April 24, 2025 • 40 mins
The primary focus of our discussion today centers on the critical maintenance of RV slide-outs, ensuring their operation remains smooth and devoid of complications. We delve into essential practices for preserving slide-out mechanisms, emphasizing the importance of preventative care to avert costly repairs and enhance the overall RV experience. Furthermore, we provide valuable insights on locating LP filling stations while traversing the open road, a significant concern for RV enthusiasts. Additionally, our money-saving segment offers strategies for economical dining while embarking on RV adventures, highlighting the benefits of meal planning and utilizing the RV kitchen effectively. We also explore the enchanting destination of Moab, Utah, where breathtaking landscapes and diverse activities await the discerning traveler.
The podcast episode delves into the intricacies of maintaining a smooth and trouble-free RV slide-out system, emphasizing the significance of preventive maintenance in averting common issues that RVers face. The discussion elucidates various aspects, starting with the historical evolution of slide-outs from manual 'tip-outs' to modern automated systems, which, while providing added convenience, introduce new maintenance challenges. The hosts highlight the need for RV owners to familiarize themselves with the specific type of slide-out mechanism their vehicle employs, be it electric or hydraulic, and the corresponding maintenance requirements. They advocate for routine cleaning and lubrication of moving parts, as well as the critical importance of maintaining seals to prevent leaks and ensure the longevity of the slide-out system. Through practical advice and humor, the episode encapsulates the essence of proactive care for RV components, reinforcing the notion that attentive maintenance is paramount for a seamless RV experience.
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(00:00):
In staying on the road today,we're going to talk about keeping
your RV slide out smooth andtrouble free. And then enjoying the
RV life. We're going toexplore finding LP filling stations
while on the road. And then inour money saving tip segment, we're
going to explore eating on thecheap in your rv. And then in the
next stop, we're going to goto the amazing Moab, Utah. And then
(00:23):
in shadows of the past, thetowns that once were. It's Cisco,
Utah this time. And then an RVenvy. We're going to talk about this
brand of slide out sealscalled Flippin Seal. This is Eric
Stark with the Smart RVerpodcast, your trusted source for
tips and insights to embracethe RV lifestyle without worries.
(00:43):
So let's talk everything RVtoday and this is episode 175, so
let's dig right into it. SoAlexis, you're sitting there at the
big giant cup of coffee. Areyou ready to go today?
I am now. I've chugged it alittle bit, so.
I'm good to go, man. Now asmall cup of coffee.
Yes, it is.
Well, that's cool. So we'reready to go. You know what, I don't
(01:07):
have much to say today as weget into this amazing. I know. Well,
early. It's like what, threein the morning now.
Yes, it is.
Yep, something like that. Allright, so yeah, we're gonna just
get right into this. There'salways a rant, but I don't have any
notes today, so we're good.You know, maybe I'll come up with
(01:27):
something, a surprise at theend. Now, before we get into the
meat of all this and get intoenjoying the RV life, I just want
to remind everybody, if you'relooking at buying a new or used rv,
check out wholesalewarranties. If you go to the description
of this podcast, there's alink there. You click on that link,
you fill out the form and youget a free quote. And then you can
(01:47):
start talking to somebodythere and they'll guide you through
the process of getting thebest RV extended warranty that you
could possibly get and makingthe right choice and saving some
cash. And it's all aboutsaving money these days, but doing
it wisely.
Mm.
You know, you don't want tosave money and be stupid about it.
So this is a stupid ice.Probably shouldn't say that word
(02:07):
anymore.
That's not PC.
There goes my thing here now.Anyways, so you want to be smart
about like the smart rver. Socheck out that the link in the description
of this podcast now that'sgoing to bring us to rv. I mean,
enjoying the RV life. Enjoy.And finding propane filling stations
while on the road. So Alexis,this must be a gigantic worldwide
(02:31):
problem and you're gonnaprovide the solution, right?
I am. I'm like Miss America.
Wow.
I'm like world peace and foreverybody to find. LP fill up stations.
Wow.
You better not go there.
Yeah, you know what, it mightnot work. YouTube might not like
it.
Okay, okay. I love it. Okay.This isn't Miss America. This is
(02:54):
the smart rver. So let's talk.So I have this.
Wait a minute. I'm the smart RVer.
Oh, okay, okay, Okay, Igotcha. I thought we were talking
to the audience.
Okay, yeah, they're the smart RVers.
Oh, okay. Yes, I gotcha now.Okay. Well, we want to be knowledgeable
about our propane tanks,right? So that's what we need to
(03:17):
start with is knowing what weneed before we go and fill up. So
knowing your tank size, howmuch you use, monitoring the levels,
all good things to do beforeyou even, you know, go fill up. And
then one thing that can reallyhelp is I found online there's a
ton of apps and tools for youto download that actually help you
(03:38):
find fill up stations ifyou've not been somewhere before.
So a couple of them areGasBuddy, Google Maps. Actually,
if you put, if you plug thatin, it'll tell you where Phillips
stations are. Allstays is areally good website. There's RV Life
Trip wizard, we've talkedabout that before, and a couple others.
But there's a lot of help foron the road. So don't be afraid.
(04:02):
If you've never been somewhereand you, you know, you need to fill
up, you'll be able to findsomething. And usually too, if you're
staying at an RV park, theowners there or, or the other, you
know, RVers will know they'llhelp you out hopefully. Unless they're
really mean. So a few placesyou can just look if you're not going
to use an app are truck stops.Sometimes they have them. Hardware
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stores, U haul locations, farmand ranch stores, and sometimes even
gas stations have propane fillups. So those are just a few places
you can kind of eye and see ifthey have anything for you to be
able to fill up there. Andthen it's always a good thing if
you are planning like a longerroute is to maybe check ahead of
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time and see where you canfill up because you don't want to
get caught without propane andneed it, it's really a good thing
to plan ahead on that. Andthen always we talk about safety
here. When you're handlingpropane, it's, it's important to
be, to be really smart aboutit. So always secure your tanks in
an upright position duringtransport. Check for rust. You want
(05:09):
to check for dents in them.Just do some maintenance just to
make sure you and your familyare safe with that. What else do
you have to say?
Well, I was just going to say,you know, it's. Some of it's obvious,
especially after been gettingpropane for your RV quite a while,
you know, you know, right.Holds and all that kind of stuff,
you know, what you use. Butgetting out on the road sometimes
(05:29):
is the real hassle. Trying tofind it especially you get more remote
areas. So that's one of thoseapps and a little research ahead
of times if you think you'regonna run out. Like Google, we've
seen that works really well.Like that works for dump stations,
all sorts.
Exactly. Yeah.
Divorce, lawyers, everything.But so knowing that in advance, it'll
save some struggles.
(05:50):
Yes.
Because then you're drivingaround this little town trying to
find it somewhere or big city,you know, becomes more of a hassle.
Right.
So just cuts out some of thatwasted time.
And some states have differentregulations for propane. So you got
to, you know, do your researchand know what that is. Just make
sure you're all good.
Yeah, that's true. Some statesyou're not allowed to drive through
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a tunnel if it's X amount offeet long.
Really?
With propane, I mean,everybody does, but.
Yeah. Interesting.
Yeah. Laws. Yeah. Okay, butlaws, who needs those?
We don't care about those.
All right, so that's goodinformation there. And again that'll
be on the website, thesmartrver.com under Enjoying the
(06:31):
RV lifestyle. Yeah, enjoyingthe RV lifestyle. So it'll be there
ready for your eyeballs toread and take in a little bit more.
And it's. I. There's alwaysmore on the website too.
There is.
Bring out here.
Yes.
So that's always good to know.Now the money saving tip for this
episode is eating well on thecheap. So that's using the RV kitchen
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or the kitchen in your rv. Andthat's going to save you some money
because, you know, it's foodhas become kind of a, I don't know,
a thing where the prices havekind of crept. Not kind of crept
up. They've crept up quite abit in the last year or two and it
kind of sneaks into Yourbudget and you don't realize it,
how much money you're spendingon food. Especially like if you don't
(07:15):
ever go to the grocery store.Like if your wife always goes to
the grocery store and younever do. You may be hear about her
complaining, but you're. Yeah, whatever.
Yeah.
Then you go one day to do alittle shopping, all of a sudden,
wait a minute, you know, thiswas a hundred bucks. Didn't even
fill a bag.
Why are eggs $9?
Exactly. Gallon of milk $82.
Yeah.
So those things sneak into thebudget and all of a sudden you know,
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wow, this gets really expensive.
Yes.
And then eating out anymorehas gotten really bad. It's like
an omelet now is $40.
I know.
You know, we can save somemoney. Which saving money makes the
RVing. Well, you can RV more.You can use your RV more, the more
money you save. And it's athing. A nickel here, a quarter there.
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You know, it all adds up. Allthe roadside diners and the places
you see, we could call those abudget buster.
There we go. I like that.
They're going to just ruin it.And then you had a tasty meal, but
half an hour later you forgotabout it.
Right.
The next time you drivethrough that tent, you go, wow, that's
the place where we laid out100 bucks for two of us.
(08:18):
Right.
Wow, that was a mistake. Foodwas good, but there's no point in
breaking the bank when youdon't have to.
No.
So it's meal planning. And youknow, in an rv, sometimes it can
be a little more difficult toplan a big meal or. Or make food
in bulk, I should say. Thatdoesn't even sound attractive. Right.
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Food in bulk, cafeteria style.Big, giant 50 gallon tub of.
I love it.
Cigarette smoking, womanleaning over it, stirring it.
You know, Mac and cheese withlittle ash in there.
There you go. Ash and cheese.
Cheese.
Makes me name like a Hollywoodcouple. Ash and cheese and cheese.
(09:01):
Nice.
All right, so back to realityhere. So sometimes if you plan ahead,
you can bring food with you atleast maybe for the first day or
two if you're gonna be gonefor just a weekend. It makes it real
simple. I know. We always liketo make something for the first day
so that way we don't have toreally mess with it. And then once
we, you know, the next day westart getting into the cooking mode
(09:23):
or doing whatever or havesomething as a backup that can be
part of a meal or a meal byitself if need be.
Yeah.
So planning ahead. And youknow, when you go out on the road,
sometimes grocery stores,you're paying a lot more for the
food. You don't realize howexpensive it can be. You go out of
town. I was a man. Whoa,that's really bad. So buying what
you can at home and cuttingout those trips to the stores, especially
(09:46):
like a convenience store, acampground store, you know, loaf
of bread, $18.
Yeah.
And also in these. A lot ofthese towns, you can find a local
farmers market, if they haveone quite often you can get the fresh
produce and fresh otherthings. Now, you can also blow a
lot of money there if theyhave a lot of knickknacks for sale.
So you got to be careful goingwith a mission, you know?
(10:09):
Yeah.
But you can save some moneythere and get better quality produce.
So that's a good way to do it.Now, another option would be. This
takes us back a few episodes.You can get an insta pot or instant
pot. Just made me think ofthat Shorts about that.
Yeah.
Okay. So the instant pot andso you can make food in bulk, you
(10:29):
know, the one pot wonders or,you know, if it's not an instant
pot, you know, a slow cooker,crock pot type thing.
Same thing. Yeah.
You could make it at home oryou could actually make it in the
rv. Not that big of a deal.Especially if you're an RV park where
you have 110 volts. You letthat baby cook all day, right?
Yeah.
And then that can be a fewmeals, depending on what you make,
(10:50):
how good you cook. You mighteat it one time and that's it. But
it tastes good. Then you canuse it for recycle it, repurpose
for lunch and dinner for thenext day. Doing that saves some money.
It actually makes it easierto. You're cooking one time and then
you're just heating up afterthat. So that's kind of a double
(11:11):
whammy there. You get a couplethings out of it that you maybe weren't
even thinking about. So it'sgetting creative and just looking
at your. Your budget. What.Where you can cut corners on meals.
I couldn't even imaginetraveling with kids today, a family
of like five going to like,even McDonald's. It has to be 100
bucks.
Oh, yeah.
(11:31):
You know, and it's justgarbage food. It's horrible. Another
thing, too would be bottledwater. Get a filter type system like
one of those Britas. Then youcan save on buying bottled water.
That's a good one.
Yeah, that adds up. Then youcan just refill reusable.
That's what we do.
There we go. Now we've, we'vehelped you save a ton of money, so
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now you can enjoy that RV alittle bit more.
You're welcome.
And this full article will beon the website, the smartrverier.com
under money saving tips. Nowthat brings us to staying on the
road, keeping your RV slideout smooth and trouble free. So we're
gonna break this topic up intoseveral different sections, if you
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will, to make it a little biteasier. So we'll go through them
one by one. But, you know,slide outs haven't always been around.
Mm.
Now, some younger RVers, newerRVers, they might think they've been
here forever. Kind of likeyoung people think cell phones have
been around since thebeginning of time. Well, slide outs
used to be called tip outs. Infact, some people still call them
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tip outs today. They do. Sothat was a room that you literally
got in there manually, push itover. It had a lever or something
and you push it out. They werepretty cheesy, but they gave you
some extra space. Yeah, thosethings were bad. But hey, it was
the beginning of something new.
Exactly.
And today we have the modernslide out that, you know, a push
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of a button, it goes out,usually push of a button and sometimes
comes back in. So they've,they've given you some space. But
hey, like everything else thatinvolves technology, it eliminates
one. Well, it wasn't aproblem. You know, you didn't have
as much space in an rv. Thatreally wasn't a problem. It's just
our desire to have more, youknow, more, more, more technology
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came along and created the,the automatic slide rooms that now
give us one more thing to workon, to spend money on. But hey, that
extra time, extra space isworth it. Right? But you know, you've
probably is. If you've beenRVing for any length of time, you've
probably experienced where,you know, you get ready to go or
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put your slide out out, and itdoesn't go out. You get ready to
leave the trip and you go tobring it back in, it doesn't come
in. You know, there's allthese little issues that can come
up, but you want to keep thatslide out working. And sometimes
preventative maintenance canbe such a huge factor in this. And
so we're going to talk aboutslide out maintenance for the next
couple minutes here. We'll tryto go through this quickly because
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I know you guys are the smartRVers and your maintenance experts,
your gurus, but we still gotto cover it. So, you know, it's it's
like I was just saying whereyou hit those buttons and. Or the
button and it doesn't come in,doesn't come out. You know, you're.
You just get to yourcampground, you've been driving all
day, and man, you just want toget in there and kind of get that
RV put together so you canjust chill out. Now, long drive,
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you know, you ran off a cliff,ran over a dog, all sorts of stuff.
And you hit the button and theslide room doesn't move. Ah, man.
All right, so you go that youhave two slide rooms. You hit the
other button. Well, it goesout. Okay. Half the battle's won
now, but you still got thatother one. Now what is that? Is that
a button? Is the switch bad?Is a fuse blown?
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It's karma for hitting the dog.
There you go, payback. Isthat, you know, a problem you can
solve right there? Is that aproblem you could have prevented?
And the same goes true forbringing it back in. Let's say it
did go out when you hit theswitch, and then it's time to leave.
You've been there for threedays. You're sick and tired of the
campground where you're at.You know, all the dogs are bothering
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you because you killed one oftheir brethren. And so it's time
to go. You hit that switch andthat room doesn't come in. Oh, man.
Now what? You know, just get achainsaw and cut it off.
Yeah.
You know, you have your spouseout there pushing on it. Push harder,
push harder as you're hittingthe switch. You know, so sometimes
a little bit of preventivemaintenance can save, you know, hundreds
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of dollars in repair or eventhousands. So we call that tlc, I
think, Tender Loving Care.Taking care of that slide room like
it's a little baby. So thatpreventative maintenance is very
important. And it's alwaysneglected. Well, always. My wife
tells me not to say alwaysbecause when I do that, it's exaggeration.
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A lot of times it's exactly,it's. It's neglected, just like everything
else. You know, we're going totalk about in another episode about
maintenance. And it's a lot ofthings that are just neglected. Let
me look at your house. Howmany things you neglect?
Yeah.
How many things you walk by? Mana.
Right, right.
Okay. So first off, to reallybe able to maintain your slide out
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system, it's good to know whattype you have. You know, not all
slides are equal. One of thething that we've talk about here
in our store and on the showis that when you're in your RV and
you're looking at a light,let's say on the ceiling, and maybe
this is your first or secondRV and it happens to be the same
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light in your second rv, butin your first rv you might think
that every RV has the samelights in it. And it's not that way.
You know, RVs have a zilliondifferent lights in them. Just like
slide rooms, they'redifferent. So don't assume your slide
is the same as every otherslide. There's difference. If you
bought a new rv, more thanlikely the slide room mechanism would
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be different. If not anythingelse. It might be the same brand
but different components. Sothey're not, you know, one, one motor
doesn't fit all if you will.So understanding that whether your
slide room is electric orhydraulic is important. These little
things will help you in yourmaintenance where if it's hydraulic,
you know you're going to wantto check the hydraulic fluid, know
what type of fluid goes inthere. It's generally transm fluid.
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But knowing that before youneed it and having some on hand is
half the battle sometimes.Because I know, I've seen that we're
out installing awnings and yougot to bring the slide room out or
in and it doesn't work. Andthe guy's, you know, panicking now,
he doesn't know what fluidgoes in there, doesn't have anything.
It turns into kind of a threering circus. As patient as I am.
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Yeah, you know, that gets oldquick. So having it figured out beforehand
and then it could be 12 voltbut knowing where the motors are
at the fuse is. Do you have acontrol box for it? You know, most
of the modern ones have acircuit board, if you will, or the
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buttons that you press,they're part of a little panel, a
display that knowing that isit replaceable? Having a bead on
this stuff in advance savessome problems and a little bit of
understanding this stuff. Ifyou can get the schematics or the
instructions from themanufacturer of the RV or the slide
out system so you know,what's, how this stuff works. And
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it doesn't mean you're goingto be out there in the field on a
camp trip, you know, tearingapart your rv, fixing it. But it
gives you a clue like if youhit the button, nothing happens.
Okay, is there a fusesomeplace? That's probably the easiest
thing to check. Yeah, so justhaving an understanding of it, that's
it's important. It's like Isay that about your entire rv, you
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know, if you just take it, youknow, compartmentalize it or segment
it, slide outs, the sliderooms, your leveling jacks, you know,
they're all different systems,but they all require something. But
knowing about them in advance,having those manuals on your phone
or printing them out in abinder, whatever works for you, it
definitely pays off. And evenwith technicians, sometimes, if they
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have to come out, their timeis money, and you're paying for them
to ask a whole lot ofquestions, kind of do some basic
groundwork exploration so theycan get a beat on it. Because they
can't look at your RV and go,that's a Swintech 2202. It doesn't
work that way.
Right.
So you can be a little morearmed and kind of intimidate the
tech a little bit. Like, hey,I know what I'm talking about here.
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Then they're not as inclinedto, you know, over billiard, another
word for that. But I'm notgoing to use it today.
Okay.
It'd be nice. All right. Soroutine maintenance, this is important.
It's really very practical toget in the routine maintenance mode.
I mean, it's an rv, so there'sa lot of maintenance already associated
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with it. Some of it's annual,some of it's biannual. But, you know,
slide out maintenance shouldjust be kind of a several times a
year type of thing. That'sgoing to help you avoid those oh
moments now those momentsbecome memories. Good or bad is up
to you.
Usually bad.
So one of the things to reallyfocus on would be keeping the mechanisms
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clean, you know, or the. Yeah,the mechanisms. It depends on your
slide room. Some of them havealuminum tracks on the wall of the
slide out on the outside. Someof them have everything underneath.
Some of them have cables. Butkeeping the roof clean of all the
debris that can build up thereand wash it if you can. Because you
know what happens when youbring that room. And if there's stuff
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up there, it goes inside, itwears out those seals, and it ends
up inside. But it can actuallykeep it from not sealing properly.
So that's a problem rightthere. And if you get enough of it,
it could actually jam up theslide out. Yeah, it might go in and
out, but it gets to a certainpoint where it kind of sticks. And,
you know, I see that a lot.Slide room sticking. It's like, I'm
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afraid, even hit the switchessometimes, but clean the roof of
the slide out. So that's oneof the things. And then, you know,
the sides of it just treat itlike it's a car, I guess. You know,
wash it, take care of it.You're not going to wax it? Well,
you might wax the sides ifit's fiberglass, but you're going
to use your rubber roofcoating on it. Some of them are hard
to get to because the lengthof them.
Right.
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But you know, a brush and someingenuity will make that happen.
Any moving parts on the slideout should be lubricated. So that
would be the mechanisms. If ithas the aluminum tracks on the side,
those definitely are a teflontype thing because you don't want
to put grease on those. Thoseare very exposed underneath. And
I say that because, you knowyou're just going to get. Get the
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grease on you. It'll be a mess.
Right.
Spray silicone is much morefriendly because it doesn't attract
dirt, doesn't build up likegrease wood. And there's products
made for lubricating slide outmechanism. And so underneath you
have gears, you have rods, youhave shafts, you have wheels, you
have stuff. All that needs tobe lubricated. Think about that and
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clean them off. And it'sprobably best to give them a nice
cleaning at least once a yearto get any dirt and, you know, crud
that builds up there, stufffrom the road and everything, keep
it nice and clean. And even ifit works, you're thinking, well,
that's not a lot of dirt, butit's crunching, it's slowly ruining
the gears. It gets inside themotors because it does pick it up.
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It's amazing how dirt getseverywhere when we don't think it
really should.
Yeah.
So it works its way into themotors, ruins the motor. If you got
power gear motors, well, youcould be looking at a thousand bucks
easy just for a motor. So youwant to avoid that. So that's the
mechanism, the things thathelp keeping that slide out in and
out. Now, the seals around itare very important. They last for
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years. But when it's time toreplace those, if you have to do
it prematurely, they can bevery expensive. Some slide rooms
have to come completely out ofthe RV to do it. And those seals
are important because theykeep water out, they keep air out.
You know, we just had one inour shop the other day. And you know,
the slide rooms halfway in andout, man, it's just broad daylight
(23:10):
looking through there.
Yeah.
Like, so they need. Thattrailer needed a lot of stuff. Yeah.
5 gallons of gas and a match Ithink would be the better solution
for that. It was justneglected that that Trailer was actually
the epitome of neglect.Everything we did to it was just
maintenance because it hadbeen neglected. All the problems
were from just flat out neglect.
(23:31):
Right.
Regular maintenance. So thatmaintenance pays off to do it yourself.
It pays off the shop when theyhave to do it for you. So you want
to save that money so you cango on more RV trips. So the seals
you want to use, the dressing,whatever you want to call it, I can't
think of the word right now,but you spray it on, it cleans the
als. Something like 303 workson that. Or you can buy something
(23:55):
more specifically for it, arubber conditioner, which, you know,
most RV stores carry that typeof stuff. 303 works really well,
but the conditioners are mademore for it specifically, so they'll
have different agents oradditives in there that will perform
better. Now, if you have aslide room, you want to make sure
if you're dry camping, thatyour batteries are fully charged,
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not only when you get there,but when you leave. So you can bring
it in and out. So that'ssomething to pay very close attention
to. And if your slide room ismaking noises when it goes in, goes
out, it's catching, rubbing,bumping, drops off a little bit.
Those things aren't alwaysnormal, and they can be the sign
(24:37):
of a potential problem. So youwant to make sure that you're looking
at that and correcting that.And if it's out of your skill set,
just take it to a trustedrepair center and let them look at
it. You don't want this thingto fail on you when you're out camping.
And they do, you know. And notall slide rooms are the easiest thing
(24:57):
to get back in. Even whenthey're designed for a manual override,
they can become a nightmare,like some of the ones with cables.
It's almost a joke what theygive you to bring that thing in,
if you can even get to themotor if it fails on you and what
you have to do to do that. Soyou almost have to build something
in advance to make sure youcan work around that. So that was
(25:18):
slide rooms with cables. Otherones are supposed to have cranks.
Most RVers never know wheretheir crank is. They can't find it,
don't know what it looks like.So get this stuff ironed out in advance.
So listen, look and makerepairs as needed. If it's beyond
your skill set, like I said,take it in and don't let it drag
on and get worse and worse andworse. Sometimes a small little problem
(25:41):
can turn Into a very bigproblem. Ruin a trip, cost you more
money. Destroy flooring. Itcould be a mechanism, now that's
tearing something else up. Bethe smart rver. This stuff isn't
rocket science, but it doestake maintenance. And now there are
some do it yourself fixes aswell. You know, when something goes
wrong, you can jump in and fixit. Like maybe if it's not moving,
(26:04):
you hit that switch. The slideout doesn't move. Is it the battery?
You know, we touched on that alittle bit. Is it dead? Is it weak?
Can you start up the RV or thetow vehicle and get it plugged in?
Or a generator and get some 12volt juice pumping back into that
baby and bring it in? If it'shydraulic, is it low on fluid? So
those are some simple littlethings. You know, a fuse, a bad circuit
(26:27):
breaker could be anotherissue. If you know where they're
at and kind of know how to doit. It seems like a lot of RVers
kind of figure out the slideout thing to a degree. You know,
they get to a point where it'sgot to be this and quite often they're
right. Most RVers have apretty good beat on this. I guess
if you're bringing in yourslide room or taking it out, Is it
stuck part way? Did it justlike stop or did it kind of grind
(26:49):
to a hole? So that could besomething stuck in the tracks, Debris,
dirt. You know, maybe your,your RV is really unlevel and it's
just throwing it off. It can'thandle that. I mean, generally that
isn't a problem, but it canbe. Check those things out, check
for debris and stuff. Moveyour rv if you've already leveled
(27:10):
it, maybe adjust your jacksagain, you know, do something and
try to do it. And if youabsolutely can't figure it out, then
hopefully you have a manualoverride and you can bring it in
and, and get it taken care ofor, or extend it the rest of the
way if you're confident thatyou'll be able to get it back in.
And then when you get under orback home, you get it fixed. Now
if it's, you know, catching,making those noises like I brought
(27:32):
out earlier, you knowsomething's wrong and you want to
take care of that. Especiallyif it's like a motor or gear, if
it's a little out of whack andit starts making noise, it might
be salvageable. You can adjustthat or clean it out. Maybe the motor
is actually loose and it'scausing a problem. And if you Catch
that early enough, you canavoid buying a new motor or a gear
(27:54):
set, but generally it's themotor. Well, the gear is in the motor.
It's all a package deal. Youcan't buy one without the other.
So that costs a fortune. Ifit's like I said, it was power gear.
Other ones become sometimesmore difficult, like some of the
Schwintek ones on a lot of theRVs, those are now owned by Lippert.
They're just selling a new kitfor it. It's an upgrade, a retrofit
(28:17):
kit, because the other oneshad built in problems. So now the
problems are supposedly, youknow, resolved. Those kits are 1400
bucks on the cheap.
Wow.
They're probably 16, 1800 inthe real world, on the cheap, they're
1400. You know, if you havewater leaks, check those seals, fix
them up, don't let that go.Water destroys everything. I can't
(28:40):
emphasize that enough. So ifyou have to, you know, do something
to get you through a trip, butwhen you get home, take care of that.
Don't let it go. It's alwaysbetter to take care of this stuff
when you can at home ratherthan try to. I'm going to wait until
I get on my trip and do it.You get busy with other things. You're
on vacation, man. Take care ofat home before you ever get out.
(29:01):
And if all these other thingsaren't working for you and you absolutely
can't figure it out, take itinto a shop and let them fix it.
If there's a problem with it,sometimes you just have to raise
that white flag and surrenderand pay the money. Or if you're just
starting out, like, you know,I haven't done anything with my slide
(29:21):
out, I'm going to take it intoa shop and see what they would charge
to kind of get me squared up.Clean it all up, do those slide seals,
the mechanisms, and then fromthere on out, I'm going to maintain
it. You probably don't need todo that. You can probably just do
it yourself. But hey, whateverworks. You know that it'll give you
that extra confidence. So it'sabout saving money but not being
(29:42):
ridiculous about it. You tryto save too much money and you end
up spending more money.
Right, Exactly.
That's something I've learnedin life. You start trying to save
money and man, that just costme twice as much because I didn't
do it right. I tried too hard.Right. So since we're all part of
the smart rver family, we'regoing to Work at this together and
we'll keep these pointers andtips coming. And also, you can see
(30:06):
this entire article on ourwebsite, the smartrver.com. there's
much more to it than what Isaid. Here, check that out. It's
actually a better read than metalking about it as well. It's like
a novel, a mystery novel. TheMysterious slide out. So again, check
it out on the website. Nowthat you've got your slide outs all
(30:28):
dialed in the first placeyou're going to want to go is to
Moab, Utah.
Yes.
And Alexis is going to tell uswhy you want to go to Moab. Wow.
It's like the moon there, right?
Yeah, it is.
Like going to the moon orMars, kind of. Maybe Elon Musk there.
Well, Elon, there you go.
So lay it on us, Alexis.
Okay. Today we're delving intothe desert diaries. That's what I
(30:52):
call this. We're gonna go toMoab, Utah. Like Eric said, a desert
gem where history, adventureand jaw dropping, jaw dropping landscapes
collide. That was a mouthful.So this place is nestled in the American
Southwest. Moab story kicksoff in the 1850s with Mormon settlers
(31:14):
along the Old Spanish Trail.It's a little history for you. By
1878, it was officially born.Named for its for a biblical land
that mirrors its rugged, aridvibe, Moab. Fast forward to the 1950s.
Uranium turned the sleepylittle town into a mining boom town,
(31:35):
earning the title Uraniumcapital of the World. So that's kind
of interesting. Littlebackground on Moab. So Moab is a
magnet for over 2 millionvisitors a year. You might ask why?
And it's for two reasons. TheArches and the Canyonlands. So these
national parks flaunt rockformations that are just incredible.
(31:59):
Adventure junkies also like tohit the Slickrock trail for epic
mountain biking. That's a bigthing there. The Colorado river rapids.
Or you can check out Hell'srevenge in a 4x4. That's pretty cool.
You need to Google pictures ifyou haven't seen that. And then Moab
has got a lot of charm too.They have a lot of art festivals
(32:21):
during the summer. Neapolitanpizza at the Anteca Forma. That's
incredible. That got reallygood reviews. I looked that up because
I love pizza. And then you canalso schedule stargazing under a
dark sky certified night. Thisis cool. It's a guided trip that
you go out in the dark andit's just incredible. There's no
(32:44):
stargazing like it. So prettyneat things you can do there. Of
course, there's a lot of rv RVparks as well. Those are listed in
the article. I'll let you lookat that later. But from Native American
petroglyphs to uranium stainedpast, Moab blends frontier grit with
modern allure. So this is yournext stop. This is your assignment.
(33:06):
Smart RVers check out Moab andmaybe put it on your list of places
to go.
Yeah, it's interesting. Inever really thought of it more than
anything. More than fourwheeling and mountain biking.
Yeah.
Uranium. All the history there.
I know there's a lot.
Now, I have been torestaurants. Right. I know. I've
seen this on the menu. Wouldyou call it Hell's? What?
(33:26):
Hell's Revenge.
Hell's Revenge. Yeah.
Yeah. Big thing there.
Yeah, It's Mexican food place,I think in San Pedro, California
is right on the menu. Hell's Revenge.
But that was spicy.
I didn't try it.
That's good. You would haveregretted it.
And they didn't have abathroom there.
Oh, yikes. Nope.
So that's pretty interesting.It is a very popular place.
(33:48):
Very. Yes.
And I wouldn't let the. The.The off roading and the mountain
biking intimidate you from notgoing because maybe you're not into
that, but it's worth seeing.It's a gorgeous area.
Oh, yeah.
So many other places in Utah could.
Just walk around it, you know.
So it's definitely worth goingto and seeing.
(34:10):
Yeah.
Checking out. So that's highon our list. And so there's more
on the website as well. Go tothe next stop. There's the full article.
Everything there. The fullbanana. Maps, the whole nine yards.
That's right.
That's right. Maps andeverything else you need.
I like that. The full banana.That's funny.
Full banana. All right, so nowthis is going to bring us to the
(34:30):
next part of the show, Shadowsof the Past. And so let's take a
look at this. So as I pull outthe another page of the book I have
from Grandpappy Popeye, it'sgot an interesting little read here.
This one's kind of short, butlet's just get right into it. All
(34:51):
right, so we're going to lookat Cisco, Utah. It's a dusty speck
in the desert that seen betterdays. And so much of the desert has
seen better days, I think. Butpicture this. It's the 1880s, and
Cisco Springs to life as awater stop for the Denver and Rio
Grande Western Railroad. Steamlocomotives chug through, filling
(35:14):
up for the town's wells whilecattle ranchers and sheepherders
turned this remote outpostinto a bustling hub. By the early
20th century, Cisco's gotsaloons, a hotel, and even a post
office. Small but thriving inits own rugged way. Then the twist.
(35:35):
The railroad switched toDiesel in the 1950s, and those thirsty
steam engines rolled intohistory. No more water stops. No
more Cisco. The interstatesealed its fate, bypassing the town
entirely. By the 1990s, it wasa ghost town, abandoned shacks, rusted
(35:57):
cars, and tumbleweeds takingover. But here's the kicker. In 2015,
an artist named Eileen Muzabought Cisco, turning it into an
offbeat haven for creatives.Today, it's got murals, a skate park,
and an artist residency. Proofthat even in the silence of the desert,
(36:20):
a new story can emerge.Cisco's a shadow of the past, but
it's still whispering to thosewho listen. Now, that sounds pretty
cool. Yeah, I like that.
That was good.
I wouldn't mind going there.
Me neither.
That's interesting, because wehave another one coming up in a couple
episodes about one personowning a town.
(36:40):
Very cool.
And, you know, I think it'salways cool when someone buys a town.
Yeah, I'd like to buy a town.
Wouldn't that be neat?
It would be. I don't know whatI'd do with it, but it'd be fun.
But you could just say you owna town, right?
Probably all sorts of legalthings you need to know, and if you
don't know them, you'reprobably in all sorts of trouble.
Yeah, that's true.
Yeah. Might have a governmentagency coming after you.
Yeah.
(37:01):
All right, so that will alsobe in the. On the website as well,
in the smart rver in shadowsof the past.
Yes, sir.
On the website. Yeah. Yeah,you're correct.
It is.
All right, so now that bringsus to RV envy. And we're going to
talk about flipping Seal. Now,that's quite the name, right?
It sounds funny. You gotta getyour flipping seal.
(37:25):
That's right. Some people workthat way, right? Flipping this, flipping
that. So this is a flippingseal. So Flip and Seal is owned by
Jagger Unitech. In fact,there's gonna be a link to their
website in the description ofthis podcast. So Flip and Seal makes
(37:48):
all these different seals forslide outs. And you know what's interesting
is they make ones that aren'tlike what everybody else has. They're.
They're different. I thinkthey're for a lot of newer RVs, and
new RVs don't always need newseals, but from time to time, they
do tear. But they also haveseals that fit older ones. They have
this great selection. So inthe world of RVs and slide rooms,
(38:11):
there's not just one seal thatfits all. Sometimes you need a selection
of four or five differentcompanies to find the one that works
on your rv. And sometimes younever find an exact replacement.
So you have to find somethingthat's close. Now, someone came in
our store the other day, isactually a mobile tech and he had
a seal that looked pretty odd.It happened. It turned out flippin
(38:32):
seal had it. And they actuallysent us a display box of all their
seals so we could hold itright up to the old one or compare
it to a picture. Makes lifeeasier. So if you have an RV and
you need some seals, well,check out flip and seal. They might
be able to solve or be heroesfor the day. Solve your problem.
(38:53):
So again, the link will be onour website. Now that's bringing
us to the end of the show. AndI just want to give everybody one
final reminder here aboutwholesale warranties. Go to the link
in the description, follow it,get a free quote, talk to them and
save some money and get thebest RV extended warranty on the
planet. So our next episode isgoing to be 176. So we're gaining
(39:16):
traction here. We're almost atthe 200 mark. I don't know what that
means though. Like, do we getanything? Surprised we get an award.
You get a flipping seal.
I already got one.
Oh, okay.
That sucks. So just as alittle tidbit to throw out there
too. If you have a powertongue jack, make sure you have a
(39:40):
cover on it to protect theelectronics, especially a lot of
the newer ones, they havetouch pads on them and all these
little things, they getdestroyed in the sun and the elements.
So get a cover for it and keepthat baby covered. Even if you just
throw a towel over it.Something keep the sun off it at
the bare minimum. But having anice cover for it works great. You
know they're under 20 bucks.Most RV stores have them. So cover
(40:02):
that tongue jack. Even if youhave a manual one, it's good to keep
the water and dirt and stuffout of those gears that makes problems.
And they feel kind of like aslide room.
Exactly.
So I think we've come to theend of the show. So this is Eric
stark with the smart rverpodcast, your go to guide for smarter
RVing and unforgettableadventures on the open road.
In staying on the road today,we're going to talk about keeping
your RV slide out smooth andtrouble free. And then enjoying the
RV life. We're going toexplore finding LP filling stations
while on the road. And then inour money saving tip segment, we're
going to explore eating on thecheap in your rv. And then in the
next stop, we're going to goto the amazing Moab, Utah. And then
(00:23):
in shadows of the past, thetowns that once were. It's Cisco,
Utah this time. And then an RVenvy. We're going to talk about this
brand of slide out sealscalled Flippin Seal. This is Eric
Stark with the Smart RVerpodcast, your trusted source for
tips and insights to embracethe RV lifestyle without worries.
(00:43):
So let's talk everything RVtoday and this is episode 175, so
let's dig right into it. SoAlexis, you're sitting there at the
big giant cup of coffee. Areyou ready to go today?
I am now. I've chugged it alittle bit, so.
I'm good to go, man. Now asmall cup of coffee.
Yes, it is.
Well, that's cool. So we'reready to go. You know what, I don't
(01:07):
have much to say today as weget into this amazing. I know. Well,
early. It's like what, threein the morning now.
Yes, it is.
Yep, something like that. Allright, so yeah, we're gonna just
get right into this. There'salways a rant, but I don't have any
notes today, so we're good.You know, maybe I'll come up with
(01:27):
something, a surprise at theend. Now, before we get into the
meat of all this and get intoenjoying the RV life, I just want
to remind everybody, if you'relooking at buying a new or used rv,
check out wholesalewarranties. If you go to the description
of this podcast, there's alink there. You click on that link,
you fill out the form and youget a free quote. And then you can
(01:47):
start talking to somebodythere and they'll guide you through
the process of getting thebest RV extended warranty that you
could possibly get and makingthe right choice and saving some
cash. And it's all aboutsaving money these days, but doing
it wisely.
Mm.
You know, you don't want tosave money and be stupid about it.
So this is a stupid ice.Probably shouldn't say that word
(02:07):
anymore.
That's not PC.
There goes my thing here now.Anyways, so you want to be smart
about like the smart rver. Socheck out that the link in the description
of this podcast now that'sgoing to bring us to rv. I mean,
enjoying the RV life. Enjoy.And finding propane filling stations
while on the road. So Alexis,this must be a gigantic worldwide
(02:31):
problem and you're gonnaprovide the solution, right?
I am. I'm like Miss America.
Wow.
I'm like world peace and foreverybody to find. LP fill up stations.
Wow.
You better not go there.
Yeah, you know what, it mightnot work. YouTube might not like
it.
Okay, okay. I love it. Okay.This isn't Miss America. This is
(02:54):
the smart rver. So let's talk.So I have this.
Wait a minute. I'm the smart RVer.
Oh, okay, okay, Okay, Igotcha. I thought we were talking
to the audience.
Okay, yeah, they're the smart RVers.
Oh, okay. Yes, I gotcha now.Okay. Well, we want to be knowledgeable
about our propane tanks,right? So that's what we need to
(03:17):
start with is knowing what weneed before we go and fill up. So
knowing your tank size, howmuch you use, monitoring the levels,
all good things to do beforeyou even, you know, go fill up. And
then one thing that can reallyhelp is I found online there's a
ton of apps and tools for youto download that actually help you
(03:38):
find fill up stations ifyou've not been somewhere before.
So a couple of them areGasBuddy, Google Maps. Actually,
if you put, if you plug thatin, it'll tell you where Phillips
stations are. Allstays is areally good website. There's RV Life
Trip wizard, we've talkedabout that before, and a couple others.
But there's a lot of help foron the road. So don't be afraid.
(04:02):
If you've never been somewhereand you, you know, you need to fill
up, you'll be able to findsomething. And usually too, if you're
staying at an RV park, theowners there or, or the other, you
know, RVers will know they'llhelp you out hopefully. Unless they're
really mean. So a few placesyou can just look if you're not going
to use an app are truck stops.Sometimes they have them. Hardware
(04:24):
stores, U haul locations, farmand ranch stores, and sometimes even
gas stations have propane fillups. So those are just a few places
you can kind of eye and see ifthey have anything for you to be
able to fill up there. Andthen it's always a good thing if
you are planning like a longerroute is to maybe check ahead of
(04:46):
time and see where you canfill up because you don't want to
get caught without propane andneed it, it's really a good thing
to plan ahead on that. Andthen always we talk about safety
here. When you're handlingpropane, it's, it's important to
be, to be really smart aboutit. So always secure your tanks in
an upright position duringtransport. Check for rust. You want
(05:09):
to check for dents in them.Just do some maintenance just to
make sure you and your familyare safe with that. What else do
you have to say?
Well, I was just going to say,you know, it's. Some of it's obvious,
especially after been gettingpropane for your RV quite a while,
you know, you know, right.Holds and all that kind of stuff,
you know, what you use. Butgetting out on the road sometimes
(05:29):
is the real hassle. Trying tofind it especially you get more remote
areas. So that's one of thoseapps and a little research ahead
of times if you think you'regonna run out. Like Google, we've
seen that works really well.Like that works for dump stations,
all sorts.
Exactly. Yeah.
Divorce, lawyers, everything.But so knowing that in advance, it'll
save some struggles.
(05:50):
Yes.
Because then you're drivingaround this little town trying to
find it somewhere or big city,you know, becomes more of a hassle.
Right.
So just cuts out some of thatwasted time.
And some states have differentregulations for propane. So you got
to, you know, do your researchand know what that is. Just make
sure you're all good.
Yeah, that's true. Some statesyou're not allowed to drive through
(06:10):
a tunnel if it's X amount offeet long.
Really?
With propane, I mean,everybody does, but.
Yeah. Interesting.
Yeah. Laws. Yeah. Okay, butlaws, who needs those?
We don't care about those.
All right, so that's goodinformation there. And again that'll
be on the website, thesmartrver.com under Enjoying the
(06:31):
RV lifestyle. Yeah, enjoyingthe RV lifestyle. So it'll be there
ready for your eyeballs toread and take in a little bit more.
And it's. I. There's alwaysmore on the website too.
There is.
Bring out here.
Yes.
So that's always good to know.Now the money saving tip for this
episode is eating well on thecheap. So that's using the RV kitchen
(06:54):
or the kitchen in your rv. Andthat's going to save you some money
because, you know, it's foodhas become kind of a, I don't know,
a thing where the prices havekind of crept. Not kind of crept
up. They've crept up quite abit in the last year or two and it
kind of sneaks into Yourbudget and you don't realize it,
how much money you're spendingon food. Especially like if you don't
(07:15):
ever go to the grocery store.Like if your wife always goes to
the grocery store and younever do. You may be hear about her
complaining, but you're. Yeah, whatever.
Yeah.
Then you go one day to do alittle shopping, all of a sudden,
wait a minute, you know, thiswas a hundred bucks. Didn't even
fill a bag.
Why are eggs $9?
Exactly. Gallon of milk $82.
Yeah.
So those things sneak into thebudget and all of a sudden you know,
(07:37):
wow, this gets really expensive.
Yes.
And then eating out anymorehas gotten really bad. It's like
an omelet now is $40.
I know.
You know, we can save somemoney. Which saving money makes the
RVing. Well, you can RV more.You can use your RV more, the more
money you save. And it's athing. A nickel here, a quarter there.
(07:57):
You know, it all adds up. Allthe roadside diners and the places
you see, we could call those abudget buster.
There we go. I like that.
They're going to just ruin it.And then you had a tasty meal, but
half an hour later you forgotabout it.
Right.
The next time you drivethrough that tent, you go, wow, that's
the place where we laid out100 bucks for two of us.
(08:18):
Right.
Wow, that was a mistake. Foodwas good, but there's no point in
breaking the bank when youdon't have to.
No.
So it's meal planning. And youknow, in an rv, sometimes it can
be a little more difficult toplan a big meal or. Or make food
in bulk, I should say. Thatdoesn't even sound attractive. Right.
(08:38):
Food in bulk, cafeteria style.Big, giant 50 gallon tub of.
I love it.
Cigarette smoking, womanleaning over it, stirring it.
You know, Mac and cheese withlittle ash in there.
There you go. Ash and cheese.
Cheese.
Makes me name like a Hollywoodcouple. Ash and cheese and cheese.
(09:01):
Nice.
All right, so back to realityhere. So sometimes if you plan ahead,
you can bring food with you atleast maybe for the first day or
two if you're gonna be gonefor just a weekend. It makes it real
simple. I know. We always liketo make something for the first day
so that way we don't have toreally mess with it. And then once
we, you know, the next day westart getting into the cooking mode
(09:23):
or doing whatever or havesomething as a backup that can be
part of a meal or a meal byitself if need be.
Yeah.
So planning ahead. And youknow, when you go out on the road,
sometimes grocery stores,you're paying a lot more for the
food. You don't realize howexpensive it can be. You go out of
town. I was a man. Whoa,that's really bad. So buying what
you can at home and cuttingout those trips to the stores, especially
(09:46):
like a convenience store, acampground store, you know, loaf
of bread, $18.
Yeah.
And also in these. A lot ofthese towns, you can find a local
farmers market, if they haveone quite often you can get the fresh
produce and fresh otherthings. Now, you can also blow a
lot of money there if theyhave a lot of knickknacks for sale.
So you got to be careful goingwith a mission, you know?
(10:09):
Yeah.
But you can save some moneythere and get better quality produce.
So that's a good way to do it.Now, another option would be. This
takes us back a few episodes.You can get an insta pot or instant
pot. Just made me think ofthat Shorts about that.
Yeah.
Okay. So the instant pot andso you can make food in bulk, you
(10:29):
know, the one pot wonders or,you know, if it's not an instant
pot, you know, a slow cooker,crock pot type thing.
Same thing. Yeah.
You could make it at home oryou could actually make it in the
rv. Not that big of a deal.Especially if you're an RV park where
you have 110 volts. You letthat baby cook all day, right?
Yeah.
And then that can be a fewmeals, depending on what you make,
(10:50):
how good you cook. You mighteat it one time and that's it. But
it tastes good. Then you canuse it for recycle it, repurpose
for lunch and dinner for thenext day. Doing that saves some money.
It actually makes it easierto. You're cooking one time and then
you're just heating up afterthat. So that's kind of a double
(11:11):
whammy there. You get a couplethings out of it that you maybe weren't
even thinking about. So it'sgetting creative and just looking
at your. Your budget. What.Where you can cut corners on meals.
I couldn't even imaginetraveling with kids today, a family
of like five going to like,even McDonald's. It has to be 100
bucks.
Oh, yeah.
(11:31):
You know, and it's justgarbage food. It's horrible. Another
thing, too would be bottledwater. Get a filter type system like
one of those Britas. Then youcan save on buying bottled water.
That's a good one.
Yeah, that adds up. Then youcan just refill reusable.
That's what we do.
There we go. Now we've, we'vehelped you save a ton of money, so
(11:51):
now you can enjoy that RV alittle bit more.
You're welcome.
And this full article will beon the website, the smartrverier.com
under money saving tips. Nowthat brings us to staying on the
road, keeping your RV slideout smooth and trouble free. So we're
gonna break this topic up intoseveral different sections, if you
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will, to make it a little biteasier. So we'll go through them
one by one. But, you know,slide outs haven't always been around.
Mm.
Now, some younger RVers, newerRVers, they might think they've been
here forever. Kind of likeyoung people think cell phones have
been around since thebeginning of time. Well, slide outs
used to be called tip outs. Infact, some people still call them
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tip outs today. They do. Sothat was a room that you literally
got in there manually, push itover. It had a lever or something
and you push it out. They werepretty cheesy, but they gave you
some extra space. Yeah, thosethings were bad. But hey, it was
the beginning of something new.
Exactly.
And today we have the modernslide out that, you know, a push
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of a button, it goes out,usually push of a button and sometimes
comes back in. So they've,they've given you some space. But
hey, like everything else thatinvolves technology, it eliminates
one. Well, it wasn't aproblem. You know, you didn't have
as much space in an rv. Thatreally wasn't a problem. It's just
our desire to have more, youknow, more, more, more technology
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came along and created the,the automatic slide rooms that now
give us one more thing to workon, to spend money on. But hey, that
extra time, extra space isworth it. Right? But you know, you've
probably is. If you've beenRVing for any length of time, you've
probably experienced where,you know, you get ready to go or
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put your slide out out, and itdoesn't go out. You get ready to
leave the trip and you go tobring it back in, it doesn't come
in. You know, there's allthese little issues that can come
up, but you want to keep thatslide out working. And sometimes
preventative maintenance canbe such a huge factor in this. And
so we're going to talk aboutslide out maintenance for the next
couple minutes here. We'll tryto go through this quickly because
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I know you guys are the smartRVers and your maintenance experts,
your gurus, but we still gotto cover it. So, you know, it's it's
like I was just saying whereyou hit those buttons and. Or the
button and it doesn't come in,doesn't come out. You know, you're.
You just get to yourcampground, you've been driving all
day, and man, you just want toget in there and kind of get that
RV put together so you canjust chill out. Now, long drive,
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you know, you ran off a cliff,ran over a dog, all sorts of stuff.
And you hit the button and theslide room doesn't move. Ah, man.
All right, so you go that youhave two slide rooms. You hit the
other button. Well, it goesout. Okay. Half the battle's won
now, but you still got thatother one. Now what is that? Is that
a button? Is the switch bad?Is a fuse blown?
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It's karma for hitting the dog.
There you go, payback. Isthat, you know, a problem you can
solve right there? Is that aproblem you could have prevented?
And the same goes true forbringing it back in. Let's say it
did go out when you hit theswitch, and then it's time to leave.
You've been there for threedays. You're sick and tired of the
campground where you're at.You know, all the dogs are bothering
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you because you killed one oftheir brethren. And so it's time
to go. You hit that switch andthat room doesn't come in. Oh, man.
Now what? You know, just get achainsaw and cut it off.
Yeah.
You know, you have your spouseout there pushing on it. Push harder,
push harder as you're hittingthe switch. You know, so sometimes
a little bit of preventivemaintenance can save, you know, hundreds
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of dollars in repair or eventhousands. So we call that tlc, I
think, Tender Loving Care.Taking care of that slide room like
it's a little baby. So thatpreventative maintenance is very
important. And it's alwaysneglected. Well, always. My wife
tells me not to say alwaysbecause when I do that, it's exaggeration.
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A lot of times it's exactly,it's. It's neglected, just like everything
else. You know, we're going totalk about in another episode about
maintenance. And it's a lot ofthings that are just neglected. Let
me look at your house. Howmany things you neglect?
Yeah.
How many things you walk by? Mana.
Right, right.
Okay. So first off, to reallybe able to maintain your slide out
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system, it's good to know whattype you have. You know, not all
slides are equal. One of thething that we've talk about here
in our store and on the showis that when you're in your RV and
you're looking at a light,let's say on the ceiling, and maybe
this is your first or secondRV and it happens to be the same
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light in your second rv, butin your first rv you might think
that every RV has the samelights in it. And it's not that way.
You know, RVs have a zilliondifferent lights in them. Just like
slide rooms, they'redifferent. So don't assume your slide
is the same as every otherslide. There's difference. If you
bought a new rv, more thanlikely the slide room mechanism would
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be different. If not anythingelse. It might be the same brand
but different components. Sothey're not, you know, one, one motor
doesn't fit all if you will.So understanding that whether your
slide room is electric orhydraulic is important. These little
things will help you in yourmaintenance where if it's hydraulic,
you know you're going to wantto check the hydraulic fluid, know
what type of fluid goes inthere. It's generally transm fluid.
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But knowing that before youneed it and having some on hand is
half the battle sometimes.Because I know, I've seen that we're
out installing awnings and yougot to bring the slide room out or
in and it doesn't work. Andthe guy's, you know, panicking now,
he doesn't know what fluidgoes in there, doesn't have anything.
It turns into kind of a threering circus. As patient as I am.
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Yeah, you know, that gets oldquick. So having it figured out beforehand
and then it could be 12 voltbut knowing where the motors are
at the fuse is. Do you have acontrol box for it? You know, most
of the modern ones have acircuit board, if you will, or the
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buttons that you press,they're part of a little panel, a
display that knowing that isit replaceable? Having a bead on
this stuff in advance savessome problems and a little bit of
understanding this stuff. Ifyou can get the schematics or the
instructions from themanufacturer of the RV or the slide
out system so you know,what's, how this stuff works. And
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it doesn't mean you're goingto be out there in the field on a
camp trip, you know, tearingapart your rv, fixing it. But it
gives you a clue like if youhit the button, nothing happens.
Okay, is there a fusesomeplace? That's probably the easiest
thing to check. Yeah, so justhaving an understanding of it, that's
it's important. It's like Isay that about your entire rv, you
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know, if you just take it, youknow, compartmentalize it or segment
it, slide outs, the sliderooms, your leveling jacks, you know,
they're all different systems,but they all require something. But
knowing about them in advance,having those manuals on your phone
or printing them out in abinder, whatever works for you, it
definitely pays off. And evenwith technicians, sometimes, if they
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have to come out, their timeis money, and you're paying for them
to ask a whole lot ofquestions, kind of do some basic
groundwork exploration so theycan get a beat on it. Because they
can't look at your RV and go,that's a Swintech 2202. It doesn't
work that way.
Right.
So you can be a little morearmed and kind of intimidate the
tech a little bit. Like, hey,I know what I'm talking about here.
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Then they're not as inclinedto, you know, over billiard, another
word for that. But I'm notgoing to use it today.
Okay.
It'd be nice. All right. Soroutine maintenance, this is important.
It's really very practical toget in the routine maintenance mode.
I mean, it's an rv, so there'sa lot of maintenance already associated
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with it. Some of it's annual,some of it's biannual. But, you know,
slide out maintenance shouldjust be kind of a several times a
year type of thing. That'sgoing to help you avoid those oh
moments now those momentsbecome memories. Good or bad is up
to you.
Usually bad.
So one of the things to reallyfocus on would be keeping the mechanisms
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clean, you know, or the. Yeah,the mechanisms. It depends on your
slide room. Some of them havealuminum tracks on the wall of the
slide out on the outside. Someof them have everything underneath.
Some of them have cables. Butkeeping the roof clean of all the
debris that can build up thereand wash it if you can. Because you
know what happens when youbring that room. And if there's stuff
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up there, it goes inside, itwears out those seals, and it ends
up inside. But it can actuallykeep it from not sealing properly.
So that's a problem rightthere. And if you get enough of it,
it could actually jam up theslide out. Yeah, it might go in and
out, but it gets to a certainpoint where it kind of sticks. And,
you know, I see that a lot.Slide room sticking. It's like, I'm
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afraid, even hit the switchessometimes, but clean the roof of
the slide out. So that's oneof the things. And then, you know,
the sides of it just treat itlike it's a car, I guess. You know,
wash it, take care of it.You're not going to wax it? Well,
you might wax the sides ifit's fiberglass, but you're going
to use your rubber roofcoating on it. Some of them are hard
to get to because the lengthof them.
Right.
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But you know, a brush and someingenuity will make that happen.
Any moving parts on the slideout should be lubricated. So that
would be the mechanisms. If ithas the aluminum tracks on the side,
those definitely are a teflontype thing because you don't want
to put grease on those. Thoseare very exposed underneath. And
I say that because, you knowyou're just going to get. Get the
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grease on you. It'll be a mess.
Right.
Spray silicone is much morefriendly because it doesn't attract
dirt, doesn't build up likegrease wood. And there's products
made for lubricating slide outmechanism. And so underneath you
have gears, you have rods, youhave shafts, you have wheels, you
have stuff. All that needs tobe lubricated. Think about that and
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clean them off. And it'sprobably best to give them a nice
cleaning at least once a yearto get any dirt and, you know, crud
that builds up there, stufffrom the road and everything, keep
it nice and clean. And even ifit works, you're thinking, well,
that's not a lot of dirt, butit's crunching, it's slowly ruining
the gears. It gets inside themotors because it does pick it up.
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It's amazing how dirt getseverywhere when we don't think it
really should.
Yeah.
So it works its way into themotors, ruins the motor. If you got
power gear motors, well, youcould be looking at a thousand bucks
easy just for a motor. So youwant to avoid that. So that's the
mechanism, the things thathelp keeping that slide out in and
out. Now, the seals around itare very important. They last for
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years. But when it's time toreplace those, if you have to do
it prematurely, they can bevery expensive. Some slide rooms
have to come completely out ofthe RV to do it. And those seals
are important because theykeep water out, they keep air out.
You know, we just had one inour shop the other day. And you know,
the slide rooms halfway in andout, man, it's just broad daylight
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looking through there.
Yeah.
Like, so they need. Thattrailer needed a lot of stuff. Yeah.
5 gallons of gas and a match Ithink would be the better solution
for that. It was justneglected that that Trailer was actually
the epitome of neglect.Everything we did to it was just
maintenance because it hadbeen neglected. All the problems
were from just flat out neglect.
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Right.
Regular maintenance. So thatmaintenance pays off to do it yourself.
It pays off the shop when theyhave to do it for you. So you want
to save that money so you cango on more RV trips. So the seals
you want to use, the dressing,whatever you want to call it, I can't
think of the word right now,but you spray it on, it cleans the
als. Something like 303 workson that. Or you can buy something
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more specifically for it, arubber conditioner, which, you know,
most RV stores carry that typeof stuff. 303 works really well,
but the conditioners are mademore for it specifically, so they'll
have different agents oradditives in there that will perform
better. Now, if you have aslide room, you want to make sure
if you're dry camping, thatyour batteries are fully charged,
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not only when you get there,but when you leave. So you can bring
it in and out. So that'ssomething to pay very close attention
to. And if your slide room ismaking noises when it goes in, goes
out, it's catching, rubbing,bumping, drops off a little bit.
Those things aren't alwaysnormal, and they can be the sign
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of a potential problem. So youwant to make sure that you're looking
at that and correcting that.And if it's out of your skill set,
just take it to a trustedrepair center and let them look at
it. You don't want this thingto fail on you when you're out camping.
And they do, you know. And notall slide rooms are the easiest thing
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to get back in. Even whenthey're designed for a manual override,
they can become a nightmare,like some of the ones with cables.
It's almost a joke what theygive you to bring that thing in,
if you can even get to themotor if it fails on you and what
you have to do to do that. Soyou almost have to build something
in advance to make sure youcan work around that. So that was
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slide rooms with cables. Otherones are supposed to have cranks.
Most RVers never know wheretheir crank is. They can't find it,
don't know what it looks like.So get this stuff ironed out in advance.
So listen, look and makerepairs as needed. If it's beyond
your skill set, like I said,take it in and don't let it drag
on and get worse and worse andworse. Sometimes a small little problem
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can turn Into a very bigproblem. Ruin a trip, cost you more
money. Destroy flooring. Itcould be a mechanism, now that's
tearing something else up. Bethe smart rver. This stuff isn't
rocket science, but it doestake maintenance. And now there are
some do it yourself fixes aswell. You know, when something goes
wrong, you can jump in and fixit. Like maybe if it's not moving,
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you hit that switch. The slideout doesn't move. Is it the battery?
You know, we touched on that alittle bit. Is it dead? Is it weak?
Can you start up the RV or thetow vehicle and get it plugged in?
Or a generator and get some 12volt juice pumping back into that
baby and bring it in? If it'shydraulic, is it low on fluid? So
those are some simple littlethings. You know, a fuse, a bad circuit
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breaker could be anotherissue. If you know where they're
at and kind of know how to doit. It seems like a lot of RVers
kind of figure out the slideout thing to a degree. You know,
they get to a point where it'sgot to be this and quite often they're
right. Most RVers have apretty good beat on this. I guess
if you're bringing in yourslide room or taking it out, Is it
stuck part way? Did it justlike stop or did it kind of grind
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to a hole? So that could besomething stuck in the tracks, Debris,
dirt. You know, maybe your,your RV is really unlevel and it's
just throwing it off. It can'thandle that. I mean, generally that
isn't a problem, but it canbe. Check those things out, check
for debris and stuff. Moveyour rv if you've already leveled
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it, maybe adjust your jacksagain, you know, do something and
try to do it. And if youabsolutely can't figure it out, then
hopefully you have a manualoverride and you can bring it in
and, and get it taken care ofor, or extend it the rest of the
way if you're confident thatyou'll be able to get it back in.
And then when you get under orback home, you get it fixed. Now
if it's, you know, catching,making those noises like I brought
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out earlier, you knowsomething's wrong and you want to
take care of that. Especiallyif it's like a motor or gear, if
it's a little out of whack andit starts making noise, it might
be salvageable. You can adjustthat or clean it out. Maybe the motor
is actually loose and it'scausing a problem. And if you Catch
that early enough, you canavoid buying a new motor or a gear
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set, but generally it's themotor. Well, the gear is in the motor.
It's all a package deal. Youcan't buy one without the other.
So that costs a fortune. Ifit's like I said, it was power gear.
Other ones become sometimesmore difficult, like some of the
Schwintek ones on a lot of theRVs, those are now owned by Lippert.
They're just selling a new kitfor it. It's an upgrade, a retrofit
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kit, because the other oneshad built in problems. So now the
problems are supposedly, youknow, resolved. Those kits are 1400
bucks on the cheap.
Wow.
They're probably 16, 1800 inthe real world, on the cheap, they're
1400. You know, if you havewater leaks, check those seals, fix
them up, don't let that go.Water destroys everything. I can't
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emphasize that enough. So ifyou have to, you know, do something
to get you through a trip, butwhen you get home, take care of that.
Don't let it go. It's alwaysbetter to take care of this stuff
when you can at home ratherthan try to. I'm going to wait until
I get on my trip and do it.You get busy with other things. You're
on vacation, man. Take care ofat home before you ever get out.
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And if all these other thingsaren't working for you and you absolutely
can't figure it out, take itinto a shop and let them fix it.
If there's a problem with it,sometimes you just have to raise
that white flag and surrenderand pay the money. Or if you're just
starting out, like, you know,I haven't done anything with my slide
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out, I'm going to take it intoa shop and see what they would charge
to kind of get me squared up.Clean it all up, do those slide seals,
the mechanisms, and then fromthere on out, I'm going to maintain
it. You probably don't need todo that. You can probably just do
it yourself. But hey, whateverworks. You know that it'll give you
that extra confidence. So it'sabout saving money but not being
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ridiculous about it. You tryto save too much money and you end
up spending more money.
Right, Exactly.
That's something I've learnedin life. You start trying to save
money and man, that just costme twice as much because I didn't
do it right. I tried too hard.Right. So since we're all part of
the smart rver family, we'regoing to Work at this together and
we'll keep these pointers andtips coming. And also, you can see
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this entire article on ourwebsite, the smartrver.com. there's
much more to it than what Isaid. Here, check that out. It's
actually a better read than metalking about it as well. It's like
a novel, a mystery novel. TheMysterious slide out. So again, check
it out on the website. Nowthat you've got your slide outs all
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dialed in the first placeyou're going to want to go is to
Moab, Utah.
Yes.
And Alexis is going to tell uswhy you want to go to Moab. Wow.
It's like the moon there, right?
Yeah, it is.
Like going to the moon orMars, kind of. Maybe Elon Musk there.
Well, Elon, there you go.
So lay it on us, Alexis.
Okay. Today we're delving intothe desert diaries. That's what I
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call this. We're gonna go toMoab, Utah. Like Eric said, a desert
gem where history, adventureand jaw dropping, jaw dropping landscapes
collide. That was a mouthful.So this place is nestled in the American
Southwest. Moab story kicksoff in the 1850s with Mormon settlers
(31:14):
along the Old Spanish Trail.It's a little history for you. By
1878, it was officially born.Named for its for a biblical land
that mirrors its rugged, aridvibe, Moab. Fast forward to the 1950s.
Uranium turned the sleepylittle town into a mining boom town,
(31:35):
earning the title Uraniumcapital of the World. So that's kind
of interesting. Littlebackground on Moab. So Moab is a
magnet for over 2 millionvisitors a year. You might ask why?
And it's for two reasons. TheArches and the Canyonlands. So these
national parks flaunt rockformations that are just incredible.
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Adventure junkies also like tohit the Slickrock trail for epic
mountain biking. That's a bigthing there. The Colorado river rapids.
Or you can check out Hell'srevenge in a 4x4. That's pretty cool.
You need to Google pictures ifyou haven't seen that. And then Moab
has got a lot of charm too.They have a lot of art festivals
(32:21):
during the summer. Neapolitanpizza at the Anteca Forma. That's
incredible. That got reallygood reviews. I looked that up because
I love pizza. And then you canalso schedule stargazing under a
dark sky certified night. Thisis cool. It's a guided trip that
you go out in the dark andit's just incredible. There's no
(32:44):
stargazing like it. So prettyneat things you can do there. Of
course, there's a lot of rv RVparks as well. Those are listed in
the article. I'll let you lookat that later. But from Native American
petroglyphs to uranium stainedpast, Moab blends frontier grit with
modern allure. So this is yournext stop. This is your assignment.
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Smart RVers check out Moab andmaybe put it on your list of places
to go.
Yeah, it's interesting. Inever really thought of it more than
anything. More than fourwheeling and mountain biking.
Yeah.
Uranium. All the history there.
I know there's a lot.
Now, I have been torestaurants. Right. I know. I've
seen this on the menu. Wouldyou call it Hell's? What?
(33:26):
Hell's Revenge.
Hell's Revenge. Yeah.
Yeah. Big thing there.
Yeah, It's Mexican food place,I think in San Pedro, California
is right on the menu. Hell's Revenge.
But that was spicy.
I didn't try it.
That's good. You would haveregretted it.
And they didn't have abathroom there.
Oh, yikes. Nope.
So that's pretty interesting.It is a very popular place.
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Very. Yes.
And I wouldn't let the. The.The off roading and the mountain
biking intimidate you from notgoing because maybe you're not into
that, but it's worth seeing.It's a gorgeous area.
Oh, yeah.
So many other places in Utah could.
Just walk around it, you know.
So it's definitely worth goingto and seeing.
(34:10):
Yeah.
Checking out. So that's highon our list. And so there's more
on the website as well. Go tothe next stop. There's the full article.
Everything there. The fullbanana. Maps, the whole nine yards.
That's right.
That's right. Maps andeverything else you need.
I like that. The full banana.That's funny.
Full banana. All right, so nowthis is going to bring us to the
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next part of the show, Shadowsof the Past. And so let's take a
look at this. So as I pull outthe another page of the book I have
from Grandpappy Popeye, it'sgot an interesting little read here.
This one's kind of short, butlet's just get right into it. All
(34:51):
right, so we're going to lookat Cisco, Utah. It's a dusty speck
in the desert that seen betterdays. And so much of the desert has
seen better days, I think. Butpicture this. It's the 1880s, and
Cisco Springs to life as awater stop for the Denver and Rio
Grande Western Railroad. Steamlocomotives chug through, filling
(35:14):
up for the town's wells whilecattle ranchers and sheepherders
turned this remote outpostinto a bustling hub. By the early
20th century, Cisco's gotsaloons, a hotel, and even a post
office. Small but thriving inits own rugged way. Then the twist.
(35:35):
The railroad switched toDiesel in the 1950s, and those thirsty
steam engines rolled intohistory. No more water stops. No
more Cisco. The interstatesealed its fate, bypassing the town
entirely. By the 1990s, it wasa ghost town, abandoned shacks, rusted
(35:57):
cars, and tumbleweeds takingover. But here's the kicker. In 2015,
an artist named Eileen Muzabought Cisco, turning it into an
offbeat haven for creatives.Today, it's got murals, a skate park,
and an artist residency. Proofthat even in the silence of the desert,
(36:20):
a new story can emerge.Cisco's a shadow of the past, but
it's still whispering to thosewho listen. Now, that sounds pretty
cool. Yeah, I like that.
That was good.
I wouldn't mind going there.
Me neither.
That's interesting, because wehave another one coming up in a couple
episodes about one personowning a town.
(36:40):
Very cool.
And, you know, I think it'salways cool when someone buys a town.
Yeah, I'd like to buy a town.
Wouldn't that be neat?
It would be. I don't know whatI'd do with it, but it'd be fun.
But you could just say you owna town, right?
Probably all sorts of legalthings you need to know, and if you
don't know them, you'reprobably in all sorts of trouble.
Yeah, that's true.
Yeah. Might have a governmentagency coming after you.
Yeah.
(37:01):
All right, so that will alsobe in the. On the website as well,
in the smart rver in shadowsof the past.
Yes, sir.
On the website. Yeah. Yeah,you're correct.
It is.
All right, so now that bringsus to RV envy. And we're going to
talk about flipping Seal. Now,that's quite the name, right?
It sounds funny. You gotta getyour flipping seal.
(37:25):
That's right. Some people workthat way, right? Flipping this, flipping
that. So this is a flippingseal. So Flip and Seal is owned by
Jagger Unitech. In fact,there's gonna be a link to their
website in the description ofthis podcast. So Flip and Seal makes
(37:48):
all these different seals forslide outs. And you know what's interesting
is they make ones that aren'tlike what everybody else has. They're.
They're different. I thinkthey're for a lot of newer RVs, and
new RVs don't always need newseals, but from time to time, they
do tear. But they also haveseals that fit older ones. They have
this great selection. So inthe world of RVs and slide rooms,
(38:11):
there's not just one seal thatfits all. Sometimes you need a selection
of four or five differentcompanies to find the one that works
on your rv. And sometimes younever find an exact replacement.
So you have to find somethingthat's close. Now, someone came in
our store the other day, isactually a mobile tech and he had
a seal that looked pretty odd.It happened. It turned out flippin
(38:32):
seal had it. And they actuallysent us a display box of all their
seals so we could hold itright up to the old one or compare
it to a picture. Makes lifeeasier. So if you have an RV and
you need some seals, well,check out flip and seal. They might
be able to solve or be heroesfor the day. Solve your problem.
(38:53):
So again, the link will be onour website. Now that's bringing
us to the end of the show. AndI just want to give everybody one
final reminder here aboutwholesale warranties. Go to the link
in the description, follow it,get a free quote, talk to them and
save some money and get thebest RV extended warranty on the
planet. So our next episode isgoing to be 176. So we're gaining
(39:16):
traction here. We're almost atthe 200 mark. I don't know what that
means though. Like, do we getanything? Surprised we get an award.
You get a flipping seal.
I already got one.
Oh, okay.
That sucks. So just as alittle tidbit to throw out there
too. If you have a powertongue jack, make sure you have a
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cover on it to protect theelectronics, especially a lot of
the newer ones, they havetouch pads on them and all these
little things, they getdestroyed in the sun and the elements.
So get a cover for it and keepthat baby covered. Even if you just
throw a towel over it.Something keep the sun off it at
the bare minimum. But having anice cover for it works great. You
know they're under 20 bucks.Most RV stores have them. So cover
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that tongue jack. Even if youhave a manual one, it's good to keep
the water and dirt and stuffout of those gears that makes problems.
And they feel kind of like aslide room.
Exactly.
So I think we've come to theend of the show. So this is Eric
stark with the smart rverpodcast, your go to guide for smarter
RVing and unforgettableadventures on the open road.
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