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Speaker 1 (00:10):
The Indiana Clowns return as part of Banana ball Tony
Katz ninety three WIBC. I'll get to that story, but
I said I'd open up the phones and discuss redistricting.

Speaker 2 (00:21):
The Vice President will be in town.

Speaker 1 (00:26):
To go to Republicans and say, oh, no, no, no, we
should redraw the lines.

Speaker 2 (00:30):
We should redistrict.

Speaker 1 (00:33):
Tell Andre Carson and Frank Levan, you're gonna actually have
to run in a district where it might be competitive.
We have a very large scale conversation to have about
what's going on across the country and what has already
happened with the redistrict that took place that made Illinois
look at Illinois and California look like California. What Texas
did they're allowed to do legally, it's a political Maybe

(00:57):
there's no problem. What California did was retribute. If you
want to see retribution take place, you're going to lose Republicans.
This is the argument I favor the redistricting. The Indiana
Capitol Chronicle was sharing a poll there from a group
called north Star Opinion Research on behalf of independent Indiana

(01:18):
that I know nothing about, and it says that the
majority of Hoosier's opposed this fifty three percent found a
slim majority there. I'm not sure if everybody even understands
the subject. And I said, I'll discuss this with anybody.

Speaker 2 (01:33):
John is on the line, John for or against redistricting, And.

Speaker 3 (01:38):
Why, well, I'm sort of neutral on this because you know,
they had a chance to redistrict in twenty and Iran
against Andre Carson last election, and you know it used
to have the southern part of Marion County in it,
and then in twenty they redrew the line to make
the District seven even harder for a Republican to win

(02:00):
in because they were afraid of losing a district five
and maybe six. So I think that the pensulum could
swing back the other way very quick.

Speaker 1 (02:11):
What you're engaged and I appreciate the call, John, What
you're engaged in is the very concept of risk, the
idea that you could redraw the lines, but what if
you lose? I accept that that is a risk. I
accept that it is a risk, And I say, okay.
My value proposition is that we are dealing with people nationwide,

(02:38):
because this wasn't supposed to be a nationwide conversation with
a Texas conversation. I didn't come to the place of, oh,
we should do this until California decided to act in retribution.

Speaker 2 (02:50):
Texas did this thing. So we as a state, well.

Speaker 1 (02:54):
Somehow rewrite our lines and we'll show them, well what
happens when this starts taking place everywhere? And so, yes,
I believe that in a political fight, one should be
politically proactive.

Speaker 2 (03:07):
And the idea that this is beneath us. I'm sorry.
I've heard members of the General Assembly say this. I
think they're wrong.

Speaker 1 (03:12):
I've heard Mitch Daniel say this. I believe he is
wrong on this subject. It's okay, he's right on a
bunch of things.

Speaker 2 (03:18):
He's wrong on this.

Speaker 1 (03:22):
But you can't say that, oh, we can't redraw here
because it might hurt there. You can't say, well, we
can't do anything because at least now we're safe.

Speaker 2 (03:31):
That's not it. That is not a value proposition. Everything
has a risk. You could redraw the line and Republicans
could lose the district. It's possible.

Speaker 1 (03:45):
It is absolutely possible that you redraw the seventh and
yet you still don't win the seventh.

Speaker 2 (03:50):
Absolutely possible.

Speaker 1 (03:54):
I still believe in the redistricting and that argument doesn't
move me. Also, I'm not interested right now in anybody
who's neutral. I want to hear if somebody's got a thought,
if you've got a position, I want to hear it
because I want to hear it.

Speaker 2 (04:07):
Maybe you're going to say something I haven't thought of.
I don't mind.

Speaker 1 (04:11):
Tony Katz, that's me, by the way, what's up everybody,
ninety three WIBC, Good morning. So the Banana Ball, which
is of course the Savannah bananas, and how this thing
has exploded and if it's entertaining and people are like,
you know what, I just want to be entertained for

(04:32):
a night. And it's fun and that's cool, great, fantastic.
What they created is kind of amazing, and its growth
is amazing, and how everybody's jumping in on it and
celebrity it's amazing. And now they're bringing about some other teams.
They're creating more of a league about this. Tony Katz

(04:52):
at ninety three WIBC, Good morning. What I did not
know is that Jesse Cole, who bought the Savannah bananas
basically for a nickel and created this whole world. I
didn't know that the Savannah bananas were inspired.

Speaker 2 (05:08):
By the Indianapolis Clowns, which was a team that was
in the Negro.

Speaker 1 (05:16):
Leagues in the forties. I had no idea, no clue.
So the Clowns are coming back. So they are going
to play May fifteenth and sixteenth in twenty twenty six

(05:42):
against the Party Animals. I don't know who the Party
Animals are, but neither here nor there. Fun This is very,
very cool, and I would argue there's opportunities to build
around this with first of all, not only this team

(06:05):
and what it can be for Indye. But maybe I've
missed it in all the years I've been here. Do
we have any type of memorial to the Clowns? Do
we have any type of history, any type of museum,
any type of anything to that, because that would be
something to see. I do believe that one of the

(06:27):
things we are missing is more arts downtown. I am
on record. You need more things for people to do
that are not bar and restaurant related. You need more
reasons for families to be able to come downtown and
then decide to grab lunch. You have better opportunities that way.

(06:50):
It cannot be all convention and bar business.

Speaker 2 (06:53):
It's just it's not well rounded enough.

Speaker 1 (06:56):
That's why I favor of Performing Arts Center, and I
certainly favor museums stuff like this, Stuff like this that
a father and his kids could spend an hour in
forty five minutes in.

Speaker 2 (07:12):
It doesn't have to be massively expansive, but tell.

Speaker 1 (07:15):
The story is a great idea, and it would be
and I think it would be welcomed. Now, according to Kylon,
the Children's Museum has an exhibit dedicated to the Clowns.
Very cool. I've meant to the Children's Museum in a while.
My problem there is is that I the children Museum

(07:38):
is terrific, but I want something specifically downtown. I want
people to be able to walk to it, get to it,
then walk to something else, go to there, and then
go to a game, go to there, and then go
grab lunch. It's to say we have it at the
Children's Museum. Is I just think that we need more here.

(08:00):
I do believe that Children's Museum is built in the
wrong spot. I've always thought so it's great. I'm not
saying no, but built in the wrong spot. We should
want it as part of downtown and build that out
and more and create more intensity there. So I'm glad
they have it, or a museum.

Speaker 2 (08:19):
To It doesn't have to be that big, and by
the way, it doesn't specifically have to be this. There
are probably a one hundred other things.

Speaker 1 (08:28):
If you are in a Gamebridge Field House and you
go to where it was like the PACER's offices are,
and I'm assuming you can get to seats.

Speaker 2 (08:36):
That way, there are these fantastic.

Speaker 1 (08:38):
Photos that line the walls of the Pacers and parts
of Indianapolis. That's a museum. People would pay or donate
to see these things. I do not know what the
USA Daughters are going to do with the Jim Mersey collection,
but the answer is a museum here right not to

(09:01):
any place else, right here in India, unquestionable. You want
to attach it to to Lucas Oil Stadium, go ahead,
no question.

Speaker 2 (09:12):
We just just more of these things, is what it
is that we need? More of these things.

Speaker 1 (09:21):
Is exactly what it is that we should want. That's
that is my take, That is my philosophy. I said
that I was taking calls about redistricting.

Speaker 2 (09:36):
Should we or should we not? That is the question.

Speaker 1 (09:41):
David is on the line, David, your take on redistricting?

Speaker 2 (09:45):
Should Republicans do it?

Speaker 4 (09:48):
Yes, they should. We elect a federal Congress every two years,
we elect a General Assembly every two years. We the
people speak through the legislature. And if we the people
want our state to participate differently in the federal in

(10:09):
shaping the federal level of government, that we have every
right to read district And I would say every two years.
We don't need to limit and put ourselves in pigeonhole
box of pen years. We need right now.

Speaker 2 (10:27):
So the tenure thing is because of the census.

Speaker 1 (10:29):
As a census every ten years is mandated by the Constitution,
and then redistricting takes places after that. Your argument is
a political process. You can redistrict any time you choose.

Speaker 4 (10:40):
You take the census every ten years, but you elect
a new Congress, and that in Indiana as a state
has a right to mold its state representation in Washington.
How Indiana as a state sees fit in Indiana election
new General Assembly every two years, and the General Assembly

(11:04):
is the best voice of state government that speaks for
the will of the people of the state of Indiana.

Speaker 1 (11:13):
David, I appreciate the phone call quite a bit. I
favor the redistricting, and he's making an argument that I
don't think many people have heard of before. We do
a thing because we do a thing, not because that's
the thing that should be done or how it necessarily
has to be done. So are we going with tradition

(11:33):
or are we going with data? Are we going with
what is possible? Who said this can't be done? Considering
redistricting as a political process, I absolutely favor the redistricting.
The Vice President is in town, and Republicans should make
this happen.

Speaker 2 (11:52):
I don't think there's any question that they should.

Speaker 1 (11:55):
And I know that there are some Republicans who opposed
to it, and I believe they're opposed to it for
the idea this is beneath us. And then there's the
idea of we're not going to do Washington's bidding. We
should do our bidding.

Speaker 2 (12:08):
Again.

Speaker 1 (12:09):
I've opened up the phone lines three one, seven, two, three, nine,
ninety three ninety three. I know people are like to Tony,
just take two phone calls. Yes, yes, So that means
this year I've taken two phone calls.

Speaker 2 (12:23):
I know, I know. I don't. I don't take many.

Speaker 1 (12:26):
It's it wasn't how I came up in radio. It's
not how I learned when I got here, it was like, yeah, yeah,
if you don't want to.

Speaker 2 (12:34):
That's fine.

Speaker 1 (12:35):
Some hosts are very very focused on it. I never
have been. But that's not that I don't want to
hear from you. I love you, booboo, you know I do.

Speaker 2 (12:44):
Come on, now, come back to bed, baby. Wait, hold
on what Sorry? Sorry, no, not I said what I said?
Time to fill up on the news.

Speaker 1 (12:56):
Tony Katz ninety three WIBC, Good morning, Good to be
with you. Doubt futures are up seventy six NASDAK futures
are up thirty four. Oil prices down sixty dollars and
sixty one cents on the West Texas crude per barrel
Brent crude sixty four dollars and thirty cents a barrel.
The tenure treasury down a little bit four point zero

(13:19):
nine six. We've been following gold and silver as of
late right now, thirty nine hundred and eighty four dollars
on the gold price. That's per ounce silver forty nine
eighty nine. It did crack fifty yesterday.

Speaker 2 (13:34):
Went a little bit higher.

Speaker 1 (13:35):
I think it was at fifty one yesterday. We'll see
what today brings on that price. But again I tell
you what I've got a Kylin. I'm not going to forget.
I'm not going to forget this time. I promise. I
promised you, Kylan. Kylan was worried I was going to
forget about our good sponsor, Simple Quarters, and I wasn't

(13:56):
going to I wasn't going to do it.

Speaker 2 (13:59):
But she was.

Speaker 1 (14:00):
She she did the right thing. She whispered in my ear.
So I will do it now to get to make
sure I don't forget.

Speaker 4 (14:07):
Thank you.

Speaker 1 (14:08):
I was gonna do everything, and then I was gonna
say it. I was gonna try it that way. I
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(14:29):
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Speaker 2 (14:30):
Bringing you, Phillip on the News. Should I do it
before and after? You know what? You know what we're
gonna do, Kylon. We're going to record a new intro
and we're gonna put it right in there.

Speaker 5 (14:40):
I like it.

Speaker 2 (14:40):
I'm putting you in charge. You're gonna record it.

Speaker 5 (14:42):
Challenge accepted.

Speaker 1 (14:44):
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Speaker 2 (14:56):
That wasn't bad. See you're not the only one who
can read things, Kylin.

Speaker 4 (15:01):
Like a probe.

Speaker 1 (15:02):
Tony, No, I'm really proud.

Speaker 2 (15:04):
I'm to thank you. Weird, but okay, we will take it.

Speaker 1 (15:10):
We will continue following those oil prices we've been talking
I mean those oil prices and those metal prices.

Speaker 2 (15:17):
We've been talking about redistricting. And I opened up the phones.

Speaker 1 (15:20):
I've got the chat room going on a live stream
there on YouTube, YouTube dot com, slash wibc and to
people saying, why don't we open it up to the
people to the vote. It's not concercting. And I reject
that premise that, of course it's conservative. It's a political process.
It's not even a question of conservative or not. It's
a political process. Well, you should open it up to

(15:42):
the voters. Are you afraid to open up to the voters.
The voters can make the change by voting out their
representative who may have voted for redistricting or not.

Speaker 2 (15:53):
That's always the way it is. But it doesn't work well.

Speaker 1 (15:56):
With me on the idea. Why don't you open up
to the voters. I'm the guy who wants to get
rid of the direct election of senators. The direct election
of senators is not Senators are supposed to be chosen
by state legislatures. We took rights away from the states. Well,
we opened it up to the people. We opened it
up to the mob.

Speaker 5 (16:17):
We want a Senate to be something fundamentally different from
the House. This was what the founders wanted, and they
were right, and the move to change from.

Speaker 1 (16:28):
That to the direct election of senators was wrong. But
this is all part of nineteen thirteen. The tilts of America,
the Federal Reserve wrong, direct election of senators wrong, the
income tax wrong. Goodness gracious, but we're talking about redistricting.
Vice President Vance is coming into town.

Speaker 2 (16:47):
Do you favor it? Do you not favor it? Merle
joins me.

Speaker 1 (16:50):
Right now, I appreciate you calling in, Merle, not in
favor of the redistricting, not.

Speaker 3 (16:56):
In favor of redistricting.

Speaker 2 (16:58):
Give me the wise.

Speaker 6 (17:00):
Oh well, main, my main reason is that we don't
do a good enough job every two years of seeing
where our census stands. And this is built specifically on
a census done every ten years. So if you're only

(17:20):
doing the census every ten years, which is what we do,
then once the census is done, then it should be
done strictly on how many people live in this square mile,
how many people live in that square mile, or whatever
geographic district you want to do. It should not be

(17:43):
based on how many Republicans live in this square mile
and how many Democrats live in that square mile.

Speaker 3 (17:50):
Okay, it should simply be.

Speaker 6 (17:54):
A numbers game as to and it should also would
be done as uh, economic isn't the right word.

Speaker 2 (18:06):
It should. It should be done.

Speaker 6 (18:09):
Strictly on how many people live in a certain areas.

Speaker 1 (18:12):
So I'm going to interrupt it for a moment, Merle,
because I think you're getting a lot of people to
shake their head in agreement with you. One of the
things that I think would we can we would all
agree regardless of where we are politically. It would drive
us nuts is we see districts not drawn to the
specification that you are discussing, which I think most people
shake their head in agreement. Yes, that's how we should

(18:34):
draw it, Like a basic grid, it gets drawn to
the other considerations. Now we could agree, we don't want
to drawn to the other considerations. We want to drawn
to a basic grid. Here's how many people. Here's how
we we apply it.

Speaker 2 (18:51):
But once you.

Speaker 1 (18:51):
Say okay, here we are here, we're going to base
it on the number of people, you have to determine
where a cutoff is.

Speaker 2 (18:58):
My argument back to you, and I.

Speaker 1 (19:00):
Do think people agree with you on the basics, is
that there is no way to pull the politics out
of this because where that line is, where you decide
this is a line.

Speaker 2 (19:13):
You know, this is the seventh district, and that's the
fifth district. That's the fifth district, and that's the sixth district.
That line is a political consideration in all ways.

Speaker 1 (19:22):
There's no other way to do it, you know, to say,
well that sounds right, is not. It's certainly a laudable
enough thought process, but isn't the way it's going to happen.
So it is political. Now, your other part of your stable,
which I think people would agree on. We have a
census every ten years. How are you going to change things?

(19:44):
Mid district if you don't know how things mid decade,
if you don't know how things have changed, I would
argue that that's less of a consideration. In my head,
it's if the district is improperly drawn. If you are
engaged in a political fight, you can engage politically that
you wouldn't want to that you think that this stuff

(20:04):
should be away from that. I think you could make
those votes. I think you can get people to appreciate that.
But I appreciate your call, and I I hope I've
given you something to think about on the other side
on how that works. More of this coming up. I'm
Tony Katz ninety three WIBC. Good morning, It's time to

(20:42):
play America's favorite game. What the heck is that television
theme song?

Speaker 2 (20:46):
Here's how we play our game. Producer Kylon in from
producer Carl.

Speaker 1 (20:49):
This week he's on assignment picks a television theme song
from yesteryear.

Speaker 2 (20:54):
I have to guess what it is, and.

Speaker 1 (21:02):
I'm looking at some responses on the twitters. They're about redistricting,
and I just find I find them the headshakers. I'll
get to that. I have to now guess what that
theme song is, and I have no idea of what

(21:23):
that theme song is. Absolutely I played again. There, Kylon
played again. If I have I have absolutely no clue.

(21:48):
Matt Bear, I'm gonna photo friend, Matt Bear. What is
this television theme song.

Speaker 2 (21:53):
That's half gun will travel, Tony, I don't even know
what that is.

Speaker 4 (21:57):
Oh, it's an old question.

Speaker 1 (22:00):
According to Sean and Brad and Stephanie, this is the
theme to Friday Night Lights. Well done to them.

Speaker 3 (22:07):
Can I give them a correct?

Speaker 2 (22:08):
Yes? There it is there, it is. Yeah. I would
not have known that. Was it?

Speaker 1 (22:16):
Full Heart's clear eyes can't fail something like that. I
never watched the show, so I don't know. But that
is Friday Night Lights. I would not have.

Speaker 4 (22:25):
Gotten that it's perfect for tonight?

Speaker 2 (22:28):
Was true enough? True enough?

Speaker 1 (22:33):
So on Tony Kats today at noon, we will be
discussing more about this redistricting, and of course, will we see.

Speaker 2 (22:41):
The hostages returned.

Speaker 1 (22:42):
As the Israeli Kanesse has finalized and approved the peace deal,
President Trump is heading to Israel to speak at the Kannesse,
where he has been invited to speak, and all the
people still angry.

Speaker 2 (22:57):
Oh, the fight's not over. The Palestinians must fight for
we get it. We get it. We see you, we
the free and thinking world.

Speaker 1 (23:10):
We know that you want to eliminate Israel, eliminate the Jews,
then Western civilization.

Speaker 2 (23:14):
We got it.

Speaker 1 (23:14):
The answer is no, and the fight is on, and
we should win the fight and you should lose the fight.
And that's all there is to it, nothing, nothing more
simple than that. So I will have that story. And wait,
I had something else that I wanted to get. Say,
oh gosh, Jimmy Kimmel. First, there's the absolute doozy of

(23:37):
Jimmy Kimmel wanting you to somehow believe that Antifa is
not real. Did you hear this? Did I not share this? Already?

Speaker 6 (23:49):
Goodness graceless making sure we're bringing those individuals to justice.
One of the individuals we arrested recently in Portland was
the girlfriend of one of the founders of Antifa.

Speaker 1 (24:00):
Finally they got the girlfriend of one of the founders
of Antifa.

Speaker 2 (24:06):
Do you understand there's no Antifa. This is an entirely
imaginary organization. There is not in Antifa.

Speaker 5 (24:14):
This is no different than if they announced they rounded
up a dozen Decepticons.

Speaker 2 (24:22):
What else can one say?

Speaker 1 (24:25):
They're carrying the flags going back to pre world War
two Germany. They're the ones who are self described.

Speaker 2 (24:38):
They don't exist.

Speaker 1 (24:42):
Antifa, like Jimmy Kimmel's ratings don't exist, which is why
Kimmel is inviting Donald Trump onto a show because he
wants ratings. He's desperate for ratings, begging for ratings, and they.

Speaker 2 (25:02):
Are not coming. I will get to that.

Speaker 1 (25:05):
Also, as I said talking about the redistricting, I disagree
with a whole bunch of people on this. I favor
the redistricting, and I know there are people here at
IBC who don't, and people in the state legislator don't.
That's fine. We're all grown ups. We all have different opinions.

(25:27):
If I saw a post from Abdul Abdul Keim Shabaz,
you've seen pictures where he's like, oh, they're very worried
about this. In the state House, nobody wants this, and
especially because they haven't had a special session on property taxes.
Allow me again, these two things are not equal things,

(25:50):
which is to say, if you want a special session
on property taxes, ten thousand users need to show up
at the state House and demand it. You think I
like paying this, you think I'm happy with what they
did this ridiculousness put forth by the General Assembly, and
Republicans have the audacity to look at us and tell us, hey.

Speaker 2 (26:12):
You're welcome.

Speaker 1 (26:14):
It's terrible. There is no one who doesn't discuss the issue.
The only people I've heard not discussing the issue are
people who live in Mary and Kenny. You're like, why
is he gonna save me three hundred dollars a year,
thanks braun. They're so elitist and out of touch that
they must be dismissed, because look how dismissed If they
are a Hoffoosier's everybody's paying more and more.

Speaker 2 (26:35):
It is abusive. I agree.

Speaker 1 (26:37):
That has nothing to do with whether or not you
have a special session about redistricting. They are two different subjects.
Don't say, well, if you don't do this, you can't
do that. That is a nutty argument, and I put
forth that people engaged in that nutty argument are indeed nutty.
There's nothing wrong with the conversation about redistricting, and it
should happen. It should happen. Should we have a special

(27:01):
session on property taxes? Yes, But in both cases, if
you have members of the General Assembly not doing the
job that you think they should be doing, vote them out.
Stop this crying, and why vote them out? Work on
just one pick one member of the General Assembly. Focus
all the attention there, vote them out of office. Primary

(27:24):
them now. I favor this in every way. I'll catch
you guys at noon. Kendall and Casey are up next,
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