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Speaker 1 (00:08):
So the GLP.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
In Indiana took a little road trip to DC and
they met with JD. Vance and they met with White
House folk, and yes, redistricting came up, although they kind
of play it as it was. You know, that wasn't
the main topic of conversation. I think that you have
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to call the special session on redistricting, said it, I
meant it.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
I don't know what these Republicans are going to do.
This has to happen.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
And the conversation about property taxes is the conversation about
property taxes.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
And if you want to vote people out for.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
Not having special sessions about property taxes, you're not going
to hear me say no.
Speaker 1 (00:59):
Go right ahead. We got hosed. They were all on board.
They didn't do the thing. And then try to tell us, no,
this is really better.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
It's not better. No one believes you, no one buys it.
And the numbers don't show that. You don't have the
argument Indiana Republicans, and you never have well that you want.
Speaker 1 (01:18):
To sell us on. This is silly. It's silly.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
Tony Katz, ninety three, WIBC, Good morning, Good to be
with you. The conversation about redistricting has nothing to do
with property taxes. Two different things can be happening, and
we should be having the special session about redistricting to
redistrict Texas redistricted or they're in the process. California wants
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to engage in retribution. Okay, you gotta fight the fire
with the fire. I could have let just Texas do
their thing and left it up to Texans to decide.
And everyone wants to say, well, it's a cherrymander district,
so they're going to not be able to vote, to
vote people out.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
Well, listen to me very carefully. We live in the
real world of politics.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
You want to change the system, change the system, go
about galvanizing the people. Don't tell me that it's not
fair because something else is unfair. Well, you've got these
independent bodies that work on the redistricting that took place
after Democrats engaged in gerrymandering in states like.
Speaker 1 (02:22):
California and Illinois.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
Then you put in these independent bodies that focus on
the giving the proper districts that protect their districts. No, no, no, no,
don't tell me you can't fight politics with politics.
Speaker 1 (02:35):
I'm not buying, I'm not listening. It's a nonsense argument.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
An equally nonsense argument comes from State Representative Charish Prior.
I'm sorry, Representative, this is a nonsense argument. You can't
change the seventh district. It is a minority district.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
First, I don't know what that means.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
Secondly, I believe that what State Representative Cherish Prior is
arguing is that the representative from the seventh district has
to be black. And I want to know from Representative
Prior what happens if the people the seventh district elect
somebody who's white.
Speaker 1 (03:12):
Is that wrong? Is that not allowed? Is that racist?
Speaker 2 (03:15):
Because that's the argument that Representative Democrat Cherish Prior, I
believe it's making. And I invite her on the show
to explain the position. Five microphones and no waiting, no waiting.
What's the argument? What are you trying to say that
redistricting can't happen, because it's going to mean what when
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you change the I live in the fifth district. When
you change the fifth district, am I no longer allowed
to vote? Did things get changed in a way that
prevent people from voting?
Speaker 1 (03:50):
Absolutely not.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
Does gerrymandering change demographics and the possibilities of votes?
Speaker 1 (03:57):
Absolutely?
Speaker 2 (03:59):
Democrat areas versus Republican areas one thousand percent.
Speaker 1 (04:02):
And if you oppose it, that's fine. I get you,
I hear you. I don't think you're wrong. But Texas
did what Texas did.
Speaker 2 (04:11):
California is engaging in retribution, and I believe Indiana has
to fight that. I believe we should fight that. But
if you want to make the argument that if you
change the seventh district you might not elect somebody who's black,
I want to know how that isn't the most bigoted
thing I've heard in a long time. And I want
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to hear that from state Representative Cherish Prior, who's making
this argument. I want to hear this from Democrat Cherish Prior.
So I invite you on the show explain that position, please.
Tony Katz ninety three WIBC.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
Good morning.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
Over there, Frontier Airlines. They've taken over some of the
routes from Spirit. I don't know how Spirit is in
business six months from now. I don't wish them ill.
I just can't see it. They already announced that they're
having the problems. I'm not saying anything out of school here,
not in the slightest. It's just Frontiers adding twenty new
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flights with ties to Spirit Airlines markets.
Speaker 1 (05:14):
That's a takeover.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
Frontier has been trying to buy Spirit and they haven't
been allowed to. Tony Katz ninety three WIBC, Good Morning.
I should say my name is Tony Katz, but it's
the allergies. I'm fine, I feel great. It's just it's
just a voice. It is what it is.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
Everything else is really good.
Speaker 2 (05:35):
The new routes Fort Lauderdale, Florida is the departing area Detroit, Houston, Chicago,
and Charlotte.
Speaker 1 (05:43):
So nothing that I know of that involves Indianapolis. But
this is coming. The end of Spirit is ten coming. Also,
I wanted to get into.
Speaker 2 (06:02):
This story about the flag burning because we shouldn't be
talking past each other on a subject. President Trump an
executive order against flag burning, and I said, can we
please focus on the things that are important. If you
want to talk about respect for the flag, I'm all in.
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If you want to talk about protecting the flag and
people trying to do things to it and you not
allowing that to happen, well people are going to do
what they do and I have no issue with that.
If you want to talk about flying the American flag,
there is no place in America where one cannot fly
the American flag, and anyone who says that the American
flag is triggering should be told to go to you nowhere.
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And you know what, I believe, that's hell in a
hand basket. I don't know why I couldn't just say
that because they're wrong. We fly the American flag anywhere.
We don't fly the gay Pride flag, we don't fly
the Palestinian flag. We fly the American flag in America
any where we choose, any time we choose, and anybody
who has a problem.
Speaker 1 (07:03):
With it, who gives a good holy you know what
now on that one, I'll say, you know what, that's
what we do. But I do not want any.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
Laws regarding burning that it be illegal to burn the
American flag, not a one. I think it's dumb to
burn the American flag. I think it's a good show
of who you don't want in your life if they
burn the American flag. But absolutely not, absolutely not. I
don't like the executive order. President Trump is wasting his
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time on this. The answer I wholeheartedly disagree. I know
some of you push back on me, You're more than
welcome to. I will not stop. However, I don't know
if it was you, producer Carl, somebody else sent me
this from Christopher Rufo. I'm sorry, but as long as
this is the status quo, I'm not going to work
myself into a state of hysteria about Trump's executive order.
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I'm burning the American flag. First of all, never work
yourself up into a state of hysteria. And it's a
story about a guy getting fifteen years in jail for
burning the Pride flag, and how these Washington teenagers are
facing ten years in jail after doing donuts on a
rainbow flag that was painted on the street.
Speaker 1 (08:16):
They did it in East Scooters.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
This is back to the conversation we've been having here
from the beginning. I want to get into how unbelievably
consistent we are ethically. I've opposed hate crimes from the beginning.
They're all nonsense. It's not a crime to burn the
gay Pride flag. And if you think it is, if
those people think it is, those people are wrong. I'll
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tell them they're wrong. Nose to nose, you're wrong. It's
not a crime. It's not a crime to burn the
American flag. It's just dumb. It's not a crime. To
burn a gay pride flag. It isn't a hate crime.
You're not affected.
Speaker 1 (08:57):
Grow up.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
Or not affected, grow up to the entire LGBTQ community.
Speaker 1 (09:05):
First, would you drop the tea already? What are you
doing to yourself?
Speaker 2 (09:09):
You know that makes it all political and you just
want to live your life?
Speaker 1 (09:12):
What are you doing?
Speaker 2 (09:13):
Secondly, and this is very important, You're not special. I'm
sorry nobody ever told you this. I know your mom
probably told you you're a special a lot. You're not special.
You're an American. Go live your life, but you don't
get special flags, and your flags don't get special protections.
Speaker 1 (09:29):
And if you don't like it, I don't care.
Speaker 2 (09:32):
I have argued against hate crimes legislation, and trust me,
there are plenty of Jewish groups in Indiana not happy
with me because I oppose anything that puts Jews in
a special category, as that somehow they're flowers that need
extra protection. I oppose the anti Semitism definition. Words have meaning,
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and I don't mind a definition, but we got to
get into some kind of special definition here.
Speaker 1 (09:58):
We know what we're talking about. We're all great. It's nonsense.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
Fifteen years in jail for burning a pride flag, But
it's okay to burn an American flag. Stop talking. You're
all crazy. Those people are nuts. You painted a rainbow
on a roadway. It's not some special roadway that can't
be touched. It can't be walked on. It's not the
tomb of the unknown soldier. It's gonna get marks on it.
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If people want to do wheelies in it, they can,
although you could argue that that's the crime in and
of itself.
Speaker 1 (10:36):
But this is the silliness.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
I get the point that Rufo is making here, Christopher Rufo.
None of this stuff should be crimes, and every one
of these people shouldn't be engaging in any type of
threat of jail, and the people threatening them with jail
should lose their jobs.
Speaker 1 (10:53):
They're wrong, And the.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
So called advocacy groups who think that this should bring
some kind and the penalty are wrong. Stop being ridiculous.
You're not special. The American flag is special, so Tony,
I it's special. Why do you oppose any legislation or
any movement to make it a crime to burn it?
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Because it's only special if we make it so, not
because we create some laws to protect it. We created
laws and hate crime, this and that to protect it.
Those things aren't special. You just heard me say it.
How does the same rules not apply. The American flag.
Speaker 3 (11:31):
Is special because we say so, because we teach it so,
because we pass on this importance to our kids and
to their kids, because we show the reverence for it,
and therefore others learn to do so as well.
Speaker 1 (11:45):
It's the only reason it's special, not.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
Because you create some law or put forward some executive order.
So it's up to us, once again to respect the
flag and teach others how to do the same.
Speaker 1 (12:02):
This feels like it's the end credits to a song,
to a theme song. Nope, huh, it's in my head.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
There's something there. Tony Katz ninety three WIBC. Good Morning.
Time to play America's favorite game. What the heck is
that television theme song? Here's how we play our game.
Producer Carl picks a television theme song from yesteryear.
Speaker 1 (12:27):
I have to guess what it is.
Speaker 2 (12:30):
And for those of you watching the live shame, Yes,
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Speaker 1 (12:44):
You'll find it there. Fantastic, fantastic watch.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
Ooh, it sounds like I should know what this is.
It's in my head, but I'm not sure, So I
guess I will phone a friend.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
And Matt behar What is this television theme song?
Speaker 2 (13:04):
I believe that's Alien Earth to Tony. That's that's excellent work, Son,
absolutely excellent work. The chatroom doesn't doesn't know. Wow, the
chat room is not sure what it is. But I
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will go with the only real guest they've made.
Speaker 1 (13:29):
Producer Carl.
Speaker 2 (13:31):
Let me let me check the X first. Let me
see if anybody's posted it. No, this is not the
theme to Saturday Night Live. No, No, I'm sorry, You've
got that wrong. Is this the theme to the eighties
Sensation Sister Sister?
Speaker 1 (13:51):
Yeah? Also, I don't even know if that was from
the eighties? What is this the theme to the Tonight
Show with Leto? That's a bunch of crap? You know what?
Speaker 2 (14:12):
You know what? Play that again for you for doing that?
Play it again for you.
Speaker 1 (14:16):
You deserve it. There it is, you know what? I
got my own. I'll you want to take me on
in this fight? I will crush you.
Speaker 2 (14:29):
Well, if I played Johnny Carson, that's obvious. So now
I was never gonna I was never gonna get that
at all in the slightest I don't know how that
became the thing.
Speaker 1 (14:43):
Why is that the thing? It doesn't matter, It doesn't
what am I? What am I asking? Good Lord Tony
Katz today at noon, you should.
Speaker 2 (14:53):
Really join that show. It is spectacular. We will be
discussing trumph, Russia and Ukraine. Because President Trump was very
very clear in the cabinet meeting, it's all talk, it's
all posturing, it's all bs. He said, the words doesn't
matter what they say. Everybody's posturing, it's all And then
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then he said it. I don't know where that leads him.
Does that lead him to saying, all right, we'll put
a force in Ukraine, or we're done talking to the Russians.
We're going to sanction them like there's nothing else, and
we're gonna tell India if you buy their oil, you
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and I we've got an issue. I don't know what
does it mean that it's all.
Speaker 1 (15:43):
So okay? So it's all garbage, it's all bs. Now
what now? What?
Speaker 2 (15:48):
Just provide Ukraine with the weaponry and sell it to
them via NATO or through their own purposes, and and
be like, hey, as long as we're making money, let
them do whatever. These people are not serious. We always
understood that we couldn't trust the Russians. Now, what do
you want to do with that?
Speaker 1 (16:08):
Again? We'll say it.
Speaker 2 (16:09):
And anybody who thinks that Russia is not the expansion
of power of the aggressor here is out of.
Speaker 1 (16:15):
Their skulls, out of their minds.
Speaker 2 (16:21):
And anybody who thinks were better off with Ukraine not
being there is nutty is only purposefully kidding themselves.
Speaker 1 (16:33):
So I've got that story.
Speaker 2 (16:35):
Of course, we've got Christy Nome, the Secretary of Homeland Security,
saying no illegals adventure in the United States for three
straight months, which is.
Speaker 1 (16:43):
Very, very impressive. And then we've got.
Speaker 2 (16:50):
The story of the Indiana GOP and redistricting. Now I
should be clear that I do not have faith in
the Indiana GOP to do the right thing.
Speaker 1 (17:06):
I don't. I think there are some good people.
Speaker 2 (17:09):
I think that there are some decent people, and there
are some people that I disagree on things, but I
don't think there I think they need to call the
special session on redistricting. I don't know what they'll do.
I would say that I can. I think we're creating
momentum for the idea of calling a special session.
Speaker 1 (17:32):
I would have no idea of they'll vote for redistricting.
That they don't do it.
Speaker 2 (17:36):
On property taxes, that is for us to get out
there and vote on.
Speaker 1 (17:43):
That's for us to make changes on.
Speaker 2 (17:46):
I do argue that being the super majority has made
them complacent. I have no interest in the Indiana Democratic
Party having power in the state of Anana.
Speaker 1 (18:00):
Have you met these people?
Speaker 2 (18:02):
This is an unseerious group of people, outrageously so incapable
and incompetent. They make Diego Morales look decent.
Speaker 1 (18:13):
And we should be.
Speaker 2 (18:14):
Clear that we are still eyes on the prize on
F and Diego fake news, Diego Morales, F and Diego
is the name uh and on his Tokyo Rose Lindsay Eaton, Lindsay,
you started this. I didn't want any part of this.
I just wanted answers. He called us fake news. Why
and you said you won't talk to us. You didn't
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engage what we ever said that was fake? You vilified
our news department, to which you, Lindsay Eaton should apologize.
Speaker 1 (18:42):
You should apologize, But if you.
Speaker 2 (18:45):
Want to start this fight, I'm more than happy to
end this fight. So when I talked about f and Diego,
fake news Diego, I mean every word of it, and
I have no plans of stopping. And the delegates need
to get the heads out of buts, and they need
to make somebody else for Secretary of State. Other people
can do this. Ain't nothing special about Diego. He thinks
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he's Trump. Dear lord, what possibly you're not Trump? You're
not even Michael Cohen. What are you talking about? You're
nobody in the Trump orbit. You ain't tough. We're laughing
at you now.
Speaker 1 (19:26):
Now.
Speaker 2 (19:26):
It doesn't mean that the delegates are gonna listen. It
doesn't mean that this guy couldn't win reelection. But this
is unsirious. Unsiious. Is Diego Morales and Lindsay Eaton and
his team? Who paid for the trips? It's a fine,
legitimate question. And every time you don't answer, you're Nancy Pelosi.
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You are a Democrat, not answering how you got that
stock tip more at noon, guys, I'll catch you then