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June 17, 2019 92 mins

Hello Dear Listeners,

We hope you are having a wonderful start to summer and enjoying the warmth and sun.  Cookouts are a wonderful summer tradition and this week we decided to bring you an epicurean focused episode.

Gilberto Valle, dubbed the "Cannibal Cop" is a former NYPD officer who was found guilty of conspiracy to commit kidnapping in 2013, and later had his conviction overturned in 2014.  Gilberto's charges stemmed from his behavior in online chat rooms regarding fantasy writing involving the rape, murder, and cannibalization of numerous women.  To say this case is complex is an understatement, but Katya and Laramie dig into what makes this such a scary situation.

Also, Katya and Laramie struggle with New York geography, discuss diagnostic criteria in the DSM-5 and try to pin down where the line is between thought crimes and real crimes.  So join us for some ups and downs on this wacky episode!

**Clinkies**

Katya and Laramie

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