Episode 762: Do Not Request a Lanny

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All right, it is episode 762 of the Shining Wizards Podcast.
And tonight, back from the dead and on to the Zoom here we got
the Macho Man Randy Savage or a Macho Man probably asking, I
don't know, about Stephanie McMahon or something like that.
We'll find out later we got NXT versus TNA shaping up to be

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something probably about as goodas Booker T's commentary.
Wrestle Dream is coming together.
We. Got things?
Later. And so let's just get into it
with some wrestling talk. And talk about wrestling.
Rondo. Double T.
And some Kevin. Oh, man, I wish I, you know, I
had this whole thing ready, likein my brain, like, oh, that'd be

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really funny to do this, this one.
Mitoni. So late, so late.
Mitoni. I got like that.
I don't know, I'm either gettingsick or I have allergies.
Or aids. I got AI might have aids.

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How'd you get that? I mean how?
How does one get AIDS? It's not rocket scientist.
I think it just depends on who you ask.
I'm rocket scientist, got to hate myself.
You're doing good, buddy. You're doing good.
We're like 3 minutes in. Yeah, and you got AIDS and we

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got to talk to rocket scientists.
I am a rocket. It's not rocket scientist.
Jesus. Christ, is it rocket science?
You could be like a geologist. Can you give?
Me like 30 seconds between you saying stuff so I can write it
all down. I well, we can't have dead air.
We can have dead guests, but we can't have dead air.

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Crack the code hand job, Kyle says he forgot to wear the
rubber. Kyle thought that was our secret
buddy. Is is that actually a
preventative measure? What?
A rubber. Does does that?
Stop the aids from getting in I.Don't think I don't know.
I'm not in. I'm not an AIDS doctor.

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Gosh, just just. A just a rock scientist.
Let me ask you this, though. Independent wrestling doctor,
AIDS, Come on, right? He infects his opponents and
then when he turns face, he infects the crowd.
Doctor HIV, Henry Icarus, Vince Lute Icarus.

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I don't know anything. Any.
Icarus. Whatever.
Anything with an I. And he's comes to the ring with
his nurse's aides. I love.
Icarus. Is that Allison Icarus?
Allison Icarus. I don't know, Dick.

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Allison Isabella Dickerson. Yeah, there you go, Dickerson.
How did XPW never do this? Maybe it was just too much
Icarus. You're focusing on the Icarus
and not the high fives there, pal.
High 5. Air 5.

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Look at this. Everybody's in Julio's back, my
man Julio. Nor would he be a rocket
scientist. Apron bump his finishes the
AIDDT. There's nobody I would want to
book a AIDS doctor with an apron.
Bum Kyle. Oh.
My God and any nobody wants to wrestle him in the death match

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the. Last blood match.
Every match he's in is kind of adeath match.
It's. Right, it's.
Fantastic. His father's Magic Johnson.
No, no, no magic, nothing. He beat AIDS.
Yeah, he still. Yeah, that's right, He injected
all the money into. His What about that AEW guy at

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the stadium? There you go.
Yeah. Oh OK, I think of him as a
tennis player, not an AW guy butsure.
I don't think of him. To.
Be honest. Well, that's the association I
have with him. How, how are you guys?

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I don't have AIDS so I'm doing pretty well.
Boy. Boy.
I also hey, how are you? I've also steered clear of that.
So I'm doing, I'm doing pretty good, man.
I'm doing pretty fantastic. Tony, how are you?
Can I just tell you I'm an idiot, all right?
Oh, Tony, what's got you down, bud?

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What in the fuck am I looking at?
Oh. Whoa, Tony.
Tony. Lock it in, man.
Lock it in. Lock.
It in I like his. My bald spot's showing.
Oh. Man, he's.
Very self-conscious. He's, he's beating up on himself
a little bit. He should give him, you know,
maybe compliment himself a little bit.
What the fuck are we doing? What?
Are you? Man, man, come on.

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I miss you buddy. Yeah, what do you want us to do?
Well. Stick it up my ass and call me
Charlie. Gotcha.
All right. Charlie.
Think of fiber. He's he's got to calm down.
Even when he's not here, he's here, yeah.
What do you think is he wants his favorite singer to do?

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What do you who do you think hisfavorite singer is?
I have no doubt I know who. That's exactly where I was
going, Brendo. Fly.
Oh, that's to be really. There it is.
Gwen Stefani, will you pee pee on me?
Really, it's really difficult 'cause he has the most sound
drops, so to find one like his whole page is full.

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When I start pulling more drops he gets he's the first one of us
to have a second page. Jeez, yeah.
He talks a lot. Tony not with us tonight.
He's I took the night off. He's doing, he's vegging out.
Hopefully he's tuned in. And I feel bad because Tony is
not here. And we have we have an amazing,

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amazing Palaka watch. Oh, oh, a palaka watch, you say?
Oh, do we have her buddy? So does he have AIDS?

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No, no, he does not have AIDS. But eight hours ago PJ Polacco
posted 2 very flattering pictures of himself.
I hate to ask. Oh, here we go.
I know a lot of you have certainfeelings about me, but Thursday
night I got into an accident. I've been in Philadelphia at a

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hospital since then. I've been just charged but I
don't have gas money to get homeor tolls.
If there's any way you guys can help, bless me DMI.
Thought he just moved out your way.
I thought he's just became a Jersey man.

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I mean, New Jersey is you can berelatively close to Philadelphia
and still be in New Jersey. OK, OK, I got.
You in fact, at least. It's what, a 90 minute drive
maybe? And the best Philly cheese steak
is in New Jersey. Now I'd like to ask a question.

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Sure he drove out there. Then if he's saying he had he
had gas money, he doesn't got gas money to get home.
Well, I don't. How is he planning on getting
home to begin with then if he didn't have enough gas to get
there and back? Well he said he got in an
accident so maybe his car is fucked up.
He had to. Use either his gas money to fix

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the car or he need he's saying gas money when he's really going
to buy an Uber. Oh my fucking God.
Why is he covered nicotine patches?
I think that's the EEG maybe I don't know, but it does look the
wall be I mean the wall looks suspect though.

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Yeah, it looks like it looks like Christar's condo.
Yeah. It really.
Does doesn't look like hospital,doesn't look like the hospital.
It looks like it could be, you know, a hotel room.
It might be. Like he didn't would is PJ

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Polacco just incredible, the type of person to leave all the
gimmicks on and take these pictures to try and swindle more
people out of money? Yes.
No way. Don't you start being a fucking
polacco apologist. No, I can't.
We got 19 responses in the comments I was going to.

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Say, yeah, we got to, we got to go.
This one looks like a very friendly one.
I know in Massachusetts that's on the East Coast.
If you listen to TOTS, HK knows where that is now.
Yeah, you can go through the tolls and get a bill at the end
of the month and pay it then. Some friendly advice.
OK, this person said, tagging Triple H Shawn Michaels and

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Kevin Nash. Help your buddy out.
Ah here we go. I know this may sound mean but
you've killed any goodwill people had Dude.
Scamming person after persons use friends and family so they
have no recourse after the scam shows intent and people have

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caught on. It's not as if people are shit,
you've just used it all up. Sorry.
Ah somebody actually said they DM D them.
Here's another one. That donation has been made by
the Human Fund. This person said, I wouldn't

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mind sending a few bucks if you admit you had a problem and got
clean first. This person said you're in a
hotel, You got mustard on your face lodging.
And food, Lodging and food covered.
Followed again by nice hotel headboard.
Dude, you're a literal Leech. Then tagged at Grimm's Toy Show.

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He's at it again. Someone asked all Are you all
right? Yeah.
Grimm's toy show? Isn't he like a credible source
too? I'm not familiar with what Grimm
does. Yeah, this person.
Maybe if you want. Maybe if you wasn't apos scumbag
to your fans and just people in general, Karma would never
loses. Good luck.
I'm just reading it the way it'swritten.

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This guy, my guy, that's a hotelheadboard.
Your goodwill for asking for handouts has run out.
Get clean, get help, and try andmake good on all the bad you've
done. The lying sack of shit look
isn't a good one on you. Jesus, here we go.
This one. This one just gets right to it,
you dumb fat fuck. This one.

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This one. Fuck.
Don't have money for gas and tolls?
Then you better better hitchhikehoe then call WWE.
Even have them send you to rehab.
Get yourself together and make amends with those you have
wronged. I've been clean for over 4
years. It's hard work but you can do
this. This guy, he's trying to scam
and work some of these stupid marks for money.

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You know where it's going. He's just not smart enough to do
the wrestler GoFundMe scam. Check DMS This one you hate to
ask. You've been asking in
parentheses begging for money for you with Co workers who have
made millions of dollars throughout their careers.
They must really dislike you if you're not able to scrap
together some gas money from. People, you actually.

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Know we aren't. We aren't stupid.
We can tell this not a hospital.Get a bed, get a job you bum.
Stay off drugs. Embarrassing.
Get a job, Sir. And then the last one, How about
no? You stole so much money from so
many people in Connecticut and the surrounding indie indie

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wrestling area and blamed your camera guy.
Go fuck. Yourself.
Maybe if you had made things right in the last 10 years, more
people would turn up for you. Jag off.
Jeez. Not wrong.
Not a. He's not a oh liked feller.
Duke the dumpster says he seems like one of these characters who

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intentionally gets hurt to get the pill fix.
You think that's the accident was?
I. Watched like a House episode
where that happens and houses onto it.
House knows, Yeah. Yeah.
So that's our Palaka watch. It's been a while since we've
had an actual bit of news. Tony was kind enough to share

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that with me after I had alreadyseen it.
He needs work, man. He needs work.
I I was. I was.
Yeah. You know what?
What is it? Fool me once, Shame on you.
Fool me twice, Shame on me. Fool me thrice 456400.

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Yeah, it's, it's unfortunate, but what are you going to do?
Yeah, you're going to move on with your day.
That's it. Don't pay attention to PJ
Polacco. Just incredible.
Yeah, still waiting for that book and mask, by the way.
I saw I saw him on me and my sonwatch.
Roy rumbled, 96. And he came out and I told my

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son I was like, you like his mask?
He's like, yeah, it's kind of cool.
I was like, does it look like a jock strap?
He could not. He fell off the couch laughing.
Can't Unsee it once you see it. Yep.
Speaking of books, gentlemen. Yep.
I'm I'm about 70 pages in. OK.

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If you're listening to the show,you've never listened to the
show. You're just tuning in.
The Brian Solomon Gorilla Monsoon book dropped on last
Tuesday. It's available on Amazon.
Brian was a guest a couple weeksago, told a couple great gorilla
stories. The book I'm I, like I said, I'm
only 70 pages in. It's it's chef's kiss.

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That will be coming on the planeand vacation with me tomorrow.
Horny book. Yeah, very horny.
Very look forward. To it. 70 pages.
What's that like? 1 Grumper.
That's a couple grumpers. Couple grumpers in gotcha.
Yeah, it's a lot of look a lot. I feel like we may have had this
conversation before, but a lot of my wife thinks like I take

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like 15 minutes. Shits the shit is out of me in
like. 30 seconds. Like when I got a shit but it's
gone right 99% of the time it's not in my underwear. 92%.
The the rest of the time it's just that's that's me time.

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All right. And look, it's hard with the
cats because they got to come inthe door.
The door is closed with the cats.
They got to come in. So that's why we're dumping with
the doors open. Wrong.
Wrong for you, not wrong for me.Wrong for everybody.
No wrong look, do I? Should I put AQR code on my
bathroom door? Would that?
Make a Do not start with the QR code HK.

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Should we ask the the question from that we?
Spoke about. Yeah, I'm going to have to ask.
I, I was hoping Tony would be here, but I'm going to have to
ask. So anybody that's not connected
to the Patreon yet, get on the Patreon.
We got so many awesome things happening on the Patreon this
next episode coming up in this month.
Later this month of the The Rogue Indy Chronicles, we had a

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little discovery. Double T.
All right. And I'd like to, I'd like to
pose a question to you because Ifound something out about our
our buddy Brundle fly here that kind of disturbed me quite a
bit. What?
Yeah. So while we were recording this,
maybe be a little teaser, Brundle Fly sent me a private
message on the side that said heneeded to pause the episode.

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I said, of course, we'll pause the episode, man.
He jumped up and he walked away and I could hear him say, are
you in the shower? I hear his wife say, yeah.
And then I hear them start having a full on conversation,
his wife in the shower and him, I guess outside.
And I was like, OK, he must haveforgot what was going on.

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They had something planned, something important was
happening. Then Brundlefly comes back and
sits down. He goes.
I almost had to reset the clock.Brundlefly will take a shit in
the bathroom that his wife is currently showering in.
That that is, you cannot take a shit.

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See. Next.
To your wife taking a shower. Am I wrong on this double T?
You know what this is? This is a bag of.
Shit right here. You're damn right it is.
You know what I, I have, we havetwo bathrooms in the house.
And if there's a situation whereshe is in the shower, I, I will
not take a shit in front of my wife.
I will go downstairs. Thank you.

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Thank. Now, now and Brenda will get a
chance to defend himself. But I will say this, I bet you
Brundo also watched his wife give birth to their child.
No, don't I? No, I did not.
Oh, OK. No, I hear that's a lot of
there's a lot of crazy stuff that happens during the birth
too, so no. No, had no interest in seeing
any of that. It was C-section anyway, so

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there was nothing to see and nothing I would want to see.
I. Was trying to get brundo now
before. He gets his chance.
I'm going to the chat here because my wife who I've never
taken a shit while she was also in the bathrooms, that's not
acceptable hand job. Kyle says diabolical work there.
Brundle Fly MB says that's insane and for some reason took

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the dumpster. Says perhaps it's part of your
special bond. Now Brundle Fly is taking this
shit with another person in the bathroom with you.
Is that part of a special bond? No, it's part of a boy.
I got to use the bathroom. We don't have a see through
shower curtain. It's not like she's sitting
there watching me. Yeah, 'cause you're worried
about her being what's going on.I don't want her.

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Is it, if you know what, if we had the see through shower
curtain? Not a fucking chance in hell,
but we have a bunch of people inmy house.
So, you know, if somebody's in the shower and somebody else has
to go, it's better than, you know, having to clean a pair of
drawers. Now I'm going to shed a little
bit more light on the situation because Brundle Fly has more
than one bathroom in his house. I do, and I said I believe

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somebody else was in the other bathroom, not at the same time.
I know somebody else was not. It was not.
I know not. That motherfucking door is
locked. It was.
I believe somebody else is in there now.
I think it's worth it out of respect for your wife.
To. Go at least check and if
somebody else is in fact taking a shower in that bathroom, it's

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got to be what, one of your kids?
Fuck them. Kids.
Take a shower. Down there, take a dump down
there. Unacceptable, Brundle.
Fly I am not running down to flights of stairs to get
hopefully run back up and hope Imake it.
Last time I had. One in the stink.
My finger stunk for four days. That is.
I'm interested to get Tony's take on this too.

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This is unacceptable. You know this is unacceptable.
Brundle flight anyways. Man, that's now I'm not as I'm
not outraged. It's like handsome Kevin.
No, no, no, no, no. Thank you, Matt.
No, it's not something now. Different strokes for different
folks. Not something I would ever do.

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I think you. HK would be surprised by Tony's.
I feel like Tony is probably taking a dump in in the
bathroom. Why Julio, Buddy, come on.
You, my friend, are a disappointment.
That's. Like that's like the guy that
forgets his kids birthday like. He just, I would, I would

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rather, I would rather somebody forget my birthday than to take
a shit next to me. Disappointment is that's a
disappointment's a strong word. No, it's not.
That would hurt. I think so.
I feel for, I feel for Brendo. We look.
He made the choice. No, I meant I feel for Brendo,

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like being told he's a disappointment.
Yeah. He's not.
He's not denying the choice. But your kids, I didn't forget
the my kids birthday, you know, took a crap in the bathroom.
Fuck anybody. Yeah, not only did you, not only
did you take a shit right next to your wife, you held a full on
conversation while doing it. Now we don't.

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I don't. I don't know what the layout of
the bathroom is, but there could.
It's far away. Yeah.
Oh yeah, sure, sure. It's far.
Like my like my left nut is far away from my right nut.
That's probably why he's sittingon him, pal.
That's. A good point, good point.
Man and what do? You think you know, and I also
think the talking to her is to add more noise to the shower and

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the dumping. So possibly she doesn't hear.
I mean, if he was going to resetthe clock, it could have been
Salad Shooter, it could have been, it could have been a bad
situation. You would have had to wait.
If I had to reset the clock. That was the end of that
episode. I'm not coming back and sitting
down. I got no Guangs with it Brendo I
got. No, thank you.

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Thank you Double TI. Wouldn't do it myself, but I'm
not, I'm not going to not like this guy up here.
I'm not going to, I'm not going to try and throw you over the
the, the, the waterfall. I mean, I know I'm not going to
convince him his mind is set, but.
He's This is the same guy who ate at his favorite restaurant 4
times in less than a week and twice in one day.

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He's he's very, he's very routine, everything.
And that's fine. There's nothing wrong with that.
There's nothing wrong with beingroutine.
Not shitting next to somebody inthe bathroom should be part of
everyone's routine. Everybody.
Has everybody has different bonds with their significant

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other? Brunda.
Fly, you bond over it, it's just.
I I heard the conversation, there was some bonding, there
was some bonding. Wait, was that, was that going
on? Was that Saturday?
Were we doing that Saturday, Hun?
No, I didn't mean the bonding was that shit.

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In front of you? Yes.
Yes, you did. No.
They make bond in the Brundle Fly household.
Better than bonding my underwearall.
Right, let let, let me just ask you this before the macho
Manitoban guy joins us and we can ask him, We can ask him if
he ever took a shit in front of Miss Elizabeth.
Will you piss in front of your wife?

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What do you mean in front while she's in the shower or?
No, like we have like, God damn it, we have the, the, we have
the, the, the two vanities in the bathroom.
Oh. OK, but while she's brushing her
teeth, I got a piss. I go in there and take a piss.
Nope, I will not do that. Wait a second, I was at the

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line. No, she's not looking at me.
What? The she's.
Inside a shower, behind a curtain, not able to see, not.
Looking at me either. You motherfuckers lines are all.
Sticks out all over the place, She's.
It's like being behind a door, basically.
She's not, I'm not in any view or anything where she looked at

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the wrong part of the mirror andthere's me streaming away.
Heads up Kevin, do you walk around naked in front of your
wife? No, no.
Interesting, do you guys sleep in the same bed?
Yeah, of course we do. OK, Yeah.
Interesting. I mean, she'll walk all up and

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down, all over the house. She's got enough naked for the
both of us. Sorry babe, didn't mean to share
that but. No, you know, like if I got a
piss and she's brushing her teeth and she doesn't stay, like
she'll walk out of the bathroom.I'm sure she's pumped about it
too. She's there's also been times
where I'm taking a piss and she reaches like over my shoulder

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and dumps cold water on me. Which I deserve.
Not. Not that's.
Awesome. You deserve it.
I think every time you talk about Ree, I like her better.
Yes, yes. MB you know that it is.
I've said it numerous time. Bathroom time is supposed to be
private time, yes. It's not like I actively do

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this. What do you?
How many it was, It was an emergency.
It wasn't a passive situation that you did it the other day.
You actively went in there, tooka shit and held conversation
with your. Wife it was an.
Emergency. Also that would be weird if you
just dumped in silence right? Like no.

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Well, no, not. I don't think it's weird
talking, but also I don't think it's weird.
You are Bart so to Matthew Birch's point, bathroom time is
private. Your wife is in the shower.
You've just burst into the bathroom 'cause if you don't use
that toilet, you're going to shit yourself.
It is only cordial for you to have a conversation with her now

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that you've interrupted her bathroom time.
No way, he doesn't have to hear you.
Shitting your. Brains out?
No. Way that's the equivalent of
walking up to the stall next to another guy and be like hey man
how's it going? You having a good night this.
Isn't a stranger, this is his. Wife.
So what if it's what? What if it's a cousin?
No, who's what? I don't know.

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Just happened to you you're out that you're having a dinner and
you walk in and your cousin's taking a leak.
You go take a leak. You're like, oh man, Aunt, my
uncle Marty, he's a he's a riot,isn't he?
No, you don't like it's. No, no, no, no.
No, this isn't like here. Don't don't do the thing.
Don't play the what if game. Brendo's not bursting in when

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his mother-in-law, his mother, his kid are in the shower to
take a shit. No, I think you're wrong.
I think you're wrong because he said it was an emergency and if
it was between going in there and taking a shit and not, he
was going in there and taking a shit.
He wasn't going to reset the clock.
Because his wife was in there. If it was somebody else in that
particular bathroom, I think he would have shit his pants.

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I don't think he would have. The kid is out of the OR the kid
I would have would not have shitmy pants.
So I'd have been like turn around and don't don't get out.
I'll let you know when we're good.
I wouldn't help. Where do you get that?
From He's not here to. Defend himself.
But if anyone would be buck out of the group, it's Tony and his

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kid. They have a really weird, It's
really weird. You play Fortnite with them
once. It's weird.
That's that's, that's fair. That's.
Fair. It's weird, all right?
Text that battle chested monster.
Let's ask the macho Manitobian. Is he there?
Is he? Ready.
Is he ready? Yeah, I'm lurking.
Lurking, lurking, lurking. Oh yeah, I take a dump with Miss

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Elizabeth. Keep ready.
I don't know. He's not there now.
Just. Bring.
In the thing. Let's see what happens.
Let's see what Ginger's going torun it.
Hold on, I mean. He's got a better background
with than Christara and fucking PJ Polacco all.
Right. We'll bring them in.
We'll bring them in. See a shiny Cape?

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He's doing something madness. Oh yeah, brother.
He's getting maybe he's taking apiss, so.
You think he's taking a whiz? Maybe his studio's in his
bathroom. That could be.
Also, he's the macho Manitobian.Perhaps he has multiple
bathrooms throughout his estate.Oh.

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There he is. I think he's muted though.
He is muted. We got no audio.
We can't hear you, macho man. We still can't hear the Macho
man. Oh, no much.
Oh no. Oh no, can't hear.

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Your brother. Let me tell you something dude.
He's got his own sound, he's gothis own sound tech.
He's got oh I need a sound tech.You do need a sound tech.
You think so? Yeah, you should get one.
He's got all the he's got the mannerisms down though.
No, she's gonna sound tech and then take a shit when he's in
the shower with. You no.

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Come on now, he. Said.
We don't know what's going on. I don't know.
There's something muted. There's something muted on the
keyboard. Dude, brother, do you want us to
take you down and then come backin?
Macho Man. Take him down, yeah.
This is already a better interview than some of the

(32:26):
previous ones. Oh, Brando, throwing shade at
the other guest. I like, like, I like how he's
berating a sound guy. I do the same thing.
I, we'll, we'll, we'll take him down.
You you get this figured out, Macho Manitobian.

(32:47):
Yeah, we'll figure it out. We'll figure out, figure it out
in there. Yeah.
Let me go to Let me go to the private chat.
You go to private chat here. Is he frozen?
Do you? Leave it.
Looks like it, yeah. Oh, man, all right, there's
nothing to put in the chat then.Times is tough for the
Manitobian. Guess so.

(33:12):
The guy from Canada is frozen. Big surprise.
Oh man, you think they got good,good, nice cold weather up there
right now? Probably.
Not you can ask him when he joins us.
Oh, he's he's, he's frozen man all.
Right. Well, let's, let's do this.
Let's do this. What?
Do you want to do? Want to kick him out?
All right, then he can reconnect.

(33:34):
I got you reconnect. Reconnect, he comes back in,
it'll be fine. It is 50° in Canada right now.
In Winnipeg right now. I assume that's close to where
he is. Winnipeg is close to where I am.
Oh yeah, that's true. How close?
Winnipeg's only about maybe six hours, something like that.

(33:55):
Yeah, maybe a little bit more. I've thought about taking a day
trip to Winnipeg. Really.
Yeah. Didn't you mention that and
you're Duke and Rogue the one time I believe.
Yeah, I wanted to take Duke up there, but they ain't gonna let
him in. Oopsie, dupes.

(34:16):
Oopsie, dookie. Oopsie, dookie.
Well, look, we got a there's youknow, the Macho Manitobi and
he'll be joining us shortly. We're going to get that audio
situation figured out. We got a there's a ton of
wrestling to talk about. This is a huge, huge weekend
going like from Saturday to like, I don't fucking know.
Next week we got Crown Jewel, Perth, we got Bound for Glory we

(34:39):
got. Yeah, I forgot about Bomb for
Glory. Are we picking that or we stop?
You were picking that it's a pay-per-view?
Fuck. That's right.
When, since when we when did? We start doing TNA again.
We. Don't they only do like 4?
No, we do remember we all shit the bed at the last TNA.
I don't remember that. I remember you shitting this

(35:00):
while your wife is in the shower.
Oh come on, of course you do. I shit the literal bed too last
time. That's why I'm.
Oh, that's. Right.
Yeah, you were sick. You were under the weather.
That was very. Thick.
Yeah. I hope I'm not getting sick man.
You should get some Pepto Bismolrun to fly.
I have some, it reminds me I wassupposed to buy some yesterday.

(35:21):
You. Have it on the rocks or.
On the rocks. I don't know what that is.
It's I think you're mixing up Alka Seltzer all.
Right. Are we good much we going to try
this? Well, he's still, he's still got
his, his, his sound guy still. Yeah, they're still they're,
they're still working on it, still working, working, working.

(35:42):
So is just for is bound for glory?
Is that Saturday or Sunday? Sunday.
Sunday, OK. Yeah.
Bound for glory Sunday night. Crown jewel Saturday morning.
Yeah. Picks in Friday night.
What? Yeah, it's, it's in Perth.
What time does it start? Like a 830.

(36:04):
Probably Oh, it's going to be one of these things I can't
watch again all. Right, I think the match is
ready. You think so?
We're going to try. We're going to try.
Hold on, let me. Chat, Yeah, chat, chat.
Chat with him. Chat him up.
Brenda Fly. Am I going to be able to watch
this fucking show you think? Not if you didn't pay the $11.00

(36:25):
upgrade. Bro yeah, did Molly fix the QR
code for you? I don't.
I don't think she's fixed the QRcode for me yet.
Why don't you just upgrade it man?
I try like how do I do that though?
That's the situation. If they don't tell me, here's
how you upgrade. You ask Molly.
No, I can't ask Molly because Molly already said no.
Did you not listen to TOTS? Oh no, I didn't get the tots yet

(36:49):
this week. Molly said no.
I get to upgrade. So do it bro.
Go on your Hulu. Dot go on hulu.com, login, go to
your subscriptions and add ESPN Unlimited or whatever the fuck.
It's I have to do it through. Hulu.

(37:09):
Hulu. Disney, I don't know.
I my whole thing is through Hulu.
I have the Hulu, Disney Plus ESPN bundle.
I like that OK. All right, I think he's ready.
You think he'll all right? Well, he says, let's try it.
All right, well, if we're going to try it, we can try bring him
in. Oh, he's.
There I think it's working. Bring him in.

(37:30):
Bring him in. Oh yeah?
Did you hear that? Yeah, Mr. Flick.
All right, I hear you. We got all cans of technical
difficulty here in the garage. Yeah.
My main man, my best friend, I'mabout to pop him in the noggin.
I understand a little conflict, a little bit of contempt, you

(37:54):
know, familiarity. But he's doing his best and I'm
going to keep. Isn't that cool?
Even though I'm not sure. Man gets hit a little caller.
Yeah. Nice to meet you.
That must be Brundle right there.
Yeah. How you doing, Brundle?
What's up, brother? Yeah.
Dig it back. Who's that doing?

(38:16):
That, that's the, that's handsome, Kevin.
Handsome cat. I don't care about the damn
echo. I can hear them.
They can hear me, right? All right.
Your damn trick gets away from me.
Yeah. I'd like to say for a moment, my
good friend Corey Draper. There's feeling a little
stressed because the technical. So I want them to know that we

(38:40):
love him and it's not his fault.Don't worry about it, brother.
It's OK. He's got a lot of, you know, a
lot of things going on. So we're just going to roll like
this. This is cool.
Pacific. Were you Wizards?
Yes, Sir. Going to.
Have the manner of the mega powers exploding there.
Oh yeah, I'm. I saw the lust in his ass from a

(39:02):
minute. As a matter of fact, I chased
them out of the garage. Come back, Corey, I'm looking
without you. Come back.
Oh, I just lost my best friend Blam right there.
Yeah, I got 2 managers. All right, so that's Brundo and
then handsome. What?
He's the serpent of pleasure. The serpent of pleasure.

(39:25):
Pleasure. OK, SP And who's over here?
It's like the Brady Bunch. Who's over there?
Yeah, let's. Stop double T.
Double T? Yeah.
Five time. Five time.
I heard you guys. You guys don't appreciate the
Booker T on the microphone. Damn.
Man, yeah. Talking about this and then how

(39:47):
you doing, Corey? You're feeling all right.
All right. We got smiles from Corey.
That's what I got to do. OK, So we were trying the
wireless, we were trying the headphones.
We tried everything but the kitchen sink, and it doesn't
work out here. Now we're going to try cooling
off. Yeah, I'm going to hide under
the car here. My toolman I told was really a

(40:11):
bust out here. Dig it.
Now let me ask Macho Manitobin, I got a question for you.
I'm ready. You got questions, I got
answers. All right, Take it.
Fire away all. Right, Brundo, He may have had a
little bathroom emergency the other day, took a dump while his
wife was in the shower. Would the macho man have ever

(40:31):
done that to Miss Elizabeth? Nobody takes a dump in front of
Miss Elizabeth. Not even Elizabeth takes a dump
in Miss front of Elizabeth get their head dumped.
OK, Sage, he didn't learn his lesson.
Open farting, pissing in front of Miss Elizabeth.

(40:52):
I don't even want to use that language because you know, the
macho Manitoban's parental guidance.
Yeah. I don't use those head bombs.
I don't use The Dirty words. Double T and some pleasure in
Brundle. I'm going to give me a bar of
soap. I'm going to wash your mouth up
right there, right there, right there, here.

(41:15):
When you got to go, you got to go.
Well, let's understand that MissElizabeth is all class.
Special shout out to my manager,Miss Elizabeth Sarasota.
I will admit, she burps in frontof me.
I'll give you that much. All right, now let's keep it
classy. When now?

(41:36):
Oh boy, this might be a touchy question.
Is there a world where you go NWO macho and you get a gorgeous
George? You guys get to understand that
a woman half your age is 3 timesthe trouble right there.
Yeah, it's not worth it. Hey, guys, you look for some

(42:00):
Gray hairs, look for a couple ofwrinkles around the tilling the
temples, because the macho Manitobans had his fair share of
gorgeous gorges. And it's always trouble,
especially the ones who party like it's 1999.
I don't know what that means. But anyway, I'm trying to keep

(42:22):
the age appropriate, if you understand what I mean.
Yeah, I think I'm the costumes. I would like to someday get
myself a if the look is right, Imight go for a cowboy hat.
But that's not the look I'm going for.
I'm going for world heavyweight championship right there.

(42:46):
Yeah, that's what I'm talking about. 1988 Forever, brother.
Weren't you just holding the Intercontinental title?
Them both. Where's the belt I'm talking
about? Yeah, I'm #1 thank you.

(43:06):
All right, all. Right, ready.
Clearly I got all the gold, I got all the Damons, I got
everything better. All right, but you got one of
these, brother. Oh.
Wow, I stand upstaged. Nice one.

(43:31):
Double T. That is really awesome.
That was a really cool figurine.Buster Point this big.
All right. I don't have that.
What I've got? This one.
And don't forget, not my favorite macho king, but

(43:58):
otherwise king. That was not my favorite era.
However, in retrospect, I do have to say now sensational
Sherry. I didn't much like her at the
time, but I have to give her respect because she was a former
heavy World Heavyweight Championin the AWA and the WWF.

(44:22):
And let me tell you something about Sherry Martel.
The day she decided to announce she wanted to be a professional
wrestler, the big redneck promoter stood up, walked up to
her and slapped her in the face.And she said to him.

(44:43):
Is that? All.
You got she was tough as nails. She knocked that Hulk Hogan.
I heard him say it on Joe Rogan.She hit Hacksaw Duggan so hard
the Macho Man freaked out and said it wasn't me.
She hit ya, Sherry Martel. She was now.

(45:04):
In retrospect, hats off to her. Gone too soon, like all of them,
unfortunately. No shit.
Who's on the soundboard? I heard that.
Or was that live the the the pleasure pleasure.

(45:26):
Yeah, the hands. For pleasure.
Yeah. So why?
Yeah, that's right. I do appreciate though, that
Macho Man had the resurgence, and I got to say that he did
look pretty cool in the NWOI wasn't a fan of the cowboy hat,
but even that is, you know, everything.

(45:49):
Macho was alright with me, Yeah.The now Macho Manitobin.
What is your relation with the Legendary Wrestling Obsession
Podcast? Yeah, it's a podcast that
doesn't quite help the credibility of the Shannon
Wizard, but we're working on it.Yeah, We're stretching out our

(46:09):
networks. We're stretching everybody that
steps into the ring. We've been going for two years,
and we started on the anniversary of Saturday night's
main event. We decided to relive our youth.
I don't love you right there on the Internet.

(46:29):
Saturday night's main event was absolutely transformational in
my life and the life of my Co host, Mr. Corey Draper, who I
spent the 1st 5 minutes of the podcast slapping around.
And he's the brain, she's driving the wheel.
Yeah, he's the captain of the ship.

(46:51):
He chooses the plan. And what we do is we take the
ritual wrestling and we go blow by blow.
We choose a couple of matches every week and we describe it
right from the collar and elbowsto the Shannon Wizards, except
for we don't really have a lot of that move.
I don't think it's been inventedyet.
And we go everywhere we can. We've covered Japan, new Little

(47:18):
new Japan, a little bit of all Japan, a little bit of Mid
Japan. Ma'am, we got ourselves UW F Mid
South. We've been to Florida.
Of course, I got to tell you something right now we are died
in the AWA. My man Corey Draper, he was

(47:39):
watching Mad Dog the show, and he was still in diapers.
Not Mad Dog, my Co host. Yeah, as a matter of fact, he'll
be in diapers in a couple decades.
Right back there watching Mad Dog again.
Yeah. So we're AWA through and
through. Rick Martel's man, world
heavyweight champion. And I got a glimpse of Hulk

(48:00):
Hogan on the television. Rocky two.
Hand in person. I met the man.
Rocky three. Yeah.
OK. Finally, Corey scores a point.
Yeah. Corey.
Redemption. Redemption for the manager.

(48:21):
Yeah. Thanks, Dave.
All right, now he's feeling good.
So we love the AW way I got to see gentlemen, if you don't mind
if this we're going. I felt the Road Warrior pop in
person. My brother was a fan of heavy
metal, Iron Maiden, Black Sabbath, Jews, Priest Monthly

(48:45):
Crew, and so I got exposed to the musical Ladies even though I
was only 12 years old. And when Iron Man played a moon,
a big arena, whole place exploded, including me.
They were wrestling the FabulousOnes and I was a mark for them

(49:07):
too. It blew my little mind to see
the Road Warriors and the Fabulous Ones crash at the
Winnipeg Arena right there. And I'm trying to blow your
minds right now. Dig it.
I I got to ask then you mentioned minds getting blown
and. Back to The Dirty questions, are
we but you're? Talking awa, I mean, you did.

(49:34):
Did Buck Zoomhoff ever come across you?
Whoa. Man, you got the shot right
there. No response required.
I was watching Rock'n'roll book zoom on zoom off on the
television and nowadays the kindof guy that you wouldn't stand

(49:56):
behind or in front of and rock'n'roll buck zoom.
But he did have the ghetto blaster in the eldest suit.
He was a bit like Honky Tonk Man, if you will, because of
that Rock'n'roll gimmick. And I remember Bobby Heenan
smashed his huge ghetto blaster,crushed it, stomped him, and

(50:18):
then he came on the television with a teeny tiny little
transistor radio, all apologetic.
He said. Mr. Zumoff, I'd like to, I'd
like to apologize and I. I got you a new radio.
You know the serpent of pleasureis is a Minnesota guy.
Rick Rude, Road warrior. He's buried dorsal.

(50:41):
I didn't understand at 1 Little club.
My, my, some point. All the bouncers went on to be
famous wrestlers. Yeah, Minnesota.
And I happen to be a fan there, Mr. Pleasure.
Turns out Corey and I went down to Minnesota more than once.

(51:01):
We came down there to see Dinosaur Junior and Corey got
pulled over, got a speeding ticket.
Yeah, we weren't even opening upthe drink.
We didn't have tickets. And we found the Winnipegger at
the liquor store. We were trying to buy booze.
I mean, he was older than us, sowe bought our booze.

(51:21):
The drinking age is lower here in Canada.
And then we didn't have tickets to the show, but we were in line
and we found a little spot wherethey were selling the last 100
tickets. And so we got in and I look,
that was First Ave. Mr. Pleasure and I went back
there about a year ago with my mom and we had a great time in

(51:46):
Minneapolis, the Twin Cities there.
And I'm a big fan. It's the closest place to
Winnipeg that's really worth. Driving to I mean 6.
Hours. If you're going to go anywhere
in six hours, I'd say go to Minneapolis from Winnipeg.
Otherwise, you're only going to get to like Regina.
Not now. Now I've thought about taking a

(52:07):
day trip up there to Winnipeg. If I were to do that, Macho
Manitoba and what, what, what, what can I expect?
You can expect drop from the pot, bro.
Man, I'm going to put you on theside and walk.
Man. I'm going to now tell you what
we would be delighted to show you around with a pig here.

(52:28):
It would be our pleasure. The legendary Wrestling
Obsession podcast. We'd even have you on our show.
If you do us the honor of appearing, we'd make a special
accommodation right in this verygarage.
High tech right here. You saw the word technical
geniuses already. Corey's in charge.

(52:51):
He's the man. I'm the talent.
Right there, brothers. Yeah, as a matter of fact, I
want to talk to you guys about ashow that we're promoting you
can buy on the Internet, a play that I wrote and performed this
summer, the Winnipeg Fringe Festival.

(53:11):
Here's the poster. Oh, yeah, there's the full.
I'm like the fabulous ones I'm selling gimmicks at, you know
what? Popcorn Time right there.
Yeah. All right.
Nobody's shelling out money. Yet for any.
Pictures of me. What?
We have a thing called the Winnipeg Fringe Festival, and
Once Upon a time, Mr. Pleasure, I visited Minneapolis for their

(53:34):
Fringe Festival. You ever heard of you had?
He's nodding. All right.
So I was there way back in the day with an improv troupe, and
we stayed in a place affectionately known as the
Crack Stacks. That ring a bell, Placers that
where you're living? Are you shacked up with the

(53:54):
crack stacks? I'm a little I'm a little bit
closer to you than I am the crack stacks.
All right, you want to fill everybody in and want.
Toot toot. All right, maybe we'll leave
that one alone, Mini. I already did.
I was pretty nice to Minneapolis.
Let's just leave it there. I'm going to quit while I had my
head. He knows what I'm talking about.

(54:15):
Minneapolis. It's a historical nickname for
the Riverside Plaza Large apartment complex with
distinctive colorful panels in Minnesota.
Yeah, we didn't have the Internet back in 1988.
You got me there. Double T.
After that, it's not. It doesn't really get any more
positive than that. We'll just leave it.

(54:35):
At. That there's there's a lot of ID
channel shows about those crack stacks.
Yeah, well, I survived the crackstacks.
Yeah. And also, I would like to say,
because we're pretty, my apologies to the the denizens of

(54:56):
Minneapolis if I've offended anybody.
I didn't mean it. That macho Manitoban is a
unifier. Yeah, I'm bringing people
together. I don't care what you look like,
what you do. I want everybody to get along
except you. 3 bam, boom. I mean that.
Seems a bit hypocritical. You and the Hulkster don't get

(55:18):
along. Hulkster.
Hulk Hogan. Yeah.
Let me tell you something. I met him in real life and I'll
tell you about it. All right?
I was about to tell them. If you want to see that play of
the poster, it's on Patreon and it only cost, I think, 5 bucks.
Well, hold it one more time. Now, in this play, I talk about

(55:42):
meeting Hulk Hogan in real life.And I'll tell you guys that Once
Upon a time, there was a preliminary wrestler named Agent
Orange. And Agent Orange would put a
pouch of orange jello powder in his tights.
And then when the referee was looking, he would blame the

(56:03):
opponent with the orange powder.Yeah.
So one night when he was pouringwith Hulk Hogan and Sheer in the
locker room when Hogan was looking, Warren put the orange
powder in Hogans boots. Years later I met the Hulkster
and he confirmed he had sax. His.

(56:27):
Orange as a Pumpkin Time and Halloween.
And if you want the full length version of the story I Want me
Hulk Hogan, then go to patreonlegendarywrestlingobsession.com.
You can either follow us there, become a member and watch it
that way or a one time purchase.The show is called Randy and

(56:50):
Elizabeth, A Savage Love Story. And let me tell you something.
It was a savage love story. It'll break your heart.
Yeah. And I was on the cover of the
paper right there. There's a Winnipeg Free Press
and the Macho Manaco. Been making a splash.

(57:11):
Oh, yeah. Nice.
And then it got even better thanthat.
I got myself. I got myself a review on the
paper and it went pretty well. So.
Can you find that one, Corey? You're like you're Lanny

(57:32):
poffoing yourself right now. Yeah, that's right.
I'm trying to make a living and everybody's got, you know,
30,000 followers like you guys. Yeah, I went to.
One at open dot com and drop a damn I'll come to your birthday
party, your wedding social and oh, Lanny puffle right there for

(57:54):
you. You guys are the another
Canadian. There's me beside the what's
it's the those other strainers trailer park boys.
Yeah. Oh, trailer park boys.
Alright, yeah, alright. Now I'm up with the shameless

(58:14):
promos. I appreciate that.
That was a disgraceful display of soap promotion from a guy
who's trying to make a book. Thanks, guys.
I appreciate that. I thought that was good.
All right. Yeah.
You did get the Lenny Poffel reference though, right?
Well, I don't think I did. Not the way you guys were
laughing. I think there's something I
don't know, you never heard. I don't know about leaping

(58:36):
Lenny. You don't know that the.
Thing your brother can apparently do to himself.
Was it he could something to do with his private parts?
He could. Oh, God, yeah.
Oh, you didn't have to pay a lotof money for that one.
Oh my God, I got my coach here in the corner do that.

(58:58):
If. You do that?
Who said? That was that you double team.
Hey, it's pleasure. You better bring your tag team
partner. Yeah, come and push them into a
pretzel and dip them in some mustard right there.
He's. Not he's.
Not yeah, I've heard it. I've heard it.
I'll tell you going out to Minnesota in a couple weeks for

(59:19):
the the Handsome of Pleasure's birthday and I want him to take
me to the old folks home where Vernon Gonye killed that guy.
Just a point of interest. Yeah.
Yeah, that's slow. You know we're talking about.
In the area, so let's go. I'm not going to crack stack
either. No, I don't recommend it.

(59:39):
No, but they have a nice tour. Oh yeah, that's right.
The Vern Ganya, the master of the finger rake.
You know. Front side, backside.
He was a cheater. That's.
Kind of a useless move unless you don't cut your fingernails.
Well, I believe that's how we won all those state
championships with the finger. You know, it wasn't illegal back

(01:00:03):
when Vern was wrestling the amateur circuit.
Yeah. Macho Manitobian.
Bob Backlund. Vern Ganya.
Well, let's see. Now, of course, I have to assume
both men are in their prime. Or, you know, is this a match in
1980? In which case you got to go.

(01:00:25):
Bob Backlund. Both men in their prime, I might
say. Vern Gun.
Yeah, I think he minded more. What's that?
It's been nice having you on here.
Well, let me tell you something about Bob Blackland.
Steve Kern was considered in thesame role.

(01:00:47):
They were going to take him up from Florida because his father
was a prisoner of war. Instead, Steve Kern became a
fabulous one. And Bob Backlund was, you know,
he wasn't flashy, but he was a big boy and he could tie you up.
Even the even the 300 pounders bought Backlund.

(01:01:09):
He could lock him up and he could stretch you out.
There's no doubt about his ability to wrestle legitimately
by Backlund and Bourne Ghania. I don't know if either of them
won any medals, but lots of championships, I suppose.
Now I know where your allegiancelies.
You're a back one and you don't appreciate.
Well, I'm not sure that I appreciate Bourne Ghania, except

(01:01:30):
for we did enjoy watching the AWA until it folded, which is
kind of the focus of the legendary wrestling exception
test. We're looking right at the time
where all the territories shut down and the WWF took over.
Now let me ask you this. You mentioned the AWA folding.

(01:01:53):
Any coincidence they folded whenthey made Larry Zabisco the
world champion? You son of a bitch.
There is Obisco, Huh. There's a guy mentored by Bruno
Sammartino. And the way Sammartino tells it,
he made him go to college beforehe trained them, and Zabisco

(01:02:16):
Wynn got himself four years under his belt.
And then he came back to Brungania and said, I kept my
word. No, not Brungania, sorry.
Correction. Bruno Sammartino is men poor and
Sam Martino tipped his word. Neat, trains Abisco.
And then one of the hottest heelturns of all time was where is

(01:02:39):
Abisco turning on Sam Martino? And that was maybe a bigger
draw, if not as big as Andre Hogan and Shea Stadium.
My fact checker. Yeah, I'm on track.
Yeah, that's what I think happened.
And I never really particularly appreciated Sabisco when I

(01:03:00):
watched him in the AWA, but that's because I was a mark.
Now I think Sabisco. Well, I don't know.
Yeah, I like them. Yeah.
Go ahead. Cut me off.
I dare you. I love them.
I now appreciate I'm way more. Everybody that got on my nerves
back in the day. I appreciate them a lot more
now. For example, I never watched

(01:03:21):
Buzz Sawyer until this journey, the legendary wrestling
Obsession. But now I see that Buzz Sawyer
can take bumps as well as anybody I've seen like Buddy
Roberts. He has his own genius and I
never saw him wrestle until two years within the last two years,
you know, researching for the legendary wrestling obsession.

(01:03:47):
Is there is there anybody that along your way here for the
legendary wrestling obsession? I outside of obviously you
mentioned Buzz Sawyer, but outside of Buzz Sawyer, I mean,
is there, I mean even enhancement talent that is
really kind of jumped off the screen to you?
Yeah, I'm talking about the Dukeof Thorchester, Pete Doherty.
Yeah. He.

(01:04:09):
Was fantastic. And he wasn't.
Would that be a Philly, I think,or Boston?
Boston. Yeah.
So he did some commentary. In the commentary he sounds like
Gilbert Godfrey, but in the rainhe was amazing.
I've seen very few entertainers as committed, excluding myself a

(01:04:31):
bit. You got to stick with the bit,
man. Yeah.
And Pete Doherty was on the 1st Saturday Night's Main event and
I said to Quarry, who's this joker now?
He's one of my favorite wrestlers.
That's fantastic. He even got, he got, he got a
win over. They gave him a win over over.

(01:04:53):
Poffo, I thought he got one. Wasn't.
It Bundy that he scored a victim.
A count out is a win. I don't want to hear any more
about Poffo. Let's off women who must do them
again. All right, all right.
If any of you mentioned Papalo again, I'm going to beat up
Corey, so he's on your conscience.

(01:05:15):
If you just joining us, the Macho Tobian is with us.
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(01:05:39):
slash at legendary wrestling obsession.
You guys just dropped an episodeabout two weeks ago.
Rock and Wrestling some interviews and then the first
round matches in the battle royal of WrestleMania 4 and it
seemed like in the podcast it'd been a minute since you had sat

(01:05:59):
down and watched this WrestleMania.
What are some of your favorite moments from this WrestleMania
4? Well, we're very really into
what? But of course, retroactively, I
got to say that seeing Elizabethon Randy Savage's Savage's
shoulder was a highlight. And if you didn't have that,

(01:06:21):
then you wouldn't have the full completion of the story at
WrestleMania 7. So Elizabeth perched on the
shoulder of the world champion. I got to change belts here.
Yeah, that moment at WrestleMania 4, Live forever,
because my favorite moment is WrestleMania 7, Yeah, when Randy

(01:06:46):
and Elizabeth get back together.But WrestleMania 4, what?
I do like to watch that now. I know the history of DBIC and
Jim Buggin When I see them wrestle up at WrestleMania 4.
I understand these guys have traded championships and work

(01:07:06):
together for a long time in the Mid South.
And when I see WrestleMania 4 now I understand the lineage of
Don Morocco, Billy, Superstar Graham.
I'm a little more interested nowin Butch Reed because he was
very shortly lived in the WWF, but we're only in the first

(01:07:29):
hour, so I probably could answerthat question a little better
once we get in the round. 2-3 inthe finals, yeah.
Hey, let me ask you, if you saw Lex Luger, would you push him
out of his wheelchair because ofwhat he did to Elizabeth,
allegedly? Well, you know, Lexie, and not
everybody can stay +100% of the time, OK?

(01:07:53):
And Lexie's working on it on hisown.
We've had our ups and downs, buthe's trying to work through it.
And you know what? I've made my peace with just
about everybody. And I'm not exactly the kind of
guy to push somebody out of his wheelchair.
Maybe Corey, you know? But yeah.
Would you tap? Man is nuts.

(01:08:14):
Just walk right by real quick. Yeah, ask him what it seems.
To me that yeah, looks like the universe took care of Lex Luger.
If you want to be, you know, a revenge minded person, you could
say that. I mean, looks to me like he
suffered quite a bit. And I got to say this.

(01:08:34):
I believe in the power of redemption and forgiveness and
that's why WrestleMania 7 when Elizabeth forgives Randy, Why?
What's he done to deserve it? It doesn't matter.
It doesn't matter. She forgives him because she
loves him. I believe in redemption.
It's the most powerful thing in the universe besides Macho

(01:08:57):
Madness. Yeah, dig it.
And I am the cream of the crop. Available for birthday parties.
Do not request the Lanny winningsocials.
Well, if the chicks are hot enough, I'll give it a try.
Yeah, bring it on. I mean, look.

(01:09:20):
I bet you the reviews that you get from the Lanny would be.
Where are you saying Wizards? You guys are cheeky.
Just like a Rock'n'roll Express prank.
Let me tell you those guys, Yeah, Loyal Check.
You guys have heard of that one at?
Least it's not a Jimmy Del Rey prank.

(01:09:41):
Whoa. Hey, Al.
The heavenly bodies. Was he also a fabulous one ever?
No. OK.
Heavenly Bodies. Jimmy Del Rey.
OK, lean on me. I don't know that one.
He worked with Stan Lane though,right?
He was Jimmy Graffiti in WCW too.
Jimmy Graffiti Graffiti's illegal.

(01:10:01):
Just sing. The name.
Hey, one more thing about Minneapolis.
Last time I was there, they still hadn't legalized.
You could buy chocolate bars anddrinks, but you couldn't buy.
I don't know what you're vaping up there, Snake man, but maybe

(01:10:21):
Where's everybody else located? Brundle, Where are you?
Where are you situated? I'm right in New Jersey.
New Jersey, Atlantic City, WrestleMania 4.
Yeah. 5. And five.
And five, you're right about that.
Yeah. Who talk about WrestleMania
fire. That's set your soft limits.

(01:10:43):
Be dead right there, man. Boom, man.
Upside down, dude. There you go.
Yeah, I saw that. Thanks.
Boom, man. It was upside down, Corey.
That's another beating you're getting.
Wait, we can't talk about 3, We can't talk about 5:00.
But 7's? OK, Even in defeat you find
love. Never mind talking about

(01:11:05):
WrestleMania 3, the greatest match of all time and Randy
Savage. He knew when the Poodle's Eagle
was sad for the sake of the show, Randy allegedly whispered
to Ricky the Dragon as the referee counted 123.
We got him Dragon, even in defeat, Macho Man's greatest

(01:11:31):
matches, when he laid his shoulder to the mat and he put
somebody over here because MachoMan understood the business.
Yeah, No, I. Agree, he definitely he he did.
I had. A.
Where are you at? T Double T where are you?
Where do you live? We're in, I'm in Jersey too, me

(01:11:52):
and Brendo and then Tony, who's not here.
These are his wonderful drops. It's a hand job kind of night,
isn't it? We're all, we're all New Jersey
guys. We we brought Minnesota in
because I like his style. He does a nice retro wrestling
podcast too. The year of Duke and Rogue.
I know Duke is Duke is in the chat.
So. And now we're the Wizards.

(01:12:14):
Or we've been the Wizard. Check that out.
Oh, yeah. Yeah.
And I'm really grateful for you guys bringing us on.
Yeah, it's been a good chance for us to expand our parameters.
Yeah. Expanding the horizons.
That's right. Legendary wrestling.

(01:12:35):
One more thing. I do have a website,
machomanitoban.com. And what I'm hoping to do is
come to a Comic Con near you. I'm trying to travel the world
with my show. It's a 45 minute one man show.
I'm going to cross Canada with it in 2026.
I'm going to go from the East Coast to the West Coast of

(01:12:57):
Canada here. And maybe I'll even consider
returning to Minneapolis for your friends, Mr. Pleasure.
But if I do, we're going to havea couple beers.
You hear me? Yeah.
Absolutely Sign sign me up. I hope it happens.
Dig it. Is there?
Is there any mention of Stephanie McMahon in the show by

(01:13:20):
any chance? Hey, you guys are really
interested in the adventures of Randy Savage's lower perks.
Yeah, I don't know much about that.
I mean, Stephanie McMahon seems like she.
I don't know. Do you think she's been good as
ACEO? Yeah.
Yeah. OK, she can.

(01:13:42):
I wouldn't know. She.
Can tell me what to do? Allegedly may have been
channelling his inner Buck with his relationship with Stephanie.
Oh my goodness. Well, she survived it, didn't
she? She's a lady.
If that's the case, then my goodness, there's not much you
can say that all. Right Matcha man, we got a

(01:14:05):
couple questions we ask all of our guests.
Fire away, yeah. Does the macho man put deodorant
on when he gets out of the shower?
Well, it's kind of slippery. I mean, don't you?
You need to get a little bit of traction going.
If it's too soon, then I think it could be called a
misapplication. So I got to wait, I think a

(01:14:28):
couple of minutes. And it's also very important to
get those macho pheromones a chance to flow.
Yeah. I don't want the ladies to miss
out on the masculinity of macho Manitoba's madness.
Yeah, but you can't. You got Liz, though.
You can't. What are you doing?

(01:14:49):
Well, yeah, but I got to keep her around, you understand?
Yeah, those magnetic, macho, magnificent multitudes all.
Right Sock. In the house, you wear socks in
the house. Hands on the season in winter,
pretty much for sure. We get a winter up here that'll

(01:15:10):
make me Minneapolis look like Miami.
Yeah, actually, I got to say your winters are pretty
hardcore. But it's.
Even worse up here. So socks in the winter.
No socks in our summer, which isabout 2 1/2 weeks.

(01:15:33):
No, macho man, it's open. Have you ever done your laundry
and say like a porta John? Well, a porta John, no, I have
not resorted to such desperate measures.
But I will say that I'm now somewhat accustomed to when I do

(01:15:56):
my 45 minute show. I work up a sweat, yeah.
And after the show, people will come up to me and take
photographs. And occasionally somebody would
put their hand on my shoulder and go, EW, well, I woke up a
swift, when I do the show, 45 minutes of leaving my arms

(01:16:18):
around, I'm doing a macho impression.
And So what was the question? Porter, John.
Porter John. Man, you guys got 30 minds that.
Stuff's all blue. It's disgusting.

(01:16:38):
Because Double T likes to do hislaundry in the Portage.
Now, will you now, macho man? I did.
Yeah. Yeah, You you got class.
Right. Oh yeah.
Very classy, yeah. Class right So.
Especially in front of Miss Elizabeth.
It's all class. Class Class.
I'm with you, a little bit of ass but not much.

(01:17:01):
I've seen her put her in Uranus.Yeah, we got to put it all in
cold language there. I've seen her take her skirt
off. There's not much ass there, but
I will. I will say that you, you close
the door when you're taking a shit in the bathroom, right?
You'll you'll close the door behind you when you take a shit
because there is a member of thepanel here that just takes the

(01:17:22):
shit, leaves doors wide open. Absolutely.
Yeah. close the door, lock the door, turn on the tap and, you
know, dig into the latest episode of What?
What is Who's Reading What on the crapper now.
Yeah. Gorilla Monsoon.
Oh yeah, we're big fans of the There it is.

(01:17:46):
We love the gorilla around here,that's for sure.
Even the the more he screws up and Bobby has to cover them, the
better we like it. And of course, macho.
Last but not least, when was thelast time you shit your pants?
Let me check my watch. I have a rule.

(01:18:09):
Any soiled shorts go in the bin.No exception.
So. There we go.
You do not wash. You do not wash.
What did you wash some Portage on does that.
I didn't wash my underwear in a Portage on you.
Fuck not. I cleaned them out, cleaned out.
Clean them. Out we got some, you know, some

(01:18:32):
open wounds here Yeah, well, youdon't want to get any of that
porty potty in the open wound that's real bad news and.
The water that comes out of the faucet is not blue, OK?
It's fucking not drinking water,but it's water.
I work in a fancy town, OK? That actually makes it so

(01:18:53):
happily acceptable. If the water's not blue, I might
consider washing something. And I didn't.
Want. It's not the clean the shark out
of my underwear so I could go back to work.
The water's. Not I think that's acceptable so
we could go back to work. Handling food much?
I wash my fucking. Hand.
I'm just a family in a position I'd rather not be in.

(01:19:20):
Well, you know, what can recommend is just try to eat,
you know, unexciting food. Put down on the sharks.
Keep it blam. Yeah, you.
You know you're getting older. It's not easy.
They sneak up. It's not easy.
I'm getting older. Yeah, I am.
But unlike the macho man, I'm not dying.

(01:19:41):
The greedy. I'm keeping it real so far.
I like that. But someday I'll start dying and
living. I'll.
Leave you with this macho Did you know today is Bruno
Sammartino's 90th birthday? I didn't know that.
Did you know that Bruno Sammartino and his mother were

(01:20:03):
lined up? By a bunch of Nazi scumbags
during World War 2 and they wereabout to shoot them dead until
some other Italian partisans showed up and rescued little
Bruno Sammartino next to his mother and she told them we're
going to a better place. You're never going to be hungry

(01:20:24):
or cold again. And Bruno, little Bruno who
lived to be well, he still is hestill alive?
No. All right, so he did pass away,
but his life was on the lane. Go check out that interview.
Bruno Samuel Sammartino is a story from childhood.
It'll blow your mind Do. You think his mother had a

(01:20:47):
mustache? Well.
You know them Italian women? They're pretty hairy.
Randy's middle name was Mario, and he's an Italian.
The whole Angelo, the unmentionable.
And you know, the Italians, let me tell you something.

(01:21:10):
They are the lovers. Romeo, Rocky and Randy.
Yeah. Do you have a base?
Do you now? I know you played baseball, but
do you have like a team you rootfor the Please don't say the
Cardinals. In baseball, will the Cardinals
cut the Macho Man so they can goto hell?

(01:21:30):
Yes. Yes.
Yeah, it's not about my favoriteteam, it's all about who must
suffer, and that would be the Cardinals.
Well, macho, we've only got the Toronto team to cheer for in
Canada and. Their.
Heyday was back in the 90s or something.
Back-to-back World Series. Yeah.

(01:21:51):
Yeah. So beat the brakes off the
Yankees right now. Yeah, they're looking pretty
good right now. Here you go.
But we like to watch hockey around here.
Yeah, that's our style. You got the Devils and the Wild.
Yeah, right. OK, well, we're but we the Wild,

(01:22:14):
we got lots of history with them.
Not so much the Devils, right? You know, see them play fairly
rarely, but the Wild, we've met them in the finals and, you
know, I'd say we got some heat with the Wild, yeah.
I'll tell you this, I actually will cheer for the Canadian
teams before I'll cheer for the Wild.

(01:22:35):
So that's. All right, well, that's the next
thing we can do when you show upin Winnipeg there, Mr. Pleasure.
That's Kevin, right? Yes, Sir.
Yes, Sir. Yeah, we'll play Jets.
This is our season. We're going to take the Stanley
Cup and we're going to bash it over the head of the LA Nights
and anybody else who gets in ourway.

(01:22:59):
Well, Mr. Macho Manito, this is a blast, Yes.
I appreciate it. Yeah, thanks.
I've had a good time too. A few laughs and lots of lots of
lots of blue humor. Blue fluid.
I'm into it. Yeah, bigot.
Anytime you want to come back and hang out, you're more than

(01:23:20):
welcome. I definitely work on that DDP
Yoga so you can start poffoing during your one man show.
Might have to have a vertebrae or two removed.
That what, Lanny? Did.
What's the secret? Or did he have a giant hog?
I think it's the giant Italian sausage is probably gonna hit
the scale right there. Oh my goodness.

(01:23:43):
Guys. And with that hit, the music,
the macho Manitoban, he's out. Thank you very much.
Shannon Lizard. Claude Kim.
Oh yeah #1 dig it. Oh my.

(01:24:07):
Well look if you got if you got I, I highly recommend checking
out the Legendary Wrestling Obsession at Leg WRE Obsession
on Twitter. If you put in Legendary
Wrestling Obsession in Spotify, the podcast comes right up.
It looks like they do an episodeonce every 2-3 weeks.

(01:24:28):
Definitely check it out. I'll be checking it out more.
I checked out this last episode,man he was fucking great.
Amazing. I I want him.
I want him back on and back on again.
There's your sound clip. I didn't get a chance to, but I
wanted to. I wanted to go to the chat.
We got do not request the Lanny as the episode of the title just

(01:24:53):
tuned in. Thought I was hallucinating from
the heat down here. Papa Squat says love this guy.
Miss miss Miss, Brundle says this guy is great.
How was there 2 double T and twowin?
I don't know how that happened. I don't know he's talking about.
I think it's a Gray beard joke, yeah.
Gotcha, best guess incredible like he's he's over, he's over

(01:25:16):
with the with the crowd for sure, man, that was that blew me
away. That's.
That is, he's committed. That's awesome.
Yeah, MB said. Already guest of the year said
that early, early on. That guy was fantastic, man.
Get him on. Get him on quarterly.
He should have. He should have way more

(01:25:39):
followers than he has. That was incredible.
Yeah, incredible shout out to St. team leader SJ for for
hooking that up. That's we were going to do it.
We were going to do it in fucking luchador masks.
We were going to mock but he came in fucking hot.
Holy shit. I love Pete.
Honestly. Fucking book him for the

(01:26:01):
anniversary show. He can sit there a whole fucking
time and just yell. Pretty much a maniac.
I don't give a shit. Next next time I might have to
introduce him to Pete. Pete Brown.
No. Oh, Pete, Oh, you became a
handsome pleasure. Man and it's like in my mind

(01:26:22):
after after talking to him it's worth it to take the day trip up
to Winnipeg just to have him show me a route.
Hell yeah. And you get to sit and do a show
with him. Yeah, worth it.
Worth. It Yeah, man, I can't I I can't
recommend that enough. You know, we'll put all this,
I'll put all his links in the show description in case you

(01:26:43):
weren't watching live and you'relistening and you want to check
him out or need an easy way to access them.
That guy rules. Holy shit, I I don't have a
commercial break loaded up. I can just run through what's
available on the Shining Wizardsnetwork right now.
If you guys need to take a piss or something, or if you guys
want to stretch your legs, we can just go to a solo shot.
If you want to sit there while Ido this, it's all up to you.

(01:27:06):
Nobody's in the bathroom, so I'mgood.
All right. So you're not going to take a
shit because nobody's in there. Quick quickly plug to shining
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(01:27:28):
the lawn. The loaded question you guys did
not mention Knight Rider, the Mystery Machine.
Those would have been good cars.It's it's.
Yeah, but if you don't get the power, you know.
Yeah, but it's still be cool to have the kick car was cool.
I just want the thing in the front, the red thing to go back
and forth. Well, you can get like a
connection for your car to do that.
You get that in your in your Subaru, it'd be fine.

(01:27:49):
A mystery machine. Fred banging Velma in the back
of it. Come on, Daphne, threesomes.
Just OK. But I don't think that like I
don't think that goes with it though.
I don't think you just automatically have a threesome
if you have the mystery. No, but I mean it happened in
the car. Right, but, but the dog's going
to be there too. I'll take.
Scrap. Oh, you are horny.

(01:28:09):
No, I'm not like that yet. Their seven minute mission is on
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They actually have a YouTube channel now too.
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Enjoy it. Our OH revelry Will and Tom go

(01:28:54):
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right now, the inconclusive breakdown podcast.
Oh Julian, their latest episode,Justin and Vince, the first half
of the show, they do a great jobof talking comics and wrestling
and video games and TV. And the second-half is all
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(01:29:17):
It's my favorite. Oh, and they do top ten list,
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The other shows, Year of Duke and Rogue, they're gonna give us
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(01:29:40):
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we might find out what the next season's about.
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Oh, and the Mark Werder podcast,that was silly of me not to
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(01:30:01):
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Check out the Mark Warder Podcast every Wednesday night
immediately after AEW Dynamite. PP Schlongo.
Man, I don't know how that guy does that much on my voice.
I can't even do my regular voicetonight.

(01:30:23):
As opposed to. I don't know it just but it's
like it's very scratchy. There's all right, I got to, I
just we got to I got to talk about this because this has been
on my I don't know why. Wait a minute.
Street team. Oh, the street team, of course.
Can't forget the street team tonight.
Street Team SJ will be at. We got the gimmick here right?

(01:30:44):
Where is. This Rumble in the Burt, Yeah,
Winnipeg Pro Wrestling, I want to say October 18th.
No, October 19th, Brett was fucked up.
The Rumble in the Bert, it's loaded.
They just announced Mercedes Monet is going to be there.
It looks like she's wrestling for another title.
So we're going to do that gimmick.
Hansel, Kevin, shake his head. He doesn't like that.
But more importantly than Mercedes Monet be there.

(01:31:07):
SJ is going to be there. She'll be handing out some
Shining Wizards koozies. If you want a koozie, talk to
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You got to do a tiny bit of work, and that tiny bit of work
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Very easy. Just pull it up on your phone.
I know you got YouTube on your phone.

(01:31:27):
Go to youtube.com or just searchthe Shining Wizards.
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Keeps your drinks cold, keeps your hands warm.
You don't have to worry about cold hands.
And it's fucking cold up there, the macho man said.
So no Tony. Tony's a dummy.

(01:31:50):
I hit. Him with it.
Tony's a dummy. He just gave us homework it.
Was like 2 weeks ago. Yeah.
No, Tony, you don't owe homeworktonight.
You don't. All right?
We got all this stuff out of theway, right?
Yep, I got. What do you want to head to?
I got to talk about this NXT thing.

(01:32:12):
I don't know. I don't know why the idea of an
invasion a showdown, what they change it from invasion to
showdown because I guess they announced it wasn't an.
Invasion anymore because it looks like a Nazi symbol or
something like. That no, I thought it was
because it was announced the same.
The pay-per-view is the same daythat another country.
I don't know. This doesn't.

(01:32:33):
That doesn't make any sense though.
Like it's. The the invasion, it's now goes
by Showdown. The reason the backlash with the
name emerged from Israeli fans due to October 7th is the oh,
it's the second anniversary of the Hamas attacks.
Yeah, but there's. Always going to be some

(01:32:53):
connection to something that doesn't.
I'm with you, double T. So it's horrible, but this is
fucking pro wrestling. Stop.
They said also the the red V unintentionally resembles the
Hamas symbol. I know it's great it's reaching
there, but. Yeah, my red asshole also
resembles it. How do you like them out?

(01:33:15):
I guess I got to see a doctor I know.
Proctologist. Probably.
But anyway, I go back. I go.
Back this week, right? I'm like, I'm going to watch NXT
again. I don't know why, but I'm super.
And as much as I did don't like what they did two weeks ago and
we talked about it with Kate, I was like, I want to see what

(01:33:36):
they did this week because they're going to announce these
four on four Survivor Series teams, Team TNA against Team
NXT, four men against four men, four women against four women.
They're going to announce these teams.
So I fucking sit down and I watch NXT.
Boy, boy, I don't fucking understand it.

(01:34:00):
Don't understand it. The show starts off.
Ricky Stark comes out, Saints, Ricky Saints comes out.
He cuts a promo. He's going to captain team NXT.
Oh my God, that makes sense. He's the fucking NXT men's
champion. Here comes JC Jane.
She's going to captain the women's team because she's the
women's NXT champion. This makes perfect sense.

(01:34:22):
Throughout the show, the story is we're going to find out who's
going to be on these teams, and certain people are vying for
trick. Williams comes out, he already
said he's going to, he's part ofthe men's team and they're like,
OK. Fucking stupid.
But he's the TNA champion and then, like in all the graphics,
he's in front of Ricky Saints. They should.

(01:34:44):
I mean if Ricky Saints is this captain, shouldn't he tell him
to go kick fucking rocks I guessand be like you're you're TNA
champion, we don't want you on the fucking team.
Well, I think, I think, I think he's accepted in the team
because him being TNA champion really sticks a craw in the TNA
wrestler's ass. Yeah, but he's fucked over some

(01:35:05):
of the NXT wrestler. Like I remember he had the four
way with the Oba and Saints and somebody else against Dark State
and he walked out on them and everything.
Like he could do a little pull, be like, oh, I don't trust you.
You walked out on us in the lastfour, four on four.
Yeah, no, look, Ava is Ava's wants them to band together.

(01:35:26):
Band together, right. So it's it's Ricky Saints, it's
trick. Jovon Evans ends up on the team.
OK, The women's side, it's it's it's JC Jane.
Then we're going to have a matchbetween Jada Parker and Lash
Legend. Whoever wins that gets to be
part of the team. And then they, they, they, she

(01:35:49):
just picks. Shame than that.
She's got to know, but that's it.
She's got two titles. Let's pick her.
That makes. Sense.
Yeah, and then we don't know whothe last one's going to be.
Well, JC James got Fallon Henleywith her and but then Lola Vice
wants to be in the match. They don't.

(01:36:10):
Jordan Grace isn't even involvedanywhere.
She's she can't get a match. Nobody trusts Jordan Grace or
Joe Hendry, the men's team. They don't even look.
I know he just lost the title, but why is Obafemi not involved
in this? Yeah.
Right from the out. Like you're going to do a team
versus team. Don't you want like the baddest
motherfucker on your team? Miles Bourne?

(01:36:32):
Miles Bourne. Fuck you with that Miles Bourne
hate. Miles Bourne fucking rules.
I don't know. He took down Josh Briggs.
I know, but is he one of the four faces of NXT?
He's getting there. He's a they've put a lot of
steam behind Miles Bourne the last couple of weeks, months.

(01:36:53):
I'm the if it you know what if they put him up, if it was him
or Oba, Oba a million times that's.
The right answer. Then we got to do the front that
we're we're gonna team, we're gonna be Leon.
So Leon Slater and Javon Evans, they're going to fight and Bound
for Glory for the X Division title.
But they're going to be friends and they're going to tag team
tonight. But what if we get picked for

(01:37:13):
the four on 40? We'll cross that bridge when we
get there, Brov. Like, I don't know.
And then fuck, Mike Santana's going to captain the team.
Kelani Jordan, that girl from NXT, is going to captain the
Women's TNA champion. Team what?
She's had one NXT or TNA match? Pretty much, yeah.

(01:37:35):
There's a captain. Picks the shittiest fucking team
she could pop the the TNA women's division is fucking dog
shit I'm sorry. Yeah, yeah, they've taken a few
hits lately. It's, it's, it's Kehlani Jordan.
It's it's the, the, the inspiration that whatever
they're called now, the illustration.

(01:37:57):
Inspiration. Yeah, the Iconics.
Billy and Payton. Love them and and the girl that
just got released from NXT like 2 months ago, Jakari Jackson.
Yeah, Marisade or something likethat now, something like that,
no. No Indy Hartwell, who's
challenging for the title. No Zia.

(01:38:19):
Lee or whatever her name is. No Zia Lee, no Tessa.
Blanchard, no Zia, Brookside. Piss poor, this poor.
The men's is no better. No offense, but like Mike
Santana, love him. He should be there, right?
He's the captain of the Yeah. Frankie Kazarian all in.

(01:38:40):
Yep. Moose.
I mean moose. Is Mr. TNA, he's former person
and Matt Cardona there? Yeah.
But see, Matt Cardona isn't, I don't identify Mark Mike Cardona
as a TNA guy. I don't think anybody.
Either, but he's part of. This has been Moose has been in
TNA since what, like 2015? Sixteen at this point at least

(01:39:04):
he's a TNA guy. He's not like and he's a former,
what, two time champ? Former X Division champ, so.
And then Leon Slater. The X Division champ.
I know what he is, it just doesn't like no Steve Macklin,
no Eric Young. Yeah, Eric Young was the one I
thought would have been a good pull.

(01:39:25):
No Joe fucking Hendry. But isn't Hendry he's reffing?
There's going to be some, there's going to be some
chicanery there. How much you want to bet Jordan
Grace is referring the women's match?
They haven't announced it yet, but I wouldn't surprise me.
And like, and then like you haveLyra is is they're they're doing

(01:39:50):
some kind of story with Lyra Valkyria and Tatum Paxley.
Like if you saw her there, just this is me just being like, I'm
thinking I want the four best Ifshe's there in NXT, like
wouldn't I want her on my team? Yeah.
Yeah. Frustrating.
It just they're, they're and then the end of the show ends in

(01:40:15):
a giant fucking brawl and then old fucking cyclops are just
standing in the aisle chuckling,laughing.
This idiot, Yeah, man, yeah, fucking yelling and screaming.
He fucking eats a shit. But I'm going to watch Tuesday.
I'm going to go to work. I'm going to come home and I
take a shower and I take a shit.I'm going to make dinner and I'm
going to fucking watch like an idiot.

(01:40:39):
So they still got you? Yes, because I want us.
I really am rooting so hard for Mike Santana.
Me too me. Too Oh, Lola Feis made the
women's team cuz she beat FallonHenry Henley and so like yeah,
Fallon Henley, Fallon Henley, right.
Why wouldn't why wouldn't they do the put the red chick in

(01:40:59):
there, right? Kate brought it up last week.
Swaruka and this girl Zaria. Oh, Zaria.
Right, they have this. Zaria is jealous of her.
I mean I guess this plays in because Zaruka got picked,
Azaria didn't. Yeah, they, no, they ended that
segment with that, though. I can pretty much not make it
through a NXT women's backstage segment because it's always like

(01:41:23):
every woman in the locker room and every week it ends with them
all screaming at each other and it's just, it's awful.
Never almost as awful as what? So it never turns in like a
pillow fight. No.
BMP, anything like that? OK.
Nope, not up your your alley there.

(01:41:44):
Not up your eye either. Figured I'd ask.
Yeah, but I'll, you know, I'll look like we got.
What do we got? Oh, and then like, come on, come
on. Do we really think the Hardy
Boys are going to lose to fucking dark State?
Somebody's going to lose. There was a dark state promo and

(01:42:05):
I swear to God I thought it was like outtakes.
The one black dude, I don't knowhis name.
He like was he seemed like he was at AUS two things.
He seemed like he was strugglingto get through the promo.
And how am I supposed to take the promo seriously when there's
a fucking progressive logo in the corner of my TV?

(01:42:27):
They had fucking product placement.
They paid. But like, you could have picked
any of it's like dark. And they're all like moving
around. We're going to do this.
We don't care how many titles you have.
And all I could think of is fucking Flo and the little
ginger kid. What's his name?
Who's the ginger kid that does all the fucking progressive
commercials? It's a ginger kid.

(01:42:48):
Yeah, the little, I don't know, white kid.
What's his name? Oh no.
Jordan, Steve. Tim, Steve Jordan.
Steve J. Not the fucking tight end from
the Steve. Dave.
Steve Jordan. Dion Jordan.
Progressive characters. Hello Jamie.

(01:43:11):
Jamie is his. Name.
He's not a kid. He's he's probably going to be
like 45 years old. Fucking ginger.
He's got no soul cares. Sorry, Tropical, Yeah.
Tropical's got soul. He didn't Tropical got soul,

(01:43:34):
right? So I just, I, I don't, I don't
know, like, and then you're taking all these people that are
going to be featured in this NXTversus TNA thing on the WWE side
and you're putting them up the smack down and they're all
getting wins, right? So am I expecting anyone from

(01:43:56):
TNA to beat any of these people?Because the track record shows
WWE clearly thinks they're far superior than TNA.
Fucking two of their talent are their fucking champions.
TNA is one step away from being #2 apparently.
Just need that. TV deal, I think if they get it,
this is going to sound weird, but if they get ATV deal and

(01:44:21):
there's like a weird world out there where if, if the WWE says
it's OK to watch this, the WWE fans will watch it, right?
They flock to AAA, right? I bet you more people are
watching TNA. But if they get on like a real
cable network and WWE endorses it, I bet you they go to #2 I

(01:44:42):
bet you they pull numbers very similar to a W.
I wonder. I wonder where they could go
though, you know what I mean? Like they're not going to,
they're not going to be on the network.
That's in there. Yeah.
I suppose I could go to CWI, didn't think about that, right?
NXTNXT. WNXT and and TNA on CW.
Tuesday and Thursday nights. You get to it's got to be a

(01:45:06):
paramount, it's got to be a paramount station.
I could I very and this has nothing to do with a EW.
I think the people that watch a EW want to watch a EW.
I think, I think that the I think a EW settled into to to

(01:45:37):
giving the fans what they want. And it's the fans that are that
want to watch like they're not. They're not trying to reach new
wrestling fans. No.
Right. And I guess it it's it's OK for
them. They're happy with it.
I mean, their ticket sales are not, you know, the next month
like the sales are not great forsome of these upcoming shows,

(01:46:00):
but they're content with what they're doing and HBO Max TBSTNT
whoever like they're content too.
But I think in that you're goingto introduce the WWE Universe,
the TNA, and there's a lot of, there's a lot of stuff the TNA
does that I like. Yeah.
But it's fucking pain in the assfor me to watch.

(01:46:22):
You're telling me you shouldn't?Even log in.
No, I can log in, just not my account.
Double T Just remember the last pay-per-view we watched.
Oh, I know, and I'm off Sunday night too.
And I'm contemplating ordering Bound for Glory like a real
sucker. Right what they do on TNA this
week. Frankie Kazarian, Connie Jordan,

(01:46:44):
Trick Williams All lost. What are we doing?
Makes the win so much easier though.
Makes the win so much sweeter when it happens.
Double TI can. You really think I really the
inspiration won the tag titles this week, So yeah, that's

(01:47:05):
something I. Really.
I'm going to watch. I love that it's Survivor Series
rules. The Mustafa Mustafa Ali Ethan
Page thing I'm in on too, OK. Yeah, that I like Ali.
He came back, he cut a promo andhe was like, I was told I was
going to get a title shot and then they let me go.
So I'm here for my fucking titleshot.

(01:47:25):
Like it was a great promo. Yeah.
That's pretty cool. Yeah.
So I thought that was really done, done really, really well.
I don't know. I mean, I think in a different
era, this invasion would be going over like gangbusters.
I don't think so. You don't think so?
Not at all. Not at all.

(01:47:47):
There's only been, there's only been one invasion that's ever
worked ever. And that was before the age of
the Internet and it was the NWO.Well, that's why I said if it
wasn't in this day and age, if it was 20 years ago where you
didn't know the WWE and TNA wereworking together and all these
former www.en XT people start showing up at TNA.

(01:48:07):
I don't think WWE has a good track record of invasions you.
Know the. Retribution, The Nexus, WCWECW
All. That right, but but to double
TS, double TS point, even if youtake it like way back, you know,
if you take it back 20 years, you're still going to need to
pull some of those top stars over.

(01:48:28):
You know what I mean, like that's that's part of the whole
thing that made it made it work for for the NWO is that they had
Nash and Hall 2 top stars come over.
And I don't think that like backthen, who you going to pull?
It's going to be a top star that's going to you know what I
mean? Like what do you got Benoit
angle? Like what?
Who are you pulling from there to have over there to make it

(01:48:51):
work in a day before we knew everything the fuck that was
going on? What are you saying like 20
years ago? I was talking about NXT.
Are you saying like 20 years agonow in WWE?
No like to your point. Like right, But you said Benoit
Angle. So I think you lost us all.
No, yeah, if we went back in time, because what worked, what

(01:49:13):
worked for WCW is that they theygrabbed 2 top stars from from
the left of the time. Right.
And if you said 20 years ago from now we're looking at 2005,
I wasn't, you know what I mean? Literally 20 years ago.
Literal. OK, OK, well I was, I'm
following you. And then you're like, well you
lost us. Well, I'm fuck up your tail
here, you son of a bitch. Rhonda, were you lost or did you

(01:49:35):
know what the fuck he was saying?
I just let him go. OK.
You motherfucker, I. I'm, I'm saying, OK, if they did
this NX, this TNANXT envision 25years ago, OK, right.
I think it goes. I think it works better because
everybody's not so fucking dialed in with all the behind

(01:49:56):
the scenes shit. But 25 years ago we still had
WCW. Should we get juice?
We should have juice. Can we get?
Can we go to the juice phone please?
I thought you were the expert on2000 WCW.
I wish I wasn't. Speaking of the NWO, the Don Cal

(01:50:20):
family is big, is as big as the NWO.
Fuck it. Sure shit is.
I think there's 14 people in it at this point.
There's a lot there's a lot of people.
I I was I liked, so I watched one of my life.

(01:50:45):
I like the surprise of Andrade coming back.
Yes, right, that. But that's just me thinking like
they will do something with him and also like I didn't hear
anything about it. I don't know if it was on the
interweb during the day. Andrada becomes the first guy to
go flip flop, flip flop. He's like fucking Michael Scott
getting a vasectomy. You know, clip clap clap.

(01:51:08):
But then like he's in the Don Cows family.
Then the Kyle Fletcher art Cassidy match was awesome until
fucking fake hologram comes out like.
What the? Fuck.
Are we doing? I think Real Hologram threw a
big fucking monkey wrench in that plan with him getting hurt
and they just had to do something to introduce Clon or

(01:51:32):
Clone or whatever his name is. I'm not saying it's good, I'm
just saying this is probably whyit happened.
And I do get, I think Andrade needs a manager.
Yeah, I don't think he speaks great English.
And that I need. I'm not saying that's a bad he.
Tweets. He tweets in English.
Pretty good. He told Dave Meltzer he's full

(01:51:53):
of fucking shit today. Oh, I love that.
That was fucking great. Did you see that HK?
Sure did. Yeah, so I think Don Callas is a
good choice for a mouthpiece forhim, but he's because otherwise
he's got to be walking Stoke. I know.
Everyone. Well, you and Joe hits it.

(01:52:14):
It looks like Takeshka or Okada is going to be out of there
soon. I know, but like they'll.
Be down to 23 members then. Yeah, yeah.
I do, I do like we got another Outrunners Dalton Castle thing
at Collision. Little promo package HK.
I didn't see it Brundle fly. I didn't see it either.

(01:52:37):
I was. Out game of the Iggy.
OK, all right, all right. It's fine.
It's fine. I do like how they featured Kyle
Fletcher on dynamite and collision, like coming out of
this main event spot, like they're really presenting him as
like a future world champion. I hate the fucking Adam Page
Samoa Joe, like it came out of nowhere.

(01:53:00):
Adam Page picks up the trio's belt and just like drops.
He like drops and that's it. Like and now they're like.
I think during the match too, he, Joe wanted A tag and Paige
wouldn't give it to him. Or, you know, if there's anybody
that can make this work, it's Samoa Joe.

(01:53:21):
And he gave an interview afterwards.
He gave it a fired up interview afterwards.
And I was like, you know, give me Adam Paige just to Mojo.
I'm, I'm good with it. Can't they just be like, why
does there have to be like dissension?
Why can't Samoa Joe just be like, hey, man, we've never
fucking tangled. You've never beat me.

(01:53:43):
Like, I want my fucking shot. He never got a rematch when he
lost the title. Fucking ask for your shot.
This like is so goofy. So we're brothers against the
Death Riders, and now there's just there's dissension all of a
sudden because you fucking dropped the trio's title that
nobody gives a shit about. Zero to 60.

(01:54:05):
You got, I don't know, you got the OPS or the trios champion,
but but Shabbat is dead or hurt.And who else was who was the
other champion? I don't know.
How? Where else?
Hobbs. Oh, Hobbs is there, and Joe and
Shabbata Hook was a champion, right?
Then he got concussed, right? He was part.
Of the OPS. Hook or Hobbs took his place.

(01:54:27):
Like, they just don't like it's,it's par for the AW course we're
going to bring in more titles, but we're going to devalue them
all anyway, so you're not going to give a shit.
Put the fucking trio's titles onDawn Castle and the Owl Runners
and make them a fucking highlight.
I don't want to tune into Collision and watch the Death
Riders beat fucking Adam Priest,fucking J Lethal, and some other

(01:54:51):
fucking nobody. Dynamite Kid.
Junior pal. Aw fuck that guy.
I think, I personally think, andI was hoping they would do it at
Wrestle Dream. I think it should go to Ricochet
and his group that demand. They've been doing great fucking
work together, Yeah. I like that.

(01:55:11):
I like Pew Pew and the boys. They've stepped it up, Bishop.
Bishop Comms. A great fucking guy.
So you miss Flowers? Yeah.
Handsome Kevin, you look like you're despondent here.
I just I. Watched I I no, not, not at all.

(01:55:34):
I was waiting for double T so when you need to, I watched the
six year right. Yeah, six year.
We got Punk and Cody in the in the montage.
We made made it six years and they opened the match.
You opened the show with a take.Can we just not call them tag
team matches anymore? Can we just just stop it?
They're not tag team matches. I got just frustrated watching

(01:55:59):
the opening match because for over 2 minutes, over 2 minutes
and you know in a wrestling match, 2 minutes is a long
fucking time. Tags guys in and out, nothing's
good like. Why it's?
Six years of this shit, they're not going to change you.
Do you know what the definition of insanity is?

(01:56:21):
Complaining about it every week.And watching a, watching AEW
with, with a hopeful heart, that's what it is.
So it's so frustrating and then frustrating.
For you, you're looking for likewe can't.
Have A tag team match. But this mags are.
Made and rules are upheld in a fucking tag team match.

(01:56:42):
Don't, don't, don't pick and choose, man.
Don't pick at you. Don't.
Don't act like you're going to count and don't count.
Just say you don't. We don't fucking count.
We don't give a shit about tags.We don't give a fuck shit about
ring. We don't care about any of it.
We're just here for high spots. That's all you do.
And like watching that first match, I was, I was hopeful.
I was hopeful. I like Kenny Omega.

(01:57:04):
I could give a shit less about Bro Dildo, give a shit less
about him, give a shit less about The Young Bucks.
But I like Kenny Omega, right? I like him.
So going in I was like, you knowwhat?
Give me, just give me a regular match, please.
Give me A tag team match. They didn't do that.
They didn't fucking do that. And then after.
That course they didn't do that.The fuck is you went into that?
You gave me a regular match. I what I.

(01:57:26):
Hope, man, I hope. And then.
And then what? What?
Brendo Brendo said it. This is.
This is the young. Bucks, this is not going to
change. Yeah.
I, I I can't give up hope so. So then.
Asian Joe wants to know. Asian Joe wants to know.

(01:57:46):
Did you like Macarena's spot in the tag match?
No, no. And stop calling the tag match
Asian Joe. You knock it off so.
Isn't that like a Mexican dance though?
I would figure you'd like that. Yeah, good call.
Yeah, not in the confines of a of a no rules match.
Oh, just. Your third, like your third
visit in three days to your restaurant is where?

(01:58:08):
They yeah, then then it then it's fantastic.
Yeah. Oh.
My gosh, can I am I going to getto do the Macarena?
Maybe, yeah, maybe. So that match ends and then
Andrade shows up and then he's he's part of the damn, the, the
the catalyst bullshit. And it's too many people and
that thing that's fucking thing's just just too much.
So then he comes back and you'rejust going to bury him in this

(01:58:29):
group, right? You're going to bury him because
groups already has their big guy, right?
They got flushed. He's their big guy, but then
also who? Does they got, they got Okada,
they got. Takashita Lance Archer still
back there in the background somewhere.
I'm sure you know, it's just, it's just fucking too many guys.
So he's going to get buried in that, that group ever give a
fucking give a shit about him soon anyways.
And then he can move on to the next match.

(01:58:50):
What do you got? Orange Cassidy?
I like or I like Orange Cassidy.Yeah.
I like him right? He's got the match going on the
match, it's going OK. But the thing that drives me
nuts is that in an AEW match, itnever seems like they're
cheering for somebody. It never feels like they're

(01:59:12):
cheering for somebody. It feels like they're cheering
for spots. And this has been my issue with
them for for a long time. You hear the crowd.
Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, that's the. Entire fucking match, man.
So they're like nobody. It doesn't feel like anybody's
really invested in the people inthe match.

(01:59:33):
They're invested in the spots they're about to see.
And that fucking drives me nuts.Right match.
What's going on? Who's this?
Who's this hologram? Holograms out.
No. Hologram.
Oh, he's that's not hologram. But guess what?
He's also in the Don Kallas family.
Him too. Shit.
Yeah, it's nuts, right Tony? I'm saying it's crazy.

(01:59:57):
Shit's happening. So two matches in a row, right
after the match we get 2 two match bullshit.
Just. Bullshit after the match, right,
don't need it. Don Kalas is good.
Keep This is just it's just the Kala show, right, because odds
are if a match is on, he's goingto be out there.
That's that's going to be that'sgoing to be happening.
I just realized on the fucking banner.
I put dynamiter. I like that.

(02:00:17):
That's funny. That's it's a Dino miter Adam
Page in the OPS versus the deathriders.
I think we're we're all kind of done with the death riders,
right? Don't give a shit about the
death riders anymore. No.
And then that you've. You've turned shocking Double T
made a turn. So that title involved.

(02:00:39):
I'm OK with the Darby Death Rider stuff.
Yeah, yeah, I know. He's made a turn.
I'm. I'm not shocked.
So and then, and then after the match, I dropped your belt.
Oh, oh, you dropped my motherfucking belt.
You dropped my motherfucking belt.
Guess what? These guys don't even touch each
other. Send all the security.
Send all the security out now. Not when they're killing Kenny

(02:01:00):
Omega, right? Don't do it.
Then send it when these two motherfuckers haven't even
touched each other. Then they got all the security
in the just all. I know.
I'm sorry, Tony. It fucking irritates me.
All the security's. There.
Why would they? No Tony, fuck, fuck me.
So then they all, they all come out because now we have security

(02:01:21):
there, but not when the attacks happen.
We don't have it now, but we have it now.
So that drives me nuts. And they cut their promo.
I, I, I, I know what this is about.
I respect you. I look up to you.
When you cross me again I'm going to burn your Dick off
like. Do I?
No, no, it's a. Night.
Dino miter. It's the Dino miter, right?

(02:01:41):
Fuck you, guy. That's what I'm saying.
That's what I'm fucking saying with this shit, man.
Fuck you by. And then what was the what was
the next guy? Oh, yeah.
Tony Storm and Tamelo. You know what?
I I don't want to be a Dick about this, but something
happened to Tamelo. She doesn't look the same.
She looks like is that what it is?
But her face looks everyone before we sat down for the show

(02:02:02):
her face. Her face.
She dyed her hair brown instead.Or stop dyeing her hair.
Something, something's differentthere and I can't quite put my
finger on it. I'm not, I'm not quite sure
Tony's Tony Storm does. Does her gimmick get out of here
then just fine? Just keep moving, Keep it, keep
the shit moving. What's the next match?
Oh, the, the, the, the goddamn, the gates and the who's it,
Swirl. Who the fuck is swirling?

(02:02:24):
Why do I give a shit? Fuck swirl.
Fuck them next. And then after the match, here
comes who who comes out? MVP and the hurt guys.
We want to challenge you to a fight.
Not a It wasn't my kind of thing.
I've lost a step. I want to fight you.
I want to brawl you. What do you say?
Here, take the mic. OK.
We'll fight you on Tuesday. Sweet.
Good. Got that out of the way.

(02:02:44):
Fucking next. Keep it moving.
Keep it moving. What the fuck was next?
Was it the goddamn main event? Yes.
Yeah, I cut my balls off. Hated the main event so.
Why? Why, why, Why did I?
Stop watching it though. I.
Can't I didn't I didn't watchingit for like.
What? I stopped watching it for like a

(02:03:05):
month, right? Month and 1/2 right?
And then I had no frame of reference when I spoke about the
product I want to have. You just read the fucking
reviews or read the. Reviews doesn't give you a
feeling of the show. Oh my God, the feeling is you're
going to hate it. That's yes.
Yes, yes. Yes, I'm going to hate it and
I'm going to keep hating it, butI'm not going to stop watching

(02:03:27):
it. You can't make me.
I'm not going to make you, I just don't.
I don't think it's good to AsianJoe's right?
What I'm hearing is that HK probably shouldn't be watching
for his own mental health and blood pressure.
It's, you know, it's not a good idea.
It really isn't. I, I you.
Fixed your blood pressure, now you're going to fuck it up.
It's a EW, man. It's a EW.

(02:03:49):
But it's that's the thing. It's a EW.
This is not something new. That that doesn't make it right.
I'm not Kev. There's no right or wrong.
In pro wrestling, though. There's not.
There is, There's not. There's not.
There really is. There's not.
People are watching it, people are paying for it.

(02:04:10):
Everybody's making money. Nobody gives a shit.
I care. You care because he wants the
ship from the 90s WWE. Wrestling.
I watch all wrestling. You got Becky Lynch in CM Punk's
face, like fucking egging him onto hit him.
He won't hit her. That's the same thing Marina
Shafir does during every match and you complain about that.

(02:04:30):
But we didn't hear you complain about Becky Lynch being in CM
Punk's face and him not punch her in the fucking grill.
No, that's not what I complainedabout.
I complained about the way that that the way that confrontation
ended. They met together and then they
just went, oh, we're just going to walk away.
From each other. That's every fucking women woman
that's involved in every angle on TV.
You can't knock the bitch out anymore.
Don't meet. Whoa, the attitude.

(02:04:54):
There, it's not your broad pantymatches.
Yo. I love AB and P match.
Stone Cold's not going to stun Marina Shafir.
Oh, he might. It's a different time, yeah.
Yeah. Oh.
Speaking, he's no better. Speaking of Stunner, yeah, but
double T, we're not talking about the WB right now.
What? I'm just saying we see this all
the time saying saying one saying one being critical of 1

(02:05:19):
doesn't mean you compare the other one.
You can critique one with whatever critical.
Of WWE. We don't we, we haven't really
talked about WWE A. Lot WWE does the same nonsense
and bullshit that AEW does. Maybe not to the degree that AEW
does, but we know that AEW does it to that degree.

(02:05:40):
Right. But you could, you could you
could look at them differently. You can, or you could just not
watch AW and not get so upset. Oh, you would.
Love that, wouldn't you? For your well-being, yes.
Yeah, in 20 years when you're still alive and not heart
attacking over the young bucks. I'd love that.
Right, because the tag titles change because there was no tags
in the last four minutes. God, so irritating.

(02:06:01):
And they're like, what? I I lost all the money.
Oops. We got all the money.
We lost all the money. Broke bucks, you see, It's
funny. Broke back.
Bucks, thank you. Nailed that one.
Yeah. And I don't know, I just I.
Just I want. What?

(02:06:22):
What There's no There's no good guys.
There's no bad guys. Yes there is.
There's good and there's bad. There's.
Rules. The bad guys breakthrough like
you go back and and double TI was I was an event one guy with
AEW man. I ordered the pay per views.
I watched the show. I I liked it.
Something has changed since theystarted.
Something has changed and it's not for the better.

(02:06:44):
WWE. Not for the better, man, it's
not. Not for the better for you.
I can't imagine it's better for their numbers.
Obviously their, their ticket sales.
I mean like it's, it's and I, I,I love professional wrestling,
man. I want it to be good.
I want it to be good everywhere.This, this again.
And you can, you can, you can qualify the saying for me, yes,

(02:07:06):
for me it is not good whatsoever.
But for their ticket sales, for all that, it's not good either.
I want to go back to something that Brenda Fly said.
He said that Shaffir is not taking a stunner.
I saw SRS take a stunner. Who's SRS?
Sean Ronshrout. Oh, I'm sure it was horseshit.
Oh fucking horrible. Fucking horrible.

(02:07:28):
I mean, Vince, did he ever really take good stunner?
No, Linda. Linda took.
This one yeah, Linda took a bad stunner.
I don't know that that the last Vince stunner was probably the
worst stunner. Yeah, I just I saw.
You look back on that first one,it was pretty fucking bad too.
Yeah, yeah, the shake. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

(02:07:52):
I'm just worried about your well-being, man.
And I appreciate that. I really do.
I I just I love I and I only watch dynamite, right?
I don't dig into collision unless Brendelflyde puts the,
you know, lets me know that to the castle's going to be on.
I won't be watching this week, but I'll keep an eye or no
collision's on Wednesday this week.
I love to the. Because of the baseball on.

(02:08:13):
Thursday Dynamite's. Dynamite's on Tuesday.
Oh. Yeah, title.
Tuesday. Title Tuesday and the collision
Homecoming is Thursday or Friday.
Let me see. It's not Wednesday because they
moved dynamite, right? Well, I think that's just why
they moved. Homecoming is there's a lot of

(02:08:35):
date in the notes next Saturday just says next Saturday's
collision homecoming. Man, some asshole fucked up
those notes bad. They didn't put the collision
results in there, but that's OK.Yeah, it's all right.
And the banner, somebody, somebody called it Dynamiter.
It's all right. But we're.
Having fun. Yeah, of.

(02:08:57):
Course. Let me see if they got it here
this Tuesday. Jurassic Express.
Fun fun Title Tuesday title Tuesday TK put something I don't
give a shit about. Jon Moxley and Big Tom Ishi
again. No.
They're at Daly's Place 1. Daly's Place.
Daly's place for homecoming. Come on man.

(02:09:21):
They tweet a lot from their fucking.
Here it is. Saturday.
Yeah, Saturday. Oh, it is Saturday, OK. 8:00 or
immediately after the playoffs. OK, Speaking of Saturday, we got
WWE in Perth. How are we feeling?

(02:09:41):
How are we feeling about this PLE?
I just want glad I'm going to bein Florida not watching it.
I hope I can watch it so I'm feeling.
Upgrade your shit son. What's the what's the card
shaking out? What do you got the card?
Yeah, I got it in front of me. We got John Chana and AJ Styles.

(02:10:06):
OK. We got Rio Ripley and EOS Sky
against the Kabuki warriors. Yeah.
All right. I like that we got crown jewel
women Tiff against Steph, crown jewel men Crown jewel men Cody
against Seth. Two, who gives a ship matches
that won't matter a week from now?

(02:10:28):
Yeah, I, I, I, I am interested in, in Tiff and Steph.
I had Cody and Seth not quite asmuch.
I'm not sure. I'm not sure.
Maybe it's 'cause have you seen it a couple of times at this
point? They're wrestling for that.
They're wrestling for that big fucking belt that'll disappear
the day afterwards. I thought it was a ring now.
Is it a ring now? OK.

(02:10:49):
I think it's start, I think theyannounced it as a belt and then
I think the next, like they announced as a belt on Raw and
then on smack Down they changed it to like a.
Ring Well, didn't they have it? It was a belt last year, right?
Yes, yeah, it. Was a.
Goofy belt. Yeah.
Why don't they just, why don't they just fucking do battle bowl
for these? Just do a fucking battle bowl.
Such a fun show. Easy.

(02:11:11):
Battle Bowl not a fun show. I like Battle Bowl.
You really? Yeah.
Battle Royals are fun. I don't know, like the frenemies
thing. I'm over frenemies.
Random draw You don't know who'syour tag team partners.
Should it be it's? Not random.
Yeah, it is. They do the spinner and Missy
Hyatt takes the ball out. You want today's Missy Hyatt?

(02:11:33):
No, I do not. Why she's still not.
She ain't looking bad for an older lady.
Yeah, SJR. I worked a match with her.
Yeah, she can get right. She can get it still.
You got to do it for the story. No, I'll tell you.
I'll. You know what?
I will tell the full story on the Patreon.

(02:11:54):
Teaser Mcgeezer. The full story I tell you what
might be looking at Missy a little bit differently after you
hear the story. Why was the Sandman fucking her
in a cemetery? No, no, no, no, no, no, no.
I don't give a shit about this PLE.
Yeah, I want, I want to watch it.
I hope, I hope I'm able to watchit.
But we'll see. We'll see.
Do you want? Do you want me to talk to your

(02:12:14):
wife or you? Yeah.
You got a contact information? Yeah, yeah.
See what I can do? Just give.
I appreciate the boy. Give the boy his WWE.
Yeah, thank you. Yeah, thank you.
Yeah, give me the WWE and and give double TI Guess anything
off the fucking menu you've prepared for the guys.

(02:12:34):
Bro, I showed everybody I was out at the bar watching the
football game with Thursday night.
That amazing. So nice.
Just my wife's fantastic. Just, you know, me and Ree are
like, we're having a barbecue and you'll eat what we fucking
serve. Although to be fair, we, I do
like, all right, HK likes veggies.
Let's do that. We'll do some tuna, you know,

(02:12:55):
we'll make sure you can eat. Yeah, that never ending Veggie
I. Was in the refrigerator the
other night and that broccoli was jammed in the back.
I finally threw it out. I was like, she's fucking here
if it's the BBQ. She fucking worked me.
Yeah, she did. Yeah, she did.
So yeah, it was a big week, man.We got crown jewel Saturday

(02:13:16):
morning right in your wheelhouse.
Like 8:00. Awesome.
Bound for Glory if anyone gives a shit about the Dudleys against
the Hardys for the last time ever.
Not really. I'm really look at the only
thing I really I want to see Leon Slater and Javon Evans and
I want to see Mike Santana TrickWilliams.
Otherwise, the rest of the card is I don't watch TNA.

(02:13:40):
I don't watch TNA every week so it just doesn't.
What's it Indy Hartwell against Kalani?
Jordan yeah, that would have been more interesting if not not
to take anything about against Kalani Jordan, but she's just
like shoehorn shoehorned in there and no time for a story

(02:14:01):
The. Collier shot gauntlet match.
I'm sure a couple NXT guys will be in there, a bunch of, I think
there's a bunch of free agents out there now, right?
Didn't Santos Escobar not renew his contract with the WWE?
Yeah, as of 12:00 AM tonight. Right.
So on Tuesday, we'll see him after the Don Callas family.

(02:14:23):
I hope so. He'll be he'll be in fucking
he'll be part of the TNA NXT invasion.
Maybe. Could you imagine?
Could you fucking imagine? Well.
Here's what they got to do. They got to put turn all the
lights off in the building. Tessa Blanchard, Gia Miller is a
match. This is the first time I've

(02:14:46):
heard the name Gia Miller. Who the hell is she?
I thought she was the backstage lady but I guess she does
wrestling too. OK.
Oh, at the last pay-per-view, Didn't Tessa like push her down
or something? I.
Don't know I. Think something happened between
the two of them at the last pay-per-view.
I try and put that out of my mind but I feel like I don't

(02:15:07):
remember that. I don't blame you at all.
Is there anything else you guys want to cover before we get into
our homework? No.
Nothing note in here, so AW talk.
We talked about Crown Jewel and we talked about a little Bound

(02:15:28):
for Glory. Nothing crazy though.
There. All right, Brundo, you were so
kind as to go in blind. Oh yeah.
And throw us a little bit of a curveball here.
Explain to us why you gave us Atlantis versus Ultimo Guerrero
from CML LS 81st Anniversary Show.

(02:15:51):
So I was maybe 2 weeks ago listening to podcast called
Lucha World that had been gone for about a year and came back
and they did a big thing on the the recent CMLL 92nd anniversary
and they talked about a couple of old matches and they

(02:16:12):
specifically mentioned Atlantis versus Ultimo Guerrero being one
of the better main events. They've had many years there.
And I've heard it was like a huge match.
I mean both guys were pretty much on top of Mexico at that
point. So I figured what the hell?
I've never really watched a lot of Atlantis or Ultimo Guerrero,

(02:16:35):
but I've always seen the name sosee what it's all about.
Also, once I found out it was the first $1,000,000 gate in
North America not done by WWEI was like all right, this is this
is a huge fucking match. And so Kevin, I know you having
a love for the the CMLL and the AAA wrestling.

(02:16:59):
Yes. How did this fare?
Those are my people. So I got a little concerned when
I threw it up and saw that it was about 50 minutes, right.
I. Got a little concerned, but then
I was watching the pageantry, man, it's it's second.
It's fucking amazing, right? You got all the you got all the

(02:17:20):
Ultimo gorilla with his entrance.
It's crazy. And and then Atlantis with his
damn, like everything is like somuch fun, like I'm I'm strutting
while I'm watching this and I'm fucking dancing, right, because
it's just fun. How could you?
How could you not watch this andbe like amped up for what was
going on? The crowd was into it.
These are these are these entrances are grandiose, right,
like like you've never seen before.

(02:17:42):
They're insane cool to watch. I love how they walk down the
state like everything about it sold in.
Were you were you concerned thatAltima Guerrero's headdress was
going to catch fire? A little bit.
I thought about that. Yeah, I thought about that.
I was like, oh, a little close to that Pyro man.
Look at a little close. And and something else I want

(02:18:04):
want to mention before you, you move on with the intro, right?
With all the, the, the pageantryand stuff, like love that there
was no commentary. They just laid out and they let
it do its thing. Yeah.
Yeah, the fuck the mariachi. How could you not like?
Mariachi the Conch. Shell, man, it's the best.

(02:18:27):
I got to get residency down there.
I got to get some residency. I I love it.
It's, it's just fantastic, man. Everything, My people, man.
It's my people. Is assholes big enough?
Put some drugs in your butt. Is this one of those I got to
identify as something things? No, no.
Drug mule. Drug mule.
Oh. OK, gotcha, gotcha, gotcha.

(02:18:48):
I would say because if I all I have to do is identify as a mule
and I get residency down there, sign me up.
I'll I'll hoops or whatever I need.
So. So.
One of the things I've always liked about and like I said, I'm
not a die I I've never been a die hard CMML or CMLL or AAA

(02:19:10):
guy, but there was always like it was always nice when I had
Mundo's to be able to flip it onand it filled like a void,
right? It always filled.
I always saw something there that I didn't see where I was
seeing other places and I love it absolutely.
Again, the the pageantry, the wrestling is the style is
completely different. Really enjoyed it.
You know also I'll say too, I know double T you you you

(02:19:32):
assigned that dump match which Ididn't know what the fuck was
going on. Dump Massimoto, Yes.
Yeah, this match all in Spanish.Tell you what, shame on me.
I don't speak Spanish. Didn't bother me a lick, right,
Because there's different thingsI can grab onto and it's it's a,
it's a, it's a kinder language to listen to.
I I really enjoyed it. So the match itself underway,

(02:19:52):
I'm in, I'm in the the the got that that first that sub that he
put on them all, wrapped them upall crazy style.
I'm in. I fucking loved it.
I but then I didn't realize it wasn't over.
Yeah, that got me too. I was like, wait, what the fuck?
I know. I was like about the.
Sense already. What the fuck happened, right?

(02:20:14):
Yeah, two out of three falls. Yeah, yeah.
And then I mean, every fall was unique in its own right, which,
which I really, really loved thewrestling outside of the like
the actual falls. I, I didn't fall in love with
what was happening, but like thecreativity and the way that
those motherfuckers flow together blows my mind.

(02:20:35):
Like it's like they've like every time you watch or every
time I watch a, a AAA CMML matchfor those lucha guys, it just
seems like they know exactly where they need to be flowing to
and everything. It's just, it's beautiful, man.
It's beautiful lucha. Lucha is fucking art.
Loved doing that. These guys were intertwined for

(02:20:58):
it's 2014, probably a good ten years before this, whether
feuding, they were in the same faction together, then back to
feuding. So you know.
Yeah. It was.
It was. Outstanding the emotion of the
match, like even watching it, like I don't know the entire
back story. I know that these guys are
intertwined. I know what's happening, but I

(02:21:19):
don't know the entire back story.
I don't know the program that they're currently in.
And you could feel the emotion from the from the audience, you
know what I mean? Like there was so much going on
that I absolutely, these are guys that love Ultimo or they
love Atlantis. It's it's fucking phenomenal.
You go back to. You go back to your things that

(02:21:41):
upset you about AW, the fan base, right?
They're not. They're clearly right from go.
When Ultimo Guerrero attacks Atlantis, the place is just loud
booing. Not happy that Ultimo Guerrero
is going after Atlantis. And to your point man, like he's
hitting those fucking backbreakers, those spinning

(02:22:03):
backbreakers. It's just like it's like 2 dudes
dancing. It's just it flows so they make
it look so fucking easy. The goofy like elbow tap, run
off the ropes, like I could do without those.
Those fucking suck. But.
Yeah, when they when they were they were at the dives to the
outside. They were just everywhere they
needed to be. Love the card girls too.

(02:22:25):
In between the falls. Oh.
Yeah. I wish we could see a little
more of the second one. She looked like she had a little
caboose. Love it coming in.
I'll tell you what, after the match, I, I don't know if that
was his wife or his daughter or who it was, but there, there was

(02:22:47):
a real ripe tomato in the audience there.
I think it was his wife and two daughters.
OK, that was. I think or maybe his sisters
because he's only like 42,000 and 40.
He's only like 42 at this point too, OK.
Well, there was a real ripe tomato in the audience there,
but the, the emotion after, after the match, you know what I

(02:23:08):
mean? Like it was, it was fantastic.
And like, that's, that's the thing, especially with this,
like I again, don't speak Spanish, right?
I, I pick up on things here and there, right?
I probably should know more thanI do, but you didn't need to
understand what the announcers were saying anything like that
to feel the emotion of what was going on in the ring from the
audience post match. Like this was this was a big

(02:23:31):
fucking deal. And and I fucking I sold Brenda
fly 100% sold, man. You keep you keep that lucha
stuff coming, man. I love it.
Yeah, no, I, I from the pageantry at the start, the two
quick falls and then the the last fall and just the emotion,

(02:23:52):
the crowd, the, you know, HK hita right on the head.
You you can, I mean, I've been in the restaurant business for
over 20 years, so I know enough.Like I know Altima Guerrero's
been Altima Guerrero for 26 years.
They said it's a zillion fuckingtimes that the significance of
the mask, like you can pick up on that through the commentary.

(02:24:14):
I just the finish came out of fucking nowhere.
Yeah. Nowhere.
My only complaint I knew when the referee was not going to
count 3 and when he was going tocount 2 1/2.
Yeah. Because his cadence was way off
when he was going to 2 1/2. Well, and that referee didn't do
a really good job getting around.
Yeah, he was. He was rough.

(02:24:35):
Got to pick the younger guy to be out there.
He was struggling to get down there for those pinfalls.
That's probably one of those famous CMLL referees that's been
around since like the 50s or 60sand you know, it's Anniversario.
So, you know, bring out the famous guy to referee.
I did not. I watched till he took off his
mask and I was like I'm not watching the rest.

(02:24:57):
This next 10 minutes, did anything of importance happen?
He it was more than, say, like he went out and he hugged his
family and his father came in. Yeah.
And that was pretty much it. Like they shook hands and he
bowed to the crowd again. And that was that was pretty
much that. I do like too, that they and I,

(02:25:20):
I, I don't know if they always do this, but they refrain from
filming who his family was untilhe had unmasked.
Yeah. No, no.
Did they catch him a little bit after they lost?
After they lost. They catch him during the match
too. Yeah, yeah.
During the match you could see them.
You could see them in a crowd a bunch of times.

(02:25:43):
As soon as he lost, they went tothem, 2 girls.
The 2 girls crying. Yeah OK yeah yeah.
Didn't bother. Yeah, I don't know if they
mentioned that on commentary. It would have been silly for
them to focus on them during thematch.
Yeah, I mean, they could show them in the crowd, like they
could show them before that and say all these are my kids, but

(02:26:04):
you don't know who I am or whatnot or.
Well, you, you acknowledge that they're there because then when
you show them after the match and they're crying, then you
understand the significance of what they did also like.
If you show them before he gets unmasked, then you can kind of
figure out who he. Yeah, yeah.

(02:26:24):
Who he is, if you'd know, if youlike, grew up with her and she,
like, you know, yeah, go to her house and you see, like,
pictures of her father on the mantle.
This is Mexico though. It's not like even in 2014, I
imagine the internet's like flying around, not flying
around. Mexico.
I don't know man, so many of those luchadors don't leave the

(02:26:46):
house without their mask on. Yeah, yeah, it's.
True. I mean, it's it's.
El Santo was buried with it on. Yeah.
Yeah, I'll tell you what, AltimaGuerrero, he needs the mask.
I've seen a post match or post mask.
He's an ugly fucker. Whoa.
He knows how to make some good looking kids though.

(02:27:08):
Hey, he can. He fucks.
He fucks. Also, props to those guys,
especially Altimo Guerrero. You could only see his mouth,
but even like you could feel it through the just the way he was
working his mouth. Like when he'd be on the ground,
he'd be like, like. Yeah.
In pain like. But.

(02:27:29):
You can't see. It's so unique because you can't
see their face, so they have to resort to other ways to express
pain or when they're happy. And it was just like little
things like I just he was like sucking on his like, like, like
I could just see him laying there after blue, not blue
Panther. I want to say Blue Panther
Atlantis hit the the the crossbody from the outside, the

(02:27:51):
top rope to the outside and theyjust pander and he's like.
I. Feel like the best mask match
wrestlers always like Liger is another guy.
I know he's not a luchador, but Liger you could always like he
showed so much emotion even though he had a mask on, like
you could just see in body language and that.
And with like with that too, in the the before he before he

(02:28:14):
takes his mask off when he's talking to, I don't know if it's
the ring announcer, whoever it is, like his mask is still on
and he's taught he's in the ringand he's talking to you again, I
don't know if it was the ring announcer or official from the
company, whatever it is like he's talking to him and you can
tell like there's emotion in what he's about to do.
You know what I mean? It was it was so fantastic.
Such a good piece for him to fly.

(02:28:34):
Such a good piece. Yeah, and then I mean like he's
had some unbelievable. He's one of those guys that he
grabs some like pretty famous masks and Imposs and before and
yeah, yeah, he took Aguilar or whatever his name is SA Rios's
mask. He had another big one.

(02:28:59):
I just wanted to use Wikipedia, I'll tell you.
That's the I looked at it recently, that's the only mask
or hair match he's ever lost wasthis one.
Dude, he took Negro Casa's hair.Yeah, he took mask.
Mascaro Ano's hair. He took someone else's hair.
Scorpio Junior's hair. Reyes Spunt, Ray Escorpion's

(02:29:23):
hair. He lost his mask to Atlantis,
took Viano 5's mask. That was the big one.
Yeah. Yeah, that.
Was huge Guerrero Zulu's mask. He took Dufonto 2's mask, and he
just took Mr. Aguilar's mask. Oh, no.
That was the first mask he took.I'm sorry.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. So he had a, he had a pretty

(02:29:44):
good for him to only lose like one of those matches.
That's a pretty, pretty huge pull for Ultimo.
Yeah. I remember him a lot, seeing his
name in the magazines a lot likeyou, the five hundreds or
whatnot. He would always be ranked really
high. Him and Ray Buchananero were A

(02:30:06):
tag team. They were always like featured
and whatnot. But he just, he just wrestled
this weekend against Mystico at fucking MLW.
In the Opera Cup, yeah, he made it to the semis.
Awesome. He was just on AW this year.
He wrestled the Okada one week. Oh yes, that's right.

(02:30:29):
Fucking Ultimo Guerrero. I remember watching that being
like, Oh my God, this is like the first time I get to see this
guy. And then he's a little past this
prime these. Days little bit, I think I, I
think we were, I went to an ROH show at Hammerstein where he,
they brought him in and he wrestled Damien Priest.
Oh, that's right. And it was the fucking shit
'cause they're the weather was bad.

(02:30:50):
Their plane got fucking delayed.Like they, they just got to the
building. It was like put your bags down,
go out there and it was not good.
At least the midge's of the plane.
I I worked a show were super crazy.
They're supposed to be there andhe he didn't make it to the
airport. It's an ECWS thing.
Yeah. Who's the HK?
You're up, right? Yeah, yeah.

(02:31:11):
And I'll tell you this right now, I had, I've been sitting on
this one. It is not an emotional match.
It is not. But I, I can say that because
it's also a match that I wanted to watch.
I picked this episode of Superstars because like, you
know what, that's going to be fun to watch.
And then I fell asleep. So I never made it to the match
itself. So I haven't seen this match

(02:31:33):
since it initially happened. It is superstars July 13th,
1996. It is what they're calling a
home improvement match. The competitors Duke the
dumpster. Drossi is taking on TL Hopper.

(02:31:55):
Jesus. Christ so.
We're going to go from the highest of highs with the
emotions, all that to whatever this is, man.
And I can. I I.
Tell you. I I, I doubt that Drausay or or
TL got any family in the in the arena that night that are in

(02:32:15):
tears. So much for a new streak.
Don't say that. Yeah, it could, it could be
fantastic, man, I'm looking there's going to be some
entertainment value, I'm sure. Like I said, I, I, I picked out
that episode of Superstars to watch before I before I went to
bed and I fell asleep before I got there so.
All right, so we're this is on the Peacock.

(02:32:36):
Yes, Sir, all. Right, all right, I love it.
We're going to go back to 96 forthis one for next week.
So tuning kids, what do we got? Juice box next week.
He'll be joining us. We'll have pick updates.
The Shining Wizards Hall of Fameballots will be going out next

(02:33:00):
week, so I'll be reaching out toyou this week to get your e-mail
addresses if I don't have them. Gee Gee golly, is there anything
else guys? Forgetting anything I.
Don't think so. Nice.
All right, all. Right.
Well, thanks to the macho Manitobian he rocked at Leg WRE

(02:33:27):
Obsession on the Twitter machineAgain.
I'll put all that stuff in the link description to the show so
you can follow and listen along.Check him out and he will
definitely be back on the show. Without a doubt.
Tony's back next week, so we look forward to his triumphant
return. With that, let me see if I can
queue. This up here.

(02:33:48):
I got to piss so bad. And with that.
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