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The following is a world famous Phil Hendry Show on
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coach Vernon Dozer, Do you need your Mama Show? Coach
Vernon Dozer, who spent generations holding young men into full
growed men, young men into football players, reminding young men
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of their duty to their communities, to their countries, and
to their gods, and now here he is the man
who asks, do you need your mama? Coach? Verlondozer. Thank
you very much, toy and hello everybody. Welcome to the
coach Vernondozer. Do you need your mama show? And I
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want to thank the Belmar Academy Marching slaughter House. That's
them right there, like and how they hit that note
fantastic just here, that is fantastic. Thanks so much. Kids,
they work their rare ends off. Let me tell you something.
I believe in our band programs at high school and
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I think these young people really work hard. The parents
do too. Sometimes the conductors, the teachers, they get in
the way. A lot of them got the big ego
and they think they're I don't know who they think
they're Leonard what's his name, Beinstein or something, Leonard Bernstein,
Leonard Bernstein. Well you're not. Okay, you're a teacher, you're
a good conductor, you're a good musicologist, whatever you want
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to call yourself. But these are the kids we're trying
to teach. These kids. We're trying to do something here.
We're trying to teach young people to rely on their
own wits, to rely on their own abilities, their intellect,
their curiosity, their courage, to rely on themselves and not
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their mama. Many of you are wondering, well, A's eve
some kind of a weirdo coach Doser, with the whole
way that he says mommy. No, I'm not. I am
to be honest with you, I am afflicted with an
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inability to say the word mamma like a normal human being.
I've had brain scans. Jesus, it's all right, coach. I've
had brain scans. I've had every kind of every kind
of X ray. I've gone in for psycho therapy, psychiatry,
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you name it. I claim it when it comes to
get in my mind where it ought to be. Now,
I do believe that I have clear thinking. I do.
I can assure you have nothing but healthy thoughts. And
I have a good, constructive, good constructive plans and feelings
and aspirations for myself, my family, and for my community.
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But for some reason, and I'm told it's a psychological
one more than anything else, it's difficult for me to
say the word mama like just a regular guy. You
know you heard you're listening to what I'm saying there.
I'm not saying that to be funny. I'm not doing
that to get somebody to pay attention to me. I
simply can't say the word mo me normally. Now many
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people say a lot of psycholog just have told me this.
The reason why I can't say that word normally is
because I grew up being molly coddled and being treated
like a little girl to be perfectly honest with you,
by my own mother, and she was very inappropriate with
me in other ways, And so it stuck with me
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as I grew older and I wanted to assert myself
as a man and no longer be this little freak
in pigtails. I mean, my mother used to tie my
hair back in pigtails. She put me in party she
put me in party dresses. I'm not kidding you. What
are you looking at? I had no idea. Yeah, well,
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and I swore a blood oath. I swore to any
god that would listen to me. This is back when
I was very I suppose you could say it was
a very racalcitrant young man. I was not a very
good student, and I certainly didn't want to know anything
about religion because of just what a nuthouse I was
living in. But I did at one time swear to
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any god that would I didn't know about god. I
didn't know if if there was one, if there was six.
I said, any one of you, gods, if there's six
of you, if there's just one of you, I swear
to you that when I get out of this house
and I'm out on my own, I'm never again going
to need my mama. And I also said that I'm
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going to go out and become a head football coach
because there's nothing more. I'd say, nothing more rooted in masculinity,
nothing more. Uh, I think nothing bespeaks manhood like the
game of football. Let me just say that. And I
told my very first team, for the first team I
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ever coached, was at New Deckie College. He was a
JC outside of o Order, Orleans. I'd finished my footballer
as a player, and I became a coach, a coach
of this junior college in New Orleans called New Deckie.
And I told those young men that day, I said,
if you follow what I tell you to do, you
follow along, you do this program the way I want
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you to do this program, and you don't have to
go running home. And I looked him in the eye
and I said, this is the most important thing. You
don't have to go running home to see your ma Ma.
If you can, if you can resist that temptation by God,
you'll be great football players and new Decky. That year
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we went eleven and one, eleven wins one law. They
hadn't had a season like that ever. Now, the school
was only three years old, okay, So I took over
in the third year. The two there were two previous coaches.
They didn't win a game. So when I came in
that I think the previous two seasons they were zero
to twenty four. When I came in, they went eleven one.
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Big deal, right, I mean you could say obviously the
two coaches, but they had never ever in the history
of that school, all three years of it, had ever
won eleven games. They never had a winning season. They
never only lost one game. There are a lot of
firsts that year. Why because I looked at each one
of those men in the eyes, and I say, men,
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they were kids, eighteen nineteen years old. But I looked
them in the eye and I said, anyone of you
need your my mama, No, okay, good, because just let
me know if you need me to go get a
bottle a diaper, you know. And they're all looking at
each other like what is going on with this guy?
So no, no, seriously, if you need me to go
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fetch a diaper and a bottle for you and then
go run and get your momy Ah. Guess what no
can do. Not gonna happen. Not gonna happen. So you
might as well have shag ass back to your sports
cars or whatever you guys have got, and go ahead
and head on home. I only want men on this team.
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I only want men in my football program who don't
need to go home to their mo me every lunchtime.
All right. Doctor Rolph Boxswayn is a Professor emeritis at
the University of Vienna's School of Psychiatry, and he's also
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the administrator at the University of Vienna Psychiatric Unit. And
we're very fortunate to have you on the program today,
doctor Boxswain. And why don't you if you could tell
people how you and I met. You were coaching for
the school up there in the valley Suckbar I think
it was the Suckberr. Yeah, okay, and I had been
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invited because I know I remember the faculty, professor Geisling,
and he had invited me and my son. So myself
was a big football fan and I was too, and
I said, well you were going to spend the weekend
up at Suckmar to take a look at the school
because Keith wanted to see the school. And that's when
we met you on the sideline there. It was your
son who was not interested in football. No, my son
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was not interested in foot He was for a period
of time. But you remember when he heard you say,
if you need your mama, don't don't even think about it.
Don't think about it. So he say, he heard you say,
I don't want anybody here who needs their mom. You
said it so bit scared him. It did, did it? Yeah,
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it's scared the way you said. I think you said
mom me. However, you well, that's the reason why I
have you on the program here. Well, I don't know
the root of it. It could be psychological, it could
be a brain cortex. We're more and more finding out
about the brain cortex injuries. And I don't know if
this has something to do with when you played football.
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Do you remember suffering any concussions. I don't believe I
had that problem. A concussion was not I had a
broken arm, two broken ribs, I lost a two A
lot of things I guess you might think are minor injuries.
I do not. I don't ever remember having a concussion,
But then again, how would Well, the concussion is you're
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dizzy and you're having a hard time focusing your eyes,
don't focus. It's not a difficult thing. You have to
sit sometimes, you're sick to your stomach. It's not a
difficult thing to recognize if you have it or not.
I don't think I did, Professor Boswayne. I think that
most of the problems that I had were relative to
as sort of the structural things. So in other words,
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you're breaking bones, yeah mostly, yeah, right, Well, so we
rule out brain damage per se, because you don't have
any history of that. However, we don't know for sure
what if it was brain damage, but well, it could
be an old brain. And when we see old brain,
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we mean the brain cortex, the oldest part of the brain,
and it could be of some injury to that because
we've I've seen some football players here in recent days
suffer a very severe concussion with injury to that part
of the body. But I don't know. You know, so,
what if it's not you talk about physical, is it's psychological.
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It could be psychological. But the fact that you're not
able to control. It gives it a turret's and I
think one of your programs you'd reference that. Well, I
don't know, but it does. It does have a turret's
feel to it. It says it's a dynamic there of
turrets that you say. So go ahead and for me, now,
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ask me if I need my mama? Okay, Professor Boswain,
do you need your moby? Okay? That's interesting. That was
not the high pitched mommy. Yeah, do you know when
you're doing it? I do know what I'm doing it,
and I don't. I can't control it. And it came
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to my attention that it was something I really couldn't control.
Role when I retired from coaching and I wanted to
come on to Phil Henry show here and do my
own show, and I decided I would call it do
you need your that That was an interesting one that
had sounded like you're drowning. I don't know, I can't.
Do you ever do do you duplicate these? I don't
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know by it? What do you mean by duplicate? Do
you ever talk say this the mommy the same way? Twice?
I don't know, To be honest with you, but what
do you know when you're doing it. I just know
that I need to say it. I need to I
know that when I say that word, I want some
bunk to listen to me. Yeah, I want them to
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recognize that I'm not fooling around and that they have
got to stand on their own two feet and not
run home and tug at the apron of their mom me.
You know, Yeah, that was a interesting one. Do you
know what you did there? No, it sounded like you
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were falling off a cliff you went, mom me, I'd say,
I don't. I don't know, and frankly I don't care.
Uh well, if you don't care, why are you bringing
me on? And because it apparently bothers other people, I
certainly don't want to bother people with it. And uh
it's one of the reasons why I quit coaching. Not
because I don't love the game of football. I do,
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but I'm not a big fan of coaching, and I
don't want to coach if I can't express myself the
way I want to express myself. Okay, how do you
wish you could say? Do you want your mommy? Well,
I don't know. I wish I could say just hey,
all you punks. If you want your mommy, then you
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can shag ass out of here and go back home.
But the mess try to do it the most masculine
way you can. If you punks, okay, can't do what
I want you to do, then why don't you just
go home to your mood me? You know? Yeah, that
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sounded like a siren. A siren. Let me ask you something. Yeah, No,
I swear you're not if you're yanking me. No, I
sweart to God, No I'm not. My special guest here
is Professor Rudolph Boxwayn from the University of Vienna Psychiatric
Unit in the School of Psychiatry, and we're talking to
him about the way I say the word and a parent.
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You know, it's just I can't say it in a
normal way. So I say to these guys, you know,
and this meant a lot to you when you first
were a coach, you wanted these guys to pay attention
and to be real manly. Yeah, I wanted them to
not so much be manly. I wanted them to just
toughen up, grit their teeth, get in there, no matter
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what the cost to win these football games. Yes, So
there's two to be motivated, Yes, to be motivated. And
somehow you think being with their mama would demotivate. Well,
you got to understand something. When I was with my mama.
Now we get to you and your mother. The relationship
you had with your mother was not that healthy. No,
it wasn't that healthy. I didn't like it. I didn't
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like the things that she did. Well, once you do,
kiss you and she used to kiss me on the mouth,
dressed me up a little skirt and little patent leather shoes,
Patent leather shoes. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yes, patent leather shiny
black pat leather shoes, and I go prancing down the lane.
Forget it. See Professor Boxwayne's laughing. Well, I'm sorry, you know,
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listen to this guy. I'm sorry, No, really, I am sorry, Ronond.
I don't mean to laugh, I really don't. But you
have a funny way of putting things. You were skipping
down the lane, huh looking if you're in a pair
of Patent leather shoes and a little pink skirt and
your hair's done in little curly cue. Shit. So how
let me ask you, if I could, how has this
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affected the parents the parents of what of the of
the of the football team. Well, I'm not coaching anymore, no,
I know that, But when you are coaching, I think
the parents didn't really care. As long as we were
winning football games. I would get out there and I'd say, now,
all you men, if you need to run home to
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your mo homies, then you go right now and do it,
because I don't want to hear from any of you
about how hot it is, how tough the practice is,
none of that. So they loved what you did. They
loved it. Yeah, they loved me running rough shot over
their kids. The harder, the sweatier, the hotter, the better
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the kids come home early. I remember one time we
knocked off early. It was a hot day. We knocked
out about one o'clock August afternoon, getting ready for the season.
I said, look at you guys, it's just let's quit
for I had some paperwork had to go to and
I let the kids go and they make their way
home by the bus. I think the bus was available there.
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Maybe one or two of them called up to parents,
but most of the parents and I find out these
kids had gotten off of football early. Man, they were
right up in my face. I mean, they were just
a half inch away from my nose. One of these fathers, Oh,
they're angry, yeah, he was. I said, what are you
trying to do? Letting these kids go early? He said,
I saw my son come to the door and ever
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still half the day left. What are you trying to do?
And I said, you know, Chris. Guy's name was Chris Hennicott,
and he had a great son, young man played linebacker
forth Chris. And I said, Chris, you know, you better
get your nose and the rest of your bad breath
face out of my face in about and I said
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five four I started to count it down. I didn't
say five seconds. I just began to count it down.
In about five four three two one. Did he move
his face? No, he did not, But the look on
his face was so stupid. He was trying to figure
out what I was. I said, get your face out
of my face in five four three two one, and
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he was. Now he looked confused, and I just I
just said, just just get out of here, just leave
me alone, okay. And that's when he tried to, you know,
provoke me. He said, hey, coach, why don't you go
and say hi to your mom? Me? And I said,
you know my bum mummy, that'd be your old lady.
Ooh yeah, I kind of get myself around of applause.
(18:33):
You know we're talking here. Wait a minute, I'm not
the host. I'm the host of the We're talking here
with Professor Ralph Boxwayne, and we're talking about what so
many people like to talk about, which is my your
sort of tourette's inability to say the word mama. Right,
I can't say the word mommy normal. I can't say
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it normally. And uh well, I think Coach. One of
the reasons for this, and I think it's probably pretty
obvious to a lot of people, is that you've used
this for many, many years to motivate your teams. If
you you know, you guys aren't good enough, if you
want to go home to your mama. It's basically to say,
if you go home to your mama, you're not good enough. Correct, Yes,
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I would say, that's it, okay. And so to emphasize
that the emotional import of that, you probably took to
using a mocking tone. And now I believe you find
yourself in kind of a tape loop that you can't
say that word in a normal way because the word
is so the word itself represents such weakness, and it
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represents such failure that you must mock the very word itself.
So I'm doing this consciously even though I can't. I
think you could keep from doing it if you concentrate it.
I think it's purely psychologu. I think it's a what
we call in psychiatry, the Abner reflects. It was named
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after a man named Bucky Abner. Do you know this name? No,
I don't. Who is it? Bucky Abner? Bucky Abner, I
don't know. Bucky Abner was a patient at of ours
at the Psychiatric Institute, and Bucky used to stand on
his three corner every day and tell people what time
it was. It's a good afternoon, it's five minutes after night.
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Nobody would ask him. He just said it voluntarily, just voluntarily.
How are you doing? It's five minutes after hy, it's
nine to fifteen. Hello, I'm Bucky Abner. It's ten o'clock.
You know, Yeah, what's so funny? I think it's very funny.
But that became something he could not keep himself from doing,
because the Abner effect is almost like, how do I say?
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It's like a wagon wheel rut. You know, when you're
driving wagons in the dirt or in even on hard clay.
If you'd have the wagon often enough, it makes these
tracks and the wagon just sits right into those tracks,
and sooner or later it becomes the road itself. This
is the Abner effect. When you're so used to repeating
a phrase or word in a manner that is unusual
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but very memorable, then the mind automatically settles into that rut. Yeah,
but I'm saying I'm saying differently every time, right, Well, yes,
you are, just like right then, But that is the
rut you're in. No way are you going to give
that word power, No where are you going to give
that word respect, No way are you going to give
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that word anything other than a mocking a tone to it.
And Bucky Abner was simply giving people the time. But
he was able to break himself of this. We worked
with him at the Psychiatric Institute. You're in Vienna, Austria.
How did Bucky Abner get all the way to Vienna? Well,
well he was from Austria, a guy named Bucky Abner.
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Huh yeah, what I just that doesn't sound like an
Austrian name, all right, I'm here with h Well, okay,
world traveler, I'm just saying to you, doctor Bucky Abner,
doesn't sound that sounds like a guy from Texas. Well,
guy was from Vienna. From Vienna, sure as shit. I
excuse my language. Yeah, I appreciate that. Uh, we're talking
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here with talking here with doctor Ralph Boswain from the
University of Vienna's School of Psychiatry as well as a
psychiatric unit there about how I can't say the word
by normally. I guess we'll take a break. I want
to thank you very much. Doctor. Is that what? So?
(22:43):
That's it? Yeah, that's it. I don't need anymore. Well
you don't. Don't get up yet, you gotta sit down. Okay,
we'll be right back with more here on the Vernon Doozer.
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do you you sound like a what's the guy on
the on the TV? He said, well, do you remember that? Yeah?
(24:08):
He he shot this guy and he says to the guy, uh,
And the guy says, did you fire all the boat
something like that? Yeah? And he says, uh, I know
what you're thinking, punk, did I fire six shots or
only five?
Speaker 3 (24:24):
Well?
Speaker 2 (24:24):
To tell you the truth and all this confusion, don
ring a bell, No, it doesn't. Uh, I forgot myself.
But the question you got to ask yourself. This is
in the movie The question you got to ask yourself
is do you feel lucky? Will do you punk? That's
that's what it reminded me of. There you don't know
who the actor was? No, I don't. I've never heard
(24:46):
never heard of that line or anything. Well, I can't
think of it now. But oh this line six, line
six is lighting up? You? Who we got on the phone? Hello?
Speaker 3 (24:57):
Oh with a no coach donell? Don't you know me?
Speaker 2 (25:01):
Did you ever be Karen? But no, I do? Are
you from the Bellmar Academy? No?
Speaker 3 (25:06):
No, no, no, no. I'm not a vacation right now
with my husband Larry, and we have my brother in
laws Larry and my husband is Cherry. I'm sorry, what
do you want, Terry? No, it's not just Stady's coach doser.
What's the Is there a prize?
Speaker 2 (25:21):
I'm sorry? Is there a prize for what if I
had the right?
Speaker 3 (25:25):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (25:26):
Why are you whispering? Oh?
Speaker 3 (25:27):
I'm sorry. I just like to show I love you.
I love Phil Henry.
Speaker 2 (25:31):
And what's the yas?
Speaker 3 (25:33):
I want to tell him that I would to tell
him that you hill billy with the Clint Eastwood.
Speaker 2 (25:39):
There you go, Clint Eastwood, that's the guy that's what
the actor who said, do you feel lucky? Will do
you punk?
Speaker 3 (25:44):
Yes? And you want to answer?
Speaker 2 (25:46):
All right? Well, so getting the answer right, we got
to give you a prize. I'll get What have you
got Phil Henry Show, Shot Class, Phil Henry Shows Shotglass? Oh?
I got?
Speaker 3 (25:54):
I got no. I just wanted to call up and
tell you that we really enjoyed the program. Right, Cherry
got talk? He got it already. You you billy come,
don't you understand?
Speaker 2 (26:08):
Thank you very very much for calling the coach vernondozer.
Do you need your Mommy show? All right? Well? Football
season is you know one of the things you will
not hear me talk about on a Coach Vernandozah show
is football. I despise the game of football, and there's
reasons for that. I gave my life to it and
(26:29):
it gave me nothing. Well, I'll tell you what football
gave me. Football gave me such a damaged brain. I
can't say the word mamma like a normal man. I
have to squeak it out. I gotta sound like I
got a Somebody took a I don't know a axe
handle and just caved my head in. I don't know
what it sounded like, but so football is a game
(26:49):
I don't like. But what we are going to do
here on a coach vernondozer, do you need your mama show,
is we're going to review the games. We're going to
give you the scores, okay, but we're also going to
do it while we hate the game. So let's get
over here now. So here, this course week five of
(27:12):
the eighteen weeks of the National Football League, and interestingly enough,
they play an eighteen week season in Canada. Now, I
think the NFL, and I haven't followed football in so
long ever since I quit my job. I don't know
how many games they play in the season, but I
think they play. They said they play seventeen games. Where's Elf, Elf?
(27:33):
Is that right? Yeah? Okay, Elf, Reardan's here. Elf. I
want to just introduce you because you're going to be
the regular announcer. Yeah, okay, because I know Coolio is
not He's not here right now, so no, I'll be
here next week. Okay, that's Coolio Wilson and Elf Johnson's here. Yeah, okay,
(27:55):
you don't have to keep talking because yeah, the uh
Kansas City Chiefs defeated the Los Angeles Raiders thirty to
twenty nine, and I couldn't care less. The Cowboys defeated
the Rams twenty two to ten. Who cares, you know what,
I don't even care. I could care less. NFL results
(28:16):
from the man who could care less, Coach Vernon Doser.
I gotta I don't give a shit. I'll see you
guys next time on. Do you need your Bobby Well
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The following is a world famous Phil Hendry Show on
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coach Vernon Dozer, Do you need your Mama Show? Coach
Vernon Dozer, who spent generations holding young men into full
growed men, young men into football players, reminding young men
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of their duty to their communities, to their countries, and
to their gods, and now here he is the man
who asks, do you need your mama? Coach? Verlondozer. Thank
you very much, toy and hello everybody. Welcome to the
coach Vernondozer. Do you need your mama show? And I
(01:17):
want to thank the Belmar Academy Marching slaughter House. That's
them right there, like and how they hit that note
fantastic just here, that is fantastic. Thanks so much. Kids,
they work their rare ends off. Let me tell you something.
I believe in our band programs at high school and
(01:38):
I think these young people really work hard. The parents
do too. Sometimes the conductors, the teachers, they get in
the way. A lot of them got the big ego
and they think they're I don't know who they think
they're Leonard what's his name, Beinstein or something, Leonard Bernstein,
Leonard Bernstein. Well you're not. Okay, you're a teacher, you're
a good conductor, you're a good musicologist, whatever you want
(01:58):
to call yourself. But these are the kids we're trying
to teach. These kids. We're trying to do something here.
We're trying to teach young people to rely on their
own wits, to rely on their own abilities, their intellect,
their curiosity, their courage, to rely on themselves and not
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their mama. Many of you are wondering, well, A's eve
some kind of a weirdo coach Doser, with the whole
way that he says mommy. No, I'm not. I am
to be honest with you, I am afflicted with an
(02:43):
inability to say the word mamma like a normal human being.
I've had brain scans. Jesus, it's all right, coach. I've
had brain scans. I've had every kind of every kind
of X ray. I've gone in for psycho therapy, psychiatry,
(03:05):
you name it. I claim it when it comes to
get in my mind where it ought to be. Now,
I do believe that I have clear thinking. I do.
I can assure you have nothing but healthy thoughts. And
I have a good, constructive, good constructive plans and feelings
and aspirations for myself, my family, and for my community.
(03:30):
But for some reason, and I'm told it's a psychological
one more than anything else, it's difficult for me to
say the word mama like just a regular guy. You
know you heard you're listening to what I'm saying there.
I'm not saying that to be funny. I'm not doing
that to get somebody to pay attention to me. I
simply can't say the word mo me normally. Now many
(03:58):
people say a lot of psycholog just have told me this.
The reason why I can't say that word normally is
because I grew up being molly coddled and being treated
like a little girl to be perfectly honest with you,
by my own mother, and she was very inappropriate with
me in other ways, And so it stuck with me
(04:22):
as I grew older and I wanted to assert myself
as a man and no longer be this little freak
in pigtails. I mean, my mother used to tie my
hair back in pigtails. She put me in party she
put me in party dresses. I'm not kidding you. What
are you looking at? I had no idea. Yeah, well,
(04:46):
and I swore a blood oath. I swore to any
god that would listen to me. This is back when
I was very I suppose you could say it was
a very racalcitrant young man. I was not a very
good student, and I certainly didn't want to know anything
about religion because of just what a nuthouse I was
living in. But I did at one time swear to
(05:09):
any god that would I didn't know about god. I
didn't know if if there was one, if there was six.
I said, any one of you, gods, if there's six
of you, if there's just one of you, I swear
to you that when I get out of this house
and I'm out on my own, I'm never again going
to need my mama. And I also said that I'm
(05:33):
going to go out and become a head football coach
because there's nothing more. I'd say, nothing more rooted in masculinity,
nothing more. Uh, I think nothing bespeaks manhood like the
game of football. Let me just say that. And I
told my very first team, for the first team I
(05:55):
ever coached, was at New Deckie College. He was a
JC outside of o Order, Orleans. I'd finished my footballer
as a player, and I became a coach, a coach
of this junior college in New Orleans called New Deckie.
And I told those young men that day, I said,
if you follow what I tell you to do, you
follow along, you do this program the way I want
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you to do this program, and you don't have to
go running home. And I looked him in the eye
and I said, this is the most important thing. You
don't have to go running home to see your ma Ma.
If you can, if you can resist that temptation by God,
you'll be great football players and new Decky. That year
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we went eleven and one, eleven wins one law. They
hadn't had a season like that ever. Now, the school
was only three years old, okay, So I took over
in the third year. The two there were two previous coaches.
They didn't win a game. So when I came in
that I think the previous two seasons they were zero
to twenty four. When I came in, they went eleven one.
(07:03):
Big deal, right, I mean you could say obviously the
two coaches, but they had never ever in the history
of that school, all three years of it, had ever
won eleven games. They never had a winning season. They
never only lost one game. There are a lot of
firsts that year. Why because I looked at each one
of those men in the eyes, and I say, men,
(07:25):
they were kids, eighteen nineteen years old. But I looked
them in the eye and I said, anyone of you
need your my mama, No, okay, good, because just let
me know if you need me to go get a
bottle a diaper, you know. And they're all looking at
each other like what is going on with this guy?
So no, no, seriously, if you need me to go
(07:45):
fetch a diaper and a bottle for you and then
go run and get your momy Ah. Guess what no
can do. Not gonna happen. Not gonna happen. So you
might as well have shag ass back to your sports
cars or whatever you guys have got, and go ahead
and head on home. I only want men on this team.
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I only want men in my football program who don't
need to go home to their mo me every lunchtime.
All right. Doctor Rolph Boxswayn is a Professor emeritis at
the University of Vienna's School of Psychiatry, and he's also
(08:26):
the administrator at the University of Vienna Psychiatric Unit. And
we're very fortunate to have you on the program today,
doctor Boxswain. And why don't you if you could tell
people how you and I met. You were coaching for
the school up there in the valley Suckbar I think
it was the Suckberr. Yeah, okay, and I had been
(08:47):
invited because I know I remember the faculty, professor Geisling,
and he had invited me and my son. So myself
was a big football fan and I was too, and
I said, well you were going to spend the weekend
up at Suckmar to take a look at the school
because Keith wanted to see the school. And that's when
we met you on the sideline there. It was your
son who was not interested in football. No, my son
(09:08):
was not interested in foot He was for a period
of time. But you remember when he heard you say,
if you need your mama, don't don't even think about it.
Don't think about it. So he say, he heard you say,
I don't want anybody here who needs their mom. You
said it so bit scared him. It did, did it? Yeah,
(09:29):
it's scared the way you said. I think you said
mom me. However, you well, that's the reason why I
have you on the program here. Well, I don't know
the root of it. It could be psychological, it could
be a brain cortex. We're more and more finding out
about the brain cortex injuries. And I don't know if
this has something to do with when you played football.
(09:49):
Do you remember suffering any concussions. I don't believe I
had that problem. A concussion was not I had a
broken arm, two broken ribs, I lost a two A
lot of things I guess you might think are minor injuries.
I do not. I don't ever remember having a concussion,
But then again, how would Well, the concussion is you're
(10:09):
dizzy and you're having a hard time focusing your eyes,
don't focus. It's not a difficult thing. You have to
sit sometimes, you're sick to your stomach. It's not a
difficult thing to recognize if you have it or not.
I don't think I did, Professor Boswayne. I think that
most of the problems that I had were relative to
as sort of the structural things. So in other words,
(10:31):
you're breaking bones, yeah mostly, yeah, right, Well, so we
rule out brain damage per se, because you don't have
any history of that. However, we don't know for sure
what if it was brain damage, but well, it could
be an old brain. And when we see old brain,
(10:52):
we mean the brain cortex, the oldest part of the brain,
and it could be of some injury to that because
we've I've seen some football players here in recent days
suffer a very severe concussion with injury to that part
of the body. But I don't know. You know, so,
what if it's not you talk about physical, is it's psychological.
(11:14):
It could be psychological. But the fact that you're not
able to control. It gives it a turret's and I
think one of your programs you'd reference that. Well, I
don't know, but it does. It does have a turret's
feel to it. It says it's a dynamic there of
turrets that you say. So go ahead and for me, now,
(11:37):
ask me if I need my mama? Okay, Professor Boswain,
do you need your moby? Okay? That's interesting. That was
not the high pitched mommy. Yeah, do you know when
you're doing it? I do know what I'm doing it,
and I don't. I can't control it. And it came
(11:57):
to my attention that it was something I really couldn't control.
Role when I retired from coaching and I wanted to
come on to Phil Henry show here and do my
own show, and I decided I would call it do
you need your that That was an interesting one that
had sounded like you're drowning. I don't know, I can't.
Do you ever do do you duplicate these? I don't
(12:19):
know by it? What do you mean by duplicate? Do
you ever talk say this the mommy the same way? Twice?
I don't know, To be honest with you, but what
do you know when you're doing it. I just know
that I need to say it. I need to I
know that when I say that word, I want some
bunk to listen to me. Yeah, I want them to
(12:42):
recognize that I'm not fooling around and that they have
got to stand on their own two feet and not
run home and tug at the apron of their mom me.
You know, Yeah, that was a interesting one. Do you
know what you did there? No, it sounded like you
(13:03):
were falling off a cliff you went, mom me, I'd say,
I don't. I don't know, and frankly I don't care.
Uh well, if you don't care, why are you bringing
me on? And because it apparently bothers other people, I
certainly don't want to bother people with it. And uh
it's one of the reasons why I quit coaching. Not
because I don't love the game of football. I do,
(13:25):
but I'm not a big fan of coaching, and I
don't want to coach if I can't express myself the
way I want to express myself. Okay, how do you
wish you could say? Do you want your mommy? Well,
I don't know. I wish I could say just hey,
all you punks. If you want your mommy, then you
(13:45):
can shag ass out of here and go back home.
But the mess try to do it the most masculine
way you can. If you punks, okay, can't do what
I want you to do, then why don't you just
go home to your mood me? You know? Yeah, that
(14:11):
sounded like a siren. A siren. Let me ask you something. Yeah, No,
I swear you're not if you're yanking me. No, I
sweart to God, No I'm not. My special guest here
is Professor Rudolph Boxwayn from the University of Vienna Psychiatric
Unit in the School of Psychiatry, and we're talking to
him about the way I say the word and a parent.
(14:34):
You know, it's just I can't say it in a
normal way. So I say to these guys, you know,
and this meant a lot to you when you first
were a coach, you wanted these guys to pay attention
and to be real manly. Yeah, I wanted them to
not so much be manly. I wanted them to just
toughen up, grit their teeth, get in there, no matter
(14:55):
what the cost to win these football games. Yes, So
there's two to be motivated, Yes, to be motivated. And
somehow you think being with their mama would demotivate. Well,
you got to understand something. When I was with my mama.
Now we get to you and your mother. The relationship
you had with your mother was not that healthy. No,
it wasn't that healthy. I didn't like it. I didn't
(15:17):
like the things that she did. Well, once you do,
kiss you and she used to kiss me on the mouth,
dressed me up a little skirt and little patent leather shoes,
Patent leather shoes. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yes, patent leather shiny
black pat leather shoes, and I go prancing down the lane.
Forget it. See Professor Boxwayne's laughing. Well, I'm sorry, you know,
(15:41):
listen to this guy. I'm sorry, No, really, I am sorry, Ronond.
I don't mean to laugh, I really don't. But you
have a funny way of putting things. You were skipping
down the lane, huh looking if you're in a pair
of Patent leather shoes and a little pink skirt and
your hair's done in little curly cue. Shit. So how
let me ask you, if I could, how has this
(16:04):
affected the parents the parents of what of the of
the of the football team. Well, I'm not coaching anymore, no,
I know that, But when you are coaching, I think
the parents didn't really care. As long as we were
winning football games. I would get out there and I'd say, now,
all you men, if you need to run home to
(16:25):
your mo homies, then you go right now and do it,
because I don't want to hear from any of you
about how hot it is, how tough the practice is,
none of that. So they loved what you did. They
loved it. Yeah, they loved me running rough shot over
their kids. The harder, the sweatier, the hotter, the better
(16:48):
the kids come home early. I remember one time we
knocked off early. It was a hot day. We knocked
out about one o'clock August afternoon, getting ready for the season.
I said, look at you guys, it's just let's quit
for I had some paperwork had to go to and
I let the kids go and they make their way
home by the bus. I think the bus was available there.
(17:08):
Maybe one or two of them called up to parents,
but most of the parents and I find out these
kids had gotten off of football early. Man, they were
right up in my face. I mean, they were just
a half inch away from my nose. One of these fathers, Oh,
they're angry, yeah, he was. I said, what are you
trying to do? Letting these kids go early? He said,
I saw my son come to the door and ever
(17:29):
still half the day left. What are you trying to do?
And I said, you know, Chris. Guy's name was Chris Hennicott,
and he had a great son, young man played linebacker
forth Chris. And I said, Chris, you know, you better
get your nose and the rest of your bad breath
face out of my face in about and I said
(17:49):
five four I started to count it down. I didn't
say five seconds. I just began to count it down.
In about five four three two one. Did he move
his face? No, he did not, But the look on
his face was so stupid. He was trying to figure
out what I was. I said, get your face out
of my face in five four three two one, and
(18:10):
he was. Now he looked confused, and I just I
just said, just just get out of here, just leave
me alone, okay. And that's when he tried to, you know,
provoke me. He said, hey, coach, why don't you go
and say hi to your mom? Me? And I said,
you know my bum mummy, that'd be your old lady.
Ooh yeah, I kind of get myself around of applause.
(18:33):
You know we're talking here. Wait a minute, I'm not
the host. I'm the host of the We're talking here
with Professor Ralph Boxwayne, and we're talking about what so
many people like to talk about, which is my your
sort of tourette's inability to say the word mama. Right,
I can't say the word mommy normal. I can't say
(18:55):
it normally. And uh well, I think Coach. One of
the reasons for this, and I think it's probably pretty
obvious to a lot of people, is that you've used
this for many, many years to motivate your teams. If
you you know, you guys aren't good enough, if you
want to go home to your mama. It's basically to say,
if you go home to your mama, you're not good enough. Correct, Yes,
(19:18):
I would say, that's it, okay. And so to emphasize
that the emotional import of that, you probably took to
using a mocking tone. And now I believe you find
yourself in kind of a tape loop that you can't
say that word in a normal way because the word
is so the word itself represents such weakness, and it
(19:42):
represents such failure that you must mock the very word itself.
So I'm doing this consciously even though I can't. I
think you could keep from doing it if you concentrate it.
I think it's purely psychologu. I think it's a what
we call in psychiatry, the Abner reflects. It was named
(20:06):
after a man named Bucky Abner. Do you know this name? No,
I don't. Who is it? Bucky Abner? Bucky Abner, I
don't know. Bucky Abner was a patient at of ours
at the Psychiatric Institute, and Bucky used to stand on
his three corner every day and tell people what time
it was. It's a good afternoon, it's five minutes after night.
(20:28):
Nobody would ask him. He just said it voluntarily, just voluntarily.
How are you doing? It's five minutes after hy, it's
nine to fifteen. Hello, I'm Bucky Abner. It's ten o'clock.
You know, Yeah, what's so funny? I think it's very funny.
But that became something he could not keep himself from doing,
because the Abner effect is almost like, how do I say?
(20:53):
It's like a wagon wheel rut. You know, when you're
driving wagons in the dirt or in even on hard clay.
If you'd have the wagon often enough, it makes these
tracks and the wagon just sits right into those tracks,
and sooner or later it becomes the road itself. This
is the Abner effect. When you're so used to repeating
a phrase or word in a manner that is unusual
(21:17):
but very memorable, then the mind automatically settles into that rut. Yeah,
but I'm saying I'm saying differently every time, right, Well, yes,
you are, just like right then, But that is the
rut you're in. No way are you going to give
that word power, No where are you going to give
that word respect, No way are you going to give
(21:39):
that word anything other than a mocking a tone to it.
And Bucky Abner was simply giving people the time. But
he was able to break himself of this. We worked
with him at the Psychiatric Institute. You're in Vienna, Austria.
How did Bucky Abner get all the way to Vienna? Well,
well he was from Austria, a guy named Bucky Abner.
(22:01):
Huh yeah, what I just that doesn't sound like an
Austrian name, all right, I'm here with h Well, okay,
world traveler, I'm just saying to you, doctor Bucky Abner,
doesn't sound that sounds like a guy from Texas. Well,
guy was from Vienna. From Vienna, sure as shit. I
excuse my language. Yeah, I appreciate that. Uh, we're talking
(22:22):
here with talking here with doctor Ralph Boswain from the
University of Vienna's School of Psychiatry as well as a
psychiatric unit there about how I can't say the word
by normally. I guess we'll take a break. I want
to thank you very much. Doctor. Is that what? So?
(22:43):
That's it? Yeah, that's it. I don't need anymore. Well
you don't. Don't get up yet, you gotta sit down. Okay,
we'll be right back with more here on the Vernon Doozer.
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(23:03):
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(23:24):
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you won't need your mama. And now back to the
coach Verlan Doozer show. Do you need your mama? How
do you you sound like a what's the guy on
the on the TV? He said, well, do you remember that? Yeah?
(24:08):
He he shot this guy and he says to the guy, uh,
And the guy says, did you fire all the boat
something like that? Yeah? And he says, uh, I know
what you're thinking, punk, did I fire six shots or
only five?
Speaker 3 (24:24):
Well?
Speaker 2 (24:24):
To tell you the truth and all this confusion, don
ring a bell, No, it doesn't. Uh, I forgot myself.
But the question you got to ask yourself. This is
in the movie The question you got to ask yourself
is do you feel lucky? Will do you punk? That's
that's what it reminded me of. There you don't know
who the actor was? No, I don't. I've never heard
(24:46):
never heard of that line or anything. Well, I can't
think of it now. But oh this line six, line
six is lighting up? You? Who we got on the phone? Hello?
Speaker 3 (24:57):
Oh with a no coach donell? Don't you know me?
Speaker 2 (25:01):
Did you ever be Karen? But no, I do? Are
you from the Bellmar Academy? No?
Speaker 3 (25:06):
No, no, no, no. I'm not a vacation right now
with my husband Larry, and we have my brother in
laws Larry and my husband is Cherry. I'm sorry, what
do you want, Terry? No, it's not just Stady's coach doser.
What's the Is there a prize?
Speaker 2 (25:21):
I'm sorry? Is there a prize for what if I
had the right?
Speaker 3 (25:25):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (25:26):
Why are you whispering? Oh?
Speaker 3 (25:27):
I'm sorry. I just like to show I love you.
I love Phil Henry.
Speaker 2 (25:31):
And what's the yas?
Speaker 3 (25:33):
I want to tell him that I would to tell
him that you hill billy with the Clint Eastwood.
Speaker 2 (25:39):
There you go, Clint Eastwood, that's the guy that's what
the actor who said, do you feel lucky? Will do
you punk?
Speaker 3 (25:44):
Yes? And you want to answer?
Speaker 2 (25:46):
All right? Well, so getting the answer right, we got
to give you a prize. I'll get What have you
got Phil Henry Show, Shot Class, Phil Henry Shows Shotglass? Oh?
I got?
Speaker 3 (25:54):
I got no. I just wanted to call up and
tell you that we really enjoyed the program. Right, Cherry
got talk? He got it already. You you billy come,
don't you understand?
Speaker 2 (26:08):
Thank you very very much for calling the coach vernondozer.
Do you need your Mommy show? All right? Well? Football
season is you know one of the things you will
not hear me talk about on a Coach Vernandozah show
is football. I despise the game of football, and there's
reasons for that. I gave my life to it and
(26:29):
it gave me nothing. Well, I'll tell you what football
gave me. Football gave me such a damaged brain. I
can't say the word mamma like a normal man. I
have to squeak it out. I gotta sound like I
got a Somebody took a I don't know a axe
handle and just caved my head in. I don't know
what it sounded like, but so football is a game
(26:49):
I don't like. But what we are going to do
here on a coach vernondozer, do you need your mama show,
is we're going to review the games. We're going to
give you the scores, okay, but we're also going to
do it while we hate the game. So let's get
over here now. So here, this course week five of
(27:12):
the eighteen weeks of the National Football League, and interestingly enough,
they play an eighteen week season in Canada. Now, I
think the NFL, and I haven't followed football in so
long ever since I quit my job. I don't know
how many games they play in the season, but I
think they play. They said they play seventeen games. Where's Elf, Elf?
(27:33):
Is that right? Yeah? Okay, Elf, Reardan's here. Elf. I
want to just introduce you because you're going to be
the regular announcer. Yeah, okay, because I know Coolio is
not He's not here right now, so no, I'll be
here next week. Okay, that's Coolio Wilson and Elf Johnson's here. Yeah, okay,
(27:55):
you don't have to keep talking because yeah, the uh
Kansas City Chiefs defeated the Los Angeles Raiders thirty to
twenty nine, and I couldn't care less. The Cowboys defeated
the Rams twenty two to ten. Who cares, you know what,
I don't even care. I could care less. NFL results
(28:16):
from the man who could care less, Coach Vernon Doser.
I gotta I don't give a shit. I'll see you
guys next time on. Do you need your Bobby Well
Coach Vernon Doser? Do you Need your Mama? Show? Brought
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