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March 26, 2021 59 mins
We’re joined by viral Starbucks Anti-Mask sensation AlisonWonderlandReturns. You may have seen her viral video mocking Starbucks’ ridiculous drive-thru mask policies. We talk about the anti-mask movement, and what it’s like being conservative and working in Hollywood.
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episode with Alison Wonderland returns. Yeah, you know it's kind of weird.

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You say, like, oh,you don't really hear about conservatives being kicked
off of social media platforms anymore.That's like, yeah, because they went
and built their own like they allhave gone to their own places or their
own things where they don't have toworry about it anymore. And that's not
really like, that's not really fixingthe problem, do you know what I
mean? No, it's not.Have you run into any pushback since your

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whole thing with us, So you'vebeen making the rounds right like you've done.
I feel like probably every conservative podcastor show that's out there since your
video went viral. Yes, I'vedone quite a few. It's been very
surreal time, honestly, because I'vebeen doing these videos for a long time,
and I've been trying to expose wouldbs for the better part of a

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year. And coincidentally, this videothat I posted at Starbucks happened to go
a viral, Like I had beencanceled a few weeks before, so my
whole account was just gone. Andthen I remember that I remember you saying
that your whole previous Instagram before thathad happened, had been taken down.
Yeah, and I had, likeI was on there for probably close to

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it ten years, was like yearsworth of stuff on there, and it
was just gone one day, Andso I was hesitant whether or not even
get back on Instagram, So Idon't want to support that commie bullshit.
So I was off it for awhile and then I was like, well,
you know what, I feel likethe ultimate form of rebellion is to
just make another one and to tryto get back out there. So that's
what I did, and the videotook off, and yeah, I mean

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it's just been a crazy journey.Like now it's being so much attention,
and it's great because I think it'sactually, you know, showing people how
stupid this is. Yeah, yourvideo painted the picture and your reactions in
it were so perfect because the personthat's on the other side of the window
is not really seeing your reactions tocamera, but your face tells the story

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so perfectly of like how absurd itall is. And as a viewer you're
watching it, you're just going like, yeah, this is fucking ridiculous.
Like the idea of the line inthere that killed me was when you go
so you can hand me a mask, but you can't hand me a coffee.
And I literally pictured the girl's headexploding at the window. Yeah,
the Briece that had no idea whatto make of that. It was just

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like you know, a programmed robotthat did not know how to compute after
the you know, voice of reasonthere. So well, it's so much
of this too. I feel likepeople are just not used to anybody pushing
back, like and that's really Ifeel like how we ended up in this
place is because nobody pushed back.I mean the idea that you know,

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we talked about this a little bit, chatting back and forth, getting you
know, getting you scheduled for theshow. But like, there are so
many instances where I'm just like,yeah, just don't like with restaurants closing,
It's like they do that. Yourgovernment has no legal grounds to just
tell you you cannot be open forbusiness, right and they're not putting a
moratorium on your mortgage for your businessor your rent. They're not. They're

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not putting up some sort of likesocialist protection with your restaurant suppliers, like
most restaurants. You know. Iused to us to show for Food Network,
and so that's always good. Whenyou exit your own broadcast, I

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might hit my mouse, and mymouse like went back on my web browser,
which just took me out of theshow. But I was saying,
like most of my friends that ownrestaurants. Are in the restaurant business,
they have like enough money to buytheir product for another month and keep your
business open, and so like shuttingthem down for a month basically meant they
were shut down forever. And youknow, the government's not providing any sort

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of protections against that. You know, I live in southern California as well,
and the harsh reality that we're goingto face in you know, let's
call it three or four months whenthey're sort of like done with all of
the government subsidies is that everyone's justwho hasn't been able to pay their rent
is just going to get evicted,and the housing crisis in this state is
going to get insane. But youknow, it's all happening because nobody's pushing

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back, and I feel like evensomething is sort of maybe at the time
you felt small or arbitrary, goingyeah, I'm just not going to wear
a mask in the fucking drive through, you know, turns into this huge
symbol of protests because nobody's doing itexactly. And that is the thing,
is that no one is doing it. Why is it that every time I

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go anywhere, I'm the only personnot wearing the damn mask. It's mind
blowing to me that no one elseis standing upfort I think people really are
under the impression that, oh,if we just comply the sooner, we
can get back to normal. Youknow, but where does that end?
Like NeXT's going to be the vaccineand we're already seeing that. So yeah,

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people need to stop complying. You'llneed to stop just mindlessly putting it
on every time they leave the house. There's nothing normal about that. And
if I can do it, I'mpretty sure anyone can't. Like grown men
are walking around muzzled up and likescared to confront a worker at a grocery

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store, like fucking row there.It's not that difficult. Yeah. Well,
and also it's like if we livein a world where people are just
getting escorted out of places because theydon't want to wear masks, it's like,
you know, I think some peoplehave to take a step back and
look around and be like, isthis what we're supposed to be as a
country, because I don't believe it'swhat we set out to do right,

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right, to be this sort ofnation of like you have to conform or
else we're going to put you inthe gulag. I know, I don't
think that people understand the severity ofwhat's going on, or maybe they're just
not even aware of what's going on, But I mean, yeah, it's
a serious problem. There's people literallygetting arrested daily for just trying to breathe

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fresh air, and I don't knowhow that's justifiable to anyone without Yeah,
well, the one that scares metoo is like you look at guys like
the guys at Attillis right at thegym and Jersey, Like those guys have
been put on no fly list andban from airlines, you know, for
refusing to wear masks. And youknow, nowhere in the process of large

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corporations or airlines doing that with people, are they even reviewing whether or not
they're hip a compliance. So like, these people could actually have legitimate medical
reasons why they can't or won't wearmasks, and they're just sort of arbitrarily
handing down those rulings, you know, to force aliance. That's really what
they're doing. They're trying to scareeverybody into you know, complying or suffering

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horrible force consequences. And I've alwayssaid, like, you know, I
love when people say this about freedomof speech. A freedom of speech doesn't
mean freedom from consequences. But it'slike, yeah, but if the entire
world around you is conspiring to createconsequences around your exercise freedoms that are granted
to you in the Constitution, thenare they really freedoms there? I mean,

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I would say that they're not.So it's sort of like if you're
telling me, well, you cansay whatever you want, but they'll be
consequences. Well, I'm sorry,but that's not free speech exactly exactly.
And I think that that's why it'sso important that we all kind of,
you know, start getting this movementgoing and really sticking with it. I

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think a lot of people just kindof give up on it or they don't
like understand the power behind it.But I really think that there is strength
in numbers, and I think ifthere are really as many of us that
I know are out there that cametogether, it would be a much more
impactful movement. What are they goingto do if there are millions of us

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all taking a stand, they won'thave any like the sand Off. So
yeah, So Alison, tell mea little bit about you. I mean,
obviously you work in the entertainment industrysort of right, And you know,
how long have you been out hereand are you starting to see some
of this stuff in the workplace atall in terms of like you know,

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mandates or or forced behaviors or thingslike that. Yes. So I've a
magive artist for a living. Ido a lot of freelance work and well
set work, and I work withTV and film, and I mean it's
just crazy now what you have todo to simply go onto a set.
It depends on you know, whoyou're working for, of course, but

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certain certain production companies are more strictthan others, and some of them require
you to get tested daily for COVIDand you're not allowed on this set if
you refuse the test, and thenof course you have to wear the mask
at all times. But I justfind it so hilarious that everyone has to
go through all of this, andthen you have your actors who are there,

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who are who all abide by everyrule that they're given by the government.
Yet when it's time for them togo act, well, then COVID
just doesn't exist. I know,Like, yeah, we have to rehearse
with a face shield, but assoon as we're rolling we can take them
off. It's like God, itknows to not get you. Then yeah,
yeah, the virus knows when thered light is on and we're actually

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rolling, so the virus, youknow, the virus is very intrusive,
but it doesn't like to waste film, correct. So I mean it is
just another prime scenario of the hippothemythat goes on with these people. And
I just am laughing the whole timebecause I'm like, you know, applying

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their makeup. So you would thinkthat, you know, if you're so
worried about it, why can't Iyou know, once you want to bring
your own makeup or you know,get new brushes or something. But they're
okay with me using all of mystuff. But it's just, you know,
it's it's ridiculous. And then Ialso have personal clients who another great

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example is they are you know,I'll come into their house, do their
makeup. They're ready to go,they want to document the moment, they
want to get a little sealthy withme. But before they can take the
picture, they ask me to puton a mask. Right. Well,
if they're taking pictures with you withouta mask, they'll get a call from
their publicist or their agent. Whatare you doing? But it's just like,

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when are we going to stop playingthis game? Are these people really
that absent minded that they believe thatthey're just exempt when it's convenient for them,
or or are they just playing along? And if that's the case,
then how long are you going todo this? And why are you okay
doing that? I mean, it'sjust it's it's totally wrong and it's just

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utterly retarded. Yeah, that's theperfect word for it. I'm glad you
said it. I was thinking it. I was thinking retarded and uh and
you said it. So I'm glad. I'm a lot. Yeah, believe
me, I'm not the guy who'sever going to get offended at words.
Um. And also, sometimes thingsare just retarded. I'm sure you know
who would probably agree with that.Retarded people. I think they would most

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likely it goes Yeah, sometimes thingsare I am often quite retarded. Um,
I'll tell this story. Since we'reon the subject, I'll tell this
story. I told this story once, UM on in like a filming for
do you remember Nicky Glazer had aTV show called not Safe and it was
like basically not safe for work typeof late night talk show and it was

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about like sex and stuff. Shedid it on Comedy Central for a couple
of seasons. But I was afor many years. I was an uber
driver in LA and that's how Imade money in addition to doing comedy and
stuff, like before I had myTV show, and during when I had
my TV show as well, Iwas still doing it. But she had
a segment she was trying to doon her show that was like, you

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know, she brought on comedians thathad done like uber lyft and wanted them
to tell funny stories. And Itold her about the night I took a
retarded guy to a prostitute. AndI didn't know like right away that he
was retarded. He had down syndrome, and I didn't know right away where
we were going, but I definitelyknew as soon as he got in the
car and he started like giving medirections. I was like, Okay,

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this guy's definitely compromised. I didn'tknow to what extent because it was late
and it was dark. This isprobably like three to thirty in the morning,
four in the morning on a weeknight, and so I'm thinking, okay,
like this, who knows what's goingon? Like I was like,
shouldn't this guy have a handler orsomething? And you know, because I
don't know how I don't know thelaw to know how it works. And

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so he's in the car and he'slike, listen, and we're gonna go
to like this is going back toprobably twenty thirteen or fourteen. This was
before you could put in different stopson your uber route, like this is
like he was directed. So hegot in. He's like, first,
you're gonna go to this gas stationwhere they have an ATM where I can
get some cash out, and thenwhere you're gonna take me to this apartment

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building. And I was like okay, And then I see he's like at
a place that's got an ATM outside, so I see how much money he's
withdrawing, and I'm going like,oh my god, this is a lot
of money. And now I'm concernedthat this young, retarded gentleman is like
getting robbed. And I'm like,in the nicest way possible, where I'm
like now taking him to get hismoney and take it back to a robber.

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So he gets back in the carand I go, I go,
hey, man, that like that'sa lot of money. Are you okay,
like you are you in trouble orsomething? Do you need any help
with anything? And he's like he'slike, oh no, I'm going to
see my girlfriend. And I go, I'm like, you're a girlfriend.
He's like, oh, yes,she's one of my favorite girls. I
see her a few times a week. And I was like, uh,

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okay, and he's like full onyou know, like Jimmy Volmer voice right
from South Park. Yes, andhe's like, yeah, see, she's
like she's my favorite girl. AndI was like, oh cool. So,
like, dude has a girlfriend anduh and he's like yeah, and
he goes and I was like,oh, the is the money for her?
And he's like, yes, it'sfor her. I pay her And
I go, oh okay cool,and he's like if He's like He's like,

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I mean, obviously I know she'sa prostitute, but I look at
it this way. He's like,I I think I could take a girl
out to dinner and spend two orthree hundred dollars and maybe get laid.
Or I could go see my favoritegirlfriend and give her four hundred dollars and
definitely definitely get laid. And I'msitting there things so I didn't say this

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to the kid. I'm like,oh, and literally we pull up and
it's like full like Russian prostitute pinkugs, sweatpants, like sitting on the
porch, like and there's clearly likethey're not outside, but you could definitely
tell there's probably like dudes with gunsright inside the inside door, right like
this is clearly a house of fuck. That is. Like, so I'm
like in the underground and I'm takingthis retarded kid to a prostitute. And

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uh, but he says that,and under my breath, I'm just thinking
to myself, Man, don't letanybody call you retarded. Man, that's
pretty sound logic. And so likeI told that story on Nikki for a
segment that NICKI ended up not runningon that show, but I remember like
we could hear the people we hadearpieces in, and I could hear the
guys in the van behind us fuckingdying and um, and yeah, it

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was just like, yeah, don'tlet anybody tell you you're retarded. That's
pretty pretty smart kid. Oh yeah, he's just trying to make sure he
gets his money's worth, that's allI mean. No, So, you
know, it's like of all ofall the rides I had over the years,
that was probably the most fun story. And then then it started this

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whole chain reaction in my mind oflike, man, like, should we
should just be letting these dudes dowhatever they want? Like they're clearly like
he's not. I was like,he's not that retard, Like this guy's
not like needs to be in ahome. He's clearly like he's he might
be smarter than me. You know, I've had the same girlfriend for nine
years. It's cost me way morethan four hundred bucks, and we've probably

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had sex as much as as eachother has had. So h, that's
monogamy for you. But uh no, I wanted to ask when you said
when you say like it's clearly you'retarted, Like, do you do you
feel like you voiced any of thisor do the people you work with no
kind of where you stand with it? Do you feel have you felt any
heat yet? Since the video hasgone viral and people are like, oh,

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you're kind of not only are yousort of out as an antimasker,
but now also as like a conservativeperson who doesn't probably share the same viewpoints
as a lot of people you workwith. Yeah, it's an interesting scenario.
I as certain people. I've neverreally had the conversation openly with anyone
that I work with, but certainpeople I think have either seen it and

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they just haven't told me, orthey just kind of like get the vibe.
Yeah, certain people will be likethe other day, I was working
with an actor and he's like,we got to talking and I had the
stupid muslim because otherwise I can't getinto work. And he was like a
couple like five minutes and he's like, hey, just say, you know,
if you want to take your maskoff, you can. I'm not

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like what prompted him to say that. Did he see the video? Yeah?
Do you think did you question itor did he say like, oh
I saw the video or you didn'tsay and I didn't question only because there
was other people in the room whowould You would not have gone over well
with M. But I guess thisand I will have to fall off.

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It's so weird how now we treatpeople who like fresh air like we're hiding
Jews in World War Two. It'slike, oh, you don't want to
wear the mask, quick, quick, get inside. It's so weird to
like such a like it's so oddthat we don't look back in our history
and go like, yeah, weused it. We had times in society
where shit like this was happening andit didn't go well, So maybe like

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let's not repeat it forms from thatperhaps, But I think that's the issue
behind all of this is that peopleclearly are uneducated and don't know anything about
histories. I mean, you don'tunderstand the signs and the preboardings to it
all. But yeah, I don'tknow. It's funny because the people running
the show that I was on,who people requiring the damn muzzle are walking

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around with it's just strung on oneear, Like, yeah, you look
for them. It's like you're cool. You just have a mask dangling off
your ear and likely it's crazy.Again, I wear glasses and so I
can barely wear one without it foggingmy glasses. Yeah, terrible. So
it's like, you know, ifI'm if I'm driving, or if I'm

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in the grocery store whatever, Like, you know, you're in the grocery
store, you're supposed to have oneon, and it's like I have to
I have to switch between either glassesor mask, right, So I'm just
like this the entire time of tryingto fit. It's just a nightmare face
shields. No, I no,I'm not. Did you just ask Am
I considering investing money into some ppefor myself? No? Absolutely not.

(22:22):
I will not be Hey, it'sThat's the other thing that's kind of gross
is like how many companies were like, we're gonna lead the mask technology right,
Like they're just like, we havea hooded sweatshirt that now covers your
whole fucking face. It's seven hundreddollars and people are like, I want
to I want to look cool whilei'm machine. Have you seen the one

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that say uh, it's like anelectronic mouth reader, So it's like a
robot that moves its mouth along withyour mouth so people can read your lips.
And people are like, oh,that's a genius ideas. So you
can actually see what the people aresaying. Yeah, hold on, let
me find this one. There's uhwhere. Since we're on this, we
should probably show some of these thepeople. These are mask innovations. Where's

(23:07):
the one? Oh? Yeah,this is one I like. When we're
talking about utterly stupid shit, thisis a segment on the show we'd like
to call utterly stupid shit. It'soh my god, this is the one.
Yeah, they have these so maskswith holes for eating, you know,

(23:27):
or you could just maybe not fuckingwear one in the first place.
Here's a crazy idea, I mean, and this isn't just like one dude
who had the idea. This islike all of these different you know,
like here's this one's handmade. Ohif I use my two masks like this,
it can look like I'm wearing amask and then not be wearing a
mask. Those are the videos Ithink are really funny too, when people

(23:49):
are like, I don't know whatthis chick's doing. That doesn't look good
at all. Well, my god, she's got a hole in it.
And then yeah, this one,where's the one. Wasn't there a one
where a guy man with mask thatlooks like face? Oh yeah, he
had he had a mask made ofhis own face. Yeah, this guy

(24:10):
that was pretty funny where it lookslike he's not wearing a mask it.
Yeah, I thought it was funny. Have you How about that ball sack
one? That's a good one.Where do you see that it's like on
the top row after it's like fourin from the left. Oh yeah,
oh, that's a good one.Yeah, there you go. Yeah,
yeah, you can now wear amask that looks like testicles. That that's

(24:33):
what I would do, wouldn't wouldn'tit be good to just have a mask
that's just a giant dick hanging fromyour face. Yeah, and just go,
well technically this listen, you didn'ttell me which mask I got to
pick, so I get to pickwhichever one I want, and now you're
telling me it's inappropriate and you andthe other trick you would have to do
is you could get one that's blackso that if they ask you to remove
it, it's not only a fringingon your freedoms, it's racism. There

(24:56):
you go, This is my Thisis my This is a BLM mask,
and I am wearing it to supportBLM. Big luscious man meat. That's
what it stands for. Yeah,there's so so many stupid innovations and masks

(25:18):
and people like we're going to cashin on this pandemic. For sure,
It's like I don't. I mean, I get it. I get everybody's
trying to make money all the time, but there are some things that I
just think, like, you know, maybe make it a different way.
You know. And that's the otherproblem too, is like that's in a
way that sort of innovation is complianceas well. You're like sort of saying,
we accepted so much, we're goingto just start adapting to it and

(25:41):
innovating around it, exactly as morethey're furthering the problem. It's not helping
anything. Have you always been conservativeor have you been, like a lot
of people, sort of found yourselffeeling pushed this way more recently, I
have all we has been more conservativeleaning, not as hardcore as I am

(26:03):
now, But you know, I'vealways thought most things are just generally stupid,
Like mainstream media. Is that apolitical group? What is it if
I just think everything is stupid?What party is that? That's the owls
and party? I don't know.I've always you know, I've never really

(26:26):
bought into the ship that most peoplelike, So I've always been kind of
an owl. It's weird because thiswhole movement, so to speak, has
brought me closer, just like Ihave more friends now than I ever have
had, and like so many,I think it's like, you know,
connected a lot of people who arelike minded, and I didn't really even
know that these people existed here insouthern California. So it's very refreshing to

(26:52):
be as open about myself as Iam and then have it be so well
reciprocated. Yeah, when I wentthrough my my sort of cancelation in twenty
eighteen, the first go around,I've found that same thing where they were
like people reaching out to me,and I was like, not only do
I not know you, but Ihad no idea that you're this closet conservative
person. And by the way,I would love the old public acknowledgement to

(27:17):
maybe get my ass out of thefire a little bit, and they're just
like, no, no, Ilike to stay hidden under you know.
It's like this week again. Likeit's so it's sort of like the blacklist
of communism back in the fifties inHollywood, and now it's like that way
with conservatism, where like conservative celebritiesand entertainers and stuff are very much in
the closet. Like it's it's worseto me. It's like the modern equivalent

(27:41):
of like being gay, Like youhave to hide, you know, you
have to be like, man,I've got to make sure that I'm with
liberal people in public, or elsethey might they might suspect that I'm you
know, thinking for myself behind closeddoors with my husband. I know,
I actually have a gay friend whoattended you know, some Trump rallies with

(28:02):
me. And the popular question iswhat's harder? What was harder for you
coming out as gay or coming outas a conservative, And obviously we know
the answer to that. Yeah,conservative, right for sure. Yeah,
especially as a gay like that's notgoing to be too well received. But
yeah, it's like, it's interestingto see how it's how it's kind of

(28:25):
unfolding, and it's always I feellike it's always the least the people you
would least expect that are you know, on your side, there's some people
that I would have anticipated who wouldhave been more supportive, but then you
know, they just abandon you,and then you have all these people coming
out of the woodworks, and thenyou're like, well, what the fuck
you? Well, if I havefound that, like, conservative people are

(28:45):
far more collaborative than liberal people,So like just on the comedy side,
me being a comedian, since I'vesort of been more openly conservative or more
political in general, are just moreopinionated on social median stuff. As I've
sort of identified more conservatively, Iget like I get more invitations to participate

(29:06):
in things, I get more peoplereaching out to me to book me for
their events, I get more peopleinviting me on their podcast. And so
it just sort of is like this, I don't know, And it's a
weird thing because in a way itsort of goes along with our political ideology,
right, Like the left has verymuch a scarcity mentality of there are
only so many resources and so thegovernment has to decide who gets what and

(29:27):
it has to be fair. Whereasconservatives, even though that's sort of antithetical
to the label, we have thisidea that there's plenty of abundance and all
you have to do is have opportunityand then go create great things for yourself
and the people you care about.And so, in a weird way,
it's like the conservative ideology I thinklends to more collaboration and community than the

(29:51):
left, where they're almost sort oflike every man for themselves. And you
know, even though we preach thatwe want this togetherness, this utah where
everyone has enough and the same,we don't behave that way at all.
Well, this is such a greatpoint. I think that is so accurate.
It's it's just ironic, but yeah, that's exactly what they preach.
They don't practice it whatsoever. Andyou're absolutely right. Since coming out and

(30:15):
you know, attracting all these peopleinto this circle, I've had more opportunities
more like strangers offer me jobs,Like I've connected with so many incredible people
and never once if I've been givenhalf the opportunities that I've had in the
last six months that I have myentire ten years in LA, Like it's
yeah, it's crazy, but it'salso like reaffirmation that we a hundred percent

(30:40):
are on the right side of thingsand that it's just I love the support
and I think it's just this mutualthing that everyone we kind of want to
create our own like parallel economy ofpeople that can trade services or you know,
we can eventually build up our ownthings so that we don't no longer
have to be involved with the Left, and I mean, ultimately they want

(31:02):
to cancel us anyway, So Ithink it's important that we kind of establish
this now so that we can moveforward with that in future. Yeah,
I mean, do you do youthink they'll be able to survive? And
what I mean by that is likethis sort of this liberal thing. I
think there's this idea that it's likebeyond reproach, Like I think a lot
of these people think that they're justso powerful and that they're so large in

(31:23):
numbers that it's never going to change, and then but the reality on the
ground doesn't feel like that. Doyou feel that way? Like I feel
like the number of people that arenot just that have been there, but
that are kind of waking up tolike, Okay, a year of this
is fucking crazy, and the thingsthey're telling us on TV, or if
you didn't think they made sense ayear ago, you're you definitely have to

(31:47):
be coming around to the fact thatit doesn't make sense now. And like,
regardless of like left wing or conservative, I feel like even more and
more people every day are waking uplike, oh, the government is not
our friend, and this government that'sin right now is definitely not our fucking
friend, and maybe the things they'retelling us about who we are as a
people and how we should be isnot real and not true. I feel

(32:10):
like that number is growing every day, and I don't know, I don't
think they're going to be able tokind of continue to monopolize our business the
way that they have. I don'tknow. Yeah, that's it's a good
point. I go back and forthon it all the time. I feel
like there are more and more peoplewaking up every day. It's hard though,
being in LA I feel like it'sit's different there, and I feel

(32:32):
like there's so many liberals there whoare still so you know, hell bent
on believing whatever the government tells them. Being constantly in that environment, it's
hard for me to like see intothe future and think that it could get
better. But anytime I leave LAor I connect with other people online or
whatever, I see how many ofus there are. And you know,

(32:54):
I've received countless messages from people thattell me, oh yeah, I've been
thinking this for a while, andwhatever you posted made me realize that they
don't have our best interest. ThoughI don't know, I do hope it's
a continuous week up process. Butwhenever it feels like we're a long way
away, Yeah it does. Iguess it does. Yeah, I don't

(33:15):
know, And I don't know untilwe stop complying, then nothing will change.
Too well, I think I thinka lot of it is like sunken
cost too for a lot of people. So I think a lot of people
are like, well, I've playedby the rules for so long, and
I've been like a good soldier forso long that if I were to start
questioning things now, I would throwaway all of the time and energy I

(33:36):
put into just doing what I wastold for sure. And who what liberal
wants to come out and admit thatthey've you know, started questioning things or
have converted Like, no one's goingto admit to that or be proud of
it, because they're just going tobe shamed. Yeah, there was one
today, Like I caught onto itlate, but there's a like a female

(33:57):
comic here in La who was basicallyreferencing the Shane Gillis thing, the guy
who got hired by S and Land then canceled because he had made Asian
jokes on a podcast, And shewas like referencing the fact that that that
basically leads to violence against Asian people, Like jokes about Asian people turn into

(34:19):
violence against Asian people. And thenwhat the internet is fucking great at They
go back and find her tweets makingfun of Asian people as a comedian and
then out her and she's like,yeah, I was seventeen. We all
make mistakes, and it's like,wait a minute, So that excuse works
for you, but it doesn't workfor everybody else. But she'll get away
with it because she's an open liberal. Like it's like this weird sort of

(34:45):
thing where there's they're not even attemptingto look principled anymore, Like they're not
even hiding that cancel culture is forconservatives and it is not for liberals,
and there are no rules. Andso my perspective as a creative in that
space says, Okay, fuck you, I'm going to do whatever I want,
because you're also telling us that there'sno point in following the rules because

(35:07):
we're being targeted for our beliefs.So now there's no good faith for me
to play along. And so nowI'm just going to be as rogue and
fucking crazy as I want to be, and there's nothing you can do about
it. Absolutely same here, butdo anything that That is the problem,
And to go back to your previousquestion, is what will hold us back
from eventually like people from everyone wakingup, is that the people that run

(35:31):
the entertainment industry and the media willcontinue to shove that narrative down people's throat
and then you know, we'll neverget anywhere. And now that Biden is
in office, like, how arewe ever going to overcome this? It
feels like it's just a downwards viralfrom how much how much longer do you
think he'll be in office? Ithink it's a ticking time bomb. I

(35:53):
predicted that he would be out byfourth of July. I actually still feel
pretty good. After the stair incident. The other day, I was like,
I still feel pretty good about this. I still feel pretty good.
I don't think I don't think hemakes it a year into the term.
I'll definitely say that, but Istill think there's a possibility that he could
get what is a twenty sixth amendmentedout by fourth of July. And you

(36:14):
know, like Kamala is already doinglike international calls and talking to foreign leaders,
and you know, like she's doinga lot of ship behind the scenes,
but in an interesting way, likethat's not uncommon for a vice president
to do that thing, those things, but what is uncommon or all the
photo ops, like all the picturesof her, like this is Kamala on

(36:35):
the phone with like the president ofChina, and it's like, yeah,
they normally didn't post more pictures ofthe VP doing the president job than the
president. But it kind of makessense. Like, yeah, but you
know, you're seeing it a littlebit in California with the with the recall
Newsom initiative, and I know you'vebeen kind of vocal about that. That's
one area where I feel like evenliberal people in California are going, yeah,

(37:00):
this dude's gotta go. Yeah,I agree, although there are you
know now that he's deemed the recalla crazy right way, Yeah, he
said it's so, he said it'sbeing driven by white supremacists. You know,
it's bad when even like I can'tremember who was drilling him on CNN,
but when CNN is going, yes, when they're just going, like

(37:21):
Gavin, clearly it's not all proudboys and racist, and he's like most
of it though, and he's like, are you out of your fucking mind?
I know, it's just hilarious.I mean he really he really wants
to convince you that, you know, and this is like, this is
what drives me nuts is as apolitician, he could save himself if he

(37:43):
just came out and said, yeah, you know what, in hindsight,
we probably all would have done thingsdifferently around COVID as a leader. You
know, if people feel like Ifell short of what I was supposed to
do, I have to be accountableto that. And the recall laws are
the way they are so that ifpeople feel like I'm not governing the way
that I'm supposed to govern, thatthey can take action. And you know,

(38:05):
now I'm focused on, you know, getting it right, communicating that
message going forward, and winning thenew election. If I am recalled,
he would win back so many peoplethat fucking hate him. But when you
go out on the news and yougo this is nothing, it's just the
white supremacist and the Proud Boys,people are going like, are you fucking
crazy? I know, I know, I know, it's just it's hilarious.

(38:28):
I mean, to even think thathe's capable an apology, it's just,
you know, a bit of along chop, dude. Do you
remember when he came, I mean, after the French laundry insidy. He
was laughing, he was like,yeah, I really shouldn't be fucking He's
like, hey me another halapeno popper. I really shouldn't be doing this.
But you guys are fucking crazy,you know, he was like he was

(38:49):
like literally still at the dinner inthe press conference where they like handing him
shots, and he's like, listen, you got hold on a minute.
The people are bitching again. Letme just he was like, fucking it
was like nothing to him. Iknow it was do you I don't know
where you went to high school.But to me, it reminded me of
like when the kids whose parents ownedhalf the town got called into the principal's

(39:10):
office. It was that same attitude, look, oh, what are you
gonna do? Fucking expel me,the whole school will lose its funding.
Go ahead, Like he had thatsame attitude of like, yeah, there's
nothing you could do to me.Exactly, he's such a dick, and
he looks and he looks like everyBatman villain before they get dipped in acid.

(39:30):
Look at it, doesn't he Helooks like the real life Harvey Dent
does such a fucking creep. Thequestion is who are they going to run
against him? That's one of thereasons I was kind of mad Ben Shapiro
left town because I actually thought he'ssomebody who could run against him and win
and then potentially run for president inanother six years. Or something that would

(39:52):
have been great. I don't know. I've been hearing that if he does
get recalled, which I don't eventhink that he will. I mean,
they can break the presidential election,and they can obviously do anything but shots
fired, we're gonna get well,it's a good thing we're not on YouTube.
We'll get taken down. No,thank yeah. Oh so wait a

(40:15):
minute, are you one of theseventy five million conspiracy theorists that think that
the guy who had the lowest rallysupport in the history of American presidents somehow
got more votes than Obama. Iknow, it's hard to believe, right,
I mean, come on, man, it's like you want me to

(40:35):
believe that guy's the most popular candidatein American history. You want me to
believe that. It's just ridiculous,even if they said, even if even
if the news. The only wayI believe it is if the news came
out and go listen, we knowJoe Biden sucks, but we do believe
that one hundred million people voted fornot Donald Trump. I would go,
Okay, at least I believe that. But when the media is coming out

(40:59):
and they're going Joe Biden is themost popular president in American history, are
like, Nope, I don't believethat that. I don't believe history.
Yeah, it's like okay, andI mean, who knows how much footage
there has to be of like ballotharvesting and things like. They're just like
and that's what I love about,like all the fact checking. They're just

(41:21):
like, uh, we've I know, you have real, live broadcasted footage
of somebody double counting ballots, butwe've fact checked that. And by we,
I mean the network that's arguing thispoint. Uh, and we've decided
it's not real. I'm I'm waitingfor I'm waiting for the article to come
out that says fact checkers have actuallyfound out that the sky is red.

(41:45):
I don't know if you know that, but we've fact checked it and it
actually is not blue. It isred. So you know, if you
think it's blue, it's probably becauseyou're a Nazi and that's what they think.
Yes, exactly, so nuts.Here's a question I have for you
working in your industry. Have yourun into any job postings that have mandatory

(42:07):
vaccination as part of the job yet? Not yet, but I am sure
it is not far all it's coming. Yeah, it's coming. My girlfriend
works in production and she's already seeingproduction jobs posted that said you have to
bring proof of vaccination to the job. Really. Yeah, So you know,

(42:28):
I can't wait. I can't waitfor us to jump onto one of
those class action lawsuits against SAG foryou know, mandate. I mean literally,
forget about the last four years ofTrump and Biden and any of that
shit. Go back five years andtell me that America is going to start
forcing vaccinations and tell me that anyoneis okay with that. No, by

(42:52):
the way, we didn't have mandatoryvaccinations for AIDS and that killed way more
people than COVID corrects. So ifthere wasn't a mandatory AIDS vaccine, but
there's now, we're making COVID vaccinesmandatory. People about this like what?
I would love to hear a liberalsstance on that. Yeah, Biable in

(43:14):
any of your guard It just blowsmy mind that people think that that is
not just okay, but that they'renot even pushing back on it. Yeah,
well they want it and they bragabout it. You've seen the videos.
Oh I got my shot? Ohyeah, some social media cloud.
It's just like our the level thatit's gone to is just truly sinning.

(43:35):
I call those I can't be friendswith this person anymore posts. Well I
see somebody sharing a video about themgetting vaccinated. I'm like, mmm,
I gotta put you on mute forever, miss friendship. I just can't.
I just can't like just the waythat you're listen. I don't know about
you, but I took a retardedkid to a prostitute one time, and

(43:55):
he makes more sense. So I'mgonna look him up and we're going to
be friends now, and he's goingto take your place, because being retarded
and going to a prostitute is actuallysomehow more intellectually acceptable than sharing video proof
of you getting vaccinated. And bythe way, if you follow some anti
vax logic, you're gonna end upright next to him getting a vaccination that

(44:21):
late in your life, you alsomight be visiting a prostitute at four in
the morning in the very near future. This kid again, I gotta put
it. I gotta put I don'tknow what their signal is. Is it
just a bike helmet projected against themoonlight. I don't know what would a

(44:42):
retarded people's bat signal be no idea, no idea, I don't know.
Well, sending your submissions, guys, I would love in the yeah,
in the comments, tell us whatyou think would be a good retarded bat
signal, and then I'll make thatinto a T shirt. It should just
be a vaccination, it should justbe a vaccine shot, and then it

(45:07):
will hit them on every level,right, Yes, Yeah, it's just
there's a lot of them. There'sa lot of things you could use,
and I'm sure all my I'm surethe people that are in my in my
locals community will share the ones like, oh, here they are. I'm
sure they'll come up with some reallyfunny examples of that stuffy are you?

(45:29):
You said earlier that it's sort ofin your DNA and your makeup to like
want to stay and push back.Do you feel I think I mentioned this
to you. Do you feel thatway about southern California? Do you feel
like you need to stay here andkind of push back against that stuff because
a lot of us have just tucktailand left to other parts of the country.
They've gone to Texas, they've goneto Florida. I think I gave

(45:51):
Fleckish shit in his DMS of likedude, we need you here, like
you should have stayed here and keptfucking fighting this shit here, you know,
And that's how I feel as acomedian. I was like, I
don't I'm not just gonna back awayfrom the battleground and let the fucking you
know, the liberal cucked beyond belief, you know, trust fund comedian kids

(46:15):
just take the scene over. Yeah, I think there's got to be comedians
that are willing to speak truthfully andchallenge the status quo. And you know,
it's like, I'm not I'm notlike that chosen person, but I
am somebody who's not going to backdown from the fight, absolutely, and
I highly respect that. I thinkthere needs to be, you know,

(46:37):
more people like that, because yes, you're right, a wat people just
took off and left, and weneed everyone here and keep fighting. I
mean, that's there's no way we'regonna have any chance if we just all
leave and and not to mention theplaces that people are going to, we're
just going to be totally overrun withthe same bullshit if this continues on.
So uh, yeah, everyone needsto stay here and continue fighting. Have

(47:00):
you, um, have you noticedin LA some of the things that have
kind of come out of this COVIDstuff. Like I think we talked a
little bit about homelessness and how insaneit has gotten. I mean, have
you seen that in some of yourtravels driving around the city a lot?
How could I not? Well?I mean, I mean, if you're
if your commute consists of mostly justSanta Monica to Brentwood, you wouldn't see

(47:22):
any of it all day, right, I don't know. So they're in
Brentwood too, really? Oh my, yes, they're Yeah. Where it's
insane. I mean, it reallyis just horrible. And I got a
lot of backblash on the Starbucks videobecause I mentioned the homeless thing in that
video. If you watch the wholething, they're they're literally lying to the

(47:45):
streets. There's I pulled over ontoa snide street and there's a guy just
chilling on a mattress in the middleof the fucking street. So I called
it out. A lot of peoplegave me shit about it, and they
said, and I'm a terrible person, but these people are not. I
mean, and I'm not saying everyone. Obviously, there's some people who've fallen

(48:07):
on hard time, which is devastating, and you know, I'd like to
help them however possible, But thereare a good percentage of these people that
don't want to do shit. They'rejust out in the middle of the street,
shooting up, shitting on people's yarards, like continuing their drug addiction,
continuing to harass you and ask youfor money and food, Like I'll happily

(48:31):
give you food, but I've hadmany circumstances for people telling you, no,
I don't want that, just giveme money, Like that's not how
it works, bro, Like,Yeah, when did homeless people become so
aggressive and so rude and entitled?Like it's well, they were that way
in DC when I was a kid. I remember that, like in DC
in the eighties, it was thatway eighties and early nineties. But I

(48:54):
had not seen aggressive homeless people untilprobably the last five years LA, where
it's really gotten out of control.And you know, if you talk to
cops, it's like they're completely handcuffedat doing anything about it, like because
they're just not empowered to do it, Like the law doesn't really support them
in any way. I mean,the fact that we live in a state

(49:14):
or you know, a city atleast, I'm not sure if it's a
statewide thing. But a city whereit's legal to sleep on the street but
not in your car is fucking crazyto me. Exactly like you can have
somebody knock on your window and wakeyou up if you take a nap in
a parking lot at a McDonald's notspeaking for personal experience, but but but

(49:35):
meanwhile, there'll be a guy toyour point shitting in the middle of the
drive through, and they're like,there's nothing we could do about that.
I know, and I don't thinkit has anything to do with what's right
or wrong. I think the presumptionis if you have a car, you
can pay a fine, and ifyou don't, you can't. So there's
no point in wasting resources citing thosepeople. But cite the guy who has

(49:57):
a car, because he'll probably justpay the citation and you can just make
money. I mean, so muchof the law and the way this state
is run is just a grift.It's just taking money away from the taxpayer
and enriching the pockets of these politicianswho have been in office for centuries,
like Nancy Pelosi. You know,she's been in office since they took the

(50:17):
lid off the ark of the Covenant, and she fucking flew out past Indiana
Jones right into Congress and she's beenthere ever since. It was her face
that actually melted all those Nazi faces. They saw her, and then they
melted, and then and then we'vebeen trying to get her back in the
box ever since since it's not where. We almost had her in the salon.

(50:37):
We almost had her in the salon, and then she slipped away.
So ridiculous. Alison, what doyou have coming up? Anything, anything
exciting? Or is there any placepeople can follow you? I'm sure a
lot of people have been like,you're awesome, you have great opinions.
You should have your own podcast,you should have your own show. Do

(50:58):
you have anything like that coming thatpeople can come see or check out?
Um? Not yet though, Iyou know, maybe getting to that at
some point in the future, sostay tuned. But for now, I'm
just really trying to focus on themassless protests and rallying up of fellow patriots
around the southern California area. Wereyou at the one in Huntington this past

(51:22):
weekend? Well, yeah, Iwas. Yeah, I didn't know what
was going on until I Yeah,I didn't even know what was happening until
I saw it on Twitter and Iwas like, fuck who. But I've
been I've been like NonStop doing stuffto get ready for my trip across country
on Wednesday. So I'm looking forwardto that. I'm going to New York
and I'm doing some podcasts and I'mdoing a live stand up show for the

(51:42):
first time in a year in NewJersey socially distanced, So we'll see how
that goes. It'll it'll just feellike the early days of comedy when nobody
came to your fucking shows or youknow, any la open mic. That's
how those feel a lot of thetime. But yeah, so you know,
but it'll be good to just geton stage. I got a lot

(52:05):
of like new things. I've literallyjust been going through like notebooks and stuff,
just getting ready for those because Ifeel super rusty, like so rusty.
I'm sitting here going like, oh, yeah, I was working on
this bit before the shutdown, andI've totally forgot to even had it.
And I'm still I'm going through notebookstrying to find, you know, what
it was that I was working onor talking about. And then obviously,

(52:25):
you know, in the last year, certain aspects of it have changed,
or there's new things I would addor take away or whatever. But yeah,
it's like it's it's it's been nuts, man, and you know there
it's been. I'm sure it's beenreally, really tough for a lot of
the performers who their whole income wasjust touring and performing. Like yeah,
you know, that just went awayfor the last twelve months. And there's

(52:46):
some people who have continued to dolike zoom shows or different stuff like that,
but I can guarantee the money isnowhere near comparable. Probably not yet.
You're the ones still voting Democrat anyway. Yeah, I think it's stupid.
It's retarded. It as yes,it's retarded. I think it'd be
really great to compile. I've beenthinking about this for a while. I

(53:07):
want to do like a It wouldbe difficult to find a venue, but
somewhere here compile like artists, musiciansand comedians and do like a show for
people that would want to attend,who don't want to comply with bullshit,
and then you know, you canall get together and have a great night

(53:28):
and perhaps end it with a maskburning. That would be cool. Yeah,
I don't know if that's on theagenda. But there's a thing I'll
send you the link to it.There's a thing that I got asked to
be a part of that is happeningin uh in mid April, and so
I'll send it to you and maybeyou can attend, come hang out,
and maybe maybe some of those thingswill be on the docket. Um.

(53:51):
Yeah. So but it's it's interesting. I do I do think we're kind
of entering an age of maybe sortof like a Reagan California. I mean,
this is somewhat optimistic, I'm mypart, but I think we are
kind of headed back to sort ofa Reagan's California of you know, we've
got to get away from this biggovernment that appears to be, you know,
having the best intentions, but theexecution is so horribly flawed. And

(54:15):
you know, we live in astate that nobody wants to live in.
I mean when I when I talkto people that are visiting, or I
see people or like friends of minecome to visit right now, they're just
like, dude, this place lookslike a fucking third world country. They're
like, I go to Haiti tohelp every year, and this looks like
that. Like yeah, and Igo. Well, the good news is

(54:38):
we're the fifth largest GDP in theworld, you know, like we keep
talking about becoming our own country,and clearly so clearly we're nailing it literally,
you know. And that's but thisKylie Jenner thing, I had pulled
it up at one point, thenI took it off. But the Kylie
Jenner thing, to me, umis a perfect example of that. So
are you familiar with that story thathappened this week? No, her makeup

(55:01):
artist got into a car accident,by the way, glad to know it
wasn't you, But her makeup artistneeded like sixty grand for a surgery,
and rather than just take it outof your nine hundred million for the person
who makes you fuckable enough to makeall that money, she started a go
fund me and was like, Iput five grand on it. Can you

(55:23):
guys pay the rest? No,I'm not kidding. Way, I'm not
kidding. Now, if you wereyou're a makeup artist, and if you
were Kylie Jenner's makeup artist, andyou were like Kylie, I was in
a car accident. I need sixtythousand dollars, you know, to like
live. I don't know how severeit is, it could just be like,

(55:43):
A, you know, I don'tknow what it is, but I
need sixty grand. Could you likemaybe help me out or like pay for
even if you were, like,could you pay for it and then take
it out of my money for thenext however long I work on your fucking
face, you know, Like,Instead, she's like, no, but
I can set up a gofund meso that strangers who've never met you can

(56:06):
give you money because I'm famous.I would be like, the next time
I work on your face, I'musing an ice pick, but it is
the greatest shit I've ever heard of. Could you imagine I cannot even handle
this right now? Imagine imagine youare the makeup artist that took Kylie Jenner

(56:27):
from looking like Marla Hooch from aleague of their own to what she looks
like now, And she's like,I can't pay it, but I could
put something on it and I couldretweet you is that work? I would
be like, she's not gonna havea makeup artist while she's getting fucking decimated
online. So I'm sure. I'msure she's gonna hand that girl a million

(56:49):
dollars by the time it's all done. But I don't even know if it's
a girl, maybe a guy probably, But it's like, yo, dude,
I mean but that to me,Like I said, this is a
perfect example of liberalism. The reasonthat they just pump that agenda so hard
is because they have no intention ofpaying for it. They're like, I'm
not going to use my money topay for the Medicare for all or the

(57:10):
socialism. The fucking idiot trash isgoing to pay for it, and I'm
going to keep all my money becauseof write offs. Like that's that's the
mentality that they have. They reallythink that, like all these big government
things that they back will never comeout of their pocket. It's a prime
example. And people are like peoplethat are coming at me on Twitter about

(57:32):
it because I'm libertarian. They go, well, I can't think of a
better, a better reason for Medicarefor all than this, And it's like,
uh yeah, but this is theperfect example of situation where somebody shouldn't
need medicare at all, Like thisis a person who works for a wealthy
enough person to where they should justtake care of it. Now. Do
I think that our country is richenough to where we probably could do free

(57:55):
healthcare if we eliminated a lot ofother nonsense. Yeah. Probably, But
this is the reason why we can'tis because the rich people that keep saying
we should have it don't expect topay for it at all. So like
they will somehow come out without payingany taxes to fund Medicare for all,
and you and I will start payingsixty percent of our money to pay for

(58:16):
other people to get free healthcare whilerich people stay rich and don't get affected
by it. And that's the problemwith it. That's the problem with the
concept of socialism altogether, is thatit doesn't It doesn't take from the rich
and give to the poor. Ittakes from the poor and spreads everything like
peanut butter, so that everybody livesat the same level of shitty poverty except

(58:37):
for the elite. And you know, we've only got every country that's ever
tried it as an example. There'snot one example of success. If I
told you that one hundred percent ofpeople that had sex with me had herpes,
you wouldn't be the person to go. Maybe I'll go out unscathed,
right, like I think I could. I think I could dodge it,

(58:59):
like I think I'm good. No, you wouldn't do that or should you.
By the way, that's not true. That's a hypothetical. I don't
I have nothing, um um,but yeah, people can find you,
Alison Wonder Lamb Returns. If theyhaven't seen the YouTube video, should check
it out. It's very funny.Um and uh yeah, I'd love to

(59:20):
have you back on again sometime andI'll send you that stuff so you can
attend and at the very least,well we'll catch up one of these days
and burn some masks. Yeah,
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