September 11, 2025 • 27 mins
Kirk's assassin wanted to silence him and free speech. Remember those who died on United Flight 93. Bartholomew County Democrats blame the 2nd Amendment, not Kirk's assassin. They want to silence free speech, they want to take away our freedom. Don't let them.
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Speaker 1 (00:15):
There is still a gunman on the loose. Tony Katz
ninety three WIBC, Good morning, Good to be with you.
Charlie Kirk, founder of Turning Point USA, dead at the
age of thirty one, assassinated at an event at Utah
Valley University, part of what he was calling his American
Comeback Tour, which was scheduled. As we were discussing it
(00:36):
yesterday and I had brought up doing stuff on college
campuses and someone said, you know, Charlie Kirk is coming
to IU. It was October part of his American Comeback Tour.
There was a suspect, a person of interest, they referred
to it yesterday in custody. That person has been released.
(01:05):
They are right now engaged in a manhunt. I don't
know what it is they know. I don't know who
it is that they are looking for. I have absolutely
no idea where we go from here on this, but
(01:27):
I can tell you that this will be the biggest
manhunt you ever saw. There is simply no way the
Trump administration, the Bondie Department of Justice, the Cash Hotel,
led FBI is going to not turn over every rock
to find who did this. A guy who you could
(01:51):
see from videos to the video everywhere on the roof
of a building. Now, some people will tell you that
this was a professional hit without question, and then there
will be others who tell you I could have taught
a novice how to make this shot with a bolt
action rifle in ten minutes. I think that's an argument
(02:15):
for others. I think the conversation for us is first
things first, we need to find who did this, and
we cannot allow ourselves to lose sight of the fact
that Charlie Kirk was killed because somebody didn't like what
he had to say. As a guy who's in the
(02:35):
business of saying things, that is a very real moment.
I have not spoken with my counterparts here at WIBC,
nor have I spoken with any other radio counterparts. I
was supposed to record yesterday The UH We were going
to record, Eatdrink, Smoke, myself and Fingers Maloy and we
(02:56):
were like, yeah, we're not going to do that. Can't
We didn't have all the information regarding Charlie. He's like,
we do a cigar and bourbon show. How in the
world do you keep this light? How how are we
going to do that for the show that we're going
to have to record today. How just couldn't do it,
not until we had the information. I think everybody processes
(03:19):
a little differently, and me, I didn't want anybody else's
thoughts in my head. But I was on Newsmax last
night discussing this, and there were two things. If I can,
I have no idea how other people are supposed to
process these things. I don't know how they're supposed to
explain to their kids like I had to, even though
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my kids are older, what happened then, what it means
for you, especially at least in our situation being in
this business. Certainly not as popular as Charlie Kirk, but
I do events two hundred and fifty people, not twenty
five hundred people. I'm getting there absolutely security. I've informed
my station that I do not show up to events
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where there is not security. And there has to be
a recognition that Charlie had security. It would not have
stopped the person who wants to do you harm. Our
issue are the people out there who don't believe that
we should be allowed to engage, who have been told repeatedly,
again and again and again and again that these people
(04:26):
are authoritarians, and these people are Nazis, and these people
are this, and these people are that, and they are
our threat to you. There are indeed bad ideas in
the world. The reason you put them into the public
square is so you can find out exactly how bad
of an idea it is. We must be able to engage.
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The engagement of debate is indeed the civil society and
the basic concepts of civility in Toto. It is not
please and thank you, and it is not an acceptance
of somebody else's point of view, but rather allowing them
to engage it. There's the difference. I do not have
to accept it. I do not have to say I
(05:09):
understand where you're coming from. I could be like, that's nutty, goodbye.
Civility is not acceptance. Civility is not terrorizing the minority
through a level of tyranny, nor allowing the minority to
threaten those people they disagree with with acts of violence.
(05:32):
Can't have a society that way. For all, the founding
fathers through the Federalist papers warned to faction here we are, I, well,
I do this. I don't think I'm any different than you.
How are you going to explain it to your kids?
How do you process this? What happens when you say
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something on social media that someone doesn't like and you
know you have and you know you will. They have
to find who did this. We have to change the
mindset of people who think that because they disagree, they
are somehow entitled to do horrific things. We cannot have
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this society. We can't cannot survive like this. No society can.
And the more it delves into the madness, the more
the people who want to destroy Western civilization gain success.
Can't have it. What happened yesterday was flat out horrifying.
(06:40):
The video is horrifying. The close up videos are so awful.
I cannot describe them. If you have seen them, you know,
and if you haven't seen them, maybe you're better off.
Maybe not. I leave that to you. But the murder,
the assassination of Charlie Kirk, was about saying, in every way,
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and I don't know who did it, we are not
going to allow conversation to take place. That is the effect,
and the answer is yes we will. There is only
one answer. As for the people who want to push
the idea of well he deserved it, well his skirt
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is too short, as they engaged on MSNBC. Well, this
is just gonna give Trump an excuse that he.
Speaker 2 (07:33):
Put out a four minute video, and I'm not going
to play the video. I don't want to play the video.
But there was a line at the end that I
think is I just wanted to raise and read. At
the end of this four minute video, he says, for years,
those on the radical left have compared wonderful Americans like
Charlie to Nazis in the world's most worst mass murders
and criminals. This kind of rhetoric is directly responsible for
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the terrorism that we're seeing in our country today, and
it must stop right now. And obviously there's a lot
of rhetoric that is problematic. A lot of it is
coming from one particular side and from one particular building.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
But what can be done?
Speaker 2 (08:09):
I fear when this is an escalation Already in less
than twenty four hours of this shooting.
Speaker 1 (08:17):
The recognition of things that are said is an escalation. No,
it's honesty, But this is from a network that engaged
in some horrible stuff in the moments after Charlie Kirk
was killed. He was thirty one, He had a wife,
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he had two small children and a future in front
of him and a lot of people who were listening.
He didn't deserve this. I didn't know him. I think
I met him once. I didn't know. He didn't deserve this.
The killer has to be found and we have to
(09:00):
keep talking. There are other things happening in the news,
like Poland mobilizing. Tony Katz ninety three WIBC, Good morning,
good to be with you. It was Russia that engaged
a drone strike against the Poles. Nineteen Russian military drones,
some being launched from Belarus, entered Polish airspace. This over
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the last two days, Poland mobilizing drones were intercepted by
Polish F sixteen, supported by the Dutch, and they're now
saying that they're going Article four, which is, hey, everybody,
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we are we're being attacked by Russia and we're a
NATO nation, so you might want to gear up for
Article five. Article four is about consultations, like, excuse me, everyone,
if I can get everyone together here, this is happening.
Gear up, get ready, gird the loins. This is coming.
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Article five means an attack on one is an attack
on all. Is Russia purposefully raising the temperature. Absolutely they
are It is unquestionable that this is exactly what they're
doing in an effort to what well will stop as
long as we get this land, which is why we're
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hearing about Ukraine saying we don't have the ability to
keep up these defenses much longer, because the United States
is sending less and less materials to get what of
Vladimir's line is going to say, Okay, we'll give up
this and this, just make this stop. Pressure being applied
to make deals, Russia applying pressure to get a better deal.
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The Poles are not going to take this. They're not.
They've lived under communism, they live through the Nazis. They
ain't doing this, and if they have to fight, they're
going to fight to the last man. Europe better gear up.
This is happening. But as we sit here on the
twenty fourth anniversary of September eleventh, we take the time
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to remember because we don't have options, We do not
have any option but to spend our time discussing what
it is that took place, remembering what it is that happened,
that the three thousand of our countrymen were killed by
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Islamists for five six, eight six, five times we have
i believe it is a Bolling seven to fifty seven.
Can you see him up there? Or that's occur It
looks like his rocketers Winker brother forth we're five sixty
eight six five by five. As you say, wait for
bet aircraft going north and United.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
Have you got information on that yet?
Speaker 1 (12:03):
You won? Yes?
Speaker 2 (12:05):
Why did you land?
Speaker 1 (12:06):
You did not land? Ye? Northeaster Camp, David, that's Shanksville.
And as I've discussed before, Todd Beemer and everybody who
stormed the cockpit to prevent that plane from crashing into
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the White House or the Capitol or onto me as
I stood there on the corner of Ninth and E
where I was working as a restaurant manager, they saved
my life. I believe this every single day. There is
not a day that has gone by in twenty four years.
I haven't thought about it. Somehow that it hasn't come
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into my mind. Something some thought, some fleeting that if
it wasn't for them, that plane crashes. I mentioned myself
working downtown DC. My wife was a teacher in Maryland
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and the kids their parents worked at the Pentagon. My
wife watched kids trying to get in touch with their
parents who worked at the Pentagon, after seeing it, after
hearing about this attack, and not knowing whether their parents
were alive or dead. We each went through our things,
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and we didn't go through anything compared to what others
went through. Everything about September eleventh is ugly, and everything
has to be remembered, and it has to be discussed,
and it has to be shared. Some of the worst things,
the worst videos, the worst commentaries, the worst phone calls,
the most heart wrenching phone calls, they all have to
be shared today with your loved ones. They have to remember,
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they have to know that had happened. How else can
we ensure that it doesn't again, That we win this
fight against the Islamist that we understand that there are
people who want to destroy us for what it is
we believe and how we believe it, and as we
saw yesterday, who want to kill us for saying things
they disagree with. We have to win, and I am
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in many ways convinced the only way we win is together.
I'm glad you're here. The twenty fourth anniversary of September eleventh,
the assassination of Charlie Kirk. I'll make up some of
the regular program when We're usually doing a Thursday tomorrow everybody.
The Popcorn Moment the Marketplace brought to you by Indiana
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Unclaimed Doc Gov. I know they'll understand and I appreciate it.
Fill up on the news what we do with the
TK music moment. Will handle that tomorrow as well. Tony Katz,
ninety three WIBC, Good morning, Good to be with you.
The Dow futures are up seventy won. The Nasdaq futures
are up fifty six. Oil prices sixty two dollars and
eighty one cents on the West Texas crewed sixty six
(15:07):
dollars and sixty six cents. Well, that's not ominous on
the Brent crew. The ten year treasury four point zero zero.
We've been watching this. It did hit a low in
the early hours of three point nine ninety six. This
has been trending down. We're going to see if that continues.
(15:31):
Consumer prices rose at two point nine percent in August
wait two, annual rate of two point nine percent. Good lord,
I was about to lose my head. I will get
to all of that on Tony Katz today at noon.
Let me give you an update here. As we've been
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talking about September eleventh, As we've been talking about the
assassination of Charlie Kirk yesterday at Utah Valley Universe at
the age of thirty one, there's a I shared a
story first was brought to my attention by Indie Spanglish
if you know Jerry, who often fills in on WIBC.
(16:15):
He noted that the Bartholomew County Democratic Party had put
out a story about Charlie Kirk dying and they wrote,
violent delights have violent ends. Is what is wrong with you? Well,
they put out a statement afterwards because I had then
reposted and gave the hot tip to to Jerry too,
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to Indie Spanglish and said, hey, Indiana Democrats, why is
this happening with your party? Why are you posting this?
That post has since been taken down and they put
out a statement. Yesterday evening a post was shared on
our page regarding the horrific news of Charlie Kirk's passing.
I don't know if that was because of me or
because of Jerry, because of somebody else, but yes, it
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was shared. He spent a good deal of his time
advocating for the Second Amendment, even to the moment that
it took his life. Is this some kind of hey,
we're sorry the Second Amendment took his life? Are you
all insane? In trying to convey the tragedy of this?
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A quote was taken from a well known Shakespearean tragedy.
The quote comes from Romeo and Juliet. These violent delights
have violent ends, and in their triumph die like fire
and powder, which, as they kiss, consume. The sweetest honey
is lothsome in his own deliciousness, and in the taste,
confounds the appetite. Therefore, love moderately long, love doth so
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too swift, derives as tardy, as too slow. That's the quote.
So they say that they took this from Shakespeare. The
quote was a message given that's such a great passion
like this could result in a terrible end, as this
death was. It is obvious that our post was not
received in the way that it was meant, and we
are terribly sorry for the hurt that it caused. We
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do empathize greatly with those who have lost people to
gun violence and the pain that it brings, so we
removed our post and its reminders from our page. We
promise to be more mindful about our quote selections in
the future. As always, we do not condone gun violence
or violence of any nature. No matter what, you blamed
the Second Amendment, you blame support for the Second Amendment.
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I see that you're trying to cover for yourself ipso facto.
But the quote was obscene. It absolutely looked like you
were relishing the moment. And then you say he spent
a good deal of time advocating for the Second Amendment,
even to the moment that it took his life. That
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is not what happened. The Second Amendment did not take
his life. This is gross. A madman took his life,
whom we have not yet found as the manhunt continues. Honestly,
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if this is your attempt at apology, Bartholomew County Democrats,
I said it before, I'll say it again. At what
moment is every one of your leadership replaced. You don't
know how to do this, You don't know how to
be normal, nor do you understand what actually took place here.
Blaming the gun is nonsense. It has always been nonsense.
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Someone said Charlie Kirk shouldn't be allowed to speak and
shot him. That's what happened. We need to find you
did this. Someone said Donald Trump cannot be allowed to
be president and tried to kill him. It wasn't the gun.
It was the base a mail. Somebody said this healthcare
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CEO is unacceptable and killed him in broad daylight. And
it wasn't the gun. It was a radical, yes, indeed, progressive, communist,
socialist if you will, ideology period. You think we're not
gonna notice, you think we're not gonna say so, you
get to you think this is somehow ooh, our bad.
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It's an obscenity. It is obscene Indiana Democratic Party, this
is how you're seen, this is how you are viewed,
and this is why you don't win in Indiana. This
is why you can't win in Indiana. Good lord, it's
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it's just sick. You're just sick. That is it. That
is all the Democratic Party should be denouncing what Bartholomew
has now said for the second time. Time to change
people out, time to replace them. And if you can't
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do better, shut it down. Holy macro or if I
was only political, no, no, no, leave it up. Everybody should
see what you really are. Good gosh, Tony Katz ninety
three WIBC, Good morning. In the end, There's no good
way to do a show like today. There's absolutely none.
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There's no right recipe or right philosophy for how you
deal with the twenty fourth anniversary of September eleventh, and
be not yet twenty four hours removed from the assassination
of Charlie Kirk at the age of thirty one at
Utah Valley University, shot in the neck while speaking to
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a very large crowd. There is no suspecting custody right now.
Tony Katz in ninety three WIBC, Good Morning. There is
a manhunt. There are rumors, posts of things that may
have taken place, what kind of weapon utilized, what may
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have been scrawled on the cartridges. That's all right now
in the ether, that's all right now in the in
the unknown, it's nothing more than talk on social media.
As far as I'm concerned, there is no good way
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to handle a day like today. It doesn't exist. I
don't know. Was I supposed to talk more about other
things going on in the world. Was I supposed to
talk only about Charlie Kirk and nine to eleven? Was
I supposed to break into tears? Was I supposed to
cheer everybody up? I have absolutely no idea as with everything,
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you do the best that you can and how you
feel it should work. At the moment I had my
conversations with my kids, You're gonna have to have your
conversations with yours, and I'm not quite sure how you
do it. I put forth to you that honesty is everything.
I put forth to you that reminding people, that reminding
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your children that being free is always better than being enslaved,
that the Islamist is wrong and we are right, and
we have to win and they have to lose, because
if we win, everybody still gets to have independent thoughts
and independent minds. If they win, we all live in slavery.
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Reminds our kids that in the United States, we allow
people to say things even that we don't like. Free
speech does not exist for the speech or the person
that you like. It exists for the speech or the
people that you hate, because you may hate them, but
they also hate you, and they should have no ability,
no ability to keep you from speaking. And what happened
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to Charlie Kirk is obscene. And yet there are people
out there who believe that some should not be allowed
to speak. And there absolutely is the call to engage
this violence. We should also be clear that while I
absolutely believe and some people may disagree with this, that
words have meaning and people do get gend up to violence.
It is the responsibility of the person in question. Just
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because somebody is trying to rally somebody to doing something
doesn't mean that you have to do it. It's the
expression nobody believes the Khan more than the mark. When
you are the person saying, oh, I have to do this,
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you are the person being targeted to go do the thing,
and you are the one who can say I'm not
doing that. I disagree with the other side, I disagree
with these people. Well, it doesn't mean I'm going to
physically assault them, shoot them, stop them. Speaking out is
very different than going after your family. If they're shooting
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at you, that's different. If they're saying bad things about you, well,
that's social media. This is rough stuff. It is a
rough day, and it is going to be days of
this conversation. The parallels of September eleventh and what happened
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with Charlie Kirk and the idea that there are some
people who do not want this way of life and
we have to succeed, and they have to fail, and
we have to win and they have to lose. And
the only way we do this is together, because the
only way out is through. It's the only way out.
We're gonna have to see this through to the end.
There will be no light switch that is flipped and
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suddenly everyone says, oh, wait, we won't do that anymore. No, No,
it gets worse until it doesn't. You know the expression,
And to the extent that I believe it or I
work with it. Good times make weak men. Weak men
make hard times. Hard times make a tough men. Tough
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men make good times. That concept, these are the hard times.
People who don't believe in free speech, people who don't
believe in free thought, people who believe they should be
able to silence you. People who are so told that
they don't have to contain their own emotions that they
must act out upon them. It's okay to act out
upon them. And then the people who are so lost
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in their own souls, in their own minds that they
cheer the violence. That's what we're up against. And it's
us or them, and I choose us. And to the
people who have been kind enough to question my safety,
I'm not as popular as Charlie Kirk. I'm going about
living my life well, I see I do events differently.
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The answer is yes, and I already had before. But
are you gonna see me walking down the street? Absolutely?
Am I going to keep holding events? Absolutely clear your
calendars for January twentieth, and I may do another one
before that. No, not giving into these people, and neither
of you. I didn't know Charlie Kirk, but rest his soul,
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and I didn't know the people who died on September eleventh.
They're always in my soul, on my mind, and hopefully
yours as well. I'll catch at noon. I'm glad you
are here.
There is still a gunman on the loose. Tony Katz
ninety three WIBC, Good morning, Good to be with you.
Charlie Kirk, founder of Turning Point USA, dead at the
age of thirty one, assassinated at an event at Utah
Valley University, part of what he was calling his American
Comeback Tour, which was scheduled. As we were discussing it
(00:36):
yesterday and I had brought up doing stuff on college
campuses and someone said, you know, Charlie Kirk is coming
to IU. It was October part of his American Comeback Tour.
There was a suspect, a person of interest, they referred
to it yesterday in custody. That person has been released.
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They are right now engaged in a manhunt. I don't
know what it is they know. I don't know who
it is that they are looking for. I have absolutely
no idea where we go from here on this, but
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I can tell you that this will be the biggest
manhunt you ever saw. There is simply no way the
Trump administration, the Bondie Department of Justice, the Cash Hotel,
led FBI is going to not turn over every rock
to find who did this. A guy who you could
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see from videos to the video everywhere on the roof
of a building. Now, some people will tell you that
this was a professional hit without question, and then there
will be others who tell you I could have taught
a novice how to make this shot with a bolt
action rifle in ten minutes. I think that's an argument
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for others. I think the conversation for us is first
things first, we need to find who did this, and
we cannot allow ourselves to lose sight of the fact
that Charlie Kirk was killed because somebody didn't like what
he had to say. As a guy who's in the
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business of saying things, that is a very real moment.
I have not spoken with my counterparts here at WIBC,
nor have I spoken with any other radio counterparts. I
was supposed to record yesterday The UH We were going
to record, Eatdrink, Smoke, myself and Fingers Maloy and we
(02:56):
were like, yeah, we're not going to do that. Can't
We didn't have all the information regarding Charlie. He's like,
we do a cigar and bourbon show. How in the
world do you keep this light? How how are we
going to do that for the show that we're going
to have to record today. How just couldn't do it,
not until we had the information. I think everybody processes
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a little differently, and me, I didn't want anybody else's
thoughts in my head. But I was on Newsmax last
night discussing this, and there were two things. If I can,
I have no idea how other people are supposed to
process these things. I don't know how they're supposed to
explain to their kids like I had to, even though
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my kids are older, what happened then, what it means
for you, especially at least in our situation being in
this business. Certainly not as popular as Charlie Kirk, but
I do events two hundred and fifty people, not twenty
five hundred people. I'm getting there absolutely security. I've informed
my station that I do not show up to events
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where there is not security. And there has to be
a recognition that Charlie had security. It would not have
stopped the person who wants to do you harm. Our
issue are the people out there who don't believe that
we should be allowed to engage, who have been told repeatedly,
again and again and again and again that these people
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are authoritarians, and these people are Nazis, and these people
are this, and these people are that, and they are
our threat to you. There are indeed bad ideas in
the world. The reason you put them into the public
square is so you can find out exactly how bad
of an idea it is. We must be able to engage.
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The engagement of debate is indeed the civil society and
the basic concepts of civility in Toto. It is not
please and thank you, and it is not an acceptance
of somebody else's point of view, but rather allowing them
to engage it. There's the difference. I do not have
to accept it. I do not have to say I
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understand where you're coming from. I could be like, that's nutty, goodbye.
Civility is not acceptance. Civility is not terrorizing the minority
through a level of tyranny, nor allowing the minority to
threaten those people they disagree with with acts of violence.
(05:32):
Can't have a society that way. For all, the founding
fathers through the Federalist papers warned to faction here we are, I, well,
I do this. I don't think I'm any different than you.
How are you going to explain it to your kids?
How do you process this? What happens when you say
(05:54):
something on social media that someone doesn't like and you
know you have and you know you will. They have
to find who did this. We have to change the
mindset of people who think that because they disagree, they
are somehow entitled to do horrific things. We cannot have
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this society. We can't cannot survive like this. No society can.
And the more it delves into the madness, the more
the people who want to destroy Western civilization gain success.
Can't have it. What happened yesterday was flat out horrifying.
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The video is horrifying. The close up videos are so awful.
I cannot describe them. If you have seen them, you know,
and if you haven't seen them, maybe you're better off.
Maybe not. I leave that to you. But the murder,
the assassination of Charlie Kirk, was about saying, in every way,
(07:01):
and I don't know who did it, we are not
going to allow conversation to take place. That is the effect,
and the answer is yes we will. There is only
one answer. As for the people who want to push
the idea of well he deserved it, well his skirt
(07:22):
is too short, as they engaged on MSNBC. Well, this
is just gonna give Trump an excuse that he.
Speaker 2 (07:33):
Put out a four minute video, and I'm not going
to play the video. I don't want to play the video.
But there was a line at the end that I
think is I just wanted to raise and read. At
the end of this four minute video, he says, for years,
those on the radical left have compared wonderful Americans like
Charlie to Nazis in the world's most worst mass murders
and criminals. This kind of rhetoric is directly responsible for
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the terrorism that we're seeing in our country today, and
it must stop right now. And obviously there's a lot
of rhetoric that is problematic. A lot of it is
coming from one particular side and from one particular building.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
But what can be done?
Speaker 2 (08:09):
I fear when this is an escalation Already in less
than twenty four hours of this shooting.
Speaker 1 (08:17):
The recognition of things that are said is an escalation. No,
it's honesty, But this is from a network that engaged
in some horrible stuff in the moments after Charlie Kirk
was killed. He was thirty one, He had a wife,
(08:38):
he had two small children and a future in front
of him and a lot of people who were listening.
He didn't deserve this. I didn't know him. I think
I met him once. I didn't know. He didn't deserve this.
The killer has to be found and we have to
(09:00):
keep talking. There are other things happening in the news,
like Poland mobilizing. Tony Katz ninety three WIBC, Good morning,
good to be with you. It was Russia that engaged
a drone strike against the Poles. Nineteen Russian military drones,
some being launched from Belarus, entered Polish airspace. This over
(09:25):
the last two days, Poland mobilizing drones were intercepted by
Polish F sixteen, supported by the Dutch, and they're now
saying that they're going Article four, which is, hey, everybody,
(09:46):
we are we're being attacked by Russia and we're a
NATO nation, so you might want to gear up for
Article five. Article four is about consultations, like, excuse me, everyone,
if I can get everyone together here, this is happening.
Gear up, get ready, gird the loins. This is coming.
(10:11):
Article five means an attack on one is an attack
on all. Is Russia purposefully raising the temperature. Absolutely they
are It is unquestionable that this is exactly what they're
doing in an effort to what well will stop as
long as we get this land, which is why we're
(10:34):
hearing about Ukraine saying we don't have the ability to
keep up these defenses much longer, because the United States
is sending less and less materials to get what of
Vladimir's line is going to say, Okay, we'll give up
this and this, just make this stop. Pressure being applied
to make deals, Russia applying pressure to get a better deal.
(10:55):
The Poles are not going to take this. They're not.
They've lived under communism, they live through the Nazis. They
ain't doing this, and if they have to fight, they're
going to fight to the last man. Europe better gear up.
This is happening. But as we sit here on the
twenty fourth anniversary of September eleventh, we take the time
(11:20):
to remember because we don't have options, We do not
have any option but to spend our time discussing what
it is that took place, remembering what it is that happened,
that the three thousand of our countrymen were killed by
(11:42):
Islamists for five six, eight six, five times we have
i believe it is a Bolling seven to fifty seven.
Can you see him up there? Or that's occur It
looks like his rocketers Winker brother forth we're five sixty
eight six five by five. As you say, wait for
bet aircraft going north and United.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
Have you got information on that yet?
Speaker 1 (12:03):
You won? Yes?
Speaker 2 (12:05):
Why did you land?
Speaker 1 (12:06):
You did not land? Ye? Northeaster Camp, David, that's Shanksville.
And as I've discussed before, Todd Beemer and everybody who
stormed the cockpit to prevent that plane from crashing into
(12:27):
the White House or the Capitol or onto me as
I stood there on the corner of Ninth and E
where I was working as a restaurant manager, they saved
my life. I believe this every single day. There is
not a day that has gone by in twenty four years.
I haven't thought about it. Somehow that it hasn't come
(12:48):
into my mind. Something some thought, some fleeting that if
it wasn't for them, that plane crashes. I mentioned myself
working downtown DC. My wife was a teacher in Maryland
(13:09):
and the kids their parents worked at the Pentagon. My
wife watched kids trying to get in touch with their
parents who worked at the Pentagon, after seeing it, after
hearing about this attack, and not knowing whether their parents
were alive or dead. We each went through our things,
(13:33):
and we didn't go through anything compared to what others
went through. Everything about September eleventh is ugly, and everything
has to be remembered, and it has to be discussed,
and it has to be shared. Some of the worst things,
the worst videos, the worst commentaries, the worst phone calls,
the most heart wrenching phone calls, they all have to
be shared today with your loved ones. They have to remember,
(13:56):
they have to know that had happened. How else can
we ensure that it doesn't again, That we win this
fight against the Islamist that we understand that there are
people who want to destroy us for what it is
we believe and how we believe it, and as we
saw yesterday, who want to kill us for saying things
they disagree with. We have to win, and I am
(14:22):
in many ways convinced the only way we win is together.
I'm glad you're here. The twenty fourth anniversary of September eleventh,
the assassination of Charlie Kirk. I'll make up some of
the regular program when We're usually doing a Thursday tomorrow everybody.
The Popcorn Moment the Marketplace brought to you by Indiana
(14:45):
Unclaimed Doc Gov. I know they'll understand and I appreciate it.
Fill up on the news what we do with the
TK music moment. Will handle that tomorrow as well. Tony Katz,
ninety three WIBC, Good morning, Good to be with you.
The Dow futures are up seventy won. The Nasdaq futures
are up fifty six. Oil prices sixty two dollars and
eighty one cents on the West Texas crewed sixty six
(15:07):
dollars and sixty six cents. Well, that's not ominous on
the Brent crew. The ten year treasury four point zero zero.
We've been watching this. It did hit a low in
the early hours of three point nine ninety six. This
has been trending down. We're going to see if that continues.
(15:31):
Consumer prices rose at two point nine percent in August
wait two, annual rate of two point nine percent. Good lord,
I was about to lose my head. I will get
to all of that on Tony Katz today at noon.
Let me give you an update here. As we've been
(15:53):
talking about September eleventh, As we've been talking about the
assassination of Charlie Kirk yesterday at Utah Valley Universe at
the age of thirty one, there's a I shared a
story first was brought to my attention by Indie Spanglish
if you know Jerry, who often fills in on WIBC.
(16:15):
He noted that the Bartholomew County Democratic Party had put
out a story about Charlie Kirk dying and they wrote,
violent delights have violent ends. Is what is wrong with you? Well,
they put out a statement afterwards because I had then
reposted and gave the hot tip to to Jerry too,
(16:38):
to Indie Spanglish and said, hey, Indiana Democrats, why is
this happening with your party? Why are you posting this?
That post has since been taken down and they put
out a statement. Yesterday evening a post was shared on
our page regarding the horrific news of Charlie Kirk's passing.
I don't know if that was because of me or
because of Jerry, because of somebody else, but yes, it
(16:59):
was shared. He spent a good deal of his time
advocating for the Second Amendment, even to the moment that
it took his life. Is this some kind of hey,
we're sorry the Second Amendment took his life? Are you
all insane? In trying to convey the tragedy of this?
(17:25):
A quote was taken from a well known Shakespearean tragedy.
The quote comes from Romeo and Juliet. These violent delights
have violent ends, and in their triumph die like fire
and powder, which, as they kiss, consume. The sweetest honey
is lothsome in his own deliciousness, and in the taste,
confounds the appetite. Therefore, love moderately long, love doth so
(17:48):
too swift, derives as tardy, as too slow. That's the quote.
So they say that they took this from Shakespeare. The
quote was a message given that's such a great passion
like this could result in a terrible end, as this
death was. It is obvious that our post was not
received in the way that it was meant, and we
are terribly sorry for the hurt that it caused. We
(18:10):
do empathize greatly with those who have lost people to
gun violence and the pain that it brings, so we
removed our post and its reminders from our page. We
promise to be more mindful about our quote selections in
the future. As always, we do not condone gun violence
or violence of any nature. No matter what, you blamed
the Second Amendment, you blame support for the Second Amendment.
(18:32):
I see that you're trying to cover for yourself ipso facto.
But the quote was obscene. It absolutely looked like you
were relishing the moment. And then you say he spent
a good deal of time advocating for the Second Amendment,
even to the moment that it took his life. That
(18:54):
is not what happened. The Second Amendment did not take
his life. This is gross. A madman took his life,
whom we have not yet found as the manhunt continues. Honestly,
(19:16):
if this is your attempt at apology, Bartholomew County Democrats,
I said it before, I'll say it again. At what
moment is every one of your leadership replaced. You don't
know how to do this, You don't know how to
be normal, nor do you understand what actually took place here.
Blaming the gun is nonsense. It has always been nonsense.
(19:39):
Someone said Charlie Kirk shouldn't be allowed to speak and
shot him. That's what happened. We need to find you
did this. Someone said Donald Trump cannot be allowed to
be president and tried to kill him. It wasn't the gun.
It was the base a mail. Somebody said this healthcare
(20:05):
CEO is unacceptable and killed him in broad daylight. And
it wasn't the gun. It was a radical, yes, indeed, progressive, communist,
socialist if you will, ideology period. You think we're not
gonna notice, you think we're not gonna say so, you
get to you think this is somehow ooh, our bad.
(20:27):
It's an obscenity. It is obscene Indiana Democratic Party, this
is how you're seen, this is how you are viewed,
and this is why you don't win in Indiana. This
is why you can't win in Indiana. Good lord, it's
(20:48):
it's just sick. You're just sick. That is it. That
is all the Democratic Party should be denouncing what Bartholomew
has now said for the second time. Time to change
people out, time to replace them. And if you can't
(21:12):
do better, shut it down. Holy macro or if I
was only political, no, no, no, leave it up. Everybody should
see what you really are. Good gosh, Tony Katz ninety
three WIBC, Good morning. In the end, There's no good
way to do a show like today. There's absolutely none.
(21:37):
There's no right recipe or right philosophy for how you
deal with the twenty fourth anniversary of September eleventh, and
be not yet twenty four hours removed from the assassination
of Charlie Kirk at the age of thirty one at
Utah Valley University, shot in the neck while speaking to
(21:58):
a very large crowd. There is no suspecting custody right now.
Tony Katz in ninety three WIBC, Good Morning. There is
a manhunt. There are rumors, posts of things that may
have taken place, what kind of weapon utilized, what may
(22:20):
have been scrawled on the cartridges. That's all right now
in the ether, that's all right now in the in
the unknown, it's nothing more than talk on social media.
As far as I'm concerned, there is no good way
(22:40):
to handle a day like today. It doesn't exist. I
don't know. Was I supposed to talk more about other
things going on in the world. Was I supposed to
talk only about Charlie Kirk and nine to eleven? Was
I supposed to break into tears? Was I supposed to
cheer everybody up? I have absolutely no idea as with everything,
(23:03):
you do the best that you can and how you
feel it should work. At the moment I had my
conversations with my kids, You're gonna have to have your
conversations with yours, and I'm not quite sure how you
do it. I put forth to you that honesty is everything.
I put forth to you that reminding people, that reminding
(23:23):
your children that being free is always better than being enslaved,
that the Islamist is wrong and we are right, and
we have to win and they have to lose, because
if we win, everybody still gets to have independent thoughts
and independent minds. If they win, we all live in slavery.
(23:43):
Reminds our kids that in the United States, we allow
people to say things even that we don't like. Free
speech does not exist for the speech or the person
that you like. It exists for the speech or the
people that you hate, because you may hate them, but
they also hate you, and they should have no ability,
no ability to keep you from speaking. And what happened
(24:04):
to Charlie Kirk is obscene. And yet there are people
out there who believe that some should not be allowed
to speak. And there absolutely is the call to engage
this violence. We should also be clear that while I
absolutely believe and some people may disagree with this, that
words have meaning and people do get gend up to violence.
It is the responsibility of the person in question. Just
(24:29):
because somebody is trying to rally somebody to doing something
doesn't mean that you have to do it. It's the
expression nobody believes the Khan more than the mark. When
you are the person saying, oh, I have to do this,
(24:49):
you are the person being targeted to go do the thing,
and you are the one who can say I'm not
doing that. I disagree with the other side, I disagree
with these people. Well, it doesn't mean I'm going to
physically assault them, shoot them, stop them. Speaking out is
very different than going after your family. If they're shooting
(25:13):
at you, that's different. If they're saying bad things about you, well,
that's social media. This is rough stuff. It is a
rough day, and it is going to be days of
this conversation. The parallels of September eleventh and what happened
(25:33):
with Charlie Kirk and the idea that there are some
people who do not want this way of life and
we have to succeed, and they have to fail, and
we have to win and they have to lose. And
the only way we do this is together, because the
only way out is through. It's the only way out.
We're gonna have to see this through to the end.
There will be no light switch that is flipped and
(25:55):
suddenly everyone says, oh, wait, we won't do that anymore. No, No,
it gets worse until it doesn't. You know the expression,
And to the extent that I believe it or I
work with it. Good times make weak men. Weak men
make hard times. Hard times make a tough men. Tough
(26:16):
men make good times. That concept, these are the hard times.
People who don't believe in free speech, people who don't
believe in free thought, people who believe they should be
able to silence you. People who are so told that
they don't have to contain their own emotions that they
must act out upon them. It's okay to act out
upon them. And then the people who are so lost
(26:39):
in their own souls, in their own minds that they
cheer the violence. That's what we're up against. And it's
us or them, and I choose us. And to the
people who have been kind enough to question my safety,
I'm not as popular as Charlie Kirk. I'm going about
living my life well, I see I do events differently.
(27:01):
The answer is yes, and I already had before. But
are you gonna see me walking down the street? Absolutely?
Am I going to keep holding events? Absolutely clear your
calendars for January twentieth, and I may do another one
before that. No, not giving into these people, and neither
of you. I didn't know Charlie Kirk, but rest his soul,
(27:25):
and I didn't know the people who died on September eleventh.
They're always in my soul, on my mind, and hopefully
yours as well. I'll catch at noon. I'm glad you
are here.
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