January 29, 2025 • 57 mins
In this episode, DuDs and Carl are joined by aubni and Flazzerty from our 'Let's Create Together' server. Join us as we talk through our experiences getting to grips with the Create mod.
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(00:16):
Hey everyone, welcome to the Withering Effect episode 184.
Today's date is November 2nd, 2024 and I am duds, or duds
versus to the rest of the interwebs.
And I'm Carl, you may know me asCarl rides.
Today we have Albany and Flazatywith us from the Let's Create
Together server. Welcome to the show guys.
Hello. Hello.
(00:37):
Carl has such a great podcast voice.
He didn't sound like this literally 30 seconds ago.
Hey, you've got to put on a showfor these good people, Duds.
I don't want to be a Co host, I'm a producer.
Listen to you. I have a lot to do my friend.
Yeah, but you've got the voice for it.
I know, I know. I'm just I'm a master of all
(00:59):
trades, let's put it that way. You hear how big his ego is now?
Oh. It's massive.
So duds, What have you been doing recently?
Lots of stuff, little bit of it actually consisted of Minecraft
this month. Nice.
Obviously the Let's Create server, if anyone's familiar
with my channel you've seen I'vebeen producing episodes on that,
(01:20):
trying to produce an episode tonight.
But yeah, it's a server where we're getting together to learn
Minecraft Create mod. Obviously Omni's cheated and has
his own single player. Wah ha ha.
Cheetah. It's actually worked out great
for us because Omni's been a great teacher.
So anytime we have questions andstuff, he he's been able to
(01:43):
guide us through there like where to start, where to go
next? What's what's the next big thing
we've got to do? Like I'm pretty sure he's still
sitting there going, guys, it's been like weeks.
Where's the crushing wheels? Why do we not have crushing
wheels yet? Hey, hey, hey, hey.
I built a lift. Come on.
Carl's whole base is an elevator.
Honestly the crushing wheels aremy my next project.
(02:04):
They're not done by like next week.
And we can tell the time now on the server because of me.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Blaz has a giant.
Clock and the bamboo arm that I was very impressed that you
worked out on stream. That's thanks to you and all
your YouTube tutorial forms. I just looked at yours and was
like oh OK that's how that works.
Hey what could I say? I like my YouTube tutorials.
(02:28):
I like to know what I'm doing. I was very impressed that you
worked out when the machine was spinning, that you worked out
how to change it so it actually went back and forth properly as
you wanted. I was like, you know what?
This guy knows what he's doing. Considering that people in chat
going no, it'll just do that now.
You can't change that. That'll just do that now.
Exactly. And we worked it out, yeah.
And then I thought I could have done this for the drill last
(02:50):
week when I broke that, I mean, when Cole broke that.
Yeah, yeah. This, this, this, this
conspiracy that I broke the drill.
I wasn't even on the server whenit crashed.
You're the server admin. It crashed.
I blame you. Well.
In respect, the reason I thoughtCarl broke the drill is because
I went to get the drill and it was at Carl's lift.
So I assumed Carl was the last one to use it.
(03:13):
So I assumed Carl broke it. That's.
Because he put it. There, I've got this hopeful
thing where I put the drill backafter a few stick duds.
Mm Hmm. Mm, hmm.
Flaz said that because the drillis sitting at my base right now,
because I've I have, I've had togo and get it like three times
to finish digging out this stupid room that I'm making.
(03:34):
And I am too lazy to empty the drill out.
Yeah, so. Don't worry, I'll make a whole
system to empty the drill. Let's not forget Flaz called us
all the evil people on the server.
We were all the evil people and he was the good guy.
And now he's over here framing Carl for breaking the drill.
Now we're all evil. You look, keep building these
(03:55):
evil looking bases and then and then Albany and Albany goes and
builds an evil mini game. Yeah.
I mean, that's kind of on par for Omni.
Yeah, that's all he did on Ripple was build games that
killed us. Yeah, or tricked you into
killing yourself. Yep.
(04:15):
Yep, all of that. Good times, good times.
I'm working on an episode. I'm getting some XP.
Finally getting going. Noise I I figured out how to
move spawners and I've located 2spawners, 2 skeleton spawners by
the way. Yep, I'm at the part now where I
just need to move these spawnersinto place, which probably won't
(04:38):
go as easy as I'm hoping you, but yeah.
And then it's just kind of decorate the room.
I need to get some enchanting tables and stuff ready.
The next project after this. Oh, I had to use the speed
controller Ogney that we were planning on using on the
upgraded iron farm. It's OK.
So we'll have to make a new one of those.
But yeah, I want to get this XP room done and then I'd like to
(04:59):
upgrade the iron farm because I'm using a lot.
I don't know what you guys but I'm jointing a stack or two a
time at the iron farm. Yeah, I feel I should AFK that
one of these states replace everything that I've take.
Well, we need to get rid of the Flint at the iron farm too.
So our create iron farm has a byproduct of Flint because we're
making cobble and then we're grinding it up into gravel and
(05:22):
then washing it into iron Nuggets in Flint.
And the Flint outnumbers the iron Nuggets like 4 to one.
Yeah. So I every time I get on the
server, first thing I do is run over to the iron farm and empty
out the Flint. We'll we'll get that worked out
at some point. But yeah, Abney Flaz, what have
you guys been up to? I know we spoiled a little bit
with the clock in the evil mini game.
Well, I I released a video from said server as we're recording
(05:47):
it was last week, a week ago. Yeah, I made a big evil mini
game, which isn't actually that evil, but you'll see we we, we
just need to test it out. You'll see it's not that bad.
And since then I've been playingin my single player world.
So I'm going to try to alternatebetween both and yeah, I'm just
making some cool machines, making some steam engines in my
(06:09):
single player world should be fun.
And then I'm going to come back in and, you know, take care of
everything that you don't take care of.
Get us on your evil game. Yeah, also that, yeah.
Yeah, it's going to say he's going to, he's going to kill us
all. That's that's what he says.
Take care of. Precisely what I meant.
What about you flowers? What have you been up to?
(06:30):
You've been there playing your haunted house map I believe.
Yeah, I got offered the chance to run a map made by someone
from my stream chat because I only found this out recently
through watching a podcast that I'm actually considered a
streamer now, which I didn't consider myself as because I'm
so used to making videos. But yeah, I guess that's where I
(06:52):
am now because my videos are so rare.
So one of the people from chat that I've previously made
content with offered to make me a map and I said, yeah, go on
then, it'll be fun. It was not fun.
It was fun to watch. It's.
Not fun at all. It was.
It's a mind bending horrible place and basically I was spoon
fed all the clues because I'm old and tired and I didn't get
(07:16):
how it worked at all. But yeah it was.
It was a lot of fun. It was frustrating to edit to
begin with because there's like 3 hours worth of footage and I
wanted to get it down to something that was reasonable.
And thanks to a poll in my discord it was somewhere between
an hour and 30 minutes. And in the end would knowing
that I had that benchmark actually came quite fun to edit
(07:36):
and take things out and it's doing really well on view so I'm
I'm happy. In between that I've fought the
dragon on my single player stream and as Carl said, I've
managed to work out how to make a bamboo farm, which I'm so
happy about. Which is great because bamboo is
awesome for like chess and you know, all that kind of stuff
that you don't really want to make with your good wood, you
(07:58):
just want to use bamboo for it. So having a good source of that,
they're having that supply is really good and it works really
well. And I was on there a little bit
earlier and yeah, it's full already.
So yeah, loads of good bamboo there.
Awesome. Yeah, I've just got to work out
how to do one of those fault storage things that I think are
one of your contraptions. Oh yeah, the I use that on the
(08:20):
precision mechanism which we need for like power things that
does was talking about earlier for the iron farm.
Speed controller. Speed controller.
That's the one. Yeah, that thing's cool.
That thing is cool, and I use Vault storage on that.
So yeah, tune into Flazer's nextstream and he'll be He'll be
whizzing up another contraption,I'm sure.
(08:40):
Or just smacking my head up against a brick wall hoping chat
will help me. Eva's a good time.
Yeah, I need to get my stream work out.
I don't know what actually Carl.I think I figured out what might
have happened on my stream. The last two streams I've tried
the latency has been massive like 5 minutes and I have low
(09:02):
latency turned on on twitch. It doesn't make much sense why
it's so bad and I was constantlygetting just lagged by people
watching but I wasn't dropping any frames so I was very
confused what was going on and then I found out my G force
needed an update. Because you run your stream off
your GPU, don't you? I do so it was running the
(09:25):
encoder, but it I think the update messed it up and I only
realized this when I got on my laptop because it my laptop runs
a lot of stuff through its GPU and things were acting up and it
popped up. Hey, you have an update.
So I went over to my my desktop and I went, oh, it's had an
update for like 2 months now that I've never done think
(09:46):
that's what was going on. Interesting.
Either way, I'll give it one more go, and if for some reason
it doesn't work, I'm going to have to redo my entire stream
setup. Come over to the YouTube side.
Yeah. Yeah, it's not bad YouTube
streaming because you've alreadygot your audience.
Yeah, and we use it for the weathering effect streams, like
when we do them from likecube.com and we do them from
(10:07):
Minecraft Live. We always do them on YouTube
because we don't have a Twitch account for the podcast and it
works really well. I had a few issues with Tango
streams recently, like buffering, say Twitch is not my
favorite platform at the moment because obviously your stream
was 5 minutes behind is was buffering and stuff and Flazer
streams. I've always never had an issue.
(10:29):
And other people that I watch onYouTube, like I watch a lot of
tech, you know, streams and stuff and they they stream on
there and it's all perfectly fine.
So, but you've got that affiliate thing where you get
money from the ads. So I know Twitch is kind of good
for that kind of stuff. Well it's not even really that,
all the stuff you say you had trouble with Twitch.
(10:50):
I have that same problem for YouTube and it's been like that
for over a year. Like whenever I try to watch
Arrington live stream, there's massive latency and it's
constant buffering. So if someone live streams on
there I don't even watch it. I wait till it's over and
YouTube renders the video file and then I watch the VOD.
It's disappointing. That's why streaming on YouTube
(11:12):
scares me, even though I have a viewer base built in.
But if Twitch is also now just doing that, there's no real
point in staying on Twitch. Yeah, yeah.
Oh, I get maybe 60 bucks a year on the affiliate, so I I'm not
too worried about that big money.
Yeah, it it's not a money thing.It was Twitch was the best
(11:33):
streaming platform for a long time.
Of course I still stand by Mixerwas the best until they decided
to start paying massive creatorsto come on and stop working on
the product. Yeah, but.
Should we get into the news realquick?
Yeah, just one thing from me first.
I have spent the last week or soupdating the Patreon server,
(11:55):
getting everything, all my ducksin a row and getting the Patreon
server updated to 121.1, not 121.2 because our plug insurance
don't support it. Yeah, but when they do, we'll
update you with that as well. We now support Bedrock, however.
However I need to make this veryclear.
(12:15):
We have no official support for PlayStation Xbox on Nintendo
Switch. This is because you require a
version of Bedrock that can connect to 3rd party servers.
This includes the PC version, the Android version, and the
Apple iOS version. There are ways to do it, but we
(12:35):
don't officially support it because it involves messing with
DNS and it's not officially supported by Mojang on those
latforms. But if you want to join the
patron and use those workarounds, we can't stop you.
O if you do want to do that, that's totally U to you.
Things like Redstone will work the Java way and bedrock
scaffold style bridging is not supported on the server either.
(12:58):
We can't guarantee that all bedrock features will be
supported and that will performance will be stable on
all hardware. However, we do now have bedrock
support. So if you guys are on PC,
Bedrock or the mobile version, or you want to use those
workarounds for consoles, Patreon server does now support
Bedrock, which is really cool. I've been on it with my iPad
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version of Minecraft, that's Bedrock, and it works perfectly
fine. All the systems that we have in
place to verify users based on the Patreon account all work.
Limits on things like the plot world, all work and all that
jazz. So yeah, if you guys are on
Bedrock and want to join the Patreon server with those
caveats in place, then go for it. patreon.com/the Withering
(13:44):
Effect. Cool.
When you do the editing of this,those caveats, you really want
to speed it up. So it's like those adverts where
it's like, yeah, conditions, terms.
And conditions apply to patreon.com/within a factory
details that kind of jazz. Perfect.
He didn't speed that up at all. That was literally.
Called. Although our last episode that's
(14:06):
live on the cube con stage, you did an excellent job of reading
those scripts. I was very proud, yes.
I was like, he nailed them in front of all those people.
I'm clutched. When it counts.
Now watch me mess up a simple word.
And our favorite walrus cube come.
Hey, you said he was second. He is, he is.
(14:31):
He's cool, though. He's got a, He's got a heart.
I'm just going to kill you even harder now.
I don't doubt, I don't. Your lift is not going to go up
anymore, it's just straight downto the bottom of the world.
I mean, it does that anyway. That's true too.
I'm going to put a Carl modem every game I made.
(14:51):
Turn it up. Just has lava everywhere and
arrows and all that. It doesn't even let him play, it
just drops him to his death. Yeah, so news, we actually had a
snapshot release. Bundles of Bravery came out.
I, I'm not going to talk much about Bundles of Bravery because
(15:13):
it's bundles. They've been around for forever.
Yeah, but you could color them now.
Yeah, you should be able to color a lot of stuff in
Minecraft that you can't. Just putting that out there.
I wonder why Mojang stuff don't come on this podcast anymore.
Yeah, well, see, that's just it.I actually really like the
snapshot that just came out. They found a a great way to
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incorporate wanting to go to thePale Gardens.
I think eye blossoms look awesome.
That's super cool and exactly what people were asking for.
And they they wanted some flowers in their garden and now
you have them and you can get two different dye types
depending on what time of day you pick the eye blossom.
That's cool. Which again, is very cool Resin.
(15:57):
I like the idea of resin. Even the resin block is pretty
cool. But the resin brick, that's an
ugly texture. Yeah, I don't know any other way
to say it's an ugly texture. I don't I don't like it.
And that's that's kind of a personal, it looks slimy.
Well, it is resin. Yeah, resin is slimy.
That when it's hardened into bricks.
(16:19):
What did you say to me the otherday?
You said. What is their obsession with
orange lately? Yeah, like you look back, it's
orange and pink. Those two colors for some reason
seem to be in just about every update.
And I'm, I was trying to figure out why, but like, 'cause like
if you look at the, the new pale, pale oak, yeah, it's a
(16:40):
nice white texture, but it's really pink.
It's got the slightest pink hue to it.
I'll take it. I know Carl take it.
I'm not a fan of it. I would rather use quartz
because it's got that slight blue hue to it or Gray hue and I
prefer that one. That's just me.
But yeah, I can't. I can't not see super light pink
when I look at. Kind of like how Carl can't see
(17:02):
anything but purple when lookingat Blackstone.
Oh yeah, that thing is not blackguys.
Sorry. Called Deep State Blackstone and
Blackstone Deep Slate and we'd be fine, but don't call that
thing Blackstone when it's got purple in it.
Or die on this hill along with my concrete stairs and slabs.
See. Yeah.
(17:22):
I would pay for concrete stairs and slabs.
There you go, Mojang. Come on.
We will pay for the next update.I will pay for it if it had
concrete stairs and slabs it andgun metal wood.
And vertical slabs. This is where I think create is
going to be bothersome because we're playing on just create and
(17:42):
create Deco. Is that right Abney just those
two mods. And basically Deco is just a
supporting mod that adds a couple of prettier blocks to the
game. And it's amazing.
I'm like these, these are these are the things I want in vanilla
Minecraft. Why can't we have these in
vanilla Minecraft? And what we get is the resin
brick block, which really only goes with shroom lights.
(18:03):
I said this to Abney last week although it for when he was on
and I said I don't think I can go back to vanilla now.
Well, like if they come out and they let us dye the resin blocks
because you can add color to resin, that would that would
help a lot. Hopefully they don't do like
with terracotta. When you color the terracotta,
(18:23):
the colors are off because it's going under the premise you're
using the original terracotta color plus this new dye color.
And that's why the colors don't like black is really brown,
whites really pink. So I would like to be able to
dye those colors and have them actually need the colors I dye.
I know we get that with concrete, but if you're not
going to give us concrete stairsand slabs, this would be a good
(18:46):
way to make up for that, if thatmakes sense.
But yeah, I don't like, I don't like the the slimy glistening
part of the texture on the bricks.
I I just don't like it. That's fun.
Yeah, I'm not too fussed with the with the new bricks and
walls and things, but I do like how you can put blobs of racing
on blocks. Yes, that.
That's cool. I am liking that.
(19:08):
That's really nice. I wish they'd do that with more
things. Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
Like this, this snapshot, I actually like way more than the
Minecon live presentation. I mean, I feel they add way more
on this one than that, except for the textures.
I don't like that. And I don't like how bees get
poisoned with eye blossoms. I'm going to make a stand here
(19:30):
if we couldn't have fireflies because frogs might eat them.
Yeah. And die then.
We can't have eye blossoms killing bees.
I mean, let's face it, that wasn't the reason.
I know, I just wish Mojang wouldjust say that wasn't the reason.
It kind of helps explain why there's no creatures there
though, because if even bees accidentally make their way and
(19:51):
then they get poisoned, explainswhat?
There's no other animals there. That's true.
Well, I would like to see the bees act like Hoglunds with the
blue mushroom. Where they just avoid it.
So if they're flying along and they see an eye blossom, they
just immediately 180 and go the other direction.
Yeah, but then BAI pathfinding would have to be decent.
Hey, they've actually been working on the BAI.
(20:13):
They have been, so there's that.I tell you we'll be happy
though, Jimbo. If those bees are getting
poisoned, he's going to be well.Happy he would just make a
forest of just straight wither roses and eye blossoms.
He so would as well. Is that it for the news?
Yeah. I mean, we can go into depth and
we probably will hear at the basically the end of the year,
(20:33):
the start of the year on our next episode.
But we really want to talk aboutcreate.
So we're going to kind of just briefly do the news and we'll
come back to it at a later date.Let's move on to polls.
Last episode, we put up a poll up on YouTube and Spotify.
Obviously we were live from Create from Create.
(20:56):
We were live from Cube com. So I basically asked, have you
guys heard of Cubed or visited it?
And as usual, our Spotify audience and our YouTube
audience are very different. Basically our YouTube audience
were basically split between heard of it, never gone, visited
once or twice, love it every year.
And our Spotify community was basically like, never heard of
(21:19):
it till now and heard of it but never gone.
So you Spotify people get on Cube 2025.
It's going to be a great time. We'll be there again.
Duds is in charge of designing our booth for next year.
Yep. This is news to me.
I have created him a a plot in the plot for him to design it
(21:40):
on. Oh boy.
So I want to see what he comes up with for a cube base.
So I'm giving you a lot of time.I got a full year.
Maybe 11 months until the next cube con to come up with an
idea. So yeah.
That's such such a great way to get dots to do it.
Just announce it while you whileyou're being recorded on the
podcast. Yeah, he didn't tell me this at
(22:02):
all until right now. That's the best way to get him
to do anything is just put it onthe show.
Oh, that's great. Come on.
You've got a year. You act like I don't do nothing.
Do I not constantly offer? Hey, Carl, do you need help?
Carl, I can do this for you. Do you need help?
And you're like, no, no, I've got it.
I've got it, I've got it. But this thing you could do.
(22:23):
We expect screenshots every podcast now, just to see how
it's going over the next year. That's not going to happen
because then I'm just going to place one block a day just to
mess with Carl. Why not?
It's a 15 by 15 by 11 square. We'll get there, don't you
worry. I've seen TikTok videos where
people are just doing one block a day builds.
We'll get there, we'll get there.
(22:43):
You guys get on the cube com bandwagon because it's a really
good it's a really good event for charity as well.
Supports special effect and the tree planting thing that I can't
think of, but they they raise thousands of people who struggle
with gaming and the charity makes like special game
controllers for them for disabled people to help them
(23:05):
play video games just like we do.
So it's a really good cause and a really good event as well.
So yeah, Cube con next year all.Right before I talk about some
experiences I've had with Createand we ask our guests, here's
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All right, Create. How do we want to start?
I want to ask flowers first. No.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Obney's got a load of experience
with Create. We've seen a bit of great Flaz.
What made you want to join a Create server?
I think is the first question I want to ask you.
Well, I've seen some of the bigger content creators out
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there messing around like some of the hermits were messing with
it. It seemed like a lot of fun and
Redstone is the logic that I really don't get How one block
Howard can move another block three blocks away.
It baffles me, but with the create being cogs levers, that's
kind of what I like with technology.
(24:34):
I like that idea that you move alever and something happens,
cogs turning in the background. I think I think I remember also
seeing on one of Tango's where you can get light bulbs that
light up with words in or something like that.
That's brilliant. I love that and I think it melds
really well with vanilla becausea lot of mods, they seem
(24:55):
overpowered or they make things super simple.
I've said it on my stream a few times that some of the mods that
I've seen, they'd literally walkup, right click villager, then
walk around with a villager in their pocket and then they can
just stick them in a bit of glass, throw a zombie in there
as well, and all of a sudden they got an iron farm in less
than two minutes. That's not a challenge, that's
(25:16):
easy and overpowered, whereas Creature seems to be a nice
blend and goes really well with vanilla.
And then Albany asked me and he's like, well, he forward this
involved, then I've got a a. Good example of that is the this
XP spawner room I'm doing right now.
We can do a lot of stuff that I've been wanting to do in
vanilla, including picking up spawners.
(25:38):
Matter of fact, one of the earlyseasons of comic craft before I
joined Ripple and Channel 64, wehad silk touch spawners so you
could pick them up and move them.
And you're right, it is incredibly easy in OP.
We can move them and create, butit's still a lot of work because
you have to create a minecart machine and physically push it.
(25:59):
I can't I try. You can see in the episode, I
tried picking it up with the wrench and it says Mystical
Forest doesn't allow you to do this or something like that.
So I still have to build a waterelevator to get it up to where I
want to. It's it's going to take me a
couple hours just to move this thing 80 blocks.
Yeah, to me that sounds vanillary.
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It it really feels it. I mean, yes, you can't do that
in vanilla, but the fact that you've got to go through all
that to accomplish it, it's a lot better than just silk
touching it and walking away. Yeah, it's very much a great
reward for hard work because youfeel like the work does not
outweigh the reward and the reward does not outweigh the
work you have to put into it. It's and that's the way it's
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been with everything I've done and create.
It feels like it should be vanilla.
Yeah, definitely. That's the big thing.
Like it, it doesn't make things easier, it just makes allows for
more things like moving spawners.
But yeah, it's balanced. You got to work for it.
You got to do something. Going back to the bamboo farm,
I've made bamboo farms in vanilla and you know, couple
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Pistons, an observer collection system with a bit of water.
It's, it's done, it's easy. We've done it 1000 times, but
the thrill I caught from actually working out for me a
new way to harvest bamboo in such a radically different way,
yet vanilla feeling because I'm still using a minecart to do it
And and tracks it was amazing. I really liked that and it's
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something that I'm missing in Minecraft now because
everything's been done. You look for a way to do a farm
in vanilla and there'll be 7080 a hundred videos out there
that's showing you the exact same farm as everybody else as
if they've just invented it, whereas we've created.
I'm not looking at videos or anything like that, although
someone did post one in my Discord earlier.
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So working it out, it just brings a whole new feeling that
that original feeling that I hadwith of Minecraft in the early
days. Yeah, I've said to duds before
that like, I wish I could go back to a time where I didn't
understand Minecraft and start again.
Because those few times when I first got the game and like
started to learn everything was like the best.
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Like you learn something new about Redstone and you'd be
like, Oh my God, that's so cool.And that's exactly how I feel.
We've created like I've, I've done a few things.
I've made the lift, I've made the steak farm.
And then you learn about something new and you're like,
it can do that. It's crazy.
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That's what I was missing. Like I've I've said on this
podcast many times that the updates are not making me want
to play the game. They're not intriguing.
Yeah, where crate is Redstone links like before I made that
elevator, I didn't know what they were and I was like this
wireless Redstone. So, so you like Redstone links?
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That's what I'm getting from. That I love them.
He just keeps talking about them.
That's. The but that's the thing, the
the drill machine. I didn't know you could do that.
I was like my only plan for crate when duds mentioned about
the server was I want to make a lift.
I've seen people make lifts. It looks like a cool way to
enter a base. And then Omni made the drill and
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I was like, you can, you can make a drill and it'll like
drill the blocks for you. You'd have to use a pickaxe.
What is this witchcraft? I don't know, while I was doing
research for that spawner room Ifound there's a way you can give
a sword to a grabber and it willpunch the mobs for you and kill
them. I have not implemented that into
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our room, but you best bet I left room to implement it in
later. Yeah, you, you literally have a
player block. A block that's a player.
That's so cool. It's like how the steak farm
works where you have a a farmland that's producing wheat
and seeds. So the harvester goes round in a
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circle and harvests everything. And then the robotic arm comes
down, takes the wheat, puts it in the chest for the cows, and
then the deployer automatically feeds them.
So they're always breeding, you know, empty cramming and then
being cooked by a campfire in a fan and then into the chest
leather and steak for result to eat.
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And then the seeds are being picked up by that same
mechanical arm and being put in a composter to make it's a slow
supply of bone meal, but it's a supply of bone meal nonetheless.
And that's just so cool that youcan take that one farm, that
wheat farm and turn it into food, turn it into leather, turn
it into bone meal. And in such a way that this
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movement, you know, the the harvesters are spinning around,
the mechanical arm is moving. I love those.
They move all over the place. It's great.
And in that little area, it's probably like a maybe a 15 by 10
area produces all that stuff forus.
And in such an intuitive way, like Flowers was saying, create
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is so intuitive compared to normal Redstone.
Normal Redstone doesn't make anysense if you don't know what
everything does. But create does.
You know, you have a power supply, you have your cogs, you
have your moving mechanisms. It all makes sense.
And I think that's what's made me play.
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I haven't played Minecraft properly in probably about 18
months, two years. Yet the last couple of weeks
I've been on that Create server a lot as we can see by the
community area. I very rarely get on that server
and not see something new. I like in the create mod how if
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you don't know what something does, it's got that inbuilt
instructions videos. Yes.
They're they're really helping me so much.
Yeah. The ponder menu and they they
strongly suggest you use roughlyenough item or there there's
another one for forge, but yeah,that too to show you how to make
stuff. It makes things so so more so
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much more intuitive and easy to figure out how to make stuff.
But everything feels like you were saying before.
Everything feels vanilla. I don't feel like I'm playing
modern. And that was always my problem
with modern. It always felt modern, but
Create doesn't. It feels like an extension of
vanilla. It feels like vanilla plus Plus,
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yeah. Definitely.
Yeah, and the fact that vanilla Redstone interacts with the
create stuff as well, like just was saying earlier, he he has
this might have been off record,I don't know.
But he he's built something and him and Albany were arguing over
not arguing, friendly discussionover the best way to do it and
and does this ended up using vanilla Redstone to do
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something. And Albany was like, well, you
could do it using this and create and just like, yeah, but
it makes sense just to do this because it works.
And I think that's great that there's so many different ways
to get to the same result. Either if you use the creator or
you use your vanilla knowledge, it all works seamlessly
together. Yeah, and there's some some new
Redstone components as well. There's at least 4-5 new things,
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even more if you can't wireless Redstone.
But like you got stuff for like toggle able switches, kind of a
kind of a repeater variance kindof thing.
What? Oh yeah.
Oh yeah, I'm going to have to show you then.
It's great. So like the way I'm saying is I
view Redstone as electrical circuits because that's how I
was taught electrical circuits was Redstone.
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So I don't see a repeater as a repeater.
I see it as a capacitor. And I don't see a comparator as
I see it as a diode switch and stuff like that.
To see create where everything'smechanical.
It is gears, it is pulleys. And I was able to do some fun
mixing of the two components forthe XP room.
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And I was like, wow, OK, this honestly, this needs to be if
you're not playing modded, give create a chance because I know
we talked about earlier mods, they didn't interest me.
Mods again like flies. It felt like it was a way to
make things two OP and it was a collect them all type thing for
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me. You'd have these massive digital
storage systems just so you can collect everything in the game.
And it made no sense to me why you would want to do that.
But create, create feels like a,hey, this is how you can explore
the same territory in a new and interesting way.
And that's what I love about it.I don't feel a rush to collect
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all the, the create things. It's very much a, let's take
your way of thinking and rotate it 90° because now it's a gear.
It's, it's been a lot of fun. It's challenging because there's
some things you have to break your mindset from.
Like when it comes to Redstone, you do everything horizontally.
Even when you're going vertically, you have to have
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horizontal platforms to place the Redstone on.
So everything's like that. Well, in the XP thing, I
realized you can place the beltsat a 90° angle and they still
function the same. Using a gearbox, you can then
have your shafts turned vertically and process power
sideways and it's like, holy cow.
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That was like a huge poof momentfor me.
I was like, OK, we're just getting started.
Yeah, you got to think in 3D now.
Yeah. We are just getting started
though. Yeah, I mean, we really are.
We've built so many cool things on that server already and it's
just scratching the surface and that's what I love.
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My head has got round the createway now.
The the first night we were on the server I was sat there
thinking I am never going to understand how this works.
You remember how long we spent on that vanilla iron farm?
Just just to realize if we were to do the create one, it took
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Omni and I maybe 1/2 hour. Yeah.
And it's worked ever since, whereas the vanilla 1 broke
within 5 minutes. That was a disappointing
evening. Yep.
It was a great learning evening.Yeah, it was.
It was. Yeah, the three of us running
around like headless chickens trying to get zombies get into
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place, and I could just imagine Albany was just stood there.
Good. They will.
Learn. Yep, they will fail and they
will learn their lesson. Sound like a good teacher?
I kind of you know how when people are doing that menacing
thing, they like, stroke their beard?
I imagine Omni does it by like stroking his tusks.
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Precisely. That's the exact image you need
to have. Yeah, that's exactly what it is.
So when please do some fan art of that that that's going to
make my day. That would be great.
I want to see that a little animated GIF.
As you try getting tasks. Yeah.
Love it, love it. I want to ask Omni because
obviously you started way beforeany of us, what got you into
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create? The same thing as everyone has
said already. Never had any interest in, in
modded, but I, I would watch content creators playing it and
I thought it was super cool to see it, ZF in particular with
his own unique creativity. And then I got an opportunity
with some friends, Kelly and mini Wheats.
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They, they were, they had this their own server and they reset
it to click create on it. And I, I asked if I could join.
I'd known them for a little while.
So I, why not? Yeah, I I joined the server, had
a lot of fun, made some mini games, but eventually they got
to other projects and I kind of sort of ended up, you know,
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playing by myself. So that's when I eventually
started my single player world instead.
Was a bit easier to to manage toget back to the actual question.
What got me into create is, yeah, it's seeing the motions,
seeing everything moving becauseright in in vanilla Minecraft,
the only things that really moveare mobs like the villagers.
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And that's why I think people building big towns with
villagers, you know, free roaming the the entire place.
I think that's a quite a popularthing.
And but other than that there, there's nothing much, there's
nothing like that except like Pistons, but then again, like
it's very limited. And yes, seeing all, all that
motion and as you all said, likeit, it feels vanilla.
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And one thing that really convinced me to try it is that
as I said it, it doesn't feel modded.
And I think one of the, the, theimportant things, and that is
the way things look. And I'm, I'm not trying to like
attack any like modders, anyone that makes mods, but oftentimes
they, they look different from vanilla, like the textures, the
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way they're made. And sometimes it's just that,
like it's a programmer who makeswho who wanted to make a big
sword and they made what they could because they're not a pro
pixel art artist. Yeah, they're they're great at
programming, but they're not a texture artist.
Yeah, and, and sometimes it, it just feels a bit different.
But with Create, I feel like it really follows the, I think it's
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called the artistic direction of, of vanilla really feels like
the the person making these textures studied how things look
in regular vanilla Minecraft andmade it to have the same, same
aesthetic so that it blends in. Yeah.
So that it blends in well with vanilla.
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And that that's something that Ireally, really like about it.
Yeah. Like, honestly, at at some point
I had the the hypothesis that itwas actually a side project from
Mojang. There was there was a sub team
of Mojang who made that, who made that mud and published it.
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Under a different name, but it'sactually like made by the real
team. I, I, I have very high doubts
about the veracity of that that that idea, but still it feels
like that. Yeah, like honestly, if you were
to come out and tell me that theteam from Create said, you know
what? We're tired of waiting on
Hightail to do their own thing. We're going to do our own thing
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to go up against Minecraft. I would not be surprised.
Yeah, like the flawlessness in this mod.
Very rarely do we have any kind of glitching or breakage or
anything like that. It just works.
Well, there is, there is stuff, but yeah, it's it's still rare.
Yeah. I mean, saying that, say, you
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won't be surprised if it was a team from Mojang making it.
That's very high praise for the people who make Create,
definitely. Yeah.
Yeah. And I and I don't hide that the
idea it's, yeah, blends in so well.
Yeah, For me, what drew me to create was exactly what you were
talking about on me, though, it looked vanilla.
And the movement, the fact that you could turn your head
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anywhere and see something moving, because that's what's,
that's what's missing from Minecraft.
Minecraft feels very dead sometimes.
You have to very much structure your builds and even a standing
still build can made can be madeto look like it has movement,
but it's all just a perception of the eye.
Whereas in create you can actually have movement.
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You don't have to trick yourselfinto thinking there's movement.
I I absolutely love that and thefact that it, it takes what you
already know and turns it on itsside.
And then like you said, the textures look like they're made
from a texture artist at MO Yang.
Even Deco Deco is a completely separate mod we've just added on
to create to kind of get the full effect.
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And it's like, holy cow, why aren't these blocks already in
the game? I'm obsessed with the new light,
like the Andersite lamps and stuff.
Yes, you are. I'm obsessed.
They're. Pretty cool.
Hey you think about the movementI built a white weeks it took me
to build a windmill in my singleplay vanilla world and the thing
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that haunts me about it is that the windmill doesn't turn and I
am so tempted to recreate it in the create world just so I can
see it turning. Yeah.
One of the very first things you've built flies is a giant
clock with movable hands. It's like, holy cow, like I just
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walked out of my hole because itwas a hole at the time and I was
just like, what is that? Yeah, I saw the clockwork
bearing in the whatever the mod is where you can seal the
blocks. And I was like, is that what I
think it is? So then that that was my
project. Then I had to get to that point
so I could see if it was what I thought it was.
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And yeah, when it turned out it it worked like a clock.
It's that's it. Now I've got a bit of a clock.
I do admire your kind of like I'm not going to look at
tutorials. I'm not going to do what I do
and go on YouTube and go, how doI make a lift?
I, I, I respect so much that yousee something and create and go,
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right? How do I make that do what I
want it to do? And you work it out and you
spend your streams working it out.
I find that brilliant that you kind of have that mentality that
you that you want to work it outfor yourself rather than be told
how to do it. I think that's that's really
cool. That's a big thing that News
mentioned. Flaz does play offline a little
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bit, but for the most part he's doing everything on stream so
there is an audience watching him learn.
I'm laughing at him. Yes, stream brain is a thing.
That that's high stakes as someone who's done the streaming
thing and stuff like having someone look over your shoulder
as you doing it, as you're doingit.
I can't pretend. I can't pretend I'm an expert.
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If I went off and watched a tutorial and then try to
recreate that live, I'd mess that up.
And so there's me trying to pretend to be an expert and then
you see me mess it up. That would be worse for me.
Whereas I'm going in saying I don't know this game the the
server's called. Let's create together.
You're my chat. Let's create together.
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Let's let's work this all out together.
And that's exactly what the server was meant to do.
I love it. It's great that I do have some
people in the chat that do know what they're doing.
Occasionally Albany drops in andhe mentions a little thing like
I did in the last stream that I didn't even know existed.
That wanders off. Yeah, but that was fine because
he's like, use this, this is what it is.
I'm off to make a cup of tea andthen leaves me to work out how
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it works, which is great. It's perfect.
That is not what happened. I said use this.
You want me to come over and show you how it works and you
said no? But then I've got people in
there that think they know what they're talking about, and it
turns out that they don't. That's me but.
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It's, it's all part of it for mebecause I, I really used to like
getting my computer going arounda friend's house, connecting to
a LAN and working stuff out together.
We don't do that so much nowadays because we've got the
Internet. So that's what I want my streams
to be is us all working it out together and when it works I'm
happy. Chatsis static calls in
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disbelief. I mean, I can't lie, yes.
I do one thing and he goes. I can't believe that actually
worked. I was shocked.
Mate. Thanks.
I was like it works. What?
I was expecting this to be a disaster.
What's happening? Sorry to disappoint.
I I was very impressed that you managed to make a blaze farm
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without. I know this was on your other
streams, but like the fact that you managed to make a blaze farm
without dying. And then I go on to let's create
and I do it straight away. Several times to a drill.
Same. I don't think I've died as much
on a Minecraft server as I have on Let's create together.
Yeah, but I'll never is evil. It wasn't even the Nether.
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I died like a good six times before we even got to the
Nether. I remember trying to run from a
witch who like tossed the potionlike an A Major League Baseball
player and it remember to hit mein the back of the head and it
killed me. I was like what is going on
here? Maybe she's built a great
contraption to help her. Yeah, Catapult.
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Oh, can we build trebuchets? Is that a thing?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Because if you use plows, that's
what I'm using in my mini game with a plow, you can kick stuff,
but I don't think I can. I don't.
I think it can move blocks though.
I think it's just entities. That's that's what I'm thinking.
I remember looking at your mini game and I'm like, oh, I wasn't
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going to shoot blocks. I was going to shoot Carl.
Oh yeah, that that's going to work.
Absolutely, if Carl's to pull you.
If TNT's falling, isn't that an entity?
Yeah, probably. Oh yeah, it is.
So you could have the TNT fall, you could have it spin around,
hit it as it falls, and then from your base you can shoot to
the other bad guy across the lake.
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Hey. Bond villain.
I've just got my sheep in order.I know I went and I stole some
wool from you earlier. I've not got all the colours
yet. I kind of miscounted my sheep.
Oh, I I needed white wool because I either way I was just
going to turn it into string because I needed to make a bow
for a dispenser. Yeah, I have clipped them many
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times to go and make string fromthem.
I had two stacks earlier today. I stole some.
I I stole like one piece of wool.
The quick 5 minute sheet farm has got 14 white wool when I
went on the server last. Yeah, but it's more fun things
thing. I stole wool.
Ah, that's why I had 14 then. It's not stealing because it's a
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community farm. It's.
Fine, exactly. It's socialism.
I actually say that in this episode like, hey, this is, I'm
putting it here because this is the community session.
You don't have to go ask anyone to go use this.
If it's in this section, just gouse it.
I mean if it's in my base, go use.
That and I mentioned that I go, we all are pretty good, like go
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take what you want, but I didn'twant anyone to like run into
someone's base and steal or steal stuff that they were going
to have to use on a project theywere just getting ready to do.
Yeah. But yeah, we pretty much know
server etiquette. Yeah, we've been doing this long
enough. Yeah.
It's great, it's fun. What's the one project you're
looking forward to doing the most on?
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Let's create together. Not everyone talk at the same
time. Let's start with Flash.
Thanks, I I really want to decorate my clock so it looks
steampunky because that's something that I've always liked
the look of, but I can't seem tomanage it in vanilla.
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But we've got pipes, cogs, turnythings.
I've got lots of ideas of how I want that clock to turn out.
I didn't realize this, but it seems that I learn more to the
building side of Minecraft. I thought I was more just
rubbish everything, but coming onto the Create server, yes, the
mechanisms are fantastic and I love building the farms, but I
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want that clock to to be something that people look at
and go, wow, that's actually amazing.
I can't wait to see where that goes in future because I already
do that. I always I already walk out and
the first thing I do is go checkthe dime, continue on with my
day. Love it.
I just want to see the great ways of building farms.
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I think is the my kind of main thing I've done.
I've done my lift now I'm going to stop going on about it.
But seeing the the new ways of like me and you duds have done
so many like farms on stream andstuff like we've done a guardian
farm together and other things as well.
Blaze farm together on stream. And I want to see how the create
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way of making all these farms. Yeah, the more efficient way
because because normal Minecraft, most farms are not
the most efficient way of makingthem.
And I think crate has so many different kind of mechanisms and
pieces of equipment that you canuse to make a really efficient
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farm. And that's what I'm kind of
homing in on. Like I want to see how to make
all of these vanilla farms that we need.
We need these farms, but in the crate way.
Yeah. Old nature's coming up with new
ways to kill us all in entertainment value.
Precisely yeah, mini games. I've been doing mini games for a
while and it's fun to get new mechanics.
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I was kind of feeling a bit a bit uninspired for for vanilla
mini games lately and yeah, we get new mechanics.
I I've been playing in single player for a while now so I
can't really make any mini games.
So like exploring the those mechanics now to to kill you in
entertaining ways is going to begreat.
I I already got a few ideas for stuff that couldn't work in
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vanilla, but that will be yeah. Love it.
What about you duds? What?
What kind of projects are you looking forward to?
For me, it's one project, and itwas one project that led to me
starting this server and I wanted a monorail or a train or
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something. Yeah, to connect everyone's
base. I specifically looked for a seed
like it is now, so everyone would, you know, kind of be
forced to live near each other, but give each other enough space
when you're not on top of each other, and we could still fill
in missing areas. That's the one bad thing about
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playing on an S&P is a lot of times you'll build somewhere and
then you move on and you have some spaces that just don't get
touched. And with here, I think we're far
enough away to not really be on top of each other, but we're
close enough where we can touch all the spaces, put our
fingerprints on it and make everything seem whole.
And we're very much in the very scratched surface state.
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But you can already tell that this could be something very
special. And I'm excited to get to that
train stage because one of my plans is to have everyone design
their own car when I do the train.
I'm going to make the train stopso it stops with your car in
your station. Very cool, I've already extended
my lift you have to a strain train station platform.
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I'm ready. Yep, getting up to Carl's train
station platform is going to be a little hard.
There you go Flash. You can spend a stream building
your your cart for the train. Have you ever seen any more
streams? That sounds like 3 weeks worth
of streaming there. It'll be cool.
There's so many cool things for the trains as well.
There's so many like train specific blocks and they look so
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cool when they're all put together.
You can design like little seating areas like first class,
second class economy, like there's so many like different
tiers of of blocks for the trains.
It's super cool and I can't waitto to design A cart for that.
Yeah, I, I assume I'll have to do kind of a like a model like
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not a fully completed, just likea box that says, hey, I need you
to put this here and this here and this needs to line up in
this way. But other than that you can
change everything else. Even then, we could make any
sort of of of carriage and it would all be fine.
It would all line up, trust me. Don't even need to have clear
outlines. Teacher says it'll be fine.
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I mean don't don't make it like 100 block long carriage.
That won't work. That's that's what I was worried
about. I was like, well, if Carl makes
his carriage 10 and I make mine 25, then we have issues.
How can I make this not work? Challenge accepted.
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Oh no. Flazy's like.
How can I break this? How easy will it be to make it
not work? It's not a case of how can I do
it, it's like how often will I do it?
At the end of his stream is. Well, that's someone else's
problem now. Yeah, he just goes and puts it
back at Carl's base. I mean, he that's what he does.
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I'm in the stream and he's like,I'm just going to leave this
here. It's your problem what get
blamed for also. OK, any final thoughts on Create
before we wrap up the show? If you've ever thought about
getting into modded but you're abit worried about it because
you're not sure if you give create a go, it's really good.
Yes, agree. All right, I think that's going
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Bye bye. Bye.
I'm thinking about getting a server I might click that.
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But we don't get the information.
Well, I mean, Jimbo will tell you, but you have to listen
back. I'm listening.
You have to listen to the show in its entirety to help our
watch time. I'll just listen to a password.
He don't want to listen to himself.
Gosh, no, he's horrendous. While joke's on you, Carl is now
going to use you for the outro mess up.
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Blooper. That's it.
Blooper is the word I was looking for.
Crap that that might be the new blooper.
Oh, any anything I say is a blooper.
Hey everyone, welcome to the Withering Effect episode 184.
Today's date is November 2nd, 2024 and I am duds, or duds
versus to the rest of the interwebs.
And I'm Carl, you may know me asCarl rides.
Today we have Albany and Flazatywith us from the Let's Create
Together server. Welcome to the show guys.
Hello. Hello.
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Carl has such a great podcast voice.
He didn't sound like this literally 30 seconds ago.
Hey, you've got to put on a showfor these good people, Duds.
I don't want to be a Co host, I'm a producer.
Listen to you. I have a lot to do my friend.
Yeah, but you've got the voice for it.
I know, I know. I'm just I'm a master of all
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trades, let's put it that way. You hear how big his ego is now?
Oh. It's massive.
So duds, What have you been doing recently?
Lots of stuff, little bit of it actually consisted of Minecraft
this month. Nice.
Obviously the Let's Create server, if anyone's familiar
with my channel you've seen I'vebeen producing episodes on that,
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trying to produce an episode tonight.
But yeah, it's a server where we're getting together to learn
Minecraft Create mod. Obviously Omni's cheated and has
his own single player. Wah ha ha.
Cheetah. It's actually worked out great
for us because Omni's been a great teacher.
So anytime we have questions andstuff, he he's been able to
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guide us through there like where to start, where to go
next? What's what's the next big thing
we've got to do? Like I'm pretty sure he's still
sitting there going, guys, it's been like weeks.
Where's the crushing wheels? Why do we not have crushing
wheels yet? Hey, hey, hey, hey.
I built a lift. Come on.
Carl's whole base is an elevator.
Honestly the crushing wheels aremy my next project.
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They're not done by like next week.
And we can tell the time now on the server because of me.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Blaz has a giant.
Clock and the bamboo arm that I was very impressed that you
worked out on stream. That's thanks to you and all
your YouTube tutorial forms. I just looked at yours and was
like oh OK that's how that works.
Hey what could I say? I like my YouTube tutorials.
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I like to know what I'm doing. I was very impressed that you
worked out when the machine was spinning, that you worked out
how to change it so it actually went back and forth properly as
you wanted. I was like, you know what?
This guy knows what he's doing. Considering that people in chat
going no, it'll just do that now.
You can't change that. That'll just do that now.
Exactly. And we worked it out, yeah.
And then I thought I could have done this for the drill last
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week when I broke that, I mean, when Cole broke that.
Yeah, yeah. This, this, this, this
conspiracy that I broke the drill.
I wasn't even on the server whenit crashed.
You're the server admin. It crashed.
I blame you. Well.
In respect, the reason I thoughtCarl broke the drill is because
I went to get the drill and it was at Carl's lift.
So I assumed Carl was the last one to use it.
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So I assumed Carl broke it. That's.
Because he put it. There, I've got this hopeful
thing where I put the drill backafter a few stick duds.
Mm Hmm. Mm, hmm.
Flaz said that because the drillis sitting at my base right now,
because I've I have, I've had togo and get it like three times
to finish digging out this stupid room that I'm making.
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And I am too lazy to empty the drill out.
Yeah, so. Don't worry, I'll make a whole
system to empty the drill. Let's not forget Flaz called us
all the evil people on the server.
We were all the evil people and he was the good guy.
And now he's over here framing Carl for breaking the drill.
Now we're all evil. You look, keep building these
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evil looking bases and then and then Albany and Albany goes and
builds an evil mini game. Yeah.
I mean, that's kind of on par for Omni.
Yeah, that's all he did on Ripple was build games that
killed us. Yeah, or tricked you into
killing yourself. Yep.
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Yep, all of that. Good times, good times.
I'm working on an episode. I'm getting some XP.
Finally getting going. Noise I I figured out how to
move spawners and I've located 2spawners, 2 skeleton spawners by
the way. Yep, I'm at the part now where I
just need to move these spawnersinto place, which probably won't
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go as easy as I'm hoping you, but yeah.
And then it's just kind of decorate the room.
I need to get some enchanting tables and stuff ready.
The next project after this. Oh, I had to use the speed
controller Ogney that we were planning on using on the
upgraded iron farm. It's OK.
So we'll have to make a new one of those.
But yeah, I want to get this XP room done and then I'd like to
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upgrade the iron farm because I'm using a lot.
I don't know what you guys but I'm jointing a stack or two a
time at the iron farm. Yeah, I feel I should AFK that
one of these states replace everything that I've take.
Well, we need to get rid of the Flint at the iron farm too.
So our create iron farm has a byproduct of Flint because we're
making cobble and then we're grinding it up into gravel and
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then washing it into iron Nuggets in Flint.
And the Flint outnumbers the iron Nuggets like 4 to one.
Yeah. So I every time I get on the
server, first thing I do is run over to the iron farm and empty
out the Flint. We'll we'll get that worked out
at some point. But yeah, Abney Flaz, what have
you guys been up to? I know we spoiled a little bit
with the clock in the evil mini game.
Well, I I released a video from said server as we're recording
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it was last week, a week ago. Yeah, I made a big evil mini
game, which isn't actually that evil, but you'll see we we, we
just need to test it out. You'll see it's not that bad.
And since then I've been playingin my single player world.
So I'm going to try to alternatebetween both and yeah, I'm just
making some cool machines, making some steam engines in my
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single player world should be fun.
And then I'm going to come back in and, you know, take care of
everything that you don't take care of.
Get us on your evil game. Yeah, also that, yeah.
Yeah, it's going to say he's going to, he's going to kill us
all. That's that's what he says.
Take care of. Precisely what I meant.
What about you flowers? What have you been up to?
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You've been there playing your haunted house map I believe.
Yeah, I got offered the chance to run a map made by someone
from my stream chat because I only found this out recently
through watching a podcast that I'm actually considered a
streamer now, which I didn't consider myself as because I'm
so used to making videos. But yeah, I guess that's where I
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am now because my videos are so rare.
So one of the people from chat that I've previously made
content with offered to make me a map and I said, yeah, go on
then, it'll be fun. It was not fun.
It was fun to watch. It's.
Not fun at all. It was.
It's a mind bending horrible place and basically I was spoon
fed all the clues because I'm old and tired and I didn't get
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how it worked at all. But yeah it was.
It was a lot of fun. It was frustrating to edit to
begin with because there's like 3 hours worth of footage and I
wanted to get it down to something that was reasonable.
And thanks to a poll in my discord it was somewhere between
an hour and 30 minutes. And in the end would knowing
that I had that benchmark actually came quite fun to edit
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and take things out and it's doing really well on view so I'm
I'm happy. In between that I've fought the
dragon on my single player stream and as Carl said, I've
managed to work out how to make a bamboo farm, which I'm so
happy about. Which is great because bamboo is
awesome for like chess and you know, all that kind of stuff
that you don't really want to make with your good wood, you
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just want to use bamboo for it. So having a good source of that,
they're having that supply is really good and it works really
well. And I was on there a little bit
earlier and yeah, it's full already.
So yeah, loads of good bamboo there.
Awesome. Yeah, I've just got to work out
how to do one of those fault storage things that I think are
one of your contraptions. Oh yeah, the I use that on the
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precision mechanism which we need for like power things that
does was talking about earlier for the iron farm.
Speed controller. Speed controller.
That's the one. Yeah, that thing's cool.
That thing is cool, and I use Vault storage on that.
So yeah, tune into Flazer's nextstream and he'll be He'll be
whizzing up another contraption,I'm sure.
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Or just smacking my head up against a brick wall hoping chat
will help me. Eva's a good time.
Yeah, I need to get my stream work out.
I don't know what actually Carl.I think I figured out what might
have happened on my stream. The last two streams I've tried
the latency has been massive like 5 minutes and I have low
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latency turned on on twitch. It doesn't make much sense why
it's so bad and I was constantlygetting just lagged by people
watching but I wasn't dropping any frames so I was very
confused what was going on and then I found out my G force
needed an update. Because you run your stream off
your GPU, don't you? I do so it was running the
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encoder, but it I think the update messed it up and I only
realized this when I got on my laptop because it my laptop runs
a lot of stuff through its GPU and things were acting up and it
popped up. Hey, you have an update.
So I went over to my my desktop and I went, oh, it's had an
update for like 2 months now that I've never done think
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that's what was going on. Interesting.
Either way, I'll give it one more go, and if for some reason
it doesn't work, I'm going to have to redo my entire stream
setup. Come over to the YouTube side.
Yeah. Yeah, it's not bad YouTube
streaming because you've alreadygot your audience.
Yeah, and we use it for the weathering effect streams, like
when we do them from likecube.com and we do them from
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Minecraft Live. We always do them on YouTube
because we don't have a Twitch account for the podcast and it
works really well. I had a few issues with Tango
streams recently, like buffering, say Twitch is not my
favorite platform at the moment because obviously your stream
was 5 minutes behind is was buffering and stuff and Flazer
streams. I've always never had an issue.
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And other people that I watch onYouTube, like I watch a lot of
tech, you know, streams and stuff and they they stream on
there and it's all perfectly fine.
So, but you've got that affiliate thing where you get
money from the ads. So I know Twitch is kind of good
for that kind of stuff. Well it's not even really that,
all the stuff you say you had trouble with Twitch.
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I have that same problem for YouTube and it's been like that
for over a year. Like whenever I try to watch
Arrington live stream, there's massive latency and it's
constant buffering. So if someone live streams on
there I don't even watch it. I wait till it's over and
YouTube renders the video file and then I watch the VOD.
It's disappointing. That's why streaming on YouTube
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scares me, even though I have a viewer base built in.
But if Twitch is also now just doing that, there's no real
point in staying on Twitch. Yeah, yeah.
Oh, I get maybe 60 bucks a year on the affiliate, so I I'm not
too worried about that big money.
Yeah, it it's not a money thing.It was Twitch was the best
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streaming platform for a long time.
Of course I still stand by Mixerwas the best until they decided
to start paying massive creatorsto come on and stop working on
the product. Yeah, but.
Should we get into the news realquick?
Yeah, just one thing from me first.
I have spent the last week or soupdating the Patreon server,
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getting everything, all my ducksin a row and getting the Patreon
server updated to 121.1, not 121.2 because our plug insurance
don't support it. Yeah, but when they do, we'll
update you with that as well. We now support Bedrock, however.
However I need to make this veryclear.
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We have no official support for PlayStation Xbox on Nintendo
Switch. This is because you require a
version of Bedrock that can connect to 3rd party servers.
This includes the PC version, the Android version, and the
Apple iOS version. There are ways to do it, but we
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don't officially support it because it involves messing with
DNS and it's not officially supported by Mojang on those
latforms. But if you want to join the
patron and use those workarounds, we can't stop you.
O if you do want to do that, that's totally U to you.
Things like Redstone will work the Java way and bedrock
scaffold style bridging is not supported on the server either.
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We can't guarantee that all bedrock features will be
supported and that will performance will be stable on
all hardware. However, we do now have bedrock
support. So if you guys are on PC,
Bedrock or the mobile version, or you want to use those
workarounds for consoles, Patreon server does now support
Bedrock, which is really cool. I've been on it with my iPad
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version of Minecraft, that's Bedrock, and it works perfectly
fine. All the systems that we have in
place to verify users based on the Patreon account all work.
Limits on things like the plot world, all work and all that
jazz. So yeah, if you guys are on
Bedrock and want to join the Patreon server with those
caveats in place, then go for it. patreon.com/the Withering
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Effect. Cool.
When you do the editing of this,those caveats, you really want
to speed it up. So it's like those adverts where
it's like, yeah, conditions, terms.
And conditions apply to patreon.com/within a factory
details that kind of jazz. Perfect.
He didn't speed that up at all. That was literally.
Called. Although our last episode that's
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live on the cube con stage, you did an excellent job of reading
those scripts. I was very proud, yes.
I was like, he nailed them in front of all those people.
I'm clutched. When it counts.
Now watch me mess up a simple word.
And our favorite walrus cube come.
Hey, you said he was second. He is, he is.
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He's cool, though. He's got a, He's got a heart.
I'm just going to kill you even harder now.
I don't doubt, I don't. Your lift is not going to go up
anymore, it's just straight downto the bottom of the world.
I mean, it does that anyway. That's true too.
I'm going to put a Carl modem every game I made.
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Turn it up. Just has lava everywhere and
arrows and all that. It doesn't even let him play, it
just drops him to his death. Yeah, so news, we actually had a
snapshot release. Bundles of Bravery came out.
I, I'm not going to talk much about Bundles of Bravery because
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it's bundles. They've been around for forever.
Yeah, but you could color them now.
Yeah, you should be able to color a lot of stuff in
Minecraft that you can't. Just putting that out there.
I wonder why Mojang stuff don't come on this podcast anymore.
Yeah, well, see, that's just it.I actually really like the
snapshot that just came out. They found a a great way to
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incorporate wanting to go to thePale Gardens.
I think eye blossoms look awesome.
That's super cool and exactly what people were asking for.
And they they wanted some flowers in their garden and now
you have them and you can get two different dye types
depending on what time of day you pick the eye blossom.
That's cool. Which again, is very cool Resin.
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I like the idea of resin. Even the resin block is pretty
cool. But the resin brick, that's an
ugly texture. Yeah, I don't know any other way
to say it's an ugly texture. I don't I don't like it.
And that's that's kind of a personal, it looks slimy.
Well, it is resin. Yeah, resin is slimy.
That when it's hardened into bricks.
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What did you say to me the otherday?
You said. What is their obsession with
orange lately? Yeah, like you look back, it's
orange and pink. Those two colors for some reason
seem to be in just about every update.
And I'm, I was trying to figure out why, but like, 'cause like
if you look at the, the new pale, pale oak, yeah, it's a
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nice white texture, but it's really pink.
It's got the slightest pink hue to it.
I'll take it. I know Carl take it.
I'm not a fan of it. I would rather use quartz
because it's got that slight blue hue to it or Gray hue and I
prefer that one. That's just me.
But yeah, I can't. I can't not see super light pink
when I look at. Kind of like how Carl can't see
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anything but purple when lookingat Blackstone.
Oh yeah, that thing is not blackguys.
Sorry. Called Deep State Blackstone and
Blackstone Deep Slate and we'd be fine, but don't call that
thing Blackstone when it's got purple in it.
Or die on this hill along with my concrete stairs and slabs.
See. Yeah.
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I would pay for concrete stairs and slabs.
There you go, Mojang. Come on.
We will pay for the next update.I will pay for it if it had
concrete stairs and slabs it andgun metal wood.
And vertical slabs. This is where I think create is
going to be bothersome because we're playing on just create and
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create Deco. Is that right Abney just those
two mods. And basically Deco is just a
supporting mod that adds a couple of prettier blocks to the
game. And it's amazing.
I'm like these, these are these are the things I want in vanilla
Minecraft. Why can't we have these in
vanilla Minecraft? And what we get is the resin
brick block, which really only goes with shroom lights.
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I said this to Abney last week although it for when he was on
and I said I don't think I can go back to vanilla now.
Well, like if they come out and they let us dye the resin blocks
because you can add color to resin, that would that would
help a lot. Hopefully they don't do like
with terracotta. When you color the terracotta,
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the colors are off because it's going under the premise you're
using the original terracotta color plus this new dye color.
And that's why the colors don't like black is really brown,
whites really pink. So I would like to be able to
dye those colors and have them actually need the colors I dye.
I know we get that with concrete, but if you're not
going to give us concrete stairsand slabs, this would be a good
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way to make up for that, if thatmakes sense.
But yeah, I don't like, I don't like the the slimy glistening
part of the texture on the bricks.
I I just don't like it. That's fun.
Yeah, I'm not too fussed with the with the new bricks and
walls and things, but I do like how you can put blobs of racing
on blocks. Yes, that.
That's cool. I am liking that.
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That's really nice. I wish they'd do that with more
things. Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
Like this, this snapshot, I actually like way more than the
Minecon live presentation. I mean, I feel they add way more
on this one than that, except for the textures.
I don't like that. And I don't like how bees get
poisoned with eye blossoms. I'm going to make a stand here
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if we couldn't have fireflies because frogs might eat them.
Yeah. And die then.
We can't have eye blossoms killing bees.
I mean, let's face it, that wasn't the reason.
I know, I just wish Mojang wouldjust say that wasn't the reason.
It kind of helps explain why there's no creatures there
though, because if even bees accidentally make their way and
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then they get poisoned, explainswhat?
There's no other animals there. That's true.
Well, I would like to see the bees act like Hoglunds with the
blue mushroom. Where they just avoid it.
So if they're flying along and they see an eye blossom, they
just immediately 180 and go the other direction.
Yeah, but then BAI pathfinding would have to be decent.
Hey, they've actually been working on the BAI.
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They have been, so there's that.I tell you we'll be happy
though, Jimbo. If those bees are getting
poisoned, he's going to be well.Happy he would just make a
forest of just straight wither roses and eye blossoms.
He so would as well. Is that it for the news?
Yeah. I mean, we can go into depth and
we probably will hear at the basically the end of the year,
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the start of the year on our next episode.
But we really want to talk aboutcreate.
So we're going to kind of just briefly do the news and we'll
come back to it at a later date.Let's move on to polls.
Last episode, we put up a poll up on YouTube and Spotify.
Obviously we were live from Create from Create.
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We were live from Cube com. So I basically asked, have you
guys heard of Cubed or visited it?
And as usual, our Spotify audience and our YouTube
audience are very different. Basically our YouTube audience
were basically split between heard of it, never gone, visited
once or twice, love it every year.
And our Spotify community was basically like, never heard of
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it till now and heard of it but never gone.
So you Spotify people get on Cube 2025.
It's going to be a great time. We'll be there again.
Duds is in charge of designing our booth for next year.
Yep. This is news to me.
I have created him a a plot in the plot for him to design it
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on. Oh boy.
So I want to see what he comes up with for a cube base.
So I'm giving you a lot of time.I got a full year.
Maybe 11 months until the next cube con to come up with an
idea. So yeah.
That's such such a great way to get dots to do it.
Just announce it while you whileyou're being recorded on the
podcast. Yeah, he didn't tell me this at
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all until right now. That's the best way to get him
to do anything is just put it onthe show.
Oh, that's great. Come on.
You've got a year. You act like I don't do nothing.
Do I not constantly offer? Hey, Carl, do you need help?
Carl, I can do this for you. Do you need help?
And you're like, no, no, I've got it.
I've got it, I've got it. But this thing you could do.
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We expect screenshots every podcast now, just to see how
it's going over the next year. That's not going to happen
because then I'm just going to place one block a day just to
mess with Carl. Why not?
It's a 15 by 15 by 11 square. We'll get there, don't you
worry. I've seen TikTok videos where
people are just doing one block a day builds.
We'll get there, we'll get there.
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You guys get on the cube com bandwagon because it's a really
good it's a really good event for charity as well.
Supports special effect and the tree planting thing that I can't
think of, but they they raise thousands of people who struggle
with gaming and the charity makes like special game
controllers for them for disabled people to help them
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play video games just like we do.
So it's a really good cause and a really good event as well.
So yeah, Cube con next year all.Right before I talk about some
experiences I've had with Createand we ask our guests, here's
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All right, Create. How do we want to start?
I want to ask flowers first. No.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Obney's got a load of experience
with Create. We've seen a bit of great Flaz.
What made you want to join a Create server?
I think is the first question I want to ask you.
Well, I've seen some of the bigger content creators out
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there messing around like some of the hermits were messing with
it. It seemed like a lot of fun and
Redstone is the logic that I really don't get How one block
Howard can move another block three blocks away.
It baffles me, but with the create being cogs levers, that's
kind of what I like with technology.
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I like that idea that you move alever and something happens,
cogs turning in the background. I think I think I remember also
seeing on one of Tango's where you can get light bulbs that
light up with words in or something like that.
That's brilliant. I love that and I think it melds
really well with vanilla becausea lot of mods, they seem
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overpowered or they make things super simple.
I've said it on my stream a few times that some of the mods that
I've seen, they'd literally walkup, right click villager, then
walk around with a villager in their pocket and then they can
just stick them in a bit of glass, throw a zombie in there
as well, and all of a sudden they got an iron farm in less
than two minutes. That's not a challenge, that's
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easy and overpowered, whereas Creature seems to be a nice
blend and goes really well with vanilla.
And then Albany asked me and he's like, well, he forward this
involved, then I've got a a. Good example of that is the this
XP spawner room I'm doing right now.
We can do a lot of stuff that I've been wanting to do in
vanilla, including picking up spawners.
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Matter of fact, one of the earlyseasons of comic craft before I
joined Ripple and Channel 64, wehad silk touch spawners so you
could pick them up and move them.
And you're right, it is incredibly easy in OP.
We can move them and create, butit's still a lot of work because
you have to create a minecart machine and physically push it.
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I can't I try. You can see in the episode, I
tried picking it up with the wrench and it says Mystical
Forest doesn't allow you to do this or something like that.
So I still have to build a waterelevator to get it up to where I
want to. It's it's going to take me a
couple hours just to move this thing 80 blocks.
Yeah, to me that sounds vanillary.
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It it really feels it. I mean, yes, you can't do that
in vanilla, but the fact that you've got to go through all
that to accomplish it, it's a lot better than just silk
touching it and walking away. Yeah, it's very much a great
reward for hard work because youfeel like the work does not
outweigh the reward and the reward does not outweigh the
work you have to put into it. It's and that's the way it's
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been with everything I've done and create.
It feels like it should be vanilla.
Yeah, definitely. That's the big thing.
Like it, it doesn't make things easier, it just makes allows for
more things like moving spawners.
But yeah, it's balanced. You got to work for it.
You got to do something. Going back to the bamboo farm,
I've made bamboo farms in vanilla and you know, couple
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Pistons, an observer collection system with a bit of water.
It's, it's done, it's easy. We've done it 1000 times, but
the thrill I caught from actually working out for me a
new way to harvest bamboo in such a radically different way,
yet vanilla feeling because I'm still using a minecart to do it
And and tracks it was amazing. I really liked that and it's
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something that I'm missing in Minecraft now because
everything's been done. You look for a way to do a farm
in vanilla and there'll be 7080 a hundred videos out there
that's showing you the exact same farm as everybody else as
if they've just invented it, whereas we've created.
I'm not looking at videos or anything like that, although
someone did post one in my Discord earlier.
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So working it out, it just brings a whole new feeling that
that original feeling that I hadwith of Minecraft in the early
days. Yeah, I've said to duds before
that like, I wish I could go back to a time where I didn't
understand Minecraft and start again.
Because those few times when I first got the game and like
started to learn everything was like the best.
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Like you learn something new about Redstone and you'd be
like, Oh my God, that's so cool.And that's exactly how I feel.
We've created like I've, I've done a few things.
I've made the lift, I've made the steak farm.
And then you learn about something new and you're like,
it can do that. It's crazy.
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That's what I was missing. Like I've I've said on this
podcast many times that the updates are not making me want
to play the game. They're not intriguing.
Yeah, where crate is Redstone links like before I made that
elevator, I didn't know what they were and I was like this
wireless Redstone. So, so you like Redstone links?
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That's what I'm getting from. That I love them.
He just keeps talking about them.
That's. The but that's the thing, the
the drill machine. I didn't know you could do that.
I was like my only plan for crate when duds mentioned about
the server was I want to make a lift.
I've seen people make lifts. It looks like a cool way to
enter a base. And then Omni made the drill and
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I was like, you can, you can make a drill and it'll like
drill the blocks for you. You'd have to use a pickaxe.
What is this witchcraft? I don't know, while I was doing
research for that spawner room Ifound there's a way you can give
a sword to a grabber and it willpunch the mobs for you and kill
them. I have not implemented that into
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our room, but you best bet I left room to implement it in
later. Yeah, you, you literally have a
player block. A block that's a player.
That's so cool. It's like how the steak farm
works where you have a a farmland that's producing wheat
and seeds. So the harvester goes round in a
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circle and harvests everything. And then the robotic arm comes
down, takes the wheat, puts it in the chest for the cows, and
then the deployer automatically feeds them.
So they're always breeding, you know, empty cramming and then
being cooked by a campfire in a fan and then into the chest
leather and steak for result to eat.
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And then the seeds are being picked up by that same
mechanical arm and being put in a composter to make it's a slow
supply of bone meal, but it's a supply of bone meal nonetheless.
And that's just so cool that youcan take that one farm, that
wheat farm and turn it into food, turn it into leather, turn
it into bone meal. And in such a way that this
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movement, you know, the the harvesters are spinning around,
the mechanical arm is moving. I love those.
They move all over the place. It's great.
And in that little area, it's probably like a maybe a 15 by 10
area produces all that stuff forus.
And in such an intuitive way, like Flowers was saying, create
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is so intuitive compared to normal Redstone.
Normal Redstone doesn't make anysense if you don't know what
everything does. But create does.
You know, you have a power supply, you have your cogs, you
have your moving mechanisms. It all makes sense.
And I think that's what's made me play.
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I haven't played Minecraft properly in probably about 18
months, two years. Yet the last couple of weeks
I've been on that Create server a lot as we can see by the
community area. I very rarely get on that server
and not see something new. I like in the create mod how if
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you don't know what something does, it's got that inbuilt
instructions videos. Yes.
They're they're really helping me so much.
Yeah. The ponder menu and they they
strongly suggest you use roughlyenough item or there there's
another one for forge, but yeah,that too to show you how to make
stuff. It makes things so so more so
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much more intuitive and easy to figure out how to make stuff.
But everything feels like you were saying before.
Everything feels vanilla. I don't feel like I'm playing
modern. And that was always my problem
with modern. It always felt modern, but
Create doesn't. It feels like an extension of
vanilla. It feels like vanilla plus Plus,
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yeah. Definitely.
Yeah, and the fact that vanilla Redstone interacts with the
create stuff as well, like just was saying earlier, he he has
this might have been off record,I don't know.
But he he's built something and him and Albany were arguing over
not arguing, friendly discussionover the best way to do it and
and does this ended up using vanilla Redstone to do
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something. And Albany was like, well, you
could do it using this and create and just like, yeah, but
it makes sense just to do this because it works.
And I think that's great that there's so many different ways
to get to the same result. Either if you use the creator or
you use your vanilla knowledge, it all works seamlessly
together. Yeah, and there's some some new
Redstone components as well. There's at least 4-5 new things,
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even more if you can't wireless Redstone.
But like you got stuff for like toggle able switches, kind of a
kind of a repeater variance kindof thing.
What? Oh yeah.
Oh yeah, I'm going to have to show you then.
It's great. So like the way I'm saying is I
view Redstone as electrical circuits because that's how I
was taught electrical circuits was Redstone.
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So I don't see a repeater as a repeater.
I see it as a capacitor. And I don't see a comparator as
I see it as a diode switch and stuff like that.
To see create where everything'smechanical.
It is gears, it is pulleys. And I was able to do some fun
mixing of the two components forthe XP room.
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And I was like, wow, OK, this honestly, this needs to be if
you're not playing modded, give create a chance because I know
we talked about earlier mods, they didn't interest me.
Mods again like flies. It felt like it was a way to
make things two OP and it was a collect them all type thing for
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me. You'd have these massive digital
storage systems just so you can collect everything in the game.
And it made no sense to me why you would want to do that.
But create, create feels like a,hey, this is how you can explore
the same territory in a new and interesting way.
And that's what I love about it.I don't feel a rush to collect
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all the, the create things. It's very much a, let's take
your way of thinking and rotate it 90° because now it's a gear.
It's, it's been a lot of fun. It's challenging because there's
some things you have to break your mindset from.
Like when it comes to Redstone, you do everything horizontally.
Even when you're going vertically, you have to have
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horizontal platforms to place the Redstone on.
So everything's like that. Well, in the XP thing, I
realized you can place the beltsat a 90° angle and they still
function the same. Using a gearbox, you can then
have your shafts turned vertically and process power
sideways and it's like, holy cow.
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That was like a huge poof momentfor me.
I was like, OK, we're just getting started.
Yeah, you got to think in 3D now.
Yeah. We are just getting started
though. Yeah, I mean, we really are.
We've built so many cool things on that server already and it's
just scratching the surface and that's what I love.
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My head has got round the createway now.
The the first night we were on the server I was sat there
thinking I am never going to understand how this works.
You remember how long we spent on that vanilla iron farm?
Just just to realize if we were to do the create one, it took
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Omni and I maybe 1/2 hour. Yeah.
And it's worked ever since, whereas the vanilla 1 broke
within 5 minutes. That was a disappointing
evening. Yep.
It was a great learning evening.Yeah, it was.
It was. Yeah, the three of us running
around like headless chickens trying to get zombies get into
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place, and I could just imagine Albany was just stood there.
Good. They will.
Learn. Yep, they will fail and they
will learn their lesson. Sound like a good teacher?
I kind of you know how when people are doing that menacing
thing, they like, stroke their beard?
I imagine Omni does it by like stroking his tusks.
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Precisely. That's the exact image you need
to have. Yeah, that's exactly what it is.
So when please do some fan art of that that that's going to
make my day. That would be great.
I want to see that a little animated GIF.
As you try getting tasks. Yeah.
Love it, love it. I want to ask Omni because
obviously you started way beforeany of us, what got you into
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create? The same thing as everyone has
said already. Never had any interest in, in
modded, but I, I would watch content creators playing it and
I thought it was super cool to see it, ZF in particular with
his own unique creativity. And then I got an opportunity
with some friends, Kelly and mini Wheats.
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They, they were, they had this their own server and they reset
it to click create on it. And I, I asked if I could join.
I'd known them for a little while.
So I, why not? Yeah, I I joined the server, had
a lot of fun, made some mini games, but eventually they got
to other projects and I kind of sort of ended up, you know,
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playing by myself. So that's when I eventually
started my single player world instead.
Was a bit easier to to manage toget back to the actual question.
What got me into create is, yeah, it's seeing the motions,
seeing everything moving becauseright in in vanilla Minecraft,
the only things that really moveare mobs like the villagers.
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And that's why I think people building big towns with
villagers, you know, free roaming the the entire place.
I think that's a quite a popularthing.
And but other than that there, there's nothing much, there's
nothing like that except like Pistons, but then again, like
it's very limited. And yes, seeing all, all that
motion and as you all said, likeit, it feels vanilla.
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And one thing that really convinced me to try it is that
as I said it, it doesn't feel modded.
And I think one of the, the, theimportant things, and that is
the way things look. And I'm, I'm not trying to like
attack any like modders, anyone that makes mods, but oftentimes
they, they look different from vanilla, like the textures, the
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way they're made. And sometimes it's just that,
like it's a programmer who makeswho who wanted to make a big
sword and they made what they could because they're not a pro
pixel art artist. Yeah, they're they're great at
programming, but they're not a texture artist.
Yeah, and, and sometimes it, it just feels a bit different.
But with Create, I feel like it really follows the, I think it's
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called the artistic direction of, of vanilla really feels like
the the person making these textures studied how things look
in regular vanilla Minecraft andmade it to have the same, same
aesthetic so that it blends in. Yeah.
So that it blends in well with vanilla.
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And that that's something that Ireally, really like about it.
Yeah. Like, honestly, at at some point
I had the the hypothesis that itwas actually a side project from
Mojang. There was there was a sub team
of Mojang who made that, who made that mud and published it.
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Under a different name, but it'sactually like made by the real
team. I, I, I have very high doubts
about the veracity of that that that idea, but still it feels
like that. Yeah, like honestly, if you were
to come out and tell me that theteam from Create said, you know
what? We're tired of waiting on
Hightail to do their own thing. We're going to do our own thing
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to go up against Minecraft. I would not be surprised.
Yeah, like the flawlessness in this mod.
Very rarely do we have any kind of glitching or breakage or
anything like that. It just works.
Well, there is, there is stuff, but yeah, it's it's still rare.
Yeah. I mean, saying that, say, you
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won't be surprised if it was a team from Mojang making it.
That's very high praise for the people who make Create,
definitely. Yeah.
Yeah. And I and I don't hide that the
idea it's, yeah, blends in so well.
Yeah, For me, what drew me to create was exactly what you were
talking about on me, though, it looked vanilla.
And the movement, the fact that you could turn your head
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anywhere and see something moving, because that's what's,
that's what's missing from Minecraft.
Minecraft feels very dead sometimes.
You have to very much structure your builds and even a standing
still build can made can be madeto look like it has movement,
but it's all just a perception of the eye.
Whereas in create you can actually have movement.
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You don't have to trick yourselfinto thinking there's movement.
I I absolutely love that and thefact that it, it takes what you
already know and turns it on itsside.
And then like you said, the textures look like they're made
from a texture artist at MO Yang.
Even Deco Deco is a completely separate mod we've just added on
to create to kind of get the full effect.
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And it's like, holy cow, why aren't these blocks already in
the game? I'm obsessed with the new light,
like the Andersite lamps and stuff.
Yes, you are. I'm obsessed.
They're. Pretty cool.
Hey you think about the movementI built a white weeks it took me
to build a windmill in my singleplay vanilla world and the thing
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that haunts me about it is that the windmill doesn't turn and I
am so tempted to recreate it in the create world just so I can
see it turning. Yeah.
One of the very first things you've built flies is a giant
clock with movable hands. It's like, holy cow, like I just
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walked out of my hole because itwas a hole at the time and I was
just like, what is that? Yeah, I saw the clockwork
bearing in the whatever the mod is where you can seal the
blocks. And I was like, is that what I
think it is? So then that that was my
project. Then I had to get to that point
so I could see if it was what I thought it was.
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And yeah, when it turned out it it worked like a clock.
It's that's it. Now I've got a bit of a clock.
I do admire your kind of like I'm not going to look at
tutorials. I'm not going to do what I do
and go on YouTube and go, how doI make a lift?
I, I, I respect so much that yousee something and create and go,
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right? How do I make that do what I
want it to do? And you work it out and you
spend your streams working it out.
I find that brilliant that you kind of have that mentality that
you that you want to work it outfor yourself rather than be told
how to do it. I think that's that's really
cool. That's a big thing that News
mentioned. Flaz does play offline a little
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bit, but for the most part he's doing everything on stream so
there is an audience watching him learn.
I'm laughing at him. Yes, stream brain is a thing.
That that's high stakes as someone who's done the streaming
thing and stuff like having someone look over your shoulder
as you doing it, as you're doingit.
I can't pretend. I can't pretend I'm an expert.
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If I went off and watched a tutorial and then try to
recreate that live, I'd mess that up.
And so there's me trying to pretend to be an expert and then
you see me mess it up. That would be worse for me.
Whereas I'm going in saying I don't know this game the the
server's called. Let's create together.
You're my chat. Let's create together.
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Let's let's work this all out together.
And that's exactly what the server was meant to do.
I love it. It's great that I do have some
people in the chat that do know what they're doing.
Occasionally Albany drops in andhe mentions a little thing like
I did in the last stream that I didn't even know existed.
That wanders off. Yeah, but that was fine because
he's like, use this, this is what it is.
I'm off to make a cup of tea andthen leaves me to work out how
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it works, which is great. It's perfect.
That is not what happened. I said use this.
You want me to come over and show you how it works and you
said no? But then I've got people in
there that think they know what they're talking about, and it
turns out that they don't. That's me but.
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It's, it's all part of it for mebecause I, I really used to like
getting my computer going arounda friend's house, connecting to
a LAN and working stuff out together.
We don't do that so much nowadays because we've got the
Internet. So that's what I want my streams
to be is us all working it out together and when it works I'm
happy. Chatsis static calls in
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disbelief. I mean, I can't lie, yes.
I do one thing and he goes. I can't believe that actually
worked. I was shocked.
Mate. Thanks.
I was like it works. What?
I was expecting this to be a disaster.
What's happening? Sorry to disappoint.
I I was very impressed that you managed to make a blaze farm
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without. I know this was on your other
streams, but like the fact that you managed to make a blaze farm
without dying. And then I go on to let's create
and I do it straight away. Several times to a drill.
Same. I don't think I've died as much
on a Minecraft server as I have on Let's create together.
Yeah, but I'll never is evil. It wasn't even the Nether.
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I died like a good six times before we even got to the
Nether. I remember trying to run from a
witch who like tossed the potionlike an A Major League Baseball
player and it remember to hit mein the back of the head and it
killed me. I was like what is going on
here? Maybe she's built a great
contraption to help her. Yeah, Catapult.
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Oh, can we build trebuchets? Is that a thing?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Because if you use plows, that's
what I'm using in my mini game with a plow, you can kick stuff,
but I don't think I can. I don't.
I think it can move blocks though.
I think it's just entities. That's that's what I'm thinking.
I remember looking at your mini game and I'm like, oh, I wasn't
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going to shoot blocks. I was going to shoot Carl.
Oh yeah, that that's going to work.
Absolutely, if Carl's to pull you.
If TNT's falling, isn't that an entity?
Yeah, probably. Oh yeah, it is.
So you could have the TNT fall, you could have it spin around,
hit it as it falls, and then from your base you can shoot to
the other bad guy across the lake.
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Hey. Bond villain.
I've just got my sheep in order.I know I went and I stole some
wool from you earlier. I've not got all the colours
yet. I kind of miscounted my sheep.
Oh, I I needed white wool because I either way I was just
going to turn it into string because I needed to make a bow
for a dispenser. Yeah, I have clipped them many
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times to go and make string fromthem.
I had two stacks earlier today. I stole some.
I I stole like one piece of wool.
The quick 5 minute sheet farm has got 14 white wool when I
went on the server last. Yeah, but it's more fun things
thing. I stole wool.
Ah, that's why I had 14 then. It's not stealing because it's a
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community farm. It's.
Fine, exactly. It's socialism.
I actually say that in this episode like, hey, this is, I'm
putting it here because this is the community session.
You don't have to go ask anyone to go use this.
If it's in this section, just gouse it.
I mean if it's in my base, go use.
That and I mentioned that I go, we all are pretty good, like go
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take what you want, but I didn'twant anyone to like run into
someone's base and steal or steal stuff that they were going
to have to use on a project theywere just getting ready to do.
Yeah. But yeah, we pretty much know
server etiquette. Yeah, we've been doing this long
enough. Yeah.
It's great, it's fun. What's the one project you're
looking forward to doing the most on?
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Let's create together. Not everyone talk at the same
time. Let's start with Flash.
Thanks, I I really want to decorate my clock so it looks
steampunky because that's something that I've always liked
the look of, but I can't seem tomanage it in vanilla.
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But we've got pipes, cogs, turnythings.
I've got lots of ideas of how I want that clock to turn out.
I didn't realize this, but it seems that I learn more to the
building side of Minecraft. I thought I was more just
rubbish everything, but coming onto the Create server, yes, the
mechanisms are fantastic and I love building the farms, but I
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want that clock to to be something that people look at
and go, wow, that's actually amazing.
I can't wait to see where that goes in future because I already
do that. I always I already walk out and
the first thing I do is go checkthe dime, continue on with my
day. Love it.
I just want to see the great ways of building farms.
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I think is the my kind of main thing I've done.
I've done my lift now I'm going to stop going on about it.
But seeing the the new ways of like me and you duds have done
so many like farms on stream andstuff like we've done a guardian
farm together and other things as well.
Blaze farm together on stream. And I want to see how the create
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way of making all these farms. Yeah, the more efficient way
because because normal Minecraft, most farms are not
the most efficient way of makingthem.
And I think crate has so many different kind of mechanisms and
pieces of equipment that you canuse to make a really efficient
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farm. And that's what I'm kind of
homing in on. Like I want to see how to make
all of these vanilla farms that we need.
We need these farms, but in the crate way.
Yeah. Old nature's coming up with new
ways to kill us all in entertainment value.
Precisely yeah, mini games. I've been doing mini games for a
while and it's fun to get new mechanics.
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I was kind of feeling a bit a bit uninspired for for vanilla
mini games lately and yeah, we get new mechanics.
I I've been playing in single player for a while now so I
can't really make any mini games.
So like exploring the those mechanics now to to kill you in
entertaining ways is going to begreat.
I I already got a few ideas for stuff that couldn't work in
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vanilla, but that will be yeah. Love it.
What about you duds? What?
What kind of projects are you looking forward to?
For me, it's one project, and itwas one project that led to me
starting this server and I wanted a monorail or a train or
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something. Yeah, to connect everyone's
base. I specifically looked for a seed
like it is now, so everyone would, you know, kind of be
forced to live near each other, but give each other enough space
when you're not on top of each other, and we could still fill
in missing areas. That's the one bad thing about
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playing on an S&P is a lot of times you'll build somewhere and
then you move on and you have some spaces that just don't get
touched. And with here, I think we're far
enough away to not really be on top of each other, but we're
close enough where we can touch all the spaces, put our
fingerprints on it and make everything seem whole.
And we're very much in the very scratched surface state.
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But you can already tell that this could be something very
special. And I'm excited to get to that
train stage because one of my plans is to have everyone design
their own car when I do the train.
I'm going to make the train stopso it stops with your car in
your station. Very cool, I've already extended
my lift you have to a strain train station platform.
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I'm ready. Yep, getting up to Carl's train
station platform is going to be a little hard.
There you go Flash. You can spend a stream building
your your cart for the train. Have you ever seen any more
streams? That sounds like 3 weeks worth
of streaming there. It'll be cool.
There's so many cool things for the trains as well.
There's so many like train specific blocks and they look so
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cool when they're all put together.
You can design like little seating areas like first class,
second class economy, like there's so many like different
tiers of of blocks for the trains.
It's super cool and I can't waitto to design A cart for that.
Yeah, I, I assume I'll have to do kind of a like a model like
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not a fully completed, just likea box that says, hey, I need you
to put this here and this here and this needs to line up in
this way. But other than that you can
change everything else. Even then, we could make any
sort of of of carriage and it would all be fine.
It would all line up, trust me. Don't even need to have clear
outlines. Teacher says it'll be fine.
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I mean don't don't make it like 100 block long carriage.
That won't work. That's that's what I was worried
about. I was like, well, if Carl makes
his carriage 10 and I make mine 25, then we have issues.
How can I make this not work? Challenge accepted.
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Oh no. Flazy's like.
How can I break this? How easy will it be to make it
not work? It's not a case of how can I do
it, it's like how often will I do it?
At the end of his stream is. Well, that's someone else's
problem now. Yeah, he just goes and puts it
back at Carl's base. I mean, he that's what he does.
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I'm in the stream and he's like,I'm just going to leave this
here. It's your problem what get
blamed for also. OK, any final thoughts on Create
before we wrap up the show? If you've ever thought about
getting into modded but you're abit worried about it because
you're not sure if you give create a go, it's really good.
Yes, agree. All right, I think that's going
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(56:03):
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and myself and the amazing guestwe have.
Thank you Omni, thank you Flasherty.
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Thank you so much for getting withered with us.
You should probably go drink your milk now.
Bye. See you guys.
(56:24):
Bye bye. Bye.
I'm thinking about getting a server I might click that.
(56:45):
But we don't get the information.
Well, I mean, Jimbo will tell you, but you have to listen
back. I'm listening.
You have to listen to the show in its entirety to help our
watch time. I'll just listen to a password.
He don't want to listen to himself.
Gosh, no, he's horrendous. While joke's on you, Carl is now
going to use you for the outro mess up.
(57:05):
Blooper. That's it.
Blooper is the word I was looking for.
Crap that that might be the new blooper.
Oh, any anything I say is a blooper.
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