Episode 747: Daddy is on the Undercarriage

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And Now it's time for the Shining Wizards.

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Hi guys, it's episode 747 of TheShining Wizard and we have a
huge announcement for you this week.
So huge. Is it a tournament?
It is another signing that you don't give a fuck about.
You'll have to tune in to find out, because here we are for

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some wrestling talk. Hey, talk about wrestling.
Rondo, Dr. Dunk. Handsome Kevin.
Hi fellas. Hi, fellas.
We're going to go all Tony Khan on this one.
Hey, guys. Hey.
Everything's going to be great. It's going to be fucking on my

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belt. Oh, I dropped the belt on the
floor and I was setting up. Hold up, wait a minute.
Be right back. Yeah, no, we'll be here.
Got to go horny. Over here if you need us.
Hey, it's going to be great. We're going to make an
announcement. It's going to be amazing.
Everybody, everybody, it's goingto be great.
We're going to Mexico, it's great.
Mexico's great. Saudi Arabia's great.

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We're going to England. England's great, Australia's
great. The GC WS.
Great. The Mecca's great.
Everything's fucking great. Let me grind my teeth because my
teeth are great. You ever see you've seen the the
video of him introducing Jonas before, right where he just

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squeaks? Giannis.
Yeah, the basketball player, theGreek Freak, and he just goes.
Oh my God. I've never seen I watch that
like four or five times a month.Wait, why is he announcing
basketball players? I guess they had Giannis in for
an earlier like years ago for when they were in Minnesota for

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something and he just, it was ridiculous.
Doesn't he play for Milwaukee? Why would he show up?
In or maybe it was Milwaukee. I I don't know enough
basketball. I do know Jersey cow, Jesse Wolf
Wolf. Thank you for leaving that so
early, Jesse. He comes in handy.

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That is amazing. Yeah.
Fellas, how was how was the pastseven days for you guys?
I was great, Tony. I was great.
You know me. I'm great.
You know I. I get the texts.
Yeah, I get the you get this. I send you the stats, Tony, I
send you the stats. You're kind of my inspirato.

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Thanks. Yeah, that's pretty good.
Pretty good. I will say that Sunday I built
my dog like a sensory deprivation kennel.
Why? Because she, she, my dog, can't
do storms, can't do fireworks, and there's some assholes that
live South of us that love lighting off fireworks.
So I fucking went to town, got abunch of fucking sound poop

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proof and bullshit and foam and all that.
So I got a little kennel set up and last night, this morning, I
woke up at 2:00 20 this morning.Tony 220.
Not on purpose. Not on purpose.
I know what you think. You're going for your fucking 35
mile old like sojourn around fucking Minnesota.
So I did end up with with about 10 miles before I went into the

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office. That was the final tally.
But no, but fucking there's somestrong wind because she was
worked up from the fireworks andthe storms over the weekend.
Strong wind came in and she thought the world was fucking
ending. Jumps into the bed, she's
shaking, she's fucking. The whole thing's a mess.
So at 2:20 I'm like what the fuck am I going to do?
Hope to get like 5 minutes of sleep at a time or just get the
fuck out of bed and get to work?What did I Tony you?

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Got to work. I got to.
Fucking work, man. God, what are the time?
What are the time, man? Results are there.
Put them in time. So let me ask you this.
Your neighbors, do they normallyblow off fireworks or are they
celebrating Juneteenth? Who gives a flying fuck what
they're celebrating? God I these assholes.
I hope they blow their fucking Dicks off.
I fucking hate them. You know, every, all of a sudden

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everybody's a fucking amateur pyrotechnician.
You like fireworks? Go to a fucking fireworks shows
you fucking clowns hate. Them.
Yeah, but you know what? Like it is bothersome, but it's
more bothersome where it's like after 10 or 11 or whatever quiet
time is supposed to. Be you know.
I don't say a fucking word until10:00.

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After 10:00, turn this shit down.
It's the same reason I don't mowmy lawn at six AMI wait until
nine o'clock 9:00. That's that's the opening.
It's just fucking being considerate.
Not too many people got fucking children that they're trying to
get to bed. Other people that got dogs.
You got fucking former people, military personnel, PST.
Like there's all types of shit to consider and it's such a

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selfish bullshit thing to go no no no, I want to light this up
and watch it go boom you fuckingdip shit.
I had two neighbors that moved across the street and their
first year they were lighting off fireworks at like 11/11/30
at night and my fucking deaf asswith no hearing aids like 3540%
hearing loss heard it and jumpedit out of bed.

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So you gonna go mad? Fucking loud they were.
Did you kill them? Did you kill them?
Alive, and they're nice now. Now they're nice.
Now did you I? They learn.
Fool me once. If they continue to do it over
the years, then yes, murder is murder is in place.
But you know, they learn after one year, OK, this is a nice

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quiet neighborhood. We're not going to do that.
Did. You walk over and corrected
them. No, I went back to bed.
Oh, man. All right.
I had AI, had a Filipino family that was renting the house next
to me. I called the cops on every
fucking thing. They did everything.
Fucking singing karaoke with thefucking windows open at 2:00 in

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the morning. Yes, hello.
I'd like to register a noise complaint.
Fucking parking in front of the fire hydrant in front of my
house, like, all night long. Yeah, there's a car that's been
blocking the hydrant out here for about four hours now.
Could you? That'd be awesome.
Thank you. Those motherfuckers.
I probably kept my fucking town,like well funded while these
people were living here. No, it's ridiculous because it's

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no, it's no courtesy to anybody else.
It's like you said, HK. It's like, sing your karaoke, do
it till 1111, o'clock shut your windows or shut it down.
They get in the yard. They'd be out in the yard
drinking like there's no lights on.
They're trying to be quiet, but voices carry like I'm like, I
don't need a conversation outside my window at 2:00 in the
morning. Fuck this, but go inside.

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Go inside, fucking as long as you ain't fucking blasting the
radio where like the neighbors can hear it down the block.
Like fucking knock yourselves out but do that shit on the down
low after 11. Just a little bit of fucking
consideration. Just a little bit, you know,
just. My my first year of law school,
I went to a party at a friend ofmine.
His apartment. It was a Thursday night.

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He told all of his neighbors. He said, look, I'm going to have
a bunch of people here and good thing he did is he had a bunch
of people there, but he told himhe said 10:00 we're shutting it
down 959 He shut the radio. He said, folks, we're going to
the bar. I want you to be quiet.
If you want to help, help me clean up, But we got to get out
of here and respect my neighborsand that was it.
Dude ten O 5 everybody was out. Everything was off.

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The lights were off and we were gone.
Beautiful. Beautiful.
'Cause he was looking out for his.
Neighbors. Right, it's the right thing to
do. Yeah, of course.
In fact, it was it Saturday night, Molly goes, hey, will you
teach me how to start up the thelawn tractor at like 4:15
tomorrow morning? Oh my God, I was like, I, I, I,

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I, no, I'm not going to do that.I will mow the lawn at 9:00 AM
and I'll be disgruntled, but yeah, I'm not like, I'm not
going to be the asshole that goes well now.
Now I'm gonna mow. In fact, I'm gonna mow
everybody's lawn in the neighborhood with my riding
tractor. I'm gonna start at 4 'cause I'm
gonna be awake anyways. So fuck you.
Like it's just, it's just, I hate it, man.
Yeah, I, I had a neighbor who hegot a dog.

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He didn't have the dog long because the dog barked
incessantly all the time. So he thought it'd be good
therapy to take the dog outside at 5:30 in the morning and start
mowing his lawn. I called the police and I said,
yeah, I think my neighbor's mowing his lawn.
The cops showed up and all I hear is, hey, what are you
doing? You can't do this.

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The fuck the neighborhood we moved from, the noise was part
of the reason we left and 111 ofthe times that we because we the
neighbors right across the street from us were fucking
trash. God, they were rodents and it
was like 3:00 on a Tuesday and they started lighting off
fireworks so we're like fuck, fuck.

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Get out of. School, fuck this.
So we call, we call and this is one of the reasons why we
fucking left that town. Call in.
We're like, hey, it's it's middle of the week, it's middle
of the night. They're doing fireworks.
Could you could somebody do something about this?
The officers show up and I hear one of them assholes go, did
somebody call? And the officer goes, yeah, they

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got you. You guys about wrapped up yet,
okay. And just left.
They kept on going. Fuck that town.
Yeah, that's fucking ridiculous when the cops, the cops should
have just been like, yeah, I getit, you're blowing off some
steam, you're having some fun, but you're disturbing the
neighbors. You guys got to shut it down.
Just Tom, shut it down. Yeah, it's easy.
It's easy. Just shut it down.
That's it. Yeah.

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And for the most, like in my town, like cops aren't Dicks
like that. They'll show up.
They'll just be like, yeah, we got to complain.
You folks got to shut it down. Sorry.
You know, we got an ordinance. You know it's.
Easy. It's easy.
I do. I do hope that there's travesty,
though, that neighborhood South of us that insists on lighting
off the fire. I hope there's Travis.
I hope somebody blows their. Fucking.
Dick off. A little JPP action.

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Yeah, think of the. Name right in the groin.
Right in the groin. Oh, that would be hurt.
That would have hurt a lot. Oh.
Yeah, blow a fucking Dick off. Hey, let me ask you guys a
question, you guys. Do we, I mean, do we have an
announcement to make or do we want to wait until later to make
the announcement or do we want to announce that we're making an
announcement again? I think we should announce that

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an announcement about our announcement might be announced
tonight. Stay tuned.
Yeah, we should announce that. There's an announcement on the
horizon. But what's on the horizon?
An announcement. Yes.
Fucking a man and. It's going to be the greatest
announcement ever. Well, since we got a great

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announcement to make, what do you guys want to go from here?
Well, we got, we got a little bit that happened this past week
A. Little bit.
A little bit. Do you, do you want to go right
into it, Tony, 'cause I know youwatched some of it.
You really want to get me fucking cranked up already,
dude? I want to crank me up.
No, we can't because we don't know what he's going to show up.

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And and honestly, like good point when when Matt's not here,
I like ending the show at a decent time.
So like, the more we can do without him, the better off we
are. Like if you got New Japan to
talk about, now's the time to doit.
Yeah, you want to talk about Dojo?
Want to slob on my Nabi? Don't threaten me with a good
time. You.

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Saki Sakisakisuki, come on. You want to leave me?
Rondo Tell tell me about it, Stud.
There was a. There was.
One we're going to. An AEW show, my man.
Oh, we sure had one in Mexico and there's 50,000 people on it
and I don't know, to me it felt like a mixed bag.

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What a fucking hand job. Stop suffering heat stroke and
join us you fucking prick. When you say mixed bag, are you
talking about like burritos, tamales, tacos?
Yeah, yeah, yeah. 3 Fer gotcha. Yeah.
You know, the the appetizers or sampler whatnot.
Yeah, the appetizer. Is that like fucking workout
equipment? The appetizer?

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Yep, appetizer. First one surprises to this one
to get the list going. Oh, you do all right.
Yeah, see, this is how good Brundo is.
Like Hilo, Key writes some shit down too that maybe we didn't
quite catch when it happened. You know, I listened back to Sam
Sackhouse last week and the whole time I'm thinking, oh,
that could have been a name. That could have been a name.

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I would have had like 5-6 more just from that interview.
Love it, love it. Yep.
So yeah, I wanna watch the wholething.
I, I, no, I didn't. I missed the main event and I
never went back and watched it. Shucks.
Yeah, so I I bowed out at Monet beating Zuxis for to make her

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Monet 6 belts. And that fucking belt looks like
an art project from a fucking 7th grader.
Yeah, that's that's how the. Fucking Mexico, what do you
expect? Yeah, that's how the AAA belts
look. They put no money into those
fucking. Those are my people.
He's on the CMLL, though. Well, all right, fair enough.
CMLL puts some money, I mean, the company's been around since

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what like like 1910 or some ridiculous amount that they
could be, you know, 30-40, fiftyyears old and they just never
decided to replace it. But one one thing I will say
about AWI thought the setup looked fucking great this year,
even with the stairs and everything.

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Even with the stairs, handsome cabin.
I so I, I always have liked the presentation of AAA and CMML
like it just the presentation always seems so much better and
always better than the AEW presentation.
So to give them the the CMML or CMLL presentation over the AEW

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presentation, it was it was a wise move and it, it looked
good, like it looked vibrant. There was, there was
eye-catching to it, but. I mean, they've been in an arena
Mexico for how many years? I assume it's not something like
they take down and put back up every week too.
Now you got to take it down and put it back up.
What about the rodeo? Oh, do they still do rodeos

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there? I don't fucking know.
I don't know either. I'm guessing.
I'm guessing they do rodeos. So, Tony, I know you.
Watched. You don't like the Campion
Mundial feminine belt? I know.
I don't like the company on Munde Al Famineo I don't.
Know it's cute, it's got a crownit.

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Looks like shit. Looks like it's got like some
sort of bird on it. Oh, a bird, yeah.
Yeah, a bird. And A and like a woman's head,
like, I don't know what. Oh, no, never mind.
It's two women's heads like. What?
You know what? Maybe he doesn't.
Like a little bubble head there.Oh Jesus, brother.

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I. Forgot what I oh, you know what?
I fucking really hated Mystico and fucking MJF.
Are we? I'm listen, I'm done with MJF.
Sorry, I'm done. I'm done.
He joins a group, he pussies out, he can't win.
The group hates them. They're constantly yelling at
them. And then the fucking schmaltz is

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that he gets disqualified after 20 minutes and what the fuck are
we doing? It was just so dumb.
And then, and then on top of everything with the big fucking
fight where the fucking luchadors come out to help the
to help them against the hurt business and fucking barefoot
Mike Bailey and Black Kevin Knight are on the top ropes for
like 20 minutes waiting to fucking hit their spots.

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GTFOH sorry I don't care. MJF being shoehorn into every
fucking group is it's old hat. It's tiresome.
It's almost as bad as Jericho with his fucking groups.
When are we going to grow up andget past this shit?
I don't think he's done with groups either.

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It's fucking. I think this is leading to
another group eventually too. It's so bad.
I, I realized, I realized watching because I watched
fucking collision as well, and that was, that was painfully
aggravating. AEW doesn't offer anything to

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me. Like to me as a wrestling fan,
AEW doesn't offer anything that draws me in or that I enjoy.
They had another one of those fucking phenomenal All Star tag
team matches now, Tony, you and I, we talked about Tecla and
Queen Nama not going to work here anymore last week, right

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and we we enjoyed that match. That match was.
Something it's a good match now.I mean, aside from the fact that
Queen Amanada took like 90% of the offense, it was a good
match. Yeah, yeah, enjoyable match.
Now what do they do to follow itup?
They put both of them in a fucking six woman All Star.
And why are we naming these fucking tag team matches?

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Enough with it. It's just it's it's a multi
woman match. They put her and they don't
focus on what they're they couldhave been building.
There could have been something else there.
They're just on opposite team. It sucks.
It sucks. Billy Starks comes down with
Athena. I I get it.
That's her thing, but there's there's no cohesiveness between
the two of them it. Looks like they're friends

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again. Or they're friends now, I think.
They'll be just yeah, they got it for.
Two years or not? Yeah.
They're buddies. Yeah, they're buddies.
Is Athena. Still the Ring of Honor women's
champion. 900 days and counting.Oh my fucking Lord, can they
just put a bullet in Ring of Honor already?
They. Should.
Yeah, they should. Absolutely.
I did. Like I did like that during

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Grand Slam they used a little bit of the Lucha Rules, right?
I like that. What was Grand Slam?
That was in Mexico. No.
Was that the name of the fuckingepisode of?
Dynamite. Yep.
Yeah, I know, Tony. I know.
I'm with you. You know, I agree with you on
this. But you use the fucking name of
the show, dude. You're placating this fucking
nonsense. That's that's on me.

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So, so I like that they started off using the lucha rules,
right? The lucha tag rules.
Except for they didn't fucking matter, because as the match
went on, nobody fucking gave a shit about any rules.
So that's AEW dude. Who's who's the referee?
I don't. Remember.
Oh, it's Lucha rules. I bet it's Rick Knox.

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I don't follow the rules and I can't count.
That's what I was looking for. Scott George might know.
Scott George watched it and he says Hangman's opening promo in
Spanish, Mystico's entrance werethe only good things.
I didn't see the opening promo so I didn't.
Say it. Mystico's entrance, yeah,
everybody sang along. It was like, it was like a
watered down Sandman kind of entrance.

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But I get it, He's the lucha star.
You know, whatever, whatever. Yeah.
So I'm not going to cheat on that.
I was expecting more out of Mystico MJF because I'm.
Why? Because he's the biggest fucking
star in wrestling for the last. Time please wrestle MJF, who's
wrestling like a douchebag now because he's got to.
Pretend he can't wrestle. I still have.
I still had hope and I thought MJF would.

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Hope in one hand, shit in the other.
Brother basically, but I MJF in Mexico.
I thought he would bring enough heat that you know the two of
them together. It could have been something.
Shave some more time off that match.
Maybe it could have been better.It didn't have to.
I agree with you. It should not have gone 20
minutes. Can Mark Briscoe stop being

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everybody's friend? Can you stop being everybody's
friend? Seriously.
I mean, if you met Mark Briscoe,wouldn't you want to be his
friend? Yes, but like he's supposed like
but he's got no like future likeall he does is like, Hey, I'm
your friend, I'm your friend. We're the conglomeration.
I'm going to get my ass binned again.
I'm like what the? Fuck, I'm.
Kenny Omega's friend and I heardhe brought back my bitch boy of

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this past weekend too. He sure as shit did Kotobushi.
Yeah, I'm worried man. Kotobushi and his fucking mental
state with two broken legs. Like I don't know man.
I got 0 hope for his return, I really do.
It's been, I think they said 15 months.
So we'll see. Dynamite.
He's supposed to have a match, so.
Is he walking to the ring like Naito or bowlegged and shit?

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No, he, you know, he did his slow like I'm going to murder
you. Walk to the ring.
So I mean, yeah. That's when I when I see
Kodabushi, I think like I'm going to murder you.
Like, but no, he did. He beat up Okada a little bit.
He didn't look like he was goingto break.
Anything. Bitch, bitch, bitch.

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I was. I was.
I was. Super 2 phony belts for 1/3
phony belt. Who gives a fuck?
I was, I was so aggravated. When was it?
It was Siobhani, wasn't it there?
Brundle Fly. It was like the conglomerations
got a new member and we're aboutto.
Find out what. The fuck man.
No build, no story, just hey guess what?
Was it hologram? Hologram.

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Yeah, yeah. Holograms in the
conglomerations. He's in the conglomeration now,
who gives a fuck? He's got more wins than fucking
Mark Briscoe. It's.
So fucking dumb. And then?
Tony, what did he do with his 4,000,000 pesos?
Didn't he win that match? What another mask?
That ain't bad. And then fucking.
I don't know who's dressing TonyShivani, but but somebody needs

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to step in. Somebody needs to do something
about that man. He is wearing a maroon jacket, a
blue shirt, a black tie, Gray pants and white sneakers.
Is he? Is he heavy again?
Motherfucker, I don't give a shit if he is King Kong Bundy.
No, the reason I ask is because he just never changes his
wardrobe. He'll, he was like when he's

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£200, he wears the shit that he used to wear when he was 4,
£400. It's fucking ridiculous.
And in that sense? Except for when he oh, go ahead,
sorry. No, no, go ahead, go ahead.
I was going to say, except for when he shows up to TNA in a
KISS T-shirt. That was fucking terrible, that
promo we had with fucking with Russo that time, yeah.
That was so fucking bad. Well, no, it was with Tenay and

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then Russo came out and said yougot a police in the sex locker
room and I guess he tied him up because we didn't see him again
for another 20 years. Bro bro bro.
Keels. Yeah.
Yeah. So I mean AEW, like is there a
pay-per-view this weekend like? No, July 12th Good.

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That's far enough away. Oh, that was funny too.
And I there. Is a pay-per-view this weekend,
but not. I was, I'm picking, picking Adam
here now, but he was like and coming up on July 15th.
No, the I mean the, the 12th, right, the 12th.
Come on now. You got to.
Know. You got to know this shit, he.

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Don't give a fuck, dude. He's there for a paycheck.
That's all he cares about. He gets to hang out with the
fucking boys. He gets the joke.
He gets to fucking tell stories.He gets to fucking break Kate,
babe, every match going, this isincredible.
I love this. This is awesome.
And these guys know each other. They're so great.
Yeah, collision at this point should be Nigel and even

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Rickabani. Just keep it at that, those two
guys. I'd rather there be no
commentary. Good night, I.
Want the I want the awful. I want the awfulness just to
fucking be there. Let it be there.
No context, no spoiling, no fucking setting things up, no
sock face, nothing. Well, Tony, you, you have seen

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those videos where there's a carwrecks and they put a commentary
overlay over them and those are always pretty funny.
No, if you're going to do an overlay with like the fucking
who's the fucking Aussie man? The guy that fucking does the
commentary over the animal attacks in the wild and over the
fucking car. Crash.
Oh love. Steve Irwin.
No he's like Aussie man or some shit like that.

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Aussie man reviews. He used to fucking just do
commentary over shit. That's good stuff.
That's a YouTube rabbit hole youguys need to go down.
Never, never travelled that one.It's.
Fucking amazing. I do a lot of YouTube
travelling, it's fun. See and and and Tony I I'm in a
little bit of a catch 22 with AWbecause.

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Let me guess, you do wrestling podcast?
You want to watch wrestling? I I hear that from another
fucking wizard all the time. I I I need to watch it so I can
I can at least explain my anger at it.
You know I don't you like, I felt like I was wasting
everybody's time while trying towatch it on Wednesday.
I was getting so mad at myself. Yeah, I enjoyed your texts while

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you were watching it. That was fun.
Yeah, that was. Jersey Cow, Jesse, you got it.
Aussie Man Reviews is great. There you go.
I trust you as a Co Jesse. Fuck, who doesn't?
That's what I'm saying. Damn right.
So, so do I. Can I just walk away?
I don't know that I can just walk away because then you're
going to hear, you know what you're going to hear.
You don't even. Fucking watch it.

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That's what you're going to hear.
You fucking watch it, you know? What?
I don't give a fuck. You know what?
I'm watching All Star Wrestling from 1978.
You know what's amazing? Peter Maia Via And they didn't
even have this episode on the onthe cock they like one week
Peter Maia Via and Bob Backlund your world champion are teaming
up together and then like they had an episode where Gorilla

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Monsoon joins Vince on commentary talking about what a
despicable thing Peter Maia Via did the Bob Backlund and Arnold
Skoland. I had to go on YouTube to find
the missing episode. Peter Maia via said fuck you.
He started beating up Arnold Skoland.
He beat up on fucking Bobby Backs.
It was it was some heavy duty shit for TV.
I was surprised they didn't haveit on there.
That's what I'm watching. Good wrestling from the 70s.

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And I watched, I watched this morning, I watched the Rise and
Fall of WCW. It's been a couple years since
I've checked that out. And then I watched the Ruthless
Aggression that that whole documentary series.
And I also watched fucking what was it, the FCW documentary.
Enjoyed them all, enjoyed every one of them.
Good shit, I watch a EWI want topunch myself in the fucking

(28:07):
Dick. So don't watch it.
I can't not watch. That's what I'm saying.
If I don't watch it, I'm going to come here and be like, this
is this fucking sucks. And then they're going to be.
I have no frame of reference to what what I'm speaking about.
It's going to be a situation. Answer will be what you're
talking about is why I didn't watch it because I wouldn't
enjoy that. On to the next.

(28:29):
That's what you know. That's why I stopped watching
Raw for years in 2019 and 20 and21.
I couldn't fucking stand all theboring backstage segments and
everything. And then I thought to myself,
why am I watching this? All it's doing is making me
pissed off. I've got better things I could
do on a Monday night. I've, I've seen every episode of

(28:52):
Raw. I can't stop it.
I can't, yeah, can't do it. I I went through the bad years,
man. I went through all of them, but
there's see, here's the thing, even with those bad years,
there's usually something I could point to and go.
I enjoy that about this, you know, I mean, there's usually at
least something, a segment, but a talent, something I could
point to and go, well, they still have that.

(29:12):
And that that that makes me interested and intrigued in the
in the overall show with AEW, they MJF has now lost me.
And MJF was always the guy that I could point to and go.
That's why I watch it. I like what he does.
I enjoy him as a talent. I he's lost me now.
What's fucking left? Yep.
Mark Briscoe. One thing Mark Briscoe, I

(29:35):
remember Scott Hall said this once.
Like Mark Briscoe has that thingwhere Scott Hall every he became
one of the baby faces that everynight they could leave him
laying, kick the shit out of him, he loses.
But the fans are still chanting this name and they love him.
I feel like Mark Briscoe has that.

(29:56):
Like he might lose but the fans are going to fucking love him no
matter what forever. Not.
In the and that makes you, you know you're never going to go
away. I'm not saying it's the not the
same, but it's similar but different.
I still remember when they didn't want to put Mark Briscoe
on TV because Jay said somethingbad 10 years ago, Remember?
That. I certainly do.

(30:18):
Yeah. Glad they fix that.
No those. 8 It makes you, It makes you one.
Like they did this because they felt bad for Mark.
Like you know what I'm saying? Selective memory by that
contingent what? The fuck, what the fuck?
What the fuck? Do you want Jersey Cow, Jesse?
Yeah, I'm trying. To figure out what he's talking
about here. It might.
Seem yeah, no, he's saying like there's no incentive for their

(30:41):
for them to change anything. If you want him to change it,
you got to hit him with the wallet.
But the problem is, Jesse, there's too many people out
there who just fucking will justkeep on keeping on.
And on top of that, Tony Khan's got the fucking unlimited money
bags at this point. Bump the money from Daddy.
Yeah, so if he's playing with his fucking action figures and
he's got a bankroll to fucking last up to the fucking wazoo,

(31:03):
there ain't going to be no changing it.
Everybody's just fucking fat andhappy down there and fucking AW.
What if you could, if you could take something and change it?
And the answer can't be shut thedoors about AEW to you know what
I mean? Like to to make to make it
worthwhile. Like in my mind, like I just

(31:26):
watched the WWE documentary and I'm going I'm I go Bill Watts on
the bullshit, go over the top, take rid of the mat, you know
what I mean? Like reset the whole fucking
thing and teach them how to how to work, not fly and flip and
everybody does a diving man and no rules and all that kind of
stuff. Like you, you actually enforced
fucking shit to make to make theproduct change.

(31:49):
I don't know outside of that what you do to make me intrigued
in what's going on. First move I would make, half
the roster gone, yes. Oh yeah, half the roster.
And I would separate them into piles.
And just because you're a name currently doesn't mean you will
be remaining on my show. Yeah.
You know, yeah. Because that's you gotta, you

(32:11):
gotta have more. You gotta have more than just
fucking flips and dives. You have to.
Yeah. And that can't work.
You're gone. And that goes into like with all
these multi man tag matches theyput on every week that goes.
If you don't look like a wrestler, you're gone.
You need to look like you can make a fucking problem for at
least half the fucking crowd, right?

(32:33):
Yes, yes, you need like, that's one thing that drives me nuts.
These assholes walk out in gym shorts and fucking look like a
wrestler separate. Yourself and.
Who wrestles in gym shorts? No, not wrestles, but comes out
in gym shorts. I guarantee you Kenny Omega
comes out in shorts half the time, right?
Man, don't. He's been a suit guy the late

(32:54):
since he's come back, no? No, no, no.
He just came two weeks ago. Whatever. 3 weeks ago he came
out for that fucking promo. He was wearing gym shorts, man.
Really. Yeah.
Don't look like the audience, look like a fucking wrestler.
Look like you can fucking cause problems for people even if
you're not going to, you know, like honestly, you look at

(33:16):
Dominic Mysterio, like Dominic Mysterio could be a fucking
problem. Like he would like, he would
just be a complete Dick head to people and but he could fucking
back it up, you know, give me something.
Put some meat on that fucking bone.
You know what? Hands up, Kyle.
I don't want to fucking hear it.I.
Don't want to fucking hear it. Bob Backlund earned the right to

(33:38):
do whatever the fuck he wanted. Hand job.
Well, I mean, fair enough Kyle, but so did Jim Duggan in his
later years. I mean, I think as as you get
older, you kind of earned that right.
But if you're a young stud in the wrestling business, you
should not be wearing gym shortsto the ring.
No, Brendo, I know you. You know, you watch the product
and you enjoy part of it. I'm guessing, yeah.

(34:00):
But if you could change something and you there's got to
be a mountain of shit that you you'd, you'd look to change,
what would it be? I'd really have to think about
that. No way.
There's too much, no? I want to give you an actual
good thing. I don't want to just say like
one thing. I think one, one thing I would

(34:24):
definitely want to change is keeping stories against stories.
And what I mean is, you know, not everybody is involved in the
same fucking story all the time.Like it feels like the, the
fucking what's this? The Death Rider stuff just has
way too many spoons in the porridge, as Matt would say,

(34:48):
like keep your top story as maybe two to four guys.
That's it. That when there's like the whole
fucking roster involved it, it'sjust too convoluted, too many
people to care about. So you know, it should be Moxley
and Hangman and like nobody elsereally involved.
I'd like to see it more like that.

(35:09):
Wasn't it the, was it a Bishop thing?
That was the ABC stories. So when you're A wraps up, your
B is ready to elevate to A and your C is ready to elevate and
you create your C and, and you cycle it through.
That's a good thought. It's a good fucking thought.
Look at. That I feel like that, you know,
I feel like hater creates. My.
Sea. She's hurt, however.

(35:34):
Now fucking hand job's just being a prick.
Tournaments too, Al Day chiming in.
Get trampoline wrestlers out of booking makes a great point.
Stop giving everybody so much creative freedom.
Give him a little bit of slack. Not enough to hang themselves

(35:55):
with. Accurate.
Can you say input? But let somebody beat like Jerry
Lynn for Christ's sakes, who's been there for six years and
probably threw up his arms 5 1/2years ago and said OK.
Yo, and that's that's fucking aggravating too, because I sat
next to Jerry Lynn. We spent a lot of time working
at, working at back-to-back nights together.

(36:16):
And I sat next to him watching amain event of, of the indie show
that, that, that I worked that he was at.
And he is watching it. And like, as it's happening,
he's explaining what should be happening next.
And he's going, OK, why didn't they do that?
You know, like he has got a fucking amazing mind for this
shit. Just look like all you have to

(36:36):
do is listen to the guy. But.
Everybody in AEW is a fucking star.
They all know what the fuck they're doing.
They don't want to take advice from anyone.
Yeah, I know, I know. It's.
Fucking shit, shit. I don't know.
That's all I got on a day. You guys want to move on?
Hey, is Jack Powery still wrestling?
Oh. Fuck, he hasn't been around in a
long time. I don't know what happened to
him. He drove.

(36:56):
Well, he did the scapegoat gimmick for a while.
Yeah, he probably drove his ice cream truck off the fucking
Cliff. Hopefully.
This bang boss. Was the last fucking day.
Yeah, the Black Bang boss writing that one down.

(37:17):
We'll hear that one again one day.
That's the one. You guys want to move.
You got you want to move on little WWE.
Yeah, we can, yeah. Yeah, all.
Right, all right. So I guess the big news is
coming out of Smackdown, John Cena recreates the pipe bomb.

(37:37):
Do you guys will see that? I did see it.
I did saw it. I'll go to you first, Brundo,
because we, we, we did our shitson a EWI want to give you a
chance to comment on WWE first. I'll be honest, like I I didn't
watch the match, I was able to YouTube but find the entire

(37:57):
promo for the first minute or two when he was just basically
doing the copy and paste of the pipe bomb.
I fucking hated it. But then he really got into the
meat and potatoes of the promo and kind of dug in on CM Punk as
like, you know, no longer the voice of the voiceless sell out
this and that. He was making some pretty

(38:20):
fucking good points there, and by the end of it I fucking liked
it. OK.
He missed he should have he should have said something about
a blood money Dick that would have fucking that would have
that would have put me over the top, but who I I fucking loved
it. And a lot of people have been
saying the shout out to Matt Cardona and Claudio Castignoli

(38:43):
and Nick Nemeth like it was morelike a veiled like how hi, how
are you to like the young bucks get it, Nick and Matt.
But those were also three guys that the fucking the IWC said
that Cena fucking held back whenhe was on top 1520 years ago.
It was so much fucking inside baseball in this promo.

(39:04):
I really fucking love that. And then when he ended it, he
goes USAI don't need 2 1/2 more minutes.
Cena is having way too much fucking fun doing this.
And like, aside from like some of the shitty stuff that's been
going on in his matches, like you can tell he's having a blast
and you feel it. And I fucking really enjoyed the
shit out of this. So this I think is the the best

(39:25):
thing that he's done since he's since the heel turn and I and I
don't I don't think it's close, not not even close.
Now, I didn't watch the match either.
I did. I did see the promo and the
promo got me like the promo definitely got me.
Now I'm a big CM Punk guy. I always have been, always will
be. But this this this promo there's
I think you're you kind of hit the nail on the head there,

(39:46):
Bruno. We're kind of built to a, to a
spot where you're like, OK, now he's now he's digging in.
And when he when he dug in, he fucking found gold.
Absolute gold. Oh, here he comes.
He's alive. Oh yeah, sure.
Is oh wait, we don't want that one, we want this one.
What's up Double T? Hello gentlemen, how are you?

(40:10):
You look like you sweated off 25lbs today dude it.
Was a filthy, filthy day. Yeah, we're going to talk about
it. We're in the middle of a fucking
gigantic heat wave up here in the Northeast.
Yeah, so much for that. I understand, we, I understand
we have an announcement. Well, we made an announcement

(40:30):
about an announcement with a forthcoming announcement to be
announced. But if you want to make another
announcement about the announcement to announce, OK,
hold on. I got to open it.
Is it a boy or a girl? He's got an announcement.
Yeah, he's got an announcement. What is he?
What's he doing? Oh.
Look at this, he's even got a fucking envelope like a an

(40:53):
opener and shit. A letter.
Opener I don't need. Charge.
Oh fuck, what is this? It's OK.
Is it black? What has he got?
Yeah, it's the Black Bane bus. Is he brown?
Is he clean? Is it?
Oh no. Oh.
Baby, I was right. What a day.

(41:26):
The Koozies have arrived. A special thanks to to Duke and
Al and HK for allowing the Shining Wizards to use the Yeah
to let everybody around the world's drinks be a little
cooler. Yeah, fucking a.
Little horny here too. Yeah, shout out to my guy over
at Cheap Shop Party for making these fucking beauties for us.

(41:50):
Fucking hey dude how many do we buy?
Like 10,000 of them. I think we got 200.
Damn. 200 everybody gets the Coos.
Fuck yeah we do. I How you guys doing?
We were. Talking, we're.

(42:11):
Yeah. Well, I just, you know, I just
catching up you. Fucking I bought some fireworks
for the the bar you. Fucking you fucking ass.
Yeah, we're going to. Light them off at like 2:00 AM.
Yeah, light them out of your asshole.
You're going to be here. You're going to be the one that
lights it, buddy. Fuck I am.
He's not going to have time to run away with those little

(42:31):
fingers trying to light the fucking fuse.
Or his little feet. He's don't feel me now.
It's not like Fred Flintstone every time he tries to fucking
run away from the. Fucking fireworks.
That's not that's. Not holy shit.

(42:54):
Tony was. I enjoyed the start of the show
where Tony was embracing the role of Clint Eastwood in Gran
Torino where he just calls the police on all his neighbors.
Jesus Christ. I I was going to make the.
Point, but I figured I'd let it dangle.
Oh yeah. Dangle bangle all.

(43:15):
Right. But I'm back.
Look, I just want to say last week's episode, I loved it.
I loved it. You guys have such a great
chemistry. Big fan.
Big fan. Thank you.
Thank you, Sir. Big fan I didn't want to add you
know I'm here though I don't want to interrupt the flow of
the show I know you guys talk tome AW you showed so much love.

(43:36):
I listened while I took a showerfantastic Brundo's got homework
to do he's got to come up with how he's going to fix AW more
than one example and then I logged in.
So I turned off the show. So I don't know what you guys
are talking about now we. Were we were discussing the CM
Punk or the sorry the John Cena pipe bomb?

(43:58):
Yeah. So we, we're up for your
comments. I mean we all made our comments.
I thought it was great. It was great.
I I still don't quite is this, is this happening Saturday?
Is this really going to happen? Well, we didn't get that far,
but. Yeah, they're going to.
They're going to find a way, a place, something they got to

(44:19):
find a way to to do it. To the Performance Center.
Tony shared his Facebook wrestling news with the group
earlier. But I was my my watch was so
sweaty I couldn't read the picture he sent.
I was saying before the show too, they sent the production
team early and now they're fucking stuck there like they

(44:42):
can't get them home. That's never good.
Yeah. So bueno, That's a lot of heads
to cut off. I wonder if they have ice over
there, like they're going to kick all the like, wrestle the
Americans over there. What would they call ice in
Saudi Arabia? Yeah, like.

(45:04):
I, I, I ice or however they do the thing.
That would be Mexico. That's true.
You leave my people out of this Brundle fly.
Your people. Why?
Because just because you go to aMexican restaurant, they're your
people. I love Mexico.
He does go to Mexico, I'll give him that.

(45:26):
He drinks a mosquito with his best gal on a Saturday night and
he's fucking Mexican. He.
Goes to Mexico and he stays at afucking resort.
Like when you're fucking hangingout with M12, then come talk to
me, you know? I I fucking I stayed on 5th Ave.
I don't know what that fucking means.
That could mean fucking central.Well, maybe you should culture
yourself. You're gonna prick.
That's for myself, I'm not goingto some fucking dirty third

(45:48):
world country. It's dirty or third world.
It's first class. You went, everybody leaving, you
went to the fucking like. Ritzy fucking part of Mexico.
The touristy part. Go where there's a fucking mud
Hut and see how they're doing down there.
And just fucking cross the border into Tijuana, jump on a
go for a fucking. Train ride on top of a train

(46:09):
with all the people trying to get to America.
That's India. Yeah, that's India, bro.
Oh, they do it in Mexico too. It'd be a long ass train ride.
Yeah, no, they do it in Mexico. A bunch of the people that maybe
work with me did that. It's got a real Underground
Railroad from Mexico. Wait, Lean and Lean and Larry,
he came over on the train. Can't.

(46:30):
I will not say or. Well, you're just fucking.
Wow, I'm not. Going to hurt.
I'm not going to put his business out there.
Allegedly, that's right. God damn it, it's the fucking
air on up here. I'm sweating like a
motherfucker. I don't even have.
Stand on dude, it's behind. You oh, because the the The
thing is broke. So then I put I have to put the
light on watch. Oh.

(46:51):
Boy, right, Because I wouldn't believe you.
You can pull the switch to turn the light.
Off the switch. Is broke jerk off, I just said.
That get your wife to fix it. Fix it.
Yeah. Write that down.
There's a brand new fan on the floor here, still in the box.
Get your wife to install it. Are you not around to hold the

(47:12):
tools? My wife is working.
Bro you can put in a fucking ceiling fan.
You're out of your fucking balls.
Dude, I fucking installed them in my house.
They're not hard at all, especially when you have one
there. It's already wired.
You just put the one down and put the new one up.
You've known me the longest out of.
Any, but you don't even have to be an electrician to figure that

(47:34):
shit out. You really give me more credit
than I deserve. I'm with you on this one.
Double TI wouldn't fucking touchit either.
No, I'm not getting fucking electrocuted.
I'll you turn the power off your.
Fucking hand job And where do you do that?
At the breaker use panel. Yeah, all right.
You knew. Something OK?
Is it labeled office fan? No, if if you got if you're old

(47:57):
school. Like my house is really old or
sometimes I have to flick all the fucking switches to figure
out which one shuts off for it. It's weird.
Like the refrigerators wired to the bathroom wired to one of the
bedrooms. Like they just fucking Daisy
chained everything in the 50s. It's fucking.
Here we go, problem solved. Hold on one SEC.
Come on, where is it? There which?
One Tropicale says if I if I getto come to the cookout, we can

(48:20):
put it up. HK can I'll hold I will hold the
flashlight for you. He should just put you on his
shoulders. Yeah, like freak almighty.
Pretty sure he won't even need to worry about a ladder or
holding up handsome Kevin. No tropical's a big man.
But I've seen a pipe bomb was fun.

(48:41):
I mean, CM Punk laying there playing with his fingers the
whole time was really like distracted me.
I don't know why. He was checking for numbness in
his fingers because he was hurt.Cena put him through a God damn
table. Yeah, but that's not the.
First time anyone's been put through a fucking table, he laid
there for 7 minutes. The greatest of all?
Time put him through a table. Didn't well.

(49:01):
You cannot fucking complain about AEW and then go Oh yeah,
John Cena put CM Punk through a table.
He laid there for 7 minutes. Because he's selling.
They don't do that at AEW. Saturday.
Saturday morning. Champions.
When one of them gets put through the table with the other
finisher, then they both crawl on the ring and under a minute.
You're going to be like, oh, that was fucking amazing.

(49:23):
The Night of Champions ain't fucking happening.
So you always hit him with a belt?
Dude, relax. Oh God, a belt?
Yeah, twice. I'm here, Brenda.
I got your back. Now I know.
Brenda was looking. For you to talk AEW.
Yeah, but Brenda liked the pipe bomb, so eat a shit I.
Like the pipe bomb too? I will say too, I saw on Twitter
just before Matt Cardona's already selling Hi Matt Cardona

(49:46):
shirts. That didn't take long.
He's brilliant. Yeah, he is.
Brilliant. Plus this.
Hi, Nick Nemeth. Hi, Matt.
Who? Oh, Claudio, What's the Claudio,
I guess? He held him.
Down too, didn't. He Yeah, yeah.
OK. They were all people that John
Cena allegedly held down when they were in the E.

(50:07):
Right. I know the Nick Nemeth one
because Nick Nemeth went on and he was like, you made some
comment like instead of going onsomebody's podcast for the
Mother Basement and crying aboutit, why don't you do something
about it? When he went on the Cold Cabana
podcast, Nick Nemes said that and you know, I'm sure we all
know the Mac Mac Cardona story. So I didn't know the Claudio

(50:29):
thing though. Probably not.
It's out there. No.
No. That was enough for old, old
John Chana to say it. Oh, apparently they have some
sort of like relationship, him and Seth and and and yeah,
Claudio, Seth and Cena, they're in some sort of chat together.

(50:50):
So Cesaro, just point the fucking they call it a coffee
group. I don't know why.
So Cesaro in response. Because they drink fucking
coffee. I think it's like their version
of bro. Stuff.
Yeah, all right, fine. So then Claudio just posted a
fucking picture of like a cappuccino with a little fucking
decoration on top in response. What was the decoration?
It's a fucking coffee with a barista fucking thing on top.

(51:13):
I don't know. What's the fucking?
Thing is it a? Flower Is it a?
Yeah, it's like a. Little flower with a hearts or
some shit. Hearts and a flower shit.
Yeah, it's a fucking coffee. It's like when you go to any of
these fucking places and they doa little design on top.
I don't. I don't go.
To those. I don't.
I don't either, but I'm not partof the coffee cup group.
What the fuck? That's?
True. I bet tropical.
I bet they serve those outside of his elitist car wash.

(51:37):
Scott George says Claudio and Seth own coffee shops.
Well, there you go there. You go.
I bet you John Cena drinks at them.
It's. Very possible.
Yeah, who doesn't like a nice cup of coffee?
Do you, where do you guys fall on the you know when this match
got announced like 2 weeks ago and you know, everybody went

(52:00):
into the Wayback machine and pulled up the old Punksters
tweet at old Miz suck a blood covered Dick.
You guys didn't talk about that last week?
It doesn't matter because John Cena fucking told it like it
was. Punk's not that guy anymore.
Yep. Punk fucking sold his soul are.

(52:23):
We going to get double switch here?
Is this where John Cena becomes the good guy?
You know after already is. Yeah, the reactions from Friday
easily could have been in doubleswitch.
Oh my God, did you see any of the videos of him at Fan Fest
this weekend? I saw him supposedly hitting the
that bag that you hit. The fucking speed bag or fucking

(52:43):
spackling Sam Roberts when he was at ringside at that.
How the audience do 6 baseballs?He picked up like 6 baseballs in
his hands. Oh, did he do that too?
Yeah, I think so. It's.
Going to be a meet. I saw Eli attack Tom Brady when
Tom Brady came out to Cody Rhodes theme song.
Fan Fest must be fucking amazingto go to.

(53:04):
Yeah, I, I, I worked a wedding last night and I came, I had
time to come home and take a shower yesterday and I just put
my NWO hat on and left the house.
And some kid at the wedding was like, I was at Fan Fest
yesterday and I met Randy Orton and Seth Rollins and I was like,
I do a podcast. He was like, oh, not Sam was
there too. And I was like, Sam's been on

(53:24):
the show many times, but he was fucking lit like a Christmas
tree. So I'm sure he doesn't remember
that conversation whatsoever. Did you too sweet him?
No, I completely forgot I had iton until he made reference to
it. I think you got the name wrong.
It should be the New York Order,I believe.
I don't know if you saw that NewYork Post Post.

(53:46):
Nobody saw that. Yes, I did now.
That you did, yes. Yeah.
For the New York Times. No, it was the New York Post.
That was the picture of Hall Nash.
And yeah. And it's like, oh, here's the
here's the history of the new, new what was it, the New York
Order? And it's the NWO guys on it,

(54:06):
Yeah. What is that I don't?
Know I knew we were missing something last week.
Oh, Danny, I don't care for that.
Dan, I don't like it. No, I missed her.
Yeah, So what did do you guys see Seth playing a role?
Is is does he cash in? Is that how we get the title off

(54:28):
of John Cena? Does he cash in the fuck Punk
and get Cena out of the world title?
Picture you know what make me feel better is if he cashed in
and fucked Goldberg like I don'twant Goldberg to be Gunther, but
if Goldberg beats Gunther, I would love to see Seth fuck
Goldberg There's no. Shock.
Oh yeah. Yeah, there's no world in this
world that. I know there's not, it's just
what I would like to see. You know what?

(54:50):
Never say never. Why does he have these fucking
two thugs hanging around with them if they're not going to be
there to help him out? Who Goldberg or Gunther or Seth?
Rollins, Seth. They're always there to help him
out, but. That's what I mean.
Like, like it wouldn't just be like, oh, I snuck one over on
Goldberg. Like it could be like these
three assholes fucking annihilate them and then just

(55:11):
take the title. Come on, a fucking spear, a
splash, and then Seth Klatt fucking cashes in.
I'm like you. Can't Sing.
He's a heel. Didn't stop Jericho fuck face
and AW you love so much. I.

(55:32):
OK, see. Stop.
I just enjoy it. I don't love it.
You love it. You love it, you love AW, you
want to kiss it and marry it. I didn't think I didn't watch
Collision yet, and I probably won't.
You got a fucking weekend free. No, that's the problem.

(55:54):
I'm behind the times, brother. I actually saw a double T over
the weekend. We were at a wedding together.
It was good times. Yeah, you and my wife got on,
got got along well. Dude, Rhiannon makes my list of
like my favorite people of all time.
She's so easy to talk to, especially when you know but
you. Got fucking 1 you.
Fucking queer. Well, no, I was, I was, I was

(56:15):
feeling good. I'll you know.
It was a night. It was good whiskey.
Fucking a it was. You know, makes it hard to talk
to re closing the car door. Well, you're a fucking dude,
that's why. I am with you though, handsome
Kevin. Like fuck Goldberg.
Yeah, fuck him. Fucking hate the guy, he's a
fucking prick. I just don't.

(56:37):
I saw that. And I don't know how long the
video was around, but I saw the video when him and Matt Riddle,
like, crossed paths in like backstage and like at like, AWWE
event and everyone's like, what's up, bro?
He's like, I'm not your bro. Yeah.
And I was like, all right, yeah.Yeah, he's a, he's a fucking
Dick head. Man, you don't think he was
doing that just to fucking make waves?

(56:59):
You don't think Goldberg's a little smarter?
Than. That no, I think he's a piece of
shit, he said. I forget what it was.
It was, I think it was the Treasures.
Remember the WWE Treasures fucking show where he's like, I
don't respect anybody, so you got to earn my respect.
Fucking why? Why are you so fucking
important? I got to earn your.
Respect. Why don't you just fucking
treat? People the right way.
And then he was on the God damn.I watched the rise and fall of
WCW this morning. He was on that every time

(57:21):
they're talking to him like God,he just sounds like a fucking
asshole. Nothing to do with him, nothing
to go. Fuck him.
Yeah, I don't. And I also like, I don't, I
don't know, like what? He's not AWWE legend.
I understand that WWE owns everything WCW, but he's a
fucking WCW guy. His first WWE run was shit.

(57:43):
The one where he came back whereeverybody fucking came in their
pants when they fucking destroyed Brock Lesnar in like
40 seconds. Sucked a bag of balls.
I don't give a shit about this. I have 0 interest in this.
Suck the bag of balls. It was not fucking good.
That match was amazing. Like watching Steamboat and.
Flair wrestle when they're fucking 55.

(58:04):
It's too little too late, Gives a shit.
I don't I've no I hard disagree on that one.
I love the shit out of that. Fucking yeah.
The WrestleMania match was probably the best 5 minute match
that I've ever seen. The.
Only the only reason, the only reason he's there's fucking
anything to him is because the way WCW booked him and there was
no fuck. It was a dead dead end.
They could have booked God damn roadblock in that spot and he

(58:27):
would have been better. No, don't.
Don't believe it. I think Goldberg.
Goldberg was the right guy at the right time and the right
person to put into. That spot, who they gave.
The right fucking entrance to when they built it around.
He was, he was manufactured. He he doesn't do shit.

(58:47):
He's a selfish prick. No.
I can't, I can't agree with that.
Still work. Roadblock could have done it
too. 43,000 people last minute in Atlanta to fucking watch him
beat Hulk Hogan. Come on, where's?
Roblox's hometown. They could have done it.
Saginaw. Saginaw.
Yeah, would have worked. It worked it.

(59:10):
Worked in WCW but once he lost the Kevin Nash like yeah the
rest was dull. Like I can't tell you anything
he did besides. He went off script bro.
Ending Bret Bret Hart's career and punching through a real
window. So.
Bret, watch the kick. He sure did.

(59:31):
I don't. Know, I just like when you tell
a little kid keep your eye on the ball and they fucking put
their face right into the fucking oncoming.
Bitch and I know. Crowbar like tweeted out like oh
like would people be mad at Terry?
You can't compare Terry Funk to Goldberg.
I'm sorry. Nope.
Yeah, Goldberg is a bigger fucking name.
You're out of your fucking. Mind, Tony.
I did like, you know what the best thing to come of that is?

(59:54):
Some guy replied back to Crowbarand be like, you probably never
watched the Terry Funk match. He's like just with clown
emojis. He's like, I wrestled them twice
on pay-per-view, pal. Fucking hand job.
I saw Crowbar this weekend too. Oh yeah, I'm back, right?
Yeah, Pro Wrestling Magic had a interesting ending.

(01:00:16):
Also was. It like the fucking homework we
watched. No, it was Darius Carter was in
the last match and apparently heeither like ripped up a sign for
a kid or something like that or said something to him because at
the end of the match when the match was over, he's coming out
of the cage. The kids father who is some

(01:00:38):
juiced up fucking guy was like at the cage being like behind
the ref starting to scream like you don't fucking do that man,
you you're a piece of shit screaming at Darius Carter being
like held almost held back. It was something he had like a 7
year old kid like right behind him crying.

(01:00:58):
Is this the Darius Carter that'sgot kind of like a basketball
gimmick? No.
No, no, that's Sugar Dunkerton. Yeah.
They don't all look like. HK.
Racist. No, no, there's a fuck.
There's a guy out here in the Midwest that wrestled a couple
years back. Is it really?
Yeah. I will say to the their junior

(01:01:21):
champion Isaiah Wolf, who won that match, big fucking props to
him 'cause he saw the situation.He instantly was told the kid
like, hey, go come up here. He brought the kid into the
ring, gave him the belt, had himlike, you know, cheer, had the
fans cheer him come up the aislewith him.
He's. Supposed to because he's the
baby face that's awesome on. Him.
Yeah, he defused the situation like perfectly.

(01:01:44):
That's a fucking kid that's thinking that's awesome.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's got a future to him, but it
was interesting. Was that Darius Carter was
probably one of the last people that we actually had in studio
as a guest. Yeah, in full suit, right?
Yeah. Or was it in his Basketball
Jersey? Or.
No. Fucking terrible.

(01:02:07):
Jesus. Nice.
Real nice. Yeah.
Thanks, Ma. Yeah.
What are you doing, man? So, Kevin, Jesus.
Christ, no, there was a there was a guy in the Midwest.
I'm pretty sure he went by Darius Carter as well and that
was he had like he wrestled a Basketball Jersey and basketball
shorts. Doing his sweet tea impression.
Just keep fucking digging that hole brother.

(01:02:28):
I'm pretty sure. Darius Carter's.
I'm pretty sure his name is Darius Carter.
Whenever I hear Darius Carter, Ithink Darius Rucker and I start
going hold my hair, hold my hair.
I will love you can't. Catch a fucking pass from

(01:02:51):
Dammer, you know, hand up. Are you thinking of Darius
Lockhart? No.
My Internet search doesn't show anything.
I'll find them, I'll find them and I'll put them in homework
you. Find them and you put them in

(01:03:11):
homework. Yeah.
I like the down tree said to thelumberjack.
I'm stumped. What do we?
Are we? Are we at the finals?
King. Queen of the Ring yet?
Almost. Close enough.
Yeah, there. I think there's a couple more

(01:03:34):
matches this week. Did is is yeet wrestling Cody
tonight? Yes, right.
Yeah. So who's in the other final?
We don't know yet. Orton.
Yeah, it's Orton and somebody. Orton and.
Orton's in. The final Orton's in the final,
yeah. He beat Sammy.

(01:03:54):
Yeah, so he faces the winner of Cody J and Oscar wrestles the
winner of Jade Roxanne. Roxanne.
I like that match Oscar and and and Alexa Bliss.
I enjoyed that match. I love anything Oscar does.
She's a I'm so fucking glad she's back.

(01:04:15):
I just love me some Alexa Bliss.I'm glad she's back.
Are are. We the Liv Morgan injury.
That sucks. The timing is terrible, but he
gives Dom his fucking next hoochie to move on to.
Yeah. But he was already moving on to
her. Yeah, but now?
He's got the built in excuse. It's like kayfabe fucking
brought that to life. I I got AI got AI thought about

(01:04:39):
this and you you mentioned loving Alexa and so do I, Tony.
But I thought about this and I think you're right on equal
opportunity. You know, we talked about it.
Ass cheeks, dude, ass cheeks. But I want the women to now
wrestle topless just to really even the playing.
Field right? Cover the butt cheeks, but
wrestle topless, right? Yeah.

(01:04:59):
You know what? I'm I'm down.
OK, see now. Now we found the common ground.
I'm down. I'm so glad you put thought into
that. That's amazing.
I'm glad you brought that to theshow.
No. No.
I'm waiting for Diana to chime in again, and she's coming.
I'm gonna. Watch them won't have blubber

(01:05:20):
and one after. The.
Back. I thought Anna Sam Blubber will
never get old. I will say I don't like what
Alexa Bliss is doing now where she's helping Charlotte.
It's like, who fucking cares about Charlotte?
And it like, oh, trying to be become her friend or so they

(01:05:42):
said something about that when she saved her from Yeah.
But every time Alexa does that she fucking harshly turns on her
friends, so it's going to be awesome.
Oh yeah. Oh wait, you're OK with Alexa
Bliss being friends with everybody but not Mark Briscoe?
Because Mark Briscoe loses all the time.
OK, I'm just. Making, that's why.

(01:06:03):
I've just kept making sure I gotall the facts lined up here.
If Mark Briscoe look like Alexa Bliss, he could be friends with
anybody. Yeah.
You know, there was one, one thing Mark Briscoe did that I
think people, most people missedin his Okada match is when he, I
fucking loved it when he went togo bite Okada it like he had his

(01:06:24):
finger and went to bite it and he, it didn't affect him at all
'cause he's got no front teeth. He's like, oh fuck, let me move
his finger over and then, you know, bite some.
More Yeah, no, I that was pretty, that was.
That was fucking great, yeah. Holy man, Okada went.
Bitch, bitch. Hey bitch, are we taking a break

(01:06:46):
before we before we move on withother stuff?
Or we have a. Huge announcement to make,
right? About an announcement, right?
We got an announcement to make. Yeah, well, we got, what do we
got? Night of Champions is this
weekend, so we're going to pick that as one ox Saturday
afternoon. If it even happens.
Yeah, if it. Happened.
I'm getting a tattoo this weekend that's gonna oh.

(01:07:06):
What are what are you getting? What?
Fucking what? Fucking Mexican restaurant, are
you going to get tattooed on youthis time?
Arby's logo you fucking. Douche.
Get Taco Tico or Taco Maker or Taco.
I'll probably get Ed Hunter or On the Border, the Iron Maiden
album, Darius Carter Tattoo. Just a basketball and a jersey.

(01:07:27):
Probably an ode. Yeah, a little ode to Darius,
Sure. It's.
Might get a blowfish a. Blow.
I like that. That's similar.
To. This slurp truck.
You stunt bump bitch, you fucking hell.

(01:07:48):
You say slurp truck 'cause I'm right next.
You leave that alone, Brundle. Fly, Yeah.
No, put it on the list. It ain't making the title, but
it's definitely going on the list.
What do you? Decide what makes the title.
Out of respect for HK, for God'ssakes.
Yeah, Brundle already named the episode Black Bang Bus.

(01:08:11):
Yeah, Triple B's. Also, I'm disappointed nobody
talked about New Japan last week.
I did. I talked about Dojo want to slob
on my nobby. No, you did that today.
That was today. Oh, last.
Week. Gotcha.
Yeah, I tried double T. You didn't try hard enough,

(01:08:34):
right? Woof, Yeah, woof.
Great. Let's let's pay some bills and
then when we come back, I think we're going to make our huge
announcement. Or do you want to do Tony's
homework first? Yeah, we should do homework.
First homework first. Yeah, Yeah.
So I guess we'll be back in about 3/4 smoke. 3.
Quarters, is that a? We'll be back in 3/4 smoke.

(01:08:57):
Oh, you have to explain that when we come back.
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entertainment here. Oh boy, oh boy, oh boy.
We're back. Yeah, we're.
Back. Shout out to SJ and the street
team. Don't fucking say anything,
Tony. What were I?
Saying you were so rude last week.

(01:11:56):
I wasn't. It was not.
It was embraced. Yeah.
Wait, do they call? Are they calling?
Themselves slobbins now or? No bogs.
No bog. Nil Boggs.
It's goblin spelled backwards. Go watch Trolls 2.
I'm not going to watch Trolls 2.Why?

(01:12:17):
I've never seen the first one, why would I watch a sequel?
I'd be lost. Watching AW so watch fucking
trolls. Some trolls 2.
I am too watching. AW.
Takes up just as much time as dynamite and collision.
You can get in trolls one and two on a good walk if you wake
up at 3:00 in the. Morning.
Wait a minute, Trolls, the cartoon movie.

(01:12:38):
No. The fucking worst movie of all
time. Yeah, Trolls, the cartoon movie
where they fucking eat the trolls.
It's fucking disturbing. No Trolls was the Trolls movie
with no trolls in it. It was like written by Vincent.
What the fuck kind of. Mental Olympic game are you
putting me through right now? Trolls is the movie with no

(01:12:59):
trolls in it, but they had slob slobbing bog.
What the fuck? Just goblin spelled backwards.
Yes. And Vince Russo was in this.
No, no, no. Where's?
Where's Chiner? Dude, I don't know what.
The fuck you're talking about? Well.
Shout out to the SJ and the Street team.

(01:13:19):
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Fuck yeah, Fuck yeah. Jimmy Cordera's next week,
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Hot in July? Hot in July.
And and if you're not a Patreon,I mean, I can't.
I finished the third episode of Old Fucking Purple Shoes and
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(01:14:23):
What a. For you, when you when you found
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It's such a fun journey. I only know handsome Kevin
through the podcast like he we're.
We're. We're friends, but I don't know
his how he got into wrestling story and I do a podcast with
him once a week. So to have him and Brundo take

(01:14:44):
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It's fantastic. I'm going to send Duke so much
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Send him potato chips dude. I mean technically I guess he's
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(01:15:06):
worth every second of a Brundo does a great job guiding the the
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It's awesome. It's such a great list and I
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Thank you, thank you double tap.I had a ton of fun working on
this with with the Brundle fly there.
Been having a great time. It's a fucking blast,
absolutely. And we got something.
Coming in July, I don't know what but it's coming 0.
Yeah. Maybe another.
Maybe we do a whole episode, Patreon bonus episode where we

(01:15:49):
just say we're going to make an announcement.
We never make an. Announcement that wouldn't be
bad. Yeah.
Not at all. All right.
Yeah, Yeah. Is there anything else we want
to discuss before we get to Tony's homework?
I think we nail it. All right, well, Tony was kind

(01:16:14):
enough to bestow upon us a very different style of wrestling
that I don't think we're accustomed to.
Tony, why did you send us to World of Sports, Giant Haystacks
and Fit Finley against Big Daddyand Bill or whatever the fuck
the guy's name was, Drew McDonald.

(01:16:34):
There you go, I. Don't know.
Fucking Drew is he? See the man, the myth, the place
of beyond wrestling. Who the fuck is Drew McDonald?
I heard he's old. He had a farm.
E i.e. I.
Oh, I'm always been fascinated by Big Daddy, although most of
the stuff that I ever see with him is usually a match against

(01:16:56):
giant haystacks. This thing wound up hitting me
from the YouTube algorithm, I guess because I was on a Big
Daddy journey at one point and how can you say no to a fucking
young spry fit Finley being involved in one of these matches
and I'm like tag match less than10 less than 10 minutes.

(01:17:17):
How could you go wrong? And it's a 2 falls match, which
is weird the way they announce it.
I don't know if you guys caught that.
It's like. Oh, I thought it was 3.
No but yeah, but they announce it as two falls, 2 count outs, 2
disqualifications, whatever the fuck.
It basically is a 2 out of 3. It makes no sense but whatever.
So I figured, let me bring a little something different.

(01:17:39):
And no, it wasn't rounds, it wasjust World of Sport wrestling.
It was the legend Big Daddy. I'm sure most people out there
at least heard the name if you didn't weren't familiar.
And I'm sure you knew giant haystacks from his fucking days
as Loch Ness. I mean, sometimes we try to
forget those, and unfortunately he passed away not too long
after that stint in WCW, but I digress.

(01:18:01):
Shirley Crabtree, the Big Daddy himself no longer with us as
well, but Finley's still around.I don't know about fucking Drew
McIntyre or whatever. This fucking he's Drew.
Drew is passed on. I looked it up.
He passed away in 2015, the age of 59.
Can we get a moment of silence for Drew McDonald's here?

(01:18:27):
So yeah, tag team action with the legendary Big Daddy and
giant haystacks. What'd you guys think?
I think young fit Finley looks just like David Finley.
Really. It's fucking what if David
Finley had a short haircut? Like I think it looks just like
fit Finley and he was the champion of something.

(01:18:49):
He was like the mid world champion, whatever that was,
yeah. That's what it I I I wish I
could understand the rules a little better right?
And then like not the match theywere making like Haystacks
Calhoun and Fit Finley announcements but I don't know
what the fuck they meant. Yeah, you couldn't really hear

(01:19:12):
what they were saying? No.
I mean you, you pick up on things here and there.
Like at one point when Big Daddy's giving fucking fit
Finley the old what for and he shit cans them.
But they say it was just momentum that took him over the
top. Yeah.
Fucking right clear over the toprope.
And what you think of his fucking manager, Paula, smacking
the shit out of Drew McDonald during the fucking opening

(01:19:33):
announcement, and then he just sticks his chin out and goes
here, hit the other side. Well, wouldn't you?
But it's just odd, you know whatI mean?
Like it just, it was something that was like, OK, that
happened. Yeah, and I think you put over
like, she's just like a valet. And here's this hulking man
that's like, yeah, do it again. That doesn't bother me.

(01:19:54):
You pose no threat to me in thismatch.
Oh see, I thought he was into it.
I mean, he could have been too maybe.
He was. What do you think of What do you
think of the Buck Zumhoff size ring?
A little small for this. I think Buck Zumhoff has
somebody he calls Big Daddy at this point.

(01:20:14):
Three times, it might appear. Fuck, Buck.
Yeah, yeah, the the turnbuckle covers a little fucking tight on
too tight. Like it was like a New Japan
thing gone awry. Except for the one that came off
and then that poor guy had to put it back on.
But I'll tell you the the the action with Drew and fit where

(01:20:36):
where Drew fucking just at one point Finley goes for the
crossbody and he just fucking buries him into the canvas with
that fucking slam. And then a little while later
he's got him down in a headlock and fit just kind of like towers
up and pops out and they just look at each other and fit.
Bam with the big forearm. Had me thinking of fucking Bobby

(01:20:56):
Backlund and and Brett Hart a couple weeks ago because it was
the same. It was the same shot, dude.
It was the same fucking shot. It was like, whoa, holy shit.
I really enjoyed it for what it was, the big Daddy stuff.
You know it's Big Daddy when he fucking shoulders fucking giant
A stacks over to. God anytime he ran the ropes was
like what the fuck? Is that it was fucking.

(01:21:17):
Terrible. They had to like.
Fucking scream every time he didit.
Did the crowd into it, brother? Yeah, I mean, it was fucking
over. He was the biggest star in
England for. Oh my God, he's big time over
and dude and Dave Finley and Drew McDonald.
Like I don't know much about this Drew McDonald guy, but they
fucking they had a good match. I thought these two, these two

(01:21:38):
really fucking went at it hard. The whipping each other into the
buckles and the fucking ring shit.
Thing. Yes, yeah.
Like you came for Big Daddy, butyou stood for these two guys.
This was fucking impressive. Finley took like a Bret Hart
buckle shot at one point, it felt like.
Why is giant acts afraid of Big Daddy?

(01:21:59):
Big Daddy's a fucking star, dude.
Yo giant like they're both the same size.
I do like how commentary put over like they, they, we rarely
have we ever seen them go one-on-one.
There was, I'm, I'm trying to find it.
I know they had one at the Wembley Stadium or Wembley Arena
where they drew like the biggestfucking house ever in like

(01:22:23):
England or Europe at one point. Hey, do you remember why the
turnbuckle pads fell? Because Big Daddy shot fit
Finley into the corner and fit like when spread eagle and just
rammed his fucking balls and. HK you've been awfully quiet
over there. I you know.

(01:22:43):
Well, one thing Tony said. You came for Big Daddy.
I did not come for Big Daddy I so and I'm not I'm not super
familiar with his body of work. I just wonder if there was ever
a time he was good. He.
Talking about not a big daddy guy, not a big.
And you know what? The other thing we we talk

(01:23:04):
about, you got to present yourself like a wrestler.
Why is this motherfucker wearinga onesie that looks like he's
got a load of diaper in it? Like why?
Why is that? Fix your shit.
Fix your shit big daddy. I mean call HK.
Fix your. Shit, Big Daddy, all right?
Haystacks, go fuck yourself. Not not in on haystacks.
Wow, that. Seems.
Yeah, these two, these two get in there, they get you can't run

(01:23:26):
the ropes, you can't do shit, Big Daddy.
Ran the ropes just fine. What do you heated?
Not not with a full diaper, he didn't.
Now. Now Finlay on the other hand,
what a fucking stud. There was some things that.
He did. What'd you say?
What? Finlay, he's horny.

(01:23:47):
Yeah, well, I don't know, he says Conan weird too.
Conan. O'Brien Well, that's Conan.
That's not Conan. Yeah.
It's it's Finlay. That's his name.
You can lay me down. Oh yeah.
Oh, yeah, I don't know. I'll be with you.
Anyways, he did some things in this match that if I were a a

(01:24:16):
young talent, I would steal immediately, Just immediately
that there's the spot where I think it was Drew that was over
him holding his leg and fit fit kind of puts his his leg up and
then slaps his knee to get that extra juice on kicking him.
Like there was there was some very small detail things his his

(01:24:37):
ways of getting in and out of holds.
This guy is a full on stud. Full on Stud just blew me away.
Washy because obviously I'm introduced to him in his WCW run
and in his WCW run, always was kind of fascinated with how he
worked going into his run in in WWE, still fascinated with how

(01:24:57):
we work 'cause he always presented something a little bit
different. But then to go back to this,
what was it 80? Was it 8484?
Yeah. To go back to this 84 version
and still see things that he diddifferently that still intrigue
me in the way that he works. Like if, if I was like I say, if
I was a young talent right now, I would be watching as much of

(01:25:19):
him as I could and I would be stealing as much of his shit as
I could. Because this guy, he had it,
man. He just fucking had it.
I was, he loved him this entire match, That those other three
chodes who do away with them, just do away, just do away with
them. Regal always said like Finley
was the guy he aspired to be when he first got in there.

(01:25:40):
Like he Finley was a guy like hewrestled in Europe, but he also
would tour Japan, he would tour Germany.
He would do all like the world tours as well.
And Regal always said like, that's what I want to be.
I want to be Fit Finley where I'm a big guy in Europe, but I'm
also able to do all these world tours because, you know, I'm as
good as Fit Finley was. So, yeah, and.

(01:26:03):
And I praise. Regal also had that same kind of
style where you watch him and you go, OK, you could take
something from that, You could take something from that.
There's always something unique and in what he did in the ring.
Yeah, no, I was for this match. What was was all about Finley to
me, all about it. Regal too, he was a big Daddy's
partner for about a year or so, so he would do the tag in the

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part. Well, because Daddy was the big
main event guy in Europe. I mean, granted, young.
Guy's the. Rub.
Yeah, exactly. He was.
Regal was the guy that got his ass kicked.
Yeah, well, he would get his asskicked.
He tagged Big Daddy and Daddy would come in, give him the big
bump and win and the fans would be happy.
It also helped the daddy his thepromoter was his brother I

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believe too. That does not shock me.
And he was actually. Out of the business for a while,
I think. I think somebody actually
fucking roughed him up and he was out of the business for a
long time. If you look on cage match.
Oh yeah, that's why, yeah, there's that huge gap, right?
Yeah, A. Huge gap.
And then eventually he fucking decided to come back.
But yeah, like for a while, likehe was legit afraid to get back

(01:27:11):
into the business. I forget the complete story, but
yeah. So was he ever good?
You don't think this was good? I don't think he was good.
And I've, I've seen a couple, I haven't seen a ton of his work.
I I haven't, admittedly, but I have seen here and there pieces
of it. And every time I see it, I just
go, what, what do people enamored about?
Like what do people see in Big Daddy?

(01:27:32):
He's a star. He's a fucking lovable
character. He's always bringing out the
kids like a fucking cheerful BigDaddy.
It's like JYD in fucking Louisiana.
Was he ever really good or great?
No, no, but did he draw people to the draw?
All the sold out houses have thebig fucking feuds.
But JYT could at least run the ropes big.

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Daddy ran the ropes fine, knocked it off.
No, he did. Not the only thing, I don't like
his build and his singlet. Like you got to switch one of
them up, either either lose someweight or put the words big
daddy up so it's not over your fucking FUPA.
Like it just says big and like daddy's on the on the
undercarriage. He looks like fucking Tyrus.

(01:28:15):
How dare you. This is also like the tail end
of his career now. Like.
That's true, yeah, Yeah. You know, I and I don't know how
much of that world of sports stuff is available.
I wonder if it's in my? This is the tail end.
I wish he had a shorter tail. Wow.
It's also also like it's a different style, like the rounds

(01:28:37):
are different. Like the, like I've watched a
couple joint sports matches where they're like fucking 26
minutes and they do it by roundsand it's like it's it's not
terrible, but it is not like 1981 WWF.
So did you guys understand the finish?

(01:28:58):
No. They got counted out after. 2
count outs. That was the finish, so I don't
think it had anything to do withthe fucking and.
The announcer even said like an did he say unusual finish or how
how did he put it an unusual ending to this affair?
However he he worded it, it seemed like he was confused by
it as well. Yeah, I I think everybody was.

(01:29:20):
And then everybody just started walking out of the ring and that
was it. And the crowd started leaving.
It was like what the fuck just happened it?
Was fucking weird. Hand jobs, he chimes and he says
Daddy is on the undercarriage. Write that down, Brendo.
Just wrote it down. See, Big Daddy did some stuff in
Stampede, apparently of. Course he did.

(01:29:41):
Yeah, that's right. He told Brett watch the kick.
Watch the big stomach, pal. Watch the kick.
What? He can't lift his God damn leg
off? He hit the shin music.
I got some. 70 Oh my God, I justthought of another amazing match
that I'm going to get for homework in four weeks.
Can't wait. I got to I got to write this

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down. You you you talked about
somebody working outside of likewhere they would normally work.
I got a perfect one. Perfect one.
I got to say 2. Loch Ness is finished where he
just splashes and covers the guy.
The most believable fucking finish in wrestling.
Like who? Who's getting up from that
fucking fat guy? Yeah, but you.

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But you got to remember too. Finley also hit his splash
before. Before.
What's his name? Hit his splash.
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. But yeah, I mean the I mean the
fact that Loch Ness is like, what is he like a legit 610
seven foot? Probably like that, yeah.
And what they say I'm at like 4042 stone or some shit like

(01:30:44):
that. Like, yeah, yeah, it was either
42 or 43. They want they would think the
announcer was like 56 stone on one side 50. 4 on the other like
you don't even. Have to know what a stone is to
realize that's some fucking beef.
You know what? I'm yeah, they announced Finley.
It's like 23 stone. So what you guys think?

(01:31:05):
Thumbs up. Thumbs down.
Yay, nay. 644 by the way, 46. Wow, Finlay.
Yes, two thumbs up. So you like the match?
Good for you. You know, for 13 minutes of my
life I enjoyed this. Oh, you watch it on.

(01:31:28):
Regular speed, of course. You got to play, you got to
speed that. Stuff up bro, especially.
I, I knew like like 5 minutes in, I was like, I, I got to.
Speed, take it away. The essence of the homework.
The match was like less than 10 minutes dude.
I mean, you watched the pudding match at regular speed.
Didn't you? Of course I did.
You couldn't spare 3 more minutes.

(01:31:50):
I didn't have three more minutes.
In me, Tony. Oh yeah, come on, you watched
fucking AW on Wednesday, you fucking cock sucker.
At least he watched it. Oh fuck off Brundo.
Pick on Tony day because he brings culture to the show.
Fuck off. That was a different joke.

(01:32:12):
Sorry, thumbs up, thumbs down. I got thumbs in the middle.
I didn't hate it, I didn't love it.
I enjoyed seeing a young fit Finley, but the action was
pretty good for what it was. I still wish I understood the
finish. But now you see, if I would have
just given you Big Daddy and giant haystacks, nobody would
have really been into it. But I'm glad I found the Finley
match. Made it worth watching.

(01:32:34):
All right, that's homework. I know I'm trying.
I've now I'm having. Oh, there it is.
Is that? It having a stroke.
No, I'm not having a fucking stroke.
I just, yeah. So Kevin, what's the
temperatures like out by you today?
Today wasn't too bad. Today high was only like 80, but
over the weekend high was like 94.
It was a real, real fucking Dickkick.

(01:32:54):
Oh, so you got the fucking shit before we got the shit?
Yeah, it was 80 when I left the house at 5:30 this morning.
Yeah, and you know what sucks? Newark always fucking gets like
10° hotter when we get in a heatwave like this.
I think Newark topped at like 1-10 with the heat index today.
It was disgusting. Delicious.
I get to. I'm on homework this week,
right? Oh yeah.
That's. Right.

(01:33:14):
We need I was just, I was just making sure I found the video on
my phone, but I couldn't find iton my laptop.
So I want to make sure it's something that people can watch.
By not going to a porn site. Right, but I found it.
Oh, you're you know what, handsome Kevin?
This, though, might be right in your wheelhouse.
I. Like.

(01:33:35):
All right, we're going to, I'm going to take you back to April
1st, 1994. Terry Funk.
Smoky Mountain Wrestling. Boy.
All right, Eel cage, tag team match, Loser leaves town.
Heavenly bodies. Rock'n'roll.
Express. I've never been more proud to

(01:33:57):
call you my friend Double T. Oh, a loon stem.
Moon stem. Wait, wait before you get super
excited. Which heavenly bodies are this?
Cause the word too. And Smoky Mountain wrestling
that'll. Be just fine, Brendo.

(01:34:17):
I think it, I think it's the oneyou'll enjoy, but just make it.
Yeah, it's it's the one he's he's going to enjoy.
Oh, OK, with old Jimmy Backlund in it.
Yeah, he was known as Jimmy Backlund.
For old Jimmy, right? Yeah.
So I will I will send that link to you guys after the after the

(01:34:39):
show. And I will watch it multiple
times. Multiple times, yes.
Al Day chiming in. Why would you get him this hot
and bothered so close to his bedtime?
Double T. 'Cause I know he's been up since
2:20. I have.
Did Now I don't know if you guysasked and I hate to go back to
the beginning of the show, but did your dog go into the the

(01:35:01):
thing that you built it? This this morning, yes, yes, she
did. Yeah, yeah.
It it's it's kind of a tough play because it's got the like,
it's it's just a kennel, but we never close it.
It's, you know, it's like an extra room for her to be in and
be safe and. She's in A room.
Well, she's she's got, she's also got a room.
But no, it's, it's, it's got a we never closed the door.

(01:35:23):
So it is, you know, it's like a little like.
It's like a dog house kind. Of so the dog just put the door
open. Oh no, she's a dog and she shits
outside, you animal. No, you said you never closed
the door, so I just want to ask.So it's like Matt's bathroom?
Yeah, except the dog has enough sense not to shit with the door
open. Because I have plants.

(01:35:47):
Nothing beats after a hot day infront of that oven all day
today. Yeah, dropping off a hot log
with the fun. And using the bidet with all the
doors open fan. I'm just picturing your fucking
hairy ass with fucking water spritz in it.
Get the fuck out of here. I don't.
Know if I have a hairy ass? Get a fucking throw.
Up Tony, I will tell you this, this here we go.

(01:36:10):
We were helping helping Charles clean up after the wedding and
had to be like 830. There was nobody there.
It was like me, Ree, Pat, Melissa, Jamie, Jenny.
I go in to take a piss. Some fucking vagrant fucking
stumbled in. It was blow.
Like, at what point in your lifeare you blowing up a fucking
toilet in a park at like 8:45 ona Saturday night?

(01:36:31):
He was stinking it up. Oh my God.
And I was all full of Tiger's blood.
I came out and I was like, that guy's fucking shitting up a
storm in there. Did you leave the door open for
him? I was like, don't go in there.
Were you doing your laundry in the bathroom?

(01:36:54):
Never done. This thought was occupied.
God damn, it's. Like I just got the rinse cycle
left. You want to hurry up?
Knocking on the other stall. Hey, you got any fabric
softener? It was a fun.

(01:37:17):
It was a fun fucking wedding, man.
It was a blast. It was a good time, I think.
I guess we'll how do we want to proceed with our huge
announcement? I mean, I guess we could start
with the catch phrase, right? Thanks guys.
What? The catch phrase.
The catch phrase If Dave Meltzercan have one, why can't we?

(01:37:43):
That's. It we are creating the shining
Wizards. Hall of Fame?
Fuck yeah, we are right. If it melts, we can do it.
Why can't we? So I don't give a shit what any
of you fucking think. We're gonna, we got a whole
master plan here, All right? We're going to pick the first

(01:38:05):
class right now, live on this show.
Then we're gonna put a ballot together and we're gonna send it
to to a bunch of people. We already have a predetermined
list of people who get a vote, and at the end of the year we
will unveil who made it into theThe Shining Wizards Hall of

(01:38:28):
Fame. But right now we're going to
decide and discuss who is going to go in this first class
decided by us for where are my notes in terms of what we
decided on here? I can help you out.
Thank you. Because you're a little more up
there. Yeah, we've we've put some, we

(01:38:48):
put some rules, some some guidelines, guardrails that we
wanted to go by despite some of us being much older than the
other Wizards. We've decided that we are going
to take a time frame of 1970 forward.
We are also going to go by a rule where a wrestler has to

(01:39:12):
have not wrestled for at least five years.
If some, if someone has wrestledat least three matches in the
last five years, they are not eligible to be put in the Hall
of Fame. So those were like the loose
rules in terms of time frame, interms of criteria.
This is the stuff that we thought about and we considered

(01:39:32):
in making up our first nominees and deciding who's going to go
into this first class 1st. We're looking at the impact on
the industry, what this particular wrestler, tag team
personality has brought to the wrestling industry.
Let me see what they meant to the business.
Did they have a huge impact on the business itself, their

(01:39:55):
drawing power? Were they able to command a
crowd? Were they able to bring people
in? Did people want to pay to see
these people, their accomplishments in the ring?
We know it's kayfabe, but you know, the more you've done, the
better your chances of getting into the shining Wizards Hall of
Fame and longevity. How long did they do this for?

(01:40:15):
Did they sustain? Were they, were they meaningful
to the industry for a greater period of time than most?
Did they have that career that spanned maybe 2, maybe 3, maybe
even 4 decades? These are the kind of things
that we put in and these are thekind of things that we are
considering and nothing's off limits.
We're looking around the world for these classes.

(01:40:37):
Am I wrong? No, I'm right.
So you know. And, and Tony mentioned, we're
breaking it down into 3 categories.
We're doing singles, tag teams and like managers and
personalities. Yeah.
And so we each decided that we were going to bring, you know,
short lists together. And then from those short lists,

(01:40:59):
we're going to whittle them downand we're going to figure out
amongst the four of us who is going to be bestowed as part of
the first class into the ShiningWizards Hall of Fame.
And like Matt said, also after this first class, we're going to
keep a running list of people that, you know, that should be
considered for the Hall of Fame.And it's going to be a ballot.
And we have a list of people that are going to get these

(01:41:21):
ballots. And at the end of the year, it's
at the end of every year, we're going to allow our people to
vote. As to the next classes of the
Shining Blizzards Hall of Fame, Pretty much.
Yeah. That pretty much covers
everything for now. Like we don't need to get into
details of later on, but for thepurposes of what we're doing, I
think that pretty much covers it.

(01:41:41):
All right. So how do we want to go about
doing this? I think maybe we each go, we
each give a name, right? And if we can cross reference,
right, if all four of us have a guy, I think that's that puts
them in right. I would think so.

(01:42:03):
I. Would think so.
So what we? Yeah, So what we decided on just
so you know, at home, like we each came up with a list of 6
singles wrestlers to put in. We also came up with a list of
three tag teams and then a list of three managers slash
personalities to put in. So I guess what Matt's saying is
like we will take those lists and cross reference them.

(01:42:24):
Do we do we want to start easy? Do we want to start with like
maybe tag teams or managers at 1st and then do like the singles
at the end, like, you know, the big finale or?
We could do that. No, however you guys want to do
it. Yeah, I like that.
I like that idea, Tony. Well, I think I mean whatever we

(01:42:45):
decide to do is going to be highly entertaining because we
will hit an impasse where there will be yelling and screaming.
Of course, why else are we doingthis?
Scott, George. Fantastic question.
Where is the Shining Wizards Hall of Fame being built?
Bids are out if we're waiting tohear back.

(01:43:07):
It's a highly contested numerouscities around the country.
Some international bids have come in.
We can't say for sure, but things are in the works.
Yeah, Xanadu. Is definitely in the works.
Xanadu for all you Jersey people.

(01:43:27):
Xanadu. Fucking.
Stupid. What was called the R word?
What was said the R word? I kind of did say it.
I had my OH. Oh.
Yeah. All right.
So I guess we'll start in the manager personality department.

(01:43:49):
I'm going to take a stab at thisand I'm going to guess that we
all had Bobby the Brain Heenan A. 100%.
Yep. Well, I mean, if it's going to
be that easy, we might as well fucking call Phil Reya.
I mean, what's to say Bobby Heenan?
Not only a great wrestler, a great mind for the business,

(01:44:10):
amazing manager, always knew where to be and where not to be
behind the microphone. Legendary.
Some people still put Gorilla and Heenan as their favorite,
you know, commentary team. I consider him to be my favorite
commentary team, but he didn't like just a huge, huge name in
the business. And, and not to be overlooked,

(01:44:31):
like when he was in the ring, hewas good in the ring too, 100%,
you know what I mean? Like, I think that's one, one
part of the, the an easy part ofwhat he did to overlook because
he was such a star when he was managing and, and as a
commentator. But yeah, he's he was everything
a professional wrestling personality could be, was Bobby

(01:44:54):
Heaton. Without it out.
And he's quick fucking. Quick.
By far and away the best overallwrestling personality.
Best manager, probably best commentator.
Could have been the best wrestler until he realized early
on his career he'll get further and can stay places longer as a
wrestler, as a manager. And I guarantee besides maybe

(01:45:21):
Bod, Winkle and Stevens, he's probably a better wrestler than
everybody else he managed at onepoint or another.
So. Fair points.
Bobby Heenan's in. All right, he was the.
I took the easy route. I went first.
So who's? Next.
Wants to go take a stab next. I'll throw one out there for

(01:45:45):
manager Jimmy Hart. I've got Jimmy Hart on my list.
He was on my list as well. Really.
Yeah, yeah, he he edged out one other guy.
But yeah, Jimmy made my list. Good edging.
Yeah, good edging. I was not to say about Jimmy,
you don't have Jimmy Hart. I don't have Jimmy Hart.

(01:46:05):
The the can I say this, the tiebreaker between Jimmy and the
other gentleman I was between was his contributions on the
musical side of things as well. Like he, you know.
What I mean, like amazing manager, highly entertaining,
but he also contributed in in other ways.
And that's what kind of broke the tie in my mind.
I went, yeah, Jimmy's got to be there.
But I mean like took he took fucking like sick bumps too.

(01:46:29):
Like, I mean, you go back Jerry Lawler and Andy Kaufman, like he
was the catalyst for that, you know, like the Heart Foundation,
Hulkamania, the guy's done everything.
Like, it's, it's nothing. And he's still kicking and he's
still, he's still out, man. I got a fist bump from Jimmy

(01:46:50):
Hart two months ago. You got fisted by Jimmy two
months ago. Fuck yeah I did.
Jealous. All right, so we will.
We will leave Jimmy Hart off to the side for now.
But Jimmy Hart's got three of the four votes.
I might as well go, I think. I think there's another one
that's blatantly obvious. You love him or hate him, you

(01:47:11):
can't knock his contributions tothe business.
God. Damn Jim Cornette.
Yep, and that's those from my 3.Grundo.
Jimmy Cornett. Jimmy Cornett.
Yeah, those are my three too. Handsome Kevin.
I had Heenan Cornett. Yeah.
Jimmy Hart. Yeah.
I mean, what's there to say about Jim Cornett?

(01:47:32):
Ran his own promotion. Fucking manager of tag team
champions extraordinaire. Manage Yokozuna.
Sorry. The voice of Yokozuna or
whatever you wanted to call him,is his advocate.
He was an advocate before Paul Heyman, I mean.
Spokesperson. Big part of over Ohio Valley
wrestling with at the time Batista, Cena, Orton Benjamin.

(01:47:54):
Yep. You know, all Lesnar, all those
guys. You fucking Rico.
Yeah. Rico got on TV.
The Bashrooms. Yeah.
And, and even like even people that can't stand him, when they
see that clip of him explaining what professional wrestling
should be, they go, he got me. He's right.

(01:48:15):
You know what I mean? Like his mind for wrestling is
is is top of the class. I used to buy all the Jimmy or
Jim Cornette shooter interviews for like RF or ROH and all that
just because it was so interesting and like, like, not
that I was in the wrestling business or anything, but I felt
like I learned stuff from watching and I was just
interested the whole time. Yeah.

(01:48:38):
Yeah, yeah, I mean, the cheeseburger story too is the
fucking legendary story. God damn motherfucker.
You all had Keenan Cornett and Jimmy Hart.
Yeah, who? Who is your odd man out?
Double T. The manager of the Four

(01:49:00):
Horsemen, James J Dillon. That's a great pick.
That is a great pick. I could tell by the reaction of
the group, though, that it's like going to go in the favor of
the mouth of the South. No, no, we're not limited to
just putting in like 3. I mean, we can, we can go for

(01:49:21):
like that was kind of like what we were thinking, you know, like
when we first put this together.But, you know, make the case
manager of the Four Horsemen. He was behind the scenes, did a
lot for WCW, not only as a figurehead, but like, you know,
like like in the office and a lot in the office for WWE as
well. That's right, yeah.

(01:49:41):
And he wrestled. He did wrestle.
He wrestled quite a bit. His debut in Madison Square
Garden, his only match in the Garden, was against Tito
Santana, by the way. Wrestled in so a couple war
games. Sure did.
Couple of five star matches thatKurt Angle don't have.
I mean I don't know what HK or Brundo think but I am not
against putting JJ in the first class for the Hall of Fame, but

(01:50:06):
it's up to you guys. Unfortunately, now that you I
look at. Oh oh.
His his accolades. OK.
There's really not a lot of meaton the JJ Dillon bone.

(01:50:28):
So he really had like the 80s with the horsemen.
That's really it. And he wasn't there like for
every version of the Horsemen either, you know?
All right. Well, let me ask you this.
You don't have to say the person's name, but is there one
manager you can think of that you would put above JJ Dillon,
aside from he and Cornett or Jimmy Hart?

(01:50:48):
And if there is, maybe JJ doesn't get into the first
class. I can think of 1.
I can think of 1. But I I could think of two, but
one's still going right. Well, I'm asking double T
because if there's somebody you can think of, then maybe.
Because it came down to JJ Dillon and this other manager
and I went lean towards JJ, but I feel like I should have leaned

(01:51:10):
towards her. OK, I think I know who you're
going with. Yeah, I think still too.
I mean she did manage 2234 former one.
Oh, no, no, no, it's not. I know.
I. Know, I know.
Thank you. Double T thank.
You. Fucking asshole's cross.
I I knew you were smarter than that.
All right. So our first class of managers

(01:51:31):
is going to be Bobby the Brain, Heenan, Jim Cornette and Jimmy
Hart. Jimmy Hart, Scott, George.
No one had Captain Lew. You know what I mean?
Guiding Light manager What? 19 World Tag Team Champions, A
bastion of everything that I've been watching in the fucking All
Star Wrestling. Did he have a world champ too?

(01:51:54):
Yes, he managed Ivan Koziak. And.
He also, yeah, definitely Koloff.
I'm not sure about Stasiak. Stasiak would have been
definitely been the wizard maybe.
Let me see if I can find that picture of him.
There's definitely a picture. Probably not Blasey.

(01:52:15):
Blasey was still wrestling then.The Wizard had the tag team
champions. He the Wizard LED Stasiac to his
victory over Morales. Yeah, OK, yeah, I I found the
picture of him with. And and the Wizard had superstar
Billy Graham, too. That's right.
I feel like everybody on the heels side that had a

(01:52:37):
championship had a had a managerthough, no?
It's a good foil. It's a good foil, right?
Yeah, it makes sense. Everybody had a manager.
Basically, if you were a heel, you had a a manager.
Except for, was there really anybody?
Well, and even the world champions had Arnold Skolen like
Bobby Backlund had Skolen. Bruno had Skolen.

(01:52:58):
Did Pedro have Skolen? Maybe, maybe not I.
Don't think he did. OK, so that that's our that's
our manager slash personality section of the Hall of Fame.
Let's move on to tag teams and I'll go first 'cause I think
number one with a bullet on everybody's list, maybe not
number one, but should be on everybody's list.

(01:53:19):
The Legion of Doom, road warriorHawk road warrior animal,
correct. Oh, I get.
I get quiet from a couple of Wizards.
Real who? Really.
I forgot. What?
I was thinking that I have threenames and I I just plain forgot
about Legion and Doom. So Legion Doom was not number

(01:53:41):
one with a bullet to me. But.
They were on your list. They they did make the list, but
grudgingly. I'm not a huge LOD guy but yeah
it it makes complete sense. You have to, I mean, like the
the style that they wrestled, the impression they made on the
business, even when they were heels.
People fucking love them, you know?

(01:54:01):
Yeah, yeah. And championships everywhere
they went. NWAWCW, you know.
Well, that's the thing, Like I wanted, I wanted it because I'm
not a big LOD guy. So I was trying to figure out
ways to talk myself out of it. But at the same time, that's not
fair. You know what I mean?
Like I had to get in in to myself and go, wait a second.

(01:54:22):
This is this isn't this isn't the hall of of what, what I
like. This is deserving Hall of Fame
and and LOD is deserving. Brundo just Plumb forgot, huh?
Yeah, just Plumb forgot, but I'mtotally good with kicking one of
mine off for LOD. Interesting who who Brundo had
on his. List, that's all right.
We'll get there. But double T, so it's so we got

(01:54:42):
three of us, right? Yes, I'm in on the the Road
Warriors, the Legion of Doom. OK, so in the.
Business. So I'll mark them down.
They're not, they're not a definite yet, but we got three
votes on them. Somebody want to go next?
I would love to hear either Brundo or HK.
Curious. I'll throw out one of mine.
I got Midnight Express. Which version?

(01:55:06):
Eaton and conjury. Wow, OK.
Because they were the first version.
They drew boat fucking loads of money in mid in in mid South.
They were only supposed to be there just for, you know, just
to work the rock. No, who was it?
Work a little bit with Rock'n'roll and JYD and Watts,

(01:55:29):
but he they got over so huge that they just kept drawing huge
houses. They wound up working they they
worked with wrestling, too, and.And yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
They, they had the second biggest house ever at the
Superdome. They drew fucking huge money for
N.W.A. They drew, they didn't draw for

(01:55:53):
world class, but they had a goodrun there.
So it's hard to go against thoseguys and not not to go against
Eaton and Lane, like they had the great fucking matches, but
it was already turning into likea different part of the business
from let's say four to five years later.

(01:56:14):
No, I got you. I got you.
What are you guys thinking aboutthat?
That's a good, I mean, they're agreat poll, yeah.
Yeah. Great.
Paul, I'm surprised you went Eaton and Condry because I think
everybody knows Eaton and Lane. Yeah, but you know what?
Yeah, I'm a little surprised, but not really because Eaton and
Conjury was a great combination.Yeah.

(01:56:35):
I think people just know that the the the Stan lane version
better because sweet Stan lane, you know, good looking guy.
Eaton and Conjury drew the money.
Eaton and Conjury, not the fucking best looking guys in the
world, but you know. Eaton and Conjury drew the
money. Landon, Lane and Eaton had all
the matches, Yeah. The.

(01:56:57):
Honeys. Yeah.
All right. I'm curious HK who you got for
us? The Dudley Boys.
See, they, I don't think they qualify.
They've wrestled in the last five years, right?
Wasn't it three matches there? Wasn't there a cap on that?

(01:57:18):
It had to be 3 matches in a calendar year, yeah.
I might have my years off. When did when did they make that
return in WWE? Was that before 2020?
Yeah, that was a. While ago that was a.
Long time ago, OK. That was pre COVID.
Yeah. Yeah, yeah, it was, it was right
after one of the Wrestlemanias in like Dallas or something like

(01:57:40):
that. So yeah, yeah, yeah.
That was pre COVID. Yeah, Dudley's most decorated
tag team, Yeah, you've ever seenand made an impact absolutely.
Everywhere they went had good matches, both with good dance
partners and not good dance partners.
I think that part of what they did in ECW, and you guys would
know better than I would as far as the ECW contribution, but

(01:58:02):
like, they were starting fuckingriots from what I understand in
ECW and that that, well, don't fucking give me that.
I said you guys would know better than I would.
She peed, bro. You got lucky HK.
They did wrestle 2 matches in 2024.
Well, one of one of them was thethe Tribute to Extreme, was it

(01:58:23):
not? They qualify that as a match.
Yeah, against the Onita and Dreamer.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I think the the Dudleys, if
if you're talking about A tag team that deserves to be there,
I think they 100% deserve to be there.
Like I said, would are they not the most decorated tag team of
all time? Yeah, yeah, you definitely you

(01:58:47):
would make that argument, although the WCW tag wins, you
know, yeah. Yeah, I.
Don't know man. The Road Warriors The Road
Warriors might have more titles,honestly.
I mean, ECW 10 times alone, right?
I don't know what we're talking for WWE Impact.
Did they win titles in Japan? Yeah.

(01:59:09):
N.W.A or New Japan, everywhere they won the they won something
in all Japan too, whether it wasthe tag titles or like A tag tag
lead or something like that all.Right.
So Deadly Boys got a vote. Yeah, eight time ECW champions.

(01:59:29):
They're the hustle. Super tag team champions, IWGP
tag champions twice TNA world champ.
Now that's fucking Bubba. Oh.
They won the TNA tag titles, yes.
Yeah, that's what I was looking for.
Were they also N.W.A tag champs?Yes, for 28 days, TNA Tag Team

(01:59:51):
Champions twice. I think the Road Warriors have
more tag titles than them, but it's the eight times as the ECW
Tag Team Champions, 8 times as the World Tag Team Champions.
Yeah, that's 16 right there. Yeah.
Yeah, but then again, was it like champions for a day and
then the next day? Oh.

(02:00:11):
ECW for sure. Like they won and lost the
titles on their last night in the company.
It's like. Yeah, they're eight times as WWF
World Tag Team Champions combine281 days.
That ain't no fucking demolition, Ron.
No, it's not. I mean, ECW there 8 times is 230
days, yeah. Yeah, and then they're two times

(02:00:34):
as IWGP Tag Team Champions 276, but that's probably because they
never fucking defended him over there.
Hey, the feather in the cap is the Hustle Tag Team Champions
for 1097 days. Oh, that's a good one.
They really fucking hustled. Yeah, how about that?
How about them hustles? Double T Bring me something,
brother. And you brought, you just

(02:00:54):
brought him up, Tony, the demos,really.
Accent. Smash.
They're on my list as well. That I mean that look, without
being, you know, I'd obviously I'd go, I'm a heart, you know,
I'm a Bret Hart Homer. I'd go Heart Foundation over
everybody. But my childhood was essentially

(02:01:15):
Demos dominating the tag team division from the time they beat
the Strikeforce to the time theylost the titles to the Colossal
Connection. And they won them back like it
was the Demos man. They were the tag team to beat
the stuff with the powers of pain, the fucking double switch
with Fuge the stooge. And I know I, I'm sure there are

(02:01:37):
people who will argue with me, but like, I kind of like when
they had a crush, yes. The fuck is wrong with you?
I thought it was fucking cool, man.
This big fucking Jack dude like with the long fucking hair and
like. Jack me off, dude, you know?
Sometimes Axe isn't going to wrestle though.
They're smash and crush and you know, that's how we get the LOD

(02:01:58):
debut and they pull the fuck in and pull them out from the ring.
It's the hard foundation and you're like, ah fucking God.
I'm a little kid and I don't know what cum is yet, but if I
did it'd be this Sprinkles. Are you trying to bring Buck in?
Hey, let's not forget who's the which Demolition is in
Wrestlefest. Blast no love demolition blast

(02:02:22):
no demolition ass I got. The Dems up there, boys.
So do I. Me too.
I did not have demolition. Really.
I did not. I went with another tag team who
won the titles three times, managed by the Guiding Light.
I went with the Wild Samoans andthe reason for it, not only

(02:02:46):
longevity, not only big stars, not only three time tag team
champions, we don't get fucking Roman Reigns.
We don't get the USO like we we don't get, we don't get
Yokozuna, we don't get rikishi like we don't get none of that
shit without these. Big motherfuckers.
The Rock, Yeah. They did it for the Rock

(02:03:10):
contribution, Samoa Joe. I mean, look, I may be a man on
an island here, but you know, credit where it's due, while
Samoans were a big fucking deal.I can't argue what.
I mean, I'm OK with them not going in first class, but I

(02:03:30):
figured they might, you know, might be in consideration.
I also have another tag team that I don't know if anybody
else has these guys on their list either.
I got one more too. So what do you got?
My list is. My list is already tapped.
Hello. I know you double T, you're
tapped as well. No, I got one more because I had
the Road Warriors, I had the demos and I have the Steiner

(02:03:51):
brothers. That's who I got Steiners if
Rondo does not have the Steinersreally fucking damn before the.
Steiners was who I was. I was between them and Lod on my
list. That was that was the that was
kind of the which way to go typeof a thing because I really, I
really thought hard about the the Steiners.

(02:04:13):
But again, if you're just, if you're being, if you're being
honest, it's, it's obviously LODover the Steiners.
I mean pioneers, especially whatScott was doing.
Yeah. He was a fucking man.
He we're lucky he didn't fuckingmurder people for like legit the
shit that he would do. We're.
Lucky he didn't murder himself with that fucking fall away slam

(02:04:36):
that he would do. The standing fall away slam
always landed on his head. Explains a lot.
Just didn't give a fuck man. And also, like, you think like
on the heat, like 89, like we'rewatching the Road Warriors and
like, doom. And then like, here comes
fucking Rick, fresh out of the Varsity Club.
Scott shows up, he's yoked to the fucking gills and he's doing

(02:04:58):
fucking Steiner screwdrivers, Frankensteiner shit you did not
expect to see out of a guy that size.
Like, And then of course, you know, fucking theme song.
Come on. Yeah.
And they were fucking good. They were so fucking good.
So yeah, I had the signers on mylist.
I think I know who Brendo had onhis list.

(02:05:19):
You want to say all right. Shoot against the free birds.
Nope. Wow.
I had the Bulldogs, so, you know, big run in Canada, big run
in Japan, a big part of WWE in the beginning I felt they were,
you know, for when I thought about tag teams that the felt

(02:05:40):
they were, you know, innovators and everything so.
That's that's not a bad pick. I I like the pick.
I just don't know if they're first round.
I mean, I don't know, you know, like if I had to kick a.
If I had to kick A-Team off for LOD it would have been them,
but. Why?

(02:06:01):
So we're at an impasse here, boys.
No, not. Necessarily, I think, I think we
work our way through this. Well, yeah.
I think we work our way through this.
I mean, look, Rd. Warriors got three votes.
I did not vote for them, but I'mcompletely on board with the
Road Warriors going into the Hall of Fame first round all.
Right. Who are your 3 Tony?
The Road Warriors, the Wild Samoans and the Steiners.

(02:06:24):
OK. Tony, you just said twice that
you. You didn't have the Road
Warriors. Did you mean demolition?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, my. Bad dudlings.
No, I'm fucking confused. I'm old, leave me alone.
OK, all right. So you had.
Three of us had that's the threeof us had the road warriors.
Yes, and me and you had the Steiners.

(02:06:48):
And you guys all had demolition?Yep, all right.
So I mean, I would think that the Road Warriors and
demolition, unless somebody wants to argue against them, I
think those two are going in. Yeah, I'm with you on that one.
OK, I'm good there. HK good.
Yeah, yeah, I'm OK with that. All right, so we got the Road

(02:07:10):
Warriors and we got Demolition. The only team left that got 2
votes was the Steiners. So nuts to the other teams that
only got 1 vote. I don't know if I think it's
hard to. It's hard to sell short the
Dudley Boys. No, I get it.

(02:07:30):
But if we're, I mean like, do you want to put up A1 vote team
as a possible entry? I mean like 2 you can make an
argument 2 like you got a basis to stand on, but one, not saying
any of these teams don't deserveto be in the Hall of Fame.
I just don't know if the one vote teams, you know, I don't
know if it's there for them thistime around, but I'm open.

(02:07:54):
I'm open to suggestions, I'm open to conversation.
How, How? Let me ask you this How long was
the Deadly Boys run as a as a team?
How long was their run? What'd they start like 96 Bubba
and Devon together? Yeah, because they were on that
first pay-per-view. Well they were already tag

(02:08:16):
champs at that point. Oh, that's true.
Yeah. They were champs.
It was it was 96 because Kyle Kyle covered it in his last
season, right? Or no, No.
Yeah, he he recently covered it.That George does Dudley's I
think should be in how long was their run they.

(02:08:38):
Were tag team from 96 to 2000 inEC www.fthen2000. 2005 in WWF as
the Dudley Boys 2013, 2015 they were TNA. 2006 they were Team
3D. They had a big run in 20/15/2016

(02:09:01):
with WWE. So and, and, and the reason why
I ask this because we, we all said, you know, demolition, you
know, no brainer in they don't have the, the amount of titles
nor the amount of longevity. So there should be some
consideration into that because take teams don't generally last
as long as the Dudley's have andthe obviously the amount of

(02:09:24):
titles. So I think there is something to
be said for that. Ben Scott Rich that they should
be in. Yeah, but three of you guys
picked demolition. Like, you know, we can't sell
that short either. Like 3 of you put thought enough
into saying like these guys belong in the first class of the
Hall of Fame. Well, but.
Brendo didn't even think of the Road Warriors, so we got to
consider that and that that whole aspect too.

(02:09:45):
Brendo was worried about tapiocaon his head.
That's right. Fucking Justin chiming in
overweight Larry for the Hall ofFame.
Get out of here with that. Yeah, I meant Demolition, like
as A tag team, like they were fucking champions for a very,

(02:10:06):
very long time. Like, you know, their their one
rain blows The Dudley Boys, WWF and ECW Reigns combined out of
the water. Yeah.
And they set the record at the time for the longest tag team
run in WWE. But how long was their run as a

(02:10:28):
team? I mean, that was part of the
that was part of the equation. And that that I mean, as far as
I'm concerned, that was part of why I think, you know, in my
mind, they deserve again, Scott George has 22 titles.
Look how long that long haul they work.
Look how long they work togetheras a team.
I think, I think when you think tag team wrestling, I think

(02:10:49):
there's a big population that says yes, the Dudley Boys are
tag team wrestling. Yeah, but you got to, you also
got to think too. Axe going into that was already
like nearing the end of his career.
I mean, he might have been, but he's still.
He's still, he's still part of that team though, you know what
I mean? Whether he was at the beginning

(02:11:09):
of his career or the end of his career, he's still part of that
team and we're looking at the team.
They just signed a Legends deal.87 to 91 they were together.
They did a lot in those four fucking years, dude.
Yeah, they did. They've done a couple of
comebacks, too. Yeah.
Oh. Yeah, that mean?

(02:11:31):
What's the fuck Hakeem One man gang?
So they were. Their first title reign was 478
days. They lost to the Brain Busters,
not the colossal connection the first time.
Three of us had demolition three.

(02:11:54):
That means that it that demolition meant something to at
least three of us, and definitely to me.
But they didn't make my list. I don't see how you argue
against them. I just don't.
I'm not necessarily arguing against demolition, I'm just I'm
arguing for them. Yeah, you're bolstering the
Dudleys. I get it.
Yeah. But the Dudleys for this round?
Kind of an afterthought, honestly.

(02:12:15):
Oh, absolutely not an afterthought.
Fairness, they were. Only one of us took the Dudley
boys. LLB was an afterthought for
Brundle fly. No, that was a brain fart.
That was a brain fart. Just so you know, the one title
reign of the British Bulldogs surpassed all eight of the

(02:12:37):
Dudley Boy WWF title. Reign in terms of length, just.
So you know. Yeah, that's fine.
OK also the wild Samoans 3 reigns were longer than the
Dudleys. Yeah, that's fine.
Is there A tag team that has more longevity?

(02:13:00):
That we knew. No.
Rock'n'roll Express. Yeah, still active and that's
why they're not on the that we can't.
Longevity, yeah, but they're noton the they're not on the list
here. Boom.
They're still. They're still.
Well, they were until that crooked eyed fuck decided to
make a comeback. So you're so HK and I get where

(02:13:21):
you're coming from. The just so people are clear,
you're basing it on the your your vote is their longevity and
their accolades. Longevity and accolades, Yeah,
yeah. And I think, I mean, look at
their body of work too, you knowwhat I mean?
When when the tag team division was kind of revitalized was when
they entered the picture with obviously with the Dudleys, with

(02:13:42):
Edge and Christian. But the taping division prior to
them showing up in WWE was, was not revitalized whatsoever.
So there's a lot of contributionthere as well.
Yeah, I don't know. It's I don't I, I don't
personally care for the Dudley boys, but I recognize their
accomplishments and their accolades.

(02:14:05):
I mean, I don't personally care for LOD but I had to put them on
the list. I can think of A tag team that
isn't eligible yet but will be in a year or two that has more
longevities. It's the Briscoe brothers.
Even when Jay was world championthey were still teaming, and
that's more than 20 years I would say, because I believe

(02:14:30):
they started in either 98 or 99.They were tag teaming up until
Jay died in 2021 and that's the only other one.
The Steiner brothers were 10, you know, 88 to 98 as A tag team
before Scott went NWO. But they also did reunions.

(02:14:58):
They were in TNA as A tag team. Yep.
Oh, it's a tough one, boys. We got to make a decision.
Don't yell at me because the show's going long.
We haven't even done the singlesguys yet.
I'm going Warriors Demolition and the Steiners.
Man, I as much as it irks me to say it, I got to go with HK and

(02:15:19):
go with the Dudleys for that last spot with the Warriors and
the demos. Yeah, Warriors, Dems and Dudleys
is. That's why I just want to make a
decision so Brundo could be, youknow, in this, this.
Unnamed. Oh, you got?
Brundo, Steiners or Dudleys. I'm going to go dudleys.

(02:15:40):
I feel like they had the longer reigns, the longer together
guys. Fuck that, Because even if an.
Asshole nominates them and they fucking.
Win. In the middle of their.
Run. You know Scott's fucking Scott
has the TV title. Run in the mid, right in the
middle. So consistent.

(02:16:00):
Whatever, it is what it is. Fucking hand jobs.
So we got the Road Warriors, theDeadly Boys and Demolition.
To be fair, all all three teams deserving to be first ballot.
Well, everybody would just be in.
No, we're not fucking Dave Meltzer.
Not everybody deserves. No, I'm not.

(02:16:21):
That's why the first class will not be fucking 86 people.
All right, singles, this is good.
Icky here, I bet. Yeah, so fucking hope you pack
the sandwich. Fucking Duke.
It's going to be a while. Who wants to go first?
Oh God, can I just Hulk Hogan? Yeah, Hogan.

(02:16:42):
Yep. Brundo.
Yep. Hogan.
We're doing what 6 right was thewas our.
We set up yeah, we, we each havesix.
We said we could possibly put upto 8 in, so we don't have to put
8. Let's.
Right. No, I understand.
I understand. All right, so Hulk Hogan got him
somebody. Else HK who you got?

(02:17:04):
Well, there's one Ki think we all know it's Bobby Backs.
Nobody else has Bobby backs. I don't have him.
Nope. What the fuck?

(02:17:26):
What the fuck? You're right, Tony.
This is a fucking sham. This is a fucking sham. 2135
days and none of you assholes put them on your list.
Nope. Carried the fucking company you
motherfuckers. It's a sham, the whole you
crybaby. You're a crybaby.

(02:17:50):
I I. Know who I'm going to pick, but
I'm going to take the obvious. I'm going Ric Flair.
Yeah, Ric. Flair's on my list right after
Bobby Backs. Yeah, I also had Ric Flair.
All right, Ric Flair's. In one second here I got to
address something. Oh boy.
Fucking. Tropic.
Al says according to HK Title, longevity is not important.

(02:18:13):
That was what I was. Fuck you, mother.
Fuck you, mother fuck, I got words for you, Tropic Ale.
Using No, I don't know. I don't know who this Al guy is,
but I like him. Can I make a suggestion just as
a as a? Yeah, what do you?
Got As a viewer who watched the show last week, when you pull up
the the comments you should leave them up there.

(02:18:33):
For just a tad. No, not for that asshole.
Well, no, not. I'm not saying just Al in
particular, but like some peoplejust pull this really quick and
then you like. Not for that asshole, can we?
Yeah. Is that for your consideration?
Just, you know, someone who is watching, I would like to see,
you know, you just kind of blow.She likes to.
She likes to spin shit on me that HK likes to blow

(02:18:54):
everything. You could have now look to be
fair, you also could have pickedany other comment just to put up
on the screen to use an example,but you went to al so.
All right there. Oh, my wife wants to know.
Oh boy. What Tony say about me on the
podcast. Wow, no.

(02:19:20):
I didn't say that that was Jersey count, Justine.
I said nothing but good things. Yeah, I, I said.
Tell her again. I I will tell her again if I was
really smart, tell her she has to listen, but she's not
listening, so. No, she don't give a fuck about
this. No, but she does.

(02:19:42):
She's probably curious to know what you had to say.
I said. She's one of my favorite people
in the world. She really is.
Isolate that. All right, So we got the
Hulkster, we got Ric Flair. Bobby B is on the bubble.
The Bobby B bubble. Hey, that's Triple B.
Brenda, who you got? Steve Austin.

(02:20:04):
I got him. Nope.
Really the biggest fucking moneydraw in the business.
That was one of the things I thought about Brendo.
That's one of the things I thought about a little bit of a
shooting star there so far of his big time career.
Yeah, what longevity did that asshole have?
Go back and look at his time frame.

(02:20:26):
Wow. I mean seriously, take a look at
it. Double T bring us another one.
Andre the Giant. Got him, got him.
Fucking hey dude. I went with the the, that was
the safe one because I know things are going to get nasty in
a few minutes. So on name calling and

(02:20:48):
motherfucking and you know, go ahead HK, tell us Larry's
Abisko's on your fucking list. What an asshole.
I love Larry's Abisko. Dusty Rhodes, you out of your
fucking mind. You're out of your fucking mind.
Not Dusty Rhodes. Not dusty.

(02:21:11):
Not Dusty, right? Not for the career or the
fucking contributions. Nothing.
Or the splotch, you fucking guys.
I mean you could use the wild Samoans argument that Tony made.
He gave he fathered gold dust and Cody.
He also did. That.
Yeah, it didn't get me anywhere with the Samoans.

(02:21:31):
Look at the. Fucking body at work and then
again after his in career was his ring career was over, he's
still contributing. Was Andre Andre?
No, because he was dead. Yeah, Andre contributed an awful
lot to the business since the 60s.
Bro. Come your tits.
Well, starts at the 70s. How many fucking battle Royals

(02:21:52):
did you win? Enough.
None, you fucking. Gym teachers throwing them out
every time. Well, I'm not.
I'm not retired. Losing the gym, teachers and
trumpets. What are we doing here?
Yeah, you're fucked. Some purple shoes and you're
saved by the bell outfit. Hey.
You motherfucks. But this was.
In that outfit, Hey, let's do a choreographed dance, HK.

(02:22:12):
Yeah, why don't we? And he made you stand out of the
ring to do it. Fucking Petey hates you bro.
Petey fucking loves me. This is going to piss off Double
T, but I'm going Shawn Michaels.All righty Shawn Michaels over

(02:22:33):
fucking Bobby B and Dusty. Yeah, 'cause Shawn Michaels is
still doing things in the business.
Well, Dusty fucking can't. Shawn Michaels was tag team
champion. Shawn Michaels, the heartbreak
Kid. Shawn Michaels had
Intercontinental titles, world titles.
He came back after hurting his back after seven years and won
titles again. The X Suck it, suck it, suck it.

(02:22:55):
Come on. Like Shawn?
Michaels just fine, but if you're going to.
Put Shawn up. Or Dusty.
I'm just, I don't. Well, then you're not going to
like my last two guys. Anyway, but at the same.
Time if I can use the dusty argument.
He has contributed a lot behind the scene since his in ring
career has been over. Yeah.
Yeah, and he wrestles for that blood Dick money or whatever.
That's good money. The Dick blood Dick Dick blood

(02:23:19):
on anybody's list. Brundo.
Who you got? I got Terry Funk.
The fact that he got 2 fucking votes annoys me.
What Terry Funk's one of the greatest of all time.
Oh yeah, Dusty's just a bitch onthe side of the road.
Dusty was always Dusty. Terry Funk reinvented himself,

(02:23:40):
didn't join the shitty NWO. No.
He wrestled fucking Ryan Knobs hardcore Dusty Rose doing
fucking moonsaults Wrestling, no.
He didn't do. He didn't.
Do moonsaults once you go watch some more AEW.
Wait, Scott, George brings up four years and five months?

(02:24:01):
Yeah, but the rule is like 5 years.
You have to have at least three matches in a calendar year for
that to count. So I think Sean was covered even
though he's not getting. Any he just had the 1 and that
was it. Yeah, like his eye.
Still 2 separate ones. They're getting close, but all
right. Huh.

(02:24:23):
Who's up next? Double T you want.
Me to go. Yeah, I might as well.
Macho Man Randy Savage? Really.
Yep. All right.
Nobody had the Macho Man. Interesting.
Well, you had the macho man. I thought about the macho man.
Thought about how great Elizabeth was as his manager.
Nope, that's why he didn't make the list the possible.

(02:24:45):
Family ICW, outlaw wrestling going against Lawler, then he
comes into the WWF. That's the best argument I've
heard from one of these like oneand two vote guys yet makes
sense. Didn't take them though.
HK who you got? The Undertaker.

(02:25:12):
My God, man, what constitutes what constitutes first round
pick to this guy? Jesus Undertaker, he's fucking
dead. Dong so is dusty Dong.
Oh, wait. As Jesse would say, woof woof,
do that. Alright, Scott, George, I see

(02:25:39):
you. I got, I got you brother.
We're good. He was talking about Sean being
out for like 5 years. That's what he meant.
Is he coming back? Does he have like a?
Oh, I can't wait to see who elseis on his list.
Do. You want to make a case for him
like he didn't break character until like 3 years ago.
You know he. He was at the top of the card
for the. Biggest.

(02:25:59):
Company in the world for how many fucking years?
Did you hear Matt a couple of memorable matches?
Are you out of your fucking mind?
So was fucking Terry Funk for fucking 20 years every place he
went. Made a match champion.
ECW Champion Champion. Biggest company for how many

(02:26:19):
years? At the top.
Fucking amazing. I'm so glad we decided to do
this. This is awesome.
What? Are your top three Undertaker
matches? Shawn Michaels, Shawn Michaels,
Triple H. That giant, Gonzalez Russell,
what are you doing? King Kong.
I like that match. Not a lot of people like that
match. I like.
That Mabel casket match. Oh, Yoko.

(02:26:41):
Yoko casket match. Kamala casket match.
The Warrior. Casket match because he's super.
No, no. Shit, you see that what he shot
here? Stop, I'm going to fucking blow
my nose. It's.
Coming out of my nose is. It because he is the height of
three of you. What is?

(02:27:04):
Him and Duke used to try to buy alcohol when they were kids,
like they used to dress up like the undertaker at the liquor
store. Did you mean to pick the
underfaker? Yeah, I meant to put the
underfaker. Listen to you listen to this.
Fucking guy. Oh God, I think, I think.
The part of it is your reaction when nobody else has this person
on the list. I just don't understand the

(02:27:26):
fucking mindset the guys. Were that's three names you had
that nobody else had. That's what I'm fucking saying.
It's fucking insanity. This is 40 years, 50 years, so
many huge names, and we're only doing 8.
Of course people are going to beleft off.
We might not even make 8 at thispoint.
We might just fucking have the ones.
Yeah, no, we had. We had. 8 but I don't know.

(02:27:49):
I don't even think we're getting6, dude.
I'll go again. I'll do this one for Matt.
I got Bret Hart on here. I also have the hitman.
Oh, I got three of them. And you're like that fuck face.

(02:28:16):
Oh my God, like fucking scannershis head is.
Going to explode. I don't understand how you can
put. Bret Hart.
Ahead of The Undertaker. I don't get it.
And I love, I fucking love Bret Hart.
I love him. Bret Hart with the Dynamite Kid

(02:28:38):
brought a style that was in Stampede wrestling to the WWF
that revitalized the tag team scene.
His. Career is from the 70s to like
98. Like what the?
Fuck, he took his headphones off.
I don't even know if he can hearus.
Multiple World Championships, multiple tag team championships,
Intercontinental US Like the fucking.
Guy bigger didn't win fucking nothing.

(02:29:00):
No, but Bret Hart told A. Way better fucking story than
the Undertaker. Did The Undertaker also beat
Taker? I'm a slam.
You beat Austin at Mania. The undertaker just sits up.
He just sits up. Beat Undertaker at in your
house. Superpowers are in the urn.
Melt it down. Comma what?

(02:29:22):
Fucking H KS going to have a fucking stroke.
What, are you going to hit me with a mean Mark Callaway, Texas
red eat a shit. The Punisher Eat.
A shit Oh my gosh, stop. I'm going to fucking die.
CDP stalked his wife. Oh no, he.

(02:29:42):
Shaved his head to that. He shaved his head to that
Johnny Cash song 10 years ago. Hey, I like the cinematic match
with a. Gentle.
Motherfucker. Brett.
What? He's miserable?
That's nothing to do. He's a.
Miserable bitch. And you know his his actual top
of the card run was what, 94 to when?

(02:30:05):
98, yeah, probably 92. Yeah, you're right.
Yeah. 9292 that's just in WWE you could make a case he was
close to the top you. Can't make a case for shit he
didn't WCW. It's like he dude, he just
forgot to duck the kick. I can't, I can't defend the WCW

(02:30:25):
stuff. I think it's horrendous.
I mean, he did have two world titles there in the US title and
the tag titles were. Goldberg.
I mean, fucking Vince Russo. Bro.
David, our kit. All right, who else we got?
Brenda? You got anybody left on your
list? I got 2 names left on my list.
Who you got? Please make me a happy man.
What the fuck was that? Well, see you later.

(02:30:49):
He looks like Carl Batana. That's.
How much of a big of a fan he isof the Undertaker?
What the fuck did you dude? He wasn't creepy bro.
This is a fucking nightmare fuel.
What the fuck is that? That's what happens when you
don't agree with the Undertaker.It's supernatural shit.
Yeah, hold on, hold on. The thing I want to say.

(02:31:10):
No, no, no. Here, Polaka, watch.
Wait. Yeah, fucking here we go.
He lost power. No fucking way did he.
There it is. There's a creepy little head.
Tell him to text us what he had all.
Right, Text us what you had. Jesus Christ, I can't believe.

(02:31:34):
Hey, what's up everybody? Welcome to the Breitbart fan
club. Hey, can Brendo get on his fuck?
Can Brendo get on his cell phoneand join us again?
Wait, do we lose HK? Oh, HK is moving.
Well, I in order to keep the show moving, I can tell you my
last person, I guarantee you nobody else is going to have

(02:31:55):
him. I I went with Bruno.
I think Bruno deserves a spot. Yeah, yeah, I had.
Bruno on my list. Fuck yes, dude.
Thank you, thank you, thank you,thank you, thank you, 4040 baby.
Brundo text us his last two as well, he had Harley Race and
Nick Buckwinkle. I had neither.

(02:32:18):
They're not bad picks, but I hadn't either.
No. I would think race before
Bockwinkle, but I don't. I don't hate Bockwinkle, I just
don't. First round?
No hardly. You can make a better argument,
but I just don't agree with thatone either.
Look, I had Bruno. I had Bruno on the list.
You know, he had the championship for a very, very
long time. He was pivotal and you know,

(02:32:40):
making he made Billy star superstar Billy Graham.
I mean, that's a huge to to agree to, to let Billy Graham
beat you. I but on top of that dude like
even like the majority of his first run, if you have to
disqualify most of it because itwas in the 60s, but from 70
forward two runs at the top likethat's that's like insanity for

(02:33:02):
the amount. Of time you did out the garden.
Every single time he was there even.
I mean, we watched that homeworkwith him and Tito in the cage
against Savage and Adonis. The place went fucking nuts for
him. Nuts.
He was a huge fucking draw. HK might not get any fucking
sleep tonight. I'm very interested to see who's

(02:33:25):
on on HK's list the. Rest is no, I think he's done.
Are you done? Yeah, 'cause he had Hogan,
Flair, Andre, and then he had Backlund, A Dusty and Taker.
All right, so you all agree on Hogan, Flair, Andre?
Yeah. So those guys are those guys are
in. We had me and Brendo each had

(02:33:50):
Austin. Yeah, there's two for Austin, 2
for Terry Funk, 2 for Bruno. Then we had one you had.
You had Brett. No, bro.
Oh, Brett had three. That's right, Brett had three.
Brendo had Brett. Yes.
So we've got we've got Brett at 3 and we've got Austin, Terry

(02:34:11):
Funk and Sammartino. At 2:00.
Brenda texted us the list. This is sad.
Can. You can you Oh, it's the names
of the show. Oh my God.
Dude, join us. See if you could join us on your
phone, dude. Tell him we'll send him the code

(02:34:33):
when it comes in, yeah. But does he have Wi-Fi?
Yeah, but he doesn't. He doesn't need Wi-Fi.
He could use his phone. It doesn't matter.
We could. We could.
I like fested by Jimmy Hart. No, don't.
Come on, don't read that. Now that's for, that's for us.
Now we can, but this can go a couple different ways.

(02:34:53):
We can just put in those three guys and let the chips fall
where they may when the ballot comes out later in the year.
I mean, I would think we at least have to argue Bret Hart.

(02:35:13):
Did he fucking leave? Did he leave?
He left. No, he didn't.
What the fuck is going on? Here did.
This ruin the show. Is the show over?
I don't know what happened. No, he's coming back.

(02:35:34):
Bro what the fuck? What is going?
What happened? This is oh, sorry.
I think there's something with stream Eric is when when they
updated the shit was it last? Did that last week as well.
We legit thought that you left because you were angry.
No, Kyle, I wouldn't do that. I would do that.
I love Vince too much. I wouldn't do that.

(02:36:00):
I, I think that, I mean, there'sguys that were off the list that
I, I think should have at least gotten consideration.
I think Andre's a no brainer. Hulkster's obviously a no
brainer flair to me is, is 100% a no brainer.
I think Bruno and Backlund are both no brainers.

(02:36:21):
Like those, those are the guys to me that I don't think there's
this, there's there's any doubt that those guys are first ballot
Hall of Fame guys. Do you worry now that if we put
those into population for votingin the full in in you know in
December that there's a chance they don't make the.

(02:36:42):
List yes yeah a hundred 100% especially for Bobby BI think.
I kind of. Yeah, because I think that his
his contributions are already overlooked.
And if you leave it to the general population to go, OK,
well, you know, I think too manypeople just are looking at his,

(02:37:02):
his, his, his second run in WWE.And I think that I think Bobby
Backman's a no brainer, Bruno's a no brainer, Andre's a no
brainer, Hoaxster's a no brainer, and Flair's a no
brainer. I think those are those are
those are easy, easy ends. Matt, what do you think?
You think we make an argument for Brett Hart and then cut
everybody else? I mean, I think answer Kevin has

(02:37:23):
a lot of. Oh he did.
Valid points of sure for sure. But I want to know what your
thought is about moving forward.I feel.
We had it where we could put up to 8 people in.
Yeah, I know. I have.
To put 8 but. Right, I know we don't have to
put 8 man Andre Flair Hogan there.

(02:37:51):
Those are locks. Those are and then what we're
we're down to a Bruno Backlund and.
Well, no. You've got hard at 3.
Bruno's got 2 votes, Austin's got 2.
Terry Funks got 2. Shawn Michaels, Bob Backlund,
Dusty Rhodes, Randy Savage, Undertaker all have all have one
vote. Let me look at.

(02:38:18):
The Bob, the Bobby back on here.I mean, if you look at again, if
you're going back to longevity, Bobby B was champion 2135 days.
That's got to fucking count for something.
Double T. We were talking demolition.
You were comparing. You're comparing.
So many other. Tag teams.

(02:38:40):
But then also like, you'd have to apply that to Bruno as well.
I think Bruno's in. Yeah, Bruno.
Bruno had a better showing than Bobby.
So Bobby's and I would say Bruno's in too.
Look, and I'm all for Bobby being in, like Bobby gets my
vote if that's what we're doing.I just want to make sure like
this is what we're going to do. Yeah, I mean.

(02:39:02):
I mean, I can tell you right now, Shawn Michaels, I don't
need to put him in. You know, like I look at Dusty.
Well, actually, I look at Savage, I look at Taker.
I don't need to put them in. I don't think they qualify as
first rounders. They qualify as Hall of Farmers
for sure. I don't think first rounders.
You could maybe make an argumentfor Dusty Terry Austin for sure.

(02:39:27):
But I don't know what I mean. It comes down to like what what
we're doing with like Bruno, Bobby, Brett, the the bees.
This is what we're going to do. Look, I don't care, but you
know. All right.
Bruno, yes. I think I vote yes on Bruno.

(02:39:47):
Bruno was the face of the WWF until we got to Bob Back.
Is that fair? From Buddy Rogers to Bruno, that
was it. Even in, in even in defeat.
Bruno at the time was a name youassociated with the www.f WWF.
It was Bruno Sammartino. Yeah.

(02:40:10):
Right. He sold out the garden every
fucking month. And even when things were tough
with Pedro, they would always bring Bruno back.
So I think we give it, we get Bruno in there.
I think there's a very good casefor Bobby B 2000 days as the

(02:40:30):
champion. He had to fill the shoes of
Bruno Sammartino, which is not an easy thing to do, but there
was enough trust sought in him and clearly he did well at the
box office if you keep the titleon him for 2000 days.
And he had a hell of a second run, a run that nobody thought
he would have had. Right, who wants to be 6 man war

(02:40:53):
tag team champions with Scott Pusky and the Warlord?
I don't. I was talking more about his
like WWE Championship win and you know, but yeah, we can count
war. Six man tag team champions.
Who would have put that on the fucking list?
The his reinvention, when he comes back, you know, in the way

(02:41:15):
they like treated him. Brendan Brendo.
Yeah, we got we got his vote on Bruno.
On Bruno, Yeah. Get on the floor, Bruno.
You're always in the dark. Duh.
Yeah. He said that's OK.
Hey, Brundo, since you're playing along, what do you think
of Bobby Backlund? I'm good with Bobby going in.
I am OK with it too, even thoughI enjoyed watching.

(02:41:36):
Fucking handsome. Kevin Oh lose his fucking mind.
It was the greatest thing ever. Bret Hart three out of four
votes. You know where I you know where
I stand on the hitman. I mean a lot longer career than
people even think of tag team. Run Heart Foundation, both as A

(02:41:57):
tag team and a fucking stable. Canada, Yeah.
USA Boo. Like this was some big shit.
Feud with Owen, Feud with Austin, feud with Michaels.
Stuff he was doing Dynamite Kid before they came to the States.
Yeah, first ever ladder match, According to him.

(02:42:19):
We know that's not true. Well, but you know.
We're not saying he doesn't tella tall tale from time to time.
Heart Foundation, I think the the we're just trying to to turn
handsome Kevin here. No, I'm not So and and and I'm a
big Bret Hart guy and you guys know that I just I look at it

(02:42:43):
like like side by side careers, right?
And when you, when you stack up like and I'm going to go back to
him instead. I'm not making an argument for
one over the other, but if you stack up side by side careers,
you stack up Undertaker and BretHart.
Like again, Taker was at or nearthe top of the card, one of the

(02:43:06):
top draws for the biggest company in the world for a much
longer period of time. And you know what I mean?
I'm not saying like in the ring,would I rather watch Bret Hart?
Of course I would. But it's not just in the ring,
you know what I mean? It's it's it's all of what what
the body of work is. I am 100% OK with with Bret
Hart, but I'm just looking at stacking the two careers against

(02:43:27):
one another. Thoughts.
Double TI. Don't know man.
I I agree with HP. Yeah, you can't take away from
his longevity and the fact that he was at the top of the card
for a long for as long as he wasthere.

(02:43:50):
I just, I don't know. The stuff with Kane doesn't do
anything for me. The later stuff like those last
couple Wrestlemanias with TripleH are rough.
I get it, but you could also argue fucking Jerry Lawler.
Kiss my foot. Yeah.
Jerry Lawler and his Knights. Isaac Yankum, Jean Pierre

(02:44:12):
Lafitte fusing over the water jacket.
NWO Elite. Yeah, I mean, come on, we we
could shit on bread a little bittoo.
Oh of course you can. That's the real easy to do when
he came back. Stupid fucking match at
WrestleMania against Vince McMahon.
Bottom line, like Brett got three votes, Undertaker got one.

(02:44:33):
If I'm picking one over the other at this point, I'm going
Brett. I think Taker just goes in
general population for December.I ain't worried about Taker.
Taker will get in. I ain't worried about Savage.
I ain't worried about Terry. Funker does.
I don't. Worry about Brett either,
really. But Brett got three votes.
Yeah, I get it. Oh, votes don't mean anything?

(02:44:55):
Apparently not, because the Steiners had two votes and they
didn't get in. The fucking Dudley Boys had one
vote and they're in the fucking Hall of Fame.
What the fuck do I know? All right.
So we got all right, we got to do this speed round.
It's almost fucking 10:00. I'm tired.
This is way past HK in my bedtimes.
All right, I say. Thumbs up for Brett.

(02:45:16):
I say thumbs up for Brett. Yeah, no, I'm like I said, I'm
I'm all for them getting in. And we're saying no, and we're
saying no to Sean, right? Yes.
OK. I think Sean goes Gen.
Gen. pop. Yep, nude Gen.
Pop nude Gen. pop. Dusty goes Dusty goes General

(02:45:37):
population I. Think so.
Savage Taker. Yeah, I look, I think they'll
have their day in the sun. Yeah, 100%, no doubt.
Well, that leaves us two names left.
Terry Funk, Steve Austin, both had two votes.
We've got 6 in there right now. I mean, look, you can the Terry

(02:46:01):
Funk, you can make the longevityargument.
You know, he reinvented himself.He was doing things that you
know 50 year old man shouldn't do when he was start doing
fucking the Moonsauce. You know, he's part of the J Tax
Corp. He's does the stuff with Ric

(02:46:23):
Flair. Putting a bag over his head.
The bag over his head, the stuffwith the ECW.
Like the stuff with the ECW is huge.
Even his run in WWF. He lost the Moon Dog spot in the
Wrestling Classic. You know, and he was even in
fucking WCW in two thousand 2001.
Some crowbar, you know, by a horse.
At at a time when there was suchan intense war between the WWF

(02:46:48):
and WCW, they managed to put those things aside and send WWF
and WCW wrestlers to his retirement match to wrestle each
other, which is, you know, something that wasn't happening
at the time. You know, you could make an
argument that maybe him and Doryshould have been A tag team that
we put in. Were they A tag team in the 70s

(02:47:11):
though? Like.
I watched the I've been watchinga ton of their stuff in New
Japan. They're fucking feud with with
Abdullah and the original Sheik.That's true.
They did have they did have quite a run in Japan.
They won the All Japan Tag Tournament 7779 and 82.
If it was, if it was between Funker and Austin, I would

(02:47:35):
probably I would probably pull Funker to go in just because
body body of work and longevity.Because I mean, Austin was the
absolute biggest star in wrestling, biggest draw, most
merch sales, all that kind of still moving merge, but he had a
a slow rise shot to the top. But his time at the top was was

(02:48:02):
not very long, you know what I mean, considering.
So if it was, if you're looking at is it Austin or is it funk?
In my mind it kind of has to be funk, even though I think you
know Austin's super observing aswell and he'll get in.
Yeah, but I think at the end of the day, we'd asked as much as I
just made a case for Terry Funk.Like I'd put Austin in before

(02:48:25):
Terry Funk, like the hottest wrestling has ever been.
And he is the guy at the he's onthe TV Guide, he's on all these
fucking USA shows. He's everywhere.
Like Austin 316 shirts are at like those bootleg boutiques at
the mall, like and they're and everybody's fucking buying them

(02:48:45):
like. Yeah, that's fair.
I say yay to Austin. I'm torn on Terry Funk, but I
I'm not choosing one over the other.
But if you guys want to bolster Terry Funk, that's fine.
But I am definitely in on Austin.
Yeah, I think it's got to be Austin Celebrity Deathmatch.
He he had a fucking character atthe height of Celebrity

(02:49:06):
Deathmatch. Oh, he did commercials for
Burger King talking about Chris sandwiches.
Like how could you fucking say no to a guy like that?
You don't remember his old podcast?
We like we go to Burger King andget a croissantwich.
Can't give the Noseeum fly stunner the best bits he's ever
done. Oh my God, the fly I forgot

(02:49:29):
about. Yeah.
That was. Fucking amazing.
He was. He was in Celebrity deathmatch.
He was in fucking Nash Bridges, which I never watched, but he
was there. He was in a fucking episode of
the dead fucking Dilbert comedy show, Hollywood Squares, the
Bernie Mac show. Like he was fucking everywhere.

(02:49:50):
He's got their. Redneck Island from 2012 to
2016. God I forgot about.
That super entertaining. Yeah, all.
Right, so Austin's in. Yeah, all.
Right, so then, last but not least, yay or nay on Terry Funk?
I think he's. I think he's one of the greatest

(02:50:11):
wrestlers ever. As you know, as much as I always
fucking shit on them, I'm going to go yes to Terry Funk.
HK Yeah, yeah. I mean, I wouldn't put him in
before Bobby, of course, but yeah.
You always got to fucking go there, dude.

(02:50:33):
Bobby's in. Are you fucking happy?
Can you be happy I'm? Very happy now.
You know what? Then I'm going to make everybody
else happy. I agree.
Terry Funk should go in. We got our eight.
We got Hogan, Bruno, Flair, Brett Hart, Andre, Bobby B,
Stone Cold, and the crazy fucking man from fucking

(02:50:54):
Amarillo, TX. That's Terry Funk, in case you
don't know. That is quite the first class of
the Shining Wizards Hall of Fame.
That was an exercise, yeah. No shit.
Yeah, it was. And you know, we will be can we
will be putting together the ballots and you know, it helps

(02:51:17):
if you're a Patreon, you'd probably get one.
Throw them out there. You know, they'll be coming
towards the end of the year. And I would we say 60 or 70% to
get in. We had it at 60, but we could
play around. Yeah, we'll see.
We'll we'll, we'll iron out all the all the details there.
Brundo, I hope you get your power back soon 'cause it's
fucking. Gross.

(02:51:37):
Hot out dude. And ha ha sucker, Bobby
Backlund's in. Yeah, Bobby, BS in Jimmy.
Jimmy Corderas. Next week he'll be joining us.
We'll have night of champions totalk about.
We'll have updates on our picks.Maybe they'll be more AW talk.

(02:51:58):
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Let's fucking pull this train into the station.
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