S11:E4 The Political War Beneath the Surface

What’s really driving America’s political chaos, and what does it mean for the church?

In this episode, Dave Fitch and Mike Moore dig beneath partisan headlines to uncover the deeper philosophical divide shaping our cultural and theological conflicts. Fitch traces the roots of our polarization to two competing political visions: liberal democracy (centered on individual freedom) and national conservatism (centered on shared cultural values).

From there, they explore how both sides fall short and why neither has room for the church. The conversation turns toward what it means for Christians to embody a third way: a politic of the kingdom rooted in community, discipleship, and the lordship of Christ.

🎙️ In This Episode:

• The deep ideological divide behind America’s political wars
• Liberal democracy vs. national conservatism—what each gets right (and wrong)
• How both sides sideline the church
• Why coercion and individualism can never produce kingdom life
• What pastors can do to lead faithfully in a polarized world

📌 Highlights:

• [00:05:00] The individual vs. the collective—two visions of society
• [00:10:00] Why Christian nationalism fails in a multicultural world
• [00:15:00] Hauerwas, Rawls, and the politics of virtue
• [00:21:00] The church as an alternative politic
• [00:24:00] “Start with five people”: how pastors can build kingdom communities amid chaos

Both liberal democracy and national conservatism promise freedom, but only the church can form people to live free in Christ.

When Christians embody the politics of Jesus together, they become the living alternative our polarized world desperately needs.