All Episodes

May 24, 2025 • 39 mins

Are you a leader grappling with startup burnout, decision fatigue, or feeling stuck despite your drive? This transformative episode reveals the counter-intuitive secret to leadership clarity and accelerated growth: discomfort.

Join Jason Rigby and Arielle Lechner, an acclaimed executive coach to leaders at Google, GitHub, and Peloton. They shatter the myth of the flawless founder and dive deep into how embracing resistance isn't a barrier, but your most accurate signal for progress and innovation.

🔑 In this essential leadership episode, you will discover:

  • The Power of Discomfort: Learn how to lean into resistance and transform it into your competitive advantage for leader development.
  • "Think Like a Scientist" Mindset: A radical approach to leadership that redefines failure as essential data, driving rapid learning and growth.
  • Beyond Data Overload: How to harmonize your intuition with metrics for truly informed and strategic decision-making.
  • The Lift & Thrust Model: A practical tool for diagnosing and energizing your team culture, fostering psychological safety.
  • High-Leverage Communication: Master the direct, clear, and explicit strategies that separate effective leaders from those struggling with leadership gaps.
  • Overcoming Impostor Syndrome: Practical insights for navigating identity challenges and leading with genuine authenticity.

Whether you're a seasoned startup CEO, an aspiring self-aware leader, or an executive seeking to deepen your emotional intelligence and drive organizational growth, this conversation offers practical tools and a profound leadership mindset shift. It's a masterclass in humble leadership that will reframe your entire leadership journey.

Timestamps for Easy Navigation:

  • – Intro to Arielle Lechner: Disrupting the status quo
  • – What founders really mean by frustration
  • – You can’t think your way to clarity
  • – Using discomfort as your competitive signal
  • – What does “velocity of learning” mean?
  • – Why your intuition is your most undervalued asset
  • – Think like a scientist: Embracing failure as feedback
  • – Lift and Thrust Model: A culture-check diagnostic
  • – High-leverage communication: Clear. Explicit. Direct.
  • – Impostor syndrome and identity gaps in leadership

Notable Quotes:

  • “You can’t think your way to clarity—you experiment your way there.”
  • “Discomfort isn’t a barrier—it’s a signal.”
  • “Leadership is a learning loop; velocity matters more than perfection.”

Connect with Arielle Lechner:

 

Mark as Played

Advertise With Us

Popular Podcasts

On Purpose with Jay Shetty

On Purpose with Jay Shetty

I’m Jay Shetty host of On Purpose the worlds #1 Mental Health podcast and I’m so grateful you found us. I started this podcast 5 years ago to invite you into conversations and workshops that are designed to help make you happier, healthier and more healed. I believe that when you (yes you) feel seen, heard and understood you’re able to deal with relationship struggles, work challenges and life’s ups and downs with more ease and grace. I interview experts, celebrities, thought leaders and athletes so that we can grow our mindset, build better habits and uncover a side of them we’ve never seen before. New episodes every Monday and Friday. Your support means the world to me and I don’t take it for granted — click the follow button and leave a review to help us spread the love with On Purpose. I can’t wait for you to listen to your first or 500th episode!

Dateline NBC

Dateline NBC

Current and classic episodes, featuring compelling true-crime mysteries, powerful documentaries and in-depth investigations. Special Summer Offer: Exclusively on Apple Podcasts, try our Dateline Premium subscription completely free for one month! With Dateline Premium, you get every episode ad-free plus exclusive bonus content.

24/7 News: The Latest

24/7 News: The Latest

The latest news in 4 minutes updated every hour, every day.

Music, radio and podcasts, all free. Listen online or download the iHeart App.

Connect

© 2025 iHeartMedia, Inc.