Tony Katz and the Morning News Full Show 10-14-25

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Ryan Morris Wish, a TV meteorologist. What are we feeling and.

Speaker 2 (00:05):
Fantastic for today? Today is going to be our warmest
day of the week. In the upper seventies, mostly Sunday skies,
winds also pretty calm through the afternoon. Tonight mostly clear,
turning partly cloudy in the early morning hours. Low temperatures
in the mid fifties. Cold Front number one arrives for tomorrow.
It's a weekfront. Dives into our area in the morning,

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brings some more cloud cover, but sprinkles likely lingering in
northern Indiana. Don't get down to Central Indiana. Mostly cloudy skies,
tempatures in the lower seventies through the next couple of days.
We start to warm back up Friday in the mid seventies.
But the weekend is the one to watch. We'll have
a secondary cold front on the way. This could bring
a heavy rain and storm chant at some point in

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the day Saturday into Saturday night. High temperatures to follow
Sunday and Monday in the mid sixties.

Speaker 3 (00:56):
So we've got weekfronts, we've got strong fronts. What was
the other one was just a basic storm front.

Speaker 2 (01:03):
I'd say, so the first one tomorrow is a pretty
weak one this weekend. It looks like a stronger storm
system on the way.

Speaker 1 (01:10):
I prefer an eminence.

Speaker 4 (01:12):
Frontm I the only one who enjoyed that joke.

Speaker 1 (01:24):
I enjoyed it. Thank you. Let take that one to
the bank. Thank you.

Speaker 3 (01:38):
Pretty sure Kylan didn't even get it. I'm good with that.

Speaker 1 (01:43):
That's Ryan Morris, Wish TV meteorologist. Guys, sometimes I'm just
here for me.

Speaker 3 (01:51):
Fifty three degrees in the American Standard Cooling Weather Center.

Speaker 1 (01:54):
The time is six oh eight.

Speaker 3 (02:13):
There's a lot from yesterday that is still having reverberations.
In the release of the hostages out from Hamas' captivity,
returned to their families in Israel. Tony Katz at ninety
three WIBC, Good morning, the deals signed by President Trump
and other world leaders. I can't tell you if you're

(02:34):
gonna have peace. I'll get into that subject. I can
also get into how the New York Times referred to
it as a hostage exchange.

Speaker 1 (02:42):
Israel never had hostages. They did have.

Speaker 3 (02:44):
Prisoners terrorists involved in violent acts against Israelis. But hey,
when you're desperate to side with terrorists, like the New
York Times, you'll say what you say In anybody who
said hostage exchange.

Speaker 1 (02:59):
They're desperate to side with the.

Speaker 3 (03:00):
Terrorists of himas they are desperate, gross ugly people. But
I will have the attorney general. He scheduled me on
the show at seven point fifteen. That's Todd Rakeda, the
Attorney General of Indiana. A story that kind of got
missed last week was that the Indiana Supreme Court dismissed

(03:23):
the latest disciplinary case against him. There have been a
fair amount of disciplinary cases against Todd Rokeita. I've always
wondered if we're just talking about people not happy with
Rokeda involved in law fair because I was told this
was happening so often.

Speaker 1 (03:38):
Oh, this was it. Oh this is gonna end it.
Oh if he can't get away from this, where's the apologies?

Speaker 3 (03:46):
Where are the apologies? When I think the Attorney General's wrong,
I say so. When I think he's right, I say so.
When I noticed madness because we have people in state
of Indiana who are more interested in destruction than growth,
and more interested in attacks than rationality.

Speaker 1 (04:08):
He won the election. What's the issue?

Speaker 3 (04:12):
Am I a fan of the Lieutenant Governor Michah Beckwick. No,
he's told me that he's not a fan of mine.

Speaker 1 (04:19):
I sleep pretty well. And we were told that there
is an AI video.

Speaker 3 (04:29):
Of a member of the General Assembly's wife singing topless.
And there were people and Beck was office looking at
this and laughing, and a woman came.

Speaker 1 (04:39):
Forward and said, yes, I saw it. Where's the video.

Speaker 3 (04:42):
Well, someone just made the video and deleted it. We're
never gonna find the video. Someone printed a story about
a video they never saw. It became a story. It
has now been dogging everybody, and no one still has
come forward. No one has a any copyist, no one
has any proof of this. Yes, this woman spoke, I'm

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not saying no, no, there's no concrete evidence.

Speaker 1 (05:11):
I'm sorry.

Speaker 3 (05:11):
Why do I trust Tom Lobianco Again? What I'm asking
is exactly what is it that we are seeing, What
is it that we are enduring, and what is it
that we're willing to take? Disagreement about what something means
is one thing I'm asking about the actual thing itself.

(05:34):
The people who wish Todd Rokeeter done for what do
you It's not news, it's not even interesting, it's boring.
It's something you say in a barstool, especially when it
gets dismissed. Where are you to say up, it got dismissed.
Guess I was wrong and this video I'll say it again.

(05:58):
Indiana deserves better than michah beck With because MICHAELH. Beckwith
proved that true.

Speaker 1 (06:05):
With this video thing cold get.

Speaker 3 (06:08):
Can we get someone out there to do that investigation
to see it because there are other investigations happening that
deserve cheering, like what the Indie Star and Mirror Indie
just did about Joe hog Set and Thomas Carl Cook, who.

Speaker 1 (06:22):
We dubbed a creep long before it was fashionable.

Speaker 3 (06:28):
Oh my gosh, you want to talk about people who
knew how to gain the system.

Speaker 1 (06:34):
This story is unbelievable.

Speaker 3 (06:39):
You'll find it on my show sheet and you can
find it at the Indie Star and Mirror Indie.

Speaker 1 (06:43):
It is. It's something else, the exchange of hostages. That's
how you know people hate the truth.

Speaker 3 (06:51):
That story along with whether or not there's a peace
steel possible coming up to Tony Katz ninety three WIBC.

Speaker 1 (06:57):
Good morning.

Speaker 3 (06:58):
All I'm saying is, but when I see gold at
forty one one hundred and twenty seven dollars an ounce
and silver fifty one dollars and twenty three cents announce
I don't like anything in this economy. I'll have more
of this on Fill Up on the News at eight
thirty five. Be sure to tune in. Tony Katz ninety

(07:20):
three WIBC. Good morning, Good to be with you. I
have no idea if we're gonna have peace.

Speaker 1 (07:27):
None. And I will say to you.

Speaker 3 (07:29):
Quite clearly that the idea that we now have peace
in the Middle East.

Speaker 1 (07:35):
Come now.

Speaker 3 (07:36):
Let's let's not be the people who pretend that that's
true because Trump said it's true.

Speaker 1 (07:47):
Do you have opportunity? Well, yeah, I guess so.

Speaker 3 (07:51):
Could I be wrong? Oh gosh, yes, what I like
to be wrong? You better believe it. I would love
to be wrong.

Speaker 1 (08:02):
And there's lasting peace and everything is good.

Speaker 3 (08:06):
The president of Egypt, in this meeting that took place
after Trump's speech at the kanesse in Israel. This was
in Charlelshik, that's the name of the town, in support
of the ceasefire and in support of the idea of
investment into Gospet.

Speaker 1 (08:24):
We'll get to that in a second.

Speaker 3 (08:27):
He stated that this is the last chance for peace
in the Middle East. I mean, that's a very definitive statement.
The idea that it's this or it's nothing. I don't
know if that's true or not. What I know is

(08:50):
you can't have peace with people who want to kill you,
which makes the investment part so interesting, which will take
me to a conversation put forth by Steve.

Speaker 1 (08:58):
Bennon, and Steve is wrong.

Speaker 3 (09:02):
Steve's argument is this piece deal is brutal for Benjamin
Netanyahu because now he's been forced into a two state
solution paid for by others. That's an anti net Yahoo perspective,
which I think is valueless.

Speaker 1 (09:22):
But let's start with the basics.

Speaker 3 (09:23):
Is this actually a two state solution conversation? The answer
is kind of and I will state for the record
that I am not a fan of two state solution.

Speaker 1 (09:32):
I think that is a product of the political left.

Speaker 3 (09:36):
But the product that they were trying to create, trying
to build, the one I oppose, is the idea of
no no gas will be for these people, and as
you'll be for these.

Speaker 1 (09:45):
People, and everything will be fine.

Speaker 3 (09:47):
You cannot have a neighbor who wants to kill you.
You can't have them as leadership, you can't have them around,
you can't have them in charge, you can't have them
having any kinds of power. That's a moss which has
now started going around killing other Palestinians, actual firing squads,
but no, not.

Speaker 1 (10:04):
Face to face, shooting them behind the head. The videos
are there.

Speaker 3 (10:11):
Well, you thought Hamas was going to stop being a
killing machine. Hamas has always been a killing machine. The
fact that elected officials in Indianapolis, or college students, or
the fools on social media or on your television screen
support it, they support AMAS, I mean they give favorable
coverage to AMAS.

Speaker 1 (10:32):
This was Christian Amanpur on CNN Now earlier Live on air.

Speaker 5 (10:37):
I spoke about what a day of real joy this
is for Israeli families whose loved ones are finally being
returned from two years of horrific Hamas captivity, and for
civilians in Gaza who finally had reprieved from two years
of brutal and deadly war. I noted that for the
hostages who are finally home, it'll take a long time
for them to recover mentally and physically. But I regret

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also saying that they might have been treated better than
many Gazans because Hamas used these hostages as pawns and
bargaining chips.

Speaker 1 (11:08):
That's the weak apology. She said on air.

Speaker 3 (11:14):
That the hostages were probably treated better than the people
of Gaza because they would be used as bargaining chips.

Speaker 1 (11:21):
We saw photos in video.

Speaker 3 (11:26):
Of starved hostages digging their own graves, and she says this.

Speaker 6 (11:32):
Oh, now to our scene and cheap her now.

Speaker 3 (11:35):
I already shared it with you. The last thing we
need to do is hear it again. But I will
edit it up and play it for you later. I
don't want to surf through all of it. I thought
I had the edited version right in front of me.
My apologies.

Speaker 1 (11:47):
You heard her admit it. I apologize for saying it.

Speaker 3 (11:51):
This is where they're at, supportive of protective of somehow
diminishing what's happening, while the other side engages the idea
that what happened in Gaza was a holocaust. See how
they play the word games. This is how they play
the word games, like the exchange of hostages conversation.

Speaker 1 (12:13):
So Steve Bannon says, this.

Speaker 3 (12:15):
Is a terrible, terrible deal for Benjamin Att Yahoo. I
don't believe that to be true. But one could argue
that what Trump is trying to put into play here
is a two state solution. The difference here in what
I oppose, and yes, do I believe it's going to work,
not necessarily, but go give it a go. See what

(12:37):
happens is with worldwide investment and of course the ending
of Hamas and the taking of all of their weaponry.
Now you have the thing that I have discussed forty
years of moving these people out of the hating Israelis,

(12:57):
hating America, hating Jews headspace that creates opportunity because nobody's
gonna let you act the fool if.

Speaker 1 (13:05):
Their money is on the line.

Speaker 3 (13:08):
Creating the worldwide investment means more skin in the game,
means less nonsense will be tolerated. So this is a
different conversation. Again, I have no faith in Hamas. You
don't have any faith in any of this until you

(13:28):
end the Iranian regime that funds these people and will
continue to fund them. So yeah, my faith is minimal.
But this is different than two state solution conversations that
have come. So we have Hamas killing innocent people right
now in uh Gaza, and no one screaming about Hamas

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being killers from the political left because they don't care.

Speaker 1 (13:57):
They never cared. You have got the.

Speaker 3 (14:00):
Left screaming that this was an exchange of hostages. When
they're calling prisoners hostages as opposed to.

Speaker 1 (14:07):
Hostages that are hostages.

Speaker 3 (14:08):
So you see the word play there to try and
diminish what it is that Hamas and the Palestinians who
voted for Hamas did. And then you have people on
television saying, oh, they are probably treated humanely.

Speaker 1 (14:22):
Those hostages for two years were treated just fine.

Speaker 3 (14:25):
Again diminishing. You want to ask what's wrong with these people?
They all have one thing in common. They all support terrorism,
and they all support the destruction of anything that is
supportive of or constitutes Western civilization. Again and again and

(14:47):
again and again you see it. And yet some people, oh,
dangerous people for sure. Or a couple of days away
from the TK Tony Katz Thursday Music Moment, I have
not done that as a Thursday Music Moment song.

Speaker 1 (15:04):
I don't think I will be. I don't think I
will be. But that's good. That is very, very very good.

Speaker 3 (15:13):
So we have got turned in general. Todd Rakeda scheduled
to be with us at seven fifteen. Peter Blanchard from
Here Indy at eight fifteen. This incredible story about corruption
and really just abusive system from the abuser Thomas carl Cook,
the allegations about him and women in his office. And

(15:35):
still nothing has has come from that. Absolutely nothing has
come from that. And there's a lot of stories that
we haven't gotten to. Did you know that there's a
No King's protest schedule for this weekend. They're still doing this,
this whole No King's nonsense against the Trump administration.

Speaker 1 (15:58):
Okay, you fun with that, You go engage your First
Amendment rights.

Speaker 3 (16:03):
And have fun with that. But if you could don't
kill anybody, that'd be great. If you could no graffiti
and no destruction of property also would be great. I
just think that those things are wrong. I thought destruction
of property was wrong on January sixth. I thought destructur
of property was wrong during all the George Floyd riots.

(16:24):
I think it's wrong to try and assassinate presidential candidates.
I think it's wrong to assassinate Charlie Kirk. So if
we could don't kill anybody, thanks, lefties. Oh, and don't
block traffic, which will bring us to Jesse Brown. That
story coming up in just a little bit. Tony Katz,
that's me, by the way, Good to be with you.

(16:46):
Ninety three WIBC good morning. So we now have two
weird places where people are living and breathing in the
idea of fantasy. The first is Trump is an authoritarian.
Everything he does is authoritarian. So NonStop authoritarianism. They found

(17:09):
a word, and they can't stop going with it, no
matter how wrong they are. Tony Katz ninety three WIBC,
Good morning, Good to be with you. The court makes
a decision, Trump follows the court decision, sometimes fights the
court decision.

Speaker 1 (17:27):
And yet we're told authoritarian.

Speaker 3 (17:32):
We get Senator Chris Murphy from Connecticut where they elect
really bad senators Chris Murphy, Beta mal Connecticut. And then
Richard Blumenthal lied about his Vietnam service Connecticut, and you
get this.

Speaker 7 (17:50):
We are not on the verge of an authoritarian takeover.
We're in the middle of it.

Speaker 2 (17:54):
Now.

Speaker 7 (17:54):
It's not too late. We haven't lost our democracy. But
you know, we sometimes to think of the first term
Donald Trump, you know, the bumbling White House that didn't
seem to have any theory of the case.

Speaker 1 (18:07):
From day to day.

Speaker 7 (18:08):
This is a very different white House, right, Stephen Miller.

Speaker 1 (18:11):
And his gang they have a plan.

Speaker 7 (18:13):
They have a plan that they are executing to transition
our country from democracy to something fundamentally different, maybe even autocracy.
And that's what I tried to lay out on the
floor today is.

Speaker 1 (18:25):
Is that what you tried to do?

Speaker 3 (18:28):
If I'm asked, what you're trying to lay out is, Hey,
we haven't done a good enough job engaging in violence
against the people we disagree with, So how can I
gin up another one hundred thousand, however many people I.

Speaker 1 (18:40):
Can to go do the job we need done.

Speaker 3 (18:46):
As I stated yesterday, I will not be engaging the
conversation of toning down the rhetoric because what they say
is not what they mean and not what they do.
Not with this, not with this, not with the idea
that Antifa doesn't exist.

Speaker 1 (19:07):
Can we stop this? Please? We really want to do this.
They're fully on board.

Speaker 3 (19:13):
They're fully on board with the idea that Antifa doesn't exist.
I take you to the commentary of Jimmy Kimmel. He
comes back to his show after lying about what took
place with the assassination of Charlie Kirk.

Speaker 1 (19:30):
He lied from beginning to end.

Speaker 3 (19:35):
Jimmy Kimmel lied, and he's trying to say other people
mischaracterized him. Well, of course, trying to engage this man
he's a liar. Then last week on his show, he
did this, that's just the Secretary of Homeland Security suggesting
we lock up American protesters for life.

Speaker 7 (19:51):
They have been so bold and making sure we're bringing
those individuals to justice. One of the individuals we arrested
recently in Portland was the girlfriend of one of the
founders of Antifa.

Speaker 3 (20:01):
Finally they got the girlfriend of one of the founders
of Antifa.

Speaker 1 (20:07):
We understand there's no Antifa. This is an entirely imaginary organization.
There is not an Antifa.

Speaker 3 (20:16):
This is no different than if they announced they rounded
up a dozen decepticons.

Speaker 1 (20:22):
That is a lie.

Speaker 3 (20:24):
But lying is part of the game. And again, I
go back to my comments from yesterday. If you didn't
hear them, that's okay. I'll be digging into this. Why
in the world would I ever tone down the rhetoric?
That is an expression utilized to try and silence the
people you disagree with. What they're saying is they could
keep talking like this, but what you're saying, well, you

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should really know. No, I'm here on the political right,
I don't shy away from that, and the political left
me keeps moving further and further left and therefore recenters
the center, and then they say, look how.

Speaker 1 (21:03):
Far right he is. Look how far right that Tony Kansas.
But that is not true. That is not the case.
But when you want.

Speaker 3 (21:10):
People just to believe something via emotion and not via
actual integrity or intellectual prowess, that's what you say. And
you see the people out there who follow that. But
the people who listen to the show know exactly where
I'm at. The people who want to just do damage
and destroy, they make this gross claim, and it's easier
to make the gross claim than actually do the work.

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Antifa doesn't exist. This brings us to Keith Ellison, the
Attorney General of Minnesota.

Speaker 8 (21:43):
So the fact that there is no I mean is
nobody even knows what it is. The first person I
ever heard use the word antifa was Donald J.

Speaker 1 (21:52):
Trump when he.

Speaker 8 (21:55):
Was going on about how there were good people on
both sides of Charlottesvield.

Speaker 3 (22:00):
So he'd lies while engaging a lie. He never called
those people find people. We already know that that's a lie,
and they keep doing it. In twenty eighteen, Keith Ellison,
when he was a congressman, took a photo that photos
of him holding what the Antifa handbook he's holding it Antifa,

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the anti fascist handbook he's holding in his hand.

Speaker 1 (22:27):
It's a little of an upshot so the camera angles
below him.

Speaker 3 (22:31):
In twenty eighteen, that's a photo of him, and in
twenty twenty five he's saying, nobody knows who Antifa is.
These people lie all the time about everything, constantly and
consistently to protect the violent acts that take place. Because

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the only conclusion that I believe the rational mind can
come to is they are fine with the violent act
and they want to see, wait for it, more of them.
And then if you ask me to tell you know, hey, Tony,

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you really need to tone down the rhetoric.

Speaker 1 (23:17):
I'm sorry.

Speaker 3 (23:18):
I'm no, no, because that term is meant to silence you,
me and we while they continue doing what they're doing. No, no,
I won't be toning anything down because no one's toning
anything down. I will call Keith Ellison a liar because
he is. I'll call Jimmy Kimmel a liar because he is.

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I'll call christ Murph you a liar because he is.
I will utilize the facts to explain myself, and I
will persuade more people to be on my side, which is,
of course what they don't want from you, me or
we So easy to see once you lay it out.
Tara hay sings Wish TV Meteor. I'll just can I
tell you a quick story of Tara. It's going to

(24:00):
weird up in here because producer Carl is on assignment,
and so we've had producer Kylin filling in, who was
never actually my producer. She's always been filling and doing
work and an actress by trade and voiceover and everything else.

Speaker 1 (24:15):
But she is not available this whole week.

Speaker 3 (24:17):
So now we've got producer Kurt In who used to
produce the show. So everybody who used to somehow be
attached with this show, all of those problem people who
I weeded out and got rid of, they're.

Speaker 1 (24:30):
All coming back.

Speaker 3 (24:31):
Wow, right, I saw Kyle Wells is going to be
coming back.

Speaker 1 (24:36):
Next thing, you know, Matt Bear is going to produce
the show for a day. We got rid of him quick.
Good lord, where's AJ's ced Aj?

Speaker 3 (24:47):
I mean, we're we Honestly, it should be a class
reunion at this stage of the game.

Speaker 1 (24:52):
The people we have put in in and out.

Speaker 3 (24:56):
Now some people were glad they're gone, but everybody else,
it'd be.

Speaker 1 (25:02):
Nice to see where are they now?

Speaker 3 (25:03):
And so producer Carl A producer Carl is out right,
he's on assignment. So producer Kylin won't be here the
rest of the week Wednesday through Friday. So now we've
got producer Kurt who's learned training right now with producer Kylin.

Speaker 1 (25:17):
Have I explained it all?

Speaker 3 (25:18):
Yeah?

Speaker 9 (25:19):
Yeah, I get it.

Speaker 10 (25:20):
That was very nice.

Speaker 9 (25:20):
I had no idea. I've never heard of Kurt before,
but yeah, no one nice guy.

Speaker 1 (25:24):
No one knows of Kurt Gerald's.

Speaker 3 (25:26):
He's like the chupacabra him him, like his producing skills.

Speaker 9 (25:29):
Not real, right, not real?

Speaker 1 (25:33):
Yes, acused.

Speaker 9 (25:36):
Kurt.

Speaker 1 (25:36):
Would you like to say anything in your defense? I'm
too stunned to speak right now. Yes, that's correct, that
it's accurate, Tara. What do you got for us?

Speaker 10 (25:45):
Hey, We're going to look for lots of sunshine today.
It is going to be a beautiful afternoon. How about
temperatures in the mid and upper seventies, almost close to
eighty degrees later today, look for mostly clear skies tonight
fifty four, a few more clouds on wind. We could
see a spotty sprinkle north of Indianapolis on Wednesday, but

(26:06):
I don't think it'll move in across parts of central
Indiana seventy one Wednesday, seventy one on Thursday with partly
cloudy skies and still looking for some showers, maybe thunderstorms
heading into the weekend.

Speaker 3 (26:18):
When you say thunderstorms, we often see these things as
squalls that have can bring a lot of wind and
branches come down. We've seen power outages. Is there anything
that we should be expecting.

Speaker 10 (26:28):
Yeah, there is a chance that maybe some of these
thunderstorms could be on the stronger side. The timing we
have to kind of nail down. One of the computer
models suggests coming in a little bit earlier on Saturday,
another computer model holding off until more Saturday evening.

Speaker 9 (26:44):
So it's something we're continuing.

Speaker 10 (26:45):
To keep an eye on right now. Of course, you
know we usually typically typically don't see these kind of
things in October, but it can't happen, so.

Speaker 9 (26:54):
Just stay tuned to the forecast.

Speaker 10 (26:56):
It is something we're watching, but could bring some really
heavy rainfall across parts of the state as we go
into Saturday and maybe early on Sunday.

Speaker 3 (27:07):
That is Tara Hastings right there of wish A TV.
Thank you appreciate you as always right. Now, we've got
fifty three degrees in the American standard cooling leather center
at the time is seven oh nine.

Speaker 1 (27:37):
So is this legit that.

Speaker 3 (27:46):
There were residents of Martindale Brightwood blocking traffic Monday this
to protest the possible data center.

Speaker 1 (27:57):
Tony katz Ubc, Good morning, Good to be with you.
What is going on everybody? This was.

Speaker 3 (28:08):
WFYI doing the reporting of this.

Speaker 1 (28:14):
They had a photo of people blocking traffic, so that's interesting.

Speaker 3 (28:20):
Now it's right here, residents and community leaders in Martindale
Brightwood rallied and then block traffic Monday night, protesting a
possible data center in the neighborhood.

Speaker 1 (28:31):
Okay, arrest everybody. Arrest absolutely everybody.

Speaker 3 (28:39):
Don't wait, don't pass, go, don't collect two hundred dollars.

Speaker 1 (28:44):
Arrest everyone.

Speaker 3 (28:48):
The story that I think this is more important is
Jesse Brown, the communist on the Indianapolis City County Council.

Speaker 1 (28:56):
Where's a CAFEA in support of Hamas?

Speaker 3 (28:58):
He'll say, it's in solidarity with the Palestinian people. But
we know better, he says, all power to the people.
Most fun and energizing rally I've.

Speaker 1 (29:10):
Been to in months, So now I have a question.
This was sent to me.

Speaker 3 (29:16):
This was posted by somebody else on social media and
they tagged me in it to take a look at it.
Indianapolis City Council. Did City County councilor Jesse Brown participate
in an illegal activity? Walking traffic certainly isn't a llegal activity. No,
certainly is something that could bring a lot of danger.

(29:38):
He's increasing people's harm and of course, impeding traffic. I
believe is would be at least be a misdemeanor. I'll
let somebody correct me. Did Jesse Brown encourage people to
break the law? And if so, why is he still
in the city County Council. I didn't say he couldn't
oppose data centers. You could oppose data breaking the law. Well, no,

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we don't do that. You're you're a member, you're an
elected official. You don't get to do that.

Speaker 1 (30:09):
Here he is admitting to in being involved in that.
He was there.

Speaker 3 (30:16):
Did he support and it seems like he supports breaking
the law and blocking traffic where people can get hurt?

Speaker 1 (30:23):
Did he do it? And if he did, why is
he still in the City County Council? I oppose law breaking.
You come into the country illegally. I oppose it.

Speaker 3 (30:31):
You murder somebody without any threat to your life, I
oppose it.

Speaker 1 (30:36):
You break them to someone's house. I oppose it.

Speaker 3 (30:40):
Why are we allowing this from elected officials Indianapolis. He's
admitting that he was there. Was he involved in blocking traffic?
And if he was, doesn't that mean he has to go?

Speaker 1 (30:55):
I think it means he should go.

Speaker 3 (30:58):
I'll let you actually do your jobs on this one.
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hear to believe. Then grab your popcorn because there is more. Uh.
You've got Tom Homan, he's the borders are coming to town.
You have serious conversations about a law enforcement and then
you have a subject I was discussing earlier, which is
basically law fair. The Attorney General of Indiana, Toddrakeita, joins

(32:56):
us right now it was a uh the Indiana Supreme
Court dismissing this complaint.

Speaker 1 (33:06):
You have been a victim of lawfair.

Speaker 3 (33:09):
You have seen lawfair take place, as we have all
discussed regarding indictments against UH then candidate Trump now President Trump.
Is is is there an effective way to fight the
lawfair outside of well, it's just gonna cost you a
whole bunch of money to do.

Speaker 11 (33:29):
So, yeah, Tony, it's it's really a ridiculous it's part
of a national playbook.

Speaker 12 (33:36):
You know.

Speaker 11 (33:36):
First of all, a lot of my colleagues around the
country have come under the same attacks. And so, you know,
the people of Indiana elected me in a record number
and I say that humbly and out of a great
deal of appreciation, more votes than than in the history
of the state, than any other candidate and in.

Speaker 12 (33:59):
The Demo cred Activists of the year.

Speaker 11 (34:01):
Okay, here in Indiana, he was literally given an award
think in twenty eighteen or something like that by the
Indiana Democratic Party for being the Democrat.

Speaker 12 (34:10):
Actiss of the activists of the year.

Speaker 11 (34:12):
Is responsible for starting five, at least five of the
seven investigations that have been done on me by this
disciplinary commission that meets in secret, not elected by anybody,
that tried and probably will continue to try to take
to reverse the intent of over a million Hoosiers, nearly

(34:36):
two million Hoosiers who voted me into office.

Speaker 12 (34:38):
And that's what's going on. So they can't.

Speaker 11 (34:40):
Stop me at the ballot box, or they can't stop
me in court, so they try to take away my
law license. And it's exactly right, Tony, the very same
thing that they tried to do, well, not the very
same thing, but like the same thing they try to
do to President Trump. Now they went after him in
the criminal sense. This isn't criminal, but it has the
same effect stopping policymakers from doing the job that people

(35:03):
elected them to do.

Speaker 3 (35:05):
Do you see with this latest dismissal do you see
an end in sight for this? Or is your office
just geared up the loins girded if you will, you know,
something else will drop at some time.

Speaker 11 (35:19):
Well, you know, we'll see, if I mean. The Supreme
Court was pretty stern when they gave the order for
us to mediate, which is something that's never been another
thing that's never been done in the history of these cases,
because I think the Supreme Court saw what a stinker
the Disciplinary Commission was trying to bring here, and in fact,
the Dimery Commission, you know, dismissed this case, you know,

(35:41):
which I don't know if they've ever done something like
that before.

Speaker 12 (35:44):
So hopefully people.

Speaker 11 (35:46):
Have learned that they were being used these people, or
if they're.

Speaker 12 (35:50):
Aiding in a betting, if that's how you want to
look at it, that they stop now.

Speaker 11 (35:54):
I gave a pathway for the Supreme Court to solve
this if they take it up. I propose those rule
changes to this process based on the experience that I had,
so you know, I've tried to do the right thing.
It's been a year since I proposed these changes, and
I haven't gotten any word that the Indiana Supreme Court

(36:15):
is going to take up discussing these changes, which they
should do.

Speaker 12 (36:19):
It would do things that it would really help the lawfare,
Like you have to have.

Speaker 11 (36:22):
Personal knowledge, you have to be a party to the
transaction before you complain against an attorney.

Speaker 12 (36:28):
You know, that's one change. Several things like that that
would stop.

Speaker 11 (36:33):
In this case, the for example of Democrat Activist of
the year, other political operators from just fire and off
disciplinary complaints and then these people again, nine of them
who meet in secret taking up the complaint. You know,
one of these guys is a Democrat lawmaker. Just give

(36:54):
me a Democrat elected official who endorsed my opponent during
last election while he and his commission were investigating me.
And you know, so then they switched with it. They
put a Republican quote unquote Republican in Tony Well.

Speaker 12 (37:08):
This Republican donated to Liz.

Speaker 11 (37:11):
Cheney, endorsed Kamala Harris in the last election, and has.

Speaker 12 (37:18):
You know, is an anti Trumper.

Speaker 11 (37:19):
You know, of course I'm a strong ally at President Trump,
and so you know that's the dynamic that's going on here.

Speaker 12 (37:26):
So they really look bad.

Speaker 11 (37:28):
It really hurts the judicial institution if we don't get
some reforms put in place.

Speaker 12 (37:32):
I hope they take up my.

Speaker 3 (37:32):
But you're not saying that there shouldn't be able to
be a system by which people can engage a complaint.

Speaker 1 (37:38):
And issue, because they can come up of.

Speaker 11 (37:41):
Course, of course, and there needs to be a system,
but it needs to be a lot more transparent.

Speaker 12 (37:48):
It has to be a lot more.

Speaker 11 (37:50):
I mean again, this system has been around for decades
and decades.

Speaker 12 (37:53):
It never anticipated the lawfare.

Speaker 11 (37:55):
And your question is about the lawfare, and it's certainly
an issue now, and the court would do well to
take up the proposed changes and probably some others that.

Speaker 12 (38:05):
I and maybe others make.

Speaker 3 (38:07):
Talking to the Attorney General of Indiana, Todd Rokita, you've
got the meeting today with the borders, are Tom Homan
closed to the public, closed to the press, although I
believe it is going to be live streaming.

Speaker 1 (38:22):
What is the perfect purpose of the meeting?

Speaker 11 (38:26):
Hey, listen, you know when you've got a guy like
Tom Holman, who, like President Trump says, is right out
of central casting for this job of cleaning up the
Biden mess and our other border security messes and issues
around illegal immigration. And you've got Chad Wolfe, the former
DHS secretary and during Trump one.

Speaker 12 (38:47):
You know, they see they came at my request. They
see me as a leader in this. We certainly are
a leader in.

Speaker 11 (38:52):
This, and they want the General Assembly in Indiana to
do the right thing here. They see Indiana as a
great best model, if you will, best practice, if you will,
for how states can help clean up this mess. And
now to be fair, I mean, this is this bill
that it's called the Fairness Act. We had it last year,

(39:13):
got out of the House real well.

Speaker 12 (39:14):
It helps. What it does, it.

Speaker 11 (39:18):
Strengthens my policing of sanctuaries jurisdictions.

Speaker 12 (39:24):
So it requires ICE to or requires.

Speaker 11 (39:27):
These local law enforcement officials to honor ICE attainers instead
of just letting illegal aliens go. It acts it has
state Social Services agency start collecting data on how many
illegal aliens they're giving our tax money to our through
welfare benefits.

Speaker 12 (39:47):
You know. So it does a lot of good stuff.

Speaker 11 (39:48):
Got out of the house real well, and it was
stopped by liberal, a liberal senator who calls herself for Republican.
Her names Liz Brown. She's from Fort Wayne.

Speaker 12 (39:56):
She just didn't want to hear it for personal reasons.
You know.

Speaker 11 (40:00):
She told me that she had, you know, some kind
of illegal alien relationship in the family or something like that.

Speaker 12 (40:06):
She's backed off that now, but you know, she didn't
want to hear it. So it just died in the Senate.
And that's ridiculous.

Speaker 11 (40:14):
We have to put hoosiers above these illegal aliens, and
we have problems with people like Liz.

Speaker 12 (40:20):
Brown and the Republican Party who don't want to do anything.

Speaker 1 (40:22):
So is the meaning about the idea of legislation?

Speaker 3 (40:25):
Is that why Tom Holman's coming and it still doesn't
for a lot of people. Why the meeting is something
that the press can't attend.

Speaker 12 (40:34):
I think, well, either.

Speaker 11 (40:34):
There's some security issues around that. It was originally going
to be in the second the second floor of the
State House and open, but we have some securities. So
you know, I'm going to live stream it so you'll
be able to see it. You just go to my
Facebook page or go to my website.

Speaker 12 (40:48):
And it'll be right there.

Speaker 11 (40:50):
We'll record it, you can play it back, you know,
we'll at least have that opportunity. But there, I think
they were expecting some protesters, well maybe a lot of
protesters today, But yeah, it's about a bill. It's kicking
the legislature into gear here. It's reminding them that whatever
they thought they did last session, they didn't get done,
and they shouldn't pat themselves on the.

Speaker 12 (41:11):
Back because there's a lot more they can do. And
I think when we get.

Speaker 11 (41:14):
This done, Tony, you're going to see a lot of
other states start having similar legislations, similar laws. O.

Speaker 3 (41:23):
I just did not grab from you? What specifically and
thirty seconds or left? What specific laws are we discussing here, Well,
it's called.

Speaker 12 (41:33):
The Fairness Act.

Speaker 11 (41:34):
So it's going to beef up my ability to this
Attorney Deno's ability to prohibit sanctuary jurisdictions here in the state.
It's going to penalize employers for hiring illegals if they
knowingly do it. E verif I would still be a
safe harbor. It's going to require law enforcement to actually
honor ice attainers. So if I says, hey, put a

(41:58):
hold on that criminal susta that you have in your jail,
We're going to come pick them up, the sheriff can't
let them go. And we have that happening in this
state right now. And so that would that would help
remove the llegal aliens, and then it would track the
welfare benefits that are being given to illegal aliens because

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no state agencies are collecting that data right now.

Speaker 3 (42:23):
Todd Rakeita, Attorney General of Indiana, I appreciate you taking
the time to be with us. We'll be watching the
meeting in dot gov slash Attorney General.

Speaker 1 (42:33):
I think it's the website you can go to if
it's a different website. I'll put it out there for
everybody to see. This Attorney General.

Speaker 3 (42:39):
Roketa thank you today on the marketplace. This kid's is
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Tony Katz ninety three WIBC, Good morning, Good to be
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Speaker 12 (44:00):
Right?

Speaker 3 (44:01):
So is that a because I like full disclosure on everything,
So I don't. Maybe I'll do it just to do it,
but I don't know if it was required.

Speaker 13 (44:08):
It's a selfless active transparency I was.

Speaker 3 (44:11):
I was thinking about it, right, like, like you want
to make sure at all times, right, the only thing
you've got is your credibility. You might as well, you know,
protect it. Uh, Matt Bear, are you a motorcycle guy?

Speaker 8 (44:23):
No?

Speaker 13 (44:23):
I will be someday though.

Speaker 1 (44:25):
Right when? When will that day come?

Speaker 12 (44:27):
Soon?

Speaker 1 (44:28):
Really soon?

Speaker 13 (44:28):
I'm going to get a crowd rocket, I've decided, and
it's going to be very low to the ground.

Speaker 1 (44:33):
I'm pretty sure you can't say that on the radio.

Speaker 13 (44:36):
You watch me, right, It's gonna be fun.

Speaker 3 (44:40):
I want you to know right now, I am as
afraid of a motorcycle as anything else.

Speaker 1 (44:47):
But I have a dream at Matt Bear, would you
like to hear the dream.

Speaker 13 (44:49):
Yes, I would please.

Speaker 3 (44:50):
I'm driving a downtown with with my wife, a lovely woman, fantastic,
perfect human being, and uh, we're at a We're at
a stop and there's a motorcycle next to us, and
my wife looks over.

Speaker 1 (45:03):
This is like five years ago.

Speaker 14 (45:04):
Now.

Speaker 3 (45:04):
My wife looks over and says, I'd like that. And
I said, I'm sorry, what now? Now there are stories
and I'm not going to out my my wife on
these things. She goes, oh yeah, oh yeah, motorcycle I'd like.
I said, Okay, I'm too afraid of a motorcycle, but
if you want, I'll get a motorcycle with the side car,
if I could be in the side car.

Speaker 13 (45:27):
Okay, so you're not driving the motorcycle.

Speaker 3 (45:29):
Oh no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no wait, too
afraid for that. And people are like, oh my gosh,
that's so beata.

Speaker 12 (45:34):
Oh no no.

Speaker 3 (45:35):
I'm gonna have the goggles, the scarf. I'm gonna have
a cigar in one hand and a drink in the other.
I'm gonna have grape poupon in the dash anytime somebody
needs it. I cannot wait for this moment to occur
in my life. I want to be that kind of eccentric,
eccentric freak. This is a nineteen seventy two Triumph Trident.

(45:57):
Yeah with the side car. It's beautify, it's beautiful.

Speaker 1 (46:02):
Look at it.

Speaker 13 (46:04):
Can you get this up to like speed for the interstate?
I mean, does it go fast enough? Is it a
quick motorcycle?

Speaker 3 (46:10):
No?

Speaker 1 (46:10):
I don't think so. It also it needs an engine.

Speaker 13 (46:14):
I mean the engines exposed. This is my problem with
the engines exposed, So like, when you use it for
a little bit, it's gonna get really hot and then
you're gonna burn your legs. Whoever is you have to.

Speaker 1 (46:23):
That's my wife's problem.

Speaker 3 (46:24):
No, only I'm gonna be in the sidecar enjoying a
tasty beverage.

Speaker 1 (46:28):
You deal with it, right, Oh yeah, this is what
you wanted. Now, Uh take me, take me out for
a spin. Let's go.

Speaker 15 (46:37):
I have to go see the people and be like,
oh pity, you have to live like such commoners while
I sip on my drink and my scarf blowing in
the breeze, and my goggles allowing me to.

Speaker 3 (46:47):
See all I want to survey. It's it is the dream,
the dream sidecar. My friend tell me, I'm wrong.

Speaker 13 (46:57):
I just I mean, you're gonna put this thing at
a roundabout on Rangeline Road and never get it back.
You're just going to be going to circles for the
rest of Yeah, you know, it's.

Speaker 1 (47:04):
Just my concern.

Speaker 13 (47:05):
It just looks like a very left turning type of motorcycle.

Speaker 1 (47:08):
Well it is Indianapolis. It's kind of what we do. True.

Speaker 3 (47:12):
Are you in uh as a manual transmission? Well, of
course it is. Why does it say that sixty two
thousand miles forty eight hundred dollars four eight hundred dollars
nott bear.

Speaker 1 (47:23):
You intere out?

Speaker 13 (47:24):
No, No, I don't know even know what to do
with this thing. I don't want anybody in a sidecar
riding with me, even in my car, So I cannot
I cannot justify the investment here, Tony, it's all yours.

Speaker 1 (47:36):
Oh that's what I do for you.

Speaker 16 (47:38):
Can I say, as a motorcycle driver that this is
absolutely one hundred percent go for it?

Speaker 3 (47:45):
Wait a second, hold on Kyland producer Kylin in for
producer Carl.

Speaker 1 (47:49):
He's on assignment. You you ride a motorcycle?

Speaker 6 (47:54):
Yeah, the crotch rocket dream I have.

Speaker 2 (47:57):
I have a Yamaha could everyone please stop using the
term crotch rocket on this show.

Speaker 1 (48:05):
Things.

Speaker 3 (48:06):
I never thought i'd have to say to somebody other
than Jason Hammer, could you please cut that out?

Speaker 13 (48:12):
Crotch motorcycle?

Speaker 1 (48:14):
I hate you? Oh, I just think, well, what kind
of motorcycle do you have?

Speaker 16 (48:19):
I have a Yamaha a Yamaha are three. So she's
a little baby three hundred cc. She's a beautiful blue though.
I'll send you a picture.

Speaker 3 (48:29):
All I know is I've now received twenty two text
messages asking if Kylon.

Speaker 6 (48:33):
Is single, I'll take you a ride on my sidecar.

Speaker 1 (48:39):
Whoa and that? Kids?

Speaker 3 (48:42):
I'm telling you, beside, what do you think of my
sidecar plan? Genius or insane? Now it's a genius, I
was asking Kylon.

Speaker 6 (48:49):
It's still genius, you know, absolutely genius.

Speaker 16 (48:52):
I will teach your wife how to drive it so
you guys can live out your dreams.

Speaker 3 (48:56):
And a man who's willing to do sidecar with the
drink whatever you you find that hot?

Speaker 16 (49:01):
I mean, heck yeah, I've backpacked with people before. Absolutely,
if you're riding in the sidecar, there's nothing wrong with it.

Speaker 6 (49:08):
You are still enjoying.

Speaker 3 (49:09):
Honestly, I don't know what she meant by backpack with people,
but I'm not about to ask.

Speaker 1 (49:13):
Matt Bearr has got traffic on the fives. We're already late.
This show is a mess. What's going on?

Speaker 3 (49:19):
Then, Tara Hastings, Wish TV meteorologist, what's happening?

Speaker 10 (49:24):
Hey, good morning. We're gonna look for sunny skies today.
It is going to be a warm one today. I
think that's the main weather story. We're talking about temps
in the mid and upper seventies, maybe flirting with eighty
in some spots. Tonight will be mostly clear. We'll fall
to about fifty four, a little bit more cloud cover
on Wednesday, and could see mainly cloudy skies for the afternoon.
Willif for temperature is only around seventy one, could see

(49:45):
maybe a few sprinkles in northern sections of Indiana. Still
drive Thursday and Friday, and then over the weekend some
rain will move through. Even some thunderstorms possible as well,
could bring some much needed rain across state.

Speaker 1 (50:02):
How much rain, well, it all.

Speaker 10 (50:06):
Depends upon where the We're anticipating maybe the possibility of
some stronger thunderstorms, So it all depends upon where some
of those thunderstorms set up. Right now, it looks like
the bulk of the state could get at least some rainfall,
but the heavier pockets of rain could be in southern
sections of Indiana. But the possibility maybe an inch in
some spots, maybe a little bit more.

Speaker 1 (50:30):
All right, that's a fair amount of rain.

Speaker 9 (50:33):
It is.

Speaker 10 (50:34):
And boy, the northern sections of the state under extreme
drought conditions and some pockets around Cocomo and Fort Wayne.
So we've got burn bands in the state as well.
So we definitely could use some moisture out there.

Speaker 1 (50:50):
Let me change gears on you. Do you ride motorcycles?

Speaker 9 (50:54):
Do I ride motorcycles? I do not?

Speaker 3 (50:56):
Okay, So it turns out that producer Kylin rides and motorcycles.
Me a photo of her next to what is obstensibly
her motorcycle, and I didn't.

Speaker 1 (51:07):
We've learned something today.

Speaker 9 (51:10):
Wow about it? Like a is it a like a Harley?
I mean, what kind of motorcycle this is?

Speaker 1 (51:17):
This is a Yamaha? She said three hundred cc.

Speaker 9 (51:20):
Wow, that's nice. Sure you like it.

Speaker 1 (51:24):
So that's that's what's going on with her. But not you.
Not you, Tara Hayes.

Speaker 6 (51:29):
You can drive the sidecar.

Speaker 1 (51:31):
You don't have a sidecar, Kyland. What I'm saying, you
need a side car, that's the everything.

Speaker 10 (51:38):
That would be fantastic, Although then I'd be like, oh
my gosh, really close to the the pavement. Yeah, I
drove the I drove the truck into work today and
I was like, Holy moly, I felt like I was
Queen of the road driving in.

Speaker 1 (51:56):
What do you mean you drove the truck?

Speaker 3 (51:57):
How many vehicles are you talking about with that weather
lady money?

Speaker 10 (52:02):
Now wait a minute, Well, my husband has we've flipped vehicles,
and so he took the the suv, the Kia Sorrento
that I have, and I took the the Ford f
one fifty into work.

Speaker 1 (52:17):
And wow, yeah you did, and you're far happier in
a Ford.

Speaker 9 (52:22):
You Yeah you are.

Speaker 1 (52:24):
Yes, everybody this seat America. I want a cousin gass.
I want to run over small countries.

Speaker 3 (52:31):
I have tremendous power on Tara Hastings.

Speaker 10 (52:36):
Man, there's heated seats in that one, and I have
heated seats in mind, but holy moly, these.

Speaker 9 (52:41):
Are like is very toasty? Good ride in? It was
a good ride.

Speaker 10 (52:47):
I love it.

Speaker 3 (52:49):
Wow, We're learning a lot about everybody today, Tara Hastings,
which TV meteorologist.

Speaker 1 (52:54):
I appreciate it.

Speaker 3 (52:56):
Fifty three degrees in the American standard cooling Weather Center
at the time is a ten. So it's a question

(53:17):
of who is going to be backing up Daniel Jones.
As you have the injury to Anthony Richardson, which is
so weird. He's working with an exercise band and I
guess it snapped on him and he got an orbital fracture.

(53:41):
If it wasn't for bad luck, he'd have none. Tony
Katz ninety three WIBC, Good morning, Good to be with you.
Because of him being placed on injured reserve, he'll miss
four games. I'm telling you, Anthony Richardson is getting traded.

Speaker 1 (54:03):
They need to.

Speaker 3 (54:04):
Find somebody who could be the backup, or they're gonna
leave it to Riley Leonard. And I like Riley Leonard,
but I don't know if he's ready for that. I
just I have no way of making that determination. May
I suggest we never should have gotten rid of Flacco
one man's theory, But here we are now. Don't know
who they're gonna pick up, but be looking on the

(54:25):
lookout for that. They're gonna have to pick up somebody. Today.

Speaker 1 (54:30):
I think that's the story to look for.

Speaker 3 (54:32):
A story out of the Indie Star and Mirror Indy
discussing corruption, Joe hog Set and of course Thomas Carl
cook Man. We had that one pegged early that story
is coming up. Peter Blanchard scheduled to join us to
break that down. Tony Katz ninety three wiv C Good Morning.

Speaker 2 (54:56):
Early on.

Speaker 3 (54:59):
We discussed this show how weird Thomas Carl Cook was
deputy mayor.

Speaker 1 (55:06):
Chief of staff to Joe hog Set.

Speaker 3 (55:08):
Certainly we discussed how weird Joe Hogshead was, but what
an awful person Thomas Carl Cook was. We would invite
Joe hog Sett onto the show, We'd get no answer.

Speaker 1 (55:19):
We'd get like taunting tweets in response.

Speaker 3 (55:22):
The guy actually photo bombed me at a at a
Pacers game. He tried to shake my hand like I
was ever gonna shake his hand. I won't shake Joe
Hogsheat's hand. You want to talk to me, Mayor hog Set,
you come on the show and you speak to the people.

Speaker 1 (55:36):
Don't try and get chummy with me. If you see
me out in public, that's not happening. But knew that.

Speaker 3 (55:44):
Thomas Carl Cook was not a guy who was any good.
Then we learn about the sexual impropriety, to which there
was much. Then we see the story that comes out yesterday,
a collaboration between The Indie Star and Mirror Indie what
they're calling the Mister Clean Investigation, the series that will

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focus on ethical concerns within the Hogshead administration.

Speaker 1 (56:13):
Peter Blanchard joins me right now.

Speaker 3 (56:15):
He is one of the authors of this story, along
with Emily Hopkins of Mirror Indy and Tony Cook of
The Indie Star. Hog Seat ignored Thomas Cook's secret relationship
as money flowed to developers he represented. Peter, thanks for
being with us. You can find this at Mirror Indi
dot org. Give me the elevator pitch on what it

(56:35):
is that people are going to learn in this story.

Speaker 14 (56:40):
Yeah, so good morning, Tony, and thanks for having me on. Really,
this is a story about power and who are the
people that benefit from their associations in the Hogshea administration.
The elevator pitch here is you have Thomas Cook, mayor
Joehawks's former chief of staff, exiting the administration, joining a

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law firm and signing up developers who are seeking incentives
from the City. Meanwhile, on the other end of the
negotiating table for the city is Scarlett Andrews, who was
director of the Department of Metropolitan Development, which is the
same very agency that is charged with doling out those

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incentives to developers. And so what we wanted to get
across with this story is that there's a conflict of
interest here that makes it very difficult to know whether
several development projects such as City Market the former Jail
two makes it difficult to know if these projects were

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done in the public's interest because of that conflict of interest.

Speaker 3 (57:53):
So let's get into the conflict of interest a little bit.
This is different than the sexual impropriety that is alleged
against him, and certainly the idea of this law firm
that was supposed to clear people or get to the
bottom of things didn't do that.

Speaker 1 (58:08):
We already know that story.

Speaker 3 (58:10):
But rather this falls into a weird level of gray
that city rules didn't have any application to about whether
this type of relationship needs any level of ethics compliance.
That's what I gleaned from the story. Is that accurate.

Speaker 14 (58:29):
Yeah, it's definitely a gray area when you look at
both state and the city's ethics laws.

Speaker 12 (58:37):
What you have is.

Speaker 14 (58:40):
You know, measures in place to prevent public servants from
you know, using their position to benefit say their spouse
or an immediate family member. Conflict of interest laws don't
really address romantic partners. And you know, there are other

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ethics laws we look at. For example, you know, there's
a post employment waiver that former city employees are supposed
to get when they you know, go and leave the
city and begin in private sector work and if it's
related to the city. But it's not really clear here
if any laws are broken. We talked to a couple
ethical experts about that. You know, they were hesitant to

(59:26):
say that any laws are broken here, but at the
very least they said, you know, the conflict of interest
here raises some serious ethical questions.

Speaker 3 (59:36):
Talking to Peter Blanchard of Mirror Indie dot org, the
story Hog Seat ignored Thomas Cook's secret relationship as money
flowed to developers who represented Now I have much I
could say about Thomas Carl Cook, who, as I know
it doesn't live in Indianapolis anymore. The duplicitousness that took place,
the ugliness that took place in the people who worked

(59:57):
with him, I would hold in very very low regard.
But never mind my own personal disdain. This is a
story about Joe Hog set in the main and as
you guys discussed it, and I didn't know that this
was the case, I'd be curious to know where this
comes from. He tries to put on airs about having

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some real record of integrity.

Speaker 1 (01:00:21):
Is that correct?

Speaker 3 (01:00:22):
And then to follow up on that, how is this
story being responded to by him and by Indianapolis.

Speaker 12 (01:00:30):
Yeah.

Speaker 14 (01:00:31):
So, you know, one of the reasons we call the
story and it's really going to be a series of
stories about ethical concerns in the hawks At administration. One
of the reasons we call it mister Clean is because
way back in twenty thirteen, when the mayor was not
the mayor yet, he was the US Attorney for the

(01:00:51):
Southern District of Indiana, he did develop a bit of
a reputation for increasing government corruption prosecutions. And you know,
then when he decides to run for mayor, he pledges
to crack down of public employees who use their position
for personal gain. And then one of the first laws
that he signs when he's in office is an ethics

(01:01:14):
reform package that is, you know, designed to prohibit conflict
of interest and increase transparency. And so you know, given
the revelations that that we discovered, we felt that it
was appropriate to bring back this name, which had been
given to him by the government watchdog group Common Cause Indiana.

Speaker 3 (01:01:38):
There's it's interesting that this story and and I really
appreciate the reporting, as we discussed here. When good reporting happens,
I like to to cheer it on. And I don't
think it's any secret, Peter that my my issues with
the Indie Star, uh go back long and and and
are severe. But I'm seeing the things from this opinion guy,

(01:02:02):
Jacob Stewart, I'm seeing Tony Cook. Of course, this story
things things that you've been writing about regarding Joe hag
Sett and the sexual impropriety. Is there a change going
on in Indianapolis media? Is there a distinctive changing of
the guard from we we talk about fluff to we

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get into serious issues or was this always here and
I wasn't noticing.

Speaker 14 (01:02:32):
I'd say, I think what you're seeing here is sort
of the consequences of someone's staying in power for so long.
You know, Mayor hawk Sett during his first two terms.
He's a Democrat in a blue city, that's you know,
very upset with the state legislature and you know the

(01:02:55):
ways in which they weigh in on Indianapolis politics during
the legislate a session, and so married Joe Hawksad is
really kind of representative of his constituents, and so he
enjoys his first two terms relatively scandal free. I mean,
you of course have the questions about where he was
during the twenty twenty riot, but I think beyond that,

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you know, he's he's really he really went through his
first two terms without any issues. You know, now we're
seeing the sort of consequences of going for a third term.
When you when you're in power for this long, you know,
I think people start to maybe question your motives. You know,

(01:03:39):
he had said he wasn't going to run for a
third term and so and then another thing I would
say is, I think, you know, sometimes it takes a
while for you know, people to air their concerns about,
you know, the government in which they work. You know,
in this case, we've spoken to a lot of anonymous sources,

(01:04:00):
many people who worked in the Hogshead administration or still
work there and are frustrated with what they're seeing, and
after so many years of seeing this sort.

Speaker 12 (01:04:11):
Of thing going on.

Speaker 14 (01:04:13):
I think people at a certain point just get shut up.

Speaker 1 (01:04:17):
Peter Blanchard is his name, Peter L. Blanchert on Twitter
X find him there.

Speaker 3 (01:04:21):
Hogshead ignored Thomas Cook's secret relationship relationship as money flowed
to developers. He represented that story at Mirror Indie dot org.
We'll be talking more about it, Peter, Thank you. Time
to fill up on the news. Tony Katz ninety three WIBC,
Good morning. What is going on with you? Dow futures

(01:04:41):
down three twenty eight. They were up nine billion yesterday.
NASDAK futures down to sixty six.

Speaker 1 (01:04:50):
This has to do with trade. This has to do
with tariffs.

Speaker 3 (01:04:56):
China has sanctioned five US subsidiaries of a South Korean
ship builder. They will prohibit Chinese organizations and individuals from
doing business with the sanctioned companies.

Speaker 1 (01:05:11):
This is the fight. Until this fight is over.

Speaker 3 (01:05:14):
Meanwhile, West Texas crewed by the barrel is down to
fifty eight dollars and fifteen cents brent crew just under
sixty two bucks a barrel at sixty one ninety six. Okay,
the ten year treasury, which is what the thirty year
fixed mortgage is based on is now down back in

(01:05:34):
those zeros to four point zero two six.

Speaker 1 (01:05:38):
Oil price is down ten year, Treasury is down.

Speaker 3 (01:05:44):
Gold right now is at forty one hundred and nine
dollars an ounce, and silver is at fifty dollars and
fifty four cents. And the high was it yesterday was
fifty three. The high on gold is forty one hundred
and eighty dollars. And when I say to you, I
can't figure it out. No, no, no, I can't figure

(01:06:07):
it out. I don't think the market can either. None
of this makes sense.

Speaker 1 (01:06:15):
None.

Speaker 3 (01:06:16):
We will get with doctor Matt Will economists at the
University of Indianapolis.

Speaker 1 (01:06:20):
We will try and make sense of it.

Speaker 3 (01:06:23):
These things, these things going up are a hedge against
economic calamity. Oil prices going down are a good thing,
allowing people to engage.

Speaker 1 (01:06:35):
Energy, to engage manufacturing.

Speaker 3 (01:06:37):
Other No, transportation costs are lower when oil prices are down,
so gas prices are down. No, Okay, Thus the confusion
we will be digging into it. I have no fear.
Tony Katz. By the way, I almost did it. I
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Still getting used to it.

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the way, Good to be with you. Ninety three WIBC.
Good morning, Come on Kyland Times play America's favorite game.

(01:08:04):
What the heck is that television theme song? Here is
how we play our game. Usually producer Carl he is
on assignment producer Kylon selects a television theme song from yesteryear.
I have to guess what it is. At least it
should have some level of challenge.

Speaker 6 (01:08:24):
It didn't have lyrics in it.

Speaker 1 (01:08:26):
Well, that's still not a level of challenge.

Speaker 3 (01:08:30):
But as is customary, of course, the chat room can
give suggestions as to what it is.

Speaker 1 (01:08:38):
You do that at YouTube YouTube dot com.

Speaker 3 (01:08:41):
Slash WIBC also I can ask, I can phone a friend.
Matt Bear played again on Kylon. Play that again, Matt Bear?
What is that theme song?

Speaker 13 (01:08:54):
That is Boys Some Buddies, Tony.

Speaker 3 (01:08:58):
Nice like that buzz some Buddies is actually Billy Joel.
This is the Fresh Prince of bel Air.

Speaker 1 (01:09:08):
There it is.

Speaker 6 (01:09:11):
Had to end it on a good note. Be'sfore I
turn it over to Kurt.

Speaker 3 (01:09:16):
I was sorry, I as soon as you listening to
Matt far scat.

Speaker 1 (01:09:22):
What do you? What are you doing? Is Peter Griffin
the fresh Prince?

Speaker 9 (01:09:26):
Hey, fresh Prince?

Speaker 1 (01:09:28):
It's pretty good. It's not really good. I don't know.
I don't have a Peter Griffin. That's a hard one.

Speaker 12 (01:09:35):
Did you do it?

Speaker 13 (01:09:36):
Is your Cartman?

Speaker 1 (01:09:37):
I could?

Speaker 3 (01:09:39):
I the only voice I can do from family guy,
and it's it's gross.

Speaker 1 (01:09:43):
Is the crease? Is the creepy neighbor?

Speaker 13 (01:09:45):
Oh that's so much fun to do?

Speaker 12 (01:09:46):
Though?

Speaker 1 (01:09:49):
Sure, I like that fresh prunce, fresh Prince Like that's
a stupid one to be able to do.

Speaker 13 (01:09:58):
That's damn good, though.

Speaker 3 (01:10:03):
Cartman is I think a standard impression. I think everyone
can do a basic Cartman impression.

Speaker 13 (01:10:10):
Oh no, they cannot.

Speaker 1 (01:10:11):
I can do a cartment impression.

Speaker 13 (01:10:14):
No, I can't do it. Impressions are my thing. But
I know a lot of people that try carbon and
just can't get it done.

Speaker 9 (01:10:20):
But not Matt.

Speaker 1 (01:10:24):
I'm not bad. I'm not bad at it. Kylon, Can
you do impressions?

Speaker 6 (01:10:28):
I don't know. You tell me after this week?

Speaker 1 (01:10:31):
No, it was the last week, so it's already been. Yeah,
I know, I know. That's ang. It's been.

Speaker 3 (01:10:37):
Uh. You you don't do a Trump impression. You can
do a Trump parody. Okay, that's different.

Speaker 1 (01:10:43):
That's it. But are there any impressions that you do?

Speaker 6 (01:10:47):
No, that was the first one I've ever done.

Speaker 1 (01:10:49):
Really, thanks to you. Real well, you know what, I
bring out the best in people, right, A team? Uh,
that's that's that's that's that's fantastic. I did not know.

Speaker 3 (01:11:02):
I would have figured, with all the acting chops and
everything else, that you do some kind of impression.

Speaker 6 (01:11:08):
No, just different characters, but never impressions.

Speaker 1 (01:11:10):
No.

Speaker 3 (01:11:11):
Okay, so you're more in the in the character as
opposed to an expression of character.

Speaker 1 (01:11:18):
Oh yeah, I have no idea what I just said there.

Speaker 6 (01:11:21):
It sounded well, it sounded pretty Yeah. You are a
professional actor, aren't you right.

Speaker 1 (01:11:27):
I'm not a professor. You are a professional actor.

Speaker 6 (01:11:30):
You have IMDb credits, Tony, don't lie.

Speaker 1 (01:11:32):
To Yeah, but as myself, I've i'm dB credits. No,
I take that back, I am a professional actor. Wow,
that's right.

Speaker 6 (01:11:42):
Don't give yourself, give yourself the credit.

Speaker 1 (01:11:45):
That is absolutely right there. I am huh.

Speaker 3 (01:11:51):
I I often think I should do more of that.
I think I would enjoy it. I just don't know
if I would enjoy in front of the camera or
behind the camera or because it's if you're.

Speaker 1 (01:12:02):
Doing theater, I forget.

Speaker 3 (01:12:04):
I think it was Denzel Washington who explained this, and
I thought he did an extremely good job. Theater is
a is an actors medium, right, it's you expressing to
an audience.

Speaker 1 (01:12:17):
Film is a director's medium. You could be doing anything.

Speaker 3 (01:12:20):
You don't know where the director wants that cut, wants
that scene to look like. The director can be a
focused on anything, and you're giving this impassioned thing. It
doesn't it's not about you. It's about what the director
sees as a vision for the film. So that's really interesting.
So would I rather be in front of a camera
and I'd rather be behind the camera in that regard,
But I don't see myself as a director I think

(01:12:41):
I can make an outrageous producer.

Speaker 1 (01:12:43):
I've always felt that I don't know if I would
be a good director or not.

Speaker 3 (01:12:52):
You, Kylon, would you would you direct or would you
just want to be in front of the camp.

Speaker 6 (01:12:55):
I have directed before? Yeah, I'm I'm a fan.

Speaker 1 (01:12:59):
So is it about the power?

Speaker 11 (01:13:02):
No.

Speaker 16 (01:13:02):
I have such strong visions though, and love being able
to help bring that across on camera.

Speaker 1 (01:13:09):
Yeah, a vision I've got. But if you don't do
what I want, so there will be there will be beatings.

Speaker 3 (01:13:14):
Just ask producer Kurt, who will be with us Wednesday
and Thursday and Friday. Kylin, thank you for the week
and a half you've given. Matt Bear, You've got traffic.
I'll catch you guys at noon