do till the mask gets here.

Speaker 3 (25:51):
Ninety three five and one oh seven five the fan, No, man,
we gotta come back with it. We gotta start doing
something like Hello Again songs and Welcome back Cotter and
all that stuff.

Speaker 5 (26:02):
Today.

Speaker 3 (26:03):
For Philip Rivers who signed with the Colts, I don't
know about you, and nobody said anything, but I'm gonna
tell you right now. I fully expect that dude to
start coming up on Sunday? Is that too much to say?
Am I going out on a limb here. Should he
not be starting on Sunday? Frankly, now that we have
this news, if he's not good enough to start on Sunday,

(26:25):
then I don't know why you sign him right now anyway,
as a backup plan, just in case Riley Leonard gets in.
Can you imagine that saying that to Philip Rivers. Hey,
by the way, yeah, we're gonna sign you and bring
you in. Yeah, You're gonna be a insurance policy in
case Riley Leonard and Brett Rippon are injured or incapable

(26:48):
of going. I think even you out there that's never
played quarterback in your life will go, yeah, you know
what all to stay home? Would you not?

Speaker 5 (27:01):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (27:02):
Man Dave? Love it or hate it the circumstances, the
Cults are still our team in Indy. They have the
players on the roster needed to be a contender when healthy. Fortunately,
they've had the absolute worst luck with injuries. And by
the way, they've had the worst luck with injuries, but
they've also suffered from a high level of lack of execution. Sorry,

(27:25):
it is true. I wish I could blame everything on luck,
and that's the first thing I would do. And I'm
not just trying to talk about Andrew luck, but all
of our luck. I want to blame everything, all mistakes
on bad fortune. But there has been a lot of
misfortune that has been caused by a lack of execution

(27:49):
in multi organizational areas, Jamie. The question now for Ballad
is how to go forward in the quarterback position to
still continent. And I told you yesterday what I think.
I'm sitting here once again today telling you you're gonna
get Daniel Jones resigned. You're gonna have Anthony Richardson one
more year and Riley Leonard comes back. And that's gonna

(28:11):
be it, unless all of a sudden, on the way here,
Philip rivers like jumps in the cocoon fountain of Youth
like Wilfrid Brimley did, and then shows up here slinging
on it like crazy, right seriously. And I never understood
what the whole Fountain of Youth thing did for Wilford Brimley,

(28:34):
because my man looked like he was ninety five years
old when he was forty five years old. I never
really understood that. But that's what's if he takes a
dip and comes out slinging, And I'm not talking about
that dip. I'm talking about dipping the fountain of youth.
But as of right now, I think the three that

(28:56):
you have most recently seen here I've basically minus Brett
Rippon will be the three U see here next year.
Could be wrong. Two three seventy is that number? Start
with Bill online too?

Speaker 4 (29:11):
Hello?

Speaker 3 (29:12):
Bill? How are you?

Speaker 7 (29:14):
I'm doing well?

Speaker 8 (29:15):
Hey John.

Speaker 7 (29:15):
I've been listening to the station that plays your request
on Saturday.

Speaker 3 (29:19):
Yes, I've called in and I'm hearing.

Speaker 7 (29:22):
Sean Copelan call him, and I'm gonna mention names the
fact that the age was Desperate Housewives? What what? I
was listening to Shane's press conference with Greg and Billy,
and some lady had the stupidity. Now I want you
to think about this. She said, why did he start

(29:43):
Riley Leonard?

Speaker 3 (29:45):
Excuse me, hey, Billy, I don't have the damn this
idea what you're talking about? Help me out here a lot.

Speaker 7 (29:50):
Yes, somebody the lady was asking him why he brought
in Riley Leonard when Daniels went out and he slammed
his helm.

Speaker 3 (30:00):
Down because they didn't want to bring in Tyler One.
I guess because he was what was left to play
quarterback that day. Yeah, yeah, Billy, you know you're you're
all over a brother.

Speaker 7 (30:13):
But somebody's got to give this guy a chance. I
know when they didn't like him when he was here before.

Speaker 3 (30:20):
But who Philip, Yeah, oh, we love Philip Rivers. Hey,
everybody wanted Philip Rivers back for a year two, but
Philip Rivers didn't want to go for a year two.
And you know that, along with you know, other circumstances
like Andrew luck and bad decisions and Peyton Manning's neck.
I mean that led to the quarterback abyss that we
have been living in all these years.

Speaker 7 (30:40):
But here's another ten. People aren't looking at They're not
looking at the fact that Shane knew him out in
San Diego.

Speaker 3 (30:48):
No, you're right, they were right. Familiarity, Billy is a
big damn deal here. You got that, right, Hey, Johnny,
Merry Christmas too. I'll be back on New Year's Eve
and we'll get rid of all that Christmas music for you.

Speaker 7 (30:59):
Okay, No, I'm enjoying it all.

Speaker 3 (31:02):
Well, okay, alright, really.

Speaker 7 (31:04):
Yeah, but I think we ought to give it a chance.

Speaker 3 (31:09):
You got it, Billie, Thank you very much for the call.

Speaker 7 (31:12):
God bless you, brother.

Speaker 3 (31:13):
I'm back at you, Bill. Yeah, I mean you could
tell the woman that was outspoken. You're gonna put in
Tyler one under center and don't give Shane any ideas
he probably would have your story right there, Aaron Line one,
join this program. Hello Erin, Hey, how you doing?

Speaker 8 (31:31):
JMV. I've called you a few times, and I normally
don't call unless I feel like it's kind of an
important to let the public know. Right. So the bottom
line of it is, I'm an old man. I'm forty
eight years old, not as old as you.

Speaker 1 (31:51):
I'm sorry, JMB.

Speaker 3 (31:52):
So I'm gonna be fifty six next week too. But yeah, man,
I've turned back the clock so far right now. I
mean I should have been Inoon instead of Wilford Brimley,
and then that would make sense.

Speaker 8 (32:04):
But I'm a forty two year old world champion in
this for a grappling in jiu jitsu, and I went
overseas to do that in Russia. So I'm here in Greenwood. Well,
I'm in Greenwood right now, but I live in Flat Rock.
But the bottom line of it is, I see both

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sides of this house.

Speaker 2 (32:25):
Sure, it depends on where.

Speaker 8 (32:27):
Philip has been, what he's what he has been doing
over these last five years. Like he may physically not
be ready, but he's mentally ready, and mentally it can
sometimes overcome physical when it's a short period of time. Now,
long term, yeah, this isn't gonna happen, but short term

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this might be a good fit. And Philip probably is like, hey, man,
I can do what I did for a short period.
I mean we're talking this.

Speaker 3 (33:00):
Guy is yeah, I get it. Yeah, yeah, I mean
we can. We can we can all maybe find find
that rhythm in in short bursts or short moments, is
what you're saying. In whatever your your skill set, feel this, Yeah,
I get you.

Speaker 8 (33:15):
Yeah, And and so like the bottom line of it
is like we just got to wait.

Speaker 1 (33:21):
And uh so.

Speaker 3 (33:22):
You're more interested Aaron, You're more interested in it, aren't you?
Because of that?

Speaker 8 (33:28):
Because well, I mean I understand his uh I kind
of understand where he's going what he's going through. But
at the same time, it's like, yeah, like let's see
what we can do and maybe this is a story
for all time.

Speaker 3 (33:41):
Like you said, so are you hey, are you an
ass whipper with what you do? Could you do that?

Speaker 1 (33:45):
Well?

Speaker 4 (33:46):
Yeah?

Speaker 8 (33:47):
So I well, yes, I am an ass whipper, I
mean multiple time ass whipper. Yeah, so like I mean, uh,
and I'm a you grad so I'm like, I'm I'm
prop from this i U thing going on right now.

Speaker 1 (34:02):
I think it's all money driven, but.

Speaker 3 (34:04):
Well I'm excited about having you on because I normally
was the ass whippee here. I'll always like sometime I'd
like to be the ass whipper, not the ass whippee.

Speaker 8 (34:13):
Well, anytime you want, I'm I'm down here at CGX
and Barsville.

Speaker 3 (34:20):
Yes, that is that where my man Fisk is hanging
out all the time.

Speaker 8 (34:25):
Yeah, just south of one. So we have a jiu
jitsu school down here, and me and another brother in
arms of mine, uh we uh we do the jiu.

Speaker 1 (34:36):
Jitsu class over here.

Speaker 8 (34:37):
And I'm in the Indian International Guard as well, So
I'm gonna get props out to those guys.

Speaker 3 (34:43):
So, hey, is this these cold temperatures. I don't think
anybody arounds been more disappointed than our good friend Brian Fisk,
because now he definitely has to wear a shirt.

Speaker 5 (34:51):
Right.

Speaker 3 (34:52):
Well, yes, and he's disappointed.

Speaker 8 (34:55):
I'm from Philly, so shoveling is a real deal.

Speaker 6 (35:00):
That is, you are one hundred percent accurate shoveling.

Speaker 3 (35:03):
You gott Aaron, stay in touch. Shout out the flat
rock down there too, Mike and Brooklyn before the break
KILLO Mike, what are we thinking about this turn of events?

Speaker 2 (35:12):
Brother?

Speaker 9 (35:13):
Hey, jam V I like that Wolford Bridley. I think
maybe we should try and cross reference that.

Speaker 3 (35:17):
Yeah, I just he was always miscast though. I mean
he was like forty five years old when he looked
like he was ninety five years old.

Speaker 9 (35:24):
So yeah, yeah, yeah, maybe we could just cast him
as the manager in the natural Roy hob Roy. Yeah,
I mean, it's it feels like you slipped into an
alternate universe here somewhere.

Speaker 5 (35:39):
Yeah, I don't know. I would have. I would have.

Speaker 9 (35:41):
I'm surprised, to really surprised that they didn't find Sam
Ellinger off the Broncos practice squad. I mean, that was
that was one that would have just made so much sense.

Speaker 5 (35:49):
So I don't know.

Speaker 9 (35:51):
I mean, it's like, uh, I don't know. There's like
I mean I said yesterday, I answered Gene Krantz.

Speaker 3 (35:58):
Well, yeah, so, you know, in terms of the oldest
quarterbacks in NFL history. Once he we all assume will
take the opening snap in Seattle on Sunday. You know
where Philip Rivers will rank three or two three by
Tom Brady and George Blanda played when he was forty eight.

Speaker 9 (36:21):
Okay, so yeah, I remember man and George.

Speaker 3 (36:23):
Blanda would smoke like a carton of cigarettes and pre game.

Speaker 5 (36:27):
Yeah Man.

Speaker 10 (36:29):
As a kid, I was like, wow, that guy is old.

Speaker 3 (36:32):
Yeah, So here's how it go. Bland forty eight, Brady
forty five, Rivers will be forty four, Is forty four,
Steve de Burgh forty four, Warren Moon forty four, Doug
Fluti forty three, Aaron Rodgers forty two, Earl Morrile forty two,
and Drew Brees forty one, Brett Faarr forty one. There
are your quarterbacks age forty one and up in the

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NFL on history.

Speaker 5 (37:00):
I listen, I guess, I guess. Uh.

Speaker 9 (37:02):
You know, it says something that Shane stek And must
have a really good relationship with Philip Rivers to convince.

Speaker 10 (37:08):
Him to come out of retirement.

Speaker 9 (37:10):
I mean, you know, this is definitely I think Philip
Rivers is doing him, uh, doing him a solid. What
to expect from it? I mean the reason I love
Riley lennartt so much is he reminds me of Philip Rivers.

Speaker 5 (37:22):
Well.

Speaker 3 (37:23):
The reason I loved him so much because I thought
he was capable of running for his life with sometimes
the offensive line forces you do. So I I don't
know Philip Rivers as much different because Philip Rivers doesn't
have the mobility of a broken stick of Daniel Jones,
which that may be the ultimate problematic circumstance.

Speaker 9 (37:41):
That is absolutely true. That's why Ellen go to me
would have been I'm shocked that they just sign on.

Speaker 3 (37:46):
You know what, though we wouldn't would we wouldn't care
this much about Ellener though we're really interested about how
the hell this thing's gonna work on Sunday, now, aren't we?

Speaker 2 (37:53):
Come on?

Speaker 3 (37:54):
We are. It's more interesting the.

Speaker 5 (37:57):
Fourteen.

Speaker 3 (37:58):
I forget that nobody believes in any longer, and you
could author one of the greatest stories of all time
in the NFL. You could, and you know we are.
That's not what we were talking about yesterday, not that
I anticipate that, but it could be. And at least
with that in mind, it makes it more interesting. Mike,
I got to hit a break. We'll see what happens

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later on this weekend. Mike and Brooklyn right there. Three
one seven, two three, nine, ten seventy. That's the text line,
es AMV. How can it even be possible for Rivers
to play on Sunday? No game, conditioning, playbook knowledge, et cetera.
Love to hear your thoughts. You know what, I'll give
you those thoughts coming up. On the other side, I

(38:39):
think what everybody would lean on with his participation is
what they reference now is arm talent and see where
he is. That's that's why I think the onus is
more on everybody else around him, if indeed that is
the path that we all anticipate they're going to take,
I have less trust in those around I think you

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can probably still put the football where it needs to go,
But is he going to have enough time to do that?
Quick break will come back answer that question. Take more
of your calls in two three nine, ten seventy with
Philip Rivers now in the fold at the age of
forty four, Colts and the Seahawks coming up on Sunday,
That and more and what was a bad Monday Night

(39:21):
for the Colts as if you could use any more
bad news for the Colts? That and more coming up,
and Matt Surfers talks All You Football, the former who's
your top of the hour? On ninety three to five
and one oh seven five The.

Speaker 2 (39:30):
Fan the Ride with JMV. Foky. This is not nom
this is bowling.

Speaker 3 (39:38):
There are rules A ninety three five and one oh
seven five The Fan. Philip Rivers is back with the Colts.
The forty four year old signed a little bit earlier today,
So what was going to be a walk through tomorrow?
Evidently they're going to practice full throughout the week, so

(40:01):
that would lead you to believe that they are going
to work very hard to get the forty four year
old ready to play against one of the best defenses
in the NFL coming up on Sunday. Yeah. Yeah. Honestly, though,

(40:21):
if we wouldn't have circumstances like this, how long would
it have been since we would have fun with this organization? Seriously,
I know you're gonna say, well, what about September and October?
But still, there was a penalty to play. There's always
a penalty. Even with the Pacers, there was a penalty always.

Speaker 7 (40:46):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (40:46):
Without these stories, where would we be keeps us on
our toes? There's our holiday party tomorrow? Do I just
see that accurately from two intill six.

Speaker 6 (40:57):
That is correct.

Speaker 3 (40:57):
I guess we're uninvited. Yep, we will not be there
the holiday party. Holiday greetings from Budweiser. We are on
the road Thursday, Thursday, mouse Trap, Larcenite, bourbon locks, Lunas,
tequila shots, it's on Keystone. Shout out to you guys

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being there, and then we are back. I want to
say we went back to back. Was it Halloween of
last year and then the day after last Thursday? It
was a year ago Thursday and Friday at the Depot
in Greenfield, which that entire area is awesome, but the
depot is top notch. So the mouse Trap Keystone Thursday,

(41:45):
Brent Halverson me a bud Light Blue Friday, so you
guys can watch Philip Rivers play on Monday night against
the Niners the depot in Greenfield. Who's with me at
tremendous shot could today? The Reds did not end up
signing KOs Warber Shock two. Diiggler writes this, So if

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we'd played two lies in a truth back on January
the first, twenty twenty four, which would you have chosen?
You guys?

Speaker 5 (42:17):
Ready?

Speaker 3 (42:18):
So two lies diggla. I'm gonna keep track of this.
Two lies and a truth. Hey, IU will be the
best team of the nation heading into the twenty twenty
five twenty six College Playoff. B Philip Rivers will be
the Colts starting quarterback and week or Week fifteen another

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twenty five to twenty six NFL season or see the
Pacers will lose Game seven of the twenty twenty five
NBA Finals. So January one of twenty twenty four, I
will tell you this, I never thought I you would
be where they are. I would always so IU is

(43:01):
always going to be the outlier for me. Where they
are now in football is unbelievable and unbelievably awesome. So
I would think that Philip Rivers would be pulled out
of retirement or the Pacers would lose Game seven before

(43:22):
I'd ever think that IU would be the number one
ranked team going into the College Football Playoff this year.
Thank you Diggler for that. Speaking of which, Matt Surfer
is going to join us on the other side of
the former AU linebacker is going to be here to
talk about IU and their Rose Bowl matchup with whomever
they get and that game last Saturday, and the win

(43:43):
the Big Ten title over Ohio State. When Schuler spreadability,
it is sweeping the nation actually, and also big time
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(44:05):
spreadability of win Shoolers. Charles Rbuckle a little over an
hour away, Greg Rasdraw thirty minutes away. Matt Surface in
a smidge, the former Hoosier Next nainety three to five,
one oh seven five a fan, the ride with jmv
oh Boy Floyd ninety three five and one oh seven

(44:27):
five the fan, Keep this up, James, Philip Rivers back
with the Colts, forty four years of age. They'll practice
extra hard, more than what we thought they were gonna
practice this week in preparation for one of the NFL's
best defenses coming up on Sunday. I'd expect Philip Rivers
to get time immediately. This is me. Keep this up

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for a second, would you, James, all right, this was
brought to my attention. Would you describe this Colt's move
as enjoyable or goofy. Let me rephrase exciting or goofy
exciting or goofy And speaking of Disneyland in southern California

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and Albert Hammon from the nineteen seventies, here it is
the side of the Rose Bowl is Pasadena and coming
up on January the one to start a new year
because it is a new legacy of IU football in
year number two, number one rank going in to the

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college football playoff, and the former Hoosier has a grin.
I am sure from ear to ear, the former linebacker
and friend of the show, and they any more automative
group pile line. His name is Matt Surface. Hello Matt.

Speaker 10 (45:47):
Hey, jmbues hit the nail on the head. I can't
stop smiling. It's an amazing time to be a Who's
your football fan?

Speaker 5 (45:54):
Now?

Speaker 3 (45:55):
I would think it would be easier for you to
come to grips with the reality of this compared to
a lot of us out there that you know, we
weren't in the locker room like you were with teams
of the past, and you know obviously a part of
the history too. Is it easy for you to say, yeah,
this is reality than us every single time it's brought up. Go, wow,

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this is unbelievable.

Speaker 10 (46:20):
Well, I see how the mental state of a team
can feel like going into every year, John, we felt
like we were going to win. I mean, you know,
and you know, we only had a winning season really
one of the years that I was playing down there.
But you still go in with a real good feeling,

(46:41):
a real good optimism because you know the work you
put in, you know the work your teammates have put in,
and you feel good about it. And it's almost a surprise,
quite frankly, when you lose some games. But then it
gets to be on kind of a role, and you
know it, really that snowball is hard to stop rolling
down the hill, and so yeah, eventually it almost becomes inevitable.

(47:05):
But even I mean, I can't say that I'm not
shocked a little bit by just the way that they
have gone about their business this year, week by week,
and those plays that used to go the other way, yes,
are now going the Hoosiers way.

Speaker 2 (47:24):
Yes.

Speaker 10 (47:25):
And it happened in Iowa Penn State, and certainly then
again in the biggest game that i U's ever played
in football in Lucasoil, the other night.

Speaker 3 (47:36):
You know what. To Matt, the thing that you could
always count on is at some point is the talent
of the physicality of a team like Ohio State to
overpower to swamp you no matter what might be going
right for a portion of a game. And it was
I you that fletched in Ohio State on Saturday night,
that to me was the most notable of the incredible circumstances.

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That is just such a huge change from what we
have known in the past, no.

Speaker 10 (48:07):
Question, And we talked about it a few weeks ago
when we were discussing I think after the Oregon game,
just how strong this defensive front seven is. But I mean,
you got to say the whole unit. But really, I
use always had some skill players here and there. Certainly
even in the NFL we've put some defensive backs and

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a couple of linebackers, but for the most part, it's
been that front seven that's been dare I say, dominated
against team like you know, Michigan, Ohio State would have
been Oregon potentially this year. But this is a different unit.
I mean, this is there, we're the same colors, but
this is a different brand of football. And I mean defensively,

(48:52):
they've just been amazing up front. You know, we hear
a lot about Heismandoza and rightfully so I'm on that train.
But and Omar Cooper and Sarat and him Bey and
Black and all of that and well deserved. But in reality,
the reason they are where they are is they haven't
the two teams score more than fifteen points all year.

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And I mean, it's just been an incredible display defensively,
and you saw it again in Lucasol Stadium, and they
just the way they shut down, or I won't say
shut down completely douse Ohio. They had a few run
plays here and there. They weren't able to lean on
IU though and take advantage of it. And IU made

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them pick up you know, first down after first down
instead of hitting a bunch, you know, a couple of
big plays, and at some point in that drive when
you've got to make them, you know, execute play in
and play out, they have a negative play. All of
a sudden, they're behind schedule, behind the sticks, and you
saw a lot of third downs that Ohio State could

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not convert against this fantastic defense.

Speaker 5 (49:59):
The Hoosiers had.

Speaker 3 (50:00):
Matt Surface to former, who's your defensive players? Kind of
enough to join us on the Andy Moore Automotive Group Hotline.
I'm assuming you're going right to southern California.

Speaker 10 (50:10):
I mean, it's out there, like there's a very strong possibility,
but you know, it just I think all things got
to come into account. But yeah, I mean, I've been
in great discussion with a good friend of mine talking
about heading out there. I mean, it's hard to think
of missing the Hoosiers playing, you know, not just in
the CFP the playoffs, but but being the number one

(50:33):
seed and doing it in the Rose Bowl. That's pretty cool.
I mean, the fact that they get to play that
game in the Rose Bowl, I think it's fitting. So yeah,
I'm very excited about that opportunity.

Speaker 3 (50:43):
As a as a high level quarterback and what is
going to be ultimately a future Heisman Trophy winner in
Fernando Mendoza. What trait does he have either skill set
physically or mentally or just as outgoing nature too of leadership?
What trait stands out to you as far as what
he presents at the highest level for this football team

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and its success.

Speaker 10 (51:07):
I feel like his accuracy, his ability to read and
know where the ball needs to be and then throw
it exactly where it needs to be. I mean that
is I mean, a lot of people can get it
within a good vicinity, but to throw it on point
in the biggest moments of the game, man, that takes
just that takes calm demeanor internally, even though you know

(51:32):
there's emotions and so forth. But to be able to
kind of settle that, lower the heart rate and execute,
I just to me, it's amazing how he is so
accurate in the biggest moments of football games. I feel
just so comfortable having that guy. And I love just
his his you know, humility. I love his the way

(51:57):
everything is about team and winning. And he's done just
an amazing job to throw thirty three touchdowns to only
six interceptions and complete but it's like over seventy percent
of his balls. I mean, it's just incredible. And to me,
I bet you know, his stats in the second half,

(52:18):
I'm sure better than the stats in the first half,
just because of how clutch he's been. Is really the
only way to say it.

Speaker 3 (52:26):
Hey, declare the cobwebs immediately following that first hit by
Caden on the first play and overcome that. I mean,
it's one thing to talked about. It afterwards as he
has done, and rightly so when asked, but you know,
to shake that off in the expeditious fashion. And what
she did that may have been the most incredible maneuver

(52:49):
of the night, because I know all IU fans thought
at that moment that things were in dire circumstances and
his brother was out there for what a play And
then there he comes trot back in and is good
to go, and that he got absolutely drilled by Cayden
on that play too.

Speaker 10 (53:05):
Oh he did. And I mean I can't say enough
about the game Curry played, man.

Speaker 3 (53:10):
I mean, he's a hell of a player.

Speaker 10 (53:12):
I mean he's delievable. I mean I've watched a few
games this year and he's been great, there's no question.
I mean, the guy's got eleven sacks on the year.

Speaker 3 (53:20):
But he's waited his turn over there too. I mean,
it's been a long time coming for him to be
able to show it at that level.

Speaker 10 (53:28):
Absolutely, and and it's great to see, you know, uh,
an IU guy or an IU an Indiana kid to
do well out there wherever they are. I certainly root
for anybody played high school in the state of Indiana,
and Uh he played at a great program and he's
a phenomenal player. But yeah, that shot that he gave
him in Toza was just something that defensive players dream about,

(53:51):
and and you know, left him knocked him out of
the game. You don't want him to get hurt, but
I'm telling you, man, there's bad intentions when deers are
hitting people with the ball or quarterbacks, and you know
you don't want to injure them, but you don't mind
them getting the win knocked out of them for sure.
So for him Mendoza to go off and to come

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back like a play later, I thought was just shows
the toughness, the commitment to the team. I mean a
lot of people would have tried, I think just because
you know, every everybody that's playing at that level, for
the most part, loves it. I mean, they love the game,
they love their teammates. But I mean not a lot
could because that was a devastating shot. And yeah, I

(54:35):
was concerned about the shoulder, but just the way he
took the hit, but thankfully all was okay, and he
showed some toughness and leadership and immediately coming.

Speaker 3 (54:47):
Back out former Who's your Matt Surface on the Andy
Bore Automatic Group podline you could certainly tell us because
you played the game at that level before. But when
we often talk about Kurt Signetti being ahead of the
opposing coach or you know, out in front of what
actually is going on to to more easily change up
and make the right calls, is that what you see

(55:09):
play after play? And it just seems like that very
few coaches have that going for them, and when when
they do, you can certainly tell, and I think with
Signetti that's something you can certainly tell.

Speaker 10 (55:23):
So it's it's one thing to make the kind of
the right call, right, the ones that are down on
paper that everybody knows you probably should make. Now, some
coaches go against the grain and try to you know,
buff the system and play by the gut. And I
appreciate that sometimes, but it feels like you're it does
feel like he's always ahead of the game, but it

(55:45):
doesn't like it's not confined to just the game in
game call. He has these guys ready to play every
stinking week, man, I mean, and and to do that
when when when you got to play uh, I don't know, Maryland,
I mean, or Nebraska or who you know, teams that
you probably should be no disrespect to Nebraska, of course,

(56:08):
But what I'm getting at is he's got him ready
to play, and regardless of what happens in the game,
they're coming out and playing and making the next play.
And he says that like in the pregame or any
of the interviews, next play, next play, And that's been
instilled in his team. It's not just coach speak. He's

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he's driving us there on the on the on the
practice fields in Bloomington. He's driving it home there because
it comes out to put to fruition in the games,
and you can't just show up on Saturday and give
a raw rock speech and hope that's going to work.
He's instilled that from the beginning and that's clear as
anything that he's really really built that into the team.

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And that's a big reason why they are where they are.

Speaker 3 (56:55):
So anybody you'd rather see more Oklahoma or Alabama in
this case.

Speaker 10 (57:02):
Boy, that's a great I've been trying to I've been
going back and forth. I feel like I feel like
I just haven't been sold on Oklahoma the entire year.
And I know that Materier was hurt for a little bit,
but I I feel like they have a really good defense.
But I really don't believe their defense is as good
as Ohio States, and so for that reason, I mean,

(57:24):
I feel like I'd rather probably play Oklahoma. But it's
a coin flip. I think the Hoosias are going to
handle whoever they play, not easily, but I think they're
going to take care of business because of the defense
that they play and the way that they execute offensively.
And that that interception that that Fernando threw on Saturday,
I mean, my goodness, it's not like he just made

(57:45):
a bad decision that threw it into coverage. I mean
it was it was a ball that got tipped up
and caught by the defender. So uh, you know, I
feel like they take care of the ball and uh,
and they don't let you score touchdowns.

Speaker 5 (58:00):
I don't care who we play.

Speaker 3 (58:01):
Will you like me and listen while I have a
great deal of trust and you should with the IU
defense because it's shown. I was really glad that that,
for whatever reason, Ryan Dayan Company decided not to every
single time out throw it to one of those two wide.

Speaker 10 (58:18):
Receivers, particularly Jeremiah Smith.

Speaker 3 (58:22):
Mercy that that dude is talented as hell.

Speaker 10 (58:25):
Man amazing by just and to have the size that
does and to be able to run like you can't.

Speaker 3 (58:33):
I mean, I'd be hard pressed. I'd be hard pressed
not to just like throw it to them every single time,
like either a tat or or Smith.

Speaker 10 (58:41):
He believe me, I know, and that's why I'm with you.

Speaker 3 (58:44):
So what do you he threw it to one of
those times, I go, great, great, great call where to go?

Speaker 4 (58:51):
Right?

Speaker 10 (58:52):
Well, yeah, go ahead and take that first down.

Speaker 3 (58:54):
And well there's that former Pdue guy out there.

Speaker 10 (58:57):
Good keep it away from.

Speaker 3 (59:01):
But now it's interesting, I can't kind of.

Speaker 10 (59:04):
Tip your cat. What about Ponds man? I mean the
way that Ponds played in coverage? I mean, yeah, okay,
I'm not gonna say Smith didn't have a good game,
because he really did, there's no doubt about it. But
but he didn't, you know, he didn't kill the Hoosiers
and he ultimately didn't score any touchdowns. And I credit
there was some really really good coverage on some tough plays.

Speaker 5 (59:24):
Sure that I you made.

Speaker 10 (59:26):
And so yeah, give credit to that secondary and the
pressure that was good on fan to make him uncomfortable.
But yeah, I hope that when we meet them again,
uh in the final game and I believe that's what
it'll be. I hope that we can shut.

Speaker 5 (59:42):
Him down the scene.

Speaker 3 (59:43):
Think about that too. Six sacks the entire season and
I you got him on Saturday night five times, which
is pretty impressible. All Right, we'll check in. We'll check
in when we find out who they're going to play
once again. But you got you gotta let me know
if you find travel plans and lodging out there for
that particular well, you know.

Speaker 10 (01:00:04):
It'll probably be on the discount budget, but hey, we
got to.

Speaker 5 (01:00:07):
Get out there.

Speaker 3 (01:00:09):
Well done, brother, I appreciate you. Hey, congratulations. I know
as a former IYU football player, there's a lot of
gratifying moments you have seen in the last two years,
and this certainly so far as the top of the heat.
Congratulations on that.

Speaker 10 (01:00:23):
It feels great. I remember when I first started talking
with Bob Lovell on shows on Saturday twenty years ago
that I speak a big game and think that we're
going to win and then you know, but I honestly
never dreamed that the Hoosiers will be ranked number.

Speaker 5 (01:00:38):
One the nation.

Speaker 10 (01:00:39):
Feels start good, John, thanks for having the me.

Speaker 3 (01:00:41):
You got it. Thanks Matt. Matt surface on the Andy
Moore Automotive Group pidline, I said, exciting or goofy, embarrassing, ridiculous, exciting,
goofy jam John Fan Brownsburg, I just have to say

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that today I'm feeling a little sad or empathetic. Maybe
the whole thing quarterback accepted to come to the circus
that we could have left that game when he was
good on a good number and how hopefully it goes well.
But now if it fails or have that on his record. Yeah,

(01:01:23):
I don't know if anybody is going to think about that.
To be honest with you, John, I think you have more.
I will say this, If anything at all, if there
is just a sliver of something that works out here,
then I think that is going to be what people
will pay attention to. I think people are expecting it

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not to work out, So I don't think there's going
to be much of an impact if it doesn't, because
that's the expectation. Like the Colts right now, it's like
we're saying, hey, what the hell you might as well?
That I think is going to be how people will
view Philip River after this. Brian's at two three nine
ten seventy. Greg Rakshaw coming up in about ten minutes. Brian,

(01:02:06):
you're up next here. How are you?

Speaker 10 (01:02:09):
I'm doing all right, j MV.

Speaker 5 (01:02:10):
I think this whole thing is a goofy, funny mess.
It is because partially, I mean, if you look at it,
I mean, I love Rivers, but this is like an
old Toby Keith song. I'm not as good as I
once was. But if we really wanted to keep our
names in the conversation because we've.

Speaker 10 (01:02:27):
Fallen off the cliff, they could have went out and
got Kaepernick.

Speaker 5 (01:02:29):
That would have kept people talking.

Speaker 3 (01:02:31):
Yeah, I don't think there's a belief here. They just
didn't do this. I think to bring back somebody that
has taken a snap in the NFL before. I think
that they believe that they can do something with it here.
I do, And granted, Brian, there's not a lot of
options out there, certainly, but I think that I think

(01:02:54):
that there's a little bit of belief right there. I
don't think they would inject with it if they didn't
have any belief in it. That doesn't make it right,
doesn't mean it's going to work. But I don't think
if they thought it wasn't going to work, they would
mess with it the.

Speaker 5 (01:03:07):
Way our line has been Do you really think a
forty four year old guy can get out the way?
I'm take my chances with Kaepernick. I think he could
get out of the way at least. Well.

Speaker 3 (01:03:16):
The offensive line is the thing that concerns me. And
then every time I think about this being goofy, I
think about the Jeff Saturday mid season higher and I say, well, okay.

Speaker 10 (01:03:28):
It worked for one game.

Speaker 3 (01:03:30):
He did work for one game. Didn't It didn't work?
And you know what had had they been able to
hold onto a lead in Minnesota, he'd have held onto
that gig too. We had never seen Stike and and
would Ballad would be gone because there was no way
bald was going to hang around if if Saturday was
going to remain the head coach. So think about those
circumstances too. It's kind of weird, right how I play

(01:03:50):
or a game here or there has been decisive on
where we are presently in this cold stuff. It's weird.
Yeah what else you got, Brian? Thanks you got it?
Thank you? Yeah, seriously, you go all the way back
to one of the more goofier decisions ever with Jeff Saturday.
You win another game and thing about they lost that

(01:04:12):
that Washington Commander's game late I think McLaurin scored late
on Stefan Gilmore, and then they had like a three
plus touchdown advantage in Minnesota and gagged that thing up
and lost. He'd have won one more game, or if
he certainly would have won both those games, I mean, hell,
he still might be the coach. He certainly would have

(01:04:35):
been the coach. And that's when you know Chris Ballard
would not have hung around for that. Weird how stuff
like that happens. Hey, quickly, we shall return on the
other side of case you haven't been around. Philip Rivers
at the age of forty four, is now signed by
the Colts, and I'm going to consider this, and you

(01:04:56):
know my expectations of him getting out there and playing.
There's a re reason why he's decided to do this,
and it's not to hold a clipboard and not to
be a backup, and not to teach the young guys.
So you know why I believe he is here. And
the Colts go from walking it through tomorrow to three

(01:05:16):
consecutive days of full practice, so I think you understand
what they're trying to do here. More information got that
coming up on the other side of former Colts tight end.
Charles Arbuckle from the Radio Network will further explain to
the five o'clock hour stream the app HD Radio Triple
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(01:05:38):
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Ride with JMV.

Speaker 2 (01:05:45):
In the Beat Gooser Here in the beat.

Speaker 3 (01:05:48):
Oozer, ninety three five and one oh seven five The Fan.
The creepiest video of all time? No, I actually as
not Benny Mardona's and into the Night's the creppiest video
of all time.

Speaker 5 (01:06:07):
This is.

Speaker 3 (01:06:08):
Second creepiest. From this up, James, I'm gonna stalk this
blind lady who made the most ridiculous sculpture of my
dome of all time? Is that what happens in the video?

(01:06:29):
Oh yeah, oh no yeah, made a clay sculpture of
Lionel Richie's face and head and was like one of
the worst.

Speaker 2 (01:06:36):
Of all time.

Speaker 3 (01:06:37):
And then he stalks her. Well, he's like watching her
through windows and stuff, and she's blind. That's smoking hot,
but can't see a lick.

Speaker 2 (01:06:45):
That's not good.

Speaker 3 (01:06:46):
Yeah. Now, the Benny Mardona's thing was just she's sixteen
years old. Leave her alone, they said, and he's walking
around her window.

Speaker 2 (01:06:58):
That's problematic.

Speaker 3 (01:07:00):
All right, Away from creepiness for a moment. That re
entry from lonal Ritchie. Thank you, Philip Rivers for providing
a great deal of content for us today. He is
back with the Colts. He retired in the summer, or no,
when did he retire exactly as a member of the Charges.
He retired as a member of the Chargers and comes
out of retirement as a member of the Colts, resetting

(01:07:24):
his hall of fame five years and assuming to be
available to play against one of the best defenses of
the NFL coming up on Sunday in Seattle. Is it
exciting or is it goofy? Greg Rakestraw coming up with
his second Charles our buckle top of the hour IU

(01:07:44):
Penn State later on tonight, that's eight point thirty down
in Bloomington. Penn State's on a three game wins streak.
They haven't played anybody. I you on a two game
losing streak, and they played two teams. One was a
heavy disappointment. And then that game against Louisville on Saturday,
they were out athletic not a word, but I made

(01:08:04):
it up. Myself. I think you understand what I'm talking about,
especially if you're watching it or there. Seven point thirty
your coverage begins ninety three WIBC with Voice of the
Hoosiers Don Fisher as Greg Ready. Oh no, he's not
ball State. Also an action later off the night, seven
o'clock versus South Dakota State for Michael Lewis's squad paces

(01:08:25):
a winter. Last night, Pacers get the Kings one sixteen
to one oh five. Andrew Nemhard had twenty eight points
and twelve assists in that game, better Nigmatherin twenty five points.
I still I find it? How should I put this?
Incredibly squirrely of people, because you get these reports like

(01:08:46):
from Shams today suggesting that the Pacers are now on
the lookout for their next big to replace Miles Turner,
and then everybody starts talking about one to get rid
of Beniic Matherin. Why are you so squarely? Why do
you want to do that? Is there a reason? Do

(01:09:08):
you just not know basketball? Are you just trying to
be a jackass? Why do you want to get rid
of Bennick Matherin? Why don't you like what he does?
Why don't you like what you believe he can be
in growth? Are our phones work there working right? His
phone's not working? Yeah, I'm not sure what's going on? Well, Greg,

(01:09:31):
what the hell? So somebody not today, but at some
point can explain that to me. He's going to make
too much money. You're worried about that. So he's one
of the last guys. I would like to see them
get rid of. Pascal Siakam by the way to twenty

(01:09:53):
three points in that win, and the Paces are off
till what Friday night on the road in Philadelphia Friday
Sunday they go Friday Night, Philadelphia, the Wizards coming up
on Sunday the fourteenth at three o'clock in the afternoon
at Cambridge Fieldhouse. Like Goofy are exciting, Jim and Noblesville

(01:10:19):
writes this, JMV. Rivers is sadly the best option I
can buy that at least right now. JMV feels like
an exciting move. But his Goofy is hiring Jeff Saturday
to be a coach. JMV. Philip Rivers, Goofy, Hey, JMV.
Can we get Robert mathis back at defensive end to

(01:10:40):
do no worse than Quitty pay By the way, you're
probably right about that talk about somebody that was non existent.
Both he and Latu Layatu pay that wasn't any good
on Sunday. Layatu Pai has to be better. Who pays funny?

(01:11:01):
I'm gonna start using that until they separate themselves from
one another layout to pay. JMV. Is Mark Sanchez unavailable? Indeed,
Mark Sanchez is unavailable? It would appear, HEYJAMV, I do
know that Philip Rivers lives on the same street as

(01:11:22):
Riley Leonard's family. They have worked out together and Philip
is a mentor to Riley. They had to play or
they had to play a factor in the signning. Listen,
and I'm sure that a lot of this window dressing
stuff does play a factor. But there is a belief
that the best option is a guy. And what's that
tell you? The best option right now for the Colts

(01:11:44):
is a guy that haven't played in five years, and
that clearly is better than the option of Brett Rippon,
who hasn't thrown a pass since twenty twenty three. Incredible stuff,
is it? Not? Two, three, nine, ten to seventy? Is

(01:12:05):
that number? We'll wait on Greg if not Charles Arbuck
on top of the hour, Bill talks Philip Rivers online three. Hello, Bill, Hey, JAMV.

Speaker 6 (01:12:15):
I got to say that I am all in favor
of the Philip Rivers signing. From this perspective is I
don't think that you're signing him to win you ball games.
You're signing him so that you won't lose games. And
you can't throw a rookie quarterback into this pressure situation.

(01:12:36):
And if you're a veteran of the Colts, you want
you know, you want to try to win this year.

Speaker 3 (01:12:40):
You want to go Yeah, that's it too. The other
part about that, Bill, and you're accurate, they feel that
the supporting cast is good enough to be highly competitive.
They do view it that way. So this is kind
of the situation they're in Bill without Daniel Jones as
as such is they are built to win right now,

(01:13:01):
but with the quarterback situation, and it may be similar
to what you're going to get from Philip Rivers, but
they people want to go ahead and pull the plug
on everything. But I mean, they're in that no man's
land as they have been with the quarterback situation for
a number of years. They're built to win it right now.

(01:13:22):
But incapable of winning it right now, and they're trying
to play their way with a little hope from a
forty four year old man that hasn't played in five
years under center.

Speaker 5 (01:13:31):
You're right, it's going to.

Speaker 6 (01:13:34):
Be interesting, and the success would be how many dominey
turnovers the offense either doesn't or does commit, because that's
what it's all gonna come down to in this final
push is is not.

Speaker 5 (01:13:48):
Making a big mistake.

Speaker 6 (01:13:49):
And everything it's gonna lead to a fifty yard game
win field goal by the other team. And as far
as as far as I you goes, I know who's
gonna end up playing now you out in the Roads Bowl,
but you got to they got to make a decision.
Are you going to pack the box.

Speaker 10 (01:14:04):
And try to stop the.

Speaker 6 (01:14:05):
Run or you're gonna you're gonna drop back and stop
Mendoza because those two backs from how you can really
grind up some yards as well. So I'm feeling very
very good about whomever they play against.

Speaker 5 (01:14:17):
I think I use gonna win.

Speaker 3 (01:14:21):
Yeah, No, I mean it's gonna be Bama or Oklahoma,
no doubt about that. I kind of want to see
just because it's Alabama. I know both sec wise, but
I would think I would rather see Bama in this case,
because that would I think that'd be fun to watch
this IU team beat down Obama squad. But I think
both of those teams are really kind of equal in

(01:14:43):
terms of, you know, what, what you like or what
you really have to be concerned about. With either, I
think they're they're pretty close to the same.

Speaker 5 (01:14:52):
It's gonna be It's gonna be interesting.

Speaker 6 (01:14:53):
I can't wait for twenty six January one.

Speaker 5 (01:14:55):
Let's get it.

Speaker 3 (01:14:56):
You got that, right, pal? Thank you. I'll see you.
Am I going to see you a up Thursday Friday.

Speaker 6 (01:15:02):
I'll see on both days and Thursday, I can't decide
I'm going to have the beef stew or the Great
kender Lune at the Moustrap one of the two.

Speaker 3 (01:15:08):
Hey, by the way, since you're always with me, I
didn't want to give a shout out because I called
him late last week. I know that Mike Manley and
are our great place. Manly's Irish Mutt. They are closing
the doors here at the end of the year, are
they not? At tenth in Shalen? Have you heard this?

Speaker 5 (01:15:27):
That is true?

Speaker 6 (01:15:27):
That is true?

Speaker 7 (01:15:29):
True?

Speaker 3 (01:15:30):
And I want to tip Yeah, I would agree with
you on that because I absolutely loved that place. It
was a destination and not just the place, but the people,
from Mike and the owners and the employees to the
folks that came out to a variety of shows for us.
I will absolutely miss that about as much as I'm

(01:15:52):
going to miss anything. It is too bad that is ending,
but I'm very happy to have been a part of
it for now a number of years because it holds
a very special place with me.

Speaker 6 (01:16:03):
Appreciate it, man, I'm gonna I'm gonna spread that word
and everything when I go up there in about a
half hour.

Speaker 3 (01:16:07):
You got it, Thank you very much. Billy man Manly's
Irish Mutt is closing at the end of the year
and I did reach out to Mike Manly and wanted
to tell him job, well done, great guy, great place,
and it will be missed.

Speaker 5 (01:16:27):
Now.

Speaker 3 (01:16:27):
You guys were asking me a little bit earlier about
the Stephen Daily video. There was rumors that were floating
around that that he was injured I think during a
celebration or something. It's you know, obviously from the defensive
side of the football, very important to I you no
matter what they're doing. But certainly in the Rose Bowl
and I haven't heard anything. Nobody's really said anything concretely,

(01:16:51):
but everybody's looking for video and there looks like that
there's some massive limping And I don't know. I was
kind of waiting on on official word from you at
some point, but what I heard earlier this week wasn't
certainly any good. And he is a huge part. Is
that Greg ready to go on the Andy Moore Automotive

(01:17:13):
Group potline. There he is, Greg Rigstraw. Hello, Greg, we
got to go really quick. How are you brother?

Speaker 1 (01:17:18):
I am sorry to make your way like that, sir, great.

Speaker 3 (01:17:20):
Hey Philip Rivers today, what are you thinking about the signing?

Speaker 1 (01:17:27):
It's kind of an acknowledgement as to what is available
and out there in the quarterback market. With four weeks
left to go in the season, you get to a
certain point where you simply run out of available talent.
Like I got a text and a phone call, you know,
on Sunday about, you know, should Chris Ballad have done
something to address the backup quarterback positions before I knew

(01:17:47):
that Riley Leonard was hurt, you know, after Anthony Richardson
was hurt back in week six and John, there's just
not that many guys available then, or you're gonna trade
for a backup quarterback. You get to week fifteen, the
market is picked bare. So is this going to work?
I don't think so. I don't think it's going to

(01:18:08):
But you know what, it's not like there was somebody
else of the current market they were going to pluck
out and be able to come in and have success.

Speaker 3 (01:18:17):
I will say this, I don't think they're bringing him
in without a thought or a belief that he can
help them win a couple of games here down the stretch.
I mean, I think it's more than just stop gap
in this case, or you know, the lack of anybody
on this market. I think that there is a belief.
I mean it may be ill advised belief, but there's

(01:18:37):
certainly a belief there.

Speaker 5 (01:18:38):
Greg correct.

Speaker 1 (01:18:40):
And you know, when you see highlights for what he
was doing five years ago, you worry about the arm
strength then, and then you have five years of not
training on a regular basis on top of that. Does
he know the offense? Absolutely? I think his mine still sharp. Absolutely,
And maybe you could said there wasn't as much physical

(01:19:00):
gifts that we're going to fall fall off the table.
But proofs of the pudding we'll see on Sunday.

Speaker 3 (01:19:08):
Yeah, no doubt about that. So and clearly, I mean
they've decided to crank up the whole practice week with
trying to get him acclimated in mind. What do you
think the odds are that he starts that game on Sunday?
Are they as high as I think they are?

Speaker 7 (01:19:22):
To you?

Speaker 1 (01:19:22):
I think he's a likely starter on Sunday, me too,
you know. I mean, you've got Brett Ripping that's on
your practice squad, but you don't make this move to
bring him in as the backup or the in case guy.
I think he's the starting quarterback on Sunday.

Speaker 3 (01:19:37):
All right, A couple of quick thoughts regarding AU going
to the Rose Bowl the number one seed in the
college football Playoff. I think we've all described it accurately
how unbelievable it is. But the chances this team can
move forward, even breaking new ground more so than what
we thought against Ohio State on Saturday.

Speaker 1 (01:19:56):
If you can beat Ohio State, you can win the
Big Ten Championship, you can beat anybody else that's out there,
and then you're run the table and win all three games.
But The next barrier to break for Indiana football. Remember,
they have not won a bowl game, a postseason game
since the Copper Bowl in nineteen ninety one. And for
as great as last season was and getting to play

(01:20:18):
in the cowpege Ball Playoff, they weren't that competitives Notre Dame.
So that is the next barrier to trip for this
program is now go win the Rose Bowl and to
be able to play games after that. Again, it still
takes a little bit of brain rewiring to say that,
but go win a bowl game for the first time
in nearly forty years.

Speaker 2 (01:20:36):
Now, that's incredible stuff.

Speaker 5 (01:20:37):
It really is.

Speaker 3 (01:20:38):
What's your week look like?

Speaker 1 (01:20:39):
Greg, Tonight is my off night, and then it is
LCLN tomorrow night. A guy you Indy Greenberry. On Thursday night,
it is Carmel and Noblesville. Friday night, it is a
doubleheader at Southport on Saturday.

Speaker 3 (01:20:53):
Night, and then it's Cults on Southboard on Saturday night.

Speaker 1 (01:20:57):
Right, this is the tip off Classics has been sponsored
by Form Credit.

Speaker 3 (01:21:02):
The means they're going to cut down the nets afterwards.
That's problematic for me on Sunday morning, Greg, but thanks
for jilling me.

Speaker 1 (01:21:08):
They're probably gonna do that after the Marion County Tournament
and the regional and the semi state. I don't think
they're cutting the nets down after the Superstar Events tip
off classics, So you'll be able to yell short, no.

Speaker 2 (01:21:20):
Problem this week.

Speaker 3 (01:21:22):
That's good because I know nobody else around there is
going to cut any nets down eight time soon, so
I feel confident in that. But no, seriously, who's in
that matchup this weekend?

Speaker 1 (01:21:30):
All right? So twelve teams are playing starts at twelve thirty.
We'll have all six games in the ISC Sports Network.
My two games in the last two games on my
NDTV twenty three Carmel and Crown Point at seven, followed
by Fishers and Penn at eight thirty.

Speaker 3 (01:21:45):
Man Fishers, what do you think about Fishers and Mount Vernon?
Because you had a lot of stars there, from a
gardener to an irdle and all the way around. You
had a lot of stars in that particular matchup early season.

Speaker 1 (01:21:58):
Wie correct in the way I would describe it is
that Fishers can still be the best team in the state.
It's just they don't have the margin for error that
they had. And Garrol Wneger was pretty critical of his
team after the game and talking with Kyletn Edder. I
I think that was sending a message more than anything else.
This Fishers team is probably have to win on what
they do defensively. I mean, let's face they got three
of the best players in the state in terms of Gardener,

(01:22:20):
in terms of Zachary, and in terms of mcgru but
they were so offensively beautiful to watch over the course
of the last couple of years. They're still trying to
figure that out a little bit. And frankly, you can
kind of sit on more guys. You couldn't really do that.
There was not a guy you could just dare to
shoot an open jump shot because he'd make it over
the course of the last couple of seasons. So Fishers

(01:22:43):
is still really good. But they're probably going to win
a lot more games in the forties and fifties than
they've had to the last couple of years when they
were putting up seventy eighty. No problem on a given night.

Speaker 3 (01:22:52):
Keep on keeping on, man, I appreciate you dropping in.
We'll see what you guys have good to talk about
on Sunday after the game. I mean it could be
in great interesting or not, but could be.

Speaker 1 (01:23:03):
I think it's gonna be interesting. Whether it's good or bad,
it's a different story, and obviously I hope for the
hope of the former in that equation.

Speaker 2 (01:23:11):
You got it, Thanks, Greg, See you Aboudy.

Speaker 3 (01:23:13):
Greg Rakestraws on the Andy Morrel Automotive Group hotline conversation
about the Colts sonning quarterback Philip Rivers to the practice
squad with assumingly every intention for him to get that
nod under center coming up on Sunday against the NFL's
one of their better defenses, and you're ready for that, Javy.

(01:23:35):
I'm with you regarding Matherin. I just see Matherin in
a deal for Walker Kessler. What are you nerds thinking
about here? Seriously? I thought, if have I not taught
you enough about basketball yet? What the Helldike's Matherin? Walker Gessler?

Speaker 5 (01:23:58):
What?

Speaker 3 (01:24:00):
I don't even know if I can read any more
of that silliness right there, James says, I gotta go. JMV.
Rivers must have been listening to the radio and heard
Toby Keith saying I'm not as good as I once was,
but I'm good once as I ever was. Well done, JMI,

(01:24:21):
I agree with your regarding matherin. Why would anybody want
to trade him away? Especially when you Yeah, I know
this one was like for Walker Kessler. Good, good god,
I'm embarrassed. I thought I've taught you better regarding basketball
than that. What have I done?

Speaker 5 (01:24:38):
All right?

Speaker 3 (01:24:38):
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the fan. This is for my daughter Laney, big time
Beatles fan James, so is my dad. Okay, this makes

(01:25:29):
sense because keep it up for a minute. That's all right,
because Philip Rivers is not sixty four but forty four,
and he is returning against the team, by the way,
one of the better defenses in the NFL in Seattle
on Sunday that has not I don't think they've allowed
to touch down in two weeks. Everybody, So I'm assuming.

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I think we all assume if he goes through three
practices and the physical spects are there, meaning he can
like move around a little bit. Then that dude is
gonna play coming up on Sunday. I think he's gonna
play right here and right now. More on that Charles

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one oh seven five The Fan, The Ride with JMV.

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Waiting ninety three to five and one oh seven five
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in Philly on Friday and then back at home on
Sunday versus Washington. Return of the Mac is Mark Morrison
in nineties one hit wonder because the return of Philip
Rivers at the age of forty four as they fire
up practice for full Wednesday Thursday in Friday, which was

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not on the schedule nor the agenda until now, presumably
to get the forty four year old good to go
to play against one of the better defenses of the NFL,
in fact of Seahawks defense that is as stingy as
they come. And one is to talk about that move
and more. The former Coast tight end and from the

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radio network, Charles Arbuckle is with us. Were you side
swiped at all by the Philip Rivers first interest and
then the signing move that came shortly thereafter earlier today.

Speaker 5 (01:28:17):
You know, I had heard a few rumblings about it,
and then when I saw it, I was like, man,
But then I started going back in the history of
Shane Steichen. I guess, you know, eight years around him
when he was in San Diego, and the real close
affinity that they both have for each other. They love offense.
And you know, once I heard Riley Leonard was hurt,

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you know, it's gonna be tough to get anybody with
that much experience to come in and know what you
want them to do. So, I mean, you were playing
Return of the Mac. I was like, are we gonna go?
You know, what's his walk up music? Now? You know
old Man River, Old Man River keeps rolling alone. I mean,
you know we're gonna go back to back in the
day to find the oldest songs that you can. But

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the thing is, you know, Aaron Rodgers has been able
to do it, although he has not been out as
long as Philip Rivers. And you know, I'm I'm just
interested to see how it's gonna be. I'm wondering if
that's gonna work. And you know, if you can keep
them standing up right and throw the ball for one,
maybe two games, if Riley Leonard is out for any

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extend dependent period of time, it'll be interesting.

Speaker 3 (01:29:26):
All right. So if Riley Leonard is compromising, all meaning
if he can go out there and play, but is
still dinged up. I guess what I'm asking here, Would
you start Philip Rivers regardless on Sunday if he checks
out physically speaking, in these next three days of practice,

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would you start him over a dinged up Riley Leonard
or just in general, over Riley Leonard on Sunday in Seattle?

Speaker 10 (01:29:56):
Yeah, I was.

Speaker 5 (01:29:58):
I was pleasantly surprised what Ley Leonard and how he
was able to play and do that. Philip Rivers is
still going to have his head, He's still going to
have his arm, you know, and he's still gonna be
able to talk trash with the best of them. Now
will his body be able to move? I have no idea,
and that's what I want to be able to see.
And I think the cultures, if they're smart enough and
they do decide to start them, it would be in

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the way that they're going to have a healthy dose
of the run game, which they don't always do, especially
with the team that I think in the first half
their point differential was one hundred and twenty four. Matt
Taylor and I were talking earlier and I saw one
sixty or something like that for the whole game. They're
outscoring people in the first half. One's twenty four point differential.
So this team is like really explosive on offense, but

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they're pounding people on defense. So you got to start fast.
And I don't know if you want us in lumin Phield.
I'm just if you've never been there, JMV. And I've
been there when it was Quest phild whatever. It is
one of the loudest outdoor places. I know Kansas City
gets loud, but that's well man there. Man, they can
get after you. And now that they're winning, it's all

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the makings of you don't want to put a young
guy in that. You put him in the rain. He
tried to do the best that he could. If he's
anywhere hurt, which is what Riley Dunners game is. If
his knee is not able, you almost are better off
rolling out, you know, Philip Rivers, because you know, at
least in his mind you have you give yourself somewhat

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of a chance.

Speaker 3 (01:31:27):
So Charles rbuckles with us. So we know this because
we've heard I think JJ Watt had this a little
bit earlier that Shane Steiking and Philip Rivers talk often.
Philip Rivers high school wise runs the same stuff that
they do in Indie with Shane Steik and they've long
time Breen friends and certainly people that love offensive football.

(01:31:48):
So I guess what I'm asking you is a former player,
how long would he take Let's just say they deem him,
you know, physical enough to make a return and trust
him to go out there and be under center. How
long would it take him to get up to speed
with this offense? And give me some of the adjustments
this team would have to make, because the one thing
that hasn't been there and certainly when Daniel Jones was

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compromised with that fibula injury before the Achilles is the
offensive line hasn't been protecting very well and that hasn't
been working out as of late. And you look at
the mobility of Jones and he's probably like Michael Vick
compared to what Philip Rivers is going to look like
at there, even while injured. So how does that change
the dynamic if we do indeed see Rivers on.

Speaker 5 (01:32:31):
Sunday, Well, Rivers can still get the ball out pretty quick.
That was his mo right, I mean when he was
there before and even when he was younger It wasn't
about his ability to run. I mean, Philip Rivers has
never been that guy. But his ability to understand and
diagnose the defense pre snap and then post snap was
what made him special. And so getting the ball out quicker,

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where teams are going to say, well, this old guy
can't throw it. Does he still have the arm to
get it down the field. I have no idea, and
nobody has seen them in what four or five years,
so we don't know that to be true. But we
do know to be true is his ability to dissect
defenses and tell defense defenders, hey, you're not in the
right place because of the things that he's seen on film.

(01:33:16):
He does have that, and I heard Derwin James even
laugh and say what is going on? But the last
thing he said in that clip was he still has
his arm and he still has his head. So the
one thing I would think with this offense is going
to change is some of the quick hitting things get
the ball out quicker. I'd also say more, more more

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Jonathan Taylor, not just in the run game, but in
the past game, because he's been so effective and if
you need to rest him, please use other people because
you're not gonna get any run threat out of Philip
Rivers none, So it's it's a lot of that. And
then also the tight ends come in the more play
because you're gonna need a guy. You're gonna need guys
that can in twelve per so now keep rushers off

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of him, but then also be threats when they leak
out into the routes, which you know, Tyler Warren has
shown that he can do and has done very well
so far this year.

Speaker 3 (01:34:12):
How do you say Riley Leonard played against the Jags Sunday?

Speaker 5 (01:34:16):
I thought he did pretty well. You know, I'm getting
ready to rewatch it again. I thought to be thrown
into an environment like that, I thought Riley had a
really good camp. I think the last game that we
saw him was when he was playing against Since the
last game I saw was Cincinnati Live. And I even
came away from that because I saw his dad and

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his mom and I was like, I even told him,
I said, he has really improved because jamb I got
to see. The good thing is I get to see
a lot of these guys in college calling games. And
I can remember when Riley Leonard was at Duke. The
one knock on him was that he was a great athlete,
but could not necessarily spend it like they wanted him to,
and he relied too much on his legs. Each time

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I saw him this summer or this fall in camp,
I thought he had really made the progression, and you
could see it when he got to know the Dame.
But he has been so and you can see he's
methodical on what he's been doing and he's been working
with it, and I thought, you know, he gave them
the best chance that they had at that point. It
wasn't the greatest game, but I thought to be thrown
into that kind of environment without any snaps, because you know,

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people will say, well, even though Daniel Jones was hurt,
they were using him with the ones.

Speaker 6 (01:35:28):
No, they weren't.

Speaker 5 (01:35:29):
The only person that was getting snaps was Daniel until
he went down with that Achilles injury. Even with the
hurt leg, you would still see him out there because
you want to make sure he's rapping with the guys
that he's going to be playing with, so to not
be able to be in any live situations. Even though
you go out to walk through you're doing some things,
you might get a you know, twenty percent of the

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snaps ten percent of the snaps depending on you know,
how they break up the playscript. I thought he did
a pretty good job, and then he showed that his
progression has gotten only better and better. And who one
of the guys that he works out with in the
offseason has been Philip Rivers. So it's an interesting thing
to see how this can come. And you know, I

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just hope that the Colts can find some kind of
way to manufacture something because it has been it has
not been good to watch them from what we saw
when they were going seven to one to what's happening now.

Speaker 3 (01:36:20):
Hey, Charles, would you trust the Riley Leonard that you
saw even if he is a bit compromised on Sunday
against Seattle or the unearthing and the rebirthing of Philip
Rivers for the first time in five seasons on Sunday?
Where would you trust lie under center there?

Speaker 5 (01:36:36):
Yeah? For me, because I haven't seen Philip Rivers in
the years. I trust Riley Leonard. And I'd also say
it'd be good for him to have not only Shane
in his ear, but another guy that knows this offense
like the back of his hand. I think that's the
other reason why I think it's a good pickup if
they can allow anybody else to play physically but mentally
take some of the things that he's able to give you.

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Along with Daniel Jones, who will be around after he
has a surgery and is able to start coming back
around the program. I think those are the things you
look at. If Joe Flacco were available, I'm sure they
would have loved to pick them up. But there's no
longer a trade deadline, and Cincinnati as poorly as they played,
especially Joe Burrow who hadn't played well the last few weeks,

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that's not going to happen. So you know, you can
say it's a reach, and I think it is, but
I think it's the best reach that you can take
at this point.

Speaker 3 (01:37:25):
So Charles Arbuckle, he's kind of to join us on
the Andy Morro Atomotive Group potline. I'll get to the
IU and Rose Bowl and number one, which is crazy
stuff to talk about, but you and I had this
conversation about that before. But how do you feel about
this Colts team and what has transpired? Certainly not just
so much with the injuries and they're trying to track

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down a quarterback, but even before Daniel Jones was injured.
We saw I thought Pittsburgh kind of pulled back the
curtain on him a little bit and exposed them. And
let's just face it, since that point in time, they
really you have even that winn in Berlin been circling
the drain. What's happened in all of this or what's
been the focus compared to how smooth the operation was

(01:38:08):
going in the first two months.

Speaker 5 (01:38:10):
I think there are a couple of things. When they
have lost. You can see that the run game hasn't
been able to be as explosive as it was. They've got,
you know, that's one of the things that has to
happen again. But I'll say it, not only look at
the offense. If you're going to play complimentary football, the
defense hasn't played as well. They haven't been able to
get off on off the field on third down and

(01:38:31):
some of those deep throws where we saw these guys
battling and going up and getting the ball and making plays,
we haven't seen that as much. So without a Sauce
Gardner and the moone Shavarius Ward, there's going to have
to be young guys to step up. And also, I
think too in the middle of the field when there's
coverage bus it seems to happen in that middle of

(01:38:51):
the field. They have to show those things up, but
they kind of get home on third down man. And
I think that's what I saw early on, the pressure
that they were putting on the quarterbacks every single week,
even you know, like you look at that game in
Berlin when they really needed to dial it up, they
were able to get home with pressure. That hasn't happened
as much in the last few weeks. And if you

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can't get to guys like you know, like the players
that they've played and who they're getting ready to play,
it makes it a tough game to be, you know,
on the field twelve plays, thirteen plays or explosive players
that you give up. So I think those are the
things you have to see. And they've got to get
something out of the special teams game, especially when when

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you're not manufacturing points on offense, you gotta find ways.
We're seeing the Eagles struggle just the same. The Eagles
started out really hot. Now they can't stay away from
turning over the ball, and their defense has given up
a lot of run yards of last week and then
this week explosive plays over the top, kind of the
same thing that's happened with the Colts. Gotta find ways

(01:39:54):
to shore that up on the defensive side.

Speaker 3 (01:39:57):
Charles R. Buckles kind of have to join us to
former coach tight end and a member of the Culture
Radio Network. He's on the Andy Moore Automotive Group hootline.
All right, so are you what you thought about that
win in the Big Ten title game Saturday against Ohio
stated then moving forward as the one seed of the
College Football Playoff Rose bull bound they get the winner

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of Alabama and Oklahoma. What are your thoughts really with
the entire situation, which is nothing less than mind blowing.

Speaker 5 (01:40:27):
Well, Alabama getting in. You know, the SEC needed the
fifth so they they you know, they didn't have enough before,
so they had to get in an extra one in.
And you know, Notre Dame took their ball and went home.
And Notre Dame was trying to draft with the ACC
even though they're not an ACC member. They thought that
that would grant them not only their independence, with their opportunity.

(01:40:47):
And at the end of the day, when I look
at how you, I mean, I just I go back
to our conversations about Fernando Mendoza. When he got there,
I said then, and I'll say now, I had not
seen a tougher kid that didn't you know, that sounded
very you know, sounded like a choir boy. But when
you punch him in the mouth and you would get
after him. Even when he was at Cal, he seemed

(01:41:09):
to just elevate his game, only missed one or two
plays after he got blasted and came back and made plays.
And I think this IU team is kind of indicative
of their coach. If Cooper goes out, we're going to
see a healthy though. So Charlie Becker, who people are like, well,
who the heck is Charlie Becker. Charlie Becker was a
track guy in high school. Didn't have a lot of looks,

(01:41:31):
but probably you might have been one of his only
teams that really wanted to offer, right. But he is
a guy that's making plays. If I go to the
defensive side, I don't care what you say about their offense,
they're gonna get after you. But their defense, especially the
front seven, is just nasty and that has allowed them
to play like they can. Julian san and Moore. Dante

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Moore had not been sacked. But in those two games,
that defensive front and with the safeties and how they
do different things on the back end, eleven sacks. So
this team knows how to play and I think Kirk
Signetti takes a lot of that away from them by
the things that he says. But if you can say
it and your team can back it up, that's where

(01:42:17):
you're in a good position. And I mean I like
how they run the football. I mean everything they do
is just set up for a good run because you
do everything well. You play well on defense, you play
well on offense, special teams wise, that gives you something.
You don't allow big plays against your special teams. If
you can do that, you have a chance to play.

(01:42:37):
And I think people now have to stop saying, hey,
we're so surprised that I you, I'm not shocked that
they have played as well as they did the other day.
Now can they put it together and make a run
through the college football playoffs?

Speaker 3 (01:42:49):
And Chile's the one thing about their running backs, both
him Bey and Black, it seems like even in situations
where they get stuffed, they move things forward and still
get another yard and a half for two more yards
and oftentimes that keeps them out of long yarded situations.
So I guess you can always say plays like that work,

(01:43:10):
but it looks like they're not working, but they always
fall forward and get extra yards switch as we saw
on that Big Ten title game, you know, when the
margin of victory was as such, those yards were necessary
at times to extend drives.

Speaker 5 (01:43:26):
Mby is averaging five point three yards of carry, right,
that just means every time he touches it, you're second
and five, or if he's on second, and if it's
second and ten, he gets, you know, five. So whatever
you're doing, it's getting you there. Black is at five
point eight yards of carry. So when you have two
guys that can run the ball and like you said,

(01:43:47):
always seem to be falling forward, that's a hard thing
to stop because of the moralizer your defense. And even
Ohio State the other night, as good as they are,
those two guys, they kept they stayed after the run game,
they didn't move away from it. And I think the
other thing is you got a bunch of dudes that
you know, came from JMU with coach Signetti, and they're

(01:44:09):
playing with house money now because all these guys were told, hey,
you're two star, you're a three star. You're not that good.
Now you can't play there. Him Be was at Maryland,
now he's here. You know, Black was at JMU. Those
kind of guys play with a chip on their shoulder,
and when you have to play him, they don't quit.
They don't you know, you just can't say, oh, I'm

(01:44:29):
gonna you know, push you around and you're gonna stop playing. No,
And like I said, Fischer on defense seems to be
the heart and soul. But they got a lot of
dudes over there that just understand, you know how, We're
gonna be physical, We're gonna be tough. That's our DNA.
And even if we get behind our forehead, we're gonna

(01:44:50):
play like we have nothing to lose. And you better
be ready to take this, uh you know this punishment
we're gonna dole out every single play.

Speaker 3 (01:44:57):
Yeah, the the out physically and out toughing is probably
the highest of levels of things I would never think
I would see IU do to a team like Ohio State.
And then you think about how often they got to
saying they sacked him five times when he had been
sacked just six times on the season in fact, and

(01:45:17):
their two toughest matchups Oregon and Ohio State, they were
I think responsible for eleven sacks and those two high
level games, and those two teams only gave up twenty
five sacks the entire year, and IU was responsible for
eleven of them. That's pretty amazing stuff.

Speaker 5 (01:45:37):
And a guy like Mario Landino, who you know, six
four to eighty four out of Pennsylvania, he's looking across
the way in all those first round supposedly guys on
the other side. He's just a sophomore, still a young pup,
but how many times not only did he sack and
be involved, but he was also a pressure in the

(01:45:58):
run game. So I think, you know, when you have
dudes that like. The thing that I like about this
team that I liked even last year more so this
year is at all eleven seem to be playing for
each other. Like the offense doesn't get on the defense.
If they make a mistake, there's probably going to be
some chirping at each other. More so, like, hey, guys, look,

(01:46:19):
if we battle each other like we do, let's not
go out here and lose this thing against these guys
that were playing. And I think that's what you look
at from that standpoint, But I just have to go
back to it. When you come from a school like
James Madison, like Aiden Fisher, when you you know guys
that transfer in and you say, this is the big
time and you've been able to play everybody and bludgeon

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everybody pretty much except for Ohio State, and you know
they struggled against Penn State. But Penn State, we're starting
to see now actually had some talent. It just didn't
show it all the time. But be able to be
more physical than the teams in your conference that everybody
talks about. That gives you a lot of confidence. But
I love what Kirk Signetti said leaving that, Hey, I

(01:47:03):
got to figure out a way to get these guys
to stop smelling themselves, so to speak. And that's going
to be really critical because everybody's going to tell them
how good they are when they walk in that building
and into the unit where they are, They're going to
have coaches tell them, no, you're not that good. How
do we keep that boulder on our shoulder because we're
getting ready to go into another step and we got

(01:47:25):
to really be ready to play and.

Speaker 3 (01:47:27):
Some amazing stuff. By the way, I thought one of
the better players individual performances that went a little bit
unnoticed was Isaiah Jones defensively made some big plays, some
incredibly long runs, and some trackdowns in that game that
were necessary given the moments. And I don't think we
talked too much about it. He's going to join us
on the show later all this week, but I thought

(01:47:48):
he had some big moments and that went over Ohio
State Saturday.

Speaker 5 (01:47:51):
Well, hey, look, man, and I know some of those
guys from those eighty seven eighty eight teams when they
had Bill Mallory, they were some They was some dudes
you want to go in the alley with, right, I mean,
even as they were older. I knew a bunch of
them living in Indy and I can always hear them saying, Hey,
it can be done down at IU, but here are
the things you have to do. And so you can

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kind of see that. You see a bunch of tough
guys that you walk in the alley with and not
have a problem because they're gonna fight with you. They
won't run from you, They're gonna fight with you. And
that's what you got to have when you want to
be good in college football or any level of football,
and especially in the Big Ten where you know, and
I'll just say this, I knew how you could play
with Ohio State when I saw how Michigan played in

(01:48:36):
the first half against them in that game before the
Big Ten Championship. I almost texted you when that game
was happening because Michigan was pushing Ohio State around a
little bit. They just didn't have a guy at the
quarterback position. Yet it was grown up to understand how
to get through that kind to fight through that next
level when you have them down, so you stay on

(01:48:57):
top of them and you just pin them down. You
understood how to come back. They knew how to play
in that game, and they knew how to stay close.
When the fourth quarter got there, they were able to
win that. So I'm interested to see how they battle
this next round.

Speaker 3 (01:49:11):
All right, Charles Arbuckle, the former Colts tight end and
UCLA bruin as well, and the Hoosiers will be playing
against his old stomping grounds kinning up here on January
or one, a part of the Rose Bowl with Bama
and Oklahoma. Charles kind enough to join us on the
Anymore Automotive Group potline. Our expectation is We're watching a
forty four year old dude that's been retired for five

(01:49:33):
years under centers of the Colts coming up in Seattle
on Sunday. So whatever floats our boat. I mean, it
seems like we've seen everything else. Why not the right JMD.

Speaker 5 (01:49:42):
The other thing too, this league is so thickle, right, Yeah.
Sam Donell has played really well. They protect the Sam.
They've done a lot with him. Drew Locke also as
a guy that's on their their you know their roster.
You start getting the Sam early. We have seen him
not be as good. He's had a reclamation similar to
Daniel Jones. I do think they have to find ways

(01:50:04):
to get to him, and when they do, that gives
you a chance to get the ball back some of
the things we saw earlier. If you don't get the
Sam Darnold, you're in for a long day because they
run the football and they try to get up on
top of you. And they got three receivers, two in particular,
Jackson Smith and Jig and Cooper Cupp who are tough
about and Cooper Cupp is still playing like he's a

(01:50:25):
young pub So you better be ready to play this team,
and you better start fast. Because if you don't, it's
going to be a long day.

Speaker 3 (01:50:31):
Well, we're also thinking about this too. Their secondary has
been significantly compromised. We know about Sauce Gardner and share
various ward and concussion protocol for a third time this year.
So all of that leads to not good. But we
shall see, Charles. I appreciate it, man. We'll catch up
again very soon, all right, man, take care. Charles R.

(01:50:52):
Buckles on the Andy Moore Automotive Group pileline. Yeah, we
haven't even talked about the secondary versus the Seahawks offense.
And Sam Darny kind of wonder about ward and even
the longer term future, don't you. Yeah. By the way,
Adam and Whitstown says Charles, don't bring up Landino. He's
our secret. Saw such a stud big time on Saturday Night.

(01:51:18):
Stephen Daily. Stuff is concerning as you move forward, Greg
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Does great analyst work. He joined us last week. Chad's

(01:51:40):
gonna join us coming up on tomorrow's show, and Andrew
Kettalan's got the call he joins us coming up on
Thursday road shows Thursday and Friday. I'll take a break
and come back. We'll close the show with you at
two three nine ten seventy with Philip Rivers at forty
four back with the Colts, Goofy. Were all encompassing your

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thoughts on that and more Coming up next.

Speaker 2 (01:52:09):
The Ride with JMV.

Speaker 3 (01:52:11):
I love JMV. It looks like Rascal Flats guy got
a cool soul patch wow and a buttery smooth one
Yeah Nutty three five and one oh seven five the fan.
Forty four year old Philip Rivers is back with the Colts.

(01:52:33):
I've got time for final thoughts before the top of
the two three nine ten seventy. Expectation you guys for
a start for significant playing time against the Seahawks coming
up on Sunday?

Speaker 2 (01:52:53):
Should they do that?

Speaker 3 (01:52:54):
If Riley Leonard is available? Should Riley Leonard play? Do
you think this is a huge mistake or as many
have suggested so far, is this incredibly goofy for twenty
five coming up Sunday, afternoon in Seattle, the ten and

(01:53:15):
three Seahawks with a stifling defense and the Colts with
more than likely a forty four year old Philip Rivers
at quarterback. Yeah, we haven't even gotten into yet exactly

(01:53:36):
what is going to entail to try to defend the
Seahawks and defensively, especially in the secondary. And oh, by
the way, with a defensive front that put pressure on
nobody nobody. Hey, by the way, we're gonna follow this
week too, DeForest Buckner, he's eligible to return coming up

(01:53:58):
on Sunday. But yeah, this secondary warden concussion protocol, Sauce
Gardner not playing up front, they get no pressure whatsoever.
Leatu pe zero point zero. So listen, is it about
the quarterback? It is the Colts at eight and five

(01:54:21):
and they still in It seems like everything goes against
him now because you saw the Chargers last night in
that Sirianni act along with his quarterback and that Philly team.

Speaker 4 (01:54:29):
On the road.

Speaker 3 (01:54:30):
That was a loss that the Colts needed to see
and the Chargers ended up getting it done. Problematic more
than likely Philip Rivers, Charles Rbuckle, Greg Raikes, draw Matt
surface All. A little bit earlier three one seven, two three, nine,

(01:54:55):
ten seventy. The text line, JAMV I have a huge
expectations for playing the old man. I can't imagine they
would have gone for this had he not been ready. Listen,
I think that that's who they trusted more. If you
see the list, you know exactly what I'm talking about.
You look at the list of available quarterbacks right now.

(01:55:15):
The only thing that might be more frightening would be
the list of free agent quarterbacks. If you're thinking about
that being an avenue for the Colts next year, look
at that list and then tell me what you like
about that. There's nothing to like about that zero, it's
awful two three nine ten seventy. Offering up some dialogue

(01:55:39):
from Kenny right now? Hello Kenny?

Speaker 2 (01:55:41):
How are you now?

Speaker 5 (01:55:43):
We doing?

Speaker 4 (01:55:43):
John?

Speaker 3 (01:55:44):
Jenny? I'm great? Go ahead, bro, all right, bro.

Speaker 4 (01:55:47):
So we gotta look at the facts. You're on rivers
Man number one, he's a Whenever he's available for the
Hall of Fame, he's going in. That's a for sure deal.

Speaker 3 (01:55:56):
Well he's got to turn that clock back five years
because of this. But yeah, yeah, you're right, he's going in.
He's going in.

Speaker 4 (01:56:01):
Yeah, I think you'll be all right. I don't know
if we're going to do anything, but hey, it's worth
the shot. He knows the system, he knows Styken system.
So let's roll it out.

Speaker 7 (01:56:12):
Let's see what happens.

Speaker 5 (01:56:13):
Man.

Speaker 3 (01:56:14):
Well, I mean would you rather see? You would rather
see Rivers first time in five years? Or Riley Leonard
with an injury to the PCL. What is a spraying PCL?
What would you rather see? Or Brett Rippon.

Speaker 4 (01:56:31):
I'll take Rivers.

Speaker 3 (01:56:32):
Yeah, well, in all likelihood, Kenny, that's exactly thank you
for the call. What you're going to get coming up
on Sunday. And by the way, Brett Rippon has not
thrown the pass since twenty twenty three either. It is
some credible stuff. I mean it really is. JMV. Was

(01:56:54):
Burt Jones not available? Classic? Hey JMV. I want by
tie Breakers this weekend to a mass af awesome place. Indeed,
it is shout out to Rob, Robin, Wayne and tie
Breakers on mass Haf. We were there on Friday, great time,
great time, and my friend Kyle Cadet and Bullseye yet

(01:57:17):
another incredible time in that lead up party on Saturday
to the Big Ten title game. I saw a lot
of you there want a great time. Yeah, thank you
all for joining us. JMV. I for one them with

(01:57:37):
you here. Regarded the comments you made about Bennic Matherin,
why in the world would Pacer fans want to see
him trade? I have no idea. Maybe they see something
different than what I do. And what they're seeing is
sure as he'll not accurate. If they want to trade
Benick Matherin, I know everybody gets all happy, and I'm

(01:58:02):
gonna tell you if they if they were to trade
Bennliic Matherin any deal for Walker Kesseler, I'm gonna riot.
Good God, JMV. I think Rivers is going to be
better than Flecko Flacko right now or Flacco on the
ahead of a year ago. Nice stuff, JMV. For me,

(01:58:29):
it's interests masquerading as hope for the Colts, not the
other way around. I feel you, JAMV. The Culture are
absolutely going to lose their final four games and miss
the postseason, and you can book that. JMV. Why not
have Marion County Court sentence marked Sanchez two months of

(01:58:52):
community service. Let him play for the Colts. He's only
thirty nine. You guys are terrible, absolutely terrible jamb Do
you think there's any relevance to bringing in Philip Rivers
as a potential mentor to Riley Leonard. I will say this,

(01:59:16):
there is zero reason, none that I can think of
right now that would make any sense on any level
to sign Philip Rivers after not playing for five years
at the age of forty four, setting back now his
Hall of Fame induction, eligibility, all of that to come

(01:59:41):
be a mentor, mentor the dude over the phone, mentor
the dude on FaceTime mentor the dude anywhere in a
Zoom meeting. You are coming back to play, and you're
coming back to play Sunday. Nothing else makes a damn

(02:00:03):
bit of sense. Why else would you mess with it?
Why would they jack with you? Why would you jack
with them? The only reason anybody's being jacked with is
to see this dude on the field Sunday. Sorry, nothing
else makes any sense. Thank you for that text. Brett's

(02:00:26):
next to two three nine ten seventy Brett, Welcome.

Speaker 2 (02:00:29):
To the show.

Speaker 4 (02:00:30):
What's going on?

Speaker 3 (02:00:31):
Da happening? Brett?

Speaker 11 (02:00:34):
I got a couple of things. Obviously, I know we're
talking about Philip right now. Yes, I I'm just I'm
still kind of a shock. I mean, I don't know
why I shouldn't be. I mean, this has been however long,
but when I saw the Philip Rivers was working out,
I figured it was one of those fake tweets.

Speaker 3 (02:00:51):
But you know, here we are, Yeah, I know it.

Speaker 11 (02:00:54):
That's that's pretty interesting. I don't know, do you do
you believe in like bad omens for you know, like
bad luck or whatever?

Speaker 3 (02:01:01):
Why I believe I think just being a fan of
Indianapolis sports would lead you to believe in omens and
bad luck by now, wouldn't it.

Speaker 11 (02:01:10):
I mean that, And just like I just feel like
this entire Chris Ballard era, I feel like he's just
kind of it's just he's got to go. I just
feel like there's no other option.

Speaker 3 (02:01:19):
Do you think he's the reason why all this crap
happens everywhere else too? I mean, hell, we all suffer
the consequences. Maybe is he the problem?

Speaker 4 (02:01:29):
Well?

Speaker 11 (02:01:29):
Yeah, I guess that's fair. But I mean, in all reality,
for the Colts in particular, it's just been a stroke
like a mother point. I know we haven't talked about
you in a while, but man, how about the Hoosiers.
I just, yeah, I have been going to games since
I was a little kid man. I mean, I'm only
thirsty years old. I remember going with my dad and
my grandfather. For all these years, my cousins everything, I've

(02:01:52):
never seen them win. And I finally I've bit the bullet,
paid a bunch of money for the tickets.

Speaker 6 (02:01:58):
I had to take my.

Speaker 1 (02:01:58):
Dad to the big championship.

Speaker 3 (02:02:02):
Well done.

Speaker 11 (02:02:03):
What a magical moment, I mean unreal. Never will forget that.

Speaker 4 (02:02:07):
And I hope he doesn't.

Speaker 3 (02:02:08):
No, you know what that was? That was so special
for long time I use football fans that have gone
through all of that, and I mean the highest level
of losing. That was incredibly special on Saturday. It was
great to see absolutely, Brett, thank you for the call.
I appreciate that. No, seriously, there has been malfunction of
the operation. Guys. Yeah, I'm not suggesting that bad luck

(02:02:32):
is the reason behind losing, or uh the reason behind mediocrity,
no playoff appearances, lack of success quarterback Crapola. I mean, yes,
has there been bad luck? Yeah? Have there been bad decisions,

(02:02:54):
bad execution of bad decisions? Yes? JMV. Does this feel
like carry Collins? I explained a little bit earlier. You
go all the way back to when Peyton Manning had
the neck and Bill Poleon told the Colts that he
could save the season and they could still make the postseason. Remember,
they were built too, and the thought back then was

(02:03:16):
you add a competent quarterback and you could get things done. Now,
that was the beginning of the season and they got
Carry Collins off his Nashville couch. He put down his
guitar for a minute and came to play and sucked,
and I mean big time sucked, like not ready to
do anything level of suck. And then we all know

(02:03:41):
how that went. But no, it is reminiscent. But no
Bill Polling at the time he sold the late Jim
Mersey on you get this guy and we can still
make the postseason. I'm assuming there's a lot of relatable
to what was said to Carle Orsay Gordon about well

(02:04:03):
this is what we can do. I think it's more.
You don't bring Philip Rivers in just because you're looking
for any company quarterback under center. You bring him in
because you have this belief in him. I mean, hell,
if you're gonna bring anybody in to take snaps, bring
in Taylor Heineke, and then he'll look great against your
defense in practice, because that's the only time he's ever

(02:04:24):
looked great against the Colts defense. I mean, seriously, if
you're gonna bring any bring in anybody, Bring in Desmond Rittory.
I mean he was here back in the summertime, and Kim,
bring in anybody if you just want somebody there to
take snaps. You're bringing in Philip Rivers for a reason, Wendell.
I to close on the other side. Two three nine,

(02:04:47):
ten seventy the number back in studio with Chad Brown
coming up on tomorrow's show as well, and then road
shows Thursday and Friday. I'll explain coming up next. Ninety
three to five to one oh seven five Fan The
Ride with JMV playing him Played that Me and His Money.
Ninety three to five and one oh seven five The

(02:05:08):
Fan on the spreadability of wind Shulers original Shop, Cheddar,
Bacon and Schedd, Jalapeno Pepper, Naemans, Harvest Market, Carmel, our
friend Jimmy works there. Shout out to you, Jimmy and
Philip Rivers, myer locations, Gordon Food Service, spread ability, elite

(02:05:29):
level snack and win Shulers I U eight thirty. Later
on tonight in Bloomington, Penn State, The Opposition seven thirty
covers ninety three w ib C coming up for that.
Don Fisher Voice of the Hoosiahs Joints is coming up
on Friday at Friday. Show is going to be at
the Dupot.

Speaker 2 (02:05:45):
The Depoe.

Speaker 3 (02:05:46):
Come on check ass at the depot at the DuPont.
We're going to be at the Dupot on Friday, at
the Depot, bud Light Blue Friday. So these are probably
some tickets you will want to win for the Niners.
A game I would guess Philip Rivers play Sunday. I

(02:06:10):
guess I would start with things going right would mean
he survives it. They allow him to survive. But the
Depot in Greenfield on Friday, that's a bud Light Blue Friday,
Larcende bourbon locks, Lunozul tequila shots. Me and Brent Holverson.
I have been in more of a tail spin this season,
seriously than the Colts. I don't know what. I don't

(02:06:34):
know what the hell happens. I need the exorcism, No,
not to cirt the X.

Speaker 5 (02:06:41):
Thank you.

Speaker 3 (02:06:44):
Now. Just coming up to the mouse trap. We're on
Keystone across from Myer. So you can go across the
street across Keystone and grab some wind shoolers and then
come over to the mouse trap with us the JMV.
The reason is phill is coming back is to win
the Bowl? What's that mean? Now he's coming back to today?

(02:07:10):
Coming up on said, there's no other reason why you
can get anybody take snaps dm V. So we go
from seven to one to talking about a potential number
one seed to this clown show. I never thought anything
would be more embarrassing than twenty twenty two with Jeff
Saturday in there. But here we are. Think about that too.

(02:07:30):
You win in Minnesota where you're up three touchdowns, or
don't let Terry McLaurin get behind you. If you're a
Stefan Gilmour to give up that touchdown, you went either
one of those games that held. Jeff Saturday still may
be the head coach here, and then Chris balle would
not be here. True story. Justin is next to dump

(02:07:50):
Sorry Justin, hold on for a second. Windell is up
next to two, three, nine, ten seventy. Hello Windell, Hey.

Speaker 6 (02:07:58):
What's happening?

Speaker 10 (02:07:59):
Man?

Speaker 3 (02:07:59):
Go ahead?

Speaker 12 (02:07:59):
Okay, one thing, go I you, I'm excited about them.

Speaker 5 (02:08:04):
I've been a.

Speaker 12 (02:08:05):
Coats fan they moved, I've been you know they I've
been a Colts fan since before they moved here. And
here's my here's my problem with the whole situation. First
of all, we don't want to get mister Rivers killed.
We haven't been keeping anybody out and so he's gonna
have to get rid of the ball real quick. But
my problem is the decision making. As soon as they

(02:08:27):
knew Aar was hurt, they should have got another backup quarterback.

Speaker 5 (02:08:31):
The reason is because.

Speaker 12 (02:08:34):
You know, Jones's had a history of missing games and
if you didn't feel like Riley Leonard was ready to
step into that, you should have took care of that
way back then. When when that happened, because now he
was on I R. You knew he wasn't gonna be
able to play, and that's even gone further than you expected.

Speaker 5 (02:08:52):
You know, he's on four weeks, it's been longer than that.
What is he gonna do with him?

Speaker 12 (02:08:56):
I mean, you know, just there's decision problems here from me,
you know, right in that situation.

Speaker 3 (02:09:01):
Hey, when we go I am curious though, I mean,
I think you're probably stuck with the same type of choices.
Are you not, then then what you were. Let's just say,
for example, if you find out when the whole orbital
fracture happened with Anthony Richardson, you got very very similar
selections to be made here, right, It's not like you
have any new choices. You'd be dealing with the same

(02:09:23):
You could have the same thing right now if you
wanted it, but you just don't want it. You want
to go with somebody you know.

Speaker 5 (02:09:28):
We correct.

Speaker 12 (02:09:29):
I understand them one to go with somebody that they know.
But my thing is, I feel like I know you're
you're you're sort of I'm a lot older than you.
But remember when Ali still felt like he should have
quit before he fought speaks the first time, but they
gave him that second one and everybody says to quit playing.

Speaker 5 (02:09:48):
That's what I feel fulfilled.

Speaker 12 (02:09:50):
I mean, it's been five years, man, I mean that's
a lot.

Speaker 10 (02:09:54):
And you're forty four.

Speaker 12 (02:09:55):
You can't take a three hundred pounds dude, that's running
a four four forty slacking in the back at that age.
I'm sorry, And that's that's what he's getting.

Speaker 5 (02:10:03):
You know.

Speaker 12 (02:10:04):
You think about if it's Seattle and you you those guys,
you are licking your chops. You can't wait for him
to be in there, and that's unfortunate.

Speaker 5 (02:10:12):
I mean, I like I like Philip. I didn't like him.

Speaker 12 (02:10:14):
When he was with uh, you know, San Diego, because
he was going against us, But you know I did
like him that year he was here, and you know
he was decent.

Speaker 5 (02:10:22):
But I think I fear for him.

Speaker 12 (02:10:25):
More than I fear for the Colts. The Colts got
themselves in this situation. I think it's uh, you know, man,
let's not the lay this dude another five years and
plus have broken ribs.

Speaker 3 (02:10:37):
My man's going to be winell. My man's going to
be thank you for the call to My man's going
to be out there coming up on Sunday. And there's
no other reason why you would try to do what
you're doing right now unless that was going to be
the case. Thank you, my brother. I appreciate that. Justin
quickly go ahead.

Speaker 10 (02:10:51):
Yeah, I was thinking, I'm kind of optimistic about it.

Speaker 1 (02:10:57):
What does he see that He's like, you know what.

Speaker 6 (02:10:59):
Even at this I'm not going to get killed.

Speaker 1 (02:11:02):
And the fact that he's only finishing the late part
of the season. At this age, I think he's got
enough to take us.

Speaker 5 (02:11:07):
To us away.

Speaker 3 (02:11:09):
Justin thank you for the call. We got to shut
him optimism James. Before the end of the show, Jim
mccannon sent me the last time I was at the
depot a year ago. This is the fat picture of
me right there. I'll tell you what I can, Ronnie.
I can't get to today, but tomorrow I certainly can.
And all you have to do is call back James.
Thank you very much. Also thanks to Matt Surfers, Greg Raigs, Draw,

(02:11:29):
Charles Arbuckle. The podcast one I'll seven fivefan dot Com
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