Tony Katz and the Morning News Full Show 9-15-25

Capehart: "I Am Very Concerned" About What The Reaction To Charlie Kirk's Assassination Will Be. Jemele Hill of The Atlantic goes on a defamatory rant and falsely accuses Charlie Kirk of being a white supremacist. Shutdown coming. Who cares? Ukranian drones hit Russian oil refinery. Israel hits more Hamas operatives. What is coming to Costco? IU students honoring the life of Charlie Kirk. Hannah Einbinder says "Free Palestine" in her Emmys acceptance speech. Colts pull it off with game winning field goal! Pete Buttigieg continues to prove himself untrustworthy and power hungry. Bob Hammel IU Championship Ring. Indy Spanglish getting threats. Hoosier Leadership for America gathering this weekend. City to consider $18M bailout loan to keep delayed Gold Building redevelopment afloat. When is I-69 going to be finished? Tik Tok deal to be announced? Trump needs to call out the New York Times as NOT the paper of record.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:11):
And here we are, yet again.

Speaker 2 (00:30):
In a situation where we're talking about an incident of
gun violence, but because of who the victim was, just
in terms of our politics, but also who he was
in terms of the President and this administration. This is
one thing that I have to factor into my thinking
about all this when I look at the reaction from

(00:52):
the President and his administration, that this justn't this wasn't
just the murder of someone who who was a like
minded person. This was family to them, And I try
to keep that in mind as I watch the reaction.
But I have to tell you, I am very concerned

(01:14):
about what that reaction is going to be in the
days and weeks and months ahead.

Speaker 3 (01:20):
That's Jonathan k Part. He's more concerned with the reaction
to the assassination of Charlie Kirk then the fact that
the reaction to Charlie Kirk was to assassinate him. The
Left is a very weird group of people who can't
stay on task. To Star Wars, the thing can't stay

(01:45):
on target. Tony Katz ninety three WIBC, Good morning, Good
to be with you. And we're not talking about gun violence,
that's mythology. We're talking about radicalized people who cannot control
their emotions to believe that they have some kind of
from on high destiny to fulfill because they've been radicalized.

(02:07):
We all understand what we're up against, and it is
we who are up against it, and it is still
in greater measure they who are fine with it. Stinks
to have to otherise in such a way, to have
to say it's us versus them, but it is. It
is the suspect in the assassination of Charlie Kirk not

(02:31):
cooperating with police. The conversation about him having a transgender boyfriend,
a man who claims to be a woman. That is
also true. It is true that he came from a
home that you may have come from and he was radicalized. Well,

(02:57):
how else do you think this happens? Do you think
just because somebody comes from a good home, feel the air,
quote say, standard home, or as the lapt would want
to put it, a lily white home. Oh you don't
think there's a racial component to what it is that
we're seeing? Did you not hear everybody's favorite Let me

(03:23):
make it racial, Jamel Hill, Let me make it racial
commentator Jamel Hill.

Speaker 4 (03:28):
Suspect has been identified as Tyler Robinson, twenty two years old.
And of course, as you all know, in the wake
of Charlie's murder, there was an incredible amount of angry
discourse from the right, blaming the Democrats, blaming liberals, saying

(03:52):
you're the reason this happened. Only to find out, surprise,
twenty two year old white dude.

Speaker 3 (03:59):
Love guns, raised.

Speaker 4 (04:02):
By two parents, lived in a good home. Dad as
a minister, also a share of.

Speaker 3 (04:09):
Only proves that anybody can be radicalized. But what is
wrong with you? I don't think there's anybody who even
questioned that the shooter would be white. But I also
don't think anybody even cared. They wanted to know who
it was. And I think the focus is the assassination.

(04:31):
But she's just thrilled it wasn't somebody who was black.
Way to be the American They not like us. There's
a lot of division, a lot of happy people, a
lot of awful people, and the only question is what
do we do about it? I argue the only way
out is through. I had this conversation over the weekend

(04:54):
at Who's your Leadership for America? A summit they're put
on by Senator Jim Banks, A pleasure to speak at
It wasn't a pleasure to see Diego Morales at it.
But neither here nor there. Oh yeah, you can't. I
get that. If these events, you're opening it up, you're
allowing people to come by and say hello, and you're
being supportive of your team. He shouldn't be on your team, guys,

(05:17):
he just shouldn't. We can do so much better. Let's
go do so much better and still win. No, I
didn't speak to him. I didn't. It wasn't my event.
This wasn't on a street corner or anywhere. He gave
me a wide berth, and I gave him a wide berth.
But if I see people cheering Diego Morales, I gotta

(05:38):
just look at them askew and say what exactly are
you doing? When I see people saying, hey, it was
a white guy that killed Charlie kirk Woo, I gotta
look at you and say, what the heck are you doing?
People still follow Jamel Hill at your own risk, but
she is emblematic of a lot of people you see

(05:59):
in on social media. How do we deal with this?
What do we know? What next is coming? What will
be all the charges? How will Utah react and respond,
what is going to happen federally? And how do we
not get two over our skis? I have got all
of that coming up. Tony Katz, ninety three, WIBC, good morning.

(06:21):
Shutdown coming, But we always hear about shutdowns. I don't
know what to tell you. If you want to shut
down the federal government, go ahead, Tony. People are gonna
get paid. Yeah, I know, but it beats the living
hack kut of being concerned about it. We've been through this.
We've all been through this so very, very very often.

(06:44):
Tony Katz, ninety three, WIBC, Good morning. Democratic leaders are
not going to support a continuing resolution or of any
kind until certain healthcare provisions are met. They want an
extension of Affordable Care Act tax credits. How about we
get rid of Obamacare for good? It failed. We all

(07:09):
know it. We don't have to pretend otherwise. What are
you holding on to the belief that somehow you can
convince Americans they're trying to take away your healthcare? Yeah,
we've heard all of this. You guys are boring. You
have a much better chance if you talk about Tariff's
not working. You're saving our health care for us yeah,

(07:30):
we're we're not in for that. And while this is
just being discussed, you've got the Ukrainians hitting Russia with
drones at an oil refinery. Seems nobody wanted de escalation
of any kind. And the people who are saying, Tony,
I've been telling you, let these people fight it out.

(07:52):
What do we care? I mean, this is to their
argument they won't stop. Trump sat down on them. Trump tried,
they won't listen. This is who they are. They want
to hurt each other.

Speaker 1 (08:12):
So let them.

Speaker 5 (08:15):
They bought their tickets, they knew what they were getting into.

Speaker 3 (08:20):
I say, let them crash. This is what brings President
Trump to looking at NATO and saying I will if
you will. Basically, you show me mine, I'll show you yours.
You show me yours, and I'll show you mine. That's it.
That's how it's supposed to be. So you've got these
this drone strike on what's known as the Kureshi refinery.

(08:43):
This is northwestern Leningrad. They've already been attacks on the
oil infrastructure going on in Russia because well Kiev, Ukraine
is trying to stop the Russian war machine from killing
more of their people. This is not about what you

(09:06):
think of Vladimirzelenski. I don't actually care. I believe in
thwarting Russian aggression. I still think, after all this time,
that's the right move. I don't believe in doing it
with American blood. I believe that we should be supportive
of NATO putting in the force because we've already been

(09:29):
told that it's gonna happen without American forces. They're just
gonna buy American hardware. I like selling hardware. Go ahead,
or you can convince people that we shouldn't care at all.
It's gonna be a lot of dead people. We care
about innocent life. We don't care about innocent life. I'll
leave that to others too to figure out, because in

(09:51):
this situation, the Ukrainians are the innocent life in Hamas,
the Israelis are the innocent life. You see how I
did that? Oh yeah, you could scream and yell, you
could post whatever you want. Hambas started the war, Hams
can end the war. They don't choose to end the war. Awful,

(10:11):
horrible things happen, and I can see that they are
awful and horrible. But it doesn't matter to me what
some loser at the Emmys is screaming. F Hannah Einbinder.
It ends when Hamas ends, that's it. The Israelis have said,
so nothing I could do about that. That's just the
way it is. But the people supporting terrorists super ugly,

(10:34):
super weird. For the people in Indianapolis doing that, you're gross.
You know you're gross. We all know you're gross. Thanks
for letting us know. So what Trump is saying to
his European counterparts is I would like to be moving
forward on these higher level sanctions, but you have to

(10:56):
stop buying oil from these people. They have to do
it well, they're not doing the jump.

Speaker 6 (11:02):
NATO has to get together, Europe has to get together
and do Look Europe, is that, my friends, But they're
buying oil from Russia.

Speaker 3 (11:10):
So we can't be expected to.

Speaker 6 (11:12):
Be the only ones that are full four.

Speaker 3 (11:15):
But Europe is buying oil from Russia. I don't want
them to buy oil.

Speaker 6 (11:20):
And these sanctions that are putting that they're putting on
are not tough enough.

Speaker 7 (11:24):
And I'm willing to.

Speaker 6 (11:25):
Do sanctions, but they're going to have to tough enough
their sanctions commensurate with what I'm doing.

Speaker 7 (11:30):
Put you to clarify, you wouldn't move the head Tomato
in there.

Speaker 6 (11:33):
Well, I'm ready to move ahead, but they have to
do it.

Speaker 5 (11:36):
I think they will.

Speaker 6 (11:37):
But right now they're talking and they're not doing they Look.

Speaker 3 (11:40):
They're buying oil from Russia.

Speaker 6 (11:43):
We're not buying oil from Russia. They're buying a lot
of oil from Russia. That's not the deal.

Speaker 3 (11:49):
So let's see what they do. Trump's sitting as you know,
NATO's commitment to wins in far less than one hundred
percent in the purchase of Russian oil by some has
been shocking greatly. Weakens negotiating position and bargaining power over Russia. Anyway,
I'm ready to go when you are, just say when.
That's what he wrote on Truth Social you have speaker

(12:13):
Mike Johnson saying that he's absolutely ready for sanctions.

Speaker 8 (12:19):
When Lindsey Graham, Republican of South Carolina says, as he
did this weekend, now is the time for Russia sanctions.
President Trump opened the door on terrace against India and
China as a way to create economic leverage to end
the war in Ukraine.

Speaker 3 (12:33):
Where do you stand on all that?

Speaker 9 (12:37):
Well, listen, I do believe that desperate times called for
desperate measures, and I think appropriate sanctions on Russia are
for overdue. I mean, I think there's a big appetite
for that in Congress. So we're willing to work with
the White House and our Senate colleagues in the House
to get that done, and I'm anxious to do it personally.

Speaker 8 (12:54):
Are you waiting for the President to give you the
green light or Mike, Congress act.

Speaker 3 (12:58):
On this on its own volition.

Speaker 9 (13:02):
Well, Congress really can't do this on its own volition
because of course the President would need to sign whatever
we do into law, so it has to be a partnership.
But we've deferred to the commander in chief. I mean,
the President is a strong and bold leader on the
world stage. He has broken peace around the world in
other conflicts in a way that no one before him
has been able to do. And so we're trusting that
he can use that same force and that same approach

(13:25):
to bring about finally an end to this war in Ukraine.

Speaker 3 (13:28):
Everyone, he's already told you what he wants, So go
bring on the sanctions. Do I think it brings Russia
to heel? No, I don't. I don't. Economically. Starving them
is the only thing I've ever really been interested in,
but they still think they've got an upper hand here,

(13:50):
and I don't think that goes away so quickly. I
did not watch the Emmy Awards. It's not that I
oppose watching the Emmy Awards. I think that culture and
we should be aware of what's going on. And if
you say to me, I don't watch TV, I don't
watch movies, I don't watch sports, it's a pretty pathetic
life if you ask me. Tony Katz ninety three WIBC,

(14:13):
good morning. And I must admit if you're not, your
kids are, and are you aware of what it is
they're watching. I think of anything the last six days
have taught us. Five days have taught us is that
we need to be more culturally aware of what's going
on than ever because when we're not well, that's when
bad things happen. And I think there's a much larger

(14:36):
conversation about how one deals with their kids than ever before,
including the idea of just getting along even if there's
political disagreement, there's still your children and just take it. No, no, no,
I believe all that is over. I have for a
while now, and I've discussed it. I will dig in

(14:57):
greatly and I will get into the Emmys coming up
in just a moment. An embarrassing sight, Jabier bardem this
kind of i'mbinder. These people are horrifying and shamefully self hated.
But we'll get to that in just a moment. First,
I bring you Costco, which if they want to make

(15:20):
everybody happy, they will just bring back the onion gun
and everything will be okay. But they are not, at
least as far as I know. But there are changes coming.
You will now be able to get at Costco chicken
and waffles. Thank you, thank you very much. Great a

(15:46):
chicken thighs, a organic maple syrup, all butter, Belgian waffles,
and hot honey. See see you don't need the hot honey.
I mean, don't get me wrong. Hot honey is fine,
but not necessary. If I have Belgian waffles, chicken thighs,
and I have organic maple syrup, I'm good. I am good.

(16:07):
And you can get the chicken and waffles four piece
at about eighteen dollars a container. And that means you
can get one portion for four dollars and fifty cents.
This is happening. The strawberry nurry protein shake. What is
a nurry Matt Bear. We go now to protein correspondent

(16:28):
Matt Bear, and you are ur I what is nurry?

Speaker 1 (16:32):
Do you know?

Speaker 3 (16:34):
No, yes, you can't be the guy who plays crickets producer, Carl.
You can't know. That's that's my job to play crickets.
See that. That's how professional does it? I do not
know what this is, but a twelve pack of the

(16:55):
shakes is twenty dollars and sixty nine cents, thirty grams
of protein, one of sugar. All I don't know is
it good? It's a strawberry. It's a strawberry protein shake.
I don't want I don't want to bag on it.
What if they become sponsors? I just don't know if
it's good. Not sure. Then there is Dittman's Balsonic Balsamic

(17:17):
Vinegar Pearls. They're balsamic vinegar flavored tapioca pearls, kind of
like a little savory boba, a vegetarian caviare if you will.

Speaker 1 (17:39):
Yeah, well you know that's just like.

Speaker 3 (17:43):
Your opinion. Man. They can't all be winners. They can't.
And yeah, you can't get me to buy into that one.
New things are coming, try them, check them out. Let
us know what you think. Tony Katz ninety three w IBC,
Good morning. It's happy to see that people gathered out

(18:06):
for a vigil for Charlie Kirk and IU. Just peacefully
assembling is the way, and being willing to do it
in a climate where you know that things can go
bad is always the right thing to do, which is
really the story the amount of people who have reached

(18:29):
out to me to ask if I'm okay? Am I
all right? Am I safe? First of all, Tony Katz
ninety three WIBC, good morning, And secondly, thank you. It's
outrageously kind of you. I incredibly appreciate it. Yeah, certainly,
there's nobody who I would argue who is in this

(18:50):
line of work who isn't aware. But as I made
the argument on Friday, and I made the argument in
the video that I post did, we're all in the
same boat. Someone's going to get angry at the thing
you post on social media and decide you're a threat
and not be able to control their emotions and being

(19:10):
radicalized out to you have to do something to save
democracy or whatever it is they claim, people will do
bad things, and that is certainly what took place with
Charlie Kirk. He was assassinated. It was political terrorism, and
we know that this guy had been radicalized. Yah, he

(19:31):
came from such a nice home and radicalized. Yes, has
the trans boyfriend or is it trans girlfriend? I can't
keep up. And there's a whole weird conversation about whether

(19:52):
or not there's a conspiracy at play, because maybe some
online groups knew in advance what was happening, but this
could be initial reporting and not necessarily the full argument.
So I'll I'll give that some wait and see a

(20:14):
lot of social media posts that are out there. That's
not the story. I was just happy to see this
over at IU. I did not know it was happening.
And it's funny. I looked up the IU Republicans and
the only thing I found was on Facebook in the
last post was March. So I'm like that, that can't

(20:36):
be right. That can't be right. And then I looked
on on Twitter xit I didn't find anything. Like I
must be in the wrong spots. I gotta I gotta
find where the right spots are. And again, as I
said to IU Indianapolis, I would say to you, I'd
say to Padue, I'd say to Ball state. I'd say
to Marion anybody else, whatever we could do to be
of service, you just let us know. Free speech matters.

(20:57):
We're in We're with you, we're support It is free
speech that I guess. Let actress Hannah Einbinder from the
show Hacks, after receiving an Emmy, take to the microphone
to support the Philadelphia Eagles because I guess she's an

(21:18):
Eagles fan. Then say f ICE, meaning immigrations and customs
enforcement and free Palestine, and then she goes to the
media to discuss how she has friends in Gaza right now, Well, well,
Israelis have twelve hundred people murdered, and I think they
may see it differently than you. But the joy in

(21:40):
which these people like, they have no concerns for their career,
no concerns for their career at all. Well, free speech
allows absolutely awful people to say awful things. But we
should note that Hannah Eroinmbinder is not somebody that you
should emulate. Guys, do not let your sons date anybody

(22:00):
like Hannah Einbinder, do not marry anybody like Hannah Einbinder.
And you're like Tony, who the hell is Hannah Einbinder.
This is my point. There's a lot of women like
Hannah Einbinder. She is actually the daughter of former of
the original cast member Saturday Night Live, Lorae Newman. That's
how I know the story. That's who Hannah Einbinder is.

(22:29):
She's an actress, Yes, I have that, absolutely correct. And
she wants to say things like free Palestine. You want
me to get into a conversation about self hating Jews,
Good lord, we'll be here all week. You think this

(22:49):
is somebody who's bringing us her best right, You think
she really cares more than you, because that's what she'll
tell you. She's so caring, it's so personal to her. Yeah,
it's personal to me to thwart terrorism where it is
and destroy the terrorists until the terrorists are dead. It is.
It is personal to me that the free and thinking
people of the world win and the terrorists who want

(23:12):
to send us back to the dark ages lose, and
the war ends, as the Israelis have said, when all
the hostages are returned. But she didn't say that. She
didn't call for the hostages to be returned. She called
for free Palestine, which is the destruction of Israel, which
will be the destruction of her. But she isn't bright
enough to know it. She's on the side of terrorists.

(23:33):
How possibly could she be bright? I mean, she can
still turn it all around, but I'm not expecting that
to happen. When you are of such a progressive mindset
so broken, it takes a while to shake that off
of you. Do not let your children grow up to

(23:55):
be like Hannah Einenbinder. That's her last name, Eynbinder. Do
not let them eight someone like Hannah Einenbinder. Do not
let them marry someone like Hanna Einbinder. And if you
say to me, how am I supposed to stop my
kids from doing so? Ah, that's coming up. There ain't

(24:24):
nothing wrong with luck kids, nothing wrong with it at all.
Tony Katz ninety three WIBC. Good morning, because that's what
it took for the Colts to beat the Broncos twenty
nine to twenty eight at home yesterday afternoon. But there
are some great stories out of this game, and the

(24:45):
defense is just not one of them. JMV joined us
right now. He is the voice of Sports in Indiana
ninety three five one A seven to five of the
Fan twenty nine, twenty eight last second field goal that
only gets a retry because of a very very odd
penalty from the Denver Broncos leveraging which was trying to
stock themselves on top of the long snapper in order

(25:07):
to be able to block the field goal. Fifteen yards
instead of a sixty yard field goal that was missed.
It's a forty five year, forty five yard field goal
boop right down the middle. JMV. Let's talk about this game,
but first I'm going to take you to the defensive
side of the ball. Lou Anumo's defense got carved up
by the second year quarterback bow Nicks. What is it

(25:30):
that you saw, Well, here's what I saw.

Speaker 5 (25:32):
I saw that. A lot of Bengals fans, if you
took it in those highlights or washing any of that game,
probably notice that, you know, without Leatu Latu, without Mooney Ward,
that's kind of what you got in Cincinnati, when lou
Anriumo didn't have his stars or his players.

Speaker 3 (25:47):
It looked like that.

Speaker 5 (25:49):
The latter years looked like that at Cincinnati. So I
guess Tony, what we were talking about at week number
one was just refreshing. It was great, and then week
number two, it wasn't so much they give up so
much on the ground, which was concerning, and it almost
gave you that Gus Bradley feeling of all right, are

(26:10):
they switching anything up? Because really there was not a
lot against the run that was working whatsoever. It was
a huge contrast in what we saw in week number one.
And you know, you hope that it was missing some
players and those players get back and that'll be great,
you hope. That's just not kind of why the Bengals
decided to move forward and go a different direction from

(26:30):
Antarumo in the first place. Because Tony, we talked about
this last week. It was such a good feeling, and
then after yesterday with the win, it was a great feeling,
but the defense just did not feel at all the
same because as we.

Speaker 3 (26:41):
Watched it was what was a great feeling was Jonathan
Taylor one hundred and sixty five yards on the ground,
averaging six point six a carry, fifty through the air
including the touchdown. Is this Jonthan Taylor or was this
the offensive line finding a rhythm.

Speaker 5 (27:00):
I thought Jonathan Taylor was really good. I mean, he
had a huge run. They got him close to the touchdown.
Tony what problem I thought that the Colts had that
they're going to have to deal with that. I don't
know if anybody's talking about his bread zone opportunities, way
way too many settle for field goals, way too many
of those, Tony, You're not gonna last. You will not

(27:20):
last the rest of the season doing that. So something's
going to have to change there. But yeah, Jonathan Taylor
was really good. Honestly, there were a couple of times,
how about Shane was kind of backwards down the stretch there,
Shane played for that long field goal, which we were
going to absolutely be all over about had they lost
and not been given that due over opportunity yesterday. And

(27:44):
then you look at those fourth down calls to where,
for example, you go with your rookie tied in when
you have Jonathan Taylor, just get a weird some of
the play calling. I know, when it works, we celebrate it.
When it doesn't, we're all over it. But there are
a couple of opportunities where I thought Shan Steik could
have been better in play calling. Oh, you are down

(28:04):
the stretch and he got lucky.

Speaker 3 (28:06):
You are jumping the gun. I'm gonna get to all
that let's let's let me drive the ship boo boo
for a second. We'll get doing those things. Talking to
JMV the voice of Sports in Indiana. Let's bring it
over to Daniel Jones, who I argue, again clearly the
right choice. Twenty three of thirty four, three hundred and
sixteen yards the touchdown. You're right about that red zone conversation.

(28:30):
You're right that we're not scoring enough. I think he
seemed to be frustrated by it, which is something I
actually like to see. But in an overall sense of play, calm, cool, collected,
hitting his stride, hitting the players, the long bolts of Warren,
long ballts of Pierce, the guys over the middle, which
I'd like to see some more of. He's got this
team and they seem to believe in him.

Speaker 7 (28:52):
Tony.

Speaker 5 (28:52):
He's been as good as anybody at quarterback of the
NFL to the first two weeks of the season. Nobody's
hand to go over any awards and the first two weeks,
but I would challenge you to look up guys that
at that position a quarterback have performed better, and certainly
given the circumstances of what people thought, what was the
prevailing of the prevailing opinion about Daniel Jones going in

(29:14):
incredible what he has done. That's one thing Shane Steichen
has been accurate about. That's exactly what he wanted in
a quarterback, and that's why that Daniel Jones was shows.
The other aspect about it is I think you've seen
him go down the field and be a lot more
tony of what we thought he wasn't going to be

(29:35):
in these first two games. That's been the most impressive to.

Speaker 1 (29:39):
Me so far.

Speaker 5 (29:40):
And he's right up there among those really having a
great start.

Speaker 3 (29:43):
Of the season without question, and projected right now based
on these two games to have a five thousand yard
season is Daniel Jones. But you brought up, I think
the right thing, which is not just the conversation about
the play calling in the red zone. Here you are
trying to win the game and you settled for the
field goal at sixty yards. I'm I will say clearly,

(30:07):
I have no idea what Shane Stiken was thinking, why
he was thinking this, why this was the game plan.
I thought it was. I thought it was beyond risky
and unnecessary. You could have gone for five yards here
or seven yards there. Made this a little easier than
a sixty yarder that got booted by Strader. Luckily the
penalty from the Broncos. I got to assume fans are

(30:31):
thrilled to squeak out with the win, but are saying
to themselves, what the heck did I just see?

Speaker 5 (30:36):
Yeah, And then to justify it after the game, he
said he was trying to make sure that de Broncos
had no time left on the clock. But hey, hold
on a second. You got to make sure that you
get your guy in position for a makeable attempt, which
clearly on that first one he did not. They got
incredibly fortunate on the leverage penalty. They also got fortunate
because Lutz missed that forty two yarder that hit the

(30:59):
right upright, and then you know the prior possession, you know,
Nick's overshot the receiver on the Grover Stewart tip ball
and buying them had the interception. They were really fortunate.
But yeah, we'd be talking about a much different set
of circumstances had they not been given that dueover as
they were yesterday and everything turned out okay, Because that's

(31:19):
some heavy stuff, you know, playing for the field goal
fifty plus in that fashion.

Speaker 7 (31:24):
It was not good business.

Speaker 3 (31:27):
I'm with you on that, jam V The Voice of
Sports in Indiana ninety three, five one to seven five
the Fan. I appreciate you taking the time to be
with us more to get to I'm Tony Katz. Tony
Kat's ninety three WIBC. Good morning. So Missouri has moved
forward with redistricting. Uh, Indiana your next. Tony Katz ninety

(31:50):
three WIBC, good morning, Good to be with you. Let
me say it again, Indiana your next. This is a
conversation that has to take place. The special session absolutely
should be called. Who are you playing nice with? What
are you doing? Oh? We don't do that here. Oh

(32:11):
that's beneath us. That's just wrong. That is not the
proper look at the situation. Missouri State Legislature passing the
redistricting plan could possibly add another Republican seat could This
was passed last week and await signature of the governor.
A new, much fairer, much improved congressional map has now

(32:33):
overwhelmingly passed the both chambers of the Missouri Legislature that
according to President Trump, if Texas wants to do this,
they can. The retribution from California is we won't allow
the state of Texas to do what the state of
Texas wants. We won't leave this to the voters in
the state of Texas to decide.

Speaker 1 (32:53):
Whether they like or not.

Speaker 3 (32:54):
We're going to engage in retribution. And we've seen what
your retribution is like when you don't like when something happens,
or what somebody says. So, Indiana, allow me to say
it again. The special session has to be called. I
consider these people, you know, for the most part, nice people.

(33:16):
We have a disagreement here. I believe that the people
opposed to redistricting are wrong, and I'm going to say so,
and I'm going to say so very loudly.

Speaker 4 (33:25):
I do not.

Speaker 3 (33:26):
Ascribe to the idea of wait, we have a special
session for redistricting, but not for taxes, for property taxes,
have a special session for property taxes. One thing does
not preclude the other. One thing does not supplant the other.
When your fight, when your argument, when your battle, I
am saying, we need a special session on redistricting. We
need to redistrict. End of list. Isn't it New York

(33:49):
that redistricted in twenty twenty four. I'm not listening to
these other people I am saying that there are elections
to win, and I would love to see Indiana do
better than Andre Carson. My gosh, the bigotry is so great. Well.

(34:10):
I was talking about it over the weekend, and of
course the social media was you just shut your mouth. No, no, no,
it's not the way it works. It's not even science.
He's not good enough, he's not Indianapolis deserves better. I
just wish they would get themselves better, try harder, work harder.

(34:38):
Redistricting should happen and the right now, the Republican Party
in Indiana is not doing this accurately, and they need to.
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mayor of South Bend, the former Secretary of Transportation. I've
said it, I've meant it. I do not apologize for
it at all. I mean it's it's just time to notice.
It is time to notice that he is just terrible.
He proving himself untrustworthy, empower hungary. Now saying that Joe

(36:48):
Biden should not have run for reelection, you were in
the president's cabinet, of course, do you believe it was
reckless business for President Bidens in our circle not to
intervene sooner?

Speaker 10 (37:05):
He should not have run, And if he had made
that decision sooner, we might have been better off. But
it literally was his decision. Nobody else was able to
make that decision. And now in front of us, we're
confronted with the decisions that come next, whether that's inside
of a political party or movement, or as we're all
weighing right now in our own lives as Americans, as

(37:28):
a country, and that's where we've got to focus.

Speaker 3 (37:32):
I will say to you, what a coward to judge is.
You knew that he wasn't up to the task, You
knew he couldn't do the job, you knew that he
was in cape well, and you said nothing because you
didn't want to be a guy who steps out of line,
because you wanted to run for president, because you're power
hungry and you don't care about the country at all.

(37:54):
When I say smarmy, I mean smarmy.

Speaker 1 (37:58):
He is what he is. What he is is.

Speaker 3 (38:00):
By the way, the beard looks terrible on you. I'm
just saying that as a matter of he's a youthful
looking dude. He's a younger guy. The beard just doesn't work.
I mean, you could try it, but it's just it
just does not connect, not at all. He's there, he's
with Kristen Welker, And no, the mustache is way too thick.

(38:24):
It's not trimmed up. All right. That's about That's a
personal thing, right. I think for me, the beard works
better than the go tea. I don't think the go
tee ever really worked. Although I could go back to it,
I don't think. I don't think this works for him.
I don't think this is a presentation that really hits.
Why am I talking about that. The story here is
that he knew that Joe Biden wasn't Kate Bunny. He

(38:47):
said nothing because his political career and power meant more
than anything. That's not the kind of guy you trust.
That's why I brought the beard, Because it's like he's
high something like he hid from the American people that
Joe Biden couldn't do the job supporting Pete Buddha Judge.

(39:15):
The only person left supporting Pete Buddha Judge is Adam Wrenn.

Speaker 5 (39:19):
That is that?

Speaker 1 (39:21):
Is it?

Speaker 3 (39:23):
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Good morning, Good to be with you. During downtime, I'm
clearing my head, gearing up for what's next on the show.

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a gov live stream is happening over there on the
YouTube's WIBC having a whole conversation the chattering about redistricting, Tony,
I thought you were against redistricting. No, was never against redistricting.
Did ask in the beginning, why are we having this
conversation in Indiana? Is this something we need? We've got
seven of nine districts? Do we need to be the
people who did redistrict? That question? I asked, you have

(40:34):
seven of nine, what do you think you're going to get?
The more I've looked at the conversation, I've discussed this
quite clearly. Redistrict it's a political process. Call the special session,
see if you want to do it. This has been
my take. But when it first came up in Texas,
are like, is this something we want here? Which is
why I favor the special session. Let's find out what

(40:58):
it is we favor me. After putting some thought to it,
I favor it. Over there on the Facebook, something very interesting,
Matt there, very interesting. Indeed, authentic, not fake, it says,
And you know you know how much I believe in
authentic and not fake.

Speaker 11 (41:17):
Yeah, it's a you gotta be you gotta be real, man,
you gotta be real.

Speaker 3 (41:22):
I'm going to read this to you. This is the
description before I tell you what it is. Coach Lee
Corso led the Indiana Hoosiers to the school's first ever
Bowl win in nineteen seventy nine.

Speaker 12 (41:35):
You're aplauding the Holiday Bowl, right, Yeah, nineteen seventy nine
league course of baby, he's the man.

Speaker 3 (41:41):
Mister Bob Hamil was gifted this ring from the team
we're talking about. Sports writer Bloomington Herald Times covered IU
sports covered the team, did a lot of work in
the in the writing of this whole story. Passed away.
I think he passed away last month, right, I think

(42:02):
that's the story there. Well, this is, according to the post,
Bob Hamil's championship ring from the Holiday Bowl. Oh wow, authentic.

Speaker 12 (42:16):
They beat BYU in the Holiday Bowl and BYU was
undefeated seventy nine.

Speaker 11 (42:21):
And that's why this is really a big deal in
Bob Hamil. So if I am an IU fan, I
want this ring for myself in my collection.

Speaker 3 (42:30):
It's got Bob Hamil's name engraved in it. It's got
Hamil's name on the on the side of it. I
purchased this ring from the estate auction to Bob Hamil,
who covered the Hoosiers as a sports editor of the
Bloomington Herald Times. They are they're asking fifteen hundred dollars
for the ring.

Speaker 12 (42:52):
See, normally I'd be like that's way too much. But
I don't know the value of a ring like this,
And again it's you. Is how much the buyers willing
to pay. And the IU collector might look at this
and say, fifteen hundred dollars you had, this is totally
worth it and it is rare enough to put in
my collection.

Speaker 3 (43:09):
So I don't know.

Speaker 12 (43:10):
For me, fifteen hundred is way too much for some
sort of bowl ring, but for somebody else, the biggest
I You' fan in the world might be like, Yeah,
this is cool, I'll spend the money.

Speaker 3 (43:19):
Well, I'll tell you. I made my donations this weekend.
I was there with Premiere Arms as they were raising
money their twenty fourth anniversary raising money for the VFW.
Raised over twenty thousand dollars did Premiere Arms, And there
were some live auctions and I I may have spent
non radio money. I may have gone a little overboard
because what I needed was one more watch.

Speaker 11 (43:41):
Did you spend three digits.

Speaker 3 (43:45):
Well times X yes, yes, yes, size. So I was like, wow, yeah,
yes I did. I picked up another Von Reeste and
alri E st E von Reese dot com. I'll show
it off or it's not the one that I'm wearing
right now. It's fantastic. But this is very interesting to me.

(44:08):
Is this the kind of thing that is in your
personal collection? Is this the kind of thing you donate
back to IU? Is this the kind of thing you
show off it? Can someone explain to me what what
I'm looking at here? Because I'll I was willing to
do this with the Bible and then it's sold. Remember
I was going to purchase that Bible and I was like,
who needs it? Like, I'll take it and it's sold.

Speaker 11 (44:30):
Donate it to the Gideons.

Speaker 3 (44:32):
I would donate this back somewhere if it was going
to be on display, because it's it's very cool. Here's
what you do.

Speaker 12 (44:38):
You buy the ring if you can, and then you
auction it off for charity, you know, maybe give give
to whatever your favorite causes. But because somebody would love
to have this, I mean, there's you all over indiaple,
it's all over the donuts. So if you can do
some good out of it, that's what I would plan
on doing. It's a cold ring, man, It's.

Speaker 3 (44:56):
Really guess, But I guess the question in this is
is like, I don't know, Bob Hamil I reached out
to John Herrick to see what he would think of it.
Our our news director, of course, does a lot of
with with voicing a value sports. Would the Hamil family
want it back?

Speaker 11 (45:14):
That's a great question.

Speaker 3 (45:16):
So now I'm very curious as to what to do
with this. But it's it's cool. It is a very
very cool piece. I haven't listed over there uh at
on the Twitter x at Tony Katz. You should check
that out for yourself. See it for yourself. Maybe maybe
you're a buyer. Maybe it's for you.

Speaker 11 (45:37):
By the way, if you clink on the link, you
get a man dressed as a toilet.

Speaker 3 (45:40):
Just so you know, did I send the wrong one
link post? That's a great one. I said, that's what kid.

Speaker 12 (45:46):
Yeah, he's he's got his own orange bucket that you
put to candy. It could also be an anema bucket
if you wanted to.

Speaker 3 (45:53):
There is a there is a a Halloween costume where
your kid gets skippity toilet. Yeah.

Speaker 11 (46:01):
I would pay fifteen hundred dollars for the costume easily.

Speaker 3 (46:04):
Yeah. Oh my gosh, that wasn't the thing I was
gonna say. Oh, that's embarrassing, hilarious.

Speaker 11 (46:10):
Two items on the marketplace the kid's going back.

Speaker 3 (46:12):
I'll get it done. I'll get it. I'll get it fixed.
Trust me on this. Keep it here. Tony Katz ninety
three WIBC, Good Morning. So our very own Indie Spanglish
is now getting death threats? Is that what I'm hearing?
He put it out on social media. I don't mind
talking about it. Tony Katz, ninety three WIBC, Good Morning.
I asked producer Carlake, he's getting death threats? What in

(46:35):
the what the world is that. I've been doing this
a long time. I rarely get death threats? What about me?

Speaker 1 (46:44):
And uh?

Speaker 3 (46:46):
Carl's right. Spanglish has been calling out a lot of
people who've been cheering the death of Charlie Kirk, like
this member of the staff over there at IU Indianapolis saying,
Karma can be a bitch. Sorry, kids, I don't know
if you're going to school, That's what he said. I
was just quoting, if you want to argue free speech,

(47:10):
and oh I thought you were. I thought you were
in favor of free speech. I thought you opposed cancel culture. Oh,
I absolutely positively do. I don't think that people should
be fired. I don't think people's careers should be destroyed.
I do think we should be aware of what people
are saying, and I think other people can make you

(47:31):
aware of what they're saying. What happens next is out
of my hands. To quote anti Pelosi. People will do
what they do. Businesses are being burned to the ground,
but oh, people are going to do what they do.
Donald Trump incited all this violence. Oh, Charlie Kirkin's assassinated. Well,
you can't really hold that against anybody. My gosh, we

(47:53):
see you, and we're disgusted. We're disgusted with you. We are,
And it's okay. It is okay to be disgusted with
these people. It is okay to look at them and
say they not like us. It is okay to say
they can never win an election again. That is where

(48:18):
I want to discuss things from. Do I believe you
have to protect yourself? Do I believe you have to
defend yourself? Do I believe you have to buy guns
byamo and get trained? Yes?

Speaker 10 (48:27):
I do.

Speaker 3 (48:28):
Would any gun have stopped the murder of the assassin
of Charlie kirk No, you are in no way one
hundred percent safe. But no one is. And that is
not only true of the person on the political right
or the average person who might disagree with somebody on
the political left. That's also of the person who claims
to have different pronouns. You're not safe from hearing. Sorry,

(48:50):
I'm gonna call you he I'm triggered. It's an unsafe environment. No,
it was an unsafe environment for Charlie Kirk. You just
didn't like being call called sir. You with the beard,
there's a difference. Grow up, handle it, handle, murder, handle, assassination. Handle.

(49:11):
Knowing that everybody who works at this station is under
threat everyone, Well, sure, I'm going to handle it. I'm
going to discuss it honestly and apologize for nothing. It
was good this weekend to be part of the Hoosier
Leadership for America summit that center Jim Banks put together.

(49:35):
I was not paid to attend. I spoke at the event.
It was an interesting group, influenced by a whole series
of things, more so than I ever thought, less so
than some cases that I wanted. But there was a
conversation about the very concepts of leadership, and I was

(50:00):
tasked with discussing media and the idea of leadership and
how I am a true believer in the idea that
you are not listening to this show or anything I
do or anybody else does, so you can be told
what to think, rather, as I believe is the job

(50:21):
of the show, it's to give you something to think about.
My faith in you to come up with your own mind,
with your own thoughts is well massive. And sometimes when
we disagree, it says to me, I'm not doing a
good enough job of persuading or convincing, and that means
just I have to work harder. I'm challenge accepted. I'm

(50:45):
totally in. But there was a conversation that started that
I didn't really get to dig into. And I've said
this before about your children. I am no longer of
the mind that listen, your kids may disagree with you.
They're in college. You want to work with them, you
want to talk to them, you want to keep them.

(51:05):
I understand this. No, No, I want you to be
very direct with your children. We're going to start digging
into this. Sometimes they're wrong, even at twenty, and you
should say so, and you should ask yourself why you're
footing the bill for a university and so indoctrinates them
into such absolutely horrific thoughts. Why are you doing this
because you love your kid? I put forth to you

(51:28):
that no, you don't. We're going to break this subject
open wide today and Tony Katz today, I hope you're there.

(51:54):
The city is going to bail out of private development.
Am I reading this right from the IBJ? I mean
we're gonna be with Gary Dick in just a couple
of minutes. But walk me through this. I'll share with
you the story. You tell me if I've got this right.
Tony Kantz, ninety three WIBC. Good morning, Mickey Showey with

(52:16):
the reporting. Indianapolis development officials are proposing an eighteen million
dollars loan by the Metropolitan Development Commission will salvage the
apartment conversion of the Gold Building that's one hundred and
fifty one North Delaware. That conversion expected to replace four

(52:40):
hundred thousand square feet of office space with more than
three hundred and fifty apartments and nearly eight thousand square
feet of ground floor retail. So you've had a two groups,
Gershman and Citymark investing about free fifty million dollars into renovations,

(53:04):
and sources telling the IBJ that the project has been
a point of frustration for hog Set, his administration, and
others because of the faltered efforts to secure funding, and
because it has led to further delays for other components
of the effort to reshape the city market north of
the City County Building. Okay, now, I'm not arguing against

(53:35):
whether the city is happy or unhappy, or trying to
get this done so they can move on to the
next thing. I don't have that data in front of me.
And even though Joe hog Set is a fool who
abuses his own staff and allows abusers to be honest staff,
I'll believe that this part of the reporting from Mickey
Shwey is accurate. I would have no reason to think
otherwise that, Hey, you said you'd have something done. We're

(53:57):
waiting for this to be done to get the next
thing done. You're not getting it. Well, then we've got
ourselves a larger scale problem. Here's the question, why in
the world would the city bail out anybody the project failed,
tell them to sell it to somebody else. Eighteen million dollars, Well, Tony,

(54:18):
that's the cost of business. That's the way it works. No,
it's not. That's the way cities may work, government may
work utilizing other people's money. I oppose the bailouts when
they were coming for aig. What in the world are
we looking at here? An eighteen million dollar bailout? Now

(54:47):
are we talking about a loan? Are we talking about it? Here?
You go, they're saying loan. Now. The question is who
believes the loan will be paid back? Of stuff? That
makes people crazy because this is government giving government people
a deal who are in the know that other people

(55:07):
wouldn't get. Your small business will never get this deal,
and thus I oppose it. And I am not happy
with the city being so involved in construction projects. I
said this about the Carmichael in Carmel, I said this

(55:32):
about the hotel that Indianapolis is building in downtown. This
is the city is in the real estate business. No
thanks being a place that makes it easier to build good,

(55:53):
reducing regulation, red tape valuable. I'm all in for that
eighteen million dollar loans. Raise your hand if you think
it's gonna get paid back. Oh, look, everybody still has
their hands on the wheel. Yeah, this is an interesting story.
This is an interesting, interesting, interesting story. Exactly how often

(56:20):
is this happening in Indianapolis? Exactly how many people are
getting themselves a nice bit of city provided cushion. Tony
Katz ninety three WIBC, Good Morning. There are national stories,
there are local stories, and then there's the story of

(56:40):
I sixty nine, which, if you've been a Hoosier for
any amount of time at all, you know the question
is is this thing done already? Tony Katz ninety three WIBC,
Good morning, Good to be with you. Gary Dick joins
us from inside Indiana Business dot Com on the Twitter
exit ib is where you find him. So I ask you,

(57:05):
Gary Dick, is this thing done?

Speaker 7 (57:10):
It's getting closer?

Speaker 3 (57:12):
You're right.

Speaker 7 (57:12):
It has been talked about for many, many years, decades
finishing ICE sixty nine, the ICE sixty nine extension through Indiana,
and last week the story came in to focus more
on a national level. The US Transportation Secretary Sean Duffy
was in Evansville last week joining Governor Brown, Senator Todd Young,

(57:36):
and others from Kentucky to talk about this Ohio River
crossing project, the biggest infrastructure project in Southwest Indiana in memory,
at least one point four billion dollar bridge that will
connect Evansville to Henderson, Kentucky. What that's been fifty years
in the making, this extension of Ice sixty nine, and
it's getting closer. Still have to the approaches on each side,

(57:59):
indian and Kentucky being constructed now, then they have to
build the bridge, and right now it's looking that it
won't be until twenty thirty one, believe it or not,
until traffic would be on that bridge. But apparently getting closer,
a lot of attention on it.

Speaker 3 (58:16):
Twenty thirty one is apparently getting closer to.

Speaker 6 (58:18):
You, not to me.

Speaker 7 (58:22):
And actually, as part of the trip last week by
those officials in who visited Southwest Indiana, there's a four
hundred and sixty million dollar grant that's on the table
that the Indiana Department of Transportation wants to get. The
hope is that Secretary Deeppi's visit will help speed up
that process and maybe get money into the project and

(58:43):
speed up that timeline a bit. But there is a
big business connection, certainly the business community in southwest India.
I've talked to a number of them for a long time,
very frustrated how long it's taking taking to get this
bridge built. You look at FedEx obviously here in Indianapolis,
and access to access to Memphis their headquarters there through

(59:06):
air obviously, but also on ground. A lot of companies,
a lot of communities in that part of the state
are banking on looking at economic development projects based on
this being done. So the sooner it gets done to better,
we'll see where that plays out.

Speaker 3 (59:21):
Talking to Gary Dick from inside Indiana Business dot Com
on the Twitter x ATIB, let's talk data centers, because
you've got city County council now opposing data centers. We're
opening these things up to the public all of a sudden,
data centers are public enemy number one. I think it
was North Carolina saying no to a very large data center.
I haven't made a determination yet and whether or not

(59:42):
data centers are enemies, as you have reported, Indiana now
has seventy two of them, up thirty percent since March.
What is as you're hearing it, the real opposition to
data centers and what are you hearing about the future?

Speaker 7 (59:58):
Yeah, and you mentioned some local oppicae position the big
data center planned in Franklin Township, increasing opposition to that
one on the city County Council, and there's a vote plan.
I think it's a week from tonight. On that project
and whether it will go forward or not. But the
big concern and the fact of the matter is these
data centers are happening, and they're going to happen. The

(01:00:20):
question is where, what communities, what regions of the country
are going to accept them and want them to be
part of their community. Big concerns include, you know, resources,
the amount of water it takes to cool and power
electricity to power these uh, these big data centers, they
take a lot of energy, uh, the environmental impact. A

(01:00:44):
lot of concern about the incentives increasingly so that are
being provided to these data centers to locate in communities
around Indiana.

Speaker 3 (01:00:53):
And what are the incentives, Gary, what are the incentives
you're hearing about?

Speaker 7 (01:00:58):
Yeah, and you know, typical tax abatement, those types of
traditional incentives. But there was a law that was passed,
I think it was in twenty nineteen, I can't remember
the year that the legislature passed a legislation that would
make it more attractive, that would increase the incentive, if
you will, for big companies to locate data centers here,

(01:01:20):
to make Indiana more competitive with states like Ohio and
Virginia and some of these other states. That have a
lot of data centers.

Speaker 1 (01:01:28):
So.

Speaker 7 (01:01:30):
It's more attractive to do business here. That's why the
interest is here, which wasn't here before the law passed,
but it is now. Google is looking here in Marion County.
Also a big data center up in Fort Wayne. Their
building Meta, the Facebook Parents building down in south east Indiana.
Amazon building a massive data center in northern Indiana. There

(01:01:50):
are a number of others around the state, but increasingly
we're seeing this community of resistance. Hancock County certainly is
seeing that Kashasco County killed, the Warsaw area killed a
data center project in that part of the state. Farmers
concerned about the impact on the land and losing land
in that part of the state. So we're seeing increasingly

(01:02:13):
this battle between communities and big tech play out, and
it's certainly not over. Maybe just beginning.

Speaker 3 (01:02:21):
Talking to Gary Dick from Inside Indiana Business dot Com
on the Twitter exit, IIB I'm following this and all
the arguments seem rather disjointed. If the argument is tax abatements,
which is what it is we give as a state
in order to bring this business in the question is
what do we lose out on when we don't give it.
What did we actually give up if we already get nothing.

(01:02:43):
If it's a conversation about power, why has there not
been a conversation about how these data centers provide their
own power something we could easily write in, or how
they pay for power they're using, unless, of course, it
takes power away from the rest of us. These things
can be discuss And if we're not going to take
the data center, what are we taking in instead? I

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find that the argument against the data center seems to
be very much lacking in any level of cogent rational
response to it. We just don't want this business seems
a bit awkward. Is there a competitive business, a different
business that we're saying is a state we would rather
have than the data center?

Speaker 7 (01:03:26):
Well, I think if you look at some of the
focus in Indiana here to your point, Tony, you look
at areas like microelectronics, we see the big s k
Heinez investment in West Lafayette. Obviously traditional industries like advanced
manufacturing and those those types of things. But really, and
you kind of touched down it there with that commentary

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in terms of the pushback, part of it is is
the nimbiism, if you will not in my backyard. That
certainly is coming into play with these data centers. Also
the question of return on investment, you know, for these
big the incentives that are being offered, are the jobs
being created enough to make it worth a community's while

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we see the State of Indiana Indiana Economic Development Corporation
paying one point two million dollars, as we've reported on
a study on data center specifically to answer some of
those questions that you bring out, some of those questions
about the environmental impact, the energy usually all those types
of things, the jobs and is it really worth it.

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So this is a hot button issue in the economic
development world, and Indiana has become one of the one
of the key areas where it's playing out.

Speaker 3 (01:04:42):
Gary Deck inside Indiana Business dot Com on the Twitter
x at ib I appreciate you sharing the update. Time
to fill up on the news. Tony Katz, ninety three WIBC,
Good morning. What's going on?

Speaker 8 (01:04:56):
Down?

Speaker 3 (01:04:57):
Futures up one twelve. The Nasdaq futures are up fifty one,
and there could be reason for that. Right now, we've
got oil prices sixty two dollars and ninety one cents
on the West Texas crewed sixty seven to fifteen on
the Brent crued and the ten year Treasure, which was

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heading down four point zero four five ticking up just
a touch. We keep an eye on that big story.
Trump indicating, implying, indicating, the story just breaking that a
TikTok deal has been reached, saying on a truth a

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social post, a big trade meeting in Europe between the
United States of America and China has gone very well.
It will be concluding shortly. A deal was also reached
on a certain quote unquote company that young people in
our country very much wanted to save. They'll be very happy.
I'll be speaking to the President g on Friday, the President.

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The relationship. Relationship remains a very strong one sign of
President dj T. That's Donald John Trump. For those of
you playing the home game. If the United States owns
part of TikTok, I'm going to lose my mind. We
shouldn't own part of Intel, We shouldn't know own part
of TikTok. We should not be involved in Solindra. How
much do we have to learn before we say we

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don't do these things? Sorry? Not interested, not conservative, not valuable,
And I got involved in a whole conversation over the
weekend at the Who's Your Leadership for America summit about
this idea of traditional conservatism. It was Kurt Schlickter. It
wasn't so much arguing against, but rather saying, we should

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want question whether or not we need traditional conservatism. I
took the position of there's no such thing. There's conservatism
and everything else. And I discussed this now as a bastardization.
It's like people talk about late stage capitalism. What the heck,
there's capitalism. Everything else is nonsense. It's nonsense. I don't
want the US owning companies. No, it is not correct. No,

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it is not accurate. No, it's not keeping America strong.
It's not. I don't care who you are within the
administration or what position you work for, it's not it's ridiculous.
We shouldn't be doing these things. The private sector can
handle it them or these people can falter and that's it.
But if you want to change certain rules regarding those

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who can mess with the private sector, how other nations
abuse us, Well, that's a different argument. But we cannot
have any conversation, any argument that states, well, we buy
into some of these companies and problem up but it's
all right. Nope, no, no, no, no, oh no ah,
hell no. The answer is no copy to discuss that anytime,

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any place, anywhere. Tony Katz in ninety three WIBC, Good morning.
All Right, it hit me that I know what this is.
I could be wrong. Tony Katz, ninety three, WIBC, Good morning.
Time to play America's favorite game, What the heck is
that television theme song? Here is how we play our game.

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Producer Carlos picked the television theme song from yesteryear. I
have to guess what it is. Okay, I think the
chat room may be right. I think the chat Room
may be right because I knew it was one of
those kind of cop procedurals. At first, I'm like, is

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this the man from Uncle? But no, this is not
the man from Uncle. This is the theme to Adam twelve. Wow,
give the chat room the assist on there. I knew
it was in that realm of thing, but the chat
room had it well done, well played, Dusty, Don Fred

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and Molly, good work, good work in there. We we
play this game What the heck is That TV? Theme song?
Every single Monday through Friday, Carl tries to stomp US,
and we say not today, Satan. That's that's what we
say about Carl. Some people think it's a bit harsh.

Speaker 1 (01:09:21):
Me.

Speaker 3 (01:09:22):
I think it's it's right on, right on Q right there.
Interesting story about UBS. You're like, Tony, isn't that a bank?
It is a bank. The the headline from Newsmax is
that they're thinking about coming to the United States. You're like,

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we were already have UBS. I don't know that the
the actual headquarters of the bank UBS is considering a
move to the United States. And You're like, how in
the world does a Swiss bank move here? They've got
all the good banking rules. Well, they've got new capital
requirements over there. They have met with the Trump administration
to prepare a strategy shift that could include the acquisition

(01:10:07):
of a US bank or a merger. We want to
continue to operate as a successful global bank based out
of Switzerland. However, the Swiss proposals on capital requirements, as
he calls them, punitive and excessive, said the bank would
need to rethink how it protects shareholders and stakeholder interests.
Although stakeholder is a nonsense term, it's definitely too early

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to jump on commenting on any potential scenario and what
our responses will be interesting. The Swiss government said, hey,
UBS took over credit sueez, there should be tougher controls
and they should have to hold twenty six billion dollars
in core capital. And what UBS is saying is come on.

(01:10:54):
That's basically what it is that they're saying. They're interesting
interesting stuff. Also allow me to the people who want
to scream cancel culture. Regarding all of those people who
are being called out and losing their jobs, getting expelled

(01:11:17):
from universities because they're cheering the death of Charlie Kirk
and showing themselves to being really despicable people, I would
say three things. First, I have not called on anybody
to be fired. Secondly, I am not surprised that a
company is completely rethinking their social media policy when they

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have employees cheering somebody's murder. It's pretty messed up. Carolina Panthers, MSNBC, NASDAQ, FEMA,
they've all carried out disciplinary actions against people cheering the
death of Charlie Kirk. The Secret Service the same thing.
Delta said employees who made social media posts about Kirk's

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murder time at Delta Airlines were suspended, saying the post
quote went well beyond healthy, respectful debate. Some people are
going to say, I thought you you believed in free speech. Oh,
I absolutely do. I never said these people couldn't be
the most disgusting human beings on planet Earth. I never
once said they couldn't be the true embodiment of evil.

(01:12:27):
I didn't say that. Hannah Einenbinder from the TV show
Hacks couldn't say f ice in free Palestine while she's
accepting an Emmy f ice. I mean, how hateful of
America does one have to be? And the answer is,
Hannah Einbinder is pretty hateful if she thinks we shouldn't
have a rule of law and people here illegally and

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committing murders should stay. If she thinks that somehow the
terrorists are worth supporting and not the people attacked by
the terrorists, which includes the people who live in Gaza.
But hey, some people are just terrible, which is why
you don't let your children date someone like Handa Erombinder,
and you don't let your children marry somebody like Hannah Irombinder.

(01:13:09):
I didn't say she couldn't say it. I said she
deals with the consequences. We all deal with the consequences. Booboo. Well,
so you support cancel culture. I'm not saying anybody should
be fired. These people, these businesses are and if you
don't want to shop those businesses anymore, don't flight Delta.
It makes no difference to me. I don't think anybody
should buy from business that advertises on MSNBC. You think

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we should be buying from businesses that still advertise in
the New York Times. The New York Times, which in
one of their weather is an obituary of one of
their early times about Charlie Kirk referred to him as
an anti Semite. Look what he said, and then they
put out a correction the next day. Oh no, he
didn't say this. He was commenting on somebody else who
said this. You didn't have that right, and you call

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yourself journalists. You did it on purpose. It's because at
the New York Times, you're the people, and Barry Weiss
was right to leave you. You don't deserve love or attention.
And President Trump has to state that The New York
Times is no longer the paper of record, and I'm
not quite sure how that changes, but they're not They

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can't be the paper of record that's over. You don't
think businesses are paying attention to what's happening here. You
don't think that that businesses are gonna note when their
employees are cheering murder, teachers cheering murder, psychotics. You should

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be very aware when a teacher is cheering murder. You
should be very aware when this is happening. So therefore
you can know when to pull your kid out of
that school. Every time a teacher cheers a murder. Fifty

(01:14:57):
thousand parents should pull their kids out of public schools.
Starve them economically. They don't get any money. We'll figure
out another way. We don't need you. You're not worth it,
Teachers Union. Your teachers can't control themselves. They think they're
too important, They think their personalities matter too much. They

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don't matter. The kids matter. A teacher cheers murder, fifty
thousand kids get pulled out of public schools across the country.
They'll learn now. It doesn't mean they'll be good people,
but certainly you can hope that they get the message

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just to stay quiet and teach. Nobody wants to hear
about their personalities at all. Now I'll get more into
this on Tony Katsay at noon. I'll catch you then