May 21, 2025 • 30 mins
Transforming with Thyroid Strong: A Journey of Strength and Healing with Barbie Beavers
Dr. Emily Kiberd introduces Barbie Beavers, a past Thyroid Strong member who shares her transformative journey. Barbie discusses her significant results in weight loss, increased energy levels, and joint stability aimed at avoiding osteoporosis. They explore Barbie's history with Hashimoto's, various injuries, and the role weightlifting played in her recovery and overall well-being. Dr. Kiberd also highlights a special sale and bonuses for Thyroid Strong, a six-week course designed for women with Hashimoto's to build strength and confidence. Full of insightful tips on overcoming fear of weightlifting, modifying exercises, and sustaining motivation, this episode is a testament to the power of persistence and proper guidance.
00:00 Introduction and Special Guest Announcement
00:24 Thyroid Strong Program Details and Benefits
01:47 Welcoming Barbie Beavers
02:08 Barbie's Health Journey and Family History
05:04 Challenges and Experiences with Yoga
07:20 Transition to Weightlifting and Thyroid Strong
13:22 Program Structure and Personal Adjustments
14:58 Energy Levels and Thyroid Lab Results
15:56 Discovering Thyroid Issues
16:29 Chiropractic Adjustments and Pelvic Stability
17:18 Managing Shoulder and Back Pain
18:35 The Importance of Proper Lifting Techniques
19:59 Overcoming Injuries and Staying Motivated
24:11 Investing in Home Workout Equipment
27:09 Transitioning from Yoga to Strength Training
28:49 The Benefits of Strength Training for Women
29:49 Final Thoughts and Encouragement
To jump on this special discount of Thyroid Strong, $200 off, 40% off before 5/22/25! Go to www.dremilykiberd.com/tssummer/
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AT2020USB+ (00:00):
What's up?
Lovely ladies, Dr.
Emily Kiberd here.
I wanted to jump in here really quick.
I have a very specialguest on Barbie Beavers.
She is one of the past thyroid strongmembers and she had amazing results
with, weight loss and boostingher energy and joints feeling
stable and feeling really strong.
Her whole goal was to.
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Avoid osteoporosis, whichher grandmother had.
And I wanted to share this becausewe have a very special sale going
on right now with thyroid strong,$200 off the six week course.
We do it about twice a year.
And if you are interested in joiningThyroid Strong this next round,
there are amazing bonuses with guestexperts, different functional medicine
(00:44):
doctors on how to heal your gut withHashimotos, how to do a protein forward
elimination diet with Hashimotos.
How to read your labs with Hashimotos.
Um, how to understand yourmedication better with Hashimotos.
And all of this only happens.
When we open doors and they'reopen right now, I'm gonna drop
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the link in the show notes.
Uh, so far about 30 women have signed upand it's gonna be a great group of women.
They're dedicated, they're ready.
They're ordering kettlebells orfinding a weight around the house and.
You don't wanna miss out, right?
Because think about your life sixmonths from now, A year from now.
What do you want it to look like?
What do you wanna feel like?
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How do you wanna feelconfidence in your body?
Now's the time to take action.
It's summertime.
We're going into summer mine's.
Well do the work now so that by theend of summer, you feel amazing.
All right, ladies, the link iswww.dremilykiberd.com/programoptions
EMILY (01:47):
barbie Beavers, welcome to Thyroid Strong Podcasts.
I'm excited to have you here.
You are one of the women who joinedThyroid Strong, one of the many
women, and got amazing results andhas really changed how you're working
out and how you move your body.
So welcome.
I'm excited to have you here.
Thank you.
I'm excited to be here.
(02:08):
Yeah.
So you have Hashimotos?
Yes, I do.
And what were some of your symptomsor what are some of your symptoms
currently?
Um, well I have Hashimotosand on, um, menopausal.
So I have, um, I was havinglow energy weight gain.
(02:28):
Weight gain, then
pot, um, double whammy.
BARBIE (02:33):
Yeah.
So, um, those were the two main reasons.
Um, and then my, mygrandmother had osteoporosis.
Um, she had broke her first hip when I wasstill in, like freshman in high school.
Um, and then she broke the otherhip, um, once I, I had graduated high
(02:54):
school, so I mean, it, they weren't.
Real close together, but theyweren't real far apart either.
EMILY (02:59):
How old was she?
Do you know?
BARBIE (03:01):
Um, I don't know.
Um, she was 91, 92 when she died,so it, it had been like 30, 40 years
before, so she couldn't have been,but you know, maybe early sixties.
Yeah.
That's,
EMILY (03:16):
so she broke her first hip young.
BARBIE (03:18):
Yeah.
And they think that she wasjust walking and the joint gave
out, so, um, she apparently hadosteoporosis pretty bad, and I don't
EMILY (03:27):
want it.
No one wants that, plus no.
Once you break a hip, thedecline, I'm sure, as you
probably observed, is very quick.
BARBIE (03:36):
Yes.
Hers did not set right,um, on the first go around.
And so she had a hard time getting around.
Yeah, so then she was less active.
Um, got heavy, ended up withdiabetes, you know, the whole thing
as you, as you become less mobile.
So, um, yeah.
Uh, if I'm, I'm, I look like her, so I'mhoping I have a good long life like her.
(03:59):
Yeah.
And, um, So I want, and whenI'm 93, I wanna be going
EMILY (04:04):
strong.
Yeah.
And one of the best ways, and evenconventional medicine recommends
us, is to increase your bonedensity by lifting weights.
Yeah.
Which I was afraid of.
It's scary, right?
Like if you've never done it before,like when do we learn to lift weights?
BARBIE (04:20):
Uh, never.
Never.
And you know, I'm 51.
So even back then, you know,athletes today are taught,
you know, where their core is.
And back when I was in school, nobodyever taught us how to engage our core.
Yeah.
So, you know, I was playingsoftball, I was cheerleading, um,
(04:42):
and, and none of those sports.
Did anybody ever teach youwhere your core was and
how
EMILY (04:46):
to use it?
Yeah.
I think in an ideal world it wouldbe part of the physical education.
Right?
Just like, mm-hmm.
Yeah.
Kids kind of like run the, themile, the president's mile.
Yeah.
They would also learn how to engagethe core, how to breathe properly,
how to brace properly, which wetalk about in thyroid strong.
How are you working outbefore you joined thyroid?
Strong yoga.
(05:07):
Yoga.
Yoga.
Yoga.
Okay.
Any particular flavor of yoga?
BARBIE (05:11):
Um, I prefer Iyengar if I can get it.
Um, but if I can't, thenI'll do, I'll do whatever.
EMILY (05:19):
Yeah.
Yeah.
Did you have any injuries whileyou, during your yoga practice?
BARBIE (05:24):
Yes.
Um, uh, when I first startedyoga, I, I popped ribs a lot.
Mm-hmm.
Um, I would have ribs dislocate a lot,um, and then my low back and, um, I've
always had tight shoulders and I washoping that yoga would help with the
(05:45):
tight shoulders, but, and it did it,I mean, I can't say that it didn't,
but I still have limited mobility in
EMILY (05:52):
my shoulders.
Yeah.
Do you think, did you ever correlatelike some of the low back pain or
si joint pain to like overstretchinghamstrings, the back to your legs at all?
Did you ever notice?
No.
No.
I did
not
BARBIE (06:03):
correlate that at the time I do now.
Oh, I love it.
I also, um, I also have a littlehypermobility in my low back
according to my chiropractor.
Mm-hmm.
Um, and, and ev forward folds arejust like, I could stay in a forward
fold, especially a wide-leggedstanding forward fold all day.
(06:25):
Mm-hmm.
And you know, that's reallynot what I should be doing for.
My particular
EMILY (06:31):
body.
Yeah.
So for listeners who don'tknow, this correlation of
low back pain and hamstrings.
When we overstretch our hamstrings,which are the le the muscle in
the back of our legs, um, when weoverstretch them, they insert into our
pelvis and they're kind of like ouranchors that hold our pelvis in place.
So when we overstretch them, Wecan then get this kind of like sway
(06:55):
back or banana back where a pelvisjust kind of dumps forward cuz
there's nothing anchoring them down.
So, um, And oftentimes when people havetight hamstrings, so kind of the opposite
end, like people are like, oh, I gottastretch, I gotta stretch my hamstrings.
They oftentimes will have a weakcore and if you address the core,
the hamstring tightness will let gocuz the body is stabilizing properly.
(07:20):
Um, so you joined thyroid Strong.
Which was probably a littlebit of a leap because it sounds
like weightlifting was scary.
It was a big leap.
What kinda like, what was like, you'relike, okay, I'm gonna make the leap.
What was that feeling inside of youor what kind of pushed you to do it?
BARBIE (07:38):
Well, I, I don't, I, I, I've been wanting to lift weights
for, I don't know, probably, Idunno, maybe even longest 10 years.
Um, weightlifting and boxing wastwo of the things though on my.
Um, I wanna a learn list.
Yeah.
I still haven't learned a box, but, um,I just, I didn't feel comfortable with
(07:59):
any of, I mean, we live in very smallareas, so there's not a lot of opportunity
for working one-on-one with trainersand trainers that I had in my area.
They scared me.
Um, why so I, I know I have a limit.
Um, I don't have a lot of energy reserved.
Mm-hmm.
And I mean, it was like CrossFit and.
(08:22):
Um, I tried hot yoga onceand it about killed me, uh,
come out of their, um, tank.
I mean, I did, I wasn'ttrying hot yoga on purpose.
It just happened.
I went to a class and itturned out to be hot yoga.
Um,
EMILY (08:34):
that's the worst.
You're like, I didn't knowit was gonna be like this.
BARBIE (08:38):
I know.
I didn't, I was not properlyprepared with a towel for my
yoga mat, so I didn't face plant.
Yeah.
In my own sweat.
Um, so I come outta there like, uh, youknow, just trash for a couple of days.
So I did not want, I was just a numberone, I was afraid I had bulged a disc,
(09:00):
um, at work, bending, lifting andtwisting, which, you know, that's a no-no.
And I just, I was notthinking, I was feeling really
strong that day, apparently.
Um, And then, so I tweaked my backand then I kept forward folding,
and then during a forward fold,because the forward fold felt good.
(09:20):
Um, I popped that I bulged that disc.
So I had that going on.
Um, I mean, I get the weird injuries.
Um, I fell on my tailbone, um,kicking the soccer ball for my dog.
On a icy surface.
Oh, uh, I know I fell off my horse whenI was 17 on that same, on the same side
(09:43):
that I, that I hit that time, which is thesame side that I bulged the disc and then
I was dropped on my head in cheerleading
EMILY (09:50):
practice.
So lots of bingers.
And you've had frozen shoulder syndrome,
BARBIE (09:56):
right?
I have had frozen shoulder in highschool, which is kind of unusual
to, for you to be that young.
Yeah.
Um, but I'm pretty sure that probablycame from, uh, softball and I also in
high school, which makes me think thatI probably should have been diagnosed
with Hashimoto's like way back.
I mean it, I was probably in mythirties before I was diagnosed.
(10:18):
Um, I tore a ligamentin the arch of my foot.
Um, and nobody could, wereally never figured out how.
I was sitting in therecliner watching a movie.
I get up out of the recliner andthe ball of my foot goes squish.
So I had tore it enough thatit bled into the ball of
EMILY (10:34):
my foot.
Wow.
So for women who don't know, andthere's actually research paper on
this, they took women with known frozenshoulder symptoms, women and men, and
they measured their thyroid labs and.
Almost all of them had elevated T s H.
So that hypothyroid componentoftentimes can lead to or go hand
(10:56):
in hand with frozen shoulder.
And when you hear of injuries thatkind of come outta nowhere, like
stepping off a recliner isn't.
Right, like a big move.
Or you hear about injuries that areoveruse injuries, like you have an
injury and you just keep going to pt andnext thing you know, like a year later
(11:16):
you're still going to physical therapy.
If you haven't been diagnosedwith hypothyroidism, you wanna
double check like your clinician.
In an ideal world, your physical therapistwould be like, Hey, I noticed you're not
getting better on the normal timeline.
Ideally, maybe you could reach out to yourprimary care to check your thyroid labs,
cuz hypothyroidism and unresolved overuseinjuries can often go hand in hand.
(11:39):
So what was your experienceinside thyroid Strong?
I,
BARBIE (11:45):
I was having, I was struggling with overhead press.
Um, which I have now, thankfully.
And, um, on that shoulder that hadbeen frozen, that is, it's tweaky.
Um, but you, you helped me through that.
Yeah.
And it did not, it did not putme off of trying the rest of it.
Cause girl, deadlifts
EMILY (12:04):
fun.
I know.
So good, right?
BARBIE (12:07):
It is good.
Yeah.
Okay.
So I have found, I have foundthat I, I like heavy, um, So I,
I'm really surprised about that.
I mean, I've toed around feet sacks,feet backs are 50 pounds, um, for years.
But they, they wiggle,um, kind of like a kid.
(12:27):
And so when you have a solid, I mean,and I struggled, but when you have
that solid weight to lift and, and it.
You know, it's not going anywhere.
Um, it's, it's a lot more fun.
And when you know how to brace and howto stack and how to get yourself, um,
(12:48):
in the right position, that it doesn'tmake your back feel tweaky, then it's
EMILY (12:54):
all great.
Yeah.
Yeah.
The form and is so important to preventinjury and then learning how to.
Make your core strong, right?
Because when are we told that?
Like how many times have you beenin an exercise class and they're
like, engage your core, andyou're like, am I doing it right?
How about now?
Is this like, like, it's suchan ethereal phrase, right?
(13:16):
Like what does that mean?
Yeah.
Uh, but we keep exactly likeliterally step by step how to
do it inside Throid strong.
Um, what were some, other thandeadlifting, what were some of your
favorite things about the program?
Um,
BARBIE (13:29):
I like the way you start slow.
Um, I love the rehab videos.
Ooh, I didn't know that.
Yes, yes.
I like the rehab videos.
Um, I like the, um,
I don't, just the structureof having, you know, you do,
(13:50):
you do it three times a week.
You take your rest days, youtake that extra rest day.
I had to, I had to wigglethat around a little bit.
Um, sometimes, like I would do twodays, fill a little down, take the
extra rest day in the middle, andso I like completely trashed your
calendar.
EMILY (14:09):
But I got That's ok.
You can make it your own.
That's the whole pointI got to it in the end.
BARBIE (14:14):
I think I was a week behind by the time I finished, but I finished
and I just didn't feel the pressure.
I mean, I've had, I'vebeen in a yoga community.
Um, where man, you felt a little pressure,uh, to keep up and to do all the things.
Mm-hmm.
And I didn't feel that.
Within thyroid strong.
(14:35):
And I enjoyed, I mean, Iasked you all the questions,
EMILY (14:39):
um, and I loved answering them.
I love, I love whenpeople an ask questions.
I wish people would ask more questions.
BARBIE (14:47):
Well, I don't have a problem asking questions.
If I didn't ask questions atwork, I'd never get anything done.
So it's carried overinto my personal life.
EMILY (14:57):
Yeah.
Yeah.
Um, And have you noticed, um, changesin energy in the Menno pot as you
classic classically described it?
Uh, I, I'm curious if there areany changes in thyroid labs.
Some, most times there's not, butsometimes I have had a couple women,
(15:19):
um, have a change in Throid labs, butI'm just curious for me, I've not really
BARBIE (15:24):
had my thyroid labs checked.
Since I, since I, I mean, right at thebeginning is when my appointment was.
Yeah.
So February I got my thyroid labs.
Yeah.
I've not had my thyroid labs checked.
I think it was like March.
I think I, my appointment was in March,so that's when they run my thyroid labs.
But, um, I was one of the weird,weird patients that, um, my
(15:44):
t s h never was really high.
Um, I'm a bad converter.
Um, so I, that's how mine wascaught, um, with bad allergies.
And I went to, I went to an allergistthat was also an, um, immunologist and
which kind of a weird combination, but,um, he caught it actually from the little
(16:08):
white spots on my arms, which I don'teven remember what that was called.
But, um, He saw those on my arms andsaid, we can test you for allergies,
but I'm 95% sure it's your thyroid.
Thyroid.
So if it hadn't been for him, Iprobably never would've gotten caught.
EMILY (16:24):
Wow.
Smart.
Yeah, I know.
Integrative.
I love it.
I know.
Um, have you had any changes in energy?
Changes in Yes.
Injuries?
BARBIE (16:36):
Yes.
Um, I go, I go to the chiropractorabout once every week.
Once every four weeks tofive, six weeks timeframe.
Yeah.
Um, I have, my pelvis is bad to twist.
Um, like up to making one legabout half a half inch shorter
than the other one on the regular.
(16:58):
Yeah.
You know, from chiropracticvisits, chiropractic visit.
Um, my publish does notseem to be shifting as badly
EMILY (17:05):
now.
I love that.
So more stability around the pelvis?
Yeah, like every, how annoying is itevery time you go to the chiropractor,
like, well, this one leg still aninch short and you're like, again.
But it's nice to seea change that Exactly.
BARBIE (17:17):
Yes.
Um, my low back does nothurt near like it did great.
Um, it, it's still tweaky cuz Isit, I have, I'm a desk jockey.
Yep.
So, um, That, that, I mean, I think I'mprobably always gonna have that, but I'm
hoping as I lift more, that will, um, thatwill kind of resolve itself even more.
(17:39):
Um, my shoulder, it's not awesome, butI don't have as, I don't have as much, I
have that neck, shoulder chain thing thatgoes on and, um, it's not been as bad.
I've, I've worked on my, my,uh, what they call that tech.
EMILY (17:57):
Oh yeah, the chin
BARBIE (17:58):
retraction.
And yes, I've been working on that forabout 10 years with my chiropractor,
and I feel like, I feel like lifting,um, is making me more, more aware of my
alignment, even more so than yoga did.
Um, and I, I attribute that toyour little dead bug in the warmup.
Oh yeah.
(18:19):
Um, I'll do, I'll just, I lay onthe floor a lot with my dog and
I'll just, Pop that up and, youknow, roll out the neck and love it.
And um, so I use that move a lot.
Even, even if I'm notwarming up or getting ready
EMILY (18:33):
to lift.
Yeah.
Do you find that doing so in the programyou do like a heavy carry where like, I.
The bells are down to your sidesand it's kind of engaging your lats.
Have you found, cuz I know when I dothat, sometimes I'll do that like once an
hour at my desk just to kind of uprightthe posture because I find that this
like chin retraction thing, I alwaysfeel like I'm like choking my thyroid.
(18:56):
But if I a heavy carry to even
BARBIE (18:58):
feel like you're choking.
Yeah.
When you get the neck back to where it's
EMILY (19:02):
supposed to be.
But I find that instead of focusingon the neck, if you focus on kind of
like the pillar of support under theneck, which is like your core in your
shoulder stability, shoulder stability.
If you do a heavy carry andthen you let the bells go.
Like you're, you're upright.
Like you don't have to push your chinin because you've lifted the posture.
(19:23):
Ah, yeah.
So I have
BARBIE (19:24):
not tried that, but I'll, yeah.
I may have to bring
EMILY (19:27):
some weights to work.
Yeah.
I have a, like a 12 kilo at my desk.
Just do a little reset every hour.
Otherwise I would be a hunchback.
Um,
BARBIE (19:36):
uh, exactly.
That's another thing I want to avoid.
I don't, I do not want tobe the little old lady with
EMILY (19:41):
the hunchback.
Yeah.
And osteoporosis because of the lack of.
Bone density and you can have ahigher propensity to, um, compression
fractures of the body of the vertebra.
A lot of those women will belike hunchback because the
compression of the vertebra.
So you definitely don't want that.
No.
Um, let's talk about the shoulder thingbecause instead of like, you know, kind
(20:03):
of like pushing away the, the elephantin the room when we lift a weight.
Even professionals, even if youworked with one-on-one with a
trainer, injury is possible.
Just like you hear peoplelike, oh, I went to pick up a
pencil and I threw my back out.
Right.
So in the beginning of the program, um,your shoulder was not feeling great,
and it was the one that had the frozenshoulder, so had a history of discomfort.
(20:29):
Um, what was the move where you'relike, Ooh, this doesn't feel good.
And then it was, howdid we work through it?
BARBIE (20:37):
It was actually the very first week of, of using weights,
um, when we were on the floor.
The, the
EMILY (20:45):
press.
Yeah, the floor press onthe floor press, yeah.
BARBIE (20:48):
Yeah.
Yeah.
Um, I tweaked it then and so,um, you helped me through it.
Um, my chiropractor helped me through it.
Um, you and my chiropractorhave worked through the same
training, so that was awesome.
Um, so, you know, the feet on thefloor engaged the core, press the back.
Yeah.
And use your, use your trunk,
EMILY (21:09):
not just your arm.
Yeah, because I think commonly so if for,just to give women a visual who haven't
done a floor press, you're on your back.
Like you said, knees are bent, feet onthe floor and you are holding a weight
in one hand up towards the sky, and thenyou kind of bring your elbow down, tap
it to the floor or push and what you,as you're bringing the weight down.
(21:31):
Sometimes what can happen is likeour ribs will shift or will get like
wiggly and our core isn't engagedand it can then kind of like.
Tweak the shoulder.
Sometimes the bicep tendon,sometimes a rotator cuff, and
there's a way to modify it.
You could tap your elbow to a yogablock, not go all the way down to the
floor, but like really making sureyour, like ribs are, the fronts of
your ribs are like locked down andyou're breathing, embracing properly.
(21:56):
Um, and so I think.
The, the, the reason I wanna mentionthis is because a lot of women, if they
tweak anything, will be like, I'm done.
I'm outta here.
Like, I wanna refund.
I'm overweight lifting, I'mgoing back to my Iyengar yoga.
I can't
BARBIE (22:13):
You get that?
I can't do it.
EMILY (22:14):
Mindset.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But you persevered.
Yes.
BARBIE (22:18):
Right, because I'm, I'm stubborn.
I was, I'm a
EMILY (22:22):
Taurus.
I'm stubborn.
I'm a Capricorn, so
BARBIE (22:27):
we
EMILY (22:27):
DeLong in.
Yeah.
But, um, was there anything, I mean,obviously you worked with the chiropractor
in person and we touched base, um,which is always nice to kind of like.
Get feedback and to ask lots of questions.
And I love questions cuzyou know I put the video up.
Yeah, you put the video up andyou know, I'm sure every single
woman in that group is like, oh,I learned something new from that.
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But I think it's important for womento not shy away from soreness, to
not shy away from like maybe tweakingsomething and just throw everything out.
That there's always a modification.
To like regress, to make iteasier to modify, to also
make it harder i's no shame.
(23:09):
Yeah.
There's no shame.
Shame than that.
Yeah.
Cause I think sometimes when peopleinjure themselves it creates this
like fight or flight response wherethey're like, freeze or you know,
they're scared to go back to it.
But I think what theimportant thing is that you.
Kept with it.
You persevered, you kept going,and now you love deadlifts.
So I do.
(23:31):
And you don't have as much backpain and the shoulder intensity
and frequency isn't as much.
So all of those things, I thinkin, in a dream world, we would
want our workout or rehab to just,we have zero pain the next day.
Right.
But really it's like what?
If you're tracking, okay, today my neckpain's an eight outta 10, and you go
(23:52):
through the weeks, you're like, oh, wellnow my pain is like a three outta 10.
Like, that's a win.
That's over 50% reduction in symptoms.
Sometimes I think peopleare like, I want zero.
Like I wanna just be superhuman.
And it's like it takes work and timeto become superhuman and to thrive.
Well,
BARBIE (24:11):
and and you've also, you know, you're, you're giving
up 30 minutes of your life.
A day or a workout.
I mean, it's not like I had todrive to the gym because I did
invest in some kettle bells andI didn't buy the expensive ones.
I mean, I went toWalmart for my first two.
Yeah, they didn't have two of thesame size, so I bought two different
(24:31):
sizes and I made it work Perfect.
And then, you know, the nextsize up, I got off of Amazon.
So it's, it's not like I have a great bigcollection, but, um, I'll probably add to
EMILY (24:45):
add to it, you have a 16 kilo I do now, which is 35
BARBIE (24:48):
pounds.
Yes.
That was the one I got off of Amazon.
And now I have the, what isthe 50, what is the 50 pound?
I get my kilos
EMILY (24:57):
and pounds.
Oh.
Uh, it's like 24 kilos I think.
Yeah,
BARBIE (25:00):
I have, I have, uh, I have that one as my, that's my
EMILY (25:04):
goal weight.
Awesome.
I love it.
Um, what would you tell thewoman who's like on the fence?
They're like, I don't know about this.
BARBIE (25:12):
I say, do it.
I, uh, I have no regrets at all.
Um, once I get thyroid strongpaid off, because I went the
credit card route because.
I didn't w I didn't wanna wwishy wash until the next round.
I wanted to do it ne, you know, right now.
Yeah.
So once I get that paid off, I'm going for
EMILY (25:33):
stay strong.
Awesome.
So stay strong.
For women who don't know is the membershipand it's just a continuation videos.
Guest experts withfunctional medicine talks.
Um, And there's payment plans.
There's, you could pay in full.
There's a three pay.
There's bonuses inside function insidethyroid strong with these talks,
with functional medicine doctors.
(25:53):
Some women never even watch them.
Um, I was curious, did you watch them?
Did you,
BARBIE (25:58):
did I watched.
Um, I did, I watched the ones that you didwhile we were going through the program.
Oh, cool.
Yeah, but I have not, I've notmanaged to go backwards Yeah.
Yet, but I have a couple otherprograms going on at the same
time, so, Um, but I do, I listen to
EMILY (26:15):
the podcast.
Oh, thank you.
Awesome.
Um, well, Barbie, thank you so much.
I know it's Friday before Memorial Day.
You probably wanna get home, butthank you so much for sharing your
story, your journey, just likeyour honesty and your authenticity.
I really love it.
So thank you.
Well thank you for thyroid strong.
Ah, yeah, I mean I feel likethere was a need that needed to
(26:38):
get filled cuz no one's talkingabout strength and Hashimotos.
And I think just going on my ownjourney and helping women in the
clinic and, um, people reaching outthat were outside New York and I was
like, well you could come to the clinicin New York or let's make a program.
So
BARBIE (26:54):
yeah.
I'm glad you made the program.
Yeah, thanks Barbie.
I think it's going to, um, help.
Me more and more to stabilize the,the weird, the weird things in my
EMILY (27:05):
body.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I mean, that's the hope, right?
I mean, I was on the same journey,like I was a yoga instructor.
I taught yoga.
I went to yoga, traveled the world, likewent to Greece and Costa Rica and yoga
retreats, and I was like, I feel terrible.
Like why am I, why?
Why does this happen?
Like my back hurts my.
Groin, like one hip feltpinched all the time.
(27:26):
And I was like, I can't be achiropractor who's in pain all the time.
This is like not a good, agood business card right here.
Um, and I
BARBIE (27:33):
think we had one, we had one instructor in our small community who
really focused on, I, I don't know whather style was, but it was kick your butt.
Yoga.
Mm-hmm.
I mean, it, it, she was a flow and.
But she put in lots of core, she was arunner, so she was working herself on the
(27:56):
things that, you know, a, a runner needs.
Yeah.
Which was helping me.
Um, I was pro, I was in the bestphysical shape of my life when
I was going to her yoga classes.
Wow.
Um, but she quit teaching yogato focus on distance running.
And so I went back to otherstyles of yoga that didn't, that
(28:18):
wasn't that strength focused.
Yeah, and that's when Istarted with the injury.
I mean, I would tweakthat shoulder in chatter.
I would mm-hmm.
Have problems with the low back.
And so I knew in my mind inthere, there was a niggle.
That's when the niggle started, thatI needed more strength in my life.
EMILY (28:39):
Yeah.
What a great self-observation, right?
How many people can like, tie thosetwo things together from like,
what they're physically doing tohow they're feeling in their body?
Um, I, I'm gonna tell you a quick story.
I had a hamstring injury on my left,and it was the leg that I could do the
splits and I could go deeper in triangle.
(29:01):
And, you know, the ego pushes andwe're like, oh, that's a good side.
Mm-hmm.
We'll just go deeper.
And I would get.
A, um, like a massage technique calledactive release technique every week.
A lot of chiropractors doit for a year and a half.
And I was like, okay, thisis like, this is what it is.
And, um, did not get better.
(29:22):
And it was like $200 a session andI was like, this is, this is insane.
And I did two weeks of strength trainingand it totally like the pain went away and
it was because the muscle was lengthenedand weak and needed to get that strength.
So, I think for a lot of women, ifwhatever you're doing is not working,
don't keep beating the dead horse.
(29:43):
Like try something different and pivot.
So yeah, this is, this is my pivot.
This is a pivot.
Um, Barbie, this is good.
Thank you so much.
Um, it was so wonderful to have youon and have a wonderful weekend.
Thank you.
You too.
Thank you.
What's up?
Lovely ladies, Dr.
Emily Kiberd here.
I wanted to jump in here really quick.
I have a very specialguest on Barbie Beavers.
She is one of the past thyroid strongmembers and she had amazing results
with, weight loss and boostingher energy and joints feeling
stable and feeling really strong.
Her whole goal was to.
(00:20):
Avoid osteoporosis, whichher grandmother had.
And I wanted to share this becausewe have a very special sale going
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And if you are interested in joiningThyroid Strong this next round,
there are amazing bonuses with guestexperts, different functional medicine
(00:44):
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Um, how to understand yourmedication better with Hashimotos.
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(01:05):
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(01:26):
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EMILY (01:47):
barbie Beavers, welcome to Thyroid Strong Podcasts.
I'm excited to have you here.
You are one of the women who joinedThyroid Strong, one of the many
women, and got amazing results andhas really changed how you're working
out and how you move your body.
So welcome.
I'm excited to have you here.
Thank you.
I'm excited to be here.
(02:08):
Yeah.
So you have Hashimotos?
Yes, I do.
And what were some of your symptomsor what are some of your symptoms
currently?
Um, well I have Hashimotosand on, um, menopausal.
So I have, um, I was havinglow energy weight gain.
(02:28):
Weight gain, then
pot, um, double whammy.
BARBIE (02:33):
Yeah.
So, um, those were the two main reasons.
Um, and then my, mygrandmother had osteoporosis.
Um, she had broke her first hip when I wasstill in, like freshman in high school.
Um, and then she broke the otherhip, um, once I, I had graduated high
(02:54):
school, so I mean, it, they weren't.
Real close together, but theyweren't real far apart either.
EMILY (02:59):
How old was she?
Do you know?
BARBIE (03:01):
Um, I don't know.
Um, she was 91, 92 when she died,so it, it had been like 30, 40 years
before, so she couldn't have been,but you know, maybe early sixties.
Yeah.
That's,
EMILY (03:16):
so she broke her first hip young.
BARBIE (03:18):
Yeah.
And they think that she wasjust walking and the joint gave
out, so, um, she apparently hadosteoporosis pretty bad, and I don't
EMILY (03:27):
want it.
No one wants that, plus no.
Once you break a hip, thedecline, I'm sure, as you
probably observed, is very quick.
BARBIE (03:36):
Yes.
Hers did not set right,um, on the first go around.
And so she had a hard time getting around.
Yeah, so then she was less active.
Um, got heavy, ended up withdiabetes, you know, the whole thing
as you, as you become less mobile.
So, um, yeah.
Uh, if I'm, I'm, I look like her, so I'mhoping I have a good long life like her.
(03:59):
Yeah.
And, um, So I want, and whenI'm 93, I wanna be going
EMILY (04:04):
strong.
Yeah.
And one of the best ways, and evenconventional medicine recommends
us, is to increase your bonedensity by lifting weights.
Yeah.
Which I was afraid of.
It's scary, right?
Like if you've never done it before,like when do we learn to lift weights?
BARBIE (04:20):
Uh, never.
Never.
And you know, I'm 51.
So even back then, you know,athletes today are taught,
you know, where their core is.
And back when I was in school, nobodyever taught us how to engage our core.
Yeah.
So, you know, I was playingsoftball, I was cheerleading, um,
(04:42):
and, and none of those sports.
Did anybody ever teach youwhere your core was and
how
EMILY (04:46):
to use it?
Yeah.
I think in an ideal world it wouldbe part of the physical education.
Right?
Just like, mm-hmm.
Yeah.
Kids kind of like run the, themile, the president's mile.
Yeah.
They would also learn how to engagethe core, how to breathe properly,
how to brace properly, which wetalk about in thyroid strong.
How are you working outbefore you joined thyroid?
Strong yoga.
(05:07):
Yoga.
Yoga.
Yoga.
Okay.
Any particular flavor of yoga?
BARBIE (05:11):
Um, I prefer Iyengar if I can get it.
Um, but if I can't, thenI'll do, I'll do whatever.
EMILY (05:19):
Yeah.
Yeah.
Did you have any injuries whileyou, during your yoga practice?
BARBIE (05:24):
Yes.
Um, uh, when I first startedyoga, I, I popped ribs a lot.
Mm-hmm.
Um, I would have ribs dislocate a lot,um, and then my low back and, um, I've
always had tight shoulders and I washoping that yoga would help with the
(05:45):
tight shoulders, but, and it did it,I mean, I can't say that it didn't,
but I still have limited mobility in
EMILY (05:52):
my shoulders.
Yeah.
Do you think, did you ever correlatelike some of the low back pain or
si joint pain to like overstretchinghamstrings, the back to your legs at all?
Did you ever notice?
No.
No.
I did
not
BARBIE (06:03):
correlate that at the time I do now.
Oh, I love it.
I also, um, I also have a littlehypermobility in my low back
according to my chiropractor.
Mm-hmm.
Um, and, and ev forward folds arejust like, I could stay in a forward
fold, especially a wide-leggedstanding forward fold all day.
(06:25):
Mm-hmm.
And you know, that's reallynot what I should be doing for.
My particular
EMILY (06:31):
body.
Yeah.
So for listeners who don'tknow, this correlation of
low back pain and hamstrings.
When we overstretch our hamstrings,which are the le the muscle in
the back of our legs, um, when weoverstretch them, they insert into our
pelvis and they're kind of like ouranchors that hold our pelvis in place.
So when we overstretch them, Wecan then get this kind of like sway
(06:55):
back or banana back where a pelvisjust kind of dumps forward cuz
there's nothing anchoring them down.
So, um, And oftentimes when people havetight hamstrings, so kind of the opposite
end, like people are like, oh, I gottastretch, I gotta stretch my hamstrings.
They oftentimes will have a weakcore and if you address the core,
the hamstring tightness will let gocuz the body is stabilizing properly.
(07:20):
Um, so you joined thyroid Strong.
Which was probably a littlebit of a leap because it sounds
like weightlifting was scary.
It was a big leap.
What kinda like, what was like, you'relike, okay, I'm gonna make the leap.
What was that feeling inside of youor what kind of pushed you to do it?
BARBIE (07:38):
Well, I, I don't, I, I, I've been wanting to lift weights
for, I don't know, probably, Idunno, maybe even longest 10 years.
Um, weightlifting and boxing wastwo of the things though on my.
Um, I wanna a learn list.
Yeah.
I still haven't learned a box, but, um,I just, I didn't feel comfortable with
(07:59):
any of, I mean, we live in very smallareas, so there's not a lot of opportunity
for working one-on-one with trainersand trainers that I had in my area.
They scared me.
Um, why so I, I know I have a limit.
Um, I don't have a lot of energy reserved.
Mm-hmm.
And I mean, it was like CrossFit and.
(08:22):
Um, I tried hot yoga onceand it about killed me, uh,
come out of their, um, tank.
I mean, I did, I wasn'ttrying hot yoga on purpose.
It just happened.
I went to a class and itturned out to be hot yoga.
Um,
EMILY (08:34):
that's the worst.
You're like, I didn't knowit was gonna be like this.
BARBIE (08:38):
I know.
I didn't, I was not properlyprepared with a towel for my
yoga mat, so I didn't face plant.
Yeah.
In my own sweat.
Um, so I come outta there like, uh, youknow, just trash for a couple of days.
So I did not want, I was just a numberone, I was afraid I had bulged a disc,
(09:00):
um, at work, bending, lifting andtwisting, which, you know, that's a no-no.
And I just, I was notthinking, I was feeling really
strong that day, apparently.
Um, And then, so I tweaked my backand then I kept forward folding,
and then during a forward fold,because the forward fold felt good.
(09:20):
Um, I popped that I bulged that disc.
So I had that going on.
Um, I mean, I get the weird injuries.
Um, I fell on my tailbone, um,kicking the soccer ball for my dog.
On a icy surface.
Oh, uh, I know I fell off my horse whenI was 17 on that same, on the same side
(09:43):
that I, that I hit that time, which is thesame side that I bulged the disc and then
I was dropped on my head in cheerleading
EMILY (09:50):
practice.
So lots of bingers.
And you've had frozen shoulder syndrome,
BARBIE (09:56):
right?
I have had frozen shoulder in highschool, which is kind of unusual
to, for you to be that young.
Yeah.
Um, but I'm pretty sure that probablycame from, uh, softball and I also in
high school, which makes me think thatI probably should have been diagnosed
with Hashimoto's like way back.
I mean it, I was probably in mythirties before I was diagnosed.
(10:18):
Um, I tore a ligamentin the arch of my foot.
Um, and nobody could, wereally never figured out how.
I was sitting in therecliner watching a movie.
I get up out of the recliner andthe ball of my foot goes squish.
So I had tore it enough thatit bled into the ball of
EMILY (10:34):
my foot.
Wow.
So for women who don't know, andthere's actually research paper on
this, they took women with known frozenshoulder symptoms, women and men, and
they measured their thyroid labs and.
Almost all of them had elevated T s H.
So that hypothyroid componentoftentimes can lead to or go hand
(10:56):
in hand with frozen shoulder.
And when you hear of injuries thatkind of come outta nowhere, like
stepping off a recliner isn't.
Right, like a big move.
Or you hear about injuries that areoveruse injuries, like you have an
injury and you just keep going to pt andnext thing you know, like a year later
(11:16):
you're still going to physical therapy.
If you haven't been diagnosedwith hypothyroidism, you wanna
double check like your clinician.
In an ideal world, your physical therapistwould be like, Hey, I noticed you're not
getting better on the normal timeline.
Ideally, maybe you could reach out to yourprimary care to check your thyroid labs,
cuz hypothyroidism and unresolved overuseinjuries can often go hand in hand.
(11:39):
So what was your experienceinside thyroid Strong?
I,
BARBIE (11:45):
I was having, I was struggling with overhead press.
Um, which I have now, thankfully.
And, um, on that shoulder that hadbeen frozen, that is, it's tweaky.
Um, but you, you helped me through that.
Yeah.
And it did not, it did not putme off of trying the rest of it.
Cause girl, deadlifts
EMILY (12:04):
fun.
I know.
So good, right?
BARBIE (12:07):
It is good.
Yeah.
Okay.
So I have found, I have foundthat I, I like heavy, um, So I,
I'm really surprised about that.
I mean, I've toed around feet sacks,feet backs are 50 pounds, um, for years.
But they, they wiggle,um, kind of like a kid.
(12:27):
And so when you have a solid, I mean,and I struggled, but when you have
that solid weight to lift and, and it.
You know, it's not going anywhere.
Um, it's, it's a lot more fun.
And when you know how to brace and howto stack and how to get yourself, um,
(12:48):
in the right position, that it doesn'tmake your back feel tweaky, then it's
EMILY (12:54):
all great.
Yeah.
Yeah.
The form and is so important to preventinjury and then learning how to.
Make your core strong, right?
Because when are we told that?
Like how many times have you beenin an exercise class and they're
like, engage your core, andyou're like, am I doing it right?
How about now?
Is this like, like, it's suchan ethereal phrase, right?
(13:16):
Like what does that mean?
Yeah.
Uh, but we keep exactly likeliterally step by step how to
do it inside Throid strong.
Um, what were some, other thandeadlifting, what were some of your
favorite things about the program?
Um,
BARBIE (13:29):
I like the way you start slow.
Um, I love the rehab videos.
Ooh, I didn't know that.
Yes, yes.
I like the rehab videos.
Um, I like the, um,
I don't, just the structureof having, you know, you do,
(13:50):
you do it three times a week.
You take your rest days, youtake that extra rest day.
I had to, I had to wigglethat around a little bit.
Um, sometimes, like I would do twodays, fill a little down, take the
extra rest day in the middle, andso I like completely trashed your
calendar.
EMILY (14:09):
But I got That's ok.
You can make it your own.
That's the whole pointI got to it in the end.
BARBIE (14:14):
I think I was a week behind by the time I finished, but I finished
and I just didn't feel the pressure.
I mean, I've had, I'vebeen in a yoga community.
Um, where man, you felt a little pressure,uh, to keep up and to do all the things.
Mm-hmm.
And I didn't feel that.
Within thyroid strong.
(14:35):
And I enjoyed, I mean, Iasked you all the questions,
EMILY (14:39):
um, and I loved answering them.
I love, I love whenpeople an ask questions.
I wish people would ask more questions.
BARBIE (14:47):
Well, I don't have a problem asking questions.
If I didn't ask questions atwork, I'd never get anything done.
So it's carried overinto my personal life.
EMILY (14:57):
Yeah.
Yeah.
Um, And have you noticed, um, changesin energy in the Menno pot as you
classic classically described it?
Uh, I, I'm curious if there areany changes in thyroid labs.
Some, most times there's not, butsometimes I have had a couple women,
(15:19):
um, have a change in Throid labs, butI'm just curious for me, I've not really
BARBIE (15:24):
had my thyroid labs checked.
Since I, since I, I mean, right at thebeginning is when my appointment was.
Yeah.
So February I got my thyroid labs.
Yeah.
I've not had my thyroid labs checked.
I think it was like March.
I think I, my appointment was in March,so that's when they run my thyroid labs.
But, um, I was one of the weird,weird patients that, um, my
(15:44):
t s h never was really high.
Um, I'm a bad converter.
Um, so I, that's how mine wascaught, um, with bad allergies.
And I went to, I went to an allergistthat was also an, um, immunologist and
which kind of a weird combination, but,um, he caught it actually from the little
(16:08):
white spots on my arms, which I don'teven remember what that was called.
But, um, He saw those on my arms andsaid, we can test you for allergies,
but I'm 95% sure it's your thyroid.
Thyroid.
So if it hadn't been for him, Iprobably never would've gotten caught.
EMILY (16:24):
Wow.
Smart.
Yeah, I know.
Integrative.
I love it.
I know.
Um, have you had any changes in energy?
Changes in Yes.
Injuries?
BARBIE (16:36):
Yes.
Um, I go, I go to the chiropractorabout once every week.
Once every four weeks tofive, six weeks timeframe.
Yeah.
Um, I have, my pelvis is bad to twist.
Um, like up to making one legabout half a half inch shorter
than the other one on the regular.
(16:58):
Yeah.
You know, from chiropracticvisits, chiropractic visit.
Um, my publish does notseem to be shifting as badly
EMILY (17:05):
now.
I love that.
So more stability around the pelvis?
Yeah, like every, how annoying is itevery time you go to the chiropractor,
like, well, this one leg still aninch short and you're like, again.
But it's nice to seea change that Exactly.
BARBIE (17:17):
Yes.
Um, my low back does nothurt near like it did great.
Um, it, it's still tweaky cuz Isit, I have, I'm a desk jockey.
Yep.
So, um, That, that, I mean, I think I'mprobably always gonna have that, but I'm
hoping as I lift more, that will, um, thatwill kind of resolve itself even more.
(17:39):
Um, my shoulder, it's not awesome, butI don't have as, I don't have as much, I
have that neck, shoulder chain thing thatgoes on and, um, it's not been as bad.
I've, I've worked on my, my,uh, what they call that tech.
EMILY (17:57):
Oh yeah, the chin
BARBIE (17:58):
retraction.
And yes, I've been working on that forabout 10 years with my chiropractor,
and I feel like, I feel like lifting,um, is making me more, more aware of my
alignment, even more so than yoga did.
Um, and I, I attribute that toyour little dead bug in the warmup.
Oh yeah.
(18:19):
Um, I'll do, I'll just, I lay onthe floor a lot with my dog and
I'll just, Pop that up and, youknow, roll out the neck and love it.
And um, so I use that move a lot.
Even, even if I'm notwarming up or getting ready
EMILY (18:33):
to lift.
Yeah.
Do you find that doing so in the programyou do like a heavy carry where like, I.
The bells are down to your sidesand it's kind of engaging your lats.
Have you found, cuz I know when I dothat, sometimes I'll do that like once an
hour at my desk just to kind of uprightthe posture because I find that this
like chin retraction thing, I alwaysfeel like I'm like choking my thyroid.
(18:56):
But if I a heavy carry to even
BARBIE (18:58):
feel like you're choking.
Yeah.
When you get the neck back to where it's
EMILY (19:02):
supposed to be.
But I find that instead of focusingon the neck, if you focus on kind of
like the pillar of support under theneck, which is like your core in your
shoulder stability, shoulder stability.
If you do a heavy carry andthen you let the bells go.
Like you're, you're upright.
Like you don't have to push your chinin because you've lifted the posture.
(19:23):
Ah, yeah.
So I have
BARBIE (19:24):
not tried that, but I'll, yeah.
I may have to bring
EMILY (19:27):
some weights to work.
Yeah.
I have a, like a 12 kilo at my desk.
Just do a little reset every hour.
Otherwise I would be a hunchback.
Um,
BARBIE (19:36):
uh, exactly.
That's another thing I want to avoid.
I don't, I do not want tobe the little old lady with
EMILY (19:41):
the hunchback.
Yeah.
And osteoporosis because of the lack of.
Bone density and you can have ahigher propensity to, um, compression
fractures of the body of the vertebra.
A lot of those women will belike hunchback because the
compression of the vertebra.
So you definitely don't want that.
No.
Um, let's talk about the shoulder thingbecause instead of like, you know, kind
(20:03):
of like pushing away the, the elephantin the room when we lift a weight.
Even professionals, even if youworked with one-on-one with a
trainer, injury is possible.
Just like you hear peoplelike, oh, I went to pick up a
pencil and I threw my back out.
Right.
So in the beginning of the program, um,your shoulder was not feeling great,
and it was the one that had the frozenshoulder, so had a history of discomfort.
(20:29):
Um, what was the move where you'relike, Ooh, this doesn't feel good.
And then it was, howdid we work through it?
BARBIE (20:37):
It was actually the very first week of, of using weights,
um, when we were on the floor.
The, the
EMILY (20:45):
press.
Yeah, the floor press onthe floor press, yeah.
BARBIE (20:48):
Yeah.
Yeah.
Um, I tweaked it then and so,um, you helped me through it.
Um, my chiropractor helped me through it.
Um, you and my chiropractorhave worked through the same
training, so that was awesome.
Um, so, you know, the feet on thefloor engaged the core, press the back.
Yeah.
And use your, use your trunk,
EMILY (21:09):
not just your arm.
Yeah, because I think commonly so if for,just to give women a visual who haven't
done a floor press, you're on your back.
Like you said, knees are bent, feet onthe floor and you are holding a weight
in one hand up towards the sky, and thenyou kind of bring your elbow down, tap
it to the floor or push and what you,as you're bringing the weight down.
(21:31):
Sometimes what can happen is likeour ribs will shift or will get like
wiggly and our core isn't engagedand it can then kind of like.
Tweak the shoulder.
Sometimes the bicep tendon,sometimes a rotator cuff, and
there's a way to modify it.
You could tap your elbow to a yogablock, not go all the way down to the
floor, but like really making sureyour, like ribs are, the fronts of
your ribs are like locked down andyou're breathing, embracing properly.
(21:56):
Um, and so I think.
The, the, the reason I wanna mentionthis is because a lot of women, if they
tweak anything, will be like, I'm done.
I'm outta here.
Like, I wanna refund.
I'm overweight lifting, I'mgoing back to my Iyengar yoga.
I can't
BARBIE (22:13):
You get that?
I can't do it.
EMILY (22:14):
Mindset.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But you persevered.
Yes.
BARBIE (22:18):
Right, because I'm, I'm stubborn.
I was, I'm a
EMILY (22:22):
Taurus.
I'm stubborn.
I'm a Capricorn, so
BARBIE (22:27):
we
EMILY (22:27):
DeLong in.
Yeah.
But, um, was there anything, I mean,obviously you worked with the chiropractor
in person and we touched base, um,which is always nice to kind of like.
Get feedback and to ask lots of questions.
And I love questions cuzyou know I put the video up.
Yeah, you put the video up andyou know, I'm sure every single
woman in that group is like, oh,I learned something new from that.
(22:49):
But I think it's important for womento not shy away from soreness, to
not shy away from like maybe tweakingsomething and just throw everything out.
That there's always a modification.
To like regress, to make iteasier to modify, to also
make it harder i's no shame.
(23:09):
Yeah.
There's no shame.
Shame than that.
Yeah.
Cause I think sometimes when peopleinjure themselves it creates this
like fight or flight response wherethey're like, freeze or you know,
they're scared to go back to it.
But I think what theimportant thing is that you.
Kept with it.
You persevered, you kept going,and now you love deadlifts.
So I do.
(23:31):
And you don't have as much backpain and the shoulder intensity
and frequency isn't as much.
So all of those things, I thinkin, in a dream world, we would
want our workout or rehab to just,we have zero pain the next day.
Right.
But really it's like what?
If you're tracking, okay, today my neckpain's an eight outta 10, and you go
(23:52):
through the weeks, you're like, oh, wellnow my pain is like a three outta 10.
Like, that's a win.
That's over 50% reduction in symptoms.
Sometimes I think peopleare like, I want zero.
Like I wanna just be superhuman.
And it's like it takes work and timeto become superhuman and to thrive.
Well,
BARBIE (24:11):
and and you've also, you know, you're, you're giving
up 30 minutes of your life.
A day or a workout.
I mean, it's not like I had todrive to the gym because I did
invest in some kettle bells andI didn't buy the expensive ones.
I mean, I went toWalmart for my first two.
Yeah, they didn't have two of thesame size, so I bought two different
(24:31):
sizes and I made it work Perfect.
And then, you know, the nextsize up, I got off of Amazon.
So it's, it's not like I have a great bigcollection, but, um, I'll probably add to
EMILY (24:45):
add to it, you have a 16 kilo I do now, which is 35
BARBIE (24:48):
pounds.
Yes.
That was the one I got off of Amazon.
And now I have the, what isthe 50, what is the 50 pound?
I get my kilos
EMILY (24:57):
and pounds.
Oh.
Uh, it's like 24 kilos I think.
Yeah,
BARBIE (25:00):
I have, I have, uh, I have that one as my, that's my
EMILY (25:04):
goal weight.
Awesome.
I love it.
Um, what would you tell thewoman who's like on the fence?
They're like, I don't know about this.
BARBIE (25:12):
I say, do it.
I, uh, I have no regrets at all.
Um, once I get thyroid strongpaid off, because I went the
credit card route because.
I didn't w I didn't wanna wwishy wash until the next round.
I wanted to do it ne, you know, right now.
Yeah.
So once I get that paid off, I'm going for
EMILY (25:33):
stay strong.
Awesome.
So stay strong.
For women who don't know is the membershipand it's just a continuation videos.
Guest experts withfunctional medicine talks.
Um, And there's payment plans.
There's, you could pay in full.
There's a three pay.
There's bonuses inside function insidethyroid strong with these talks,
with functional medicine doctors.
(25:53):
Some women never even watch them.
Um, I was curious, did you watch them?
Did you,
BARBIE (25:58):
did I watched.
Um, I did, I watched the ones that you didwhile we were going through the program.
Oh, cool.
Yeah, but I have not, I've notmanaged to go backwards Yeah.
Yet, but I have a couple otherprograms going on at the same
time, so, Um, but I do, I listen to
EMILY (26:15):
the podcast.
Oh, thank you.
Awesome.
Um, well, Barbie, thank you so much.
I know it's Friday before Memorial Day.
You probably wanna get home, butthank you so much for sharing your
story, your journey, just likeyour honesty and your authenticity.
I really love it.
So thank you.
Well thank you for thyroid strong.
Ah, yeah, I mean I feel likethere was a need that needed to
(26:38):
get filled cuz no one's talkingabout strength and Hashimotos.
And I think just going on my ownjourney and helping women in the
clinic and, um, people reaching outthat were outside New York and I was
like, well you could come to the clinicin New York or let's make a program.
So
BARBIE (26:54):
yeah.
I'm glad you made the program.
Yeah, thanks Barbie.
I think it's going to, um, help.
Me more and more to stabilize the,the weird, the weird things in my
EMILY (27:05):
body.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I mean, that's the hope, right?
I mean, I was on the same journey,like I was a yoga instructor.
I taught yoga.
I went to yoga, traveled the world, likewent to Greece and Costa Rica and yoga
retreats, and I was like, I feel terrible.
Like why am I, why?
Why does this happen?
Like my back hurts my.
Groin, like one hip feltpinched all the time.
(27:26):
And I was like, I can't be achiropractor who's in pain all the time.
This is like not a good, agood business card right here.
Um, and I
BARBIE (27:33):
think we had one, we had one instructor in our small community who
really focused on, I, I don't know whather style was, but it was kick your butt.
Yoga.
Mm-hmm.
I mean, it, it, she was a flow and.
But she put in lots of core, she was arunner, so she was working herself on the
(27:56):
things that, you know, a, a runner needs.
Yeah.
Which was helping me.
Um, I was pro, I was in the bestphysical shape of my life when
I was going to her yoga classes.
Wow.
Um, but she quit teaching yogato focus on distance running.
And so I went back to otherstyles of yoga that didn't, that
(28:18):
wasn't that strength focused.
Yeah, and that's when Istarted with the injury.
I mean, I would tweakthat shoulder in chatter.
I would mm-hmm.
Have problems with the low back.
And so I knew in my mind inthere, there was a niggle.
That's when the niggle started, thatI needed more strength in my life.
EMILY (28:39):
Yeah.
What a great self-observation, right?
How many people can like, tie thosetwo things together from like,
what they're physically doing tohow they're feeling in their body?
Um, I, I'm gonna tell you a quick story.
I had a hamstring injury on my left,and it was the leg that I could do the
splits and I could go deeper in triangle.
(29:01):
And, you know, the ego pushes andwe're like, oh, that's a good side.
Mm-hmm.
We'll just go deeper.
And I would get.
A, um, like a massage technique calledactive release technique every week.
A lot of chiropractors doit for a year and a half.
And I was like, okay, thisis like, this is what it is.
And, um, did not get better.
(29:22):
And it was like $200 a session andI was like, this is, this is insane.
And I did two weeks of strength trainingand it totally like the pain went away and
it was because the muscle was lengthenedand weak and needed to get that strength.
So, I think for a lot of women, ifwhatever you're doing is not working,
don't keep beating the dead horse.
(29:43):
Like try something different and pivot.
So yeah, this is, this is my pivot.
This is a pivot.
Um, Barbie, this is good.
Thank you so much.
Um, it was so wonderful to have youon and have a wonderful weekend.
Thank you.
You too.
Thank you.
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