All Episodes

September 1, 2025 • 157 mins

The Shining Wizards Return with a jam packed episode. Juice Springsteen joins the boys for the Juice Box to talk about WCW on Peacock, Fall Brawl & who he would put into War Games today in the WWE.

Over The Top returns with a vengeance & the boys talk a little about Ring of Honor, Death Before Dishonor & express frustration with the band before taking a break.

Back from the break its talk about the Wizards Street Team, the latest Patreon episode & Tony's Tier 1 Wrestling commentary career

Conversations turn to WWE's Clash of Paris as the boys talk picks and the PLE in depth.

There's a little AEW talk before we head into Homework & Brundo gives us an assignment for next week as we go back to ECW Guilty as Charged 2000 for Mike Awesome vs Spike Dudley

Remember to subscribe, rate and review.

Mark as Played
Transcript

Episode Transcript

Available transcripts are automatically generated. Complete accuracy is not guaranteed.
(00:01):
What are? You doing DVP?
Get your tits. Out of the Ice 14. 15/16/17 18.

(00:43):
The Shining Wizards Podcast is intended for entertainment
purposes only. Opinions expressed by the host
and guests are their own and do not necessarily reflect the
views of the podcast or its affiliates.
Content may include adult language or themes and is not
suitable for all audiences. Viewer and listener discretion
is advised. The following is a presentation

(01:13):
of the Shining Wizards Network, broadcasting live and high
definition video and available on all podcasting and streaming
platforms. Follow us on social media at
Wizards Podcast, check out our merchandise at
merch.shiningwizards.com, do your Amazon shopping at
amazon.shiningwizards.com and become a
patreonsupporter@patreon.com/wizardspodcast.

(01:38):
And now it's time for the Shining Wizards.
You're watching The Shining Wizard.
You're watching the Shining Wizard Wrestling podcast more.

(03:02):
All right everybody, thank you for joining us for an earlier
version of the Shining Wizards podcast episode 757 Got it
right. This week we are joined tonight
by Juice Robin, not Juice Robinson.
Maybe it is. We are wheezing the juice
tonight with the juice box. We had clash in Paris.

(03:25):
Death before Dishonor might be going on.
Still, there's a hundred freaking matches that happened
Friday night, so let's just get into it with some wrestling
talk. Then talk about wrestling.
Brundo. Double T Tony Handsome.
Kevin. Oh, what's?
Going on fellas. Happy Labor Day to everybody.
Happy Labor Day, gentlemen. Juice Springsteen, by the way,

(03:47):
not Robinson. The juice box.
The juice box. I kind of am digging this
afternoon affair, although I didhave to rush through the clash
in Paris and the homework and book my flight to Minnesota.
Oh fucking. Bell where the.
Fuck is the bell. God damn it, I got a new set up.

(04:10):
I ain't got a bell. Oh, we got to get you a You need
a new bell. No, no, no, it's here somewhere.
I just don't know fucking where.We're back to our normal format.
Has everyone recovered from the BBQ weekend and the
aforementioned live show? Yeah, man.
Yeah. Great, Great time.

(04:31):
Absolutely great time. Thank you guys all for making it
happen. Oh.
Thank you for dinner bro. Yes, for you.
Thank you for the castle. My stomach was I was fucking
cutting some gassers when I dropped these guys off at the
airport. I was so happy I didn't.
White Castle is a coin flip for me.
Either it's real bad or nothing.They told it was nothing on the

(04:52):
field across the street from my house.
Yeah, you ask Tropicale. There's definitely some shit on
the field out there. Do we need a story about this
or? No, man, it's just, you know,
tropical guy and I got up. We went and went and walked some
miles there on what was that Tuesday morning.
And boy, that White Castle was fueling me.

(05:14):
I'll tell you that. We.
Didn't even have murder burgers.You had imitation murder
burgers. Well, it's it's still murdered
my asshole, my friend. So I do have a funny story from
the BBQ that I just found out about today.
And Handsome Kevin, I don't knowif you know this or not, my wife

(05:34):
was continuously filling the veggie platter and continuously
telling you to keep eating veggies just to talk with you.
But I didn't know that till today.
I ate. Veggies man, I ate a fair
amount. Yes, but every time it was
looking like it was depleted shewould just put more.
Veggies there I like I, I, I would walk by it and I'd be
like, what the fuck happened? I'm, I'm, I'm like, I'm doing my

(05:58):
best so like I'd walk by and be like, all right, grabs, because
I love broccoli, right? Broccoli's my favorite.
Grab a grab a handful of broccoli, right, go in the
house, take a leak, grab some carrots.
Like I was, I was, I was going back to it and back to it, back
to it was like something's fucking wrong here.
Something is not I can't be the I can't be the only bitch here
that loves him some some vegetables.
I'm surprised you didn't grab the carrots before you want to

(06:19):
take a leak. I got it.
Stick them up your ass in the. Bathroom.
I was going to say, how's that going to help me take a leak?
Might help other things come outof your pee pee Oh.
Yeah. Oh yeah.
Oh yeah. Oh yeah, did you?
Did you guys enjoy your extendedweekend?

(06:39):
Yeah, it's fucking great. Absolutely.
Every day off of work is a greatday, yeah.
It's pretty good. It's pretty good.
Even though handsome Kevin, you thought clash in Paris was
Saturday. Yeah, that was a real fuck
though. That was a real fuck.
I'd I was, I was pumped because I, I knew Saturday I was going
to be able to watch it. No problem.
Everything's good. Didn't happen that way, man.

(07:00):
Didn't happen that way. So.
I you sent the pics Friday nightand I didn't want to.
I gave you the benefit of the doubt because I know it's been
Look, I was fucking exhausted after I dropped you guys off
Tuesday and I didn't do shit. I just drove you guys fucking
around. You had to get on a God damn
fucking airplane, fly back and then drive home.

(07:21):
And then you jumped right into the shit at work Wednesday.
So I was like, you know what, He's still getting this shit.
I'll wait till tomorrow. Because at some point you had to
be like, why aren't these guys fucking sending their?
Oh yeah, and I wanted to get my I wanted to get my pics in
because I knew I was doing shit Saturday, Saturday morning,
right? So I was like, I'm going to get
my fucking pics in now, just in case.

(07:42):
I got a got a big day Saturday going on and I get the text back
like it's Sunday. Jerk off.
I was like, I think. Anyone called you a jerk off?
Now no, I'm calling myself. Jerk off.
It's 'cause it's how I felt, yeah.
I just assumed you were going away to like your backyard or
something. Out of cell service for the
weekend or? Something.
Yeah, yeah. Didn't do that.

(08:07):
Tony, that's a fancy background you got there.
You feel very patriotic today. Yeah, I mean it's Labor Day.
I want to make sure, you know, with the reason for the season,
like they say whatever. And plus I got a green screen.
I got the new set up here. I got my white sauce shirt on.
Thank you again, tropical figurefigure try something different.

(08:30):
Of course I forgot the fucking bell and I apparently need a a
white girl light because I look dark as shit over here in this
corner, but I'm kind. Of being dark.
I mean, I'm not dark, that's that's the thing.
You're not from Sicily. No, well I mean I am a little
Sicilian, but have you seen my legs?
My legs are pale as shit so likeonly half of me is dark.

(08:51):
It's you also shave them. As according.
To Matt, I do not shave my legs,damn it.
I do know that I have it on goodauthority.
This was Tony Tuesday morning. Last time I had one in the stink
my finger stunk for four days. That checks out.
After the. White cast.

(09:12):
Yikes. Oh my God, I fucking when I went
to work, I went to the office Tuesday bro.
I had to keep my fucking office door closed and the next 45
minutes on the fucking porcelainthrone praying to the gods of
fucking anal openness. I said aim openness.
That's so weird. Yeah, who knew there was like a

(09:33):
a voice recorder in your bathroom at work?
I forgot I pulled new drops two weeks ago.
Just trying to fit them in, huh?Something like that.
Well, Tony, look, Tony's whole drop screen is full.
He's going to be the first one to get Tony drop #2 he's going
to get a whole second page, really.

(09:56):
I got gems bro, I got gems for days.
I mean, I got drops for, I got some new ones for HK and Brundo,
OK. Oh baby.
You know, but these things take time.
I'm not OK. I'm just letting you know, You
know this is here's a Brundo drop.

(10:17):
There are probably some feet. There are probably some feet.
What happened there? No.
Ha ha, you suck. There are probably some feet.
There's probably some feet. There's.
Probably some feet, no. What happened?
There are probably some feet outthere worse than your asshole.
Wow. There we go, we got it.
Juice Box is joining us, Juice Springsteen.

(10:41):
You know, with the I, I, we didn't really talk about it last
week because of we were barbecuing and stuff.
But you know, it looks like we got a little clarity on the WWE
Peacock deal. Wait, do we for real?
Yeah, it looks like they're gonna run through the through
March 2026. All Saturday night main events

(11:02):
will be there, NXTPLES will be there and the library will be
there till March 2026. What what little part of the
library they have? Well Nah, that's Netflix.
WWE Network still has a fair amount of stuff on there.
Peacock. Peacock Yeah, get the cock on

(11:22):
your mind there. I'll tell you what, if you have.
So I have the cock. Oh yeah.
There's a drop. Much.
You make me feel bad, Tony, but I have the cock app on my phone
because we stream everywhere in the house.
There are like channels that just are constantly streaming
stuff and WWE is like the best of WWE.

(11:44):
So I put it on the other night, there was some random Harley
Race, Ric Flair match from like 83.
It was like fucking 45 minutes. It was awesome.
It was awesome. There are some gems on the
Peacock, you just have to find them.
And if we're looking for WCW gems, we pop open the Juice box

(12:10):
and our guy Bruce Spring Juice Springsteen.
All right, that's 2. Thing do the five guys.
I got the five guys. Yeah, Guys Burgers, Where'd he
go? He's gone back.
Here oh. My God, we're like fucking
rookies. All right, so you've been called
Juice Robinson and Bruce Springsteen today.

(12:30):
Hey, I'll take it. That's those are two guys that
are more over than I'll ever get.
So I'll take the acknowledgement.
Would you you'd rather be the boss though than fucking Juice
Robinson? No.
Well with how he shaved his faceand looks completely different
than what he initially looked like and got over with, then yes
I I would be the boss. I'd rather.
Be. I mean, if you're Juice Robinson
though, you're slamming Tony Storm on a daily basis.

(12:53):
Yeah, you know what? You know what?
You make a very good point. And he's a little bit younger
than the boss if I'm not mistaken.
So HK banging Tony Storm you could fuck your gimmick all the
hell. Right.
And I want to point out it sounded like Brundle Fly said on
a bed daily basis. And I want to know what that I

(13:14):
mean. Is it because of the ass Rundle
fly you're banging around the bodily?
Yeah, yeah. We'll go with that behind the
bodily. The bodily basis.
Never a dull moment in here. Hi, guys.
Never. This is like, and we're in like
peak form. This is afternoon Wizards and
this never happened. So this is going to go off the

(13:36):
rail very quickly. Juice Springsteen, he's our
resident WCW guy. If you listen to wrestling
podcasts, you need to be listening to the Juice box.
And we got we did the BBQ last week.
So we didn't really cover a lot of wrestling news, but we got a
little clarity on the Peacock deal.
And obviously this effects you because, you know, there's not a

(13:57):
lot of places you can watch WCW without all the fucking.
Like, our homework tonight was agreat WCW tag team match, but
the YouTube commercials, Oh my God, horrendous.
How are you feeling? And do you have a plan?
Juice? Oh.
Yeah. If the WCW vintage stuff

(14:18):
disappears. So I've got I got plenty of
plans. First of all, thank you guys for
having me on Labor Day afternoon.
Very unique time frame, you know, Monday afternoon raw and
Monday afternoon shining Wizards.
So I'm here for it and I'd like to pour one out for the cock as
today is the final day. You know, yesterday was the last
PLE on the Peacock app and network and now we're going

(14:41):
right into ESPN because they said, you know what, let's fuck
AEW one more time. So I man, it's, it's
interesting, the OGWB network just, it was the best, like it
was the best thing that ever happened.
I remember the first day I signed up right before my, I had
a 9:00 AM class. And by the time I was out of

(15:03):
that class and on my way to grabsome food, I was watching Great
American Bash 92. So I was already just hook, line
and sinker with that. And you know, now we're going to
move forth to a new era. I don't know where any of this
stuff's going to go. I mean, specifically for me
first today on the WCW YouTube channel, which has been an

(15:23):
amazing piece of work that they've added to.
And I think they're going to come up with an ECW channel in
the future as well. I believe they already have
that. Like they've created it, but
they didn't put any videos to ityet.
But that'll be eventually. They were running today in a
marathon, just early episodes ofNitro because Labor Day 95 was

(15:44):
the first episode of Nitro from all of America.
So they were running, you know, Dungeon of Doom, Nitros and very
nostalgic stuff. And I think that's a great way
to continue the WCW programming,especially with the WWE vault as
well. Like there's so much stuff they
can they they put up a match, atleast a match a day every day on

(16:07):
the WCW channel. And then every Sunday they've
been putting up full pay per views or Clash the Champions.
It's been a wonderful thing to see.
Now, to your point, though, withthe ads, it's horrendous and
it's rough. And I hope that at some point,
and I've heard, you know, some rumors about this, I don't know
where the truth lies, but there's a chance you could get a

(16:28):
YouTube TV channel that'll be inthat framework that you could
just cycle through. That would just be classic
stuff. And I don't know whether it
would be specific to a company or not.
But if that's the case, I'm herefor it because I was back at the
WWE 24/7 days where you got one pay-per-view every month and
that was it. And maybe an episode of Raw from

(16:49):
96 and that was it. And then we've gotten so spoiled
and now it's kind of like, well,now they're taking it away or
making it more expensive. So the only other thing I've
I've been doing recently to be quite honest is checking out the
Internet Archive and searching for these shows.
And people have uploaded a lot of the WCW pay per views in the
Internet Archive in full regularversion.

(17:13):
There's no ads, There's no, I'm not sure if there's dub music,
it might just be the VHS or network copies.
But I've been watching shows like that if you can find those.
But that is it. Easier said than done.
Not everybody has access to thatstuff.
I like your background, Tony. I like that.
Yeah. The ECW thing that bothers me

(17:33):
though, A juice. I can't get over.
The dub music, I can't. New Jack, No, it's horrendous.
It's horrendous. New New Jack and DDP are my two
biggest offenses cause those aresome great a songs to have and
they just they have all the money in the world.
It's pretty bad when AEW and Tony Khan will pay for any song
even if it's for one night, yet WB won't fork over money for a

(17:56):
Nirvana RIP off for DDP or Ice Cube for New Jack.
Like what are we doing? They'll gladly take your 6 grand
for a third row seat at Russell Palooza in fucking Indiana.
A show named after ECW? Come on.
Come on, it's. Ridiculous.
What? Are we doing, how are you guys
going to remember the cock era? I mean, it was a weird era

(18:17):
'cause we were all with the network and then they took it
away and Season 1, like, I don'tlike how they framed those
either. What the hell are we doing?
So how are you guys feeling? It's hard.
It's really, it's heartbreaking.It's heartbreaking because at
there is a point where they juststopped.
Like there's so much, there's somuch.
I would love some WCW Worldwide.We never.

(18:40):
Got worldwide main event, all ofthem.
Yeah, we never got numerous. Seasons of of Saturday night.
Like there's so much missing andat some point they just stopped
uploading shit. Yeah.
And that's the frustrating part.We're missing years of
superstars or there's no mania on there.
Nothing not run challenge. Yeah, like I want that stuff.

(19:01):
Like, I get it, maybe not everything Hello Nelly didn't
survive or it's old or whatever,but like there's a whole
audience out there that like just has the the network slash
Peacock, whatever we're calling it for the old shit.
Give us what we. Want, and I know people have

(19:21):
people have, I mean you can see people sell DVDs full of seasons
of worldwide or whatever. People have access to them if
you ever to be wanted to get thefiles to upload themselves.
And the YouTube model is genius.It's their content, they own it
and they can get paid for it. Put it up then I know, you know
it's taking time. It's been since April since

(19:42):
they've had this channel, so I'll give them the benefit of
the doubt. And I've loved when it was
August, they put up a lot of Hog, Wild Rd.
Wild stuff. I'm looking forward to November
because they'll put up some World War Three, maybe Battle
Bowl, some other obscure November stuff.
But now it's September, it lookslike they're leaning towards
Nitro. But I have a feeling on some
Sundays. This is where we transition.

(20:02):
They're going to start pivoting to some Fall Brawl stuff and
that is really some of the best in my opinion, WCW stuff.
Just nostalgia wise, maybe not the best overall stuff, but I
mean, look, the Juice Box logo may or may not look reminiscent
of the Fall Brawl logo. So I have a very soft spot for
that as well. If I had the pull right, and I

(20:25):
think you and Hansel Kevin mightbe in the same button on this.
Your favorite Fall Brawl match? Charlie Norris, Big Sky.
And who doesn't love Charlie Norris?
Well. And Big Sky is he not in
Halloween O 7? Yeah, and.
I think he's. A Saber.
Tyler Maine. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

(20:47):
So. Tyler Tyler Maine.
Tyler Maine Yeah, Fall Braun, 93, is a great Rick Rude flair
match for the world title or theinternational world title,
however you want to call it. And then Booker T, Hall of Famer
legend Booker T gets humbled by Shockmaster, submitting to him
in the main event. So, you know, start off great

(21:08):
for his career. Yeah, man.
That's what should happen. They should replay that clip and
have people screaming Oh yeah man oh man.
Terrible. I can't watch.
I don't like watching NXT to begin with, but that gives me
more reason not to watch it. Yeah, I I try and watch NXT
every week. I get about good half hour to 45

(21:30):
minutes in and as soon as Trick Williams pretty much comes out,
I'm like, all right, I'm done. I can't handle Booker T
screaming his entrance the wholetime.
You know, Juice, I I had a question for you because you are
the the on the panel here, the foremost knowledgeable when it
comes to WCWI would say. Thank you.
I want to know everything you know about Festival de Lucia.

(21:53):
Oh, so I I've not as I'm not as up on it as I should be,
especially because it's the access to it hasn't been really
there. And Festival de Lucha and
especially in the other worlds, the When Worlds Collide show, I
don't think they've ever been actually uploaded to any WWE
sites, if I'm not mistaken. Am I correct there?

(22:14):
It's on the WCW YouTube. Oh that.
Oh OK they did put the one on onthe on YouTube.
Was it both those shows? Just just the one that I've
seen. Festival.
And that's the 99 one or 98 one with La Parka and all those
guys. OK, yeah, that one.
That one's a really good show aswell.
I wish they'd put the World's When World's Collide show up,

(22:34):
especially since they're whoringout that name now for a new
show. Let's do the same thing again,
Especially whenever WCW was looked at as like, they lost yet
we're going to use Halloween Havoc and we're going to use
Great American Bash and we're going to use war Games with all
these entities that worked. Yeah, but they worked.
They know people love it. Yeah, it's smart to use it

(22:55):
though if you own it. Yeah, what wasn't smart by WCW
was changing their logo and thiswas the abomination in 2000.
Yes, I've got this shirt as welland I want to transition this
into the WCW YouTube channel. The most viewed piece of
material on that Channel is the match that's on the back of this
shirt, which is Goldberg Scott Steiner, No DQ.

(23:19):
One hell of a match between those two behemoths since
probably 1 of Goldberg's best matches.
Overall, a nice little shed of light in the darkness that was
WCW 2000. Sorry, I swear to God When
Worlds Collide was on the network.

(23:39):
I thought it was it ever on the actual OG network.
I think it. Was.
Is it under WCW? I I feel like I remember
watching it on the network. That's what I thought.
I thought I had seen it at one point and then that's why I was
like, oh they uploaded the otherone too.
Like we got them both. But now it's just seems we only
have the later one, not the early one.

(23:59):
Because everyone you everyone's seen the, the, the the Love
Machine Eddie Guerrero tag match.
But there's a couple other gems on there.
Conan's on there, Conan. Conan, how do you say it?
Madonna's boyfriend is on there.Who doesn't love him?
Yeah, I mean, like I said, because it's September, I really

(24:21):
hope that they lean into some Fall Brawl stuff.
I feel like they will be leaninginto more Nitro stuff because
this is the 30th anniversary of that, but they've been uploading
some old thunders and I'm like can we get out of that?
Please do. You still.
Do you still celebrate somethingthat's dead?
An anniversary. I do.

(24:42):
You do OK, just one of the races.
WCWI have to. OK.
Gotcha Mall of America, what a genius ID in the 90s.
I mean. Lugar.
Right, Well, well aware. I just, you know, if it's dead,
would you still celebrate the anniversary?
You know what I mean? I think so.
I mean, I mean, there's a lot ofhistorical things that we

(25:04):
celebrate or acknowledge whetherwe celebrate it 1 You know, if
it's, if you just acknowledge itas like a holiday, is that
really celebrating it, especially if those are dead
people that you're celebrating. I.
Don't I? Don't watch holidays so I'm not
going to ask on that one. 9/11 Acknowledge me.

(25:28):
Pearl Harbor, acknowledge me. I mean, that's the only place.
In the stink hammer at home. Jesus, guys.
Happy Labor Day, everyone. Yeah, Happy Labor Day.

(25:49):
Acknowledge me. Are you now, Tony?
Are are you doing 'cause you're like leaning back almost like a
sabu? Well, here's the problem right
'cause the green screen doesn't cover everything that I wanted
it to cover. So I'm trying to get you know
what? Fuck it, I don't give a shit.
Whatever, I know it. Looks good.
Yeah, Now it's that looks like Sabu, though when you do this,

(26:12):
Roman Reigns don't look like Sabu.
Just put your just you don't have to lean back.
Well, I gotta get my whole hand in there, otherwise I'm just.
You know, I'm fucking big city there's.
A clip for you double T. Yeah.
Fall brawl right? Great time.
Everybody knows WCW fall brawl war games.

(26:34):
Do you have a favorite Fall Brawl War Games juice?
So the war games matches, peopletend to go with the Wrestle War
91 and 92 as the best. That's like Great American Bash
Wrestle War, right? But we're talking about fall in.
September and 93 was was 94 was fun.
You had the Nasty Boys, Funk andthe Rhodes Boys.

(26:57):
Dusty included being involved there.
My personal favorite though, purely from an angle standpoint,
and I mean I was, you know, I was just four years old when it
happened, but I remember watching Nitro the next night
and thinking Ric Flair was dead was when he got his head slammed
in the cage door by Kurt Hennig when he turned on them.

(27:17):
The NWO did and that was Horsemen country.
They ran Winston Salem four years in a row for Fall Brawl.
And I mean, they slammed Flair'shead in the cage and that the
next day they showed it probably10 times.
And I remember as a little kid just thinking like, is he is he
is he dead? Like, is he OK?
Like that was they made it so serious.

(27:39):
And it was just right in the thick of what I always say is
the best year for pro wrestling 97.
And you know, to you can watch some of the fans as Hennings
kind of like is am I going to slam this or not?
They are so worked up that he's going to do it.
And they're like. Duck stop.
It they're so like angry and in like just involved with it,

(28:00):
pissed off horsemen country. They took it so serious down
there and I just feel like that was probably pinnacle for war
games in that era. I'm not going to, you know,
dungeon a doom, the three on three on three.
You love it. Come on.
You love it, Rick Flair says this killed the fucking

(28:21):
territory when they slammed his head in the thing.
Yeah, I mean, I, I thought I gotgood heat though.
I think anything following that probably killed the heat cause
like the angle was hot. How could you not want to tune
in and see Flair get his comeuppance?
But how they just did things after the fact, I mean, it could
be debated forever. I think a lot of other things

(28:43):
killed the territory before thatand after that, so.
I feel like they didn't follow up with Hennig enough after
that. Like, yeah, he won the US title,
but like, it wasn't like maybe amonth or two later where he's
just another guy in the NWO crowd.
And I think they were supposed to go.
I don't know if it was World WarThree or Starcade.
There was supposed to be a cage match between Flair and Hennig

(29:06):
to blow that off, but I don't think that ever materialized
whether someone was hurt either Guy cuz Henna come back from not
wrestling at all and Flair had to get surgery I think at some
point later that year anyway so.I think it was the surgery and
then the contract negotiations at the same time with Flair

(29:27):
probably just killed that. Yeah, well, there you go.
And again, it's just more you guys talked about the whole this
whole show going off the rails. I mean WCW had great stories and
then they fell off the rails andnever seem to get back on the
rails. They just seem to do more rails
and come up with something different.
Ah, see what you did there? Do more rails.
All right, Juice, I'm gonna if you could book with the WWF

(29:53):
roster right now. A Fall Brawl War games to take
place at Wrestle Palooza 4. On here or at Survivor Series.
No, right now in in 19 Days at Wrestle Palooza.
OK, well, 'cause I'd pick the it's a four on four.
We don't. We can't do five on five.
I'm OK with five on five, OK. Clip that.

(30:14):
I because for me, if if they want to do it, 'cause I think
John Cena being in a War Games match would be exciting.
It's something that he's never done and I don't know, let's see
it. Especially if Lesnar comes back
and they do the whole whole thing.
That's why, you know, you brought up Ressa Palooza, but

(30:35):
who knows when it actually happens.
But I'd go Cena, Roman Reigns, CM Punk, Cody Rhodes, J USO
which I don't know how they loseversus Brock Lesnar, Seth
Rollins, Drew McIntyre, Braun Breaker and Bronson Reed.
It's like you knew I was going to ask you this question.

(30:55):
Well, I think that's a. Message that was.
You didn't think at all. You were ready.
You were fucking ready. I think Cena and Lesnar
captaining war games is a very interesting thing to be able to
pull off in this final year for Cena, and if they want to go for
it, they should go for it. So let's do it do.

(31:16):
You see how quick? The juice did this.
This is what goes on on the Juice box.
Yeah. That's right, 1 take.
That's it. So fast juice.
What's going on? What is coming up on the Juice
box for those who have not listened to us and tuned in?
That's right. Well, last week we had the no

(31:36):
two weeks ago forbidden or predictions that last past week
we had predictions for Clash in Paris with Josh Eisenberg.
This week we're going to be recapping pretty much all of
that and leading into what we'vegot going forth.
We got Russell Palooza coming up, AE WS coming to Pittsburgh
later on in September, so I'll be looking forward to that and
we'll be discussing the insurance and outs of that and

(31:57):
just the fact that we're going to get all out and wrestle
Palooza on the same night. Am I mistaken or is that the
first time? 2 pay per views against each
other for the two big companies since Survivor Series, 87 and
Star Kate, 87. Didn't they run?
Yeah, I guess so. Right?
They ran what? Saturday night's main event

(32:17):
against The Goldbergs? Last match was against AW right?
Yeah, but all in was done. By it was like the end.
Yeah, it was the end, if anything.
Yeah, I mean that's. Weird.
I it's a, you know, it's a weird, I don't know, seems like
a weird thing for WWE to do. Well, yeah, but we know why

(32:38):
they're doing it. Are you guys going to be going
one or the other or going 2 monitors?
I'll be. Fucking working.
Unfortunately, these fucking Saturday, these Saturday pay per
views can suck my Dick. Yeah, double T usually goes one
or the other. I thought he double fisted, but
you know. I'll ring the bell for you

(32:59):
though you fuckers. If I was home I'd go double T
VS. I would move both TV's into the
living room. I just when I see people online,
just, I mean, we, we all see it on there, you know, picking one
side or the other or like, I'm not going to watch this, I'm
going to watch this one. OK.
You're missing out on potentially 2 great shows.

(33:20):
Like, what pride are you holdingon to that you can't watch both
companies like? It's so people, right?
You brought it up earlier, right?
People forget right? All of us here, maybe not you
juice 'cause you were 4IN fucking 1997.
But I was dropping $90.00 a month to watch the WCW pay per

(33:40):
views, WWF pay per views and ECWpay per views.
They were 30 bucks a pop and I had to watch them all.
So like hindsight, like. 30 bucks.
I, I mean, I still don't, I still don't have an I I don't
know. I have ESPN with Hulu.
So do I get? We don't know, no.
I have YouTube TV with ESPN and you'd think they want to clear

(34:03):
that up before you know the show, but I'll start talking
about it. Again, I'll be working so I'm
not like I'm not putting down $30.00.
I got connections. Oh yeah.
I think in this day and age, especially if you grew up in the
early mid 2000s, you found a wayto watch shows whether they
wanted you to or not, or whetheryou had the money or not.

(34:23):
So if you kept that all the way up until 2025, you'll be able to
watch these shows. The only reason why I'm friends
with Tony. Is Pirate Bay still in business?
Is that still the? Same rum company.
I got gimmicks bro, don't worry about it.
We got. Gimmicks.
It's it's all good. The gimmick used to be the black
box. Now it's all, it's all online

(34:43):
gimmicks. We got you.
Yeah. The black box was the scrambled
stuff is that's where it's at. It was the best back in the day.
Yeah, one of my buddies had a black box.
It was the fucking best going tohis house for everything.
Oh yeah, Oh yeah. It was fucking coming.
Juice. This is always a pleasure.
We appreciate you taking time out of your busy schedule.
What do you I I always forget, too, that you're from the

(35:04):
Pittsburgh area. Such a beautiful city.
One of my favorite cities. Oh yeah, oh, I love.
That you've been there, yes. Several times.
OK, yeah, PNC Park. PNC Park.
Best ballpark in America. Cheapest owner in the league, so
you'll see no good teams there other than the ones that play
the Pirates. But great views come on out
anytime. Go to a game.

(35:25):
Used to be that that meat and potatoes around the corner from
the the stadium. They they've got a a new place
across from the stadium now called Steak on a Stone, where
they give you an 800° stone and you just cook the steak on your
own. Kind of dangerous.
You don't want to drink before you do that, but it's fun.
I'm out. I'm out on anything.

(35:47):
If I go out to eat, I'm not cooking my own fucking food.
Hot hot kick rocks. Fucking steak on a stone.
Eat a shit you lazy fucks. Cook my food for me.
What am I paying you for? Yep.
To to bring the stone so you burn yourself.
I can see work with the fucking oven, I'll be fine, but I ain't

(36:09):
cooking my own fucking steak. We could have a competition
where who could leave their balls on the stone longer.
That's a. Stone, go for 30 seconds, Tony.
No, that's not going to happen. I burn my nut.
I'd be fine. You burnt your nuts once, now we
got to hear this fucking abomination of the story.
What the fuck did you do that you had to burn your nuts?

(36:30):
Before he tells the story, please silence so I can cut it
and make drops out of it, OK? No, it wasn't that that I mean,
it wasn't like a a death defyingmaneuver or anything like that.
Everybody knows I I used to be achef.
The oven of. The door I dropped.
Down and I was looking to see what was in there and I couldn't
and my fucking my back was hurting so I bent at the knees

(36:51):
and didn't realize that I my pants were on the corner of the
goddamn oven door until it was too late.
Where you wearing fucking? What was your zipper?
Like what are your plastic pants?
What kind of fucking no you wearing?
You wearing the breathable fucking kitchen shorts man.
Kitchen shorts. Breathable.
Kitchen shorts. Yeah, it's hot looks.

(37:12):
Like Shawn Michaels is a refereeat Summer Slam.
Kinda, yeah. So I burnt my sack.
Really not a big deal. It's way over here.
And boy toys. Juice was a pleasure.
Be sure guys, check out the juice box wherever you if you

(37:33):
listen to this podcast on like Spotify or iTunes, like throw in
the search the juice box is going to come up.
You're going to see that beautiful logo behind them with
the homage to fall brawl and then juice will drop as quickly
as he named that five on five war games.
He's going to hit you with with his his news and information and
opinions on the current state ofpro wrestling and they're great.

(37:58):
And that's why we love the Juice, and that's why the Juice
Box is here. We use the juice.
Appreciate you guys having me on.
Enjoy the rest of your show and Labor Day and see you guys in
another six weeks, huh that? Sounds like a date juice.
Thank you so much brother. We appreciate you.
Thanks, Juice. Thanks, Juice, you guys.
See you Juice. At least we got his name right.
Like for the rest of the time hewas here, we didn't call him.

(38:20):
Like I don't, I don't know any other juices.
We're bringing. Students, for that matter.
Rick Springsteen. Rick Springsteen, Jesse's girl.
That's Rick Springfield, you dildos.

(38:41):
Rick Springfield. All right.
OK, terrific. All right, well, that was that
was the juice box. How do you follow the juice box?
There's only one way to follow the juice box.
Gentlemen, are we going to the Glitter Box?
No, I had to explain to Rhiannonwhat the botanical gardens were

(39:03):
'cause you. We're not going to the.
Glitter Box. Oh, you made it in the mommy's
play room. I'm.
In the play room. Cry me a fucking river.
Hey, look who else is in the play room.

(39:23):
Looks like he's in the gardens. What?
Have you had? That not the flavor.
Oh, wait, wait. Little butt hole Hold my little
butt hole. That was a.
Big butt hole. Oh, where'd it go, you know?
This Why don't you still head? We're still in the clitter box.

(39:44):
That looks delicious roast beef.Fucking Italian roast beef,
baby. The the microphone makes it look
like it's on like a spick. Jesus, dude.
I'm going to grab Mayor Delayed.I love this thing, fucking thing

(40:12):
is amazing. Yeah, well, this show will turn
into the green screen and the drop show, so be sure to tune in
every Monday. But now it's time to take it.

(40:35):
Just keep playing it fucking. YouTube strikes, they're like
Sammy Hagar's over the top strikes.
I can't hear you in Bangladesh or whatever.
Fucking third world country watches this show.
All right, let's start over the top with the old clash in Paris,

(40:56):
if we will. Roman Reigns defeated Bronson
Reed for his shoes. The Wyatt 6 defeated the Street
Profits to retain the WWE Tag Titles.
Becky Lynch successfully defeated Nikki Knockers to
retain the Women Continental title with a good old fashioned
donnybrook. Rusev defeated Seamus.

(41:17):
John Cena defeated Logan Paul. Your WWE World Heavyweight Title
was successfully retained by Seth Rollins in a four way dance
featuring CM Punk. Jay USO in LA Knight Tony take
it over the top. Pagonophobia is the fear of
beards. Handsome Kevin clearly doesn't
suffer from that condition. Am I right, Molly?

(41:42):
Wow, we're getting personal. Now, all right, next we'll head
over to Dynamite. Jon Moxley defeated Daniel
Garcia, Harley Cameron and ChrisStatlander defeated Megan Bain
and Penelope Ford. Penelope Yeah, I.
Almost got to go. The Don Kallis family of
Hechicero, Josh Alexander, Kazuchka, Okada and Takashita

(42:04):
with Wardlow defeated Bro Dildo and Jet Speed for the AW trio's
title. The OPS defeated Bishop Khan,
Toa Leoni and Ricochet and in a falls count anywhere match Darby
Allen defeated Claudio Cassanoli.
Tony, take it over the top. Research suggests that if you

(42:26):
want to increase your chance of having an orgasm, you keep your
socks on during sex. Sounds like Double T is always
playing the odds. Double or north it?
Man, I need my fucking bell. We're we're going to go to

(42:47):
Central States Wrestling. Of course we are.
Rey de la Muerta defeats Luke Langley.
MO Sweetness defeats Landon Thomas Drake, Derrick James
defeats Ray Leon, Austin Lee defeats Rex Amadeus.
Bert Cameron defeats Dred Roberts and the Revenger Prince
Cage. Kenny Alfonso defeats Rex

(43:09):
Amadeus and in A tag team match,the premier defeat team double
stuffed Tony. Take me over the top fuck.
Yeah, I love that double stuffedaction.
Speaking of action, Edgar Allan Poe married his 13 year old
cousin when he learned about this, Buck replied.
I mean, you don't have to marry him.

(43:33):
Ding, Ding, Ding. Oh my God.
I think you broke him. I should have saved that.
Way. Well, let's go over to TNA.

(43:55):
Hannah and Steve Macklin defeated AJ Francis and Trick
Williams. Eric Young defeated Myron Reed.
The Inspiration defeated Fatal Influence.
Eddie Edwards defeats Ryan Lemeth.
Tasha steals defeats Marisade ina non title tag team match, The
Hardys defeated Cedric Alexanderand Leon Slater.
Tony, take us over the top, haveyou?

(44:17):
OK brother, the Apollo missions have left 96 bags of poop, pee
and vomit on the moon. Hey, when I visit the moon I
typically only leave a map of Hawaii.
Why should we not do? This every week.

(44:38):
It makes it worth it when it comes special.
Fucking episode special, all right?
All right, ROH Death Before Dishonor.
J Lethal defeats Jordan Oliver. Oh yeah, The Eminem Collection
defeats The Dark Order in a pure, pure real.
Match. It's a pure.
Match. Pure A Billy Starks defeated

(45:01):
Ashley Vox in a $50,000 four waymatch.
Realistico defeats and Helico Adam Priest and AR Fox the
conglomeration of Hologram and Ishi E Defeat the vanilla
athletes of Tony Niece and Aria Davari with that piece of shit

(45:22):
smart Mark Sterling for the world six man titles that were
vacated. Shane Taylor Promotions Defeats
The Sons of Texas. ROH Pure Title Qualifying match
Queen Almanada defeats Taya Valkyrie.
The Swirl of Blake Christian andLee Johnson defeats the Kingdom.

(45:43):
Matt Taven, Mike Bennett, ROH Pure Title match.
We already defeats Exhulia. Yeah, that's what it.
That's what it looks like. In a fight without honor, QT
Marshall defeats Paul Walter Hausen for the vacated ROH tag
team titles, Roush and Sammy Gevard beat the outrunners for

(46:06):
the ROH World title Bandido, andfor the ROH Women's World title
Athena defeats Mina Shirakawa. Tony, take it over the top.
That being said, Samuel L Jackson was an usher at Martin
Luther King Junior's funeral. I wonder if there was a sign in
front of the Funeral Home that Sam didn't see.

(46:36):
Holy shit this is so fucking crazy.
Material right here my. Chest hurts now.
He said fuck it, we're doing it live.
Oh my God, I think I hurt my ribs.

(46:59):
Oh God. Who's next?
We're we're going to go to KapowWrestling where you.
Knocked it off. I had an event in Bristol,
England. I got Matt Lynx defeats Dr.
Logan. Twitch defeats Alexander
Murdoch, Axel Carter defeats Hammerhead, Smith, Junior.

(47:21):
John. Johnny Storm defeats Axel
Carter, Keegan. Keelan.
Garland and Scotty Yulati defeated A Man They Don't Know
and Dori Gibson and at the main event Archie Cole defeats Keno
Tony. Take me.

(47:41):
Over the top. On this Labor Day, we need to
honor the true workers of wrestling.
Whether we admit it or not, they're the backbone of this
great sport. Men like Frankie Williams, Steve
Lombardi, Mario Mancini, Ricky Hunter, the Mulkey Brothers,
Pete Doherty, Iron Mike Sharp, Barry Horowitz.

(48:02):
Just hearing those names elicitsa feeling of nostalgia, but even
more a recognition of those who are willing to make wrestling a
job to put others over themselves.
This is why on this Labor Day, we recognize these true winners
in the wrestling world. But let's be honest, we're going
to call them what they are. Fucking losers.
Oh fuck, that's. My cue?

(48:38):
Yeah, just let it play. That's up, dude.
Else. Oh boy.
What do you think? Best over the top ever.
It's, I mean, yeah, it's, it's up there.
You, you definitely broke handsome Kevin.

(49:00):
Definitely broke handsome Kevin.Holy shit.
So we're going to talk Clash in Paris and pics next.
But I do what? Just want to point out.
So I tried to watch Ring of Honor Death before Dishonor.
Why? I said I tried because I was I

(49:22):
was interested in the Hechasaro Bandido match and I wanted to
see Athena. Oh.
Yeah. So when I got home Friday night,
I said, oh, it's 11:45 this. I should be, I want to, maybe
I'll watch an hour. To my surprise, when I logged

(49:42):
into somebody else's Ring of Honor account, it was still
going on. And I was like, fuck this.
So I when the fuck did I put it on?
Saturday. Saturday before me and Brendo
recorded Patreon put on the showand it started from Zero Hour

(50:02):
and they're running down the card and mommy goes, how many
how many matches are there on this show?
He goes, this is a lot. I go, yeah, I go this is this
isn't happening. I'm not fucking watching all of
this just nonsense, complete fucking.
And it's a shame because I like Jordan Oliver through from GCW,

(50:24):
right? I'm a fan of his Adam Priest is
awesome, right? But they're just like this, like
Tony has fallen asleep over there when you were reading.
I mean, this is a there's a lot,there's a lot of shit for this
ring. I mean fucking Ring of Honor not
only ruins people's wrestling watching experience, but it also
ruins over the top because the card is so fucking long.

(50:45):
Just be happy we didn't have to pick it.
Oh yeah, I'm overjoyed. We would only have to pick like
4 matches because they don't announce anything until the card
act until it's that night. Like ahead of this time they
probably announced the two titlematches and who knows?
I don't think much else. This is how much they think of

(51:05):
their titles. Fucking fucking Gold Dust has to
drop the TNT title, but who gives a fuck that he was a
fucking tag team champion or sixman champion or whatever the
fuck other titles he was holding, right?
Both. I didn't know the dark order was
still a thing until the pre show.
Yeah, ain't that funny. It's what it's.

(51:27):
It's so wild. Like I can't, I don't, I just, I
don't was. Was the crowd?
Was the crowd full? Like, like, was it sold out?
Was that? The West Arena.
Yeah. Was that the 2300 arena?
So, you know, I look people, people show people that want to
see it showed up. But man, like for somebody like

(51:49):
me, like I was really into Ring of Honor when it closed.
And if you've listened to this show, you've heard me talk about
this. But man, it was I really enjoyed
the end of Ring of Honor, not knowing it was the end of Ring
of Honor. And then when he bought the
company, it was like, oh, maybe he can like this is exciting.

(52:09):
And it only took like a couple weeks of that like restart of
Ring of Honor where like the weekly shows were like fucking
two hours. And it was just, it was just AW
dark and AW elevation, like, andthen like to see them put titles
on people and they just don't fucking matter.
Like, and it's a shame 'cause you have like so many fucking

(52:32):
talented people where you could be doing things with them that
would make somebody like want topay $10 a month to watch Ring of
Honor. You could you could make
compelling TV. I know you're shaking your head
over there HK, but there is a generation that did grow up with
the Ring of Honor. So be able to have access to

(52:54):
that back back catalog is the isequal to somebody who grew up
watching WWFWCW. They want that back catalog like
it's priceless to be, you know, if you lived it or you haven't
seen it in a long time. But man, this was I, I, I think
I watched like 2 matches on the pre show and I was like, I'm

(53:14):
done. I can't.
I'm not can I? Can I ask?
Can I ask a comparison question?Which to you is the worst
reincarnation of a product? WWECW or AE Ring of Honor.
Do you want? No, you specifically, yeah.

(53:36):
Yeah, honestly. So I was not watching wrestling
during the WWECW era, but I feellike this is going to be a
surprise to a lot of people. Not to me.
I feel like they tapped in to enough of the ECW product.

(53:58):
Where WWECW better than a EROHAWROH?
I'll give you this, we got that fucking amazing one night stand
out of the rebranding of ECW. We haven't gotten anything close
to that from ROH. You've got that alone.
Briscoe's The Briscoe's FTR stuff was great.

(54:21):
It was, yeah, but it was but. The only reason they shoe Hornet
in Ring of Honor is because theydon't want the Briscoes on AWTV
because of shit that Jay said. So for but you can't say it's
not great that that those three matches are awesome.
That's a great those are. Three matches out of like a
whole card. I'm just saying like that whole

(54:41):
card blows any give me. Give me any card that Tony Khan
has put out of ROH. That one Night stand blows it
all away, and to be fair, blows a shit load of other cards away.
I like blowing things, does it? Blow you.
Oh, wait. What?

(55:02):
Sorry. I was looking something up.
It's, yeah. It's just, it's frustrating and
it's, you know, we we mock him, but you know, he is for the
sickos. And apparently there was a
streaming problem where people did not get to see a lot of it.
So it is free on YouTube now. Oh, you can watch it before
Dishonor if you wanted to watch it.

(55:24):
Wait, the shit that you had to pay to watch last weekend?
I I first of all, I didn't pay for it.
Well, you somebody that you got it from paid.
For it's a great friend. I mean, it's only it's included
in the 10 bucks a month they're paying for the back catalog.
So, but yes, if you add I think like Microsoft and a couple

(55:46):
others if you were trying to useyour laptop to stream it.
Microsoft, isn't that what they call you?
Double T. Yeah, yeah.
Ding, Ding, Ding, Ding, Ding, Ding, Ding.
Due to issues with service provider Brightcove who haven't
yet given a time frame for stream repair, I put Ring of

(56:06):
Honor streaming free on the ROH YouTube.
So if you are you, you're tryingto use Chrome and Firefox,
Brightcrove was not working. You can view it view it on
Safari and the ROH app. So this was happening live as
the show was going on. Firefox.

(56:27):
Yeah, look, Sami Guevara is a bad guy.
So when he shows up on AW Dynamite now with LFI, just know
he turned on the Von Erichs. Piece of shit who?
Gives a shit. Well, what?
Nailed it. When when HK goes back to
dynamite or if he ever returns? The He's never going back.

(56:49):
I hope not. I hope.
People say never, I'm saying never.
HK is dunzo Magunzo with watching that dog shit.
For his sanity. For his sanity.
I hope that's true. Yeah, we'll see.
Is that a tease? Is that a tease for when we come
back from the commercial break? We'll see.
We'll see. Maybe it is a tease.

(57:09):
Maybe it is a tease. But but for.
You know, for now I think I got to go go fishing for some brown
water trout. We would like to thank each and
everyone of you for tuning in each week to The Shining
Wizards. Here are some other ways in
which you can support the show. If you shop at Amazon, visit
amazon.shiningwizards.com and shop the way you always do.

(57:34):
You'll pay the same low prices and a portion of your purchase
will help support the show. If you'd like to buy a Shining
Wizards T-shirt, visit merch.shiningwizards.com to
visit our Pro Wrestling tea store and select from over a
dozen great designs. You can also become a Patreon
supporter at patreon.shiningwizards.com,

(57:55):
where we offer bonus content, producer credits, and so much
more. Continue to listen to the show
wherever you listen to podcasts and watch along live on social
media. And don't forget to like, rate,
review, and subscribe. Your continued support helps us
to continue to bring you the best in professional wrestling
podcasting. It's time for your weekly lineup

(58:24):
of shows on The Shining Wizards Network.
Start your week with the latest from Gorilla Brain, featuring
the year of Duke and Roe covering a year's worth of
classic wrestling, and the Tot'sPod, introducing the world to
wrestling. Figure collecting.
Follow up with 30 Screens or less, a weekly review of horror
movies in 30 Minutes or less, and The Shining Wizards where

(58:49):
it's wrestling talk and talk about wrestling.
The Network week continues with the Mark Order, Your Place for
everything, AEW, and the ROH Revelry covering everything in
the history of Ring of Honor. Later, it's radioactive metal,
bringing you everything from theworld of heavy metal music, an

(59:09):
inconclusive breakdown keeping you up to date on everything
happening in the world. The Shining Wizards Network is
also the home to other great shows like the Bro Cast Your
Watch Along podcast from Down Under, Turnbuckle Throwbacks
paying homage to the greatest shows in the history of pro
wrestling, Wrestling Night in Canada, a focus on wrestling

(59:32):
with the North of the Border spin and Going Underground, a
show that takes you back throughthe history of Lucha
Underground. Enjoy all of the amazing shows
on the Shining Wizards Network available wherever you listen to
podcastsand@shiningwizardsnetwork.com.It's the Shining Wizards Network
entertainment here. You want to fight, you want to

(01:00:00):
become a champion, but face facts, you suck.
But you don't have to suck, and you won't suck when you train
with the best train at the Wizards Wrestling school.
We'll train you in all forms of combat, including Japanese
wrestling and wrestling in pudding with no clothes on.
Got 5 grand. We'll take your 5 grand and

(01:00:20):
train you to be a champion. Maybe.
Got what it takes? Join us on the mean streets of
Morristown and find out if you got what it takes to win
championships. It's the Wizards wrestling
school, taking money and taking names.
Oh yeah, we want that money. We want those names.
And you know what else we want you to do?

(01:00:41):
We want you to check out the Wizard St. team.
Our newest member will be at BigLeague Pro Wrestling this
weekend in Erie, PA. That's Deb.
So if you see Deb out there, sheshould have her Shining Wizards
merchandise by this weekend. So if you're in Erie, PA, say
what's up Deb? Give me some of that Shining

(01:01:03):
Wizard shit and then our girl SJwill be up in Toronto for the
weekend of All Out, do an InvokePro Wrestling and Canadian
Deathmatch show and of course All Out then Rumble in the Burnt
in October. So if you see the girls from the
Wizard St. team, be sure to say hello and give them a follow at
Wizard St. on the socials to seetheir next appearance in case

(01:01:27):
you, you know, in case somethingpops up after the show airs.
Oh yeah. I feel like for for Wizard St.
we should play like Baker Streetin the background.
Is there a version where it won't get flagged?
If we found the karaoke version,maybe you know, just something

(01:01:47):
with the, with the, with the, you know, you know.
I'll tell you what something worth checking out is me and
Brundo had the pleasure of watching a Tier 1 wrestling
match that her very own Tony didcommentary for.
And Brundo, I found out later that night I was completely
wrong on who Tony's broadcast partner.

(01:02:08):
Was. I got a lot of you got a lot of
questions, Tony, about this. Well, let me let me let me start
off like this. This was like the third, if I
remember correctly, different commentator that I had with me
doing shows. So the first show was Larry
Dallas, Larry Dallas and I like we had pretty good chemistry
together. Then the next show, Larry Dallas

(01:02:29):
wasn't there. They put Grim Reefer with me,
then Grim Reefer was on the nextshow.
The I think the third show afterthat was the show that you guys
reviewed this match from was a not a Co show with Evolve, but
Evolve was running at Finbar's that night.
So as part of like some deal that tier one had with Evolve,

(01:02:50):
tier one ran a show during the day.
Trevin Adams from Evolve sat in and did commentary.
So this is the third different commentator that I worked with.
So by that point there was kind of no, no balance and I wasn't
doing, I wasn't doing the play by play, I was doing color.
So like I was kind of trying to find my spot where to get in and
whatnot. So not the best Shining Wizards

(01:03:12):
Tony performance, but that show,like I learned a lot from Trevin
and that show was highly enjoyable.
Yeah, the Timothy Thatcher matchwas on that show.
Great stuff. Great stuff now.
Look, you. And yes, the Timothy Thatcher
match was part of the Tier 1 show that was kind of evolves
like gift to Tier One for however they were working
together. They probably like split cost on

(01:03:34):
flying people in together or something like that probably.
Yeah, and you one probably had to hook up to get them the
venue, you know? Yeah.
Yeah, so patreon.com/wizards podcast, it dropped today.
We and looked, you know you can listen, but talk.
Me and Brenda, we had some fun busting Tony's balls, but at the
end of the day I thought we thought he did a pretty good

(01:03:55):
job. I got as far as I got, as far as
we're 48 seconds in. There was dead silence for 30
seconds. I was like, oh fuck me running.
I mean, come on. We had to have a little fun
busting your balls. Of course, we did also find out
that the Tomasa Champa Timothy Thatcher match is on

(01:04:15):
Dailymotion, so something we might look into.
We also found a JJ Rogue interview on YouTube which I
shared with the group. Completely forgot I did that.
Completely forgot I did that. And you should, but not for your
performance. Oh, thank you, Tony.
I mean, I, I, I respect the factthat you're trying to put your

(01:04:38):
name out there, Boo. They, they, they, they, they
said, hey, we'd like to have youon.
I said yeah, of course we. Got to say yeah, of course.
Yeah. Absolutely.
Now, Tony, this was the 4th showthat marched to victory where
that match was held. How much longer did you do
commentary 'cause I feel like itwasn't much longer after after

(01:05:00):
this that you were you had givenup on Tier 1.
Well, Tier 1. On you.
No Tier 1. Talk about the split.
I mean, there's nothing to talk about.
The very last show that I did was the show where Sonny Kiss on
his birthday, won the Tier 1 championship from Rude Boy
Riley, only to be defeated within a couple of minutes by

(01:05:24):
Darius Carter, who's cashing in whatever Tier One's version of
Money in the Bank was to win thechampionship.
And then telling Sunny Kiss, by the way, happy birthday as he
walked out with the championship, which was fucking
great. I actually called that show with
Shining Edward Jackson and that was officially my last show for
Tier One. But there was a lot.
There was a lot in between, but honestly, I think Tier One only

(01:05:46):
ran one other show after that. And the split came because tier
one didn't pay me for that last show.
So I was like, well, you know what?
I'm breaking my ass to get out to these shows.
And yes, I did go out to NYWC tocall that show with Monkey Flip.
So yes, Tony does travel to LongIsland, in case you were
wondering. But yeah, so I, I just told him,

(01:06:11):
I said, yeah, you know, like forthe, for the little they were
paying me, I was doing it more because I love doing it.
But after a while, like I, I felt like I established myself.
I felt like I deserved at least something for going out there
'cause you get the 'cause you get out there early and you go
over what people are doing, if they have anything they want to
feed to you, whatever. And you're calling the whole
show. Like, you know, the, the

(01:06:32):
commentators don't take a break.The commentators aren't like,
you know, like 10 minutes, 15 minutes and they're done for the
night, you know what I mean? So I was like, well, screw it,
I'm travelling around. Like, I'm not like what they're
paying me was not covering my expenses, but I did it because I
really wanted to do it. I had fun doing it.
But then after a while I was like, you know what?
Yeah, I'm just not interested anymore.

(01:06:52):
And they did one more show afterthat, and that was about it.
Cage match has several shows after that one.
Yeah, for real. That so that last show you
called would have been Tier 1 resurgence.
Mm hmm. They're resurging for what
reason I don't know. And then after that there was a
tier one enter entrar NL Circulodel dragon.

(01:07:15):
Yeah, I'm glad I didn't call that one.
I did. I actually the the the La Boom
show, I'm pretty sure the one that I called Penta was on,
which was awesome because I'd never seen Penta wrestle before.
So I got to call it Penta match.He own Resurgence.
He was not on Resurgence. He might have been on something.
There's a bunch of match, a bunch of cards before that.
Well, there was a there was at least two at La Boom that I
called. Yeah, this.

(01:07:35):
So the the boom one is there's one here with La Boom where the
main event is Penta and Ray Oris.
Maybe I didn't call that one. I don't know.
Well, we'll see. Were you there for the Empire
State of Mind show? Yeah, that sounds very familiar.
Yes, OK, That might have been that might have been the the
show that Darius Carter walked out with the title.

(01:07:57):
No, that was resurgence. Then what was what was the
Empire State? Of mind we had Max Caster, MJF,
Nikki, Adams, Demarius. But that was not at Laboom, was
it? No, that was at Finbar.
Yeah, Finbar's. I called that show all.
Right, well they had like 3 moreshows and then they had a two
year anniversary show at Saint Finbar.

(01:08:19):
Did they really? Yeah, your main event was Darius
Carter, Matt Riddle. That's an interesting match.
Fucking this is I. Feel like I call the I think I
call the Matt Riddle match though he was the Progress Atlas
champion at the time because I remember he brought the he had
the belt at the show and I got the bullshit with him.
For a little bit, yeah, he was in A tag.

(01:08:42):
He was in A tag match with with Rude Boy Riley against Darius
Carter and Gran Akuma. You know, you know what, man?
Like one guy that I really missed watching was Grant Akuma.
I thought he was something special.
I really enjoyed watching his matches, calling his matches.
He had a match where he wrestledCaleb Conley for the Full Impact

(01:09:02):
Pro Championship at one of the shows and he wound up losing.
And then Caleb, just like right after the match, grabbed the
belt and ran and Akuma was just looking at him like, what the
fuck was that? So I don't know if that was
supposed to be like a story thing or something legit, 'cause
they didn't clue us in on a lot of stuff, and rightfully so,
'cause I didn't want to know a lot of stuff.
Yeah, yeah. But he's a guy I'm surprised

(01:09:24):
that never got a shot in ROH, atleast for like longer than like
a like a Jakara 6 man or eight man match.
It felt like he could. They could have done something
with him in the mid early to mid2000s for sure.
And I'm sure he was an Ant or something at some point cause
most of those guys were so. Probably.
No, he was Grand Akuma. Well, double duty.

(01:09:46):
You think he was ever an Ant? I don't know, I just enjoyed
watching his matches. I thought he was a hell of a
talent. I really liked him.
The only thing I didn't like about calling his matches, he
had a fucking name for every goddamn move that he did, and I
don't know if they were his own creation or just like names that
people gave him. Like I never heard of a Yoshi
tonic before but goddamn it GranAkuma if I can use the Yoshi

(01:10:08):
tonic. He almost killed Eddie Kingston
with that once landed right in his head.
He was out for months. Well, Eddie Kingston's still out
for two years now, isn't he? One year and change at this
point. By the way, Speaking of
wrestlers being out HK, did you see that video that I sent to
the group about the AW Meltzer 5Star Bonanza bullshit?

(01:10:29):
I haven't watched yet but I didn't see that.
Yeah, you got to check that out.I will.
It's an it's an interesting deepdive by someone who kind of
analyzes what's happened to the five star system like in current
time, so. Dave Meltzer's five star system.
Well, I mean, who else? I mean we're we're fucking

(01:10:50):
talking about Joe Bose five starsystem.
If you look at Dave Meltzer's five star reviews, it changes
over time with his wrestling preference.
But all right, when you mentioned 5.
All right, Bron, No. Like I didn't watch the video,
but you had like, that's his five stars are his five stars.

(01:11:14):
That's his opinion. You watch the video, it's not
even his opinion. It's fucking pathetic really.
Once, once this guy breaks it down.
And I don't know who this guy is, but.
Well that's a problem. You should have fucking done
some research before. You, I fucking watch it, dude.
I do my research on Facebook. Yeah, you're.
Like I don't know who this guy is, it could be fucking me in a
monkey mask in my basement with.My it doesn't matter who the guy
is, but if he's talking and he'smaking sense, like how could you

(01:11:37):
fucking like just discredit him?Is the guy fucking double T in a
monkey mask in the basement? Not discrediting him, I'm
discrediting Dave Meltzer in hisfive star fucking reviews.
Well then you would like this guy because that's what he did.
But he like, he fucking breaks it all down.
It's crazy. Is it crazier than me picking
Shamus to beat Rousseff the only?

(01:11:58):
1. Yep.
Well, I don't watch. Fuck, I didn't.
I didn't know what the fucking story was.
Was there a story? I.
Don't fucking know. They've been feuding for a
couple of weeks now. Wait, you're the only asshole
that fucked up the perfect fucking weekend for the Wizards?
Oh, now it's a fucking team effort.
No, but it's 6O6O6O double T. Yeah, 5:00 and 1:00.

(01:12:22):
We could have fucking set a record this weekend.
Oh, now we're out to set records.
No, but it would have been kind of cool.
Like we're all on the same page.We all fucking, we all love
wrestling. But.
I start picking. The guy who's 10 games up on me,
I'm supposed to fucking conform to him so we could just be 6 and
O brothers? No, I'm trying to catch you.

(01:12:43):
Motherfucker, the only one catching anyone was it was HK.
He's catching you now. Yeah, we're tied now, yes.
You got to go. Fuck it up at Wrestle Palooze.
I'm not worried. Welcome to the basement.
Buddy, if you haven't been paying attention to pics the
last five years, I'm always in the fucking basement.
You were hot and when you. Came on.

(01:13:03):
We do bro. Stuff in this basement.
I'm out. I'm the bro stuff.
Basement lock on it. Yeah, I got the fuck.
I got the luck from the lock from Buck.
I said oh boy, you don't have tomarry him.
I did. I I did send my pics in early
too. Do I get an extra point for

(01:13:23):
that? No.
No. Figured I'd point for that.
I don't know, I just figured I'dfish for one.
Anyway, I mean, it didn't hurt for asking.
Yeah, I know it's trying. Let me put the the graphic up
there while we talk. A little clash in Paris.
So yeah, as Tony alluded to him,Brundo and HK scored perfect six

(01:13:44):
and O records. I mistakenly took Sheamus so
there's not a lot of change at the top of the board.
Brundo's still two games behind,but now me and HK are neck and
neck. I think the picks are wrong
there. Tony and I have the same losses.
Oh, yeah, OK, I got to fix that.That's not right.
So you will have 44 losses, Brundo.

(01:14:06):
Yeah. Yeah, yeah.
I was doing, I was doing a fantasy.
I appreciate that. I was doing a fantasy football
draft. I was watching Class in Paris
and I was editing things for theshow, so the the the record's
right on the bottom of the screen.
Though, and you know I'm not going.
To lie, I was a little, I was when I edit things and I'm doing

(01:14:30):
stuff in the stream yard, I'm downstairs in the living room.
So I was a little thrown off when I signed in and HK was in
there because I felt bad, like he wanted to try and talk to me.
I don't even know if he knew I'dstop by.
No idea. Good.
Because my settings are set for up here.
So down there I have to change all the settings and then I fuck
everything up and then I come back here and I can't hear you.

(01:14:51):
There's an echo. So I was like trying to get in
and out really fast. That's what you usually do.
But I, no, I was just, I was doing what I was doing.
OK? Didn't even realize you were
there. So I like to hear.
Yeah, how many times you ever heard it before?
Many times on paper, Clash in Paris seemed like a mid, a mid

(01:15:16):
show. It seemed like a raw, right?
Well, I wasn't overly excited for Clash in Paris, were you
guys? No, not at all.
No, I mean it judging by the three, six and OS every, it was
kind of predictable event. All right, don't.
Don't. Just don't.
I went five and one. That's still fucking winning.

(01:15:37):
I didn't go two and four at NXT Heat wave.
Hansel, Kevin. Sorry, but I didn't.
I shouldn't be. You shouldn't be catching
strays. What are you looking at?
What are you, Becca? Cats on the fucking on this the

(01:15:58):
window or something? Takeaways from Clash in Paris
What do you guys got for me? Crowd was insane.
Yes, crowd crowd was absolutely insane, which I think I think
really adds to the enjoyment of of viewing it when when the
crowd's that hot. For the most part, I I thought I

(01:16:21):
thought it was it was done well,even though it was very
predictable. I I liked I like what they did
with the Roman Reigns and and Bronson Reed like that.
I thought it was a it was a serviceable match and then the
like the afterwards shit like when it goes, it can go so far
and I'm like, all right, this isbullshit.
But then it like breaks through that barrier where you're like,

(01:16:42):
Oh, fuck, And they broke throughthat barrier where I went, Oh
fuck. After that match, that was I
thought that was that was well done.
I like, I like what they're doing with the, with the Wyatt
6, the Street Profits, that was.I'm gonna stop 'cause you're
gonna go through all the math, but I don't want, I want to stop
'cause I do want to talk, Bronson Reed.
I don't want for anything. Let me ask you this.

(01:17:04):
The extracurriculum bullshit didit, height did it.
Did it breakthrough that wall when Jay got involved?
Because Jay was also involved later in the night.
No, I think. I think for me, I was like, oh
shit, this is from a fan's perspective.
This is so serious right now. The beat down that they're
giving Roman, that Jay is going to risk injury and his chance to

(01:17:30):
get his title back to go out there and save his his unk.
And I was. Like wow this is intense right
now. I enjoyed it.
Yeah, that, that part of it, I guess never even crossed my
mind. It was just, it was fully the
the devastation that was going on to, to Roman, like when they
when they strapped to that boardand he hit up with another
tsunami after that. I I mean, my mind was just was
blown. Like I said, they they broke,

(01:17:50):
they broke through that barrier to where I went.
Oh fuck, enjoyed it. I enjoyed it.
And then even the like Brown breaker, when he jumped up on
that barricade and catwalk, thatmotherfucker, I was like, jeez,
I didn't realize he had that kind of balance.
He can't jump onto a second rope, but he can do this shit
blew my mind. The whole thing was I I thought

(01:18:10):
it was very well done. Brando, Tony.
I mean, I enjoyed it. I watched it last night.
It definitely I thought it was going to be too long, but I
thought it went great. Bronson and Roman had great
chemistry and I can't say I can't say I didn't enjoy it.

(01:18:31):
The the after stuff, I mean, I've seen it before, but it's
always impactful. Like he's done it to Seth, he
did it to Braun. But I wish they would have a
breakthrough for Bronson Reed. Like he's destroyed Seth, he's
destroyed Braun Strowman, he's now destroyed Roman Reigns.
It's like he they need to get tothe next level with this guy.

(01:18:55):
Otherwise he's just going to keep doing it to people and it's
going to mean less and less every time, I feel.
You don't think I, I feel like this was Bronson Reed's.
I feel like this was the Visionscoming out party, the clash in
Paris when it's all said and done.
And I think I mean Bronson, Reed, Roman Reigns, they went
for like 20 minutes and it was fucking good.

(01:19:15):
It was, yeah. It was like, way better than I
expected. Tony, what?
What about you? What are you thinking over there
besides pudding? I haven't seen the whole thing.
I didn't watch all of Roman and Bronson.
What I saw, I don't know, man. It just, it was just there for
me. It was just there for me.

(01:19:37):
Even even I went out of my way to make sure I watched Rusev and
Beeker first and. Rusev and what would you call
them? Beeker.
I have to remember the nicknamesbecause sometimes.
Oh no, he's he's normally Ultra Vince but he like I watched The

(01:19:58):
Muppets hosting Raw recently andit was like Beaker.
Of course, they had to have Beaker and Sheamus looking at
each other. Yeah, they went to the family
reunion. I was expecting, I was expecting
that to be more than what it was.
And it was just kind of there. And I even watched Cena and
Logan Paul and it was fine. But I'm just so fucking sick of

(01:20:18):
everybody kicking out of everything and then it just
becomes a match of can you top this?
Like I'm just tired of it. I was going to bring that up and
we got the roofs of Sheamus. Not just like, all right,
they're on the fucking barrels trying to hit a move.
You could have fucking done thatfrom the apron.
Why'd you have to do it from thebarrels?
And and you know what the crowd as as as OK as the tag title

(01:20:40):
match was to open the show, the crowd really didn't seem like it
gave a shit. Like that crowd was like they
wanted to cheer and at that point they will give them
nothing to cheer. It was fucked up.
Did not do the show. Roman and Bronson opened the.
Show. Oh well then maybe.
Well, whatever I. Mean the uncle tag match, I
think they shot their low and also like that tag match was

(01:21:01):
just announced Friday. Oh, booking AW style.
No wonder I hated this show. O'Dowd Bo?
Not Uncle Howdy, but Bo Dallas showed up and you know, he kind
of, there's a little dissension between the Street Profits and
Bo kind of questioned that. I think that's what this match
was about too, was the Street Profits dissension.

(01:21:21):
And sow the seeds of it. Oh, is that why B Fab was
yelling at them the whole time? Yeah, and that's why I like
Angelo Dawkins. Like there was dissension when
the match started with him beinglike kind of All Star and Montez
is kind of, you know, eyeballingthem.
And I think, you know, I think we'll get that break up and I
think, I think we'll see a nice singles run out of Montez.

(01:21:44):
I don't know what they do with Angelo.
Nothing. Yeah.
I mean, he's solid, but he's been there for a long fucking
time. You.
Think he has like a dark side inhim and they throw him in the Y
at six or no? We're just going to stick with
this is this. Is brave, guys, and that's it.
I think that realistically he isbest suited in A tag.

(01:22:07):
I don't. I don't think that he's got that
over the top like in ring style or the like that the the
charisma like like Ford has. So I, I really think that he's
best suited in the tag. So when they when they split,
unless, unless the feud is is super, super hot and both of
them come out, you know, over because of it, I think that he's

(01:22:30):
he's best suited to find anothertag partner or, you know, start
start seeing seeing him somewhere else, I guess.
Fair enough. What did you I cut you off
before we got to the the tag match, but your thoughts on the
tag match? So I, I really like the Y8 6 and
I really like the Street Profits.
I think they're both fantastic tag teams.

(01:22:51):
They are showing the, the dissension between the, the
street profits is something I'vebeen kind of waiting on for a
while because I really think that I, Montez is, is, I think
he's, he could be a huge star. I think he's fantastic in, in
everything that he does. But I, I still hate the
breakdown of tag rules. You know what I mean?
Like, and it's not, it's not as in your face as it is in in

(01:23:14):
other companies, But I, I just hate the breakdown of, of the
tag rules. So that's, that's the one thing
that I didn't like about this. But I said, being fans of both
of these teams, it was going to be hard for me to just
absolutely hate this match. Pretty biased on this now.
No, it would look it I, I liked it.
I I just wish the WWE would spend more time on their tag

(01:23:35):
division. Like they have like a lot of
good fucking tag teams, but like, you know, they also have a
lot of fuck. Superstar down right on
Smackdown. I feel like they've been doing a
lot more with the tag teams likelike Motor City, Machine Guns
and Fraxium and all that. They they usually get like a

(01:23:56):
pretty decent spot over the lastcouple of months.
Yeah, but then they get like they got thrown together in that
ladder match at SummerSlam. Like I just feel like there's
not the importance of the tag titles is not a focal point on
Smackdown. Like it was just like, oh, we're
just going to make this tag match Friday and now it's going
to be on this mid PLE. Like is there going to be A tag

(01:24:19):
title match at Wrestle Palooza? Probably not.
Maybe on maybe the royal tag titles?
Who the fuck is that? Yeah, I was just going to ask
Still judgement day or? Yeah.
Yeah, we've been in in JD. Yeah, McDonough.
Fergal, my guy. Fergal, this is a fun name.

(01:24:40):
It's just a fun name to say Fergal.
Becky and Nikki Knockers. Tolerable.
Yeah, yeah, Nikki actually looked looked better than what
she has so far, I thought, which, you know, I mean, a step
up from where she was. Isn't it's not earth shattering
or anything like that. I hated the the table, the table

(01:25:04):
spot. Like it just it looked like shit
and Becky wasn't doing anything to to help that spot out at all.
I don't know. I was.
Right after that, too, the the kick from the corner where it
looked like Becky was supposed to be there and wasn't.
Yeah, yeah, I think, I think that Nikki is, I don't know.
I don't know if she's she was never, she was never top flight

(01:25:28):
by any, you know what I mean? Like she was never super, super
talented in the ring when and she came back and she looked
fucking horrible. And he or she, I just, I don't
know, I thought she looked better, but I wasn't, I wasn't
pumped about this one to begin with.
I I, I kind of lost on on Becky Lynch now, but I mean Nikki
Pella, she's you know, she's she's got some slabs on her.

(01:25:50):
So that that definitely helped the doing.
Slabs. She's got some slabs.
You think it was just something to give the fans to in Paris
maybe? The fans gave a shit about Nikki
Bella either. It felt like it was the quietest
they were whenever Nikki was in control, at least in my opinion.
It wasn't a long match either, but for what it wasn't terrible.

(01:26:13):
No, no, it. Wasn't terrible, but Sheamus was
fucking long. See, I love that match.
I loved every second of that. I I knew it was what it was
going to be. I figured it'd be a long brawl,
a lot of weapons and stuff. But they've been building
towards it wasn't just weapons because of weapons.
It was these guys have had a feud.

(01:26:33):
It's been back and forth for a month or two now and now they're
going to blow it off and then knock down, drag out brawl.
Yeah. There need to be like 20
minutes. It didn't feel like 20 minutes
to me. I mean, it was what, the
probably the 4th, 4th shortest show or match on the show.

(01:26:54):
Logan Paul and Cena was longer. The four way was longer.
Yeah, I think Roman and Reed waslonger.
Too. That might have been all I know.
I know the. They were all 20.
So I know that Logan Paul and Cena was a long as it was like
25. See.
What the old Wikipedia says No, not clash of penis.

(01:27:17):
Penis, you say? Yes, penis.
HK maybe? I'm going to head back to the
playroom. Roman Rustev Sheamus was the
shortest out of the 20 minute matches.
I I hate when they do all that, the setting up all the shit
around the ring, it fucking bugsme it.

(01:27:38):
You know, like the barrels and the no, the.
Barrels and the but. Like I I TLC ladder matches that
kind of shit, I get it. But a good old fashioned
donnybrook and they'd fucking throw a bar top out there and a
bunch of fucking bar. Fuck that.
You didn't like the the Wade Barrett bringing up the League
of Nations and how they got in ascuffle before they went through

(01:28:00):
the curtains that I've never heard about?
Before that was, that was prettyfun.
I did get a kick out of that. But I just, I love that too.
When I was going to say they said they're like, oh, remember
when they kicked you out of the Wade League of Nations?
Wade's like best thing that everhappened to my career.
There it was very much like a New Japan match.

(01:28:24):
A lot of a lot of big finishes, a lot of no selling, a lot of
broke kicks into what do they call?
What do you call his? The Musta.
Kick What is What is Rousseff's kick a match?
Kick a match kick. Yeah, they were.
Look, I enjoyed it because that I like that.
Kind of like just dudes beating the dog shit out of each other.

(01:28:45):
But there was some. Dudes beat each other off.
I could have done without the barrel spot.
Yeah. I thought white what?
What's it called? White noise?
Is that the thing he does? What's the thing he did off the
top of the barrels? Yeah, that should have been the
finish. Yeah.
That, yeah, but it's hard. Go ahead, Brendo.
I'm sorry. Oh, that slam into the bar too,

(01:29:06):
That could have been the finish the way she was.
His head definitely hit the backof that hard and they called it
too like right afterwards, but that was pretty gnarly looking.
Shit out of each other. The the problem, the problem
with big moves like that outsidethe ring is you lose crowd
momentum trying to get him back in the ring.

(01:29:27):
That's why those moves will never be finishers, really,
because then the crowd's going to come down for a little bit
while you're trying to get back in the ring.
You really got to have fucking something tight where there's
some sort of urgency. Oh yeah, to fucking shit can
that guy right back in the ring and try to cover.
But that, that really doesn't work as a spot.
It's unfortunate because you know, it's unfortunate with all

(01:29:49):
these matches. They have the fucking big spots.
And then 1212. You know, like what the?
Fuck yeah. I'm interested to see where they
go with Rusev next because you know, like he's a bad guy.
Seth's champion so he's not going after that title right
now. Dom is IC champion.
So after two months of beating up Sheamus, where is it?

(01:30:11):
What? About.
Sammy's on the other show. He's US champion now in
Smackdown. Maybe he just shows up and says
fuck you and your US title. You know what I'd like?
I like when they, they, they, the storyline is they beat the
fuck out of each other for months and they earn each
other's respect and they, they start I I like that type of a
story. That's.

(01:30:31):
Basically what the bar was right?
Yeah, you know what? I wouldn't mind Sheamus and
Rousseff as A tag team. That's what I'm saying, yeah.
I was I was thinking the same thing when when he actually made
them tap. I was wondering if they were
going to get a little bro respect there.
I dude, I love the bar. I thought the bar was a huge
missed opportunity for both of those guys.
It was an amazing team. And then they jobbed the fucking

(01:30:52):
Nicholas on fucking WrestleMania.
Fucking Nicholas. I am the bar.
Fucking Nicholas sounds like Bucks Saturday night.
Jesus, Brendo. Holy shit.
Wow, wow. Well.

(01:31:16):
I got no follow up for that one.John Cena, Logan Paul, obviously
John Cena's last dance. He's getting the win.
Is it? Fair to flair, no?
To say that Logan Paul belongs. Of course he belongs.
It's it's all a gimmick. No, but I mean like he is he

(01:31:40):
could, he's been given great dance partners, right, His whole
career in the WWE, right? He worked with, what do you work
with, Ray? He worked with The Miz, he
worked with Roman, he worked with Seth.
He was in the Money in the Bank,Ricochet, Kevin Owens, like he's

(01:32:02):
had Cody Rhodes, dudes pretty good in the ring.
He's not, he's not Dean Malenko,he's not a fucking Bret Hart,
but he can hang. Like this was probably John
Cena's best outing. You know, back-to-back him and
him and Cody and now him and Logan.
Like this was this was good. I'm sorry, I know people fucking

(01:32:24):
hate Logan Paul, but I enjoyed this.
Do you think they're afraid thatif they put him in there with
somebody like lower down the card, it might not be as
successful? Or do you think they just want
to keep Logan Paul at that upperechelon because he's so good?

(01:32:45):
I think the fact that he doesn'tcome around a lot very much,
it's not like he's there workingevery Raw or smack down or
anything that they feel like they have to put him in there
with somebody big and make the biggest impact for the amount of
money they're dropping on him. He's also like a like, if you,
you know, this is, you know, Logan Paul's going to get

(01:33:08):
pressed. And what better way to promote
your brand than to have him get pressed with one of your big
superstars? But like.
He did. There was a point early in the
match where he had done something to Cena and Cena was
like kind of crawling away from him and he mimicked like he was
walking a dog. Like that's such a shithead
heel. Like I fucking hate this guy.

(01:33:29):
Like I think he just gets it andI think it pisses people the
fuck off. Like that's a pretty good ad Lib
thing to do. Like, again, I don't think he's
like the next like Steve Austin or Cody Rhodes or Hulk Hogan,
but like he. Fits.
A role and he plays it well. Yeah, I'm not I'm not a big fan

(01:33:52):
of his and I don't think that I ever will be a big fan of his.
But I think that like when you watch him, especially with, with
the, the, the match in Paris with Cena, you kind of hit it
right on the head. Like as far as being that real
shithead heel. Like he I, it seems like he gets

(01:34:12):
it a lot, a lot more than a lot of other people do.
And he does it. He does a great job of those in
ring, like get draw the heat moments.
He does a great job of those draw the heat moments.
And and for that, like I, I, I just, I'm not a fan of of his,
but I think he does a great job.Yeah, no, I look, I thought this

(01:34:37):
this might have been his best match.
Yeah, I didn't, I didn't. I still don't like the what are
we, what are we doing on Cena's last?
What has got 8 left now? You know what I mean?
Like that's, that's the part that that I'm not a huge fan of.
Like play the hits, play the hits, play the hits, Logan Paul.
And now we're going back to the hits, you know what I mean?

(01:34:59):
Like. I mean, look, it looks like
you're going to get Cena and Brock at Russell Palooza.
I mean, that's, you know, you can argue that's the biggest
stars last 20 years the WWE had and it's going to be on the ESPN
platform. So it's going to be big.
And then look, juice was not to have Cena and Brock captain

(01:35:21):
teams for war games. Like that's a pretty big deal.
I don't know how many war, I don't think Cena has been in a
war games, has he? No.
No, they didn't. By the time they brought it
back, he was pretty much gone. So to to check those, check
those boxes and look, I think I dunk biscuits isn't wrong.
The issue with Logan Paul is he doesn't get it at all.
We can agree to disagree, but heis just naturally a prick.

(01:35:43):
So he doesn't try to be a heel. It just happens.
Yeah. I mean, you know, what do they
say the best version of of some people is when they're just
themselves turned up to 12 or whatever, like, but I think he
does. I think he, like Triple H,
wouldn't use him if he didn't get it.
Right. That's fair.
Is that fair? Yeah, that's fair.

(01:36:05):
Yeah, look, I, you know, who knows?
But that's with everything, right?
John Cena's retirement tour. Like, how do you end The
Sopranos? How do you end the show that's
been around forever? Like there's no good way to do
it. There's maybe like one or two
shows that ended well. Like fucking what?

(01:36:25):
Mash and what? Futurama.
And then they brought it back. But yeah, nothing else.
So we'll see. I mean, who else have has
retired and had a great retirement?
I guess Flair did, but he bastardized.
That, but not like like this is like like we got like this is

(01:36:50):
his last run like it's a net like everyone knows it's coming
to an end. It's not like like Trish had
that match at at Revolution and like, it was assumed it was her
last match. But like, like HK said, like we
know now, we know that December Saturday night's main event,
like that's it. I mean, the only other person I

(01:37:11):
could think of, it wasn't WWE, but it was Sting.
You knew that was it for Sting when he was having his last
match. Wait, I thought, I thought they
moved Saturday night's Main event.
I thought I thought his last match was going to be not during
main event or did they move? Did they move main event to
Peacock exclusive? Was that what?
You guys said Saturday night's main event is now exclusive to
Peacock. So do you think we end the story

(01:37:35):
with him defeating Brock Lesnar and going out with a win?
Is that I mean? Like, who would you have John
Cena lose his final match to? That's the thing.
Does he have to? Lose.
Well, that this is this is the point.
Why not just have him go out with a big win?
Yeah, but it seems like they're going to push this John Cena,
Brock Lesnar thing to in 19 daysat this Wrestle Palooza to

(01:37:57):
really make an impact on ESPN. So that's where they're going.
If that's where you go with thatand then that leads to a War
games thing like, then that justleaves you with December.
And then what? Who's his?
Yeah. You think it's seen in the Rock?
I mean it could be it would bring closure to all the
bullshit that went on. Maybe they have a schmalz like

(01:38:19):
they did with Cody and and Romanat WrestleMania where all like
the the greatest hits come out at once and they all kind of
like take sides and then Cena gets the fucking final AA123.
What's left of the rock? You mean you see the pictures of
them today? Why?
What happened here today? He dropped like 60 lbs.

(01:38:40):
Just a little fella, wouldn't it?
Would it be and this is like I like the like I like going out
on your back, right? I I building building.
Up. Oh God, is that real?
And would it be a good spot to like Oba Femi, like a guy like

(01:39:00):
that, have him go over in on Cena on Cena's last match?
Would that be a great introduction to him in the like
on the main roster? You know what I mean?
Would would something like that work like you want to like you
want to you want to use John Cena's last match, his farewell
to build somebody else up comingup.
So you want to grab somebody, You know what I mean?

(01:39:21):
Somebody younger, some of the some of the talent.
I mean the the roster's old right now anyway.
So grab grabbing a guy like Oba I don't think is a bad like it's
not a bad play. I think Cena could sell that
too. Like they could do a thing where
like, you know, Cena could be like, you know, I saw, I've seen
this guy go through everybody onNXTI think he's the future.

(01:39:43):
And you know, I'm want to do everything I can to teach this
guy or something like that. Or, you know, I want to.
I want one match with him beforeI go away.
Look what's it's going. To be me.
For Owens, when Owens showed up for the open challenge, you know
what I mean? Like that was that was huge.
So. It was made right there.
Right. Be something.

(01:40:06):
That's interesting. But like, didn't we all say like
SummerSlam, like Cena was passing the torch to Cody?
Like wasn't that the narrative out there?
People saw that as like passing of the torch?
How many? Like if fucking Oba Femi beats
like if that comes to fruition, he beats John Cena.
Like he has to be in the main event at wrestle.

(01:40:28):
Like you can't have you can't. It's like when Baron Corbin beat
fucking Kurt Angle and then what?
Right. Like if you're going to do it,
it's got to be like super fucking impactful.
You can't have Oba Femi beat John Cena and then feud with
fucking Sami Zayn for US title. No, no beating.

(01:40:48):
Triple H. But you could take Oba, you
could have him go over on Cena and Cena's last match.
He takes that momentum into the Rumble, you know what I mean?
Like, he doesn't even have to win the Rumble.
He could, he could break the fucking, the eliminations record
something like, you know what I mean?
Like you could really build him up.
So by the time, you know, we hitthis time next year, he is main

(01:41:11):
event picture. It's I think that you could you
could build it that way. I don't think that you have to
go. He beats Cena, he wins the
rumble, he goes to Mania's main event.
I don't think that you have to do it that way.
It doesn't have to be those big leaps, but I think that there's
some definite stepping stones that you could put in place
where it's, you know, Cena big appearance at the Rumble next

(01:41:31):
paper, you know what I mean? I think you can do that with
him. I mean, the guy, the guy's, the
guy's got it. He definitely does.
He's, he's definitely one of thenext one of the next big guys
for. Sure, our buddy Kyle agrees with
you. Oprah, Oba Oprah bump Oba.
Femi should have a 2020 a 2002. Jesus Christ, Brockbush.

(01:41:53):
Yeah. Yeah, yeah.
I'm in on that. He's got it so freaking fast.
Like if you watch NXT and you look at their roster, who's
beating Oma Femi at this point? They've done such a good job
with them, even Ricky Saints. Sorry Rondo, I dunk biscuits.
Oba stepping up the Brock of theRumble would be exciting.

(01:42:13):
Exciting you fucking? I know.
I'm just being a Dick asshole. Tony, you.
I see you found a picture of ourbuddy Dwayne.
Oh yeah. We I guess we got to take the
the the squares down. Hold on.
Oh. Sorry.
No, I'm sorry. You're good.
Teamwork makes the dream work. He fucking looks like Al Roker.

(01:42:35):
He does look like Roke. What the?
Fuck, he's. A little thinner, a little.
He's a little, he's a little, you know, dabbling in that
Arthur Ashe dish. Oh, Jesus.
Dude come on man, he don't look how that's I mean he don't look

(01:42:58):
great. That kind of fucking party, huh?
How do you drop that? You know Ozempic bro 'cause
that's the big, that's all the rage, right?
You think he gets like fucking nasty Ozempic diarrhea?
Think it looks like the background of Tony's.
That can't be. That can't be Ozempic.
Ozempic doesn't make you. Well Ozempic does make you lose
muscle, but he probably just fucking stop working out and
stop eating fucking 3,000,000 calories a day.

(01:43:21):
He's got to have a A, a role he's prepping for.
It's got to be. What tennis star?
They should make a movie about him.
What? Come on.
Arthur Ashe was great at tennis.Arthur Ashe was great at tennis.

(01:43:44):
I can't even come back here if you need me anymore.
He's got a stadium named after him.
Yeah, we were there, yeah. They did AW there.
Great. Let's see, let's see, let's see,
let's see. He won the Australian Open.
He won the French Open. He won Wimbledon.
He won the US Open. Grand Slam winner.
We get it. Yeah, so what's the big?

(01:44:04):
Deal am IA Grand Slam winner because I polished one off at
Denny's. Yes.
Oh, he died of AIDS. Oh, never mind.
You didn't know that. He fucking knew that, Brundo.
We fucking dug a hole and you stepped right into it.
I guess so. Four Way Dance.

(01:44:29):
I think the biggest thing we took away out of this was I
guess Becky's part of the visionor are we going to go Seth and
and Becky against Punk and AJ? That's.
Where it's going got an update from RAW.
Oh. I don't know what exactly
happened, but Punk walked away from Becky Lynch, who was in the

(01:44:50):
ring and said you're going to regret putting your hands on me
and just walked out. Oh, maybe he's bringing in Jack
Perry. Cry me a river.
Maybe he's bringing in Floyd Mayweather.
Maybe he's bringing in Raja. Oh, Raja.
What'd you guys think of the four way?

(01:45:13):
That's I was going. To say it was, it was good
enough. It was good enough.
I don't think that my expectations were too high for
it. So it kind of sat where it
needed to for me. As soon as as soon as Becky got
in the ring, like I said, audibly watching the show myself

(01:45:34):
alone, that's Becky Lynch. Like it was.
It was just far too obvious to me and I couldn't tell you how
annoyed I was after the match where they went over and started
jaw jacking with Jelly roll and that other whatever, that other
fucking Post Malone. OK, yeah, the post man.

(01:45:54):
It just it was just fucking annoying.
Like it wasn't even like good wasn't even good heel work by
Becky. Like she's playing an air guitar
on the fucking world champion. The belt.
That's not even hurt. It was just it was just
annoying. It wasn't to me, it wasn't good
heel stuff. So it was it was fine.
I didn't care for the after the after the match bullshit and and
the Becky stuffed as soon as he saw her, you know, it was hers.

(01:46:15):
So I was, I was a little bit letdown by that.
But who do you think it was going to be?
I don't know. I don't know.
But you can't like Becky Lynch her size.
There's not. There's nobody else on the
roster that you could go. Oh, that's this person.
You know what I mean? Like, it was, it was far too
obvious who it was. And that was the disappointing

(01:46:36):
part to me. If you're going to do this, just
have it be Becky Lynch. Revealing her to be Becky Lynch
in, you know, full whatever she's wearing where you'd hide
her identity doesn't do shit forme.
For you, it doesn't do anything for the people live there.
Like who's this figure in black showing up?
And, and honestly, to see that she hasn't got involved with

(01:47:00):
Seth up into this point, it's kind of a surprise.
Like she was doing her own thing.
She, she's the IC champion. She wasn't part of the vision
when they got put together. Seth hasn't been involved in any
of her stuff. But double T earlier, earlier
before Seth went out there, he said that there's there's
always, he didn't say always a Plan B or whatever the hell it

(01:47:20):
was, but he kind of alluded thatthere's, there's always going to
be something else or how, I don't remember the exact quote
of how he said it, but he essentially alluded that there's
there's going to be somebody. Sure, but who?
Would like. It makes sense though.
Like Becky's his wife. Like what did you want?
Fucking Miles Bourne Like. Who?
I don't know. Don't bring your wife to the
ring. What?

(01:47:42):
Yeah, don't bring your wife to the ring.
She's a fucking wrestler. Yeah, I think we learned when
Jake Roberts brought whatever her name was, she's.
Not a wrestler and Jake Robertson you.
Say whatever about Cheryl Roberts.
And it's not even the first timethe two of them have been, you
know, teamed up together. They had that feud with Alexa

(01:48:03):
Bliss and Baron Corbin years ago.
That one's I mean, that's not toargue this one because that feud
fucking sucked, but. I don't know.
It makes sense. I don't know what your.
I think you need to temper your expectations.
Who did you think it was going to be?
The Sandman, Paul. Heyman do his.
Fucking bag. Of tricks.

(01:48:25):
No, I, it wasn't like I thought it was going to be the Sandman,
right? It was just the fact that I, I,
I fucking knew it was going to like that was the part that
bought. And like, you don't need to, you
don't need to hide her identity for her to do the reveal it.
It's not necessary to make it seem like it's something it's
not. It was like you said, it made
sense. You could see it coming.

(01:48:45):
Why hide her identity? Why doesn't she just run out
there? Because again.
You want the fans to react, you can't just, yeah, they don't
come out with her dumb fucking shitty new music.
She can run through the crowd orrun through everything.
Actually, it gets her down easier to get her down to the
ring. They turn off the lights, she
runs out in black and hides under the fucking ring.

(01:49:06):
I mean, three out of four of us went six and O like this whole
show was predictable. That's true.
You know, the right and fucking.It's essentially episodic TV.
They have to get to AJ Lee and Iguess this is the way we get.
There slide it up and in and in and in and in and in and slide
it up and in. You think that?

(01:49:27):
Slide it in, You think that? Jam it in.
Imagine. Ram it down.
Do you? Think that AJ Lee is going is
going to be anything upon her return.
Fuck yes, you know how much merchandise she's going to move.
No, no, I'm talking about in thering, just strictly in the ring.
100% she'll be so protected it'll be crazy.

(01:49:48):
OK, I. Also think like and.
Phil probably throws her around the bedroom.
Don't kid yourself A JS locked in an Anaconda vice or two.
Don't worry about her bro, she'll be fine all.
Right. Naked Anaconda vice I like.
Who said nobody said naked? She likes a rough fill up.
A serpent of pleasure. Why do you think?
Why do you think he's so fuckingangry all the time?

(01:50:10):
Dude I am so backed up. Fuck.
Yeah, I am taking some carrots in the mommy's playroom.
You leave mommy out of this. I didn't bring mommy in.
I'm talking about her playroom. What have you had that's not the
flavor? The flavor.
Oh, like pudding? That reminds me, I'm gonna make
some pudding when the show's over.
Good idea. Some shiny for the ladies.

(01:50:31):
Thank you for your service. Fuck yeah.
Well, you applied when they throw each other around the the.
Did you say bedroom? Yeah, just room.
No bedroom. I mean, if he wants to throw
around in the kitchen that's fine too.
Maybe some dinner. Whoa, whoa, watch out for the
real glass. No, she's selling it.
It's fine. Don't they pulls?
It Oh, she's selling. Yeah, she's selling.

(01:50:52):
It's all right. So work bro, Relax.
She's been gone long enough. You got to end The Sopranos
somehow. She's been gone long enough that
I think like her return is a fucking big deal and she's she
doesn't present to me as somebody who wouldn't be working
at her craft be like she's not going to come back to embarrass
herself. Like.

(01:51:15):
The AJ Lee era of the women's division was a huge step up.
Like it went from like Nikki Bella to AJ Lee.
Oh my God, AJ Lee comes back. She's 60 lbs heavier.
She fucking gets winded walking to the ring.
I. Mean she looks.
She looks like Gurtha Faye. Talking hilarious like she's
wearing her little fucking bootyshorts and her fucking like
Ricotta's hanging out and shit. Looks like she's baking baking

(01:51:38):
bread in her shoes. Oh my God, she's putting fucking
bakeries out of business with all the fucking rolls.
She went in the Miss Kangles competition.
She finally got ditz Jesus. She can't get she can't get her
Chuck Taylor's up on her fuckingcalves anymore.
Oh my God. Well, she just.
Where's the ankle wise? You're unbelievable.

(01:52:03):
The cut off shirt doesn't say TBD, it says to be continued her
underwear don't say BVD, it saysBlvd.

(01:52:23):
Speechless. They rocked me to my core.
Where you performing this weekend, Tony?
In front of this brick wall, obviously.
Tip the veal. Try the waitress.
Man, man. You could.
You could. Really, make a run for it,
buddy. Get out there, try the circuit,

(01:52:46):
do a couple open mics. Tropicale says at least they can
call her a bird. Double T night, night.
So I got to, I got to tell the guys about this, too.
Oh yeah, wait, get, get comfortable.
Also, I think it's. I think it's in reference.
You also have to explain like because you just sent a text to
the group Monday and it was likehelp yourself because you just

(01:53:08):
wanted to hear the car read it back to you and they didn't even
blink an eye. They didn't go to Blink.
An eye. Yeah, that's fine.
That had nothing to do with it. So after the show on Monday, we
went. We went to the the Tavern there
the hat. No, no, we didn't go.
To the hat, not the hat. Didn't go to the hat we went to.

(01:53:28):
I don't know what it was like. Tavern on the Rocks.
Tavern on the Rocks. Yeah.
And Double T was telling me I can't call battle axes birds.
I can't call him Broads. He was really adamant about
this. And I was informed by Ree that
you can and call battle axes Broads, you can call them birds.

(01:53:50):
All of it's acceptable. It all flies from Double TS
wife. But Double T seems to think
opposite. I think I'm siding with with the
wife on this one. Am I wrong guys?
Listen, I had a side with JerseyCow Jesse about fucking roll
roll. What the hell was his name?
Roly. Poly.
Roland. What the fuck was his name?
Rory. Rory, there you go.

(01:54:10):
Thank you. Also on the way from back to the
to the house from the Tavern we get a text in from the car from
mommy that said she fed the kiddies.
Oh no. Night, night, so and I didn't
know if that was a euphemism. I didn't know what was going on

(01:54:32):
in the playroom. So I'm in the back and it went
Mommy fed the kitties. Night, night.
So. We Tony, you know the way the
car reads the text message doesn't like stop.
There's no period. It just like so it was like fed
the kitties night night. So so we leave, we get in the

(01:54:53):
car to the get to the airport. Thank double T for everything.
And as we we leave night night, we get tropical leaves like I
don't know, 45 minutes before I do.
I walk tropical to his gate, give him a hug.
I said, man, I hope to see you again soon.
As I'm walking away, I go night night.
I I heard old tropical night. Night.

(01:55:17):
In the airport. They fit right in at Newark
Liberty, huh? Really.
Before. We get to homework.
I forget that this is an afternoon show, so I'm sure
everyone's a little more awake. But oh, you don't want to end at
10. O'clock, as usual.

(01:55:39):
I mean, we can. If would you be upset if there
was no AJ Lee and CM Punk chose Ria Ripley?
Upset. No.
Disappointed. Yeah, I would.

(01:56:00):
Only because it would make more sense if he's going to choose
somebody else, it'd make more sense for him to choose Bailey
you. Know Bailey's going through like
a midlife crisis. Yeah, she is true.
True, yeah. But she got that hiney though.
Well, you. Stopped.
When you put it. That way, not all Broads have

(01:56:21):
heinies. Double T The man doesn't have a
heinie. But we don't have to objectify
these ladies. Now, do battle axes necessarily
have heinies? I feel like they're more droopy
than anything. Yeah, it's hard to say with the
battle axe. Every now and again you have a
battle axe with some slabs though.
Yeah, like if the Battle axe looks more like a Gina Carano or
like a Xena Warrior Princess, then she's got some slabs.

(01:56:43):
But but when I think of battle Axe, like I think of like the
fucking like the vice principal of a Catholic school where she's
not a nun, but she can easily be1, you know what I mean?
Like, yeah, you don't want none.Like she's built not like a
Brock Lesnar, but more like a big boss man.
Yeah, I'm with you. You know that?

(01:57:04):
That's a true battle axe to me. You know who Miss Finster was a
battle. Axe.
Oh, Finster. Moist, I can't wait to read
Spotify tomorrow. The slabs of battle axes
explain. They, they fucking fucking
dumbed it down and it's all likeprofessional.
Sometimes some some of them could be pretty funny.

(01:57:25):
Slabs and battle axes discussion.
Yeah. I just call the fucking episodes
slabs and battle axes. What?
A set of ham hocks. Oh ham hocks, there you go.
See birds. I think birds have CM, and I
think that battle axes have slabs.
Yeah. And CM is crack meat, right?

(01:57:48):
Yeah, birds have crack meat. Crack meat?
You mean like like a like a puffy Mons?
Puffy Mons. Yeah, like, you know, like the
the underfront, not a FUPA, but like.
Oh, no, no, no. A little more puffy than roast.
Beefy poofy, poofy. There you go, poofy.

(01:58:09):
Sorry, I miss I mispronunciated.Poofy.
Poofy overall. What you guys think clash in
Paris though? Thumbs up, down, thumbs up,
thumbs down. What thumbs up.
Thumb up right it was. It was Joe.
It was better than I thought it was going to be.
Yeah, I'm incomplete. I'm I'm leaning toward down, but
I'll give it the benefit. I'll go back and watch some more

(01:58:30):
going down. No fucking kick out, kick out.
I'm getting tired of it. Sorry.
Yeah, yeah, there was way too much.
I didn't get to mention that, but in the.
I'd rather watch Larry. Paul match Jesus.
Yeah, I'd rather watch fucking Larry's Abisco beat the shit out
of Pete Doherty for 5 minutes. Yeah, I'm not that far.

(01:58:50):
I'm afraid I'm never going to see those again when the cock
goes away. I have.
I've give there's options I've. Given I know I know I'm.
Here to help you. I know and.
I'll tell you what, what's out there that I can get you way
better than what's on the cock. It's not dubbed original music
original. Commentary.
Ultimately though I'll give you this though in retort.

(01:59:14):
The cock is easier to watch on the TV anywhere in the house.
You know some of the other gimmicks like you kind of have
to sit down with your laptop or your your phone and.
You're. Casting and.
Shit, a casting gimmick. Yeah, I I get it.
I understand. The convenience of having like,
you know, like just to be able to press a button on the remote,

(01:59:36):
get the Amazon going or the Rokugoing and Peacocks there, It's
nice. Yeah, nothing easier than
hitting a button and get a nice cock on your TV.
Thank you nobody for laughing atthat.
I can. That's an easy one to isolate,
is there? There's got to is there a way?
Now this may be an off the air conversation.

(01:59:58):
Can I get my Google Drive on my TV box?
Do you have a Roku? I have a Chromecast because then
that would then that'd be super.That'd be.
I wouldn't have to cast from my laptop, just press a couple
buttons and watch. I well, you should be.
Wrestling you should be able to just take a cord and connect

(02:00:21):
your laptop to your I. Don't want to.
I would like to not do that though, because I still have to
leave my laptop open. Just get another laptop.
He's got like 4 laptops, I have two, what the fucks.
Problem here? What the fucks problem then?
You already got 2. I don't need 4.
I got an extra 1 laying around. You know what?

(02:00:43):
Wrong wizard. Here's here.
Couldn't help that was a softball.
That thing was the size of the fucking moon.
I fucking I fucking hit a Grand Slam like Juan Soto today, baby.
Does your TV have ausb input? Because sometimes what you can

(02:01:03):
do is if you get like you put your shit on like a on a on Ausb
stick. Yeah, you might be able to do
that. I can do that with my Roku.
I have a Roku Max, which is likea unit rather than just the
stick that you plug in the only unit you have.
I got me a big fucking unit. So you could plug this thing in

(02:01:23):
to the side of the Roku Max and it's got, it actually has like
the media app built in. So then I could just watch
whatever, listen to whatever. I I just put it all on the
stick. All right, we're going to have
to look into that. We're I'm going to have more
questions for you about that later, because that would blow
that would I'll tell you what the gimmick I have just released

(02:01:45):
20 disc set best of Tracy Smothers. 20 discs, That's
exactly what I. Thought 21.
Volumes 20. That sounds like everything
Tracy Smothers. Not the best of the.
First Match Tracy Smothers, Randy Savage, Memphis, 1985.

(02:02:08):
Please tell me there's FBI stuffon.
There oh 100% that's. Probably his best stuff.
It should just be all FBI. Dude, that SMW stuff when he was
with the thugs, that's fucking good stuff.
Oh, with the thugs. And then because thugs can't
spell. Yeah, I there's also fucking
Fred. There's a lot of Freddie Joe
Floyd on there, too. Yeah, the best of fucking yeah.

(02:02:30):
Exactly. Fred Floyd and Savio Vega versus
Justin Hawk Bradshaw and Uncle Zabekiah from Superstars.
Well, that get out of here. That counts.
Yeah, dude, Hutch Mantel wrestled.
Yes, yes. And that one's on Peacock.
That's crazy. Make sure you look up in Iwa mid
South where he calls the riot inthe fat crowd just goes off on
some old battle axe. I watched some IWA Puerto Rico

(02:02:53):
today. No, not today.
Yesterday. Were you excited, Danny Savio?
Tracy. Stuff all the way to to his last
Tracy Smothers Mitch Ryder tape fist match from XCW Midwest
2009. That sounds about right.
I tell you what, in terms of podcast, Dutch Mantel's the only

(02:03:14):
one that I currently listen to with any consistency.
The only one I'll check out, Eric Bischoff periodically,
maybe, you know, like JBL doing something to wrestle, but like
twice a week. Like that's the one I'm
listening to. I mean aside from our, you know,
network. How long are the what dirty?

(02:03:36):
What's it called? Dirty talk and dirty?
Dirty talk with Dutchman tell. It is actually called.
Dirty tell. Sorry, I was listening to the
current year year of Duke and Rogue so.
Me too. Let.
Me see shows it is called Story Time with Dutch Mantel.

(02:03:57):
So he'll do like, go ahead. How long are the episodes?
Like one to two hours. It really depends.
He'll do like he'll do a show like midweek where it's like
stuff that's on topic, stuff about like what's happening in
the news, like if they watch thepay per views and stuff.
And then like Saturday or Sundayshows are what you call it

(02:04:18):
questions for Dutch. So like, all he does is answer
questions. They're both.
They're both really great shows.The British guy, sometimes I
think he's a little fucking annoying, but for the most part
he does a good job. What?
Are you going against British people?
You have a ghost Double T There's a ghost in your house.
Thank. You.
That hurts Wonder Brendo flies friends.
I don't. Know waiting for it.

(02:04:41):
Waiting for it soon. As you said Ghost, I knew it was
coming. The the weather has been
handsome, Kevin, Whatever weather you and Tropicale
brought with you, it's been beautiful.
No problem brother. I got all the fucking windows
open. I sleep with the windows open at
night. Although yesterday morning when
I went to went to work, it was abalmy 48°.

(02:05:03):
I had to put the heat on in my car.
At 48° he put the heat on. It's fuck cold bro, I'm a bitch.
I hate the cold fucking. Pussy.
Yeah, yeah, you're fucking right, I am.
Do I need to bring a fucking heavy jacket in October?
Probably bring your fucking snowsuit I.
Don't wear a snowsuit. Honestly, I'm the fucking guy
that hates the cold. But when I go out I will suffer

(02:05:26):
for the car walk to wherever we're going so I don't have to
carry a fucking jacket with me. I'm that jerk off.
This. My wife buys me a fucking jacket
every year. She's like, this one's lighter
but it should keep you warm. And I'm like, I really don't
want to carry a fucking jacket with me ever.
Ever, ever. One of many types of jerk offs
you are. Why is?
Jerk off like this. I can jerk off like this, Lefty.

(02:05:48):
I don't. Know can I just tell you I
really wanted to post a picture that I found of like people at
Brundo's house and I fucking decided not to just for the.
Why do you have pictures of people at Brundo's house?
No, it's. People in hoods, I'll leave it
at that. I was this close and I'm like,
yeah, this is a fucking terribleidea.

(02:06:10):
I'm thinking like when did I have people over recently?
I'll tell you what it did. Not that you could talk about,
right? I was looking through Mommy
Fiero shared some pictures from Wild West City yesterday and I
was looking through to see if I could see Brundo out there.
Oh, you went to the ISPW show? The shows next month.
We went to Wild West City yesterday and they had the ISPW

(02:06:35):
wrestlers to promote it, so theythey were involved in skits and
stuff. Former guest Alex Riley, a
deputy shooting down Justin Carino, Alex Ryman.
Ryman. Yeah, you said Alex Riley.
Yeah, I'm on. Fucking.
Fire today. Although I would brundo please
take please take a note. What else is on fire?
Brundo Fuck. This front lawn I really want to

(02:07:00):
post this. Picture Dutch Mantel.
I would love to talk to Dutch. I'll take a look.
I do have so Brendo told me. I do have a horrifying Wild West
city story and I don't know if I've told on the podcast before.
Today's the day. So Brendo told me when we did
the Patreon, he's bringing his son to Wild West City cuz his

(02:07:22):
son has a he likes Red Dead Redemption, right?
Makes sense. Yeah, when my parents brought me
there, I was like 1213 years oldand it was way too hokey for me.
You're too busy cutting yourselfwith fucking box cutters.
Like, no, I was not. I didn't know about Sabu yet,
but I did. We were walking around at

(02:07:44):
looking at the animals and therewas a horse and I thought it was
taking a shit, but my mother wasvery quick to point out that it
was the horse's cock. That wait, wait, that's not a
shit, Matthew. That's his Dick.

(02:08:05):
Yeah, why isn't he shaking that one off?
Because then he coming off. Double T still doesn't feel like
a man. It it was something it
definitely affected my the rest of my childhood.
He. Said yeah, I think, you know
what, I could probably get into that.
Or that could get into me. Oh yeah.

(02:08:28):
This is pre Internet folks so I didn't know why mom knew what a
horse cock look like. So yeah, you.
Didn't watch Mr. Hands. This is pre Internet so I guess
not. What happened, Brendo?
Mr. Hands caught me. No, Mr. Hands got Mickie James

(02:08:49):
too. Jesus.
What? She got the reference when I
made the joke. Yeah, I know.
But we interviewed her. Well, she's a Centaur.
Before we get into homework, just a quick note, Brenda, I'm
sure in on the same page with meabout this.
AW, dynamite. Awesome.
Loved it. Yeah.
A very entertaining episode for sure.

(02:09:10):
Yeah, loved it. Looks great at the 2300 arena.
Wait, they did AW and Ring of Honor?
Yes. There's two weeks too.
Next for like the next couple weeks and they did collision
there, Tony. That's what a residency is.
What's what? I don't know what's the what's
wrong, Tony? Nope.

(02:09:31):
Nope. What's the question?
Nope. Why?
No question. Days.
No answer. Will the residency keep going?
It sells out. You put 1500 people in there, it
looks fucking great. People that want to be there
want to be there. The crowd is hot.
It's cool television, National product, 1500 people hot.
Of course it's hot. It's Philly.

(02:09:52):
That building is fucking 10,000°.
Like I they've updated it. It looked great.
Yep, look great. I loved it.
I love the Moxley Daniel. Garcia, how come they're not
doing shows at the fucking Disney MGM Studios where WCW
fucking died? That would be more proported to
fucking AW. Am I wrong?
They did the Ring of Honor recordings when they first got

(02:10:14):
it right. They were down there and it's a
sound stage where TNA did the show.
Well, why not? Mickey Mouse is running the
fucking promotion anyway, so a. Couple of haters over here.
I got HK with that one. HK back there.
If we need us, it's going to be another $10,000 match.
Whoa. Hurt.
You, Sarah. 150K Whoa. Did you walk?

(02:10:37):
Me? Did did.
Did you try this week again or are you out?
AW, yeah, yeah, I tried a littlebit.
I tried a little bit. I can tell by this that you not
for you. Yeah, I tried, I tried.
I forget. What the fuck did I see?

(02:10:58):
Boy, what was there was there was a bird match on this, wasn't
there? Yes, Harley Cameron and Chris
Stalin are against Megan Payne and Penelope Ford.
Yeah, I'll. I'll watch.
I'll watch still wrestling. I'll watch, I'll watch Megan
Payne. So I saw that.
OK. And then I believe, yeah.

(02:11:20):
What was next was that? A man.
Yeah, yeah, I was done. I was, I was.
I was laughing and my wife, my wife walked into the the room
and and she goes it's a good thing you love AW and I said
Nope and I turned the channel off.
Planting the seeds take a shit in Okada's coming up.

(02:11:42):
Yeah, yeah. Sooner rather than later, I'm at
Hey, I'm excited for that one. Yeah, I'm good with that.
Yeah, I actually think, I think there's me thinking outside the
box. I think because to catch the one
of the G1 he takes on Zach at the King of Pro Wrestling.

(02:12:03):
I think AW does New Japan the solid and they send Okada back
there to interfere in that match.
I do. I do have one issue with with AW
this week. OK, OK.
Only one. Yeah, yeah, that's, that's, I
didn't, I watched the the bird match, but the tribute to Taz,

(02:12:24):
right? The tribute to Taz and all,
everybody comes out wearing thatorange, kind of like a Team Taz
type shirt, right? Tony Khan comes out, but he's
got to have his jacket zipped upuntil he reveals that he's also
wearing the fucking same like the orange shirts hanging out

(02:12:45):
and like, what are you doing? Maybe it's cold.
Was that like a Internet? I don't that was not on
dynamite. Though no, that was afterwards
it was. Afterwards, but it's like when
you're hiding the shirt that everybody else is wearing too,
to reveal that you're also wearing the same fucking shirt.
Oh. Next Man, it's like Becky Lynch
being dressed in all black. It's just walk out wearing the
shirt that everybody else is fucking walking out with.

(02:13:07):
You got to separate yourself with your stupid fucking puffy.
Good you got a bomber jacket on you dill hole.
I didn't see this. Word.
Tony Khan's shirt touched Ah. Go suck a bumper fuck.
Where did it hurt you? Something that wasn't even on
fucking TV? Go.
Suck fucking cares. Suck after the fucking.

(02:13:30):
Show who cares? Go.
Suck a bumper fuck face. Wow, I'll.
Write that down. No, I'm with you, Brando.
Fuck. Fuck you, of course.
You are. No what's?
The fuck? You're just.
Fucking hating the hate. It wasn't even on TV.
You saw it on the fucking Internet.
Why? Why you tell me right now why he
couldn't wear the same fucking shirt that everybody else came

(02:13:52):
up to honor Taz. That's the thing, he told
everybody, get out there, Honor Taz.
Honor Taz. But then.
Also from this dynamite it looked like all the production
was Outback behind the 2300 arena and these nights have been
balmy so I'm sure it was fuckingcold out there.
Yeah. Well, gives a shit.

(02:14:14):
Suck A. Bumper.
You suck a bumper. You.
You. Suck a dumper.
You call me a freak, I'll freak.Tropical.
It's chilly on the nose. Candy Night, night night.
Night. Good night.
Night now. Fuck fuck.
Damn Brando, I'm with you fucking cock suckers.

(02:14:37):
You're a cock sucker. You're a fucking nitpicking
freaking curtain jerk and you'reall fucking upset because he
fucking tried to hide his Team Taz shirt.
Who cares? Why is he doing it?
Because you don't know he. Just probably didn't think the
fucking multibillion dollar owner of the company is also
going to. Wear a shirt, Who cares?

(02:14:57):
There you go, double to your. Fucking head at least.
Jesus Christ, let's get. No.
Why? No.
It's how you. Feel night, night.
Can I put my head in? There.
Yeah, you can. Sorry night there.
Been fucking beam boozled. I do.
There are a couple things I didn't understand.

(02:15:17):
The Mercedes more than anything.I know they're trying to set up
her and Alex Windsor. I just don't give a fuck to put
her in the ring with all her stupid fucking belts.
Some of them look like fucking Tony made him in his basement,
which is not a slam at Tony, butit's more of a slam at some of
these promotions who just buy these belts from belt makers and
put a fucking sticker on it thatthey printed off their fucking
printer. Like it's kind of embarrassing.

(02:15:39):
Don't show some of these titles.Why would you bring out fucking
7 independent wrestling titles on a fucking national TV show?
Why? I don't.
And you're still carrying aroundthe Owen heartbelt like it
fucking means something after the tournament.
It doesn't, yeah. I'm with you.
It's a trophy. 8 bolts Monet or 9 belts or whatever.
Going after all, fucking dragon.Yeah.

(02:16:00):
But the her segment did nothing.I really hope Alex.
Will fucking. Beat her Wednesday night.
I really do. I really do.
I think back to when HK was like, does she bring anything to
the table? And there was a little discourse
in the chat. Honestly, I really don't think
she does, man. I think there's women on that
roster that are a lot fucking better than her.

(02:16:21):
Yeah, Yes, there are, because that's the stuff that I tuned in
for. I just, I didn't.
Like Alex Windsor. But I if somebody's going to
beat her, I'd rather it be somebody else.
What? Does.
Windsor. I.
Really, Aminata, Give me Willow,Give me Statlander.
Somebody. The problem with all these,
they're just, they're just all like Queen Aminata is now in the

(02:16:44):
pure rules fucking tournament onring of on.
Like they're just, there's too much fucking back and forth and,
and again, at the end of the day, none of it means fuck off.
Ring Fucking Bandito's the Ring of Honor world champion, but
he's also the AW World Tag Team champion and the AW World Tag
Team Championship gets more fanfare than him being the world

(02:17:04):
champion does. So just don't fucking put belts
on these fucking guys. They're gonna hold.
Belts in belts in both companies.
If you're a Ring of Honor guy, leave him in fucking Ring of
Honor pissed. Yeah, fuck.
Face. Shit, it's fucking, it's
fucking. It's like thumbtacks in the
balls. Pisses me off.
Yeah, smoke my big flat. Balls on an oven.

(02:17:27):
You got a flat Dick. I'm fucked up.
I also could we do homework? Fuck.
AW hold on, I just got it. Just just one thing I guess.
We are going to 10:00 HK. No.
I like the Daniel Garcia stuff. I like the Moxley stuff.
Right. Moxley's been highlighting these
younger. Dancers great matches out of
them how many fucking? Times Are they going to do this

(02:17:49):
thing with Daniel Garcia where we don't know who he's going to
fucking side? With because nobody cares.
I don't know. We just finished doing it with
the FDR stuff. Oh yeah.
And now he's now Moxley's fucking licking his ear before
the collision match and. Like.
I don't know. And there's guess what, guys?
Guess what? Guess what?
There's two holograms. Oh, like sin Cara.

(02:18:13):
We're going to find out We got afucking crazy code during
collision. I didn't finish Collision so
don't spoil it for me. I didn't watch Collision.
No problem. Overall, I like Dynamite.
The Darby Claudio stuff was great.
Look, if Darby doesn't give a shit about his own safety, I

(02:18:34):
don't give a shit about his own safety anymore.
So take all the fucking wild bumps you want, dude, go nuts.
I'm here for it. I'm here for it.
And you know what else I'm here for homework.
I'm here for homework. I took you guys back to WCW
Saturday night, July 30th, 1994.The Stinger and the Dragon

(02:18:57):
against Ric Flair and stunning Steve Austin, your United States
World Heavyweight Champion with the sensational Sherry.
What did you guys think of this tag team match?
Sensuous Sherry, As I say, she wasn't sensational here.
Sorry. Sensuous.

(02:19:18):
I don't know. I'll talk at once.
So I, I liked the feel of it, like it, it, it, it really took
me to like, you know, that nostalgia feel.
The crowd was insane. Like the crowd.
I, I, I was shocked at how how up the crowd was and it
seemingly for the entire match when Stinger went flying over

(02:19:40):
the top, I laughed my balls off because I thought, because I
thought he clipped Flair too on his way over.
It looked like I was like, was he throwing a fucking kick?
Because I don't know what the fuck was happening there.
The the work that Steve Austin does in WCW, it's always nice to
see because he's he's working differently than he does as

(02:20:02):
Stone Cold Steve Austin. And both ways that he works
works very well. Like he is you kind of get to
see the the all around this of of what what he is when you do
flip on his WCW stuff, which is which is fantastic.
Sherry in this one was, you know, Sherry, I guess not a not
a huge like I'm not a huge Sherry guy, but I always love

(02:20:23):
the spot where, you know, you put her in front and what
Stinger going to do, you know, ultimate good guy.
Almost like that Marina Shafir spot a couple weeks ago where he
didn't punch her. Right, yeah.
And then they just both fucking walked away.
Didn't even say a word. All right, I'll walk over here
and all right, I'll walk over here and nothing.
Yeah, that's that's cool. Not even a referee to say, hey,
you guys go over here. You go over here because the
referee's jerking off at the corner because it's a jerk off
show for fucking jerk off to jerk off to suck a bumper fuck

(02:20:47):
face. Anyways, like I was saying, the
thing that kind of brought me down in this match was was the
finish like the finish was not it it like they didn't focus on
the finish when it was the finish.
And so then I was really ramped up to see the replay.
You know, I was I was expect andthere was no replay, right?
So and then I went on to watch Festival.

(02:21:08):
De Lucha, yeah. It's W That's WCW at its finest.
Yeah, yeah. It was fun though.
It was. It was fun.
It was some weird spots like RicFlair, like running circles
around Steamboat in Austin, fucking Stinger, Jason, Like,
what are you doing? You fucking playing cat and
mouse in the middle of the fucking match?
Who's the leaguer, man? Like what's going on?

(02:21:30):
Such a weird, it's such a, it's such a weird time for WCW 2
because Hogan just comes in likethey're putting it over on
commentary like this is Flair's like he's going to rematch Hogan
at clash, Like this is the end of like this.
I, I don't think Steamboat's long for this world.
I think he quits not long after.This.

(02:21:51):
One more month, he gets hurt andthat was it.
I I looked that up because I thought it was like, I thought
this could have even been his last match, but he gives up the
title or has to give up the title to Austin.
What was it? August 26th of that year, I
believe. So he's got one more, one more
month of Ricky Steamboat. Yeah, Tony, what'd you think?

(02:22:18):
Overall I liked it. It was long.
There was a. Lot that I didn't wind up
liking. I do agree that it was long.
I think there was several times where people were confused as to
who was legal, who wasn't legal.Even the wrestlers were the
referee was Sherri getting involved?

(02:22:38):
Of course. Always makes me happy.
I like that Austin getting the win while there was chaos going
on, rolling up Steamboat in the background.
Typical WCW where it was caught but it really wasn't caught, you
know what I mean? I was leaning toward hating
this, but I kind of agree with HK where it felt like it brought

(02:23:00):
me back and like right away whenthey're talking about Hogan and
Flair's getting his rematch, I'mlike, well, Flair's got to win
this. Like there's no way he's losing
this match. And sure enough, they they wound
up winning. It's just a little weird, like,
I don't know, like Austin and Flair together.
Like, and I get where Austin wasat this point.

(02:23:22):
It was just weird seeing them together, but it worked.
It worked. All four of them worked.
Yeah, they work good, man. It's just such a weird.
Again, it's a weird. And this was our main event, no?
Yeah, Saturday night, I thought they said.
Yeah. Yeah, it was two weeks after
Dash at the Beach. Yeah.
And it was heading towards the the whatever clash was next.

(02:23:45):
I know the the crazy thing aboutthis period of WCW was right
before Hogan came in, I feel like they were hitting on their
best storytelling ever. There was a lot going on with
the stories, the way things werebeing booked.
I especially loved and they carried it on the whole Sting

(02:24:05):
Luger thing where they were theywere buddies and they were tag
champs. But then Luger kept playing the
heel and Sting like was was the baby face.
But he never saw Luger cheating or doing bad things.
And then when he heard about things, he asked onebody he goes
no, like shit like that was going on was compelling.
But then eventually it became like the whole Hogan versus
Dungeon of Doom and everybody else kind of show.

(02:24:27):
And that kind of fucking soured me.
But I enjoyed this, I enjoyed this.
Yeah, so they went to the Clash was right after this.
This is where Steamboat beats Austin for the title, but he
hurts himself so he has to give back the title.
They alluded to it on commentary, the Dusty Dustin tag
team. Yeah, I noticed that.

(02:24:48):
They said like, oh, I don't think they've ever teamed
before, you know, And they mentioned like once in Japan or
like never in WWE before, 'causethey definitely teamed in WWF,
right? Yeah, very tail end.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. His tail I think it was dem
against. Virgil and yeah.
Dibiase, yeah. Yeah 'cause doesn't Dibiase get

(02:25:11):
hit by like an egg in the post match stuff?
Go back and watch it. I'm pretty sure somebody hucks
an egg. He's an egg sucking dog.
That's awesome. Awesome.
I will go out on a limb too and say this, I prefer surfers thing
way more over the crowd. Oh for sure, 100% he had his
fucking working boots on for this.
Like I know a lot of people don't rate Sting up there as

(02:25:34):
like a really great worker, but here he was fucking, he was on
the money, he was on fire with it.
Except for that fucking spin kick dive thing over the top
where I audibly said what the fuck.
Yeah, he's doing all the Kip UPSand everything.
Like I'm, I'm probably not in the, I'm probably in the
majority. A lot of people remember just

(02:25:55):
crow sting, but surface sting, you know, like how athletic he
was. It's amazing.
He was tan. He was in shape.
Hogan would have lost to this. Thing I fucking love every time
Ric Flair chops. I mean, he just stands there
like, what are you trying to do?Gets to every time and I don't
know if it was the way it was shot.
He looked enormous in the rings.Thing did early in the match

(02:26:19):
where Flare they do the, you know, Sting, Flare, they have
their thing and Flare is on the ground like backing away.
No, no, no. When they pan out, Sting looks
giant. Yeah.
He looks fucking massive. Yeah, I thought this was fun.
It went a little long for me. I did when I when we got like 16
minutes in and I'm like, this isstill going on.

(02:26:41):
But the Heenan. Heenan was fucking on fire too.
He was. Fucking great your grandmother
has a dress like that. No, when he said, when he said
he took Hogan because everythingwas riding high for him and
Hogan won the title, he said nowI feel like it's all Flair's
momentum. Flair's going to win the
rematch. It's like it was good shit.
Like he was completely honest about how he felt about Hogan

(02:27:03):
coming in and like riding the wave.
But then he was like, you know what?
Right back to where he was. I'm Flair.
This is Flair's match to win. He's going to win the title
back. Yeah.
Anything. Sherry's evolved.
This is amazing. Yeah.
Although Sting pressed Sherry tothe outside and Sherry just
overshot Flair. And I was like.
Whoa, I. Thought she kind of like slid

(02:27:25):
down flair in the front of it a little bit too.
She fucking pancake, bro. And it wasn't.
That was the finish, though, because in the background, that
was when Austin got the roll up,Yeah.
Yeah, this is like, to me, this is Pete Cherry, her and Ric
Flair and just all the involvement.
I know she gets involved in the Ric Flair again retirement match

(02:27:45):
or whatever. She was like all over that one.
This is like her at the top of her game.
I feel like even more so than Savage and Dibiase.
But I think also she she coastednicely into being involved with
Harlem Heat from this. Yeah.
Like her time with Harlem Heat was really good shit, too.
Like, I, I mean, you can look ateither one of these and like,

(02:28:06):
pick, put one over the other. I wouldn't argue against you.
But yeah, this, this was this was Sherri at her best with when
she was a Ric Flair 100%. Where did you guys, what did you
fall? Thumbs up, thumbs down.
We like. This I'm up on this.
Thumbs up for sure. Yeah.
He's up. The streak continues.
Streak continues. I was dude, when I started

(02:28:27):
watching, I was like, I don't know if I'm feeling this one,
but it won me over. It won me I.
Needed a redemption from the last.
What was my last one? You must have had a good one
because the streak's been going.Yeah, I.
Forgot what it was though. Who was it?
Hold on. I want to know now.
Now I want to know. It wasn't some ring.

(02:28:48):
It was. Vader, Dustin, wasn't it?
Yes, it was Vader. Dustin.
Yeah. Yeah, and that really grow good
too. BCW shit, I got to fix it.
I got to write my write the shiphere.
Brando, what are you going? What are you going to do to us,
buddy? So I think I in my opinion, I
think the streak is going to keep going.
AW is in ECW Arena, so we're going back to ECW Guilty as

(02:29:13):
charged 2000. We'll be watching Mike Awesome
versus little Spike Dudley main event.
Oh God. Two of by far and away my
favorite ECW wrestlers. The fucking the best David,
Goliath versus Goliath you can get is just that fucking
mountain of a man, Mike Awesome against the perennial runt of

(02:29:36):
the Dudleys, little Spike Dudley.
That's a ballsy choice man cuz there's not really a lot that
was great about ECW in 2000. I think this was, I think
awesome. Awesome was always a highlight
in ECW. So and Spike Dudley I'll
fucking. I fucking love everything Spike
Dudley ever did. And, and he was ECW champion at

(02:29:59):
this. Point Yeah, yeah, he was ECW
champion with Jeff Jones. So this has got to be coming
around the time when he fucking bows out, right?
Yeah, he was on Chris Van Vleet recently and they he gets hurt,
I believe in this match, Spike, Spike says.
Hey, I was. Confused as shit I was.
Like whoa, they brought in a medium.

(02:30:21):
But he said like Paul even told him like if he wasn't hurt he
thought about dropping the awesome drop in the title to him
instead of Taz. But he broke his leg, I believe,
in this match or one before or after it.
That would have been cool as shit.
Imagine like that would have. I think that maybe makes a
better moment than Mikey Whitbrick winning the title.

(02:30:44):
Maybe. Possibly.
But does it in 2000 ECW like youknow what I mean like.
I think because it's still riding a pretty good wave, it's
in the beginning of 2000, so I think they could have gotten
something good out of that. It's not like he's gonna hold it
for very much longer. He'll probably lose it the
everybody's favorite PJ pretty soon after that.

(02:31:06):
This was so here's the card fromGuiltiest Charge 2000 CW
Anderson against Mikey Wipreck during Roadkill, Simon Diamond
against Nova, Kid Cash and Jazz,Tajirian, Super Crazy against
Little Guido and Jerry Lynn, Angel against New Jack.

(02:31:26):
Oh God. RVD Sabu for the ECWTV title,
the unlikely ECW Tag Team Champions, Tommy Dreamer and
Raven against the Impact Players, and Mike Awesome
against Spike Dudley. Yikes, that is a wild ECW show.

(02:31:48):
But I look forward to the main event.
Is that it? I'm hungry, I'm hungry, I'm not
feeling, I'm not feeling great. I'm not feeling great right now.
Why? Because I haven't eaten all day.
I'm starting to get lightheaded.Well, whose fault is that?
That's my own fault, but I'm notused to these afternoon shows.

(02:32:10):
I have a routine. Damn, one fucking show.
He's like, I'm not used to these, like, like it's a weekly
thing. Well, I mean, last week we were
live in studio. Yeah.
This week we did a three o'clockshow.
Yeah, now you'll have time to eat tacos at fucking 6:00
instead of fucking midnight. Bro I'm still.
Eating fucking hot dogs. Go get some White Castle.

(02:32:32):
I got to eat at least 2 hot dogsright now.
Oh. Yeah.
At least two. Well, my wife is off from work,
so I don't know what. Maybe we'll go out for dinner.
We never get to do anything likethat together.
Golden Gate. Bread, tea.
Don't do that. Don't.
Don't be disrespectful to my wife.
Wait, who said to your wife? What are you talking about?

(02:32:53):
You said though a couple, the double gate, double TI.
Said Golden Gate Double T How isthat respectful to,
disrespectful to? Your she's a foot doctor so like
she's not far from the asshole. What the what?
Drop a gal. Double fisting the dogs.
Night, night. I would never ask my wife to go

(02:33:14):
anywhere near my butt hole. Jesse says you still, you said
I'm still eating hot dogs like it's a bad thing.
He's he's bringing some to Rory.Rory alone.
You better freeze them first. He's a nice guy.
He's going to come running in like The Ultimate Warrior with

(02:33:38):
fucking wieners in hand. Yeah, he seems like the kind of
guy that eats hot dogs for the shapes.
Jesus Christ. For the shapes.
Double T. Oh my God, what do we got?
Special thanks to the Juice Juice Springsteen, The Juice Box

(02:33:59):
for joining us next week. Brian Solomon returns author of
the the original Sheet book and the upcoming Gorilla Monsoon
book. So that'll be right in Tony
Tony's wheelhouse. I know that and I will not be
here. So you guys can do do a show
without me? Show's over at 9 next week,
boys. I don't.

(02:34:20):
Know the. Problem.
Night, night, night, night. We have that to look forward to
next week and yeah, I don't know, let's fucking.
Let's go home till he cancels at4:30.
No. Say it No, Brian Solomon's a

(02:34:41):
professional. Why would you?
Put that out into the universe. Because I'm fucking hungry.
Got to go. I'm hungry, got to go.
And with that, come on, come on,shut up.
Shut up. It's fucking fucking cute.
And music. Jesus.
I got to read the gimmick right.This has been a production of
the Shining Wizards Network. For everything Shining Wizards,

(02:35:05):
visit shiningwizards.com and don't forget to listen to all
the great shows of the Shining Wizards Network.
We'd like to We'd like to let those that support us on our
Patreon Executive producers Manny Crotzo and Mike Peterson,
Producers Kate Hensler, Matt Griffo, High 5 Tom Ryan Schlong,
Al Day Scott George, Jesse Elwa Cumber, Michael Hammond, Keith

(02:35:28):
Parker, Emily Brock I Dunk Biscuits and David Henry Bauer
the Third. Good.

(02:36:07):
At night, Diana. Although she got some hitters.
Mom, I'm not going to lie, dude,I am so backed up.
Oh, I'm shaking in my boots. Why those drops are so loud?
She's. Always this didn't taste like

(02:36:31):
cookies or pussy. What the fuck is wrong?
What have you had that? Not the flavor.
I already played that a bunch. One in the stink.
Just hammer it on. Anything else?

(02:36:52):
I think I played off the new drops already.
I got that. I got that this one.
There are probably some feet outthere worse than your asshole.
There we go, That's the better one.
That's all I got. All right, horny, you gotta go.
Guys, we'll see you next week.
Advertise With Us

Popular Podcasts

On Purpose with Jay Shetty

On Purpose with Jay Shetty

I’m Jay Shetty host of On Purpose the worlds #1 Mental Health podcast and I’m so grateful you found us. I started this podcast 5 years ago to invite you into conversations and workshops that are designed to help make you happier, healthier and more healed. I believe that when you (yes you) feel seen, heard and understood you’re able to deal with relationship struggles, work challenges and life’s ups and downs with more ease and grace. I interview experts, celebrities, thought leaders and athletes so that we can grow our mindset, build better habits and uncover a side of them we’ve never seen before. New episodes every Monday and Friday. Your support means the world to me and I don’t take it for granted — click the follow button and leave a review to help us spread the love with On Purpose. I can’t wait for you to listen to your first or 500th episode!

Stuff You Should Know

Stuff You Should Know

If you've ever wanted to know about champagne, satanism, the Stonewall Uprising, chaos theory, LSD, El Nino, true crime and Rosa Parks, then look no further. Josh and Chuck have you covered.

Dateline NBC

Dateline NBC

Current and classic episodes, featuring compelling true-crime mysteries, powerful documentaries and in-depth investigations. Follow now to get the latest episodes of Dateline NBC completely free, or subscribe to Dateline Premium for ad-free listening and exclusive bonus content: DatelinePremium.com

Music, radio and podcasts, all free. Listen online or download the iHeart App.

Connect

© 2025 iHeartMedia, Inc.