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Speaker 1 (00:20):
Are you ranking among the nation's worst for free speech?
Speaker 2 (00:24):
That is not what you'll do. That is not what
you want.
Speaker 1 (00:28):
At all or in any way. Tony Katz, ninety three WIBC,
Good morning, what is going on? Good to be with you.
This coming from the group fire, the Foundation for Individual
Rights and Expression. They they put IU at number two
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hundred and fifty five. They reviewed two hundred and fifty
seven schools. That's that is brutal. Now you gotta look
at how they did it right. They got to score
a forty three point eighty seven out of one hundred.
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They say, these are places that have restricted speech policies
and some of last year's most shocking anti free speech moments.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
Now this could.
Speaker 1 (01:18):
Also involve IU and certain decisions made regarding these Prohomas protesters.
A third of IU students said they self censor in
conversation with peers, professors, and in classroom discussions a majority,
according to the reporting of the story at the IBJ
via Casey Smith of the Indiana Capitol Chronicle. A majority
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additionally reporting feeling quote uncomfortable expressing their views on a
controversial political topic, either in a class or in a
public campus base like a quad dining.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
Hall or a lounge.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
One IU student is quoted as saying, our administration at
IU has publicly repeatedly silent students that speak out on
controversial topics. I am afraid that I would get retaliation
from the administration in terms of a lawsuit, a ban
from campus, an expulsion from the university.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
I would like to know which subjects now as they
look at this.
Speaker 1 (02:18):
University of Notre Dame was number two thirty eight a
score of fifty point four to two, and Purdue placed
second a score of seventy six point twenty four and
a speech climate.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
Grade of a C.
Speaker 1 (02:36):
DePaul finished eighteenth and a grade of a C minus.
Now I'm curious as to what a C grade gets you.
But neither here nor there. Let's go back to this
IU conversation of whether or not students feel they can
say anything. What is it that you can't say? What
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is it that you're being told you can't say?
Speaker 2 (03:00):
How do we help?
Speaker 1 (03:01):
I mean, if we have to come down to IU
and have a conversation about all the IU taboo subjects,
I'm in.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
I'll do it. We'll figure it out.
Speaker 1 (03:16):
If there is a club at IU that is you know,
legit and not communists related, and wants to invite me
in to have a conversation about every IU taboo subject.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
Cool, Why don't we do that? We have? If the
argument is.
Speaker 1 (03:37):
I'm afraid to express myself because people will decide I'm
not on the right side of things and I'll be
vilified for it by the university, that's a problem. If
we're saying this university doesn't allow us to support terrorists,
well good.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
See there's a difference there. Now.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
I am not arguing that you can't support awful, horrible
things and.
Speaker 2 (03:58):
Be allowed to say so.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
I am arguing that the university campus has rules and regulations.
We should ask what they are. What is it that
they allow and don't allow. To engage in speech that's
unpopular is different than to engage in speech that is
violence or hateful or supportive of I don't know, terrorists
or communists, etc.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
These are different things.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
So I'd love an answer, and then how about an
invite and we'll come down. Tony talks taboo. Honestly, they'll
be like red shoe diaries, but not like red shoe diaries.
But it is taboo.
Speaker 2 (04:40):
I'm in.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
Guys, get the van together. Get the cigars ready, taking
a road trip. Tony Katz at ninety three WIBC, Good morning.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
Second question frame one.
Speaker 3 (04:52):
As we're all driving and walking in here, Israel struck
guitar to take out Amas leadership. I'm curious if any
of you think that whoever survives there should be evicted
from Qatar.
Speaker 4 (05:09):
I don't know anything about that development. That's news to me.
I've been a little busy the last couple hours. But
we'll have to see how that plays out. I mean,
it's a look. I was in Israel myself a two
weeks ago in early August. It's a very dangerous time there,
and they have enemies encamped around them, and they're trying
to bring that to a piece as well.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
That's the speaker of the House, Mike Johnson.
Speaker 1 (05:30):
I'm telling you I heard the story about the Israeli
air strikes on guitar going after Hamas leadership, which has
been held up in Qatar for years, living on billions
of dollars in this incredible life, and Israel took out
a great amount of Hamas leadership. Tony Kant's ninety three WIBC,
Good morning, Good to be with you. But I will
tell you that the statement that Caroline Levitt gave yesterday
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during the press brieving and we played it live on
the show about from President Trump about israel I didn't
hit right. There was some off about it and her
entire argument that there was no warning, given that it
was the US military that let the White House know
that this attack was happening, and then it was no
way the US military told us that the attack was
about to happen. Something didn't hit right about that, and
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I wasn't the only one who caught that.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
It was very clear that.
Speaker 1 (06:21):
Caroline Levitt, who has been exceptional at so many of
these press briefings, she was getting pushed back, maybe for
only the second time, it was directed pushback because her
statement didn't make sense. Israel hit Quitar and didn't notify
the US. We have reporting that absolutely the US was notified.
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It was the US military that told the White House
only after the attack or during the attack. No, no, no,
it was the US military that was told about it
and then told the White House.
Speaker 2 (06:53):
Somewhere there's a story not being fully told here. I
would find it.
Speaker 1 (06:58):
I would find it near in popsible for Israel not
to let the United States know I would find it
very possible that Israel would let.
Speaker 2 (07:07):
The United States know just as they were doing it.
Speaker 1 (07:11):
But there was also a story that Israel warned Katar
that it was coming.
Speaker 2 (07:19):
Where is the truth? I don't have the answer. What
I know.
Speaker 1 (07:24):
Is that it is so obvious that Israel has absolutely
no plans of letting Hamas just go. They want their
people back, they want the hostages back. They're not getting
them back. They're going to destroy this leadership. Meanwhile, you
do have a hostage that was released. This was a
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hostage who was being held by Hesbila, a Princeton student
Elizabeth Serkoff sister, an American citizen, as said by Trump
on through social released by a Milton Hesbola group, safely
in the American Embassy in Iraq after being tortured for
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many months.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
I thought she.
Speaker 1 (08:10):
Had been in the clutches, if you will, of Hesbla
for a few years now.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
That's what I thought it was. But there are hostages
being held all over the place, and.
Speaker 1 (08:32):
I believe she's now heading back to Israel. I'm not
sure how that situation's going to work. I'm certainly glad
to hear somebody isn't being held hostage.
Speaker 2 (08:41):
But this was strange.
Speaker 1 (08:45):
This statement about the hit on Jumas in cutter because
Qatar cutter, however you want to pronounce it, is saying
this was cowardly and how dare they This is our
sovereign territory.
Speaker 2 (08:59):
They know that they're harboring Hamas.
Speaker 1 (09:01):
And then other nations got in like the ue like
this is terrible and awful, but it's not gonna stop
the trade from taking place, as these countries have started
working together since the Abraham Accords, so there's a lot
of faith saving here, and there's a recognition that Israel's
completely resetting the deck, reshuffling the deck.
Speaker 2 (09:24):
They're not doing the same old, same old.
Speaker 1 (09:26):
They are not going to allow themselves to be shut down.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
And what we're.
Speaker 1 (09:34):
Seeing, I think from these other nations is we're gonna
publicly say X, and we're gonna privately say we're gonna
make money, right, because that is clearly where we're at.
But I would find it strange, and I would argue
problematic if an attack like this came in the United
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States was not told, I would think that that is
it's very strange, and I would think that Israel has
got a problem if they blindsided Trump who's trying to
work out deals on hostage release and cease fires. Not
because you trust that a Trump deal is going to work,
because there's no trusting off a mass, but rather, why
would you spit in the man's face.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
That's nutty. That is a crazed thing to do.
Speaker 1 (10:21):
So the idea that he wasn't told, yeah.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
I'm not there.
Speaker 1 (10:27):
I am there on all the lies told by the
Biden administration, and one of the lies told by the
Biden administration was everything's going great, the economy is going great,
And there were economists right here in Indiana or like,
this economy is the best economy ever.
Speaker 2 (10:43):
No it's not.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
I've got people telling me today this economy is the
best economy ever.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
No it's not.
Speaker 1 (10:50):
I swear to you. It's not that we're the only
place for honesty. It's just that we're the place that
is always honest. The economy wasn't great under Joe Biden.
That was a lie. Economists that top notch news organizations,
and the economy is not great now. The United States
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added nine hundred and eleven thousand fewer jobs in the
year that ended in March. So from March twenty twenty
four to March twenty twenty five, so clearly Biden years.
Remember Donald Trump only took office in January twentieth nearly
a million fewer jobs than were reported, which means every
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single jobs report was a total fraud. We already know
they got revised down and now we see the data
according to the Bureau of Labor Statistics. I was told
when Trump was firing people from BLS, why in the
world would you do that. BLS is the most trusted
organization in the world. Are they still.
Speaker 2 (11:56):
Things are not good? I don't know why.
Speaker 1 (11:58):
This is hard for people. We have opportunity, good lore,
and we are not taking advantage of it. We need
to do better at this. Our tarrent policy is not great,
and we're not getting the deals that we want. A
policy of being abused by other nations is a terrible,
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terrible policy. The inflation is Biden's inflation.
Speaker 2 (12:24):
And is still with us. With all the outrageous spending
and no willingness to cut a single thing, we're still
in a bad spot.
Speaker 1 (12:34):
We can see our way out of this, we can
get there, but I don't think we're making all.
Speaker 2 (12:39):
The right moves that we need to. In order to
do it.
Speaker 1 (12:43):
So we know that the Biden administration lied, as they
lied about everything. These are the same people who told
us that Joe Biden is actually running the country. And
these are the same people who told us, oh, he's
absolutely fine. All those videos are cheap fakes. Of course,
he's running for reelection. Nobody's better than him. He's running
circles around us. Gosh, we can't keep up with them.
Jensaki lied about everything, and they gave her a television
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show where she makes.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
More money than I do. That is that is some
nonsense right there.
Speaker 1 (13:18):
I'm not actually looking for a television show, but as
I said, I would do it.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
But I am looking forward to the next live show.
Speaker 1 (13:24):
Yes, I think a Christmas party is necessary, but clearer schedules.
Speaker 2 (13:29):
In January. It was going to be in November. I
moved it. Clearer schedules. And you might want to find something.
Speaker 1 (13:37):
Fancy to wear, and you're gonna need a tie, a
red tie. I'll explain in the coming days. Time to
fill up on the news. Tony Katz ninety three WIBC,
Good morning, Good to be with you. Okay, there is
a tremendous amount going on right now. First, thing first,
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that Dow futures are down eighty two, Nasdaq futures are
up sixty four. Oil prices where they have been sixty
three dollars and thirty nine cents on the West Texas
crewed coming out of the ground.
Speaker 2 (14:11):
The Brench crewed.
Speaker 1 (14:12):
Up just to touch sixty seven dollars and nine cents
a barrel. The tenure treasury four point oh seven, so
up a little bit from the low as we were
discussing yesterday, but still four point zeros.
Speaker 2 (14:25):
Does it have the ability to move under four percent?
Speaker 1 (14:29):
While this is happening, you have got wholesale prices down
point one percent. Manufacturing is slowing down six months in
a row, and wholesale prices are down. So this lends
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us to well, now the Fed is going to be
back on the conversation about doing interest rate cuts, which
I was convinced they were, that I was convinced they weren't,
then I was convinced they were, and then I decided
just to drink bourbon. And I have absolutely no idea
what these people are going to do at all, at
all the.
Speaker 2 (15:11):
Futures market making it sound like.
Speaker 1 (15:16):
They are going to approve their first rate cut since
December of twenty twenty four, we'll see what it is
that they do. Interesting, interesting number. And then you've got JB.
Pritzker stating that the raids have started in Chicago.
Speaker 5 (15:37):
Unidentifiable agents in unmarked vehicles with masks are planning to
raid Latino communities and say they're targeting violent criminals.
Speaker 2 (15:49):
As we saw in Los Angeles, a.
Speaker 6 (15:50):
Very very small percentage of the individuals they will target
will be violent criminals. Instead, you are likely to see
videos of them hauling away mothers and fathers traveling to
work or picking up their kids from school. Sometimes they
will detain, handcuff and haul away children. They are law
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abiding individuals who pay taxes and contribute to the communities,
who feel safe going to work and attending mandatory immigration
check ins.
Speaker 2 (16:23):
In other words, they're following the law. That is JB.
Speaker 1 (16:28):
Pritzker announcing to all of Illinois illegal immigrants fined by
US the law not fine, they're following the law.
Speaker 2 (16:36):
They broke the law.
Speaker 1 (16:38):
And if you want to be on this side of things,
Governor Pritsker, you're more than welcome to that. You're going
to lose elections. You're going to keep losing elections. And
we should be far more aggressive speaking to the rest
of the state of Illinois saying move to Indiana.
Speaker 2 (16:54):
Just don't bring any of the politics with you. People
have come at me.
Speaker 1 (16:58):
I can't believe you think that people who moved to
another state shouldn't be allowed to vote in local elections.
Speaker 2 (17:03):
For three years. That's my argument. You have to learn
where you're at.
Speaker 1 (17:07):
Don't bring your old politics with you.
Speaker 2 (17:10):
You moved from.
Speaker 1 (17:10):
California, you move from New York, you move from Illinois,
and you bring those politics with you. Those politics are
the reason you moved. So no voting in a local
election for three years. Learn where you're at and why
it works this way.
Speaker 2 (17:24):
Consider it like an apprenticeship.
Speaker 1 (17:27):
Of course, I'm not going to get my way on this,
but can't argue that I'm wrong with my philosophy wrong
with their philosophy.
Speaker 2 (17:35):
Is JB. Pritzker absolutely wrong?
Speaker 1 (17:39):
And then I had somebody in the in the chat
if you go to the YouTube's you go to YouTube
dot com, slash wibc, we've we've got a chat room
in there and had somebody who I can't find them
right now, I don't know where they are. Rashua say
you know that somebody was stabbed at a bus station
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in Indy. Like someone was stabbed at a bus station
in Indy. This goes back to May. A woman went
to a bus terminal after being stabbed in downtown Indianapolis.
IMPD dispatched at six point thirty in the morning a
stabbing on the two hundred block of East Washington Street.
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That's the Julia Carson Transit Center. A woman suffering from
stab wounds. The woman was uncooperative with responding officers.
Speaker 2 (18:34):
Why, I do not know.
Speaker 1 (18:37):
The determination via the investigation was that this woman was
stabbed at a different location and made her way to
the bus terminal to seakup. This was brought up in
part of a conversation regarding what happened in Charlotte. Now,
there are some definite differences here that should be noted.
We don't know why this one was stabbed. We don't
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know where she was at at least from this this
reporting going back to men and she came to the
bus station as opposed to being stabbed on a bus.
Speaker 2 (19:06):
Right, This same different story. Now, if you.
Speaker 1 (19:10):
Want to talk about it's just indicative of violent things
happening in the city. Okay, but this is not the
same story as what took place in Charlotte, because what
took place in Charlotte is a man known to be
a criminal, known to be violent, known to be a
repeat offender, being let out, being let out on the streets,
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writing a signing this letter, promising to come back from
a magistrate judge who isn't even a judge like I
don't believe she's even a lawyer. From the reporting, she's
be thrown in jail for being this ignorant, and he,
because he should not have been allowed on the streets,
stabbed a woman to death who was just sitting on
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the light rail, and then no one came to her
aid and she slumped over in her chain to the.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
Floor and died. The whole video's out there and it's obscene.
Speaker 1 (20:05):
S These are different stories, but in any case, we
aren't doing enough about safety and security, we aren't doing
enough about prosecuting criminals, and we need to reopen the asylums.
And the people who want to disagree, I dare them
to bring the arguments. I'm all ears three one seven,
two three, nine ninety three ninety three. Tony Katz ninety three, WIBC,
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Good morning, are you.
Speaker 2 (20:31):
Are you serious.
Speaker 1 (20:34):
So the problem with this is this is not the
opening credits. This would be the closing credits, and someone
could be confusing this with Mama's family.
Speaker 2 (20:45):
But this is all in the family. Think about it, Tony,
It's those were the days. That's true.
Speaker 1 (20:58):
So first things first, Tony Cats ninety three WIBC, good morning,
good to be with you.
Speaker 2 (21:03):
It's time blame America's favorite game. What the heck is
that television theme song? Here is how we play our game.
Speaker 1 (21:08):
Producer Carl picks a television theme song from yesteryear.
Speaker 2 (21:12):
I have to guess what it is.
Speaker 1 (21:14):
Now when I tell you that, oh, you did not
do this as Archie's place, well that is just the lowest.
That is the lowest form of bull craft. It's a sadistry. Honestly,
I'm gonna start telling jokes about your mother in law.
Speaker 2 (21:34):
That's how bad this is.
Speaker 1 (21:38):
I've I've met producer Carl's mother in law. She's a
joy and a treat. That that is cheating. No, it's not,
it's cheating off cheating. It's the same theme.
Speaker 2 (21:55):
You got trick though.
Speaker 1 (21:57):
Made you know, basically they ran through a filter and
headed a couple of horns.
Speaker 2 (22:01):
That's a bunch of hooey. That is a bunch of.
Speaker 1 (22:05):
Who good gosh, just just absolutely awful.
Speaker 2 (22:13):
But we play every day sponsorship now available.
Speaker 1 (22:16):
I have not been on a great run as of late,
but that one was just that one was human.
Speaker 2 (22:22):
Garbage, absolute garbage.
Speaker 1 (22:24):
Booster Carl and you will suffer the wrath of the
people for that one. On Tony Katz today at noon,
good Man, Mike Coolidge in for me today as I
will be attending the Jerusalem Prayer breakfast. The Operation Midway Blitz,
that is the operation that is taking place regarding illegal
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immigrants in Chicago that is going on according to sources
as we speak.
Speaker 2 (23:10):
We'll be keeping our eyes on that and see what
comes of it.
Speaker 1 (23:15):
The Supreme Court is going to hear Trump's appeal on tariffs.
If it turns out the court says you can't use
these laws to engage tariffs like you have, the United
States is going to have to refund nearly a trillion
dollars that according to Scott Bessant, the Treasury Secretary.
Speaker 2 (23:40):
Well, that is something.
Speaker 1 (23:43):
And then be sure to check out Hammer Nigel's conversation
with the Lieutenant Governor Micah Beck with because I don't
I don't think it does the Lieutenant governor any favors
any at all. When you post about Haitian refugees, well,
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we need to be kind and good to Haitian refugees.
Speaker 2 (24:08):
Are we not kind and good already? And then you
have people saying, wait, are you.
Speaker 1 (24:12):
Saying we should allow illegal immigrants into the United States
because that's not what we want.
Speaker 2 (24:17):
You were opposed to in Logansport.
Speaker 1 (24:18):
Now you're sitting with pastors and discussing maybe how Indiana
should be more welcoming, and then you delete the post.
Speaker 2 (24:28):
He deleted the post. I mean, that's that's what is that.
Speaker 1 (24:33):
What leadership is that if you believe something, you say it,
you put it out there. And so the Lieutenant Governor
says that is his post was taken out of context.
Then he says it was poorly worded, and then he
starts having a conversation about how we the Constitution doesn't
say there's a separation of church and state, which I'm
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not arguing, but that's not the conversation on any subject.
Speaker 2 (24:59):
He made it personal, which he does.
Speaker 1 (25:01):
He's done that with me a few times now, as
opposed to just engaging in the conversation constantly personal. So
you gotta go listen to it, you gotta go hear
it for yourself.
Speaker 2 (25:15):
WBC dot com. That's where the interview is.
Speaker 1 (25:20):
I have not changed in my point of view by
the way I'm hearing from people in the medical field,
the influx of Haitian immigrants, possibly illegal in others, massive
drain on resources like in emergency rooms. Shouldn't we discuss
these things? I think we can be good people, but
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don't we have to take care of American citizens first?
Speaker 2 (25:43):
Is that so wrong?