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And now it's time for the Shining Wizards.
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Oh Brian, welcome to episode 771of Shining Wizards podcast.
Tonight we preview Saturday night main event where one of
the all time great will be hanging it up for.
Good. Like everybody else in wrestling
does. John Cena first, Gunther and the
last time is now then. Plus we cover one of the worst
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Butcher jobs in commentary of all time as we go over NXT
Deadline. Also, we have the Yete himself
joining us, Ron Reese at 7:45. And sadly we had to say goodbye
last week to one of the greatest, no, the greatest
Larry's in professional wrestling.
So let's just get into it with some wrestling talk.
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And talk about wrestling. Rondo.
Double. T.
Tony, answer. Kevin, what?
Where were the sirens coming from?
Did you have your window open? No.
Whoops. I was just making sure everybody
was OK. I'm not the only one that heard
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sirens, am I? Yes.
Maybe I heard sirens. Yeah.
Thanks. Thanks.
Yeah, and that's why I made the weird.
Look, I was like fucking. Sirens going on.
Fire I have a fire truck like right down the block from me
normally but I would I would have seen the lights is.
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It a fire truck or a Firehouse, right?
Though both a fire truck and a Firehouse.
Did you mention the juice box? Oh no, we got the juice box
tonight at 771. Back to episode of the China
Wizards podcast. So let's get back into it with
some wrestling talk, I thought. We were gonna talk about
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wrestling. Love how we went right back into
like, like intro guy voice. Oh no.
Oh, we got the juice bar. But professional here.
We are very professional here and I do we have enough time to
talk about this developing situation with Brundo Fly and
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the the shower dumping. I'm just, I'm still working on
it, man. It's.
It's a whole thing. He.
Did and 20 seconds later I sent it back.
I even texted him it's there. I think I think we got it.
I think we might have it. Hold on jumping.
Jesus, hold on. It's fucking I got this.
It's spinning in the corner. We have time to talk about it,
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yes. Will it be prepared?
Oh, oh, Oh no. This is fascinating.
Whoa it. Worked.
You made it the background. I don't understand.
All right, so you have to take. Wait, no, do the background.
Yeah. All right, there we go.
OK. Is there a?
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Does that help? There you go.
Not really. It's It's close, but it doesn't
show what I wanted it to show. I know what.
You wanted it to show. Take us off of it and just make
that, oh, here's what you do, HK.
Yeah. Media, media assets.
Media assets. Right.
Go to to overlay and add it to the overlay.
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We'll just put it up as a picture and and then we can
still talk over it. Got to add it to the overlay.
Add it to the overlay. All right.
Yep. Working on it.
Geez Louise. Tony, you OK over there, buddy?
Yeah, I'm dying. You know, you're dying every
day. What is your ailment?
Age aids. Yes, AIDS.
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Beast man aids. Here we go.
I got it. I got it.
Click on that. There we go.
Yep. Where'd it go?
What are you doing? HKI?
Fucking click that. There we go.
There, there. This is what I want to talk.
About. This is what I want to talk
about because if you could see here, you see where the dumping
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apparatus is the toilet. It's not that close.
And use. It's not that close, my furry
fucking nuts. All right.
Wait. Who?
I can't. Whose bathroom is this?
This is grundle flies. You don't even have a shower
curtain. Oh, wait.
I'm gonna have a separate shower.
Yeah. Sit in the corner.
Yep. Oh.
That's far enough away. Oh.
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I agree, stop. No, like it's next to the
shower. It's far enough.
That's a four tile buffer. There's no way in four tiles.
I. Can understand if she was in the
tub and she had to watch him fucking grunting and fucking
I'm. Sure she has.
I'm sure she has fucking gripping his toes into the
tiles, fucking forcing out some hot logs, but Jesus dude, that's
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far enough away. That is not far enough away for
a grumper and it's bad look, it's boxed in.
Even if his fucking putridness like went right to the ceiling,
he would have to fill the room before I'd even permeated inside
the shower. 4 tiles is not enough.
Get out of here. Tiles is not enough. 4 feet
there. You're out of your.
Mind, they quote Brundle last week.
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Eat balls, you eat balls, pony. I'll send you some.
I'm going to go in there with the tape measure later and get
the actual measurements. No, don't even play Cape.
This dude, you're fine. No, that is unacceptable, says
the guy who walks in a circle inhis fucking cellar.
I I'm not taking a shit down there next to anybody.
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Nothing we know of here. And then I think I bring this up
every time your your bone of contention HK is that he does
this, but then you make it out to like it's like me, like
cleaning the shark out of my underwear in a porta John.
You take it and then you turn upto 11 and now you every time we
have a conversation go he washeshis clothes in the porta John.
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I don't I did it once run down 5.
Weeks. In his marriage with his wife
has a handful of times had to dothis in case of an emergency.
This is not like still close MB everybody, but everybody's
different. Not when it comes to shitting.
Yeah. Oh yes.
There are people, as we show on this show, everybody's
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different. Oh, that's double T You're
telling me that's an acceptable amount of distance right there?
I don't see you. I again, I would never do it.
But yes, yes, she would have to open the shower curtain and
stick her head out to look in his direction.
He can't reach it with a hand. He can't reach out of hand and
open up that curtain. Yeah, it's not like he can
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fucking gorilla tagger and just grab him out.
Yeah, I can't even come. Close.
Unacceptable. Al has a right.
Al has a right, by the way. For better or worse, that's the
worse. I bet you Kevin's been in the
shower and Motley took a hot fucking steamy 1.
He wouldn't fucking mind. We have 3 fucking bathrooms in
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this house you can find. If she came in and said hot one
in the chamber got a drop and would you fucking panic jump out
with no coal on 100% I would. I would fucking.
Sprint. Because I love my wife and I'm
attracted to my wife and I want to stay that way.
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Nope. Got to go see you later.
See, I have the problem. I have the problem in my
bathroom. It's not even like the
closeness. There's my wife.
She. Would never.
Never say never. Molly wrestling in bathroom.
Speaking of never. I wonder if the Juice saw the
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saw the the picture. I wonder if he knows.
Oh, boy. We're going to bring him in on
this now? Sure, why not?
He's part of the team. Yeah, but I'm sure he doesn't
want to fucking take the field for this one.
Well, I don't know what. He might have a different take.
He might be in a weird relationship.
He's from Pittsburgh. Who knows?
Yeah, Pittsburgh's a little fucked up.
They're like working class people.
They probably don't even. They probably just shit on the
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floor in the middle of the house.
I wouldn't know that. That's what I I just came back
from doing that. See, there we go.
So what? I don't know, I, I, I, what are
you guys? What are you guys discussing or
what did you want to brooch as a, you know, a part of the topic
that's unrelated to WCW? Although WCW was pretty shitty.
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So I'm not going to all right, I'll set it up all right, and
I'm not going to do the thing the double T says I do with the
twisting and all that kind of stuff.
So Brundle Fly waits until his wife takes a shower to go in
there. Take a shit.
It's a weird thing that they have in the.
Relationship I already. Did it?
I already did it, no. Wow.
All right. You know what?
Well played, Sir. Well played.
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I, I I can't even get mad at that.
So is there in any situation or circumstances where you find it
acceptable to go into a bathroomand shit while somebody else is
in the shower? We're talking about a a single
bathroom in your home. Right, right, right.
I think depending on trust level, anything's on the table.
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However, if you flush, you couldruin their shower, so you must
really like them. I can say for certain it can
get. Real cold.
The flush does not ruin our our shower.
Yep, same here. Well, well.
Different pipes. Well, we.
We're currently we're renting, so that that's something that we
got to be wary of. There we go.
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I like that. Now you and your significant
other, you guys taking shits in the bathroom together.
Yes, together at the same. Time.
What do you? Have a same time.
His wife is waffle stomping while he's fucking going to town
on the see. That's weirder than what's going
on in Brundlefly's house. You never Waffle stomped.
You never while you were showering.
All right there, Vito Junior. But no, I feel like it's a
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pretty normal in and out wait onthe other person.
I I bet the shower topic is interesting though, because you
get there is somewhat of you know, if you want the privacy if
you have to go. That's I think this all comes
down to if you really have to go.
And that's. Just like it it, you know, an
unstoppable force against the unmovable object, you better hit
your hell in the bathroom. But like I said, in our
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situation specifically, you might, you know, you gotta do
what you gotta do and then wait for the the water to shut off
and then, you know, hit the flush.
Wait. So you just like, leave it?
You just leave it in there like fucking bobbing up and down I
guess. I honestly don't.
I don't, yeah, that's what wouldhappen.
But I don't actually think it's happened.
But we've had it to where we've come in and not, you know, not
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doing a #2 but you're still utilizing the toilet.
But if you flush it could, you know, cause a cold shower,
therefore hold off, you know, shut the lid if you're
interested in that stuff or not.I don't know.
I'd probably I'd probably be flushing on my wife a lot more
if that was the case. Fair.
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Flushing on my wife. What?
I'd be flushing on my wife, he says.
You are fucking sick. I done biscuits says it best.
Welcome to the shitting Wizards podcast.
True Prince of pro. Also I guess a Pittsburgh
native, he says. I mean, we do have a thing in
Pittsburgh called Pittsburgh Toilet, which is a Wallace
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toilet found in unfinished basements of some old
Pittsburgh's homes, but I don't got how anyone could use them.
Well, I, I tell you this much, Imet like the owners that owned
my house like back in the 50s and the bathroom that's down
here in the basement was considered the men's bathroom.
So it kind of makes sense. Like if that was the thing, like
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the ladies had the upstairs powder room and the men had the
downstairs bathroom. Men don't give a shit.
Put it in the middle of the fucking room.
Whatever. As long as it fucking drank.
Yeah, as long as it goes to the sewer line, who gives a shit?
Literally. Who takes a shit man?
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Never a dull moment when I come in here, I I got to tell you it.
Just always works out that way. Juice.
Always something about the juice.
Yeah, that's something about me and that's for sure.
Oh, if you had a shit in front of your significant other, would
you would you yell look out, thejuice is loose.
Well, that would be if I had, you know, gone to maybe Taco
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Bell beforehand. It's loose.
See, I would do that. A fucking wet diarrhea sounds
like a duck quacking shit. I got I'd be down for that.
I got a bidet upstairs, so if I got the fucking Rhea, if I get
that Rhea Ripley's I can fucking.
Hold them off. Yeah, that's next level.
The bidet is. The Rhea Ripley's that's.
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Pretty good writing that down. It's funny on 2 levels it's
diarrhea and I sometimes you believe it, sometimes not.
Well, it always sounds like you're ripping one too, so I
think there's a third component or Ripley's, believe it or not.
Did you see what's in that toilet?
Oh my God, you're not helping us, Juice.
I'm trying to get us to help yousee Bluffy here as Jay's here.
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What a shit show. Literally these.
Tony can talk about shit all night.
Oh my God, can you quack? Wow, is that is that the video I
think you're talking about? Oh, you seem quite like a duck,
right? Yeah, that's so funny.
Goat and your mom. That's a classic.
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Get your shit on my ball can. You fart on my ball getting your
shit on my chest. Good luck.
No good luck. Good luck.
Very good rhyme. Oh my God, you Vince has that
fucking loop on his fucking eye.I'm doing great.
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We. Can take Johnny get in here, My
song is on. You know how behind the bar
we've been talking about shit for like 15 minutes and it's
like, hey, come here young lady,why don't you take a shower and
freshen up? And then he fucking sneaks in
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there. There's more where that came
from, sweetheart, Ha ha. Speaking of Vince, are we going
to see him on Saturday? I think they already said he's
not going to, he's not going to make it.
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Oh, it's a work. Come on.
They won't. There's no shot they show him.
Why not that? Doesn't mean he couldn't be
there. Oh, he'll be there.
And I don't think they necessarily have to show him for
him to happen to be in one of the camera shots.
I mean, I also think it would take away, I think a lot of the
crowd would notice he was there and go nuts.
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Well then maybe that's why sceneis going on 1st.
Is he really? I think scene is going on 1st
because that's what Hogan would do back in the day.
Brother. And like give a give a platform
to the other people, which I just want to know how everything
looks and not not necessarily ratings reviewers, but like how
things maybe taper off after Cena's, you know, probably hour
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long segment. I would laugh so fucking hard if
you just watch the entire rest of the show and people are just
filtering out the entire time. It's just tarp.
They just tarp the whole whole hard Cam.
Side Oh my God, it looks like the AWA Team Challenge series by
fucking hour 2. Oba, Femi and fucking Cody are
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fighting for a Turkey on a pole.The money those people paid,
they're fucking staying. I promise you that.
No, do you remember? Do you remember when Hogan went
on his Hulkamania tour and he wrestled the big show?
I want to say it was in Memphis and literally everybody filtered
in for that match and when that match was over, they all fucking
hit the road. I bet they didn't pay Saturday
nightmare event money for that. I'm sure they paid a pretty
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penny to see Hogan on his like tour or whatever, but still.
Just walk out the fucking door. Now I just need to know I'm
going to go on game time here. Game time?
What's that? It's a ticket app.
We'll see the lowest price I canfind.
Four O 8. I was discussing this with a
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fellow contributor to Shining Wizards, Kyle from the Apron
Bump and it is nuts. What the even highest, highest,
highest level tickets are at least 350 if not more for the
nosebleeds. No, I need about a tree fitting.
Speaking of, Kyle jumps in. Vince is the masked man.
Oh my God. He would have.
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Torn his quads as soon he got ontop of the cage.
This is what this is exactly howI felt.
When MB says it, you say he's not going to make it like he's
going to die before Saturday. That's exactly how I took it.
I thought I was like, oh, did somebody have them in the pool?
Not me so he could live till next year.
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No, it doesn't look like anyone had them juice.
I got to tell you, man, it was. It's been toilet time.
But now I think it's Vader time.close tank habit.
I can. Oh yeah, tank habit.
Yeah, so you brought up a pole match and I was like, hey, we
can transition into this tank habit.
Yeah, I fucked up. I'm I'm I'm I'm an R word
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racist. Yes.
Well that too, but that wasn't the R word I'm going for.
Fuck, I think I broke my bell. I mean, so regarding Tank
Abbott, I mean, what, what necessarily do you guys want to
have on the docket? Because I've got quite a few
thoughts on his whole run. So when he fucking tried to stab
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someone managing recount, you know fuck yeah dude, now, now.
Now I didn't cut holes for my nipples like tank did but.
Yeah, I. Don't ruin a good shirt for that
shit. Yeah, so I I have a question
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because I tank Abbott is is really just kind of far out
there in my world because true or not true.
All right, Juice is the number one expert regarding WCW on the
panel here, considered for a world title run when he when he
was brought in. I think that's I I wasn't there,
but I would wager that's more true than not considering as
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soon as he came in, much like now this as if I'm comparing the
two apples to apples. But just like the wall when he
came in, Tank Abbott was just like mowing people down and just
like beating everybody. And it was very conceivable that
he could have had, you know, a tidal reign.
If not, I don't know if it was necessarily like we're going to
let as soon as he comes in, we're going to book for this.
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But I mean, his first pay-per-view match was against
Jerry Flynn. So I don't know.
And it wasn't for the number onecontenders ship, you know.
Well, no. And didn't they?
Him and Jerry fought a couple times, didn't they?
I think they did, but on pay-per-view specifically is
what I was just referring to. Yeah.
Yeah, yeah. And he had three total WWE
pay-per-view matches, the other one being Super Brawl 2000, as
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it was referenced, against his former bodyguard, Big Al, in
which they cursed a lot. They were real snug with
punching each other. Tank Abbott gets a fireman's
carry on Al on the top rope, andthey, like, slip.
It almost kills him by, like, dumping him to the floor
directly, and then gets the It'sthe jacket on a pole.
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He takes the jacket, throws it on him, and then he brandishes a
knife. And it's like I could fucking.
Kill you, right? Now excuse to he.
Was going to give his beard as well, that's Tony, Chovani said.
That's what Tony said to try to cover up the obvious.
I have a knife and I'm going to stab this guy.
Someone should have called 911. The fact that Big Al didn't have
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a beard or any facial. Hair.
Or any hair at all really. It was bald.
There you go. It was crazy.
And the other pay-per-view matchI think was against Scott
Steiner. He team tanked teamed with Rick
Steiner and they both they lost Scott, but that was Scott's
ascension to the world title later on that year.
I do have other highlights. He he fought Van Hammer, David
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Arquette, Sid and he beat up Pittsburgh's own Mark Madden.
Mark Madden had it coming. Thank God.
That's David Arquette's only successful title defense when he
was the WCW World Champion. I mean, I I love the triple cage
at Slamboree 2000, regardless ofof David Arquette being
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involved, although I like I likethe swerve of it to him turning
on DDP. So yeah, go ahead.
The ultimate. I was going to say with with
with tank like he comes in right, he looks unstoppable.
He looks like a badass yeah potentially considered for you
know, in in that world title picture.
I mean obviously intimidating Looks like he could be the guy
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right? Looks like he could fuck
everybody if you wanted to, right?
Ever. Yeah.
Now, and I don't know, I don't know if this is to be true or
not true, but it is. Is it because of the family
friendly he comes from UFC that they decided to veer away from
potentially giving him that? That rocket shoved up his ass
and then turns him into 3 countsbitch because it's such a sharp
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turn and it's fucking weird. Talk to me, Juice.
Lay it. On it, it is weird and I think
you're probably on to something with the family friendly thing,
especially because I don't know the timeline of like, I know
when all these things happen, but I don't know when he came in
initially. Where was it derailed
immediately or did they still have world title aspirations for
him? And then he pulled a knife on
pay-per-view and they were like,I don't know if we can do this
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anymore. And they probably looked at him
and felt he's pretty limited as a quote pro wrestler, a huge
traditionally an MMA guy. And this is not, you know, a
Brock situation or Kurt Angle oror, you know, any of these guys
coming in doing MMA or what haveyou.
Tank was just straight up, I'm going to, I'm just going to beat
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your ass Like he he was not yourin a sense, traditional
wrestler. And you, you know, you kind of
downplayed the three count thing, but I kind of loved it.
I loved him being clearly biggerand better than all three of
those guys. And he could beat all their
asses if they wanted to. And I don't know, it was like a
unique dynamic. I, I am a three count fan, so I
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like that little wrinkle. I, it is what it is.
I mean, they found something forhim that I felt was still
entertaining. It was funny to me, but I could
see where, you know, maybe he's,I don't know if he felt
emasculated by that. Has he ever done any shoot
interviews talking about being the three count like manager?
I'm sure he does, but it's probably full of CTE at this
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point. That's the other thing, Yeah.
I don't know how how far along he was in that journey back in
99 two thousand, but very uniquerun, for lack of a better term,
Like you had your Goldbergs and and Sid and Steiners and these
hard ass tough guys at that time.
And I just I don't know if it ever would have been able to
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work. Like let's say they gave him a
world title opportunity. I just I couldn't I couldn't see
him working a match effectively enough to where like Goldberg
didn't couldn't wrestle, you know, a lot, but he did enough
in the pro wrestling sense to where he could pass it off.
I don't think tank Abbott could have done that, to be honest
with you. He's too big of a shoot guy.
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He would have just thought everymatch was reeled up.
Well, I'm I'm going to stay champion.
As a matter of fact, he's. Going to cut everybody's beards.
Yeah. He's got a fucking several wins
over the great Muda that really like chaps my ass.
Tell me about it was 2000 great Muda.
It's different. It's not 89.
Still the fucking great Muda. Yeah, I know, I know.
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God what a fucking fever dream. ICP, Great Muda and Vampiro
against Three Count and Tank Abbott.
It's a main event anywhere. And is and is.
I can't. I don't.
I can't even believe that the Juggalo Championship Wrestling
Heavyweight title was defended on Nitro in 2000.
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Forbidden door, baby. Vampiro and Tank Abbott went to
a no contest. Wow.
I mean, I it's, it's crazy even bringing up like JCW and they're
like totally having like ATV show now and they're kind of
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fully going invested in like a like a company with a program.
It's not just random shows at the Gathering.
I kind of find it fascinating, especially they got Vince Russo
on board. Maybe Tank Abbott's going to
show up. OK, would you have bet you would
you have bet for a JCW like a comeback before a WCW comeback
here Juice? No it's funny though you say
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that because I I had brought up on Twitter a few times that like
after watching Survivor Series war games that even after so
many you know you had a lot of good stories in the last couple
of WWE based war games. It is so abhorrently clear that
AE WS, Blood and Guts is a better representation of the
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NWAWCW war games than WW ES version of war games and it's
like not even close. Yeah, it's been nice to have any
on juice. I mean, he's not wrong.
I was going to say, is that a hot take?
What are we doing here? Kevin doesn't like AW at all.
That's fine. You don't have to like the the
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company to to realize that bloodand guts is so much more, you
know, comparatively speaking, more accurate to an like WWE war
games, especially like the 9192 versions than it ever was with
the WWE ones. I mean, and I get it, like it's
not going to be the same everywhere, but but I was
bringing that up to side point how WCW like I brought that up
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and someone was like, Oh well, look like how could you be mad
at WWE because they brought backwar games and they have like
these entities that have been revived like Great American Bash
and Starrcade. And I'm like that's great and
all but it's just the name like Halloween Havoc.
They did the wheel that was likecool, but I don't know.
You can't bring back WW like there's A and and if we can
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actually transition that into the Rey Mysterio thing just.
Holding up, I was just. Going to ask.
You that when when WWE wins the war and they have this, they've
done this forever. WW is less than it's undersold.
It was never good. They Rey Mysterio was never a
star there. Get the fuck out of here.
It's insane that that was when Iread that.
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Yeah, I know. But that's what they did to hear
that now after they've celebrated Sting and all these
things and to say it like for Rey Mysterio, I do want to quote
a line from another famous Khan when he said there's room for
only one Khan in pro wrestling. Well when you know the history
like Tony does and saw Rey Mysterio in ECW, he knew
probably that there was a star to behold, not Nick Khan who was
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a completely oblivious to the psychosis matches and the Eddie
matches and the Kevin Nash giantbeating matches.
Like he was a star. He was a star.
Like he didn't have to be in themain event picture, world title
picture like Deborah to be made him to be for him to be a star.
So I just thought that was an insane comment.
What they say, they put the world title on him.
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All he did was lose. Lose the Mark Henry to great
colleague to all these people. The that well, those are your
WWE like classic types of guys, your market, like the the huge
heavyweight, the giants and likehe's beating Kevin Nash.
He you know, he it was so much more unique for him.
Even the mask coming off or whatever.
But the filthy animals were a very popular team.
(30:00):
Like Rey Mysterio was incrediblyover WCW.
Like I don't care. Animals were shit.
Do not. You're out of your.
Fucking mind juice like you're great but you're out of your
fucking mind. A filthy animals were absolute
trash. What's Ray and?
Mia from the Hall of Fame. Hey, hey, OK Disco with the with
(30:21):
the SQ at the end that was not necessary.
Disco inferno didn't need to be there.
But Conan cause like Conan too Conan at the forefront of the
Wolfpack. I think he was more overdoing
that than he ever was as like Mexican heavyweight champion
when he first came in, beating one man cast, hey.
What? What did Conan call everybody
(30:42):
else? He had.
He had a strawberry. Strawberries.
Muchos matos locos forever. So yeah, I, I, I thought that
was great to hear Nick Ron say that.
You tuned in to Nitro and the pay per views to see the Rey
Mysterio, the Psychosis, the Ultimate Dragon, the Dean
Malenko match is like you stayedfor the shitty shitty WCW main
(31:05):
events. Boy.
Were those those like that Ray Eddy match might be the greatest
Halloween match ever, a Halloween Havoc?
I think it's, I think it's arguably WCW's greatest match
that they ever put on. And you put it perfectly.
The fact that at the same time when WWE would have who knows
and the undercard and you get these incredible 45 minute main
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events with stories and everything on the other channel,
you're getting 2 1/2 hours of amazing wrestling.
Your, your cruiserweight action and they begin Nitro, they begin
pay per views and then you'd geta convoluted main event.
So you pick your poison there. But again, to, to kind of just
say that Rey Mysterio never had anything like that when he was
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in WCWI just think it's short sighted.
And I'm, I'm sure if Nick Khan ever even watched WCW, to be
honest with you, I think it was just an easy way to take a cheap
shot because that's what Triple H probably told him to say.
It's just a weird thing to say in 2025, too.
Well, like, don't you know facts?
Like was he offended even? Like it's 'cause I just don't
think it's true subjectively. There's I've he was part of the
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Nitro like like when they rolledout, like the big signs of bus
stops, like his like silhouette,like flying through the air was
part of the the marketing promotion.
Yeah, and he. Had Tony Kahn no fucking Rey
Mysterio. Junior you're.
Racist. Big giant pair of eyes only.
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And and his teeth, because he's fucking grinding them all.
Oh, damn it, Tony. Wrinkled suit.
You know we're bringing back thenational title.
Tell them all about it, Tony. He blinked too much.
Sorry, we have. We have a special guest joining
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us in a couple minutes. We have the yete.
Wow, really? You have Ron Reese coming on.
Two of Ron Reese coming on in about 12.
Minutes Wow, look at you guys. That's a that's the biggest,
That's the largest guest you've ever got, unless you got the.
(33:18):
We had Mabel. Follows on him.
We had Mabel. Yeah, maybe we had Mabel.
I mean, if you're talking you. Know Oh yeah, I'm talking, I'm
talking size, yeah, I mean, and.And you're going to you're going
to ask him about the pause. You're going to ask him about
the Super giant ninja phase? Yes, I have a lot of questions
for him actually. Oh, I'm.
(33:39):
I cannot wait to watch that. I'm.
Very excited for. It such a bizarre turn for for
that for that character. I mean, but they have it for
him. But.
It it's it was weird that he wasn't really in WCW for that
long, but I have like I he's resonates with me.
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Like I remember the Yeti. He resonates with you.
Oh my God, Grundo, please he he retires with you.
Oh my. God is your density.
(34:23):
Wow, it's going to be fucking amazing.
I was doing you know what, chicken butt.
No, I'm just, I'm just going to,I'm not even going to make up an
excuse. I'm just an idiot.
You would think in 14 years I would know to slow down and not
try to do like 6 things at once,but I'm just an idiot.
(34:45):
That's it. I have no defense.
I'm an idiot. Hard word.
Yes, I might be retarded. Jesus, you have to come out and
say it. But yeah, Yeti might what super
giant ninja wreaths Is that the only three gimmicks that he had
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he. Was a big John Studd's kid,
Yeah. Wait, oh big Ron stud I forgot
about about that. Wow, how can I forget about that
run? Right it.
Was very short, yeah. That's exciting, though.
That's a hell of a get. Well, he's not here yet, so.
You got to you're going to ask him if he's got a deal with the
(35:29):
there to be Legends lines so we can get a Yeti action figure.
I don't think he needs to. He just released one.
What do you mean? For a second, do you want to
talk to Ron Reese too? Oh it doesn't matter to me if
you if you have room for me. If not, it's OK.
I could ask the question in the chat but I just what do you mean
(35:51):
he can release one on his own? The correct answer would have
been absolutely Sir, come. On well, I don't want to I don't
want to just horn in if you guysare.
Horn, I want a horn in. You're here.
Juice, you're our WCW guy. Juice is feeling horny, Hang out
for a minute. You don't have to stay full
time. Sure, bring in the.
Bring in Mr. Reese. The yetis in the house.
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No. You said I hit the wrong button.
I hit the wrong button. There we go, the yetis in.
The house I have my parking on because it's very cold.
The greatest moment in the history of this great sport You.
(36:38):
Know that I'm officially the owner of the Dungeon of Doom
now. Everyone else has passed away.
I'm the last surviving member soI have the ownership of it now.
I didn't even realize. Oh.
God, that that's true. I mean, it's really morbid, but
that's true. I've often thought I'm going to
open up a barn, just call it theDungeon of Doom and just be
(36:59):
like, hey guys, come on. I would go there 100%
Absolutely, absolutely. Would it be located in Parts
unknown? Oh yes, well, you'd have to like
park in a parking lot and we'd come and pick you up and then
put a put over you and then. Oh my God, 100% down for this
Ron 100%. Will there?
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Be no Hulk of maniacs there. Where's the Hulk of maniacs?
No. Yellow and black brother, yellow
and red. And the only way that you could
get there is on a monster truck,because that's all we drive
here, you know? Wow.
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You know, that's The funny thing.
And look, I'm not trying to downplay the Yeti or anything,
but if you look at that whole pay-per-view, it was just so
bizarre. And then all of a sudden people
were like, yeah, but the Yeti character is like, wait a
second, you mean to tell me likethis other shit didn't like,
throw red flags earlier in the flag?
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Ron, we're we're 30 years beyondHalloween Havoc.
Did you ever think in your wildest dreams that you would
still be talking about the Yeti?Absolutely not.
And I I know like guys, I used to hang out with Glacier and
Chris Canyon and they're like, man, you're going to live this
infamous for life. And I was just thought it was a
joke. And now every once in a while
(38:25):
someone comes back and goes crazy for the Yeti and it's just
like, wow, wow. Wow, I'm I'm.
I'm funny though, because it is a Halloween show.
It made sense, though, to have ahuge mummy.
Did it really? Come out.
Yeah. I thought so.
Come on. You know, I was in my son was
(38:48):
getting a grill the other day atLowe's and I was in there and
they had the giant, the Yeti from the not the Toy Story, but
what is that one that. Abominable Snowman.
You've been abominable, snowman.I'm like, wow, maybe I should
just get one of these from my front yard and see if anybody
can get the sarcasm. You know.
Oh, that. 'D be incredible.
Oh my God, do people in your neighborhood know you as the
(39:09):
Yeti? Not at all.
Not at all. They know you as super giant
ninja. Yes, well, you know, they know I
have super like you know, I slipout the bat cave through the
bottom and go out to the Legion of Doom and parts on the.
What what what goes through yourhead when they're like, hey,
we're going to wrap you up like a mummy and call you the Yeti.
(39:32):
And then a couple weeks later, like, Nah, you know what?
We're going to pivot. We're going to make you a ninja.
Like do you just? I hate to say this, but I was so
young and new to the business. I was just happy they were
calling me, you know? No, no, I I get that.
But like in in the back of your head, are you like not too sure
about this one. You know, I, I didn't see the
(39:52):
long term in it, but who's that,you know?
Look, I, I tell everyone though that I think that the Yeti was
like the equivalent of winger toNirvana, right?
Like, so after the Yeti died out, you know, we got into the
realism of the NWO where, you know, you had to have that
(40:15):
really bad band before to turn everyone into grunge.
You know, at least that's what I'm trying to say.
You know, trying to get out. And then it was.
The butterfly effect to start the MWO.
You, you think about it like 6 months later and then Hogan was
like, look, I mean, I can't do this shit anymore, right?
(40:39):
It was very getting very childish this stuff, you know, I
mean very what, not even PG13 but just regular G rating.
I mean, you know, there was nothing too crazy going on.
Yeah, but I think that's, I think that is the, I think
that's what we loved about it, right.
Like even now, like when the WWEvault drops, like all the
(41:00):
Dungeon of Doom vignettes, it's like, this is fucking awesome.
I've smoked today. My favorite is like Sullivan
(41:22):
would go in and out, like, Oh yes, I understand, and flip his
eyes back and it's just like, what are we doing here?
Guys, it was. It was, yeah.
It was so much fun though, man. It was so much fun looking back
on that stuff. I remember Hugh Morris.
It was Hugh Morris and me and myself and the one man gang and
(41:48):
we were at the hotel and the hotel came and picked us up like
in a rental van, like one of those 60 passenger vans and like
took us to the Dungeon of Denim.And I'm just like, wow, this is
I'm going to the Dungeon of Denim.
Top in the world? Man, yeah, I thought it was
going to be some great thing. And it's like some studio.
(42:09):
I was like, wow, this is yeah, OK.
There's no Hulk of maniacs here.You know, I'm just waiting for
someone to ask me like, hey man,where was that place?
We go there. I'm like, it's not a physical
address. It's a, you know, it's a state
of mind. Right.
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Holy shit you fucking love it. So you're so Ron.
You're claiming responsibility for the NWO.
So you know what, I'm going to claim a lot of things today.
OK, first of all. OK, so we can also blame we can
blame you for Triple H too then,right?
Yeah, so I'm taking 100% credit for triple HS career.
Everything that he's ever done, 100% has to come through me.
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And you know what's weird is I did not know this, but he was on
a podcast and told everyone thatI'm responsible for it.
I heard they came to see you andthey saw him and now, now we
have to deal with him. They were like, holy shit, this
big guy's terrible. I think we might be able to use
him as a Yeti. But this guy, we can make a
(43:14):
Prince from France and he'll be awesome.
And his finishing move will be the curtsy.
But then we'll change that into the guillotine, right?
So actually they saw me and theygo, hey, just send the guy down
to the dungeon and Doom for a couple years and we'll bring him
(43:34):
back. He's Doom, he's dungeon worthy.
Go ahead, just send him off. Dungeon.
Worthy. I love it.
This guy to the flock now. Yes, by the way, we had a great
flock reunion last week at Russell Cave.
It was unbelievable. I believe everyone was there.
(43:54):
We got some great pictures. Everyone's looking good, a
little bit older but still looking great.
Did did sick boy show up? Sick boy was here.
Sick boy looks phenomenal and hewas great.
Oh wow, a little vicious heat there, right?
He was he was going to be on ouranniversary show 2 weeks ago and
(44:17):
then he didn't show up. He ghosted me.
Well, did you tell me you know the Yeti?
I'm not now I will, OK. I mean.
You know, you tell him that you know, you know the Yeti.
Maybe I'll take him to the Dungeon of Doom and we can have
a good time. You think Sick Boy would fit in
the Dungeon of Doom? He's put on a couple pounds.
(44:38):
Not like that. I mean, like, you know, I don't
know, what would his bunch of Doom character been?
You know, I don't know. Yeah, he'll fit in somehow.
We'll get him. He's really a good guy.
Hey, Ron, let me ask you becausewe had this conversation earlier
because somebody on. This you guys, What have you
been talking about for 40 minutes before me?
(45:00):
Oh, we're getting into that right now.
He's got a story for you, Sir. Oh God I hate to hear that.
The party's starting and I wasn't invited till the end.
Well, we we'll catch you up. We'll.
Catch you up somebody. I got a story for you guys
though before we go. OK, awesome.
We're not getting ready yet. All right, good.
Somebody on the show had an emergency and had to take a dump
(45:24):
while his wife was in the shower.
Acceptable or unacceptable? Do you take a dump in the shower
or in the toilet in? The toilet, No, I didn't like
pull the curtains and say out ofthe way.
Yes. I mean, I didn't know.
I mean, I think that's fine. I mean, did you try?
(45:46):
I would have just sort of tried to ninja in because I am a
ninja, slide in and get it and then get out, right?
There we go, I'll remember that for the next time, Super Ninja.
Tell them, hey ninja powers comeon in hit it you know now do you
have old plumbing or new plumbing?
Because if you have an old plumbing, when you flush the
(46:08):
water will get cold right? So you.
Got it. Is new new plumbing Don't.
Talk about it then. You're 1,000,000 bucks.
Yeah. So.
Well, you know what? I'm going to be honest with you.
It really doesn't matter whetherit's right or wrong.
What did your wife think? She loved it.
I. Don't think.
She loves As long as your wife'scool with it, then everything's
(46:28):
good, she says. Come on back big boy, anytime
she didn't have to buy potpourrifor a month.
She's. Probably just happy she didn't
have to clean anything up. Oh.
Yeah, that's true. Yeah.
The Watch. Somebody's new.
(46:50):
Plumbing's you know, you got theglass shower doors and stuff.
It can be an. Entirely.
Different story. Don't have that, no.
And we were talking about Tank Abbott juice juice below you is
he does he does the juice box. He has his own podcast, but he
comes on every couple weeks to hang out with us and talk WCW.
(47:10):
Juice box in the house? We thought it was right.
About Tank Abbott, he was one ofthe most amazing guys because
when you look at him and I'm youto look, he does not he never
looked like that great of an athlete, right.
But he would come into the powerplant and he would get up, just
walk up, start benching five O 5for 10's and then get out and go
(47:35):
run 4 miles and then come back. And it was like, this guy looks
like he should be out mowing thelawn drinking beers.
But he's a straight, stone cold,phenomenal shaped killer, right?
That's what I loved about the early days of UFC, like when
there were no weight restrictions, there were no
limits. You'd get a bunch of like, for
lack of a better term, like justbeer brawlers, and those were
(47:57):
some of the toughest guys in theUFC.
He literally looked like he worked at a nightclub the night
before and then he was like, oh,I'm I need Thursday night off.
I got a UFC fight, OK? Hey, have a good time.
Man, so let me ask you this. I know, I know that he was
involved with Recount. We were talking about that
earlier, but was it your idea for him to go to the ring with a
knife and try to cut Big AL's beard?
(48:19):
I can't take credit for that. No, I can take credit for a lot,
but I cannot take credit for that.
One thing not on the list we got.
Cross that one off. I cannot take credit for that.
I, I want to know it's, it's, I've thought about this for a
long time. So you had your match with with
Chris Benoit and they face they basically used that match as
(48:43):
Chris Chris Benoit's entrance video.
Like, did you ever see that and be like, hey guys, the guy
motherfucker had other matches like he, he.
Wrestled motherfucking. People.
I look, I was just so I went to Japan, I came back and this was
like I was getting my second birth at WCW and I went on.
It was that Hog Wild tour where you went up to Sturgis and stuff
(49:07):
and they, they, it was really weird on that tour because it
was not like before where you just got a rental car.
This was like they had buses andcertain hotels that we stayed at
because of of the limited space up there.
So I'm on this whole entire tour.
Everything's going great. And then we get to have Monday
Nitro and out of the blue they just come up and go, hey, you
got Benoit tonight. I'm like, OK, Grant, they're
(49:28):
like, hey, can you take the superplex off the top?
And at this point, you know, anything I, I felt like I had
two strikes against me. I'm like, hell yeah, I can.
And I remember I ran and found Jody Hamilton and Dwayne Bruce
Sarge and was like, hey, what the Hell's a superplex and how
the hell do I take it off the top?
Holy. Shit.
(49:49):
And they're like, well, you know, just tuck your head and
just hope you land flat. I was like, OK, cool, thanks.
And that was the rest of it, youknow, just OK, let's do it.
That's wild. Yeah, and believe it or not,
gravity still worked up there and I hit that map pretty damn
(50:12):
hard. I want to go chat here quick.
But that's when I was the I started to be the guy.
So if you were facing the the giant at the pay-per-view, you
beat me on Thursday night. So everyone was like, holy shit,
man, this guy might have a chance against the giant.
(50:32):
And then the giant would squash you in 10 seconds.
Tropicale wants to know if you have any fun Big John Studd
stories? You know what, John and I spent
a lot of time together, but we never really got to hang out and
hang out because he got cancer really quick after we got
(50:55):
together. But I was very excited to get in
with him and be partners with him.
And we were supposed to be the giant machines, the new age
giant machines. Wow.
But it always was great seeing John Studd and he had Andre the
Giant's hair and just blew my mind that how crazy that was
(51:16):
back in the day when they shavedAndre's head.
Wait, so he like kept lockets ofAndre's hair?
He had a bag of Andre's hair that, yeah, they used to walk
around with. And it was like, hey, here you
go. Talk about like the ultimate,
you know, things still, right? The people would.
People will go crazy for that. So somebody right now has Andre
the Giant's DNA in like a zip lock bag.
(51:39):
Yeah, you're thinking, what was the movie with the dinosaurs?
Oh my God, Jurassic Park. Jurassic Park 2.
All the dinosaurs are Andre. Yeah, how about the peanuts?
(52:02):
They all turn into Fezic. Yeah, that would be a pretty
good. I'm surprised someone has.
Well, now someone's going to make that movie.
You could take credit for it. Yeah, I'll take credit for you.
It's a shame, WWE. Whoever hears this movie, I want
to be executive producer. Then you can have the whole
idea. Hell yeah and watch the shit out
of that movie. Right.
(52:24):
So Ron, you turn like, how did you?
Because I know you ended up in abunch of films too.
Was that was that thanks to yourprofessional wrestling career?
Or was it because of the gargantuan of a man that you
are? I want to say 5050, my last
movie, The Unbreakable Bunch, one of the greatest movies of
all time. I mean, this is an Academy
(52:46):
Award-winning movie. Please go out and watch it.
Ernest the Cat, Miller's on it. Stan the Man, Hansen, Let's see,
Glacier's on there. Luther Biggs is on there.
Haku is on there. A great movie.
I mean, it is Academy Award ready to be won.
(53:07):
So please go out and watch this thing.
You you had. By the way, I'm completely
lying. It is not.
But it's it's halfway entertaining for 45 minutes.
Too bad it's an hour movie. But 45 minutes?
Did you have to do any scenes with that?
That hack? Larry Zabisco, you motherfucker.
You know, yeah, he he was in there and he did a good job.
(53:30):
But The funny thing is I had, ithad been a while since I've
thrown a working punch and I getdown there like, Oh yeah, here's
the big fight scene and you're supposed to punch Haku.
And I'm like, oh shit, man, if Islip this one in and when this
starts, it's not going to be good, right?
Like, God, why can't I accidentally hit somebody else?
(53:50):
And Haku was great and the the scene was great and everything
worked out. But I'm like, man, that would
really suck just to potato this guy for no reason and have him
just destroy me. But I'm taking credit that I did
beat up Haku in the movie. I beat up everybody in the
movie. Gang grills in the movie.
I beat him up Ernest the Cat, Miller.
(54:11):
I left everyone land. You got to come see the sequel
and see me rocket in the sequel.Was this, was this the same one
that Shannon Tweed was in? Did you fuck her up too?
No, that was enough, man. That was the Hulk Hogan movie.
You know all these great genre movies mixed up, man.
(54:31):
Got you if you heard. That was like one of the top
movies, rated movies on TNT, which doesn't say much, but I
always thought that was hilarious.
It's one of the top ranked movies.
I'm like, wow, people will watchanything.
Along with other programming on TNT.
(54:51):
The best part about it was I could never take Hogan serious
because he had hair in that thing and I was like, whoa,
that's really trippy, right? You don't like his wig in Three
Ninjas? Well, so my death scene in that
is, is I pick up Hogan, I press slam him, I throw him down, then
I go to roll a car on top of him.
(55:13):
Then I go to look to see if he squished and lo and behold, he's
not there. And then he jumps on my back and
breaks my neck. He no sold the car.
No. Sold the car, right?
That didn't work for him, brother.
That was not a light car that I rolled over.
This was not like a Pinto. This was like at least a Ford
Taurus or something. I put.
(55:33):
My back into. It.
They say you got me, brother. Just.
Listen here dude, all the Hulk of maniacs are going to be
pissed. Are are you?
Saying let me ask you guys a question.
You got you guys, obviously big wrestling fans.
I liked that Hulk Hogan went to the NWO, but I was sort of
(55:54):
hoping that he would stay. When he turned heel, he would
have been more of a heel by himself because I thought when
he was with the NWO he was like too cool.
But if he would have gone by himself, he would have been like
more of a chicken shit. He'll like a Nick Bockwinkle or
stuff like that back in the day.I mean, he kind of was in a way
(56:17):
with the NWO. But yeah, there was that
coolness factor. But I think I think it's a
product of the time. So like Steve Austin never
intended to be a face. It's just that he did a lot of
things that resonated with people, but he was a no good.
Like he would put like 316 in your buddy's pager.
I just aged myself like 100 years.
But you would put 316 in there and then your buddy would get
(56:40):
the page and you like start beating up on like.
Yeah, like even even when he waschasing after the Rock, like he
did the same thing, he said. I'm going to page into 316 so
you know your ass whipping's coming.
Like, I mean, that's everyone did that.
Yeah. They threw the belt into the,
what was it into the river like that was, Yeah.
And by the way, I only know thisbecause I was working for WCW at
(57:01):
the time when we were all in theback watching it on TV.
So was everybody else. Yeah, So what?
So what? Was that like?
Secret ever, right? What what was that time like
just being there and like the the constant battle back and
forth and the counter programming and everything.
Like, what was it like to be around that stuff?
It was awesome. It was everyone.
(57:22):
You had a real sense of urgency that your stuff mattered.
I came in, started in 95 and times were rough and wrestling
at that time, we were giving out, you know, if you wanted
tickets to one of our shows. It wasn't like here's a seat
here. It wasn't even like here's a
row. It's like here's a section man,
go bring all your friends. What's the NWO hit?
(57:45):
It was like tough times man. You like, hey, you can't just
bring in a buddy. You got to like have an 8 game
person to bring in to get these seats.
I mean, it was sold out every single night.
It was that good. I mean, it was really, I mean,
think back. I mean, you know, I used to
travel with Scott Norton and unbelievably, there was some guy
(58:06):
that would follow us in our rental car leaving with the NWO
music every night. We had to like ditch them.
People were taking like so serious, right?
Can you imagine getting you and Scott Norton in a car and you
try and follow you and get you guys upset?
Well, the good thing is we it's going to take us 10 minutes to
get out of the car to beat you up.
(58:34):
I was going to ask how do you feel?
How was it working with Another Juice in 98 with Huvin to
Guerrera on pay-per-view? It was good.
They sort of, I guess he took off his mask and they decided
that for that I was going to have to do the job.
And it was good. I mean, I got to take a her, her
(58:56):
Khurana, which was good and someother stuff and got to show that
I had maybe a little more depth and just the big bump at the
end. So it was good.
Do you ever go back and watch some of your stuff or is that?
No, not really. OK, You know what?
It's weird. I live like a really.
I work a full time job and I spend time with my son and my
(59:19):
daughter and my wife and family and coach a little basketball on
the side and I'm just like a normal guy.
But I have this like past it's like.
Legendary. You guys will never leave me
alone. I can't go anywhere and.
And you know what I think, And Ithink that's great because you
left a lasting impression on allof us.
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And then I go back and I'm looking like you have like a cup
of coffee in WCW. But it was so memorable between
the Yeti and being part of the Flock.
Like that will forever be ingrained in every wrestling
fan's brain if they grew up during that era.
Yeah, the Yeti gets me carte blanche.
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I get moved into the VIP sectionso.
You do you still have all the suit?
What was the outfit like? You know what?
It was just literally, I showed up, they wrapped, I had long
Johns on, and they wrapped me inthe stuff from the training
realm and that was it. The best part about it is they
(01:00:23):
put me in this. So they wrapped me up all the
stuff I can barely see and I'm not moving too well.
I never really moved that great anyhow.
And then they go, all right, hey, we're going to do this
explosion and all this fire stuff.
And I'll never forget. Paulendorf goes, hey, if you
catch on fire, just drop and roll and then we'll like put you
out. I'm thinking what?
The fuck? Yeah, be kidding.
(01:00:45):
Words of wisdom from Mr. Wonderful Stop.
Yeah. I'm thinking, yeah, like after
you beat the hell out of what's his name?
Oh, God, You know the guy, you're kicked the shit out of
him. You're going to kick the shit
out of me and tell everyone thatyou're just trying to put me out
of fire, on fire, right? Leon White, you know.
Vader. Yeah, you beat up Vader.
You're going to beat me up and tell everyone you're just trying
(01:01:06):
to put out the fire? No, I'm not doing that.
Crazy, man. How did I have to ask?
Because how did you become part of the Ricky Dozen Memorial
Show? They just called and said, you
know what? See, my whole entire career is
other people getting sick and not being able to make the
(01:01:29):
shows. I just show up.
OK. Who got sick?
There's some guy from the West Coast that that couldn't make
the show. And they said, hey, man, we know
another big guy. And I flew out for it.
And I want to let you know, here's another thing that I'm
claiming is I think that I mighthave had one of the greatest
weeks in professional wrestling.I pinned Hashimoto, and then I
(01:01:53):
flew back and I tapped out DustyRhodes all within one calendar
week. I want someone else to tap, tap
the top That right? Yeah.
The problem is only like 500 people saw both of these, so it
was not really also. According to the cage match, you
(01:02:14):
also went to a no contest with Abdul the Butcher.
Oh yes, I did, yes. Wow.
They brought somebody in to likedo the blade for me because I,
it wasn't that I wasn't going todo it, but they're like, Oh no,
we really want like 3 guys to get bladed.
And I was like, OK, they broughtthree guys in and they're like
attacked. And I was like, OK, cool, yeah,
(01:02:36):
hey. It's got to be great.
Have you, Have you, have you shown your kids any of your
appearances in WCW video games? Because I would think that would
be a huge. Deal.
Yeah, I know he likes my son. I have one son.
Great kid, loves the video games.
(01:02:57):
Not really into wrestling like has, just doesn't get it.
Which is fine. He just doesn't resonate with
him either at all. But it's it's still kind of
cool, like dad's in a video game, like.
Yeah, You know, that's when I knew that I had to get out and
get a real job as I was in Ingles, which is a grocery store
down here, and they had the video game was like 2 for $5 in
(01:03:20):
the discontinued bin. I'm like it's time to get a job
but. I I tell you what, though, the
WCW revenge game like part of like that entire series of
games, those are still so. Good.
Revered when it comes to like wrestling video games.
Yeah, it was really good. And you know what?
(01:03:40):
That was like the first video game.
So they came and were like, hey,you got to stick around and take
pictures for video games. And everyone's like, what?
Come on, man. No way.
And they took him like 30 minutes to do it and everyone
didn't piss him on, but it was just, you know, like, what a
drag. And then you got a check for
like 15 grand. Six months later, you're like,
(01:04:01):
holy shit, you know, always 30 minutes anywhere for a. 15 grand
check. You know the video.
Game was really good. They sent you the video game and
you're like, well this is reallycool, man.
Cutting edge, right? So you got paid 30K an hour to
take pictures? Yeah, dude, I mean set me up for
a 40 hour week man. Come out.
(01:04:24):
Yeah, and Raven was like, yeah bro, you guys can all leave,
don't worry about it. I'll take.
That cover, yes, part of the flock fee, right?
Raven on the It's WCWNWO Revenge.
It's Goldberg, Hogan, Nash and Raven.
Yeah, I hope he got a good checkfor being on the cover though.
That thing sold a lot too, right?
(01:04:45):
Yeah, that entire series sold millions of copies.
Yeah, was he gonna? I think that was the smartest
thing WWF did was they they managed to pull that company
away and start making the WWF games, which also sold like
crazy as well. I just remember I was very like,
very. Was was Raven at the gathering
(01:05:13):
this weekend? Or two weeks ago, as a member of
the flock, I can't go anywhere without Raven.
He has to be there. He's the one that led us out
there and told us, saw an autograph and we were like,
yeah, yeah, whatever, whatever. Have you have you gotten a?
Chance everyone was there exceptfor.
Sick boy. Little Billy Kidman, No sick boy
(01:05:36):
said he was coming. This is Spy, you guys.
Little Billy Kidman. Well, Billy grew up right?
Yes, little Billy Kidman was, you know.
Hey, Billy, we don't care what you do in the match.
Just do the 420 splash at the end and we'll be all right.
OK. Hey, thanks.
Show us and show us some of themthem nudie pictures of Tori.
(01:05:59):
Oh. Hey, he did.
He did. All right for himself.
Yes, he did. Did you Have you seen Raven's
new documentary? You know what I'm trying to get?
I'm trying to fit it into my very busy schedule.
But I will see it, yes. Someone on this panel thinks you
you were or are a pumpkin farmer.
Is that true? You know what it was?
(01:06:23):
I'm not a pump. I've grown pumpkins, but never
professionally. I grew pumpkins when my son was
younger and I thought it would be funny to put that on my
Wikipedia page. Wait a second, wait a second.
Wait, the Halloween Havoc connection?
Yeah, there you go. Didn't you?
Wasn't there some story on like fucking like, God, was that old
WWF like behind the scenes or Uncomfort or confidential?
(01:06:47):
Were you growing fucking pumpkins?
You a big pumpkin guy? Yeah, I think you are.
Well, yeah. I'll take credit.
For it all right. I went to, I went to like Home
Depot and they had like those giant pumpkins that you could
grow. And I thought it'd be funny to
grow them with my son. And then the pumpkins never grew
that big. And then someone asked me to do
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a Wikipedia page and I put in there that I was a pumpkin
farmer and I thought it'd be funny, but it never.
So you don't have your own pumpkin patch?
No, I currently I do not. But you never know right now.
I might start. The award-winning Pumpkins.
Yes. No visits from the Great
Pumpkin? Nope.
(01:07:29):
This is all very. Disappointing.
Very upset. I know, right?
Yeah. Something else that's not on the
list? Yes, and I think one time I put
on there that I was a professional sandcastle builder.
Oh my God, that's amazing. That's awesome.
But I travelled around and did competitions around the world
with sandcastle building, but I've never really.
(01:07:51):
You got it, you got it, you got to punch it up.
You need a picture of yourself in a Speedo on the beach, just
like with one of those buckets that's in the shape of a castle.
Well, no, I was going to do the Dungeon of Doom and have that
there as my leg build, right? Instead of a castle, the
dungeon, and then yeah, the Yetion top of it.
(01:08:11):
I'm sure in 2025 we can get somebody to make that happen.
At. Least like on a birthday cake or
something, right? That would rule hey.
You so. Cage match.
I don't know if you're familiar with the website Cage Match.
No. So like they.
Keep make me hip guys, help me out.
(01:08:33):
We're trying, would they keep track of all your matches and
stuff? Right, OK.
And all your alter egos and theydon't have any matches listed
under it, but it says one of your alter egos was the vanilla
gorilla. Oh, yeah.
So when I first started, I thought that if you were going
to get into wrestling, you had to have a cool name.
So I came up with a vanilla gorilla.
(01:08:54):
Whoops. And that was just the name that
I used when I was trying to break into wrestling, and
everyone thought it was a cool name.
And when you're tall and you have a cool name, everyone just
thinks that you're a professional wrestler.
So that's all I had really had. I couldn't work a lid, but I had
a cool name and I was tall. Was that more of a play on
Vanilla Ice or Magilla Gorilla? I'm a Gila gorilla.
(01:09:17):
Fuck yeah. Everyone thought I looked like
Donkey Kong and I was throwing barrels at little Mario.
So put that on the list you. So let me ask you guys some
questions. What do you guys normally talk
about on your podcast? Shitting while my wives are in
(01:09:38):
the shower. Pumpkin patches did.
You give a courtesy flush on theshit. 100%.
No, you did not. No, he didn't.
Yes, I did. No, you didn't.
You said you held a whole conversation.
It was. Fucking did you spray like a
little like potpourri stuff like.
Oh yeah, I have the potpourri spray that I.
Used for. So you.
Know what? Tell your wife that you talked
(01:10:00):
to the Yeti and the Yeti said itwas.
It wasn't the greatest day of your life, but you tried.
You should get points for that. I feel vindicated.
Yes, tell her if the Yeti approves it then there's not
much more else she can ask. For that's it, that's on the
way. We talk about wrestling.
We talk about if you should wearsocks in your house, Do you shit
(01:10:24):
with the door open? Have you ever washed your
underwear in a porta John? Stuff like that.
No, never in the porta John. Very scared of porta Johns.
I didn't even bring that up there.
Double T, yes, but you say I do my laundry in the porta John.
I shit my pants once and I had to clean them out.
Come on now, one time. No one time he had to use a one
(01:10:51):
time. One of the.
Time I am not the last wizard toshit their pants.
I'm just going to put that. OK.
Good that guy. I think he's next to you.
That guy actually shit the bed and let alone his pants.
He shit the bed next to his wifewhile she was.
Sleeping. No, no, she was not there.
She was not there for that one. Thank you.
Well, yeah, I mean, if she would, she would never be there
(01:11:13):
again, right? No.
Probably not. She knew better that night.
Yeah. What was I shouldn't a true?
Story Is it you eat something that night like you went out to
like a sushi buffet or. I don't know what it was, but
yeah, I had a real bad case of food poisoning that night.
OK, just. Right in the middle of the
night, just woke up and. So you know a storm was a Bruin.
(01:11:34):
Oh yeah, yeah. I shit my pants twice on
Christmas, different years. So proud.
It's like, it's like, it's like pulling #27 in the Royal Rumble.
Let me ask you guys a question for about the WWE.
(01:11:54):
How is John Cena's last match going to be?
I think. Is it worth tuning in?
Yeah, I think so. I think he loses to Gunther.
I think he I think he goes out giving Gunther the big win.
I think the Undertaker has to come in and pin him right,
because the Undertaker was the guy who had his first match,
right? So he can't have the first last
mask with anybody else except the Undertaker.
(01:12:17):
No, it would be Kurt Angle, right?
Kurt Angle. He was the 1st.
Guy. Was it Kurt Angle?
Yeah, You know, Undertaker gave him the first rub like he was in
the locker room, and he's like, good job, kid.
And he shook his. Hand like.
They were really giving John Cena the rub that night, yeah.
Well, I think, yeah, I don't know.
It should be interesting. I wish him all the luck, though.
I think he what? He's been there so long and done
(01:12:38):
all this. Yeah, but.
Drawn this thing out for so longso it needs to go.
Do you keep up with the current product at all?
Well I go to bed early so it's on late and I don't have
Peacocks so I can't really watchMonday night, but Friday nights
I usually watch something if there's not another sporting
(01:12:59):
event on. Now I had another we talked
about revenge and royalties for Raven.
Do you think, have you ever beenapproached about doing any sort
of merch or an action figure forany of the gimmicks you
portrayed? I have not and I am 100% open to
it please. You.
(01:13:20):
You should seriously reach out to like Matt Cardona, who
formerly Zack Ryder. And I saw him at the wrestle
cave. Those guys, not only like maybe
it wouldn't be with them, but they they are, they have their
own action figures. They know a lot about the figure
industry and whether they could get you contacts with a company
(01:13:40):
or even with like Mattel. And I don't know if you'd get a
Legends deal with that, but I think there'd be, they've been
doing a Monday Night Wars line of action figures.
Yeah. And I, I absolutely think
there's room for a Reese and or Yeti figure that people would
absolutely go crazy for. They've made shock masters.
They've made, they've made lesser important figures.
(01:14:03):
Like you're in the pantheon of WCWI think you're very
memorable. So I think there's room for
that. I think the Yeti for sure.
I have a gobbly cooker figure. Yeah, that's what I mean.
And they is an official like they actually made it and it was
a 2 pack with the undertaker. I absolutely think there's
there's room for that. And then especially if they sell
(01:14:24):
it, you could go, if you go to these conventions, that's
something you can sign. Well, look, I'm going to let you
guys know. Know anybody listening?
My e-mail address is ronreeseis72@gmail.com.
That's the official Dungeon of Doom e-mail address.
Go straight to the dungeon prettyeasyronreisreisis72@gmail.com.
(01:14:52):
Is the backup Ron's picking pumpkins at Gmail?
That dude, that's his family account Stop.
Oh my bad. Then they find out if Ron's
coming out for Christmas. They e-mail that.
So Ron, we, we've, we've been pretty open about us shitting
(01:15:14):
our pants. Have you ever dabbled in the the
brown frown in your drawers in your career?
You know, I maybe once or twice there's been a juicy fart, yes.
Oh please tell me. You got the problem is in the
Yeti outfit though. I mean, the juicy fart is just
unbelievable because you're all on white, so it's crazy.
It's like a man in the Newton there at.
(01:15:36):
Least you have something to wipeyourself with right away.
There. Were things, it's toilet paper,
but it's not toilet paper. It's like some kind of clock or
something. But yes.
What what are your the recollect?
I think we kind of briefly touched on earlier, but like you
were the Yeti at the end of Halloween Havoc 95, but by World
War three the next month that you were already super giant
(01:16:00):
ninja and were did they tell youlike because I know they branded
it as having three giants 3 ring.
Were you like, were you one of those giants?
Because I feel like they ended up making it like Hogan and they
just like called other people giants when it was really like
you were one of them for sure. So I believe the thought was the
beginning was it was going to bethe big or the giant Paul White.
(01:16:24):
It was going to be the Yeti was going to be George Gonzalez.
Oh my God. And then?
El Gigante And then I was going to be like the Sunny Ono's guy
that he brought in from Japan and there was going to be a
three rings, three giants, neverbeen done before craziness.
And they had shirts that said the three giants and all that
(01:16:46):
stuff. But then like George got sick
and went home back to Argentina.So I that's when I filled in as
the Yeti and, you know, after that and then, you know, the
Yeti went so smashingly that they put, you know, thought that
they wanted to run with it for so long that they were like,
(01:17:08):
defrost this kid and just make him the the Yeti or the giant
engine get done with it. Yeah.
Now I've watched World War three, recently 90. 50 It's
phenomenal, right? That wasn't bad.
When they all team up, does ArneAnderson turn your mask?
Why they're throwing you out. No, Arne Anderson does not.
(01:17:29):
It was Brian Pillman. Dig.
Well, so it was, you know, at this time I like, you know, had
a stellar, stellar debut at the last pay-per-view.
I get this new one and I'm like very nervous about going out
there, all this craziness. And then Arne Anderson comes up
(01:17:49):
and he's like, hey, man, we got this great idea for you tonight.
You know, if it was a real fight, everyone would gang up
and throw you out right away so that, you know, they could have
a normal fight. And I'm thinking, wow, this guy
is really trying to get me the smoothie here because, you know,
I'm the shits and they just wantto Get Me Out.
But you know, hey, so I get out there and I'm nervous.
(01:18:09):
I'm just going, you know, stressed out, to say the least.
And Brian Pillman just comes in there, turns my mask around
backwards, and by the time I getit corrected, I'm on the floor
and my match is over. I'm like wow.
This is great. That's really funny.
I mean, literally just landed and whoa, now I'm back.
OK, I can see it again. Holy shit what happened to me?
(01:18:33):
It's kind of like, talk to me about 2019 when you you get to
wrestle with Brian Pillman, Junior, like, 'cause you had
been out of the ring for quite abit of time before you step back
between the ropes, no. Oh yeah?
Where did I wrestle with him at?Six man gauntlet challenge.
Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
(01:18:54):
OK. Yeah.
That was like Super Bowl Sunday.Yeah.
Yeah, that was good. Yeah, it was fun.
How did you how did you get involved with that?
Some guy said he wanted the Yeti.
I said sure, I'll be there. I mean, it's that easy.
Money talks. Yeah, I guess nobody got sick
(01:19:16):
this time. No, no, no.
It was in Atlanta. It was in Atlanta.
So I said, Oh yeah, I'm more happy.
I think that was like the beginning of the AW too, because
there was all those guys there and Tony Kahn was sort of there
and they were trying to put somestuff together.
Oh yeah, Joey Janella did commentary.
Kevin Gill. Yeah, Oh.
(01:19:37):
Yeah, look at that. Thunder Rosa, Penelope Ford,
Ricky Stark's Ethan Page. What a card.
Yeah, they had Hangman Page was there.
I shared a a locker room with him.
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. Cody Rhodes was there.
The the Bucks were there. Yeah, Oh, wild.
(01:19:58):
Yeah. Wild, did you share any stories
with Cody about spending time inTurnbuckle Championship
wrestling? No, I did not.
But I remember him being there when he was like 15 years old.
His mom would drop him off afterschool and he would come hang
out and then he did some refereeing and other behind the
scenes work at Turnbuckle. So I wanted to interject here
(01:20:25):
real quick. You brought up this shirt, but I
actually do happen to have this.Shirt.
Yes. Wow.
I can't believe you actually brought it up because it was one
of the shirts I brought for my parents.
But yeah, it was wild that they they thought that Elegante would
even be. He hadn't worked since 93 so 2
years later seems like I don't know how much more he could have
(01:20:48):
handled because he was he. Came up and did it.
He came up and did some vignettes and stuff and then I
guess, you know, he had. Really.
Yeah, he had. He had the sugars and he moved,
went back down to Argentina. What are the sugars?
Diabetes, he was diabetic, that's what we call it here in
(01:21:10):
the South, the sugars. But he's the, he was diabetic
and he went back to and then I guess he did a UFC fight or
PRIDE fight after that, no. Got.
Me, I'd love I'd. Love to see those vignettes if
they were somewhere out there. I can't believe they even filmed
anything. Was he?
Do you remember like seeing thishappen or you just heard?
(01:21:32):
About I just know that they werelike, hey, man, you got to get
down to Florida like tomorrow. And I was like, what?
Like, yeah, we need you for these vignettes and I just OK.
Because I wonder, had he gone back to the elegante, what he
kept, The weird thing he had is Giant Gonzalez.
Like, how would he have looked in 1995?
That's kind of fascinating to me.
(01:21:53):
They might have had the El Gigante and then like put some
frosting on him for like he was frozen, right?
Oh my. God.
Frosting. Some of that spray.
Yeah. For your Christmas tree, the
White House. Fucking frozen in that dumb body
suit. Those goddamn sugars took it
(01:22:14):
from all of us. Yeah.
What was it like coming out of that giant block of ice at the
end of Nitro? Loud.
The weird thing is, like I, you know, I don't think they timed
it right because I didn't reallyget a full time cut.
OK. All right.
Yeah. It did it.
(01:22:35):
It was like they they said, Oh my God, what's happening?
And then you you popped out and then like it was already real
credits. And I felt that they didn't get
the like that's how they were going to promote the
pay-per-view was on like a two second thing, but that's WCW
for. You that was, yeah, at that time
it was very cut and paste. Now you know it's much better,
right? Oh yeah, it's it's almost to a
(01:22:58):
point where WDB seems like it's almost too polished, like
everything is perfect. You.
Know, almost like it's a Disney like showdown at Disney where
like the the pirate comes out like hey then oh, there's a
fight, you know, all right, and we're going to do this at 3
o'clock 7:00 and 9:00, OK? Shoot the shoot the arrow and
watch the fireworks go off your fucking.
(01:23:18):
Hands. Oh wow, yeah, they woo crazy.
Did you did you ever work the Disney WCW tapings?
I did, they were awesome. Wow, they were.
Literally like 10 days of debauchery though, it was just
crazy. I can't imagine.
But the flock? That's hard to believe.
Yeah, I mean, just debauchery down there.
And they had everyone like at the same hotel.
(01:23:40):
So it was just like, you know, whoa.
Now, did you have to, you guys didn't have to like you told you
talked earlier about like peoplefollowing like you and Scott
Norton, like today, like wrestling fans are out of their
fucking minds. Like they're going to people's
houses and stuff. Like you'd have to deal with
that back in the day, did you? You know, I just remember I
lived in a townhouse and every time the school bus would come
(01:24:02):
around like 3:00, they would yell Goldberg, Goldberg.
And I thought it was sort of funny.
And my wife would get really mad.
Like, they know you're trying tomake a living.
I'm like, look, sweetheart, you know it's no big deal, right?
Like, hey. But they would yell.
(01:24:22):
As long as they're making noise,right?
Yeah, right. Yeah, yeah.
So it was good. But you know, you guys talk
about wrestling being crazy. I mean, I did the Wrestle kid
last week. There was 10,000 people at this
place. Yeah.
I mean, just amazing. And you know, it was, you know,
you hear about how tough the economy is and all these guys
(01:24:43):
are out there buying stuff, going crazy, you know, buying
autographs. And it's it's a great time to be
in wrestling. Yeah, and I think, and I think
like, you know, events like Wrestle Cage, they, they bring
especially folks like us who have been, you know, lifelong
wrestling fans for, for, you know, decades to get to see the
people that we grew up watching,people that we watched like
during the Monday Night Wars, like even the Golden age back in
(01:25:05):
the 80s, Some, some folks still come around like they worked in
the 70s, you know, like it, it'sthat chance to kind of meet your
heroes and get a picture with them and, you know, share a
moment with them. It's it's cool all around.
It really is. You know, what I like about it
too is a lot of guys are wrestling fans, but they have
certain categories that they like.
Like I have a buddy who's A4 Horsemen freak, right?
(01:25:27):
That's all he really, you know, wanted to get the Four
Horsemen's autograph. And then another guy's like an
NWO guy and then another guy's like Demolition fan, you know,
and it's like all these guys arethere.
You can sort of get your little whatever you like and wrestling,
they're going to be there, you know?
Exactly. And also like a lot of those
guys, like from that era, like as fans, you like feel connected
(01:25:51):
to them, right? So I'm not.
You. You look at when WWE does this
like fanatics thing out here in New York and it's like $300.00
for like an autograph and like they just kind of push you
through the line like cattle. Like I'd rather, I'd rather
spend $20 and and talk to Joel Deaton and talk to him for 15
minutes. Wow, Joel Deaton, the outlaw.
(01:26:13):
Yeah. Yeah, it was good.
I I really liked it. We got to meet a lot of fans.
The Flock got together. Perry Saturn was there and
looking really good too, moving around.
Saturn. It's good to hear, yeah.
You need to get him on your show.
He's an interesting cat. I would if you have contact
information for Perry Saturn, I would love to have Perry Saturn
(01:26:33):
on the show. Yeah, Perry Saturn.
See. What I can do to help make out
for a sick boy? Perrysaturnisintheflock@gmail.com
Perry's Pumpkin Patch 21 Yeah. Perry has his own pumpkin patch
and he does Christmas trees. Perry does Christmas trees, I do
(01:26:56):
pumpkins. OK.
And we have like the holiday, you know, corner that we just
have our stuff on. Raises chickens to paint Easter
eggs. Yes, all your holiday needs.
Come see the flock. Who does the Turkey?
We we don't believe in that. It's a Pagan holiday.
(01:27:18):
We just like the good stuff. Why did what happened, your
tenure in WCW just kind of like ended what, is there a story
there or was it just like, all right, like I did what I did?
Well, they were. They're making cutbacks.
(01:27:38):
And Bob Sapp showed up at the power plant, and they were like,
holy shit, this guy's a monster.We got to bring him in.
And, well, we can't just bring. We got to cut somebody to bring
him in. And I was just standing there
and they said, you know what? We're going to cut this guy and
bring in Bob Sapp. And at the time, Bob Sapp looked
really good. And I was like, man, that's a
(01:27:59):
good, good swap there. So, yeah, I got my 30th
birthday. I got called in to WCW and they
told me, hey, God, we're not renewing your contract.
It's been fun. And then I went and worked out
for WWE and they were really hoton it.
It seemed like there was a lot of interest there and I heard
(01:28:21):
that I was going to be the bodyguard for Christian and
Edge, and then they decided to go with Tom Cohen instead and
the interest waned. How's that for being politically
correct? Tom Coe's a bum.
Yeah, who do you ever? I think he's Canadian.
(01:28:42):
I think that was a big deal backthen.
They're an all Canadian. Bunch.
Yes, 3/4 of the dollar. Jesus life after.
I came back and did. I did a show with TNA with
Raymond a couple years ago that was really good with Scott, the
more when he was at TNA and I haven't done much since.
(01:29:04):
I did the wrestle OK, which was fun.
We need, we need to get that Yeti action figure going.
Yes, absolutely. I think that's a sleeper big
hit. Yes, maybe.
What about a Yeti Christmas ornament that you could put on
your tree? You start with one thing, you
could get as many. Yeah, you could be the top of.
(01:29:26):
The tree? Yeah, on the top of the tree.
No, but. It's there's plenty of options.
Instead of sitting on top of thetree, it wraps his arms around
the top of the tree and. Shakes.
What if I hump the Angel? Yeah, Hump the Angel.
We just got the theme of the show.
(01:29:46):
I want to see that popping up. Episode 83 Humping the Angel.
Oh, Ron, this is episode 771. Yeah, we've been out this for a
minute. It's.
Been busy, huh? Well, once a week we all get.
Together, just hey, what are youdoing Tuesday night or Monday
night? Yeah.
I mean, long story, very short, Double T and I have known each
(01:30:08):
other for a very long time. We started this up back in like
2011 and over the years we brought in HK Handsome Kevin, we
brought in Brundo and I don't. Know about that?
But you. Know well and and Juice happens
to be a good friend of the show.He's doing his own thing, so we
bring him in periodically when we're in the mood to get that
WCW fix. Who's your favorite WCW guy?
(01:30:31):
The Yeti Great. Answer.
Great answer. I think, I mean, I mean, Sting
is like an obvious choice, but I'm, I'm fond of so much of WCW.
Like I, I grew up on it. Like you guys were talking to
you. You brought up how like Hogan
was maybe too cool and that's what kind of turned people on to
like loving cool heels. I always tell people I like, I'm
(01:30:54):
32. I grew up with Hulk Hogan as a
bad guy. I didn't grow up with Hulk
Hogan, you know, so it's a different dynamic throughout.
So I mean, Sting was my hero to defeat that Hogan, you know,
like that that guy was it was a unique dynamic of how that
played. But I mean, I don't know, I like
the flock. I always I, I, I enjoyed a lot
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of the, the stuff that went around.
I don't know how many charactersin WWI wouldn't have enjoyed, to
be honest with you. I mean, that's what I have in
here, Apologist, historian and Mark.
So I just big fan of we, we watched Nitro and we taped her
off. That's just how it was.
I'll, I'll never forget we were in, I want to say Chattanooga
and they did the fake sting. And I thought the people were
(01:31:38):
going to ride and destroy the building.
I mean, they lost their shit when that fake sting came out
and they really thought it was sting or, you know, they did not
know it was the fake sting. So it was pretty crazy.
It was pretty seamless of how they kind of made it work
because the guy they had was pretty damn accurate.
I mean, he was. He was a romper, too.
(01:31:58):
Yeah. Jeff Farmer So they couldn't
have done any better with that. Like sometimes it's it's, you
know, tough to do. And I remember they did the
scene. It was raining outside and like
he the fake thing beat up Luger.But because it was raining and
dark, he couldn't really tell. And it was like, perfect.
And there was that question of whether Sting was going to
really turn it, you know? And it was like, yeah, remember
(01:32:21):
if you saw like a black limo back in the day, you're like, Oh
my God, that's the NWO and. Yeah, there were.
There were an awful lot of people getting out of limos back
in the attitude. Era interview.
Old days every weekend. Not for anything, but these guys
are supposed to be showing up. What for like call time at 3:00?
Who do they think they are, rolling up 839 o'clock in the
middle of the show? How dare they?
(01:32:43):
Well, you know, the other thing that was great is you knew that
the limo was going to get destroyed.
When you saw like this was in like 96, you saw like an 88 limo
pull up. You're like, the limo is getting
destroyed tonight. Oh yeah, Let me ask you, Ron,
you shared a locker room with Rey Mysterio junior Nick Khan,
the head muckety muck over there.
(01:33:03):
TKO came out this week and he said that Rey was a nothing
burger in WCW. Could you?
You know, how do you feel about?That I think that Rey Mysterio,
when you talk about the NWO, hasto play a critical role because
he was the human lawn dart that went right into the building
there. Yeah, that's what Larry's Abisco
(01:33:24):
called him. Yeah, I mean literally like
you're holy shit, is that guy going to die or I mean, he was
only 5 feet when he started. When he finished out he was 4
foot 9. He hit that.
Thing so hard. And that that whole entire
night, it was serious. Like Jimmy Hart came running to
the ring. And Jimmy Hart.
Did Oh my God, baby, Oh my God. Yeah, he's like, come on to the
(01:33:44):
back. And then everybody ran and the
even the cameras, like the cameras were like moving like,
'cause the cameraman was running, 'cause, you know,
nothing was set up back there. And by the time the camera got
there, everybody, they laid waste to everyone with the
baseball bats. It was great TV.
It was and at the time like nothing was oh, they can't do
that. Oh, they just did it right.
(01:34:04):
What so crazy? Could you imagine what they
would do now with all the what is it like?
Not the helicopters, but the drones going around and stuff?
I mean, it would be crazy what they would do.
You know who I am, but you don'tknow why I'm here.
Oh my God it still gives me goosebumps.
Say hello. Now this is a question I have
(01:34:26):
for you guys because you're you're a panel.
So I like Scott Hall, liked Razor Ramon when he passed away
out of just out of being coolness to him.
I answered my phone. Hey, yo, for one year in memory
of Scott Hall. But I'm still sort of doing it.
Is that all right? Yes, 100.
(01:34:47):
Percent 100. Percent, absolutely.
You're paying homage to, you know, a former colleague of
yours. Hey yo, hey yo, that one.
Say hello to the Yeti. Did you ever find it weird how
Tony Shivani pronounced that theyete?
(01:35:10):
You know, it's fun. I have it as one of my ringtones
is it's the yete. It's.
Incredible. So if you go to YouTube and put
in WCW the yete, there's like a song that's 10 minutes long of
just it's the yete. It's the yete.
And yes, I I have it as a ringtone and don't tell anybody
(01:35:34):
that I have it as a ringtone, but yes. 10 minutes, you say?
Huh. Oh dude, it's the longest thing
ever. Like at some point you're like
Jesus, make this thing stop. It's like a Tecmo Disco the Yete
and it's under WCW the Yete on YouTube.
Don't tell, Tony's going to findthat in like 2 minutes.
(01:35:57):
Oh, you want me to look? Oh, I'm surprised you didn't
look already. I love stuff like that.
You ever hear Jr. My, you ever hear Jr. my ass?
Somebody, somebody took all the sound bites of Jim Ross calling
commentary on one of the old wrestling video games, and they
(01:36:18):
set it to like, it starts out with the Oklahoma theme song,
but then it breaks into a remix and he's just like, everything
is from his ass. He's broadcasting raw live from
his ass. Somebody's like dropping elbows
in his ass, like. Jesus, every week, Ron.
(01:36:40):
Every you ask what they do is this is the best, the best.
Here you only come like every month, once a month, this thing.
Man, I don't know. That's more.
Yeah, that was. You just threw a softball, the
(01:37:00):
handsome Kevin Eastman. Well, Mike, he couldn't wait.
He almost fucking came on the. Screen.
That's it when you get him. Every Monday, Ron, we're live.
Every Monday all. Right, good.
Well, you guys have to send me alink to your website.
I'd love to listen to you guys. 100%.
(01:37:21):
And remember, make sure that allyour fans are going to watch the
Unbreakable bunch. It is on some kind of platform
out there to watch and it is a great movie.
Everyone should watch it. It's a great movie to sit down
with your family over the holidays and watch.
Now, Ron. If it's like.
(01:37:42):
If we all sit down and watch it,will you come back and chat with
us about the film after we've done our homework?
Yes, we will. We'll do what was that science
movie where they had the two guys in the in?
The Mystery Science Theater, 3000.
We'll do that, yes. I like it.
Oh my God, a watch along to the the Unbreakable bunch.
Yes, with the Yeti you can watchthe Unbreakable bunch on Tubi
(01:38:06):
for free. Oh man, what?
For free. For free.
There were my retirement plan I'm.
Sorry, it's on Amazon Prime for $3. $3.
How do they split that up between a bunch of wrestlers?
Geez, you. Know what?
If you go ahead and watch it charge me back, I'll pay half of
(01:38:27):
it. Charge me back $1.50.
Is the Unbreakable Bunch a Christmas movie?
It, it, oh, it's a phenomenal Christmas movie.
It's an Easter movie. It is a Valentine's.
Day. Movie.
It is a Saint Patrick's Day movie.
It's a Thanksgiving movie. It's any it's there's so many
genres in this movie that it's whatever you want it to be.
(01:38:49):
It's the number one Juneteenth movie in the country.
Yes, it's up for many Academy Awards.
Yeah. Hey, Ron, when you first joined
us, you said you had a story forus.
I don't know if you had told it already.
Yeah, I. Wanted to bring it back.
So my son, so I just moved to Charlotte.
(01:39:11):
We're buying a house up here andI've been staying with my son
and his wife and there was a tall party in town.
Some guy on Instagram had a tallparty and it was at a bar in
Charlotte. And I went to the bar in
Charlotte and I was crowned the tallest man, the king of
(01:39:32):
Charlotte, at 7 foot 2 on Saturday night.
And I got an actual crown. You don't have.
There were two. 1000 people there.
Holy shit you don't have 2000? You don't happen to have the
crown in the room there with youdo.
You. I'm not in the room, it's
downstairs. But yeah, it's a nice crown too.
It's a little small for my big head but.
(01:39:53):
Well, you would think that they would put some thought into
that, right? Like they're not just going to
give the crown to some 5 foot 8 chud.
Right. I mean.
No. And the other thing that was a
little disappointing is they they had T-shirts for sale
there, but they were double extra large was the biggest they
had. It's like, come on.
Man, that's terrible planning. That's.
A2 XL. Come on, that's how.
How? Did you deal with the travel in
(01:40:15):
the WCW days? Being that can't.
I'm not a big person. Tall.
Well, yeah. Jerk off.
I hate, I hate traveling on airplanes.
It hurt everything. I got first class.
I got first class. That was nice.
Yeah, all the time. And those, those points, they
add up quickly when you're getting first class.
(01:40:36):
So it was nice. Say what was your agent, Barry
Bloom getting them? First, he was actually, Yeah.
Fuck yeah. Barry Bloom had like 1000
wrestlers that were really good or 99 wrestlers are really good.
You never have worn bad ones. Oh, he had big Train Bart too.
(01:40:56):
That's a shame. Yeah, Barry Bloom was hot stuff
back in the day. He was the guy that would get
you a guaranteed contract. Like, all right, cool.
That's awesome. And yet he hasn't gotten you a
Yeti action figure? What the fuck?
Nope. Yeah, I mean, he's sleeping.
Is he still doing agents for wrestlers?
I don't know, I have to give hima call this week.
(01:41:18):
I'll check out for you. Chris Jericho coming back.
That's the big scuttlebutt a lotof people have been saying.
He he interjected himself at Survivor Series.
He was the man in the mask man. You know what, that's pretty
good for him to climb that fencethat quickly at 55 years old,
man, you got to think about. That well, he's been getting in
(01:41:38):
shape according to what I've been reading.
All right. I would just imagine like you're
climbing up the fence and you'relike, holy shit, dude, this
thing's sort of hot now. What the hell?
And so am I. Yeah, can I, can I just go
around and jump in? I mean, come on, man.
I would have loved to have seen Ron Reese.
(01:41:59):
I would have loved to have seen Ron Reese climb in the cage and
getting involved. Hell no, I would have been stuck
on the top there. Looks like Harry Bloom is still
doing his thing. He's been around for a while.
Oh yeah. Do you think that guarantee
contracts were good for wrestling or bad for wrestling?
(01:42:23):
Good for you guys for sure. I don't know, I think it hurt
WCW in the end because they werethere was just.
They were giving it to everybody.
Right. Everybody on the roster was
getting it and. I mean, even, yeah, even the low
end guys, because they were in awar, they did.
They just didn't want people showing up in WWF.
(01:42:44):
We did. Did WCW really have to pay Bret
Hart $3,000,000 because WWE was not going to pay him $3,000,000?
I mean I had no problem with himpaying $3,000,000 if they had
him do something other than be the ref in his first appearance.
I think the creative was lacking, not the funds.
It's like, wow, we got him, now what do we do with him?
(01:43:05):
Yeah, we'll we'll have Goldberg kick his head off.
Yeah, it. Didn't they?
Didn't they had Lanny Potholes on their contract?
I don't think he was on WCW onceand Iron Sheik.
He nobody nobody cancelled his contract.
It rolled over for another year.He got paid to do nothing.
Sheiky baby was awesome. He really was.
(01:43:27):
He really was. I think they have files out
there where you can see all the guys that were paid and how much
they were getting paid. I'm pretty sure it's out there
somewhere. It's got to be especially when
they were a public company at one time too.
So you know, The funny thing is,is you note you cannot get
health insurance. You cannot get 4 O 1K.
You were all What is it? Independent contractor.
(01:43:51):
Independent contractor, yeah. Which is funny because nowadays
if you look at like some of the guys who were involved in the
office, because they're on the office side of things, they
actually are within corporate structure.
So they wind up getting the fourO 1 KS, they wind up getting the
health insurance. So that's why, like a lot of
these guys try to parlay into office stuff like, you know,
(01:44:12):
like you take a guy like John Laurenitis, you stick him in the
office, like now he's made, you know, like, you know, that
that's what guys kind of hope for once they get older, you
know? It's four O 1's.
Nice. I'm with the company now and
it's good. They matched me 4%.
Put that 4% in there, found my right.
Yeah, that ain't bad at all. No, it's not.
(01:44:35):
Those pumpkin folks are really hooking you up.
They really? Yes, We even made pumpkin pies
on the weekends. Oh shit, yeah.
What's your favorite pie? I like a.
(01:44:57):
What? What was the answer?
Pecan I was. Going to say hair pie but you
know. That's nothing wrong with hair
pie. Hair pie is good.
The hair pie is actually hard tocome by these days.
They like they like going hairless.
Yes, the new age. Double T's.
Just shaking his head. Oh yeah, I also found.
(01:45:21):
Hey, how many? How many?
Hairs you think Ric Flair still has stuck in his teeth from from
back in the day? No hair, no flair.
Yep. Wow.
Hard to believe he's still with us, right?
Yeah. Yes, he's out.
He is out of fucking control. Yeah, he's nuts.
(01:45:41):
He's completely off the rails. The street drugs, they're
killing everybody I found. You found the Yeti.
I I'm looking for you. He's looking for hair pie.
No, I'm thinking for the. Contract.
I don't think you can order thaton gold Belly Double T No, I
(01:46:03):
found the I found all the paperwork for the shipping hair
pie nationwide. Yeah, it's Andre's hair.
Hey, Ron, maybe that's the kind of business you need to tap
into. Yes, there's.
You can make a lot of money in that.
Shipping Hair Pie to the continuous 48 States and Canada.
Canada, yes. Take that shit international.
(01:46:27):
Come on double T, I'm looking. All right, well, Ron, this I
know it's late. I know you're we've had you for
a well over an hour. This has been absolutely
amazing. You are a a treasure and this
has been such. A good Do I rank in the top 10
guests? Or top.
Yeah, top three. And I'll get Sick Boy to come
(01:46:50):
back, and I'll get Raven to comesay hello to you.
We, you know what, funny story, we had Raven a long time ago, a
very long time. Somebody, somebody wasn't paying
attention to the questions we were asking him.
And somebody asked the same question that had just been
asked. And then Raven was like, hey
guys, I got to go walk my dog and he left the show.
(01:47:12):
Wow. Oh, you're Perry Saturn for you
too. Perry's good stuff.
Oh, Perry is a dream. Yeah.
One of my favorites of all time.Oh, that.
'D be amazing and we brought youback.
You're the best. You're the best.
Just don't ask him about Mafi. They had a very rough break up
and it's like he's still a little sore about it.
And I'll leave you with this. And in the mid 2000s, according
(01:47:33):
to this information, I found sick boy only made $46.
Well, he was sick. Yes.
He didn't have. Benefits He did better in in 99
and 98, but $46? He's looking good now.
He's healthy boy, so we'll be good.
It's got to be a residual check from like, from like one of the
(01:47:56):
video games or something, yeah. That's true.
Gym nice boy shirt. Boy, have a.
Shirt. Ron, an absolute pleasure
anytime you want. To come.
Happy holidays, gentlemen. Same to you.
Sir, the. Unbreakable bunch.
Go watch it, it's phenomenal. You got.
(01:48:18):
It five stars. Fuck, you get that action
figure. You got to get that Yeti action
figure next guys. Have a great evening.
Ron, thank you. Ron.
Take care. Ron, thank you so much brother.
Look at that juice. You got to hang out and talk to
the Yeti. I am beaming.
(01:48:40):
He showed up early, It worked out perfectly.
Yeah, I, I think I saw it was just didn't you guys just
promote it as a mystery guess? Yeah, 'cause we weren't.
Because, you know, we had a, We've had a very bad streak
lately, Trust issues, sick boy. And Henry Godwin did not show up
for our anniversary show after they confirm so.
(01:49:00):
And our correspondence with Ron was like through Instagram.
And he was like, hey, I'm never really on here, so here's my
number. And I texted him yesterday and
he didn't respond. So like on a whim this morning
when I sent you the link, I alsosent him the link.
And then he was like, sounds good, I'll be there.
And I was like, oh, I guess we have the Yeti tonight.
But I didn't want to promote it because I don't want to have to
(01:49:21):
put Ron Reese on the list. Yeah, well, I mean, it all
worked out. He he was a great time.
He had a lot of insight there throughout.
I mean, we even said cup of coffee in WCW, but I mean, he
had so much Intel from those years that he was there and I
thought it was fascinating stuffit.
(01:49:42):
Was great stuff and juice. This is I'm I'm glad you got you
appreciated it. I know you did because of your
love. Yeah.
Hustling in WCW, so I'm happy you got to hang out with us and
talk to the to the yete. I appreciate you guys having me
on here and the opportunity to talk to the Yeti Reece, Ron
Reece, super giant ninja. That was the highlight man that
(01:50:04):
it really is. You don't really get to have a
chance that you know, you go to these conventions and whatever,
but you don't get to have a hourand a half conversation, you
know, panel, panel discussion with a guy like that.
So that was incredible. So I appreciate it and I it was
fun talking about the WCW beforehe even came in.
Thought we touched on a lot of good topics so.
(01:50:25):
Home run juice? What's going on on the juice
box? Anything you want to promote
before we let you boogie out of here?
This week we're going to do Saturday night's Main event
predictions. Little John Cena last match.
Very interesting to see how the rest of the card fills out and
if the rest of the audience leaves after said match.
But I did bring the Cena CD, bought in April of 2005.
(01:50:50):
It's got a whole bunch of scratches on it, and the cool
part was that the inlay folds out as the whole belt there.
You go not a boy so. True Mark, this is it's it's
really full circle how this all happened like I, you know, WW
closed in O 1 and I was out I didn't watch wrestling really at
all for four years and then no way out O 5 was promoted for
(01:51:14):
Pittsburgh and I was like, I don't know why this is so funny
to me but I'm like, oh, but wrestling is still a thing.
I can't believe it. And then and then like I started
watching it and John Cena piquedmy interest and I was like, all
right. And I was was very
impressionable as a what, 12 year old then.
So I was like, I was hook, line and sinker with the rap record,
(01:51:34):
bought the record, bought WrestleMania 21.
That was the first pay-per-view we had bought since the WCW
shows. And I've never looked back.
I was hooked as a fan then stillgoing.
So it's pretty wild to see him hang up the the jorts.
One final match you. How do you guys think the match
ends? What they were?
(01:51:54):
What were they touting the otherday?
He's only tapped out like 3 times in his career.
Twice to Angle, once to Ben Wassand once to Jericho.
So yeah, three times, yeah. So I think they're going to.
I think he's going to. I think he's going to tap out to
Gunther. I don't think no, no, no.
Tap out or pass out because you.Never pass out.
Just like, yeah, Gunther puts him to sleep.
(01:52:15):
Never. Give up to.
Me do you do you? Do you think that it's like
Guther already retired? We didn't retire Goldberg, but
he had his final match, what have you.
And if this is how they're goingto, if this is how they're going
to go with that, do you think it's even is is it enough that
he makes Cena pass out? Or do you think they need that
little extra wrinkle of Cena tapping out?
Or would that be too much of a bad image on Cena walking out?
(01:52:37):
Do you think people be pissed? He passes them out, that's all.
Yeah. Never give up.
Yeah, never. He didn't give up.
Triple H comes out, stops the match because Triple H has to be
no. What do you?
Mean they did it in Boston he came out and talked for fucking
10 minutes before they brought out John Cena yes John Cena
won't give up right and and he'slike passing out and whatever
(01:53:00):
and the referee's going to call for the bell and Cena will grab
the ref and it'll be like no no and then like.
Triple H will come up ring. The bell ring the bell.
Screw him over. I'd like to see Cena Don the
Crimson mask like he did at Judgement Day O 5, but I don't
think we're going to see. It and then Joe Henry will come
out and lay down for Oh fuck. That's a great idea.
(01:53:25):
Genius idea. God damn it.
Yeah, a little bit. Saturday's going to be huge.
Huge. What do you got?
Bailey, Saul, Ruka, Cody, Obafemi.
They'll throw one more match on there probably, right?
Yeah, I want Oba Femi to pin Cody clean like Kevin Owens did
to Cena. It's.
(01:53:46):
Not entitled. Why not be surprised if they
leave it as three? Because, you know, the Cena,
even the aftermath is probably going to take an hour.
Yeah, everybody's going to have to suck his Dick afterwards, you
know? And it's not, it's not on NBC.
So because it's on Peacock, it'spractically like APLE.
So they'll have access to however long they want to make
it go. They will cut it off like they
(01:54:06):
did Goldberg's. What do you want me to do?
Picking it up? We're not picking it.
No, we're not picking it. No, we're not picking it.
No. It's why I'm not picking it.
Juice, thank you so much. Add the juicy Steen.
Give him a follow. He's one of the highlights of
people on social media. He's always up for a good
conversation. He's very positive and he's just
(01:54:30):
a great all around guy. Check out the juice box and
yeah, we'll see you down the road.
Juice. Yeah, appreciate it.
Looking forward to hopping it in2026.
I'm going to see what I can do and talk to people about this
Ron Reese Legends deal. We got to get the Yeti figure
out there. I already tweeted out the major,
the major brother, so let's get.This out go, let's go.
(01:54:50):
I need a Yeti for a Monday night.
Get him to a reputable company. Because it's a WCW entity.
So I think there to be could ownthat otherwise it would just be
it would be not as good. So I think he should go all the
way and then you can sign those conventions.
How great would that be? Fantastic.
I'd love to see the Yeti out there.
(01:55:10):
I I'd buy Reese too. I think Reese is a fun
character. Yes, I would love to have the
whole flock as part of my collection.
Yeah. All right.
See you fellas in 2026. Juice, have a happy holiday.
Happy holidays. Happy Holidays.
Same to you fellas. Thanks, Juice.
(01:55:31):
All right, we are. We have gone way longer than
imaginable. We're not going to take a break,
right? You know the Shining Wizards
network, you know where all the shows are.
Check them out, support them. They're fantastic.
We got stuff dropping on YouTube.
The Joe Henry interview I did with him right before the Ring
(01:55:52):
of Honor 18th anniversary show before the pandemic canceled,
that is gonna drop on Friday. Jordan Oliver interview that we
did with him when he was in MLW from 2020 is dropping on the
19th. And then for Canadian Boxing
Day, we're going to drop the Ethan Page interview where we
open it up with him telling the shit his pants story and then we
get deeper into his involvement with TNA.
(01:56:14):
So those were all be dropped on YouTube, the Patreon this month
you get 333 bonus shows. We got an indie Rogue
Chronicles, we got History of the Wizards, and we have the
naming of the shows, which we recorded after every episode.
Tony has painstakingly chopped that all together and that will
(01:56:35):
be coming out on Christmas. I believe that will drop on
Christmas Day at noon. So if you guys are getting ready
to have your Christmas dinner, fish whatever the hell you eat,
if you're whatever, you can listen to us swear like fucking
sailors in an hour and listen tothe other fucking titles that
(01:56:57):
didn't make the cut. It's a bit a bit away, but I
know the street team will be outat Winnipeg Pro Wrestling in
February at the February show. So if you see SJ out there, be
sure to say hello. I actually forgot that she had
sent this to me and I've yet to listen to it.
(01:57:20):
I got to pull it up now because that just, it just rained.
Oh, yeah. So apparently Jimmy Jacobs was
one of the people SJ had reachedout to about the anniversary
show, and he didn't get back to her till late.
But then he decided to to send her this little voice memo.
So I have not listened to this. So I'm going to crank this up
(01:57:40):
and let's see if we can hear this.
Crank that shit. Hey guys, this is five time Ring
of Honor World Tag team champion, former WBTNANAW
creative member, the Zombie Princess Jimmy Jacobs.
And I hear the Shining Wizards podcast just celebrated their
14th anniversary. And I know, I know I might be a
a little late, but how's the saying go?
(01:58:01):
A Shining wizard is never late, nor is he early.
He arrives precisely when he means to something like that.
So that being said, congratulations on a spectacular
14 years. I want you guys to do another 14
years. Oh God no.
I always get what I want. Congratulations.
(01:58:23):
I thought that was nice. Fucking amazing.
If I couldn't like Jimmy Jacobs anymore.
Like there was a Lord of the Rings phrase in there.
Just chef's kiss. Oh, is that what that was?
Yeah. Is there anything we need to
talk about? There's we had like a fucking
laundry list of shit, but I knowwe're not looking to go to 10:00
(01:58:45):
and I know we got to get into homework.
Homework. How about pigs?
Real quick, How we Yes. Pigs real quick.
Speaking of shit in our pants. What?
Oh. We're a fucking disaster.
Me and handsome Kevin went one O4 Brundo and Tony went two and
three. Like couldn't the only one.
(01:59:06):
Everyone got right with Ethan Page.
Everybody else fucking tanked. Tanks.
Fuck it, how do you take the title of a Ricky Saints like
that fast? Like why even fucking put the
title on him in the 1st place ifyou're going to give him a quick
70 days and then it's going to lead to Javon and Oba and Jovan
(01:59:28):
will probably win If that was a plan all over like why fucking
do it? It's a wait 70.
Days. 70 days, that was it. Glad I don't watch that you
didn't hear me yet other than screaming about 79 man.
Fuck that asshole too. I I.
Watched 5 go back to Wendy's Booker TI was 5 minutes.
(01:59:50):
First of all he said he was the longest reigning NXT champion
talking about Obafemi. Then Victoria Joseph has to
correct them because he was wrong.
It's North America, Nick Joseph should correct him even when
he's right. Fuck him.
I couldn't understand anything. I turned.
No. Man.
Yeah, man, it's. Awful NXTTV this week was so
much fucking better without him.Like just like Corey Graves do
(02:00:13):
fucking double duty every. Week duty please.
You said double duty and I thinkI I didn't watch the the iron
survivors match, but I I hate I looked at the results and the
women's had like a million fucking things happen, pinfalls
missions. That was the I mean, Ricky and
(02:00:35):
Oba was good, but the women's one was entertaining.
I thought. I mean, I love Soul Ruka and
everything she does. So I might have been looking
through it with Glamorize or whatever they call it because
she was in it and she she shinedin it like crazy too.
So they just announced, they just announced Dragonly, AJ
(02:00:58):
Styles against Javon Evans and Leon Slater for Saturday night's
main event. Tian Tian Evans there Leon
Slater. Tian Evans.
Yeah, Javon Evans and Tian Evans.
HK anything you want to talk about?
I just I watched the entire NXT event.
(02:01:22):
I did and I almost turned it offas soon as I remember that it
was the Iron Survivor bullshit just 'cause I I hate the match
type and I generally enjoy watching NXT because.
It is, you know you. Kind of get a feel for what
might be coming, you know, next down the pipeline.
At least an idea. I like Oba a lot.
(02:01:43):
That match type fucking sucks somuch.
It is, it is so much bullshit for a match and I, I don't care
for it at all. Slow down everybody, just be
cool. Just be cool.
And then the one thing that thatI read today that Meltzer said
that pissed me off was that. God, what was the?
I I'm I'm paraphrasing the the exact quote though, but it was
(02:02:07):
the Don comes back. And it was D'Angelo, Yeah.
Yeah, and it was clearly racist.That the Don.
Came back, I was like, God, Melcher, you're such a piece of
shit. In what fucking way?
How is it racist? It was a it was a whole thing.
He was he was really grasping for straws because D'Angelo
attacked Evans and then dropped the black roses on on Evans and
(02:02:30):
then stared down Oba and the whole thing was clearly a it was
a racist thing and Melcher such a piece of sheet go fuck
himself. So that I, I think he was
alluding to, to Triple H is the one that pulls the strings at
NXT, not Shawn Michaels. See the Booker T Triple H feud
from 15 years ago. Yeah, yeah, it probably holds
(02:02:53):
water. I don't, I'm not saying it's
right because I didn't see it, but I'm just saying I think
that's what he was trying. He maybe he was trying to make a
joke fail though. Yeah, yeah, he can eat a shit.
No, he's an asshole. He's a yeah, he is an asshole.
Yep, he's 100% Yep. And but I did like to see
D'Angelo back because I I, I like D'Angelo.
(02:03:13):
So it'll I'm. I'm, is he one of the fucking
goombas or some shit? Yeah, he's a goomba.
Yeah, he's not #1 goomba. That's why he dropped the black
roses. Tony, you should know that.
Yeah, it's. In your culture, No it's not.
It's he's a douche nozzle. No, I don't know.
Douche Goomba. No, he's a douche.
Mafiosa. The douche Gara douche Baba
garoush. Tony, anything from your it's it
(02:03:38):
doesn't have to be NXT related, just anything from the wrestling
world you want to talk about this week.
Bye, Larry. Aw, man, Puts.
Come on. That's not that's not nice.
What? Bye, Larry.
Say it. All right.
What if we could condense this into 30 seconds or less?
(02:03:58):
What crawled into Sarah Stocks Cooch?
Oh, she's out of control. I kind of dig it.
I love it. I love, I love, I love looking
every night. I love.
And it's not just, AW, now. Now she's going over to Matt
Bloom and WWE and Dick. Dick's hitting people in the
faces and Claudio getting mad because he's showing it.
(02:04:20):
She should join our show. Oh my God, I'll reach out.
Dicks and faces. Dicks and faces I love.
I like when people try and set the world on fire.
I'm all here. Fuck yeah, dude.
I like when I get Dicks and faces.
Yeah, yeah, I love it. I'm loving I look, if you guys
(02:04:40):
can find 90 minutes, I think youshould check out JCW Lunacy.
Yep. And if you got 45 more minutes,
check out the unbreakable bunch.Nothing.
It's a fucking plug. Yeah, no, I'm going to be
watching. That.
I look, I've watched JCW the last two weeks.
It's it's different. Yep.
(02:05:00):
I'm surprised Tony likes it because they curse a lot on
commentary. You know why?
Because I'm used to fucking Stranglemania, you know what I'm
saying? Like that's that's the kind of
show that it is. And then you know, and I don't
know if it's a it's, I don't know how how long Vince Russo
has been involved or how long they've been taping, but like,
there's little things it's not and it's not a perfect show.
(02:05:22):
So don't fucking, oh, this is fucking garbage.
If you don't like it, you don't like it.
But like, there's dudes that arelike zombies and they wrestle
like zombies. They don't do like wrestling
moves. They fucking move like zombies
and they do zombie stuff. I got the moves like zombies it
makes. Sense to me like they're
zombies, so clearly they're not.I got the.
(02:05:43):
Tough toeholds. What I watched.
I watched GCW Friday night. I loved it.
I loved it. There's a lot of weird stuff in
the Fe Priscilla Kelly match. She was rubbing her cooch on his
face. It was wild stuff.
Wait, what was this FFE and Priscilla Kelly?
(02:06:09):
I'm surprised you didn't see a clip of that.
You know what I watched over theweekend and I'll mention it real
quick. I don't know when it was from,
it was Dan Housen against Priscilla Kelly.
This was the most dog shit fucking match I've ever seen in
my life. It was horrible.
I don't understand how Dan Housen is over.
The crowd didn't even give a shit.
He wiggled the fucking jar of teeth.
(02:06:31):
Aside from Priscilla Kelly beingall dolled up like one of these,
like fucking Asian girls with the fucking with the wigwam
socks, with the leg warmers and all that shit.
The little fucking orange pigtails and stuff.
Yeah, like other than that, likeI couldn't give less of a shit
about this. It was horrible, horrible.
All right, all. Right, that's that's my
(02:06:54):
independent wrestling watch of the week.
TNA is going to be on AMC starting in January.
Fucking great. And the right just showed up at
the end of that TNA pay-per-view.
So props to Vincent and Dutch. I think that's fucking awesome
for them. They came out and I guess they
they they went face to face withthe Hardys.
(02:07:15):
Good. So that's pretty exciting across
the WWE and AW landscape. There's a couple things that
bother me. Entrance music when you're doing
a run in, especially when you stop and point at the camera.
Kenny Omega, please don't do that.
That's old hat. Still super duper annoying.
Also in the AW land, enough withthe fucking blood.
(02:07:37):
Every week you really just, you ruin it.
You just take the. It's just I'm more impressed
when somebody doesn't bleed on your fucking shows.
You got to bleed, bro. You don't.
That'd be awesome. You don't be awesome.
Let me put a plastic bag over your head, stick you in a fish
tank and cut your back though. You're fucking awesome.
(02:07:59):
Hey, what do you think? It is fucking awesome.
I take the jump. My Stevie Wonder walk.
It's fucking awesome. I was here to make them.
See my pants, man? Piss your pants.
Fucking awesome. I think the you bitches are
going to team up. Fucking awesome.
(02:08:20):
This is what we talk about, Ron.God damn it, man.
I think the WWE dropped the ball.
I think the Wyatt Family and theMFTS should have been should be
building to a war games. But because every paper US has a
theme, motherfucking Tongan's fucking awesome.
(02:08:40):
Not going to get that. When was the last time the
fucking Wyatt Family was even onTV?
Bro I didn't even realize they were the tag team champions.
Until. Friday night, put sick boy in
the Wyatt 6. Fucking awesome.
That's it. I got to go take a piss.
Start homework. I got to go take a piss.
(02:09:01):
Brundo, this was your homework, wasn't it?
Oh, it sure was. Oh, this hand job, Yeah.
Fuck him, this fucking hand job.Fucking waddle to the fucking
John we see. You.
Oh, there he goes. Rondo, I will ask you one
question. Sure.
(02:09:23):
Why do you torture me so? What, you didn't like homework?
I wanted to like homework, I really did.
I wanted to like the homework I actually originally picked too,
and I think the one that I from now on I'm going to actually
like preview the the match or whatnot that I pick.
So please, please enlighten us why?
(02:09:45):
Why match striker and oh God. Originally I went I wanted to
watch Christopher St. Connection versus Sexy Eddie and
Beef Wellington. Yeah, I thought that's what you
had said. That's what I originally picked,
but the video I found was just some fucking guy talking over
the match. So you wouldn't hear if there
was no, like if there was no crowd noise, there was none of
(02:10:08):
the guys and Eddie and the Christopher St. connection, all
these guys are like what I like to call verbal wrestlers.
So a lot of interaction. So it wouldn't have just hit the
same way. So I decided to pivot quickly to
the what I thought would be a great Christopher St. match
(02:10:28):
because I was a big fan of thoseguys back in the early 2000s.
So I'll, I'll yield the floor toHK first.
You got any thoughts on this homework, buddy?
So there's Christopher St. Those were the Fuddruckers,
right? Oh yeah, yeah.
I miss Fuddruckers. My God, yes.
Now fucking starves dude. There's still one in Parsippany.
(02:10:50):
I got to take the drive up. There is.
There Really. There's one up on 10.
Yeah, because there used to be one in Wayne on 23.
There used to be the one on fourin Paramus.
Yep, those are long gone. Yeah, the one on four ironically
turned into a gym. It's a turn that's weird, but
OK. I'm sorry.
HK. The Fuddruckers.
(02:11:12):
Yeah, no, I didn't. I really didn't mind what was
going on in the match at all. The like the way that they work
together. I thought it was entertaining
enough. I always liked Matt Striker.
I thought that he could could have been more than what he was.
I had to get a had a good luck. He worked well in the ring.
That's at times I thought it wasa little bit over the, a little
(02:11:35):
bit over the top, like over the top.
When he's yeah over the. When you're playing to the crowd
and he's like, you know, he sucks what he sucks what he's.
Oh hell yeah. No, we're not doing it.
We're not doing it. I'm fucking tired.
(02:12:01):
But like it seems like like he went just a little bit too much
on that where it like it died instead of him killing it so he
could bring it back. You know what I mean?
Like when the fan, the fans haveit die, it's harder to bring it
back than when you kill it and then bring it back because
they're ready to bring it. Back with you SO.
That that's something that I thought.
Was kind of a miss. Funny spots I was I'm all for.
(02:12:25):
I was surprised to finish that that roll up, like I didn't see
that coming and I'm always. I'm a big.
Fan of like the surprise roll upfinish, but after like the chair
shot and bullshit. I I thought it was kind of AI
don't know. It didn't tickle me the way I
wanted to be tickled, but all together like I had.
I enjoyed the action. I laughed at I laughed at the
comedy spots. It was.
(02:12:46):
It was a fun. Match.
I enjoyed it. It's what?
And I was in the bathroom. Did you say what year this was
from? 2000 I didn't, but I think it
was 2004, 2000. Five, I think it was 2004
though. Yeah, that's definitely what and
what I didn't look and see what?Promotion.
It was, I'm sorry, I believe it's USA Pro.
OK. Yeah, yeah.
Because they always ran the Frank Goodman.
(02:13:08):
Yeah, they ran the Elks Lodge and they would have put on these
like of course they'd 6 hour shows and bring in all the old
ECW guys and the ticket sellers and everybody from the area.
Yeah, no, I'm with HK on this man.
It it kind of checked all the boxes for me.
It was an entertaining, good wrestling matches.
I mean, you could tell it's early 2000s.
(02:13:29):
Like he's a homo chant yelling homo.
Striker swallows the. 2nd A female walks out the curtains
show your tits immediately like there's no like there was just
like girl curtain tits tits tits.
You know, I was surprised that the chair shot didn't end the
match, though. Yeah, so I'm, I didn't
(02:13:52):
understand any of that. I, I felt like there were three
pinfalls. Like what the fuck exactly
happened? I don't even remember at this
point. There was she, she pulled the
referee out at one point. Yeah.
So the. Oh, and that's that piece of
shit Ref Hansen, too, Who was the referee?
Yeah. I think that's the guy who was
(02:14:12):
talking over the original video too.
Oh, really? Yeah, I think so.
It was a that there was. Did anybody catch who that woman
was? I No.
I. Got no idea.
Woman. Who's that fucking woman?
(02:14:34):
Woman he's. With the Christopher St.
connection, you know the gay innuendo finishers like the tea
bag. Oh.
I love that fucking finisher that they.
The head in the crotches, pull the pants down gimmicks like
although Matt Striker was not clearly not the professional
(02:14:54):
that Simon Diamond was. Simon Diamond just went bare
ass. You know Matt.
Matt Striker thought he was. Getting signed again.
That's what it was. I thought it was fine though.
I I'm with his. I enjoyed it.
I enjoyed it for what it wasn't.It was 12 minutes probably give
or take. Fun stuff, fun match.
(02:15:16):
They can work with shit but it'sour video so.
Yeah, what do you expect? And I didn't, you know, I was
not surprised when someone pointed in the crowd that he was
a homo and RF put the camera on him, you know?
Just. Scoping out.
His age. Yeah, seeing if he was old
enough. Yeah 14 lol.
Not old enough? 18.
(02:15:36):
Creep. Yeah, I really enjoy.
I actually enjoyed this. I always enjoyed the Christopher
St. connection. I thought they were great.
Whether they could play, they were perfect playing either
heels or babyface where they could be fun gayer like over the
top. Like, OK, this Brown's going to
really fucking hate them. Fun gayer fun gayer they could
(02:15:58):
be fun gayer isn't that being like fun, fun or gay gay I'm.
Not sure both, but yeah, it was always.
It's funny to think too. They are the first wrestlers
ever to come out at a Ring of Honor show at the Era of Honor,
Beginner begins. They were the first ones through
the crowd or through the curtain.
(02:16:18):
Oh, I that type of cut. Yeah, I'm with you, Tony, I
thought. Yeah, fun gayer.
We got fucking John Cena's goingto die before the week, and we
got the the Christopher St. Connection coming out on the
first Ring of Honor show. Oh, Vince McMahon was going to
die. Vince McMahon.
That was it. Yeah, Vince.
(02:16:40):
Sorry, Tony, where were you? Where did you land on this?
The homework? I don't know, Like the shit just
started bothering me. Like I'm all in for good laughs
and stuff but like it just seemed like you were forced to
get. Like it didn't seem genuine.
It just seemed like we got to get all our shit in.
And like the hot tag really fucking annoyed me because there
(02:17:00):
was no hot tag. The crowd didn't give a shit
when the other dude got in. Like I don't know man, I just to
me I usually enjoy this kind of shit.
I felt they tried way too hard in this one and it just didn't.
Click. I didn't feel it, man.
I really didn't. I'm surprised I am too cause
usually I, I fucking would be dying for this shit.
(02:17:22):
You know, listen, maybe if it was 2004 and I was there and I
was watching this live, but 2020and it's got nothing to do with
PC 'cause I could give a fuck less about being PC or like
doing the gay thing and whatnot.But it just, it just didn't
click for me, man, because you know me, I'm fucking bro stuff
all day. Oh yeah.
Yeah, Julio showed up at 8:11. He said all roads lead back to
(02:17:46):
bro stuff. Yeah, but unfortunately they
didn't. They didn't lead to this one for
me, man. I just, I wasn't feeling it.
So if you were in the front row,Tony, and they came around to
you, would you make out with them?
Make out Because I've been at shows and seen people literally
make out with the Christopher St. connection.
No, they. Come around.
(02:18:07):
Hold on. Hold on dudes.
Yes, 100% dudes. They're gay, I get it.
But like, wait, is it a gimmick?Are they like they're married?
They have kids and shit? No, no, this is definitely was
not a gimmick. Oh, this is life imitating art
imitating. Yeah, yeah, they they definitely
were. I I get and I'm I'm good with
that, but like making out, unless they were plants, they
(02:18:28):
had to be plants. You can't just be who's God they
were people stupid. I stopped.
I stopped at giving him hugs in the front row.
I didn't go. That's what I mean.
Like I'd give him a hug, maybe alittle pat on the ass or
something. Go get him, Tiger.
You know you're not full blown making out with him.
No, I mean if he wants to give me a fucking handy, you know?
(02:18:52):
Ding Ding. Yeah, I don't need a kiss for
that. Yeah, but how quick?
Like how quick is your release? It could be as quick as it needs
to be. Could you imagine Christopher
Orr St. getting in the ring and having a little surprise in her
hand? I don't think that was either.
Their names. Oh, that's not their names.
No. Christopher H Street oh like
(02:19:12):
like Billy Christopher and Johnny St.
Like the can't have connection one's Christopher on one St.
Billy. Christopher.
The can am connection. Neither one of them was named
can or am. No, but it's really.
No it doesn't. Martel and Zinc.
(02:19:33):
Maybe it, maybe it does. We're not in the locker room.
See, I can make gay jokes too. Can we go back to the Rooster
burn? I want to get some flaming
sushi. I don't think the streak ends
tonight, though, because I give it a thumbs up.
(02:19:58):
Yeah, I'll be begrudgingly give it like a a sort of in the
middle maybe. I guess just to because I'm
thinking 2025 me, 2004 me would probably be all about this shit.
Oh yeah, your fucking T-shirt, like turned up inside, like in a
little with your oh, me, yeah, you, your fat belly hanging out
yelling homo homo. You'd be all that Yeah for 21
(02:20:23):
years later to be on fucking YouTube.
Would you be like Striker Swallows?
That's the other thing too. The quality was so bad, like it
was really hard to make out whatthe crowd was going for, what
they were saying in the ring half the time.
Oh yeah, I think. It contributed to my misery
watching this as well. Early 2000 indie wrestling,
that's what you're going to get.Yeah, no, I get it.
(02:20:45):
Some of the old ECW like home videotapes were fucking rotten
too. Yeah, you couldn't hear anything
on the House mikes. Pretty sure you can hear Simon
Diamond call for the the Dick, the Dick, the Dick.
He was calling for the. Dick.
Where like he like he get he gets like back body dropped and
then like striker falls face first into his Dick.
(02:21:08):
Like I'm pretty sure you can hear him call that spot.
What do you say give? Me, the jerk.
Something. Like that?
Yeah. I was just looking these guys up
too. Would could you give a guess on
who trained the Christopher St. connection?
Gino Caruso. No.
Iron Mike Sharp. Oh God, is it Johnny Rods?
(02:21:29):
Nope. Oh, Chase the rants.
That was a good guess. Double T That was a really good
guess. I really thought that was it.
Who? Train these.
Gulak. Nah.
No, they started before Gulak. OK, Mikey Whitwreck.
Nope. Am I close?
I don't think so. Same area I guess.
(02:21:56):
What is the wrestling school? That was around 2004?
It has to. Mean they were.
They were in 2004, yeah. As a one, they were ring
homicide bingo. Homicide, both dog bound guys,
those guys training with Loki and the hit squad, That would
(02:22:16):
have been fun fun to watch. Woof.
Yep. Handsome Kevin, you are.
Is that everything we have to say about the homework?
I'm sorry. Yeah.
So three thumbs up. And and and it's good.
The streak continues. All right, HK, you're up buddy.
(02:22:37):
Come on. I'll be back on Larry's Abisco,
Bobby back on Larry's Abisco. So, and that was the hard thing
because I was really thinking about going with some, with some
Bobby Backlund here. But with it being seen as last
match on Saturday, I figured I II'd get into the Cena pile,
right? Go back to the Cena.
That I didn't. Appreciate when we had him and
that is. The Cena of. 2005 and that is
(02:22:58):
going to be judgement day. 2005 it's him and JBL in an I quit
match. OK.
I'm all about JBL in the world title picture so I have no
complaints about that. Love JBL.
Yeah. So I'm looking forward to it.
So somebody that's on the cock, it is on the cock for the next 4
(02:23:19):
weeks, 3 weeks. The countdown on also.
Well, let me let me ask before we move on.
I hope that HK and Duke, I saw Duke in the chat earlier.
I hope you guys really front loaded all your watch.
Alongs we did you know. Good, good call.
Good call. We did.
It's so the problem that we're running into now is we don't
(02:23:39):
know what we're going to do next.
We have we have a couple ideas, but we we Hogan, can you No, you
know what? Thunder in Paradise, maybe
learning the ropes with Lyle Zado.
We there's a whole lot of other wrestling stuff that you can
watch that's not necessarily like, you know, in the ring.
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We thought about Melrose Place. Herman's head.
You got to do 9O21-O leading up to Donna Martin getting a
fucking DWI and Donna Martin graduates.
Might be it could be in the cards.
We have no idea what's going to happen next.
So it's going to be. But we did, yeah.
We front loaded everything for the season, so we'll be fine
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this season. It's just on here, tropical
chimes, and he's saying we got to watch Designing women.
No. We got to be Golden Girls before
designing women. We have no idea where we're
going, but it'll be fun. It'll be fun.
I know that. I've been trying.
I've been trying to prepare you for this for a year now and
everybody ignore it. Nobody ignore it, friends.
Al eat a shit. Friend.
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Oh fuck you, Tropicale. Friends.
Al, you're my friend so I would never say fuck you, but bad
choice buddy. He's my friend too and I would
say fuck you. Yeah, Ditto.
I made the Christmas card twice.Yeah, yeah.
Tropicale's in there too. Yeah, well, not not these two
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schmucks. They'll be in the next one.
They this fucking this guy's notgoing anywhere.
He'll be there. Never say never.
So I want him. I want him there.
I want him there too. I'm worried that this guy's
going to take a shit next to my wife while she's taking a
shower. Oh my God, I'm fucking run in
there as soon as I hear Molly fucking turn on the water.
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I'll wait till I hear the showercurtain close and it's fucking.
All bets are off and I'll think of shit why HK is in the shower.
Oh my God, see him fucking run by with his little troll cock
hanging out? Apparently he's a big pair of
balls. He fucking trips over his nuts
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trying to run out the bathroom. Oh my God I want to drink.
I want to drink with a trans person too, just like HK did.
I know trans trends like trend like fucking droids like.
Friends. Oh friends person.
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Yeah. I'm everybody's friend, yeah.
I. Had a joke.
I had a joke, but I refer. We'll be back next week.
We'll be doing I'm I'm pretty sure we'll be doing a lot of
John Cena talk next week. We have no guests.
We have no, you know what was a bummer too last week?
Oh, after I hit up Luke Gallows,he hit me up the next day.
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He was like, if I'd seen this earlier, I would have come on
the show and I think that would have been a fucking train wreck
too. Of course we would have Luke.
We've had we haven't had good train wrecks in a long time.
That was a lot of fun. Run race was fun.
He was good times, man. He was a good guy.
He. Really.
Was yeah. All the all the guys on the
flock can talk the balls off a brass monkey.
Why you got a dog to guest? What?
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Really. Really.
He gave us a fucking great show tonight.
He was a great It was a great show.
It it I longed for. I didn't even have to read
Brundo's notes. Here did I.
I listen. To the I got that Jordan Oliver
interview coming out. Listen to it today, man.
You were, like, super interestedin talking to Jordan Oliver.
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Yeah, it was. It was MLWI was.
So I was super into MLW at the time.
What were they, the fucking jailbirds?
What the hell was their group injustice?
Injustice, that was. Yeah.
And it was. We had gotten him right after
that click went viral of him andChristian Blake going nuts in
the ring. Yeah.
And yeah. So that was it's I like, I like
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when you're engaged, Tony. I'm married, Sir.
So it's going to be a while if that ever happens.
We're doing John Cena goat stuff.
All your ballots, John Cena goatstuff.
Please write that down. We're doing goat stuff.
All your ballots are in. We have the next class for the
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The yin Yang tomorrow, the 15th and the 25th.
You got three of them this month, people.
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Night, Diana. Well, good.
Fuck him. He deserved it.
What about sex robots? Let's get on the list.
Prove me wrong. Prove me wrong.
Oh my. Have you ever been in that
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fucking position before? I'm coming hard.
Trying to look at her butt. You shouldn't do that.
Bust a nut in Grandma's butt Part 3.
This didn't taste like cookies or pussy.
What the fuck is wrong pussy? It's called a bitch.
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We need the balls that I remember.
I want the. Balls.
From. Emory, right?
I want this balls. I love cops.
Boy, I got to use the bathroom. My kids turned me on.
So does he have AIDS? I just banged a country dude up
the ass. No, somebody playing with the
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plugs. You.
Feeling OK to Cheryl? Oh fucking great.
They're quick in and out. Yourself up the ass homo.
Sexy Kevin to me too you. Will suck my meat.
He's a bro, so you know, pink meat, 9 and 10 years old.
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Oh yeah, that'll go over great. Tony remembers all flatulence.
It looks like he's shedding this.
That's what buddy, the smells don't come from my armpits.
OK. Was that a clip or was that
really mad? Not waffle stomping turkeys.
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How dare you? Unclog your shit hole you dumb
fat fuck. What the fuck?
Yeah, I killed John Cena every once in a while and he tried to
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