December 9, 2025 • 7 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Gearing up for the popcorn moment. Brought to you by
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Speaker 2 (00:11):
If it's in those four walls, he or as, Yeah,
we call Bower. That's what we do.
Speaker 1 (00:15):
That's what I'm doing to get myself a bit of
a kitchen refresh. Yeah, we're gonna increase a little bit
of countertop space. We're gonna change that backsplash around these
final steps that we've always wanted to make the kitchen
feel like a part of the home.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
That's what's happening with Bower.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
And if we're talking about the countertop works right to
replace that sink, We're gonna create a look for the
whole place that not only looks good, but also stands
the test of time.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
We're not interested in following the trend.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
We're interested in something that we're gonna be able to
look at five years, ten years from now and say
this is fantastic. And Bower understood us and said, Okay,
here's what we can do to help make that happen.
With Bower Remodeling, it's the best materials, it's the most
skilled craftsmen in Central Indiana. It's the highest quality brand
names you know and trust, and they stand behind their
work with a two year workmanship guarantee Bower Remodeling. They
(01:04):
deliver quality work on time with a service oriented attitude.
They're listening to you, they're making sure they understand you,
and then they're developing a plan so you know what
happens every single time they are there. That way, the
stress is just gone and the results fantastic. Talk to
Boer Remodeling today three one seven eight five two five
five four six. Tell them Tony Kat sent you. Three
(01:26):
one seven eight five two five five four six. Bower
Remodeling eight five two five five four six are online
at Boer b oo h e R Boer Remodeling dot com.
The popcorn moment, let's go, let's go.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
Let's go, let's go. It's a story you need to
hear to believe. Then grab your popcorn because there is more.
Gonna write myself a little note right there.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
Uh, there's a case in front of the Supreme Court
got argued yesterday, and it's really a question about whether
or not the president can fire whomever the president chooses
to fire, which is a weird thing. Why can't the
president fire people because this agency class that we've created,
(02:09):
this pseudo fourth branch of government, which no one should
be in favor of the rules could lead themselves to believe,
lead one to believe that they cannot be replaced by
an executive action, that the president can't simply say you
(02:30):
work for me and you're fired.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
Somehow they are above it all.
Speaker 1 (02:39):
And this goes into looking at a decision from nineteen
thirty five which limited the president's ability to remove somebody
in this agency kind of way in these agency worlds.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
The problem is is that this.
Speaker 1 (03:03):
Decision has been slowly chipped away at bit by bit
and piece by piece. Now is it a possibility that
when it comes to the Federal Trade Commission, which is
the agency in question, the president can fire, but another
agency the president can't. And how is it possible that
(03:23):
a president can't fire at all?
Speaker 2 (03:26):
That's nuts.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
Well, the Court seems somewhat interested in this idea, except
for Katanji Brown Jackson. I have said before and I
will say it again, the Court wants her gone. The
Elena Kagan so to my oarn never mind everybody else.
They know that she's incompetent, She is not smart enough
to be on the Court, while Tony, you're a racist.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
She was never capable Judge Boseburg. Judge Boseberg is as.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
White as powder, and he isn't capable being on the
court either. Neither is Merrick Garland save your race banning
for others. Katanji Brown Jackson is not bright, or at
least not bright in the way that you need to
be to be a Supreme Court.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
Justice and can't do the job.
Speaker 1 (04:18):
This is her argument regarding the idea of we can't
let the president be in charge. We need experts to
be in charge, unelected experts.
Speaker 3 (04:31):
Some issues, some matter, some areas should be handled in
this way by nonpartisan experts. That Congress is saying that
expertise matters with respect to aspects of the economy and
transportation and the various independent.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
Agencies that we have.
Speaker 3 (04:52):
So having a president come in and fire all the
scientists and the doctors and the economists and the pH
and replacing them with loyalists and people who don't know
anything is actually not in the best interest of the
citizens of the United States.
Speaker 1 (05:09):
What do you mean they don't know anything? This is opinion.
What do you mean they don't know anything? Because you
and your friends.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
Think they don't know anything. What is this and why
is it possible?
Speaker 1 (05:21):
Why is it somehow wrong that the duly elected president,
elected by the people who do know something, can't pick
the people that he wants.
Speaker 2 (05:29):
He was elected to make this decision.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
And here's Supreme Court Justice Katanji Brown Jackson saying, well,
it's not good enough because they're not experts the way
I decide someone's an expert.
Speaker 3 (05:40):
These issues should not be in presidential control. So can
you speak to me about the danger of allowing in
these various areas, the president to actually control the Transportation
Board and potentially the Federal Reserve and all these other
independent agencies in these particular areas. We would like to
(06:00):
have independence.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
What are you talking about again?
Speaker 1 (06:06):
They should be agencies that exist with their own budgets
and their own world and never be elected and yet
have unbelievable influence over the United States. What kind of
world do you want to run? Justice Jackson? Now in
moments she's going to get to her world famous. I
don't understand what I'm trying to understand. She's always saying
(06:29):
this in every single case, we.
Speaker 3 (06:32):
Don't want the president controlling I guess what I don't
understand from your overright argument is why that determination of Congress,
which makes perfect sense given its duty to protect the
people of the United States, why that is subjugated to
a concern about the president not being able to control everything.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
What makes us think Congress can pick smart people either?
What is this belief?
Speaker 1 (07:01):
The question before us is can the president fire somebody
from an agency? And I believe the answer is yes.
And I believe that the agencies are not special. And
just like we saw the end of Chevron deference, we
should see a tearing away of the agency class being
able to work with impunity and immunity. There should be.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
A reckoning.
Speaker 1 (07:25):
And the idea and as Justice Kavanaugh brought up, so
you're saying that an agency is an agency forever, and
the people elect a president and a Senate and a House,
and that shouldn't have a change in the policies.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
Tanji Brown Jackson is not worthy of the court.
Speaker 1 (07:43):
Let's just be clear about it and move on with
our day.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
Impeachment needs to come
Gearing up for the popcorn moment. Brought to you by
Bower Remodeling b oo h e R. Bower Remodeling dot com.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
If it's in those four walls, he or as, Yeah,
we call Bower. That's what we do.
Speaker 1 (00:15):
That's what I'm doing to get myself a bit of
a kitchen refresh. Yeah, we're gonna increase a little bit
of countertop space. We're gonna change that backsplash around these
final steps that we've always wanted to make the kitchen
feel like a part of the home.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
That's what's happening with Bower.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
And if we're talking about the countertop works right to
replace that sink, We're gonna create a look for the
whole place that not only looks good, but also stands
the test of time.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
We're not interested in following the trend.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
We're interested in something that we're gonna be able to
look at five years, ten years from now and say
this is fantastic. And Bower understood us and said, Okay,
here's what we can do to help make that happen.
With Bower Remodeling, it's the best materials, it's the most
skilled craftsmen in Central Indiana. It's the highest quality brand
names you know and trust, and they stand behind their
work with a two year workmanship guarantee Bower Remodeling. They
(01:04):
deliver quality work on time with a service oriented attitude.
They're listening to you, they're making sure they understand you,
and then they're developing a plan so you know what
happens every single time they are there. That way, the
stress is just gone and the results fantastic. Talk to
Boer Remodeling today three one seven eight five two five
five four six. Tell them Tony Kat sent you. Three
(01:26):
one seven eight five two five five four six. Bower
Remodeling eight five two five five four six are online
at Boer b oo h e R Boer Remodeling dot com.
The popcorn moment, let's go, let's go.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
Let's go, let's go. It's a story you need to
hear to believe. Then grab your popcorn because there is more.
Gonna write myself a little note right there.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
Uh, there's a case in front of the Supreme Court
got argued yesterday, and it's really a question about whether
or not the president can fire whomever the president chooses
to fire, which is a weird thing. Why can't the
president fire people because this agency class that we've created,
(02:09):
this pseudo fourth branch of government, which no one should
be in favor of the rules could lead themselves to believe,
lead one to believe that they cannot be replaced by
an executive action, that the president can't simply say you
(02:30):
work for me and you're fired.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
Somehow they are above it all.
Speaker 1 (02:39):
And this goes into looking at a decision from nineteen
thirty five which limited the president's ability to remove somebody
in this agency kind of way in these agency worlds.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
The problem is is that this.
Speaker 1 (03:03):
Decision has been slowly chipped away at bit by bit
and piece by piece. Now is it a possibility that
when it comes to the Federal Trade Commission, which is
the agency in question, the president can fire, but another
agency the president can't. And how is it possible that
(03:23):
a president can't fire at all?
Speaker 2 (03:26):
That's nuts.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
Well, the Court seems somewhat interested in this idea, except
for Katanji Brown Jackson. I have said before and I
will say it again, the Court wants her gone. The
Elena Kagan so to my oarn never mind everybody else.
They know that she's incompetent, She is not smart enough
to be on the Court, while Tony, you're a racist.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
She was never capable Judge Boseburg. Judge Boseberg is as.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
White as powder, and he isn't capable being on the
court either. Neither is Merrick Garland save your race banning
for others. Katanji Brown Jackson is not bright, or at
least not bright in the way that you need to
be to be a Supreme Court.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
Justice and can't do the job.
Speaker 1 (04:18):
This is her argument regarding the idea of we can't
let the president be in charge. We need experts to
be in charge, unelected experts.
Speaker 3 (04:31):
Some issues, some matter, some areas should be handled in
this way by nonpartisan experts. That Congress is saying that
expertise matters with respect to aspects of the economy and
transportation and the various independent.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
Agencies that we have.
Speaker 3 (04:52):
So having a president come in and fire all the
scientists and the doctors and the economists and the pH
and replacing them with loyalists and people who don't know
anything is actually not in the best interest of the
citizens of the United States.
Speaker 1 (05:09):
What do you mean they don't know anything? This is opinion.
What do you mean they don't know anything? Because you
and your friends.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
Think they don't know anything. What is this and why
is it possible?
Speaker 1 (05:21):
Why is it somehow wrong that the duly elected president,
elected by the people who do know something, can't pick
the people that he wants.
Speaker 2 (05:29):
He was elected to make this decision.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
And here's Supreme Court Justice Katanji Brown Jackson saying, well,
it's not good enough because they're not experts the way
I decide someone's an expert.
Speaker 3 (05:40):
These issues should not be in presidential control. So can
you speak to me about the danger of allowing in
these various areas, the president to actually control the Transportation
Board and potentially the Federal Reserve and all these other
independent agencies in these particular areas. We would like to
(06:00):
have independence.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
What are you talking about again?
Speaker 1 (06:06):
They should be agencies that exist with their own budgets
and their own world and never be elected and yet
have unbelievable influence over the United States. What kind of
world do you want to run? Justice Jackson? Now in
moments she's going to get to her world famous. I
don't understand what I'm trying to understand. She's always saying
(06:29):
this in every single case, we.
Speaker 3 (06:32):
Don't want the president controlling I guess what I don't
understand from your overright argument is why that determination of Congress,
which makes perfect sense given its duty to protect the
people of the United States, why that is subjugated to
a concern about the president not being able to control everything.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
What makes us think Congress can pick smart people either?
What is this belief?
Speaker 1 (07:01):
The question before us is can the president fire somebody
from an agency? And I believe the answer is yes.
And I believe that the agencies are not special. And
just like we saw the end of Chevron deference, we
should see a tearing away of the agency class being
able to work with impunity and immunity. There should be.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
A reckoning.
Speaker 1 (07:25):
And the idea and as Justice Kavanaugh brought up, so
you're saying that an agency is an agency forever, and
the people elect a president and a Senate and a House,
and that shouldn't have a change in the policies.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
Tanji Brown Jackson is not worthy of the court.
Speaker 1 (07:43):
Let's just be clear about it and move on with
our day.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
Impeachment needs to come
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