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September 9, 2025 • 74 mins

Rokita investigating potential labor trafficking in Indiana by Exodus Refugee Immigration. Time to re-open the asylums. Charlotte killer in his own words. President Autopen. France is a mess. California woman facing felony charges for registering her dog to vote, casting 2 ballots
Amy Coney Barrett talks Supreme Court. Even Charlotte killer's mom says that the judicial system failed her son. TED Sports coming to Indianapolis. Hoosier Leadership for America Summit this weekend. Indianapolis should be the capital of the Midwest, but leadership doesn't want it. The left compares J6 to Pearl Harbor and 9/11. Another edition of Jasmine Crockett Masterpiece Theatre. Vintage "Like" Soda for girls clock. Todd Rokita targets refugee agency during Trump's immigration crackdown. Brownsburg Town Council president faces domestic abuse allegations, protective order Issued. Why are we against data centers? Don't allow California to vote in federal elections until they require IDs. Greta's boat not hit by a drone. They shot themselves with a flare. Trump going to SCOTUS over tariffs The left doesn't believe in photo IDs for voting. Why won't the left protect the vote in blue states? 

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Speaker 1 (00:12):
Potential labor trafficking. That explains the subpoena.

Speaker 2 (00:23):
Regarding exodus refugee.

Speaker 1 (00:25):
And I know that the left in Indianapolis is very
upset with this because if it's if it's Todd Rokeda,
it's the attorney general, you lose your minds. It's always
been this way about Rokeda. Tony Katz ninety three, w
I b C. Good morning, good to be with you.
The the hatred of Rokeeda from the moment I arrived

(00:50):
in Indiana hearing this from people unrivaled. Lost the Senate race,
but he had one of two rational races. He's the
attorney general. If he wants to be Attorney general again,
I think he's going to get elected again. And by
the way, when doctors are sharing, in my view, information.

Speaker 2 (01:09):
About children, that's a problem. I will leave it at that.

Speaker 1 (01:13):
Sharing information publicly about the health of children is a problem.

Speaker 2 (01:19):
I tend to be opposed to that idea.

Speaker 1 (01:23):
According to Rakita's office, the reporting from the Indiana lawyer
the demand issue to Exodus Refugee seeks information about alleged
possible interference with federal immigration enforcement activities.

Speaker 2 (01:38):
Which Monroe County may have engaged in so that's a
that's an interesting one.

Speaker 1 (01:51):
So the statement from the CEO of Exodus refugee. This
organization a nonprofit. Upon review, there's absolutely no justification for
this demand. We've already contacted Council. In our long and
respected history, is a nonprofit organization here in the Hoosier State.
We stand by our important works serving refugees, assilies, special

(02:13):
immigrant visa holders, and other humanitarian immigrants. And in start
contrast to the Attorney General statements, Exodus is in fact
one of the few organizations in the state of Indiana
that assists victims of human trafficking. To be clear, refugees
and immigrants are part of our who's our community, whether
tad Rakeda wants them here or not. I read you

(02:34):
the quote exactly as it's written at the IBJ. Did
they read this right? Did they print this right? Exodus
is in fact one of the few organizations in the
state of Indiana that assists okay, not assists in human trafficking,
assists victims of human trafficking.

Speaker 2 (02:52):
Got it? I read a little awkward to me. I
want to make sure I had it right.

Speaker 1 (02:58):
Assists victims of human trafficking, Well, okay, but that doesn't
necessarily answer the question, and it's an investigation, and investigations
happen all the time, and you're right, there are a
whole bunch of investigations that aren't necessary, a whole bunch
of investigations that are solely based on politics. I've often

(03:20):
said I cannot start an investigation, I cannot stop investigation.

Speaker 2 (03:23):
I do not get worked up about an investigation.

Speaker 1 (03:29):
Are you indeed working to subvert immigrations and customs apforcement?
That's not answered in your statement here. So that's the question,
and it will get answered. But everybody immediately saying, my god,

(03:51):
that terrible rokta. I think the AG has done things
I don't like. I think he's done things I like.
I think this just seems to be standard practice for
an AG. And if it wasn't looking into possible human trafficking,
I'd wonder why we have that AG. Tony Katz ninety
three WIBC, Good morning.

Speaker 2 (04:13):
It was not hard to.

Speaker 1 (04:14):
Note that Arina Zarutzka was murdered because she was white.
It was a very easy thing to understand. I'm a
guy who opposes hey crimes legislation. I continue to do
so because the murder is The murder is the murder.
The crime is the crime, and it's not worse because
the person who is murdered as white or black, or

(04:37):
the person doing the murdering is white or black, Asian, Hispanic. However,
you want to engage any type of descriptor Tony Katz
ninety three WIBC, Good morning.

Speaker 2 (04:48):
But it was obvious that this stabbing.

Speaker 1 (04:50):
Death in Charlotte on the light rail was not going
to be reported by the political left until the political
right said, you're not reporting this. If the political right
on social media and new media radio had not discussed
the murder of this woman, we wouldn't be talking about it.

(05:14):
The media wouldn't be talking about it. But they've decided
that we're only talking about it because it fits our
racial desires.

Speaker 2 (05:26):
It's an interesting take.

Speaker 1 (05:28):
The story needs to be talked about because we need
to reopen the asylums. We're done pretending don't want to
hear about mental illness. Tired of hearing about mental illness.
It isn't more rampant. It is that we are not
doing a good enough job of dealing with the people
who are mentally ill, and then we've got people feeding
into mental illness. But that's a different story about transgenderism.

(05:53):
It's mental illness, just stating a fact. Gender nysphoria, according
to the d SM five and everything else we're seeing
in children is social contagion and abuse. But this black
man killed this white woman because she was white. And
we know this because the audio from the video from

(06:14):
the security cameras has him saying, I got that white girl.
No one is saying that it's been ai'ed or or
dubbed over or selectively edited. No, no, no, that's what
he's saying. That happened. Why would anybody on CNN somehow

(06:36):
think that doesn't happen.

Speaker 2 (06:38):
Why are you.

Speaker 1 (06:38):
Going after people like Charlie Kirk or What he said
was reprehensible?

Speaker 2 (06:42):
What he said was commonplace.

Speaker 1 (06:47):
Ye I could point you to hosts all over the
place who understood what happened said the same. He didn't
say anything new or inventive. You want to go after him,
go after him. Oh, it's gonna get you some clicks. Fantastic, congratulations,
Good on you. The story is you didn't want to

(07:07):
have this conversation. The story is you're upset that we
did have it, that we did notice. You're upset that
we talked about it. That's just weird. We shouldn't be
so weird. And it's not just me saying it. There's

(07:29):
a guy by the name of John Malone. John Malone
is the chairman emeritus of Warner Brothers, telling CNN to
stop being weird, start being a neutral observer.

Speaker 2 (07:43):
If they are going to be debates on whose truth.

Speaker 1 (07:46):
Is right, you're sort of sorry, neutral observer, thank you
of that debate. But people feel that you come in
with this leftist point of view and they're really turned.

Speaker 2 (07:57):
Off by it. Maybe they'll listen.

Speaker 1 (08:02):
Maybe they'll listen to somebody who was basically once their boss.

Speaker 2 (08:06):
Maybe they'll get it through their heads. Maybe not.

Speaker 1 (08:11):
Meanwhile, the White House has emails showing that even Biden
officials took a look at the autopen used for pardons
that were like, eh, maybe maybe bad. Maybe maybe bad.
The emails were obtained by News Nation from a Trump
administration investigation showing scenarios in which Biden White House officials

(08:34):
questioned whether the actions were autonomous.

Speaker 2 (08:38):
The use of the auto pen on pardons was called
into question.

Speaker 1 (08:42):
According to the documents themselves, can you please confirm the
names in the attached are the names the President approved,
They're going to need specifics from people to make sure
these names were correct. They didn't know because the Biden cabal,

(09:07):
not Joe Biden, was using something called the autopen to
sign pardons not based on these people get a pardon,
but anybody who fits in this category gets a pardon.
And then the cabal, the people around Biden, not Joe Biden,
changed the conditions of the pardon parameters and then they
used the autopen to sign them. Biden telling The Times,

(09:35):
I made every single one of those decisions. No one
believes you, no one believes them, and a pardon signed
by autopen should not count.

Speaker 2 (09:50):
These things have to be signed.

Speaker 1 (09:54):
Even the Biden officials knew that these people were nuts.
Killery being on Watergate and being taken off the Watergate
case because she didn't believe that Richard Nixon should be
a loud a lawyer. It's a great story. That's where
these people are at. We don't care what we do

(10:15):
as long as we win, as long as we have power.
That's the reality. And in France it's a mess. They
had themselves a vote of no confidence against the prime minister.
The prime minister will resign if he hasn't already this morning.

(10:35):
That leads President Emmanuel Macrone to appoint a new prime minister,
which I believe is his seventh. That's number seven. France
is a mess. It's a very very odd government. It's
held together by duct tape. And then, of course you

(10:58):
have the Islamist immigrant issue.

Speaker 2 (11:02):
You've got it, You've got your.

Speaker 1 (11:03):
Own problem with social society, but now you add the
Islamist immigrant issue and things only get worse.

Speaker 2 (11:11):
What are you gonna do? This is what the people
vote for, This is what the people get.

Speaker 1 (11:17):
I feel the same way about Indianapolis, which brings us
back to this story about exodus refugee and the subpoena
from the Attorney General and what the left is saying
and how it relates to Donald Trump.

Speaker 2 (11:30):
I will get into that story.

Speaker 1 (11:32):
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ninety three WIBC, Good morning, what is going on?

Speaker 2 (11:48):
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(12:38):
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Speaker 1 (12:53):
Representative Ireland put out a post on the socials Can
we get can we get confirmation of this? Producer Carl
like an actual story, a story is he retweeted a
post from something called the Calvin Coolidge Project, and who

(13:17):
knows if it's an actual organization or just somebody's.

Speaker 2 (13:21):
Name on Twitter. Neither here nor there.

Speaker 1 (13:24):
A sixty two year old California woman is facing out
the six years in prison for registering her dog to
vote and for voting in the dog's name. Now every
part of you would be like, that's insane, and also
I could see that happening. The question before us is

(13:47):
did it actually happen? This is what I want to know,
not a post and not a repost. I want to
know if it happened. Because if you want to argue
the issues with mail voting, etc.

Speaker 2 (14:04):
They're massive.

Speaker 1 (14:06):
You don't have to invent something in order to do it.
It was like the stories of schools are putting out
giant swimming pools, of baby pools of kitty litter because
there are students who are identifying as furries.

Speaker 2 (14:21):
Remember that story was like, that wasn't happening.

Speaker 1 (14:24):
Although I have no doubt that there are students who
identify in all sorts of ways because you have parents
and adults playing into mental illness. But you have to
know whether something actually happened, to be able to know
how to respond to the thing that's happening. Now we
can go through the what ifs. We can go through
the what ifs. Two forms of ID to vote two

(14:48):
both photo. That's the way we're going to go with this.
If people are registering their dogs. But just because you
see something online doesn't make it real. Just because you
see something in print doesn't make it real. You want
a great example, Dewey defeats Truman. Check, double check, recheck.

(15:13):
It's the only way to actually live a life where
you know what's going on. Here's your carl find out
did this really happen?

Speaker 2 (15:20):
Please? Tony Katz ninety three WIBC, Good morning.

Speaker 3 (15:25):
And for the folks who say, well, the founders were
dealing with completely different problems back then. They were not
contemplating what a country could look like decades decades later,
how do you know they want a living, breathing constitution
that changes. How do you respond to that?

Speaker 4 (15:43):
You know the genius of our constitution, and I talk
about this in the book when I describe originalism and
describe our written constitution is that it's written at varying
levels of generality, so sometimes it's very specific. The president
has to be at least thirty.

Speaker 2 (15:57):
Five years old.

Speaker 4 (15:58):
But sometimes it's very general. We're protected from unreasonable searches
and seizures. We have freedom of speech. And to have
freedom of speech doesn't mean that you have freedom only
to pass out pamphlets in a town square. I mean
it means that you have freedom to be on broadcast news.

Speaker 5 (16:14):
Right.

Speaker 3 (16:14):
And the twenty second amendments as you can only run
for office for two terms.

Speaker 2 (16:19):
True, you think that that's cut and dry, Well, that's.

Speaker 4 (16:23):
You know, that's what the amendment says, right, you know
after FDR had four terms, that that's what that amendment says.

Speaker 1 (16:30):
Interesting from Brett Bair to try and get Justice Cony
Barrett to get on the record about whether or not
Trump could run again.

Speaker 2 (16:38):
He's not running again. What do we can we? Please?
Not just not even in the well? What ifs No,
I'm not doing that.

Speaker 1 (16:46):
Tony Katz ninety three WIBC, Good morning, Good to be
with you, Amy. Conny Barrett wrote a book and she's
on the circuit doing interviews and I mean conversations about
basically how foolhardy Katanji Brown Jackson is unworthy of the court.
No one ever said that about Sonya soide my oar.

(17:06):
I disagree with her decisions. I believe that she votes
and she doesn't adjudicate. But no one ever said she
was a fool on the court. No one ever said
of Elena Kagan. There was a lot of talk about
Elena Kagan when she was put on the court. She
goes a solicitor general. There's the judicial experience, isn't there?

Speaker 2 (17:23):
What are we talking about here?

Speaker 1 (17:24):
But there was never a question about whether or not
she was a serious person.

Speaker 2 (17:29):
Never.

Speaker 1 (17:30):
It never came up. It never came up from the right,
certainly never came up from me. It never came up.
Disagreements with decisions. Absolutely with Katanji Brown Jackson, she's an activist.

Speaker 2 (17:44):
She is not, in any way, shape or form a jurist.

Speaker 1 (17:51):
And it's so obvious to see in the PB people
out there say, oh, you're a You're just a racist
for saying so because she's black. She is the one
who has made this clear and obvious. If I didn't notice,
then I would be racist. But I notice things because
I'm alive. So let them claim anything they want. I
don't care. It's like the story of Arena Zoritzka murdered

(18:15):
in Charlotte. White woman murdered by black man who then
under his breast said, I got that white girl.

Speaker 2 (18:23):
Of course, it was about race from beginning to end.

Speaker 1 (18:27):
Or you can discuss the fact that it's about the
total lack of not just I don't want to call
it law enforcement, but the total lack of a judicial
system that thinks that the bad guy should be in jail.

Speaker 6 (18:42):
His own mother told a TV station that he should
have never been allowed to roam the streets, that he
was schizophrenic. So in the early charges he was dismissed
by judges. Then he pleaded guilty to two charges of fellony,
larcian breaking and entering. The judge suspended his sentence and
put him on probation. Another time, he was released months
early after five years in prison. Then a judge released

(19:03):
him on the same day after the third time, he
misused nine to one one. According to the affidavits, based
upon a written promise. The judge says, I want a
written promise that you will return for your court hearing
because of the cashless bail, and the governor there say
says we need more police. But the question is he
was arrested fourteen times by the police. So it sounds

(19:24):
like the police did their job. Are the judges and
this cashless bail are they the problems?

Speaker 2 (19:29):
The answer it clearly is yes.

Speaker 1 (19:33):
And for the people who have been long pushing cashless bail,
this is coming to an earth shattering end. The Trump
administration had discussed this last week week before. You now
have the governor of North Carolina, Democrat by the name
of Josh Stein. I am heartbroken for the family of
Arena zar Utzska who lost their loved one to the

(19:54):
senseless act of violence, and I'm appalled by the footage
of her murder.

Speaker 2 (19:58):
We need more cops on the beat to keep people safe.
Maybe you know who you.

Speaker 1 (20:04):
Should talk to Chicago, Jamie Pritzker. Just proving point one
for point two is this wasn't about the police. It's
an unnecessary attack on the police. This is about people
like Ryan Meers. This is about judges prosecutors. Are they

(20:25):
prosecuting and are judges actually holding people?

Speaker 2 (20:31):
In this case, the judge who was like.

Speaker 1 (20:34):
Well, just sign this and promised to come back, arrested fourteen.

Speaker 2 (20:38):
Times, known to have a mental.

Speaker 1 (20:41):
Illness, believed to be schizophrenic, sign this piece of paper.

Speaker 2 (20:44):
It's okay.

Speaker 1 (20:45):
Throw that judge off the bench, Throw that judge in
a cell. There's also talk that the judge had a
business helping these people who were given these opportunities.

Speaker 2 (20:56):
There's must be a name for that. But don't forget that.

Speaker 1 (21:03):
If you think that there is not a racial component
to this girl's murder, you're being ridiculous. Black man kills
white woman and said I got that white girl. Of
course it was there. The mental illness could also be there,
but of course that was there. Don't deny CNN that
this would be a national story in the first four seconds.

(21:24):
If it was the other way around, it would be
a national story. The only way you guys could have
tried to make this not a national story anymore is
if the guy doing the murdering was Islamist. Those are
the facts. We need to reopen the asylums. It's not

(21:45):
going to be popular. People are gonna scream we need
to reopen the asylums. We're through the looking glass. We're
done discussing it. It has to happen, so let's make
it happen.

Speaker 7 (22:04):
Temperatures will fall into the mid fifties. We'll slowly see
those Temperatures increase later in the week eighty three degrees
on Wednesday, mostly sunny skies and mid eighties possible Thursday
and Friday. Still dry conditions expected pretty much throughout the
entire week.

Speaker 1 (22:21):
That is Tara Hastings, quick and to the point, that
is me.

Speaker 2 (22:29):
That's you, that's you. That that was it. I'm just
saying it was wickety split. Can we get that, Carl
You got that?

Speaker 5 (22:40):
Yep?

Speaker 2 (22:41):
Thank you?

Speaker 7 (22:44):
How big do I have like a folder with all
these things?

Speaker 2 (22:47):
And yes, what it's called, Tara Hastings. I have nine.
I have nine sound effects in there right now and
lately split will be number ten. No good, right.

Speaker 1 (23:01):
I've got your little laugh, I've got your regular laugh.
And then of course right, yes.

Speaker 2 (23:12):
That is correct.

Speaker 7 (23:13):
Wow, nailed it. Shookas Oh I forgot about that one.
Yeah that's it.

Speaker 2 (23:20):
Oh okay, get off my lawn. So we got them all.

Speaker 7 (23:28):
I love it.

Speaker 2 (23:29):
I have got nine for you, but I only have
one for Matt Bear.

Speaker 8 (23:34):
That's it, right, that's how it should be.

Speaker 2 (23:39):
And then I have one Marcus Bailey. So that's Marcus.

Speaker 7 (23:44):
That is Marcus. Yeah, that is him. Every time I
walk in the door in the morning.

Speaker 2 (23:49):
That's it right there. M hm, Tara Hastings.

Speaker 1 (23:52):
The people love you and they want more Tara Hastings.
So we're going to have to come up with some
kind of Meet Tara.

Speaker 2 (24:01):
He's gonna have to do it. He's gonna to do
some kind of Meet Tara thing right there. It's a
it's not a trap.

Speaker 1 (24:10):
It's gonna be just fine, fine, it's gonna be absolutely perfect,
and Tara is gonna entertain the people with song.

Speaker 2 (24:19):
You're really little bit racist. Well you're a little bit too,
so it's gonna be terrific.

Speaker 7 (24:27):
I've never heard that before.

Speaker 2 (24:29):
Oh yeah, Avenue Q.

Speaker 1 (24:31):
Oh, oh, dear lord, have you not seen Avenue Q.

Speaker 5 (24:36):
Avenue Q No, Oh my gosh.

Speaker 1 (24:41):
The whole thing is done with It's Broadway, but it's
done with puppets. But you see the puppeteers on stage
with the puppets, but they only talk through the puppets,
and then two of them and then two of the
puppets have puppet relations.

Speaker 2 (24:54):
Yes, yes, it's hey kids going to school. It's that's
Tarah Hasten from which TV is saying all that, and
I for one thinks she's wrong. Shame on you, Tara.

Speaker 7 (25:06):
I'm looking it up right now.

Speaker 4 (25:07):
Oh my gosh, I see it.

Speaker 2 (25:09):
Oh yeah, oh, Avenue Q.

Speaker 1 (25:12):
If we ate Broadway in Indianapolis, could we bring that
out over just just like three nights, three nights of
Avenue Q. Yes please, yes, please, Oh my goodness, Tara,
I gotta go.

Speaker 2 (25:24):
I gotta do do Okay, do the right. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (25:26):
Let's let's get that Broadway going Broadway in Indianapolis, Avenue Q.

Speaker 2 (25:29):
Make it happen, Make it happen.

Speaker 1 (25:32):
Forty eight degrees in the American standard cooling Weather Center
the time at seven oh.

Speaker 9 (25:36):
Nine, Ted Sports is coming to Indianapolis like a Ted talk,

(26:06):
but it is about sports.

Speaker 2 (26:07):
It's a three day conference.

Speaker 1 (26:11):
You've got executives from WWE, Google, NFL, the Colts, Riot Games,
They're all going to be speaking at Old National Senate.

Speaker 2 (26:21):
I think it's groovy. You've got that going on this week.

Speaker 1 (26:23):
You've got the Jerusalem Prayer Breakfast going on this week.
You got the Who's your Leadership Summit.

Speaker 2 (26:28):
Going on this week. I will be there. You can
actually get information who's your leadership?

Speaker 1 (26:33):
Number four America? Who's your leadership for America? So just
use the number four that is this Friday and Saturday.
You can actually register and be able to attend. I
am speaking tutor Dixon Kirch Schlickter. Caleb Blakesley, my counterpart
morning host there in Fort Wayne Rahem Cassama, is going
to be there. I have questions for some of these people.

(26:56):
I'm curious to hear what some others are going to say.
The main event is on the thirteenth, the evening reception
on the twelfth. You can get your tickets. Who's your
leadership Number four America? Who's your leadership for America dot Com?
But this is very groovy the Ted talks. This kind

(27:17):
of thing happening in Indianapolis is good for us. This
is the kind of stuff. We are the place where
thoughts come from. We were talking the other.

Speaker 2 (27:28):
Day that it is.

Speaker 1 (27:33):
I think imperative that Indianapolis be the capital of the Midwest.
I have wanted this for years. Indianapolis doesn't seem to
want it. They don't want it, They're not interested in it.
It's a shame Indiana should want it. It's not Chicago,

(27:56):
it's us. We're not giving it up to Sinnati or
Saint Louis. I am not interested in losing this fight
to Nashville and that's a hard fight to win better
weather music scene.

Speaker 2 (28:09):
It's difficult. We can we just have to want it.
Things like this make that possible.

Speaker 1 (28:17):
This is good stuff taking place, and I only hope
it's successful. I don't think I'm gonna be able to
swing by, would love to swing by. Alison Barber is
a part of this. Alison Barber is a really really
good story, a political story there her work with the Fever.

(28:40):
She is now with a group called I Believe Marvella.
So interesting stuff happening here in Indianapolis.

Speaker 2 (28:50):
The more the better.

Speaker 1 (28:53):
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Speaker 2 (30:27):
Now.

Speaker 1 (30:27):
I was going to get into this story. I had
it on the show sheet the other day. I'm happy
to see the White House pushing back on Europe because
the Europeans have decided that a great way to control
speech and make some cash is to put some serious
fines on American companies. Trump putting out Europe today hit

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another great American company, Google with a three point five
billion dollar fine, effectively taking money that would otherwise go
to American investments and jobs. This is on top of
the many other fines and tax is that have been
issued against Google and other American tech companies in particular.
Very unfair and the American taxpayer will not stand for it.

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That's correct. This is the right move. What's been going
on with Apple and others. This is abuse from the
Europeans through their tech let's call it swindling, which flies
in the face of what we value in America, which
is free speech.

Speaker 2 (31:29):
But Europe doesn't value free speech. We are very.

Speaker 1 (31:33):
Different places, which is why we need to rethink our
European alliances, and we have to be taking longer looks
at places like Poland and saying hey friend, and longer
looks at places like the UK and say you're dying
and you're killing yourselves and you hate your people. That

(31:55):
has to happen we'll get into that. It's a very
interesting story. I'll post it again today over there at
Tony Katz dot com. This was a fun bit. It's
a press conference and there's Hakim Jeffries, and there's Eric Swalwell,

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and there's Jasmine Crockett, which is always, of course a
sign of nothing but absolute joy.

Speaker 2 (32:24):
And they're there there.

Speaker 1 (32:26):
It's a House press conference, Democratic leadership press conference. I
didn't realize Jasmine Crockett was part of Democratic leadership, and
I guess Eric Swalwell compared January sixth to nine to
eleven and Pearl Harbor. And so a reporter is asking
the question to the House Leader, Hakim Jeffries, who by

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now has to realize he can't do anything. He is ineffectual,
he isn't prepared for the moment. It's the same old sabled.
It is precious, absolutely rushious, Thank you eater.

Speaker 6 (33:02):
Congressman Swallow just compared Pearl Harbor to January sixth.

Speaker 2 (33:06):
Do you agree.

Speaker 10 (33:08):
I think what Congressman Suawell said is that there are
certain days that will forever live in infamy in terms
of the shock to the conscience of the American people.

Speaker 1 (33:24):
If you want to argue that Pearl Harbor and January
sixth are on the same level.

Speaker 2 (33:31):
You can, but you're insane.

Speaker 1 (33:36):
If you want to argue that September eleventh and January
sixth are on the same level, you can, but those
people are nuts. The obsession with January sixth, and I
don't say j six is a great day. I don't
make that argument. I make the argument that certainly we

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don't have the full.

Speaker 2 (33:57):
Truth on January sixth.

Speaker 1 (33:58):
All those people invite into the Capitol did nothing wrong.

Speaker 2 (34:03):
Again, we say this, and they were invited in.

Speaker 1 (34:06):
I don't expect liars like a chem Jeffries and Eric
Swawall to admit it. They're liars. They are engaged in
a fraud. But if you think j six was like September.

Speaker 2 (34:16):
Eleventh, you're just diseased.

Speaker 1 (34:18):
Those people are broken people, and if they think they
can win votes this way, well then.

Speaker 10 (34:28):
And obviously, the attack on Pearl Harbor is a day
that will forever live in infamy for all time, and
we're thankful to the greatest generation that stepped up to
win that war against the evils of fascism in Nazi Germany.

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September eleventh is also a day that obviously is one
that everyone remembers because we witnessed it. And I think
Congressman Swawew was very clear, So let's not try to
misinterpret anything that he said. That what happened on January
sixth unfolded in front of everyone. We all saw it

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with our own eyes, and many of us lived.

Speaker 11 (35:19):
Through it, lived through it. Okay, you want you really
want this out?

Speaker 1 (35:30):
Best of luck in November twenty twenty six, November third,
that's when the midterms happened. Meanwhile, he's flanked by Swawell,
He's flanked by Jamie Raskin, And I mentioned.

Speaker 2 (35:46):
That he's flanked by.

Speaker 1 (35:50):
Jasmine Crockett. And if Jasmine Crockett is gonna be there, well, then.

Speaker 12 (35:59):
Time out fin another rousing edition of Jasmine Crocket masterpiece THEATA.
On today's edition, you should know that law enforcement does
not exist to stop crime.

Speaker 2 (36:13):
No, it is only there to investigate crime. Hmm.

Speaker 13 (36:17):
I want to be clear that like law enforcement isn't
to prevent crime, law enforcement solves crime. Okay, that is
what they are supposed to do. They are supposed to
solve crimes, not necessarily prevent them from happening per se
per se.

Speaker 1 (36:36):
Indeed, this has been another rousing edition of Jasmine Crocket masterpiece.
Theata Matt's Bear has traffic on the fives.

Speaker 2 (36:53):
Today on the marketplace. What the heck is this? This
is real?

Speaker 1 (36:59):
It turns out, Oh oh yeah, it is Tony Katz
ninety three WIBC. Good morning, Good to be with you.
During downtime, I'm clearing my head. I'm getting ready for
what's next on the show. I find myself on Facebook
Marketplace and they've got cool stuff, odd stuff, weird stuff,

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strange stuff, all sorts of stuff. The whole Marketplace segment
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Speaker 2 (37:26):
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two two zero. The marketplace has all sorts of stuff,
cool stuff I've bought, I've sold, I've done everything, and
we discussed some of these things.

Speaker 2 (37:55):
Here Matt Bear. He is uh by the way.

Speaker 1 (37:58):
You can see him in the uh in the live
stream over there, YouTube dot com, slash wibc he ooh
today he is wearing a size medium T shirt.

Speaker 2 (38:08):
Yeah, it feels good.

Speaker 1 (38:09):
Man size himself, a little bit of a little bit
of a length there, a little bit.

Speaker 2 (38:15):
Of room to breathe.

Speaker 5 (38:16):
Thank you, Tony.

Speaker 2 (38:17):
He did he did not want the constriction. No his Trapiecius.

Speaker 14 (38:22):
Oh yeah, I got a string there. Yeah, this breathes.
I like shirts to breathe. I feel airy in light.

Speaker 2 (38:28):
Would you say that you like it?

Speaker 5 (38:30):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (38:31):
I like it.

Speaker 5 (38:32):
I mean I love it.

Speaker 2 (38:33):
Hold that thought. No, no, you don't love it.

Speaker 5 (38:35):
You just just like it. Yeah, just like it.

Speaker 1 (38:38):
Did you know that there used to be a soft
drink just for girls.

Speaker 5 (38:42):
Yeah, it's called diet PEPSI ah, nice.

Speaker 2 (38:45):
I like that. I thought it was called zema.

Speaker 5 (38:48):
Oh white claw. Wait, that's not a soft drink.

Speaker 2 (38:51):
Sorry.

Speaker 1 (38:52):
On the marketplace, someone is selling a vintage soda clock
and I'm like, okay, so it's a piece of memorabilia, right,
it's or whatever you want to call it. And You're like,
you'd have beer signs, you'd have the pennzoil thing. It
would have a clock on it. You'd see it in
a mechanics workshop. This is called like lk E. The

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first soft drink just for girls. Uh, that's what it says.
I've allsoit o'clock. Probably not many of these around, works
perfectly and keeps correct time. Twenty one inches long by
sixteen inches wide. You don't know, hey, now, thank you,
thank you.

Speaker 2 (39:32):
You didn't even plan that. I just knew it was coming.

Speaker 1 (39:36):
And I'm like, and I said to myself, what in
the world is like? And it turns out you go
back to nineteen sixty eight. There there was this brand
called Like, No caffeine, no artificial coloring, no six spoons
of sugar.

Speaker 2 (39:54):
These weren't made for girls. That's why likes bubbly.

Speaker 1 (39:58):
Er, cleaner, brighter, pure natural girl like flavor comes shining through.

Speaker 5 (40:05):
Well, that's just remarkable to.

Speaker 1 (40:07):
Which the ad ends yesterday women's suffrage today a soft
drink just for girls.

Speaker 2 (40:14):
Progress never comes easily. Smile.

Speaker 14 (40:18):
This is just a beauty of capitalism. You don't find
the marketplace create it, and now you have one. I'd
like to know why, like Cola or whatever kind of
soft drink it is didn't last you know, did.

Speaker 1 (40:30):
They rename it tab or was this a fresca?

Speaker 14 (40:36):
They renamed a tab? I think this was. I look
at the clock here that they're selling it. It has
kind of at the hour glass slender shape like wolf right,
you know, And that's that's nice. But it's been well used,
like it's been in the bar quarter for well since
nineteen sixty eight, you know, or fifty eight whatever the
like cola came out, so it's been around for a while.

Speaker 1 (40:59):
I I have I had never heard of it a
day in my life. I have never seen it a
day in my life. I think it is very cool.
Is it yours for two hundred dollars?

Speaker 2 (41:11):
Not bare? No?

Speaker 15 (41:14):
Really no, no, I don't want to for two hundred dollars.
I mean, this is I don't even have a garage
to put this in. This is it's a cola that's
not around anymore. And I mean it's a nice conversation starter.
But it's just a well used bar sign, you know.
That's that's kind of this is something you hang in
a bar.

Speaker 1 (41:32):
I do not know if it's worth two hundred dollars
in terms of value. I know that I've never seen
it before and that in the quote unquote man cave
has got to be one of the cooler things I
would have ever seen.

Speaker 5 (41:46):
I would definitely put it in a man cave.

Speaker 14 (41:47):
I mean, if I was building one and I had
the two hundred dollars and I wanted like a centerpiece,
this could be it.

Speaker 5 (41:52):
It really could.

Speaker 14 (41:53):
I mean it as like a little pin wheel for
the eye. It's I'm assuming it still does it still work?

Speaker 2 (42:00):
I'm told it works perfectly and keeps correct time.

Speaker 5 (42:04):
Fantastic. You just pop a battery in the back end.

Speaker 14 (42:06):
You have your like cold a working clock sign, and
that's that's pretty special.

Speaker 5 (42:10):
So yeah, two hundred dollars, No, I'm out, I'm out.

Speaker 2 (42:14):
Yeah, it's plugins. It's not that no, I'm define, but
I think it might be for somebody.

Speaker 1 (42:18):
I think this is a very interesting, interesting piece. I'd
be curious to know what people who know better what
they would say, what it is worth find that at
the marketplace. Find everything we do with the Marketplace over
at WIBC dot com. Tony Katz, ninety three WIBC, Good morning.

Speaker 2 (42:36):
I think this story.

Speaker 1 (42:37):
About exodus refugee requires a little more attention because there's
a question for us as hoosiers, which is what.

Speaker 2 (42:45):
Do we want?

Speaker 1 (42:47):
Don't tell me about any level of national party, this,
that or the other.

Speaker 2 (42:52):
What do we want?

Speaker 1 (42:54):
Tony Katz ninety three WIBC, Good morning. That's right, we
want more Tony kats and ninety three WI. That is accurate,
well done, well played. This is the Attorney General Todd
rukeda a subpoena that has now been issued a civil

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investigative demand to the Exodus Refugee Center in Bloomington, So
there may be a civil case. They're trying to get
the information. An investigative demand is not an accusation of wrongdoing.
Our focus is on covering facts and rooting out potential wrongdoing.

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ICE is saying it's faced numerous challenges in Monroe County
as a result of what may have been here's the quote,
a coordinated effort by entities in Bloomington to help illegal
aliens evade apprehension. The question before us is what do
we want? What we hear on a national scale, do

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we want Indiana to be a place that harbors those
who are in the country illegally?

Speaker 2 (44:12):
Yes or no?

Speaker 1 (44:13):
And if the answer is yes, what other illegal activities
can we harbor?

Speaker 2 (44:20):
The argument will come back.

Speaker 1 (44:22):
One would believe, well, people aren't illegal, This, of course
is not true. People aren't illegal, but acts are illegal,
and the person who has crossed the border illegally has
broken the law. Should Indiana go after tax evators? Should
Indiana go after speeders? Should Indiana go after muggers? Should

(44:44):
Indiana go after murderers? I mean I went down the line.
You might have the order differently.

Speaker 2 (44:50):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (44:50):
I'm not here to judge, all right, howm I judge
a little? But I'm asking the question that is not
answered by who's Rather, it is answered by some reflexology
to a political ideology that comes from on high.

Speaker 2 (45:09):
Enough with the Democratic Party.

Speaker 1 (45:11):
Stop listening to Hakeem Jeffries or Nancy Pelosi or Jasmine
Crockett or whomever else you think is in charge, Bernie
or Acossio Cortes.

Speaker 2 (45:20):
What Hoosiers? Who are Democrats? Do you want? Republican? Same deal? Nah?

Speaker 1 (45:26):
Don't talk about Trump, don't talk about Senator Bankster Young,
don't talk about Governor Brown.

Speaker 2 (45:31):
What do you want?

Speaker 1 (45:35):
You're an independent, you're a moderate, you don't ascribe to
any party?

Speaker 2 (45:38):
All right? What do you want?

Speaker 1 (45:43):
Should Indiana be a place that harbors those who are
here illegally, those who.

Speaker 2 (45:49):
Have broken the law. Yes or no, that's the question.

Speaker 1 (45:59):
And if the answer is yes, well then you have
to accept everything else that comes down the line. Because
if the answer is yes, allow me to put a
theory out there. What exactly is the value of the law.
If you say to me, the law is unjust and

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we want to undo this law, Well, there are laws
out there that have been unjust.

Speaker 2 (46:25):
But the law that you're stating is unjust.

Speaker 1 (46:27):
Is the law that says you cannot enter the country illegally.
If you believe that there is no such thing as
entering in the country illegally, you don't believe in a border.
If you do not believe in a border, I'm afraid
to tell you that that theory is going to be
tested on your home, on your person, because.

Speaker 2 (46:51):
If there's no border, well then there's no border.

Speaker 1 (46:55):
But maybe we should first ask before we get into
all of these things, what do.

Speaker 2 (46:59):
You want.

Speaker 1 (47:01):
If exodus refugee and I'm not making any accusation here,
if exodus refugee is actually engaged in trying to thwart
immigrations and customs enforcement, we are going to simply accept that.
Is that something that Hoosier's value, Well, it's an unjust law.

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What is unjust.

Speaker 2 (47:25):
Saying you have to legally enter the United States.

Speaker 1 (47:28):
I don't disagree that there have been in America's history
unjust laws. We could argue there are still unjust laws today.
I'm asking do we believe that making sure that somebody
is legally in the United States? Do we actually think
that is unjust? And if so, why explain it? I

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would put forth to you that the vast majority of
Hoosier's still being rational, people recognize that you can't enter
the country illegally, even if they would also that we
have to do a better job on legal immigration and
we have to make smart, valuable changes to our system.
They don't value illegal immigration, and they certainly wouldn't value

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the thwarting of those who are entrusted to uphold the law,
those who are more interested in their political affiliation than
they are the safety and security of Hoosiers, the respect
for the law, the respect for Western civilization, and toto.

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I'd be curious to know what Exodus thinks of that.
As for this investigation, just an investigation right now, These
things do happen, They happen all over the place, and
very often no one seems to complain.

Speaker 7 (48:52):
Could split.

Speaker 2 (49:02):
It's a pretty big allegation.

Speaker 1 (49:07):
You arecurrent dot com with the reporting that the Brownsburg
Town Council President Travis to Shane.

Speaker 2 (49:16):
Allegations of domestic abuse.

Speaker 1 (49:20):
Tony Katz ninety three WIBC, Good morning, Good to be
with you. These are allegations. This is the reporting from
your current dot com. A judge granting a next party
protective order the same day the petition was filed, which
was August fifth by his wife, Hendricks County Superior Court

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number one. Just because I'm gonna say this again, First
of all, innocent are proven guilty.

Speaker 2 (49:51):
Secondly, something being.

Speaker 1 (49:53):
Issued is not necessarily telling the full and complete story.
It's going to bring some attention to Brownsburg, in I'm
going to assume not the way Brownsburg wants the attention.
Then you have the Indianapolis City County Council, this story

(50:14):
from the IBJ Taylor Wooten reporting they want a public
hearing to review the idea of a data center from Google.
So they voted unanimously to hold a public hearing on
the rezoning of these of these acreage four hundred and
sixty plus acres for this Google project. Now, I understand

(50:40):
that the Council is now not necessarily totally opposed to us,
but questioning this, you've got people like Michael Paul Hart
who are opposed to it and others. What I have
not heard is the argument against data centers other than
we don't want this.

Speaker 2 (50:55):
If it is indeed an.

Speaker 1 (50:57):
Energy conversation, the questioning for us is how does that
get solved. If the answer is we don't want to
solve that, then we are discussing the desire not to
have data centers, and the question is why.

Speaker 2 (51:10):
If it is not power, then what is it.

Speaker 1 (51:15):
I am not opposed to the idea of data centers
because I do not have enough data to tell me
why I oppose it. They've got thirty people standing outside
with signs that say go away Google. If I hand
it out signs right now on Monument Circle, I could
get thirty people to scream screw you, hammer hold on. Wait,

(51:35):
forty thousand people just showed up. But I could put
out a sign for anything go a ups, go away, FedEx,
name the thing, go away Lily. I can get people
to hold a sign that says go way, Lily. It
doesn't mean anything. They don't know why they're there. Stop it.

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So what is it about the data center that is
so problematic? What's the problem? Is it a power issue,
which I'm not arguing against. I'm saying that that can
very well be a legitimate issue. Is it about who
fills these jobs? Are they all filled by H one

(52:20):
B visa holders, meaning they're coming from other countries? Is
this about what it does to a landscape? These things
are physically ugly. We have not yet engaged a detailed
conversation about the issue.

Speaker 2 (52:41):
You've got a quote.

Speaker 1 (52:42):
From Andrew Filler, who I don't know, organizer and engineer
at this rally, lives across from the planned development site.

Speaker 2 (52:52):
They are really bad for the community.

Speaker 1 (52:53):
Cities and townships everywhere just seem to suffer when they
get put in. How do they suffer? Not you don't
want to look at it across the street. That's not
an argument in my view. That's a nimby argument. Not
in my backyard. How do the cities and townships suffer?

Speaker 2 (53:17):
That's what I want to know.

Speaker 1 (53:19):
Do we oppose data centers or do we pose where
we're discussing putting the data centers could we please get
some answers to the question.

Speaker 2 (53:28):
That would be great, That would be fantastic.

Speaker 1 (53:33):
I don't know if it's coming, but if you've got thoughts,
if you know some of these answers, I'm right here.
Tony Katz ninety three, WIBC, Good morning. I'll add the
story over there, Tony Katz dot com. Woman allegedly registered
her dog to vote in California cast ballots twice.

Speaker 2 (53:53):
It's I said, if this is happening, If indeed this.

Speaker 1 (53:58):
Is happening, that people in California are anywhere are registering
pets because they don't have systems by which to ensure
someone is legally voting, then not only do we have
to now mandate across the country two forms of photo ID,

(54:23):
two forms of it, we also can't allow California to
vote until they do because they can't be trusted. They
cannot be trusted in any way, shape or for. It's
not my fault, I.

Speaker 2 (54:38):
Didn't do it. I'm not letting the puppy vote. Good gosh.

Speaker 1 (54:43):
Tony Katz ninety three WIBC, Good morning.

Speaker 2 (54:46):
Good to be with you. It's a story in USA today.

Speaker 1 (54:49):
When I saw that Representative Ireland was talking about this.
I said, who whoa whoa wa wo show me proof
of this, not just a tweet check, double check, recheck.
Turns out it's a story. There's a real allegation here.
There's a real person being charged with five different felonies
because of it.

Speaker 2 (55:10):
Two forms of ID to vote, two forms.

Speaker 1 (55:15):
Of ID to vote. That's all there is to it.
And don't allow Californians to vote in national elections until
they do.

Speaker 2 (55:25):
No federal elections.

Speaker 1 (55:28):
Now, there's an interesting story going around from the frauds.

Speaker 2 (55:32):
Who are part of this Gretituneberg flotilla.

Speaker 1 (55:35):
Uh, these these America hating West Western culture, hating jew
hating bigots, and they're gonna go give support to the Palestindians.
They're given support to Hamas and they're utilizing this mentally
ill girl to do it. You think Gretituneberg is okay,
you're out of your mind. Gretitundberg is not okay. She
is abused and has been abused four years by all

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the adults around her.

Speaker 2 (55:57):
It's obscene.

Speaker 1 (55:59):
Well, if you go to the headline of Greta Tunberg, right,
she's the the environmentalist one.

Speaker 2 (56:07):
How dare you and all that kind of.

Speaker 1 (56:10):
Stuff, she has been on the side, of course, of Islamists.
That's what she has made of her life. She's on
the side of Islamist and she's now on her second
boat heading to Gaza to give aid to Hamas. She

(56:31):
may think she's giving aid to Palaestidians, but the aid
doesn't get the Palisadians, and the UN proves this, So
she's giving aid to Hamas. It got announced that there
was a fire on the boat.

Speaker 2 (56:44):
We've been hit.

Speaker 1 (56:46):
They claim they were attacked by a drone. They were
not attacked by a drone, as video footage seems to show.
They show flare from the boat, the flair misfired, the

(57:07):
flare lands on the boat.

Speaker 2 (57:09):
I don't even know if that's a misfire. They just fired,
They didn't fire it.

Speaker 1 (57:12):
Away, and then the boat caught fire, to which they
are now claiming we were hit by a drone. You
weren't hit by a drone, your schmucks. If we were
doing a sequel to Dinner with schmucks, we'd have to.

Speaker 2 (57:30):
Make more room for all of.

Speaker 1 (57:31):
You, you unserious, ridiculously daft children. All supporters of Hamas
are fools, ignorant, stupid, ugly people.

Speaker 2 (57:50):
And that's Gretaitunberg.

Speaker 1 (57:52):
That's members of the Indianapolis City County Council, all of them.
So that seems to be the story there. They shot
a flare landed in their own boat. It's like a
it's like an episode of the Three Stooges, but there's
more of them, and none of them are as cool
as curly.

Speaker 2 (58:14):
That was a Three Stooges reference.

Speaker 1 (58:17):
You're welcome, everybody.

Speaker 2 (58:23):
Look at Carl, He's on it.

Speaker 1 (58:26):
Operation Midway Blitz is in effect.

Speaker 2 (58:44):
ICE is there.

Speaker 1 (58:46):
But then again, there was never a time that they
weren't there. They're calling it Midway Blitz. Department of Homeland
Security saying a new immigration operation started Monday in Chicago,
blasting the sanctuary laws in Chicago and Illinois, targeting people
without legal permission to live in the United States who
have criminal records.

Speaker 2 (59:09):
Good.

Speaker 1 (59:10):
This ICE operation will target the criminal of legal aliens
who flock to Chicago and Illinois because they knew Governor J. B.
Pritzker and his sanctuary policies would protect them and allow
them to roam free on American streets. That's a statement
from the Department of Homeland Security. I think that part
of it's rather interesting that they're not just saying, hey,
here's the operation. They're getting personal and political from an agency.

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And I'm sure if I said, can we find other
examples of this from other presidents and other administrations within
a social media in the social media space, I would
have no doubt we could find it. I just I
don't know. Something about that struck me. I go, dang,
we really have crossed a rubicon. I'm not saying I'm

(59:59):
a fan of that rubicon cross.

Speaker 2 (01:00:02):
I want.

Speaker 1 (01:00:02):
I want the agencies just to give me the data.
I don't want any of the personal stuff in there.
That said, I don't mind an open discussion about how
Democrats believe in sanctuary cities. And if it wasn't for
laws in Indiana Indianapolis, I'm sure it would be a
sanctuary city, which brings us back to this whole exodus
refugee conversation out of Monroe County and the question I

(01:00:25):
asked earlier, do we want to be a state that
allows for illegal immigration, that supports the idea that we
have no border?

Speaker 2 (01:00:35):
Yes or no?

Speaker 1 (01:00:35):
That never mind the national this is about us. My
vote is no. I don't want to be that state.
I don't want cities doing that, we have to ask ourselves.

Speaker 2 (01:00:47):
What we want. And then if you're going to do an.

Speaker 1 (01:00:50):
Investigation and to exous refugee, is there something that they
are doing? Are they giving aid and comfort to illegal immigrants?
Are they engaging in trying to ice from doing their job?

Speaker 2 (01:01:05):
I mean, it's a question. That's what that investigation is about.

Speaker 1 (01:01:07):
From the Attorney general, our question is do we want
to be a society that values the law or not.
Do we want to say that some laws should be broken?
Which ones? Because a lot of people are gonna have
thoughts on that.

Speaker 2 (01:01:19):
Time to fill up on the news.

Speaker 1 (01:01:21):
Tony Katz ninety three WIBC, Good morning.

Speaker 2 (01:01:26):
Good to be with you. I'm gonna get to that
in just one moment.

Speaker 1 (01:01:29):
But the chat room they're live streaming as we are
on YouTube. Just go to YouTube dot com slash WIBC.
I'm being told that I pronounce Monroe County wrong and
I should be pronouncing it Monroe Monroe, not Monroe, even
though it's spelled m O n Roe, Monroe not Monroe.

(01:01:50):
If you would weigh in and let me know, you
can weigh in in the chat YouTube dot com a
slash WIBC on the twitter X at Tony Katz or
ninety three WIV that'd be great.

Speaker 2 (01:02:02):
Monroe or Monroe? Which one? Which one?

Speaker 10 (01:02:09):
Now?

Speaker 1 (01:02:09):
Futures right now up forty two NASZAC futures are up, fifty,
Oil prices up.

Speaker 2 (01:02:16):
No, no, they're not.

Speaker 1 (01:02:17):
They're in the same exact spot. Sixty two dollars and
ninety three cents on the West Texas crued sixty six dollars,
sixty eight cents on the Brench crued no movement ten
year treasury at four point zero sixty six, So that
is now two days, two.

Speaker 2 (01:02:34):
Days in a row. It is holding in this four
point zero world.

Speaker 1 (01:02:41):
I want to see if we get under four, are
we looking for another drug?

Speaker 2 (01:02:47):
Because this is the lowest it has.

Speaker 1 (01:02:49):
Been since April April fourth, we got to three point
nine to nine. We haven't seen anything this low and
October of twenty twenty four, so it's been two full
years of these higher numbers with one one dip one valley.

(01:03:13):
So now we're back to that valley. Are we going
to see this drop even further? That's what we're keeping
an eye on. And then there is the tariff fight.
Interesting stuff because there are two federal courts saying that
the tariffs Trump is imposed are illegal.

Speaker 2 (01:03:36):
They are making an argument that, based.

Speaker 1 (01:03:37):
On the law being utilized, the president doesn't have that authority,
that this would be a tax, and therefore that would
be Congress. Maybe I'm not even saying one hundred percent. No,
I'm saying maybe the question is what happens next. What

(01:03:59):
happens next the scotis the Supreme Court of the United States.
If Scotis says, yeah, you don't have the authority based
on the laws being mentioned here, you're talking about a refund.
That refund, according to Scott Besson, could be upwards of
a trillion dollars.

Speaker 2 (01:04:21):
Here's the part that infuriates.

Speaker 1 (01:04:24):
And I'm going to look Scott bessened in the eye
and say, when you said that the people don't pay
the tariff, when you said tariffs aren't taxes, you knew
you were wrong, and you said it anyway. That's frustrating stuff. Man,
If the importer is refunded, the people are not. We

(01:04:47):
pay the tariff in the higher price, we won't get
anything back. Now you could argue, hey, the tariff was
applied to the business, so therefore they're the ones who
the tariff. They may or may not have moved the
tariff along like some companies have been eating the tariff,
so therefore they get it back. I hear you, But

(01:05:08):
some people haven't, and we've all paid higher prices and
we will get nothing. So the businesses that charge the
higher price still didn't pay the whole tariff.

Speaker 2 (01:05:19):
I'm gonna get it back. Okay, that's that's a double dip.

Speaker 1 (01:05:28):
But all of this could have been well avoided if
we had not gone down this road, if we had
focused tariffs appropriately to an actual end gain and not
said we're gonna tariff you based on trade deficit. We're
going to engage deals based on what is best for America,
and if.

Speaker 2 (01:05:47):
Not X, then we could discuss something.

Speaker 1 (01:05:51):
Trump went the other way, first saying sweeping tariffs, secondly,
tariff based on trade deficits, not based on tariffs coming
from other nations, even though the trade deficit is meaningless
to us in so many ways, and then altering them
without care or cause. Trump's objective was to shock the

(01:06:13):
system to get deals. He got some, he hasn't gotten enough,
he hasn't gotten all, and we have not seen a
result of the deal yet, which I hope works but
this is going to cause a huge amount of upheaval

(01:06:33):
if the Supreme Court rules against.

Speaker 2 (01:06:34):
I don't know. I don't know how they're going to
do it. Based on what I've.

Speaker 1 (01:06:38):
Seen from lower courts, they seem to lose a lot
because they're much more based in activism than they aren't
anything else. The Fourth Circuit Court of Appeals just backed
President Trump and being able to fire government workers. Nineteen
states sued saying you can't fire these people twenty five
thousand in all, and the Fourth Circuit, in a two

(01:06:59):
to one ruling, said, yeah, of course he can.

Speaker 2 (01:07:01):
What are you crazy?

Speaker 1 (01:07:04):
So with that and a lot of other decisions, we'll see,
we will see how it is that Scotus response, because
these lower courts have not been trustworthy at all. Tony
Katz ninety three WIBC, Good morning.

Speaker 2 (01:07:23):
Really, Hi, Oh honestly, I might make you try another one.
You can't bring this.

Speaker 8 (01:07:33):
You've been missing them lately, Tony.

Speaker 2 (01:07:36):
Yeah, but you don't lowball it man.

Speaker 1 (01:07:40):
Tony Katz in ninety three WIBC, Good morning, Good to
be with you. It's time to play America's favorite game.
What the heck is that television theme song? Here is
how we play our game, Producer Carl picks a television theme.

Speaker 2 (01:07:54):
Song from yesteryear. I have to guess what it is.

Speaker 1 (01:07:57):
I can phone a friend in Matt Bhaer, I can
check with the chat room on the YouTube's YouTube dot
com slash WIBC. Or I could just say I've got
it and uh, you're not even trying.

Speaker 2 (01:08:12):
You're not even trying. You're right. I didn't get Ally
McBeal And what was the It was Alienien yesterday?

Speaker 1 (01:08:19):
Right, But who's who's gonna forget or miss the Tonight show?

Speaker 8 (01:08:23):
You're oh, what's gonna say? Your lifeline? Might not get it?

Speaker 1 (01:08:27):
No, forget the lifeline. This is the Johnny Carson Tonight Show. Now,
if you played for me the Jimmy Fallon Tonight Show,
I wouldn't know.

Speaker 2 (01:08:37):
What it is.

Speaker 8 (01:08:38):
Yeah, you didn't get Jay Leno.

Speaker 2 (01:08:40):
Yeah, so so there's that. Yes, I would not have
gotten it.

Speaker 1 (01:08:46):
So but this this was was very very simple and
uh oh you should follow my social media.

Speaker 2 (01:08:54):
It is so glorious. I told the.

Speaker 1 (01:08:56):
Story earlier about seeing this this post from a representative
Ireland about dogs voting in Californian. I said, what is
going on here about a woman who registered her dog
to vote and then voted for the dog. And I said,
just because you see a story, check it, double check, recheck.

Speaker 2 (01:09:18):
Won't you.

Speaker 1 (01:09:19):
You're responsible my exact words. We've got the whole thing.
Sure enough, we find out the story is true. And
I wrote, if Californians are registering their dogs to vote,
then we need to require two forms of photo ID
before allowing anyone to vote, and we need to discard
any vote coming from California in any election until they do.

Speaker 2 (01:09:41):
A rational thought.

Speaker 1 (01:09:43):
I think two forms of ID and no until you
provide that in order to vote, we don't pay attention
to your vote. One troll and then Destiny Wells. Oh,
Destiny Wells is India. And this Jasmine Crockett.

Speaker 2 (01:10:04):
Oh my god.

Speaker 1 (01:10:06):
You know, if she could just be normal, I'm sure
we would have had fantastic conversations by now.

Speaker 2 (01:10:11):
But she can't. She's so desperate to troll and not talk.

Speaker 1 (01:10:15):
Oh, she writes back, you need to put some more
coffee on, dude. First of all, I have Matt Bear's
morning coffee, which we will get out to you. I
will hopefully have that link up so you guys can
get some of this coffee and be drinking and enjoying it.
But I responded with a story, and I said, as usual,

(01:10:37):
you react without having the data. That's exactly what happened.
She didn't look up the story, she didn't say link please,
or anything else.

Speaker 2 (01:10:45):
She went right for the troll.

Speaker 1 (01:10:48):
I responded with, as usual, you react without having the data,
to which she responds, you are literally calling for all
Californians votes to be disregarded because someone illegally registered their dog.
It's quite the story. But as usual, you react disproportionately.
What did I say? Two forms of ID protect the
vote and don't allow their votes to count unless they're

(01:11:11):
being proactive and protecting it. All of a sudden, we're
against protecting the vote. Okay, Destiny, take that to Hoosiers.
Let's see what office you lose next. Maybe that's why
you've been losing. I mean, running is tough, it should
be respected. But you want to talk about not connecting.

(01:11:35):
I'm talking about protecting the vote. What are you talking
about If Californians aren't going to protect the vote, Californians
should not be counted in the vote. Now, to show
you how much my thoughts are indeed connected, when Pennsylvania
in the twenty twenty election, the judiciary usurp the authority

(01:11:55):
of the legislative branch and change the hours by which
they would accept votes coming in. I said that Pennsylvania's
electoral votes should not be counted.

Speaker 2 (01:12:06):
They should never been certified.

Speaker 1 (01:12:09):
The judiciary usurp the authority of the legislative and it
is the legislative branch in each state that determines how
the vote goes.

Speaker 2 (01:12:19):
Don't accept one of us has a train.

Speaker 1 (01:12:24):
Of thought that is connected to the Constitution, to the law,
to rationality, and one of.

Speaker 2 (01:12:31):
Us is Destiny. Wells gosh, I.

Speaker 1 (01:12:40):
Swear guys, Sometimes I don't know if you find these
conversations interesting and fun or just what is Tony doing.
I think that it is such a remarkably interesting expose,
but I don't know if you do. And I am
not interested in engaging conversations that you don't find interesting.
I mean, sometimes I'm gonna talk about things that I

(01:13:01):
find inthing, no matter what, but this I can you know,
I could go either way with this stuff. I could
talk about the woman on a subway train who is
taking all you know what, like one of those files
you take to a callus to try and smooth it down.

Speaker 2 (01:13:16):
She's doing that on the subway train with her heel.

Speaker 1 (01:13:20):
I could talk about how we as a society should
be allowed to send her to a remote island like
she was Napoleon. There should be exile for people who
do this kind of stuff. Maybe that's a better story.

Speaker 2 (01:13:34):
Let me know.

Speaker 1 (01:13:35):
Email tonyatonycats dot com. You can let me know in
the chat and of course twitter X. Should I bother
with these people? But they call themselves leaders in Indiana,
and I think we should be kind of.

Speaker 2 (01:13:46):
Aware of the things that they do and say.

Speaker 1 (01:13:52):
No one told me that I shouldn't have a conversation
about a Lieutenant Governor Beckwett or. No one said I
shouldn't have a conversation about f in Diego fake news,
Diego the Secretary of State fake news. I just shortened
it to FN because it's easier. F and Diego right
makes sense.

Speaker 2 (01:14:07):
Let me know.
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