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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to the
Thriving Christian Artist, the
podcast, where we hope youconnect with God to bust through
the roadblocks that have heldyou back for years, create the
work you love and really livethe life you know.
God created you to live as anartist in His kingdom.
I'm Matt Tommey, your host.
Let's get started.
Well, hey there, my friend,it's Matt Tommy.
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Welcome again to the podcast.
Super glad that you are here.
Wherever you may be listeningfrom in the car or maybe even in
the studio.
Today, I love to do that whenI'm listening to podcasts, but
wherever you're at, I hopeyou're having a great day.
I want to dive into and maybethis is the first of several
episodes.
I'm thinking about this wholetopic of creating with God.
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Thinking about this whole topicof creating with God because
one of the things I've figuredout in my own life and in
mentoring artists for so manyyears is that we are really good
at complicating things.
Any professional overthinkersout there I see you, I see you,
I see those hands.
Yeah, I get it.
We can really take somethingthat is supposed to be easy and
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life-giving and really in theflow and make it something
that's complicated and make itsomething that is religious,
when I don't think God everintended for that to be that way
.
You know, when I take a lookback in Genesis and you see
God's original intention forwalking with humanity in the
cool of the day in the Garden ofEden, that for me evokes images
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of creativity, because that'show a lot of my pieces start is
walking in the woods, at leastin the, harvesting the materials
, ideas and gathering the thingsthat I'm going to put into my
work.
But I can just imagine learningto walk in the woods with the
Lord and hearing his voice,seeing him chuckle, seeing what
catches his eye and learning torespond to that.
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That, to me, is just abeautiful, beautiful way of
learning to create with him andlearning to walk with him in a
place of ease rather than in aplace of real pressure.
You know I talked about in mybook God's Plan for Living.
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When we're learning to hearGod's voice, we can often lean
to thoughts of penalty ratherthan perception.
In other words, we can oftenapproach hearing God's voice
with thoughts of I'm going toget it wrong.
What happens if I do it wrong?
What happens if I don't do whatGod said to do?
What happens if I don't do thething that God told me to do
creatively.
All this fear of penalty andgetting it wrong.
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I don't think that in any wayrepresents the heart of the Lord
, especially when it comes toour creative journey.
Lord, especially when it comesto our creative journey, he is
much more, I believe, convincedthat we are in the process with
him and walking along thisjourney with him and sharing our
thoughts and our heart andlearning to hear his voice and
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learning to feel and sense themovement of his spirit and
develop our perceptions, notonly spiritually but also
creatively as well, so that welearn to do this beautiful thing
that he's given us theopportunity to do as artists,
which is to release his lightand life, his transformative
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power, both in our life andthrough our life, both in our
work and through our work.
So so, the people who come incontact with us every day,
whether it be just with us as anartist going to Walmart or
going to the art store orsomebody that actually touches
our work and feels our work andencounters the thing that we do
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creatively, the whole point ofour life and the expression of
our life here on earth, is notfor us to try to be measuring up
to some sort of religiousstandard, but for us to be this
beautiful conduit of the gloryof God so that when people
encounter us, whether it'sthrough our art or not, they
know that they've been withJesus.
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I love that scripture.
I forget the chapter and verseright now that talks about you
know the disciples that you knowwe're walking along and people
said, hey, you know, these wereuneducated guys, right, but they
knew that they.
You could tell by by just beingaround them that they had been
with Jesus.
I want people, when they see mywork, when they come into my
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studio and they meet me at ashow and they put a piece of my
work in their home, I want themto know, hey, that guy may not
be the sharpest knife in thedrawer.
I'm not looking for for peopleto think I've got all these
degrees or whatever, that I'mall this fancy person.
I want them to know, wow, thisguy knows God.
This guy senses somethingdeeper.
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This guy creates with adifferent place of inspiration.
This guy is connected in adeeper way, not only to his
creativity but to his creator,in a way that releases
transformation in and throughhis work.
I think we all want that andthat, for me, is the reason why
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I'm an artist, and so I want togive you a few things today that
I think have helped me over theyears of just learning to take
this process of creating withGod with ease rather than taking
it with pressure.
You know, the first thing I wantto just kind of jump into is
this whole idea of what it meansto hear God in your creative
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process.
I think for a lot of people.
You know we all hear God indifferent ways.
God speaks, obviously, in ahuge amount of ways.
His audible voice is stillspeaking today.
He speaks through situations.
He speaks through people.
He obviously speaks through thevoice of the Holy Spirit
internally to us.
He obviously speaks through hisword.
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He speaks through the prophetic.
He speaks through things thatwe realize, maybe things that we
see over and over and overagain.
I believe he speaks to thethings that prick our heart when
you're looking at something andyou just notice it over and
over and over again.
Listen, if you're walking withthe Lord, you love him, your
life is committed to him.
You got to pay attention to thethings that are waking you up
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creatively.
Why?
Because that's how God leadsyou, I think, so many times
Christian artists separate theircreative process from their
normal life and normal hearingGod, because they're expecting
this whole like the, the studioyou know to open up and angels
to come down and there'd be agolden scroll of here is what
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you are to create today and we.
You may laugh at that and say,well, that's not what I do, but.
But maybe you are thinking thateverything that you feel like
God would say to you is going tocome in some overt sort of way,
and rarely has that everhappened for me in my creative
process.
Most of the time it's leaningin, listen to that unique design
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that God has given me, thatunique voice, that unique lens
of love, that unique lens that Isee the world through, that I
interpret my creativity through.
He speaks and wakes me up andenlivens me as I am doing the
thing that I'm created to do.
And over time I think, as youget used to saying, wow, this is
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not just me, this is how Godmade me, not just me, this is
how God made me.
And when I lean into the thingsthat I love, you know, for me
that's weaving and baskets andnests and pods and nature and
colors and all the differenttextures of the natural world.
When I do that and I partnerwith the unique design and the
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unique perspective that God hasgiven me, all of a sudden
there's a whoosh of the Spirit,not only in my creative practice
but also in the way that peoplesee and interact with my work.
The intention of our work, theinspiration of our work, can be
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felt.
You know that.
You've walked into placesbefore galleries or museums or
movies or concerts or whateverand even though the music may be
really great technically, youcan tell there is something icky
in here, there's just somethingweird going on.
You can feel that.
Likewise, you can also tellwhen you read a book or when you
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listen to music or when you seea piece of visual art or you go
to a play or whatever.
You can sense the life-giving,redemptive nature of God moving
in and through things.
And I think for us as creatives, there's no better way for us
to do that than to lean and leaninto the uniqueness of the
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things that we love in order toget better at translating those
through our creative process.
So you learn to recognize God'sguidance and ideas and themes
and the way you approachchallenges and the way you
approach subjects Not thatyou're just going for uniqueness
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, but obviously that developsuniqueness but you're trusting
this place of connection.
You're trusting this place thatthe things that I love, the
things that I'm drawn to, thethings that I love to make and
create and communicate, thoseare not just me, they're the way
that God has created me.
They're the unique package, ifyou will, that God put on board
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me and in me when he created me.
They're the unique package, ifyou will, that God put on board
me and in me when he created me.
And the more I do that, themore that the presence of God is
going to be communicated to meand through me.
Now, as you're doing that sortof as a normal, you know, kind
of part of your life, I thinkyou can also which I do on a
regular basis you can also havethose overt ways of inviting the
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Holy Spirit to be with you inthis creative process.
Now, a little theology, justfrom my perspective.
I'm not a big person, that youknow.
I don't practice this idea ofyou know.
Holy Spirit, come, holy Spirit,be in this place overtly,
because why?
I believe that the Holy Spiritis resident inside of me.
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Right, the Bible teaches thatthe kingdom is within us.
Right when Jesus went back toheaven to be with the Father,
sit at the right hand of theFather, he gave the Holy Spirit.
We are now the temple of theHoly Spirit, and so it's not
necessarily a matter of saying,come, holy Spirit, the Holy
Spirit.
We are now the temple of theHoly Spirit, and so it's not
necessarily a matter of saying,come, holy Spirit, the Holy
Spirit's already here.
What I want to do is ask theHoly Spirit.
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Holy Spirit, awaken inside ofme.
Holy Spirit, awaken my senses,my eyes and my ears, my hands,
my heart, everything, myperception, everything about me.
Holy Spirit, would you soenliven me that I can sense your
presence, sense your leadershipand flow with you.
Today, as I'm creating, as I'mdoing, whatever it is, whether
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I'm doing my bookkeeping as anartist, or whether I'm applying
for a show, or whether I'msketching in my sketchbook or
creating a new piece, I want tohear the voice of the Lord, I
want to be moved and led by himand just realize you don't have
to beg God to show up in thestudio.
If you love Jesus, if you'resaved, if you're walking with
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him.
He's living on the inside ofyou right now.
So the issue is not to beg himto come.
The issue is for you to wake upto what's already living inside
of you right now.
So the issue is not to beg himto come.
The issue is for you to wake upto what's already living inside
of you, which is the God of theuniverse and the power of his
kingdom.
All of that is resident andactive and ready for you to
cooperate with in your creativeprocess.
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And so part of that for me istaking time on a regular basis
to be still and to allow God toinspire my thoughts, to take off
on a little tangent if I needto, if I get a spark of an idea
and sketch it down, to write inmy journal, to take that time to
flip through a book or to lookon Pinterest for something that
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is inspiring to me or dig alittle bit deeper into an idea.
Why?
Because I'm trusting that thoselittle jaunts, those little
trails, if you will, are notjust ADD, as some people would
say.
Obviously, you can't be doingthat all day long, but I learned
to trust that when I'm in amoment and I'm feeling inspired
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or I'm feeling led to exploresomething, I take time to do it.
Why?
Because I trust that the stepsof the righteous are ordered by
the Lord, that the Holy Spiritis the one that's inside of me,
moving me and cooperating withthe unique design of me so that
all of him can flow through allof me.
And so inviting you know theHoly Spirit to be awakened and
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enlivened in you and to invitehim to to to move through all of
your senses.
That's a great thing to doevery day and I think you know,
for those of you that say, gosh,matt, this is like way off of
my radar.
You know, as far as um youradar, as far as my experience
with walking with the Lord Maybeyou come from a denomination or
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a part of the body of Christthat really doesn't talk about
hearing God's voice, doesn'treally talk about the intuitive
nature of walking with him,about the intuitive nature of
walking with him.
I hope this is encouraging foryou and I hope that this is not
overcomplicated for you.
But it's just like, as you'rereading God's Word and you sense
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the Holy Spirit speaking to you.
God wants to do the same thingas you're creating art.
He wants to do the same thingas you're sketching out ideas.
He wants to do the same thingas you're planning out your year
and and looking at yourbusiness and what are the things
you're going to, you're goingto do this year.
And you know, pursue this yearas you, as you grow your
business.
That's a normal part of walkingin the kingdom is being led by
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his voice, being nudged by hisspirit and learning to respond.
That's how the kingdom of Godworks, and so I just want you to
understand.
If this is not something that'snormal for you, try it, just
start the day with Lord.
I know you're here, I know youlove me, I know you've created
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me as an artist.
I know you're inside of me andyou want to move in and through
me.
Artist, I know you're inside ofme and you want to move in and
through me, not only so I gettransformed in your presence,
but so the work of my hands willbe transformative as well.
My friends, I think if you canbegin to come to your creative
process and your creativepractice with these sorts of
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intentions in your heart, youwill not only take your art
making to the next level, youwill deepen that place of
creating with the Lord in such apowerful, powerful way that's
not only going to transform you,it's going to transform
everybody that comes in tocontact with your work as well.
Now, obviously, this is a big,big subject.
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I'm going to leave it there fortoday and maybe pick this up in
some additional episodes as wecontinue to walk together here
on the podcast.
But whatever you're doing today, ask the Holy Spirit to be
awakened inside of you and learnto involve him with intention
in this creative process.
It will not only transform yourwork, it'll transform your life
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as well, and everything you dois you walk with the Lord.
Father, I pray right now that,as artists are in the studio
doing the thing that you'vecalled them to do, holy Spirit,
I pray that you would awakeninside of them and enliven all
of their senses right now, godafresh, that the eyes of their
heart would be able to see, theears of their heart would be
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able to hear God, all theirsenses would be enlivened with
your presence so that they know.
They know that they know thatyou are with them, that you are
in them, that you are throughthem, that you are for them,
that you desire to create withthem in the studio.
We thank you for that, lord, inJesus name, amen.
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Bye, hey.
Thanks so much for spending afew minutes with me today on the
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Bye-bye, thank you.