Make Time for Fitness with Kate Cherichello | Ep 334 - This Organized Life: Decluttering Tips for Moms, Entrepreneurs and Professional Organizers

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Welcome to This Organized Life. Ifyou're a mom, wife, or coffee
lovers seeking advice on how to reduceclutter and reclaim time, look no further
than your host, Laurie Palau,Founder Simply Be Organized, an author of
hot Mess, a practical guide togetting organized. For a lot of people,
clutter is their dirty little secret,but it doesn't have to be.
Each week, we will share practicaltips, chat with experts, and provide

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strategies on how to keep you organized. I hope that by sharing our stories
you feel a little less alone andmore empowered to tackle the areas that are
holding you back. So let's getstarted. Hi everybody, and welcome to
today's episode of This Organized Life podcast. I'm your host, Laurie Palau,

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and I am really excited for today'sepisode because not only were we talk about
a fun topic. It's fun forme. It's all that wellness and fitness.
But I love our guest. Iactually have the opportunity we met because
I have the opportunity be on hershshow. Her name is Kate Cherchello and
she hosts a podcast called Be theGood, which I highly recommend everybody go

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and subscribe to. Only is sheadorable, But it's all about finding good
in the world. Hello, don'twe all need those reminders? We absolutely
do. And she talks to tonsof people, from business owners to she
the performers, so she has allthese like Broadway actors that she talks to,

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producers and just like everyday folks also, and it's such an uplifting show
and just hearing other people's perspectives,it's a great show. But while we
were talking on her show, shementioned, as in addition to hosting the
podcast and being a Broadway actress,that she is also a certified fitness instructor.

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And we were talking offline about theparallels between exercise and organizing, and
I said, okay, we needto table this conversation and have it on
this organized life. And so todayis the day, people, you are
in for a treat. So withoutfurther ado, let me welcome my friend
Kate to the show. Welcome Kate. Oh my gosh, Laurie, thank
you, thank you for that incredibleintroduct should I so appreciate it. No,

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I, it's all true. Andobviously you always ask our guests,
people just like behind the Curtain,to send their bio and any information and
Kate has so many incredible accolades likeunder her belt, and I didn't want
to sit here and read her resume. But I'm hoping that you can just
in your own word, like fillin the blanks our listeners, let them

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know a little bit about you,like personally, professionally and all the things.
Sure, thanks, and I'll keepit on the shorter side. You
can always ask additional questions if needed. But I'm originally from New Jersey.
We discovered not far from where Laurieis actually, and I've been in Manhattan
for a dozen years now, andhistorically I've been in the musical theater side

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of performing and then along the wayI found be on camera side as well.
In that world, I discovered Ireally love posting. I love being
myself on camera. I love justinterviewing people and talking with people, hearing
the stories. And that is thevery overly succinct way of saying that led
me to be the good with Katethe Weekly Show, I now have where
I get to do just that,interview people about the good they're doing in

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the world, like Marie. Andalong the way in the performing world,
I found a love of the fitnessworld as well. And they really do
go hand in hand from that aspectof being an instructor being a trainer,
You're on all the time. That'sso many professions right. Lawyers are on
all the time, doctors are onall the time, and everybody interacts with
others in different ways. And havingthat performing foundation really helped me as then

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a fitness instructor. I love motivatingpeople. I love that upbeat vibe.
It was a way for me toget paid to work out, which worked
out real well and totally seem agreat like addition to the performing life you're
in New York City. I havebeen grateful enough to teach master classes all
over the country and now with theworld of virtual fitness, I've taught for

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Japan and Korea and Hawaii and allthese crazy places that I never would have
been able to tell you that wasa part of my future years back,
but I've been so grateful for it, and all of it continues today right
now. I have virtual training thatI do. I do health coaching virtually.
I have in person classes here inManhattan and an online on demand platform

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where people can take barn plodies,new classes coming every week. There are
free group coaching calls each month,and again, it all just works really
well with still being a performer hereas well. I love so much of
what you're saying, because, firstof all, like I love the entrepreneurial
side of this, right, anytimeyou can monetize I teost people all the

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time. You can monetize something thatyou enjoy and that you're good at,
go for it. I'm all aboutit. Because if you can bring value
to somebody something that you comes naturallyto you or that you are skilled in,
have at it. To me,that's like the American dream. So
be able to do that and incorporatethat with all of the other things that
you have going on. So likefrom entrepreneur to entrepreneur, like kudos,

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I love that. And again Ijust I love how you were able to
say, like all of these thingsjust organically fit together. I'm a performer.
I need to stay in shape andI need to be on the top
of my game, and so Ican do that. And as a performer,
I'm used to being in front ofpeople and presenting, and so I'm
able to take those talents and translatethem in helping people in the fitness world.

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So I just love all about it, and then of course the podcasting
side of things were like you getto be yourself and talk to cool people,
and I think it's I think it'sgreat. But what we were talking
well And also, did I sidebartell you that when I lived in New
York that my first job when Imoved to the city was working at a

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gym because I couldn't aford a gymmembership. I don't know if I told
you that, Yeah, because whenyou were left, You're like, I
got paid to do it. Iwas dirt poor when I moved. I
was twenty two years old, movedto New York and had no money,
Like joining a gym membership in NewYork, forget about it. And I
was like, I'm going to geta job here, Like I'm going to
get a job and so I canhave a free membership. And that's exactly

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what I did and perfect. Yeah, and that's where I went up meeting
my husband. So I look atthat. It's funny a sidebar to the
sidebar, I had every intention ofmeeting my husband. While it's teaching these
corporate classes for years, like Iteach at Barclays, Goldman Sacks, Morgan
Stanley, like all these big investmentfirms like, oh, we are set.

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This is going to work out soperfectly. It's going to be like
a Hallmark movie. This handsome man'sgoing to walk into my class, and
there were a lot of handsome menof my classes. Funny enough, I
met my husband online years later.The ironic thing is, turns out,
at one point we both worked inthe same building, just in different companies
within that giant building. So it'slike we could have crossed paths that we
didn't. So isn't the world justfunny? That is a Hallmark movie.

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You think about that, It's likeyou have these two parallel people that are
in the separate elevator backs. Right, Okay, So now that we got
that out of the way, wehad spoken off life. I really was
hoping you can dive in. Ithink when you people think about the sy
it elicits this emotional response of people. You either love it, it's your

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sanctuary, it's like my mental escapeor whatever, or you have that cringe
worthy of I don't want to workout. I feel like there's two extremes
that people say I don't really get, like an indifference, and then the
only other third thing is that OhI like it. I wish I could
work out, but I don't havethe time. So I want you to

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just maybe unpack that a little bitand just wayh in on your experience and
your thoughts around those. It's agreat way to stand to unpack it because
it really is. It's that.It's that's psychology of it. I mean,
it all goes down to that.And fitness doesn't have to be this
oh my gosh, my life isdevoted to being at the gym every day,
or I don't do anything because anyof those all or nothing mentalities,

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I mean, be it fitness oranything in the world. We see study
after study, example after example.It doesn't work, right, those extremes
don't work. But finding that wayto incorporate those healthy lifestyle choices into our
day to day is so possible,it's so plausible. But we are constantly
bombarded with the noise, right,like we're constant every other ad. If

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it's not for someonehealthy food, it'sfor the diet that's going to race the
unhealthy food, right and or forthe next next gym piece of equipment that's
going to revolutionize the world. Andit's just so much simpler than that,
and all those tools can come inreally handy for different people. But that's
a thing. We're all different too, and what works for one person might

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not work for another person, andso all or nothing approaches don't work.
The extreme approach its don't work.It's really finding out with trial and error.
Unfortunately, is that what works foryou and it doesn't have to be
that. Oh my gosh, hoursand hours of my day. My brain
is just overcome with how many stepsam I getting it? And this and
that and the other thing. Andsome people love counting calories and feeling like

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that's their little way of knowing whatthey ate. Some people love saying checking
a box one hour of move thana day, I did it, I
got it done. And again,it just keeps going back to what works
for you. But the simpler thebetter. My God. To my fitness
accounts, you'll see, like myfavorite hashtag over and over again is every
bit count every bit council. Andit's so true. I use the example

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a lot of parking far away attarget if you live in the suburbs and
getting that extra walk. It's like, these are the simple things that once
we turn our minds to just thatawareness of how can I make just my
day as it is healthier. There'sso much that can be done. If
I'm going out to eat friede versusgrilled, grilled is going to be a

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healthier choice. And will it ruinyour whole atmosphere of where you're eating out
if you don't get the fried thingbut you've got it grilled. Just all
of those I could go on allday with examples, But it's all these
little steps and it doesn't have tobe my whole life feels like it's getting
turned around today. If I wantto do anything now, can it be

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sure? If that's what you wantto do, you want to get a
whole life change, and you wantto sit down with someone to talk about
that. Absolutely, But it's whenwe start to feel just hold by that
overwhelm of it seems like there's somuch out there, and there's so many
people telling me different things, andthere's constantly somebody saying this diet and that
diet. It really just comes downto keep it simple, finding those small

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ways that I can make tweaks inmy day to day, whether it's getting
a little extra walking, maybe it'stweaking a couple of the food choices that
are in my routines. Again,I'll stop there and let you ask,
but because I could go on,but it can be simple. It's great.
And if anybody is again watching onYouTube, I always take notes as
people are talking. So if Ilook down, it's like I'm just jotting

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things down that I think are thingsat points I want to come back to.
And I agree so much with whatyou're saying, and I'm thinking of
my own life. Right so,I'm in a completely different season. I
am going through menopause. I'm inmy early fifties. I wayne boardal than
I ever have before, and alot of it is hormonal and all that

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stuff. And so I know thatthere's listeners out there that are that can
relate. But I also have alot of people who can. But in
whatever season of life you're in.So right now, my social media feed
is filled and flooded with all ofthese weight loss plans for mena puzzle belly
and losing weight and hormone supplements andall of these things, like all of

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these different things, and you caneasily get like bombarded of like decision fatigue
and overload of we all want todo what's gonna work for us, right.
We don't want to waste our time, we don't want to waste our
money. But there's so many thingsout there that we if something's a pain
point for us, like I like, this is a pain point for me.
Doesn't cripple my life, but it'ssomething that I want to try to

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solve. And sometimes you don't knowwhere to turn. And I feel like
in the fitness world, you seeso many things you should have your high
intensity of people that say you shouldrun into people say you should you shouldn't
rhyn people should say that you shouldwork out three times of weeks, you
should work out a little bit everyday. So people are like so much
information, and again it's like youbecome like, I don't know what to

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do, so I'm not gonna doanything. And I see that in the
world of organization, where people arelike, I don't know a product to
buy, I don't know if Ishould be a minimalist or I should color
code everything. And there's all ofthese like buckets that people want to put
themselves in and it doesn't have tobe as rigid as that. And That's
what I'm hearing from you. ButI think it's a real thing. And

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again that's where I see so manyparallels and kind of what we both do
that how do you you touched ona little bit like the factual steps that
you could tell people, Okay,just do these little things. Start to
see what are some things that youcan do that are gonna not be in
all an investment and say, ohmy gosh, I screwed up. Yes,

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one hundred percent. And we talkeda lot on the Bee the Good
with Kate episode that Laurie was onabout those parallels of the overwhelmed walking into
a house that feels so cluttered.I don't know where to start, so
I'm not going to do anything versusthat starting. Like even I tell a
lot of people, write down everything, what are you feeling, what scares
you about fitness, what scares youabout not doing anything, and just observing

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all of that and letting your thevery what's the word just overwhelmed brain just
kind of get out whatever it wantsto on paper, and then you can
start with that one step. AndI know you see it with clients too.
It's like that one step I cantake and something that I've gone back
to so much since hearing him interviewedand then reading his book, is James

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clear, do you know thetic habits? Habits exactly? I love sess.
I just love how he frames thingbecause it really makes it digestible to just
us, the ordinary people. Andone of the things I go back to
so much with my clients is hetalks about in order to make a habit,
you can't start by running the marathon, right, you have to you're

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not going to run a marathon everyday. Or if we need an every
day example, like maybe you're notgoing to run three miles every day.
That's completely overwhelming. If right nowyou're sitting on a couch and you don't
move at all, right, togive it this a very blood example,
but he goes what you can doare ten squats that takes twenty seconds.
You can do five push ups.And if you do something for one or

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two minutes every single day, andyou keep it at one or two minutes
to start, you're keeping the overwhelmaway. But you are proving to yourself,
because again, so much is psychological. So much is you're proving to
yourself that you have become the typeof person who moves, who makes a
conscious effort to help their body.So I'm always telling people, don't say

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only it's never only ten squads orfive push ups. That's so huge.
We show up for ourselves, andshowing up for ourselves in any capacity is
what is going to then help usbecome someone who walks for an hour a
day, or you're saying I don'tknow time for an hour, that's okay.
You're going to become someone who takesfive minutes a day to do some

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exercises to strengthen their body or justmove and wake up their body. There's
so much that can be accomplished ina couple of minutes. And again people
get overwhelmed. But like that,But that's why people like me have jobs,
right, health coaches or people thatbreak things down online or there are
lots of people out there on socialmedia for good that are trying to provote
better habits instead of trying to belike, oh, it's all or nothing

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and if you don't do this diet, you're not going anywhere, or I'm
just trying to sell you something andwhatever. And again, so I love
what you said. And I'm abig James Claire fan as well. I'm
also a fan of doctor John Deloneyand he I love the mindset that because
he says that as well, Iam somebody who takes care of my body.

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And so if I am somebody whotakes care of my body, what
does that mean? That means thatI try. It doesn't mean that you
never have ice cream. It doesn'tmean that you take a day off,
but it means that foundationally, thisis something that you do. It's part
of who you are, and sowhat are the action steps that you're going
to do? And I am likean eighty twenty person, right, so
I'm like, listen, if Ican show up and give eighty percent,

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like even if I'm not at aone hundred percent, that's fine. But
I'm not having a bad day,and I just go to the gym even
if I'm not like beast mode whatever, but I am there and I'm modifying
the workout because I didn't have agood night's sleep or I can only get
not only, but I can getthere for I can commit in my schedule

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for twenty minutes instead of an hour, it's still twenty minutes that I'm doing
it. It's still eighty percent orfifty percent. But that is a mindset
shift. Because so many of us, as a company included, came from
this like it has to be thebest, or I have to be all
in, or it's just negated,and that is just a false snare it.

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Yeah. Oh, when a hundredpercent years back, somebody in one
of my fitness classes, I guessI made a comment of I'm really tired
today, so I'm not going todo this exercise with you, but you
go ahead, like a joking,but I was exhausted, and she come
to me after it said, ohmy gosh, it felt so I don't
forget the word she used, likerelatable or something like that, that I

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knew you were tired and didn't wantto do the exercise either, And that
always stuck with me because I waslike, wow, they sometimes people do
put people who have words like fitnessprofessional in their title or athlete in their
title on a pedestal and think theyjust must always be people who are at
the gym or always running this amountof miles a day. I'm like,

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honestly, the other day I wentto the gym. But I went to
the gym and I walked for fifteenminutes on the treadmill and then I left.
But you know what I showed up. I moved with my body a
bit and that was what I neededfor that day. So it's all of
us get tired, all of ushave days we're not motivated. But it
is that, like you said,that mindset of what can I do?

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And the other thing that I alwayslove to remind people is did you ever
regret a workout? Did you everregret moving? Maybe we regretted, maybe
we regretted going all out on thoselunges when really we should have stopped before
because we're so sore the next day, that kind of thing, But did
you regret moving the body? Like? We always feel better, We always

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feel more alive, more awake,Our brain is on better, and studies
after studies will show you too.Like when it comes to workplace productivity,
people who focus on their health areso much better employees. The list goes
on and again, the same.You can substitute the word organizing and decluttering
for fitness. It is the samething. Sometimes you're like, oh,

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slow getting started to I really wantto sit here and ed at my closet.
But when it's done, you're like, oh my gosh, I feel
so much better. I feel somuch lighter, and if it's that ongoing
practice of doing those little incremental things. And you mentioned athletes, and I
think that's also really another important pointbecause you do have people. And I'm

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thinking of this in my own personalexperience, right. So I have two
grown ish kids. I say,they're nineteen and twenty two, and my
twentwo year old was my super athletegrowing up and voted most athletic in her
high school and play three sports andall the things, and just very active
and was used to a very regimentedfitness schedule because she was in trading with

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coaches all the time. And thenwent into all of a sudden, you
don't have that outer accountability of somebodydoing that for you, and you have
to find that discipline elsewhere, right, whether it's with an accountability partner,
a buddy, you're joining a correctteam. Now. Through college, she
played like interial sports and stuff.She didn't play professionally for school, but

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like always remained active. But itis a completely different experience. And I
remember having conversations with her when shefirst went away to school and it was
the first time in her life thatshe didn't have a coach making her run
or making her do whatever, andshe said, I've always done it and

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never thought about it because I hadsomebody constantly motivating me, my team,
I had all these things, andnow when it is only on me,
I'm finding it like really hard.Like the thought of going out for a
run is I don't want to goout for a run. And I found
it very interesting and I and Ithink that there's probably a lot of people

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that are listening that are like,I'm in a I am in a different
season of life now, and sothe parameters change on how I view exercise
and what's gonna What is my driverfor being motivated to get up to do
the thing? Yeah, And soI'm wondering if you can just maybe speak

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into that, or if you've seenthat with some of the clients that you
work with that or like, waita second, I used to be this
like go one hundred miles an hour, and now I'm like what totally one
hundred said? And what you saidjust there of the different seasons of life
and basically knowing what your motivation isat that time, that's huge, right,

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because if you just say go outand run, it's like what I
need more than that, I alwaysneed the why why am I running?
Right? I'm running because I knowthat for the rest of the day,
I'm going to pete so much betterat everything else I have to do.
If I start by getting a runin, or if I have an audition
in the morning, I have towake up earlier to get the workout in
before because for me, and thisis again everybody's different. For me,

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getting that blood flow in the morningmakes everything better for then what follows it.
And I know, like even justseeing myself on camera, if I
haven't worked out, I look different. Just there's so much There's just so
many physical benefits, but the mentalbenefits too, and so that is often
my why, right, It's likehow I will feel afterwards, But I

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know there. I have the sweetestcouple. They're seventy five years old each
and they have been trading with mefor years, and I love like their
why is that they are so proudthat they are in their seventies and still
moving. And we're not doing bootcamp classes with them. I'm talking we're
like on all fours doing some reaches, We're doing some squats, some leg

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lifts, things, just to reallymake sure that all the muscles are moving
and staying strong, and that iswhat makes them feel good, and they
know that they need it and theyknow that it's so good for them,
and so they show up every singleweek. But then that is a bit
different than in the corporate world whereI've taught for so many years, seeing

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those twenty somethings come in who itjust left college and are used to being
either athletes in college or in theintramurals, very similar to what you're saying
with your daughter. Who they wantthe craziest boot camp I can throw at
them, but they know that theyhave to show up there if they want
to make it happen, because theyneed someone to tell them to do it.

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And the other reason it works outis because it's in their office because
they have crazy hours, so theyjust have to get on the elevator,
go to the gym, go backto their desk the night shift, so
like just to give too like totalopposite worlds, and then you have everything
in between. Like I've trained pregnantclients who are there because again, they
know they're going to feel better andthey know they're going to have an easier

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pregnancy if they are stronger. Ihave someone who reminded me of it,
as you were saying, like goingthrough menopause, who says to me,
like, I feel like I'm doingwhat I've always been doing, and i
always show up at the gym,and I'm always so conscious of my nutrition,
but my body's doing so many differentthings that it's like the same old
stuff that I was doing that feltso good isn't working the same. And

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so it is like life is constantlya trial and error right of what's working
today or what's working this week.So it's just keep having that like optimism
of I'll find it. And maybetoday didn't quite work out like I thought
it would be. But what's thewhy? Why do I want to show
up? Why do I want tomake this positive choice for myself? And
just going with that each day.I love it. And the common the

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world that keeps coming into my mindis intentionality. And I think again,
it goes through. I know it'snot like broken record, But again,
with organizing and working out, it'snot a one and done thing, right,
you don't. You may have thisgoal, right, Your goal might
be to run a marathon or losea certain amount of weight or whatever that

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is, or have your areas yourcloset or be able to park your card
in your garage, whatever your goalis, that's great that you get it,
but it's not okay period the endwe're done. We life goes on
and for better or worse, like, we need to continue these healthy practices,
whether it's with our bodies, whetherit's with our mind, whether it's

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with our spaces, to continue tonavigate that. So what's next. Okay,
we achieve that goal, you ranthe marathon or the five k or
whatever it is. Now what wedon't just come to a screeching halt,
But you also might not be ableto sustain that same level of intensity.
And the same goes through with organizing. You may have had a goal and

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been working day and night to declutterthis space or get out of debt or
all of these things have so manyparallels, but then you just need to
redefine it. And I think thatis what's so important. And I see
a lot of women when we talkabout the productivity and the mental load and
all the things with wearing so manyhats. That again, and I was

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at this person where I was like, I just don't have time. I'm
working, I'm a busy mom withlittle kids back in the day, and
I was like, I just don'thave time, and yes, it's hard,
But again, I love what yousaid at the top of the show
where you're like, Okay, youjust don't park at the far spot of
Target if you can't get to thegym because you can't figure out another way

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to make it work, because foryour mental health, your mental sanity,
not to mention the physical benefits thatcome from eating right and working out,
Like you're going to be a betterversion of you. Yeah, yes,
you're going to be a better versionof you. Yes, absolutely, And
just like going with more examples likethe Target one, another one I love

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in the suburbs, you have thesegiant stores, right like super Walmarts,
Super Target, super everything, takinga lap around the whole store before you
start shopping. Like I did athing on Instagram a couple of months ago
where I checked how many steps Igot, just like, how many steps
did I add to my day justdoing one lap. I'm forgetting the number
right now, but it was likesignificant and it only took a couple minute,

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and it was like I'm at thestore ready. I didn't have to
do any extra effort. If youhave a child in the cart, you
just push them with it and youget that one lap in and then you
do your official shopping. So allthose things. Or if it's a rainy
day and you could safely walk upand down the stairs in your house,
walk up and down those stairs andjust challenge yourself, how many times am

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I going to do it? Maybeit's two one day, maybe it's twenty
another day, but you just didit. You've got your heart going,
you work those gluts and the legs. Just there's so much I tell people
a lot in my bloodies classes,these side leg left. Do it while
you're watching TV, when we're sittingthere, when you finally do get that
break. Can you lie on theground and do a couple of things,
or even sitting at the chair,sitting on your chair, sit up tall,

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do some abdominal work, just contractingand lifting, opening up the back
of it. There's just there's somany ways to do that to add those
extratrosity. Okay, I couldn't agreemore. And the other thing I want
to say, and again, it'sreally just for people to be well,
right. I want people to bewell mentally physically all the things, And

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I think as a parent, andI know myself, I was very guilty
of this, and it was Iwas a big martyr in the sense of
I felt I had to do itall and all of these things, like
I was getting some badge of honorfor being busy and doing all of the
things by myself. And I thinkthere's a gift in being able to show

(28:56):
your kids that your take your prayerpitizing some time for your own wellness so
that you can get on the floorand play with them, so that you
can not have a some peace andcomm in your life. I have I
walk with a friend of mine.We started walking during COVID. We live
in a neighborhood and during COVID wejust started like lapping miles and miles and

(29:18):
it was great and we've kept itup throughout since then, and we tried.
It doesn't happen every day because sometimeswe have things come up, but
we pretty much try to do it. And a couple of weeks ago,
we were going on a weekend andI said, do you have time to
do a longer walk and she said, yeah, I just had to be
back my certain time because she hassomewhere to go for her daughter, and

(29:40):
we went and she was back intime. But her daughter was like,
really, nap, you were gonefor so long and you know all this,
Like why try to guilt her mom? And I said to my friend,
I know you want to strangle her, so that I still have a
conversation with her and explained to hereven if she doesn't fully comprehend, like

(30:02):
I you just like you have timeto go play with your friends, and
you have time to do things likeI need to have some alone time too,
and I need this, and Ipromise you I'd be back. So
I wasn't choosing the workout over mykid. But I think it's healthy as
parents to have our kids see thatwe are doing things for ourselves because they

(30:22):
are. We are then giving thempermission we are They're leading by example to
be able to know that this issomething that's a priority. And this is
again we're talking about long term wellness. That's what we that's what we talk
about here at this organized life.It's like, how can you just be
well in all aspects of your life? And so I love these little things

(30:45):
that you've been dropping for us.Well, something that you said that ties
with this, So you mentioned howpeople like they want to get their car
in their garage, so they areworking over time to get that garage organized,
and then afterwards, it's not theperiod of intensions. And I think
of that. Another great parallel isI want to lose x amount of pounds
before my wedding, or I wantto get back to my tree pregnancy weight,

(31:08):
or I want to run a marathon. So I'm going to be super
dedicated before and then it is whathappens after, and we don't have to
keep that up. We don't haveto keep that intensity up because again,
not sustainable long term and long termwellness, long term peace of mind in
a clutter free home. Same idea, right, It's like, how do
we then maintain it? And that'swhere it becomes that finding the way to

(31:32):
put those steps into our everyday lives, picking up making it a habit to
pick up after yourself at home,to put things where they belong at home.
Same thing with fitness, making thathabit to start your day with movement
or end your day with movement,or bring a friend in. That's so
huge and such a great way tokeep something going. I love walk dates
with walking dates with friends, likeinstead of going out for a drink,

(31:53):
let's go out for a walk,and people are really about it because we
all need to find ways to moveare Yeah, I just wanted to tag
that in No, I absolutely loveit. And again for people that are
listening, because people are like,what's the magic number? I think in
like, people are what's the magicnumbers? How many? How many pairs
of shoes should I own? Howmany shirts? Like? People want that

(32:15):
magic number? Tell me what?And again everything is relative. Then I
hate to be the bear like I'mjust not somebody who believes that you should
have this is it? Your lifeis going to be in a nice neat
bow if you have three pairs ofshoes and five shirts. That doesn't work
that way, hey, And Ithink the same goes true for fitness.
But the one thing that I'm takingaway from this conversation is it's the ongoing

(32:37):
practice. So every day might notlook the same, and some days you
may have time to do an hourlong workout or maybe even a two hour
workout, and some days it mightbe twenty minutes or five Doing something every
day, even if it's five minutesor two minutes whatever is again, it's

(32:58):
keeping that like my body like weare we're on this journey together kind of
thing. Yeah, absolutely, absolutely, and finding where it works in your
life. The people I see thatreally seem to have the most success with
sticking to plans long term. Andthis is more in the fitness versus nutrition,

(33:20):
because nutrition obviously we need to eatthroughout the day. But for movement,
I see people who find a wayto have it automatically in their schedule
and then again going back to thatmindset of finding ways throughout the day to
move more and that mix of that, what's the person Six am sounds insane
for some people. Other people Iknow that's their workout time and that's what

(33:40):
works for them, and nothing canget in the way of six am.
Your kids don't have practice at sixam, your boss doesn't have a meeting
at six am unless you're talking withanother country or something like that. But
for the most part that I've seenpeople like nothing can interrupt that. Or
it's like at work and it's alunch hour and they can go in a

(34:00):
conference room, or they can leaveand go to a nearby gym, or
they have a gym in their buildingand it's that, or it's again,
if you're not in an office,and you're not in a gym setting it.
You don't need a gym membership.It's that as soon as you wake
up, I'm going to do tenpush ups, ten squats, couple deep
breaths and go on with my day. It's finding that making it, going

(34:22):
back to again have it, offinding a way to put it in your
life, and then the mindset ofhow can I keep adding movement throughout my
day. It's so true. Andagain I've never been an early morning like
early early morning workout person like Ijust am not. And there have been
seasons of my life where that wasthe only time I could do it,
and I would do it, andother times that was when it worked and

(34:44):
I didn't do it. I probablywasn't my healthy. Yes, one of
the things that's been actually great forme from because I'm all about time blocking
and putting margin in and all thatstuff, and you would talk all about
that norky stuff. But now thatI'm an empty dester, I actually prefer
working out at like around four orfive because it forces me to stop work

(35:07):
and go leave. So I'll walkin the morning if I can, which
is great. I do like mymorning walk with my friend. And then
I come back and I work eitherfrom my home office or with a client
or wherever. And then because Idon't I'm not running kids anymore to basketball,
soccer, guitar lessons, whatever itis, which I spent decades doing,

(35:31):
but I don't have that. NowI'm like, this forces me to
say, okay, I'm ending mywork day right now, I'm pausing it
and I'm going to replace that timethat I was chauffeuring and doing all that
harried stuff with a workout and thenand I love that, but a few

(35:51):
like even five years ago, thatwouldn't have been realistic for me. So
I think, again, look atwhere you are, look at where you
are in your world. Is itsomething that And I never thought I would
enjoy doing a four thirty workout ifyou would ask me that, I'd been
like, no, I don't wantto do that. And now I actually
look forward to it like my dayends, and I do that and then

(36:13):
come home and show and relax.But it would not have worked for me
at another point in my life.So if you're listening out there, think
about play around with different scenarios ofhow can I work in some sort of
wellness in where I am to meetme where I am. And that's why

(36:34):
again it's there's never a one sizefifth. All right, I'm not going
to stand here and be like,if you work out at eight am every
day, you're going to be successful. Of no, sure, if you
stock your shelves with only X,Y and Z foods, it's gonna be
great. It's so everyone is different. We are all so different, and
the psychology of it is different.And some people want to plan written out
and they will follow it to at. Other people will be like,

(36:58):
I need a lot more flexibility andeverything in between. So I love that
you found this like new schedule that'sgoing to work great for you. Yeah,
yeah, it is. It's beenfun and I really like it.
And I do go with friends becausethere are days that I don't feel like
it. It's like maybe I havea long day at work or it's raining
outside and you're like, I don'twant to go, And knowing that I

(37:21):
have a couple of friends that weall go together, that helps. We
have a group chat and it helpsto motivate us to show up even when
we don't want to. And sojust having that for people out there,
we don't have to do it allalone. We really don't. So helpful,
all right, Kate. I couldtalk to you all day about this

(37:42):
and so many other things. Tellour listeners if they want to connect up
with you, what is the bestplace to find you. I know you
have, like you said, allthese on demand stuff, you do,
masterclasses, all this stuff. Sowhether somebody just wants to follow you on
social media or maybe wants to workwith you, plug away, right,
And there's there's a lot of freeresources on my website b by Kate dot

(38:04):
com. That's b E b ykat dot com and that also has links
to Instagram which is b by Kate, but there's a period in it,
just a very off so it bE period by Kat. And I have
YEP on demand platform for Plotti's Yoganow Yoga, Plody's Bar, and a
whole bunch of other classes in hitand breaking down, strength training and meal

(38:30):
plans. And then it also hadthree courses that are the one on one
series. It's Bar one on one, plots one on one, and hit
one on one. And that's agreat way because over the years I've seen
a big issue as people coming intoa class or getting a class on YouTube
or somewhere on demand and trying togo all out but not knowing the basics
of the exercises, and so manyclasses are tailored to a slightly more advanced

(38:52):
level, or even a beginner classkind of assumes that you know certain foundational
exercises. So I made that threeclass series, the one on one series,
so that people can really have adigestible way that yeah, and they
can hit play, they can rewind, they can fast forward. She'll say,
I feel safe going into a workout. So that's there too. And

(39:13):
again, there's a blog on mywebsite, lots of free ideas, resources
exercises there, and I love hearingfrom people. Please reach out, you
have just random questions you want toask me, go for it awesome And
of course we will link to allof this in our show notes. So
if you are out, maybe walkingright now, or don't worry about it,
make sure you head over to ourpodcast page or wherever you're listening,

(39:36):
and you'll be able to connect upwith Pate there as well. We're going
to take a quick break and whenwe come back, we're just gonna wrap
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(39:57):
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(40:20):
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(40:45):
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And it's also something that is aproject that you can assign to the
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come home, say hey, Iwant you to sort through this pile of

(41:07):
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(41:32):
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(41:52):
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(42:15):
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(43:01):
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order. All right, Kate,this has been so fun. And again
I'm like, I'm so coold s. I'm like, I wish it was

(43:22):
in New York, but come onlyan hour it's away, Like I'm gonna
come in and maybe we'll go fora walk. We'll go for a walk.
I'm well, we'll go for awalk. I love it. So
we always ask our guests a fewquestions. One of them is obviously about
inspiration, because you're inspiring us andI know you already reference James Clear's book
Atomic Had It, so that mightbe the answer that you're going to give

(43:43):
here. But we always like toknow, is there a book that's been
either transformational like can your own likeEvolution, or just something that is like
a go to that you recommend forpeople that you can share with our listeners.
Sure, I recommend to everybody howto win friends and infu people.
To some people it's like re sayingthings that they already know, and to

(44:05):
other people it's enlightening for the firstSo it depends on where you follow in
that spectrum of personalities. I get. I just think it's so wonderful.
There's just so much actionable advice andjust reminders of just how to be a
great human and also communicate with othersin both professional and personal environments. Everythink
I read it the first time incollege. I highlight it all through Reddit.

(44:28):
Thin. Yeah, it's a greatone. I love it, and
we'll of course link to that.Yeah, just be a nice just be
a good kind human. That's it. It's really it's the low bar people.
Yes, and then because our showsall about honesty and authenticity, we
like to know. As you said, people assume that you are you have
it all together because you're a fitnessinstructor. People think my house is always

(44:50):
can just perfect, and it's notfar from it. So in this particular
season of your life, where doyou feel that you were the most organized
and where do you feel like you'rea little bit of bombs. It's funny
because the season of life I'm enteringright now is a very different one.
So everything feels off. I oh, Laurie already knows what I'm pregnant as
we record this, and we haveto date. So it's just everything feels

(45:15):
a little bit more like a hotmess than it usually does. But I
will say that the organized part,I think because fitness is such a part
of my life. I do feellike that I always know that I'm making
time to do that. And likeI said the other day, I did
a fifteen minute walk on a treadmill, but I did something. And yes,
even again, not to assume thata fitness instructor is always doing hour

(45:38):
long workouts at the gym, butI do always find time in my day
to do something because I know thatit benefits the entire rest of my day.
So I would say that that isa piece that I always hold on
to no matter what. I loveit. I love it. I think
that's so great. Hate you arejust a joy and I'm so glad that

(45:58):
we know. And I'm also goingto link the episode that I was on
your show as well so that ourlisteners can do like a cross back to
effect, and I encourage you again, like I said at the top of
the episode, listen to some ofher other episodes as well, because it
really is just about kindness, inspiringstories from all like a diverse group of
people, and it's a great andgracious host. And I thank you for

(46:20):
the opportunity to be on your show, and I'm so glad that you are
able to carve out time to comeon this Organized Life and share your wisdom
with our people. Looy, Ican't thank you enough. I'm serious.
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