Episode 173: Gather, Cook, Eat with Tara

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Hey everyone, welcome to The Weathering Effect episode 173.
Today's date is August 26, 2023 and I am duds or duds verses
known to the rest of the interwebs.
And I'm Carl. You may know me as Carl Rights.
What have you been up to recently?
Duds? This question might be better
for you cuz I've done nothing. You've done nothing.

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Well, I've been ill, so that's technically doing nothing.
Yeah. So I had taken a lot of the
summer off from content creationhalf heartedly in the beginning.
So a lot of people know some stuff that's happened on work.
We had a guy get hurt, go down. We didn't replace him.
He's got his job and everything.So basically that meant we had

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to step up, which kind of meant duds had to step up.
Yep, This summer has been like the worst summer of my life.
It's been absolutely horrid. And what was meant to be like a
slowdown in pace and content creation and just kind of chill
vibes doing a lot of live streaming has basically become
nothing along with the physical part.

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There were some mental, personalissues that have come up,
especially recently. Like, I'm fighting through a lot
of stuff right now, so I haven'tplayed Minecraft in a while.
I say that I just I logged in today and played some Minecraft,
but there was a good three weekswhere I didn't want to see the
game. I didn't want to touch the game.
I didn't turn my computer on half the time, which is rare.

(01:44):
Usually I can. I'm on my computer every day, at
least for like an hour or so. Yeah, yeah, I didn't know.
It's a few days where, well, quite a lot of days where you
went on Discord at all. So yeah, stuff going on.
It was, it was dark for a coupledays, leave it at that.
But I'm one of those guys to getout of that.
I kind of just take a deep breath, take a step back and

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then drive through it. So I'm starting the drive now.
Hopefully we'll be on the other side of this in no time.
Yeah, yeah, that explains where I've been.
Because I've There was so much Iwanted do this summer and that
died. Yeah, right about July 4th, that
week. That's when everything just fell
apart and I didn't look back. We've all been there, we've all

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been there, and we're all here for you duds.
Yeah, but we did do something recently Minecraft related,
didn't we? It depends on your definition
recently. I'm trying to.
We made some food. Oh yeah.
So we're going into that already.
We might as well set it up for later, right?
We had an absolutely lovely guest on the show.

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Step back a bit. We were contacted by Insight
Editions, who is a publisher. You guys may or may not know
that they have published recently the Official Minecraft
Cookbook and their marketing team reached out to us and
offered. To send us some complimentary

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cookbooks for us to check out and interview the offer on the
show. You made some burgers, I made
the Minecraft cake, and we also have a few copies to give away
to you guys as well, and we'll discuss that later on in the
show of how to enter and. All that jazz.

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And we've also got the interviewcoming up later as well.
So stick around because this good stuff on the way in today's
show, they were absolutely amazing.
We had such a great time. I think Inside Edition's
contact, you's been really good too.
Yeah, which is very nice. Amanda's been great, yeah.
She reached out and said We'd like to send you these books, no

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strings or anything. And then we were like, cool, Can
we interview Tara? They offer all good about.
You know, do you want some copies to give away?
Things like that? So they've been great.
And yeah, so I've really enjoyedmaking the food as well.
You'll hear the interview, but Carl and I are not.
They won't put this good in the kitchen.
I can follow a recipe, but that's about it.

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An easy rest, an 8 step recipe and that's about it.
But that's just it. A lot of these recipes are
really fun and stuff to try, andthe book is very high quality.
So like if you guys want the book and you you don't win the
giveaway, it's still worth purchasing.
Like there's a lot of fun stuff in here.
I forgot to tell you, I made oneof those sodas.

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Oh, did you? I keep wanting to call it the
Black Tray one because that's what it looks like.
I think I know which one you mean.
Yeah. Yeah.
I mean, it was like three or four days after the interview
that I made it. Awesome, awesome.
I made a couple of drinks as well, which you'll hear about
later. I'll leave the Amazon link in
the show notes as well, along with the links to the
competition and and Tara's linksas well.

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You guys can check all that out,but it's it's worth looking at
if you guys are interested in making some of the food that we
have in the game. There's some really great
recipes in there, and I've got so many that I still want to do,
like the firework cookies and stuff.
Yeah, and some that aren't in the game, like the Moose Room
burgers I made. Yeah, yeah, all Minecraft

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themed. Never fin.
And yeah, we'll get to that later on.
So stick around. That's basically my month.
Being ill working, making food, recording the interview and
sorting out the giveaway. And as you can hear my voice,
I'm not completely over it. Yeah, you're still in my
Thunder, Carl. I'm the one that's supposed to
cough. Yeah, all you have to do is say

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the word. Yeah, that's what I can't add it
out there, Ubi. Anyways, should we get to the
news? Let's do it.
Some pretty big news. We have two snapshots that have
come out. One of them's a bit smaller, I
should say, the most recent onesa bit smaller.

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And the way we're formatting thenews segments now, we're not
going to go over everything. There's some bands being made to
skins and names that are inappropriate, and my eyes got
real big because if you go searching through some of these
Minecraft skin sites, there are some bad ones on the.
Yeah, you know who you are. I'm really excited to see that

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going away. That'll be nice.
And if Mojang does decide to take your name or skin off you,
it looks like that you'll just be asked to create a new name
before you can play online. Or yeah, you'll be given a
default skin before you're allowed to play online.
From what I can tell, they're not going to take much more
action than that against your account.
You know, just pick a sensible name and skin and you'll be all

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good. But the big thing came from the
mental snapshot. Yeah, it's reworking the trading
system with villagers. Both of us are on the good but.
Bad fence? Yeah, I have mixed feelings.
On the one hand, I get it, yes. Villages are opie, yes.

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I wanted to also make that like we both understand why villagers
are being reworked, even if we don't fully agree with how
they're being reworked, because we're both like the whole
curing. A villager definitely need to be
fixed, and even then, after I think it was ripple effects
season three. I've never cured villagers after
that. It's so easy to get emeralds

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naturally in the game. Yeah, some of those.
Raid farms are just like absolutely insane.
And the amount of emeralds you get, not even raid farms,
because again, since season three, I haven't built a raid
farm. I have an iron farm that I trade
my iron with a couple of villagers and then I'll have
like a wheat, carrot, potato farm and I'll trade those

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veggies with villagers. And that gets me more than
enough emeralds to do anything Iwant.
Like as long as that is still inthe game, I don't have much
problem with the you can't cure villagers over and over and over
again to make them super cheap. Yeah, it's this next part that
I'm kinda okay and it's locking certain trades behind certain

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villagers in certain biomes. Yes, that's my kind of, well,
there's another. But I like it and I don't like
it. I like it because it allows the
player to be more precise when trying to get a trade they need.
So you're not sitting there 45 minutes putting a lectern down

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and pulling it up. I should say this is for
librarian villagers. Yeah, we're not talking the
other ones. Java.
I don't think this change has come to bedrock yet.
I don't think it's on bedrock yet.
But yeah, certain like fire resistance book would be a
villager from the desert. Think it's a mending book?
Is a swamp villager? Silk touch would be snow and

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unbreaking would be jungle. That's where they sort of, well,
they lose me on several parts, but this is where they lose me
for one of the parts, which is having jungle and swamp in there
when there isn't actually natural villages there.
If they want to do this change and implement it into the final
game and like we say it's in theexperimental so we don't know

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whether this is going to be in 1.20 dot two or whether it's
going to be in 121 or 122 or 123or whatever, we don't know.
If they want to do this then they need to put in jungle and
swamp naturally generating villages because I feel like the
average player is going to be like where's my own breaking
books? I've been in every bio, I've

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been to every village and I can't get on break.
Thinking Well, that's because they're in the jungle and there
isn't naturally, you know, you've got to bring villages
from other biomes into that, create a breeder and breed them
from that. That's a lot to ask for the
average player. Yes, they need to address that.
Definitely. That that was one of my big
gripes was the normal average player.

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Don't forget, over half the players still haven't gone to
like the end or something like that.
Remember that ridiculous stat? Yeah, there was some statistic
about. I think it was the never the
nether okay, yeah. I don't know what percentage it
was, but it was lower than I would have expected.
Yeah, it was some massive number.
And now you're asking the average player to learn villager
mechanics and stuff. So having the villages actually

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there would be nice. Yeah.
And then you have the problem ofhave you ever tried to move a
villager? Yeah, that's the most annoying
thing in the entire world. I know people who would rather
fight Withers then move a villager.
Villages are so annoying and I worked with them extensively in
season free of ripple effect. And this is where my next

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criticism of this changes my entire base concept for you.
For the guys that don't know. I had a museum island which I
turned into like a cyan teal scifi kind of island and I had
all my farms underneath and I had on the top I.
Did all the interiors and all the buildings all differently

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because I because that season I was all about trying to better
my interiors and I had villages in 95% of the buildings had
villages in them related to the farm underneath.
But I wanted them in that cyan teal uniform which you only get
in the snowy bio. So for me to get all the
enchantments that I wanted for the librarians in my little.

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Library building. I would have had to have mixed
their uniforms and they wouldn'thave matched.
They were villages on the islandand that was a big part of the
concept of that base. After this change, I wouldn't
have been able to do that to thefull extent that I wanted to,
right? I know that's a very sort of
niche. I don't think many people are

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doing that, and that's kind of aniche kind of example, but it's
a real example. You can go and watch my videos
great in the Island and see all the villages in the same uniform
because I pulled them all from the Christmas area on Ripple
season three. If we want to talk niche, I
remember reading somewhere that this now affects super flat
players. Oh yeah, it would.

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Yeah, that's true, because you don't have all those kinds of
biomes and stuff, so they would lose out on some of the
enchantments and stuff. So I think that's sort of those
cases are probably things they never fall when they were
implementing this, they are super.
Yeah, but it's something they probably didn't really consider.

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Yeah, but I don't want to be completely negative on this
change because as we said before, we understand, right?
They're completely OK They need working on.
Yeah. And at the same time, I kind of
like the fact that the enchanting table now relevant
again because you can get enchantments from the
enchantment table that you can'tget from villages unless you go

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to a specific bio. Yeah.
So my big problem with villages before well as they are now.
Is that the enchantment table isbasically useless because it's
so easy to get the book that youwant.
And it's kind of nice that now it doesn't completely fix the
problems with the enchantment table, but it gives it some
purpose. Again, yeah, I'm under the

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enchantment table has always sucked to me.
I like the concept of the enchanting table, but playing
with enchantment levels and all that, trying to figure that out.
I've really enjoyed when they you remember when they changed
the lapis to either 1-2 or three.
You remember when you needed like a ton of lapis to enchant
things. Yeah, so that was a rework in

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the correct direction. Now we have the problem with
these same villagers that we were trading for don't always
give Max level enchantments whenyou do trade form, so it makes
the anvil even more important. But we still have that hard lock
of too expensive on there. Yeah, now most of everything

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I've seen so far is you can still do Max level enchantments
on all your equipment and still be under that too expensive
thing. But these are also coming from
players who know by heart how you have to stack books, yeah,
and items and stuff to get the lowest.
And again, the average player. Are they gonna understand
enchanting mechanics or that gonna hurt them?

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That's the thing, like, it's very easy to do all that stuff
wrong, right? I've done it many times, yeah.
And these last couple updates, to me, it's felt like there's
been a lot of unnecessary grinding.
And this is where Duds is in a very niche place of my own.
I am not an explorer. I'm a home buddy.
I'm gonna go get what I need andthen come back and every update

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seems like, well, we're doing this so you explore more.
We're doing this so you explore more.
We're doing this so you explore more.
I don't want to explore more. I want to be creative in my
little zone. So now we have a lot more
grinding with villagers and having to explore more.
And if I'm gonna build a good XPfarm, why not let me take
advantage of that? Take the too expensive lock back

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off. Remember when like you try to
fix your axe or whatever and it'd be like 100 levels?
Yep, bring it back. Bring it back.
If you're going to make it harder for me to enchant tools
to Max enchantment, reward me bygiving me the too expensive.
Like, hey, you put in this time and effort to make an XP form,
or hey, you did the time and effort of going around in either

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killing mobs for XP or mining courts like you do an early
game. You deserve to be able to use
your levels. Yeah, definitely.
There's got to be a give and take.
I like the fact that we're we work in some villagers, but
there's some other things that Ithink need to be reworked too.
I'd like to see the enchantment table.
I don't want to say buffed, because you can still get some
really good enchantments from a single enchantment.

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Like I've gotten the Unbreaking 3 Fortune 3, Efficiency whatever
for on the enchantment table. So you can still get a lot of
really good enchantments, but it'd be like a little little
rework would be nice. I think even when they implement
this into the game, I would hopethat it would come with changes

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to the enchantment table as well.
I think that's why it's behind the experimental button where
bundles still are to this day. Yeah.
So yeah, I think, and they're looking for feedback as well.
There's a link to a feedback form, which we'll put in the
show notes as well, so you guys can give your feedback on the
Village of Changes as well. It's robably a while before we

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see this in the game, and it will robably go through loads of
iterations like it usually does.We'll see what happens.
One of the other big thing that I want to mention is like,
enchantments for your fishing rod and your Trident and I think
the crossbow. Crossbow.
Yeah, yeah, none of those are being sold through villagers
anymore. No.
And everyone's like, well, you have to use the enchanting

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table. Why can't a fisherman trade you
a book? I get librarians, they're known
for the books and stuff, but if I needed to go somewhere to
learn about fishing. Go to a fisherman?
Yeah, I don't necessarily would want to go to a library.
I'd go to a fishing hole and talk to a fisherman.
That's been doing a while. So maybe that'd be cool for a

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fisherman. I mean, we have the Fletcher
Villager who doesn't have a gooduse for his table.
Still, they can do crossbows. I don't know about the Trident
stuff, but to me it seems like agood idea to put those there.
They're not really enchantments that people are gung ho looking
for all the time, like unbreaking or mending.

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I don't think it would be too more breaking.
Yeah, completely agree. Or maybe allow them to sell
enchanted items. You don't get the books, but you
can get the item. Kind of like the armor and Tool
Smith and all that stuff. This is a fisherman cell,
enchanted fishing rods. Now, OK, I was gonna say I
haven't messed with the fishermen much.
Now that's a good idea. I like that.

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Share the love of the enchantments around then.
If you're gonna make these kind of changes, yeah, cubed Con.
Cube Con 6 to the 8th of October.
It's coming soon. We've built a booth in their
creative world. We're just waiting to see
whether it'll go in the venue. I'm sure that it will.
And other things that we want todo, but we haven't had any
confirmation on any of that yet.So we can't say anything, but

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yeah, and I will put we got there.
Channel 64 also has a booth. They do indeed, since I'm part
of that SMP, Throw that out there.
We did have the Channel 64 tour date not too long ago.
You did, Yeah. How did that go?
I was at work when you did that,so I didn't get to get involved,
unfortunately. Yeah, we all played a bunch of
mini games on the server and stuff, did a couple tours.

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It was strange being on there. I think I was off the server for
about a month when that happened, so going back through
my old skin on, logged in and stuff.
So it's refreshing because that is my favorite base I've ever
made. It's always nice to go back and
be happy. Yeah, definitely.
I wish I had done more to the exterior, but you know me, I'm

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an inside guy. You sure?
Polls. We asked you guys on Spotify
which of these missed opportunities which you'd like
to see added to Minecraft and wehad a tie, which is crazy
because there were 66 votes, butthe plant slash storage to the

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pots and items on hanging signs both tied.
Matter of fact, basically everything was relatively close
to each other. I think a lot of people like all
of the missed opportunities, notso much the per player loot on
the server where each person would be able to open a chest.
Which I still stand behind, We'll see that came in second on

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the. YouTube poll It did, it did, and
the YouTube only lets me do fivethings which I forgot about.
So it's sort of off. Yeah.
To the Spotify one because there's more on there, but yeah,
they nearly 30% on YouTube for that one, but only 4% on that's
six, 6% on the Spotify pole for per player, loo on servers and

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dime pots one on that one and storage in pots at 43%.
Yeah, I think it's sort of very similar across both platforms
that they kind of like the ability to.
Dye pots and put storage in themand then the items on hanging
signs, which is just an obvious idea if you ask me that they
should definitely implement in 1/21.

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I don't understand the no dying pot.
Saying that still blows my mind.Yes.
Click on it with a you know a dye, right?
Or let me put blue dye on my brush and then let my brush
paint pots. Paint it?
Yeah, simple Bam. There you go, free ideas Mojon.
Unless you want to send us a check, which we're not going to

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turn down, I don't think that'llgo over too well.
Carl knows me. Anytime there's a money
involved, I get scared. Yeah, he turned down £1,000,000
every day. It's terrible.
One. I wouldn't even know what to do
with £1,000,000. Like how do you carry that?
That's extremely heavy. Too much Carl now, dollars.

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Now we're talking. OK, all jokes aside, we have
some listener comments. This one's from Star Hammer 88.
This was a long time coming. They posted this early July.
I already explained what happened in early July, or at
least kind of halfway, so I am so sorry it's taken this long to

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get to your comment. But they say hey, everyone just
finished listening to all the episodes from 1 to 171.
I hate to hear that Jimbo is leaving the show, but I know
it's for the better. Now for my question.
I think the Netherite Smithing template is a bad addition to
Minecraft, So what would y'all have liked to see in its thank
you and keep up the amazing work?
Thank you so much for submittingyour question and hanging out
there and I agree with you, I don't like the netherright

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smithing template. Is that like the templates we
talked about? That's the template you have to
use now to upgrade Diamond to Netherright.
Yeah, that seems stupid. It follows my Hey, you're gonna
grind for more unnecessary grind.
Yeah, like grinding for Netherite tools was already
grindy. So the fact that you now make me

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grind again for a key to unlock something I've already had
unlocked previous generations. Don't see what was up with with
the previous way of doing it to be honest.
I think, yeah, they're just adding more complexity for
complexity sake. Yeah, I know there was a lot of
people saying another right was too easy to get or to Opie.

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It all comes down to the fact that the Smurf thing, this
started back in like 1819 where everyone was Smurfs, everyone
was blue, everything was blue because everyone had all the
diamond gear needed a way to kind of change it up a little
bit. So another right comes in and
and there's some stuff that makes a little bit better, a
little different and stuff and well, that became the new OP

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armor. So they're not now.
Everyone just turned to purple. For me, like, I've never really
done never right anyway, becauseI just don't see the value in it
for the work. So I definitely are going to do
it now. You have to get something else
to be able to upgrade. Your diamonds are never right.
Anyway, yeah, I don't fully understand the whole costing
more diamonds to duplicate thing.

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Again, kind of rude me a little wrong because if you're playing,
if you're playing on a server, stuff like that becomes.
Sometimes it's harder, sometimesit's easier.
It really depends on the server,but they went ahead and upped
the amount of diamond generation, the diamond door
generation in the world. Yeah, I'm now OK with you have
to spend diamonds to duplicate templates.

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The one thing I was scared aboutwas being able to come up with
that many diamonds. Looking at the generation, I
think that's good. It's right on par.
I'm fine with that. It's down at deep, slight level,
isn't it? Yeah, all the way down to the
bottom. The closest you get to bedrock,
the higher the rate. Yeah, which is all good, all
good, but you can't instant mineit.
So you can't instant mine it. But if you have the top tier

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enchantments on your pickaxe, it's not horrible.
Yeah, that being said, now that might be a problem.
The update frag rocks in chat and they're saying they may
never I less common. I hope they didn't do that.
I didn't personally see that when I was looking over.
I could have missed it also, butif they did that, that's a bad
idea. Like why?

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Why would you make the rarest orin the game more rare?
Yeah, I'm not sure on that one, whoever.
That's actually I think. And to me, making the
netherright template a thing, you made the rarest or more rare
just because. Of that, yeah, I guess that
might be what Frederick's referring to.
You've kind of made it more rarebecause you've added this extra
step to finding something to go with it.

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It's a bit upgraded, yeah. Well, I think you can just
straight up craft Netherite armor and tools and stuff like
you would normally craft iron and diamond and stuff.
Yeah, nobody wants to go throughthat.
No, the template's just an extrastep to be an extra step.
I did not like it. What would I put it in its
place? So I would have left it exactly

(25:21):
the same. You can add the templates and
not add this Netherite template and everything would still work
just fine. Your your gatekeeping players to
have to go somewhere and this, this is again where Dud's game
play just doesn't work for this.I'm very much aware that I'm
probably in the minority, but raiding bastions and going

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through fortresses and stuff, that's not my cup of tea.
I I do it maybe once a season and never mind, I ain't doing
that again. Now I'm kind of being forced to.
So I'm very against the grain onthis one, as I'm sure with the
players who never go to the Nether are.
But then again, if you don't go to the nether, you're not

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getting another right anyways. So.
That is very true. Yeah, that's very true.
Anyways, this one's from Jesse Wand we all know Jesse W's gotta
make an entrance. They kick the door down and
repair it carefully and ask. Any thoughts on an extended
Biome update? For instance, the depth ocean

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all the way to down to bedrock with new threats and treasures.
The new oak forest, big forest of old oaks with random open
patches for flowers to grow. I feel simple things that would
change Minecraft a lot and help with exploring.
Well know where I stand on exploring.
Jesse W Dino fanatic was slain by a bird.

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I mean a plane. I mean a platypus.
And I have to read it this way. I mean parry.
No, no, I can't do that voice. Parry the platypus.
Harry the Platypus. Yeah, I can't do do fish mertz,
but I read it just for you, Jesse.
Yeah, I would love miniature biomes inside Biome updates.
Yeah, we got that with the bamboo in the jungle.

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We're getting that a bit with cherry blossoms, mangrove, the
mangrove inside swamps. Yeah, we're already getting some
of that, so I would love. More of it, Yeah, definitely.
I would love more of it. You don't necessarily have to do
an entire Biome of upgrade. Just sections.
Yeah, I'm sure they will do moreof those.

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You know, we're getting to a point where there's not too many
low hanging fruits left on big updates now, right?
The end as one of them. Then the mystery dimension from
the ancient city. Yeah, that one.
Those are probably the two biggest ones and then after
they've done those maybe they'llgo to starting to do some of
these Biome within biomes, you know add in little.

(27:55):
Areas like we've discussed and yeah, I think that's probably
where they'll have to go becauseif they want to release a new
update at least every year, they're going to have to come up
with things. So that's definitely, I'm sure
you know, on their radar and hopefully on the road map for
future updates. Yeah, I always would have loved
to have talking about the the Old Oak Forest you have

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something like that with a smallclearing in there.
Make this like a 1% chance of finding it.
Super rare quote UN quote structure where you find a sword
in a stone. It's a fully enchanted like
another right sword that you canjust find.
You don't have to do any enchanting or anything.
Finding tools and treasures likethat would be very cool to me.

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Alright guys, this time for yourcreator class.
Your choices were classic 3D texture pack.

(29:24):
I've already being Carl went over had to say this Alcritti,
Alecritti, Alecritti yeah Alecritti texture pack and
better default texture pack. And of course the one I struggle
to say 1. The Alecritti texture pack.
I'm super excited to test this one out.
It really does change the way the world looks.

(29:45):
Yeah, it looks super cool. Looks super cool.
I hope I don't have what happened.
Well I shouldn't cuz it's a texture pack.
The last creator clash we were supposed to do named chalker
boxes and I tried for weeks to get that to work and I never
could. So that's why we we never did a
video or anything about it. A live stream.

(30:06):
Yeah, I can't recommend something I couldn't get to
work. I don't know if it was my
computer, that would be the onlything I would change about that
whole situation where to reach out to someone else and have
them try it for me to see if it was just a me thing, but I tried
different versions and. You've had launcher issues and
stuff and things, so yeah, like I rolled back to 119, Not 119,

(30:30):
one or one two, just 119 and I still couldn't get it to work,
even though that version said like if it's just.
Yeah, cool idea. And if you guys can get it to
work, all power to you because it looks like a great thing.
I didn't personally get to try it, yeah.
I have a lot of admin to do overthe last couple of months.
As Carl was telling me before the show, September 1st will be

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a busy day for us. It will indeed, yeah.
A lot of stuff going on. So yeah, texture pack looks
really good as well, so lookout for a stream while it was on
social media to find all those. Links and stuff because we post
on there when Duds goes live with the create a Clash winner
and also when the video goes up as well.

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Before we hop in, the interview with the lovely Tara Thea
Harris, would you like to go over how to win a?
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and for details of how to enter and full terms and conditions,
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When And that link will also be in the show notes as well.
Sarah, welcome to the show. Thank you so much.
I'm so excited to be here. We're excited too.

(32:23):
We had fun cooking some of your recipes.
We did indeed. Oh my gosh, I can't wait to hear
about what you cooked. Carl's did look infinitely
better than mine, but he cheated.
He chose dessert. Did you bake the cake too?
No, no, no. OK, I did the mushroom burgers
because I'm a huge burger guy. Ooh, that sounds nice.

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The thing is, I'm not a big Mushroom and Onion guy.
What what I want to pick? Yeah, I know, right?
But see, it's not so much the flavoring of mushroomed onions.
Yeah, I'm a texture. I'm a picky eater.
I am the worst. They can get slimy and that's
it. The textures so I made.

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I made it for the most part, so let's let's just jump into it.
So I did everything by the book except for just a couple things.
One, I could not find the truffle salt as much as I looked
for it, couldn't find it and instead of cooking it, was it on
the skillet. I marinated the meat for like
hours and then did it on the grill.

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Good choice. It tasted so good.
And like I didn't. I didn't top it with mushrooms
or onions or anything like that,just let it marinate in the
meat, there in the juices. And then I grilled it.
It was so good the the spread wemade at the end, what is?
Oh, that garlic aioli, Yes. Yeah, that is probably my

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favorite part. Yeah, that sounds good.
It was so good. I have pictures, Carl.
I didn't forget to send pictures.
Well, I forgot to send them, butI did take them.
Nice. I was stuffed.
I ended up eating two burgers inone sitting and I went.
That was stupid. That was.
And they're big burgers. Wow.
Yeah, I was like that. That was too much food.
But I was so delicious. Very nice, very nice.

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I was very happy because at first I was talking to you about
doing the chicken sandwiches andthen I was like, no, no, no.
I mean, I might not like mushrooms and onions, but I can
make this work. Those are both good choices.
They're both, like, reminiscent of, you know, the nice big
American diner sandwiches you'llget, yes?
Really big chicken sandwich or areally big juicy burger?

(34:32):
Diners are like, my favorite places to go.
Yeah, I'm not a big restaurant guy or whatever, but you'd want
to take me to a hole in the walldiner, yeah?
Yeah, the greasier, the dirtier,the better it adds flavor.
Yes, I love it. Carl, do you want to go or do
you want to save you flash and start asking some questions?
I'll go, I'll go go for it. So I made free things.

(34:56):
Wow, overchiever. I made two of the drinks.
And the Minecraft cake, of course.
Oh, OK. Of course I made the cake.
That's a good one. That's a good one.
I also made survived the night soda pop.
Which is an espresso soda. Oh yes, I love my coffee.

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So that was, that was a good one.
That'll keep you up. And today I had the potion of
the turtle master. Oh yeah.
That is so, so nice. My roommate saw the potion of
the turtle master and he was like, you didn't make that.
Yeah. No, I'm not making what you
want. I'm making what I want.

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Well, who doesn't want a chocolate turtle milkshake?
Yeah. Yeah, the pecans are so good in
that, like it really makes it. But the the cake was awesome as
well as I was saying just beforewe started recording.
As most of our listers probably know, I'm from the UK, so when
it says 2 cups of something, I'mlike you and your leaders.

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So we, we do have a conversion chart at the beginning of the
book. Yep.
And originally when I was creating these recipes, I did
the conversions in the recipes as well.
But as we were going through, wewere realizing, like, just in
case, you know, my bedroom was alittle bit off or anything like
that, we'd rather have people converted themselves.

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But the cake? That is a bold thing to make
while having to do conversions, because when you're baking you
have to be pretty precise. So props to you for doing that.
And this is the first time I baked a cake.
Ever. From scratch anyway.
Wow. And you had to convert and it
turned out. It came out beautifully.
That's a big thing. Well, Congrats to you.

(36:44):
Thank you. This is one of the reasons we
stand by this book because Carl and I don't cook.
We're very you need me to make an omelet, I can do some
breakfast for you. Carl is definitely in the same
boat. But the fact that we were able
to follow these recipes and makesome good stuff.
That makes my heart so happy. One of my big I guess like

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motivations for for making thesebooks.
This Minecraft book. I I didn't unofficial my craft
book years before this one. I've done a couple other fan of
dinner based cookbooks. It's to help people learn how to
cook and get excited about cooking.
I I want to be able to to bring people in who don't know how to
cook but might be a huge fan of Minecraft.
And you know, they don't normally want to make dinner,

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but they see something that theythey know from the game and they
want to try it out, kind of get better excited.
And start that passion. So the fact you all were able to
follow along with recipes and make something great, how we say
so happy? Yeah, a really, if you enjoy
something and it can help you toenjoy something else, like enjoy

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Minecraft, and then help you to enjoy cooking as well, yeah,
that's a really great way to getinto something new is to have it
with something you already like.So it's a really, really good
book. There's there's so many things
in there that I still want to make.
I want to make the Warped Forestflatbread pizza.
Yeah, that looked good. I want to make the Firestar

(38:08):
cookies. Yeah, I I make quite a lot of
like rubs as well, you know, like different spices and stuff
as well for like steaks and things.
Yeah. So the Redstone Dust Rub is
going to be on my next on my list.
Ohh awesome. This doesn't stop here.
That's so exciting. What about you Dods?

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What other ones were you lookingat?
I took a bunch of pictures of recipes on my phone.
So when I'm in the grocery store, I can just kind of look
at that and pick some stuff out.But my phone is dead, so it's on
the charger. Nice.
This does segue into one of our first questions is like, how did
you figure out like, hey, I wanna do cooking, chefing,

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create recipes? Like, did you just kind of
stumble into it or from a child?Like this is what you knew you
were gonna be. Yeah.
I I did some cooking as a child.Both my parents were were pretty
into cooking. My mom did a lot of the daytoday
cooking. My dad did a lot of like the
baking and the grilling. So I got to see it as I was
growing up. But I really got into it Coming

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out of college, I started a blogcalled The Geeky Hostess, which
is still up. I just don't update it as often.
And I served that blog because Iwanted to teach myself how to
cook more. I wanted to become a better
entertainer and host for parties.
And I thought if I put it online, it would hold myself
accountable. And I wanted to kind of do it
with a geeky span. I wanted to see if I could make

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things from my favorite games and TV shows and if movies and
books and kind of found this little.
There's, you know, a few of us that that had blogs like that.
And I was doing that for years. And a few years ago, I was
reached out to by publisher who's interested in doing the
Unofficial Minecraft Cookbook. And at that point I was working

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for Xbox, So I was around Minecraft a lot, was getting
kind of bigger in the gaming community, and I really loved
the idea of what they want to dowith the book.
They wanted to target kids. I want to say it's mostly like 8
to 10 year old kids and kind of do some more basic recipes,
things that they could do eitherby themselves or with a little
bit of help from a grow up in the kitchen.

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But have it be all based on Minecraft, So that one hits a
lot of the basic foods. Like any food item in Minecraft,
you're going to find it in there.
You're going to find out a big potato recipe and a pork chop
recipe and some basics there. And from there I reached out to
some other publishers about other books I was interested in
creating. I did a Broadway, like a

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Broadway musical themed cookbook.
I did the Official Tomb Reader Cookbook and then my publishers
approached me and asked if I wanted to do an official
Minecraft cookbook and it felt so full circle and so exciting
after starting with the unofficial 1, to be able to to
actually work with Mojang and create something really special.

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So this one, the official Minecraft cookbook, they wanted
it to be a bit more elevated in their words.
They they wanted it to be a little more creative, a little
bit more complex of recipes, things that would target adults
who maybe started playing the game when they're younger and
and felt nostalgic about Minecraft or people who are
currently playing it. So that's kind of the the
inspiration for the specific book and because I've been

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creating a geeky recipes for forso long now, I kind of whenever
I watch or interact with anything or sit down and play
some Minecraft, everything I seeI my brain translates it into
food. Like you're like could this
block be something edible? What could this look like?
Could this word be a pun for something that exists in the

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edible realm? See, that's like a perfect,
perfect mirror for us, cuz me and Carl will be walking around
and be like, can I build that building in Minecraft?
Yeah, exactly. So when I play Minecraft, I go.
Can't I eat that? Well, no.
I mean, I do that too. Yeah.
So that that's really how it gotstarted.

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But I mean, I I am self trained,I'm a home cook.
Awesome. I think because of that I'm able
to come at these recipes in a little bit more of an
approachable way for folks who haven't been cooked before.
And my big goal is that anyone anywhere can sit down and take a
look at these recipes, be able to find most of the ingredients
in our local store and be able to sit down without a whole lot

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of special equipment. So you don't need instant pots
or smokers or or grills or or things like that.
Can just be you with, you know, a stove and a microwave and make
these recipes as we discussed a little bit before we started
recording. But not all these ingredients
were easy free for you all the time.
I'm based in Seattle, WA in the US, so there's certain things

(42:54):
that might feel common to me that art as Covent everywhere
else. And I'm still kind of learning,
you know, what other countries might have versus the US for
some ingredients. But I've always learned, and
it's kind of fascinating to findthose little differences so.
It also helps, like you said, you weren't making this cookbook
for classically trained shift. It's for the average person, so

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it translates well. It's like, well, I don't have
this. Can I substitute something or
can I go without? And can I manipulate this recipe
to fit with what I have? And obviously it works because
Carl and I are no special. And my burgers were pretty darn
good. My cake was gorgeous.

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I love it. And that's something that I
really want to encourage people to do, especially with a
Minecraft cookbook. I mean, in Minecraft you do this
all the time. You you see a tutorial and you
start to build something yourself and you you change it
to fit what you need and what you want.
That's exactly how I looked at it.
I looked at it as if I was building something.
Yeah. And that's what I want you to

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do. For me, this whole thing is
creative mode. You just go in and you create
what makes you happy. You adjust for the time and for
for what works for you. And that's something that can
give you a lot of confidence. What's you, what's you go
through a couple recipes, you learn the basic, you can start
figuring out what it is you can't adjust and what you can
play with. But I have a few recipes like
inventory bread, like suspiciousStew, I think even the the

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flower Forest Green that give you options as well saying you
know you can use any of these types of grains, yeah, any of
these spices or these flowers toreally make it your own.
When Mojang approached you did they just like here's a list of
all of our edible items in the game make recipes or was there
like an already like hey we really want to focus on pork

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chops since that was a recent update or something like that.
It's a little bit of everything.They did give me a list of all
over the available items in the game.
They did give me a couple hints on some updates that were coming
out before the book would be out.
And then it was it was me sitting down with the Minecraft
wiki for for a lot of it, kind of looking at you know what are

(45:06):
maybe some some blocks since I'mpotion.
You know some names of items that that I can kind of turn
into something. A lot of sitting in with my
friends and playing Minecraft and just kind of exploring and
walking around and seeing what looked interesting to me.
Some of them were pretty easy. I mean something like a
mushroom. You're like, yeah, I'm gonna do
beef, I'm gonna do mushroom. This is gonna make sense.

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And then some of them were kind of deep cut, like the what did I
end up calling it? The chicken jockey sandwiches
where you know it, it's supposedto be like the the psalmified
Pigland. So I've got, you know, chicken
with pesto to make feel it's omified.
We've got the bacon for the Pigland.
You know, you're incorporating all these little elements to
kind of make a little inner joke, but it's mix of

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everything. We we didn't want to do any of
the basics that I'd really hit on in the previous book.
So we did stay away from a lot of the basics, but we did hit
some basics. I have a kebab recipe that
incorporate pork, beef and chicken to kind of represent all
of the. Yeah, that one looked good.
The mobs that you see in the farmland or the plains, yeah,

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But for me, it's all about just kind of letting my mind water,
getting creative with it. I've got a buried treasure pie,
which is a breaded salmon dish, because when you get buried
treasure or you get a treasure check, there's a chance that you
have salmon inside of it. So I thought, why not do
something with it? Yeah.
Very cool, very cool. So how long did it take from the

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initial list being given to you by Mo Jang, to you having a list
of recipes? And was that a long time?
Was it a few months? How long was that?
Kind of over? Yeah.
I would say the initial list where I'm just really walking
through and saying I want to do this, this, this and this before
I fully write out the recipes. That probably takes about a
month. It's going through.

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It's, it's listing all of the things that I could think of
right away. And then you take a look at that
list and say, OK, to make this an excellent cookbook, you know,
we want to balance out the appetizers and the dessert and
the entrees and the drinks. So what do we need more or less?
I always end up brainstorming more desserts than anything
else. I have a big sweet tooth.
So I usually have to, you know, take some those back.

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I went straight for the desserts.
Perfect. And it's so easy for Minecraft
too. You've got the cake, you've got
the cookies there. There are so many options there.
Plus, you know, if you're looking at anything square buds,
brownies, yeah, Blondie is. All of those things just just
work so well. Definitely.
But yeah, so it was about a month to put together that full
list that was, you know, evened out with all the different types

(47:37):
of food. That goes off to my publisher.
It goes to Mojang, it gets all of their approval.
Then comes the the much longer period, which is actually
writing the recipes and testing all the recipes.
And that honestly probably took about or between 4:00 to six
months, a lot of back and forth at that point.
That's when you know I'll find out that something doesn't work
and go back and come up with a new idea, things like that.

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Do you have a favorite go to ingredient in your recipes?
Oh, that is a really good question.
Because I find myself doing thisa lot.
Every time I go to make something, it's like, yeah,
that'd be good, but if I add this, it'll be better.
I mean, I have a few of those for my own cooking, for my own
cooking. You can never have enough
garlic. Very true.
I will always add way more garlic if I'm ever looking for

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just like a quick seasoning. I've been doing a lot of
everything bagel seasoning. I don't know if that's as
popular outside of the US, but that's been really big here
lately. Never heard of it?
Really. No British.
Oh my goodness. Although I don't really cook so
it could be that. So everything bagels are bagels
that have like sesame seeds, poppy seeds, garlic, onion,

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salt, black pepper. I think those are the main map
outside but it's all on top of abagel.
So people have found recently that the seasoning alone is
fantastic. I love to use it on eggs when
I'm cooking so that's like my goto for for breakfast.
So those are my big seasonings right now.
But when I creating recipes I have a few ingredients that are
kind of my like trick ingredients that I'll bring out

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to add some pizza. One of them being pop rocks
which are harder to find these days.
But there are a couple of recipes in here that use those.
The tan tea and the fireworks cookies both use that.
And then there's butterfly pea flower is up the yeah, I think
it's butterfly pea flower, whichis a type of of dried flour that

(49:26):
people use for tea. But it does this very cool thing
where it starts off blue, but ifyou add a citrus to it, it will
turn purple. I use that in a lot of my
cookbooks to, you know, there needs to be a potion or some
sort of magical changing elementthat's usually kind of a fun
party trick. It doesn't taste like a whole
lot, but it just looks beautiful.
That's really cool. And then sugar and flour.

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The classics, the basics. Yeah, a lot of butter.
Yeah, as a Southerner I have butter.
And I must say this wrong because words are hard.
But Creole? Oh, like I put that on
everything. Everything spicy nice.
Getting back to the book, is there a certain recipe that was
your favorite, whether it was creating, coming up with or just

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like when you did that final Test taste test, you're like
yeah, that that's one of my tops.
I have soap there. My gosh, I was like, which also
I want to talk about. I'd say one of the ones I was
really proud of and whatever I pass passed by the picture of
the book. I always smile is the back look
truffle because I saw you know amagnet cream and I'm like this
this can be something and I had the idea of what let's do this

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white chocolate mango truffle. We'll add a little bit of to
Hain to it. We we try to avoid brand names
in the book so we call it a store bought blend of Chili
Peppers lime and salt. But to Hain is is what we're
fencing. Yeah, I I made that into the
this truffle where you kind of like you add food coloring as
you're dipping it and if you do it correctly, it looks like a

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magnet cream. It has a little bit of heat from
that to he and just it tastes delicious.
It looks beautiful. That was when I was really
excited about. But I'd say one of the recipes
that I have gone back and made so many times from this book is
actually one of the the ones that is shown on the cover flap
and that is suspicious Stew thatI've seen a lot of people make

(51:14):
this recipe as well, which really surprised me because it's
a lentil Stew. It's a vegan lentil Stew.
It's there's nothing like super,it's hating about it, but it's a
really, really good party healthy dish.
So it's going to be what am I goto dishes I'm making in the
fall. It's great for like meal
prepping. You can make it at the beginning

(51:36):
of the week and eat it for a couple lunches and it's
customizable. My thought when making it is
that the greens you put into it at the end, depending on which
green you put in, would be the the effect you would give
yourself. Sam was how suspicious to in
game can you know could change its effects.
So you know if you're using spinach or kale or or collard

(51:58):
greens or whatever you use you know they all have different
vitamins so they're all giving you a little bit of a different
effect. So I just kind of like geek out
about those little details that really make it feel more
immersive and pick you feel likeyou're and the game.
But above all, the fact that I made something that, you know,
I'm seeing so many people make as their first recipe out of the
book, and it legitimately just avery healthy vegan dish.

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I actually have that one bookmarked.
I'm one of those people winning summertime.
It's hot all the time. I don't like warm meals when I'm
yeah, hot and sweaty all day. Burgers being like an exception
because it's a cookout meal. It's a weekend, yeah, you're
grilling it. But I have that tabbed for when
it starts getting cooler in October and stuff.
It's like I'm making that. Yeah, definitely.

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Yeah. That's a perfect fall dish.
Another recipe I was really proud of is the inventory bread,
and I've seen a few folks make this as well.
For those who haven't seen it, it essentially it's like a
monkey bread. If people have that rocky bread
before it. It's a giant thing of bread, but
it has a bunch of smaller piecesthat you can pull apart, pull
off. But this one is it's all little
mini cubes and you bake it together to a big square.

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Each cube has a different seasoning on top of it to
represent different types of blocks that you would have a
game. And it's another one where I had
the idea in my head. I had seen anything like it
before. There are plenty of sweet monkey
bread recipes. I had never seen a savory one
and I was like, let's just try it, let's see if this works.
And it did. It looks beautiful.
It's definitely one of those things that you you make for,

(53:25):
you know, a party because it looks very cool.
There's a little bit of something different for
everyone. It's very easy to just pull
apart the blocks to eat it. I get so excited when you know
the wild ideas end up working out and I'm able to actually
translate it to a recipe. Yeah, yeah, I had.
I had this weird idea when I wasdoing the mushroom burgers, The
sauce. I was talking about this, I'd

(53:45):
say sauce. The spread that I made at the
end, I was like, this might taste really good with some
sliced cucumbers. Oh, I would have never thought
to put cucumbers on a burger, but this sounds like it would be
good. Such a good idea.
Yeah. And again, that that spread is a
is a garlic aioli. It's one of those things where

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it's so simple, but it really elevates a burger.
Yeah. I mean, if you normally just put
mayonnaise on a burger, like just add a little bit of garlic,
a little bit of salt, I think this one has like a dash of
lemon juice in it and it feels very fancy.
And yeah, I mean, if you're looking at something like a
cucumber sandwich, like a tea sandwich, which normally is just
kind of like a either mayonnaiseor pan cheese and a cucumber,

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you could use this instead. Yeah.
Really elevate it. I've made an.
Extra bigger cup of it that I'vebeen spreading on my sandwiches
before I go to work. Yeah, nice that it has been one
of my favorite things. I'm not.
Again, I'm a picky ear. I'm not a big mayonnaise person.
I don't put mayonnaise on anything, but this was worth it.
Aioli hits different. Yes, it doesn't have that that

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super hard Tang. It's a sweet Tang.
Uh huh. Which is what I liked.
Yeah, yeah. I've had it on a few things in
the past. It's so, so nice.
And now I'd love to ask a question about the cake.
Go on. So this was.
Go on. This is our interview.
Well, that was kind of difficultto create the recipe for
because, you know, it's the cake.

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I mean it. It's this iconic thing.
I knew that this was the official Minecraft book book.
So it felt like a very big responsibility, mostly to figure
out what type of cake it would be.
I had pulled a bunch of my friends about, you know, when
you think of the Minecraft cake,what flavor is it?
Is it chocolate? Is a vanilla?
Is it something else? And everybody had a different
answer. So I would, I would love to hear
what both of you like, just looking at the cake, the actual

(55:33):
cake and game, what you would expect that flavor to be.
I always expected it to be carrot cake with vanilla icing,
OK. I don't know why, but I always
thought it was Strawberry Awesome.
I mean, that works out well. That's similar to what I did for
the book. Yeah, yeah.
I always thought you'd peel it back and it'd be like red
underneath, you know, like strawberry colored underneath.

(55:56):
You're not alone. I had some friends say the same
thing. Yeah, one friend thought it
would be a cherry. Vanilla.
I think another one thought red velvet.
So a couple people were reflecting the same thing.
I never thought like the Minecraft cake is just so iconic
and so such a such a big when you think of food in Minecraft,
it's one of the first things yougo to.
I happened to cook a recipe for that.

(56:18):
Yeah, in the official Minecraft cook, but that's a lot of
responsibility. It really is.
And I still, I look at it, I'm proud of it.
But still, I'm like, did I, did I pick the flavors right?
It's just for those who haven't seen it, I did a vanilla cake
kind of like a your typical likeyellow vanilla cake with a layer
of strawberry puree and a buttercream frosting.

(56:39):
Just because I'm a huge buttercream fan and I want to
kind of feel like a, you know, that fresh, like strawberry
shortcakey kind of feel. But whipped cream frosting is a
little bit more difficult to use, especially if you're also
using fondant like this uses. So buttercream is a little bit
more stable which is why we we chose that and then yeah,
fondant and strawberries and I think the strawberry really came

(57:00):
from from trying to decide what the, the top decoration of the
cake was. Yeah, what I could do to to make
those little squares that in thegame might represent.
Sprinkles might be something else but strawberries just seem
to be the the easy way to go, definitely.
But yeah, it's definitely partial because I I really enjoy
like vanilla and fruity cake though.
Kind of with it. Yeah, with the the butter, cream

(57:22):
and everything and the strawberries, it was definitely
a good mix of flavors. When you, you know, you cut a
slice off, you know, obviously Iwas, I was getting the the
strawberry right in the middle so it looked like a little tiny
cake when I was having a slice of it as well.
Proper minecrafty the cake within a cake.
A cake within a cake. Yeah.
Each time I had it, it was just like this is, this is awesome.

(57:44):
So really good job on that. Really good job.
Well, good job to you. Carl, I'm assuming my piece is
in the mail. No, I all of it.
Oh yeah, of course you would. It's called research.
You've got to make sure every yeah yeah, taste of it is good.
What if the final bit was horrible?
You know, you've got to know these things.
There you go. Luckily it wasn't.

(58:06):
But you know, you gotta do the research.
I see how it is. I just make my own cake.
Where's my burger? In the mail, I told you this.
Oh no, don't eat that. Could I get a FedEx box next
week with burger? No, no.
Pretty sure costumes would stop that from going.
Probably. I'm pretty sure I just paid your

(58:27):
newspaper delivery board to throw it at your window.
That explains a lot. No, I ate all those burgers.
I I made them Saturday for lunch.
I had two for lunch. Didn't eat dinner because I was
too full. Ate them again Sunday for lunch.
So I had four burgers in two days and I was just like, that
was dumb. It's impressive.
Like, I was it, yeah, I was in afood coma all week.

(58:52):
Oh, it was. But it was so good.
And like I said, I've been putting that spread on every
sandwich. So basically since Saturday,
there's been some part of that recipe I've been eating on a
daily basis. I love it.
And see you just thought you were going to make one red of
recipe. Yeah, it said You found a new
cooking technique that you can use every day.

(59:13):
I go up to everyone like you. Look how fancy I am.
You see this? See the spread?
You eat your tomato sandwich. Yeah, we do that, go inside
editions of set as this cook, but we've got to make one for
the interview and then we go, oh, we want this as well, we
want this to, we want that. Yeah, when Carl came to me is
like, hey, they want to send us a cookbook and we need to make
some recipes. We just can't interview someone

(59:34):
without making some as I was scared to death because I am not
anywhere near cook level anything.
Like I said, I can make you breakfast items out the wazoo
but other than that that's all Igot.
But it was an easy experience other than trying to find some
of the stuff. Like we said, the truffle.

(59:55):
The truffle salt was hard to find and I had to Google some of
the words cuz I had no clue whatthey were.
Fondant is called Ready to Roll icing in the UK.
Oh, that's great to know. And powdered sugar is called
icing sugar. Sometimes confectioner sugar as
well. Yeah, that's just an easy Google
though. You just can't go what it is
ago. What's this in the UK?

(01:00:17):
And it comes up. So it's all good.
It's all good. That's how I kind of was in the
store. I was like, is there any
substitutes for this? And I was able to do my stuff
and it was so good. Yeah, all the recipes seem very
malleable, like, yeah, you can change in ingredients and stuff
and it still works really well, so.
Absolutely, and I've had to do the same thing when I was

(01:00:38):
writing at the To Reader Cookbook.
That one, all of the food is based off of every location Lara
Croft has ever been in any per game.
So it's really like a cookbook of worldwide recipes.
And so a lot of it was me finding it's really authentic
recipes from different countriesand having to figure out like,
do we have that ingredient in the United States or what could

(01:00:59):
I substitute that for? Yeah, yeah.
I've done my fair share as well.Nice.
Yeah, it was a great experience for me.
The prep time and cook time was very much extended.
As someone who's not used to being in the kitchen, the 20
minute prep time turned into about an hour.
OK, I was OK you know, because the cake says one to two hours

(01:01:21):
and I did it in 2 1/2. OK.
Yeah. OK.
So you run on. Yeah, that's not bad.
And yeah, that's I always feel alittle, a little iffy what the
publishers do want me to includethose prep times and cook times,
because it really is so subjective, yeah.
You know, I can do my best estimate, but I also know that I
am making the recipe that I wrote, so it's going to go a
little bit quicker for me. You know, depending on how hot

(01:01:43):
or cold it is outside, depends on how long it's going to take
for your oven to Preheat or how long until your pan will get
hot. I mean, everything is a little
bit different. Yeah, if I were to do it again,
I could probably do it in 30 minutes.
But for the first time, awesome.Yeah, I wanted to make sure I
didn't. Messed anything up and I
followed the book as closely as possible, because we're talking
about the book, not duds. Made some burgers.

(01:02:06):
So yeah, exactly. Yeah, I enjoyed it.
It was very fun for me. It was new territory, so it was
scary. And then that first bite, I'm
like, please don't mess it up. And it was delicious.
Oh, I'm so happy to hear that. Awesome, awesome.
We'll we'll post some pictures of what we've made on our

(01:02:26):
Instagram as well for everyone listening.
Once this episode goes up, I'll post those on and yeah, you can
see what we made. Yes.
Anything else that's? I think that's it.
Do you wanna go ahead and plug some socials that you might have
where people can find you and such?
Yeah. Or new books coming up maybe?
Or new books coming up. Well, I have another book coming

(01:02:48):
out, spring of 2024, but it has not been announced yet, but it's
real good. So very, very excited please.
It's gonna be a really good one.So definitely follow me out of
social to find out more information about that.
Most places I am Terra, Theo Harris, TARATHEOHARISI Want to

(01:03:10):
say on Instagram I'm still E Terra.
Sometimes it's complicated to change your names.
Yeah, but if you search for Terra, Theo Harris, you'll find
me there. If anyone does pick up the book,
please tag me and your pictures.Shoot me a you know, a DM and
let me know what you think. I get so excited when I see
people making these recipes. I've also always available in

(01:03:32):
social if you have questions. If you're in the kitchen making
something and you need to find asubstitution or something's not
turning out right, you want someone to help troubleshoot,
Reach out to me. Cool.
Awesome. We'll definitely tag you in our
pitches as well so you can see all the stuff that we made when
we when this episode goes up as well.
Oh, perfect. Awesome.
Well, thank you very much for joining us.

(01:03:52):
Thank you so much. Thank you so much for having me.
This was so much fun. Absolute pleasure.
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Carl, you're supposed to introduce her, Man, I know it
was way good, he said. Geez man, this is going at the
end of the show now. I was gonna say you just wanted
a clip for the end of the show. I just wanted a clip.
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