October 7, 2024 • 47 mins
In this live episode, DuDs and Carl are joined by Orbitzz from InsideMC and Charlie from CubedCon on the Main Stage at Cubed! 2024 to discuss podcasting in Minecraft. Including growing a podcast and brand, the future of Minecraft as a medium, and creator outreach.
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Episode Transcript
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Hello everybody, welcome back tothe Mainstage at Cubed 2024.
I am here with the wonderful people from Inside MC and the
Withering Effect podcast. Take it away, guys.
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Hey everyone, welcome to the Withering Effect episode 183,
recorded live on the Mainstage at Cubed 2024.
Today's date is Sunday, October 6th, 2024.
And I am duds or duds versus known to the rest of the
interweb. And I'm Carl, you may know me as
Carl Rides. And I'm Orbitz from inside MC.
And I'm Charlie from Cube Con. Today, it's the podcast
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crossover you've all been waiting for.
It's inside MC and The WitheringEffect coming together for a
Cube podcast special discussing all things podcasting in
Minecraft. And for our first section today,
we have growing a podcast and a brand.
So I think we should start with inside MC on this one.
Oh, hello. So I'm doing, I'm doing a
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classic thing today of, of speaking when I'm spoken to.
No way I don't get too confused or overspeak.
Let's go for it. Sorry, I guess what?
So you want me to talk first or would you rather me ask you?
A question for it, like how did you guys like build the inside
MC brand just briefly? Oh, so I started off like about
2 1/2 years ago now, give or take.
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And it wasn't like it was, it was quite consistent at the
time. But then after about like a
month or two, I ended up stopping because I had to do a
night shift job. And then I bought a bag last
year and it took partial luck, like all things do.
I think a lot of time if you go to a crater, a lot of it will be
very, very lucky. But at the same time, it just
came down to consistency. Like I was mentioning to people
(02:00):
yesterday, like in conversation that midweek MC and inside MC
was being uploaded twice a week for an entire year straight.
And for the last two weeks, I just don't know what to do with
myself because I am only uploading one once a week now.
So it's kind of broken out of this habit of consistently
uploading these podcasts to. I have so much time that's just
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consistency, work ethic and partial luck with getting people
on or just having people find out that you exist.
Yeah, definitely with us, it waskind of like, it's a similar
kind of story. Like for the first four years we
were doing weekly episodes and with the pandemic and stuff like
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when we started in June of 2019,once we'd got to 2020 and
lockdown started happening around the world, like our
numbers just kept growing and growing and growing as people
had more time to like find, you know, new interests and stuff.
Like they were finding new Youtubers, they were off, they
were looking at they will find anew podcast they were listening
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to. And that really kind of helped
us to take our little podcast towhat it is today.
I mean, we've been at cubed three Times Now, first year on
the outdoor stage, last year on the community stage and this
time at the wonderful brand new mainstage at the new convention
centre. And this is your.
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First time being on stream as all.
Right, first time being on the Cube stream.
We did our own streams last yearand the year before, but we were
consistent, as I say, for the first four years, weekly
episodes. We were producing Patreon
content every week as well, but we've had a couple of Co host
changes. I'm not supposed to be the
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dedicated Co host, I'm supposed to be the producer.
So but it's just kind of happened that we haven't really
found the right person to replace Jimbo.
But we kind of all of our lives sort of got busier in the past
year. We've worked and everything like
that. So we've sort of we we put it
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back to monthly and we haven't been the best consistent at that
either. But we are trying like this
month for example, in the last like month in the last four
weeks, we would have produced free podcast episodes.
So I think we've kind of made-upfor the two we've missed earlier
in the year. So yeah, building, building the
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brand was also kind of interesting.
We, we used to be on a server called the Ripple effect and
that's where the withering effect came from.
It kind of morphed from that. So it means that we kind of had
that audience, although it was asmall audience, it was one that
was really. Dedicated.
Yeah, dedicated to us and and wecould build on that.
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So we had a baseline of of listeners for the podcast
already and that meant that Spotify and Apple and that was
seeing that we were getting listens from day one.
There was no episodes where we had zero lessons.
It was starting. I think the first episode
started in the first couple of days with like 50 listeners like
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the first two days and then it just rolled from there.
I also think like the way we do our marketing in terms of like
our podcast and that we have ourfaces on there because we want
it to be less of a news show andmore of like friends talking
together about Minecraft. I think Duds, you kind of like
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wanted that to be what the show was about originally, didn't
you? Yeah.
So originally it kind of was a news show.
There was a lot to talk about that was new in the Minecraft
world. Their updates were coming fast
and large. And that's that's what we did
because we thought that's what people want to listen to.
But from the get go, I just wanted it to be people sitting
around talking about Minecraft, not so much reporting about
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Minecraft. And I think you can see that
with a lot of our guests that wehave on.
There's a huge range and there'salways a underlying love for
Minecraft in it. Definitely, yeah.
We've had people, we've had Bojang developers on, we've had
people from Hermit Craft, we've had Logical Geek Boy.
So many people like the list is the list is brilliant, like the
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people we've. Had on we were just talking
about this last night. One of our favorite guests was
oh I can't believe I'm blanking on her name, but they did a
cookbook. The Minecraft official cookbook,
Yeah. Yes, that was such a fun.
I I can't believe I'm. I'm going to attempt my name.
Carry on. Yeah, it's it's one of those
things I don't do well with testing, so putting me on a
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stage and forcing me to rememberthings I'm going to forget.
But yeah, just talking about thecookbook and how you're going
from real food to video game food and making them taste well.
Carl and I even were making someof the recipes at home and it
was a lot of fun. Definitely.
Yeah. Sorry, I'm still trying to find
the name. Go for it, Orbitz.
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While while you look for that, Iwas going to say that like I, I
mean, I'll be transparent as much as I can here.
Well, I will be transparent. I know you guys won't mind this.
For instance, I didn't know whatthe weather effect was before
cubes con last year. I found out what cubes Con was.
I had NAFE on the podcast, whichis really, really cool.
They came on after, but like, soI went around looked at stuff
and then I found withering effect did a little bit of a
look into. I was like, Oh my God, this is
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this is a podcast. This is so sick.
I love podcasts. What So I found out who you guys
were. And funny enough, one of the
cookbook, the cookbook 1 was oneof the first ones I listened to
because I was just giving like alittle scroll through the
content that you guys made. I was like, oh, this one's
really interesting. So, you know, it's, it's kind of
cool. Like with the whole, you know,
part, like where I kind of referto what I said earlier with the
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whole probing and then getting people on when I was sitting
down and doing this. Because a year ago we reached
out to each other and was like, what if we did a podcast
together sometime and then that never happened until right now.
Yeah. Like we've been planning this
crossover for like a year now. We, we've been attempting, yeah,
we've been attempting to like, do this for ages.
And we were. And like a few months ago when
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Cubed announced the date, we kind of went right.
It's either we do it now or it'snever going to happen.
So that's why we reached out. It's Tara, by the way, who
produced the cupboard. Tara, that's right.
Yeah, that's right. One, the big thing is we work 40
hour week jobs like we have reallife.
Outside of this, we're not able to be the full time content
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creators everyone wants to be. Yeah.
So finding time to fit this intobusy schedules is extremely
hard. Yeah, I think that's kind of the
thing to anyone out there who's like thinking about podcasting,
try and pick or even YouTube tryand pick a schedule that works
around your life. If you pick a schedule that's
too intense, you're going to be burnt out, you're going to give
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up. Like we, we made the decision to
change our schedule because we knew that we couldn't keep up
with the current schedule that we had.
And we we'd rather be as consistent as we can and produce
less episodes than try and say we're a weekly show and it
ending up every month anyway. We'd rather be transparent about
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that. And I think if you talk to your
audience about what's happening,you know, our audience knows,
you know, we have jobs and stufflike that and what we what we do
to a degree. And I think if you're
transparent with them like that,that they really like respect
you more and kind of, you know, understand like why the change
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was made in the first place. Kind of like linking into that,
well, fully linking into that isa alongside having a job and
stuff as well. It's also, I mean, Tommy in a
made a video about this what yesterday, 2 days ago.
YouTube has just changed a bunchand a bunch anyways.
And having someone, getting someone to listen to a podcast
for so long and even for everyone who's listening live
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right now, like it's tough to keep people engaged.
And it's and with what you guys do, and I'm going to speak on my
behalf here and you guys can grow if you want to.
We have our jobs that kind of earn us the income and you know,
has us let us live a life. And then we have the podcast.
It is our thing that we enjoy doing on the side.
And it's like it takes a lot of time because I was talking to
you last night, Carl, and I knowwhen it comes to editing, you do
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so much in depth editing on yourpodcast.
It's too much recorded, then it's cut up and it takes ages.
With me, for example, it's aboutscheduling, then you record and
then I cut out all the silent parts.
If anything's misspoke, which isI've never done a live podcast
before. This is completely new to me.
So I can't just, if I stutter orgo, I can't cut it out, but
editing I can. I can just get rid of that and
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make myself look like the most perfect speaker.
So it kind of comes down to thatas well.
Time for work, time for family, social life, going out, living
life and then podcast is a lot to manage.
The amount of So's that I removefrom Dodd's audio so so.
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That was a trick. So I had to take a public
speaking class in college for mydegree and I am not good at
public speaking. I I hate it.
I despise it. Which is hilarious being on a
podcast on a stage with lots of people watching.
At at least it's all digital and.
There's so many people in the audience as well.
Guys, thank you for joining us at this stage.
For sure. But yeah, my teacher would say
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instead of, instead of saying, say so or something like that to
because that shows you're carrying on the conversation,
you're not giving up on it. So I did.
I have kind of a perfectionist kind of attitude to like
content. Like, I'll go through an episode
and I'll go, right. I'm, I'm not going to edit this
for 12 hours like I used to in the early days.
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I'm going to do like 3 hours of editing and then five hours
later I'm still there going. Yeah, but this bit's not quite
right. So I think I edited the first
five episodes of the show and I spent maybe an hour Max.
And then Carl was like, hey, if you want, I would love to be
part of the thing and just be inthe background.
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Just edit. That was the I was like, oh,
yeah, great. That that that takes some some
weight off my hands. I just have to plan a show and
be on there and. Welcome.
To the show, Carl. Yeah, like this was supposed to
be a temporary thing. I'm supposed to be pressing
buttons and being like Harrison,just producing.
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Should we move on to our next section?
Yeah, let's move on to the future of Minecraft as a medium.
And this is huge because Minecraft is like reaching into
more than just video game world and stuff.
And even if it, even if you justfocus on the game, it's become
like an art platform. You have YouTube videos and
stuff. You have people what I call
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painting in Minecraft, and it's beautiful.
There's so many like different ways of like being a Minecraft
content creator, Like there's people who we were talking the
other day, duds about people like map makers.
Yeah, I don't know how some people think of that.
Yeah, like the planning that hasto go into a map versus like
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with a base, you can kind of wing it to a degree.
But like when you're creating a map that's like got a story to
it and stuff like being able to like plan all of that out and
get everything you need to make it work.
It's, it's like Cube, they had the murder mystery last night
and you know, that kind of stuffin Minecraft, you know about
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Minecraft. We've had, you know, podcasts,
we have Youtubers, we have PV peers, We have the Cube Grand
Prix they had yesterday where itwas like ice boat racing
challenges. There's so much to do in this
game and it's just amazing to like have this kind of thing as
well where we can all come together and kind of share that
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with each other. And it's really special putting
out there. I'm going to, I'm going to prop
some Channel 64 people here because if you watch some of
those videos, yeah, there's a couple of us that do a, a
standard Let's Play, but there'sa lot of really, really good
storytellers in there. All of those episodes feel like
you're watching short movies andI don't think they get enough
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credit for how very well done they are.
Yeah, we've also got things likeme and Duds have recently
started playing Create and it just shows that like if you're
if you're getting a bit kind of like bored with vanilla, that
there's so many options out there for getting a different
experience from the game. And I think that's why Minecraft
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is like stood the test of time because it's so varied in what
it's what it's got to offer. What do you think?
Orbits? I mean with like, I guess how
Minecraft is going, it's I saw someone refer to it being like
Fortnite, Minecraft, Minecraft, Fortnite.
It's like kind of similar. I think Minecraft as a whole is
just, I mean, it's a sandbox game, right?
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So you can, you can do anything that you want.
One, one thing that when you were mentioning about the
content and stuff you said aboutlike story times and S and PS
and stuff, something that I'm a bit more involved in.
It's like the tournament scene, for example, which even not like
even the tournament scene in Minecraft has grown so much to
the point where I think there's about 5 on today.
There was about 7 on yesterday. I mean, later today for cubes
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con, there's the knot squad gameshow, although that isn't a like
a Minecraft tournament in a sense of eight games played
multiple different teams. It's still a Minecraft event
that's happening. And it's crazy that over the
last night, I haven't been involved in Minecraft for like a
crazy long time, or at least fully involved in it like I am
now. But in my last four years of
being involved in Minecraft, especially the last two years
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being involved in podcast, I've seen Minecraft change not just
the game itself, but the people around it.
And maybe that's just because I've associated myself with more
people that I've found so many different areas of Minecraft
where I thought it was just log on, play survival, get your
armor, beady Dragon, that was it.
But the buildings that people make, the stories that people
tell, the tournaments that people host, like some of it is
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crazy, I guess crazy. And we're not even getting into
the fact that there's a full feature Minecraft movie coming
out. We haven't, I think, an animated
show coming on Netflix. So it's moving past the video
game media. The music for Minecraft is
usually trending on either Spotify or something at some
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point because people just love to listen to Minecraft.
Yeah, like our music that we played at the start and there'll
be an outro at the end as well for you guys on the Cube Con
stream that was made with Minecraft note blocks, you know
it was. Made wonderful decoy.
By Decoy, a music master. Yeah, and it was using the
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weather sounds and like the noteblock sounds.
And there's a video on YouTube from Decoy showing you how we
put it together in Logic. And it's got so many like layers
where he's just layered all the note blocks together and made
that wonderful, like music that you heard at the star and you'll
hear at the end. It's so cool, so good that you
can do that kind of stuff. I love it.
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I love your little the little Jingle.
It's so catchy. He's just like we had like a
Ripple news one. We've had like our Patreon music
is a different set of music, butbased on the same kind of idea.
He's so good to us. He makes us loads of different
music for our like. Yeah, any time I've asked decoy
for your music, he's been like, how much time do I have?
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What do you want it to sound like?
And anytime I've tried to pay him, he turns it down.
He goes, this is this is for thefun of it.
And I always try to credit him as much as possible because he
he created a new song for my create series and I literally
sent him a song from Daft Punk. And I said this, but industrial
and that's all I had to. Well I also said he created my,
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what he calls Chill Pace intro music for Channel 64 and I said
I need the timing to be the samebecause there's like a 10 second
mark cut, a 22nd mark cut and then a 45 second mark cut.
And that's how I do my intros and outros and stuff.
So he took Daft Punk Industrial and that same cut points to
create my create theme music. And the man's a genius, he
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really is. He is, he is.
Should we try and bring Charlie in here?
What do you think about Minecraft?
Charlie, what's your favorite part of Minecraft?
What's your kind of like go to? Is it like PvP, survival,
Redstone, that kind of stuff? She disappeared.
Maybe, yeah. I can't hear Charlie again.
I can't hear. Charlie, maybe it's not working
again. What about if we move on to our
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final section, then about Creator outreach?
This was kind of your kind of department, I think, orbit.
Yes. Is this the one I wanted?
This is the, this is the one that we probably end up.
I mean, we've still got loads oftime, so.
Yeah, yeah. We'll kind of bounce between
them as well, yeah. Yeah, we can always go back.
Yeah, exactly. I think, I think a lot of what
will be said here will kind of link into the last two things
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anyways. Yeah, sure.
Outreach involved like Minecraftgrowing over time or that kind
of jazz. So I guess one thing I wanted to
ask I, I actually want to leave this with a question to you
guys, if that's OK, just to hearyour thoughts on it.
When you obviously, you know, a long time ago you had official
Minecraft people and nowadays you get guests on when you
outreach to a guest to get them on the podcast.
How exactly do you go about doing it for like, it doesn't
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have to be a crazy in depth process, but like, firstly, how
did you get in contact? And secondly, how exactly do you
invite them on free message? I'll start with, whenever I find
someone like, hey, I'd love to have a show with them, whatever.
I just kind of message Carl and be like, Hey, is there any way
we can reach out and talk to this person?
And then from then, I don't knowwhat Carl does.
He works some kind of magic. We we get a lot of no's, like
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we've gotten a lot of no's, but everyone's wrong.
We get a yes, we. Don't get a lot of no's, we get
a lot of of being ignored. We're like, OK, yeah.
That's the difference. We've only Yes, it's still.
A No, we've also take it. We've only officially had one,
no. Yeah, and it but it was the
nicest know of all time. Yeah, it was one I'm not going
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to name who it was, but it was one of the hermit craft people
and they're like, I'm so sorry. I just I my schedule is so
packed, you know we. Just don't have.
But they were they were very kind to reach out and let us
know, hey, I'm not ignoring you.I just that that rocketed them
to the top of my watch list. Every time there's an episode
out now, I try to watch it within the first hour just
because of how kind they were. Yeah.
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In terms of of a guest, it's basically just reaching out,
just explaining who you are, putin some, you know, past guests
that you've had some figures and.
Try to be as professional as possible.
Yeah, and then they come on the show and they meet duds.
Yeah. Yeah, I.
Never want to. I never want to stop recording.
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We burn each other on the show all the time.
I think we have Charlie back. Hello, Charlie.
Welcome. Back.
Slight technical difficulties, but I am back.
Awesome. We were just saying before we
were talking about Minecraft as a medium and we were talking
about like the kind of areas of Minecraft that we like the most.
What's your kind of area? Do you, do you, Did you enjoy
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like the murder mystery last night much?
I did indeed. It was very fun taking part of
it. But I just love how Minecraft is
so creative as a medium that youcan quite literally do anything
in it. You know, like we had a panel
yesterday, people have made likean entire magic SNP that's
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custom made. Yeah.
That's got. Spells and broomsticks and it's
just and a dragon I think I saw as well.
Like not the end of Dragon. Yeah.
Is it red? And it's just absolutely
incredible. It is just fascinating how far
you can actually go in Minecraft.
If you just have a thought, you know, like the Sky's the limit,
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just keep going. Exactly.
It's crazy. Like the amount of stuff that
you guys have done over the years as well on the live
streams, like you've got your donator funds and you had like
the Lego Minecraft thing earlierand as well.
Like there's so much you can do in this game and it's, it's just
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wonderful to see people's creativity.
And that's what we kind of try, I know you guys try and do it
here where you have people on for panels and stuff and talk
about these things. And we try to have guests on
that we think have, you know, not just I play Minecraft on
YouTube, but different things that are a little bit unique.
Cubed Cam has disappeared. It's so huge that.
(22:30):
One that way is not. Hey.
Duds for once, that is not my problem.
I am not the producer. Anytime things go wrong, I go
Carl. I have no control over that.
That's OK, we're back. Yeah, as long as they could
still hear us, I think we're good.
We're all good. We miss you so much, cute Cam.
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Oh cute Cam. You can be my second favorite
walrus. How about that?
Yeah, Q Cam is a walrus. Obney, you've got competition
first. Obney, our good friend Obney is
a walrus as well. We'll have we'll have to bring
the death we'll have to bring him on next year in him and Q
Cam can have a fight we. Can buy way out when God I want
(23:17):
to get the exact right name. Hold up one second it's called
flick Flack. There we go.
I was just making sure I knew that the one we wanted Flick
Flack I. Think that's a very good idea?
We will arrange that battle for 2025.
Definitely the cube battle. Army just gets thrown into this.
He's like, what did I do? I just.
I wasn't even just woke. Up and I've heard that there's
declared war. Should we talk about commitment
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to content creation? Can I quickly touch on the
outreach to guess if? That's yeah.
Go for it, yeah. I was gonna say that I have a
certain strategy. It's not a strategy that I
purposely nailed down. It kind of just happened to
happen. I some of it I kind of mentioned
to you last night and I won't gointo full depth of it because
it's not like this ultimate. I don't want people thinking
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it's like the ultimate way of talking to people.
I like reaching out, but I, I got kind of lucky with guests I
had on in the earlier days. And then I think a lot of the
time because that their content,I was also interested in
interested in the content that they did alongside the critters
that they were around. I think it kind of helped with
getting the other critters on. But a lot of the time my method
is either through e-mail if I really need to or just sending a
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Discord friend request. I think a lot of people don't
realize, and maybe I could be wrong in this, I've talked to
certain guests and they agree with me.
It's like your Discord friends list holds a lot of power.
Yeah. So if you reach out to someone
right in my bio is so my name isinsane Orbits.
I have inside MC in my bio, all my links, they meet inside MC,
some of it podcast, some of the studios.
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And then as soon as you click onmy friends list as I like I have
I have however many mutual friends I have with the other
person I'm trying to reach out to.
And a lot of time they'll acceptme.
A lot of the time I won't get a response from a few people, but
my message is always pretty similar, but also to different
people. So it's like this big paragraph.
Basically, this is who I am. This is what I do.
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This is why I want from you. This is why I want you one and
then just send it off with here.This is about a rough time frame
to do it. I kind of wanted to touch on the
other side of it as well of and I don't I don't know how many
people you've had reach out to come on the withering effect.
I get a lot of good a lot of people reach out to come on
inside MC, which is completely fine.
I'm more than happy for people to reach out and try their luck
because I try my luck with getting guests on yeah, but a
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lot of time I'll get a Twitter DM or so add me on this one.
Send me a DM. Can I be on the podcast and it's
and it's fine. Like it's maybe I'll say yes,
it's very rare. I say yes.
I think a lot of the time I, I say if you're out reaching to be
a part of something, if you wantto physically be on it is a lot
of time I've suggest to people because they've reached out,
they give me their name, they'vegiven me what they do.
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They've given me places to find them if it's not in their
profile. They've given me like, you know,
what they want to talk about on a podcast.
They've given me a rough date when they'll be free.
Like they've been so cooperativein their first message to the
point where I don't have to ask you any questions because you've
given me all the answers as opposed to can I be on the
podcast? And it's just like a long spiral
then of conversation that sometimes takes two or three
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days to get a response, which is, again, it's completely fine.
But chances, at least for me, increase drastically if you've
given me everything I need to know in that first message.
Yeah, we kind of have like an unwritten rule that we don't
usually take people who reach out to us as guests.
We like, we, we look for people who, if, if someone reaches out
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and they have something unique, then we'll, we definitely
consider it. But we kind of like to, to be
the ones to reach out ourselves.We kind of see something special
in someone's like what they're doing in Minecraft and we, we
kind of reach out to them. And we have had some people who
have reached out in the past that we haven't had on for
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whatever reason. But yeah, we, we, we try to be
the ones to reach out first and.We've had a couple that have
reached out that have been on the show also.
Yeah, yeah. So there's been a couple, but we
we kind of like to be the ones to kind of like because, because
we'll see someone and we'll go. This is the kind of show we can
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build with that person. You know, it's not like any
other show we've done before. We, we like to not kind of, we
repeat ourselves too much in thekinds of guests that we have
with the exception, with the exception of, with the exception
of Mojang staff. Like we've had three Java
developers, we've had one dungeons manager.
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And so that's kind of like the outlier, obviously, because it's
Mojang. But like it was also a different
update each time. Yeah.
So they had different things to talk about each time.
I think King B Dogs was like episode 45.
I want to say who Roth was like episode 74, something like that.
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And so there was big gaps between them.
And I think Laura from Dungeons was like 120, something like
that, 100 and episode 120. And so, yeah, we try and make
sure that we kind of have, if wedo have them on, that we have
them at different times. So like Dud says that they've
got different things to talk about from each other and we
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don't we don't like to like havelike we've only had one cookbook
person on. There's been a few unofficial
cookbooks and we haven't had them on.
We've had, you know, because we've done that.
We've talked about that. We want to move on.
We want to be unique every episode.
And you know, we had we were on the void frogs, you know, a long
time ago. I think that was episode like
100 and now we've got orbits here from inside MC and this is
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episode 183. Like we like to like if we are
going to do another podcast or we're going to do another
YouTube or another Let's Player or something like that, we like
to kind of space them out and kind of it's kind of give the
audience something different every time they listen to us.
Question though, with that, do you think that comes down to the
fact that you guys not only upload one podcast a month?
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Because I get a lot of repeat guests on, but my, one of my
main things, and I've said this before, on most 4th like IMC
videos is I get people on who I genuinely know I'd enjoy talking
to. Yeah.
And I'm not saying that you guysdon't do that, but do you think
you want to do more variety because you upload less podcasts
a month as opposed to me? He was doing eight a month or
ten a month depending on how many weeks there were.
The for me the problem is scheduling.
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Yeah. Having having guests on is
really hard for us. Carl's British, so he's in that
time zone. I'm Eastern United States, and
we've had some guests that are Californians.
So for Carl, that's that's a lotof time difference he's got to
make up. Yeah.
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And granted, he's a vampire and he stays up most nights, so his
his timing and my timing kind ofline up.
But that's a lot of work on him.And I hate putting so much work
on Carl, so I try not to do that.
Which means we space out guests a lot.
Yeah, it's, it's one of them things where because we're in
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different time zones that it, it's kind of difficult to line
it up. I guess that's why why Cubed has
so much British staff, Charlie, because you're all like in that
office till like 1:00 AM. Vampires.
Yeah. We are all vampires.
We did not leave until 2:00 in the morning yesterday.
Oh. That you had the pub this
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morning, the pub quiz that went on, I think.
Did that go on to like 1:30? I want to.
Say, Yep, yeah. We were on for that Zorko.
Yeah, we were there. The grind never stops.
If you are British. Yeah, I can take.
Yeah. And like, yes, a lot of our
guests have never done podcasts either, so they didn't really
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know how to work their mic or any settings.
And we have everyone record locally and then just send the
file over and Carl smashes it all together into one good file.
So teaching them how to work software and stuff, maybe a day
or two before the show, we've done it leading up five minutes
before the show. It's a lot of stress.
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Hey duds, me and Orbits were talking about this last night
when you were working on your Mustang and we were discussing
like what inside MC does for they're kind of like pre guest
prep. Oh no.
So I'm going to steal that and I'm going to make a document.
I I can I can give a quick rundown of it if if I won't I
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won't say too much but just so people know the context it is
yourself done as well. It'd be bad if I if I went this
entire panel without mentioning Ajx.
He was a Co host of midweek MC when that was alive and he still
helps out behind the scenes. Yeah, we we were hoping to have
him on this as well. So shout out to AJ.
But scheduling issues, Look at that.
See let's you prove your point. It's all planned you.
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Don't even record on Wednesdays at 7:00 PM.
That was the only day you could do so.
If everyone like I needed to reschedule a guest because I was
busy or failing on, well, whatever, he just won't be able
to make it sadly. But our little thing that we was
mainly me, but he kind of helpednarrow it down as being correct,
was my pre podcast document. And So what I do is I'll call
the content creator or whoever it is that I'm in a call with.
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Maybe it'll just be someone being a Co host.
I'll give them the rundown as well.
And I have this like it's nine, it's nine points.
But the last two points are mic check and turn off the
condensation thing that sits on my window still because it makes
a lot of noise. But the first 7 is that stuff
that I need to tell the guests. So for instance, like this is
how it's going to work. If you want, I want to say this,
if you don't want to say this, the rule behind swearing because
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obviously inside MC is a little bit different.
And then just like general how the intro is going to work.
That kind of just, it's so helpful because I, I don't do
what you guys do. I record everyone's audio and
1:00 because I don't have. If I want to keep the consistent
schedule I keep, I can't. I edit 2 audios at once.
It just takes too much time for me and I've done it before and
it's great. But at the same time it's a lot
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easier for me to do a quick audio test and just record audio
audio in one and then I just addit up.
I get people to record the audioalso because sometimes discord
has a little thing where it likes to lag out for about 10
seconds or if they're saying something important I need to
hear it. But for the most part it's just
me recording on my end. Yeah, So these live shows,
obviously we use the Discord audio, but like normally we'd
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we'd want local audio as much aswe can.
It's just kind of a preference thing.
Nothing that we do is right or wrong, nothing that you guys is
right or wrong. It's always like what you think
is best for your kind of situation.
So if you guys listening to thisand you're thinking about
creating content like just do what works for you.
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We we like having live audio. You find it easier with your,
you know, the, your insane schedule to, to use one file.
And that's, that's perfectly valid.
You know, there's, there's so many ways of, of doing things
and it kind of goes back to whatwe were talking about before
about the creativity of Minecraft.
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There's so many different ways of doing everything that it
just, you know, if everyone did it the same way, it'd be boring,
you know? You've got to be unique.
Yeah, exactly. You've got to be unique.
I mean, I don't, I don't know many other Minecraft in game
conventions. Yeah, Coupon has kind of mashed
out the park with this one. Exactly year after year after
year. And they've already confirmed
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2025. They've said it so much on
stream, it's basically happeningnow.
Go. Of course, of course.
No one's cancelling this. No, definitely not.
Yeah, when you think about it, there's not a lot of like in
person stuff anymore either. Yeah, Minecon's kind of gone
away. So this, this is the big
convention for Minecraft. At least.
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I look forward to it every year.Thank you, it's definitely like
the the pub quiz at the start and then not squad game show at
the end. It's kind of my like perfect
weekend doing cubed every year II Gen.
I genuinely look forward to it every year.
Oh, thank you. We look forward to hosting it
every single year. You know, we've, we know that
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people enjoy coming here. We know that people enjoy like
helping raise money for such a special cause.
And we just didn't aim to put ona weekend that people are going
to enjoy. Like as you said, there isn't
really any Minecraft conventionsout there anymore.
It's kind of there were and now they're on and now you can like
we've kind of just hit on this like nice little corner in the
market that's really hitting home.
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And you know, we've managed to like, as you've seen, like we
had a set last year, but like the set, this year's
dramatically, like improved. That massive grade is inside.
That is so big, get too close toit, you get dizzy.
But it's just so fun and so exhilarating to see people
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enjoying it so much in the survey.
You know, like I'm getting the camera back to the stage.
Keep Cab's gone again. Great timing.
It was Albany about it was Albany.
He's he's hacking you. Yeah, he started the fight.
Yeah, but it's just, it's just the best, you know, having
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something unique, having something special to be able to
do so much with it. And you know, we've almost
smashed on target from last year.
Yeah, that's crazy what it's up to already.
It's like $11,000. At the moment it's like 12100 or
something. Yeah, 12100 was our goal last
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year, our target for this year to beat and that's how much we
raised last year. And it's just we're well on our
way to smashing that out of the park.
Definitely. And you're going to do some
inventive stuff later to get that out, aren't you?
Yes, we are straight after this.It's.
The donator form. It is the donator form after
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this. Absolutely.
That's awesome. That's awesome.
And a big shout out to like yourself over the years for
having us on and helping us out and stuff.
You guys. Are and Ben, as well as Ben as
well has been great and stuff and everyone's just awesome.
Our Lord and Savior Ben. Your Lord and Savior.
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Where would we be without him? Let's exactly, exactly, exactly.
Carly has sadly left. No, I.
Can still hear them. It's.
Because my computer is elsewhere.
No, no. It's opening again, not.
Again, and you're talking, you're talking from the big
screen behind us that's we we get one of those it's all like
you guys so. Yeah, yeah.
That's that's I'm up there. I promise.
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It's just turned off at the moment, but you are there.
We can hear audio. We just.
Can't see you. Yeah, Technical difficulties.
It wouldn't be. It would not be a live episode
of the withering effect without some kind of technical
difficulties. Yep, we always end up restarting
our live streams like three times because even me or duds or
the tech messes up. So we feel your pain when you're
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doing all these live shows for Cubed So.
Good isn't. It it all works out in the end
though. I think people, it does, people
kind of relate to it as well. They see that it's kind of like,
you know, it's genuine, it's in person, it's live, it's going to
happen. Just flow with it.
Goodness, yes, absolutely. And if you don't understand
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that, then you've never done a live production.
Yeah, if you guys think this is an easy thing to do, try it
yourself. Oh.
No, absolutely not. Absolutely not.
Absolutely. Or do what I do and get a coral.
Yeah. Yeah, give all the stress to go.
Good. Idea when I give them all the
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credit, Carl is like 75 to 85% of the withering effect.
Don't give cubed ideas. They'll have me come into the
office next door. Go do you just you fix things.
I'm just like, you're busy next year, you're busy next year, do
you want to come down? You're in the UK anyway, It's
just a train away. Exactly.
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And a fellow vampire. A fellow vampire.
Join the lack of sleep train. Yeah, coming to our office.
We do actually all get enough sleep.
Here it is. It is completely fine.
As we say that for legal reasons.
No, no, genuinely. Like, even though we all got
like in at like 2:00 in the morning last night.
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Like yeah, I hope we all have hotel rooms literally just
across the road. No, it's.
Not like we have to go very far.Yeah, I have this idea of you
all sleeping on the office floor.
Yeah, I mean probably. Have you not seen the tents in
in the back? Of the tents, yeah.
When they swung that camera around before, we were like, ah,
there's the tents, That's where they sleep.
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Yeah, you know those chairs thatare on the set for?
Some. Of us sleep and the rest of us
are in the kitchen. No, you, you guys do a great job
and having that and having that screen has really like allowed
you to do so much stuff this year, like the murder mystery
stuff with like the evidence on the screen and stuff.
It's been absolutely fantastic. Yeah, I wonder what you're going
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to do next year, how you're going to, how you're going to
beat a massive screen. That's the challenge.
Go on a stadium screen next. That is the that is the, that is
the the challenge to beat, definitely.
Do we have, do we have any finalthoughts?
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We're getting close to the end of our slot, yeah.
Do we have any final slot? Final thoughts guys?
I just want to say, I guess thisis less podcast more as my kind
of view on content creation. I just, I kind of just wanted to
mention it because of mine as well.
I think a lot of time when it comes to content creation and
making content is that people really want it to work.
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And that's completely fine. But I think some people want it
too much. I think.
I think there's wanting it too much, which is I think why was
like during Covic, because it's all I did and I really wanted it
to be something. But now that I've grown up, I've
kind of established the I've really wanted to work, but I'm
also really satisfied and happy with the content I'm making.
Yeah. And I think it's a fine line.
And I think YouTube, hopefully in the next few years, it
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probably won't. I'm hoping this very much just
me hoping that kind of goes downthe road of have fun with
content creation again and do what you would enjoy and show
yourself in your videos as opposed to what works.
Because I think a lot of time, you know, I think what what
coupon hits the mark with is because it brings everyone who
can come to conventions, You know who, sorry, everyone who
can't go to conventions because the time zones, because of money
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restraints, because the travel constraints, they can just log
on to Minecraft and shop, right?A lot of time people meet people
in person and they're amazing. But at the same time, like
they're also not the same peopleyou see in videos and not a bad
thing. But at the same time, it's kind
of because people really want tomake content creation work that
you do sometimes kind of alter who they are.
Slightly, and we were saying last night when we were
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discussing this like don't chasestats, don't make everything
about stats. Have fun and the people who
enjoy your content will follow. Like don't be like obsessive
about numbers because you'll just drive yourself mad.
You genuinely will like. For me, I don't make an episode
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that I don't like to watch. So all of my stuff I get my my
YouTube videos are niche and they are not for everyone, but I
enjoy them and that's what keepsme going.
Making the content is like, hey,yeah, I would watch that.
So I'm very, that is me that there's no well, except for I I
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was told by a family member, I mumble a lot and I sound the not
the best, so I should talk with a smile.
So when you hear people talk about their YouTube voice,
that's just me putting a smile on to talk.
So it was. Like this?
Yeah, so finding your voice is big, but also don't be anyone
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other than you. Exactly.
Just be yourself. And on that wonderful note,
should we? Should you read your giant
script? Or you like made the script 3
paragraphs like what are you doing?
Go on, go on. It's not that bad.
That's going to do it for today's show.
But before I have Carl read us out, I want to say a huge thank
you to Orbitz from inside MC andCharlie from Cubed for joining
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The Withering Effect Orbitz. Where can everyone find your
content? See, I didn't write a script for
this. I probably should have.
I'm just gonna freeboard this. Sorry.
It I don't have a patron, I justnever did one.
I wouldn't really know what to put there.
I'm not like you guys. You guys are so advanced
compared to me. But if you're looking at
anything me related, funny enough, other than my streams in
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orbits, all of me related stuff is inside MC genuinely.
So just I genuinely, if you go onto Google Now and search up
inside MC, you'll come up with all of that stuff.
I need to shop before some like college program, which is pretty
cool. I'm big time now.
So it shows the wiki. We have a website inside MC,
which is just shows everything you need to know about me.
The team. This podcast will probably be
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put on there somewhere as well once it gets uploaded on the
withering effect, because going out on their channel and I'll
just promote it through them. And yeah, I just want to say
thank you guys so much for helping organizers.
Thank you cubes con for letting this be possible and thank you
for everyone who showed up. I was getting you nervous We'd
have about like, I guess this isme worrying, you know, like not
not that we'd have less people than there are now, but I wasn't
sure what to expect and turn outeven just from people sitting in
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the crowd and kind of really like living the experience and
game is just crazy. So thank you so, so much for
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So look how much better that wasthan mine.
Oh my God. I ride them though.
That was so clean. I just, I just waffle.
I ride them so you know. I read so good you did.
You've got one more duds. You can do this.
Actually, say it duds quickly before you say something, go for
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you say your script for anyone who's here in this server right
now, you, I don't think they'll be able to hear us when you do
it. But if you want to be, I think
you're recording it in the video, right?
And yeah, we are. We're going to be in the booth.
It's over there where I'm hitting right now in that
direction. It's by if you TP to X14D when
it sends if you want to be in the video and we're going to be
staying there for you guys AFK for 30 minutes, but we're going
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to be talking about something so.
Yeah, definitely. There you go.
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You guys have been awesome. Thank you so much for getting
withered with us. Should probably go drink your
milk now. Bye.
See you guys. See you later, everybody.
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Bye. Cue that outro music production.
We're going to add guys. We are clear.
Thank you guys. That was.
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That was amazing.
Hello everybody, welcome back tothe Mainstage at Cubed 2024.
I am here with the wonderful people from Inside MC and the
Withering Effect podcast. Take it away, guys.
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Hey everyone, welcome to the Withering Effect episode 183,
recorded live on the Mainstage at Cubed 2024.
Today's date is Sunday, October 6th, 2024.
And I am duds or duds versus known to the rest of the
interweb. And I'm Carl, you may know me as
Carl Rides. And I'm Orbitz from inside MC.
And I'm Charlie from Cube Con. Today, it's the podcast
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crossover you've all been waiting for.
It's inside MC and The WitheringEffect coming together for a
Cube podcast special discussing all things podcasting in
Minecraft. And for our first section today,
we have growing a podcast and a brand.
So I think we should start with inside MC on this one.
Oh, hello. So I'm doing, I'm doing a
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classic thing today of, of speaking when I'm spoken to.
No way I don't get too confused or overspeak.
Let's go for it. Sorry, I guess what?
So you want me to talk first or would you rather me ask you?
A question for it, like how did you guys like build the inside
MC brand just briefly? Oh, so I started off like about
2 1/2 years ago now, give or take.
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And it wasn't like it was, it was quite consistent at the
time. But then after about like a
month or two, I ended up stopping because I had to do a
night shift job. And then I bought a bag last
year and it took partial luck, like all things do.
I think a lot of time if you go to a crater, a lot of it will be
very, very lucky. But at the same time, it just
came down to consistency. Like I was mentioning to people
(02:00):
yesterday, like in conversation that midweek MC and inside MC
was being uploaded twice a week for an entire year straight.
And for the last two weeks, I just don't know what to do with
myself because I am only uploading one once a week now.
So it's kind of broken out of this habit of consistently
uploading these podcasts to. I have so much time that's just
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consistency, work ethic and partial luck with getting people
on or just having people find out that you exist.
Yeah, definitely with us, it waskind of like, it's a similar
kind of story. Like for the first four years we
were doing weekly episodes and with the pandemic and stuff like
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when we started in June of 2019,once we'd got to 2020 and
lockdown started happening around the world, like our
numbers just kept growing and growing and growing as people
had more time to like find, you know, new interests and stuff.
Like they were finding new Youtubers, they were off, they
were looking at they will find anew podcast they were listening
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to. And that really kind of helped
us to take our little podcast towhat it is today.
I mean, we've been at cubed three Times Now, first year on
the outdoor stage, last year on the community stage and this
time at the wonderful brand new mainstage at the new convention
centre. And this is your.
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First time being on stream as all.
Right, first time being on the Cube stream.
We did our own streams last yearand the year before, but we were
consistent, as I say, for the first four years, weekly
episodes. We were producing Patreon
content every week as well, but we've had a couple of Co host
changes. I'm not supposed to be the
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dedicated Co host, I'm supposed to be the producer.
So but it's just kind of happened that we haven't really
found the right person to replace Jimbo.
But we kind of all of our lives sort of got busier in the past
year. We've worked and everything like
that. So we've sort of we we put it
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back to monthly and we haven't been the best consistent at that
either. But we are trying like this
month for example, in the last like month in the last four
weeks, we would have produced free podcast episodes.
So I think we've kind of made-upfor the two we've missed earlier
in the year. So yeah, building, building the
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brand was also kind of interesting.
We, we used to be on a server called the Ripple effect and
that's where the withering effect came from.
It kind of morphed from that. So it means that we kind of had
that audience, although it was asmall audience, it was one that
was really. Dedicated.
Yeah, dedicated to us and and wecould build on that.
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So we had a baseline of of listeners for the podcast
already and that meant that Spotify and Apple and that was
seeing that we were getting listens from day one.
There was no episodes where we had zero lessons.
It was starting. I think the first episode
started in the first couple of days with like 50 listeners like
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the first two days and then it just rolled from there.
I also think like the way we do our marketing in terms of like
our podcast and that we have ourfaces on there because we want
it to be less of a news show andmore of like friends talking
together about Minecraft. I think Duds, you kind of like
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wanted that to be what the show was about originally, didn't
you? Yeah.
So originally it kind of was a news show.
There was a lot to talk about that was new in the Minecraft
world. Their updates were coming fast
and large. And that's that's what we did
because we thought that's what people want to listen to.
But from the get go, I just wanted it to be people sitting
around talking about Minecraft, not so much reporting about
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Minecraft. And I think you can see that
with a lot of our guests that wehave on.
There's a huge range and there'salways a underlying love for
Minecraft in it. Definitely, yeah.
We've had people, we've had Bojang developers on, we've had
people from Hermit Craft, we've had Logical Geek Boy.
So many people like the list is the list is brilliant, like the
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people we've. Had on we were just talking
about this last night. One of our favorite guests was
oh I can't believe I'm blanking on her name, but they did a
cookbook. The Minecraft official cookbook,
Yeah. Yes, that was such a fun.
I I can't believe I'm. I'm going to attempt my name.
Carry on. Yeah, it's it's one of those
things I don't do well with testing, so putting me on a
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stage and forcing me to rememberthings I'm going to forget.
But yeah, just talking about thecookbook and how you're going
from real food to video game food and making them taste well.
Carl and I even were making someof the recipes at home and it
was a lot of fun. Definitely.
Yeah. Sorry, I'm still trying to find
the name. Go for it, Orbitz.
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While while you look for that, Iwas going to say that like I, I
mean, I'll be transparent as much as I can here.
Well, I will be transparent. I know you guys won't mind this.
For instance, I didn't know whatthe weather effect was before
cubes con last year. I found out what cubes Con was.
I had NAFE on the podcast, whichis really, really cool.
They came on after, but like, soI went around looked at stuff
and then I found withering effect did a little bit of a
look into. I was like, Oh my God, this is
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this is a podcast. This is so sick.
I love podcasts. What So I found out who you guys
were. And funny enough, one of the
cookbook, the cookbook 1 was oneof the first ones I listened to
because I was just giving like alittle scroll through the
content that you guys made. I was like, oh, this one's
really interesting. So, you know, it's, it's kind of
cool. Like with the whole, you know,
part, like where I kind of referto what I said earlier with the
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whole probing and then getting people on when I was sitting
down and doing this. Because a year ago we reached
out to each other and was like, what if we did a podcast
together sometime and then that never happened until right now.
Yeah. Like we've been planning this
crossover for like a year now. We, we've been attempting, yeah,
we've been attempting to like, do this for ages.
And we were. And like a few months ago when
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Cubed announced the date, we kind of went right.
It's either we do it now or it'snever going to happen.
So that's why we reached out. It's Tara, by the way, who
produced the cupboard. Tara, that's right.
Yeah, that's right. One, the big thing is we work 40
hour week jobs like we have reallife.
Outside of this, we're not able to be the full time content
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creators everyone wants to be. Yeah.
So finding time to fit this intobusy schedules is extremely
hard. Yeah, I think that's kind of the
thing to anyone out there who's like thinking about podcasting,
try and pick or even YouTube tryand pick a schedule that works
around your life. If you pick a schedule that's
too intense, you're going to be burnt out, you're going to give
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up. Like we, we made the decision to
change our schedule because we knew that we couldn't keep up
with the current schedule that we had.
And we we'd rather be as consistent as we can and produce
less episodes than try and say we're a weekly show and it
ending up every month anyway. We'd rather be transparent about
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that. And I think if you talk to your
audience about what's happening,you know, our audience knows,
you know, we have jobs and stufflike that and what we what we do
to a degree. And I think if you're
transparent with them like that,that they really like respect
you more and kind of, you know, understand like why the change
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was made in the first place. Kind of like linking into that,
well, fully linking into that isa alongside having a job and
stuff as well. It's also, I mean, Tommy in a
made a video about this what yesterday, 2 days ago.
YouTube has just changed a bunchand a bunch anyways.
And having someone, getting someone to listen to a podcast
for so long and even for everyone who's listening live
(09:56):
right now, like it's tough to keep people engaged.
And it's and with what you guys do, and I'm going to speak on my
behalf here and you guys can grow if you want to.
We have our jobs that kind of earn us the income and you know,
has us let us live a life. And then we have the podcast.
It is our thing that we enjoy doing on the side.
And it's like it takes a lot of time because I was talking to
you last night, Carl, and I knowwhen it comes to editing, you do
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so much in depth editing on yourpodcast.
It's too much recorded, then it's cut up and it takes ages.
With me, for example, it's aboutscheduling, then you record and
then I cut out all the silent parts.
If anything's misspoke, which isI've never done a live podcast
before. This is completely new to me.
So I can't just, if I stutter orgo, I can't cut it out, but
editing I can. I can just get rid of that and
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make myself look like the most perfect speaker.
So it kind of comes down to thatas well.
Time for work, time for family, social life, going out, living
life and then podcast is a lot to manage.
The amount of So's that I removefrom Dodd's audio so so.
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That was a trick. So I had to take a public
speaking class in college for mydegree and I am not good at
public speaking. I I hate it.
I despise it. Which is hilarious being on a
podcast on a stage with lots of people watching.
At at least it's all digital and.
There's so many people in the audience as well.
Guys, thank you for joining us at this stage.
For sure. But yeah, my teacher would say
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instead of, instead of saying, say so or something like that to
because that shows you're carrying on the conversation,
you're not giving up on it. So I did.
I have kind of a perfectionist kind of attitude to like
content. Like, I'll go through an episode
and I'll go, right. I'm, I'm not going to edit this
for 12 hours like I used to in the early days.
(11:45):
I'm going to do like 3 hours of editing and then five hours
later I'm still there going. Yeah, but this bit's not quite
right. So I think I edited the first
five episodes of the show and I spent maybe an hour Max.
And then Carl was like, hey, if you want, I would love to be
part of the thing and just be inthe background.
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Just edit. That was the I was like, oh,
yeah, great. That that that takes some some
weight off my hands. I just have to plan a show and
be on there and. Welcome.
To the show, Carl. Yeah, like this was supposed to
be a temporary thing. I'm supposed to be pressing
buttons and being like Harrison,just producing.
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Should we move on to our next section?
Yeah, let's move on to the future of Minecraft as a medium.
And this is huge because Minecraft is like reaching into
more than just video game world and stuff.
And even if it, even if you justfocus on the game, it's become
like an art platform. You have YouTube videos and
stuff. You have people what I call
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painting in Minecraft, and it's beautiful.
There's so many like different ways of like being a Minecraft
content creator, Like there's people who we were talking the
other day, duds about people like map makers.
Yeah, I don't know how some people think of that.
Yeah, like the planning that hasto go into a map versus like
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with a base, you can kind of wing it to a degree.
But like when you're creating a map that's like got a story to
it and stuff like being able to like plan all of that out and
get everything you need to make it work.
It's, it's like Cube, they had the murder mystery last night
and you know, that kind of stuffin Minecraft, you know about
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Minecraft. We've had, you know, podcasts,
we have Youtubers, we have PV peers, We have the Cube Grand
Prix they had yesterday where itwas like ice boat racing
challenges. There's so much to do in this
game and it's just amazing to like have this kind of thing as
well where we can all come together and kind of share that
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with each other. And it's really special putting
out there. I'm going to, I'm going to prop
some Channel 64 people here because if you watch some of
those videos, yeah, there's a couple of us that do a, a
standard Let's Play, but there'sa lot of really, really good
storytellers in there. All of those episodes feel like
you're watching short movies andI don't think they get enough
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credit for how very well done they are.
Yeah, we've also got things likeme and Duds have recently
started playing Create and it just shows that like if you're
if you're getting a bit kind of like bored with vanilla, that
there's so many options out there for getting a different
experience from the game. And I think that's why Minecraft
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is like stood the test of time because it's so varied in what
it's what it's got to offer. What do you think?
Orbits? I mean with like, I guess how
Minecraft is going, it's I saw someone refer to it being like
Fortnite, Minecraft, Minecraft, Fortnite.
It's like kind of similar. I think Minecraft as a whole is
just, I mean, it's a sandbox game, right?
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So you can, you can do anything that you want.
One, one thing that when you were mentioning about the
content and stuff you said aboutlike story times and S and PS
and stuff, something that I'm a bit more involved in.
It's like the tournament scene, for example, which even not like
even the tournament scene in Minecraft has grown so much to
the point where I think there's about 5 on today.
There was about 7 on yesterday. I mean, later today for cubes
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con, there's the knot squad gameshow, although that isn't a like
a Minecraft tournament in a sense of eight games played
multiple different teams. It's still a Minecraft event
that's happening. And it's crazy that over the
last night, I haven't been involved in Minecraft for like a
crazy long time, or at least fully involved in it like I am
now. But in my last four years of
being involved in Minecraft, especially the last two years
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being involved in podcast, I've seen Minecraft change not just
the game itself, but the people around it.
And maybe that's just because I've associated myself with more
people that I've found so many different areas of Minecraft
where I thought it was just log on, play survival, get your
armor, beady Dragon, that was it.
But the buildings that people make, the stories that people
tell, the tournaments that people host, like some of it is
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crazy, I guess crazy. And we're not even getting into
the fact that there's a full feature Minecraft movie coming
out. We haven't, I think, an animated
show coming on Netflix. So it's moving past the video
game media. The music for Minecraft is
usually trending on either Spotify or something at some
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point because people just love to listen to Minecraft.
Yeah, like our music that we played at the start and there'll
be an outro at the end as well for you guys on the Cube Con
stream that was made with Minecraft note blocks, you know
it was. Made wonderful decoy.
By Decoy, a music master. Yeah, and it was using the
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weather sounds and like the noteblock sounds.
And there's a video on YouTube from Decoy showing you how we
put it together in Logic. And it's got so many like layers
where he's just layered all the note blocks together and made
that wonderful, like music that you heard at the star and you'll
hear at the end. It's so cool, so good that you
can do that kind of stuff. I love it.
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I love your little the little Jingle.
It's so catchy. He's just like we had like a
Ripple news one. We've had like our Patreon music
is a different set of music, butbased on the same kind of idea.
He's so good to us. He makes us loads of different
music for our like. Yeah, any time I've asked decoy
for your music, he's been like, how much time do I have?
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What do you want it to sound like?
And anytime I've tried to pay him, he turns it down.
He goes, this is this is for thefun of it.
And I always try to credit him as much as possible because he
he created a new song for my create series and I literally
sent him a song from Daft Punk. And I said this, but industrial
and that's all I had to. Well I also said he created my,
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what he calls Chill Pace intro music for Channel 64 and I said
I need the timing to be the samebecause there's like a 10 second
mark cut, a 22nd mark cut and then a 45 second mark cut.
And that's how I do my intros and outros and stuff.
So he took Daft Punk Industrial and that same cut points to
create my create theme music. And the man's a genius, he
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really is. He is, he is.
Should we try and bring Charlie in here?
What do you think about Minecraft?
Charlie, what's your favorite part of Minecraft?
What's your kind of like go to? Is it like PvP, survival,
Redstone, that kind of stuff? She disappeared.
Maybe, yeah. I can't hear Charlie again.
I can't hear. Charlie, maybe it's not working
again. What about if we move on to our
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final section, then about Creator outreach?
This was kind of your kind of department, I think, orbit.
Yes. Is this the one I wanted?
This is the, this is the one that we probably end up.
I mean, we've still got loads oftime, so.
Yeah, yeah. We'll kind of bounce between
them as well, yeah. Yeah, we can always go back.
Yeah, exactly. I think, I think a lot of what
will be said here will kind of link into the last two things
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anyways. Yeah, sure.
Outreach involved like Minecraftgrowing over time or that kind
of jazz. So I guess one thing I wanted to
ask I, I actually want to leave this with a question to you
guys, if that's OK, just to hearyour thoughts on it.
When you obviously, you know, a long time ago you had official
Minecraft people and nowadays you get guests on when you
outreach to a guest to get them on the podcast.
How exactly do you go about doing it for like, it doesn't
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have to be a crazy in depth process, but like, firstly, how
did you get in contact? And secondly, how exactly do you
invite them on free message? I'll start with, whenever I find
someone like, hey, I'd love to have a show with them, whatever.
I just kind of message Carl and be like, Hey, is there any way
we can reach out and talk to this person?
And then from then, I don't knowwhat Carl does.
He works some kind of magic. We we get a lot of no's, like
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we've gotten a lot of no's, but everyone's wrong.
We get a yes, we. Don't get a lot of no's, we get
a lot of of being ignored. We're like, OK, yeah.
That's the difference. We've only Yes, it's still.
A No, we've also take it. We've only officially had one,
no. Yeah, and it but it was the
nicest know of all time. Yeah, it was one I'm not going
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to name who it was, but it was one of the hermit craft people
and they're like, I'm so sorry. I just I my schedule is so
packed, you know we. Just don't have.
But they were they were very kind to reach out and let us
know, hey, I'm not ignoring you.I just that that rocketed them
to the top of my watch list. Every time there's an episode
out now, I try to watch it within the first hour just
because of how kind they were. Yeah.
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In terms of of a guest, it's basically just reaching out,
just explaining who you are, putin some, you know, past guests
that you've had some figures and.
Try to be as professional as possible.
Yeah, and then they come on the show and they meet duds.
Yeah. Yeah, I.
Never want to. I never want to stop recording.
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We burn each other on the show all the time.
I think we have Charlie back. Hello, Charlie.
Welcome. Back.
Slight technical difficulties, but I am back.
Awesome. We were just saying before we
were talking about Minecraft as a medium and we were talking
about like the kind of areas of Minecraft that we like the most.
What's your kind of area? Do you, do you, Did you enjoy
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like the murder mystery last night much?
I did indeed. It was very fun taking part of
it. But I just love how Minecraft is
so creative as a medium that youcan quite literally do anything
in it. You know, like we had a panel
yesterday, people have made likean entire magic SNP that's
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custom made. Yeah.
That's got. Spells and broomsticks and it's
just and a dragon I think I saw as well.
Like not the end of Dragon. Yeah.
Is it red? And it's just absolutely
incredible. It is just fascinating how far
you can actually go in Minecraft.
If you just have a thought, you know, like the Sky's the limit,
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just keep going. Exactly.
It's crazy. Like the amount of stuff that
you guys have done over the years as well on the live
streams, like you've got your donator funds and you had like
the Lego Minecraft thing earlierand as well.
Like there's so much you can do in this game and it's, it's just
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wonderful to see people's creativity.
And that's what we kind of try, I know you guys try and do it
here where you have people on for panels and stuff and talk
about these things. And we try to have guests on
that we think have, you know, not just I play Minecraft on
YouTube, but different things that are a little bit unique.
Cubed Cam has disappeared. It's so huge that.
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One that way is not. Hey.
Duds for once, that is not my problem.
I am not the producer. Anytime things go wrong, I go
Carl. I have no control over that.
That's OK, we're back. Yeah, as long as they could
still hear us, I think we're good.
We're all good. We miss you so much, cute Cam.
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Oh cute Cam. You can be my second favorite
walrus. How about that?
Yeah, Q Cam is a walrus. Obney, you've got competition
first. Obney, our good friend Obney is
a walrus as well. We'll have we'll have to bring
the death we'll have to bring him on next year in him and Q
Cam can have a fight we. Can buy way out when God I want
(23:17):
to get the exact right name. Hold up one second it's called
flick Flack. There we go.
I was just making sure I knew that the one we wanted Flick
Flack I. Think that's a very good idea?
We will arrange that battle for 2025.
Definitely the cube battle. Army just gets thrown into this.
He's like, what did I do? I just.
I wasn't even just woke. Up and I've heard that there's
declared war. Should we talk about commitment
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to content creation? Can I quickly touch on the
outreach to guess if? That's yeah.
Go for it, yeah. I was gonna say that I have a
certain strategy. It's not a strategy that I
purposely nailed down. It kind of just happened to
happen. I some of it I kind of mentioned
to you last night and I won't gointo full depth of it because
it's not like this ultimate. I don't want people thinking
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it's like the ultimate way of talking to people.
I like reaching out, but I, I got kind of lucky with guests I
had on in the earlier days. And then I think a lot of the
time because that their content,I was also interested in
interested in the content that they did alongside the critters
that they were around. I think it kind of helped with
getting the other critters on. But a lot of the time my method
is either through e-mail if I really need to or just sending a
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Discord friend request. I think a lot of people don't
realize, and maybe I could be wrong in this, I've talked to
certain guests and they agree with me.
It's like your Discord friends list holds a lot of power.
Yeah. So if you reach out to someone
right in my bio is so my name isinsane Orbits.
I have inside MC in my bio, all my links, they meet inside MC,
some of it podcast, some of the studios.
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And then as soon as you click onmy friends list as I like I have
I have however many mutual friends I have with the other
person I'm trying to reach out to.
And a lot of time they'll acceptme.
A lot of the time I won't get a response from a few people, but
my message is always pretty similar, but also to different
people. So it's like this big paragraph.
Basically, this is who I am. This is what I do.
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This is why I want from you. This is why I want you one and
then just send it off with here.This is about a rough time frame
to do it. I kind of wanted to touch on the
other side of it as well of and I don't I don't know how many
people you've had reach out to come on the withering effect.
I get a lot of good a lot of people reach out to come on
inside MC, which is completely fine.
I'm more than happy for people to reach out and try their luck
because I try my luck with getting guests on yeah, but a
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lot of time I'll get a Twitter DM or so add me on this one.
Send me a DM. Can I be on the podcast and it's
and it's fine. Like it's maybe I'll say yes,
it's very rare. I say yes.
I think a lot of the time I, I say if you're out reaching to be
a part of something, if you wantto physically be on it is a lot
of time I've suggest to people because they've reached out,
they give me their name, they'vegiven me what they do.
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They've given me places to find them if it's not in their
profile. They've given me like, you know,
what they want to talk about on a podcast.
They've given me a rough date when they'll be free.
Like they've been so cooperativein their first message to the
point where I don't have to ask you any questions because you've
given me all the answers as opposed to can I be on the
podcast? And it's just like a long spiral
then of conversation that sometimes takes two or three
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days to get a response, which is, again, it's completely fine.
But chances, at least for me, increase drastically if you've
given me everything I need to know in that first message.
Yeah, we kind of have like an unwritten rule that we don't
usually take people who reach out to us as guests.
We like, we, we look for people who, if, if someone reaches out
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and they have something unique, then we'll, we definitely
consider it. But we kind of like to, to be
the ones to reach out ourselves.We kind of see something special
in someone's like what they're doing in Minecraft and we, we
kind of reach out to them. And we have had some people who
have reached out in the past that we haven't had on for
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whatever reason. But yeah, we, we, we try to be
the ones to reach out first and.We've had a couple that have
reached out that have been on the show also.
Yeah, yeah. So there's been a couple, but we
we kind of like to be the ones to kind of like because, because
we'll see someone and we'll go. This is the kind of show we can
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build with that person. You know, it's not like any
other show we've done before. We, we like to not kind of, we
repeat ourselves too much in thekinds of guests that we have
with the exception, with the exception of, with the exception
of Mojang staff. Like we've had three Java
developers, we've had one dungeons manager.
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And so that's kind of like the outlier, obviously, because it's
Mojang. But like it was also a different
update each time. Yeah.
So they had different things to talk about each time.
I think King B Dogs was like episode 45.
I want to say who Roth was like episode 74, something like that.
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And so there was big gaps between them.
And I think Laura from Dungeons was like 120, something like
that, 100 and episode 120. And so, yeah, we try and make
sure that we kind of have, if wedo have them on, that we have
them at different times. So like Dud says that they've
got different things to talk about from each other and we
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don't we don't like to like havelike we've only had one cookbook
person on. There's been a few unofficial
cookbooks and we haven't had them on.
We've had, you know, because we've done that.
We've talked about that. We want to move on.
We want to be unique every episode.
And you know, we had we were on the void frogs, you know, a long
time ago. I think that was episode like
100 and now we've got orbits here from inside MC and this is
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episode 183. Like we like to like if we are
going to do another podcast or we're going to do another
YouTube or another Let's Player or something like that, we like
to kind of space them out and kind of it's kind of give the
audience something different every time they listen to us.
Question though, with that, do you think that comes down to the
fact that you guys not only upload one podcast a month?
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Because I get a lot of repeat guests on, but my, one of my
main things, and I've said this before, on most 4th like IMC
videos is I get people on who I genuinely know I'd enjoy talking
to. Yeah.
And I'm not saying that you guysdon't do that, but do you think
you want to do more variety because you upload less podcasts
a month as opposed to me? He was doing eight a month or
ten a month depending on how many weeks there were.
The for me the problem is scheduling.
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Yeah. Having having guests on is
really hard for us. Carl's British, so he's in that
time zone. I'm Eastern United States, and
we've had some guests that are Californians.
So for Carl, that's that's a lotof time difference he's got to
make up. Yeah.
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And granted, he's a vampire and he stays up most nights, so his
his timing and my timing kind ofline up.
But that's a lot of work on him.And I hate putting so much work
on Carl, so I try not to do that.
Which means we space out guests a lot.
Yeah, it's, it's one of them things where because we're in
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different time zones that it, it's kind of difficult to line
it up. I guess that's why why Cubed has
so much British staff, Charlie, because you're all like in that
office till like 1:00 AM. Vampires.
Yeah. We are all vampires.
We did not leave until 2:00 in the morning yesterday.
Oh. That you had the pub this
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morning, the pub quiz that went on, I think.
Did that go on to like 1:30? I want to.
Say, Yep, yeah. We were on for that Zorko.
Yeah, we were there. The grind never stops.
If you are British. Yeah, I can take.
Yeah. And like, yes, a lot of our
guests have never done podcasts either, so they didn't really
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know how to work their mic or any settings.
And we have everyone record locally and then just send the
file over and Carl smashes it all together into one good file.
So teaching them how to work software and stuff, maybe a day
or two before the show, we've done it leading up five minutes
before the show. It's a lot of stress.
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Hey duds, me and Orbits were talking about this last night
when you were working on your Mustang and we were discussing
like what inside MC does for they're kind of like pre guest
prep. Oh no.
So I'm going to steal that and I'm going to make a document.
I I can I can give a quick rundown of it if if I won't I
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won't say too much but just so people know the context it is
yourself done as well. It'd be bad if I if I went this
entire panel without mentioning Ajx.
He was a Co host of midweek MC when that was alive and he still
helps out behind the scenes. Yeah, we we were hoping to have
him on this as well. So shout out to AJ.
But scheduling issues, Look at that.
See let's you prove your point. It's all planned you.
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Don't even record on Wednesdays at 7:00 PM.
That was the only day you could do so.
If everyone like I needed to reschedule a guest because I was
busy or failing on, well, whatever, he just won't be able
to make it sadly. But our little thing that we was
mainly me, but he kind of helpednarrow it down as being correct,
was my pre podcast document. And So what I do is I'll call
the content creator or whoever it is that I'm in a call with.
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Maybe it'll just be someone being a Co host.
I'll give them the rundown as well.
And I have this like it's nine, it's nine points.
But the last two points are mic check and turn off the
condensation thing that sits on my window still because it makes
a lot of noise. But the first 7 is that stuff
that I need to tell the guests. So for instance, like this is
how it's going to work. If you want, I want to say this,
if you don't want to say this, the rule behind swearing because
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obviously inside MC is a little bit different.
And then just like general how the intro is going to work.
That kind of just, it's so helpful because I, I don't do
what you guys do. I record everyone's audio and
1:00 because I don't have. If I want to keep the consistent
schedule I keep, I can't. I edit 2 audios at once.
It just takes too much time for me and I've done it before and
it's great. But at the same time it's a lot
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easier for me to do a quick audio test and just record audio
audio in one and then I just addit up.
I get people to record the audioalso because sometimes discord
has a little thing where it likes to lag out for about 10
seconds or if they're saying something important I need to
hear it. But for the most part it's just
me recording on my end. Yeah, So these live shows,
obviously we use the Discord audio, but like normally we'd
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we'd want local audio as much aswe can.
It's just kind of a preference thing.
Nothing that we do is right or wrong, nothing that you guys is
right or wrong. It's always like what you think
is best for your kind of situation.
So if you guys listening to thisand you're thinking about
creating content like just do what works for you.
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We we like having live audio. You find it easier with your,
you know, the, your insane schedule to, to use one file.
And that's, that's perfectly valid.
You know, there's, there's so many ways of, of doing things
and it kind of goes back to whatwe were talking about before
about the creativity of Minecraft.
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There's so many different ways of doing everything that it
just, you know, if everyone did it the same way, it'd be boring,
you know? You've got to be unique.
Yeah, exactly. You've got to be unique.
I mean, I don't, I don't know many other Minecraft in game
conventions. Yeah, Coupon has kind of mashed
out the park with this one. Exactly year after year after
year. And they've already confirmed
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2025. They've said it so much on
stream, it's basically happeningnow.
Go. Of course, of course.
No one's cancelling this. No, definitely not.
Yeah, when you think about it, there's not a lot of like in
person stuff anymore either. Yeah, Minecon's kind of gone
away. So this, this is the big
convention for Minecraft. At least.
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I look forward to it every year.Thank you, it's definitely like
the the pub quiz at the start and then not squad game show at
the end. It's kind of my like perfect
weekend doing cubed every year II Gen.
I genuinely look forward to it every year.
Oh, thank you. We look forward to hosting it
every single year. You know, we've, we know that
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people enjoy coming here. We know that people enjoy like
helping raise money for such a special cause.
And we just didn't aim to put ona weekend that people are going
to enjoy. Like as you said, there isn't
really any Minecraft conventionsout there anymore.
It's kind of there were and now they're on and now you can like
we've kind of just hit on this like nice little corner in the
market that's really hitting home.
(35:30):
And you know, we've managed to like, as you've seen, like we
had a set last year, but like the set, this year's
dramatically, like improved. That massive grade is inside.
That is so big, get too close toit, you get dizzy.
But it's just so fun and so exhilarating to see people
(35:51):
enjoying it so much in the survey.
You know, like I'm getting the camera back to the stage.
Keep Cab's gone again. Great timing.
It was Albany about it was Albany.
He's he's hacking you. Yeah, he started the fight.
Yeah, but it's just, it's just the best, you know, having
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something unique, having something special to be able to
do so much with it. And you know, we've almost
smashed on target from last year.
Yeah, that's crazy what it's up to already.
It's like $11,000. At the moment it's like 12100 or
something. Yeah, 12100 was our goal last
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year, our target for this year to beat and that's how much we
raised last year. And it's just we're well on our
way to smashing that out of the park.
Definitely. And you're going to do some
inventive stuff later to get that out, aren't you?
Yes, we are straight after this.It's.
The donator form. It is the donator form after
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this. Absolutely.
That's awesome. That's awesome.
And a big shout out to like yourself over the years for
having us on and helping us out and stuff.
You guys. Are and Ben, as well as Ben as
well has been great and stuff and everyone's just awesome.
Our Lord and Savior Ben. Your Lord and Savior.
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Where would we be without him? Let's exactly, exactly, exactly.
Carly has sadly left. No, I.
Can still hear them. It's.
Because my computer is elsewhere.
No, no. It's opening again, not.
Again, and you're talking, you're talking from the big
screen behind us that's we we get one of those it's all like
you guys so. Yeah, yeah.
That's that's I'm up there. I promise.
(37:42):
It's just turned off at the moment, but you are there.
We can hear audio. We just.
Can't see you. Yeah, Technical difficulties.
It wouldn't be. It would not be a live episode
of the withering effect without some kind of technical
difficulties. Yep, we always end up restarting
our live streams like three times because even me or duds or
the tech messes up. So we feel your pain when you're
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doing all these live shows for Cubed So.
Good isn't. It it all works out in the end
though. I think people, it does, people
kind of relate to it as well. They see that it's kind of like,
you know, it's genuine, it's in person, it's live, it's going to
happen. Just flow with it.
Goodness, yes, absolutely. And if you don't understand
(38:29):
that, then you've never done a live production.
Yeah, if you guys think this is an easy thing to do, try it
yourself. Oh.
No, absolutely not. Absolutely not.
Absolutely. Or do what I do and get a coral.
Yeah. Yeah, give all the stress to go.
Good. Idea when I give them all the
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credit, Carl is like 75 to 85% of the withering effect.
Don't give cubed ideas. They'll have me come into the
office next door. Go do you just you fix things.
I'm just like, you're busy next year, you're busy next year, do
you want to come down? You're in the UK anyway, It's
just a train away. Exactly.
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And a fellow vampire. A fellow vampire.
Join the lack of sleep train. Yeah, coming to our office.
We do actually all get enough sleep.
Here it is. It is completely fine.
As we say that for legal reasons.
No, no, genuinely. Like, even though we all got
like in at like 2:00 in the morning last night.
(39:31):
Like yeah, I hope we all have hotel rooms literally just
across the road. No, it's.
Not like we have to go very far.Yeah, I have this idea of you
all sleeping on the office floor.
Yeah, I mean probably. Have you not seen the tents in
in the back? Of the tents, yeah.
When they swung that camera around before, we were like, ah,
there's the tents, That's where they sleep.
(39:54):
Yeah, you know those chairs thatare on the set for?
Some. Of us sleep and the rest of us
are in the kitchen. No, you, you guys do a great job
and having that and having that screen has really like allowed
you to do so much stuff this year, like the murder mystery
stuff with like the evidence on the screen and stuff.
It's been absolutely fantastic. Yeah, I wonder what you're going
(40:15):
to do next year, how you're going to, how you're going to
beat a massive screen. That's the challenge.
Go on a stadium screen next. That is the that is the, that is
the the challenge to beat, definitely.
Do we have, do we have any finalthoughts?
(40:35):
We're getting close to the end of our slot, yeah.
Do we have any final slot? Final thoughts guys?
I just want to say, I guess thisis less podcast more as my kind
of view on content creation. I just, I kind of just wanted to
mention it because of mine as well.
I think a lot of time when it comes to content creation and
making content is that people really want it to work.
(40:56):
And that's completely fine. But I think some people want it
too much. I think.
I think there's wanting it too much, which is I think why was
like during Covic, because it's all I did and I really wanted it
to be something. But now that I've grown up, I've
kind of established the I've really wanted to work, but I'm
also really satisfied and happy with the content I'm making.
Yeah. And I think it's a fine line.
And I think YouTube, hopefully in the next few years, it
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probably won't. I'm hoping this very much just
me hoping that kind of goes downthe road of have fun with
content creation again and do what you would enjoy and show
yourself in your videos as opposed to what works.
Because I think a lot of time, you know, I think what what
coupon hits the mark with is because it brings everyone who
can come to conventions, You know who, sorry, everyone who
can't go to conventions because the time zones, because of money
(41:41):
restraints, because the travel constraints, they can just log
on to Minecraft and shop, right?A lot of time people meet people
in person and they're amazing. But at the same time, like
they're also not the same peopleyou see in videos and not a bad
thing. But at the same time, it's kind
of because people really want tomake content creation work that
you do sometimes kind of alter who they are.
Slightly, and we were saying last night when we were
(42:02):
discussing this like don't chasestats, don't make everything
about stats. Have fun and the people who
enjoy your content will follow. Like don't be like obsessive
about numbers because you'll just drive yourself mad.
You genuinely will like. For me, I don't make an episode
(42:23):
that I don't like to watch. So all of my stuff I get my my
YouTube videos are niche and they are not for everyone, but I
enjoy them and that's what keepsme going.
Making the content is like, hey,yeah, I would watch that.
So I'm very, that is me that there's no well, except for I I
(42:44):
was told by a family member, I mumble a lot and I sound the not
the best, so I should talk with a smile.
So when you hear people talk about their YouTube voice,
that's just me putting a smile on to talk.
So it was. Like this?
Yeah, so finding your voice is big, but also don't be anyone
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other than you. Exactly.
Just be yourself. And on that wonderful note,
should we? Should you read your giant
script? Or you like made the script 3
paragraphs like what are you doing?
Go on, go on. It's not that bad.
That's going to do it for today's show.
But before I have Carl read us out, I want to say a huge thank
you to Orbitz from inside MC andCharlie from Cubed for joining
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us. I also want to say a huge thank
you to our patrons who are supporting the show.
Our milk level patrons are Arrington, Omni, Fragile Rock, J
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The Withering Effect Orbitz. Where can everyone find your
content? See, I didn't write a script for
this. I probably should have.
I'm just gonna freeboard this. Sorry.
It I don't have a patron, I justnever did one.
I wouldn't really know what to put there.
I'm not like you guys. You guys are so advanced
compared to me. But if you're looking at
anything me related, funny enough, other than my streams in
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orbits, all of me related stuff is inside MC genuinely.
So just I genuinely, if you go onto Google Now and search up
inside MC, you'll come up with all of that stuff.
I need to shop before some like college program, which is pretty
cool. I'm big time now.
So it shows the wiki. We have a website inside MC,
which is just shows everything you need to know about me.
The team. This podcast will probably be
(44:34):
put on there somewhere as well once it gets uploaded on the
withering effect, because going out on their channel and I'll
just promote it through them. And yeah, I just want to say
thank you guys so much for helping organizers.
Thank you cubes con for letting this be possible and thank you
for everyone who showed up. I was getting you nervous We'd
have about like, I guess this isme worrying, you know, like not
not that we'd have less people than there are now, but I wasn't
sure what to expect and turn outeven just from people sitting in
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the crowd and kind of really like living the experience and
game is just crazy. So thank you so, so much for
going out. Thank you.
No worries patrons, we'll be doing a post show with orbits
from our booth here at Cubecon on our Discord.
Everyone else, thank you so muchfor joining us.
We hope you've enjoyed the panel.
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So look how much better that wasthan mine.
Oh my God. I ride them though.
That was so clean. I just, I just waffle.
I ride them so you know. I read so good you did.
You've got one more duds. You can do this.
Actually, say it duds quickly before you say something, go for
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you say your script for anyone who's here in this server right
now, you, I don't think they'll be able to hear us when you do
it. But if you want to be, I think
you're recording it in the video, right?
And yeah, we are. We're going to be in the booth.
It's over there where I'm hitting right now in that
direction. It's by if you TP to X14D when
it sends if you want to be in the video and we're going to be
staying there for you guys AFK for 30 minutes, but we're going
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to be talking about something so.
Yeah, definitely. There you go.
This show's been brought to you by our digital producer Carl,
myself, Orbitz and Charlie. The amazing music you hear
throughout the show is created by the one and only Decoy.
Everyone's social media info canbe found in the show notes.
You guys have been awesome. Thank you so much for getting
withered with us. Should probably go drink your
milk now. Bye.
See you guys. See you later, everybody.
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Bye. Cue that outro music production.
We're going to add guys. We are clear.
Thank you guys. That was.
(47:02):
That was amazing.
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