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August 11, 2025 • 141 mins

On this episode of the Shining Wizards Podcast

Matt voices his frustration on the recent run of guests canceling last minute.

We dive into some WWE talk as the huge news of ESPN + getting WWE PLE's for $30 a month. We talk about how it will effect our viewing, what It means for Peacock subscribers & if HK should get a VPN.

We talk of John Cena's last tour and why it's Logan Paul as his Clash in Paris opponent & talk of the Karrion Kross news. Is it a work? Are we upset?

Back from the break we plug the Street Team, talk about a crazy Tiffany Stratton road rage incident before heading into some AEW talk.

Matt & Brundo loved Dynamite, did HK come back to watch this week? Find out if he did.

We talk about the unfortunate Jonathan Gresham news and have a pretty serious talk about Joey Ryan.

Then it's on to HK's homework as we go back to Jerry Lynn's last match. Early indications suggest our run of good Homework assignments is coming to an end, but once the facts are laid out on the table, it changes things quiet a bit.

Tony didn't know he was up for homework so he scrambles to find us something & drops 2006 New Years Resolution Bra & Panty Match in our laps

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And Now it's time for the Shining Wizards.
You're watching. You're watching The Shining
Wizards, The Shining Wizards Wrestling Podcast.

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Wrestling podcast, man. The.

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None. It is episode 754 of the Shining
Wizards podcast and thank God I got it right this week because
nothing else is going right. We got a new streaming service
thing for WWE to talk about. Join that Patreon because we're

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going to fucking need it to afford this.
We got ATW to talk about it actually was a great fucking
show. I hope to HK didn't stopped
watching because it's been greatsince we got plenty of other
talks. So let's just get into that
wrestling talk. Talk about wrestling pronto.

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Double T. Tony.
Handsome Kevin. Holy Shibrano, you got to
breathe bro, bro, a little modicum of seriousness when we
start to show Jesus Christ. Sorry, next week I'll be totally
monotone or I'll just fuck it upand have another stroke.
Don't have a Please don't have astroke.

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I can go for a. Stroke.
Just after seeing Tony CM. You guys didn't catch that, huh?
No, I was looking at something else.
I gave HKA little treat before the show started.
The old Brian knobs. Like a full real butthole.

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Write that down. A full, real butthole.
A real. Butthole, yeah.
No, a full real butt hole. Full real butt hole.
Yeah, not like R, like capital F.
Yeah, like an REAL. How you guys doing tonight?
Great. Yeah, buttastic.
I'm good. Call me Mr. Butt Costume.

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Oh boy, our guy Julio says. My guy Julio says.
Fine intro, boys. It's absolutely orange.
Good evening, gentlemen. Hello, fellas.
Wait, you're going to? You're going to skip right over
Tropicale. Does he want to double T
dancing? What is the what is the theme
song? There is no, that's why I didn't

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bring it up, because there isn'ta theme song.
Oh come on, we got to write 1 now.
We don't have to write. Anything we can.
First of all, Brundo's the only one that doesn't need writing
and he writes the notes and Tonydoesn't even fucking read them
anymore. I didn't even know it was my.
Turn to assign homework so bukaki on me oh.

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All right. It's not hard.
It's the there's only four of usnow.
It's no. But I didn't think like my shit
came up so quickly already, you know?
I mean, Brundo HKU me, Brundo HKU me.
Brundo HKU me. Brundo HKU me.
Brundo HKU me. That's kind of catchy.
There you go. That's the Pizza Vita theme now.
Yeah. There we go.

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We do not sell slices. No.
Slices. Come get punched by Double T.
Not punching anybody. I don't know.
We go make your pizza. Oh, boy.
If you're tuning in for Brooke Havoc, she's not here.

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Yeah, another guest stiffed us. Yeah, we.
I'm not going to lie. I'm a little annoyed.
Oh, shit. Here we go.
Well, no, and it's not. I think Brooke Havoc was the
icing on the cake. Oh, no, wait, wait, wait, wait,
wait. What do you mean?

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Like this is like, look, oh, boy, I know things happen and
things come up right. And she's not the first guest
who can't make it, and she won'tbe the last.
But we've been on it. Brundo's had a shitty run here.

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Brundo's been booking guests. I don't.
And and it Brundo does nothing wrong.
He hits them in a a week before they come on, I'll send you the
link. This is the time.
This is the place. Yes, yes, everybody.
And then like fucking Doug Gilbert bailed last minute.
Richard Holiday double booked Brooke havoc.
I mean, there's the there's at least three more people that

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have stuck it in Brundo's Cooley.
Oh. Yeah.
Whoa. Not that he minds, right?
Sam Stackhouse. No, he was like.
Yeah, no, but yeah. Yeah, the first time, but he
made it good and he was. Fucking yeah, he made.
It's just I'm just like. He lost his power.
I mean like. Yeah, I know.
So that was a bad example, but there's others.

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Oh. Yeah.
There's others. Vinny Marsiglio or whatever had
to go to the airport or some shit, yeah.
Yeah, but Vinny's done the show a bunch of times before.
No, not. No, no, not Vincent.
Wait, Vinny Marcelli is not Vincent?
Or maybe I'm thinking a different?

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I'm no, I'm thinking of, you're thinking of the West Coast
deathmatch wrestler. You were right, Brendo.
OK. Vincent is Vinny Marseglia, I
believe. Yeah, that's yeah, yeah, yeah,
yeah, yeah. Brundo's talking about Vinny
Macero, I think. Is that you pronounce Vinny
Macero? Yeah, Yeah.
Yeah, I can't say words so. I don't know.

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It's just like if you're if you can't do it, just don't.
Just just say you can't do it. But if you take it you.
Take that shit. You if you say I'm just
frustrated, right? It could have been anybody.
I was super. Duper excited to talk to Brooke
Havoc. And now I'm like, I'm fucking
annoyed. You could be all right, buddy.

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I'm annoyed we've had Brundo hasbeen booking all these guests,
he's been doing a great job, buthe's out of shitty fucking run
of luck and now his shit luck ismaking me upset and I don't want
to be upset and I don't want Brundo to be upset.
So is it just the power? Is that the the the only
acceptable? The power, it's a good point.

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Death in the family. Power is.
Look. That shit happens, right?
And I'm yeah, Brundo shit is bada couple weeks ago and there's
things that are out of your control.
Things I just we it's just been like it's not like once every
like 8 weeks. It's like every fucking time we

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book cash, we just, we're on a, we're on AI think we're on a bad
luck streak. Gary Jay showed up, Yeah, but if
we go there on Double T. Thank you if.
We go through like all the text messages and Jimmy Cordero
showed up. Yeah, I'm not.

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Saying every guest doesn't show up, but I feel like we've had.
You weren't for Jimmy, that was the thing.
You weren't here for Jimmy. Maybe.
That's I was not here, I was working.
I think you've had an equal amount of guests show up.
Like I think the ratio is 1 to 1.
Like a guest shows up, a guest cancels, a guest shows up, a
guest cancels. Like, I think they're pretty

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fucking even on the year. Possibly so.
And I was fucking super excited to talk to the mosh pit mommy.
Yeah, me too. Oh yeah, you look like you.
Fucking did all your. Homework.

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That's why he forgot about homework.
He was doing homework on Brooke Havoc.
I was going to ask if he even knew who she was.
I know who Brooke Havoc is, OK? I know who Stream Havoc is.
I know who Lake Havoc is. Jessica Havoc.
Jimmy Havoc. Oh, Jimmy.
Can we get him on the show? I don't think so.

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Why? I think he's in the UK, So we've
interviewed people from over there.
Yeah, we did. Remember, we did a handsome
Kevin's buddy and I sent him allthe info and he's like 01:00 AM
my time. And I was like.
What the fuck? Dude, was it shady Natris?
That is shady. Yeah, yeah.

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So like I was fucking. I'm bummed, man.
I usually send like a text message.
This is what we'll talk about today.
I I said nothing. I.
Noticed that. Brendo just sent me a text.
I hate guests. Hey, Brendo's the new Tony.
I was literally on the phone complaining to my wife about
work and all of a sudden I see that I'm like fucking Monday.

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Fuck this. What is the new Tony?
Tony forgets his homework, so who does that make Tony?
You shouldn't do that. Can we save that noise for like
whenever a guest randomly comes on, If they're like, like, how

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great would that have been? That when like, let's say
Becca's not paying attention or something.
Just hit that, hit that Diana drop.
I can hit any Diane and drop anytime.
Hell yeah. The old drops did not sound good
on last week's show. My old drops, yours sounded
good, Tony, but mine were atrocious.
I'm a professional. Yeah.

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I don't know what the what the deal is with my old drops.
Are you a professional, though? Yeah, kind of a little bit.
All right. What are you, what kind of
wrestling you partake in this week?
What did I partake in? Yeah.
What kind of wrestling? What?
What kind of? It was great.
I I I watched MWW Men's Wearhouse wrestling, got myself

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a couple new suits at MW Macy's Wrestling.
I went to PTW Pad Thai wrestling'cause I ate some Thai food at
the mall. Nice.
What else did I do? Oh, I did LJW Lumberjack
wrestling 'cause I took down some of the branches of the
fucking pine tree in the backyard.
All checks out. Actually I did watch.

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I watched the first episode of Unreal so I started getting into
that. All right.
Oh what else did I wish I watched?
I actually watched a little bit of Raw last week.
Wow. I watched the main event.
John Cena and Cody teaming up. It's good shit.
I was Smackdown Tony. Or whatever.
Some shit. Yeah.
So I watched. No, but I watched.
I watched RAW. What happened on RAW?

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I forget what happened on RAW. Several hours then.
Yeah, early night. Oh, oh, by the way, we never
talked about at SummerSlam. Did you notice when Seth Rollins
won the title? Paul Heyman Fucking snoodle
behind him like the fucking Coldplay picture in celebration.

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Yes. We forgot to mention that I
fucking loved it. Oh, I didn't think it was
mentionable. Why?
It was fucking amazing detail. It was topical.
It was Paul Heyman being a fucking silly goose and said
kind of could You just canoodledwith him.
It was awesome. Canoodle.
Everybody felt the poke. Probably the poke.

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Are you excited for the Becky Lynch Nikki Bella program?
Yeah, I don't know. I mean, aren't we like, oh,
your, your husband, are you Johncan't see you.
Fuck that. Shut up.
Wait wait, what type of accent fucking was that?
I'm going to let him go with it for a couple more minutes.
HK, I don't know. It's like old lady British, I

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guess. I don't know.
Yeah, it's kind of like the Queen.
Your Queen. Really.
I mean, I'm not good at accents.Either.
But I wanted to see how far you would take it.
Like, I would start at one. The cake thing, the cake thing
with Alexa and Charlotte, I'm like, somebody's going in the

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cake. And then when Chelsea Green came
out, I'm like, Chelsea's going in the cake.
Oh, and I watched homework. I mean, you made me look silly.
Cake on my face. True professional.
Not on mine. No, why did I make you look

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silly? Well, I was mocking you because
you so you thought I didn't watch wrestling.
I thought you probably like watch some like 78 All Star
wrestling. Oh, no, I mean, I've always got
I've always got, you know, my All Star wrestling on the
background when I'm doing stuff.I guess they skipped that
episode on the cock. But apparently Pat Patterson is

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no longer the North American champion.
He is now the full-fledged and head on Intercontinental
Champion, but we did not get theinterview where he explained how
he got that title, which kind ofthrows a monkey wrench into the
whole Rio de Janeiro thing, but.It is what it is.
Speaking of things being it is what it is and you mentioned in
the cock, we got some pretty pretty interesting news last

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week. ESPN Plus will now be carrying
all of the WWEPLES. Or are are we going back to
calling them pay-per-view now? Because you have to pay to view.
I learned from Inconclusive Breakdown this past weekend that
if you have a subscription that for a cable company that

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includes ESPN, you automaticallyget it.
I don't know how true that is, but 30 fucking clams a month for
like 99% of the shit that I don't give about.
Like give a shit about like, I don't know, man.
Yeah, I'm, I'm I am curious now I have Hulu, but I do get ESPN
with Hulu. Does that include because I'm

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not paying so I don't barely watch the fucking pay per views
as they are? Yeah.
Right, at least. With at least with Peacock,
there's options for other shows that might pique your interest.
You know, like I watch crime shows to go to bed every night
on Peacock. Yeah.
So like, I couldn't give less ofa fuck about like, and like,
look, I have like the $3 Christmas special for Disney

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Plus and Hulu. I am.
And I, I'm probably getting rid of that at the end of the year
because I don't want to go back to paying full price for that
shit. But I just no, man, 30 bucks.
I don't feel a dog. I just don't HK never Now we we
might have a new version of HK now we got him to stop watching

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Dynamite. Does this price tag right
because you what I've learned isthat like you, we're not
watching Dynamite live Wednesdaynight.
You were doing it Thursday when you were doing your walk, right?
You were watching it on your walk.
Yeah. And I like some there's certain

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pay per views. I feel like PL.
ES I'm just going to keep calling pay per.
Views, of course. Yeah, yeah, just in case
somebody out there doesn't fucking understand outside of
the big ones. Like sometimes I feel like
you're doing, you're walking andyou're catching up, right?
So maybe you're not watching Clash in Paris live.
That's probably a terrible example 'cause it's on the
afternoon, but whatever. Do you watch every WWEPLE live?

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Everyone that I don't have an obligation, like if if I got to
be on, like if I'm at a show, obviously I'm not watching it
live. I'm watching it, you know, first
thing in the morning the following day.
It's few and far between that I that I missed them though.
Very few and far between. Is the is, if it comes to that,

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the information that we've been fed is incorrect and you do have
to put down $30.00 a month, Willyou be putting down $30.00 a
month? So I guess I'm, I'm still trying
to figure out how how this is set up because if it's part of
ESPN Plus, I get ESPN Plus, Hulu, Disney, the whole bundle.

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So if they're just upping the price of that to $30.00, I give
a shit. Yeah, paying 30 bucks, don't
care. All right.
Not missing, I'm in. Bundo, Bundo, what about you?
If I got to pay extra, I'm fucking out.
I already pay for all the streaming services and

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everything. Oh wait my.
Also, good evening, Universal. Nice to have you here.
Universal says if you already have ESPN, you already get it.
No worries. Done and done.
I just, I dude, there hasn't been like a now and I have been
behind because I've been workingall weekend and I was busy

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today. You know, I didn't listen to the
Lose a Breakdown podcast on the Shining Wizards Network.
But if their information is correct, and if what Universal
is saying, then nobody has really anything to worry about.
Right, the only thing that a lotof.
People get ESPN. Yeah, the only thing that I'm
kind of pissy about is that I want to know what's happening
with the the fucking catalog. It's.

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Going away, dude. I don't.
That's not the proper answer, ma'am.
That's not the proper in Mexico.The whole fucking catalog is
right there on Netflix. OK, get AVPN dude.
Yeah, watch. I might have to get that.
Go to your restaurant and watch the catalog.

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Might have to. Right.
I feel like I read and I'd have to find it, but I feel like I
read something where Triple H was like, we're going to, when
we make the jump only to Netflix, like everything will
not be going 'cause I don't. They're not targeting the
audience that watches the old stuff.

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I'd like to be targeted. Yeah, me too.
But they already have you. You just said it yourself.
If you have to pay 30 bucks a month, you're doing it.
But I I want everything but you're not.
I want all the. I want all the toppings on the
Sunday. I want them all.
So I've been trying to push thisfucking wrestling playlist on

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you guys like it's gone. It's gone bro.
You're going to have to find other ways to watch this shit.
I. Don't want to find?
Other ways there are, yes. What the fuck's AVPN?
By the way, it is. It's something that will change
your location. So like you can set it to be

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like it changes your IP address.It gives you like a virtual IP
and it can indicate that you're in a particular country when
you're not. Right.
Like it's like. A plug in gimmick.
It's like just the, it's, it's like an app or a software, isn't
it? I.
Don't. Yeah.
Yeah. And then you can like, OK, so

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like before the ESPN or the before the UFC deal that was
announced today, like I think other countries, the UFC pay per
views were like 1/4 of what theywere.
So people would use AVPN and they would order the
pay-per-view for $20 versus $80.Yeah, that's a good deal.

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Right. But I I think all that, like
when was the last time they updated the network?
Like WCW Saturday Night Superstars, They're not updating
any of that shit. They don't give a fuck anymore.
Yeah, it's not their target audience.
It really is a shame, man. Right.
They didn't bring Jelly Roll in to get people to watch fucking
WCW Worldwide. Well, they can anyways, because

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Worldwide was never uploaded to the network.
Right, because they stopped uploading things to the network.
They do have the vault, right? The WWF vault and the WCW vault
which are great. Except for the fucking
commercials. I mean, that's what you get when
it's free. Yep.

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Got to pay the bills man, I don't.
Like it? I don't like it.
No. So wait, wait, so Netflix is
just going to have raw, period raw, That's your place, Raw, but
not even like the whole back catalog of raw just.
Really don't have the whole backcatalog of raw.
Now that's. What?
I'm saying, that's never coming in now.

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Now they're moving their shits off of Peacock.
Where's Smackdown gonna be? Where do I watch?
Where do I watch Smackdown? Where I watch old Smackdowns
smack. I don't you don't have an
option. I would like to watch old
smackdowns. I would like to be a fucking
millionaire. Well, this.
They're really, they're really bending me over and shoving one

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straight up there, aren't they? Let's see to the raw vault I go
on Netflix to 1994. There is one episode per month.
Yeah. Oh, 1994 only has four episodes.
Oh fuck. Me the January 10th episode, the
February 28th episode, the April4th episode, and the July 11th

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episode. Why would they do that?
Let's go to 1999 and there's about.
There's more there, but not muchmore. 12345678910111213141516

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episodes of RAW from 1999 on Netflix.
OK, so four times as many? Come on, Nelly.
I feel like more people are going to go back and watch those
99 raws though. I don't know.
Why? I did, but like, think about it
like I did. I recorded the apron bump of

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Kyle today, born to be wired thesame week as summer Slam. 97 was
28 years ago. 1997 is 28 years ago.
What was? I don't know.
I don't know if anybody knows the answer, but what the fuck's
the problem with the network? Like where isn't that they, they

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had their own streaming service,the money was going straight to
them and then they they they sold the the shits over to
Peacock. Why sell the shits over to
Peacock where they're not makingenough money with just the
network? They probably got a fuck load of
money for Peacock to do it. Whatever they were making, they
probably like doubled it. Fuck that sucks.
Yeah, because Peacock's NBC, right?

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So it probably had to do with, you know, bringing back Saturday
night main events and such too, so.
So, according to the notes, the deal ends WW ES five year
contract with NBC Universal thatbegan in March 2021 and included
both PL. ES and archive content for

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domestic viewers. In the Wall Street Journal, they
stated the Peacock PLE deal was $900 million.
OK. They were not making $900
million on just the network. It's all about that money, bro.
There's never enough money. How much was the net worth

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making? What?
A 900 million. Yeah.
Because it was all subscribers and what was it, 10 bucks a
month or something like that? God.
It. Was so good, I'm sure they were
doing good, but I mean this deal, this new deal is 1.6
billion / 5 years, so 325,000,000 per year.

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That's. It for the PL.
ES on ESPN plus. Right.
Jesus Christ. And yeah, I suppose ESP NS got
to fill the void of UFC leaving then.
Yeah, that's. Probably, which is a weird, but
that's a weird turn. You know, that was a weird turn
of events this morning too. Like now, all the UFC events

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will be free on Paramount. Paramount's pretty bad ass.
I like Paramount. There we have Paramount.
I have them all. I think I have them all except
for like Apple TV. Yeah, I'm right with you, Double
T. Yeah, just Jersey cow, Jesse.
ESPN also got the red zone, ESP NS like this.

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Give me all that. Oh, wait, wait, wait, wait,
wait. Wait, Scott George chomping in
here. Netflix overtime.
We'll have all of Peacock's content over time.
NXT is up for sale but not included in the deal.
So hey, we, we got, we got, we can, there's, there's, there's
possibilities here. There's opportunities.
It'll be interesting to see how it plays out.
Yeah. Hang on to that physical media,

(27:06):
people. It's going away.
Also Jersey Cal Jesse I guess wants me to quit my job.
Don't work HK don't work. Can't do that.
Jersey Cal Got to keep my job, no?
No, I think he meant don't work you like he's speaking wrestling
talk. OK, that's confusing.

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Right. Yeah, I don't, I don't think
he's telling you not to go to work.
That's. What it says though?
Wait where? Where does it say this?
I don't it says don't work HK asin like oh he went to put don't
worry. OK, all right.
I trust you, Jersey Cow. Jesse.

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You're good, man. All right.
That's good one, Tony. We did decipher that.
That's impressive. Yeah, I was.
Dispelling Jesus, I figured he would have been right up your
alley. Double TI.
Was about to quit my job. No.
Well, I I thought, you know Jersey Cow.
Jesse, not a wrestling fan but tunes into the show, picks up on
the wrestling lingo. Maybe he's don't work HK.

(28:14):
I know what you're saying. Double T, yeah.
The Tuis just read the whole fucking sentence.
My God. They get like they get 2 words
in. They're like, they fucking like
Nostradamus. They can predict everything else
in the fucking paragraph. They're like, oh, work.
I. Just give up my job, Jersey cow
Jesse. That would be inappropriate.

(28:34):
I think you mean Quasimodo. Whatever.
Some shit different thing. I'm going to.
Do my I'm going to do my Becky Lynch impression again.
Well, I think you're both a bunch of idiots.
I do the black Hulk Hogan T-shirt on.
That's a eye razor. Happy birthday Hulkster, It's
his birthday. Yes it is.

(28:54):
Do we wish dead people happy birthday?
I do because Hulkamania will live forever.
Atta boy. With my coffee and my shining
Wizards old school mug coffee. Coffee this late in the evening?
Yeah dude I've been fucking exhausted the past like 6 days
so I've been hitting the coffee hard.
Really. Now Will, how will this affect

(29:16):
you? Like will you be wired?
Is this just to get you to the finish line?
I know some people drink coffee and it instantly makes them
shit. I'll leave.
I'll leave that to the fucking leftover Papa John's that my kid
made me order at 9:00 yesterday.You ordered leftover Papa
John's. No we ordered Papa John's
yesterday like 830 and it didn'tcome to like 9:00 and I fucking

(29:40):
scarfed down like 2 slices. One of them was like the works
pie and the other one was like the BBQ chicken bacon pie.
Oh God. What's wrong with you?
So this morning I actually, I actually had a hard time getting
one loose before I left. When I got to the office I was
in dire straits and I fucking brimmed that sucker.

(30:05):
Right now all. Right carrying cross.
Is it a work? Is it like the R truth stuff?
R truth was back on Monday. Yes, he's back.
He's he's found found his. He found himself.

(30:31):
I love how John Cena played it like he was the one that fucking
got crazy, like went crazy and shit.
He's like, you haven't been yourself the past couple months.
What's happening? You cut your hair.
It's really funny. It was funny.
No, I get it. See, unlike you, I enjoy WWE
because their stories make senseand you know, they have good
matches and do that. 400 dives and people fucking hitting each

(30:54):
other with fucking, you know, beds and nails and shit.
Can be sickos. Is it, Does it concern anyone
how easy it was for them to justlike say, the whole John Cena
heel turn thing was a complete fucking disaster?
No, because if you remember whenthe whole thing happened with

(31:15):
Hogan in the Rock, Hogan was fucking plowing into the Rocks
ambulance driving a semi truck and they still cheered the shit
out of him. True.
OK, 'cause they just sent scene out there and he's like, Yep, it
doesn't work. I'm by myself.
Because wrestling fans, they like what they want.
Sometimes it doesn't matter how the fuck you get there.
Right, we want our trolls. Yeah, but he Steven Hogan, they

(31:38):
still had the they still had theNWO come out and like turn on
him or what not to complete the turn instead of him just coming
out saying oh fuck the NWO, I'm done brother.
Yeah, but you kind. Of knew what's happened.
I mean, the Rocks started playing heel in that match too,
you know? So there was a lot of shit
before we got to the next night on Raw, you know?
Yeah. Yeah, like John Cena comes out

(32:00):
on Smack Down and he has his face to face with Cody and he's
like, oh, you know, I'm on an island all by myself and there's
no Travis Scott and there's no other rocks.
So I see the error in my ways. It's like, OK, the last fucking
four months are forgiven. Sergeant Slaughter did the same
thing, you fool. He wanted his country back.

(32:21):
Boom, he got it back. Then he was involved in a match
where Ray Combs killed himself. Wow.
Jeez. Did happen I.
Mean. Maybe not exactly.
That much you? Talk.
Bad things, bad things. You talk bad things, Tony.
I don't know. And now like.

(32:42):
We'll get back to carrying cross.
John, look, you can make an argument, right?
Brock Lesnar's back. This is what John Cena wants.
John Cena wants fucking Logan Paul.
Fuck. That.
Yeah, because John Cena. Well, John Cena and Logan Paul
had a falling out. What was it on the main event?
Sunday's main event. They teamed up.

(33:02):
When did they team up? Yeah, Saturday night's main
event. Yeah.
So he got to get his ship back. And besides, why would why would
John Cena? Like he's getting to pick and
choose who he wants to wrestle. So why wouldn't he want to
wrestle like the fucking like one of like the hot stars, like
the guy who never should have been in wrestling, who's
amazing? Why wouldn't he?
I don't know. It seems like we're talking out

(33:23):
of both sides of our mouth, right?
The retirement tour. That's why we bring back Brock
Lesnar, right? But then had Logan Paul, so like
1 like where does a snap cap? When's he wrestling Logan Paul?
Clash of yeah. You think the fucking big
meathead from Montana wants to go to Paris?
I don't know, going to Paris? They're such a long slaughter.

(33:47):
With his Dick, yeah. Sable takes her fucking top off
and cuts the cattle with her fucking nipples 'cause they're
all ice hard. Why cutting cattle with nipples
right now? Dude.
Old cattle cutters. I like that.
Cattle cutters. Why?
Calf. Crunchers and cattle cutters.

(34:10):
The utter nutters. NIPS Lesnar are we bringing
that? But I don't know man like
where's the doesn't? Where does the miss fit into
this like we're we only have four months left of this John

(34:31):
Cena thing. You don't think 1111 shots?
No You don't think the miss is one of John Cenas biggest
opponents? No.
Not oh, he is. No, yeah, but that whole
WrestleMania thing, like who gives a shit?
But OK, so give him a fucking redemption match.
Who? The Miz.
He does. Fucking.
Nothing. Yeah, he does nothing on

(34:53):
Smackdown. Look at this black fucking match
CSO. But this, this is his retirement
tour and we're going to play thegreatest hits.
Nah, I like the Miz not feeling that I don't want to.
Play the hits. Right play that.
I thought we were playing the hits.
Yeah, play the hits. Ow.

(35:16):
I don't know. Give me, give me Seth Rollins.
Lesnar boom, roasted. Give me Seth Rollins.
Give me Roman Reigns, give me, Idon't know, fucking John Cena
Brown Breaker. Give me that The Miz.
You know what? Busy fucking ruining Carmelo
Hayes's career. Yeah.

(35:37):
Carmelo Hayes didn't really havemuch of A career.
I don't give a shit. You know who I also don't give a
shit about yet? Braun Breaker Don't care.
The guy with the Shula Falla I like better than Braun Breaker.
Shula Falla. The fucking solos.
Come on. No.
Braun. When he murdered Seth Rollins

(35:59):
that time, that shit was amazing.
He's got to go back to that. He's gonna.
Fucking murder people. He's in the vision.
Did you hear him talking shit tothe crowd after he stole Roman's
shoes again? He goes.
I don't even like these shoes. Mine are so much better.
Look at. These.
And he goes, but he ain't getting these back.

(36:19):
He fucking walks. On Boom.
Roasted. Are we OK with the group being
called the Vision? Nope, because.
He's a visionary. Who gives a shit.
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, who gives a
shit? Because if this was AW, you'd
fucking dissect everything. No, because it'd be like the
copes or something like that. That would be the vision.

(36:41):
The Kyles. The Kyles fled the Filchers.
Actually, the Filchers would. Work.
That'd be the cages. Didn't you close grip the
fatherless or some shit? You're just.
No, it's fine. It is what it is.
It's fun. Yeah, it's super fun, just like

(37:02):
AW. But when we talk AW, it's
garbage. It is.
It's garbage. I just need to know where the
balance is. There is no balance.
What? What an AW matches up to the
visions. The.
Visions, listen to yourself. The vision.
Oh, is it division? Like they divided the roster
between them and everyone else? Yeah, you could have called

(37:24):
them. That would be an AW gimmick.
Hey, where's Chris Jericho going?
Hi, guys. Oh God, you just gave him his
next stable. Could have called him the
Bifuckles. Bifuckles.
Jeez. I am kind of done with Seth
Rollins wearing these big, goofyoutfits, though.
That's his thing. Yeah, but he could tone it down

(37:46):
just a little bit. Like turn that dial back just a
hair. That's what he does.
They're not into it. You don't like the visions?
No, no, I Bifuckle's way better.HK The visions or the
visionaries? The Visionaries.

(38:07):
Fuck, that's the. Visionaries.
That's, I mean, that's a no brainer.
Yeah, but that was already taken.
You bring it back. So carrying Cross, we don't like
him, yeah. He's going to come back and he's
going to lead the two by fours. Bret Hart was on the 2 by fours.
Wasn't. He he was on.
The four by fours. 4 by fours. Yeah, yeah.

(38:30):
Carrying Cross. I don't know.
I could take him or leave. Him.
Doesn't do anything for me, never has.
It feels like a guy that like hehad a huge chance at Impact and
didn't give a shit. NXT didn't give a shit, WWE
didn't give a shit, got released, came back, still don't

(38:50):
give a shit. And also fuck him for being bald
all those years and be able to grow a full head of hair.
As for somebody who can't fucking grow any, fuck him for
being bald. I just want to I want to give
this. Real quick.
My main man, Rails Morales says Bifuckles 100%.
He's in on Bifuckles. And Tropicale says there's a

(39:12):
gentlemen's club in Huntsville named Visions So.
I'm sure AL's never been there, Kevin.
We're going to visions. Kevin.
You think carrying Cross got thehair implants John Cena did?
It's possible. But no, Carrion's crossed.

(39:33):
His hair is too good. He's on.
He's on fucking AJ Styles, per plus level hair.
Yeah, his hair is good. It's amazing.
Fucking jerk. God damn, motherfucker's got a
full head of hair to tell him tocut that shit.
The. Fuck yeah, I'm kind of I'm.
I'm kind of with Brendo. I just, I don't.

(39:57):
Care like I I cared about him inLucha Underground when like,
Paul London and his little crew were dancing around him like
white rabbits. Now here's here.
Here's. Just.
To me, it's, it's very interesting because it seems
like Carrion Cross has a swell of supporters, right?
A lot, lot of people. He's got good merch sales,

(40:19):
right? People are, people are behind
him. They're chanting.
We want Cross. He might be let go.
Nobody says a fucking thing. Our truth.
Not really high in the merch sales.
Someday. Weeks he's on TV, some weeks
he's not, he gets let go. Outrage.
Just complete fucking outrage. Where's the outrage for Cross?

(40:44):
Cause because our truth is a lovable character.
Carrion Cross is a character, a popular character, but he
doesn't transcend the way our truth did.
Interesting, no? Seriously, a lot of years behind
them too. A lot more years of entertaining
shit than Carrying Cross did. And he does all the goofy shit

(41:06):
with the little jimmies and challenging Paul Heyman to go
over the top of the Royal Rumbleand coming out during the rumble
with a ladder and coming into the women's Royal Rumble like.
He the Shipman, the ship with Judgement day also Oh.
My God. The last year.
Tom and Nick Mysterio, yeah. Them all holding up his belts.
He comes in between them holdingsomething up.

(41:28):
Fantastic. So him and Charlotte both have
T-shirts on pro wrestling Tees available and they both have
their booking information online.
Wait, did you say Charlotte? You said Charlotte, Scarlet.
I'm sorry, Scarlet. So yeah, I don't know, man.
I I don't know. I liked him in TNAI.

(41:50):
Thought they could have done more with him there but I don't
know, maybe it's a little too little too late.
You think there's less outrage because a lot of people are
wondering the same if is it a work?
Is it not? I think so.
Well, after yeah, after the after our truth like, you know,

(42:12):
I mean, it's we want cross was trending yesterday number one
OK, on on social, on Twitter. I don't know about the other
apps, but yeah, I don't know like he's a he's a good he's a
good he's a fine character, right.

(42:33):
He'll get work elsewhere. Yeah, we'll be an MLW.
He'll, you know, I think it's weird when these guys show up at
TNA after they've been released by the WWE or they don't get
signed again just because of thewhole working relationship.
There's plenty of places for himto go though.
Yeah. I think he'd be a fun character
to show up in New Japan. It's.

(42:58):
Possible. They need.
They definitely need some bodiesthere.
They need a fucking shot in the arm man.
They really do. I can't look.
I cancelled my New Japan world. Jeez.
I'm just not why I'm not watching.
I'm not like nothing they're doing is like is exciting.
Like no, I don't give a shit about forbidden door.

(43:22):
Like you dangled the Nigel carrot in front of me like he's
if he wins this four way on collision next week, like he can
fight Zach Saber forbidden door.That'll be fun.
But like, I don't know. Then he's against I that goes
back to Japan and does what? Who's he?
Who's? I don't even know who he's

(43:43):
fighting. Like who's?
He's in the G1G1's going right now.
It's they got one more day untilthe tournament finals or block
finals. Yeah, you loved him.
You. Tournament.
Yeah, you're the T stands for tournaments, doesn't it?
Double T. In what in my name?

(44:04):
Yeah. I do like a good tournament.
That's what I'm saying. So why?
Why aren't you all rocked up over this?
I don't know man. What?
What's happening to you, buddy? What's happening?
Going through changes sounds like going through that watch,
you know, you watch a little bitof this, you watch a little bit
of that, dip your toes in something new.

(44:26):
What's what? What are you dipping?
What's what's your toe hitting that's new here?
I mean, it's nothing new When I say new, it's not something new.
It's stuff I've may have never seen before.
OK. So like recently I've been
watching a lot of Jim Crockett promotions from like 1985, OK,
and the formation of the Four Horsemen and just the

(44:50):
storytelling is so much more better.
Less is more. It's very simple.
We don't need swerves, bro. It's very it's it's just it's
easy. I enjoy it.
I don't know, I don't know I hate watching shit.

(45:11):
That's like I'm not saying I'm to watch the G1 right, So that
means I got to watch it the nextday, but I can just read the
fucking results you. Don't want to just read the
results. But also like, do like, do I
want to spend fucking three hours every single day watching
the G1? Is it because nobody's talking

(45:31):
to Japan with you anymore? Double T.
No, man, maybe. Might be that.
But also, like, the products taking a real fucking dip, man
Jay White left, Okada left. They lost a lot of fucking good
dudes. Ton of Hoshi dude.
Yeah, country dude. Ton of Hoshi's oldest.
Shit hey, got his 101st win in the G1 all time.

(45:57):
Pretty impressive. It's as impressive as his
fucking hair. And a hot dog.
We'll get you a fucking seat at my table.
I don't know what I don't know. I don't care.
I got to bring my. Hot dog and 101 G one wins.
Yeah, bring me a glizzy. I got to win 101 G One matches
and bring you a hot dog. No, but I'm saying like I don't

(46:21):
care about 101 G, one wins. OK, All right.
It's important. That's not going to get me to
buy fucking New Japan World. OK, well, I mean, you had it.
You just, you cancelled it. That's the situation we're in
now. Yeah.
How much? How much was New Japan World?
It was like 8 bucks a month. You cancelled it.
I'm not watching it. Got to stay for that PLE stuff

(46:42):
man. I still have TNAII, yeah.
I cancelled that too. We had for the Wizards.
Nobody was watching it. I cancelled it.
I still have it. I don't know how to even.
I'm locked out, I can't log backin.
I don't know what's going on with it.
My God, you and apps, bro. Yeah, bring your laptop when you
come out to Jersey. We'll take care of that
immediately. We're going to figure that out.
100% bring his laptop. Motherfucker don't even bring

(47:03):
shoes. He's going to bring his laptop.
I bring my laptop every fucking year.
Yeah, we do the live show from your.
Place. OK, Yeah.
And he has his. Laptop because we came up.
That's right. That's right.
That's. Right.
That's right. That's right.

(47:28):
Don't worry, I'm not going to pile on, Tony.
No, that's. OK, I've I've already got two
matches as possible homework fortonight and I'm going to try to
find two more. Fuckers are in trouble next
week. Next week tonight.
We'd be in trouble now. Well, no, because you have to
watch it. Over the next week.
OK, you'll fucking be disappointed tonight when you

(47:49):
hear what it is, and then you'llbe fucking murderously angry
when you actually watch the fucking thing.
Why would you do something to disappoint us and possibly the
fanbase? That's true.
Well, I mean, I enjoyed the homework somewhat tonight.
Don't want to put the card before the wars.
OK, OK. But why would you like handsome

(48:13):
Kevin pick the homework? Because maybe it's nostalgic.
Oh, we're doing this now. All right.
I mean, no, no, we're not going into the homework.
But, like, there wasn't malice behind it.
Right. But you will pick something,
Tony T Donk. Yeah, Donk.
You will pick something awful just because.
Well, I guess I spoke too soon last week when I said that we

(48:36):
were on a roll of everybody enjoying the homeworks.
So if that's going to go out thewindow tonight, I might have to
just fucking roll with it. I don't want to be the guy to
start a streak over. Why?
Why would you not want to be thethe Band-Aid?
You watch baseball, this is whatwe call a slump.
Fuck the wrong fucking guy aboutthat, buddy.

(48:58):
I'm waiting for the Mets slump to fucking end.
You know, they got a couple moreweeks, brother.
The. Couple more weeks.
Season fucking ended yesterday buddy.
You don't give a shit what anyone.
It ends in August. The Mets season did.
I thought it ends in oh wait, but they but they didn't play
their last game yet. They're mathematically
eliminated. They might as well have.

(49:18):
The Jesus. Literal because the season
usually ends the first week of September, No, like the last
week of. August No, the end of September
these days of. September.
That far? Yeah.
When the fuck is the World Series fucking?
January. Well, yeah, but then why do they
have a Mr. October? Yeah, what the fuck?
Because they had a lot less seasons, a lot less less

(49:38):
playoffs back then. HKI don't know about you, but
they should go back to like whoever wins the division just
goes to the fucking championshipgame and that's it, right?
How many divisions are there in baseball now?
So like. 3 divisions each, so when you had the one wild card
and three division winners, thatwas good.

(50:00):
No, we need to go back to need to go back to East and West for
both American and national and that's it.
Two and two and then one and one.
That's it. Boom.
They had a bunch of exciting playoff like playing games I
remember and that that started the ball rolling on extra
playoff series. You know we need we need another
94 when there's no fucking WorldSeries.

(50:20):
Fuck baseball. Yeah, we're going to take your.
Calls Does Major League Baseballhave too many teams here on The
Fan? Just just wait.
What is it not next season but the season after Double T?
It's going to be a lockout. That's a that's a very good
Chris Russo, by the way. Thank you.

(50:41):
It's the Wizards and the Mad Dog.
Do we believe the money ESPN is paying for the WWE?
Do we want to talk about, AW, doyou believe in the death riders?

(51:03):
Is Debbie Allen the same? Yeah.
Hey, what happened to fucking Big Ears?
Does he come around anymore? Those big ears fucking.
Bach who? He's hurt again.
The fuck did he do? Fucked up his leg really bad a
couple of months ago. Yeah, right in the middle of a

(51:26):
match too. I like he's never done that
before. Oh yeah, what a fuck.
I remember that was a while ago.Yeah.
Yeah, I bet everybody misses him.
He heard himself wrestling Jericho on Raw years ago, didn't
he? Was in Jericho.
Shove Jericho. Shove Charles Robinson.
Was that the same? Was that?
Yeah, that was the match. Yeah, he went for the baseball.

(51:50):
Slide and he fucked up. Is that how he got hurt this
time? Or was he doing some other
stupid? Shit, no.
I think he fell off the ropes orjumped off the ropes and just
landed wrong or some shit. I don't know he.
Just. Fell off the ropes.
Was it because there wasn't seven guys standing there
waiting for him? That doesn't always matter.
Ask fucking X division champion of TNA Leon Slater.

(52:16):
You know 8 guys going to catch them off a scaffold and they
just eat shit. Hey, are you guys going to watch
Triple Mania this weekend? Oh yeah.
Nope. You going to watch it with your
best gal HK? I might.
Hey, does your Taco place does your Taco place do take out or
delivery? Oh yeah bro, that that's what

(52:39):
you got to do. Order yourself up some nice
shit. Put it out on the fucking table
in the living room. Sit in front of that 90 inch TV
of yours. I like where your head's at,
actually. I picked up I picked up a
projector too. Oh my God, what do you Oh my
God, dude in the yard on your fucking.
Acreage, I like that talk, yeah.But I still would, I would

(52:59):
rather, I would rather go there and pick up the food because I'd
go in, see the guys, have mojito, you know, back on the
road and go get home. Easy.
You're going to drink and drive.That doesn't seem responsible.
No I have I have one mojito double TI don't drink and drive.
What do you think he's eating the corn the long way?
I did. That to make you laugh.

(53:20):
It did. Are any of you it's.
Friends. Are any of your friends at this
place wrestling fans? Not.
Not so much. Not so much.
Yeah, do. They know.
Do they know your alter ego? Oh, that's a good question.
Hey, I got a couple of them, couple of them do.
You know we need in in Casa Bonita.

(53:42):
Whatever the name of your place is, you need to get a picture of
JJ Rogue up on the wall. Oh.
You need to get a profile picture, autograph the fucking
thing, frame it, bring it into your boy fucking Pedro, whatever
his name is, and fucking say porfavor on the wall.
Yeah, and they have to sign it, like to the restaurant.

(54:02):
That always makes my stomach hurt.
It has never, it has never made my stomach hurt.
Not, not handsome. Kevin.
JJ Rogue. JJ Rogue.
Yeah, but that might be bad for business.
Yeah, I'm not doing. Anything.
How about the only Mexican placethat doesn't make my stomach
hurt? OK, see, I like you put a good
spin on it. See, yeah, 'cause you're still

(54:22):
like a bad guy, but like, you'reputting them over.
Yeah, I like it. I like it.
Yeah, though it was a couple weeks ago when I was there.
Yuri walked over and he's like finally going to bring the card
home. They still had the fucking
Christmas card that my wife and I brought to him up on the wall.
So I shouldn't wear an ice shirtwhen I come out there in
October? I mean, I'm not going to censor

(54:44):
anybody, but I mean, come on, Double T They're actually
they're majority of them are from Honduras, Honduras.
Oh, Mexican. They're like Honduras.
Yeah. He's got a bunch of Carlos
Mencias working in the restaurant.
Do they fucking eat? Jokes from your favorite eatery
is a Honduras restaurant. It's not a Mexican restaurant.
Yeah, All right. That's that's fair.

(55:07):
That's fair. All right, all right.
Will they be? They don't know in Minnesota,
dude. No they don't.
Will they be airing Triple Maniathough?
Maybe you could do like a collabwith them?
That that that would be fun. Right.
You bring your projector down, you put on the side of their
Hut, and then boom. Not a fucking Hut.
The side of the Hut. Green the whatever restaurant,

(55:30):
what do you call it? The restaurant you just fucking.
I don't. Know a restaurant?
What do you call it? Look man, all restaurant like.
Could be the size of The Cheesecake Factory, it could be
the size of a diner, I don't know.
OK, OK. But you could call either one of
those a restaurant. You need HK needs to pull a

(55:53):
Kermit the Frog and just sneak his picture up on the wall like
over his table and just sit underneath it looking exactly
the same as his picture. I like that.
Do we know what time Triple Mania is on Half Pascal's at
Saturday? I think I got it.

(56:14):
Isn't it Mexico? Like where's it emanating from?
It's in Mexico as as a. Nope, as it was.
Mexico City, it's we got El Hijodel Vikingo defending the AAA
Mega Championship against Don Mysterio, Dragon Lee and El
Grande Americano. But which version?

(56:35):
There's like three of them now, yeah.
I'm in. We got a mixed trios match, the
Judgement Day, Finn, JD McDonough and Raquel Rodriguez
against Mr. Iguana, Nino Hamburgesa and Lola Vice.
The fuck's Hamburgesa? Nino Hamburgesa.
What does that translate to? The little hamburger.

(56:58):
L Hamburger. Kid.
Hamburger Kid. Usually it doesn't translate
with more Spanish in a sentence run to fly, but I I like the
effort. What's that trend made to L
Hamburger dumbass? Writing that one down.
Nino's. Nino's like a little boy, right?

(57:19):
Like a boy. It's kid hamburger.
Kid the hamburger kid. Sure, Street fight for the AAA
World Tag Team Championships. Los Garza, Berto and Angel
against Pagano and Psycho Clown.OK.
Your singles match for the AAA Latin American Championship.
Messias Messias El Hijo. Macias El hijo Del Doctor Wagner

(57:43):
Junior. Yeah.
And then your three-way for the AAA Reyna de Reyna's
Championship. Flamer, Flamer, Flamer.
Lady flamer. Is that a dude?
Defends the title against Fabi, Apache and Natty.

(58:04):
Wait, is Lady Flamer a dude? No, no, definitely not a dude.
She's a Mexican luchadora. Yeah, I'm.
Excited in the in the crash. Yeah, you're excited.
Oh yeah, I'm in. You know, it's kind of nice that
they're doing these because it kind of feels that.
I used to watch CMLL and Triple AI.

(58:26):
Think both of them are on Mundo's.
So I used to watch those on on Mundo's no idea commentary was
all in Spanish. I tried to follow it.
It was just it's it's a completely different flavor of
wrestling and I and I I was ableto watch them every now and
again and now AAA comes on and and they got the the they got
their special events on YouTube and it just hits the spot right.
Every so often it that style of wrestling you throw it on it's

(58:48):
just it's something completely different just hits the just
hits the spot. So I'm excited.
Yeah, can be. Triple of JBL and Corey Graves
doing the commentary. I like I, I, I do like that.
But I, I, I think Corey Graves and Conan did such a good, good
job. Conan.
Yeah, sure, sure. Well, how do you guys say it?

(59:11):
Well, that's Conan. If you're talking like O'Brien,
it's Conan, right? But this is Conan.
Yeah, it's Conan. Carlos, whatever his name is.
Conan. No.
No, when you say Conan, all I think of is.
They did a great job, but I'll be interested to see what Graves

(59:35):
and JBL do. It's it's interesting that they
brought JBL in for the for the commentary desk on that one.
Graves did a great job at at theevent before though, so I'm I'm
intrigued, I'm interested to seehow they work together.
Yeah, no, that'll be exciting. I won't be able to watch it.
I'll be at work. But I look forward to hearing

(59:59):
you talk about it next week. Why are you not going to be
here? I just said I look forward to
you talking about it next week. No, hearing you talk about it
next week, I'll be here. OK.
No, you made it sound like you said it.
Weird. You made it sound like you
weren't going to be here, like you were going to be tuning in.
I mean, I'm always tuned in. You don't seem.

(01:00:23):
You don't seem tuned in tonight.You don't think so?
No. Like I've done a lot of the
talking. No, you're all, you're all over
the place. You don't, you know, you're out.
You're out. You're out of Japan.
No more TNA. I mean, but nobody's in on
nobody on this panel is watchingTNA.
I ordered the goddamn pay-per-view.
People came over. I can't even log in.

(01:00:44):
And I think it's fucking free onYouTube, dude.
You got to reach out to somebodyand just.
Tell got to get figured out, Yeah.
Why? Don't you just cancel the credit
card? Hey, is, is does AAA, do they go
to a streaming service? Yeah, they're on YouTube.
YouTube. That's their streaming.
Service, I think it's, I think you got to pay.
For it. No, I think it's absolutely
free, isn't it? I like the way this sounds.

(01:01:08):
Maybe we also just start watching AAA.
Fuck WWE. I like that talk.
Oh, not the fucking guide to AAA, the fucking car club.
Jesus. So you need a mechanic.
You can find. Some are you done?
This is CICO mechanical. Prime Video you can find some of

(01:01:30):
it apparently according to AI. OK, Yeah.
All. Right.
Let's see, what is this? Subscribe.
Oh, OK. Just free to subscribe.
Yeah, looks like it, buddy. All right, I.
Don't know. Yeah, I just don't know.

(01:01:51):
I mean, it's all in Spanish. OK.
Yeah, I mean, you could translate.
You could just right click and then put translate to English.
L English. L English, Huh.
Tiende tienda, lucha libre, triple a.com.

(01:02:14):
Let's go there, see what's there.
Oh this is like how you can get merch.
Look at that. Get a hat.
Can you get a hat? Oh, Psycho Clown Lookout, Let's
see. Psycho Clown.
Let's see. What do we got here?
How do you say hat in Espanol? Oh, no, Brenda, thank you.
Nope. I got mascaras, Goras.

(01:02:38):
Bosas. Oh, maybe bosa.
No, those are bags. Damn it.
Oh, there we go. We got goras.
Whoa, this has got to be in pesos $298.
Yeah, it's got to be pesos. Pesos.
What is 298 pesos 10 bucks? It's usually it's usually like

(01:03:02):
20 between 19 and 2122 dollars. Do you do you pay in pesos when
you go to the Mexican place? No, no.
How do I know this? That's my stock at home, Mexico
all. Right.
What did you say 298 pesos was? I said 10 bucks all.
Right. What about El Handsome O?
Kevin O. Yeah, I'm not.

(01:03:23):
I'm not doing math. 18 What did you just said?
A number? What did you say?
No, I said it usually translates.
It's usually the the exchange rate is usually between like 18
and 2122 bucks. All right, so 298 pesos is
$15.96. Yeah, that checks out.
Does it? Does it?

(01:03:44):
Yeah, Goraz is a Spanish for hat.
They have one that just says AAA, one that is a Pagano hat,
but the Pagano hat is 649 quesos.
You got to pay him cheese. Now.

(01:04:04):
I ain't paying him fucking. Cheese.
All right, my cheese. My cheese is mine.
Well, that's like 35. Bones and the psycho clown hat
is also 649 pesos. Are they L bones?
Quesos what is the thermos Oh you can buy a nice little

(01:04:26):
thermos too look at this oh you can get a little parka thermos
that's. A good spot.
That's fun. All right, yeah.
So subscribe to to AAA on I willthe YouTube it's.
Free. Wait, am I the only one of us
watching this? I'll be away live, otherwise I
would watch it. Tony, you liked it.

(01:04:48):
You liked the event before? What did I like?
You liked the AAA event that they had last time?
Yeah, it was fine. Not this time.
Not going to go. I mean, if I'm around and I, I
remember it's on, I'll. TuneIn for a bit.
I'll text you. I'll remind you.
Oh. Please do text.
I'll remind you, yeah. What time is it?
What L clock is it there? Bundle fly.

(01:05:11):
Yeah, Oh my God. I looked four or five different
times. I couldn't find a time.
Oh my God, what is this thing called Triple mania?
Yes, do do we? I would like to talk a little
Triple AAA AW, when we come back, Just a little, just a
smidge. I saw Dynamite didn't get the
collision. But I didn't see mine.

(01:05:34):
I fucking loved it. I also loved it.
But do we want to do the the gimmick?
Take a little break, Ski. Yeah, yeah, why not?
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Did I not put it? Fuck.
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Give me a second. There.
Oh God damn it. Fuck I.
Don't know, I just got to do something that I should have
done earlier today. Oh, what's that?
I failed. I failed the whole team.
It's. Going to spank the monkey.
No, there's no monkey spanking. There we go.
You could take the gimmicks off here for a second, please.

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will share them with you. Did you guys see that crazy
Tiffany Stratton story this week?
By the way, that's from making the channels on social media how
she got fucking the shit beat out of her and her fucking head
stomped in. No what what she tells a story
she was living. She's got a altercation in a

(01:11:17):
parking garage when she was in NXT and she started shit talking
this chick and and a dude and they fucking beat the shit out
of. Her.
And they like stomped her fucking face in.
Why was she shit talking people in the parking lot by herself?
I I guess there was a road rage incident.
Hold on, let me. Find that was Tiffy time.

(01:11:38):
This was a. Few years ago that she and then
she like recently, I don't it was making her rounds.
Maybe she was doing she was doing media for a SummerSlam.
She was on Logan Paul's impulsive impulsive podcast.
Bah Bah Bah. I start shit talking with the

(01:11:58):
girlfriend, I push her, she pushes me back, we start fucking
brawling and then she takes her long ass nails, digs them into
my braid and gets me down on theground.
And when this is where it takes a turn, the guy just fucking
stomps on my face. She broke broke facial bones.
She has permanent nerve damagingfrom the stomp which caused her

(01:12:20):
to lose feeling in one of her teeth.
Yeah, fucking wild story, man. And this was when she was in
NXT. Or could have been that long
ago. I don't think she gives a a date
as to when it happened. Yeah, she's only been up for

(01:12:42):
what, like a year and a half, maybe two years?
Yeah, I was going to say, timeline wise, she was, she was
training at the Academy here in Minnesota like 4 1/2 five years
ago. Yeah, it's wild, right?
Yeah. Here we go.
Now, I found a decent website when I was in NXT, after one of
my matches, I cut somebody off my parking garage.

(01:13:04):
They were yelling at me through the car, so I pulled over.
This is where my big balls come into play.
They pull over and the guy gets out of the car something.
I had a car and we're talking shit.
Then his girlfriend gets out twoon one.
Then I start talking shit with his girlfriend.
I push her. The guy just fucking stomps on
my face. I broke a face bone and then I

(01:13:26):
guess she went back to get her phone and the pair started
chasing her again. Fucking wild man.
Yeah, it's never a good idea to get a roadside confrontations.
They never end right. By the way, triple mania's at
8:00. Triple mania.

(01:13:47):
Nice. Oh wow. 8:00 Eastern.
HKPM. So that'd be 7:00 his time.
You see his face change at that.I saw it.
It's a little. Disappointed HK.
It's a little late, yeah. He's going.
To be sleeping by hold on 7:00 on a.

(01:14:08):
Saturday. Night not fucking late.
I wish it was at 7:00 in the morning, that would be perf.
You're a fucking mutant. Perf.
You're a mutant douche. What a fucking asshole.
You're a douche. You're a douche.
Perf. Yeah, perf.
Fucking perf. Hope your bowel's fucking
perfect. I hope you signed up for New
Japan again. Maybe I will.

(01:14:32):
Maybe you should. You haven't been the same since
you cancelled your New Japan subscription.
You think? Yeah.
I'll tell you what, I'm not cancelling my Max subscription
'cause I'm enjoying AW greatly. Fuck yes.
You don't need Max to watch AW, you know.
I know, but it was, it was, you know?

(01:14:54):
I like the Segway I thought. It was a decent Segway, yeah.
Now I didn't watch Collision so I can't comment on Collision.
I do. I will go back and watch
Collision though. I do I will I Do I do I?
Do I? Do I?
Will I do? I will.
We start the show off with a hotJon Moxley Mike Bailey match

(01:15:18):
which was really fucking good. Mike was fucking great.
But I do have a complaint. Go for it.
Death Riders come out. Marina Shafir, Wheeler, Yuda.
OK, they they come out. Mike Bailey comes out with Kevin
Knight, The black Kevin Knight. Are they fucking fist bumping

(01:15:39):
and Kevin Knight walks away? Well now what the fuck sense
does that make? I said the same thing when I was
watching it. Like where the fuck is Kevin
Knight? Why did?
He for him to come back out fiveminutes later, just he should
have just been there. This is not like the Death
Riders aren't doing anything different.
They do the same shame thing every week.
It's a numbers game. So Kevin Knight should have just
stayed with a fucking mouthpiece.

(01:16:00):
What? Mike Bailey, that's not a
mouthpiece. That's his real teeth.
Oh, it's a mouthpiece. We figured it out.
Nobody got. That white.
DDP. Does Bang really bang?
I thought it was a great match and I really would have liked

(01:16:22):
if, when Darby kidnapped Wheeler, that distraction had
costed Moxley the match. I thought it was going to.
They got me good with that one. When he clocked them with that
spin kick, I thought that was it.
Yeah, this is like the best, like, straight wrestling match
Moxley's looked in a long time. Yeah, I agree.

(01:16:47):
I fucking loved it. I thought it was great.
The spots on the fucking guardrail, the flips, the double
knees. Yep.
Highly entertaining stuff. The women's four way, it was
fine. I I don't get Alex Windsor.
Yeah, I just don't it's. Just like a new a new toy to
play with. Yeah, but she's just like Alex
Windsor and like she yelled. Like that's her thing.

(01:17:10):
I. Guess I don't watch.
What is it progress that they'redoing on?
With Rev. Pro or I think Rev Pro.
Does every like person of the UKhave to have like a quirky
personality? We could ask Kyle next time he
comes on. It's probably they they like
picking A or B quirky personality.
Me too. Either one bro dildo beat the

(01:17:34):
box, which I thought, yeah, bro dildo.
Great fucking match, fucking loved it.
And the Bucks entrance too, justagain, like they're doing a
great fucking job. Like the.
Oh, I watched this match, I watched this match was dog shit.
You're dog shit. Even after all this time they

(01:17:57):
fucking like you're going to wait for everybody to get in
place. OK, now boom, fuck off.
You didn't enjoy Max and Jeremy?No, I don't care that they're
fucking up there, Pyro and all this like.
Oh, they got to start over. Never.
Fucking. Fuck off.
They still have contracts, right?
Like like, why are they just starting over?

(01:18:18):
Because they're not Evps anymore.
Like what? Like what?
They're just. On the They can't make they're
on the roster now. Oh, so now the fucking people in
charge are fucking with them? Yes, that's it.
They're getting shitty. There's no repercussions.
They're not in charge. They can't punish them.
Yep. So they're going to ruin the
product just to make these guys look like fucking more?

(01:18:40):
Ruining the product at all. HK back me up on this brother.
Hold on, did you HK did you watch or did you?
I bet you he did. Sounds like he did.
So here's where. Here's where I'm at.
He watched it. I said, you know what, I'll go
back. And it was a.

(01:19:05):
Great day. No I no, I fucking wasn't.
I took a week off and I said, you know what I'll do?
I'll go back and what I'll do isI'll watch it until I'm fucking
over it. That's what I'll do.
I'll watch the show until I go, Nope, fuck this.
I'm done. It almost happened real quick in

(01:19:26):
that first match, real quick because I got don't fucking give
me that look. I will.
I will slap that look off your face with my balls.
So I'm watching, I'm watching the fucking match.
Kevin Knight comes back out, which you guys already made
point of, and then Marina Shafirgets in his face, gets in his

(01:19:48):
face to then do what? Calmly walk away?
What? What are you?
What are you fucking doing? What?
And she, she looks like she doesn't know what she.
She gets in the face. Oh, I'm here.
What are you gonna? And then she just calmly walks
away and it's OK. Doesn't matter.
Mike Bailey can flip and drop knees on guys.
Cool. Awesome.

(01:20:09):
Just keep doing that, buddy boy.Can't wait to see it again.
Maybe next day. You do it on the floor, I can do
it on the guardrail. I can do it in the ring.
Yeah. Do it 7 * a match.
Maybe then I'll give a shit about it then.
Then I'm like, you know, I'm gonna, I'm, I'm just, it's too
early for me to go. You know what?
I'm fucking out. It's too early for me to tap
out, right? So I keep going because I really

(01:20:29):
thought I should have. I kept going.
Then they get this fucking tits,tits, Tony tits and and and Alex
washhole out there and they fucking, they do this big kick
and walk away like I give a shitwhat they're doing.
They're they're making all these, you know, I don't know
what the fuck the innuendo's about shit.
I don't give a fucking care. I don't care.

(01:20:50):
And then, and then the death riders go out and they find a
body bag, woo, a body bag. And they unzipped that thing and
they should have zipped it rightthe fuck back up 'cause he
sucks. They unzipped the son of a bitch
to see Wheeler Yuda with a a piece of paper on his forehead
that says Forbidden door. And then Darby comes by and

(01:21:13):
honks. See you later, guys.
And I said fuck you. Click that motherfucker.
Oh. He stapled it on his head.
No, he fucking didn't. All right.
No, he fucking. Just staple shit on us and.
Get out of here with this shit. Get out of his.
Oh, you, You put him in a body bag and left him in the parking
lot and they found him, and thenthey unzipped it in a forbidden

(01:21:35):
door on his face. You know what that means?
That means that's a challenge. Darby Allen's going to challenge
him. He's going to challenge him.
Spooky. Darby is going to challenge.
Him do another fucking flip withyour knees, Jack OPS maybe?
Maybe I'd enjoy your opinion if you didn't like Larry's Abisco
so much. You really want my nuts in your

(01:21:57):
face? Wow.
That's OK, I'll service you. Wow.
Two weeks, bud. I just, I thought, I thought,
you know what? I'm I'm and you know what's
going to happen? I'm going to go back again next
week and I'm going to do the same thing.
I'm going to do the same thing and tell it until it frustrates
me. I go, OK, It's just fucking
stupid. Why are you getting, why are is
Marina Shafir getting in his face just to fucking walk away,

(01:22:19):
just to oh, I'm here, I'm here, what are you going to do?
I'm here, what are you going to do?
I'm here. What am I going to do?
You know what? I'll just go ahead and calmly
walk away. She be backed.
Them off with the cattle cutters.
Oh fuck. Also like you act like that's
never happened in any other wrestling promotion ever.
It doesn't matter where it happens, it's fucking stupid.
But when it happens in AW, it's magnified by you, magnified by

(01:22:43):
me. You're fucking losing your mind
over it. I'm losing my mind.
You're. Losing your mind right now.
He's fine. Yeah, no.
No. I don't know why you keep going
back though. I got to go back.
I got to go back. I took one week off.
I went back. But why?

(01:23:04):
Why would you? I didn't watch the whole thing.
If I didn't watch the whole thing I'd probably be taking a
shit right now. What?
What Rage, Rage shit. What's the rage shit?
Come on, guys, stay with me. Yeah, I I feel like I I just.
I didn't watch the. Whole thing, if it's not for
you, why watch it at all? Double T I'm trying, man, I'm

(01:23:26):
trying. Why would I try?
I love wrestling. I love wrestling too, but I'm
not sitting through Ron. Smackdown You.
Exactly. Because you hate wrestling,
that's. Yeah, you don't love wrestling.
It's not for me, you. Don't love it?
I don't give a shit about John Cena and Logan Paul.
Becky Lynch went from wrestling Lyra Valkyrie to fucking Nicky
Knockers. Are you kidding me?

(01:23:47):
What's wrong with Nicky Knockers?
So wait a second, would it be cool if Nick if Nicky Knockers
did a backflip knee drop on the?On the no.
But it'd be cool. It'd be cool if Becky went on to
work with Bailey or somebody whocan wrestle in the ring with her
and tell a fucking story insteadof Dustin off old fucking broken
tits and bringing her back just for nostalgia.

(01:24:09):
So I'm going to call Jericho when he comes back.
Yeah, fucking Piper Niven poppedone of her fuck fucked up one of
her implants a couple weeks ago when she jumped on her Nikki.
She's got. She's got oh, go, OK.
So say I didn't really. Yeah, Niven had the.
Had the enhancements. No, no, look, Naomi and Steph
ficor, I'm in. I like that.

(01:24:30):
I'm interested to see that it's different.
It's new. You like because they both have
big heinees. Yeah, you're a Heineman.
Hein, I I do want to say this. I love that Queen Amanada does
the Stephanie Mccour thing and they call it Chocolate Kisses.
EW, really? That's where you say I'll.

(01:24:54):
Why? No, because now chocolate
kisses. I'm thinking she's just going to
put turds on a fucking bitch. You put.
Fucking people eating cereal outof other people's mouth and you
say ill to a woman? They weren't eating shit out of
their person's mouth. I got recommended a.
Video I got recommended a video of toddlers grabbing their dogs
by the balls the other day. This is on Facebook.

(01:25:16):
I'm like how the fuck I'm like Ican't bring this to the show but
it was worth noting poor dogs. The poor dog is like, who's
grabbing my balls? I just, you ever see a dog when
he looks around and he's like, whoa, what's going on?

(01:25:36):
Yes, that's my impersonation of a dog.
I just don't get it. What don't?
What don't you get? The product is not this is what
AEW is. What AEW is is everything you
hate about wrestling. It's loose tag matches.

(01:25:59):
It's. They're not rules.
They're not letting the rules fall to the wayside.
There's. No.
Things you don't like, you don'tlike.
You don't like that Darby went beep beep in his truck?
So fucking stupid they fucking piss on my brain trying to make

(01:26:20):
me believe that they fucking. They.
Stapled that shit to Wheeler, you to said Golly, where's
jungle Jack? I don't know but I just don't
understand why you dropped off. The bridge.
Like, why would you? It feels like you're torturing
yourself, like you're a masochist.
No, I mean, I, I, I want it to be good.

(01:26:43):
I, I believe that it could be. I believe that it could be.
It's not, but it's not good for like, it's not good in your
eyes, but there's a lot of people who enjoy AW.
They can enjoy it. But you don't.
But then why watch? I got to watch.
What? I went back double TI took a
week off. Why you went back?

(01:27:04):
A fucking took a week off. You know what's funny is that I
thought really long and hard about not going back.
Like usually I just, you know, Thursday morning, Click, click,
start, start the play button, let's watch it.
You know the thing pisses me off.
Why do they have fucking commercials when I'm watching
the replay? What the fuck's going on there?
Cut the commercials get. That shit out of there, you
could Fast forward through the commercials, you know that.

(01:27:28):
It's already enough work turningthe shit on, man.
I'm not going to fuck this work,you know?
It's enough work. You walk it through the fucking
Shire. Yeah, it's too much.
It's too much. And then MJF did the same thing
and I fucking love, I love MJ FMJF was the reason I used to

(01:27:48):
fight. Like that'd be the guy I'd point
to. Like I I still love MJF.
It's too, it's too much low hanging fruit too often.
It's, you know, it's, it's, it'sjust that there's got to be
something more there. There just has to be.
And right now there's there's not, there's no more hurt
business. The way they kicked him out of
the hurt business was fucking stupid.

(01:28:09):
No, it wasn't. It was.
No, it wasn't. He was all about him.
He wasn't about them. It's.
Just fucking stupid. No, it's not they they spent
fucking what, two months of him?Trying to get in there and he's
in and how they end it is. Just going like this.
I mean, that's how he got in. Oh fuck.

(01:28:31):
That. Because he barged in after their
title defense and he was like me, me, me.
Where were you guys for me? They couldn't, they couldn't do
anything. My.
Title. They couldn't do my.
Title they did all this bullshit.
Bullshit. To bring them in and they all
they do to kick them out is this.

(01:28:52):
There's no story to him getting kicked out.
There was a story. Oh, there was a week you didn't
watch before? MVP could explain.
It was. It was the week I skipped.
Yeah, last last this week. You turned it off before MVP
could explain. This is why I can't turn it off.
I don't know you're going to heat it.

(01:29:15):
You're going to dislike it, but they planted the seeds for if
Max is champion, Bob's coming after him.
Now who gives a shit? Yeah, I'm fucking, I'm done with
Shoehorn and MJF into groups just to have them fight with
them. It's dumb.
It's dumb. We can't think of any other

(01:29:37):
reason for MJF to feud with somewith a group.
Because MJF is an opportunist. He latches on and he uses people
like we just take the ring away from him already.
He keeps one of those diamond fucking battle Royals.
Hey, where's Cheeseburger Eddie?I heard he was putting videos
out. Is he coming back?
He's getting, he's, you know, getting his, getting his,

(01:30:03):
getting his health back. He's getting in back in the
shape. Is he?
Yeah. His shape, That's pretty funny.
They set up MDF and and mark wasgreat.
Fantastic match. Yeah, absolutely.

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Great stuff, we got it there. Okada and Swerve is set for
Forbidden Door. You watching Forbidden Door?
No, it's the day of the BBQ. Good.
Sorry, there's a lot of things Iput on on hold to watch
wrestling. I'm not fucking missing my BBQ
for Forbidden Door. Neither am I.

(01:30:49):
But look, I enjoyed, I enjoyed Dynamite and I look forward to
watching Collision. I only caught the main event, a
collision six man six man tag was it was hangman and jet speed
versus LFI. Fucking great, lot of fun, loved
it. What are you shaking your head

(01:31:09):
about? I just, I don't get a double T
fucking nothing's changed. Nothing's changed with the
product, Yes, but. Nothing's changing.
You. But.
Nothing's changed for the product, but all of a sudden now
you love it. Look at a month ago you were
shitting all over the son of a bitch.
Nothing's changed. Now they're like oh it's fucking

(01:31:30):
great, fuck, gotta watch. Great match.
It was awesome, great match. Love it, fucking love it.
Fucking. Love it.
Things have changed though. Things haven't changed for you
and those things that you don't like about AW aren't going to
change, right? You expect A tag growth?
No, man, I. Expect the referee to count 5.

(01:31:53):
It's not going to happen. I'm.
You know what in fucking you know in in two months, I'm just
going to wait you out. I'm I'm just going to wait you
out because in too much you'll do the you'll do the fucking
turn again and then and then you'll be fine again.
Just just wait. Just going to wait you out all.
Right. Wait me out.
I'm going. To wait you out.
Put it on the calendar. Two months.
I'll be, I'll be, I'll be on theother side waiting for you,

(01:32:15):
buddy. October 11th.
Yeah. So you cancels that day.
What a Dick. Is there anything at oh, before
we get the homework, man, just to call, I guess I'm it's, it's

(01:32:37):
kind of a, a troubling piece of information, but we just found
out the other day that Jonathan Gresham had fucking 2 strokes,
37 years old. He just wrestled fucking
Bloodsport last weekend. Horrifying.
Absolutely let. Me.

(01:33:01):
See unbelievable. They said it could have been a
complication from a bad case of COVID he had a couple weeks ago
but they don't know the exact reason.
Everything came back clean, thenMRI said he had two strokes, 37
years old. Dude's a fucking brick
shithouse. He's in crazy shape.
Yeah, he is. Fucking but.

(01:33:21):
He's in great shape. Yeah, fucking why?
He's fucking awesome too. He's a dude who deserves to be
on fucking TVI don't know what happened with him in TNA.
He was doing that octopus thing and then he was gone.
Yeah, yeah. Not that fucking octopus.
And some fucking Portland wrestling.

(01:33:48):
They thought it would be a good idea to book Joey Ryan for a
show. I see no problem with it.
Dude, you know what double double T I'm I'm I had I was
thinking about this, not a conversation the here.
Here's my issue. Here's my issue right.
Was he ever charged with anything?

(01:34:11):
I'm going. Somewhere with this?
Just stay with me, no? No I know, I just don't want to
speak out of turn and say no or yes 'cause I don't know a
definite answer to this. OK, so as far as I know he
hasn't, he hasn't been charged with anything and I don't know
that with 100% certainty. But the the problem is, is that
from all accounts, he's he's done all the things he can do to

(01:34:34):
turn his life in the right direction, whatever that
direction, you know what I mean?Maybe from where he was.
No, no, no, no, no, that's that all, everything, all the
accounts is that he's trying to,he's trying to make right.
He's trying to do right with hislife.
Now, how come, how come he can'tmake right if motherfuckers
don't let him, if motherfuckers decide that there's Nope, sorry,

(01:34:57):
nothing to do with you no matterwhat, not even if not even if
you're making right, don't give a shit.
Like, how does somebody fucking redeem themselves?
How if nobody allows them to redeem themselves?
You're just supposed to write the motherfucker off for life,
Sorry. Baby he did something so bad he
doesn't deserve to be re redeemed.
Did he if he fucking molested somebody?

(01:35:19):
By all accounts, yes, he did do some pretty horrific shit, and
if you put him back into that environment where he's in a
position to do it again, do you want to be the promoter who's
responsible for booking him? Of course you don't.
But you, you have to give peoplethe opportunity to change.
People have to have the opportunity to redeem

(01:35:41):
themselves. OK.
But he can have that opportunityand we both know people who have
had issues and we both think that putting them in an
environment where those vices maybe is not a good idea, right?
Like we know people who have arerecovering Alcoholics.

(01:36:04):
So bringing them to a place thathas alcohol or there's people
partying and friends or drinking, probably not a good
idea to have him there because the the chances of him, oh,
maybe I'll just have one. Well, we know he can't have one
because he's going to have 24 and it's a problem.
Maybe letting him back into thisenvironment where he got away

(01:36:27):
with it before gives him the opportunity.
Maybe not this time, but the next booking maybe.
Maybe you know what I mean? I just, I just, I, I believe, I
believe that people, people should have, people should have
the opportunity to. Redeem right, but but you're in
you me and you've had conversations.
Maybe isn't good enough though. We don't want to risk that.

(01:36:50):
We don't want to be responsible for that person having a
relapse. Of course, of course you don't.
Of course you don't. Yeah, but you, I mean, look,
people still have to live their lives too.
I mean, just because, you know, somebody who's recovering, goes
into a bar, doesn't mean they'regoing to have a drink.
And if the temptation's there, then maybe they decide that they

(01:37:11):
don't want to be there, you knowwhat I'm saying?
Like, you have to take people where like, hey, I can be
comfortable being around other people drinking.
I don't, I don't need to drink. They it's, it's, I think it's
their decision, you know, from their own willpower and their
own mental stability as to whether or not they'd be able to
get on with that. And some people can't and that's

(01:37:32):
fine. You know, then those people
shouldn't put themselves in thatsituation.
Look, people have done heinous shit.
So like, if somebody's molestingkids, I don't think you want to
put them in fucking as an employee at Disney World, you
know what I'm saying? But that doesn't mean like you
should write people off completely.
Like where I draw the line is let a motherfucker go get a job

(01:37:54):
and earn a living somewhere. Stop calling the fucking places
and saying, hey, you know, this guy did XY and Z.
Like what kind of punishment is that?
I wonder how many people? I wonder how many people serve
their time for like, attempted murder or murder or something
fucking completely like heinous.Like, do you call their jobs?
You know, this motherfucker murdered somebody?

(01:38:14):
No, 'cause he'd probably fuckingmurder.
You like the temptations there? Yeah, I mean, I get, but I, I
get your point. But like he had, he was in the
wrestling business. He has an opportunity.
He fucked it up, right. You're a promoter, you send a
girl to pick him up the airport and then he's fucking fondling
this girl while she's trying to pick him up.

(01:38:35):
But she's a fucking, she's six months into the business.
Well, maybe you don't sense a girl or anybody to pick you up.
And you don't think that like This is why we're in this
situation 'cause you were like, oh, I know Joey, he's a fucking
good guy. I'll send X to go pick him up
and she's not going to say anything because he says you
fucking tell somebody. I'll make sure you never work a

(01:38:56):
day in your life in this business.
Happen to somebody? We know Tony with him, so you
can't put him back in that environment.
A tiger doesn't change his stripes.
He can go on and get a job at fucking Jiffy Lube and all this

(01:39:17):
other shit. He don't he had.
The right to be in the world of professional wrestling and he
abused his privileges and now heshouldn't be allowed back in.
He can go about the rest of his fucking daily life.
Get a job at Jiffy Lube, go to the Walmart, pick up a fucking
figure. Yeah, but, but, but, but I'll
stop you there because you know,and I know that there's been
assholes that have gone on to fucking call people's jobs and

(01:39:40):
get them fired. But that over stupidity.
I look, I can't speak to anybodybut like that.
But when he's on a wrestling poster, it don't look good for
anyone in the wrestling business.
And it's not like it was one person, too.
He had 17 people speak out against them. 17. 17.

(01:40:04):
That's a fucking lot of people. Yeah, and it was a bunch of
different shit. It was like grooming and you
know, assault advances all, all sorts of shit.
What do you think in HKI? Just, you know, I'd, and again,
I'm not, I'm, I'm no Joy Ryan apologist.

(01:40:24):
I mean, I, I put that out there,but I just, I, I, I really
believe in, in, in people's abilities to change their ways.
I really, I really do. I believe that if people are
making strides to change and improve themselves, you have to,
you have to acknowledge, you have to allow them to.

(01:40:46):
If, if the only court that he's guilty in is the court of public
opinion, then then that's not, that's really not fair to to
him. You know what I mean?
It's it's, it's not, I don't, I,I don't know what charges, not
charges anything that he did that's that's horrible, not
good, not good on him. But I mean, like, I, I just, I
really believe that there's, there should be a chance for a

(01:41:09):
guy to live his fucking life, you know what I mean?
Like there should be an opportunity for somebody to, to
show that they've changed. But if you don't give somebody
the opportunity to show that they've changed, then they're
always just going to be that person.
They're always just going to be blackballed.
You get a job at Jiffy Lube. Some wrestling fan could drives
the drive through a Jiffy Lube. They're they're on Twitter.
Hey, do you know that this he heworks at Jiffy Lube Now the

(01:41:32):
pitchforks come out, He's fired from Jiffy Lube like the what's
the motherfucker supposed to do?Just shoot himself.
Thought about that before you'refucking sexually abusing people.
You're not wrong, people T You're not wrong.
You're not wrong. Right.
We can't, we can't continue to be like, oh, actions don't have
consequences like. No, you do you.
Were given a privilege to be in the pro wrestling business,

(01:41:53):
where your main job in the ring is to protect the person you're
working with. And you took advantage of that.
You took it outside the ring andyou took the trust of other
people who sent people to pick you up, people to be around you.
And he fucking abused it and he didn't think about, oh, I'm not

(01:42:14):
going to get in trouble for this.
What's going to happen to me? He deserves everything he
fucking. Gets.
So what? But what about an act of
contrition? Like what if he's like,
genuinely sorry, OK, but he doesn't belong in the wrestling
industry, though. He shouldn't be allowed back in.
There. Needs to be a line in the sand.

(01:42:35):
It's fucking 2025. It's not fucking 1987 anymore.
You can't fucking Jimmy fucking Del Rey a girl and fucking call
it a down. Let's.
Leave. Let's leave Gigolo Jimmy out of
this, but I. Mean can you Jimmy Snook a girl?
No, you shouldn't be able to Jimmy snook a girl.
I'm just saying maybe you shouldn't have Jimmy as a

(01:42:55):
gimmick name either. I mean, what Jimmy says, hey,
you walk into a locker room and he and he's there, and you got
female friends who are in the wrestling business.
Like, you're OK with that? Yeah, that's true, man.
Like, what if it was somebody that you worked with, somebody
you were close with? What if it was, God forbid, your
daughter or your sister? Yeah, no, no, I and like, I
understand, like I understand all angles, you know what I

(01:43:17):
mean? I I really do.
And I'm not, I'm not defending, I'm not standing here saying,
hey, he should, he should be on every, every show that anybody
will book anything like that. But like to completely say no,
like he is always going to be this.
There's there, he's he's never going to change anything like

(01:43:38):
that. I mean, fucking Johnny be bad
was dealing coke to motherfuckers.
You know what I mean? Like people have the ability
within them to to change their ways and and.
But I think there's a big difference between dealing coke
and robbing a Wendy's like Booker T, Yeah, and fucking
sexually abusing somebody. The Steiners were shoving shit

(01:43:59):
up other guy's ass. I mean you and that's.
Sexual. Assault you and probably want to
be gross right all the time. But I mean, I'm not wrong there.
That is sexual. Assault.
They're, they're still revered, right?
Bill DuMont lost his job 'cause he was fucking making people eat
Jelly doughnuts out of each other's asses.
Yeah. Yeah, it's, it's it's.

(01:44:20):
Sounds about right should you should lose your fucking job for
that. It's just, it's, I think it's a,
it's a, it's a tough, it's a tough one.
It's a. It's a.
I'm all for it if he wants to change his life and look, if
you're if you see him in a fucking jiffy Lube and you want
to shit on like you're just a fucking jerk off, let the guy
fucking live. But I don't think he deserves

(01:44:41):
any. He lost the privilege to be a
part of the wrestling industry and be in the business, and I
don't think he should be allowedback in that that honestly, that
should be punishment enough. Now, I don't know.
I don't believe it. I but I I'm not sure that anyone
pressed charges against him. So it's not like he was found

(01:45:03):
guilty of any wrongdoing. However, you know, when 17
stories come out, that's a different story.
You know what I mean? Like it's not like 01 person
like, you know, like one person accused him of something and
nothing came of it. And you know, like that, that
was bullshit enough during me to, you know, to get you fucked
with. I don't think it, I don't think

(01:45:25):
people stood up for him either too.
It would be different if like, let's say like one or two people
come out saying this or this, and then let's say like a
Candace Larae says, oh, no, Joey's great or this or that
that. None of that happened either.
It's tough man. I agree with Double T.
It's a fucking it's a tough spot.
It's a tough crack. Yeah, it is.

(01:45:48):
But I mean, I don't think I'd have a problem booking Drew
Gulak on the show even though. He was accused.
What beyond does? They wouldn't book him.
No, they do they. Do book him, but you see
something like that, but he I'm just saying like that was an

(01:46:08):
accusatory thing. You know, some people could have
lost their minds over it, but it's.
Like they don't book his brother.
Oh well, his brother's a fuckingdifferent, different fucking
animal. A lot of, there's a lot of
people like him. There's a, there's a fucking
laundry list. I mean, I mean HK, to be honest
with you, if fucking Buck got out of prison, I don't think I

(01:46:32):
would book Buck. Well, no, no, no.
You know what I mean. Yeah.
No, I I completely understand what you're saying there.
And I get it. I get it.
There's, I mean, it's not, I don't think there's any one.
I don't think there's any one right answer.
You know what I mean? Like, I, I I really, I really
don't, you know what I mean? Like, there's not if, if you're
gonna, if you're gonna, you know, if, if, if you're fucking

(01:46:54):
running the Jiffy Lube, you're gonna hire him.
I probably would. He's doing oil changes.
You know what I mean? Like, yeah.
Like, I mean, look, it's always a big deal when when felons get
out of prison, nobody wants to hire a felon.
Nobody wants the baggage, but there's still like decent people
out there will give, you know, this guy or this girl a shot

(01:47:15):
when they get out of prison. And I don't think there's I
don't think there's anything wrong with doing that.
But I see where Double TS comingfrom, like kind of lost the
privilege to be part of that brotherhood, you know?
I back in the day when I worked for a place where I was able to
hire people, I interviewed a guyonce that talked about, you

(01:47:37):
know, developing photos and he mentioned, oh, I loved it
because all the hot girls in thephotos, you get to look at them.
And I was like, fucking red flag.
I don't want this guy working here, for one, bringing it up
during an interview until like, yeah, I don't want him.
But he was just looking at him like he wasn't making copies for
himself, right? Wink, wink.
I would hope not. No copies.

(01:47:59):
Look at the titties making cafes.
We got Beaver. I'm joking because it's
hypothetical. That would be awful if your
daughter, God forbid, sent in a fucking 35mm camera to get
developed and her naughty bits were on there.
People, come on now. Yeah, yeah.
Yep, it happened. All right, we had a serious

(01:48:22):
conversation. Now I think it's time we have
another serious conversation. Oh no, HK, you assigned us some
homework. I did.
Oh no. This week.
Oh no. And you took us back to what,
March 23rd, 2011 for Jerry EffinLynn's final show, The Last

(01:48:47):
Effin Show. Yeah.
Why did you give us this homework assignment, Sir?
So I wanted to a couple of reasons.
One, I wanted, I wanted to, I wanted to go to the Indies.
You know what I mean? I wanted to, I wanted to do
something on the Indies. I wanted to go to to a show that
I've been to. This is my wife's first indie
show, so she is she was kind of spoiled, spoiled in that in that

(01:49:10):
respect, where this is the very first indie show she got to go
to and it was Jerry Lynn's retirement match.
I had a great time at this show.Fantastic show.
I originally it was actually scheduled to be A tag match, and
that changed somewhere along along the way, so in.
The in the commentary. Yep, I just, I don't know, a

(01:49:32):
little, little bit of nostalgia.I was thinking about, you know,
I, I had a great time at the shows.
I had spent with Jerry Lynn herea couple months back and and I
went, you know, I, I've seen Jerry wrestle a a handful of
times. He's always been he was great to
me in the locker room and beforeI was in the locker room.
He was great to me as just a fan, just going up and chatting
with him. He always took he always took

(01:49:52):
time. He's always been such a such a
sweet guy. And this was the match went, you
know what, I'm going to go to Indies.
I'm going to go to one that I went to that indie show that
I've been to. This is a great indie show.
And then this is the match I picked.
When you were at the show, yeah,you were having a good time.
You were not watching the matches, were you?
What? Do you mean?

(01:50:13):
Like you weren't watching this match and you're like, this is a
great match. No, no, I wasn't watching the
match going Oh my gosh, this is a fucking, you know, 28 star
fucking rock hard bone type of amatch.
It a lot of it was more a lot ofit was more like the meaning of
what it was to Jerry. That was cool to me.
You know what I mean? Like him coming up with with X

(01:50:34):
POC, like he wrestled X POC at my very first fucking indie
show, you know what I mean? Like it wasn't it was lightning,
it was lightning cannibal, whatever he was at the time.
And those two were doing shit that I'd never seen before at
that point. Like it was it was incredible.
Horse the psychopath. You know, it has is history with
JB Trask, who's who's he's kind of a fuck nut, but like he's got

(01:50:59):
a lot of history there too. So to bring all these guys
together, all Minnesota guys that came up through the like
the the same time now, obviouslythey're they're all a couple of
steps, you know, a couple of steps past, you know, we, we, we
can all agree on that. But it was the meaning of the
match. Like I thought it was awesome.
That's what he did for his his farewell match was bringing in
all these guys that he he kind of came up with guys that were,

(01:51:20):
I mean, in Minnesota indie wrestling through the through
the 80s and early 90s. And JB Trask was he was a big
deal, a horse. The psychopath was a was a big
deal. Obviously Jerry Lynn, huge deal,
Xbox, huge deal. Like this is this is this is
cool for for a Minnesota fan, You know what I mean?
I dig it. I dig it.
When did now? After you saw the match right

(01:51:43):
live. How long before you watched it
on tape? Probably a couple of years.
I'm, I'm, I'm guessing it was probably at least 2016, 2017,
something like that. Because for a while the entire
event was available on YouTube. The the entire show start to
finish, whatever was 2 and 42, two hours, 40 minutes, something

(01:52:06):
like that. The whole thing was was was
available. I thought was cool.
Scrap daddy wrestled that night.You know what I mean?
Like there's there's some cool guys to see to see wrestle.
Tommy Dreamer was was on the carand Saboo.
Ran it down. Next week, Yeah.
It was like Al. Snow and the Meanie.
Yeah, yeah. And Rhino.
Rhino fucked up the High Roller man he gave.

(01:52:28):
And that, that high roller's an old motherfucker.
He speared them straight to hell.
That was something wild at that show.
The High Roller. Yeah, he was a manager.
Love it. Yeah.
Love it, Tony. Well, I wanna see what's your
thought of the match here. Lots of bellies in this match.
Oh, X Pouch and JB Fat. Gotcha.

(01:52:51):
Oh, don't forget Horace the fucking eat a path.
Eat a path. Yeah, 'cause he fucking, he's
big, he fucking just eats a paththrough everything.
Just through the cornfield, justeverything.
I couldn't tell if he had sneakers on the wrestling boots.
The wrestling boots. Oh, OK.
Yeah. I knew who Horace the Psychopath

(01:53:12):
was from like old Pwis. I would see his name a lot.
I think the commentary team didn't realize it wasn't an
elimination match until XPOC broke up a pin at one point and
then they were like oh is this first pin wins?
Yeah. I think it is, you know.
Also, where were they sitting where they couldn't see the

(01:53:33):
action? I do.
Well, you don't have monitors when you're fucking doing
independent wrestling. So if shit's going on on one
side of the ring, you don't necessarily see it.
They because they weren't at ring.
Mike Johnson was at ringside, but they weren't at ringside.
Yeah, HK, where were you? Sitting.
I didn't see you. So if you go, we were opposite
side of the entrance and we're probably maybe 5 rows back kind

(01:53:59):
of middle, middle of the ring he.
Didn't get a bro hug from Jerry Lynn at the end.
No, no, we stayed, we stayed forthe speech and and I say I've,
I've talked to Jerry up quite a few times at that point and, and
part of me was like, man, he's just going to, he's going to hug
absolutely everybody's a hangoutwith everybody.
So I just, I stayed back and hung out for a little bit and

(01:54:21):
then we decided we decided to head out because he did he
afterwards, he didn't go straight to the back.
He came right outside of the barricade and fucking everybody
talked to. He's such a sweet person.
Were you tempted to jump in the ring with the celebration going
on? No, no I was not.
See Ask Brendo. I was the first Jackass to jump
in with the mighty Maccabee 1. Oh.

(01:54:41):
You. Sure were.
Yeah, you were. If I hopped that guardrail, I
fucking jumped right through theropes.
They said pictures with Mida andby Mida Tony was in the ring
throwing kids out of the way. I appreciate the fact that
Horace like no soul to drop kickin the corner and still did a

(01:55:03):
cannonball. The fucking JT pouch.
Oh that's that's OK for you. No, no no.
You know what else was OK? When Jerry Lynn hit the fucking
gotch pile driver and X POC Horace just kind of flopped into
camera view but didn't make contact.
And it wasn't the fucking break up of the pin they all thought
it was and nobody knew what was going on.
No, not at all. You know what, I for what it

(01:55:26):
was, I was kind of surprised that two other guys were in
there other than Jerry Lynn and XPOC 'cause I didn't know that
these guys had a history at all.I can think it was at least at
the beginning. I was like, this is kind of a
bummer that this is Jerry Lynn'slast match, to be honest with
you. But in fairness, for an indie

(01:55:46):
match with a couple of Indian, Indian Jesus, a couple of indie
guys. Take it easy, Kemosabe.
Write that down a couple Indian guys I'm.
Already writing it down. No, I, I, I thought, I thought
overall it was a pretty good match.
Was a match of the year? No, but would I have booked this

(01:56:07):
match for a send off for Jerry Lynn?
Not necessarily, but I thought for an indie match it was.
It was a good match. This is probably what he wanted
though too. It was like a yeah, HK said.
You know, he has history with all these guys.
You know, the fact that it's a four way too probably helps gets
him a little. He doesn't have to worry about
living up to something, going 20minutes with POC or something

(01:56:30):
like that. And his finale, you know he can
get a breath or two. Some guys want JB Trasks.
Some guys want fucking Logan. Paul.
Column A column. B Column A Column B Brundo, wait
wait. Did Brundo give us his thoughts?
No, no I don't. Want those thoughts?
1st. I actually enjoyed this.

(01:56:53):
I, you know, I I like Horace thepsychopath.
Yeah. Horgan.
Horace Olgan the psychopath. The couple of times I've seen
him, you know, this was, I can'tsay much more than, you know, I
just really enjoy. I did enjoy this match.
I thought it was a fine set off for Jerry Lynn.

(01:57:15):
This is the match that X Pock rips his asshole up too, right?
Thank you Brundo flock. I was going to say, did nobody
notice it? No, I noticed it, but I was
like, it can't be this match because I would have thought it
would have been a bigger oversell.
And I'm just like, oh, maybe maybe he's just selling the fact
because he had blown his assholeout before and like, you know,
kind. Of no, he was grabbing at that

(01:57:36):
asshole after. But this was really the blowout.
Yeah, yeah. All right, this was a perfect
send off for Jerry Lynn. Then and he did a lot of shit
after he ripped his ass of. Course he did.
He was. In the he was on.
The camera, it was wide open. Did The X Factor off the through
the table, the horror, the. Horror.
Yes. That was a cool.

(01:57:57):
That was a cool spot. That was a cool spot through.
The DP table. Yeah, X Factor through the
table, Horace yelling knee and then doing the knee.
The shining Wizards to Jerry Lynn very AW like.
The no selling very AW like. The dives very AW like.
Wow. I thought, you know I.

(01:58:18):
Thought about it too in the beginning.
Xbox kicks a chair in the Lynn'sface.
How many fucking chairs has beenkicked into Jerry Lynn's face
over? There.
Well, he had to take that spot. I mean, come on.
Yeah, yeah. Many the fucked up finish for AW
like it was a very AWI felt he had some Kevin's like longing

(01:58:38):
because he missed a week of AW. He was like I need to watch
something that reminds me of AEW.
It was interesting. The commentating was atrocious.
If the a if the AWA was still around.
Come on guys, it's fucking 2011.Are you fucking kidding me?
This was very, I mean, I get it and I appreciate it, but this

(01:59:04):
was a very Minnesota show. I don't know what that means.
Double T. It was very nostalgic for anyone
from the Minnesota area, right? Like you said, like the three of
us, we didn't know why JB Trask or Horrors were involved in the
match until you explained it to us tonight.
Like going into it, I was like, who are these two other fucking

(01:59:25):
circus clowns, right? But it's a very, it's a send
off. He's from Minnesota.
These guys are part of the scene.
Like it makes sense now, but going into it at 6:00 when I
turned it on, saw it was 34 minutes and I want to throw
myself out of my top story window.
So I didn't, I didn't. I didn't remember the match
being that long. Well, it wasn't because there

(01:59:48):
was the whatever afterwards I didn't watch.
The speech that I. Tried to watch it, I couldn't
understand a word they were fucking saying.
I mean, it's some of the buildings you.
You mean indie mic work wasn't sounding great?
Are you kidding? Hard to believe, I know.
It also didn't know it was wherexpac blew out his asshole, so

(02:00:08):
that's doubly impressive. Yeah, yeah, he definitely did
that. Yikers.
Yep. Well, Jerry, what I said he
still works for AW, right? What?
He still works for AW, doesn't he?
He. Works for?
AW, yeah. Oh, I.
Mean so all this great booking from 2011 found its way into
2025. Matt.

(02:00:30):
There you go. I thought it was fun, but I'm
just going to, I'm going to calllike I see it, brother.
Well, double T, double T the thean an indie show is a little bit
different, is a little bit different platform than a show
on HBO. You know what?
He KHK makes a point. OK.

(02:00:52):
So would you not hold that the product that's on TV to a higher
standard or? No, no, it's AW.
There's no AW, OK? It's for the sickos.
OK, All right, let's just wantedto see.
Just want to see. Just want to see.
Glad you liked it. Yeah, it was fun.
Good. It was fun.
More facts that I know now made me enjoy it more than I did when

(02:01:15):
I watched. The the when horse, the
psychopath, when he, when he took that drop kick and ran out
of the corner to hit the cannonball.
Yeah. So that that's a spot that he
would do pretty frequently. It'd be in the corner and a guy
would a guy would run and, you know, hit him with a knee or hit
him, whatever it is. And then he'd a lot of the time
if they went back to the buckle or they're going off the ropes,

(02:01:35):
he after he took the shot, he'd fire up and fuck him up.
Like that's that was part of hisstick.
It was like it's one fire up essentially is.
There you go. Double T Japanese rustling in
Minnesota. I am not the one who complaints
about the no selling on the Shining Woods Wrestling podcast.
No, but he was like, it was likefighting spirit.
Oh no, I understood the commentators put it over.
Of course they did. They did a great Yeah, it really

(02:01:57):
woke him up. And you know what?
We we might go to more we might go to more JB Trash next time
through because him and him and his his guy was his grandfather,
his uncle, Uncle Godbuster Sodbuster, Kenny J Yeah, yeah.
Tell me you watch wrestling fromthe Midwest without telling me

(02:02:19):
you watch wrestling from the Midwest.
This guy's sodbuster. Remember he loves the sodbuster
I. Guess what is a sodbuster?
He busts sod. Yeah, man, it's kind of he.
Fucks up your lawn, dude. Is he like a shovel?
Like what is he? Yes.
Yeah, he's a shovel. There's.

(02:02:40):
A deer like the deer. The deer around here, they eat
all your grass there. Are they sod Busters?
No, he had he he actually didn'thave a sod company in Minnesota.
So smart. He's like a ghost Buster.
He comes to the ring with a fucking leaf blower on his back.
That's some straight up Carney wrestling shit.
Like I'm in the sod business, soI will call myself the Sod

(02:03:01):
Buster and then double the pleasure, double the fun.
I love that. Why would you be the SOD layer
if you were in the SOD business?Right.
Maybe we'll, maybe we'll look at.
Some because then you're laying down for pins.
You bust the sod, you don't lay it.
I don't. Know, I mean, I guess what does
the cage match have on the sodbuster?
Yeah, but Ghostbusters are killing ghosts like sodbusters

(02:03:23):
you would think would be killingSod now.
The Ghostbusters weren't killingghosts, they were trapping
ghosts. Were they trapping them?
Yeah, they never. Is he trapping Sod?
Hey, if he was a superhero, would he say Neil before Sod?
Would he be? Would he be sod Lesnar he.
Wants to be in my gimmick, man. Justin, I see you in the chat

(02:03:45):
brother. Very funny.
Justin Kenny. Kenny J Kenny J The Sod Buster.
He just recently died too. Yep, sure did.
That's unfortunate. Get a moment of silence for the
sod Buster. That's not our gimmicks.
Why are you trying to steal everybody's gimmicks?
I'm trying to make HK feel at home.
You shit all over his fucking favorite wrestling match of all

(02:04:07):
time. I didn't.
First of all, I didn't shit all over and I said it was fun.
Not. My favorite match so.
Thumbs up around the horn. Are we still on a streak?
Yeah. Yeah, yeah, fuck.
Well, now you guys aren't going to like my picks.
Why would you do that? Because you were like, wait,
what did you write to me? I'll tell you exactly what I

(02:04:29):
said. Can I read?
Let me read this. I want to read it as you.
Hold on. Oh, how about I read it as me?
No, I want to read it as you. You can read it as me.
What a hunk of indie dog shit. This was Homework was his
homework. I didn't think it was.
Completely. Terrible, but also I didn't
watch the celebration either didI?
The shitty match was enough for me.

(02:04:51):
I don't know why Horace or Baldyhad to be in it.
JB fat and X pouch. They were all tubby.
Was The Hobbit in the crowd I think.
I think so. Dude I hated it and it had all
the bad things in it that he complaints about.
How do I take you seriously? Double T you fucking turned on.

(02:05:13):
This match. He gave me more things.
He gave me more information. I'm.
Going to give you more things. Right, I went into it not
knowing all these factoids. X pop blow it out his asshole.
Super impressive that he actually completed the match and
did all that stuff. Didn't know the significance of

(02:05:35):
JB Trask and Horace. Yeah, yeah.
So it's the more you learn. This is, I believe this is all X
Pop was dating Ryan Shamrock as well, because she was there
signing autographs and everybody's like, what the fuck
is? Why is she here?
Is she signing like nobody remembers her?
Why is she? All right, get a guess.

(02:05:56):
I'm going to Ryan Shamrock autograph.
Perry. Perry Saturn was there.
Nice guy. Oh yeah.
Oh God, Luke Hawkes was there. The blue genie was there.
Here's a fun little thing beforewe move on to to what Tony has
assigned us. Kenny J last held A tag team
championship with Buck Zoom Hawkin 2001.

(02:06:25):
Wow, was it? Was it?
Oh, go ahead. Was it FLWA?
Do you think Kenny J paid Buck? Well played.
Oh boy, give. Him, some cheeses all.

(02:06:46):
Right. We got a little silence straw
bug zoom off. See, that's a whole.
Had him in the pool. Or again, I got to do a pool.
Update too. It's been a we've been, it's
been a while since we heard anything, but let's talk about
Tony's homework. I've got three matches picked
everything ticks a particular box.
Oh boy, who wants to pick? All right, I'll go with Brundo

(02:07:12):
all. Right.
Brundo, give me a letter. AB or CB, we're going back to
New Year's Revolution 2006 from January 8th of that year.
We are going with the Bron Panties Gauntlet match.
Yes, Ashley. Missouri, Candace, Michelle,

(02:07:34):
Maria, Tori Wilson and Victoria participants.
I'm kind of glad you picked thatone.
Because what happens B for the Brundo the.
Other ones were pretty wolf. They will go.
Back into the pool though, because I think they do have
some value to them. Why?
Why? Because I really thought the
streak was going to be over. And who doesn't like some bra

(02:07:56):
and panties matches? And who doesn't like a bra and
panties match? With five women's, that means
four of them are going down to their bras and.
Panties, you got AB and P gauntlet match.
Fuck yeah. This is this is this works.
You and I mean, we work. We understand.
Well, it's a good thing Bruno pick B because I don't think you
would have liked A or C. Damn.

(02:08:19):
ARC with some Jersey cow Jesse Wolf fucking matches.
But don't worry, don't get into rotation at some point.
Why? Why?
Because it's fun. It's titties and asses my.
Favorite things about women's? Wrestling don't worry I have a
couple of wolfs in the in the garage of pics I have.
Well, see, I didn't try and go on a Wolf Street.

(02:08:40):
I just wanted to. I wanted to go into you.
I wanted to see. But you.
Do understand from those texts that that that Matt and I read
where I was going I. Can't take that motherfucker
seriously. You know I'm still here.
I Oh yeah, that's right. He's all, he's all.
I hate this piece of shit. Where's, where's the fucking
Hobbit? And now he's like.
I don't, I said, where's The Hobbit?
No, no, no, no, no. I was reading what Tony said.

(02:09:03):
He was reading what I said. He called you a Hobbit.
Tony, you motherfucker, you're like quarter inch taller than I
am. It was a ton of endearment, Sir.
All right, well then that's endearing.
I like picking you up, giving you a little tussle on your bald
head, and giving. You a little cuddle all those.
Forgiveness. Well, noogie, you know, maybe
1/4 foot when I was reading me. No, we rolly versed.

(02:09:24):
Yeah, come on HK brother, if it'll make you feel better water
services on me next week. Oh.
Man, what about the week when I'm there?
Because I'm not. I'm going to be there to call
every. Week.
Oh, is it in next week? No.
Next week, no. What's the BBQ?
Two weeks from yesterday? Yeah, so next week.
Not this week, next week. All right, if you meant this

(02:09:45):
week, you would have said this week.
That makes sense. Yeah, not this weekend.
Yeah, not this weekend. Part of a week.
Yeah, OK. I'm with you.
I'm with you. Technically, the week starts on
Sunday. Well, thanks, Tony.
Maybe in the pizza business. But.
No no no, I got Liam basted for this by Ant money.
You got Liam basted. Yeah, double.
Who was double time? Writing that down.

(02:10:08):
Lay and baste. It I said the week starts on
Monday but they said no the weekstarts on Sunday.
Look at a calendar. That's why the Sunday is always
the first day. Who gives a flying fuck?
Just an update on our death pool.
Because we're we we don't have an update on like nobody died.
Oh, OK, OK. But I don't, I feel like we know

(02:10:29):
we always update the pics, but maybe we're still, you know,
we're still in a deadlock heat here.
Brundo, Tony and myself, we eachhave one.
I had Black Bart, Tony and Bill Mercer, Brundo and Steve
McMichael, HK still on the board.
He's looking for Thunderbolt, Patterson, Bill Edie, Jerry
Lawler, Buck Zumoff, Jim Ross, Jake Roberts, Sergeant

(02:10:51):
Slaughter, Bruce Prichard, Tugboat or Kevin Nash to tie
things up here. We only have about four months
left, boys. I picked the wrong Ellis.
If I picked Robbie Ellis, I'd have two.
Who's Robbie Ellis? He wrestled in Jakara a bunch of
times. I think he was like a really old

(02:11:12):
time wrestler. Oh.
Yeah, who's the Japanese guy that had this week too?
Yeah, yeah. I didn't recognize that name.
My Wang. No, it was not your Wang.
I'm looking at Billy Jack Haynes, Dory Funk Junior, Jimmy
Vallian, One Man Gang, Kendo Nagasaki, RIP Rodgers, Shocker,

(02:11:33):
Mill, Mascaras or Pork Chop Cash.
Tony's looking for Eddie Sharkey, Bob Coddle, Mark Lewin,
Jim Heard, Bill Dundee, Bushwacker, Luke Lars Anderson,
Great Kabuki or Joe Dorring, andBrendo has Black Gorman, Abdul
the Butcher, Bill Watts, Rick Flair, CN Cardis, JC Ice, Ahmed

(02:11:55):
Johnson, and Bruce Hart. He loses Cowboy Bob Ellis
because he's been dead for five years.
So only five? I thought it was like 8.
Yeah, I thought it was like 8 years.
I just picked an. Arbitrary number out of the air.
Justin Anderson chiming in. By the way, is it wrong to play
Mexican American during Triple Mania?
And get AC Mexican. Americans have white girlfriends

(02:12:21):
named Debbie. Also I feel like Scott George is
shitting on your fucking day trip HK.
He said 9:00 PM eastern start time for triple mania on
Saturday YouTube channel. I think it's 8:00 George.
Scott George might be off on that one.
I mean 8:00 would be central time.

(02:12:42):
No, but it's 8:00 east, so it would be. 7 for each.
Scott George knows. He was in the chat bragging
about how he subscribes to Fightful Select.
OK. I would.
I would like him to move that time up.
I'll see what I can do. I'll make.
A call, I'll see what I can do. I say I might have to call,
call, call my familia. Who would you Do you think

(02:13:02):
somebody at your restaurant has a hookup?
No. Honduran.
Yeah, they're famous Honduras wrestlers.
I looked it up. I go, I go, I go straight to the
source. I go right to my people in
Mexico. Really.
Yeah. At the the place you stay.
Yeah. Do they watch wrestling?
Yeah, maybe I'll, maybe I'll take a stroll over to 5th Ave.,

(02:13:26):
see who I can chat with that. Sounds dangerous.
Nah, man, it's not. It's.
Beautiful. Sure about that, yeah.
Been there, been there plenty times.
People, man, everybody that people don't fuck around on 5th
Ave. You know why?
Because that's that's tourism, man.
From Cancun and all the way downis tourism.

(02:13:46):
That's what pumps the money intothe country.
That shit's safe, man. 5th Ave. but you can't go to. 3rd or 4th?
Oh, no, 5th Ave's like the main shot, like that's, that's the
main you get to all the restaurants and all kinds of.
Shit, right? But what if I end up on 7th Ave.
Should I be concerned? Well then you, no you just keep
walking till you get to 5th Ave.and that's where all the fun
shit is. What if I'm going the wrong

(02:14:07):
direction? What if I had a couple too many
spicy margaritas? Hey, we, my wife and I walked
all around the avenues in that area.
We were just fine. What avenues though?
Yeah, 5th Ave. 12345 or like 4:00 and 5:00.
Oh, no, no, we, we, we took a good long walk.
We're all over that. Bitch went to the mall.

(02:14:27):
Also like you got short legs so what's a long walk?
Bitch, I walk more than you do. It's not a contest, it was just
a question. Now it's a fucking contest.
OK. What do you want?
What do you want? Another fuck?
You gonna dress like fucking Brock Lesnar with AIDS and get
another award? Blaine's listener down there.

(02:14:52):
Fucking howdy Doody. Maybe, maybe it.
Will all right. What do you want?
Maybe it will. What a fucking.
Flex, I walk more than you. Well, you say you got short
legs. You what?
Are you walking? Walk more than you all.
Right. Well maybe like your 5 miles is
like normal people 3 miles. No, no Jackass, 5 miles is 5

(02:15:13):
miles. Listen to this guy, yes, two
hours or 15 minutes and start listening to me, please.
This fucking guy. Look at our clown.
He's just walked everywhere. We got better shoes.

(02:15:33):
Hey, there you go. Thank you Clown 13420.
Yeah, he wore freaking sandals too, by the way.
Oh yeah? Oh my God, wait.
Are. You JK.
Put that together, it's. You got to grow the hair long

(02:15:53):
though bro HJ handsome Jesus. You.
Can you grow a scullet? I could grow my hair if I wanted
to. Grow a scullet.
Though the. Fuck's a scullet.
Well, you would keep. It Skull.
Mullet skull. Mullet.
Whatever Paul Heyman had. Oh, reverse.

(02:16:15):
A reverse Mohawk. Yes, call it.
OK, no, I my hair is still stillthick enough up top.
I wouldn't. Get there's a cow Lester brains
Lesnar boom roasted. I do like that boom roasted is
such a thing though too. Keeping it alive.
Jesse appreciate you. Jesse is the best.
Like I'd love that they listen. Jesse.

(02:16:37):
Harry I shared with the other. Hey Harry was like I tried
listening to the show without myAirpods, but you dropped like 7
fucks in a row and I couldn't. I couldn't listen while I was
walking around doing my job. How many miles was he walking?
That's. A great question you could ask.
You could ask your fellow Packerfan at the BBQ.
OK. Is he wearing shoes?

(02:16:58):
I don't know, you can ask him atthe BBQ.
So you and Alan are standing. Around like I'll be able to
snee. Well, what do you what do you
want us to do? Is raining like a motherfucker
at Tropical's a big band? Quite a bit.
Quite a bit, Harry said. 7.5 today.
Had a boy, Harry. The hair bear.

(02:17:18):
Yeah, the hair bear I like. That I'm going.
To introduce him to my ginger. Bear, What do we got Kate's
Corners back next week, No guests.
And then two weeks from tonight,we return for a yearly trip to
Studio A4 of US Tropicale Shining Wizards Tot's Pod.

(02:17:42):
I'd love to tell you it's going to be like a lot of the in depth
wrestling conversation, but it'll just be a lot of Dick
jokes, lot of Dick jokes, a lot of laughing.
Seeing in his shelves or whatnotlike last year.
Maybe we could do like maybe we can go through Tony search
history. No worries with that, I don't

(02:18:04):
care. Well you were talking about AI.
Baby grabbing fucking balls. It wasn't AI, it was legit.
It was like a Facebook video that got recommended to me.
It was. No, there was nothing AI about
it. It was kids grabbing dog balls.
I only thought you only looked up wrestling news on Facebook.
I look up a lot of news on Facebook.
Dog ball news right now. I look up news about the country

(02:18:29):
dudes. You know these country dudes are
done with this fucking shit. Thank you guys for tuning in and
joining the Shining Wizard Wrestling Podcast.
If you're not subscribed to Patreon, do it now because the
Rogue Chronicles they dropped this week Friday.
Good episode. Very good episode, yeah.

(02:18:51):
So definitely check that out. When you sign up at Patreon at
the $3 level, you get access to all the past episodes.
So you don't have to listen to just episode 5.
You go back to episode 1 of the Rogue Chronicles and you can
listen. Get yourself caught up.
I'm like the fucking rock, the final boss.

(02:19:13):
With that, we cue the music. Yeah.
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(02:19:57):
Go. No fuck you dude.

(02:20:24):
Jeez Louise I don't like this. My bald spots showing.
Take a look at this ass Wong TJ penis, am I right?
I was expecting to get at least a little bit more of a hammering
on Saturday. The frog goes slow.

(02:20:46):
He hit me with a She looks like Jabba's slut.
Well, see you later, baby. Want some titty?
It's it's what you think it is. Me.
Wanda Punani, she says. She fucks my mom.

(02:21:06):
Oh, really? Hey, motherfucker.
That's what she is. Get on top of me and I'll beat
you off. Cody doesn't see shit either.
You're fine, St. turkeys. I'm not looking to super kick a
fucking Turkey. No, I am not having an aneurysm.

(02:21:28):
I fucking love a veggie platter.I think they've been around.
I got to update my. Drops.
I think I'd have to fuck hardcore Holly.
That's fun to the porch.
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