Tony Katz and the Morning News Full Show 10-10-25

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Speaker 1 (00:13):
There will be no Nobel Prize for Donald Trump this year.
It was also selected on Monday. I could have something
to do with it, so you know, a deal between
Israel and Hamas didn't get counted. I want to say

(00:34):
for the record, if you see the show sheet today,
as clear as day, knowing the leftist as I do,
my money is on Gretaituneberg. I was wrong. I was wrong.
I went to a woman in Venezuela, Tony Katz in
ninety three WIBC, good morning.

Speaker 2 (00:54):
Now.

Speaker 1 (00:54):
I'm not saying that fighting back against the Madroid regime
isn't something that's worthy. It's clear Trump does want this.
It's clear people want it for Trump. The head line
the front page of the Jerusalem Post was the outline
of an image of Trump's head with all the pictures

(01:17):
of the hostages making it up as a collage, saying
they're coming home. They lit up the Knesset red white
and blue. They invited Trump to speak at the Kannesse,
which he will do. He's flying to Israel this weekend.
Hostages will be released within seventy two hours. We'll see

(01:40):
who is still alive, and of course those who are
desperate for destruction. Are saying, why did Himas make this deal? No, no,
no, no no. The Palestinians are still being oppressed. Israel still
the aggressor. They want it to continue. They have a
blood lust. And the New York Times runs an analysis

(02:06):
Hamas takes a big risk in deal to release hostages.
That's their headline, not mine, kitten. The Palestindian militant group
is giving up much of the leverage it has with
Israel with no guarantees some of its main demands will
be met. The terrorist organization is taking a risk. The

(02:26):
risk is if you don't give back the hostages, you die.
And so it turns out. You know, they're they're fine
with meeting their maker, just just not today. That's what
we learned. Live another day to go about killing more Israelis.

(02:47):
That's who they are, and they have got support right
here in Indiana and across the country, across the globe.
We know what we're dealing with. But Trump will not
get the Nobell now to win an award. That also
Yah Sir arafat one. I don't know if it's the

(03:07):
greatest accomplishment. We need more awards. What I will tell
you is I can understand the mathematics of Trump. I
can understand, if you will, the ego of Trump. I
can understand how it would set people into a level
of crazy. How could you give this to Donald Trump?
But as we will see in just a little bit,

(03:29):
it's one thing not to give him an award. It's
another thing not to be able to mention his name,
which is the story of Barack Obama, a petty, petty,
small little man. That story is coming up. Tony Katz
ninety three WIBC, Good morning. So you have got the

(03:51):
Israel Hamas deal that is going to be taking place
in the next seventy two hours. The hostage is released,
prisoners released. As Trumps now said in his meeting yesterday
with the finished President Alexander Stubbs, no one is going

(04:14):
to be forced to leave Gaza.

Speaker 3 (04:16):
And nobody's going to be forced to leave now. It's
just the opposite. This is a great plan, this is
a great peace plan. It's a plan that was supported
by everybody. I mean, as I said, they're dancing in
the streets of many, many countries right now. It's amazing.
I've never seen anything like it. I no, we're not
looking to do that at all.

Speaker 1 (04:34):
Tony Katz ninety three WIBC, Good morning, Good to be
with you. The Israeli Cabinet approved the deal last night.
President Trump is heading to Israel, and so are two
hundred troops. Now, I have seen where Caroline leve at,

(04:55):
the White House Press Secretary, is pushing back on a
series of news organstions, including Fox News. You're getting the
story all wrong. We're not putting troops on the ground
in Israel. We're monitoring the ceasefire deal. Listen to me carefully.
You're the ones who have to contend with magaworld. You're

(05:17):
sending two hundred troops to Israel. You're doing what you're
doing now. I think the proper argument goes as follows.
The President of the United States is going to speak
in front of the Kannesset that close to terrorist activity,
you might send some extra help. Anybody else think I'm

(05:39):
off base or do I have a Are we all
agreed that that's a good summation of a part of
the rationale. You really need US troops to oversee, to
support and monitor the ceasefire deal. With all due respect,
I don't think you do. With all due respect, I'm
not specifically bothered by the idea, But I would more

(06:02):
believe that you want to have a security apparatus in
place for Trump being there now if these guys are
gonna show up, if so facto after the fact, well
then A I'm wrong about the need for security, which
I don't think I'm wrong about. And B you're putting
troops on the ground. It doesn't matter if they're there

(06:23):
for twelve minutes. It doesn't matter if they're there in
a fight with a moss fighters, which allegedly there won't
be any fighting with a moss fighters. It is what
it is, and it's not me that anybody has to
contend to it in terms of explaining themselves for Caroline Levitt,

(06:44):
for President Trump, or Pete Egseth, it's Magaworld or Magaville,
that's all. Those are the people you have to explain
yourselves to. And I don't think that it's wrong to
say this will be taken as a why are you
sending them ten? I'll have more on this story is

(07:08):
of course more will be developed. But one of the
big stories that took place yesterday was that of RFK Junior. Now,
I was listening to the cabinet meeting yesterday I played
it on Tony Katch Today, played it live, and I

(07:29):
was engaged in commentary, and during one of my commentaries,
I missed Robert F. Kennedy Junior talking about autism still
and talking about Tyler Hill see to metaphine and autism.
And we had doctor Malone on the show, doctor Robert Malone,

(07:50):
who is on the advisory council there for the CDC
and discussing that, you know, Tyler Oill is the best
of the worst, especially if you're pregnant, or I should
say specifically if you're pregnant, because that was the conversation
and how it's the best of the worst and if
you can, if you cantavoid it, don't take it because

(08:12):
of how it engages certain things in the brain, specifically
of if you are pregnant. So that's out there. You
can find it at Tony Kat's. Just search for the
podcast Tonycats Today and you'll be able to find it there.
But then he says there's two studies which show children

(08:34):
who are circumcised early have double the rate of autism.
It's highly likely because they were given tailano. Okay, well,
then there's a twenty fifteen study out of Denmark track
three hundred and forty three thousand gen Z boys, suggesting

(08:58):
circumcised males we're more likely to develop autism before the
age of ten compared to their non circumcised peers. That
is one heck of a thought. There are critics, you say,

(09:19):
this is the wrong way to look at it. There
are other things that one could look at. Are you
saying the actual act of circumcision or are you talking
about things in young children that cause distress that a
parent would give Thailand All four the first I have

(09:43):
heard of these studies. Go ahead and look at anything
you want, research anything you want. But if you want
something that's going to get pushback, well there. It is
also many many people get circumcised. Allow me, I remember

(10:06):
my circumcision like it was yesterday. I don't. I don't recall,
not me, my kids, tylenol, it didn't happen. As a
matter of fact, I don't. As a matter of just

(10:29):
to the extent that any of this is casual conversation,
I have never heard anybody discuss it, now agreed, How
many conversations am I in where it's like, so, what
did you do after the circumcision, after the brisk what
medicines did you give the kid? Like that's that's not
a normal conversation. But I certainly don't recall it to

(10:51):
the extent that that matters at all. I don't look
at things and say, oh my gosh, what a crackpot
thing to say. Look at these things, and I say,
so a kid might feel discomfort, and so you gave
something to relieve the discomfort. Huh? Does that happen a lot?
Are there other things that could cause discomfort? Isn't that?

(11:13):
Isn't that like the rational way to go about this?
I don't know. I think it's weird that he would
highlight specifically circumcision, But it's RFK Junior. Isn't this a
guy who like ran over a bear and then carried
it to New York? Right? So weird weird is something

(11:37):
I think applies in a big way. Also, today is
one month since the assassination of Charlie Kirk. If I
have the numbers right, yeah, I do. One month ago today,
which is crazy because so much has happened. It seems

(12:02):
like forever ago. It is not. This will get us
into a conversation about turning Point USA, which in many
ways makes me think I need to have a conversation
about Candace Owans, and I don't necessarily want to. Candace

(12:25):
Owens got her start with Charlie Kirk. She then went
on to build an insane career, and then her career
has been always you know how Israel's plotting against you.
I mean, it's the whole career. It's just it's just nuts.
For the record, I think the total amount I've spoken
about Candace Owans is six minutes on this show. In

(12:46):
all the time I've done the show. I've never been
a fan. I've never been interested. But there's a question
about whether or not that's a worthy conversation for us.
In that do I want to give her any more
press that she doesn't need. But Turning Point is doing
something very smart, right, She's not associated with Turning Point anymore.

(13:09):
Very smart. Regarding the super Bowl, this is the right idea.
Counter programming can work. The mayor of Chicago wants to
arrest ice agents. I want to play third base for

(13:31):
the Mets. That what was that to do with anything?
You don't always get what you want. Boo boo. That's
the that's just the way that is. Tony Katz ninety
three w IBC, Good morning, good to be with you.
He is now putting together these ice free zones. I

(13:52):
was on news Max yesterday discussing the gun free zones.
Of course worked so well an ice free zone. It's
it's a purposeful unseeriousness from pseudo intellectuals, children, the childlike
mind that things that somehow, if they just don't look
at the whole picture, the totality of reality, and that

(14:13):
everything's gonna be okay, that'll somehow suffice, and it won't.
It is the Chicago Mayor, Brandon Johnson who has said
that Trump wants a quote rematch of the Civil War.
They have nothing else. Listen, if everything that you see

(14:36):
is racial, everything you see is bigotry twenty four seven,
three sixty five, everything you see is gonna be bigotry.
That's the way it's gonna go. So what else could
you expect from him? Now, a executive order signed by

(14:58):
the mayor doesn't mean anything, doesn't do anything, doesn't change anything.
The mayor of Chicago doesn't get to decide how these
things are done or these things are handled. Now, there
is a judge that has blocked National Guard deployment to Illinois.
The judge is April Perry, rejecting Trump's argument that unruly

(15:20):
protests outside an ice facility in Chicago demands military intervention.
She says in her tro temporary restraining order that the
true deployment and act of quote, political retribution. I don't
find any evidence of impeding actually happened. If you take

(15:44):
a look at the Ninth Circuit Court, the Ninth Circuit
says the president can send in anything he wants. The
President gets to direct his resources as he deems fit.
It just seems a little counterintuitive to me that the
city of Portland can come in and say no, you
need to do it differently. This goes to the level
of deference. I think the president is entitled to accurate.

(16:09):
Who is this judge to decide whether or not there
is an issue? The judge was not elected, and the
judge doesn't have that authority. Let me say it again,
the judge doesn't have the authority. You may not think
that it rises to a level, and you are entitled
to that opinion, and you can act out upon that
opinion with your vote, but the judge doesn't get to

(16:30):
have that opinion. I don't care about the judge's opinion
about the safety insecurity of Chicago. I care about the law.
And also, if you don't like the fact that the
president has this authority, go about changing the laws. I'm
not here to tell you otherwise. Give it a shot,
see what happens. Let's see where America is on the subject.

(16:56):
Jim Jordan, he the Republican from Ohio, chairs the House
Judiciary Committee, has now stated that impeachment of judges who
issue quote, stupid rulings thwarting the president is on the table. Okay,

(17:18):
the history of our great country has been you don't
impeach judges for stupid decisions or bad decisions. What we
in common sense would say is a poor decision. But
I don't think you should rule out impeachment, correct, because
are we discussing poor decisions or are we discussing judicial activism?
Are we discussing judges who believe their role is to
thwart Trump? That's what judge Bosberg was doing in a

(17:41):
host of others regarding deportations. Everything is on the table
at all times. Now. The argument is you're threatening a
co equal branch of government. First of all, enough with
the co equal Secondly, why can the judiciary do anything
at wants to the executive, and the executive seemingly has

(18:03):
no power against the judiciary. Does that sound coequal to you?
And again, what's this coequal talk? We keep having another
conversation for another day. Tony Katz at ninety three WIBC,
Good morning. So everybody has had to mention now of
the peace deal. Everyone under the sun has had a

(18:27):
chance to weigh in here and give their thoughts, and
the vast majority of thoughts are that, my gosh, this
is fantastic. This is an incredible step. If the hostages
are released, that hamas a terrorist organization supported by people

(18:50):
right here in Indianapolis, right here in Indiana and sadly
across the country. If they give back the hostages, this
is an incredible, incredible victory. And from every single corner
you have seen the support for Trump in this deal.

(19:14):
Tony Katz, ninety three WIBC, Good morning. Great to be
with you. Find everything at tonykats dot com except for
Barack Obama. Barack Obama puts out a statement on Twitter
x that reads, after two years of unimaginable loss and
suffering for Israeli families and the people of Gaza, we

(19:35):
should all be encouraged them and lieved that an end
to the conflict is within sight, that those hostages still
being held to be reunited with their families, and that
vital aid can start reaching those inside Gaza whose lives
have been shattered. Okay, but is that it? No, no, no,
He's got more more than that, though. It now falls

(19:58):
on Israelis and palest Indians, with the support of the
US and the entire world community, to beget the hard
task of rebuilding Gaza and to commit to a process that,
by recognizing the common humanity and basic rights of both peoples,
can achieve a lasting piece. No mention of Trump. None,

(20:20):
I mean just not even a basic mention. You couldn't
say ata boy, You couldn't say well done. You couldn't
say we hope President Trump's efforts lead to the sustained peace.
We all hope for nothing. It's because he's weak, It's
because he's shallow. I had noted, as many did, no

(20:44):
mention of Donald Trump. No mention of Steve Whitcoff. Someone
responded to me, just be thankful he didn't respond. He
didn't post a picture of himself. Remember Obama used to
do that all the time. No matter the holiday, no
matter the thing, it was a picture of him. It
was always a picture of him. Him. He was the
original egomaniac. You think Trump's an egomaniac, which I would

(21:05):
agree with, My gosh, Barack Obama. And we should also
be clear that when you see Israelis celebrating in the streets,
we were told that the Israelis were engaged in a genocide.
But they're celebrating no more fighting. So that's listen. It's

(21:29):
not for me to have to try and understand how
the radical hater is going to square the circle on this.
You know, it's like the people who are talking about
Greta Tunberg. Oh, my gosh, her run in with the Israelis,
she was tortured by the Israelis. No one believes this.

(21:54):
She makes it up. They all lie, they all lie.
It's just important that we're aware of it at all times.
But for Barack Obama, it's an unwillingness just to be normal.
When someone does something right, you say so. If Joe

(22:14):
hog Seat actually did anything right, I would say so.
But that hasn't happened. That hasn't happened. It is madness
that we see, and what happens when you don't when

(22:39):
we when you don't say hey that was all right,
Hey that was a worthwhile idea, Hey, that was good work.
The there there is no way to bridge the gap.
And we should be clear that Barack Obama isn't trying
to bridge a gap. The basic human response to hey,

(23:03):
good work. Yeah, I don't like it on this one
the other, but that was good work doesn't exist for
these people, does not exist for them. Now, you're right,
I should never have expected such a thing. But it
is uh, it is notable, notable that he can put

(23:29):
that statement out and not get to a place where
he says, by the way, nice work. We're on day
ten of the government's shutdown. Still no one cares. And
I have been trying to figure out why, and I
think I have figured out why. And this is callous.

(23:54):
No one cares because no one's feeling any pain, something
certainly that we've discussed over the last couple days. So
what I've become convinced of is that the reason that
even though they are losing greatly in this public perception,
that the Democrats are not voting to undo the shutdown

(24:17):
is so they can get to the place where people
aren't getting paychecks, so they can go see they're not
getting paychecks. Look at what those Republicans are doing. And
now the press will eat that up. Because the press
has been very very quiet on this subject. They have
not been engaged on the subject. They haven't been discussing
what a shutdown means, how Democrats are looking, how the
polling is going, how the data shows that no one's

(24:39):
buying this story, especially with they're taking away health care.
It's a healthcare crisis. The Obamacare subsidies were agreed to
sunset at the end of December twenty twenty five by
the Democrats who voted for it in the Inflation Reduction
Act just a few years ago. They voted for it.
Now they want to claim Republicans are taking it away.

(25:00):
It's a lie. It's a fraud, that's all it is.
But I am now convinced and I know it is.
It's callous, it's an ugly thought. You tell me that's
not what they're doing. Gone, you didn't come to any

(25:20):
deal yesterday. We're now going to go through the weekend,
because lord forbid you work on a Saturday. They will
get to the fifteenth, when paychecks are supposed to go out,
and they don't go out and say, look at what
those Republicans have done, and that's when you'll see this
big explosion of conversation and every bit of viciousness they

(25:41):
can muster, and a Republicans should say, go past the
cr what's wrong with you? And then have lunch. Don't
fold to these people, which will bring us to a
conversation about people like Marjorie Taylor Green and Josh Holly
and reason number ninety two bajillion and why I am

(26:01):
not a populist. Drew Narsudis Wish, a TV meteorologist. What's happening?

Speaker 4 (26:09):
Just enjoying a chilly morning out there before we warm
up later in the morning hours. Temperatures across most of
the region below the forty five degree mark, which is
important to me because I got bit by a real
big mosquito earlier this weekend. Most mosquitos start dying off
when temperatures get below forty five degrees, so I am
celebrating that this morning. As we move towards the afternoon, however,
everyone can celebrate conditions which get warmer, a little cloudy

(26:32):
by the afternoon hours, but mostly dry. Here in the region,
and we stay dry and mild too warm throughout much
of the next few days ahead. So good weather news
for us may be bad news for some of the
mosquitos out there.

Speaker 1 (26:45):
This just in breaking news. Drew Narsuitis celebrates death.

Speaker 4 (26:51):
I'll do it. I'll do it every time for those guys.
I love being outdoors and they are the bane of
my existence.

Speaker 1 (26:57):
And so you like it when the mosquito dies.

Speaker 4 (27:00):
Yeah. Absolutely. The guy was huge. He has so much
of his so much of his blood. You should have
seen it.

Speaker 1 (27:07):
It was just nasty, hilarious, hilarious.

Speaker 4 (27:16):
Indeed, I'm glad you're not playing crickets at least.

Speaker 1 (27:19):
Oh no, oh no, I think we learned a lot
about you today, Drew.

Speaker 4 (27:22):
I think you always do you always do.

Speaker 1 (27:25):
I honestly think that everybody feels much safer that they're
in their cars and you're in a studio.

Speaker 4 (27:31):
That's probably fair.

Speaker 1 (27:32):
Drew nur Sudis, Wish TV meteorologist. The mystery has been solved.
Drew did it in the library with the fly swatter. Drew,
thank you. Forty one degrees in the American Standard Cooling
Weather Center at the time is seven to eight. Newpole

(28:04):
reports majority of Hoosiers opposed redistricting. Okay, this was a
story over there at the Indiana Capitol Chronicle, and let
me just say I have thoughts. Tony Katz, ninety three WIBC,
Good morning, Good to be with you. North Star Opinion
research on behalf of Independent Indiana found that fifty three

(28:29):
percent of Indiana registered voters don't support the move, compared
to thirty four percent in favor. This, of course, is
the conversation about saying to Indiana, you know, we draw
these districts right for who's going to are our districts
for congressional districts, and how we decide who we're voting
for for congress. Maybe we need to redraw these Now,

(28:53):
that happens usually when you have the census, which has
once every ten years, and then you you go about
redrawing the lines because population could add a district, to
take away a district, et cetera. The district says, we've
seen them are drawn in many places and rather goofy ways,
And there's the concepts of jerry mandering and all that jazz.
The very concept of creating a district and redistricting is

(29:15):
a political process and very often it goes about political lines.
I do not question this at all. I question what
the bloody heck Independent Indiana is because here's how it's written.
North Star Opinion Research, no idea who they are, which
is okay, I don't have to necessarily know. I don't

(29:36):
know every research group on behalf of Independent Indiana. So
north Star did the research, but Independent Indiana is the group.
Let's do this found that fifty three percent of Indiana
registered voters don't support the move, compared to thirty four
percent in favor. The Virginia based firm found that opposition

(29:59):
was slightly high are in the Indianapolis media market fifty
five percent compared to fifty one percent outside that area.
So first things first, the Virginia based firm is that
Independent Indiana or is that north Star Opinion Research, just
as I'm curious which one that is. Secondly, I'll go

(30:19):
back to where I started. Who is Independent Indiana? Who
is this group? Who are they? When did they get started,
who do they work with? Who do they get funding from?
Did I ask anything that is odd or strange there?

(30:42):
The answer is no, No, I did not. The polling
shows that Republicans support it more than independence and Democrats. Okay, fine,
what does this have to do with anything? First, I

(31:02):
don't know the group. Secondly, I don't know the questions asked. Third,
I don't know any bit of the skew. I have
been able to read into it. Six hundred and four
registered voters, a marginal era of three point nine to
nine percent, conducted October fourth to October seventh. This is

(31:26):
what north Star is putting out there. We're gonna break
this down even further. Allow me to say, redistrict do
it now, right now. The vice presidents in town today,
hold the special session, call the vote. If it doesn't pass,
it doesn't pass. If it doesn't happen, it doesn't happen.

(31:48):
But let's see it. Redistricting matters. This is a much
larger conversation than just us, and we should be aware
of it. Willing to debate anybody on the topic. Is
it ugly politics? You could say so, I'm not going
to stop you. Should it happen? Absolutely? Three one seven,

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The popcorn moment, Let's go, Let's go, Let's go, let's go.
It's a story you need to here to believe. Then

(33:59):
grab your popcorn because there is more. And yes, I
am going through everything regarding this polling on redistricting, and
yes I will take your phone calls to me on
seven two three nine ninety three ninety three. Tony at
tonycats dot com, Twitter ex at Tony Katz. I favor
redistricting and I think the Republicans are our post to
it are wrong. And I'm willing to debate this anywhere.

(34:21):
But before we go any further, a story that you
will see on the show sheet at Tonykatz dot com.
Drake lost in Court, Drake Kendrick Lamar that back and forth.
Uh the Canadian rapper. He had filed a lawsuit against

(34:43):
Universal Music Group for a distribution of Kendrick Lamar's song
not Like Us, where Drake is referred to as a
certified pedophile. Drake has said that's an attack on my reputation,
decreased my brand value. The judge said there was a

(35:05):
vitriolic war of words, but did not believe reasonable listeners
would have taken the insult to be fact. So Drake
lost this lawsuit, and he has said he only sees
it as a minor defeat. That's a long way to
go for that joke, Kylon. I worked hard for that.

(35:31):
Really nothing in the distance. I get no response for that.
A minor defeat. I'm talking about Drake and Kendrick, A
minor defeat. Nothing. Your kids right now in the car,
like Tony Kats is awesome, But no, not Kylon. Kylon's
too old and out of the loop. But your kids,

(35:56):
You're welcome kids. Did you even get the joke, Kylon? Oh? Yeah,
a minor you know, a little bit of response, you know,
at least Carl laughs with that, insane I'm demonically possessed
laugh right, and everyone's like, is the laugh real? Everything

(36:16):
about producer Carl is very, very real. That's as authentic
as it gets. He is on assignment. I think he's back.
I think he's back next week. So we will we
will catch a Carl. Then, what did I have for you?
What did I have for you? In in my popcorn moment,
because there's a bunch I would play Robert de Niro

(36:37):
urging Americans to join the No King's protests, but he's
probably gonna curse and he's really boring, So no, no,
I don't plan on doing that. Right there, there's this.
This may very well now be a de Niro a
free zone. Letitia James has been indicted. I got you

(36:58):
all choked up just thinking about it. The Attorney General
of New York who flat out lied on mortgage forms.
She's been indicted on bank fraud and false claims charges.
She is indicted for what she claims Donald Trump did,
and she is making the strong statements, all right, not

(37:23):
necessarily strong.

Speaker 5 (37:24):
But this, this is nothing more than a continuation of
the president's desperate weaponization of our justice system. He is
forcing federal law enforcement agencies to do his bidding, all
because I did my job as a New York State
Attorney General, these charges are baseless, and the president's own

(37:48):
public statements make clear that his only goal is political
retribution at any cost.

Speaker 1 (37:55):
You ran for office saying that you were going to
sue him. This was your entire campaign. Latitia James, don't
talk to us about retribution. Attorney General. You bought a
three bedroom home in Norfolk, Virginia in August of twenty
twenty for one hundred and thirty seven thousand dollars, which

(38:16):
was financed by a loan for one hundred and nine thousand,
six hundred dollars that prohibited it from being used as
a rental investment property. So you falsified the document by
putting lies on the document because you did rent it out,

(38:36):
so you would have saved a little over or i
should say, almost nineteen thousand dollars over the life of
the loan. Neighbors said, we've never seen her. We've never
seen Letitia James here. It's like neighbors in Indiana saying
we never have seen Evan Bye here because he didn't

(38:57):
live here. That's just reality. Your income tax form show
you took in rental income. You did this. Now innocent
until proven guilty. Let the courts happen, do their job.
Let let the system work. Fine by me. But you

(39:19):
want to talk about this is just retribution. You broke
the law. There is a case here. Should the argument
be that anybody who ever did anything duplicitous, ugly, obscene
or gross regarding President Trump, now nothing can happen to
them because that's all just an act of retribution. What
a nice little get out of jail free card. Don't

(39:42):
forget to punch somebody in the face first, because they'll
never be able to punch you back otherwise. Well, what
kind of retribution is this? This story, this lawsuit is
going to be a fun one. Oh, I do I

(40:02):
think she did it? Absolutely? She did Absolutely, she did it.
I don't even think there's a question in anyone's mind.
Then President Trump was meeting with the president of Finland,
which has been a very interesting relationship and a conversation

(40:24):
that's worthy based on a conversation we had with Senator
Todd Young broke out.

Speaker 6 (40:28):
I was with you, and I ended up meeting you
and knowing you, and I heard about Finland and they're icebreakers,
and I said, do me a favorite. Would you have
your people take a look at what these people are
doing and came out that just as I thought, they
had no idea what they were doing, and we got
involved and we ended up We need we need these
ships very badly because we have we have a lot

(40:50):
of territory, more than anybody, and so I'm very honored
to have this deal, and thank you very much.

Speaker 3 (40:56):
It's going to be great.

Speaker 1 (40:57):
It's going to be a great partnership. We need to
build more ships of all types, cargo ships and ships
in military purposes and for other purposes. And so to
recognize that Finland has a better technology than we do,
we should be working on that or buying from them
or figuring out how to do that. This is good.

(41:17):
We had centered Todd Young on the show talking about
we need to build more ships of all kinds. I
am a believer in the three hundred and forty ship Navy.
Unquestionably good. These are nice, proactive smart steps. I like
seeing it. And the relationship with Finland is going to
further infuriate Vladimir Putin now Finland being part of NATO

(41:39):
and all, yep, all comes full circle, doesn't it. Whenever
I'm out of wandering chasing a rainbow dream, I often
stop and think about the police side scene today on

(42:02):
the marketplace used picks with songs and tails of yesterday.
Sounds weird to say. They say goodbye. It sounds weird
to say. Indeed. Tony Kats ninety three w ib C,
good morning, what is going on the podcast? Wherever did
you get your podcast? Tony Cats of the Morning News?
Be sure to be subscribing. It's good for you. It

(42:23):
builds character, is what it does. Right there, and of
course live streaming YouTube dot com, slash wi b C.
And I just realized my lighting is is all. Come
back now, my lighting's better. Now, come back now, it's better.
I have a lovely little bit of purple behind me,
and the light was a skew. It was a miss.

Speaker 7 (42:42):
Lovely little purple. Now happy little purple.

Speaker 1 (42:45):
Now it's special. Matt bear Joy does you catch him
on the on the live stream as well? There he
is looking fantastic. Matt bear You would consider yourself a
guitar virtuo, so would you not?

Speaker 8 (42:59):
Yes?

Speaker 7 (43:00):
Yes, I like to double neck guitar and play it
in the traffic center.

Speaker 1 (43:03):
Right just sit there between your traffic reads and yeah,
and you're doing you know, you're just you're you're You're
like Ralph Macchio and cross Roads. Yes not Stephen Vaie No, no, no,
Ralph macchiof was Steven anyway, Steven Vite did all the music.
That's not the point. Uh, Are you a concert guy?
You've been to a lot of concerts, been to a

(43:24):
lot of shows, seeing a lot of music, taking it
in live.

Speaker 7 (43:26):
I've seen some good amount of shows. I haven't been
in a long time, but yeah, I've seen good concerts.

Speaker 1 (43:31):
Man, dear creek, baby, your creek. It's the answer for everything. Yeah,
this person right here is selling nine concert used guitar picks.

Speaker 7 (43:42):
Oh is that what these are? Okay?

Speaker 1 (43:43):
Look, the cell is a bundle of the lot includes
many famous musicians and bands, so I have to assume
that these were picks from the actual shows. So there's
a Luke Bryan one, there's Jimmy Buffett twenty fourteen, there's
Huey Lewis, oh co, Toby Keith is there, and then

(44:04):
there's some Deaf Leppard, Oh, deaf Leppard of the top
right Chicago.

Speaker 7 (44:08):
Okay, these are fake top metal?

Speaker 1 (44:10):
You think these are fake?

Speaker 7 (44:11):
Well, Chicago never used a guitar. That was a band
with just horns, So now we know it's not real.

Speaker 1 (44:15):
It wasn't a band with just horn.

Speaker 7 (44:17):
That's all that. They had like four trum bones in
a tuba, and that's all Chicago and Chicago was awesome,
Chicago Trans Authority and then Pize Satra ruined it with
his adult contemporary music. But just saying, I have my
doubts here.

Speaker 1 (44:30):
You know, did you just go on a Peter Satara rant?

Speaker 7 (44:34):
No, I have no prob it wasn't a rant. I'm
just saying, you know it's it wasn't because I mean,
Chicago Trans Authority. That was some good, good instrumentation band.
I mean, you know beginning, you know, when they're doing
the I guess there was a gun. There was a
guitar in that song beginnings, now that I think about, Okay,

(44:55):
everything I just said was false. I'm sorry to this gentleman.
Yeah there's guitar in Chicago. It's guitar. Yeah, yes, I
love that.

Speaker 8 (45:03):
Song, but.

Speaker 1 (45:06):
Only not beginning. What oh you're singing it?

Speaker 7 (45:12):
Yeah? That was that was my rock voice.

Speaker 1 (45:14):
Oh, I got it. I wasn't sure what was happening.
I thought you were having a stroke.

Speaker 7 (45:22):
I feel great.

Speaker 1 (45:23):
I was I was not. I was unaware. That you
were just gonna hum a few bars.

Speaker 7 (45:30):
Yeah. Now that I've had my stroke, I feel better.
Thank you. Good I was.

Speaker 1 (45:37):
I was concerned.

Speaker 7 (45:39):
Luke Bryan, Oh god, this is a good one too.
I love this song, yet not.

Speaker 9 (45:46):
Yet so good.

Speaker 1 (46:04):
Okay?

Speaker 7 (46:08):
Is that Pizzatara.

Speaker 1 (46:11):
In Chicago? Yeah?

Speaker 7 (46:13):
Yeah, Now I know he came along later, but I
didn't know if the really good music was Pize Satara,
Like my memories clouded from all the things I used
to do.

Speaker 1 (46:21):
You know, it's been a long time since I was
the recording secretary of the Peters Terra Luck. Peter Satara
was the original member on bass.

Speaker 7 (46:31):
Okay, that is accurate, Okay, all right. I wanted to
make sure I was given the right facts here. You
know that's right from the traffic Center.

Speaker 1 (46:40):
Well, I appreciate that. Point is do you want these
guitar picks, nine of them for ninety nine dollars?

Speaker 7 (46:44):
Yeah, I'm in, you're in. Yeah, absolutely make a great
Christmas gift.

Speaker 1 (46:49):
It's it's basically eleven dollars a pick.

Speaker 7 (46:52):
Yeah, and you hit about and you'd be like I
was at this concert. I was at this concert.

Speaker 1 (46:56):
You can basically you weren't at any of these concerts.

Speaker 7 (46:59):
Right, I mean you know that people you're gifting to
you know.

Speaker 1 (47:02):
Oh okay, so you're going to buy people as a
gift picks to concerts you were at.

Speaker 7 (47:08):
Yes, yes, absolutely, it would be a lot of fun Christmas.

Speaker 1 (47:12):
Yeah, yep. And that kids, is why I'm Jewish. You
can find this at WBC dot com. We've got everything
there at the marketplace. By the way, did I even
like talk? I didn't even do like the intro, I
didn't even do I went right into it.

Speaker 7 (47:30):
I love Unclaimed Indiana.

Speaker 1 (47:32):
Man Indiana Unclaimed.

Speaker 7 (47:33):
Oh yeah, even better.

Speaker 1 (47:35):
Wow, we went so into it. So let me explain
to you what just happened. Let me go back in
time during downtime, I'm clearing my head. I'm getting ready
for its next other show. I can't believe I did that.
I can't believe I did that. Sorry. I find myself
on Facebook marketplace. Cool stuff on stuff, weird stuff, strange up,
all sorts of stuff is there on the marketplace, and

(47:58):
we bring you some of the things that we find.
It is presented by Indiana Unclaimed dot Gov. Indiana Unclaimed
dot Gov. It's your cash, It's it's waiting for you.
Go get it. Indiana Unclaimed dot gov is where you
go and so yeah, so I usually give the explanation
and then talk about what is we found. I was
fixing the light I forgot, I went right into it.
I never brought it up. We've been doing this so

(48:19):
long that I just figure everybody's with me. But there
are lots of new people listening all the time. So
I want to apologize to you that that was inconsiderate
and Matt Behar will never do that again.

Speaker 7 (48:28):
I blame tariffs.

Speaker 1 (48:30):
Bravo. Thank you, Tony Kats. You find everything from the
marketplace at WIBC dot com, presented by Indiana Unclaimed dot Gov.
Tony Katz, ninety three, WIBC, Good Morning. Not performing at
the Turning Point USA halftime show, Will Smith, which is

(48:51):
too bad because I'm sure a set would be slapping
so that one gets a laugh. That Drake joke doesn't wow,
kylen My Gosh. Tony Katz, ninety three, WIBC, Good Morning,
Good to be with you. I'm working on more dad

(49:13):
jokes each and every day. That would be kind of
like a dad joke, right, absolutely, yeah, I think it would.
Obif there I could do better. I can do better
turning point. USA got announced yesterday they are going to
have a halftime show to compete with the Super Bowl. Smart,

(49:35):
very very very smart. I was on Newsmax yesterday and
discussing this, and I was referring to it as counterculture,
which is I think, to an extent accurate in that
you're going to engage this counterprogramming to the NFL putting

(49:56):
bad Bunny on your screen. Go ahead, performed, but you
go after immigrations and customs enforcement. You got yourself your
opinions there as if somehow you're accurate, I don't think
you're I don't give a good Holy damn, how many
fans you have. Wrong is wrong, A legal immigration is wrong.

(50:16):
A legal immigrant should be removed, and that's all there
is to it, and legal immigrants should be welcomed with
open arms, and we should be pushing legal immigration. We're
better off with it. I do believe this, as long
as of course, you actually believe in the nation and
believe in the laws of the nation. And so when
anybody says we shouldn't allow immigrations and Customs enforcement to

(50:37):
follow the law that's on the books to remove a
legal immigrants, I look at them askew and ask what
kind of American are you? It's on the books, say
that you disagree with the law, don't say it's okay
to attack ICE agents in the streets. There's a difference
between the two things. Blank Ice, it's not us worthy.

(50:59):
Argument doesn't make you tough, doesn't make it tough, doesn't
make it special. Usually just makes you a jerk. But
they're putting bad Bunny on there, and there's an international
audience that he's going to be able to get in.
That's Dueko's that's it right. Not everybody's gonna want to
watch that. Why not capitalize in that audience. The NFL

(51:20):
is gonna do all the work in talking about this,
and now you get to say, okay, we'll capitalize on it.
So turning point, USA has said they're gonna do their
own show. One has to assume that that kid Rock
could very well attend. One could assume John Rich is
going to attend. One could assume they've got all different
types of people who might want to perform. I don't

(51:43):
know how it's gonna go do. I think Lee Greenwood
is the guy who should be performing. Now. I'm nothing
against Lee Greenwood. I just think that if you're going
to culturally fight, you have to culturally fight and do
it strong. Is it possible he is there to do

(52:05):
God bless the USA. Absolutely it's possible. Absolutely. Do I
think that you need to go stronger. I do conceptually
love the idea, absolutely love it. But in all of
these things, and there's this really fascinating story about this

(52:26):
radio host. I never pronounced his last name, right, my
taxis that's it. He's a radio host, Eric Metaxas. He's
with Salem and he I don't know how he got
the dollars. They actually he actually tried a late night show.

(52:48):
The Late Night Show. He is basically saying, I'm a
conservative and so I'm gonna talk about only conservative things
as opposed to entertaining. And so it was a a
vicious write up about it from The Guardian, and you
gotta take the Guardian with massive grains of salt. I
favor people trying these things. What I don't favor is

(53:09):
the idea that somehow, because you're on the political right,
you have lost any capacity to recognize culture, or be
funny or be entertaining. And that's the problem the conservatives,
myself included in terms of I'm a conservative, except I'm entertaining.
Conservatives seem to want to shy away from the ideas

(53:35):
of actual entertainment, and one should not do that, shy
away from culture. One should not do that. Well, we're
gonna have a real conservative show. What does that even mean?
It's kind of a valueless proposition. You need to be

(53:55):
able to entertain if you're going to discuss politics. There
are things people do on the political right that are
worthy of mocking. But that's enough about Marjorie Taylor Green.
You have to be able to go at the things
fully and completely, and you can still put your point
of view in there. Of course, you can't just create

(54:16):
the show and be like it's for conservatives. No, it
has to be for an audience. And so I would
only advise turning point USA to be about the audience,
because I think there's a larger audience that people realize
that just don't think Bad Bunny is the who think
I should say that Bad Bunny is not the right fit.

(54:47):
The Indiana Clowns return as part of Banana Ball Tony
Katz ninety three WIBC. I'll get to that story, but
I said it open up the phones and discuss redistricting.
The Vice president will be town to go to Republicans
and say, oh no, no, no, we should redraw the lines,

(55:07):
we should redistrict. Tell Andre Carson and Frank Levan, you're
going to actually have to run in a district where
it might be competitive. We have a very large scale
conversation to have about what's going on across the country
and what has already happened with the redistrict that took
place that made Illinois look at Illinois and California look
like California. What Texas did they're allowed to do legally,

(55:33):
it's a political Maybe there's no problem. What California did
was retribution. If you want to see retribution take place,
you're going to lose Republicans. This is the argument I
favor the redistricting. The Indiana Capitol Chronicle was sharing a
poll there from a group called north Star Opinion Research

(55:54):
on behalf of independent Indiana that I know nothing about,
and it says that the major already of Hoosier's opposed
this fifty. You found a slim majority there. I'm not
sure if everybody even understands the subject. And I said,
I'll discuss this with anybody John is on the line,
John four or against redistricting, And why.

Speaker 10 (56:16):
Well, I'm sort of neutral on this because you know,
they had a chance to redistrict in twenty and I
ran against Andre Carson last election, and you know it
used to have the southern part of Marion County in it,
and then in twenty they redrew the line to make
the District seven even harder for a Republican to win

(56:37):
because they were afraid of losing a district five and
maybe six. So I think that the pensulum could swing
back the other way very quickly.

Speaker 1 (56:48):
What you're engaged in, I appreciate the call, John. What
you're engaged in is the very concept of risk, the
idea that you could redraw the lines, but what if
you lose. I accept that that is a risk. I
accept that it is a risk, and I say, okay.
My value proposition is that we are dealing with people nationwide.

(57:15):
Because this wasn't supposed to be a nationwide conversations with
a Texas conversation. I didn't come to the place of, oh,
we should do this until California decided to act in retribution.
Texas did this thing, so we as a state will
somehow rewrite our lines and we'll show them, well what

(57:35):
happens when this starts taking place everywhere? And so yes,
I believe that in a political fight one should be
politically proactive. And the idea that this is beneath us.
I'm sorry. I've heard members of the General Assembly say this.
I think they're wrong. I've heard Mitch Daniel say this.
I believe he is wrong on this subject. It's okay,
he's right on a bunch of things. He's wrong on this.

(57:59):
But you can't say that, oh, we can't redraw here
because it might hurt there. You can't say well, we
can't do anything because at least now we're safe. That's
not it. It is not a value proposition. Everything has
a risk. You could redraw the line and Republicans could
lose the district. It's possible. It is absolutely possible that

(58:24):
you redraw the seventh and yet you still don't win
the seventh. Absolutely possible. I still believe in the redistricting,
and that argument doesn't move me. Also, I'm not interested
in right now in anybody who's neutral. I want to
hear if somebody's got a thought, if you've got a position,
I want to hear it because I want to hear it.

(58:44):
Maybe you're gonna say something I haven't thought of. I
don't mind. Tony Katz, that's me, by the way, what's
up everybody, ninety three WIBC, Good morning. So the Banana Ball,
which is of course the Savannah butas and how this
thing has exploded and if it's entertaining and people are like,

(59:07):
you know what, I just want to be entertained for
a night. And it's fun and that's cool, great, fantastic.
What they created is kind of amazing, and its growth
is amazing, and how everybody's jumping in on it and
celebrity it's amazing. And now they're bringing about some other teams.
They're creating more of a league about this. Tony Katz

(59:29):
at ninety three WIBC, Good Morning. What I did not
know is that Jesse Cole who bought the Savannah Bananas
basically for a nickel and created this whole world. I
didn't know that the Savannah Bananas were inspired by the
Indianapolis Clowns, which was a team that was in the

(59:52):
Negro Leagues in the forties. I had no idea, no
clue the Clowns are coming back. So they are going
to play May fifteenth and sixteenth in twenty twenty six

(01:00:19):
against the Party Animals. I don't know who the Party
Animals are, but neither here nor there. Fun This is very,
very cool, and I would argue there's opportunities to build
around this with first of all, not only this team

(01:00:42):
and what it could be for Indy. But maybe I've
missed it in all the years I've been here. Do
we have any type of memorial to the clowns? Do
we have any type of history, any type of museum,
any type of anything to that, because that would be
something to say. I do believe that one of the

(01:01:04):
things we are missing is more arts downtown. I am
on record. You need more things for people to do
that are not bar and restaurant related. You need more
reasons for families to be able to come downtown and
then decide to grab lunch. You have better opportunities that way.

(01:01:26):
It cannot be all convention and bar business. It's just
it's not well rounded enough. That's why I have favor
of Performing Arts Center, and I certainly favor museums stuff
like this, Stuff like this that a father and his
kids could spend an hour in forty five minutes in.

(01:01:49):
It doesn't have to be massively expansive, but tell the
story is a great idea, and it would be and
I think it would be welcomed. Now. According to Kylon,
the Children's Museum has an exhibit dedicated to the Clowns.
Very cool. I've meant to the Children's Museum in a while.

(01:02:10):
My problem there is is that I the children Museum
is terrific, but I want something specifically downtown. I want
people to be able to walk to it, get to it,
then walk to something else, go to there, and then
go to a game, go to there, and then go
grab lunch. It's to say we have it at the
Children's Museum. Is I just think that we need more here.

(01:02:36):
I do believe that Children's Museum is built in the
wrong spot. I've always thought so it's great. I'm not
saying no, but built in the wrong spot. We should
want it as part of downtown and build that out
and more and create more intensity there. So I'm glad
they have it in a museum to it doesn't have

(01:02:58):
to be that big. I And by the way, it
doesn't specifically have to be this. There are probably one
hundred other things. If you are in a Gamebridge Field
House and you go to where it was like the
PACER's offices are, and I'm assuming you can get to
seats that way. There are these fantastic photos that line
the walls of the pacers in parts of Indianapolis. That's

(01:03:21):
a museum. People people would pay or donate to see
these things. I do not know what the USA Daughters
are going to do with the Jim Mersey collection, but
the answer is a museum here right not to any
place else, right here in India, unquestionable. You want to

(01:03:42):
attach it to to Lucas Oil Stadium and go ahead,
no question. We just just more of these things, is
what it is that we need? More of these things
is exactly what it is that we should want. That's

(01:04:05):
that is my take, That is my philosophy. I said
that I was taking calls about redistricting. Should we or
should we not? That is the question. David is on
the line, David, your take on redistricting. Should Republicans do it?

Speaker 11 (01:04:25):
Yes, they should. We elect a federal Congress every two years,
we elect a General Assembly every two years. We the
people speak through the legislature, and if we the people
want our state to participate differently in the federal in

(01:04:46):
shaping the federal level of government. That we have every
right to read district and I would say every two years.
We don't need to limit and put ourselves in pigeonhole
box of pen years.

Speaker 1 (01:05:02):
We need right. So the ten yere thing is because
of the census. A census every ten years is mandated
by the Constitution, and then redistricting takes play kiss after that.
Your argument is a political process. You can redistrict any
time you choose.

Speaker 11 (01:05:17):
You take the census every ten years, but you elect
a new Congress, and that in Indiana as a state.

Speaker 2 (01:05:25):
Has a right to mold its state representation in Washington.

Speaker 11 (01:05:31):
How Indiana as a state sees fit.

Speaker 2 (01:05:35):
And Indiana elects a new General Assembly every two years,
and the General Assembly is the best voice of state
government that speaks for the will of the people of
the state of Indiana.

Speaker 1 (01:05:50):
David, I appreciate the phone call quite a bit. I
favor the redistricting, and he's making an argument that I
don't think many people have heard of before. We do
a thing because we do a thing, not because that's
the thing that should be done, or how it necessarily
has to be done. So are we going with tradition

(01:06:10):
or are we going with data? Are we going with uh?
What is possible? Who said this can't be done? Considering
redistricting as a political process, I absolutely favor the redistricting.
The Vice President is in town, and Republicans should make
this happen. I don't think there's any question that they should.

(01:06:32):
And I know that there are some Republicans whore opposed
to it, and I believe they're opposed to it for
the idea of this is beneath us. And then there's
the idea of we're not going to do Washington's bidding.
We should do our bidding again. I've opened up the
phone lines three, one, seven, two, nine, ninety three, ninety three.
I know people are like to Tony, just take two

(01:06:53):
phone calls. Yes, yes, So that means this year I've
taken two phone calls. I know. I know I don't
take many. It wasn't how I came up in radio.
It's not how I learned. When I got here. It
was like, yeah, yeah, if you don't want you, that's fine.
Some hosts are very very focused on it. I never

(01:07:16):
have been. But that's not that I don't want to
hear from you. I love you, booboo, you know I do.
Come on now, come back to bed. Baby. Wait hold
on what sorry? Sorry, no, not I said what I said.
Time to fill up on the news. Tony Katz ninety
three WIBC, Good morning, Good to be with you. Doubt

(01:07:37):
futures are up seventy six NASDAK futures are up thirty four.
Oil prices down sixty dollars and sixty one cents on
the West Texas crude per barrel Brent crude sixty four
dollars and thirty cents a barrel. The Tenure treasury down
a little bit four point zero nine six. We've been
following gold and silver as of late, right now thirty

(01:08:01):
nine hundred and eighty four dollars on the gold price.
That's per ounce silver forty nine eighty nine. It did
crack fifty yesterday, went a little bit higher. I think
it was at fifty one yesterday. We'll see what today
brings on that price. But again, I tell you what

(01:08:22):
I've got it, Kylin. I'm not gonna forget. I'm not
gonna forget this time. I promise. I promised you, Kylin.
Kylin was worried I was going to forget about our
good sponsor, Simple Quarters, and I wasn't going to I
wasn't going to do it, but she was. She did
the right thing. She whispered in my ear, so I
will do it now to get to make sure I

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don't forget. Thank you. I was gonna do everything, and
then I was gonna say it. I was gonna try
it that way. I was gonna do the solver. I
was gonna be the gold, and then I was gonna say.
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Quarters three one seven nine hundred Home bringing you Phillip
on the News. Should I do it before and after?
You know what? You know what we're gonna do, Kylon,
We're going to record a new intro and we're going
to put it right in there.

Speaker 7 (01:09:17):
I like it.

Speaker 1 (01:09:17):
I'm putting you in charge. You're going to record it.

Speaker 9 (01:09:19):
Challenge accepted.

Speaker 1 (01:09:21):
It's time to fill up on the News with Tony Katz,
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wasn't bet See, you're not the only one who can
read things, Kylon.

Speaker 7 (01:09:38):
Like a probe Tony.

Speaker 9 (01:09:39):
No, I'm really proud.

Speaker 1 (01:09:41):
I am to thank you. Weird, but okay, we will
take it. Uh, we will continue following those oil prices
we've been talking I mean those oil prices and those
metal prices. We've been talking about redistricting. And I opened
up the phones. I've got the chat room going, my
live stream there on YouTube YouTube dot com, slash wibc,

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and to people saying, why don't we open it up
to the people to the vote. It's not conseructing, And
I reject that premise that, of course it's conservative. It's
a political process. It's not even a question of conservative
or not. It's a political process. Well, you should open
it up to the voters. Are you afraid to open
up to the voters. The voters can make the change

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by voting out their representative who may have voted for
redistricting or not. That's always the way it is. But
it doesn't work well with me on the idea of
why don't you open up to the voters. I'm the
guy who wants to get rid of the direct election
of senators. The direct election of senators is not Senators
are supposed to be chosen by state legislatures. We took

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rights away from the states. Well, we opened it up
to the people. We opened it up to the mob.
We want the Senate to be something fundamentally different from
the House. This was what the founders wanted, and they
were right, and the move to change from that to
the direct election of senators was wrong. But this is

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all part of nineteen thirteen, the tilt of America, the
Federal Reserve wrong, direct election of senators wrong, the income
tax wrong. Goodness gracious, but we're talking about redistricting. Vice
President Vance is coming into town. Do you favorite? Do
you not favor it? Merle joins me right now. I
appreciate you calling in. Merle not in favor of the redistricting.

Speaker 8 (01:11:32):
Not in favor of redistricting.

Speaker 1 (01:11:35):
Give me the wise.

Speaker 8 (01:11:37):
Oh well, my main reason is that we don't do
a good enough job every two years of seeing where
our census stands. And this is built specifically on a
census done every ten years. So if you're only doing

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the census every ten years, which is what we do.
Then once the census is done, then it should be
done strictly on how many people live in this square mile,
how many people live in that square mile, or whatever
geographic district you want to do. It should not be

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based on how many Republicans live in this square mile
and how many Democrats live in that square mile. Okay,
it should simply be a numbers game as to.

Speaker 4 (01:12:35):
It.

Speaker 8 (01:12:36):
And it should also be done as uh, economic isn't
the right word.

Speaker 6 (01:12:43):
It should.

Speaker 8 (01:12:43):
It should be done strictly on how many people live
in a certain areas.

Speaker 1 (01:12:49):
So I'm going to interrupt it for a moment, Merle,
because I think you're getting a lot of people to
shake their head in agreement with you. One of the
things that I think would we can we would all
agree we're are, this is where we are politically. It
would drive us nuts is we see districts not drawn
to the specification that you are discussing, which I think
most people shake their head in agreement. Yes, that's how

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we should draw it. Like a basic grid, it gets
drawn to the other considerations. Now we could agree we
don't want it drawn to the other considerations. We want
it drawn to a basic grid. Here's how many people,
Here's how we apply it. But once you say okay,
here we are here, we're going to base it on
the number of people, you have to determine where a

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cutoff is. My argument back to you, and I do
think people agree with you on the basics, is that
there is no way to pull the politics out of
this because where that line is where you decide this
is a line. You know, this is the seventh district,
and that's the fifth district. That's the fifth district, and
that's the sixth district. That line is a political consideration

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in all ways. There's no other way to do it,
you know, to say, well that sounds right, is not.
It's certainly a laudable enough thought process, but isn't the
way it's going to happen. So it is political. Now
your other part of your stable, which I think people
would agree on. We have a census every ten years.

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How are you going to change things mid district If
you don't know how things mid decade, if you don't
know how things have changed, I would argue that that's
less of a consideration. In my head, it's if the
district is improperly drawn. If you are engaged in a
political fight, you can engage politically that you wouldn't want

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to that you think that this stuff should be away
from that. I think you can make those votes. I
think you get people to appreciate that. But I appreciate
your call, and I just I hope I've given you
something to think about on the other side on how
that works. More of this coming up. I'm Tony Katz
ninety three WIVC. Good morning, Hmmm, It's time to play

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America's favorite game. What the heck is that television theme song?
Here's how we play our game. Producer Kylin in form
producer Carl. This week he's on assignment picks a television
theme song from yesteryear. I have to guess what it is, uh,
And I'm looking at some responses on the twitters. They're

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about redistricting and I just find I find them be headshakers.
I'll get to that. I have to now guess what
that theme song is and I have no idea, uh
of what that theme song is. Absolutely not played again there,
Kylon played again. If I have I have absolutely no clue.

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Matt Bear, I'm gonna photo friend Matt Bear. What is
this television theme song.

Speaker 7 (01:16:31):
That's half gun Will Travel.

Speaker 1 (01:16:32):
Tony, I don't even know what that is. Oh, it's
an old Western According to Sean and Brad and Stephanie,
this is the theme the Friday Night Lights.

Speaker 4 (01:16:43):
Well done to them. Can I give them a correct?

Speaker 1 (01:16:46):
Yes? There it is there, it is. Yeah. I would
not have known that was it? Full Heart's clear eyes
can't fail something like that. I never watched the show,
so I don't know. But that is Friday Night Lights.
I would not have gotten that.

Speaker 11 (01:17:04):
It's perfect for tonight?

Speaker 1 (01:17:06):
Was true enough? True enough? So on Tony Kats Today
at noon we will be discussing more about this redistricting,
and of course will we see the hostages returned. As
the Israeli Kanesse has finalized and approved the peace deal,
President Trump is heading to Israel to speak at the Kanesse,

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where he has been invited to speak, and all the
people still angry. Oh, the fight's not over. The Palestinians
must fight for We get it, We get it, We
see you, we the free and thinking world. We know
that you want to eliminate Israel, eliminate the Jews, then

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Western civilization. We got it. The answer is no, and
the fight is on and we should win the fight
and you should lose the fight. And that's all there
is to it, nothing, nothing or simple than that. So
I will have that story. And wait, I had something
else that I wanted to get. Oh gosh, Jimmy Kimmel. First,

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there's the absolute doozy of Jimmy Kimmel wanting you to
somehow believe that Antifa is not real. Did you hear this?
Did I not share this? Already? Goodness gracious.

Speaker 4 (01:18:28):
Making sure we're bringing those individuals to justice. One of
the individuals we arrested recently.

Speaker 8 (01:18:33):
In Portland was the girlfriend of one of the founders
of Antifa.

Speaker 1 (01:18:37):
Finally they got the girlfriend of one of the founders
of Antifa. We understand there's no Antifa. This is an
entirely imaginary organization. There is not an Antifa. This is
no different than if they announced they rounded up a
dozen Decepticons. What else can one say? They're carrying the

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flags going back to pre World War two Germany. They're
the ones who are self described. They don't exist. Antifa,
like Jimmy Kimmel's ratings, don't exist, which is why Kimmel

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is inviting Donald Trump onto a show because he wants ratings.
He's desperate for ratings, begging for ratings, and they are
not coming. I will get to that. Also, as I
said talking about the redistricting, I disagree with a whole

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bunch of people on this. I favor the redistricting, and
I know there are people here at IBC who don't
and people in the state legislator. That's fine. We're all
grown ups. We all have different opinions. If I saw
a post from Abdul Abdul keep Shabaz, you've seen pictures

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where he's like, oh, they're very worried about this. In
the state House, nobody wants this, and especially because they
haven't had a special session on property taxes. Allow me again,
these two things are not equal things, which is to say,
if you want a special session on property taxes, ten

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thousand users need to show up at the state House
and demand it. You think I like paying this, you
think I'm happy with what they did, this ridiculousness put
forth by the General Assembly, and Republicans have the audacity
to look at us and tell us, hey, you're welcome.
It's terrible. There is no one who doesn't discuss the issue.

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The only people I've heard not discussing the issue are
people who live in Mary and Kenny. You're like, is
it gonna save me three hundred dollars a year? Thanks Braun.
They're so elitist and out of touch that they must
be dismissed, because look, how to dismissed If they are
a Hofoosier's everybody's paying more and more. It is abusive.
I agree. That has nothing to do with whether or
not you have a special session about redistricting. They are

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two different subjects. Don't say, well, if you don't do this,
you can't do that. That is a nutty argument. And
I put forth that people engaged in that nutty argument
are indeed nutty. There's nothing wrong with the conversation about redistricting,
and it should happen. It should happen. Should we have
a special session on property taxes? Yes, But in both cases,

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if you have members of the General Assembly not doing
the job that you think they should be doing, vote
them out. Stop this this crying and what vote them out?
Work on just one pick one member of the General Assembly.
Focus all the attention there, vote them out of office.
Primary them. Now, I favor this in every way. I'll

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catch you guys at noon. Ken and Casey are up next,
and and uh Matt barrays traffic