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December 18, 2025 • 19 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Week sixteen and our Sydney bourbon Locks and Lunas who
have to give a start. Let's start with the Rams
of the Seahawks. And Seahawks were weird last week, right
because I don't think they looked that good and the
Colts were right there that won the game, and then
obviously the Seahawks took it from them. The Rams as
of right now are the road dogs. They're gonna get

(00:21):
a point and a half. I'm gonna go ahead and
take that point and a half. It could be the
Rams on the road later on this evening, Brown, what
do you got?

Speaker 2 (00:26):
And I think this is gonna be an outstanding game.

Speaker 3 (00:28):
I mean again, we talked about the implications this is
gonna have, but it's gonna be uh.

Speaker 2 (00:34):
I think this is gonna be close. And you mentioned
last week.

Speaker 3 (00:36):
I mean, yeah, they didn't score a touchdown, but sticking.

Speaker 1 (00:39):
Field goals and he was sick.

Speaker 3 (00:41):
He was perfect. Excuse me get that one out. He
was perfect from field goal range.

Speaker 2 (00:46):
There.

Speaker 3 (00:46):
I tell you it's gonna be a great game. I
actually am gonna go against you here. I'm gonna take
the Seattle Seahawks. I think they pulled this one out.
I think it's a lower scoring game. For as high
powered as that Rams offenses, that Seattle defense is still
pretty strong. I'm gonna take the Seahawks lay the one
and a half, twenty four to twenty.

Speaker 1 (01:02):
They win Temmys over there.

Speaker 4 (01:05):
Sam Darnold one and four career against the Rams, got
embarrassed last year, and the playoffs is a viking. I
like the Rams. I think the Rams are the best
team in the NFC. No offense. The Packers not. They've
lost Michael Parkson's mister Hofferson. I like those Rams. Give me,
give me that point and a.

Speaker 1 (01:22):
Half that is that is a brutality right there. To
say the least. You guys want to go with the
Saturday games first? Or how do you want to do this?
You guys tell me abouts around? I mean the way well,
well okay, well let's doing.

Speaker 4 (01:39):
Not have a big order, but the timeline order. I'll
tell you what, how logical?

Speaker 1 (01:44):
All right, den, So we're gonna go the timeline of
the Saturday games here. You want to go to the
Eagles and the Commanders at five o'clock on Fox coming
up on Saturday afternoon. You look at that matchup in
the Greater Washington, DC area, with the commanders of the
Land over the Eagle are. I think the last check
six and a half point favorites better that six and
a half. I'm gonna take the Eagles on the road.

Speaker 3 (02:06):
Yeah, I'm with you there, John, I mean they came back,
they looked good last week. I think the Commander's going
in the wrong direction, of course. I mean they're four
and ten, not going a lot. Usually within this division,
they play each other tight at home. I think Philly's
gonna come out. I think they're gonna sneak by. I
don't think they're gonna win and just blow their doors off,
but they're gonna win. Cover the six and a half.
Twenty seven to twenty. Eagles get the cover.

Speaker 4 (02:26):
Tommy is yeah, Washington, I mean their season is pretty
much over. Jane Daniels, I think has been shut down
for the year. Uh, Terry Mclawren's been battling injuries. Philadelphia
so has a lot to prove. They've been kind of
struggling the last few weeks. But I think they go
in there and they cover that six and a half.

Speaker 1 (02:42):
Give me the Eagles, all right, we got the other
Saturday game eight twenty. Brent Holvis is gonna be excited.
Uh maybe for the last time. It don't just joke it.
Soldier Field to Chicago before they moved to Gary or
Munster Rose O Hobart is that Chicago. I'm trying to

(03:03):
put him in Rosalin right there with the Ponderosa Sun
Club and nudes of popping the Bears and the Packers.
Today twenty coming up on Saturday night. Last check, the
Packers are one point road favorites. I'm gonna go ahead
and bury that and give me Brent your pack despite
the loss of Bikah Parsons.

Speaker 3 (03:23):
I hope you are right, and I am not as
optimistic on this week Jil and I said this last
two weeks ago. I said, hey, Green Bay will win
this game at home. I think they're gonna get beat
in Chicago. Chicago has been playing very good football. Then
we had the We had a lot of losses last week,
I mean especially losing number one Michael Parsons. We talked
earlier what he does outside of getting in and sacking

(03:44):
the quarterback, he causes that quarterback to think they don't
have enough time to get rid of it quicker.

Speaker 2 (03:49):
That's going away.

Speaker 3 (03:50):
So unfortunately, or I'm gonna just say, hey, hopefully I'm
wrong here. I think the Bears they win the game
out right at the cover twenty four twenty over the Packers.

Speaker 4 (04:02):
Man. You know, Green Bay has owned the Chicago Bears
for years, and I still think Jordan Love is a
far better quarterback than Caleb Williams, although Caleb has had
he's done well this year moments. But uh, even minus
Michael Persons, I think Jordan Love and company going to
like the way you guys think, go pat go brand Halverson.

Speaker 2 (04:21):
The Bears are without Romanduza and uh that Burton.

Speaker 4 (04:25):
That is a fact, that is right.

Speaker 2 (04:26):
So hey, there's gonna be a chance out there.

Speaker 1 (04:28):
A lot of stuff going on, There's no doubt about that,
largely Brebbe Lodge lunas at tequila shots. Uh, let's go
to the Patriots and the Ravens New England season so
far alas they are road dogs in Baltimore three point
favorites of the Ravens. You just know something going on

(04:49):
in the AFC North there. Right, It's kind of weird
the way really nobody wants it, but somebody's gonna end
up getting it. So I'm gonna go out and bury
that three and give me the Ravens at home. Brent,
scary about that, but I'm doing it.

Speaker 2 (05:00):
It is.

Speaker 3 (05:01):
I mean, you know, again, New England last week they
got beats and Baltimore they won. They made the Bengals
like just horrible going into Cincinnati twenty four. Nothing looked
like Joe Burrow just didn't even care that what was
going on out there. I think Baltimore, you're starting to
see Lamar. You know, he's got he threw for two.
He's starting to get his legs back, and that's what
he hadn't had the last couple of weeks since he

(05:21):
had been out. Starting to get back. They're a scary
team this time of year, especially in Baltimore. Give me
those Ravens as well. Lay the three thirty to twenty
three victors over the Patriot.

Speaker 4 (05:31):
Tommy es Hey, you know, New England had a twenty
one to nothing lead over Josh Allen and the Bills
last week. Blew it gagged it up, Tommy.

Speaker 1 (05:39):
They did.

Speaker 4 (05:39):
And you know, Baltimore, as you guys said, they're looking
really good. They're getting healthy, they're getting into a rhythm.
They might be a team to watch in the AFC playoffs.
No Patrick Mahomes. You know, no Chiefs, that might be
a team to watch. I'm gonna take those Ravens minus three, all.

Speaker 1 (05:54):
Right, Bank of America Stadium on one o'clock on Fox.
Coming up on Sunday, the seven and seven Buccaneers, the
seven and seven and Panthers. Who wants this right now?
That's a jump ball of what credible swords right here?
But man, still a three point favorite on the road
of the Buccaneers. I'm gonna take that three and give
me the home standards right there with the Panthers.

Speaker 2 (06:15):
Brent, Yeah, you know the Tampa team.

Speaker 3 (06:18):
They look so good in the beginning of the year
and then they have just kind of went upside down
the last couple of weeks.

Speaker 1 (06:23):
Give Carolina.

Speaker 3 (06:24):
Yeah, Carolina though they were hot for a while and
then they they stuck it up, lost at the Saints
in New Orleans last week. I think they're gonna come
back as well. Give me that home dog Carolina plus three.
I think they win the game out right, twenty seven,
twenty four victors over Tampa.

Speaker 4 (06:38):
Tommy, Yeah, again, it's just a trash division, and who
wants to win it? Give me those kiddie Cats plus
three at home because Tampa, like you said, does not
look good.

Speaker 1 (06:48):
In Week sixteen, Largity Burban locks Lunazul to give the shots, Coaches,
Taff Downtown, Tommy es Ben Holvison, chamv thank you for
joining us. The one o'clock Fox starred as the Chargers
at ten and four Cowboys at six seven and one.
Everybody keeps thinking, men, the Cowboys are gonna resurrect. To me,
the Cowboys are at done so right here. I don't
trust the Chargers very much either, between being dinged up

(07:12):
and on the road inefficient. Two and a half point
favorites the Cowboys at home. Give me that two and
a half and give me the La Chargers.

Speaker 2 (07:21):
Brent, Yeah, you know it.

Speaker 3 (07:23):
Last week and Tommy's Vikings beat the Cowboys JJ mccarthur.

Speaker 4 (07:27):
It's all pro against.

Speaker 2 (07:28):
JJ come back.

Speaker 3 (07:29):
They were tired at seventeen and a half and then
the Vikings just overtook it in the second half.

Speaker 2 (07:33):
There, Cowboys, you're right, I mean, they're they're that team.

Speaker 3 (07:36):
They show all these signs that they have all the
power in their receiving corps with Ceedee, Lamb and Pickens.
They're outstanding. Ferguson which he's not been utilized a lot.
Williams looks great back there, but their defense is just
absolutely horrible and they just give up a lot of points.
I think go ahead and join you here, John, Yes,
go join me. Give me the Chargers plus two and
a half by that half point. But I think the

(07:57):
Chargers go ahead and actually win this game out right,
thirty twenty seven Chargers Tommy.

Speaker 4 (08:02):
Yeah, I mean, like you guys just said, the Cowboys
secondary is terrible. Their last in the league against the pass.
Uh JJ McCarthy ate them up last week. Justin Habert
may have a career day. Uh, let me get that
plus two and a half. Give me the Boats, Man.

Speaker 1 (08:18):
Jets and Saints. We really got to do this. Four
and a half point favors of the Saints at home.
Uh the Saints four and ten, Jets three and eleven,
one in five on the road. How about the Saints
are just two and five at home? Held with bit
coin on the son of a gun right here?

Speaker 4 (08:33):
This Pickox, give me a pick them on.

Speaker 1 (08:35):
You really gotta do this. Come on, guys, I'm gonna
bear the four and a half and give me the
Saints at home. I don't know why, but that's what
we're doing.

Speaker 3 (08:42):
The red hot New Orleans Saints two wins in a row.
They're on fire right now. They keep it going when
they come marching in. Tommy, you singing, my friend, I'm joining.
I'm gonna join you.

Speaker 2 (08:50):
Give me the.

Speaker 3 (08:51):
New Orleans Saints twenty four to seventeen over those halfless Jets.

Speaker 4 (08:55):
Tommy, Yeah, the Jets are just they're terrible. Aaron Glenn's
having the poor guys having a tough first year out
there that I think they fired a defensive coordinator this week. Yeah,
Saints look good. I'm gonna take the homeless.

Speaker 1 (09:07):
Seem Steve Welk's firing right there.

Speaker 4 (09:10):
Minus four and a half. Give me those Saints a
bills in the Browns, how about the bills?

Speaker 1 (09:15):
Tell me mention that come from behind on the road
in Foxboro, that is a ten point favorite on the
road against Cleveland, and good lord, Cleveland lay to ten
and give me the bills because you just can't. I
don't think they're going to cover this. I bet they
don't cover it. But I'm gonna take you anyway, Brent,
give me the bills. You're taking the bills. I'm gonna
take the bills. And you know It's all about time

(09:37):
of the year and the position. Now you got my
homes out of the picture. This is Buffalo's time to shine.
Baltimore's kind of lurking around there. We'll see what they
do for them.

Speaker 3 (09:45):
But I think Buffalo's playing right at the right time.
You know, you got the Bears just beat down those
Browns thirty one three. Last week, the Bills coming back,
like Tommy had mentioned, they were down.

Speaker 1 (09:56):
Twenty one points.

Speaker 3 (09:57):
It was, he was twenty four to seven and a
half come back score twenty eight, outscoring twenty eight to
seven in the second half. They're looking good. Now, I'm
gonna take Buffalo, lay the ten Bills twenty seven to sixteen.

Speaker 4 (10:10):
Yeah, it's one of those spreads that you know, you
look at the Roague team is favored by ten, you
kind of move.

Speaker 2 (10:14):
A movie like, I don't want to touch that game.

Speaker 4 (10:17):
But Cleveland's terrible.

Speaker 1 (10:19):
A lot of those here.

Speaker 4 (10:20):
You know, Buffalo looks really good right now again, another
team to watch in the AFC getting hot. I'll lay
that ten, give me the Bills.

Speaker 1 (10:27):
I'm gonna take the Vikings and the Giants at one
o'clock to start off Fox the Giants two twelve, Vikings
six and eight. I do think that JJ McCarthy in
that offense played better recently, So I think just by
that alone, I'm gonna go ahead and take the Vikings
in this game.

Speaker 4 (10:47):
Lay the three.

Speaker 1 (10:48):
Give me the Vikings on the road against the Giants.

Speaker 3 (10:50):
Brett.

Speaker 2 (10:51):
Yeah, there's red hot Vikings.

Speaker 3 (10:52):
Two wins in a row against the Giants, who I
really thought at big end of the year, I thought they
I bet the over five and a half when went
to him, and then as soon as they lost Mileak
Neighbors and Scottaboo. He was having a great start to
his rookie career. After missing the first two games, he
didn't do much and then he turned it on. Those are
big pieces. I think they've got something special. They're gonna

(11:12):
look at here in the upcoming years. But they just
haven't looked good at all. You know, last week losing
the Commanders twenty nine to twenty one at home. I
think this is another one of those kind of games
right here. Give me Tommy's Minnesota Vikings twenty four to
twenty to get the cover and the win in New York.

Speaker 4 (11:28):
Tommy talked to us, Yeah, like you said, JJ's had
he's had a great two outings. I mean, granted it's
been against bad defenses. Giants have another bad defense. They're
not playing for much. I like the Vikings the light
of the scoreboard. They're going to cover that three. Give
me my Minnesota if I can.

Speaker 1 (11:44):
Yeah, largely, Brobi loxlenzult to give the shots a week
number sixteen. Here the Chiefs no Patrick Mahomes three and
a half point favorites on the road against the Titans.
I'm gonna take that three, and hey, look at that man,
there's Joel in the house. I'm on, go ahead, give
me the Titans. Give me the three and a half
of the time.

Speaker 3 (12:00):
So, Brent Man, I thought I was gonna be the
only crazy one taking the lonely Tennessee.

Speaker 1 (12:04):
I think the Chiefs are gonna just fade away and
be done with it right now.

Speaker 2 (12:08):
The two and twelve Titans, I think you're right.

Speaker 3 (12:10):
I mean, I think you know we're gonna we're gonna
see the stash.

Speaker 2 (12:13):
Back out there and see what he can do. But Tennessee,
I mean again, they're they've got a young team, right
and then cam Ward he's still your guy.

Speaker 3 (12:20):
He just hasn't looked like everybody expected him to do
tougher rookie quarterback to be thrown into it where he
has been. I think Tennessee is not only going to
cover this three and a half. I think they're gonna
win out right. I think Kansas City has mailed it
for the year. I'm gonna call it twenty to seventeen.
The Titans win and they get that plus three and
a half. So that's a nice little cushion.

Speaker 4 (12:38):
Tommy, Yep, Kansas City. The Super Bowl hangover is complete
for them. Bad news down over there in Kansas City. Yeah,
I think Tennessee they're gonna they're gonna pull that win in.
Give me the home dog plus three and a half.

Speaker 1 (12:53):
Guys, Falcons Cardinals three and a half point favorites on
their own, Atlanta lay the three. Give me Atlanta, hello, Brent, Yeah.

Speaker 3 (13:00):
This is another one of those games. They just don't,
you know, Atlanta, not really, they're out of it. They're
not going on. I mean, they have looked better. They
they you know, they've won pressively last week. But Arizona,
you know, they got six losses in a row.

Speaker 4 (13:12):
Again.

Speaker 2 (13:12):
I like these home dogs in this spot. I'm gonna go.

Speaker 3 (13:15):
Ahead and take the Arizona Cardinals plus the three. I
think they win the game out right, twenty seven to
twenty four. Give me Arizona, Tommy.

Speaker 4 (13:23):
So this game. I mean, this is my Larsening lock
of the week.

Speaker 1 (13:26):
Locket.

Speaker 4 (13:27):
Give me those Atlanta Falcons minus three in the row
that Kirk Cousin's gonna light it up to score.

Speaker 3 (13:31):
But they've still got a littleffinity there though, with mister Pitt's.

Speaker 1 (13:34):
I'm gonna lock this one up right here. I'm about
the Broncos three point favorites at home against the Jaguars.
I know everybody loves the Whether the Jaguars are playing
and Trevor Lawrence is playing right now, I think the
Broncos are gonna shut that down defensively, lay the three
and lock this up.

Speaker 4 (13:48):
Brent Holiver, say give me the Broncos at home.

Speaker 2 (13:50):
Yeah, I agree with you here too. I like Denver
at home. You're right they both.

Speaker 3 (13:54):
I mean, hell, Broncos won eleven in a row, Jaguars
won five in a row. They look great it is.
It's gonna be seasonably warm out there. I was with
my buddy Ryan Parker in from Colorado earlier today. He
told me it's gonna be sixty degrees out there. Yeah,
I mean it's a beautiful Colorado.

Speaker 1 (14:09):
Weather, kicking ass and taking names.

Speaker 3 (14:10):
But I'm gonna go ahead and take those Broncos twenty
four to twenty. They covered the three, Tommy.

Speaker 4 (14:15):
Yeah, I mean the Donkeys look really good right now.
I mean they're just rolling. Sean Payton's got that team
in sinc. I think this is an easy cover. Give
me the Broncos minus three.

Speaker 3 (14:26):
This was big too, because i mean you're looking at
you want that one and you want everything to.

Speaker 2 (14:30):
Go through Denver right now. The weather changes.

Speaker 3 (14:32):
That's a tough place to play in Mile High with
the altitude.

Speaker 1 (14:35):
It's also tough for their quarterback too, so that's the other. Well, absolutely,
the ideal circumstances are better for both nicks.

Speaker 4 (14:41):
I think absolutely. I trust bonnext morning, I trust Trevor
Lawrence absolutely.

Speaker 2 (14:45):
I'm with you.

Speaker 1 (14:46):
Steelers Lions right here, seven point favorites at Ford Field,
Lions at home, leather seven and give me the line
when the Steelers are still in it and still playing
and we saw them. But I'm gonna go ahead and
let the seven. Give me the Lions.

Speaker 3 (14:57):
B Yeah, Detroit's a different team at home. I mean
they play inside. I mean, granted, they had a shootout
with the Rams last week they got beat forty one
thirty four. I think this is seven is a big
number on this game because I think Steelers can hang.
But in all in all, I'm gonna go ahead and
take those lines as well. Call it thirty to twenty.
Cover the seven.

Speaker 4 (15:16):
Detroit, Tommy, Yeah, Pittsburgh playing a little well, but they're
on a short week and they're going into Detroit. Detroit
is desperately hanging off their playoff hopes. Give me those
kiddies minus seven.

Speaker 1 (15:29):
No, the Texas a fourteen point favorites. This is such
a fat number. I'm going to lay it anyway and
give me the Texas at home versus the Raiders because
they're on a groove right now. The offense is getting
a little bit better, but the defense can be stifling
and against the Raider offense, I trust that lay the fourteen.
Give me the Texas at home. It's a big number.
It worries me, but I'll take Houston. Brent, this is
a big number.

Speaker 3 (15:49):
Hate these big numbers, but the Raiders are looking for
that number one pick. I believe you got three two
to twelve teams out there, so it's really gonna come
down to a battle for that positioning in the when
the NFL draft around first of the year. Here, I'm
gonna go ahead take Houston as well. Twenty seven to ten.
They cover the fourteen.

Speaker 4 (16:05):
Tommy, Yeah, there's no way the Raiders are gonna be
able to score enough points against that Texan defense. They
are real defense and they might be a threat to
in the AFC. And I think Las Vegas might win
the Fernando Mendoza sweepstakes, but they're not gonna win this
weekend in Houston. Give me those Texans two touchdown favorites.

Speaker 1 (16:25):
All right, guys. Bengals and the Dolphins right here, we
know about to change a quarterback to a bench. We
know about the Bengals not really get a lot of
swagger within that program right now. So this is a
coin flip? Is it four and a half point favorites
to be four to half?

Speaker 2 (16:40):
Yeah, the money has moved on him just because of
the quarterback change.

Speaker 1 (16:43):
With U when yours is in the rookie and then
a lack of motivation with the Bengals. Lay the four
and a half. Give me the Bengals I'll take the
favorites on the road. I guess the rookie.

Speaker 3 (16:56):
Yeah, this is one of those games again. Probably wouldn't
touch it with your money, John, but I am gonna.
I'm gonna go ahead and take the Miami Dolphins as
they do have something to play for, and the Bengals
just didn't look like they gave a crap about what.

Speaker 2 (17:09):
Was going on last week.

Speaker 3 (17:11):
Burrows not even happy being there, he didn't want to
play anymore, all this stuff that's going on with him.
I'm gonna go ahead and take those Dolphins and look for
a very close game. I'm gonna give me the home
dog in this situation. Give me the Dolphins plus four
and a half.

Speaker 4 (17:24):
Tonally, you know, I think I've taken every kitty cat
team so far, so I'm not gonna break stride. The
Dolphins are a disaster. Yeah, the Bengals aren't playing for much,
but I think we're gonna walk into Miami and just
and walk away with it. Give me the Bengals minus
four and a half.

Speaker 1 (17:39):
All right, guys, we got the Monday Night and the
forty nine ers that the cult we don't phillip Rivers
is gonna be the quarterback once again at started the
forty four year old out of retirement. They lose last week.
That fifty six yonder by Jason Myers was the difference
after the sixty yonder. Well, we're gonna all be groupie groupies.
We didn't end up that way with Blake the kicker

(18:01):
for the Colts. The Colts right now they are at
home on Monday Night, six point underdogs. I believe that
they cover, but I think the Niners are gonna have
too much and I still question the limitations again down
the field at quarterback, even if Shane Stiken says there
can be a remedy there. I questioned that with the

(18:22):
quarterback that they have only twenty on the board for
the Colts, twenty four to twenty the Niners over the Colts.
They do cover that number, but they do lose on
Monday Night. Brent.

Speaker 3 (18:36):
So you go with the Colts plus the six, I'm
gonna go against you here. I think this is two
teams in the complete opposite directions. Last four games, San
Francisco's four to zero culture or four as we all know,
did surprise.

Speaker 2 (18:50):
They did cover for us. Last week.

Speaker 3 (18:51):
We had them plus thirteen and a half we both
did that one, but I think this has two different tapes.
Right here, I'm gonna take the forty nine. Ers are
gonna come in. Unfortunately, you can hope I'm wrong.

Speaker 1 (19:02):
Rough shot running is what you're talking about right here.

Speaker 2 (19:04):
This is correct. Thirty to twenty means they cover the six,
give you the forty nine.

Speaker 1 (19:08):
Tell me what are you thinking here? Man saved the day.

Speaker 4 (19:10):
Man, I'll tell you what I really like this matchup.
It's at home. It's the first Monday night football game
at Lucas and I can't remember how many years. I
think the crowd's gonna be amped up. They're gonna get
out there and cheer on them Colts.
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