November 11, 2024 • 25 mins
Episode 5: Suicide by Charleston
Sponsored by SoCool Shirts and the Great State of Indiana: "It's not that bad..."
In this episode of Miller Morning Madhouse, we’re diving deep into the dramatic and tragic story of former Gary mayor William J. Fulton, a man who lived and died during the wild Jazz Age. Join us as we uncover how the allure of speakeasies, gangsters, and a relentless Charleston craze led to his untimely end.
This week, we're excited to introduce our new crime reporter, Elizabeth Benedict, who’s here to shed light on the untold, scandalous stories of Gary’s past. Will she be able to keep Josh Scramble and Jerry Pancake on track? We’ll see!
🎶 Music in This Episode:
- IBY by DJ B-Duke
- Amish Paradise by “Weird Al” Yankovic
- Moons over My Hammy by our very own Jerry Pancake
Check out - Our Gary Stories for more info on Gary's scandalous past! It is an amazing site!
Tune in for a mix of history, humor, and a touch of the outrageous—just the way we like it in Miller Beach. Don’t forget to subscribe on Apple Podcasts or Spotify, and if you’re feeling generous, leave us a review to help more folks discover the Madhouse!
Stay Cool, and remember… sometimes, history dances on the edge.
Thank You's:
- Special thanks again to SoCool Shirts, Hair BNB, All In Jest Trivia with Josh Scramble, and the Miller Community Theatre. Huge shoutout to the MBACD for making these amazing events possible at the Marshall J. Gardner Center.
- Stay tuned for our next episode, dropping next week—hopefully—if we’re not too hungover to hit record
- (00:34) - Welcome to WSPR Super Beach Radio
- (01:07) - The Wild Story of William Fulton
- (02:35) - Meet Our True Crime Detective
- (07:37) - The Jazz Age's Corruption
- (09:56) - The Mysterious Death of Fulton
- (13:16) - Generational Connections to Gary's Past
- (19:08) - The Titanic and Submarine Comparisons
- (21:44) - Thanks for Joining Us!
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SoCool Danellia (00:29):
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Josh Scramble (00:34):
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Jerry Pancake (00:42):
Close as you can, without it being in your mouth.
So, like, just the just the tip.
Elizabeth Benedict (00:48):
Just the tip. I can do that.
Josh Scramble (00:49):
Elizabeth Benedict. I think I do like that
better than Elizabeth ShortStack.
Elizabeth Benedict (00:53):
I do
Jerry Pancake (00:55):
too. I've already named her that. So
Josh Scramble (00:57):
Wow. Where did we name that? Figure that
Elizabeth Benedict (00:59):
out at, Flamingo?
Jerry Pancake (01:08):
Hey there, folks. Welcome back to the Miller
Morning Mad House. Episode 5 ishere, and this time, we're
diving into the wild story ofWilliam Fulton, the former mayor
of Gary, Indiana whose jazz ageannex and tragic end are the
stuff of local legend. Today'sepisode is brought to you by So
Cool shirts, keeping you lookingsharp since, well, whenever we
(01:32):
got started and by the greatstate of Indiana. But really,
it's not that bad.
I'm your host Jerry Pancake, andwith me today is none other than
Josh Scramble serving up thenews, sports, and whatever else
crosses his mind and making herdebut on the show. We've got the
incredibly sharp ElizabethBenedict here to keep us honest
(01:55):
and or at least try. So kickback. Maybe throw on your
favorite So Cool shirt and let'sget into the gritty history of
Gary's jazz age and the life ofWilliam Fulton. Always remember,
you can, subscribe and rate uson all the stuff, Apple
Podcasts, Spotify, and the likehelps keep things rolling.
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So here we go.
Weird Al (02:26):
When I am in Miller Beach doing cocaine and
deporting people, I listen tothe Miller Morning Mad House
with Limtuk, Jerry Pancake, andJosh Scramble. I mean, they make
me laugh because it's thedumbest radio show I come to
play. But I can't get enough.They love the game so much.
Jerry Pancake (02:50):
Alright. All you cool cats out there, today, we
got a fresh face in themadhouse, our resident true
crime detective, ElizabethBenedict. Elizabeth is known for
digging up dark secrets with thefocus of someone on their second
cup of black coffee or somethingelse that might keep you awake
(03:10):
and the persistence of a forkheading for the last pancake or
someone's throat.
Josh Scramble (03:16):
That too. You know?
Jerry Pancake (03:17):
It happens here.
Josh Scramble (03:18):
It was Elizabeth in the conservatory with the
fork?
Elizabeth Benedict (03:21):
You never know.
Jerry Pancake (03:22):
Rumor has it, she's even passed up a breakfast
buffet to track down a lead,which is a dedication at the
level we all admire. Like,except if you would pass up that
breakfast buffet if it was at acertain restaurant that has a
very loud DJ most of the time.Today, she's back to gritty,
(03:44):
gritty, scandalous story from 19thirties Gary, and we all love
the jazz age. Josh Scramble.Right?
Josh Scramble (03:51):
Oh, yeah. We all love the jazz age. Don't you
know?
Elizabeth Benedict (03:53):
It's had great things.
Josh Scramble (03:54):
Had great things. All the cocaine dancing and
horse.
Jerry Pancake (03:57):
They had cocaine in the jazz times? Jerry. I
thought it was just the,
Josh Scramble (04:03):
the Soon? They've had the cocaine in around for
Jerry Pancake (04:05):
a while. I thought it was just the weed.
What did they call it?
Josh Scramble (04:09):
You got warmed up with the wacky tabacky, but then
you went to the nose candy realquick, you see.
Jerry Pancake (04:12):
In that reefer madness, they called it
something like jazz sticks orsomething like it. Some weird
thing. But, anyway, in the thepolitics in Gary are are a 100%
always, a 100% of the time,corrupt. It was no different
back in the jazz age in 19thirties, Gary. This is about a
former mayor.
Josh Scramble (04:33):
True story.
Jerry Pancake (04:34):
What had happened to him. And so let's hand this
the mic to Elizabeth Benedictand let her tell the story.
Elizabeth Benedict (04:42):
Thanks, Jerry.
Jerry Pancake (04:43):
Oh, you're welcome.
Elizabeth Benedict (04:44):
Alright. Well, now while Jerry's over
there with his breakfastplatter, I'm here to serve up
something even juicier. A talefrom 1930. This isn't your
typical eggs and bacon story,folks. We're talking about the
story of William j Fulton,former mayor of Gary who started
as a rising star in the city'spolitical scene, but ended up,
(05:08):
well, toast.
Imagine in 1930, Gary's jazz agein full swing with jazz pouring
from clubs, the steel note, hotand bothered, and stacks and
sacks. Think smoke filled rooms,locals doing the Charleston,
shady deals done over late nightscrambled eggs at Miller's Mix
and Mingle. That was really athing.
Jerry Pancake (05:30):
Yeah. That's a that's a club from the jazz age.
I I wish it was back, though, tounfortunately, like, we don't
have a lot of good places to go.
Elizabeth Benedict (05:41):
No. And, honestly have where to make some
mango?
Jerry Pancake (05:43):
Well, I would head over there right now if it
was if they had it. Because theflamingo's closed tonight. So
What about hot and bothered? Iwould go to hot and bothered.
Josh Scramble (05:52):
That actually sounds like it'd be the next
strip club to hit Gary. Hot andbothered?
Elizabeth Benedict (05:55):
If need one more.
Jerry Pancake (05:57):
So do you think they have food, and do you think
that they serve it in areasonable amount of time at any
of these clubs?
Elizabeth Benedict (06:04):
I think it more describes the waitresses.
Josh Scramble (06:06):
Honestly, like, I I just can't get my eyes off of
the late night scrambled eggs.Like, can you imagine how the
killer that would do that? Like,if imagine Flamingo if they
served breakfast at 1 AM. Oh mygod. That would be, like,
Elizabeth Benedict (06:20):
that would be ultimate. How late?
Jerry Pancake (06:22):
1 to 3. Like a Denny's.
Josh Scramble (06:24):
Yeah. Like, 1 to 3. Last call for both booze and
oh.
Elizabeth Benedict (06:27):
And crunchy hash browns.
Josh Scramble (06:29):
Booze and breakfast, last call. Scramble
and hash at 2 AM.
Elizabeth Benedict (06:32):
Oh my god.
Jerry Pancake (06:33):
Scramble and hash is the new morning show that's
coming out, next year.
Josh Scramble (06:37):
Once we fire you.
Jerry Pancake (06:38):
Once once on fire, Scramble and Hash will be
coming out. But, yeah, that itwould be wonderful if if the
flamingo did a 1 in the morning,breakfast. But in 1930,
apparently, we had a lot of,these clubs, and, they were
doing the Charleston. And I Idon't know if you've ever seen
someone do the Charleston.
Josh Scramble (06:59):
It's not it's not fun to watch.
Jerry Pancake (07:01):
It looks like a sped up. Like, the you know,
people do those sped up videoson the TikTok. Are you on the
TikTok, Elizabeth?
Elizabeth Benedict (07:08):
I know what you're referring to, but I do
like the originals. They do do areally nice job.
Jerry Pancake (07:12):
The OG I know the podcast. Yeah.
Elizabeth Benedict (07:14):
It's like new songs.
Jerry Pancake (07:16):
Oh, do they oh.
Elizabeth Benedict (07:17):
Did Charleston, like, sped up
because it's a new song?
Josh Scramble (07:19):
I just love that Jerry calls it the TikTok. The
TikTok. The TikTok. TikTok.
Jerry Pancake (07:24):
The TikTok.
Elizabeth Benedict (07:25):
The kids are out there.
Josh Scramble (07:26):
Well, you know, they're out there doing the
TikToks, and I don't know why Iwent to Bill Cosby.
Jerry Pancake (07:32):
This. I mean, he's not doing any TikToks these
days because him dead.
Josh Scramble (07:37):
Oh. Well, he's not dead. He's not he's not
dead. Bill Cosby? His career,that's dead, but he is very
Jerry Pancake (07:44):
much alive. I always make there should be.
Josh Scramble (07:47):
Right? No. Wow. You guys need to read a paper
because no. He got out of jail.
Oh. And he is now living at homewith his complicit wife.
Elizabeth Benedict (07:56):
I thought justice was served. Camille
Josh Scramble (07:58):
Camille, they're very much both alive.
Jerry Pancake (08:00):
Come give me a fucking break. That's not true.
Josh Scramble (08:03):
I swear to god. I would not lie to you about
something like that. He is sohe's he is alive eating Jell O
Pudding Pops in Connecticut withhis wife. Is
Elizabeth Benedict (08:11):
he dying?
Jerry Pancake (08:12):
He's sucking some toes. Right?
Elizabeth Benedict (08:13):
Is it because he's dying?
Josh Scramble (08:15):
Well, I mean, everybody's dying. It's just
that old. Well, yeah. But he'sstill alive.
Elizabeth Benedict (08:19):
Like a hospice release or something?
Josh Scramble (08:21):
No. They let him out on a technicality.
Jerry Pancake (08:23):
I thought he died.
Elizabeth Benedict (08:24):
Oh, we
gotta do some research, Jerry.
Jerry Pancake (08:27):
I The research is so
Josh Scramble (08:28):
been all over the fucking TV for you. Personal
research.
Jerry Pancake (08:32):
Oh, OJ was the one that died.
Josh Scramble (08:34):
Yeah. OJ's daughter. Wow. Well, god's gonna
be racist there, man. Messed upat all.
Jerry Pancake (08:40):
Damn. Evil people live like, the the good people
die younger than the evilpeople, so that's why OJ died.
Josh Scramble (08:47):
Well, maybe that's why Billy Joel wrote that
song, OJ died young. That's whyit's a song.
Jerry Pancake (08:54):
So so, yeah, I didn't know that, that Bill
Cosby was alive, but I doremember when he faked that he
was blind. Do you remember that?
Josh Scramble (09:04):
Well, I the one eye is definitely blind because
he's got, like, that, you know,you know, when you have, like, a
dog that
Jerry Pancake (09:09):
has, like, 1 eye, like, the glaucoma eye? 1 eye
Josh Scramble (09:13):
yeah. That's that's that's the new nineties
band, 1 eye blind.
Jerry Pancake (09:16):
Oh, excuse me. 1 eye blind is my new favorite
band.
Elizabeth Benedict (09:18):
Is he, like, lazy, or is it small?
Josh Scramble (09:22):
No. It's that's what she said. He is he is he
Elizabeth Benedict (09:27):
is one of those. Right?
Jerry Pancake (09:28):
Like, a tiny eye?
Elizabeth Benedict (09:29):
He's got a small
Josh Scramble (09:30):
He's got, like, a lazy cloudy one, like, you know
Or is it like?
Jerry Pancake (09:34):
Oh, yeah. Like the like like
Josh Scramble (09:36):
Droopy like you had a stroke?
Elizabeth Benedict (09:37):
I need a picture of him. I can't
remember.
Jerry Pancake (09:39):
Jesus.
Josh Scramble (09:40):
Oh, you know, it's Bring it.
Jerry Pancake (09:41):
Good old one eyed Cosby.
Elizabeth Benedict (09:43):
Tangent.
Josh Scramble (09:44):
Well, that's
Jerry Pancake (09:44):
that's And giving you the one eyed Cosby had a
different meaning back when hewas a healthy man.
Josh Scramble (09:49):
Yeah. Giving you the one at Cosby. That's
Jerry Pancake (09:51):
He did that a lot. Anyway,
Josh Scramble (09:54):
get Cosby. Oh,
Jerry Pancake (09:57):
speaking of people from the jazz age, Bill
Cosby, ladies and gentlemen.Well subject there. It it was
Well, you was, like,
Elizabeth Benedict (10:04):
shaking hands and kissing babies, I
think.
Jerry Pancake (10:06):
Yeah. Okay. So this guy, this fella, named
Fulton is the mayor, and, we'retalking about how what he did in
the jazz age.
Elizabeth Benedict (10:16):
19 thirties.
Jerry Pancake (10:17):
Okay. Go ahead. Right. Elizabeth Benedict.
Elizabeth Benedict (10:20):
Alright. So shaking hands and kissing
babies, maybe doing a littleextra on the side by early 1930,
though. Things started heatingup more than my morning coffee.
Rumors spread of corruption,dirty money, hidden deals, and
suddenly, Fulton found himselfin a spotlight for all of the
wrong reasons. Now here's whereit gets juicy.
(10:43):
May 15, 1930 with accusationsflying faster than flapjacks on
the griddle. Fulton retreated tohis lake house on Oak Avenue.
Josh Scramble (10:52):
Right here. Very close. Stone's throw.
Elizabeth Benedict (10:55):
Yeah. And on, May 17th, he was found dead.
Initially, it was a suicide.Folks at Fulton's Downbeat, his
own namesake club weren't buyingit. Do you
Jerry Pancake (11:05):
think there are relatives of the people that are
on the day shift at Flamingo atFulton's Downbeat at that time?
Josh Scramble (11:14):
Oh god. And so, like, 3rd generation.
Jerry Pancake (11:16):
3rd generation camo.
Josh Scramble (11:18):
Day shift. Oh. I shouldn't name names. Schools?
Jerry Pancake (11:22):
Yeah. Like, so, like, someone's grandfather
Elizabeth Benedict (11:25):
like, oh, I see what you're saying.
Josh Scramble (11:27):
The people
Elizabeth Benedict (11:28):
that are locals nowadays, they're
Josh Scramble (11:30):
Yeah. Actually, we were while we were kinda
talking about this, like, acouple weeks ago, like, you
know, I've been in Miller solong. My great great grandfather
was getting drunk at 9 AM downat Fulton's Down Beat.
Elizabeth Benedict (11:42):
It was called generational
Jerry Pancake (11:43):
Alcoholism. Like, it follows you. Yeah. It's in
your genes, apparently. My momalways said that I would be an
alcoholic.
She was right. A few things shewas right about. But no. Like, I
just think about it like thisthe generations, these people
that say they've lived in Millerfor, like, a 100 years or
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whatever, they might have beenat Fulton's Downbeat or Hot and
Bothered or one of thesefabulous clubs, like Miller's
mix and mingle.
Josh Scramble (12:14):
Someone's grandfather had to be at that
club.
Jerry Pancake (12:16):
I know.
Josh Scramble (12:17):
I'm sure
Elizabeth Benedict (12:17):
there's plenty. Plenty that actually
knew him.
Jerry Pancake (12:20):
So what happened to him?
Elizabeth Benedict (12:21):
Oh, okay. So they were buying it. They said
things like Fulton knew too muchor he crossed the wrong guy over
a hot and bothered quote quoteunquote, hinting that the
scrambled mess of Gary'spolitics might have pushed him
to the edge.
Josh Scramble (12:37):
So either he was framed or he just couldn't take
the corruption and end it atall?
Elizabeth Benedict (12:41):
It sounds like, basically, he didn't
commit suicide, so I don't know.
Jerry Pancake (12:45):
I mean, I think he killed himself. Here. You
just wanna I think
Josh Scramble (12:50):
Also, like, it's 19 thirties. Like, how much
could really be going on inGary? Like, although there was a
lot of shit going on, I mean,steel mills were kicking in full
stream. Like, people were dying,getting dumped into liquid
steel. And What?
I don't I there was no safetyback then. Like, that's why
there was 50,000 workers. Like,one fell in the melt molten pit
(13:11):
and, you know, you just putanother one up. Oh,
Jerry Pancake (13:14):
this it was in the New York Times, apparently.
Josh Scramble (13:17):
Well, Gary used to be something.
Elizabeth Benedict (13:19):
The amount of, like, murders I'm sorry.
Being from Illinois, the amountof murders and serial killers
and conspiracies in Indiana hasblown my mind.
Josh Scramble (13:30):
Well, I mean, Jerry's dad knew, like, half of
those serial killers.
Jerry Pancake (13:33):
He did. He has met a lot of them. Gacy. Some
people even say it's Jerry's
Josh Scramble (13:39):
dad that inspired all the murder.
Elizabeth Benedict (13:40):
You know, Belle Gunness? You know that
story with, like Yeah. Mymother-in-law has collected all
of this information, writtenlike a screenplay. Great great
Josh Scramble (13:52):
great info.
Jerry Pancake (13:54):
Okay. Is that the La Porte lady?
Josh Scramble (13:56):
I can't remember.
Elizabeth Benedict (13:57):
But it's basically she invited men to her
house Yes.
Josh Scramble (14:01):
Killed them.
Jerry Pancake (14:02):
Yeah. That's the La Porte lady. She run
Josh Scramble (14:04):
that she run an Airbnb and She did.
Jerry Pancake (14:07):
Her did.
Elizabeth Benedict (14:08):
In the in the paper.
Jerry Pancake (14:09):
She was Yeah. She would advertise for, like Well,
you know Hey. Are you atransient that has no family?
I'll rent you a room for, like,$10.
Elizabeth Benedict (14:18):
Basically, she burned down the whole house.
Jerry Pancake (14:20):
Yeah. Oh, when she was
Elizabeth Benedict (14:21):
She may or may not have lived.
Jerry Pancake (14:23):
Yeah. No one knows. She was a handsome woman.
Look at this mayor Fulton fuck.
Elizabeth Benedict (14:28):
Okay. Here we go.
Jerry Pancake (14:29):
Just and it's hard to describe.
Josh Scramble (14:31):
You see the guy on the left there?
Jerry Pancake (14:33):
Yeah. This so this
Josh Scramble (14:34):
Oh my god. Like, I literally worked with a guy
that is, like, almost spittingimage of him.
Jerry Pancake (14:38):
Yeah. Well, he looks like a like a he would be
probably at any clan rally
Josh Scramble (14:45):
back in those times. Flogged himself after
seeing a woman doing aCharleston.
Elizabeth Benedict (14:49):
Nice. He seems nice.
Jerry Pancake (14:51):
He seems like a nice white very white guy.
Josh Scramble (14:55):
White shit.
Elizabeth Benedict (14:55):
Like h?
Josh Scramble (14:57):
Powder was less white.
Jerry Pancake (14:58):
I mean, they had to probably like, they had to
put shadows in just so you see aface on the white background
because, like, otherwise, itwould be super white. And then
there is another guy thatapparently defeated him, this
Roswell Johnson. No offense toanyone that's related to either
of these 2 fuckers.
Josh Scramble (15:18):
Well, Roswell Johnson, you know, I just had to
advertise this you know, hiscampaign slogans. Go with the
man with the tan, not old way. Imean
Elizabeth Benedict (15:25):
What's the police report? Honestly, the
police
Jerry Pancake (15:27):
report. So let's look at it. Hey. This is a we we
are doing audio only for thepodcast.
Josh Scramble (15:33):
So Yeah. That's very
Jerry Pancake (15:34):
true. That is imagining what these visuals
look like.
Elizabeth Benedict (15:39):
Links are in the notes.
Jerry Pancake (15:40):
It looks, it looks just like you would think,
in the 19 twenties.
Josh Scramble (15:44):
It is our thirties, but spot on.
Elizabeth Benedict (15:46):
That one out.
Jerry Pancake (15:47):
I mean, look at those hats. Would you wear one
of those hats? Point? No.They're like a bucket hat
almost?
Elizabeth Benedict (15:53):
Yeah. Like, the low the low waist dresses.
Jerry Pancake (15:56):
Oh, yeah. Low hey, man. You don't want a high
skirt because you wanna whenyou're doing that Charleston,
you want it to swing aroundreal, like,
Josh Scramble (16:04):
give it a turner effect going with the our skirt
swinging?
Jerry Pancake (16:08):
It it's a Titanic look for sure if if anybody
knows what
Josh Scramble (16:11):
mean, that was just a few years before.
Jerry Pancake (16:13):
Yeah. If anybody knows what the people looked at,
like, on the Titanic in themovie, This is what they looked
at, like, in Gary here.
Elizabeth Benedict (16:21):
Wait. When was the Titanic? Wasn't this a
little earlier?
Josh Scramble (16:24):
Titanic was the 3rd 31? Wait.
Jerry Pancake (16:28):
What's the name of the Titanic? 33.
Josh Scramble (16:32):
Well, hang on. Jerry, they didn't give us the
day off, so I don't remember it.
Elizabeth Benedict (16:35):
Well, the Titanic was higher class,
though.
Josh Scramble (16:37):
Hey. Most of the people that died on the Titanic
were just regular old folk.
Elizabeth Benedict (16:41):
Well, in the movie.
Josh Scramble (16:43):
I prefer that they invented that story that
they trapped all the poor peopleunderneath to let the riches get
off. I They think of that.
Jerry Pancake (16:49):
They did always. Rich people were way more
important than poor people, andit's still the case. I'm loud.
Josh Scramble (16:57):
They're more catered. No.
Elizabeth Benedict (16:59):
They're not more important. They're more
catered to.
Josh Scramble (17:01):
Yeah. Well, this shows how much I paid attention
in school. The Titanic was 20years before this in 1912.
Elizabeth Benedict (17:08):
I knew it.
Jerry Pancake (17:08):
How did they so I think back about these days, and
I just think Randomly? I youknow, I can't remember them
because I wasn't born for, like,70 years or whatever after. But,
I think
Elizabeth Benedict (17:21):
Me too. How the fuck
Jerry Pancake (17:22):
did they make this shit in the 9 in 1906? How
do you make a ship like that? Alot of people probably died.
Josh Scramble (17:30):
Easy. It was
Jerry Pancake (17:31):
very dangerous. Have you ever seen a bolt, like,
from the Titanic? It was like
Josh Scramble (17:35):
can they that's why you're asking. Like, the
steel mill. Yeah. Like, 9 tonsof people died.
Elizabeth Benedict (17:41):
Can we compare it to the Titanic plunge
of that submarine?
Jerry Pancake (17:46):
I mean, How do
Elizabeth Benedict (17:47):
you do that?
Josh Scramble (17:48):
Well, that was built with, like,
Jerry Pancake (17:50):
their cut
Josh Scramble (17:51):
someone just went out and welded 2 trash cans
together and then decided to usethose, like, PlayStation
controller.
Jerry Pancake (17:57):
That Titanic, submarine or whatever, that
thing was, like, a, I think, aTimu. They got it at Timu. Like
and they were like, oh, man. Igot a great deal on this
submarine, and and I'm gonnacharge people $250,000, and it's
got, like, a PlayStationcontroller.
Josh Scramble (18:15):
Hey, Bob. You know, we we could buy this
really nice one on Amazon for300,000, but I found this one on
Timu for half the cost.
Jerry Pancake (18:22):
Dude, you would think millionaires would be,
like, super smart and be like,oh, show me the control how do
you control this thing? And theyjust get, like, a, like, a
PlayStation controller out, andthey're like, with this. Like I
mean, like, I'm not getting onthat fucking thing. You're nuts.
Josh Scramble (18:38):
You remember Metal Gear Solid? I'm using the
same exact controller for this.
Jerry Pancake (18:43):
We went back to the PlayStation 1 because it's
more reliable.
Josh Scramble (18:46):
No rumble stick.
Jerry Pancake (18:47):
And it was like a Bluetooth too. It wasn't even
wired in. I'm like, man, youbetter have everything wired in
in a summary.
Josh Scramble (18:54):
Well, also, that was my favorite thing about that
whole summary. Like, the factthat there was a billionaire and
his son who died on it, like,kudos to you for dying for your
dumbass decisions. That was myfavorite thing. Like, I couldn't
have been happier when I heardthat. It's dark, and I don't
care.
I could not have been happierthat they were that stupid.
Like, I hope the money goes tosome charity or at least it
Jerry Pancake (19:14):
It won't. It'll go to the relatives of those
terrible people that will poordecisions. They will also be
terrible with their body and
Josh Scramble (19:21):
mouth. Year old girl, like, I'm gonna go buy a
new wardrobe because my dad diedon a submarine because he was
stupid. Thoughts?
Jerry Pancake (19:27):
No. Elizabeth Benedict?
Josh Scramble (19:30):
You wanna talk to try?
Elizabeth Benedict (19:32):
To cry. That's correct. Illegal
gambling, moonshine, and murder.And
Jerry Pancake (19:36):
Okay. So we're looking at this.
Elizabeth Benedict (19:37):
I was distracted. I don't even I can't
I was just saying. I'm so sorry.
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I I wanna give a shout out to this website, and I
don't know who's doing it, butit's called, r gary stories dot
com, and this is a real website.And I had I had come upon this,
I don't know, a couple years agowhen I when I could not sleep,
which is often, and I'm justgoogling on my phone, and I
wanna know about what was goingon in the early 1900 in the town
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that I live in.
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and realize she's very plain,but that's just perfect for an
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Beach the place to be. Thanksfor hanging out with us, Miller
Beach. We will be back nextSunday, hopefully, with a brand
new episode.
That is if we are not toohungover. No promises. But stay
cool, stay crazy, and keepsupporting the madhouse.
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Elizabeth Benedict (23:24):
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She laughed and said, I knowjust where to begin. She said, I
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Josh Scramble (25:27):
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Jerry Pancake (25:30):
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even know.
Josh Scramble (25:33):
What was Do you understand the words that you're
talking about in my mouth? No.Do you speak it in English?
All you guys do is just sit up there and talk
about how fucking cool you are.
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So, like, just the just the tip.
Elizabeth Benedict (00:48):
Just the tip. I can do that.
Josh Scramble (00:49):
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better than Elizabeth ShortStack.
Elizabeth Benedict (00:53):
I do
Jerry Pancake (00:55):
too. I've already named her that. So
Josh Scramble (00:57):
Wow. Where did we name that? Figure that
Elizabeth Benedict (00:59):
out at, Flamingo?
Jerry Pancake (01:08):
Hey there, folks. Welcome back to the Miller
Morning Mad House. Episode 5 ishere, and this time, we're
diving into the wild story ofWilliam Fulton, the former mayor
of Gary, Indiana whose jazz ageannex and tragic end are the
stuff of local legend. Today'sepisode is brought to you by So
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it's not that bad.
I'm your host Jerry Pancake, andwith me today is none other than
Josh Scramble serving up thenews, sports, and whatever else
crosses his mind and making herdebut on the show. We've got the
incredibly sharp ElizabethBenedict here to keep us honest
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and or at least try. So kickback. Maybe throw on your
favorite So Cool shirt and let'sget into the gritty history of
Gary's jazz age and the life ofWilliam Fulton. Always remember,
you can, subscribe and rate uson all the stuff, Apple
Podcasts, Spotify, and the likehelps keep things rolling.
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So here we go.
Weird Al (02:26):
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play. But I can't get enough.They love the game so much.
Jerry Pancake (02:50):
Alright. All you cool cats out there, today, we
got a fresh face in themadhouse, our resident true
crime detective, ElizabethBenedict. Elizabeth is known for
digging up dark secrets with thefocus of someone on their second
cup of black coffee or somethingelse that might keep you awake
(03:10):
and the persistence of a forkheading for the last pancake or
someone's throat.
Josh Scramble (03:16):
That too. You know?
Jerry Pancake (03:17):
It happens here.
Josh Scramble (03:18):
It was Elizabeth in the conservatory with the
fork?
Elizabeth Benedict (03:21):
You never know.
Jerry Pancake (03:22):
Rumor has it, she's even passed up a breakfast
buffet to track down a lead,which is a dedication at the
level we all admire. Like,except if you would pass up that
breakfast buffet if it was at acertain restaurant that has a
very loud DJ most of the time.Today, she's back to gritty,
(03:44):
gritty, scandalous story from 19thirties Gary, and we all love
the jazz age. Josh Scramble.Right?
Josh Scramble (03:51):
Oh, yeah. We all love the jazz age. Don't you
know?
Elizabeth Benedict (03:53):
It's had great things.
Josh Scramble (03:54):
Had great things. All the cocaine dancing and
horse.
Jerry Pancake (03:57):
They had cocaine in the jazz times? Jerry. I
thought it was just the,
Josh Scramble (04:03):
the Soon? They've had the cocaine in around for
Jerry Pancake (04:05):
a while. I thought it was just the weed.
What did they call it?
Josh Scramble (04:09):
You got warmed up with the wacky tabacky, but then
you went to the nose candy realquick, you see.
Jerry Pancake (04:12):
In that reefer madness, they called it
something like jazz sticks orsomething like it. Some weird
thing. But, anyway, in the thepolitics in Gary are are a 100%
always, a 100% of the time,corrupt. It was no different
back in the jazz age in 19thirties, Gary. This is about a
former mayor.
Josh Scramble (04:33):
True story.
Jerry Pancake (04:34):
What had happened to him. And so let's hand this
the mic to Elizabeth Benedictand let her tell the story.
Elizabeth Benedict (04:42):
Thanks, Jerry.
Jerry Pancake (04:43):
Oh, you're welcome.
Elizabeth Benedict (04:44):
Alright. Well, now while Jerry's over
there with his breakfastplatter, I'm here to serve up
something even juicier. A talefrom 1930. This isn't your
typical eggs and bacon story,folks. We're talking about the
story of William j Fulton,former mayor of Gary who started
as a rising star in the city'spolitical scene, but ended up,
(05:08):
well, toast.
Imagine in 1930, Gary's jazz agein full swing with jazz pouring
from clubs, the steel note, hotand bothered, and stacks and
sacks. Think smoke filled rooms,locals doing the Charleston,
shady deals done over late nightscrambled eggs at Miller's Mix
and Mingle. That was really athing.
Jerry Pancake (05:30):
Yeah. That's a that's a club from the jazz age.
I I wish it was back, though, tounfortunately, like, we don't
have a lot of good places to go.
Elizabeth Benedict (05:41):
No. And, honestly have where to make some
mango?
Jerry Pancake (05:43):
Well, I would head over there right now if it
was if they had it. Because theflamingo's closed tonight. So
What about hot and bothered? Iwould go to hot and bothered.
Josh Scramble (05:52):
That actually sounds like it'd be the next
strip club to hit Gary. Hot andbothered?
Elizabeth Benedict (05:55):
If need one more.
Jerry Pancake (05:57):
So do you think they have food, and do you think
that they serve it in areasonable amount of time at any
of these clubs?
Elizabeth Benedict (06:04):
I think it more describes the waitresses.
Josh Scramble (06:06):
Honestly, like, I I just can't get my eyes off of
the late night scrambled eggs.Like, can you imagine how the
killer that would do that? Like,if imagine Flamingo if they
served breakfast at 1 AM. Oh mygod. That would be, like,
Elizabeth Benedict (06:20):
that would be ultimate. How late?
Jerry Pancake (06:22):
1 to 3. Like a Denny's.
Josh Scramble (06:24):
Yeah. Like, 1 to 3. Last call for both booze and
oh.
Elizabeth Benedict (06:27):
And crunchy hash browns.
Josh Scramble (06:29):
Booze and breakfast, last call. Scramble
and hash at 2 AM.
Elizabeth Benedict (06:32):
Oh my god.
Jerry Pancake (06:33):
Scramble and hash is the new morning show that's
coming out, next year.
Josh Scramble (06:37):
Once we fire you.
Jerry Pancake (06:38):
Once once on fire, Scramble and Hash will be
coming out. But, yeah, that itwould be wonderful if if the
flamingo did a 1 in the morning,breakfast. But in 1930,
apparently, we had a lot of,these clubs, and, they were
doing the Charleston. And I Idon't know if you've ever seen
someone do the Charleston.
Josh Scramble (06:59):
It's not it's not fun to watch.
Jerry Pancake (07:01):
It looks like a sped up. Like, the you know,
people do those sped up videoson the TikTok. Are you on the
TikTok, Elizabeth?
Elizabeth Benedict (07:08):
I know what you're referring to, but I do
like the originals. They do do areally nice job.
Jerry Pancake (07:12):
The OG I know the podcast. Yeah.
Elizabeth Benedict (07:14):
It's like new songs.
Jerry Pancake (07:16):
Oh, do they oh.
Elizabeth Benedict (07:17):
Did Charleston, like, sped up
because it's a new song?
Josh Scramble (07:19):
I just love that Jerry calls it the TikTok. The
TikTok. The TikTok. TikTok.
Jerry Pancake (07:24):
The TikTok.
Elizabeth Benedict (07:25):
The kids are out there.
Josh Scramble (07:26):
Well, you know, they're out there doing the
TikToks, and I don't know why Iwent to Bill Cosby.
Jerry Pancake (07:32):
This. I mean, he's not doing any TikToks these
days because him dead.
Josh Scramble (07:37):
Oh. Well, he's not dead. He's not he's not
dead. Bill Cosby? His career,that's dead, but he is very
Jerry Pancake (07:44):
much alive. I always make there should be.
Josh Scramble (07:47):
Right? No. Wow. You guys need to read a paper
because no. He got out of jail.
Oh. And he is now living at homewith his complicit wife.
Elizabeth Benedict (07:56):
I thought justice was served. Camille
Josh Scramble (07:58):
Camille, they're very much both alive.
Jerry Pancake (08:00):
Come give me a fucking break. That's not true.
Josh Scramble (08:03):
I swear to god. I would not lie to you about
something like that. He is sohe's he is alive eating Jell O
Pudding Pops in Connecticut withhis wife. Is
Elizabeth Benedict (08:11):
he dying?
Jerry Pancake (08:12):
He's sucking some toes. Right?
Elizabeth Benedict (08:13):
Is it because he's dying?
Josh Scramble (08:15):
Well, I mean, everybody's dying. It's just
that old. Well, yeah. But he'sstill alive.
Elizabeth Benedict (08:19):
Like a hospice release or something?
Josh Scramble (08:21):
No. They let him out on a technicality.
Jerry Pancake (08:23):
I thought he died.
Elizabeth Benedict (08:24):
Oh, we
gotta do some research, Jerry.
Jerry Pancake (08:27):
I The research is so
Josh Scramble (08:28):
been all over the fucking TV for you. Personal
research.
Jerry Pancake (08:32):
Oh, OJ was the one that died.
Josh Scramble (08:34):
Yeah. OJ's daughter. Wow. Well, god's gonna
be racist there, man. Messed upat all.
Jerry Pancake (08:40):
Damn. Evil people live like, the the good people
die younger than the evilpeople, so that's why OJ died.
Josh Scramble (08:47):
Well, maybe that's why Billy Joel wrote that
song, OJ died young. That's whyit's a song.
Jerry Pancake (08:54):
So so, yeah, I didn't know that, that Bill
Cosby was alive, but I doremember when he faked that he
was blind. Do you remember that?
Josh Scramble (09:04):
Well, I the one eye is definitely blind because
he's got, like, that, you know,you know, when you have, like, a
dog that
Jerry Pancake (09:09):
has, like, 1 eye, like, the glaucoma eye? 1 eye
Josh Scramble (09:13):
yeah. That's that's that's the new nineties
band, 1 eye blind.
Jerry Pancake (09:16):
Oh, excuse me. 1 eye blind is my new favorite
band.
Elizabeth Benedict (09:18):
Is he, like, lazy, or is it small?
Josh Scramble (09:22):
No. It's that's what she said. He is he is he
Elizabeth Benedict (09:27):
is one of those. Right?
Jerry Pancake (09:28):
Like, a tiny eye?
Elizabeth Benedict (09:29):
He's got a small
Josh Scramble (09:30):
He's got, like, a lazy cloudy one, like, you know
Or is it like?
Jerry Pancake (09:34):
Oh, yeah. Like the like like
Josh Scramble (09:36):
Droopy like you had a stroke?
Elizabeth Benedict (09:37):
I need a picture of him. I can't
remember.
Jerry Pancake (09:39):
Jesus.
Josh Scramble (09:40):
Oh, you know, it's Bring it.
Jerry Pancake (09:41):
Good old one eyed Cosby.
Elizabeth Benedict (09:43):
Tangent.
Josh Scramble (09:44):
Well, that's
Jerry Pancake (09:44):
that's And giving you the one eyed Cosby had a
different meaning back when hewas a healthy man.
Josh Scramble (09:49):
Yeah. Giving you the one at Cosby. That's
Jerry Pancake (09:51):
He did that a lot. Anyway,
Josh Scramble (09:54):
get Cosby. Oh,
Jerry Pancake (09:57):
speaking of people from the jazz age, Bill
Cosby, ladies and gentlemen.Well subject there. It it was
Well, you was, like,
Elizabeth Benedict (10:04):
shaking hands and kissing babies, I
think.
Jerry Pancake (10:06):
Yeah. Okay. So this guy, this fella, named
Fulton is the mayor, and, we'retalking about how what he did in
the jazz age.
Elizabeth Benedict (10:16):
19 thirties.
Jerry Pancake (10:17):
Okay. Go ahead. Right. Elizabeth Benedict.
Elizabeth Benedict (10:20):
Alright. So shaking hands and kissing
babies, maybe doing a littleextra on the side by early 1930,
though. Things started heatingup more than my morning coffee.
Rumors spread of corruption,dirty money, hidden deals, and
suddenly, Fulton found himselfin a spotlight for all of the
wrong reasons. Now here's whereit gets juicy.
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May 15, 1930 with accusationsflying faster than flapjacks on
the griddle. Fulton retreated tohis lake house on Oak Avenue.
Josh Scramble (10:52):
Right here. Very close. Stone's throw.
Elizabeth Benedict (10:55):
Yeah. And on, May 17th, he was found dead.
Initially, it was a suicide.Folks at Fulton's Downbeat, his
own namesake club weren't buyingit. Do you
Jerry Pancake (11:05):
think there are relatives of the people that are
on the day shift at Flamingo atFulton's Downbeat at that time?
Josh Scramble (11:14):
Oh god. And so, like, 3rd generation.
Jerry Pancake (11:16):
3rd generation camo.
Josh Scramble (11:18):
Day shift. Oh. I shouldn't name names. Schools?
Jerry Pancake (11:22):
Yeah. Like, so, like, someone's grandfather
Elizabeth Benedict (11:25):
like, oh, I see what you're saying.
Josh Scramble (11:27):
The people
Elizabeth Benedict (11:28):
that are locals nowadays, they're
Josh Scramble (11:30):
Yeah. Actually, we were while we were kinda
talking about this, like, acouple weeks ago, like, you
know, I've been in Miller solong. My great great grandfather
was getting drunk at 9 AM downat Fulton's Down Beat.
Elizabeth Benedict (11:42):
It was called generational
Jerry Pancake (11:43):
Alcoholism. Like, it follows you. Yeah. It's in
your genes, apparently. My momalways said that I would be an
alcoholic.
She was right. A few things shewas right about. But no. Like, I
just think about it like thisthe generations, these people
that say they've lived in Millerfor, like, a 100 years or
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whatever, they might have beenat Fulton's Downbeat or Hot and
Bothered or one of thesefabulous clubs, like Miller's
mix and mingle.
Josh Scramble (12:14):
Someone's grandfather had to be at that
club.
Jerry Pancake (12:16):
I know.
Josh Scramble (12:17):
I'm sure
Elizabeth Benedict (12:17):
there's plenty. Plenty that actually
knew him.
Jerry Pancake (12:20):
So what happened to him?
Elizabeth Benedict (12:21):
Oh, okay. So they were buying it. They said
things like Fulton knew too muchor he crossed the wrong guy over
a hot and bothered quote quoteunquote, hinting that the
scrambled mess of Gary'spolitics might have pushed him
to the edge.
Josh Scramble (12:37):
So either he was framed or he just couldn't take
the corruption and end it atall?
Elizabeth Benedict (12:41):
It sounds like, basically, he didn't
commit suicide, so I don't know.
Jerry Pancake (12:45):
I mean, I think he killed himself. Here. You
just wanna I think
Josh Scramble (12:50):
Also, like, it's 19 thirties. Like, how much
could really be going on inGary? Like, although there was a
lot of shit going on, I mean,steel mills were kicking in full
stream. Like, people were dying,getting dumped into liquid
steel. And What?
I don't I there was no safetyback then. Like, that's why
there was 50,000 workers. Like,one fell in the melt molten pit
(13:11):
and, you know, you just putanother one up. Oh,
Jerry Pancake (13:14):
this it was in the New York Times, apparently.
Josh Scramble (13:17):
Well, Gary used to be something.
Elizabeth Benedict (13:19):
The amount of, like, murders I'm sorry.
Being from Illinois, the amountof murders and serial killers
and conspiracies in Indiana hasblown my mind.
Josh Scramble (13:30):
Well, I mean, Jerry's dad knew, like, half of
those serial killers.
Jerry Pancake (13:33):
He did. He has met a lot of them. Gacy. Some
people even say it's Jerry's
Josh Scramble (13:39):
dad that inspired all the murder.
Elizabeth Benedict (13:40):
You know, Belle Gunness? You know that
story with, like Yeah. Mymother-in-law has collected all
of this information, writtenlike a screenplay. Great great
Josh Scramble (13:52):
great info.
Jerry Pancake (13:54):
Okay. Is that the La Porte lady?
Josh Scramble (13:56):
I can't remember.
Elizabeth Benedict (13:57):
But it's basically she invited men to her
house Yes.
Josh Scramble (14:01):
Killed them.
Jerry Pancake (14:02):
Yeah. That's the La Porte lady. She run
Josh Scramble (14:04):
that she run an Airbnb and She did.
Jerry Pancake (14:07):
Her did.
Elizabeth Benedict (14:08):
In the in the paper.
Jerry Pancake (14:09):
She was Yeah. She would advertise for, like Well,
you know Hey. Are you atransient that has no family?
I'll rent you a room for, like,$10.
Elizabeth Benedict (14:18):
Basically, she burned down the whole house.
Jerry Pancake (14:20):
Yeah. Oh, when she was
Elizabeth Benedict (14:21):
She may or may not have lived.
Jerry Pancake (14:23):
Yeah. No one knows. She was a handsome woman.
Look at this mayor Fulton fuck.
Elizabeth Benedict (14:28):
Okay. Here we go.
Jerry Pancake (14:29):
Just and it's hard to describe.
Josh Scramble (14:31):
You see the guy on the left there?
Jerry Pancake (14:33):
Yeah. This so this
Josh Scramble (14:34):
Oh my god. Like, I literally worked with a guy
that is, like, almost spittingimage of him.
Jerry Pancake (14:38):
Yeah. Well, he looks like a like a he would be
probably at any clan rally
Josh Scramble (14:45):
back in those times. Flogged himself after
seeing a woman doing aCharleston.
Elizabeth Benedict (14:49):
Nice. He seems nice.
Jerry Pancake (14:51):
He seems like a nice white very white guy.
Josh Scramble (14:55):
White shit.
Elizabeth Benedict (14:55):
Like h?
Josh Scramble (14:57):
Powder was less white.
Jerry Pancake (14:58):
I mean, they had to probably like, they had to
put shadows in just so you see aface on the white background
because, like, otherwise, itwould be super white. And then
there is another guy thatapparently defeated him, this
Roswell Johnson. No offense toanyone that's related to either
of these 2 fuckers.
Josh Scramble (15:18):
Well, Roswell Johnson, you know, I just had to
advertise this you know, hiscampaign slogans. Go with the
man with the tan, not old way. Imean
Elizabeth Benedict (15:25):
What's the police report? Honestly, the
police
Jerry Pancake (15:27):
report. So let's look at it. Hey. This is a we we
are doing audio only for thepodcast.
Josh Scramble (15:33):
So Yeah. That's very
Jerry Pancake (15:34):
true. That is imagining what these visuals
look like.
Elizabeth Benedict (15:39):
Links are in the notes.
Jerry Pancake (15:40):
It looks, it looks just like you would think,
in the 19 twenties.
Josh Scramble (15:44):
It is our thirties, but spot on.
Elizabeth Benedict (15:46):
That one out.
Jerry Pancake (15:47):
I mean, look at those hats. Would you wear one
of those hats? Point? No.They're like a bucket hat
almost?
Elizabeth Benedict (15:53):
Yeah. Like, the low the low waist dresses.
Jerry Pancake (15:56):
Oh, yeah. Low hey, man. You don't want a high
skirt because you wanna whenyou're doing that Charleston,
you want it to swing aroundreal, like,
Josh Scramble (16:04):
give it a turner effect going with the our skirt
swinging?
Jerry Pancake (16:08):
It it's a Titanic look for sure if if anybody
knows what
Josh Scramble (16:11):
mean, that was just a few years before.
Jerry Pancake (16:13):
Yeah. If anybody knows what the people looked at,
like, on the Titanic in themovie, This is what they looked
at, like, in Gary here.
Elizabeth Benedict (16:21):
Wait. When was the Titanic? Wasn't this a
little earlier?
Josh Scramble (16:24):
Titanic was the 3rd 31? Wait.
Jerry Pancake (16:28):
What's the name of the Titanic? 33.
Josh Scramble (16:32):
Well, hang on. Jerry, they didn't give us the
day off, so I don't remember it.
Elizabeth Benedict (16:35):
Well, the Titanic was higher class,
though.
Josh Scramble (16:37):
Hey. Most of the people that died on the Titanic
were just regular old folk.
Elizabeth Benedict (16:41):
Well, in the movie.
Josh Scramble (16:43):
I prefer that they invented that story that
they trapped all the poor peopleunderneath to let the riches get
off. I They think of that.
Jerry Pancake (16:49):
They did always. Rich people were way more
important than poor people, andit's still the case. I'm loud.
Josh Scramble (16:57):
They're more catered. No.
Elizabeth Benedict (16:59):
They're not more important. They're more
catered to.
Josh Scramble (17:01):
Yeah. Well, this shows how much I paid attention
in school. The Titanic was 20years before this in 1912.
Elizabeth Benedict (17:08):
I knew it.
Jerry Pancake (17:08):
How did they so I think back about these days, and
I just think Randomly? I youknow, I can't remember them
because I wasn't born for, like,70 years or whatever after. But,
I think
Elizabeth Benedict (17:21):
Me too. How the fuck
Jerry Pancake (17:22):
did they make this shit in the 9 in 1906? How
do you make a ship like that? Alot of people probably died.
Josh Scramble (17:30):
Easy. It was
Jerry Pancake (17:31):
very dangerous. Have you ever seen a bolt, like,
from the Titanic? It was like
Josh Scramble (17:35):
can they that's why you're asking. Like, the
steel mill. Yeah. Like, 9 tonsof people died.
Elizabeth Benedict (17:41):
Can we compare it to the Titanic plunge
of that submarine?
Jerry Pancake (17:46):
I mean, How do
Elizabeth Benedict (17:47):
you do that?
Josh Scramble (17:48):
Well, that was built with, like,
Jerry Pancake (17:50):
their cut
Josh Scramble (17:51):
someone just went out and welded 2 trash cans
together and then decided to usethose, like, PlayStation
controller.
Jerry Pancake (17:57):
That Titanic, submarine or whatever, that
thing was, like, a, I think, aTimu. They got it at Timu. Like
and they were like, oh, man. Igot a great deal on this
submarine, and and I'm gonnacharge people $250,000, and it's
got, like, a PlayStationcontroller.
Josh Scramble (18:15):
Hey, Bob. You know, we we could buy this
really nice one on Amazon for300,000, but I found this one on
Timu for half the cost.
Jerry Pancake (18:22):
Dude, you would think millionaires would be,
like, super smart and be like,oh, show me the control how do
you control this thing? And theyjust get, like, a, like, a
PlayStation controller out, andthey're like, with this. Like I
mean, like, I'm not getting onthat fucking thing. You're nuts.
Josh Scramble (18:38):
You remember Metal Gear Solid? I'm using the
same exact controller for this.
Jerry Pancake (18:43):
We went back to the PlayStation 1 because it's
more reliable.
Josh Scramble (18:46):
No rumble stick.
Jerry Pancake (18:47):
And it was like a Bluetooth too. It wasn't even
wired in. I'm like, man, youbetter have everything wired in
in a summary.
Josh Scramble (18:54):
Well, also, that was my favorite thing about that
whole summary. Like, the factthat there was a billionaire and
his son who died on it, like,kudos to you for dying for your
dumbass decisions. That was myfavorite thing. Like, I couldn't
have been happier when I heardthat. It's dark, and I don't
care.
I could not have been happierthat they were that stupid.
Like, I hope the money goes tosome charity or at least it
Jerry Pancake (19:14):
It won't. It'll go to the relatives of those
terrible people that will poordecisions. They will also be
terrible with their body and
Josh Scramble (19:21):
mouth. Year old girl, like, I'm gonna go buy a
new wardrobe because my dad diedon a submarine because he was
stupid. Thoughts?
Jerry Pancake (19:27):
No. Elizabeth Benedict?
Josh Scramble (19:30):
You wanna talk to try?
Elizabeth Benedict (19:32):
To cry. That's correct. Illegal
gambling, moonshine, and murder.And
Jerry Pancake (19:36):
Okay. So we're looking at this.
Elizabeth Benedict (19:37):
I was distracted. I don't even I can't
I was just saying. I'm so sorry.
Jerry Pancake (19:41):
I I wanna give a shout out to this website, and I
don't know who's doing it, butit's called, r gary stories dot
com, and this is a real website.And I had I had come upon this,
I don't know, a couple years agowhen I when I could not sleep,
which is often, and I'm justgoogling on my phone, and I
wanna know about what was goingon in the early 1900 in the town
(20:04):
that I live in.
Weird Al (20:06):
Where I harvest my grain, I take a look at my wife
and realize she's very plain,but that's just perfect for an
Amish like me. You know I shunfancy things like
Josh Scramble (20:16):
WFBR Super Beach Radio, the best station between
Rush and Ripley.
Weird Al (20:21):
Jacob Plow. The chickens and Jacob Plow. Cool.
And I've been milking andplowing so long that even
Ezekiel thinks that my mind isgone.
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don't see what you want, we'llmake it custom. I I'm I'm not I
don't know about that becausewe're cool like that.
Remember that old ratty shirtyou've been rocking won't save
you from being a total disaster.But so cool shirts just might.
Trust me. I'm Jerry Pancake. Idon't know why you would trust
(21:39):
me or listen to me, but I knowbad decisions when I see them.
So cool shirts.com. Get cool orstay boring.
Elizabeth Benedict (22:03):
All you guys do is just sit up there and talk
about how fucking cool you are.
Barack Obama (22:08):
Miller Beach, this is your president.
Josh Scramble (22:10):
When I'm hanging out at Flamingos, I light a
Barack Obama (22:12):
camel and put on the Miller Morning Mad House
with Jerry Pancake and JoshScramble.
Jerry Pancake (22:18):
Alright, folks. That's it for today's episode of
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just trivia with Josh Scramblehosted at the Marshall J Gardner
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It's the only trivia night wherethe questions are just as
unpredictable as the answers.Join us if you dare and a shout
out to the Miller CommunityTheatre, also at the Marshall J
Gardner Center, where the localstars shine bright. Big thanks
to the MBACD for hosting theseawesome events and making Miller
(23:01):
Beach the place to be. Thanksfor hanging out with us, Miller
Beach. We will be back nextSunday, hopefully, with a brand
new episode.
That is if we are not toohungover. No promises. But stay
cool, stay crazy, and keepsupporting the madhouse.
Josh Scramble (23:19):
Cheat you.
Elizabeth Benedict (23:24):
I said I'm wondering just how you taste.
She laughed and said, I knowjust where to begin. She said, I
know you like breakfast food.I'm about to blow your mind. I
(23:45):
have a sandwich that was madefor your kind.
It's the moon's over my head.It's got cheese and egg. Eat it
on sourdough as you check out mylegs. It spoons over my heavy
(24:07):
with its eggs and cheese. Spreadit on sourdough as you taste the
green.
(24:31):
Instant moon's over my heaven.It's got cheese and eggs. Eat it
on sourdough as you check out myleg. Moon's over my hammy with
bits, eggs, and cheese. Spreadon sourdough as you check out my
(25:11):
legs.
Moon's over my hammy with bitsof eggs and cheese. Spread it on
sourdough as you taste
Josh Scramble (25:27):
the green.
Jerry Pancake (25:30):
Jam's a bam. What's a bam? Well, you wouldn't
even know.
Josh Scramble (25:33):
What was Do you understand the words that you're
talking about in my mouth? No.Do you speak it in English?
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