Episode 748: No One Really Comes in My House

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Shining Wizards. All right, it is episode 748 of

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the Shining Wizards Podcast. No Matt today, but educates back
from Al Day's lawn. So let's just get right into it.
We got Jimmy Corderas coming up at 7:30.
Night of champions. AW, so much other shit.
So let's get into it with some wrestling talk.
And talk about wrestling. Brundo, Dr. Dunk, Handsome

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Kevin, why are you so angry tonight?
Dude, you're gonna piss tonight.Deal with it.
Can we play? Why is I handsome?
Kevin pissed. Are the shirts too tight?
No, I was going to say his shirts have been a little loose.
Maybe the hat snapped a little too tight, No?
I just, I just just got. This hat, it's a beautiful hat.

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Couldn't be a hat. Maybe the fact that HK is just
turning to people and people arejust turning away from him.
Like Al, like me. Well, these are all alleged by
the way, because AL's a stand upguy.
I would never throw handsome Kevin anywhere except for off
his lawn 'cause he did cry a little bit too much about Bobby
Backlund in the Hall of Fame last week.

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I'm, I'm still on his lawn. I'm not crying about that.
I love Tropicale. I'm maybe I was let down by a
buddy on Sunday. It's OK, you know, maybe, maybe
a friend disappointed me that I never thought would disappoint
me. Maybe that happened.
Maybe that friend is here. Maybe somebody's man strating,
Who knows? Right in that one dog.

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Maybe another buddy disappoint. Maybe.
Maybe another buddy just disappointed me.
Holy. Shit menstruating.
Well, you know what's not going to be disappointing?
Tonight is my last show using the Xfinity Wi-Fi.
I will be shit canning this fucking awful company after
about, oh I don't know, 1718, maybe 20 years, and we are

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moving on to FiOS, baby. Hell yeah, Hell yeah, You know,
2020 years and you've been with the shit company Tony isn't.
I mean at at a certain point, like past like year 4, isn't
that on you? Well, it didn't always it like
most relationships didn't start out shitty.
Everything was great. And then as years went on, you

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know, we're going to take away acouple channels, charge a couple
more bucks. We're going to start charging a
higher rental fees for the equipment, you know.
Hey, there's a problem. Fuck you.
You're not getting a credit. We took some channels away.
You're told that you don't fucking watch those channels to
begin with. Like, you know, you try to
cancel something, you can't do it online.
You try to cancel on the box. The box don't fucking work, you

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know? Taking you for granted, that's
for sure. Exactly.
Yep. You know who didn't take me for
granted? Brundo.
Who was like pal Vince who fucking played some Fortnite
with me over the weekend? What a stand up guy.
That's he. Really is.
Oh, really? He's good to have friends like
that. My birthday buddy, he's not your
birthday. He's my birthday buddy.

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And I messaged, I messaged him and let's see if he messaged me
back. He sure did.
He sent he sent me a gift that it looks like a puppy holding a
heart that just says love. I love you, buddy.
I love my birthday buddy. Vince.
He's never let me down. No, he hasn't.
Every time I've said, hey, I'd like to join, he goes, God, you
better, you better, HK, I'm herefor you, You better.

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Really like a demand. Yeah, better you better.
You bet. I was just going to fucking sing
that. I was taking.
You just stated it and I was going to go sing song with it.
Brenda Fly. Yeah.
Yeah, Yeah. Well.
What do you do? What do you do?
What are you? Are you messaging my birthday
buddy now, Tony, is that what's going on?
No, I'm not paying attention. Oh, OK.
I got you. I don't want to be a wizard

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anymore, either. So how was your weekend?
Aside from not playing Fortnite?Did you have some?
You spent some time away from your best gal, I take it?
Yeah. My my best gal is out.
On out. Well, she's not on the road
anymore. She's at her destination.
She's in North Carolina. So I Friday night we went out to

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my, to me and my best gal to thenumber one spot.
And then I, I dropped her off ata friend's house and they hit
the road 20 hour drive out to North Carolina.
Told her I said maybe she shouldsay hi to, to motherfucker Ted
just to see what's going on. She's not saying hi to
motherfucker Ted. And then they said fucking guy.
And then Saturday, Saturday was a good day, you know, got up,

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got got strutted my miles, got the lawn mowed, went and got a
tattoo. On the way home I said, you know
what, why not stop back at Rancho Loco, have a little
dinner. And while I was there, I met the
owner of Rancho Loco, talked to him for a while, a little sit
down, chatted with him. He fucking showed him my tattoo.
He paid for my ticket and gave me a couple hats, one for me,

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one for the wife, and and SundayI was let down by a good friend
like I've never been let down before.
So All in all, I mean, you take the good with the bad and I had
a pretty solid weekend. Listen, it's not my fault Al
threw you off his fucking lawn, dude.
It was not. I'm not talking about Al right
now. You did cry quite a bit about
Bobby back. Let's call a spade a spade here.
I'm not talking about tropical, all right?

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Me and Tropical have even talkedtoday, right?
That's Did you talk to Duke today?
I've talked to Duke today. I got to tell you, it's not
tropical. It's not Duke.
It's not double T. None of those guys let me down
on Sunday, I'll tell you that. Not my birthday buddy, Vince.
He hasn't let me down. He'd let me down on Sunday.

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Oh, there we go. He did cry.
Did he call Al sobbing today? I still want to be buddies.
I miss your nuts hanging out. No, I've never done that.
Tropicale. Well, when the fucking ogre can

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walk over me and all I got to dois look up.
Talk about a troll under a bridge.
That's Tropicale walking over me.
Holy shit. Give you a little bit of Arabian
goggles while he was up there, You know, Arabian Alabama, You
know what's the difference? Alabama goggles.
They probably had some fucking mud in them.

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That's like brother sister shit.Well, they, they're like Bros.
Yeah, yeah. Tropic.
Tropical. Still a bro for sure.
Fuck yeah. I got questions about some other
some other buddies, if they're still Bros, but that's OK.
Tropical, still a bro. Firm, hard bro.
Well, Jimmy Corderas is joining us tonight.
I guess at some point. He's never, he's never let me

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down either. Interesting Brundle fly.
How was your weekend buddy? How?
How are you doing? It was fucking great.
Saturday was great. Watch some night of Champions.
Yesterday my son had a rock showat a bar with his rock school.
Absolutely fucking killed it. Played duo by Duran Duran on the

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drums, brought the house down and pressed his teachers.
Everybody like I had a tear in my eye.
He was unbelievable. Wait, he.
Played in a bar is Jack Black, his fucking music teacher.
I mean that any place you can get the kids to play so you
know. Take it easy, Buck.
Take it. Easy.

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You don't want to fucking get him started.
Already do. You.
Yeah, no, no. It was like a bar restaurant.
But yeah, he was impressed. Utilized his double bass pedal.
So kids going somewhere. Nice.
Yeah, to a bar. How old is Dad?
How old's this kid? He's 12.

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Just about 13. Gotcha. 1213 playing in the bar.
Playing in the bar. Gotcha.
All right. I mean a lot of other kids.
Yeah, that's a, that's a, that'sa, that's a fast track to a
meeting. Tony, how was your, how was
your, how was your weekend, man?Well, I can tell you when I was
12 years old, I used to hang outin bars too, but I wasn't
playing in a band. My weekend was fine.
My kid got himself a nice pull up bar, so we got that in the

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yard now so he could, do, you know, some more muscle building.
You know, he likes to work out. Didn't watch Night of Champions,
just busy doing all the shit, man.
I was getting ready for for Verizon to get here,
celebrating, you know, my freedom, my impending freedom.
I'll tell you this much. I was using my phone earlier and

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sat down to have dinner. And then I picked the phone up,
realized my protective glass wascracked.
So how the fuck did this happen?Had the phone less than two
weeks. Yeah, I don't.
I don't get it. Well, here, I'll show you this.
The new OtterBox has, like, thiscut out on the side.
See that cut out? And that's exactly where, like,
the glass protector was cracked.And I have no fucking idea how
that happened. Incinopro, man, that's that's

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the one I've gone with for years.
I know somebody that was in a motorcycle crash, phone went
flying and no, no injury to the phone at all.
In Cinepro that's that's the case.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's the case.
No injury to the phone. How was the guy?
Gal actually, she. Was she did?
Oh yeah, she was her. I should have.

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I should have guessed. But the phone was good.
Well, see you later come. Back here if you need me.
Gotta go horny. Horrible, horrible.
Wait, this is out of context. Jersey cow, Jesse says.

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That's awesome. And there it is.
And now? Wait, wrong one.
Not like that Jersey cow, Jesse.Hey, can we get a moment of
silence for women with injured wrists?

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No, no, not for an injured wrist.
Yeah. But I mean, it's, it's
practically like death, you know, takes some out of action
for a little while. No, no.
Oh. This is this is Mrs. Brundo,
isn't she? Hi, guys.
Let's talk wrestling. You know, we'll talk about what
the We'll talk about the fuck wewant to talk all right about.
We'll get there. All right, we'll get there.

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Jesus, Brundle. It just makes me, it just makes
me so proud that my wife couldn't give less of a shit
about this show that she doesn't.
Listen. Looks like we got a new
producer, huh? Fuck.
Yeah, we do. I watched, I watched all kinds
of shit this weekend, man. I don't.
I mean, we got, we got, we got who was a Jimmy K coming in?

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So I don't want to dig, dig too deep into my, my hatred of AEW
or my Yeah, let's do it. We got 18 minutes.
Come on, 18 minutes. So let's fire this shit up.
Brendo, Where do you want to go,man?
Let's go with AEW first. Let's kick it off with some AEW
'cause I fucking loved the last week's Dynamite.
There might have been some shit that wasn't as great, but

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overall enjoyable show to me. Abushi's back, he looked fucking
great for the first time and probably, I don't know, five
years or so. He didn't break both his ankles.
So, you know, when you got a talented guy like that, you hate
to see him hurt all the time. So he's good and he's, you know,
back to healthy. Good for him.

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I feel like I watched something from AEW this week and I got
aggravated again but I forgot. What?
Oh, I know, I know what it was. Oh, was I texting?
The four way. The women's four way.
Oh my God, Yep. The one part that it was like,
all right, everything up to the commercial break was great.
Complete pile of. Dashboards, yeah, just kind of

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fell apart. Slow fucking motion.
Everything was stupid. Everybody had to stand in a
place and get there to line up and.
Wheeler Udah, he sucks. They all suck.
They don't all. Didn't Mina watch her nuts
fucking waddle down the aisle too?
Little Moxley swagger fuck. Them Mina, No, she's not

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involved in this. No, whatever her name is the
the. The the.
Broad came out. What's her name?
Marina. Marina.
Marina Shaffir. There you go.
Yeah, they're not. They're not.
They're not stocking up on Mina's like they've stocked up
on Adams and Kyle's. The more Kyle's the better.
That's. For Oh no Brendo Fly no God,

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that was aggravating to watch. Yep, main event, this is Kyle.
Oh, that was fucking great. I hated.
It that was so much fun the the many chance of Kyle.
This is Kyle. Hey, shout out to the broadcast.
Oh fuck yeah. Hey Al and Tom, we want to get
together and play some Fortnite.Hit me up brother.

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Yeah, he says that, but don't worry, don't worry.
You'll show up and you'll sit there for about an hour.
He, he won't accept the, the, the, the invite request.
It'll be fine. You'll play by yourself.
And then later on, a good friendwill chime in.
He'll be like, hey, you ready toplay?
And then you'll play with a goodfriend.
That's the way it'll go. That's the way it'll go.

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Not speaking from experience or anything.
One thing from AEW that I did enjoy, one thing I did enjoy,
Moxley's promo. Moxley's promo I believe was on
Dynamite. I thought it was a great promo.
Really enjoyed that promo. Outside of that, yeah, throw it
in the shitter. Yeah, Mark Briscoe got a win.
You've been complaining. Oh, this guy never wins.
He got a win. He's number one in the casino

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gauntlet, so best. Chance why?
Why does Adam Page look like he's on fucking crack?
He looks so confused when he fucking wrestles.
He's always look confused. But like, like the the the
mustache and the hair and the like.
He looks like Luigi Primo fucking dialed up to 1000.

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Some may write with that boy. I like the mustache, the hair.
He's southern Primo. I just don't get it.
Like I don't. When AEW first started and they
built him up like against Jericho to be the first
champion, I was like, you know what?
This guy's got something five years later, couldn't give less
of a shit about him. I really can't.

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I just. Don't care, I still I do still
wish they went with Osprey on that.
It feels like Osprey's the most over guy in the company by far
and away it's like why not strapthe rocket?
But we'll see how it plays out. He's got a fucking win though,
because I I can't do the death riders anymore.

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Like no. At this at this point, no more.
At this point, just keep it going.
No. At this point just fucking keep
it going. Make make people fucking hate it
as much as they possibly can. Because then fucking Darby's
going to come flying off the mountain on to Moxley.
No no. And then and then just crush
Darby, get rid of his punk ass and just keep it going.

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Just make people fucking hate it.
They're not hating it enough now.
Just force them to hate it. Keep it going because what?
What do you get out of it? What do you, what do you get out
of it now? Paige wins.
Everybody's happy. Nobody fuck cares about Paige.
Who gives a shit? People care about Paige.
Nobody gives a shit about peoplecare.
I don't. The sickos do.
Fuck the sickos. The sickos absolutely do.

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Yeah, Well, sorry, sorry. Sickos aren't aren't tuning in
in droves outside outside of theMoxley promo, man, there,
there's wasn't much for me this any of this, any of this.
It just was not not for me. You know, I do think I do think
I like Queen. I'm I'm a yeah Amanata.

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Amanata. Yeah, yeah.
I'm a big fan, yeah. Yeah, I think, I think I'm OK
with her. She's she's doing all right.
Yeah, but I just the, the the Kyle versus Kyle match fucking
aggravated me. Loved it.
I hated just the fans with all their, their Kyle chance.
Like who gives a? Like it made me not give a shit
about the match because I was sobothered by the fans.

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Yeah, fans are having fun. Let them have fun.
I. Don't want them to have fun.
I want them to. I want them to care about what's
going on in the ring. That's what I wanted to have
happen. They're chanting Kyle, Kyle,
Kyle. This is Kyle, Kyle versus Kyle,
Kyle fucking Kyle. At that point, nobody's caring
about what's going on inside of the ring.
They're just chanting for Kyle. That's not a good thing for your

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main event. You want them to care about
what's happening in the ring? There were two Kew brother.
Nobody gives, nobody cares. Fuck them, if they gave a shit
about either one of those guys in the ring are the outcome of
the match, they'd be cheering for one or the other.
They did neither of those things.
They made they. Were they were cheering for
Kyle? Yeah, yeah, exactly my point.

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Run to fly. You know exactly what I'm
saying, my man. Who's the shit man?
And everybody wins because Kyle won, right?
Yeah, exactly. Woo.
Nah, it sucks. It sucks.
And then can we, I don't know, can we just agree that this, the
casino gauntlets suck, Everybody's on board with that,
right? Do they still have to retrieve
the big fucking chip? No, that's the.

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That's something else. That's a different casino
concept they have, yeah, different gauntlet, a different
tournament, as we call them. Some sort of different
tournament, yeah. So oh, that's the one where they
got the wild card asshole too, don't they?
No, no, this one is just like a gauntlet match, so but it, you
know, first person to win wins, it just keeps going.
On that makes sense. The first person to win wins.

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Well, yeah, yeah. Interesting.
Terrible does it is the. It's not like one person to win,
it's normal. Gauntlet matches could have like
5 people win. Well, let me ask you this.
Bruno does it. End it wins.
Does it end at the finish? Yes, instead of the finish.
Of. One gauntlet.
I'm trying to save it. Wait, so is this the match where

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people just keep coming out likea Royal Rumble?
Yeah. So somebody could potentially
win before everybody gets to thering.
Correct. Oh my God, why it makes?
That's why it makes so much sense you want to be #1.
No, I want to waffle the shit out of the second guy to come in
with a chair, so that's why I could fucking pin them and move
on and fuck all the other assholes stand in the back

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holding their junk. Yeah, yeah, it's it's not, it's
not a good concept at all. At all.
Oh my God, what match did AubreyEd fucking fucking referee.
Did she? Referee to it.
I think the women's four way, yeah.
Bro, my kid and I like that was the sign.
That was the fucking signature moment of that match.

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Just watching her with her posesand her fucking dumb looks and
her like bug eyes in the background that made it
entertaining. We laughed for fucking 20
minutes after the match was over.
And then my son says to me, why don't you put her in your Hall
of Fame? Nay.

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Five years and she's never gotten any better.
It's fucking it's it's awesome. It's so awesome.
It seemed like there was a little bit of time where she
pulled back. Like it seemed like probably
what yanked on the reins. Yeah, they pulled the reins back
a little bit. Well played.
Was it like a year? You know what I'm talking about
Brenda Fly or a weekly watch? It was about like a within the
last year, maybe a year ago where like maybe she was doing a

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little bit better, but now she'sback.
Yeah, I guess so. Wow, Al Day brings up a good
point. If Bobby B is in, why not
Aubrey? She's still active.
That's longevity. Give me a second guys.

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Eric Freeze being a wise ass. Oh, glad you're live Dick.
Woof shit. Good.
Lord, so that kind of night, man, that kind of night.
Hey, are we done shitting on a EW?
I don't know, HK, are you going to watch?

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Are you going to watch whatever the fuck it is all?
In Al Al better knock it off. I'm fucking texting right now.
He's texting us. He just said that Aubrey's
undefeated. This motherfucker.
Am I watching all in? No, no, no, I'd rather take a

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hot fire poker and shove it up my asshole.
Don't threaten me with a good time.
It's not a threat. No.
Maybe you could play Fortnite and nobody could show up.
Yeah, maybe I could do that. Or maybe people could be there
and they just don't, you know, and invite me to the party.
Maybe they just look forward to disappointing friends.

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No, Brenda Fly, I have absolutely 0 interest in this
fucking pay-per-view event. You can watch Evolution instead.
Yep, Yep, A. 100% I'd love to, I'd love to watch that over
there. I you know, and The thing is,
there was there was one what, what's the fucking Labor Day or
Memorial Day that they do? Is that double?

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That's double. Might be one of the two.
Anyways, I used to make it a point to order that one
pay-per-view every year and I think it was two years ago now.
I was like, Nope, fuck it, I'm not doing it anymore.
Just not doing it anymore. Now I, I, I actually went out of
my way 'cause I was going to watch some old AEW.
So I was like, all right, I'll fucking pop Max on.
I'll watch some of the old shit.They got like none of the

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fucking catalog on there. I've been looking for them to
put the Maki Ito stuff on there and it's never gonna happen.
Where the fuck is the catalog? What the fuck's the point?
What's the deal? Like, what's the why have the
deal? Like hey guys, you can watch our
shit on on Max now or you can't.Never mind.
It's like fucking Peacock now. When you go on to watch old
Raws, there's three episodes. I'd rather watch those 3 fucking

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episodes than the they're not putting the good shit on there,
man. Fucking pisses me.
I go, I want to go watch the thegood shit and what do they do?
No, you can watch the new shit. That sucks.
I don't watch the new shitty self.
I don't want to. Watch more Monet, it'll make you
better feel better. Watch.
It every week, every week and I want to punch myself in the cock
and balls. Why do you do this to yourself?

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And don't give me the Double T line.
Well, we do a wrestling podcast,so we got it.
Well, what else am I going to do?
Be disappointed friends? No, I'm going to go watch it and
be mad. Rondo I need to have a point of
order here because I think that HK is secretly saying he doesn't
want to play with Double T anymore.
Yeah, that sounds about right. I love playing with double TI

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don't know the way you're bitching and moaning about
everything kind of seems like hewas like, you know, second tier
you. No no, here's the thing.
Double T said. Hey man, I should know about
tier one. I called fucking magic.
Yeah, that's true. Double T says hey man, I'm ready
to go, ready to play. There we are, let's play.
We did tell Tony I'm on my way and he just sit there for a

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fucking hour by myself. I'm.
Not going to cry about it. I'm just going to be very, I'm
going to be very rageful during this show and then, you know,
next time I get to play with with Tony, I'll I'll make fun of
a little bit and then I'll move on.
Hopefully my break. Break your phone, have your
power go out, all the all the rageful stuff.
Don't put on deodorant. Nah, no shit with the.

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Door open. I.
I took a whiz with the door open.
Yeah. What'd that do for you?
Yeah. Nothing.
I didn't. I didn't care for that at all.
Aren't you afraid somebody's going to turn the corner and
just see you with your cock in your hand, You know?
Well, I mean, nobody really comes in my house.
Oh. No.
Oh, really? Oh, that's too bad, pal.
And then can we write that down?Nobody really comes in my house.

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Yeah, I know what to write the letter to use too.
That's AC so. But like, I was like, you know
what, fuck it, I'm just going togo, going to go take a quick
whiz. I'll leave the door open.
I left the door open. Didn't feel right, man.
Can't do it. Can't do it anymore.

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Like you close the door and I couldn't imagine dropping trow
and taking a fucking grumper with the door open.
Unacceptable behavior. I completely agree.
Yeah, I won't do. I won't do it unless nobody's
home. So you've done it.
Yeah. But it's I'm on the 2nd floor, I
could hear if somebody's coming,you know?

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But then what do you do? Like you like duck walk to the
fucking door and slam it real quick?
I could. Or do you hurry up and wipe and
hope nobody runs up the stairs or you you jump out mid spray?
Mid spray What are you eating? And too much of that fucking
Mexican restaurant. You watch your language, Brundle
ply. I don't know, you don't get the

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shits from fucking veggie tacos,do you?
No. Man, I would.
Well, you'd chase it down with afucking slider, that's why.
Yeah, my body would reject it. What are you putting this into
me? Get me some fucking white mano.
Got to have some vegetables, man.
You got to get some vegetables in there.
Yeah, onions are on my white mano.

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I think I think your wife is helping us out.
Hashtag. No one really comes in my house.
Looks like a sad face there too.She said Brendel Fly, do you
need me to talk to you? Later for the night.
Hey, by the way, Merry. Christmas fucking the first time

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I noticed this shirt we've been on for fucking almost 40
minutes. Oh I I still wear this shirt
everywhere. I wore it to New York and
getting something off a food truck and a guy wished me Merry
Christmas. It's 95° outside.
That's not a bad, that's not a bad idea.
I think I'm gonna start wearing my Christmas shirts all the time

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of the year. Yeah, why the hell not?
Yeah, it's some Saint Patrick's Day shirts, too.
Wear those all year. Oh fuck yeah, I had to say
Patrick's Day shirt I wore all year.
Irish yoga. I had just a bunch of passed out
guys. It's all guys.
Yeah. You sleep assault in some
Irishmen. What?

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Yeah. Tony knows what I'm talking
about. Good Lord.
Hey, any any other shit about AWor are we done?
Let's see here. Don't care about that.
Don't care about jet speed, do we?

(28:10):
Do we give a shit that that Okada and Omega are unifying
worthless titles into another worthless title?
No, I'm excited to watch them wrestle.
They had too many. They had too many titles to
begin with, and I don't know if they may be realizing that they
have too many titles and are nowcombining the like.
I don't know. So that's good that they know
they have too many titles, so they're doing something about

(28:32):
it. But I also, I also read that
he's got a couple more belts that he made.
I'm talking about TK. Apparently there's women's tag
belts that he had made like a year ago, but he never debuted
them. And supposedly there's another
title. I don't know if it's a men's
singles title, I forget, I read the article at some point last

(28:52):
week. But yeah, he's fucking.
He's probably got a whole plethora of belts just waiting
to fucking go. Well, we never got the the ROH
Pure Women's title yet, so that's still on the horizon.
So I got to. I got to go ahead.
I'm going to cut you off, Brendo, because it's AW and this
is more important. Got a couple updates from
tropicale. He's good to go to Jersey 000

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and he says Aubrey is the absolute worst.
He was just he was just triggering me.
OK, It's more important, right? Would you Tropicale?
No, I mean, I mean that's. That's.
What? He was saying he needed me to.
Well, I mean, with that freshly shaved Dome of his, I'm sure

(29:42):
he's even sexier now. Oh, yeah, Yeah.
It's a good look. It's a good look.
Oh, talk about Aubrey Brundo. Brundo, You're you're you look
like Hangman Page. You doing all right?
All confused. Yeah, yeah, I'm doing all right.
Just trying to take care of something really quick.
Oh, oh, got you, oh, oh, oh, horny got to go.
Oh, oh, do we have another? Do we have another guest that's

(30:03):
not showing up? No, no, no.
Hopefully this works. Oh, no.
Oh no. Oh yeah.
All right, yes. What?
All right, Tony, you want to? Yeah.
Somebody add them in. Yeah, I'll bring them in.
You want to? You want to.
Do that, I just brought them in if you want to play with the.

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With the what? I don't need to play with
anything, Jimmy. Corderas is here.
Yeah, I think, I, I think that'sthe wrong layout by the way.
But we'll we'll get that fixed. Yeah, there it is.
Got a name change? Well, thanks for having me.
I got a name change I see. No, it's just a a couple of us
don't know how to use the new technology yet.

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Jimmy Corderas, how are you tonight, my friend?
I'm doing good guys. How are you?
Doing all right, Doing all right.
So, so we're live, right? This is.
We are live, yeah. We are live, man.
All right, We're live, pal. Put up that cigarette.
Just so you know, I got raw in the background.

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Just, you know, keep keeping keeping a keeping an eye on
things. See, now I'm retired as a
referee, so I, I don't miss anything.
I actually see it all. How does he?
Go ahead. No, no, go ahead.
Go ahead. No.
I was just saying you, you usinga, a retired referee.
Do you watch it differently now?Do you take in the product
differently now? Are you more more critical?

(31:28):
At times, because now as a like doing the shows that I do and
then analysts do you, I'm tryingto look at it from, you know,
from a business standpoint, But at the same time that I try to
watch, it's weird. I try to use two different
lenses. I try to watch it from an
analytic point of view. And also I try to sit back and
be a fan at the same time. It's not easy to juggle,

(31:49):
especially like like tonight after here, I'm going to be
recording something tonight for one of my shows and it's kind of
like, all right, I just want to sit back and take it easy and
see what's going on. And then all of a sudden I'm
like, no, I got to write down notes here.
That wasn't it. You know what I mean?
Yeah. It's just, it's just hard not to

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not to pull yourself into that like analytical critical
thinking while you're taking it in.
Absolutely. Especially with the officials
because I know there's been a lot of Flack over the
officiating in recent. I don't know how long now, but
anyways, the ref police are out there and they're going crazy
and but it's not so much that it's I'll notice things that I
don't think other people notice.OK, like.

(32:31):
What, whether it's something with positioning in the ring,
certain tells they have with false finishes, which I don't
like to give away because when Ido, people said that we used to
do a show up here in Canada called Aftermath.
It was on TV. It was a a recap show and also a
preview show on Sportsnet. Up here, you used to air WWE

(32:53):
programming. And on the show they did.
I, I want to say it was 2019 when SummerSlam came up here to
Toronto. And we went down as a show, you
know, interviewed some of the guys.
And then we were sitting out in the audience.
I was sitting beside the producer and someone was in the
ring and match was going on. And he goes, oh, I thought that
was it. And I was like, Nah, I know.

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No, he goes, yeah, what? What?
Well, you know what the finish is, And I'm not, no, I don't
know what the finish is. I'm not in the back.
I don't have no idea. So he says, oh, then what is it?
I said I, I just knew happened again.
And he says come on, you didn't even flinch.
What's going on? I said OK, the referee has a
tell that I noticed on false finishes it's something

(33:35):
different. And he says, well what is it?
I said I, I don't want to tell you.
He says why? He says, 'cause if I tell you,
you're going to see it and then you won't be able to Unsee it.
So it's going to ruin everythingfor you going forward.
And he goes, oh come on now. No, no way.
He's he's coming BS No way. That's not going to happen.
I said I'm telling you. So he bugged me for like 5
minutes to tell him. I said OK, I warned you and I

(33:57):
told him what it was. And next time it happened was
damn it, why did you tell me? You begged me for half an hour.
I'm like what the heck. Is it, is it aggravating to you
watching like today's product, whether it be AEW or WWE, how
the, the rules seemingly they, they, they matter less and less

(34:17):
as time goes on, 'cause I mean, I'm, I, I fancy myself a little
bit more of a purist as I think the rest of the guys do.
And, and like the rules have to,they have to matter.
And it seems so often now that they don't.
And when the rules don't matter,there's like there's no reason
for anybody to care or there's no reason for the heel to break
the rules because nothing's being enforced.
I mean, is that from your perspective of somebody that was

(34:37):
at at the height of the profession, is that an
aggravating thing for you? It seems like over time the
rules have been laxed a little bit and that's putting it
mildly, especially in some cases.
I mean, and it's not just a EWAEW is the biggest offender in
my opinion. And I'm not just picking on
these guys because I'm hating. I'm just pointing out the
obvious in my opinion. Happens to WWE too, but not to

(34:59):
that extent. You know what I mean?
They they are LAX on some of thestuff.
And when I do it, you know, I sometimes buzz some of my
friends and go, hey guys, what'sup with that?
You know, he's saying, hey, we're just doing what we're told
to do. And I said, and that's the thing
too. And AEW, they're just following
orders for the most part. The only part that I hold the
referees in AEW to task that is I think on them is them overtly

(35:25):
trying to get noticed on television.
That that annoys me more than the, the inconsistencies with
the rules and enforcing them. Because I was always taught and
I always, when I, you know, instruct other young referees,

(35:46):
you are not the this isn't aboutyou.
This isn't about getting your face on television and showing,
you know, hey, look at me. I'm here.
You know what your job is to sitin the background, be invisible,
help be that conduit for the talent to tell their their story
in the ring and don't be noticeduntil you need to be noticed.

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Whether it's the finish or some spot, whatever's going on other
than that, just get out of the way.
I've seen like guys running spots across the ring.
They're running from corner to corner and the referee's moving
in close and like they're going to get run over or trip one of
the guys and they're going to get hurt because sometimes in
the ring, the smallest little thing, what we saw with Liv

(36:26):
Morgan the other week, you know,you saw that and went, how does
somebody get hurt? It's because every time you step
in there, the smallest little thing can they can get hurt on.
It's it's, I know it's cliche, but it's not ballet.
Right. Yeah, I think it was Tommy Young
that said the best referees are the ones you don't know are
there. So.

(36:47):
I love Tommy. He was the one, the first
referee I noticed because I, I tried to pay attention to all of
it. But you know, he would come up
to Toronto before WWF took over the territory.
They would use a lot of talent for Mid-Atlantic Wrestling.
So Tommy would come up in referee and, and I watched We
got Mid-Atlantic Championship Wrestling on television here
from one of the Buffalo affiliates.

(37:08):
And I, I, I was like, I like that referee.
How do you, how do you feel? And I, I know we've seen it not
really often, but it has happened in the past year where
somebody won't kick out and the referee will stop the count
because they know what the finish is.
Instead of just following the rules and plowing through.
Like, what's your thoughts on situations like that?

(37:30):
Should the referee try to make atry to make a judgement call and
say like, oh, there was a kick out or a shoulder lifted or plow
through? Hey, sorry you didn't kick out.
It's, it's, it's hard to say because everything, everyone is
situational. Every situation is different.
The problem with that is the referee in the ring has a split

(37:51):
second to make a decision. That's the problem.
And you know, it's damned if youdo, damned if you don't.
Especially in today's day and age where the audience out there
are looking for something to pick on.
They will notice it and all of asudden somebody gets a lot of
heat for it. Now, whether it's, you know,

(38:12):
getting heat from the office in the back, getting heat from the
boys, you know, usually you know, the, I don't know what the
language parameters are here, but crap falls downhill, right?
You can say whatever you want. We're.
We're good, Yeah. I, I don't swear a lot.
I'm Canadian. I just, I, I fudge you.
I fudge you a lot. But again, when the old regime

(38:34):
was there and when I was there, we were told and we were
instructed, if they don't kick out, you count.
Doesn't matter what the finish is.
If they don't kick out, you count because it makes you look
bad and it ruins all your authority and that falls on
them. So I had little things that I
would do in the ring, especiallywhen it looked like it was
coming close. I would count loud, first of

(38:55):
all. And, and I was, I was known for
hitting the canvas pretty hard. I, I, I really made a noise, but
sometimes when you jump down on the canvas, you make a noise
when it's not the count, like when you're landing on the
canvas, positioning yourself. Sometimes they think that's one,
you know, and they'll kick out earlier, but that that's not

(39:15):
applying to here. But I always try to position
myself where they could see me and I try to make eye contact
with the person that's, you know, being pinned.
And I would count 1-2. And if if it looks close I don't
even say it kick. Yeah.
Yeah, I know. I know a couple years ago we had
Kevin Keenan on and he said all the time he he would yell his

(39:38):
count and he would always tell him kick out, get up, we're at
2, you know, like just just to get that alert.
He's like, because I know that, you know, especially in his
situation that he would be the one taking the heat, you know,
so he didn't want to put anybodyin that spot making sure that
they kicked up Another thing that HK and I actually talked
about last week, which is getting pretty egregious.

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A wrestler go in for a cover andthe guy underneath will not kick
out. It's more like the wrestler on
top gets up on the 2 1/2 and just kind of like stops the
cover. Right.
I mean, I'm sure that sticks in your craw quite a bit.
I've seen that a lot lately. That, and yes, that one does
stick in my craw a little bit. And the other one that kills me

(40:24):
is in tag matches when someone comes in to make the save, just
tapping someone on the back doesnot break up a pin because the
guy's still being pinned. Yeah, yank him off, push, yank
him off, push him off, kick him off, whatever.
Just walking in and going dink. That's, that's a, that's
breaking up a pin. Don't get me started on other

(40:45):
stuff too, like mounted punches and stuff like that.
Oh, my God. No.
Come on. Like Kevin Nash brought it up
not not too long ago where he said guys get down there and
they get on top of somebody and they're throwing like rapid fire
punches and they look like shit.You know, if you take your time
and you got someone down, when you're in like a real situation

(41:07):
like that, you throw a couple ofgood ones that look good and
some might sneak in and be a little snug.
You know, you always apologize before you throw it.
Sorry. You know what I mean?
But it makes sense. Like I even remember the
Hardee's were good for that years ago.
Like the like, you know, you somebody gives you your back and

(41:27):
it's just like flurries instead of like just laying in a couple
of good shots. I get that.
Watch Sheamus, he'll tell you. Oh.
Yeah. Gunther, Gunther guys are like,
hey, you know what, again, you're going to feel it.
It's not, it's not like anythingelse.
You're not going to feel. I mean, you land on the canvas,
you feel it. Wherever you you fall, you're
going to feel it. It's just another another blow,

(41:49):
I guess, you know. Yeah.
But but like you said, like there's, there's ways where you
make it look good and you don't have to throw a complete flurry
of them, you know, and like justlay him in a bit.
You know, you're not out to hurtthe guy.
But no, let let the people know that you're hitting them, you
know? Right, right.
Now I got to, I got to ask because it's the question from
Tropicale. And he wanted to, he wanted to

(42:10):
know. He's a lot like us.
We we watched you, you know, over the years, you worked with
the big times through some of the greatest eras.
Was there anybody when you saw that you were working their
match, you're like, oh, this is this is not one I want.
Like was there anybody that you just you maybe they were more
difficult to call their matches that that stick out in your
mind. I mean, there's a few and I, I

(42:32):
hate calling them out because I like them.
Like like I'll mention, sorry Dalit, but the Great Khali I
like. And it's just that sometimes
you'd have to say things two or three times before he picked up
on it. OK.
Was that just just language barrier more than anything?
I, I will attribute it to that, but at the same time, I'm, you

(42:53):
know, sometimes he's trying to think of what he's supposed to
do next and you're trying to tell him and sometimes he's,
he's, he's trying to process while you're talking to him.
So he's not really hearing you, you know what I mean?
Kind of thing. Over overthinking What's going
on? Yes.
Gotcha, gotcha. And on the, the, the flip side
of that was there, I mean, therehad to be a handful of guys you,
you couldn't wait to work, work the match.

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Pick them, Pick them. I mean, like, God bless Eddie.
Eddie was like, you know, I'd have a match with Eddie and I'd
say, OK, Eddie, what's going on tonight?
He says frog splash. OK, Anything else?
No, that's it. You'll know.
You'll know the rest when you see it, OK, you know.

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That's fantastic. That's fantastic.
And then I'm guessing that I mean, you, you had your fair
share of bumps along the way, I mean.
Was the worst worst. Bump you took, you got you got
anything in the holster for that?
The one you remember the most. One I remember the most I've
I've taken ones where I probablyshould have got hurt and didn't,

(43:58):
you know, like WrestleMania 24. I took the big boot from The
Undertaker and I didn't what what happened was I didn't want
to see it coming because you know what your automatic
reaction is if you watch it coming in, you're going to
flinch and, or make a even a slight nudge and move.
So I knew it was coming from this way.
So I just kept my eyes focused that way and I figured it's

(44:21):
WrestleMania, it's the main event take my head off.
I don't care. I I I could use a vacation
anyways if it happens, you know what I'm saying, you know, Bam,
you know, but it's I felt it, but it didn't hurt because I was
so amped up. I was laying there on the canvas
just, and my mind was going staydown, don't move, stay down,

(44:43):
don't move. Because I'm so the adrenaline's
rushing. Yeah, it's, it's, it's almost
incredible, you know, to describe.
Now, is there, is there a 'causeI think there's definitely an
art to what what officials do inthe ring, especially when you're
talking about just A tag team match or a one-on-one.
Now, when you get into the gimmick matches, is there is
there one that that there's a little bit more craft to when

(45:06):
you when you get into into those, those type of matches,
whether it be, you know, I mean,a ladder match is super easy,
but you're you're out there or you know, a match or I mean,
what comes to your mind there? Those type of matches, any match
where the referee is on the outside while the match is going
on the inside is difficult because it becomes a challenge
now, passing times, passing messages and stuff like that,

(45:29):
because now you have to wait till somebody sells towards you
so you can like pass that message on.
And it's especially in like a ladder match type situation or a
TLC match. You know, someone could take a
big bump and you could slide in like you're checking on him,
which you are as well. But at the same time, while

(45:50):
you're checking on them, going, hey, are you OK?
Still got 6 to go. You know what I mean?
Yeah, man. Interesting.
I see. I know you mentioned Eddie
Guerrero. I see you've got a couple of
autographs and and placards on the wall there.
I see you've got a a foam Brahmabull behind you too.
Are you much of A collector, andwhat's your favorite piece if

(46:11):
you are? I'm not like a collector
collector, but I have certain pieces like the Wrestle Mania,
one of Eddie that the office sent, sent us.
And you know, this one here was a personal one that I had signed
by him. It's I don't have very many
things signed by by any of the talent, but that one I got
signed. I've got a poster signed by The

(46:32):
Rock over there from our Malaysia tour.
And actually the one item that Ihave that I will not get rid of
for the life of me is I want to say it was 19/19/96 somewhere
around there. It was late 90s were in
Montreal, QC. Owen Hart had a boxing match
with Ray Rujo. So, so it was like a, you know,

(46:56):
contested like a legit boxing match.
So they had rounds the whole bit.
It was a five round match, didn't go 5 rounds, but I have
the round card from that says round 5 on it signed by Owen and
also George Cevallo who is the corner man for O and he was a
Canadian heavyweight boxer, boxing champion, which was kind

(47:18):
of cool. So I've I've got that and I just
did a wrestle con in Gatineau, QC, which is not far from
Montreal. And Ray Ruja was there and I
wanted to bring it with him, with me to get it signed by him
as well. And I forgot like I'm like how
did I forget this? Too many ref bumps I guess.
I don't know. You mentioned tour of Malaysia,

(47:41):
man is there. I mean, obviously you toured the
world being official there. Is there any stories from any of
your tours that when you think of, you just automatically
laugh? I could laugh now, right?
Yes, of course, because we did. We were doing a tour, we were on

(48:01):
the West Coast and then we were chartering over to Australia and
this plane that they chartered, I don't know who booked this
plane, but it looked like something from the movie
airplane. I mean, like, and we had these
pilots that were like Jack Lemmon and Walter Matthau flying
the plane. But I will say this, thank God

(48:23):
that was them because their experience actually probably
saved us because the way we had to fly over, we stopped in
Anchorage to refuel. I don't, I don't get it.
We were on the West Coast, so wehad to fly up to come back down.
So as we're coming down the coast of Russia, we had to stop.
In this play, I believe the pronunciation is Petrolovis,

(48:44):
Russia where and refuel at an Army base and as we were trying
to land there is a violent stormoutside snowstorm that the plane
was shaking ridiculous. I mean, this was the real plane
plane ride from hell. Forget the other story.
So as we're coming down, this isgoing up and down and sideways

(49:04):
and stuff like that. And all of a sudden he aborts
the landing attempt and just goes back up and then he circles
around the try again and the same thing.
Now the big show was in the seatjust over from me on the other
side. His seat snaps right into Brian
Hefner's lap. Hefner's screaming, get off me,
get up, get up. And he can't because, you know,

(49:25):
he the the seat snapped. He's anyway we going for another
landing attempt. Plane takes off and goes up
again, comes in for a third one after again more violent shaking
and everybody looking at Ric Flair 'cause he had already been
in a plane crash. So everybody was looking at him
to see if he was nervous. We finally land, we get on the

(49:47):
ground, everybody's like, thank God, everybody's doing whatever
prank, whatever God they believein.
And all of a sudden these Russian military guys board the
plane with weapons, stuff like that.
We thought they were just escorting us or whatever.
They told us, no, we can't get off the plane.
We're just going to refuel and leave.
And we're like, we're going to actually take off in this thing.

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Needless to say, we made it. But still, it was terrifying.
It was terrifying, man, man. I was wondering if that was the
connection. Big Show, he told a story and
there was an old WWE story time show and he tells the story very
similar to that and I'm wondering if that was if that's
the connection there. Might be it, it might be it
actually. And then coming back, we had the

(50:33):
we had some engine trouble and we had to stop in Adelaide and
there was a bunch of shenanigansthat went down and Oh my God.
Anyways, I could write a book. You see what I did there?
We we hear a lot about like wrestlers ribbing do do
referees, will they step into that, that that arena or is it

(50:56):
do you get to rib the other referees or or is there is like
an unspoken like not rib your rib each other, just not the
wrestlers? No, mostly we ribbed each other.
The referees would rib each other and it depending on who it
was and how close your relationship was with the boys.
Yeah, yeah, you can pull a little rib on them, but you
wouldn't get too carried away. Yeah, it.

(51:16):
And you yourself, are you a master of the ribbon.
No, I kind of stayed away from that because if you rib
somebody, guess what, It's coming back.
It's coming back on you and thiswas a situation where a lot of
times you wouldn't have to rib somebody and guess what, they'd
get you because they said, you know, he ain't going to do
anything anyway, so. Is there, is there anybody like
in the, you know, amongst amongst the, the referees that

(51:38):
you'd worked with that people would be surprised that their,
their, their talent when it comes to ribbing?
Oh, let me think back. It wasn't very prevalent.
That's the thing with the referees.
It wasn't very prevalent. We just, it was more, you know,
verbal banter back and forth andwe just like, you know what I
mean, just take shots at each other, but playful shots at each

(51:59):
other. Unless it was Chimel who I was
always serious with. I told him what I thought.
I got stuck riding with him for over almost 2 decades.
So I wonder what the heck? Two decades with Chimel.
Yeah, him in the passenger seat.Me driving because I am the
worst passenger in the world. I I cannot just sit there for

(52:20):
3-4 hours while someone else is driving.
I'm the worst side seat driver in the world.
Up. Slow down, hey?
Hey, watch. Watch the road.
Watch the Road. They go what the fuck do you
think they're watching? Yeah, I know, I know.
But I can't just sit there, you know what I mean?
I have to. I have.

(52:41):
I have to have the wheel. I have to have a cigarette.
I have to have the control of the radio.
You know, my Pepsi. That was it.
Ask Jimmel. If you ever talk to Jimmel, ask
him. Marlboro Lights, Pepsi, and
those cheesy puffs. All right.
Like the Cheetos, Cheesy Puffs. Yeah, smoking orange cigarettes.
By the time they were done with all that on my fingers, I just

(53:05):
feel bad because I would fling them out the window and some
animal probably went by. Oh, that looks delicious.
Now you worked through, you worked through again some of the
greatest areas of wrestling. What what was the most rewarding
time period for you to to you for you personally to be there?
Probably the mid 2000s because that was a period where, you

(53:31):
know how they say as far as wrestlers go, it takes them
several years for them to get it.
It's the same way with referees in my opinion.
And, and for me especially as asmuch as I was comfortable doing
what I was doing, it wasn't until like I want to even say

(53:51):
2003, 2002, where I really said to myself, you know what?
Now that I'm been sitting there listening to these guys explain
things in the locker room, it really started to click then and
what my role needed to be for them.
And I was like, OK, focus on this.

(54:12):
This is what I need to do. And also, I learned that as much
as I thought I knew, you never know it all.
And even to this day, every oncein a while I'll watch a match
and I'll go, oh, OK, maybe I should have done something like
that. Ignore the count, let them all
be in the ring at the same. Time.
Well, not not that one. Not that one.

(54:34):
Make yourself known to everyone in the arena, Yeah.
Hold on, let me just say I'm going to send ring the bell.
Cue the Benny Hill music. Jimmy, tell us a little bit
about huge Pop radio. Oh, huge pop.
My buddy Donnie de Silva, he reached.

(54:57):
It started in September of last year, and during the summer he
reached out to me. He says we came up with this
idea. He says, how do you feel about
doing a radio show? I said, yeah, what were you
thinking? He says no, it'd just be like
one hour radio show. We'll have guests on.
We'll we'll talk about everything.
We'll kind of try to make it conversational as opposed to

(55:20):
everybody. You know, when especially when
we have interviews, we don't do the, OK, let's do his Wikipedia
page and see what he's got thereand just rifle that off.
He So what Donnie does, which he's really great at.
He's great interviewer by the way.
But at the same time, he's also great at his introductions.
So he gets all that Wikipedia stuff done in the introduction.

(55:41):
So the rest of the interview is all stuff that they normally
don't talk about. So.
So that's really good. You guys don't like to go?
Like, hey, where did you train? How did you get into?
The business? No.
Who was your first match? I mean, you know, stuff like
that. No, we like to keep it light.
We kept conversational. A lot of the times it's people

(56:03):
we know because Donnie's been inthe industry since about 96 or
so. He's been a Booker and and and
trainer up here, Actually even trained a little bit under Waldo
Von Erich, believe it or not. Wow.
Of all people, Yeah. And he realized quickly that
bumping is not good for a 6 footseven guy.

(56:24):
So. But he's really, really smart
about the business, really knowswhat he's talking about and we
have a lot of fun with it. And just like I said, just it's
like 2 guys talking wrestling and, and Lincoln Allen, who's
our producer, he's, he's also anindie worker as well.
So very, we have some good conversations on there.

(56:45):
I love, I love doing that. And and also don't forget huge
roughing it up as well with Brian Hebner and Daniel Spencer,
who's the lead official in TNA. We have a good time.
I'll give RJ a shout out too. Why not?
He's our producer there. Got to give the guy who runs the
the board a shout out or else hecan just clip your mic at any

(57:06):
time, you know. So hey, how come you didn't
mention me there? Click.
Oh shit, no, we, we, we found that it's, it's a lot of fun and
we like to keep things light too.
That's why, you know, I'm, I'm sure you noticed when you jumped
in, it's like just firing right in.
Let's like, you know, we try to treat everybody like they're an

(57:28):
old friend when they come on theshow, you know?
I, I love that. That's great, man.
I'm this is fun. I love this.
Is there another book in the works?
I know the your book's been around for quite a bit still
available on Amazon. You can get that on the Kindle
if you want to take it with you.If you don't like carrying
around a book. Anything else from Jimmy
Corderas? You ancient to write another
one? Well, it's been thrown out there

(57:51):
and my wife is trying to get me to sit down and write it, but
trying to get me to sit down is like, you know what I mean?
It's so weird because all those years of travelling, you know, I
finally get home and I'm just like, no, now I could relax, I
could take it easy. And first thing my wife, I said,
OK, Hon, what do you want to do?She goes, hey, let's go to
Europe. Oh great, I'm back on a plane

(58:14):
and you know what? I mean just going to get a get a
pack of squares, some cheese balls and a Pepsi.
Write the book. Yeah, well, I could do that, but
I gave up. I gave up.
I gave up the Marley lights a long time ago.
OK, just cheese balls and Pepsi then.
Yeah, I can't get rid of the cheese balls.
That's not happening. I'm with you on.
That one. Well, Jimmy, I know, I know.

(58:40):
Brendan actually told me that you got a heart out at 8:00, so
we don't want to keep. It I can, I can go a few more
minutes. What the hell?
OK, sounds good. Well, we could do eight O 5.
On Turner Time Baby, I love it. Hey, see.
Yeah, exactly, exactly. I just heard from the back that
we're going to stay on here until my time is up.

(59:05):
Well, I, that didn't come off too good, did it?
I got to watch how I say things,you know?
Well, let me ask. I know, I know it's kind of a
cliche question, but what made you decide when you want when,
like, you know, wrestling presented itself to you that you
wanted to be the guy in the stripes, that you wanted to be
the referee? Like what led you toward that?

(59:26):
I, I, to be honest with you, I didn't know I wanted to be a
referee. I just wanted to be a part of
the wrestling business in some form or fashion.
I mean, obviously that thought that goes in your head too.
You know what? I wonder if I could be a
wrestler but watching the matches as close as I did
because I they used to run MapleLeaf Gardens here in Toronto
every three weeks. I sat 2nd row ringside right

(59:47):
beside the entryway. They had this ramp there where?
Oh yeah, I remember that. Yeah.
Yeah. Gardens.
Absolutely. Yeah.
And I sat 2nd row ringside rightthere watching it up close.
And I said, Oh no, that looks like it hurts too much.
I don't think so. Nah, that ain't going to be for
me. But I wanted to be a part of the
business, some form of fashion. And when I started working for

(01:00:09):
Jack Tiny, running just errands and all that stuff, whatever
needed to be done, you know, here, throw me the keys to his
car, go pick up so and so from the airport, whatever, you know.
Then after about a little over ayear of just being around and
hanging around and, and being inthe locker room with the guys,
which was really cool, they accepted me.
Pat Patterson said to Jack, he says, hey, Jack, you know, we

(01:00:31):
got the kid here. He's waiting for something to
do. He's just hanging out, whatever.
Why don't we use him? We'll make him a referee for
during the show so he doesn't have to just sit there and do
nothing. And Jack says to him, well, do
you want to smarten him up? And Pat says to him, Jack, he's
sitting in the locker room with the boys.
He's already kind of getting a clue what's going on here.

(01:00:52):
So Pat told me to get all the ref gear, the black shoes, black
pants, blue shirt, black bow tie, carry it with me at all
times. And then I got thrown to the
wolves one day at a house show and they said here you're ref in
this match, SD Jones versus the red demon, who is Jose Luis
Rivera. And that was it.
Started there. That's awesome.
That's awesome. What was it like?

(01:01:12):
What was it like working Torontowith Jack Tunney?
Oh, I love Jack. Jack was, you know, Jack was
very stoic. Him and Gorilla Monsoon were
kind of the same cloth, you know, just big burly guys who
you know, Carrie, he looked after the guys a lot.
Jack did look after the guys. Like, for example, every show
here in Toronto had they would, he would make sure that

(01:01:37):
everybody had rooms at the, at the old Howard Johnson's.
And he'd rent a suite afterwardsbecause he'd rather and fill it
with beer and wine because he'd rather have the boys up there
drinking than in the bar potentially causing a ruckus.
No, it, it's great to hear because, you know, I mean, you
know, watching wrestling as a young fan, Jack Tunney was like

(01:01:59):
the president and you always heard like that he ran Toronto.
It was his territory. Then he got in with Vince and,
and Pat and all that. So no, no, it's, it's, it's
interesting to hear what he was like.
I mean, like, my biggest momentswith Jack Tunney was like
announcing the WrestleMania 4 tournament or, you know,
suspending Danny Davis. Right.
Well, I'm glad he did that. Let's put it.

(01:02:26):
I mean, Davis was a good, he wasa pretty good wrestler.
I mean, you know, for the spot they put him in.
Oh yeah. Yeah, he was OK wrestler.
He's a worse referee, though. But no, I'm kidding.
I'm kidding. Danny was fine.
Danny was good. But that was that was the way it
was back then. A lot of times a lot of the
referees were guys who were trained wrestlers and actually
worked as wrestlers. See like Danny Davis, Mr. X.

(01:02:51):
Yeah. Patrick.
Yeah. Nick, Nick Patrick worked.
Mickey Henson was a worker. Scott Armstrong.
You know a lot of them. Even even before that.
You you look at the old school guys.
Like if I'm not mistaken, Gilberto Roman was also a a
worker. Yeah.
You know. That was kind of almost like a
prerequisite back then, yeah. You got to skirt the system

(01:03:15):
there, Jimmy. Yeah, yeah.
Timing. Timing was right for me, let's
put it that way. Quite a few less bumps on that
bump card. Yeah, still fall to every one of
them though. Man, we got.
Are you guys getting the question in before Jimmy leaves?
Yeah, so Jimmy, there's one question we ask every single

(01:03:38):
guest, no matter who that comes on, OK?
It's when was the last time you shit your pants?
Oh good Lord. I've.
I've probably on that flight I described, Yeah.

(01:04:01):
And then you got to then you gotto go and clean up in those
little tiny stalled bathrooms inthe back.
Not good. Not good.
It's funny you mention that the one wizard is not here tonight,
actually soiled himself out of your work and he went off to a
porta potti to clean his drawersand he actually salvage the
drawers and brought them home. You throw them all right, Jimmy,

(01:04:23):
You throw. No.
No, no, no, no, you 86, those suckers.
No. No, no, no, no.
That's a what? What are you gonna do?
You gonna put them in a little baggie and say, Oh yeah, I
didn't, I didn't blow a hole in these, So they're still OK?
No, no. Bye.
Bye. I didn't blow a hole in these.
Yeah, that's. Going down.

(01:04:45):
I just feel sorry for the personwho has to clean up in the
bathroom afterwards, that's all.Because you know what they you
can't flush those things becauseyou'll clog the system.
So you got. You got to anyway.
Got to tuck him away. Tuck him away.
See, this is educational for everybody listening here.
Right, right. And I got I got to I got to ask
one on top of that, since we Oh no, pilot, we're piling on now.

(01:05:07):
I I, I know, I know you got to go, but that wizard that isn't
here that does his laundry in the port of John.
He he shits with the door open. Now, you wouldn't do that, would
you, Jimmy? You you close the door behind
you when you're going into the bathroom, correct?
I thought that was like, I thought that was no question

(01:05:28):
there. I didn't understand that.
Now it's different when you're on an airplane and you want to
keep people away and you want you want to scare the stewardess
or something like that. But then again, you're opening
yourself up to a lawsuit. So you're.
Not going to get many drinks that way.
Either no, no, no, they're not. They're not coming by with the
cart. Thank you, Jimmy.

(01:05:51):
I, I appreciate you, man. I appreciate you.
Any anything you want, you want to plug before we we we let you
get out of here. No, I think we did it all with
the shows and stuff like that and I appreciate you guys having
me on. This was a lot of fun, man.
See, I like this kind of stuff as opposed to the other stuff.
So this was this was a blast, man Appreciate.
It Listen, Jimmy, anytime you want to come back, just hit us
up. Let us know anything you want to

(01:06:12):
plug, even if you want to just shoot the shit.
We're happy to have you back, brother.
My pleasure. Thank you.
I will be back after this. I'll be back, man.
Awesome, Jimmy. Awesome, maybe you could berate
double T2 when he comes back andask him why he shits with the
door open. OK, Yeah, exactly.
Oh, that'll be the first thing Italk about.

(01:06:35):
That's. What I.
I mean like, never mind, we'll we'll save it for the next time.
Thank you so much, Jimmy. Thanks, Jimmy.
Have a great night brother. You too.
Take care guys. Jimmy Corderas.
Wow. Fantastic.

(01:06:55):
He. Told me a year ago I'd be asking
Jimmy Corderas when the last time he shit his pants was.
Yes, it's like, what world am I living in?
Yeah, it's, it's so fantastic with a guy like that too,
because the, the things that he says always, like they, they
just make sense, you know what Imean?
Like we've said it before, like the referee is not supposed to
be noticed until he's supposed to be noticed, you know what I

(01:07:16):
mean? Like he just, he knows what he's
doing. And then you look at the, the
span of his career, it it's justoutstanding.
You got to be, you got to be damn good at your craft to be
around as long as he, he was around.
So my, my hat's off to Jimmy, man.
My my hat. Definitely.
Yeah, he's enjoying himself. He's got a podcast, he's got
videos that he does on Instagram.
He's doing good things, man. Doing good things.

(01:07:38):
It's it's nice when a guy like that gets out of the business
and he's not really out of the business.
You know what I mean? Like still, you know, putting
content out there contributing like it's it's cool to see, you
know, he's got amazing, amazing insight.
You know what I mean? Amazing insight.
So Oh my God, he fucking threw abunch of them to the to the wood
chipper. Didn't they would have to name
them? I got to see if I can find that

(01:08:05):
disco fever video. Remember her dancing?
Around OH. My gosh, I forgot about that yes
what was the tune? It was Aubrey, but what did she
dance? It was it was it was Disco
inferno Disco Inferno's theme song gotcha man.
They should they should have just had her for the intro when
they went to The Pointer Sisters.
They should have just. Had her.

(01:08:26):
There was the other one too, thetheme of Mr. Ed as well.
Aubrey, Ed. But that's low hanging fruit at
this point, right? Yeah.
Yeah, they kind. Of give me a chuckle.
Boy. Gosh, she was wearing the
brightest fucking sneakers the other day when I saw her.
I was like, what are you? What are you doing?
You're a fucking You're a. Fucking official.

(01:08:47):
You got to be rehoofed. Oh man, I know.
I say low hanging fruit and I goright back to the fucking tree.
I. Mean the well wasn't dry, man.
The well wasn't dry. Tony.
But yeah, you can lead a horse to water, but horses can't fish.

(01:09:09):
So with that, Tony, we will be back right after we're done
waxing our carrots. It's all right.
Get rid of the. Fucking Banner, whoever's in
charge fucking got rid of it. No, get rid of this shit.
This. This fucking thing.
I can't think I I'm just thinking about waxing the
carrot. Hold on there.
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Whoa, whoa, yo, we're back. You know that?
The one guy with the, you know, the over the shoulder title.
You like that, right? That's not a bad look, is it?
What do you think about that? You got to get a belt that looks
like a vest. Yeah.
Well, collar belt, man. That might be a thing.
We might think about that. It's almost like, it's almost

(01:13:17):
like you're a gladiator, right? Because the gladiators kind of
have like the vest like that. Yeah.
I like it, I like it. I'm in, I'm in.
AI is a weird magical thing. It sure is a.
Lot of weird stuff in that one too.
A lot of weird stuff. You guys want to talk a little
night of Night of champions? I mean did double T update the

(01:13:40):
picks? He said he did, I think.
Oh, he did. Yeah.
Oh, before we get to that, shoutout to SJ and the entire crew.
Yeah, are goblins are really gobbling it up out there.
Yeah. I know the noise double T when I
say that, but it's a term of endearment, I think at this
point. Yeah.

(01:14:00):
Like when I say Nob Goblin. Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, we had bust a beauty Brit out given out signing widgets
merchandise last night. So Many thanks to that.
Many thanks to her. That was awesome.
Yeah, Lisa's got something coming up in Texas, I think.
Yeah, all, all. In all in, look at that.

(01:14:20):
Hell yeah. Interesting, even though some of
us hate AW still out there promoting.
That's awesome. Damn Skippy, awesome picks.
Didn't go my way this time. What did you do?
Did you pick with your heart? Yeah.
Yeah, probably because you had abroken heart from Sunday, right?

(01:14:43):
Well, the the event was Saturdayafternoon, but I know I'm trying
to conflate the two. Of the future broken heart?
Yeah, maybe. I knew it was on the horizon.
Yeah, it could have been, yeah. There wasn't like, I don't know.
I just, there were certain matches.
I was like a little little bit back and forth, a little bit
back and forth. But at the same time, like, you
know, I had to get the picks in.I didn't want to overthink it.
So I just, I'd like to see this happen.

(01:15:05):
I'd like to see this happen. I'd like to see this happen.
Click maybe? You should start overthinking it
then. Go do the Costanza, do the
opposite. Gotcha.
Well, I went three and three, soeven the opposite would have
fucked me. That's true.
Yeah. So good point.
Man, So what? Tony?
You, you said you can catch muchof A night of champions.
Brundle fly What? What would you think, man?

(01:15:27):
So I enjoyed the majority of this show.
I thought Cody and Orton was very was good.
I think they're planting seeds for something else for Cody and
Orton is at the end. Cody's putting them over
non-stop and Orton's kind of, you know, going up, though,
going up the way and looking back, like, what's this fucking

(01:15:48):
guy talking about? OK, so I could see, you know,
maybe something happens, maybe does something does it, but a
little, a little something in the bushes for later there.
Oh yeah, look, maybe, maybe a little legacy 2 point O.
Yeah. Well, Curtis Axel comes back DBS

(01:16:09):
Junior Deuce or Domino, whateverthe fuck it was.
Manu. Yeah, Manu.
Yeah, why not? I Yeah.
Overall, man, I I was a little bit disappointed in the show.
Yeah, I can guess where your major disappointment would be.
Yeah, yeah, there's a couple things.
There's a couple things I liked.I like Randy and Cody.

(01:16:30):
I I thought that was a that was a fine match.
It was a fun match. Raquel Rodriguez.
Has she ever been good? You didn't like that match?
I really like that match. I thought her and Ripley, I mean
the two of them have some good, good togetherness.
I. Can't think of a word.
Chemistry. Good to chemistry.
There we go. Good togetherness.

(01:16:53):
Yeah, good, good togetherness for that.
I think we already have our title for the week, though.
But keep writing shit down. No, I I just, I just don't, I
don't see it in her. I don't, I think that if she was
4 inches shorter, she wouldn't have a job right now.
I just I I don't, I don't think,I don't think it's there.
I really don't think it's there.Sammy and and Cross man, I I'm

(01:17:15):
so happy that cross is connecting with an audience
right now and and people are there for him.
I think he's doing a fantastic job.
I really thought it was it was it was going to be a cross win.
Like I really like committed to in my mind thinking he'd he
could use this. This will help him.
I don't know, you know, necessarily where he goes from a

(01:17:35):
loss with Sammy or if this is something they're going to drag
out a little bit more because itseems like they almost have to
at this point. Yeah, when he lost too, he's
still like smiling at Sammy and talking to him or whatnot.
So it's maybe like the pin's notin the cushion here.
Pulling, pulling him into the dark side so Sammy can achieve
what he wants to achieve. That would be that.
I would love to see that happen Solo and Fatu.

(01:18:02):
Your favorite thing? Oh.
Yeah, I. Mean.
Pumped to. See.
Pumped to see him, excited, justgenuinely excited to see him.
Didn't like the way the match, didn't like the way the match
played out. I don't like that Fatu dropped

(01:18:23):
the title already. They could give him like a real
solid run. Would have been nice for him.
I was hoping that Hikaleo would have been on Jacob's side.
I mean could be. Go over to Jacob because.
What is that? What's going to happen now?
Fatu versus the the the rest of the the all the tongas,
tongaloas and loa tongas and he's got.

(01:18:43):
Big Jim. Picalongas and all that other
kind of stuff. It's just, it's it's too much.
They got to do work on those names too, because what is what
is he Talatonga? Is that what is called by?
Yeah, yeah. So you got Tamatonga Tangaloa?
I mean, he was always the one with the different name.
It's Hikaleu, right? Like Tama and Tonga or they've

(01:19:05):
been, except for Kamacho. They've been the same thing for
years. Maybe I have them go back to
Kamacho. Yeah, yeah.
Come out on the bike. That would be fucking amazing.
I'd like to see I'd like to see solo and and fot 2 again, and
I'm sure we will. I just I I kind of question
where they're where they're going with it.
They're building back up, build back better bloodline.

(01:19:27):
Is that what it is build? Build back blood, better
bloodline. Say that again.
Build back better bloodline. Yeah, it's.
Impressive, yeah. I don't, I just don't.
I don't know what the, the, the next, the next.
I, I think, I mean, I think if Solo loses here, he's dead Like
he was at this point. He was basically dead at, you
know, for him to take another loss, he might as well just

(01:19:49):
throw him off TV at that point because he's ultimate jobber.
Rondo, you're smarter than this man.
But. Smarter than this, you know that
losses and wins, it's about getting over, not about going
over. Somebody is.
Just he's not getting over with all his losses.
That's a problem. He's constantly losing.
So he's, you know, he's not getting over with all the
losses. He was a badass to turn into a

(01:20:11):
goofball because Jacob Fatu became the badass, and then
Jacob Fatu became the star, and now he's just a goofball.
And I think they're going to strap a fucking rocket to Jacob
Fatu and within the next year. Fuck yeah.
Guy's incredible. Yeah, him and maybe not the next
year, but the year afterwards. Give me him and Braun Breaker
and Main Event Mania. Don't they?

(01:20:33):
Don't they still have a couple of couple more in the the
dynasty in the wings here? Well, there's Zillafa 2, but I
don't know if he's signed yet. Yeah, and there's.
Who's the one that was on the show?
Say I can't pull the name he wason, he signed, can't remember.
Lance, Lance. Lance.
Yeah. Yeah, yeah.

(01:20:56):
Well, he was there at Night of Champions.
No, no, no. He's he's in the wings.
He's signed. Yeah.
Well, Hikuleo was apparently signed a year ago when it took
him this long. Yeah.
Queen of the Ring final run to fly you.
You're a huge Oscar guy. I love Oscar.

(01:21:16):
Yeah, I was. I'm so happy she's back.
But I mean, like, I I figured she was.
I knew she wasn't going to win. The story's there with Jade.
She's going, she's winning, and then Naomi's going to fuck her.
Oh yeah. Oh yeah, tuning in for that.
Oh yeah, and then. Oh, then this is what I've been

(01:21:40):
waiting to hear. I just, I'm so fucking
disappointed. I'm just so fucking
disappointed. You know, a huge disappointment
Saturday with this main event, bigger disappointment Sunday
with friendships. But.
Could. Could I have?
Could I have? How many pay per views in a row

(01:22:02):
have I been begging for a clean fucking finish with no outside
interference? And here we go CM Punk.
John Cena Also. Oh, you whiny bitches, CM.
Punk. Pushed a child?
No, he didn't fucking push a kid.
All right, Get your head out of your ass.
If you push the kid, the kid be down.
Stop it. Just fucking stop it.
But back to the match itself. I I just I.

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Wanted just give me a clean finish with no interference and
what do they do? Here comes Seth and Seth Goons
and then who comes out Penta Penta.
It not only, not just comes out fucking dances.
Out. Well, I'm gonna.
I'm gonna excuse that. I like that part.
You can't. No, No, No, No, No, No, No, No,

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No, No, No, No, No, no, no, no. No, no, no, no.
No, no, no dance. No wonder people don't play with
you on Fortnite. Whoa, cannot excuse that double
team. Play with me, we had a great
time. And it would.
Sammy was out for the main too, wasn't he?
Yeah, Sammy was out. He fought to the back with Brown
Breaker and then Penta, after he's done dancing, jumped on top

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of them. What a fucking mess.
Yeah, what a what a fucking mess, man.
I just. It's just so ridiculous.
Why, why, why am I tuning in to watch these main events?
Because I want to see a match between John Cena and CM Punk.
I want to see that match. I don't want to see that match.

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Plus Seth and his goons and Penta and fucking Sam.
I don't want to see all that shit.
I'm tuning in to watch a fuckingmatch between CM Punk and John
Cena and you can't fucking help but stop themselves from bending
me over. Stop bending me over.
I'm fucking sick of it. It's getting to the point where

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it's 9899 WCW and the crowd during the main event.
It's going to start watching theOhio Way to see who's coming out
instead. Of the match.
It's already fucking started, man.
Yeah, it's already fucking started.
And I just, I don't know. I don't know what it's
accomplishing. Like, I really don't know what
it's at at first when you're like, OK, got to protect

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everyone. What did you take a loss?
Let's let's protect the guy who will be gone in, what, December?
No, they're protecting everybodyelse.
So when John Cena's gone, that's.
Why? PM Punk loses because of Seth
Rollins, that's why all this shit happens.
Can I just interject something? LeBron breaker?

(01:24:32):
I mean, I know like, and we've all talked about it.
He's getting the Rockets trappedto him.
They put him with Seth now. As time goes on, I'm giving less
of a shit about him. I just connection to Seth.
I I just see him like not being the breakout star that people
are expecting him to be. Yeah, he hits.

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The ropes at 23 miles an hour. Yeah, he's got a spear.
He just looks like a fucking goofy Jack off.
Now he just does. Like, I'd rather see what's his
name, the fucking fat dude that's with Seth Rollins.
You know what? I'm saying.
I'd rather Bronson Reed be fucking Seth's muscle and that's
it. Yeah.
I don't get like, I don't get it.

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I don't get it. I don't.
I don't think that Braun Breakerneeded to be part of this.
I think on his own, standing alone, he was doing just fine.
I don't need, I don't know that he needed to be part of the Seth
Rollins group because I think that he feels lesser being part
of this group. Now he's back up to Seth.
And before he was his own man kicking ass that just just

(01:25:37):
putting putting bitches down. Now he takes a back seat to Seth
and you're making him like in his his his whole presentation
to everything about him seems lesser because of the role that
he's in. And it's it's disappointing
because I think the guy, I thinkthe kid has it.
Yeah, it's not like it's The Shield where all three feel
equal like Roman, Ambrose, Seth.You mean at least at the

(01:25:58):
beginning, right? It felt like 3 equal guys with
the equal goal. Bron right now is just, you
know, second fiddle to Seth instead of, you know, go trying
to do something on his own or even with, like, Heyman's
backing or whatnot. Yeah, he doesn't feel like a
Paul Heyman guy. He feels like a Seth Rollins

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guy. And the group doesn't feel like
a Heyman group either. Nope, the whole thing doesn't.
There's something that just doesn't feel right about it.
Then again, you know, Paul Heyman's been so successful for
so long, you know, I guess the hiccup is kind of going to come
eventually. But, well, we did.
Curtis Axel, Ryback. No, but that was years ago.

(01:26:40):
I mean, he's been on a hell of afucking run since then, you
know? Yeah.
Yeah, I see what you. Mean, but like, yeah, like this
it just it don't it don't work for me dog.
Like, is that still a thing? Is that Randy for me brother?
Randy Jack. You Randy Jack?
Yeah, I was trying to. I was trying to find it.
I'm an old man. No, I just, I don't know.

(01:27:03):
I'm the best Papa. There's there's.
Lick my ass. There, there's a lot, there's a
lot of, there's a lot of moving parts, a lot of different things
that can be done. But right now I'm not super
pumped with what is being done. I guess if, if that makes sense.
I I, I genuinely want to see Sammy win a championship.

(01:27:25):
That is a right. I think that people can get
behind and people can enjoy. I don't think that he takes the
belt off of of Cena. I don't know what happens with
Cena, but the the problem is we all know what the ending is.
We know that he's going to drop the belt.
You know, at a certain point he's dropping the belt and
that's what's going to happen. So that's that's the
disappointing part to me. I mean, I would have been, I

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would have been happier if they would have had him, kept him
face, kept him true to that, have him win the title on his
way out. What if he doesn't?
What if he doesn't drop the title before the end of the
year? What if whatever they're going
to do, like if it's like, what do they call it?
Like one they had a word for thelast time they ran a show on
like December 31st. It was like a pay-per-view.

(01:28:08):
Maybe years ago, something like that.
There was. AI know, yeah.
They did day one. Yeah, that was it.
Let me check something real quick, OK?
So John Cena's going to be Verdunganya.
Basically, wait, wait, hold on. December 31st is on a Wednesday.

(01:28:29):
I'm thinking like how great it would be to have that fucking
show, like like a show that Wednesday the 31st, you know
what I'm saying? And then Cena fucking, he
fucking wins. Whoever it is, he fucking keeps
the title and then some chicanery or some shenanigans
happens where it's like you're not walking out with the belt,
whatever, whatever, and somebodyfucking faces him at the Rumble

(01:28:52):
and and that winds up being his last match or some shit like
that. You know he already has.
The end date though, and I thinkit's December 10th or something
like that. Why?
So like, that's it. But there's got to be some
shenanigans, right? And that's probably why he
probably wants to go out, you know, in his area.
But let's think of it like this.So Cody's going to get a title

(01:29:16):
shot at SummerSlam. Do we switch the belt on to Cody
at SummerSlam night 2, or are weriding this thing out?
Cody gets fucked somehow by Randy Orton, and if that's the
case, who steps up? Does Roman come back?
Does Roman get slid in there? And then what do you do with
Roman if he does win? Does Roman rematch with Cody

(01:29:39):
again for the third time and then Roman beats Cody at Mania
like? Do we see, do we see Seth at
SummerSlam? I mean, we got we got it teased
at this point. Did he cash in or that didn't?
No, no, no, he didn't cash in. He didn't get the what's a
That's when Charles Robinson wasrunning down like the fucking

(01:30:00):
like crazy and Cena just plowed him.
Oh yeah, so. I thought Seth hit CM Punk with
the briefcase and then the referee woke up after that so
there couldn't have been a DQ? Like is that what happened?
Yeah, they they ran into the ref.
The ref was out and yeah, the ref so.
'Cause I know. I know Seena's shit can Seth and

(01:30:23):
then covered Punk. That's yeah, Yeah.
Well, Punk hit the fucking whatever the his finisher.
The ref's still on the outside. Seth comes back in, hits him
with the briefcase stomp. Ref jumps back in 123.
That's that. Angry Kevin Good times, good
times. Horrible, horrible times, bad

(01:30:45):
times, bad. But then, but then what's the
end game here? Like like what's happening?
Like what do you guys see this going?
There's still options. There's still a lot of options.
Yeah, there is. And I could.
I don't, I don't know, like I really think that there there's
going to be a face turn in here.Like I, it feels like there has
to be a face turn somewhere in here for Cena before, before he

(01:31:08):
heads out, I think he goes out as you know, as a face.
I don't know when it happens andI I'm not sure where it happens.
You know, I would like to see, Iwould like to see Brock Lesnar
get slotted in at some point. I really would.
I think that Brock Lesnar, if you're doing a retirement tour
for John Cena, I think Brock Lesnar needs to be a stop on it.
Yeah. I don't think that's going to

(01:31:29):
happen, though. I don't think it's going to I'm.
I. In a better world, it would have
been, but unfortunately, yeah, I.
Don't think he's on table not taking the.
Blowback of that. Yeah, on blow out the back, you
mean. So I don't think I, I just I,
it's hard for me to envision what what happens because I

(01:31:52):
mean, the crowd still is cheering for Cena, even though
he's he's a heel. I don't, I don't find much of
his heel run so far to be believable.
He did that one promo right. His his version of the pipe
bomb. Fucking CM Punk on Friday night.
CM Punk on Friday night fucking blew me away.
That was well done. That was very well done.

(01:32:12):
I was very happy to see that. I would have liked to seen Punk
take the belt here in Saudi. I would have been, I would have
been fine with that. And then let Cena turn work his
way back to give him fucking 18.Why not?
Why not let Seth fuck him over his last night and be done with
it? Move on.
It's just like that's the right now.
It's the disappointing thing is that we know that the end game

(01:32:34):
is he's dropping the title. Do we get can we get Cena
getting fucked over by Seth and then kind of like macho man
warrior somebody comes out to attack him and then R truth
saves him and then they he becomes like the miss Elizabeth

(01:32:57):
to Cena's macho man and the two of them go out like the end of
the year and they win the tag belts together.
Some goofy like everybody's happy.
Our truth is back. Go home, feel good, Cena
retires. The tag team made in heaven.
Yeah, shit. Like that?
Yeah, why not? Why the fuck not?
I'm so happy you mentioned that,Tony, Because how quickly did

(01:33:17):
that die? Are people still screaming for
our truth? Are they chanting for him
because he's back? Because he's.
Back so nobody gives a shit again like it it's.
I think they gave people. Wine.
They got the toys that they wanted to and then they put it
in the fucking corner. And now they're not.
They can't give a shit about everything all at once.
HK No, no. The guy I want, I want it.
I want it. I want it.
Now I have it. I don't give a shit about it.

(01:33:38):
Go fuck it. What about Mr. Was it Mr. Iguana
where? He fell off pretty quick, didn't
he? We want him.
We want Iguana. That's all we want.
Hey, we got his shirt. We don't give a shit about him
anymore. HK and I played Fortnite on
Sunday. He would have been like who
gives a SH? Exactly, he wouldn't.
His panties wouldn't have been in a bunch.

(01:33:58):
I'm not wearing a panties because you washed him in the
porta John and got rid of him like a little man just wearing a
nut cup because you guys are busting my balls.
So hard again. Oh fuck.
It's the fucking truth, man. It's the fucking truth and not
the truth that we are there. Dude, there's so much.

(01:34:19):
There's so much other stuff going on.
He's not doing a fucking thing. Nobody there's.
But there's so much going on at a high level right now and
Damien Priest is actually fucking talking about the ledge.
He's doing stuff. He's just not doing stuff on the
scene of fucking Punk, Seth Rollins level at the moment.
They got what they. Wanted our truth.
Belongs somewhere, he just doesn't need to be at the top as

(01:34:39):
long as you fucking want him to be there.
He doesn't. Like I said, he's a bit player.
He can save John Cena from the ass whipping of a lifetime,
though. When John Cena fucking loses the
title, yeah, then everybody's going to care at that point.
Yes, because now he's a. Good guy again, absolutely.
Nah, I give a shit going to readhis.
AARP. You'll see, you'll see HK.

(01:34:59):
I'm not going to see. I'm not going to see.
I'm pull my blinders on. I'm not going to see shit.
I don't see anything. If you're not watching people,
you really need to fucking TuneIn on the.
Youtubes. Jesus, I almost removed them.

(01:35:21):
Now he got to himself last week.Well.
Not care if you need me. All right, the show just got
happier. You have to press the button to
be on the show dude. That's how it works.
All right, I'm back. I just recorded a quick Patreon
episode so. Holy shit, dude, stop.

(01:35:43):
What the fuck? He choked himself.
You know Double TS going to be so pissed at us all, right?
No, not my buddy Double T He plays games with me.
He's a good friend. Yeah, but we play games with
him. He gets angry.
Thank you, Patreon told me. Fucking shit my pants there he.

(01:36:08):
Is no, not that one double? Double Wolf.
Wait, wait. We got to go.
We got to go to Mr. Day. Tony, this take is coming from a
guy who doesn't know how to tellwhat color a snake is in his own
house. You know what?
You know what? He's right.
For his fucking kid to know whatcolor a snake was and not you.
Dude, I got to call you out on that.
It was in my fucking house. In my fucking house.

(01:36:31):
I fucking I I opened up the door.
There it was. And there was a there's a little
bit of a shadow there. It was black.
And then it fucked herself. It was green.
That's all right, HK. If HK knows about black snakes
being in his house, that kind ofseems right, doesn't it?
Black and green. My Anaconda didn't want none.
You really do live where you should vacation in the backyard,

(01:36:53):
huh? Snakes in the house?
Yeah, that was. You got a you got a fire pit in
your yard. I know.
You got a lake back there or a pond?
No, no, no. No fire pit.
Yeah, we got a big ass pond. No fire pit, though.
You need a fire pit, dude. So we thought about, we thought
about putting out a like a concrete patio off the back end
that we got the deck, but we thought about putting down a

(01:37:14):
concrete patio and then just getting one of those, you know,
prop them up gimmicks. You know they've like Snoop.
Dog. Snoop Dog promoted the shits you
know I'm talking about. Put a little couch out there.
You and your best gal can snuggle by the fire.
Yeah, me and my number one gal. It'd be great.
Yeah, yeah. And when you guys come to Jersey
or come to come to Minnesota, you guys can hop in.
Yeah, HK can lead his head on Tony's lap in front of the fire

(01:37:37):
make up, complain about not playing Fortnite with them, you
know. I'll tell him.
I'll tell him you know I still love you.
He goes. I know, I know.
Give his hair a little tussle. I know now get stop making your
lollipop move. Tony.
Poked me in the eye. Little in the ear too.

(01:38:04):
He sniffs down holes. What can I tell you?
What do you do? What do you do, man?
Do we want to get into homework here?
Yes, please. I want to throw this fucking
bitch under the bus again. All right, well.
At least for the first half, first half of it only get the

(01:38:26):
the the the banner up double T you can start doing homework at
13830 all right, so. Let me, let me.
Read you what Double T sent us. I shipped myself in a Porter
potty and cleaned it. The end.
Here I I took you guys back to April 1st, 1994, which was

(01:38:49):
apropos 'cause I thought this match was a joke when I first
started watching it for the Rock'n'roll Express versus the
Heavenly Bodies for the Smoky Mountain tag titles I.
Forget the name of the event. Whatever it was, because there's
a that blue class ball 2, whatever.
Blue ball, classic two. There you go.
Electric Boogaloo. It was a match I'd never seen,

(01:39:10):
and after reading about it and Way of the Blade, 100 of the
greatest bloody matches in wrestling history, I had to
watch it. I did, and I loved it.
That's why I suggested it. It's classic R&R, and I loved
every minute of it. You know what, Brenda?
Let's start with you. You seem a little calm at this

(01:39:30):
point. I want to hear your thoughts.
So this match was confusing to me.
Why slow? It felt like in the beginning
when the Rock'n'roll Express hadcontrol, it felt like they were
the heels, you know, they're cutting off the ring, they're,
you know, throwing them with behind the refs back, they're

(01:39:52):
making fake tags and shit like that.
It was just, it was strange because they're, you know, it
felt like that's what the Express should be.
Do or not the Express the heavenly body should be doing to
them? The whole time.
Doesn't matter, just call him jobber tag team #2.
But but the fans sure fucking love them.

(01:40:15):
So you know what? Do I?
Do Oh my God every 5 seconds. Yep.
So bug zoom off was there for a minute.
You see? Run to fly.
That's what fans do when they care about what's in the ring.
Yeah, they chant. Kyle.
Hey, there were two Kyles in thering.

(01:40:35):
They're chatting anyway. So I love the heavenly bodies
100% always well big gigolo Jimmy Del Rey guy I have I have
a little bit of a of an issue totake up a double T on this.
Could we get some fucking some video that has quality to it?
Like I just, I want to watch a fucking I want to watch a video

(01:40:56):
that I don't feel like on Avhs tape that was in a flood and I'm
putting in AVCR that can't, can't fix the fucking tracking.
I mean, they probably didn't have quality back then, 1994.
It's not like Jimmy, It's not like Jim Cornette had a big TV,
you know, production behind him.He always says like Smoky
Mountain was run by him and backed by some money from Rich

(01:41:20):
Ross or somebody. Like that?
Felt like it was filmed by the the fucking jerk off that filmed
the curtain call. Like, it it was that that part
of it bothered me. All right.
With that being said, Buck Zumoff says, hey, I love him,
kids. Champ for rock'n'roll.
Oh, Buck, you get out of here. Buck.
Shame on you. Yeah, for sure.
No, no cheeses for you this week, my man.

(01:41:41):
Well, Nope. You pay yourself out.
Yeah, get the J pay off anyways,take it to the J pay window.
So the you're going to J pay forthat comment.

(01:42:12):
So double T's homework. So I I fucking right away hate
the fact that they have a referee and tags in a cage
match. That bothers me every single
time. It's a fucking cage match.
Why are we? Why are we making tags?
Doesn't make Bruno and Tito didn't need tags.
If it bugs the hell out of me that we're we have to sneak

(01:42:35):
weapons in behind the referee's back in a cage match doesn't
make any fucking sense. Like all these you can have A
tag team fucking cage match withno referee inside of of the like
that's what they should do, right?
This is a blow off. This is a loser leaves town
match. Why is there a referee inside
the ring and that fucking cage? Was it wood, wooden, chicken

(01:42:58):
wire? What are we doing?
No, I didn't mind the cage. I kind of like the look of the
cage. It made it look different.
It made it look like it was fucking like just thrown
together that like, you know, shittier.
Well, no, but it gave it that feel like this was like fucking,
you know, like you're going to win or you're done, you know
what I mean? Like, it kind of, I think it
added to it for me. Tony looks like when somebody's
got a shitty car and they're like, Oh no, it's got character.

(01:43:20):
No, it's a piece of shit. I I do agree with what Brendo
said though. Like the Rock'n'roll's being a
little healish in the beginning.But I get that storyline
purposes because if this is the blow off, like you should be
doing what you need to win. That being said though, there
was a fuck ton of stalling at the beginning of this.

(01:43:40):
There was a whole bunch of nonsense where they were just
taking their time, Joe jacking with the crowd, playing to the
crowd. If this is fucking kill or be
killed, they should have gotten that ring, threw the gear off
and let's fucking tear the housedown.
That's what they should have done.
This match should not have been when I fucking saw the.
Quality of this. And I knew it was going to be

(01:44:01):
hard Cam. And then I saw it was 33 fucking
minutes. I said what the fuck?
Are we doing? What are we doing?
I did like that fucking Brian Hildebrand.
Stop the count at the end, though.
I thought that was a pretty neatbit of like bit of business, but
it was all because no, he used the racket.
He used the racket. No, he should have fucking did

(01:44:22):
it because fuck you. This is my match.
I'm. Calling the match.
It's OK to throw him into a fucking cage, but don't use a
tennis racket. Yeah, it's like, come on, it's
a. Fucking cage match.
That type of shit always bug me,man.
It's always going to bug me. You don't need an official in
the ring. It's a fucking cage match.
Go through the door, over the top and be done.
And Tom Pritchard was like big time busted open before the

(01:44:43):
fucking heels took over. Like, I don't know, man, I don't
know what they were going for here, but this is pretty fucking
stupid storytelling. It really was.
It just seemed like shit that didn't fit together.
The cage match didn't make sensewith all the stories they were
trying to tell with the Rock'n'roll Express taking over
in the beginning. Like this should have been a
fucking battle of attrition. They should have fucked one of

(01:45:05):
these guys up by throwing them into the cage, throwing them
into the corner and spent a significant amount of time
double team and fucking Ricky Morton.
And then every time they they would have him dead the rights,
Robert Gibson get back up, try to break it up and they fuck him
again. And then they beat the shit out
of him and go back to beating upon Ricky Morton again.
You know what I'm saying? Give me a.
Fucking story where these guys are fighting for their fucking

(01:45:27):
careers and beyond that the fucking the finish itself was
anti climactic as hell as hell. Fucking P bomb reversal like
that was that was the finish after all, after all this other
bullshit. That's that's how you finish it.
Like people did come up for it though.
I mean they were hot for rock'n'roll the whole time.

(01:45:47):
But but I think like to your point like saying they're hot
for rock'n'roll the entire time like why not give them a big
finish? You mean why not give the
fucking bodies a big send off way out finish and this is this
was how they finished it. That part fucking that part
bugged me. I overall I didn't like, I
didn't hate the watch. I did not, I did not hate the

(01:46:10):
watch. I, I could say, you know, I, I
probably enjoyed it, just not asmuch as I thought I would going
in. Yeah, we didn't get a, what's
his name, Del Rey belly dance orwhatever.
I was looking forward to that. I love the gigolo Jimmy.
Yeah, yeah. I, I love that.

(01:46:30):
So I, I, I do this Hot Rock'n'roll always gives a thank
you Buck. You always give a big finish,
huh buddy? His asshole who?
Back here if you need me. Who?
Was doing commentary for this. I thought the commentary was
actually pretty good. He said his name in the
beginning. I can't.
Yeah, I know I've I was like butbut sounded like he knew the

(01:46:54):
story, knew these guys backgrounds.
Like I had no problems with the commentary.
I really thought that he did a good job.
It's Jim Cornett. It's Smoky Mountain.
There's no way in hell that he you're not going to have a good
commentator, because if you don't, Cornett's going to go
nuts and fucking kick you out ofthe building then.
So. And Cornett was wearing like his
spandex outfit wasn't. Yeah, he was.

(01:47:16):
Yeah, but why? What for?
Like he didn't like like what was the purpose?
Did. He do.
I was going to look it up earlier.
He wrestled, he wrestled a lot on the huge shows.
He would have like some kind of match, so.
Right. If he had a match on the show,
then I'd get it, but it was justweird, you know, Like, yeah.
And then when at the end of the match when he started like
halfway climbed up like apron, like to the apron on the outside

(01:47:38):
of the cage and his fucking legswere all bowed out and it looked
like he was trying to fucking rail the cage.
Oh, yeah, That made me fucking chuckle.
Him in a spandex just fucking dry dog in a cage.
And this was supposed to be likethe 100 bloodiest matches.
Like, that's where he found this.
Like, yeah, and I get, and I sawDoctor Tom going for the blade

(01:47:59):
when he went down and he was busted open and all this and
that, but it's hard to fucking notice any of that when the
camera is so bad. But on top of that, this, this
fucking cage match, like they could have got away with some
WWE shit here because let's be honest, they really didn't use
the cage all that much. Yeah, You know, maybe they're

(01:48:20):
afraid of it breaking down. Either that, or maybe it was
something with Kentucky. They weren't allowed to do a
whole lot of blade jobbing and shit.
Like, I don't know. I don't know.
It was just weird all around, man.
It was weird all around. So Cornett did wrestle.
Earlier in the night, him and Bruiser Bedlam defeated Bob
Armstrong in a handicap match. Do you have the card in front of

(01:48:42):
you? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
What? What else was on this?
Well, that's right. Wait, this was Bruiser Bedlam's
debut? I remember they mentioned it on
commentary. Killer Kyle beat Anthony
Michaels, Lance Storm defeated Stephen Dunn, and then right
after that Lance Storm defeated Timothy.
Well, of course Tracy Smothers defeated Chris Candido in a

(01:49:06):
ladder match and the only other match was Dirty White Boy and
Dirty White Girl defeat Primetime, Brian Lee and Tammy
Lynn Finch in a street fight. Finch.
Yeah, she was Finch in Smoky Mountain.
Finch. I thought she was Finch.
Or maybe Fitch. I don't know.
I can't read. Finch in a street fight, you

(01:49:29):
say? Yes, in a street fight.
I would have liked to seen that.That would be a good pick.
What do you want with this? Which is good because I like the
bodies. Don't get me wrong, I like the
bodies are my team, but. You know, I was just.
Yeah. So I mean, how do we all feel
about about it? About it?
You know what, man? No thumbs down on this one,

(01:49:53):
dude. I'm sorry, Sorry.
No, sorry. Is that too harsh?
I don't know. I'm just a lot of the shit I
just wasn't feeling from the from the way they fucking did
the rules to the to the fucking over overly drawn out stalling
in the beginning to the Rock'n'roll's being in charge.

(01:50:13):
Like, like I said, it should have been a fucking war of
attrition and we just got a fucking standard match in a
cage. We just did Trundle fly.
Thumbs in the middle. I didn't hate it.
I certainly didn't hate it. But I think I expected more
indifferent like you. Like Tony said, I was expecting

(01:50:35):
the Rock'n'roll to come out and just kick their ass for a little
bit. Ricky Morton sells for 15
minutes and then that's that. Yeah, I so you know how much I
love the heavenly bodies Yes, soit but like so it's like it's
like thumbs like crank to 11 forthe bodies, right, But then but

(01:50:55):
then you start working it backwards because you're like,
OK, hated the fucking. Rules.
Hated the fucking like I hated the fact that they're fucking
hiding tennis rackets. Didn't like the camera work like
didn't like the finish. You know what I mean?
Like it's if if the heavenly bodies are cranked to thumbs at
11 and then you start working all the rest of it back in, I

(01:51:18):
get to like, no, you're, you're down bro.
Yeah, that's under. That's down, bro, just turn it
down. It's, it's like, you know, it's
like it's like 3 quarter down. You know what I mean, 'cause I
can't go all the way down, 'cause it's the body.
No, you can, you can, you know what happens when your thumb
goes past that point? It's gravity just pulls it down.

(01:51:40):
It's just, I just, you know, andI, I, I like the way the bodies
work. You know, it's just it's just
there was so much, there was so much working against my love of
wrestling in this match. Like there was so much working
against it. Yeah, yeah.
Got me. Sorry, Double T that's a nothing

(01:52:03):
burger. And he loved it.
He made it sound like it was like the fucking greatest match
he ever saw. Well, and and we haven't watched
a ton of tag team matches and homework, but like, if you go
back to like the cage match thatthat you had us watch Tony, that
was good. Even the fucking the, the the
guy. What was it?
The shrinkers and the guns? Guns.

(01:52:24):
Yeah, that was a great like thatwas I would rather watch that
match again over a heavenly bodies Rock'n'roll express cage
match, which shocks the shit outof me.
You would think like just on thewhole if you said you can watch
the shrinkers and the guns on the superstars or you can watch
the bodies and Rock'n'roll in a cage like almost automatically

(01:52:46):
your mind goes, Yep, I'm going to watch bodies rock'n'roll in
the cage, but it it not this time, not this time, yikers,
sorry, sorry, double T still still love you, buddy.
I love you, like playing games with you and stuff.
Was it Brenda fly you doing homework next?
I am out torn. Oh boy, so.
I'm going to pull a gimmick HK, you need some love.

(01:53:10):
OK, All right, I like. Give me an A or AB.
Give me an A or ABI. You know, I'm, I'm thinking I'm
really a smoke that a. Smoking that a All right, so
we're going to WCW Halloween Havoc October 25th, 1998.

(01:53:32):
And no, we're not watching Hoganversus Warrior.
Don't worry. Are we watching?
Goldberg versus DDP main event. I thought you said I need a dog,
Rondo. Well, this is widely considered
the Goldberg's best match, so let's see what he's got.

(01:53:52):
You know, Goldberg's coming backin a couple of weeks.
Let's keep it current. I really just wanted to finish
you off by the end of this. Episode I'm hoping you do
finish. Me off.
I just wanted to finish you off.Come here.
Give me that mouth. What?

(01:54:13):
The Brendo fly? What?
I want to keep it current. Goldberg's coming back, so
let's, you know, it was either that or you could have picked
Goldberg, Hogan. Both options were Goldberg.
Yes, they sure was. What Brendo Rondo?

(01:54:33):
Double fucking wolf. Well, we get to watch the match
that nobody else did that night.Well, that's right, because they
went off the air because of Travis Tritt, didn't they?
They went off the air well because also because Hogan and
Warrior went like 40 minutes or something like that, some
ridiculous amount of time and WCW never told the cable company

(01:54:56):
that they're going long. Good luck, you do.
Yeah. Hey, I don't know if you guys
heard Hulk Hogan's trying to start up some sort of amateur
wrestling show. It's been around for a while.
I remember they did those vignettes.
They almost made it like NWO feeling vignettes, American
freestyle, like, is that what it's called?
Yeah. Well, apparently they booked a

(01:55:18):
13,000 seat arena, cut it down to 4000.
I think they have 380 tickets distributed, Not sold
distributed. That's bad.
That's really fucking bad. Oh, and somebody who signed with
WWE is like, one of like, going to be their big star.
Who's the fucking Olympic guy that they let go?
Gabel Stevenson? Yeah.

(01:55:39):
Gabe Stevenson. That's it.
Or Gabe Stevens. Whatever.
Stevenson, Stevenson. Stevenson.
Good and love you too, tribal Chief.
Mike Peterson's the tribal chief.
Yeah, that's what he's called. He should be the tribal queef.
Who fucking calls him that? I've called him that.
I don't know. Don't, don't play into that.

(01:56:01):
Don't, don't play into that fromthe fly.
You're better than that. All right.
You're better than. That love, Mike.
You're better than that from thefly.
Jersey cow Jesse, Almost poetic that you offered him the A or
the B. He got the D.
Come finish me off. He would have got the beer with
either A or B. Come here and finish me off.

(01:56:22):
Bruna, Fly. Are you coming to Minnesota?
No, no, I'm going to be in Disney like around that same
time. A Boo.
So you're gonna have to finish me off when I'm in Jersey.
Unless you're. Gonna Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
That's quicker. You going some weird retreat?
No, no, not that weekend. I'll be around.
All right, all right. Yeah, Well, I'm, I'm going to
expect you to J pay me off. Don't threaten me with a good

(01:56:45):
time at least. HJ pay me off at minimum maybe
BJ pay me off Oh. Yeah.
Oh yeah. Yeah.
Hey, let me ask you guys, do we have a guest in the hopper for
next week? We have your mother's favorite
guest next week, Paul Lauria. No, the return of Kate the
Great. Oh, no shit.

(01:57:08):
We got heat. We got heat.
Who's got heat? Me and Kate?
You should. Yeah, we do.
Did talking down to talking downto Diana like that?
That shit don't fly. That shit don't fly with me.
By the way, if you haven't seen On the Banner, August 25th HK

(01:57:29):
and Tropic Al will be returning to New Jersey, so we'll be doing
the live show once again in Studio A with the four Wizards.
Plus the fucking puka pimp. His nards will be hanging out on
the couch behind me. Fuck it, the ginger bears coming
to town. Fuck yeah dude, the clean shaven

(01:57:51):
ginger bear rub chocolate syrup all over his head and let Brenda
lick it off. Pudding.
Brenda's a pudding guy. They'll be they'll be pudding.
Like anything off AL's head, we got some new Patreon dropping

(01:58:13):
this month as well. Double T and I recorded an
episode on what was it, Super Brawl 1.
Oh, that's right. I got to put that shit out
tonight. Oh yeah, you ever want to see
what a cluster fuck WCW was at that .0?
My goodness. The debuts, the the great
matches and then the weird fucking characters.

(01:58:36):
So TuneIn, it was a blast. We got another another AHK and
Brundle fly episode coming out too.
It's the heel turn episode. Oh boy, it was such a fucking
blast to record. Had a lot of fun.
Lot of fun, yeah? That was great time.
I'm feeling kind of left out. I feel like I need to put some
time aside. And if I can actually do a

(01:58:57):
Patreon episode with you guys, Tony, maybe you could come
aboard, come aboard the old Chronicles one of these times.
Yeah, I could, but you guys got a good thing going.
I don't want to like, you know, take that away from you guys.
Although I'm sure if Double TS got himself a fucking new issue
of Inside the Ropes, I wouldn't mind playing some crossword
puzzles. Oh yeah.
Been a long time since we've done that.

(01:59:18):
Maybe we could do a Patreon exclusive version of Can You
Beat That? Brendo could put his
championship on the line. Fuck you, right?
Fuck, you know. It's been a long time.
I was thinking about it. It's been a long time since we
did a AWA, Ask Wizards anything too.
We got plenty of new listeners too, so you know, could be a

(01:59:41):
thing for the Patreon. Yeah, maybe we could even do a
live on the Patreon and just have everybody join us and ask
their questions live. It's not bad.
Yeah. Lots of spoons in the porridge,
lots of Dicks and the hopper. Who's fucking rappers?
Rapping what? What?
Did you say who's rapping? No, he said Dicks and the

(02:00:04):
hopper. I said who's fucking rabbits?
Other rabbits. Like Meatwad says, I get it.
It ain't making me laugh, but I get it.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. I put two and two together and
figured out that you were pissing me off.
A for effort there. My favorite was he goes what is

(02:00:26):
this here? Some kind of gay out?
What do you? What's it to you but nut?
You're the but nut My favorite line, though.
Screw you, you fat Guinea. There was a period of time where

(02:00:47):
they had Carl on Sunday. NFL countdown.
Oh yeah, yeah. Yeah.
He was doing his lock of the week and everything.
Yeah, yeah, It's not bad. It's not bad.
Great character, man, Great character.
I saw. No instructions to know how to
rock? No.
Yeah. I saw a commercial they're

(02:01:09):
actually Adult Swim is having, Iwant to say it's the end of
July, a Robot Chicken special. OK, I haven't had an episode of
robot in like a decade. I, I've actually, I just watched
on my, on my my morning strut. I just watched the Star Wars
specials again. They're good.
They do a great job. Robot Chicken.

(02:01:30):
There's some, some real hits in there.
Yeah. Jersey Cow.
Jesse, best call quote. I got so arrested that night.
I think my favorite was when he got fucking stopped and and he
had an accident and the cop pulled him.
The cop was questioning him about drinking and he had the
prostitute in the car and he goes is she dead?
And car goes oh I hope not. Too bad the second hour is free

(02:01:58):
then. Oh, what?
He's yelling at and he's going. What are you saying?
I can't? A grown man can't pay a hooker
in pennies. This is not America.
Yeah. Put this on and shake them,
would you baby? Oh man.

(02:02:26):
Fellas, any anything else? I think we hit it all tonight.
Fuck yeah we did. And we hit the fucking mark.
Two hours, right? Hey.
Give us the fucking. Iggy.
Man, he's like you got 2 to go boys, let's bring it home.

(02:02:53):
He was a fucking. Blast.
Oh, he was awesome. Special thanks to Jimmy Corderas
for joining us. I think Brendo and I are still
tied in picks. It doesn't fucking.
Matter. Yes, we are.
You know, I'm just going to pickwith you the whole time so the
two of us win and we can fuck with the HK and Matt next year.
We might as well call it now because they're never going to
catch us anyway. The year's half over.

(02:03:13):
Wait, do we have do we have the do we have the banner or the
picks? Let me put that up real quick.
Yeah, so Brendo and I are 7921. We both went five O 1.
Matt also went five O 1. He's 3 back at 7624 HK bringing
up the rear the way he likes it.71 and 29 haven't gone 3:00 and
3:00 at Night of Champions. Yeah, well, if you can't, if you

(02:03:34):
can't be historically good, you got to be biblically bad.
Can we, can we fucking end? Can we really end picks after
this year? Like, like, I don't want to be
that guy anymore, but I don't know, picks.
I'm just, I don't care. You've been saying this for
what, three years? I mean, you're fucking 10 years,
dude. I'm tired of doing this.
You know, it's like winning every year.

(02:03:55):
It sucks. I don't, I don't know.
Tom Brady down there. I don't know what it's like.
Me neither. Don't forget follow Wizard St.
team on the social media. Get out there.
These gals are doing an amazing job.
Yeah, give the give the give theNob goblins a follow.

(02:04:16):
Call them Knob goblins. Just call them.
Just call them. What'd you call them?
It's it's a. Term.
Endearment. No, that's what.
We're calling like snow bogs. Oh, no, I don't know.
I don't know if I'd run with that.
Is she, is she running with thatfor real?
We should think of a cuter big game for them.
Yeah. I already.
Did knob gobblers really, Carl? What do you like your?

(02:04:41):
Tube stick and pucked in some who.
Oh fuck. Tony, I think, I think you got
to do the thing, man. Oh, I got to fucking put the.
You got to, you got to do the thing, man.
I wasn't expecting to end this soon.
You know what? I'm saying like I'm not.

(02:05:03):
Well, we can talk about other shit.
Hold on, what? What else we got here?
We got a new IWGP champion. Well, nobody gives a fuck about
that. Yeah, fucking a dude.
This has been a production of the Shining Wizards Network.
For everything Shining Wizards, visit shiningwizards.com and

(02:05:25):
don't forget to listen to all the great shows of the Shining
Wizards Network. I'm sorry.
HK I would've gave you my badge,but I got other stuff I got to
do. We want to thank those who
support us. The executive producer Manny
Crotzo. Our producers, Kate Hensler,
Makarifo High 5 Tom Ryan Schlong, Al Day, Kathy Hummer,
Michael Hammond, Keith Parker, David Henry Ballard, The Third

(02:05:46):
Scott George, Jesse Elwell, Emily Brock and I dunked
biscuits. And thanks to all of you for
joining us tonight. We hope you had a good time
hanging out. I give it to HK.
Go. Oh night, Diana.

(02:06:30):
Anybody got sound bites they want to play?
Horny. Got to go.
Yeah, Fuck this. We're done early.
We're leaving. Good night everyone.

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