Week 12 Recap, Week 13 Preview

Cecil and Joe recap week 12 and preview week 13 of the NFL season!

Episode Transcript

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Hello, and welcome to the thirdand the don Football Show. I'm Joe
with me Cecil as always, hereto recap Week twelve of the NFL season,
otherwise known as Thanksgiving Week, andhere to preview week thirteen of the
season. Cecil, how you doing? It was an interesting week, you
know, you get to eat someturkey, watch some games, watch some
teams blow it. You know,it was an interesting week. You know

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for all those people out there infantasy world, fancy football, the playoffs
are upon us. So that's interesting. I'm alive in all of our leagues.
I control my own destiny, whichis important. And let's hope I
getting those playoffs and make some noise. That's what the dream is right there.
See, if you can win somechampionships, have bragging rights over your
friends. Let's get started with arecap of week twelve seis. The first

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game of the week was the ThanksgivingDay game. We have the Packers upsetting
the Lions. Had a little bitof Jared goof going on. He did
throw it for three to thirty twoyards, but just didn't look too too
sharp. The Packers, i think, really opened this game him up very
well. And that's what what ledthem to get the win. They were
able to get the lead, andthey just kind of hung onto it for
the rest of the day. It'sone of those those games that it seemed

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like the score it got closer thanit actually kind of was at the end
there. Yeah, the goof troopwas in full effect in this one.
Yeah, Jared Goff just really notpushing the ball down field, pretty much
not doing anything the entire first half. It was just a lot of like
they weren't being really aggressive. Itwas just like the it was a very

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weird problem in the offense because itwas one of those games where they just
were completely out of rhythm. Youknow, the protection wasn't great upfront,
but it wasn't like the worst thingever. You know, they couldn't find
Jared Goff, couldn't find any receiverthat was more than ten yards away,
even if they were open or not. He just wasn't seeing the field very
well. And the Packers, Imean, like you said, they got

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off to a hot start. Theyexecuted a really high level, and they
were making big plays in the pastgame early on, you know, they're
getting huge chunk plays from a lotof their young receivers. We all know,
all the young receivers can do that. You know, it's been documented
with the Packers the the last coupleof years. But they are all young
receivers, so they are very inconsistentand that's been the bigger problem. But

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it doesn't I don't want to saythis game bodes badly for the Detroit Lions.
I don't think it does. Butit is concerning that you let a
team that's been really struggling offense theyou know, Packers didn't have Aaron Jones
in this one. AJ Dillon wasbanged up on a short week and you
know, you were at home inthis game. You have a lot of

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advantage on a short week to getthis one done against the team he had
already beaten pretty badly early in theseason. So I'm not sure what happened
in Detroit, but I mean thePackers kept their season alive Hocome that yeah,
good step for them. I knowtheir owner is not owner, because
everyone's an owner, but the directorof football operations had said something that was

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like, you know, Jordan,we'll see how things go. And it's
kind of like, well, youwaited four years for this guy, so
saying, you know, we'll seehow it goes. Kind of doesn't sound
like it's very convincing that you likehim too much. So it's good for
him too. It's a team that'syou know, I think the roster's kind
of falling apart on him. Youknow, David Bactiari played like one game
in the last two years. Itfeels like the wide receivers, as you

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said, are young. So forhim, a guy that we have hated
on and love to hate on alittle bit, it's good for him to
get that and to move forward withthat. Win the next game. I
don't have too much on this oneseas, but the Cowboys win forty five
to ten. It was a blowout. I'm sure lots of Thanksgiving televisions were
turned off or turn on to somethingelse. We had Dak Prescott playing,

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you know, MVP level right now, three hundred and thirty one passing yards,
four touchdowns, and I think thatstems from more so, you know,
even the other best teams in theleague right now. You know two
has had his issues for the Dolphins. Mahomes isn't having his classic year.
Josh Allen has turnovers, Jalen Hurtshas turnovers. You know, brock Purty

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not quite an MVP type of guy. You know, he's the four Niners
are winning. So Dak explaining prettywell. And honestly, the most notable
thing about this was that Dolly Partondressed up in the Cowboys cheering a uniform
and had Tony Romo and Jim Nancesalvating, So there you go. Yeah,
I would not have put Dolly Partonin a Cowboys cheerleader uniform on the

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Bingo card for the day, butshe did it. Yeah, God bless
her. She was hanging on thestage for her dear life. And I
mean, you know, it's it'sno Scott's staff, It's no Creed halftime.
You know, Cowboys could have donebetter at halftime. You know,
it's one of those acts. Youknow, it's it's a timeless act.
I mean, you put Dolly Partonup there, you're gonna get people watching

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it. But you know, unfortunatelya lot of the legacy acts, you're
also getting them way past the priminent. In Dolly's case, Wow, you're
talking. I can't believe she agreedto do that after all that, But
it's it was interesting. It wasa fun thing to watch on Thanksgiving with
the family. You know, haveyour wife, your grandma, every every
girl in your entire household be like, oh my god, Delly Park.

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So good for the Cowboys to tryto get the whole family involved. But
yeah, it was a good oldfashioned ass kicking. That's really all it
was. The Commanders, I mean, samhow tried to step it up in
the second half, but they're waytoo far gone. I do like how.
I mean, the Cowboys are firingon all cylinders. It wasn't like
a just fast like they torched fromthe beginning, but by the second half

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they were just destroying them. Handsoff to Dak were really putting it together.
You know, as the second halfthe season is started. You know,
I'm not gonna say MVP or anythinglike that, the feeling that's gonna
maybe start coming. I have afeeling there's gonna be a probably decent game
against the Seahawks tomorrow. We're gonnasee where that conversation Mike start getting started.

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I'm not gonna wait on that.We could talk about that for thirty
minutes. But Dak played well.The whole offense played well. Tony Follower
got in the end zone the firsttime. God feels like ten weeks.
I think it actually was. Andhats off to you know, Grob Blane
getting the UH pick six record.That was huge. Yeah, I mean

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that's and he could still tack ona lot to it. He's still playing.
Week's left in the season. Ijust want to see how many he
gets. He has better receiving statsthan a lot of receivers. I think
that saw. The one comparison wasQuentin Johnston, the first round pick out
of the Chargers. He has Ithink he has more yards and touchdowns on
him. So it's kind of crazya guy that they expected to have an
impact mee not have this big ofan impact this year and help out,

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especially after Trevon Diggs went down.But no, I think what you're saying
is right. Dak Prescott is notcurrently the favorite for the MVP. I
think he's in the consideration. Ifit was actually given to the league's best
player, might actually go to adefensive player or maybe you know, Christian
McCaffery this year's had a good year, or even Trent Williams. But it
just seems to always want to goto a quarterback. So Dak is putting

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himself in an okay position. We'llsee how he finishes down the stretch.
We still want to see him beatsome good teams. You know, we
beat beat the Eagles at the endof the season here and set this team
up well for postseason success. TheThursday night game, the Thanks Evning Night
game, we had the forty nineErs beating the Seahawks thirty one to thirteen.
Christian McCaffrey scores two touchdowns in thisone. Deebo Samuel's back healthy seven

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catches for seventy nine yards. Thiswas a game where the Seahawks struggled to
move the ball. It didn't looklike Gino Smith's arm was really bothering that
much. At least he played prettydecently. It was a lot of short
passes and underneath passes. But sincethe bye, this is more about the
forty nine Ers just being on fireright now. They've destroyed everyone in their
path and they look like to methe favorites to win the Super Bowl now,

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which is not something I thought Iwould say in the summer. Yeah,
I mean, Rock Purdy is thebig reason for that. Right.
We knew what the defense was,we knew Christian McCaffrey was great, We
knew this team could you know,make a pound of rock. I mean,
that's what we knew going in.We didn't know was that Rock Purdy
was going to be as good aslast season, which was just kind of

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the game manager type. I wouldnever thought of a million years that he
would step up his game to thisdegree where you know, they're throw over
three hundred yards and things like that. I would have never guessed that.
Ever, all the receivers are gettingthe ball, Brandon Yuka is having a
great season, Deebo Samuel no matterwhere you put him at, he's there.
Kittle's having a great season as wellafter last year's kind of was a

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little less desirable until Brock Purdy gotthere. So, I mean they are
firing all cylinders, and more importantly, all their big stars, all their
big you know, players are workingtogether and it's a cohesive unit. I
think that's something that's overlooked a lotof times in the NFL, especially you
know, other leagues of the NBA. It's a big you know, the

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stars are the stars that they gotto be able to covid yes in order
to put together a good team thatcan make a run. So the forty
Niners are doing that in the NFLand he's paying dividends week in and week
out. And you're right, Joe. I mean, of all the teams
I see in the playoff field rightnow, they are the ones that put
together the most complete performances weekend andweek out. Look like there's no sign

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of episode down. Interesting for acouple of reason. Sees one. I
think three weeks ago we probably bothhad a different opinion after they struggled in
the middle of the season. Butgetting everyone back healthy is important for that
team. And then also they doplay the Eagles this week. We're gonna
pick that game coming up and thatit will be a very big one to
decide playoff seeding, possibly later ondown the road. The first ever Black

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Friday game in NFL history. Wewarned everyone about the Amazon streaming and the
commercials and how they just wanted peopleto go out of the stores and just
you log onto the TV and startbuying stuff. That did happen, But
the Dolphins dominated this one thirty fourto thirteen. You know. Two,
It didn't have very good game,but the Dolphins defense is starting to turn
it on now. They were helpedby the fact that Tim Boyle was starting

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for the Jets. I think ZachWilson might be a little bit better than
Tim Boyle. The highlight of thegame was probably Tim Boyle throwing it a
Hailmary into the end zone at theend of the half in Javon Holland catching
it and returning it ninety nine yardsfor a touchdown. Can't say I've ever
seen that. He's very good player, Don't get me wrong, but that's
just something you don't see. Andmaybe a lack of effort by the Jets.
They seem like they're kind of givingup a little bit on the season,

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which is a little bit understandable.It is. Yeah, I mean,
this is another one where no oneever really thought the Jets would be
in this game. It was reallygonna be you know, are the Dolphins.
How well are the Dolphins going tohandle a defense like that? You
know, Tyreek Hill and Jaymon watallhad great games. Monster almost got one

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hundred yards. You know, evenJeff Wilson was getting a good share with
a chain still sidelined Tula head throughsome interceptions, though he wishes he had
back. So you know, it'syou'd like that not to happen. That
could pay a lot more you know, if the Jets had some Somewhae's an
offense that could capitalize book points ofthe board when this game unless you're giving

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up picks, you know, picksixes, which you know one turnover was
returned for a touchdown for the Jets. Outside that, with Tim Boyle,
they are worse than what was ZachWilson. So, I mean, I
get that everyone wanted them to makea change. We were saying, you
know, we look at Tim Boyle, that's not a change that's gonna make
sense. So they've had to signsomeone else, which they refused to do

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Zac Wilson at least. I meanit's not good. It's he shouldn't start
in the NFL. But Tim Boyleis worse, and by a large margin.
And that's saying something considering how muchof a large Martin Zach Wilson is
barely on the level of capable backupI wint and consider him one of the

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I mean better backups in the league. Honestly, he could probably be a
bad second stringer somewhere like good Lord. The difference between him and a top
quarterback, and then between him andTim Boyle is also just as bad,
So not good put Dak Wilson backin there, or you know, we
have a man looming where to practicetwenty one day window and they shot the

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world, string together enough games tomake it didn't matter. Part of me
hope, So part of me hope'sabsolutely not. So this can all end
with Aaron Rodgers. But Dogles getanother win. Jets are in the cellar,
and they're seasons you know, fourand seven. You know you maybe
get one more loss. AC playoffsare too competitive. I think you can

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lose one more game down to stretch. So at this point, I'm saying
there's seasons virtually over. I wouldagree. I think Aaron Rodgers is just
trying to get everyone to say,oh I look, I was able to
come back by being activated on IR. I don't even know if we'll even
play, but it's just like,oh I beat I told you, I
beat the Science I beat the Meddix, I beat all those people, and
it's like, okay, dude,whatever, But this is this is unprecedented

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unless he's doing HGH or something.So we'll see what happens and if he's
able to return and play football thisyear, that's going to be an interesting
story to watch we'll leave it atthat. We'll move on to the Sunday
game. See, so we'll startoff with the one we don't want to
talk about. First, we havethe Steelers beating the Bengals sixteen to ten.
It was an awful game to watchon pretty much both sides. Now,
the one thing I did notice ismacay and it was fired for the

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Steelers. And the Steelers actually utilizethe middle of the field with their passing
attempts, which seems to work withthe quarterback like Kenny Pickett, who doesn't
have the strongest arm. You know, you don't have all those throws to
the outside of the numbers that usuallyhelps the Bengals. Clearly, season is
over. The defense gave up thefirst four hundred yard performance by the Steelers
all year. They just don't haveenough in the tank on defense to really

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help this team. And Jake Browningcertainly isn't it, especially when you can't
run the ball. So that's that'sjust how it's going to be. Yeah,
absolutely, yeah, Steelers. Youknow, Pat Pryermouth gave him back
second games. It's being back frominjury. Wasn't getting utilized by this offense
at all of this year and hegets over one hundred yards in this one.
So I mean if von the Steelers, it ain't like keep doing it.
I mean, if he's going tokeep catching the ball in the middle

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of the field, nobody's gonna guardhim because they're afraid of picking Deontae Johnson,
which I get. You know,make teams have to cover it and
to open up the rest of thefield. It's as simple as that.
You know what your weakness is,you know what to exploit, exploit it,
and then once people have to adjustto it, then it's just like
play action, right. You establishthe run, so then you give him
a bite on the fake and youcan throw it over their heads. It's

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that simple. Utilize everything you canon the field. Don't become one dimensional,
because then teams can just key inon you, which they have with
the Steelers. So Bengals, Yeah, Jake Browning, there are people deep
open. I looked at some ofthe replays and some tape since this game
because I hate myself, and therewere times that Jake Browning had players deep

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that he just didn't throw the ball. He didn't get he doesn't get the
ball out quick enough. He doesn'tmake decisions quick enough because I mean you
talk about the protection, the protectionwas not grated a lot of times.
But at the same time, thereare many plays there where he got timing.
The Steelers were putting so many peoplein the box to try to get

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take away the short pass and takeaway the run that there were people deep
and he didn't take advantage. Andthat shows me that's the problem. You
know, with brackup quarterbacks. There'sthe projects out there who are guys with
a lot of arm talent that don'tmake the best decisions. There's the guys
that honestly are kind of like coachesand on the sideline, they're grady guys

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that can make the right plays,they just don't have elite arm talent.
Many you've got guys like Jake Browning, who I mean, he's not really
experienced in any way, and hedoesn't have the best he doesn't have plus
arm talent, and most importantly,he doesn't really show much poise or ability
to make quick decisions or you know, really challenge defense in any way.

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So that's what you definitely don't wantto out. Your backup quarterback is someone
who doesn't really even understand, like, you know, you got to take
what the defense gives you. Sure, that's a valid thing as a backup.
But when the defense is basically givingyou the deep shot, over and
over, take the deep shot.Just take it, because I swear to

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God, like running it for twoyards is not going to win you this
game anyway. You know what couldwin you the game is maybe you know,
a forty yard pass at flipsfield positionright there on one play. Not
that I want the Bengals to winthese games, but man, like,
there's things you can take away,and Jake Browning sucks is one of them.
Two. I mean, there wasnothing really that great on offense.

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Honestly, you know, I wantto see the young receivers get involved.
If you're a Bengals fan. Defense, some of the key things is some
of the defensive guys. The youngerguys did play decently well in this game.
There were times there were lapses,but DJ Turner's held up for most
of the time. There was someI mean, Jordan Battle was playing pretty
well, which is really good.They just need to get Nick Scott out

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of there forever. You know,fireman to the sun as they would say.
And honestly, Miles Murphy not thatthe you know Steelers right tackle is
anybody of note, but he wasgetting pressure and you know he was doing
something. So it's good for theBengals that some of these guys they've invested
in on the defensive early draft picks. Are there a lot of this game

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you can blame on just defense.A lot of the you know, the
interior defensive line and then the linebackersfor most part were just doing absolutely nothing
in this game. They kind ofjust wouldn't they wouldn't react to the ball.
They weren't flying to the ball,and you know, the running backs
were hitting four or five yards beforethey were getting touched. And that's a
you know, it's partly scheme,that's part just people wanting to tackle when

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it's miserable outside and you don't havethat much to play for. So things
will evaluate this season goes on.Yeah, I love your point about Jake
Browning in particular. You're a twentyseven year old rookie. You know,
you played at Washington Ages ago kindof known as a weak arm quarterback.
Accurate and smart. I get that. You know you don't have the strongest
arm, but take your chance.This is your chance, man, Like

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you're not going to get another onemost likely. So and if I'm the
Bengals too, I'm thinking, like, okay, let's put an age.
If we're trying to win, let'sput an AJ mccheron and and the dude
who you know had so many touchdownswith the Saint Louis BattleHawks and the XFL
and played well for the Bengals allthose years ago, and there's been a
pretty good When he's gotten chances inthe NFL, he's been okay. So
that's what I'm thinking. If I'mtrying to win, and Zach Taylor might

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be trying to win to save hisjob or to save the offense coordinator's job
or whatever's that's what I'd be thinking. So take your shots when you get
a chance, at least try to. So that's what we're looking for for
the Bengals the next couple weeks,and for the Steelers, just an incredible
run of just having terrible offense andstill ending up in somewhat of a playoff
picture. Here we'll see what happensdown the stretch. Next game up sease,

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we have the Falcons beating these Saintstwenty four to fifteen. We had
Desmond Ritter play pretty terribly, butthey did get their playmakers the ball.
B John Robinson ninety one yards receiveror rushing in a touchdown. Kyle Pitts,
we were watching this game live.Kyle Pitts had some cool catches.
The Saints, the same problem ispersisting. It's the inconsistency of Derek Carr.

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He had three hundred and four yards, but he threw one interception.
They have a lot of receivers whowere hurt. I know Chris Olave got
banged up in this game. Idon't know what his stat is moving forward.
Michael Thomas been banged up again,that's something that normally happens. And
Rashid Shihad also, I believe,got banged up in this game. So
they're going pretty thin on wide receiver. But it's been the same story for
the Saints, and that's why theFalcons are five and six now. Even
though the Saints are five and six, the Falcons have the lead in the

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NFC South right now, which issomething you know, I guess we didn't
really expect that much of. Yeah, I mean, it is kind of
just a weird thing. A lotof people say, as Falcons are Saints
and it is that at this point. But they're both just terrible. Yeah,
I mean, Derek Carr is abig reason why this game. I
mean, they didn't get the ballin the end zone. I don't think

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they ever did. I don't thinkthey scored a single touchdown, did they.
I'm pretty sure it was field Ithink it was off of five field
goals. Yeah, there's five fieldgoals. That tells me your offense isn't
getting it done. And I mean, honestly, i'm cam Marden to utilize
very well in this game either,you know, you know they're they're kind
of tried and true. Has beenthe dump off and you know, three

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yards past the line of scrimmage toget four or five. And they weren't
even running that play at pint time. So I don't know why, especially
when your receivers are hurt. AlKamar's kind of your safety valve you need
to go to. And it wasn'tlike this game was out of reach or
something where you know, you needall these big plays. The game was
pretty much it was a one scoregame the entire afternoon. You know,

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it wasn't really until Vijon got thissecond touchdown that anybody was really going,
this game is now out of reach. It was competitive. I mean,
I'll give Arver Smith this. Heused Vjeon Robinson and they won the game
pretty handedly. I think there's akey here. I don't know. I'm
not on the Falcons coaching staff,but if I was offensive coordinator, I

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might go, I don't know,coach. When you look at this film,
it seems pretty evident to me.But yeah, Falcons, I mean
who it doesn't matter who wins thisdivision, honest to god, is completely
worthless because they were going to gettrounced by the Eagle Slash Cowboys, So
it doesn't really matter. It's justeasy first out for whoever gets the five

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seed. It's almost like an autobuy for the second place NFC East team.
Yeah, and you know what reallykind of this begame made me realize
in a sense, was just thatthis we have Before the season, we
knew the AFC was a tougher conference, and we saw that with THEFC North
having all these playoff teams and allthe quarterbacks too, like even you know,

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when Aaron Rodgers is healthy and everything, maybe that that's a different discussion
too. But you know, CJ. Stroud is coming on in the AFC
and Bryce Young not being good inthe NFC. That also, like,
there's so many good teams in theAFC, and then you have this whole
division which is really bringing the wholeNFC down. It just really stinks for
teams like you know, the Bengals, who I guess now it wouldn't really
matter, but early in the seasonwhen they were struggling, they could probably

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be winning the NFC South. Thenthat's just that's tough to do, all
right. Next one up, wehave the Titans beating the Panther seventeen to
ten. Both these teams aren't great, so I won't spend too much time
on a couple of things. Reallyquickly. Derek Henry looks like vintage Derek
Henry. Two touchdowns on the ground. Jonathan Mingo, the receiver for the
Panthers, had a very funny playwhere it looked like he intentionally jumped out
of bounds to try to catch aball where his feet were already out of

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bounds. That just weirdly happens there, and then three seas we have to
talk about it. The Panthers fireFrank Reich and for more details about it
here. It's a lot of ownertampering. The owner has now fired what
is the three coaches in three years? You know this year they're gonna fire
Frank Reich. That you know,eleven games into the season they forced the

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trade to take Bryce Young. Thatthe reports are that Frank Reich didn't want
Bryce Young, but they forced notonly to take Bryce Young, but to
trade up and give up DJ Moorereally handcuffed him and it. You know,
Frank Reich, I think we couldagree maybe average at best NFL coach,
but like still it has some goodqualities, but stuck with this roster
and an owner who medals like DavidTepper has, it just doesn't seem like

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that was a good situation from thestart. I love how they they heard
David Tepper basically dropping f bombs walkingout of the locker room on Sunday too.
That's a weird look for an ownerto just be sitting there, going
down there and then it's just likeit's it's it's just it's dysfunctional. You
don't see other owners doing that stuffwin or loss. When you're doing stuff

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like that, especially just right aftera game, you just look completely different,
like you're not the GM you're notthe head coach. I get you
the owner. You try to putthe right pieces because you want to win,
but once it's in season, youhave zero control. You know nothing
about the NFL or you know maybepassingly at best. You cannot just sit

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there and start like meddling. Youjust got to accept it, and if
you want to make a change inthe off season, you can talk about
it. But this is turning intoone of those situations where the NFL might
have to you know, because therewas a thing back when Jimmy has Them
bought the Browns and stuff, therewas a lot of trying to find a

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decent GM that could build a teamand also be a strong enough personality to
deal with them. That might besomething that Carolina really needs as well.
Is I need somebody who's a strong, cemented, well known quantity in the
NFL to really become general manager ofthis team and basically keep Tepper out as

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much as humanly possible because reality hashaving the owner go in the locker room
isn't good. Like the players areprofessionals, they don't they want to win.
They're here to win. They werefighting for their jobs. They know
how important is they want to wintoo. The problem is they've not built
a good roster, and that startsat the GM level. So if you
want to start yelling at people,go fire your GM, because that's the

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one who's trade away all these picks. There's the one who trade away DJ
Moore. He's the one who's theevaluation to say, you know, Bryce
Young is the guy, So he'sthe one I should really be on a
head off a spike. Firing ahead coach after twelve games with a rookie
quarterback and a rebuild, it's juststupid. It's just it doesn't make any

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sense. It's like you need toknow, you got to give your coach
probably going in about three years.You know, maybe you do two it
goes horribly in the second season,but one like not even a full year
doesn't give you anything. It justmeans that Tepper never really wanted Reke in
the first place, which is whatwas reported as well. You know he

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was kind of the second choice,and yeah, it just wasn't a good
match. And from the quotes fromuh from Reike after he got fired and
just basically being like I think I'mdone in the NFL for a while,
which I get I mean, yougo through Jim Mersey and now you have
David tepperh I'm like Jesus. Heprobably is like, I'm never having I
don't want to ever answer to anyof these idiots ever again, because they

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are they are just clueless. Justmakes you wonder a lot of times.
It's about fits too, So whenyou take these jobs, maybe it's good
to stay a coordinator an extra yearuntil you can get a job with an
owner that will let you run thingsyour way. But Frank Reik is sixty
two now, and yeah, Iwould be okay. I think I would
be okay if he was like ifI were in his shoes, being like,

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hey, I might be done fora while. Maybe I'll do a
college thing, maybe a college coach, because it's a lot let more control
where you know you're gonna be theguy. I don't know, but it
didn't seem like a great hire fromthe start, weird fit, and then
it just ended so quickly, youknow. I know. Tepper has said
like he doesn't think that this willreally hurt their chances of getting a new
coach, but in the end itwill. His meddling will because he's fired

(26:44):
so many coaches so early, he'straded away draft picks, and he has
a roster that is not good rightnow. So that leads you to believe
it'd be harder to attract the bestcoaches. You're gonna have to find someone
like a diamond in the rough.Coming up next game, we have the
Colts beating the Buccaneers twenty seven intotwenty. Zach Musk and Jonathan Taylor had
big days. Taylor had two touchdowns, Michael Pittman had over one hundred yards

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receiving for the Buccaneers. There wassome offense for them too, rashound Way
he had one hundred yards rushing,and Mike Evans had a pretty big day
as well. These two teams Ithink are middling at best in the NFL,
so I don't have too much toadd there. It was just fun
to see a game of quarterbacks thatI at least like coming out of college
and Gardner Minshew and Baker Mayfield twoof the bigger personalities at quarterbacks, even
if the play doesn't match the personalityall the time. Yeah, I mean

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the Colts are playing better, I'llgive them that. Like they're playing decently
well right now. They could beThey could be a dark horse team to
get the seventh seed in the AFC, depending on how things bounce. If
they keep playing at this level.They're running games good Gardner Minshew's getting an
up out of the passing game.I mean, the defense was relentless in

(27:48):
this game. I think they hadlike six sacks something of that nature.
I mean that's a lot, especiallyfor a team that's defense has been kind
of very middling for the last coupleof years and below expectation of what we
thought. So good for them toget to win. Baker Mayfield playing hurt
again because that's what he does,and you know, it sucks because I

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get he's cited for his job inhis livelihood, but at the same time,
it's just like, I mean,when is it. It's a diminishing
return, right, you can onlyplay kind of hurt for so long before,
you know, just like we saw, you know, two years ago,
it kind of cost him his jobin Cleveland when he probably could have
just stopped and they would have justtaken care of him. So it sucks

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to be Baker Mayfield because I thinkhe honestly deserves to start in this league.
I think he's shown that. Ithink he showed that in Cleveland,
and honestly, I think he hasshown it when his very little time in
LA last year, and again he'sshown it with the Buccaneers this year.
So that guy deserves to have ashot in the NFL and be If sam

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Al can be the answer the Commanders, Baker Mayfield can be the answer for
some other team. You know,he won't be expensive compared to other starters,
and I honest the guy think youcan build a winning roster around them.
Honestly, Gud, I think theBrowns with Baker Mayfield this year before
Miles Garrett got hurt in this game, with the defense that they've had with

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Baker Mayfield, I think we wouldbe talking about a team that could make
a deep playoff rom because that's honestlywhere I see it at currently, and
that's the kind of quarterback Baker Mayfieldis. So I don't like the guy
personally. I think he's obnoxious attimes, but he deserves his shot.
I would agree, And you're rightabout him starting a lot of places.
We're seeing a lot of backup quarterbacksin this league right now and him not

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having a job at least as likea starter or a Premiere backup would be
shocking to me when you have youknow, Gardner Minshew starting for the Culture
right now, Jake Browning for theBengals, Tim Boyle for the Jets,
Tommy DeVito for the Giants. Hedeserves to have a shot at this league.
And you're right, I think ifwith the roster, if the roster
was a little bit better, hewould be in a better spot himself if

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he was healthy. The Giants beatthe Patriots ten to seven. Seas Tommy
Devido gets the win. One hundredand ninety one yards and a touchdown looks
a little bit better. Do youreally utilized deal on Hyatt? The rookie
out of Tennessee had one hundred andnine receiving yards. This was the game
we did not watch on our quadbox of NFL Sunday ticket. It was
not one we really desired to watch, and for good reason. The Giants

(30:23):
went ten to seven. These twoteams stake. The Patriots have turned things
over to Bailey's Appy again. It'sjust there's no end insight for it.
So that's how it went. Yeah, Bill Belichick basically out the door at
Jones. They finally decided to reallybench so that's good Andre Stevenson, the

(30:44):
run game with Ezekiel Elliott. Theyboth had decent days. That's the only
silver lining of your Patriots fan afterthat. You know, running backs are
probably the most fleeting thing in theNFL. That mean almost next to nothing
when your team is in the dumbs, Eric Henry or somebody like that.
If you don't have like a topthree running back, that piece doesn't matter
because that guy's probably gonna be badby the time you guys are good again

(31:07):
in three years. So yeah,there is no silver lighting. It's a
full teardown. Just hope you getthe number one pick and can start over.
You know, it was never gonnabe what it was, you know,
New England. I mean, you'rea Boston sports fan. You you
had one of the best runs inyou know, sports history in general,

(31:32):
not and like the whole city ofBoston too, between them Patriots, Red
Sox and Celtics, you know,I mean two and twenty ten's have been
I mean they're pretty much. Thereare a lot of sports cities out there
which do anything straight places for youfor that time. So you enjoyed it.
This this shit happens. Welcome backto the the Patriots of the of

(31:56):
the nineties. Basically, that's wherewe're at. And you know, maybe
Robber Kraft can get the right youknow, people in place to make this
not be a painful rebuild. Butyeah, I mean, it's just a
bunch of old vets that don't haveanything left in the tank. And it's
nobody wants to come play for thePatriots anymore. They just they need to

(32:17):
revolutionize their team. And that prettymuch means you have to get a new
head coach, as painful as thatis to hear. And that doesn't mean
Bill Belichick can't work somewhere else.But I just think you know what he's
got, and you know how whatI mean, there's just it's there's not
enough time to do a rebuild.Like Bill Belichick doesn't really want to do
a rebuild. Honestly, I don'tthink he's too old for it. I

(32:42):
think he wants to get those thecareer wins, and I think he wants
a team that can compete because Imean, you look at most of those
Patriots teams, they were vet Like. He doesn't like developing rookies, really,
he doesn't really like it. Hekind of wants an older team wants
an established team. He wants guysthat will could police the locker room and

(33:04):
upsold his standards for beatings, beingon time, all these things that Bill
Belichick loves. And they you know, younger guys you gotta be a little
more flexible with and you know,especially these days, I mean, head
coaches are getting younger and younger,and Bill Belichick's only getting older. And
I mean that guy's ability to connectwith, you know, some guy who's
twenty five years old is nigh impossible. And I think that's really just showing

(33:30):
now. And I think you getagain, you get a veteran team,
you know, or people just withtalent. I think Bill Belichick can be
a great thing for that franchise.It's just it's too little, too late.
It's just time for a change ofscenery for him. Yeah, Tommy
Deville looked a little better in thisgame. I mean, I'll give their

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I mean, I'll give it tothem. I mean the Giants are are
kind of trying to make it workas best they can. Obviously, Brian
Dables, I mean, he's coachingfor his job, and I don't think
he should get fired for this becausethis isn't really his fault. Also,
that he's able to pretty much wingames and put up stats with Tommy DeVito's
third string quarterback shows you how goodof a coach Brian Dabole is. And

(34:15):
he doesn't deserve to be the oneblame for this because it's not his fault.
He didn't commit, he didn't draftDanny Dimes, he never said he
wanted Danny Dimes. And Danny Damesis there, and honest to god,
you can see the production he's gettingout of Tyrod and out of Tommy DeVito.
Just if they can get rid ofDanny Dimes somehow, they need to.
I don't think it's even possible,unfortunately because the contract. So yeah,

(34:38):
it's just it's a shitty situation forhim. Giants get the win.
I mean, I'm a Brian Dabolefan. I think he's made the most.
He's made good players great. Ithink he's able to elevate talent,
especially for quarterbacks in the offense.And I think he is getting a bad
rep for what's happening with the Giant. I think he deserves more prise than

(35:01):
he gets. I would agree.Yeah, Daniel Jones with his contract,
will probably be on the Giants andmaking forty million dollars on the bench next
year. That's just how the contractis drawn up. It makes a lot
more sense scurity of him after nextseason. And if you're going to draft
a quarterback like they might, althoughthey're getting out of range to do so.
With these wins, that rookie quarterbackwould not have a big large salary

(35:21):
would not help, you know,it wouldn't be that big of a deal
to have Daniel Jones on the benchwith forty million. Next one up seats,
We'll go to a better game here. We had the Jaguars beating the
Texans twenty four to twenty one.Jaguars got out to lead in this one.
Trevor Lawrence played pretty well and theTexans came back late. CJ.
Stroud kept this composure. There wassome places where he kind of looked like
a rookie, but he kept hiscomposure. Nico Collins had a pretty good

(35:44):
game one hundred and four yards andone touchdown. It ended up looking closer
than it actually was with all thecomeback heroics that they needed from the Texans.
But I'll tell you what, seethis Jaguars team at eight and three
might be a real threat in theAFC, and that's something again, I
don't think we would have thought thata couple weeks ago. Yeah, I
think they've really played well. Ithink Calvin Ridley's played well. I think

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Trevor Lawrence has stepped up after acouple of poor performances. Tevi's ETN is
kind of middled out a little bit, which is kind of weird. And
the defense is playing really is playingpretty well. They're getting pressure, Josh
Allen especially. I mean the AFCreally it feels wide open because I mean

(36:27):
it, it feels wide open,and it doesn't because it's kind of like,
you don't know. Pat Mahomes couldpretty much just turn it on and
they could just win because she's hada really good defense and Pat Mahomes.
The only thing that really worries meis, like we saw in the Eagles
game, the people aren't gonna beable to catch the passes. And that's
the big problem is I think PatMahomes can make it work. I think

(36:51):
Pat Mahomes and with that defense tomake it far, but he just doesn't
have the reliable people that when heneeds to really drive down the field.
Right now, Travis Kelsey's getting doubleteam, triple team. These other guys
are going to make a play,and I know where she Rice has kind
of stepped up. But it's it'shard to bet against the Chiefs, but

(37:12):
the Jaguars are putting on a show, and honestly, the Texans. I'd
be worried about playing the Texans too. I won't want to play him in
the playoffs. I think CJ.Stroud is playing really well. I'm sure
he makes some kind of rookie mistakesat times, but he's his functional mobility,
which is huge. I think heyou know, he's not some guy
who's trying to you know, rushfor a lot of yards or anything that

(37:35):
He's not really a running quarterback,but he has legs and he buys himself
a lot of time back there.Maybe holds on the ball a little too
much. I mean, I keephearing like Joe Burrow comparisons, and it
doesn't play a lot of the sameway. Holds on the ball a little
too much at times, you know, but can just make things happen.
He's a creator. He makes playsyou know where there weren't any. He

(37:57):
buys times with his legs and justwait through the open man and it's crazy
some of the plays he can make. But the same problems with Joe Burrow,
especially early on, where he holdson the ball too much, he
takes too many sacks, he triesto create sometimes too much when he should
probably just throw it away. Soit's it's a weird. It's a very

(38:19):
surprising comparison. I wouldn't have thoughtof it, but I mean, since
I see C. J. Stroudplay the last couple of weeks, it
really does feel pretty similar to whenI watch Bengals games in a lot of
ways where I don't think they're reallyever out of a game, and that's
really important. I think Jamiico Ryanshas that defense playing really well and playing
way above their talent level. Iwould take Damian Pierce out of the backfield,

(38:43):
honestly, he should be the changeof pace back because there's one thing
that was kind of lacking this gamewas the run game. And you know
the difference between the two games.You know, a couple of games before
they were straying together a run gamein this one. It's obviously the Jacksonville
Jaguars are better, but two,Damian Pierce's back and Dave Pearce has proven
throughout the season. He doesn't deserveto be the lead back. He doesn't

(39:04):
really deserve to be, you know, a full running back by committee.
He's a change of pace guy rightnow until he proves otherwise. So a
lot of things like with the TexansJaguars are stepping up. I mean,
they're definitely the number two right now. They're the ones you picked to say
something's gonna be the Chiefs, that'sgonna be them. But outside that,

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I wouldn't I mean, honestly,God, depending on how the rest of
the season goes, I wouldn't besurprised if I see myself putting a low
money on the Houston Texas, nota ton, but a little bit,
because the odds are gonna be great, and I just believe maybe it's just
the I've watched Joe Burrow do ittwo years in a row kind of deal,

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but just watching a you know,having the guy and C. J.
Stroud at this point is officially movedon from being rookie quarterback too.
He's the guy for Houston going forward. I don't think anyone could argue that
anymore. And they're scoring points,they're moving the ball, and they're moving
it and they're making big plays,and I don't know if the whole NFL
is ready for it. Honestly,I think they get a better kicker,

(40:08):
you know, because their kicker isa signe. You know, maybe I
don't know what Canning Fairbaran's out forthe year or whatever they're kicking can get
a little better too. I'm nottalking about the last play. I'm just
talking it's been a little if youlook, and when it the leaves the
hole. So I like the HoustonTexans still. They're probably not gonna win

(40:29):
the South now because the Jaguars havea lead and it's too late in the
season. But you know, asa wildcard team one hundred percent, I
want one to play them, andI think they can still make things happen.
Well. Disagreeffirming our stance as stroudboys for this season, cecil,
and also is a good time toremind everyone to gamble responsibly if you're going
to start betting on the Texans towin the Super Bowl. But I'm with

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you. I think it's they've shownsome life to make o Ryans has to
be Coach of the Year front runnerright now my mind, just done an
excellent job in a situation. Hedid not expect to see them with a
winning record this late in the season, so good for them. Next game
we have the Broncos beating the Brownstwenty nine to twelve. Broncos now on
a five game winning streak. Theyjust keep on getting the job done.

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It seems like more so their defenseis turning things on a little bit easier.
In this game, when the Brownsare starting Dorian Thompson Robinson, he
ends up getting knocked out of thisgame. PJ. Walker comes in.
It doesn't really matter. The Brownsoffense, no matter who's been a quarterback,
whether it's Sean Watson or those guys, has been pretty dysfunctional this year,
especially after Nick Schubb went down forthe season pretty early on in the

(41:34):
air. But Broncos getting some life, getting some playoff life. I think
Sean Payton finally got through to someof the guys. Yeah. And I
think another big thing that we talkedabout I talked about last week was there's
been a big change in this teamsince they cut a lot of veterans on
defense like Grandon Gregory. And Isaw some stats earlier today that pretty much
were highlighting that exact thing again.So there's a big key here. I

(41:59):
think Maye Peyton Baby didn't get tothe certain people, but the people he
wasn't getting to. And this canhappen a lot when you're a rebuilding team,
especially with ag Betts. Is ifyou're not gonna get with the program,
you gotta get out. Is thatsimple, Like you're not part of
the long term plan. Randy Gregoryisn't a foundational piece at thirty one years
old. If you're gonna start causingissues and you're not gonna give effort because

(42:23):
you know you hate this or hatethat, any head coach will know.
We'll go over to the gm belike trade him, cut him. I
don't need him because there's a youngerguy that's bought in after him that's giving
me three times as much effort.And honestly, I think the talent level
is really not that different, especiallyconsidering how much younger he is in the
motor he has. So Sean Paytonmade that decision. You know, after

(42:45):
they got killed by the Dolphins,you know they they didn't just go It'll
get better. And that's that's ahallmark of a really good coach and a
good organization. As is dysfunctional.It's been getting Russell Wilson and how dysfunctional
has really been since you know,they won that Super rowle Peyton Manning and
he retired. They are trying tomake something happen, and that can be

(43:07):
more than be said a lot aboutfranchise in the NFL, because there's too
many teams that want to wait,wait for their window. And you know,
there's a difference between mortaging the franchise, which they had to do,
but at least they had the foresightright now to try to get a cohesive
unit together. I think it isworking. I think the younger guys are
coming together and it's having results onthe field. So Brown Quicks had another

(43:30):
win. They're in the wild cardhunt right now. I don't believe they're
the seventh seed. I mean again, it's a it's up in the air
for the seventh seed the AFC rightnow. I mean, it's gonna be
hard, it's tough, slutting,but I mean it's really a question of
I mean the Browns. You justbeat the Browns. That was a team
that was gonna be in the wildcardhunt. You got teams like the Steelers

(43:53):
whose offense has not been good.You know, Traditionally, good teams like
the Chargers have just been in thecellar all year. So yeah, it's
a weird year, and I meanit's not gonna be easy, but there's
a road to get that seventh seed. You just got to be ready to
fight for it. And Broncos areshowing their willing absolutely total turnaround from how

(44:16):
they started the season. So wetalked about the Vikings the past weeks about
turning things around. Broncos have aswell, so they could be in good
position to make the playoffs if thecouple more wins. Here, we'll move
on to the Rams meeting the Cardinalsthirty seven to fourteen. Two bad teams.
We know that because the Rams nowbeat the Cardinals twice for two of
their five wins and otherwise have playedpretty bad. They got a boost Fromkien

(44:39):
and Williams are turning. They endedup waving Daryl Henderson, who they brought
in for the short term, butWilliams had one hundred and forty three yards
rushing. Kyler Murray didn't play toobad, didn't play too great either.
It's just a terrible situation there inArizona. To be honest and these are
two teams that will not be inthe playoffs, and I have nothing further

(45:00):
to say. But then, it'salways good to see a running back like
Karen Williams provide that much of ajuice to an offense. Yeah, he's
put on his best Todd Gurley impersonationthere. For me, the two years
that Todd Gurley was amazing, especiallythat one year, that's what it looked
like. It looked like Sean McVaydust about the old playbook and just went,

(45:21):
this guy is gonna make our offenserun one way or another. He's
gonna get the ball in the backfield, he's gonna rush, he's gonna catch
passes out of the backfield. He'sgonna do it all. And I don't
care if it's forty touches for him. It's that's where we're going until somebody
figures it out. And the Cardinalshad no response to it. And it's
hard to when you're a team that'sbeen losing so much to have a team

(45:43):
just go physical at you like thatis I mean, who who wants to
keep getting up to get punched backdown over and over? I mean no
one, really, And when there'sI mean there's nothing really for you to
be fighting for. There's no lightthe end of the tunnel at the end
of the season, there's no playoffs. You're fighting before, you're just you're
just there. At this point.The rams good for Sean McVay to continue.

(46:07):
I mean, Sean McVay has beenout of it the last two years,
and you can you can say alot about that. Why the team's
got off the slow starts and whyyou know they're not competing, probably because
they mortgage all the draft picks andhave no depth. But both ends of
the seasons here, both times thelast two years, Sean McVay is making
it work with the pieces that arethere, and he's going to maximize it.

(46:29):
And that's a great coach too.So I mean, Sean McVay safe
in LA For me. If theytry to get rid of him, which
there's no real talk of, Ithink that would be a bad decision.
It shows he shows me that he'sa great x's and o's coach, and
he's a great motivator. To havethese guys fighting this eave of the season.
They just need some some people.They need some young, controllable talent.

(46:53):
Well, you mentioned how many draftpicks they had this past year,
and like almost all of a manthe roster because they just they didn't have
any players. That's not always agood thing when you have to have all
those young guys make the roster fromthe start. But they're getting some contributors.
I think they're finding some things outthis year. If they can get
maybe one more good year out ofStafford next year, things could be different.
You know, they have draft pickscoming up for the next couple of

(47:14):
years. Maybe they go all inone more time with Stafford and get things
figured out. We have the Chiefsbeating the Raiders thirty one to seventeen CIS.
And it started off they were losingearly in this game and maybe a
little bit of a panic set in. Some of the smart people maybe bet
on the Chiefs live and that's whatwe do. But the good thing for
the Chiefs is they finally solved theirfourth quarter touchdown problem, as they had

(47:37):
not scoring a touchdown in the fourthquarter for like four or five weeks before
this. They ended up getting wonin this game. They went by fourteen,
which was pretty much expected. Goodfight for the Raiders, but the
Chiefs really needed this get right game. To make sure their offense can get
back on track right. And youknow, it is one of those things.
Raiders are outclassed good. They gotDeVante Adams and the Chakobe Myers both

(47:59):
got the ball in this game.Imagine that both of them getting it.
But yeah, DeVante Adams say,we're throwing it deep to him. He
was making big plays And honestly,that's all I need for this coach of
the Raiders go, maybe we givethis guy a shot. I don't know.
They aren't winning. It's different thanthe last time because Rick Versacia,

(48:20):
as much as I think he dida great job, it's a special teams
coach that really doesn't have that muchexperience running the organization. And I think
that roster is a lot more talentedthan this one is. So, you
know, if the Raiders don't gowith their interim head coach and just drop
the interim off the title and findsomeone else, I'm not going to say
they're idiots for doing so. Ithink that can be considered a good move.

(48:44):
Honestly, at this given moment,we have a couple of games left,
I would go with a new headcoach. I mean, not just
anybody, just for the sake ofdoing it. But I would find someone
that I believe can turn this organizationaround, which it might be hard to
find someone like that because I don'tthink that many people are really lining up

(49:05):
to sign up to coach the Raidersright now, considering the the shit show
it's been the last five years,ever since they pretty much got John Gruden
in there. So yeah, Idon't know, you know, you're he
might you know, their current internmadcoach might be the best shot they have.
It might be the person who's willingto do the dirty work and build

(49:27):
this team, because I mean,sometimes being a head coach is just as
simple as getting out of people's way, and I feel like that's what he's
done too. On the offensive sideof the ball, he just went,
I'm not gonna just meddle. I'mnot gonna make this something crazy. I
just want effort. I want usto push the ball down the field.
I think that's as simple, youknow, as a head coach, sometimes

(49:51):
I think that's the better approach.You know, obviously, you're good at
your job. You're good at whatyou do. The reason you got this
opportunity, You've been respect to enoughthe NFL to get opportunities, but sometimes
you know, you can't focus onit, and you've also got to be
willing to listen to other people.And I think that's why Josh McDaniels has
failed horribly here, both with theRaiders and also what he failed with the

(50:16):
Broncos, because he just wanted todo things his way and it wasn't really
collaboration because honestly, that's how itwas with his head coach in New England.
It was the way Bill wanted itto be. And you know,
we can talk about the limitations ofBill Belichick and his failures at times,
and that definitely is one. Soyeah, sometimes you got to step away

(50:38):
and let people you know, ifit's working, let it work. And
I think he's done a great jobof that, and I think he's a
great motivator and I think that's sometimesthat's what a head coach needs to be
more than anything is. You know, if you can have good coordinators,
people can scheme well, and youmake good decisions and adjustments to the right
times, you don't just do boneheaded things. You don't have to be

(51:00):
the best XL guys. You canbe the locker room guy, youn be
the cultural guy, as long asyou have a strong staff around you.
So we'll see. With the Raiders, I'll give it to them Chiefs.
They they did what they were supposedto do. They covered against the Raiders.
It was touch and go there forthe first half. But they did
score on the fourth no touchdown forTravis Kelsey, so that's also more impressive.

(51:24):
They, you know, were ableto come back score without giving Kelsey
a touchdown even though he did getyou know, almost niney receiving yards.
So again, are the what arethe Chiefs? I don't know, we'll
see this. You know, we'veseen a lot of NFL teams with the
salary cap issues where they have anelite quarterback and the rest of the team

(51:45):
is kind of not what it usedto be a lot of them, or
they have like a good defense andtheir offensive weapons aren't that good. We'll
see if Pat Mahomes can elevate likehe did last year without Tyreek Hill,
elevate the offense. It's in theplayoffs because that defense is going to keep
games close for him. He's justgonna make the players and more importantly,

(52:07):
his playmakers have to catch the ballmake something happen with it. Yeah,
definitely. And I like your pointabout Antonio Peers. I think he empowers
players. Like you said, Ithink you know he's him saying like,
even, hey, we have thebest running back from the NFL last year
in terms of rushing yards, wehave the one of the best receivers in
the league, and Devanta Adams.We're going to use those guys. Just

(52:27):
means so much to guys. Imean, it's been all about the players
on the team, even more sothan scheme in a lot of cases.
You know, even even in Miami, we're talking about Mike McDaniel being one
of the best schemers in the league. What did he do. He goes
out and gets guys that are reallyreally fast and have that talent and it's
working out for him. So Piercehas the empowering abilities that couldn't get them
the job full time. And youknow, the Chiefs still gonna be the

(52:47):
team to beat in the AFC,is probably gonna make the Super Bowl.
That's just how it's gonna be.The next game we have was an overtime
game. Those Eagles win thirty sevento thirty four. They had to come
back in this game against the Bills. The Bills were running the ball well,
especially with Josh Allen two touchdowns.Bad weather game, Eagles are able

(53:08):
to make the comeback, they tieit up, the game goes to overtime,
the Bills get a field goal,and then Galen Hurts ends up running
the game winning touchdown. And itwas a fun one to watch. There
was a lot of good offensive performancesafter the first half maybe wasn't so clean
and everything, and the second halfturned out to be a lot more offense

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and a lot more exciting. TheBills dropped to six and six. That
obviously means something for playoff scenarios inthe AFC, as you've been talking about
maybe the seventh seed or sixth seedbeing very tough to get that seed.
And the Eagles go to ten andone and all the while still not playing
the greatest football, but they justalways find a way to win. And
that's still the important thing. I'llsay it every week. I think I
say it every week with the Eaglessince about week seven or eight. But

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they just find ways to win.Yeah, I mean you can when you
get the players get interviewed af ofthese games. It's so fine listening to
post games and they like every apporteris just like, wow, that didn't
look great, but you got thewin. What do you say to that?
And they're just like, I mean, a win's a win. That's
all they care about. I meanthat's all and honest to god, that's
all any NFL team should care about. That's all Bill Belichick ever cared about.

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Honestly, when they're at their point, it wasn't about you know,
Tom Brady getting five hundred yards orthis or that. You know there were
games where Tom Brady barely threw foranything at times at certain points in the
career. It just it's about puttingyour team having the best opportunity to win.
Sure, do you want it tobe a perfect, you know,
priceless game like where the Dolphins scoresseventy points against the Broncos. Sure,

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every head coach wants that. Everyplayer wants to like just blow out another
team and go, wow, weare just firing on all cylinders. But
I mean there's something to be saidabout being battle tested and going in week
in and week out, going downat halftime and getting wins after being down
by ten points. That's huge againstteams that are pretty good too. This

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isn't like oh, you know,it is the Panthers, and we just
blew him out and they just ranout of steam. Like we're talking about
you know, can't say Chiefs.We're talking about the Buffalo Bills. Teams
that people say we're gonna be inthe Super Bowl. Where are the Bills
now? I don't know, butthey do have talent on the team,
and Josh Allen was having one ofhis better days in the second half.

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The defense, I mean, theirdefensive lineman all got hurt in this game
as well. You have to thinkabout what the Eagles. You know,
we got multiple guys. I thinkBrandon Graham was playing defensive tackle by the
end of the game. That wasnot a good place for him to be.
So hopefully they're able to get healthyout there. I think that's also
a reason why they're not blowing teamsout. Jalen Hurts was not very healthy

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in this game. You could tell. You watch him try to run,
You're just like, oh god,he looks he looks like he is in
absolute pain. Every time he decidedhe was going to try to accelerate and
advance the ball. So I don'tknow what happened at halftime, and they
gave him a little something to helpwith the pain, but especially early on,
it looked like he was not ready, and that was you know,

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it made it harder for them todo anything because basically they they covered up
everything up top and they were tryingto force them to throw underneath, and
they were trying to force him tomove with his legs, and he couldn't
move with his legs very well.And I think that was reason the offense
struggled as well, because the Billsjust basically were giving it to him.
They were giving it to like inthe small little routes, and it's just

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it's a you know, wet servicepouring down rain. It's it's a hard
day of football out there. Whenyou're only moving the ball two yards at
a time. It's you know,people are slipping around. It's harder for
you to cut and make a bigplay out of the backfield because you were
kind of on skates at times.So yeah, it's ugly win, but

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they get a win. They comeback behind. It's all important. I
mean, Eagles aren't gonna be onethat we talked about all the time.
The Eagles are going to be thereat the end. It's a gonna come
down to. I mean, it'sit's coming down the seating. That's what's
coming down to. Between the fortynine ers, Eagles and Cowboys. That's
what honestly feels like we all knowit. Everything else in the NFC unless

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the Lions step up, which looksdubious at times and upsets somebody, it's
gonna be whoever gets the one seedis gonna play the you know, the
other two's winner. So Eagles arekind of in line to do that right
now unless something happens. They gottalose a game. The Cowboys gotta beat
them, so and all. Whilethat's happening, you know, the forty

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nine Ers could creep in there too, you never know. Still a lot
of football that we played, though. It's it's great because as much as
you know the NFC, besides thosekind of top three four teams, it's
just trash the AFC. It justfeels like right now, the top there
is no top quality right now.It just feels like there's a lot of

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guys that are are kind of inthe tier below the top three of the
NFC, but that is way farbeyond better. Like it's basically like you
have a bunch of teams that areare better than the Detroit Lions in the
AFC, and it feels like allof them are going to be in the
playoffs together, and it's hard toreally figure out who's better than the Cowboys

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Eagles for forty nine ers, it'slike a different league almost. It feels
like an alvers NL battle at timesin baseball, where it's just it seems
like it's just different. It's not. It's hard to compare because it's just
such a different makeup of each conferenceright now. But it's fun to see,
it's fun to watch, and it'llbe good football come playoff time.

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Absolutely going to one of the teamsthat I think is one of the favorites
in the AFC outside of the Jaguarsand Chiefs that we talked about. The
Ravens are able to beat the Chargerson Sunday Night Football twenty to ten.
This is a big game for JayFlowers, the rookie receiver had two touchdowns.
Coincidentally scored two touchdowns while he's playingagainst the team who took a receiver

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one spot ahead of him, andthat was Quentin Johnston, who has not
been very productive for the Chargers.So maybe some motivation there as a lot
of people, including myself, hadmocked to say flowers to the Chargers because
that extra speed could have helped.It's a little bit of revenge for him
there. The Ravens go to nineand three for the Chargers four and seven.
It's if the season isn't over yet, it's getting there for sure really

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quickly. Brandon Staley is the reportsare he's going to be fired almost no
matter what happens here. But itjust hasn't been a good situation. That's
something we have talked about for acouple of weeks now. So yeah,
I mean for them to be fourand sevens, I mean, it's inexcusable
for the roster they have. We'retalking about a team that, you know,

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last couple of years we kind ofbeen like, man, they will
be a dominant team. They couldwin the AFC West every year if the
Chiefs didn't exist. You know,obviously the Chiefs do and there's usually gonna
be at least one other competitive teamin your division. But that's how we
talk about the Chargers, right,We talked about this team like, my
gosh, they could be so good. You know, they're always kind of

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this weird dark horse super Bowl pickearly in the offseason where everyone's like,
they got Justin Herbert, They've gota good offense, so it's just hard
to see how far they fall.Leo's disappoint as well and how far.
But the Ravens Keaton Mitchell is nowkind of the lead back. It feels
like they didn't use Gus Edward asmuch. Justin Hill barely got used.

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And yeah, I mean they've movedand were aggressive fast. But then after
that the Chargers really took off,all right, the Ravens did. Yeah,
I'm glad to see. Leo wasvery passionate about this game. It
was something that I mean, theRavens are really showing their dominance right now,
and you know the only thing they'restruggling with is Justin Tucker missed another
field goal, So that's something theygot to correct. As someone who bets

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the over three and a half fieldgoals on primetime games, that's something you
don't like to see. So nextone up, Seats, we'll go to
Monday Night Football with the Bears andVikings. It was an awful game.
The over three and a half fieldgoals did hit, which is if you
see teams that you don't really likeon Sunday or Monday night football, that's
when you do that. Bet theywin twelve to ten, Bears do.
It was a game that the offensefor the Bears was just throwing a bunch

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of screens, and it honestly gotso repetitive that I was literally laughing at
the screen. And for the Vikings, Josh Dobbs had a very rough game.
Now they're reevaluating the quarterback position,which seems crazy based on how he
started his time with the Vikings andhow he played with the Cardinals this year
too, So they're I mean,the Vikings are six and six, they
have a chance to make the playoffs. The Bears, I think you feel

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good. I mean, I don'treally get what the play calling was,
but Justin Field's got the win.The defense looks better with montes Wett.
You know, at that rate,maybe you get some draft picks this offseason.
You really do turn it around nextyear, maybe in a way we
thought they would this year. Yeah, you get to bury your offense just
a little bit. Like the screenpass the DJ Moore happened literally twenty times,
I swear, and it's just likeyou could throw it downfield to them,

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you know, like the stats wherethey had more passing yards from behind,
it like their official passing yards wasless than how many passing yards they
really had because they ran so manydamn screens. It was like like ten
yards. And I'm like that's notgood. That means very poor offensive play
calling. Yet again, justin Fieldsused his speed when he needed to,

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they could be And the big thingwas they converted on a lot of third
downs and they got into field goalrange and they kept capitalizing. It is
concerning no offensive touchdowns for the Bearno touchdowns at all for the Bears at
all, and they managed to winthis game. But you know, you
do that. The Vikings scored onetouchdown and they're right back in this game
up until the end. So JoshDobs did not look good. It really

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was that simple. He was nothitting much of anything in this game,
you know, and he really wasn'tused his legs the way he usually does.
I mean, he just I don'tknow. It was just there were
guys around him at all times.But it just seemed like once that happened,
it was just a like broken Itwas just like broken play after broken

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play after broken play at that point, and they just the magic of Josh
Dobbs did not translate in this gamewhere he just makes things happen out of
nowhere with his legs. The Bearswere ready for it, and I'll give
it their defense that Eberflus did agood job of scheming to prevent all of
that. And yeah, I meanthe Bears could be very good in the

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year. Rosehawn Johnson looked really goodat running back too. They were just
pounding the rock over and over withhim. I think he might be you
know, they're starting running back inthe future, and I think that's fine.
There are pieces on this Bears team. We'll see if they can sign
Sweat to a long term deal becauseI think that helped their defense a lot
too. It's gonna be really stupidif they don't. And then I will

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say Ryan Poles is an idiot onceagain. But other than that, I
mean, like you said, lotsof draft capital. I don't think this
is a Justin Fields problem. Honestly, I look at it. You know,
people want to go maybe go withanother quarterback. I'm like, all
Justin Fields is doing is making thebest of whatever the hell of these play
calls on because they are fat attimes. I mean, you throw fifty

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thirty screen passes, how is thatjustin Field's fall? Like you can't be
like, oh yeah, justin Fieldsucks. It's like it's a designed screenplay.
Is he just? I mean,I guess he could check out of
it, but you know, peopledon't want don't think he's ready for that,
And I agree, like, youknow, he's a young quarterback who
should get a little help. Soyou know, really the Bears should stick

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to Justin Fields, get another goodreceiver, get some offensive linemen, and
I think this team could be successfulvery soon because you know, like you
said, you know sometimes he justif you find a quarterback and you hit
on the quarterback the first time andthen you have another bad year right after
that, you can be golden becauseyou can trade because other teams want a

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quarterback. So if you hit onthe quarterback early, you can get some
high draft picks and get a livedraft capital really quickly. So I mean,
at least the Bears are doing thatright. It's just now up to
Ryan Poles to make sure he hitson all these picks. That'll be the
key thing for them and I'm withyou, Justin Fields probably is not the
issue. He definitely thinks he needsto clean up. But when you have

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an offensive coordinator who throws these manyscreens, or an offense coordinator who says
we're not going to change the gameplan based on who the quarterback is when
you really should be utilizing their talents, that might change some things for you.
So yeah, not probably Justin Field'sfault. See let's move on to
our picks for the week. Thisis week thirteen. We have six teams
on buy, so that might meansome tricky situations or for fantasy managers.

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But let's start off with the Thursdaynight football game and is one of the
better ones of the entire season.It is the Seattle Seahawks at the Dallas
Cowboys. Cowboys favored by nine.Give me the Cowboys the winning cover.
It's in Jerry World. Cowboys havebeen playing really well at home this year.
I think that's a huge advantage,especially on a short week. They're
rolling. You know, it's Idon't really have a problem with the line

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at all. I think you know, honestly, if it was ten points,
I'd still take this line. Butnine is right in that sweet spot.
I mean three field goals or youknow, someone misses an extra point.
It gives you a cushion. BecauseI was thinking around ten for this
game. I think some people,you know the line. The reason it's
not higher is just Vegas is worriedabout a short week. But the Seahawks
the last couple of weeks have notbeen competitive with teams that are, you

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know, top tier. They're kindof getting beat up by them. I
don't think kennth Walker is supposed toplay at this point either. There's been
you know, he's been questionable.I don't think it's trending very well,
especially on a short week. Evenif he does play, I don't think
it really changes that much of theoutcome here. So I mean I would
take that in hand, really,you know much. You take a good

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offensive port performance from the Cowboys andthis one, you know, don't bet
the house. Don't go for somecrazy yardage totals. But there's one thing
I think will happen. If youwant to see a Seahawks have a decent
game, I think a lot ofit's gonna have to do with They're gonna
have to get DK Metcalf involved.He's gonna have to have a good game
for that to happen. I thinkwithout him, I think the secondary of

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the Cowboys can be vulnerable as muchas Ed darn Blant, you know,
having these pick sixes and things likethat. You know, they they do
give up some chunk plays at time. They can do that, you know
a lot of times they don't.It is because the pass rush makes up
for them. So you get DKMetcalf back there, I can buy enough
time before the defense gets home toyou know, Gino Smith. I think

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he can have a decent game aswell. So if you're looking at some
stuff, you know, betting wise, I'd maybe look at DK Metcalf of
anybody out there, and then Jashand Smith's and Jigba is always a great
play for some yardage totals. Absolutely, I'm going Cowboys to win, but
the Seahawks with the points. Now, it is a Thursday game, but
it's not a traditional Thursday game.Both these teams have a full week to

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prepare. They both played on Thanksgiving. But I just I worry too much
about these bigger spreads when you areplaying another solid team. Who for the
Seahawks I thinks is almost a mustwin in certain senses. You know,
if you lose this game, yougo to six and six, Yes,
you go to a buye, butthen you play right after the bye,
you play the forty nine Ers andthe Eagles. You don't want to be

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six and eight and have to playyour himself back into the playoffs. If
you win this game, you know, go to seven to five. Make
you give yourself some cushion. Ithink that really matters. And for the
Cowboys, you know, again,I still think they win the game.
But I just think the motivation forthe Seahawks at least to keep it closest
there, and Genus Smith's injury didn'tseem to be that big of a deal.
So we'll go to Seahawks with thepoints. Cowboys to win the game.
Sunday afternoons, he's the Chargers atthe Patriots, the Chargers of everybody

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six on the road. Yeah,I'm gonna go the Chargers to win and
to winn and cover. As muchas I think the Chargers suck, it's
not because of their talent. Theycan win a game, and they could
win it pretty easily honestly at times, like there have been times a season
where they've looked good I think itgives Justin Herbert time to heal his hand.

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Is now I'm throwing hand a littlebit more too. I just don't
have any belief in Bill Belichick andthe Patriots right now, even though it's
at home and probably gonna be aice cold day in Foxborough. But give
me the Chargers to winning cover.Yeah, I'm going Chargers to win and
cover two again. Desperate team.They're gonna want to make sure they win
this game to stay playoff contention.And Brandon Saley especially maybe the same his

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job that this is one you haveto have. And the Patriots just don't
have an offense, so they're notto be able to keep up Chargers winning
cover. We'll move on to thenext one season, the Colts at the
Titans. Right now, the Coltsare here by one on the road.
Give me the Colts to a winningcover. I think they've just been rolling
right now. I think they've gotthey figured out their identity on offense,

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which is big with Jonathan Taylor andZach Moss both doing pretty well the last
game and Jonathan Taylor from doing wellthe last couple. I think the defense
is getting home against a lot ofteams and it's a very suspect offensive line
for the Titans, so I couldsee that causes the problems for Will Levits
and Derek Henry in the backfield.And they are also opportunistick and make some
points off turnovers. Well, sogive me the colst to Winny cover.

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I think the Titans outright with thepoints. You know, I think this
is a coin flip game. Ithink I would go with the team who's
playing at home. The Colts maybe a little bit better, but they
also I think I've had some someissues that are underlying there, Like Gardner
Minshew only has eight touchdowns to seveninterceptions. Shack Leonard was waived. You
know, their wide receiver cord isn'tthe best. Really, it's for me,

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whoever scores first in this game reallyhas a better chance of winning it.
You have Derek Henry versus Jonathan Taylor. The team who scores versus is
going to try to run the balland try to close out the clock.
I think the Titans at home couldbe the pick. Next up, we
have the Miami Dolphins at the WashingtonCommanders. This one is a larger spread.
The Dolphins are favored by nine anda half. Yeah, give me

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that all day. I think Commandersare pretty much gonna be close to quit
mode here soon. I think that. I think the Dolphins are just gonna
be too much. Their team thatbeat up on bad teams, They're not
going up against a great defense.And I think their defense is really getting
home and be doing a lot betteras well, especially since Jamn Ramsey's come

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back. So I think that'll limitSam Howe on the Commander's offense a bit
as well. So give me Miamito winning cover same thing here, much
better team Commanders with the tanking stuff, it's just not much of a shot
there. Samehow might have a couplegood throwers and everything that's gonna be about
it. Dolphin's going to cover thatone. We have the Lions at the

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Saints in the next game. TheLions are favored by four on the road.
The Lions still winning cover. TheSaints offense has been too middling for
me, and their defense really hasn'tbeen doing much recently either. Know,
it's in New Orleans, so that'salways a good home field advantage, but
four points I think I'm more incomfortable with. I think Dan Campbell and

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company can win then covered Yeah,until the Saints really prove anything, I'm
going to go Lions to win andcover this one. It's you know,
Saints have talent on the defense,they just can't get that offense going.
And I know the Lions will haveJared got protected in this one and he'll
be able to play on rhythm andon time, and that's something that's really
important to him, so he doesn'tdo the Jared Goose stuff. So we're
gonna take the lines to win andcover. The Arizona Cardinals at the Pittsburgh

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Steelers. The Steelers are favored byfive and a half at home. Give
me the Steelers to win. Obviously, I'll go with them to cover two
five and a half because it's undertwo field goals, which I think it's
going to be kind of a fieldgoal game probably, And I think the

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Cardinals are going to come from Arizona, you know, where it's nice and
a dome and nice weather and goto Pittsburgh and late season, and uh
yeah, defense is gonna play forPittsburgh, and I think their offense has
figured out enough to move the ballfor some field goals, maybe a touchdown,
and I think that'll be enough tocover same exact reasons. I think

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Matt Canada being fired has opened upthe offense a little bit and enough that
there they can score some points andthe defense can help them cover that five
and a half point spread. Wewill move on to the Atlanta Falcons at
the New York Jets. The Falconsare favored by three points. This is
a weird one. This is astay the hell away from game. I

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will I will pick the Falcons towin it, but I will take the
Jets with the points just because it'sa home game, their defense is good,
and yeah, it's just you know, you got a Falcons team that's
coming off a big win for them. They're gonna have to travel to the
Meadowlands. It's you know again,these you know, dome teams or teams

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in nice climates that then go travel, you know, and have to play
somewhere like the Metal Ends. Imean, I think they should win this
game, but I'm definitely gonna hedgethe bet, and you know, I'd
probably do this. I think thisis a field goal game, honestly,
So you know, if I'm abetting man, I take three and a
half. I take four points justto be safe, and I'd pick the

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Jets for sure. Yeah. WithTim Boyle quarterback, don't really see the
Jets too much. I'm taking theFalcons to win a cover. But you're
right, this is one if youdo like the Falcons, move the line
down to two and a half,because we know what's gonna happen. If
the line is exactly three, theFalcons are gonna win by three, and
that's gonna have. That's how it'sgonna be. So Falcons to win and
cover for me. Move on tothe Denver Broncos at the Houston Texans.

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The Texans are favored by three anda half in this one. Seas Yeah,
I take the Texans, especially withthe Broncos not at home. They
don't do as well there. Ithink the Texans have been on a role
obviously the last you know in Jacksonvilleto Jacksonville this last week. But Barrett
competitive spot. They know every wincounts. It's a competitive AFC. They
don't want to give up any ground. With a couple of weeks still left,

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I think CJ. Stroud and companyhave a good game. I'm interested
to see how both the offense ofthe Texans and the Broncos defense outside of
Mile High does against a team likethis to really see how good that would
much. They've really improved because alot of it's been against dubious offenses and
it's been in Mile High, whichis a huge advantage for them. So

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I think the Texans winning cover thisone. I think they should win it
pretty handedly, comfortably by a touchdown. I'm going Broncos with the upset here.
I'm going to ride high on thisBroncos wave they have going. Texans
are a solid team being at homethere four and two on the year,
and I think they're they're they're solid, but Broncos doing playing pretty well.

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Russell Wilson's playing smart football that matters, and that defense has really been better.
I think the Texans are still inconsistentas a team. You know,
a couple of weeks ago they lostto the Panthers and that thing. Those
type of things happen when you haverookie quarterback in the first year head coach.
I'm gonna go take the Broncos andif you're gonna give me three and
a half points, I'll take thoseas well. Next one up, we

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have the Panthers and the Bucks.The Buccaneers will be hosting and they are
favored by five and a half points. Give me, give me the Bucks,
you know, give me the Bucksa winning cover. I think the
Panthers are just in disarray right now. They fired Frank Reich, and again
it wasn't really Frank Wright's fault.So yeah, give me the Buccaneers.

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And well, Baker kind of limited. You know. Again, it's the
sling it up in the air andpush the ball down field offense for Baker
Mayfield. They're able to get enoughto to win and cover the spread because
there's just no offense for the Panthers. Yeah, it's gonna be tough to
put a game plan together. Theyfired Frank Reich, they got rid of
the offense coordinator, Josh McCown.They got rid of Do Staley, the

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assistant head coach. You know alot of times when the coaches get fired
and kind of like take them inthese games because there's like more motivation and
there's like more of I guess,a lift in the players. But they
the coach that they wanted fire tobe fired got fired. But Frank Reik
wasn't in that category of like it'sgonna fire. His firing is gonna really
motivate them, I don't think,and they just have. I don't know
who's gonna be calling the game.I don't know who's gonna have the game

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play. It's a whole mess.I'm going with the Buccaneers to win and
cover for sure. San Francisco fortynine Ers at the Philadelphia Eagles. This
is what we talked about earlier asone of the best matchups of the season.
The forty nine Ers are favored bythree points. Yeah. I like
the forty nine Ers in this one. I think they're a team that's been

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winning in convincing fashion. I thinkthey've definitely been thinking about this game at
times after what happened last year inthe NFC Championship game, and it was
kind of incomplete because brock Perty gothurt after every other quarterback also got hurt
on the roster. So I'm gonnapick the forty nine ers to win and
I think they will cover. Itshould still be a good game. But

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you know, it's just too smalla cover to really pick the Eagles for
three points. So forty Iers towin and cover in this one. Yeah.
Just the Eagles poor play, turnoverprone. It's just gonna catch up
to him at some point. Itdoesn't mean I don't think they can't correct
those issues and get it right beforethe postseason. They obviously did it last
year. They ended the season prettypoorly. But the fort Niners winning covered.
As you said, since the bye, they're great. Trent Williams being

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healthy is important, so low tospread. I would take fort Niners to
win and cover. We have upnext, the Cleveland Browns at the Los
Angeles Rams. The Rams are favoredby four points. Give me, you
know what, I'll I will takethe Rams to win, but I'll take

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the Browns to cover. Newil MilesGarrett banged up. I don't know is
he supposed to be out or ishe playing or I haven't seen the airport
yet. I haven't seen anything either, So I will go with the Rams.
I think they're jack on a highteam, which worries me as well.
But there's gonna be a lot ofBrowns fans because that that fan base.

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Anybody that's in the West Coast isgoing to go to that game because
it's the Browns and their fans areloyal. Give them that, but yeah,
give me the Browns with the Iwill take the Rams to win.
This one, but I will givetake the points in the Browns because I
think it's gonna be really close.I'll take the Rams to win and cover.
Just the offense being so bad isa huge factor in that. And

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the Rams seven kind Williams back beingable to run the ball I think is
huge two and being at home aswell, I think they can win a
cover. It's a game that Iwould probably stay away from gambling wise.
I could see the Rams not showingup like they have for other games,
or the Browns defense just totally takingover. All right, we can move
on to Sunday night football. Wehave the Kansas City Chiefs at the Green
Bay Packers. The Chiefs are favoredby six points. Yeah, I'll take

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that all day. I think whathappened with green Bay the last couple of
weeks is they've beaten some teams thatkind of beat themselves at times. It
feels like as well, I thinkthat Jordan Love is going to show a
lot more against his Kansas City defensethat then he's been struggling against these last
couple of teams who have kind ofjust let them get away with big plays,

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and the Chiefs aren't really prone todo that right now. This defense
is good and I think Patrick Mahomesand company will be able to do enough.
And Pat Mahomes wants to dross off, you know, getting a big
win in Green Bay off his listbecause it's the first time he ever played
Lambo. So I like the Chiefsto win and cover in this one.
Yeah, Mark has not az scantlingrevenge game here. I think the Chiefs

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are able to win and cover.I think he has a big, big
catching this one, as he hassome drop issues in his history that happened
this year for the Chiefs and alsofor the Packers in former years. But
I know, I think I thinkthe Chiefs did start to get things right.
Playing the Raiders and Packers back toback will help with that. Might
be a little bit colder for whatthey're used to, but hey, Kansas
City isn't two warm ethers, soI to'll be able to win and cover

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all right. Monday Night Football SeasBank and Jaguars. Jaguars are favored by
eight points and I don't have muchof it for this game, how about
you. I don't injuries suck.That's that's really the throw point here.
I mean, I'm sure ESPN isnot very happy with the outcome here.
They wanted. I mean, thisis what everybody wanted. Everybody wanted Joe

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Burrow, treyor Lawrence Showdown. Idon't know who I would have picked otherwise
in this game if Joe Burrow wasplaying, But it doesn't matter anyway.
So Jaguars are winning cover. They'rethey're a good team that's kind of surging
at the right time. I didn'treally see anything from the Bengals offense to

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really say that they're going to scorepoints or keep up in this one.
So you should be able to pickthe Jaguars and sleep soundly on Monday night.
Yeah, I'm thinking Jaguars winning covertwo. Just more complete team right
now. And I just I can'tsee the bend not breaking defense working when
you don't have a quarterback like JoeBurr under center. I can't see the

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offense putting up many points in thisone. We'll take the Jaguars to win
to cover, which is a prettydepressing way to end our picks for the
week. But see any final thoughts. Yeah, I mean, let's go
for playoffs. It's fantasy playoffs arehere almost, so your boys hoping for
a win and for all of hisleagues to really kind of cement his playoff

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birth. So it's a lot ofleagues and a lot rights on this week.
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