Tony Katz And The Morning News Full Show 10-15-25

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Speaker 1 (00:24):
Is there any appetite for either Leader Schumer or the
King Jeffries for an extension for.

Speaker 2 (00:31):
The A C A. How does how do they see
that conversation of having it with the White House, not
the Speaker of the House, which I think is the speaker.

Speaker 3 (00:40):
Right, Well, you wouldn't expect him to have the conversation
with the speaker because the Speaker is waiting for Donald
Trump to tell him what to do.

Speaker 2 (00:47):
So why waste your time talking to the speaker? And
if that was the case, Michael Steele, why did the
women of the Democratic Women of the House storm down
the Speaker John's office? And everything's a stunt and nothing
is conversation. And we are in day ninety two.

Speaker 4 (01:08):
Trillion of the shutdown.

Speaker 2 (01:10):
Tony Katz ninety three WIBC, good morning, good to be
with you. So now the speaker isn't the speaker because
he's doing the bidding of Donald Trump. Dun, dun, dun.
This is all they've got. This is the Argument's fine,
this is the new one last, it's not even really
that new. Doing the bidding of Donald Trump, donald Trump's

(01:32):
hand picked Speaker of the House. I don't know what
they're gonna say next. It's always handpicked of some kind.
The House is not going into session. Speaker Johnson is
keeping his members away. It would be who the Democrats
in the Senate to vote for continuing resolution, but they

(01:56):
wanted the moment they wanted today, when the military is
supposed to get paid. President Trump is said they're gonna
move money around to the Pentagon to make that happen.
Speaker Johnson has already said this shutdown is going to
last a long time because this is what Schumer wants.
They believe they can crack Republicans in two as per
usual and make them heal because Republicans in the end

(02:19):
are soft, which is something we see here in Indiana.
Not all of them and not every subject, but we
see definite softness here. We're gonna get into the redistricting
conversation where I encourage anybody who wants to read insanity
to go to my Twitter feed, and I encourage the
people who think that that's going to somehow sway me.

(02:41):
Screaming at me is gonna sway my opinion. No, we
should redistrict. And I have.

Speaker 4 (02:50):
The ultimate.

Speaker 2 (02:55):
Discussion point on my side, which I will get to
maybe for the popcorn moment. But as for this shutdown,
Democrats want it. Democrats have decided this is good politics.
Now that you have October fifteenth here and the military
is not getting paid, except Trump is trying to move

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money around to get them paid. The next big date
is October twentieth, when congressional staffers won't get paid. Okay,
what do you want from me? It's a continuing resolution.
You want to increase Obamacare subsidies? No, no, no, Now,

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I'm gonna lose that battle overall, because we said it
here from the beginning. Trump is absolutely going to do it,
and he's going to steal the issue from the Democrats,
which the Democrats don't want. I don't want the subsidies increased.
I don't want them extended. And we should always remember
that Democrats agreed to this in the Inflation Reduction Act.

(04:02):
They knew it would sunset at the end of twenty
twenty five. So go ahead, go to at Tony Katz
on Twitter acts and keep screaming you're lefty, you're just angry.
Whatever it's there for you. We're gonna keep honestly assessing
the situation, and you have absolutely no sway because screaming
if somebody doesn't get your sway. You could try and

(04:25):
approach that might work, called facts, data and a theory.
But I'm not holding my breath. But I'll keep looking
to see if somebody goes down that road. Tony Katz,
that's me, by the way. What's going on? Everybody? Ninety
three WIBC, Good morning. It was reported that Hamas was

(04:54):
not returning the remains of hostages. This led to a
conversation about the IDF ramping up. The IDF being the
Israeli Defense Forces and you say, oh my gosh, this
thing couldn't last twenty four hours. Well you're talking about
Hamas here. What did you think was gonna happen? Tony Katz,

(05:19):
ninety three WIBC, Good morning, Good to be with you.
Then there were the remains of four hostages. Three have
been identified, family already being notified of who they are.
They want these remains back, they want to give proper burials.

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So what of the remaining twenty four dead hostages and
will their remains be returned? I bring this up because
if there is to be a peace deal that President
Trump put forward and signed and all the fanfare, well,

(06:03):
then the peace deal involves Hamas doing their job because
Israel has done their job. Now I understand how people
who support terrorists won't discuss such a thing, but it
is clear and obvious that there is a slow rolling
going on. The Israeli Air Force conducted an air strike

(06:24):
against movements of several suspects towards IDF troops in an
area of the strip. Remember, they have not pulled out
completely from the Gaza Strip. They moved to a determined line,
but they are not out of a Gaza strip. And
these things are starting to escalate because Hamas has not

(06:45):
done what they said they would do. Further, Hamas has
been very very clear they have.

Speaker 4 (06:52):
No interest in disarming.

Speaker 2 (06:55):
Now, we said this, We discussed it here honestly and
clearly that AMAS stated when they quote unquote accepted the
deal that they are going to be a part of
any future government of Gaza. They're not leaving, they said so.

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Of course, Hamas said so, they have no plan of
giving up power. They handed back the hostages, which is
an interesting movement and of itself. Then they started executing
Palestinians who they claim to were collaborators with Israel. There
are a fair amount of Palestinians who don't want these
people at all. And there's a fair amount of Palestinians
who were with them on October seventh, an undeniable fact.

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So now amas Is saying we have no plans of disarming,
goes now to President Trump, Oh, would take Hamas to disarm?
And can you guarantee that it's going to happen?

Speaker 4 (07:52):
They're going to disarm?

Speaker 5 (07:53):
And because they said they were going to disarm, and
if they don't disarm, we will disarm them.

Speaker 4 (07:58):
How you do that?

Speaker 2 (07:59):
I have to explain that to you.

Speaker 4 (08:01):
But if they don't disarm, we will disarm them.

Speaker 2 (08:04):
They know I'm not playing games. Now he is right,
he doesn't have to answer that question for the reporter.
But we should also be clear that there's only one
way to disarm them. Now what now for Magaville? There
becomes a very very large conversation of what exactly does
this mean? I does that mean that there are going

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to be troops helping the Israelis disarm them? Does that
mean it's like, okay, Israel, go do your thing. And
now you've got these Muslim and other nations. Are nations saying, hey,
amass supposed to disarm?

Speaker 4 (08:41):
We all agreed to a deal.

Speaker 2 (08:42):
What do you think is gonna happen? Do you have
a Ranian response? There's a lot here, but let's start
with the basics and make sure we all understand each other.
The people who have been supporting Hamas these last two
years by wearing their kafias, flying Palestinian flags and screaming
like freaks, they don't want Hamas to disarm. They want

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Jews dead, Israel, God in America destroyed. It's always what
they've wanted. It is as clear as day that they're
not giving this up. In order to get rid of Hamas,
you must.

Speaker 4 (09:15):
End the Iranian regime.

Speaker 2 (09:17):
Now that is a very war mongering statement, but it
is also true. So what does one do with that information?
You either have the world as it is, or you
go about the decisions and the maneuvers that get you
to the better place. You can't imagine it away. You

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can't dream it away, like Barack Obama did with the
Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action. You must take an action,
and the action is the Iranians because they're the ones
who fund Hamas. And if you cut off the money,
you end the thing. Some stragglers here and there, but
be clear, We're not done here. The world's not done here.
And Trump brought the world into this. The answer is

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gonna be no, no, no, it's okay. If Hamas is armed,
you Israel stand back.

Speaker 4 (10:07):
We're gonna build buildings.

Speaker 2 (10:08):
Now, who thinks it's gonna work out that way? They
signed the deal. Now, let's see who honors it. Let's
see how quickly Hamas is gone. And let's see who
in the United States, from the Indianapolis City County Council
to Washington, d C. Supports Hamas's existence. Matt Bear's got

(10:30):
traffic on the fives. What's up? Matthew might know that
a phoney? Hey got guineas? Just then, yesterday, President Trump

(10:59):
for turning from the Middle East the ceremony to present
to Erica Kirk, the widow of the late Charlie Kirk,
the Presidential Medal of Freedom. And there will be plenty
of people who will try and dismiss all of it.

Speaker 5 (11:24):
One month after Charlie's death, we still feel the terrible
shock and the pain of his loss. Like just about
nobody I can think of, Charlie Kirk was one of
a kind. He was unstoppable, and he really was boy
When he had an idea in his head. Oh, he
would call me, sir, please, you haven't done it yet,

(11:45):
to Charlie, relax, just relax.

Speaker 2 (11:48):
He didn't relax.

Speaker 5 (11:49):
It called me the next day again it got it done.
But he was like indomitable and always will be. He's
really irreplaceable. Nobody can to replace him, but they're going
to do great. But you can't replace that kind of
person and that kind of talent. Frankly, the word talent
is an important word, but that kind of talent.

Speaker 2 (12:10):
The people who see this and are upset with and
are the people get upset about everything, pay them no mind.
In a very weird bit of commentary, some people were
commenting on what Erica Kirk was wearing that she was smiling. Listen,
I don't know what it's like to lose a spouse,

(12:32):
and I my deal is I don't get to find
out that that's our deal. I don't know.

Speaker 4 (12:38):
Maybe many married couples have that deal as well.

Speaker 2 (12:44):
Would I? How would I know what life is one
day to the next. She saw the president, she smiled,
and somehow that's Oh my gosh, she's a terrible widow.
It's the it's it's a level of ugly that only
social media could create. Now, this actually, this ugly goes
into another story that I'll get into regarding some absolutely dopey, ignorant,

(13:09):
incredibly stupid young Republicans. Good lord, did you not think
your text messages were going to be found out for
the world? Did you not think that character assassination was
job number one? I'll get to that story and all
of its parts. But there's so nothing wrong with this.

(13:31):
There's so nothing out of the realm with this. The
issue are the people who want to still scream that
somehow that Charlie Kirk was a racist. They're the people
who will scream racism about everything. They are the chicken littles,
they are the sky is falling crowd. You're not supposed

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to respect them. I can't stop them from screaming it.
But they shouldn't ask for respect like somehow they've offered
up some insight that has value and worthy of consideration.
They haven't. It's not and they don't deserve any respect.
So do yourself a favor. Stop getting yourself worked up

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by these people, openly dismiss them, and then move on
with your day. And if you're in the business of
honoring people right November twenty six, that's the midterms. Someone's
got to win an election, someone's got to lose an election.

Speaker 4 (14:35):
Focus on the ballot box.

Speaker 2 (14:38):
That's my advice. I think it's good advice. Tony Katz
at ninety three w IBC Good Morning. I I.

Speaker 6 (15:00):
Requires ICE to or requires these local law enforcement officials
to honor ICE attainers instead of just letting illegal.

Speaker 2 (15:07):
Aliens go acts.

Speaker 6 (15:10):
It has State Social Services Agency start collecting data on
how many illegal aliens they're giving our tax money to
through welfare benefits. So it does a lot of good
stuff got out of the house real well, and it
was stopped by liberal, a liberal senator who calls herself
for Republican.

Speaker 4 (15:29):
Her names Liz Brown.

Speaker 6 (15:30):
She's from Fort Wayne. She just didn't want to hear it.

Speaker 2 (15:33):
That was the Attorney General Todd Rakeda yesterday on this show,
Tony Katz, ninety three WIBC Good Morning, calling out Liz
Brown regarding illegal immigration. And then I get a message
from Liz Brown's staff, from her staff saying, hey, we'd

(15:57):
like to respond to this, and I said, okay, So Senator,
State Senator Liz Brown will be here at eight point
fifteen to respond to the statement from the Attorney General
Todd Rokita. We will talk about immigration or legal immigration,
what we do about anybody who's engaging a sanctuary policy

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in the state of Indiana. Looking forward to the conversation,
staff reached out. I said, right on, come on, let's
have the talk. A good learning lesson for everybody in
the General Assembly.

Speaker 4 (16:33):
Just reach out.

Speaker 2 (16:35):
It's an easy place.

Speaker 4 (16:38):
Say your piece.

Speaker 2 (16:39):
We'll discuss it. Just that simple, nothing more, nothing less.
Let's see if other people try it. In the meantime,
there is a very, very stupid story going around, and
it's a story of people being stupid, truly truly ignorant.

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And I'm not talking about the ladies of the view.
Talking to Cheryl Hines, the wife of Robert F. Kennedy Junior,
the Secretary of Health and Human Services.

Speaker 7 (17:12):
And when he announced basically that he believed he found
some causal links between autism and thailand al, it created
a lot of panic and women who were being told
by their obgui ns who look at them that thailanil,
if necessary to treat pain during pregnancy, is safe. What
would you say, And I know you're not a medical professional,
but to women who now feel anxious and nervous because

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their doctors telling them one thing, but the top public
health professionals telling them something very different.

Speaker 2 (17:39):
I will share that with you in the popcorn moment.
At seven fifteen, Politico runs a story. Now, anything involving
Politico I take with a grain of salt. Always. They
run a story leaked messages exposed young Republicans race chat.

Speaker 4 (18:02):
And they got access to.

Speaker 2 (18:05):
Thousands of private messages of these Republican leaders. Young people.
When I say young people, they're in their twenties. They're adults, right,
It's like college students. They're adults, and we have to
start referring to them as such. They're joking about everything
and anything. They're talking about everything. If it's a racist comment,

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of its an anti Semitic comment, of an anti gay comment, it's.

Speaker 4 (18:30):
It is just this full on level of what in
the world are you doing.

Speaker 2 (18:38):
There is a conversation about there is guy talk, there's
a conversation about how friends talk to each other. There's
a conversation about what it is you put out on
a text. This is nuts.

Speaker 4 (18:50):
I agree.

Speaker 2 (18:53):
That if someone were to look at a text message
between two brothers, let's say a text chain, it could
probably get pretty raunchy.

Speaker 4 (18:58):
It could probably get pretty rough, probably.

Speaker 2 (19:00):
Be like, oh my gosh, brother speaking to a brother
could have some commentary. A friend speaking to a friend
could have some commentary that you would find offensive and obscene.
But they're talking to each other and jogging with each other.
It has no basis in how they may view the world.
If you are the vice chair of the Kansas Young

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Republicans and you're using the N word because you're not
allowed to say certain things on air in texts repeatedly,
not in a quote aspect, how do you not know
that that's gonna get used against you? What exactly is
wrong with you? And for the record, and for what

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purpose are you engaged in it? Dear lord, there are
people talking about gas chambers. I mean, it's all over
the map, and it's all completely ridiculous, And yes, it
is more than okay to say, what in the world
is wrong with you? People are getting fired, well, of

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course they're getting fired. Some of these people were associated
with I believe Representative Alistafanak, who's running a campaign for governor,
and she's firing people.

Speaker 4 (20:18):
Of course she is what kind of crazy?

Speaker 2 (20:24):
A guy who identified himself as the general Counsel for
the New York State Young Republicans.

Speaker 4 (20:32):
It goes on and on.

Speaker 2 (20:36):
There are two things here. Never deny ridiculousness, never deny
something that's stupid as being stupid, and saying so that's gross,
it is gross. Two things can be true at the
same time. We are now fully in because man, they've

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opened the box. Welcome to the dawn of unrelenting context
free character assassination.

Speaker 4 (21:08):
This stuff has some context.

Speaker 2 (21:09):
As I read it, I'll allow anybody to mount to defense,
but it has some context just gross people being gross, not.

Speaker 4 (21:19):
Having a mind, not thinking, not prethinking, just thinking that
everything's gonna be fine.

Speaker 2 (21:26):
But now you will see the objective here is to
destroy reputations.

Speaker 4 (21:33):
That's going to be the objective.

Speaker 2 (21:34):
You're going to see this happen in a mass level,
and with the world of AI, we're not going to
be one hundred percent sure what is real and what
is not, and we're gonna have to wait to get
information and wait to get verification before we can move
forward with thoughts and ideas. But this is now where
we're at in the timeline of the darkest timeline.

Speaker 4 (21:55):
And then it should be noted that we should.

Speaker 2 (21:59):
Not be afraid when it's on our side to say
that's disgusting and you're wrong. The Democratic Party has an
attorney general candidate in Virginia by the name of Jay
Jones who put in text messages that he wanted to
kill the Republican Speaker of the House of Virginia and
his kids. And not a Democrat in Virginia has asked

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him to resign, not a one. They're all standing by him.
I discuss stories that are out there, but I don't
get lectured to by people who won't say, Hey, you
said you wanted to murder kids, you don't get to
run for office. I don't take lectures from those people ever,
neither should do so, because I shouldn't say it that way.

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I'm trying to figure out a way to be polite
about this, and I'm not particularly interested in so in
that I don't believe I have to do so. Tony Katz,
ninety three WIBC, Good morning. Redistricting and property taxes are
two different things. And if people want the State of
Indiana to bring down property taxes, which is exactly what

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I want, let's go organize and let's go pressure these
members of the General Assembly to lower property taxes. Let's go,
who's taking the lead on this, who's organizing this, what's
the bipartisanship on this?

Speaker 4 (23:38):
Tell me where to be.

Speaker 2 (23:40):
I'm all in. The property tax issue is a big issue.
It is a large deal. And yes, the General Assembly
failed on this subject. There is no question here. I'm
not in debate about that. The argument of you can't
talk about redistricting because of property taxes is a child's
argument meant made by Democrats. Oh oh, throwing bombs this morning,

(24:07):
am I two subjects can exist at the same time.
My conversation about redistricting has no bearing on where I
am regarding property taxes or my carrying on the subject.
The redistricting issue is about calling the special session and saying,

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should we change the boundaries in the state of Indiana?
And I vote yes, and I believe the General Assembly
should vote yes, and I believe the General Assembly should
vote yes because Nancy Pelosi is telling you that this
is a good idea.

Speaker 3 (24:51):
That added five seats, which meant members had to give
up some of their Democrats to do that. Zoe Lafgan,
our chair of our caucus, and Peter Aguilar's the chair
of the Bigger call because they they led the way
on this though has just been remarkable. So our delegation
had to vote for this the state Legislature, House and

(25:12):
Senate and on the leadership of speak Arevas and pro
tem Leader of the Senate Maguire. They then supported what
we sent them. And then of course Gavin Newsom carried
the ball down the field is carrying the ball down
the field, and we're very proud of that. But everybody,
since we're all into it, people have you know, you

(25:33):
have to own the ground to win an election, so
everybody has a vested interest in California and doing this.

Speaker 2 (25:39):
So it's we had a plan.

Speaker 3 (25:41):
If other states have a plan to do, but you know,
we only need three seats to win to make how
came the Speaker understood.

Speaker 2 (25:50):
I'm sick and tired of trying to drag you guys
into a rational point of view. And I'm talking about everybody,
not just those in the General Assembly. Everybody who thinks
that district think it's oh, oh my gosh, how dare you?
Their plan is to steal as many seats as they
can to make Hakeem Jeffries the Speaker. You think it's
beneath you in Indiana to redistrict. Look at the fight

(26:13):
that you're in. Do you not see what's happening. Well,
this wouldn't happen if Texas was Texas can do what
Texas does, and if it was contained to Texas. I
wouldn't even be in this place because I wasn't in
this place until California decided they were going to redistrict
as retaliation. What makes you think it's gonna start with California,

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Nancy BLOWSI just told you there's a plan. She just
told you. Everyone's got a best in interest except for
the Republicans in Indiana who want to think they're above
it all. And we don't need to redistrict here. I
need you to learn how to fight, and right now
you're not doing the jobs. So allow me to remind you.
You need to learn how to fight.

Speaker 4 (26:55):
This is what you're up against.

Speaker 2 (26:58):
And you're gonna tell me that somehow it's beneath you. No, no, no, no.

Speaker 4 (27:03):
Not doing it is insane. We should be redistricting.

Speaker 2 (27:07):
We should at the.

Speaker 4 (27:08):
Very least have the special session and hold the vote.

Speaker 2 (27:12):
I've had people on my social media feed you're say
you're a conservative, believe in physical responsibility.

Speaker 4 (27:17):
All the money wasted.

Speaker 2 (27:18):
I can cut seventeen progressive programs in the state of
Indiana by throwing a dart at a board. You're gonna
tell me about the money, Sit down, Be quiet. It's
a silly argument. I'm paying no attention to it. I
am paying attention to the fact that redistricting needs to happen.

Speaker 4 (27:34):
I am in favor of it.

Speaker 2 (27:35):
Maybe I'll lose the fight, but my argument to sound,
and it has nothing to do with property taxes. Now,
I want the people who want to lower property taxes,
me being one of them, to organize, walk into the
state House and demand it. Stop complaining from the sidelines,
go do the thing. I'm with you, I'm there. Tell

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me where to be.

Speaker 4 (28:01):
But my conversation about.

Speaker 2 (28:03):
Redistriing is directly to those elected officials. This is the fight, kids,
Go fight. Tony Katz ninety three WIBC. Good morning, Gear

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there it is. It's a story you need to hear
to believe than grab your popcorn, because there is more

(29:57):
uh this story about the Pentagon Press. The Pentagon changing
the rules heccess Press Office outlining new rules requiring Beat
reporters to sign a pledge not to obtain or use
on authorized material, even if the information is unclassified, and
any journalist who doesn't sign the pledge risks losing physical

(30:19):
access to the Pentagon, and so ABC, CBS, CNN, NBC,
and Fox refuse to sign the statement, says today, we
joined virtually every other news organization declining to agree to
the Pentagon's new requirements, which will restrict journalist's ability to

(30:40):
keep the nation in the world in forms of important
national security issues. The policies without precedent and threatens core
journalistic protections. We will continue to cover the US military
as each of our organizations has done for many decades,
upholding the principles of a free and independent press. Yeah,
I would argue they're right in that if if there's

(31:03):
a real question about if you're given some kind of
information that could help the enemy, should should you publish that?
If you're given information that could harm the United States?
Should you publish that. I think that that's a constant,
legitimate conversation, and one about well, what does the journalist do.
I have this information, if it was obtained because someone
gave it to you, what do you do? Well, this

(31:26):
is really about shutting down leaks. That's a problem for
the Pentagon, and certainly that is part of the reason
to replace people across the media landscape, across the governmental
landscape who are involved for issues of ideology and narrative

(31:48):
and not based on what's best for the nation. But
I'm a journalist and I get this information, and now
if I print it, I don't get access. No, no, no,
I'll do this from the outside. I think that this
is something that that he Seth is going to lose on.
We'll see how it plays out. But the story I
wanted to share with you was Cheryl Hines on The

(32:10):
View where she is the wife of the Secretary of
Health and Human Services, Robert F. Kennedy Junior, and they're
asking her about his conversations about Tyler and Alseie to
metafin and autism and now women who are pregnant. They're
not sure what to take and they start pressing her
about her husband profession. Well, they.

Speaker 1 (32:33):
Said, consult your doctor before taking it. That was the
That's what they were saying, and that holds. So I agree. Listen,
I've been pregnant. I understand it's stressful being pregnant. I
found because you're so concerned with everything. I didn't drink

(32:53):
caffeine when I was pregnant. So to say, hey, you know,
consult your doctor before you take this, I agree with that,
and I think that's okay for moms to here. Eryl, Yeah,
go ahead, out all.

Speaker 2 (33:07):
Right, I am this This is not your fight really
to be fighting. This is your husband's. Thank you, But
I just want to say, I just I do want
to say.

Speaker 8 (33:19):
You know, he's not a doctor, and he's not a professional. Yes,
and oftentimes when he's talking. Oftentimes when he's speaking, he
is speaking not with the best information.

Speaker 2 (33:35):
That we can get. Because Woopie Goldberg has decided she's
got the best information and starts with listen, it's this
is your husband here, but let me tell you how
terrible he is to its. Cheryl hines, to her credit,
as you.

Speaker 8 (33:49):
Know, yeah, we could do a lot better with health stuff.
And there's a lot of stuff he can do, and
some of the things he's suggested take it out of
the hand of my doctor and me and my ovg
yn and me, And I wonder, does it give you pause?

Speaker 2 (34:09):
And are you able to say, you.

Speaker 8 (34:11):
Know, that might not actually be so because I've got
my experience and I've done lived with this and I'm
still here. So are you able to have those conversations
with her?

Speaker 1 (34:22):
I am able to have those conversations. And just to
be clear, of secretarias of HHS have not been doctors.

Speaker 2 (34:32):
They've got a sign be honest.

Speaker 1 (34:36):
One of Obama's secretaries of HHS was an economist.

Speaker 8 (34:43):
So most the majority of them that haven't had medical
backgrounds have a wait, science, don't.

Speaker 2 (34:47):
Do anything else. And now they go to break because
Cheryl Hines just put Whoopi Goldberg and Sunny hosted in
the trunk. Here are the facts. Oh no, no, no, no, no,
they have science backgrounds. No they don't, Javier, but Sarah
didn't have a science background.

Speaker 4 (35:03):
No they don't.

Speaker 2 (35:04):
Necessarily, it's a political position, so they're trying to push
a narrative against her husband as.

Speaker 4 (35:12):
Opposed to what does the data tell us.

Speaker 2 (35:16):
By the way, this conversation about Tylan Ollen and pregnancy
didn't come out of nowhere. It came out of other
studies that they're looking at differently and addressing differently. Was
it I think released in a clumsy way. One could
argue that, but there is a basis for all of this.

Speaker 4 (35:35):
So, I mean, she's Cheryl and I don't agree politically,
neither Robert M.

Speaker 2 (35:40):
Kenny Junior and I. But my gosh, she handled herself
well there. Hey, we know it's your husband, but let's
talk about what a moron he is and how wrong
he is on everything, because we're two women on TV
and we're experts. This isn't the first time Whoopie Goldberg's
been doing a fact check and then got her stuff
handed to her.

Speaker 4 (36:01):
And Sonny Houston, I haven't played a view clip in a.

Speaker 2 (36:05):
While, and there's a reason, and I probably won't for
a while either. Today on the Marketplace, Oh it's not
just a Stanley. Oh no no, it's not just something
to keep your hot drinks hot or your cold drinks cold.
No no, no, no, no, no, it's special.

Speaker 4 (36:24):
It's the alphabus Stanley.

Speaker 2 (36:28):
Hey, I don't I don't get it either. Tony Katz
ninety three WIBC. Good morning. Great to be with you.
During downtime, I'm clearing my head. I'm getting ready for
what's next on the show. I find myself on Facebook marketplace.
Cool stuff, ond stuff, weird stuff, strange stuff, all sorts
of stuff is on the marketplace. I've bought stuff, I've
sold stuff. I've done it all in the marketplace. Brought

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(37:14):
Indiana Unclaimed a doc CUV Matt Bear. Do you know
what the Stanley is?

Speaker 9 (37:19):
No, it's a steamer. Uh, it's a vacuum Stanley, right, steamer.

Speaker 2 (37:23):
That's see, that's pretty old school. Oh that's a pretty
awesome Stanley steamer, carpet cleaner. No, no, no, uh. The
kids today know that Stanley is a term used on
Urban Dictionary. Hold on that's not it.

Speaker 9 (37:37):
You mean like like that guy's a Stanley. That guy's
a Chad.

Speaker 2 (37:41):
Chad's a Chadly something completely.

Speaker 4 (37:44):
A Stanley. We're talking about the company.

Speaker 2 (37:46):
And uh they're there are coolers like there their their
their cups. They got the thermal cup like a yetti.
Oh like a like a yetti and and and they're
very they're very popular. Oh guy, you gotta get a Stanley.
Oh my gosh, you gotta have a Stanley. What a
you don't have a Stanley? Can't sit at our table
to lunch room if you don't have a Stanley.

Speaker 9 (38:03):
Not Bear, No, that's it. I always got kicked off
the lunch table.

Speaker 2 (38:06):
Guess right. It is the accessory of the cool and hip,
right it is.

Speaker 4 (38:12):
It is the mean girl's accessory of the day. And
so they're very very popular. This, I think takes it
to a new level.

Speaker 2 (38:22):
Matt Bear. The photos are up there on my Twitter
feed on x at Tony Katz. This is the Stanley
Alphaba twenty ounce. Now you know who alphab is.

Speaker 9 (38:31):
Alphaba is the.

Speaker 10 (38:33):
Yeah trying to wicked. Yes, she is the witch Frozen
Frozen's wicked.

Speaker 2 (38:40):
You gotta oh it was wicked okay from Wicked right
and becomes best friends with Glinda, and then the story
goes from there. It's the alphaba version because it's in green.
Oh wow, that brand new Stanley Alpha, but twenty ounce,
no dense or scratches as opposed to Matt Be himself.

(39:01):
Rim has a very tiny scuff exactly like Matt Bear himself.
I tried to get in the picture but couldn't. Oh no,
they meant the scuff. They weren't trying to get themselves
in the picture.

Speaker 4 (39:12):
They're trying to get the scuff in the photo.

Speaker 9 (39:15):
Okay, this is a really cool cup.

Speaker 4 (39:17):
I mean it's Is it a cool cup?

Speaker 2 (39:18):
Yeah?

Speaker 9 (39:18):
I think so.

Speaker 10 (39:19):
I'd never seen a Stanley before in my life. I know,
Yeti's are really expensive, so I had imagined this might
be like somewhere in the same ballpark. So if you
can get a deal in the marketplace, yeah, by your Stanley,
keep your drink as a drink.

Speaker 4 (39:33):
Would you pay seventy dollars?

Speaker 3 (39:37):
No?

Speaker 2 (39:39):
Well, no, it's a terrible price getting the Stanley Alphaba
the Stanley forty ounce stainless steel H two O flow
state quencher Tumblr.

Speaker 9 (39:52):
I don't even know what makes this a Wicked Cup.
Other than that it's green.

Speaker 10 (39:55):
I'm looking at the logo and it's it's a bear
with a halo where and angel wings?

Speaker 2 (40:01):
So well?

Speaker 4 (40:02):
And whenever I think of bears, I think of angel wings.

Speaker 2 (40:05):
And a halo.

Speaker 9 (40:05):
What do you think of you know America?

Speaker 2 (40:08):
Right?

Speaker 4 (40:10):
We need a picture of Matt bear with a halo
and angel wing.

Speaker 9 (40:13):
No, it's about time. Hey, I can do anything.

Speaker 10 (40:16):
I'm just looking at I don't see the value in
seventy five dollars unless I knew more about the Stanley Cup.
And I think i'd researched before I buy, but then buy.
Maybe that would be the logical progression there.

Speaker 2 (40:27):
Just so you know, A target sells the forty ounce
version for fifty five dollars.

Speaker 9 (40:33):
But that's not the special audition in alphabet Wicked Witch.

Speaker 2 (40:36):
Yeah, and they're sold out that you can't even get one.
This one's they say, is the twenty ounce version. They're
selling for seventy five dollars.

Speaker 9 (40:44):
How long have these been hot? I've never heard of
the Stanley Cup. Why haven't I heard of this?

Speaker 2 (40:49):
I don't know exactly how long have you been old?

Speaker 4 (40:52):
I don't know that's as long as they've been hot.

Speaker 9 (40:55):
That's relative.

Speaker 2 (40:55):
You know, it's been a couple of years.

Speaker 4 (40:57):
Sure could say tail end of COVID.

Speaker 9 (41:00):
I say, I'm still gonna going into it, you know,
I mean not quite there yet.

Speaker 2 (41:04):
Are you saying you're not a buyer at seventy five dollars.

Speaker 9 (41:06):
A cool cop?

Speaker 4 (41:07):
I just don't know.

Speaker 9 (41:08):
That's seventy five dollars.

Speaker 10 (41:10):
I don't have that casual at around, So no, I
don't want the cop I'd rather spend it on something else.

Speaker 2 (41:14):
It promises all day hydration.

Speaker 9 (41:16):
Well I can get that from a hose, you know.

Speaker 2 (41:19):
Well said, yeah, it's true. You you you, It is
there for you on the marketplace. Check it out for yourself.
We've got all the good stuff on the marketplace at
WIBC dot com. Tony Katz ninety three WIBC, Good morning.

Speaker 4 (41:49):
Now for those of you.

Speaker 2 (41:50):
Who know and I don't know, producer Kurt knows Tony
Kats ninety three, WIBC, Good morning, Good to be with you.
Don't let that music go anywhere, is alright? Producer Kurt
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(42:11):
my wedding song. Turn it up. Welcome, spend a month.
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Speaker 11 (42:29):
Since we've been again, I look good on my wedding day,
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hair down to my ways, Well.

Speaker 2 (42:40):
You didn't know about Tony back then, and to my
wife who might be listening to this. Good choice, very
good choice. There is a story I was sharing yesterday
on Tony Katz Today that requires us to revisit today,

(43:02):
and it is the data that shows that everything that
was ever discussed on this program by many others about
the trans world and social contagion was accurate. That the
abuse of children is unacceptable, That it is our job
to fight against these people who want to make claims

(43:25):
of gender affirming care and ensure that any hospital that
would want to engage a procedure of mutilating children is
no longer a hospital, and those doctors are no longer doctors.
Don't tell me about their MD and somehow I have
to listen to them. Hell no, they're monsters. The people

(43:45):
who want to abuse children, mutilate children are monsters, and
we as a society need to stop them. No society
that abuses children can thrive.

Speaker 4 (43:57):
It can't.

Speaker 2 (43:59):
And as we saw twenty twenty, twenty twenty one, twenty
twenty two, my gosh, look at everybody identifying as transit
trans that we understood.

Speaker 4 (44:09):
That this was social contagion. Kids were confused.

Speaker 2 (44:13):
Well, here's the answer. Kids wanted the attention everything so
many ways. This was ugly and deceitful and wrong, and
you had adults playing into this, and a political figures
playing into this, playing into mental illness, pure evil, awful
and sinful and terrible. I cannot think of enough words

(44:36):
I can utilize on radio to describe this.

Speaker 4 (44:39):
The data shows.

Speaker 2 (44:42):
That from a height to just before twenty twenty three,
of almost ten percent the sheriff students not identifying as
male or female, Oh I'm non binary, Oh I'm this,
Oh I'm that, I'm gender fluid all the rest, that
number has dipped to between two.

Speaker 4 (44:59):
And four percent, less than four percent.

Speaker 2 (45:02):
Why is that?

Speaker 4 (45:04):
I thought just this was the natural way it was.

Speaker 2 (45:07):
Why is that? It is because everyone is realized that
this is obscene. Everyone whose rationals realized that you don't
abuse children, And this is what it is.

Speaker 4 (45:19):
That gender affirming care was a lie.

Speaker 2 (45:22):
It's always been a lie into any group in Indianapolis
or in Indiana that's trying to make the claim that
they do this, you are abusing children. If you want
to fight me on this subject, I'm in you can't
hide behind the line gender firming care.

Speaker 4 (45:37):
Get bent.

Speaker 2 (45:40):
I'm stating for the record that the people who utilize
gender firming care are the people who are the ones
who seem to condone abuse of children. And the data
shows that everything is trending down, everywhere, every subject trending down.

(46:09):
This is very, very good news. If you take a
look at the proportion of non binary by cohort trending down.
How about the idea of anxiety or depression. In twenty
twenty three, almost forty percent of students saying they were
anxious and over fifteen percent of students saying the depressed

(46:32):
twenty twenty five, under thirty percent anxious, ten percent depressed,
numbers that I think are still too high, although I
don't know how they would rank up against the last
twenty years. Let's say I don't know how long the
state has been going on, but going in the right direction,
parents getting a hold of the situation, Parents pushing aside

(46:53):
these horrible people in education and other places.

Speaker 4 (46:56):
Those who are saying.

Speaker 2 (46:58):
Well, we'll just tell everybody a girl and it's fine.
Those who are saying it's okay that a man competes
on the women's swim team and the girls.

Speaker 4 (47:05):
Just have to take it. No, they don't.

Speaker 2 (47:08):
They don't have to just lay back and take it.
And I'm overjoyed that they haven't. This is a society
getting healthier, smarter, better, steering away from the nonsense.

Speaker 4 (47:23):
Excellent, excellent news.

Speaker 2 (47:26):
And parents, keep up the fight. Your kids are worth it.
The Indianapolis International Airport will not play the message. The

(47:52):
message that was recorded by the Secretary of Homeland Security
Christy know. The message says, hey, the long lines, but
Democrats shut down the government. The airport saying the Indianapolis
International Airport does not display content that is expressly political
or partisan. Okay, it's first of all, Tony Katz, that's

(48:19):
me ninety three WIBC. Good morning, Good to be with you,
Great to be here. We've got State Center Liz Brown
coming up, taking umbradge with a statement made by Attorney
General Todd Raketa on this show yesterday. We'll bring that
to you at eight fifteen. Be sure to tune in.
I This is interesting because first of all, there's a

(48:42):
bunch of airports that are.

Speaker 4 (48:43):
Refusing to air this message.

Speaker 2 (48:46):
The question before us is where do the rights exist.
I'm not particularly saying they're wrong. If there's a message
from the secretary saying that Democrats said the shut down,
what other messages could be given to the American people
in the future.

Speaker 4 (49:06):
At airports?

Speaker 2 (49:08):
And I would now need to go back and take
a look at messages. Maybe they played prior, videos, they
played prior that did have a political overtone to them,
and say well, what about this and what about that.
I mean, once you're saying no, you're opening yourself up
to what you have done in the past. And I
would argue that the airport must know that, the Indianapolis
Airport must know that the people in line waiting to

(49:35):
get through TSA hate Democrats and Republicans. They just want
to get to their destination and this doesn't help. So
this falls under my philosophy of we make it way
too difficult to fly because we already get people in
a state of absolute anxious frenzy. The way the airlines

(50:00):
treat people, the way TSA treats people, it creates insanity,
and people are already a little bit insane. So I
don't want the video because I think it heightens that
and that is going to have a direct impact on
my flying experience. And the only thing I want my
flying experience to involve is the takeoff and the landing.

(50:22):
Eat your peanuts, drink your soft drink and shut up.
Also wear a suit on a plane. You're a grown man.
I wear shorts and a tank top and foot flops
because I.

Speaker 4 (50:33):
Want to be comfortable. Oh shut up.

Speaker 2 (50:38):
I'm a fifty two year old woman, but I like
to wear spandex because you know comfort.

Speaker 4 (50:44):
No, No, same thing as true of the twenty two
year old woman. No, stop it.

Speaker 2 (50:50):
This isn't the gym tired of having to try and
save people's souls. I so I don't want the video played.
I don't want the video. I'm asking a different question.
Does the airport have the right to say no to
the to Homeland Security which runs a TSA? Is that allowed?

Speaker 4 (51:15):
And if so, well will they say no?

Speaker 2 (51:19):
And if it's a Democrat president Democrat administration, I'm curious.
State Center Liz Brown up next the Attorney General talking
about her and immigration issues. What does the senator have
to say that is coming up keep it here. Tony
Katz ninety three WIBC. Good Morning. Yesterday, I had the

(51:48):
Attorney General on the show, Todd raketa Attorney General in
the Enna, And in that conversation yesterday, as he was
discussing Tom Homan, the borders are coming to Indiana, he
was discussing this idea of the Fairness Act, how we
deal with immigration in the state of Indiana.

Speaker 6 (52:12):
And he said this, it requires ICE to or requires
these local law enforcement officials to honor ICE attainers instead
of just letting illegal aliens go.

Speaker 9 (52:22):
It acts it.

Speaker 6 (52:24):
Has state Social Services agency start collecting data on how
many illegal aliens they're giving our tax money to our
through welfare benefits.

Speaker 2 (52:35):
You know.

Speaker 6 (52:35):
So it does a lot of good stuff got out
of the house real well, and it was stopped by liberal,
a liberal senator who calls herself for a publican. Her
names Liz Brown. She's from Fort Wayne. She just didn't
want to hear it for personal reasons.

Speaker 3 (52:48):
You know.

Speaker 6 (52:48):
She told me that she had, you know, some kind
of illegal alien relationship in the family or something like that.

Speaker 9 (52:55):
She's backed off that now, but you know.

Speaker 6 (52:57):
She didn't want to hear it. So it just died
in the Senate, and that's ridiculous. We have to put
hoosiers above these illegal aliens, and we have problems with
people like Liz Brown and the Republican Party who don't
want to do anything from there.

Speaker 2 (53:13):
Senator Brown staff reached out and said we'd like to respond.
State Centater Liz Brown joins me right now from a
district to fifteen. I appreciate your staff reaching out. This
isn't the first time you have had issue with how
the Attorney General characterizes this. We go back to an
April thirtieth interview you did with fellow radio host Casey

(53:34):
Hendrickson out of woo and MNC and Fort Wayne and
South Bend, respectively. You have filed disciplinary actions against Attorney
General Rokeita talk to me about where his allegation comes
from regarding a legal immigration and your own personal situation.

Speaker 12 (53:55):
Yeah, thanks Tony for having me on. I appreciate it
this morning, and I don't quite understand it. It's pretty
hard to defeat a lie when people kept well not
people are Attorney General, the highest elected law enforcement officer
in the state, continues to lie about my family. I
don't know how many times I can say I do

(54:15):
not have an illegal alien in my family or a
relationship with a family member who is an illegal alien.

Speaker 2 (54:22):
Full stop.

Speaker 12 (54:23):
So I can't tell you, as a mother how disturbing
it is to hear someone continue to lie about my family.
So I appreciate this opportunity.

Speaker 2 (54:32):
I'll have loa abalue where this comes from. I have
heard this before. I don't think I've brought up much
of an on the air. Where does this allegation come from?
And what is the denunciation of it outside of their
lying about me?

Speaker 12 (54:47):
Well, they I mean, it's the Attorney General. Let's just
be clear. The Attorney General is lying repeatedly. He's already
been disciplined by the Disciplinary Commission for breaking rules of
professional conduct. So I met, not with him, with his
staff probably almost a year ago about this bill. And

(55:08):
there were significant issues that I had with the bill,
concerns and one of them was then reiterated to me
or several, i should say, as the bill was moving
in the House with law enforcement and the business community.
And when I shared this with his staff, not with him.
Never talked to him about this bill until the end

(55:29):
of session, and when I shared it with them, they said,
essentially thank you very much, and never hood back from them.
So don't know if they made any adjustments, but it
was clear when it was introduced they didn't. So this
is about This is about centralizing an incredible amount of
power in one person's office, and that person may be

(55:52):
a Republican this morning, but they're not. That office may
not always stay that way. And I think many of
my colleagues have concerns for business. If they quote, can
be accused of recruiting an illegal alien and they don't
have to do it knowingly, it could be no men's
rayo that was taken out the knowledge of doing that act.

(56:14):
They could lose their business. And you could put up
my example is put a help wanted sign up in
your store and ten people come, and maybe one of
them is an illegal alien.

Speaker 2 (56:26):
You recruited them.

Speaker 12 (56:27):
That's a problem. That's how the bill was introduced. And
then with respect of law enforcement, again the same issue.
They have the Sheriff's Association in particular because again it
really falls on their shoulders because they're the ones who
are in charge of the jails.

Speaker 2 (56:45):
So let me not take a moment and make sure
I'm following talking to State Center Liz Brown, Sure, here
in Indiana District fifteen. It is House Built fifteen thirty
one that you voted against. It's House Built thirteen ninety
three that you voted in favor of. So, if I
am to understand your position, you do not favor any
level of sanctuary city, any sanctuary status in the state

(57:09):
of Indiana. You do not favor any sanctuary type policy
in the state of Indiana. You just don't want anybody
who hires somebody who is here illegally by mistake to
deal with the consequences of doing so. If I am
understanding right, I would it would lead them to a
conversation about doesn't everify solve that problem. But go back

(57:31):
to the first Am I correct in my assessment that
you don't favor sanctuary policies. You don't favor any sanctuary
policy for any city in the state of Indiana, and
you don't want people who hire somebody illegally to face
serious consequences.

Speaker 12 (57:47):
No, I said that I don't want them to face.
I don't I don't want illegal aliens in this country.
I want people to come into this country legally and
follow the rules, just like all of us do. And
but that bill wasn't going to solve that problem, right,
So I am absolutely one hundred percent behind any law
enforcement association or city that thinks they don't also have

(58:09):
to follow the rules of our state of federal government.
And that's an oath I took when I took this
office that I will follow the constitution not only of
the State of Indiana, but of the United States one
hundred percent. But getting back to this, this created extra
burns for the businesses and they didn't understand how this

(58:29):
was going to work for them. They are all We
didn't have examples of businesses not following the law. It
was help us follow the law. And then with law enforcement,
which was the biggest piece to this bill, This was
about them understanding and honoring detainer warrants. There hasn't been
a sheriff who's come to me says we are not
happy to work with ICE or any other law enforcement agency.

(58:53):
The problem is that a detainer warrant, which is what
ICE issues, is not an arrest warrant. So there have
to be certain procedures and processes followed so that the
sheriffs are not held liable and the sheriffs are not
held in violation of someone's due process if they pick
up the wrong person. So they've asked for training, They've

(59:14):
asked for training. Attorney General had promised training or offered
I should say, I don't know if you promised, and
they never got it. And that's really important. They want
to do the right thing. They have been very forthcoming
with me about this. They want to do the right thing.
They want to make sure they better get the bad
guys off the street, and they want to assist other
law enforcement and agencies, including ICE. But they have to

(59:37):
understand and have the right forms and processes in place.
And that's where the problem is. It's not just grabbing someone.

Speaker 1 (59:45):
And to the.

Speaker 2 (59:48):
I'll call it cause I accusation being made that you're
harboring somebody in the country illegally in your own family.

Speaker 4 (59:54):
You're saying flat.

Speaker 12 (59:55):
Out not true, absolutely not true. Never said that.

Speaker 2 (59:59):
Why would I say that?

Speaker 12 (01:00:00):
I mean, it's no, you know, like.

Speaker 2 (01:00:04):
I know, why would I say?

Speaker 12 (01:00:06):
Why would I lie about one of my children?

Speaker 2 (01:00:10):
Is that's how this started?

Speaker 12 (01:00:12):
Well, why would I lie about someone in my family?
I'm an American citizen. I've literally had to say that
to people. No, I'm an American citizen. My husband's American citizen,
are children are American citizens? I mean full stop.

Speaker 2 (01:00:26):
So one of the things that is happening is that
people are trying to primary you. You have got people
announcing that they're running for office. Conversation, there's this conversation
which you are elucidating here.

Speaker 4 (01:00:40):
There has been.

Speaker 2 (01:00:41):
Your opposition to constitutional Carrie in the state of Indiana.
There's been a question asked about what could be described
Senator Brown as your conservative bona fides. How do you
respond to those people?

Speaker 12 (01:00:56):
Well, I'm going to just say you have to look
at my history of how strong I've been on the
pro life issues, which just came from the largest pro
life dinner last night in the country up here in
northeast Indiana. That's number one for me. That's always number one.
And when you look at the issues, whether we're talking
about this issue, I am trying to get a bill

(01:01:18):
passed that will pass muster and also will fix the problem.

Speaker 2 (01:01:24):
And so I didn't have with.

Speaker 12 (01:01:26):
Respect to fifteen thirty one, and yes, I voted for
thirteen ninety three, which make sure if you pick them up.
If an illegal alien is arrested on criminal charges and
you find out they're an illegal alien, you must immediate
notified ice that went through, no problem. I voted to
ban sanctuary cities and support if they're trying to avoid

(01:01:48):
the law, any law enforcement in those cities, etc. But
people can say things about you, Tony, people can say things.
You don't believe this, But I'll stand by my record.

Speaker 2 (01:01:59):
I stand by the.

Speaker 12 (01:02:00):
Citizens of Northeast Indiana and the District fifteen. I listened
to my constituents, and my job as a state Senator
is to look at these laws and ses art. Can
they be implemented, will they help the state of Indiana,
and what's the problem their kind effects? Do you that
with every single bill? And I talked to my committee.

(01:02:20):
I might add as a judiciar chairer to my committee
about these bills. These decisions are never made in a vacuum.

Speaker 2 (01:02:27):
Do you regret not holding a hearing on House Bill
fifteen thirty one.

Speaker 12 (01:02:35):
No, there were too many problems with the bill. There
were too many issues with the bill, and I, as
I said, Tony, I shared that when the Attorney General's
Office staff came to me last December and they acknowledged that,
they acknowledged what I was saying to them, and they
didn't change They may have made some amendments in the House,

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but the concerns that the business community and how to
implement it, the concerns from law enforcement for them and
how to implement it didn't change because they came to me.
They came to me, and I know law enforcement shared
the concerns with the Attorney General's office. And I might

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add another part of the bill, which we haven't really
talked about, is that the Attorney General's Office is consolidating
in this bill more power to investigate what would be
an executive branch function to investigate the agencies that the
executive branch runs, and I think that's something the governor

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is more than capable of doing and would be.

Speaker 2 (01:03:41):
So the no was the you're introducing something new. Was
the objection to what law enforcement could or couldn't do
or those tassels put upon them, or was the issue
that Todd Raketa would have too much power?

Speaker 12 (01:03:53):
No, no, no, I'm not introducing I'm it's a big bill, Tony.
I mean, there's only been a few issues that have
been talked about public. I'm just saying there was a lot,
and my committee was aware this.

Speaker 2 (01:04:04):
Is a lot. This is a lot to fix State
Center quote all that you finish up, please go ahead.

Speaker 12 (01:04:12):
Oh no, it was going to take a lot of work.
But I think the biggest thing is is it has
been continually suggested that law enforcement isn't doing their job.
And I will stand behind them every single day and
come to me and say they can't fix this isn't
going to work, Then I'm going to believe them every day.

Speaker 2 (01:04:30):
State Center, Liz Brown, District fifteen. I appreciate your staff
reaching out. I appreciate you calling in and being with
us at Center Brown. Thank you. Time to fill up
on the news Tony Katz ninety three WIBC, Good morning,
Good to be with you. Fill up on the news.
We do it every day around this time.

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Speaker 2 (01:05:10):
That features up two thirty nine. Big jump yesterday as
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cents on the West Texas crude still under sixty ren
crude sixty two dollars seventy one cents, the ten year
treasury at four point zero one nine.

Speaker 4 (01:05:33):
Gold prices.

Speaker 2 (01:05:36):
Forty one hundred and eighty six dollars an ounce the
high yesterday I think it was yesterday. Know is that today?
Is that today is high? Forty two nineteen four nineteen dollars,
Silver is at fifty two dollars and seventy cents, hit
a high at fifty three dollars and thirteen cents. I

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don't know. I don't know, And I to assume with
this kind of madness in the gold and silver market,
in the metals market, there are people saying, yeah, we're
not buying. They don't know what's gonna happen. So now,
if you've got gold or silver, what's the what do
you do? You can't force someone to buy the stuff.
They're buying a premium, they're buying it a discount. Huh.

Speaker 4 (01:06:24):
I still tell you.

Speaker 2 (01:06:25):
You know, we had a doctor Matt Will on the
show on Tony Kats Today yesterday and he was not,
you know, abandoned ship on any level. We discussed AI
stocks and a whole series of things. But people go
into gold and silver because it's a hedge, right, there's

(01:06:46):
a concern. And I keep seeing the money go into
the AI stocks and I keep seeing the market grow.
But I am convinced that this does not make sense.
I'm convinced that this is not right. I've got two
stories for you. Bank of America topped expectations on a

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forty three percent surgeon investment banking revenue.

Speaker 4 (01:07:11):
This is the headline from CNBC.

Speaker 2 (01:07:18):
They're saying that revenue increase ten point eight percent, profit
up twenty three percent, so you know they're overjoyed.

Speaker 4 (01:07:25):
Morgan Stanley.

Speaker 2 (01:07:29):
Posting third quarter earnings the topped expectations by the largest
margin in nearly five years. I I swear to you,
I don't know what to make of it all because
if you ask Midwest main Street, things are not great.

(01:07:56):
They're not great. And then I look at the investment
in gold and the numbers, and I'm like, Okay, I'm
clearly correct, Except what if I'm not. What if there's
actually no correlation between the two things.

Speaker 4 (01:08:15):
I have a harder time with that.

Speaker 2 (01:08:17):
Let me know what you think on the Twitter exit
Tony kats in the chatroom, YouTube dot Com, slash w
IBC and everybody in there. They were talking about the
days earlier. But you know, people in the chatroom have problems.

Speaker 4 (01:08:33):
Yeah, but we love them.

Speaker 2 (01:08:37):
We keep them in the chatroom so we can keep
an eye on them. Okay, I'm I would assume this

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is a kid show or weird superhero show sometimes.

Speaker 9 (01:09:12):
Is that how you feel about me?

Speaker 2 (01:09:14):
Yes, it's producer Kurk. That's how I feel about you,
Tony Katz ninety three WIBC. Good morning, good to be
with you. It's time to play America's favorite game. What
the heck is that television theme song? Here's how we
play our game. Producer Kurt, filling in for producer Kylon
filling in for producer Carl, who's on assignment, picks a
television theme song from yesteryear. I have to guess what

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that theme song is. The chat room is allowed to assist,
and they have. I will get to that in a moment.
You have to be in the chatroom YouTube dot com
slash WIBC. But first let me check in with Matt Bear.
I phone a friend, Matt Bear. What is that television theme.

Speaker 9 (01:09:52):
Song that's Land of the Loss?

Speaker 2 (01:09:53):
Tony Nice, I don't think it is. Is it that producer,
I don't think so a slee stack.

Speaker 4 (01:10:01):
Why don't you start from the beginning.

Speaker 2 (01:10:02):
Why don't you play that from the beginning, right, So
it's got the whole mystery vibe, and then it gets
into that.

Speaker 4 (01:10:17):
And that's why I said kids show.

Speaker 2 (01:10:19):
Well, I'm getting text messages from everybody's favorite blacksmith, Jonathan Nagel.
Nagel house Forge, he's won fortune fire, the guy's legit.
He built my battle axe. And of course the chat
room has decided that the answer is goosebumps. Yeah. So
when I said it sounds like a kid's show, yeah,

(01:10:42):
I was right on at their producer current. That's right,
it's accurate. That is that is true. That is straight
up facto.

Speaker 4 (01:10:50):
Good choice, by the way, good choice. I would not
have gotten that on my own.

Speaker 9 (01:10:53):
It's hard.

Speaker 2 (01:10:54):
Ever.

Speaker 9 (01:10:54):
I look through the list and I'm like, what do
I choose?

Speaker 4 (01:10:57):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:10:58):
Yeah, you realize the work that producer Carl does and
that when he's not here, everything goes to crap.

Speaker 9 (01:11:04):
That's the reason I'm the backup to the backup.

Speaker 2 (01:11:06):
By the way, do you think he's coming back. He's
on assignment. That's all we're allowed to say. Yeah, he's
on assign Do you think he's coming back or do
you think his assignment was to find a better job. Yes, yeah,
it's very possible.

Speaker 4 (01:11:20):
It's very possible. And who can blame him on.

Speaker 2 (01:11:23):
Tony Katz Today at noon, we still have a shutdown.
It's still going on, and it isn't going to stop.

Speaker 4 (01:11:33):
Any time soon.

Speaker 2 (01:11:36):
So we all understand each other. Democrats have made it
clear they want this, they like this, and they're going
to scream and yell and blame it on Republicans all
they can. But Republicans are clear they're not doing it.

(01:11:57):
They're not going to solve the Democrats problem for them.
They have to vote for the continuing Resolution, get the
government back open, and then they can work on the
other subjects, the subject of course being Obamacare subsidies and
extending them.

Speaker 4 (01:12:12):
That's the subject.

Speaker 2 (01:12:15):
They want to extend, the Obamacare subsidies to the Democrats
that they voted for in the Inflation Reduction Act, which
sunset at the end of twenty twenty five.

Speaker 12 (01:12:25):
Me.

Speaker 2 (01:12:25):
I don't want to extend them. I believe President Trump will.
The problem for the Democrats is it won't be on
their terms. It'll be on President Trump's terms, which means
he'll get the political victory, and the Democrats don't want
that and they don't want to be seen at any
level of agreement with Donald Trump. So they do this,
they do this, and when they're not doing this, they

(01:12:49):
are basically charging Speaker Johnson's office. This is about miss Grahalva,
who is the congresswoman elect from Arizona taking over the

(01:13:13):
seat from her grandfather. I believe it is Raoul Grijalva,
and she has not yet been sworn in. And what
Speaker Johnson is saying, I'm not about to bring the
house back in while you guys have in the Senate
have not voted for the continuing Resolution. It's just not happening.

Speaker 4 (01:13:31):
So she hasn't been seated.

Speaker 2 (01:13:33):
Some argue she isn't being seated because she's going to
be a vote in favor of releasing the Epstein files.
Well for that alone, I've seed her.

Speaker 4 (01:13:43):
I want the Epstein files.

Speaker 2 (01:13:45):
And the Democrats are screaming at Capitol Police. Remember when
they liked the Capitol police. Oh those are good times
that never really happened. And they're screaming at Capitol Police
and they're engaged in the stunt. Everything is a stunt.
They know where to Speaker's office is why didn't they
knock on his door one at a time and say, hey,

(01:14:07):
how do we get this continuing resolution handled? But I mean,
this is the House and really this is a Senate issue.
Can we get us see our going here? The answer
is sure, vote for it. Republicans, I don't. Their history
is they'll move, they'll capitulate.

Speaker 4 (01:14:25):
Right, we know this, but I haven't seen it.

Speaker 2 (01:14:28):
And I had had this conversation with Noah Rothman, and
it turns out we were saying the same thing in
different ways. He had written a piece at National Review
about how Republicans are getting wobbly. I'm like, where in
the world are you seeing they're getting wobbly? And his
argument is, if you say you're going to start cutting
from the federal government, start cutting. If you're gonna do this,

(01:14:50):
start doing this, don't just say it, do it. And
so it was an argument about fulfilling and following through
and what is you're gonna say? My argument, well, I
don't see Democrats winning this thing at all. And we
were agreeing through these different kinds of statements. But his
point is well taken. Now we're starting to see the
government cuts, and yes, Democrats are getting angry and angrier

(01:15:12):
about it. That's okay, that's okay. We forget that we are.

Speaker 4 (01:15:18):
In playing a game of politics here. Now, real lives
are affected.

Speaker 2 (01:15:23):
Today's October fifteenth military won't get paid today. Now you've
got Trump and the Pentagon moving dollars around to ensure
they get paid. On October twentieth, Staffers won't get paid.
Now you ask me why is the members of Congress
get paid. Actually a different piece of legislation that requires
them to get paid. They can decide to spend their pay,

(01:15:43):
they can donate their pay, they can do a lot
of things, but they still get paid.

Speaker 4 (01:15:49):
And that's why that happens.

Speaker 2 (01:15:50):
It's actually a different law in effect there. But if
staffers don't get paid, that's all right, that's all right.
You know, this past week, last week into this week
over there at iHeart, some fifty plus people lost their
jobs on air, behind the scenes, promotions, production. You know

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who cried for them? No one, good people doing their work.
But the industry is what the industry is. You want
me to cry for the Senate staffer.

Speaker 4 (01:16:24):
I know some Senate staffers.

Speaker 2 (01:16:26):
I'm not doing that.