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Speaker 1 (00:16):
The Indianapolis International Airport will not play the message message
that was recorded by the Secretary of Homeland Security Christino.
The message says, hey, sorry for the long lines, but
Democrats shut down the government the airport, saying the Indianapolis

(00:39):
International Airport does not display content that is expressly political
or partisan. Okay, first of all, Tony Kats, that's me
ninety three WIBC. Good morning, Good to be with it,
great to be here. We've got State Center Liz Brown
coming up taking umbrage with a statement made by Attorney

(01:00):
General Tom Raketa on this show yesterday. We'll bring that
to you at eight fifteen. Be sure to tune in.
I this is interesting because, first of all, there's a
bunch of airports that are refusing to air this message.
The question before us is where do the rights exist.

(01:22):
I'm not particularly saying they're wrong. If there's a message
from the Secretary saying that Democrats said the shutdown, what
other messages could be given to the American people in
the future at airports? And I would now need to
go back and take a look at messages. Maybe they
played prior videos they played prior that did have a

(01:44):
political overtone to them and say well, what about this
and what about that? I mean, once you're saying no,
you're opening yourself up to what you have done in
the past. And I would argue that the airport must
know that, the Indianapolis Airport must know them. The people
in line waiting to get through TSA hate Democrats and Republicans.

(02:12):
They just want to get to their destination and this
doesn't help. So this falls under my philosophy of we
make it way too difficult to fly because we already
get people in a state of absolute anxious frenzy. The
way the airlines treat people, the way TSA treats people,

(02:35):
it creates insanity, and people are already a little bit insane.
So I don't want the video because I think it
heightens that and that is going to have a direct
impact on my flying experience. And the only thing I
want my flying experience to involve is the takeoff and
the landing. Eat your peanuts, drink your soft drink, and

(02:55):
shut up. Also wear a suit on a plane. You're
a grown man. I wear shorts and a tank top
and foot flops because I want to be comfortable. Oh
shut up, I'm a fifty two year old woman. But
I like to wear spandex because you know comfort. No, No,

(03:17):
same thing as true the twenty two year old woman. No,
stop it. This isn't the gym. Tired of having to
try and save people's souls. So I don't want the
video played. I don't want the video. But I'm asking
a different question. Does the airport have the right to

(03:40):
say no to the to Homeland Security which runs a TSA?
Is that allowed? And if so, well will they say no?
And if it's a Democrat president Democrat administration, I'm curious.
State Center Liz Brown up next the Attorney General talking
about her and immigration issues. What does the senator have

(04:05):
to say that is coming up? Keep it here? Tony
Katz ninety three WIBC, Good Morning. Yesterday, I had the
Attorney General on the show, Todd Raked, Attorney General Indiana,
And in that conversation yesterday, as he was discussing Tom Homan,

(04:27):
the borders are coming to Indiana, he was discussing this
idea of the Fairness Act, how we deal with immigration
in the state of Indiana, And he said this.

Speaker 2 (04:43):
It requires ice to or requires these local law enforcement
officials to honor ICE attainers instead of just letting illegal
aliens go acts, it has State Social Services ADDY start
collecting data on how many illegal aliens they're giving our
tax money to through welfare benefits. You know, So it

(05:06):
does a lot of good stuff got out of the
house real well, and it was stopped by liberal, a
liberal senator who calls herself a Republican. Her names Liz Brown.
She's from Fort Wayne. She just didn't want to hear
it for personal reasons. You know. She told me that
she had, you know, some kind of illegal alien relationship
in a family or something like that. She's backed off
that now, but you know, she didn't want to hear it.

(05:29):
So it just died in the Senate. And that's ridiculous.
We have to put hoosiers above these illegal aliens, and
we have problems with people like Liz Brown and the
Republican Party who don't want to do anything.

Speaker 1 (05:42):
From there, Senator Brown staff reached out and said we'd
like to respond. State Centaer. Liz Brown joins me right
now from a district to fifteen. I appreciate your staff
reaching out. This isn't the first time you have had
issue with how the Attorney General characterizes this. We go
back to an April thirtieth interview you did with fellow

(06:03):
radio host Casey Hendrickson out of woo and MNC and
Fort Wayne and South Bend, respectively. You have filed disciplinary
actions against Attorney General Rokeita. Talk to me about where
his allegation comes from regarding a legal immigration and your
own personal situation.

Speaker 3 (06:25):
Yeah, thanks Tony for having me on. I appreciate it
this morning, and I don't quite understand it. It's pretty
hard to defeat a lie when people kept well not
people are Attorney General, the highest elected law enforcement officer
in the state, continues to lie about my family. I
don't know how many times I can say I do

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not have an illegal alien in my family or a
relationship with a family member who is an illegal alien,
full stop. So I can't tell you, as a mother
how disturbing it is to hear someone continue to lie
about my family.

Speaker 4 (07:00):
So I appreciate this opportunity. I'll have a lot a value.

Speaker 1 (07:04):
Where this comes from. I have heard this before. I
don't think I've brought up much of it on the air.
Where does this allegation come from and what is the
denunciation of it outside of their lying about me?

Speaker 4 (07:18):
Well, they I mean, it's the attorney general. Let's just
be clear.

Speaker 3 (07:22):
The Attorney General is lying repeatedly. He's already been disciplined
by the Disciplinary Commission for breaking rules of professional conduct.

Speaker 4 (07:30):
And so I met, not with.

Speaker 3 (07:33):
Him, with his staff probably almost a year ago about
this bill. And there were significant issues that I had
with the bill, concerns, and one of them was then
reiterated to me or several, i should say, as the
bill was moving in the House with law enforcement and
the business community, and when I shared this with his staff,

(07:55):
not with him, never talked to him about this bill
until the end of s and when I shared it
with them, they said essentially thank you very much, and
neverhood back from them. So don't know if they made
any adjustments, but it was clear when it was introduced
they didn't. So this is about This is about centralizing

(08:17):
an incredible amount of power in one person's office. And
that person may be a Republican this morning, but they're not.
That office may not always stay that way, and I
think many of my colleagues have concerns. So for business,
if they quote can be accused of recruiting an illegal
alien and they don't have to do it knowingly. It

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could be no men's rail that was taken out the
knowledge of doing that act. They could lose their business
and you could put a My example is put a
help wanted sign up in your store and ten people
come and maybe one of them is an illegal alien.

Speaker 4 (08:57):
You recruited them. That's a problem. That's how the goal
was introduced.

Speaker 3 (09:01):
And then with respect of law enforcement, again the same
issue they have the Sheriff's Association in particular because again
it really falls on their shoulders because they're the ones
who are in charge of the jails.

Speaker 1 (09:16):
So let me now take a moment and make sure
I'm following talking to State Senator Liz Brown here in
Indiana District fifteen. It is House Built fifteen thirty one
that you voted against. It's House Built thirteen ninety three
that you voted in favor of. So if I am
to understand your position, you do not favor any level

(09:36):
of sanctuary city, any sanctuary status in the state of Indiana.
You do not favor any sanctuary type policy in the
state of Indiana. You just don't want anybody who hires
somebody who is here illegally by mistake to deal with
the consequences of doing so, if I am understanding right,

(09:56):
it would lead them to a conversation about doesn't everify
solve that problem. But go back to the first, am
I correct in my assessment that you don't favor sanctuary policies,
You don't favor any sanctuary policy for any city in
the state of Indiana, And you don't want people who
hire somebody illegally to face serious consequences.

Speaker 3 (10:18):
No, I said that I don't want them to face.
I don't I don't want illegal aliens in this country.
I want people to come into this country legally and
follow the.

Speaker 4 (10:25):
Rules, just like all of us do.

Speaker 3 (10:27):
And but that bill wasn't going to solve that problem, right.
So I am absolutely one hundred percent behind any law
enforcement association or city that thinks they don't also have
toult follow the rules of our state of federal government.
And that's an oath I took when I took this
office that I will follow the constitution not only of

(10:48):
the State of Indiana, but of the.

Speaker 4 (10:49):
United States one hundred percent.

Speaker 3 (10:51):
But getting back to this, this created extra burns for
the businesses and they didn't understand how this who's going
to work for them?

Speaker 4 (11:01):
They are all.

Speaker 3 (11:02):
We didn't have examples of businesses not following the law.
It was help us follow the law. And then with
law enforcement, which was the biggest piece to this bill.
This was about them understanding and honoring detainer warrants. There
hasn't been a sheriff who's come to me says we
are not happy to work with ICE or any other
law enforcement agency. The problem is that a detainer warrant,

(11:26):
which is what ICE issues, is.

Speaker 4 (11:28):
Not an arrest warrant. So there have to be certain.

Speaker 3 (11:32):
Procedures and processes followed so that the sheriffs are not
held liable and the sheriffs are not held in violation
of someone's due process.

Speaker 4 (11:41):
If they pick up the wrong person.

Speaker 1 (11:43):
So we go.

Speaker 3 (11:43):
They've asked for training, they've asked for training. Attorney General
had promised training or offered I should since I don't
know if you promised, and they never got it, and
that's really important. They want to do the right thing.
They have been very forthcoming with me about this. They
want to do the right thing. They want to make
sure they better get the.

Speaker 4 (12:01):
Bad guys off the street, and they want.

Speaker 3 (12:03):
To assist other law enforcement and agencies, including ICE. But
they have to understand and have the right forms and
processes in place. And that's where the problem is. It's
not just grabbing someone.

Speaker 1 (12:16):
And to the I'll call it cause I accusation being
made that you're harboring somebody in the country illegally in
your own family. You're saying flat.

Speaker 4 (12:25):
Out not true, absolutely not true. Never said that. Why
would I say that to you? I mean, it's it's no,
you know, like is Green?

Speaker 3 (12:35):
I know, why would I say? Why would I lie
about one of my children? Because that's how this started. Well,
why would I lie about someone in my family? I'm
an American citizen. I've literally had to say that to
people now, I'm an American citizen. My husband's an American citizen.
Are children are American citizens?

Speaker 4 (12:54):
I mean, full stop.

Speaker 1 (12:56):
So one of the things that is happening is that
people are trying to primary you. You have got people
announcing that they're running for office. Conversation, there's this conversation
which you are elucidating here. There has been your opposition
to constitutional Carrie in the state of Indiana. There's been

(13:17):
a question asked about what can be described Senator Brown
as your conservative bona fides, How do you respond to
those people, Well, I'm.

Speaker 3 (13:27):
Going to just say, you have to look at my
history of how strong I've been on the pro life issues,
which just came from the largest pro life dinner last
night in the country up here in Northeast Indiana.

Speaker 4 (13:38):
That's number one for me. That's always number one.

Speaker 3 (13:42):
And when you look at the issues, whether we're talking
about this issue, I am trying to get a bill
passed that will pass muster and also will fix the problem.
And so I didn't have with respect to fifteen thirty one,
And yes, I voted for thirteen nine, which makes sure
if you pick them up, if an illegal alien is

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arrested on criminal charges and you find out they're an
illegal alien, you must immediate notified ice. That went through,
no problem. I voted to band sanctuary cities and support
if they're trying to avoid the law, any law enforcement
in those cities, et cetera. But people can say things

(14:25):
about you, Tony, people can say things.

Speaker 4 (14:27):
You don't believe this, but I'll stand by my record.

Speaker 3 (14:30):
I stand by the citizens of Northeast Indiana and the
District fifteen. I listen to my constituents, and my job
as a state Senator is to look at these laws
and sy art, can they be implemented, will they help
the state of Indiana, And what's the problem they're trying
to fixts? Do you with every single bill and I

(14:50):
talk to my committee, I might add, as a judiciary
chair to my committee about these bills.

Speaker 4 (14:55):
These decisions are never made in a vacuum.

Speaker 1 (14:58):
Do you regret not holding a hearing on House Bill
fifteen thirty one.

Speaker 3 (15:06):
No, there were too many problems with the bill. There
were too many issues with the bill. And as I said, Tony,
I shared that when the Attorney General's Office staff came
to me last December and they acknowledged that, they acknowledged
what I was saying to them, and they didn't change.
They might have made some amendments in the House, but

(15:27):
the concerns that the business community and how to implement it,
the concerns from law enforcement for them and how to
implement it didn't change because they came to me. They
came to me, and I know law enforcement shared the
concerns with the Attorney General's office. And I might add

(15:48):
another part of the bill, which we haven't really talked about,
is that the Attorney General's Office is consolidating in this
bill more power to investigate what would be an executive
branch function to investigate the agencies that the executive branch runs,

(16:08):
And I think that's something the governor is more than
capable of doing and would be.

Speaker 1 (16:12):
So Now was the you're introducing something new? Was the
objection to what law enforcement could or couldn't do or
the tassels put upon them, or was the issue that
Todd Raketa would have too much power?

Speaker 3 (16:23):
No, no, no, I'm not introducing I'm it's a big bill, Tony.
I mean, there's only been a few issues that have
been talked about publicly. I'm just saying there was a lot,
and my committee was aware this is a lot.

Speaker 4 (16:36):
This is a lot to fix.

Speaker 1 (16:38):
State centers finish up, please go ahead.

Speaker 3 (16:42):
Oh no, it was going to take a lot of work.
But I think the biggest thing is is it has
been continually suggested that law enforcement isn't doing their job.
And I will stand behind them every single day. And
they come to me and say they can't fix this
isn't going to work, then I'm going to believe them
every day.

Speaker 1 (17:00):
State Center Liz Brown District fifteen. I appreciate your staff
reaching out. I appreciate you calling in and being with us.
Center Brown, thank you. Time to fill up on the news.
Tony Katz ninety three WIBC, Good morning, Good to be
with you. Fill up on the news. We do it
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Silver is at fifty two dollars and seventy cents. Hit
a high at fifty three dollars and thirteen cents. I

(18:27):
don't know. I don't know, And I got to assume
with this kind of madness in the gold and silver market,
in the metals market, there are people saying, yeah, we're
not buying. They don't know what's going to happen. So now,
if you've got gold or silver, what's the what do
you do? You can't force someone to buy the stuff.
They're buying at a premium. They're buying it a discount. Huh.

(18:55):
I still tell you. You know, we had a doctor
Matt Will on the show on Tony Kats Today yesterday
and he was not, you know, abandoned ship on any level.
We discussed AI stocks and a whole series of things.
But people go into gold and silver because it's a hedge, right,

(19:16):
there's a concern. And I keep seeing the money go
into the AI stocks and I keep seeing the market grow.
But I am convinced that this does not make sense.
I'm convinced that this is not right. I've got two
stories for you. Bank of America topped expectations on a

(19:39):
forty three percent surgeon investment banking revenue. This is the
headline from CNBC. They're saying that revenue increase ten point
eight percent, profit up twenty three percent, so you know
they're overjoyed. Morgan Stanley hosting third quarter earnings that topped

(20:02):
expectations by the largest margin in nearly five years. I
I swear to you, I don't know what to make
of it all because if you ask Midwest main Street,

(20:23):
things are not great. They're not great. And then I
look at the investment in gold and the numbers, and
I'm like, Okay, I'm clearly correct, except what if I'm not.
What if there's actually no correlation between the two things.

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I have a harder time with that. Let me know
what you think. On the Twitter exit Tony Kats in
the chatroom, YouTube dot com, slash WIBC and everybody in there,
they were talking about the days earlier. But you know
people in the chat him have problems. Yeah, but we
love him. We keep him in the chat room so

(21:09):
we can keep an eye on him.

Speaker 5 (21:26):
Okay, I'm I would.

Speaker 1 (21:37):
Assume this is a kid show or weird superhero show sometimes.
Is that how you feel about me? Yes, it's producer, Kurt,
That's how I feel about you. Tony Katz ninety three WYBC,
Good morning, Good to be with you. It's time to
play America's favorite game. What the heck is that television
theme song? Here's how we play our game. Producer Kurt,

(21:58):
filling in for producer Kyle and filling in for producer Carl,
who's on assignment, picks a television theme song from yesteryear.
I have to guess what that theme song is. The
chat room is allowed to assist, and they have. I
will get to that in a moment. You have to
be in the chatroom YouTube dot com slash WIBC. But
first let me check in with Matt Bear. I phone

(22:19):
a friend, Matt Bear, what is that television theme song?
That's Land of the Laws, Tony Nice. I don't think
it is. Is it that? Producer? Why don't you start
from the beginning. Why don't you play that from the beginning, right?

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So it's got the whole mystery vibe, and then it
gets into that and that's why I said kids show.
While I'm getting text messages from everybody's favorite blacksmith, Jonathan
Nagel Nagel House Forge, he's won fortune fire, the guy's legit.
He built my battle app. And of course the chat

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room has decided that the answer is goosebumps. Yeah. So
when I said it sounds like a kid's show, yeah,
I was right on at that producer current. That's right,
it's accurate. That is that is true. That is straight
up fact. Good good choice, by the way, good choice.

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I would not have gotten that on my own. It's hard. Ever.
I look through the list and I'm like, what do
I choose? Yeah? Yeah, you realize the work that producer
Carl does and that when he's not here, everything goes
to crap. That's the reason I'm the backup to the backup.
By the way, do you think he's coming back? He's
on assignment. That's that's all we're allowed to say. Yeah,
he's on assign. Do you think he's coming back or

(23:44):
do you think his assignment was to find a better job? Yes, yeah,
it's it's very possible. It's very possible. And who can
blame him on? Tony Katz Today at noon, we still
have a shutdown. It's still going on and it isn't
going to stop any time soon. So we all understand

(24:08):
each other. Democrats have made it clear they want this,
they like this, and they're going to scream and yell
and blame it on Republicans all they can, but Republicans
are clear they're not doing it. They're not going to

(24:29):
solve the Democrats problem for them. They have to vote
for the continuing Resolution, get the government back open, and
then they can work on the other subjects. The subject
of course being Obamacare subsidies and extending them. That's the subject.
They want to extend the Obamacare subsidies to the Democrats

(24:49):
that they voted for in the Inflation Reduction Act, which
sunset at the end of twenty twenty five.

Speaker 4 (24:55):
Me.

Speaker 1 (24:56):
I don't want to extend them. I believe President Trump will.
The problem for the Democrats is it won't be on
their terms. It'll be on President Trump's terms, which means
he'll get the political victory. And the Democrats don't want
that and they don't want to be seen at any
level of agreement with Donald Trump. So they do this.
They do this, and when they're not doing this, they

(25:19):
are basically charging Speaker Johnson's office. This is about Ms. Grijalva,
who is the congresswoman elect from Arizona taking over the

(25:43):
seat from her grandfather. I believe it is Raoul Grihalva,
and she has not yet been sworn in, and what
Speaker Johnson is saying, I'm not about to bring the
house back in while you guys have in the Senate
have not voted for a continuing resolution. It's just not happening.
So she hasn't been seated. Some argue she isn't being

(26:06):
seated because she's going to be a vote in favor
of releasing the Epstein files. Well, for that alone, I've
seed her. I want the Epstein files. And the Democrats
are screaming at Capitol Police. Remember when they liked the
Capitol police. Oh those were good times. That never really happened.
And they're screaming at Capitol Police and they're engaged in

(26:27):
the stunt. Everything is a stunt. They know where the
Speaker's office is. Why didn't they knock on his door
one at a time and say, hey, how do we
get this continuing resolution handled? But I mean, this is
the House, and really this is a Senate issue. Can
we get us see our goating here? The answer is sure,

(26:47):
vote for it. Republicans, I don't. Their history is they'll move,
they'll capitulate. Right, we know this, but I haven't seen it,
and i'd I had this conversation with Noah Rothman, and
it turns out we were saying the same thing in
different ways. He had written a piece at National Review

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about how Republicans are getting wobbly. I'm like, where in
the world are you seeing they're getting wobbly? And his
argument is, if you say you're going to start cutting
from the federal government, start cutting, you're gonna do this,
start doing this, don't just say it, do it. And
so it was an argument about fulfilling and following through
and what you're gonna say. My argument was I don't

(27:31):
see Democrats winning this thing at all, and we were
agreeing through these different kinds of statements. But his point
is well taken. Now we're starting to see the government cuts,
and yes, Democrats are getting angry and angrier about it.
That's okay, that's okay. We forget that. We are playing
a game of politics here. Now, real lives are affected.

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Today's October fifteenth. Military won't get paid today. Now you've
got Trump and the Pentagon moving dollars around to I'm
sure they get paid on October twentieth. Staffers won't get paid.
Now you ask me, why is the members of Congress
get paid? Actually a different piece of legislation that requires
them to get paid. They can decide to spend their pay,

(28:14):
they can donate their pay, they can do a lot
of things, but they still get paid. And that's why
that happens. It's actually a different law in effect there.
But if staffers don't get paid, that's all right, that's
all right. You know, this past week, last week into
this week over there at iHeart, some fifty plus people

(28:36):
lost their jobs on air, behind the scenes, promotions, production.
You know who cried for them? No one, good people
doing their work. But the industry is what the industry is.
You want me to cry for the Senate staffer. I
know some Senate staffers. I'm not doing that.