Tony Katz and the Morning News Full Show 10-28-25

Mike Braun has called the Special Session to start redistricting. The country’s LARGEST federal workers’ union just demanded Chuck Schumer and Democrats REOPEN the government. A mass shakeup of ICE leadership is underway amid growing friction inside DHS over deportation tactics and priorities. Amazon layoffs. Bari Weiss looks to poach pro-Trump CNN pundit Scott Jennings for CBS News. Riley Gaines FIRES BACK at AOC and challenges her to a DEBATE. CAT 5 Hurricane bearing down on Jamaica. Indiana trans student planned shooting. Governor Mike Braun has called the Special Session to start redistricting. McDonalds Hawaiian Glasses for sale. Don't be a creepy clown this Halloween. Tara Hastings gives out small size candy for Halloween. How does redistricting affect the Indiana business community? Senate Chaplain scolds congress for its shutdown. All Communists lie. All of them. All the time.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
High a fifty seven.

Speaker 2 (00:04):
That's Marcus, what did you just say about Halloween? A
high fifty seven?

Speaker 1 (00:08):
Fifty seven, fifty seven and dry?

Speaker 2 (00:11):
Yeah, but no one cares what Halloween is like during
the day. I mean, that's that's meaningless.

Speaker 1 (00:17):
That's true. Trigger treat temperatures probably in like the fifty
to fifty four degree range, let's say so. And again
not too windy and no precepts, so we should be.

Speaker 3 (00:31):
Good first of all, not snowing good.

Speaker 1 (00:36):
That's that's right, right, that is right.

Speaker 2 (00:39):
But I'm just saying, if I have to wear a
coat over my costume, I'm telling you right now, I'm
gonna be really unhappy and I might throw a fit.

Speaker 1 (00:50):
What kind of costume are you wearing here?

Speaker 2 (00:52):
I'm going as Phil Sanchez.

Speaker 1 (00:58):
Oh okay, so you're putting on your wife's jeans and
right now I.

Speaker 2 (01:02):
Wandered three hundred and forty two pounds of eyebrows from Malaysia.

Speaker 1 (01:07):
We'll have to keep you warm enough.

Speaker 2 (01:08):
You'll be right. By the way. Are you a Halloween guy,
You're a Halloween fan, Halloween a friend. But how do
you feel about creepy clowns? How do you feel about
the creepy clown Marcus Bailey.

Speaker 1 (01:21):
I mean, they're whatever. I'm not. I'm not like freaked
out by clowns in general like some people are. But
I'm not like a you know, guy ar fan. I
could take it or leave it whatever.

Speaker 2 (01:33):
But you are you are. You're not a fan of
the people who like dress up like a creepy clown
and try and really scare people and follow them in
like parking garages and stuff like that.

Speaker 3 (01:42):
And that's kind of weird.

Speaker 2 (01:45):
Yeah, I know, but it happens. It happens. So we hear,
we hear Tony Kats in the Morning News. We're trying
to help people not dress up like a creepy clown
because you know, bad things can happen. So we've got
a series of PSAs to help with this, and here
here's one of them.

Speaker 3 (02:00):
As we get ready for Halloween.

Speaker 4 (02:02):
This week and now a public service announcement for anyone
who's thinking of dressing like a creepy clown this Halloween.

Speaker 2 (02:08):
I'll regart your on your brain.

Speaker 4 (02:11):
This has been a public service announcement for anyone thinking
of dressing like a creepy clown this Halloween.

Speaker 3 (02:18):
So yeah, we're just trying to help that listen.

Speaker 1 (02:22):
This is why you guys are number one all the time. Yeah,
you're because listen, the people listen to you the whole day.

Speaker 5 (02:32):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (02:32):
It has nothing to do with world class political takes
and NonStop comedy. It all has to do with the
PSA we made seven years ago.

Speaker 1 (02:40):
That's right.

Speaker 2 (02:41):
Yeah, So I thought Marcus Bailey, Wish TV meteorologist, he's
a good man.

Speaker 3 (02:51):
He's a good man that Marcus Bailey, Bless his soul.

Speaker 2 (02:54):
Appreciate you, Marcus forty eight degrees in the American Standard
Heating Weather Center the time six on nine. So we've

(03:24):
got a special session and I understand some people are
upset about this. Those people are wrong. Let's go vote
on this thing. Tony Katz ninety three WIBC, Good morning,

(03:44):
Good to be with you. This is not the confirmation
that we are going to have new congressional district. This
is nothing more than the vote to figure that out.

(04:07):
Do I think we're gonna get there?

Speaker 6 (04:08):
Yes?

Speaker 3 (04:08):
I do.

Speaker 7 (04:09):
Do.

Speaker 2 (04:10):
I think every single conversation of we don't have the
votes was myth.

Speaker 3 (04:16):
Absolutely positively, I do.

Speaker 2 (04:22):
Every single person that was screaming this kind of stuff,
you don't have a boo you don't have a vote,
was putting pressure on those who weren't sure where they
were on redissecting to vote for it.

Speaker 3 (04:40):
It was the weirdest thing I ever saw. We called
it right from the beginning.

Speaker 2 (04:45):
But people who are desperate to scream things into the
social media ether, scream things into the social media ether.

Speaker 3 (04:52):
They don't care if they're right. They're just angry, and
you know.

Speaker 2 (04:56):
It's argol bargo. Look how mad I am. We should
do this. I favor it in every way, and I've
said so very clearly. Maybe it won't happen. Maybe it'll
be the redistrict one and not another. Maybe it'll do both.
Maybe the vote will come and they'll still say in

(05:19):
Democrat hands. I don't know what the result is going
to be. I'm talking about the effort. And there have
been people who have made the argument, we do this,
we don't do property taxes. That's the wrong argument. I
will break that down. People saying this is beneath us.
We need to be above this. Those people are wrong,
whether they're elected officials or not, friends or not wrong.

(05:42):
The argument in front of us is what is it
that America has already experienced? What is it now? Experiencing
and what processes exist to us, the people, through our representatives,
that give us opportunity in this process exists. And the
screaming and the yelling from the Indiana Democratic Party is
nothing more than that, and silly people on social media

(06:05):
is nothing more than that, and even Republicans is nothing
more than an unwillingness to fight in the way you
claim we should fight. Now, it's time to get in
some people's faces. Oh and don't worry after this, there's
a third step. You have to think about the very
long game. I have got the story my interview with

(06:28):
Governor Mike Brawn. I will share with you in the
popcorn moment. Keep it here, Tony Katz, that's me, by
the way. I hope you doing well.

Speaker 3 (06:37):
Ninety three WIBC, Good morning.

Speaker 2 (06:41):
The unions have had enough of the Democratic Party and
the shutdown. Please but it's it's them saying go yell
at the unions. This I can't wait to see. Tony Katz,
ninety three WIBC, Good morning. Good to be with you.

Speaker 3 (06:58):
It is the it's it's.

Speaker 2 (07:00):
Not one of the unions as familiar with. This is
the American Federation of Government Employees. They're the ones who
have come out to say, could you just end this
already quote reopen the government immediately under a clear, considering
resolution that allows continued debate on larger issues.

Speaker 3 (07:20):
We'd like for our people to get paid.

Speaker 2 (07:22):
Eight hundred thousand workers, by the way, eight hundred thousand.

Speaker 3 (07:29):
That's a lot of people. That's a lot of people.

Speaker 2 (07:37):
We should be clear that the Democrats have lost this fight.
Doesn't mean that they'll stop fighting. But in the perception game,
as we've said, it continues to be over and these
things continue to look bad for them. They had a
bill Senator Ron Johnson. I believe Senator Todd Young to

(07:59):
pay the troops and certain federal workers, and some Democrats
are like, Nope, at this stage of the game, there's there,
there is nothing left, right, What does it matter if
the fall is going to kill you, When the fall

(08:21):
is all you have left, it matters greatly. I heard
that as a paraphrase for the first time on the
TV show The West Wing. But I know that it
has a basis. I'm just not one hundred cent sure
of it, of all of it, but I always thought
it was an interesting idea. When the fall is all
you have left, how.

Speaker 3 (08:42):
You fall matters.

Speaker 2 (08:44):
Interesting idea is that what we're seeing for the Democratic Party,
they've got nothing. They've got absolutely nothing. So they have
this and only this. That's that is a bad place
to be and they are proving it every single day.

(09:07):
Then there is this story about ICE Immigrations and Customs
Enforcement that there's a shake up. Fox News had of
this story and the overhaul effects ICE field offices in
eight cities is going to replace senior leaders with border
patrol officials, creating a power shift inside Homeland Security. So

(09:34):
this seems to be a fight between Homan, Tom Homan,
the borders are and the Director of Immigrations and Costumes Enforcement,
Todd Lyons and Christy nom and her senior advisor who
I did not know was her senior advisor, although I
must have known this somehow, Corey Lewandowski, Trump's first campaign manager.

(09:55):
I remember Corey from the Americans for Prosperities Day.

Speaker 3 (10:00):
Verty days.

Speaker 2 (10:00):
That's it. It's being referred to as tense and combative,
and this is about whether the approach is more targeted
on deportation or whether it's more broad.

Speaker 3 (10:22):
Now I'm curious as to what is what is real here?
Like where the.

Speaker 2 (10:30):
Real fight is if there is one, Because if the
conversation is we're moving too fast and another side is
saying you're not moving fast enough. Interesting, if we're saying no, no,
we're only supposed to deport these people, I would argue,
if you're here illegally, you're here illegally, what is it
that we're actually trying to get done? So this is

(10:51):
more than just the rumblings of a fight between two people.
This is about a conversational strategy. And wouldn't the strategy
be dependent solely on what does the president want? So
how could they have two strategies within the organization.

Speaker 3 (11:14):
And how could it not be more broad based.

Speaker 2 (11:21):
Now, if you're looking for deportation numbers to be larger
every month so you can say, look at what we've done,
that should not be the goal. The goal should be effectiveness.
And if effectiveness is a smaller number, but you have
the people who can handle it properly so it ensures
their safety, and then you keep at it, therefore increasing

(11:45):
hopefully the number of self deportations, because who wants to
go through the other hassle?

Speaker 3 (11:50):
Good, That's fine by me.

Speaker 2 (11:54):
So this is one of those conversations where I don't
know if the press has it perfectly right. I don't
think they're completely off base, but we should ask ourselves
that question.

Speaker 3 (12:04):
What is it that we're looking for? I voted for this.

Speaker 2 (12:06):
I voted for deportation of everybody who is here illegally,
get them gone goodbye. A lot of people who voted
for Trump would be like, yep, that's exactly what I
voted for. But is there a system, a methodology that
is better than another one? Scatter shot or focus? Scattershot

(12:27):
might get you more people, but it might create more strain.

Speaker 3 (12:30):
Is that necessary?

Speaker 2 (12:33):
So? I want to make sure I understand where the
real argument is. But you might hear rumblings about this.
In either case, no one is arguing for not deporting
people here illegally, so at least our argument is.

Speaker 3 (12:51):
On a better side.

Speaker 2 (12:53):
For sure. An Amazon, I cannot wait to see how
this affects the stock price and full disclosure. I only
own Amazon. I believe in a fund. I do not
own it. I have never purchased the stock. If anybody
who manages dollars for me has purchased the stock, that

(13:14):
would be different. I believe it's in a fund. Amazon
I like full disclosure in everything. Amazon laying off up
to thirty thousand corporate workers, ten percent of the white
collar workforce. This is the Wall Street Journal yesterday. They're
not all going to happen this week. It's going to
be ten percent, and they're going to start going out

(13:37):
today human resources, cloud computing, advertising, a bunch of other
business units.

Speaker 3 (13:44):
But now everything's fine.

Speaker 2 (13:47):
If you told me that Amazon was doing some cutting
at the top because it got a little too bloated, Okay,
thirty thousand, that would seem to me like a lot
of bloat and a lot of We could do this
with AI. That's what it looks like. We could do

(14:08):
this with AI. Twenty two they eliminated twenty seven thousand jobs,
and they did that in a series of cuts. So
look for that and we'll look for its effect on
the market. The Barry Weis story is growing, and the
Barry Weiss story is the story of this reporter at

(14:29):
the New York Times. And this reporter at the New
York Times realized that the New York Times is just
terrible because they don't engage reporting.

Speaker 3 (14:43):
What they engage in is ideological.

Speaker 2 (14:46):
Trafficking, which I don't know if anybody's ever referred to
it as ideological tracking trafficking ans I just did. But
I think that's now how I will approach the subject
is actually what they do. They don't actually care who
gets harmed. They don't care if the truth gets mangled abused.

(15:12):
As long as they can profit. It's ideological trafficking. She
noted this and left and started the Free Press, and
through journalism built up following of people interested in actual news,
actual stories, details, etc.

Speaker 3 (15:33):
Not about party, but about hey, here's what's going on.
Use this information as you will.

Speaker 2 (15:40):
The success was so great that CBS Paramount which Skydance
bought it one hundred and fifty million dollars I believe
was a number, and put Barry Wise in charge of
CBS News, which has all the news people feel the
air quotes the ideological traffickers much better. Nervous On Dickerson

(16:00):
has announced he won't be back at the end of
the year.

Speaker 3 (16:02):
He's leaving.

Speaker 2 (16:04):
Barry Weis is now looking at Brett bar and it's
Scott Jennings to come over to the network. It's going
to take a lot to get Brett Baer.

Speaker 8 (16:16):
To leave.

Speaker 2 (16:19):
Fox. I have to assume that for the anchor chair,
the being on broadcast has got to have a serious
appeal to it. I have to assume that what he
has been able to build at Fox and can have

(16:39):
for the next decade is not something you walk away
from lightly. That said, a lot of people upset with
CBS and Barry Weiss, including how there's gonna be an
overhaul of sixty minutes.

Speaker 3 (16:52):
Look what she's doing.

Speaker 2 (16:53):
My gosh, you mean actual news, actual reporting, not ideological
clap trap, not ideological trafficking.

Speaker 3 (17:03):
That's correct, that's the win.

Speaker 2 (17:06):
Barry Weiss is not a conservative, and I do not
think she's going to become one overnight, nor do I
know I think she'll ever actually become one. And that's fine.
I've never met Barry Weise. Good on her, I never
wanted to run a news room and never dawned to
me is something like, hey, you should go try that. No, thanks,
that does not seem to be where my baliwick is.

(17:31):
But that the left is infuriated by this. They're infuriated
that they don't control the sandboxes, that they don't get
to ideologically traffic anymore. This is why they hate Twitter
so much, and the angrier they are about news actually
being about news information being about information and an actual

(17:51):
free flow of ideas. The better off America is good on,
Barry Weiss, Scott Jennings. You might be able to get
Prettbaar would be interesting. Oh there's also a conversation whether
you should and I have nothing against Brettbaar. That's a
conversation for another day. Tony Kats ninety three WIBC, Good morning.

(18:13):
So if I have it right, Riley Gaines, the swimmer
who was forced to compete against Leah Thomas, who's a man,
always been a man, will always be a man, who
now is a podcaster over at Alkick and has started
a family, said that she wanted to challenge Representative Acossio

(18:37):
Cortes to a debate. Right, that's how this starts. Tony
Katz ninety three WIBC, Good morning.

Speaker 3 (18:44):
What is going on?

Speaker 2 (18:45):
Good to be with you. You know we're live treatment
over at the YouTube's YouTube dot com slash WIBC. You
should check it out for yourself. It's a fantastic time.
Nobody is wearing pants in there, no one zero pants.
Ladies and gentlemen, gotta you gotta love that. This is

(19:12):
on lor Ingram Show on Fox. And this is Riley Gaines.
Here's what I will say.

Speaker 7 (19:19):
I want to honestly challenge AOC to a debate. She
can defend socialism, I will defend capitalism. She can defend
removing God. I will defend embracing a biblical worldview. She
can defend child sacrifice. I will defend the sanctity of life.
Any of the radical and sane democratic policies and platform
that they stand for. I will debate the opposite. I'm

(19:40):
challenging AOC to it here.

Speaker 2 (19:42):
Now, sure, go ahead, Many many people have right. There's
a couple of things that play here. First, I've known
this with Riley Gaines, interviewed her a few years back.
She has created something very great and she took on
a very important fight.

Speaker 3 (20:01):
Men are not women and women are not men.

Speaker 2 (20:03):
And sports women should be protected. And there are a
lot of people who don't want to protect women in sports.
They really, really really hate women. And it's gross and
that happens on a national level, that happens right here
in Indiana. It's ugly despicable. Riley Gaines goes to speak
at a campus and she gets attacked. They chase her
through the halls. These aren't good people, These aren't decent people.

(20:28):
We disagree, so therefore you should be physically threatened. That's
the side that Representative of Costio Cortez is on. So
she challenges Representative of Costu Cortez to a debate. Someone's
challenging someone they disagree with to a debate all the time,
all the time. Representative of Costio Cortez responded on social

(20:50):
media by saying, and I would like to challenge this
person to get a real job. Oh my, was it
a real job when you were a bartender? Now I
know it's immediately where you went. That is the lowest
hanging fruit, and that's what makes it all so stunning.
As Riley Gaines responded, I have a real job. I'm

(21:13):
a mom and it's the most important rewarding job in
the world. I think if you had a baby girl
like I do, you'd understand my positions a little better.
Oh okay, now we're getting into it. You should get
a real job. It's funny people used to dismiss what

(21:33):
Representative Costu Cortez did as a bartender, to which we said,
right here, a job is a job. Good on you.
And so now she's dismissing people like she said it
was wrong to dismiss her, and then Riley Gaines comes
back with, well, maybe if you had kids, you wouldn't
be this way. I have no idea about Representative of

(21:54):
Costi Cortez and kids, if she could even have kids.
I never asked. But while this got a quick, representative
of Costio Cortes thinks it's funny to make fun of
Riley Gaines for having to compete against men and losing.

(22:14):
I put forth to you. This conversation has got back
and forth, has gotten ugly. But no one should think
somehow that Representative Costi Cortez is decent. She's not, never
has been, never has been. Get a real job. She's
a podcaster, she's a mother. I don't know what is

(22:37):
she supposed to do? Run for Congress? Is that the
real job? Is that the real job? The guy who
goes to the factory every day and drives an hour
to work, doesn't miss a single thing his kids does
on the weekends. Real job or no? Which which which?

(22:58):
What is real job? It's embarrassing, it's pathetic, it's shameful,
it's gross.

Speaker 3 (23:07):
I will admit to you that this desire.

Speaker 2 (23:10):
Do we need to speak to more people, and we
need to speak out more, we need to engage more.
I don't disagree, and I think people should. But maybe
the question should be asked this way, aside from getting
yourself some notoriety, should you really debate Representative Ocstio Cortez?

Speaker 3 (23:29):
Does it really require that?

Speaker 2 (23:31):
That'd be my question. I'm not saying the Riley gains
afraid to I wouldn't be afraid to name the person.
Let's go to work. But is that what we want?
Because in that we're asking a question, do we think
what we're getting as a debate. If we were to
take a look at the Democrats across Indiana, who am
I going to debate?

Speaker 3 (23:52):
What debate is actually going to happen?

Speaker 2 (23:55):
What actual discussion of ideas and ideals is going to
take place? That isn't going to become some kind of
nonsense from the party screed on the stage. That's that's it.
That's what's going to happen. But AOC saying get a

(24:16):
real job is just that is some low ugly right there.
That's that's the kind of elitist the bartender has become.
No longer she loves socialism. Look how much good it's
done for her, but a little down south, there is
this hurricane bearing down on Jamaica. This is a cat

(24:38):
for when I last saw this, Tara Hastings. I know
you've been following this because it's bigger than we understand. Right.

Speaker 9 (24:47):
Yes, it is a Category five storm, a massive storm.
Wins at one hundred and seventy five miles per hour.
The pressures dropped down to nine hundred and one millibars,
making it the eighth strongest hurricane in the Atlantic Basin
as far as pressure goes. Yesterday the hurricane hunters went

(25:09):
in this eyewall to kind of get a sample of
the pressure in the winds, and then we're talking about
you know, experienced pilots, a strong aircraft. They had to
turn around because the turbulence was so bad. So that
kind of gives you some perspective is just how massive
this storm is. Wording from the National Hurricane Center, catastrophic flooding,

(25:31):
flash flooding the eyewall winds may cause total structure of failure,
prolonged power outages, and life threatening storm surge. This could
be the strongest hurricane to ever hit the island of Jamaica,
and we're it's moving really slow. At about five miles
an hour. Likely landfall will be sometime after the lunch hour.

(25:53):
Of course they're feeling some of the outer bands right now,
but the landfall is actually when the eyewall goes over
and hits land. That'll probably happen after noon today.

Speaker 3 (26:04):
As things are recorded.

Speaker 2 (26:06):
Strongle's hurricane to hit Jamaica since eighteen fifty one.

Speaker 9 (26:10):
Wow.

Speaker 3 (26:12):
We will keep our eyes on it.

Speaker 2 (26:14):
Appreciate the update right there. That's Tara Hastings covering everything everywhere,
all the time.

Speaker 3 (26:21):
Appreciate you, Tara quite a bit. We've got forty.

Speaker 2 (26:24):
Nine degrees in the American Standard Heating Weather Center at
the time of seven o eight. When I first saw

(26:47):
this story, I saw the story as a trans student
in Moresdoe who was planning to shoot up the school.

Speaker 3 (27:04):
Tony Katz.

Speaker 2 (27:07):
Ninety three WIBC, Good morning, Morisville High School, Indiana, a.

Speaker 3 (27:14):
Eighteen year old. I don't use names here.

Speaker 2 (27:19):
When I first read the story, this was a girl
who thought herself a boy. That's was right there in
the reporting. But this was a national outlet, so I
started looking at local outlets, and a series of local
outlets did not mention the part about the transgenderism. To

(27:43):
their credit, WHR did. During the department's investigation, officers identified
the person of interest as.

Speaker 3 (27:52):
This woman.

Speaker 2 (27:56):
Utilizing the name of a man. And now we're hearing
that the female pronouns are okay. The suspect had access
to an AR fifteen ordered a bulletproof vest, had a
very very large interest in people like Nicholas Cruz. So

(28:23):
other shootings, whether it be Parkland or whether it be
South Carolina and that killer. There's a real question to
ask about mental illness and transgenderism. Of course this should

(28:44):
be asked. I'm not going to shy away from it.
Anybody who does or tells you you have to. It's
just ugly. But I think the larger problem is what
happens to people who are so broken they feel that
they have to take it out on others. That's the
question before us, And this is what was being planned

(29:07):
for a high school in Moresville. What else do we know?
What else don't we know? How do you even know
if a school is safe? And I'm not saying that
people should should walk around in fear or live in fear,
but rather these things are starting to become way too commonplace.

(29:30):
Never mind just school shootings in general. This is concerning stuff.
I don't think you can police every last thing. They
don't believe that. I do think that we had a
long conversation in America, or I should say a short
conversation in America far too long ago, about how do

(29:50):
you harden the target. That conversation seems to have gone away.
I don't think that conversation should go away. We might
want to guard schools like we guard jewelry stores. This
should come back to Indiana in great measure. How do
we want to do this? Do we want to pretend

(30:12):
this isn't happening? Or do we want to be grown
ups and deal with what might happen to the best
of our ability.

Speaker 3 (30:19):
That's my take.

Speaker 2 (30:20):
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Then grab your popcorn because there is more redistricting announced
the special the special session taking place. Governor Mike Braun
making that announcement yesterday. I had Governor Braun on the

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show on Tony Katz today. I had him on yesterday
to ask about what it is that made him say
this was the time for the special session.

Speaker 5 (32:45):
So let me give you the underpinning of why we're
doing it and then get to the uh why. I
think there are going to probably be enough votes there.
Blue states have already jerrymandered as much as they possibly
can to the benefit of their own party. You take
the six New England states that vote roughly around forty
percent Republican, they have zero Republican representatives in the House

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in Illinois, our neighbor to the west, and twenty four
that split was forty seven fifty three. Yet Democrats hold
fourteen out of the seventeen House seats. That is the
reason it needs to be done.

Speaker 2 (33:29):
And then why would we.

Speaker 5 (33:31):
Be dragging our feet? I think all along I wanted
this to be as organic as possible. Give it time,
and there's been conversations going on for a long time
between the White House. Obviously JD came in, Presidents made
a couple overtures. But I think if our own folks

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put their thinking caps on, they'll see that this is
the kind of even the playing field. And then when
you hear the votes aren't there. That's mostly coming from
Democrats and others that don't want it to occur for
the reasons I've just mentioned. They don't want the playing
field even. I think once this got to where it

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goes public, you'll have people getting off the fence and
you're going to see the votes will be there. Well,
let me in that it doesn't, and then you deal
with it.

Speaker 2 (34:26):
Because it's very possible you've called the special session but
doesn't guarantee the vote. That much is true what other
states have done this all seems to germinate out of
Texas making the change, then California saying that we're going
to engage in retribution. If Texas had never moved, would
Indiana have moved? Well, I think when.

Speaker 5 (34:47):
Texas did it, they were crossing the rubicon to actually
address the imbalance. California is a gerrymanders state. They've got
enough rats there where they can gerrymander probably further most
other states can't. And that who starts first, who's second.

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The gauntlet's been thrown down, and I think Hoosiers are
generally not going to maybe initiate stuff like that. Play
by the rules, but the rules haven't been played by
by the other side for a long time. That's why
I thought it was going to take time to get.

Speaker 2 (35:26):
To where we are now. Talking to Governor Mike Braun,
the governor of Indiana, a lot of statements from the
Indiana Republicans in the Senate saying they don't have the votes,
which I always thought was an interesting way for them
to talk about things. It seemed like they were trying
to engage a pressure campaign on Republicans in the Indiana
Senate to go forward with this. What does your internal

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whip count say do you have the votes on me districting?

Speaker 5 (35:52):
We think we're close enough to where once it becomes
a public discussion, you'll hide behind the fact that it's
all abstract until you have the discussion publicly. It looks
like the House was not necessarily there. They had come
along some time ago, and I think this is the

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catalysts that most Republicans in our state want it to
be a public discussion. I think any senators that are
still waffling haven't made up their mind. They'll hear from
their own constituents, and I think it'll be to go
forward with it.

Speaker 2 (36:30):
Indiana Democrats have come out to say, you're afraid of
the issues. You're losing on healthcare, you're losing on education,
You're just losing everywhere.

Speaker 3 (36:39):
Governor Brawn, how do you respond to that.

Speaker 5 (36:43):
I think if they think their policies, which reflect their
federal Democratic Party, if that's going to gain stride in
this state, that is a fatal mistake.

Speaker 3 (36:58):
We've done.

Speaker 5 (36:59):
More people are looking to Indiana on education. We've been
the state more than any other that has tried to
fix a broken healthcare system where our own system works
like an unregulated utility and in respect. They don't embrace competition, transparency.
We just touched on it in this last session. I

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think they're grasping at strall's for them to actually do
well in Indiana. You can't be behind the issues that
their federal party endorses. Their national party is all actually
want to do more of that. That's not going to
sell in Indiana.

Speaker 2 (37:41):
Talking to you, Governor Mike Brown of Indiana, allow me well,
I've got.

Speaker 3 (37:46):
A couple of minutes.

Speaker 2 (37:48):
The conversation has been fierce on redistracting and nasty on redistricting.
I'm going to share with you a post from Govenus
from the governor of California responding to your post, your
statement that I just read about the special session on
redistricting and the federal and state attacks issue. Here I

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share it as he wrote it, Sarah, I've got a minute.
Looks like Governor Brawn needs some kneepads. He's making a
very gross conversation here that you're just doing the White
Houses bidding and you're just providing them favors. A response
to Governor Newsom, I.

Speaker 5 (38:31):
Would say he is trying to stage himself before a
failed effort to run for president, and of course he's
got to say it because he's running the most dysfunctional
state in the country, and he'll lose congressional districts most
likely in the twenty thirty census because people are leaving

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his state in mass numbers. They're moving to places that
don't run like that. Likewise, New Yorkers, many of them
are moving to Florida. And when I looked at the
net migration into a state, Indiana, I think was the
only one in the northern half of the country that

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had people moving into it. And that's the benefit of
Pritzker and our neighbor to the west. So I think
that's the response I give, and I'd like to hear
his response to why people are moving out of his state.

Speaker 2 (39:30):
Didn't even get to bless your heart, why you took
the high ground there, Sir, Governor Mike Brown.

Speaker 3 (39:40):
I appreciate you taking the time.

Speaker 2 (39:42):
In November three is when you wanted to convene in
five seconds.

Speaker 3 (39:48):
Will it convene on the third I think it.

Speaker 5 (39:51):
Will, and I think there'll be a lot of reinforcement
for it. For senators that are still not sure what.

Speaker 2 (39:59):
Did There might very well be a lot of reinforcement
for my conversation with Governor Mike Brown. You'll find that
at WIBC dot com and on my YouTube page YouTube
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but I don't think you can get away with this today.
There's something off putting about these glasses. Tony Katz ninety
three WIBC, Good morning, Good to be with you during downtime.
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then producer Carl is there doing his best Bob Cavoian
impression with his La Dodgers hat. Winning it in eighteen
innings last night with the walk off Homer by Freddy Freeman.
Again that guy bringing in all the skill sets. Matt
Bear is holding up messages to the camera. I'll blink
twice if you need help, Matt Bear.

Speaker 8 (41:41):
I went three times. Sorry, I just said something entirely.
I gave the wrong message. Who does What's gonna happen now?

Speaker 3 (41:49):
Matt?

Speaker 2 (41:50):
Are you a fan of McDonald's.

Speaker 8 (41:52):
Yeah, beggar fries baby?

Speaker 2 (41:54):
Were you?

Speaker 3 (41:54):
Were you ever there at McDonald's in the eighties?

Speaker 8 (41:57):
Oh sure, yeah, I loved it.

Speaker 3 (41:59):
And what about a McDonald donalds in Hawaii?

Speaker 8 (42:01):
Never been to a McDonald's in Hawaii, tonty know, has
not happened nately?

Speaker 2 (42:05):
Someone is selling They're in Pendleton. They are selling vintage
nineteen eighties McDonald's Hawaiian glassware set. Oh and they're honestly,
they all have the McDonald's logo and they've they're like
rocks glasses, and they've got like ones got like a
boat on the on the waves, and the one's got

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you know, these guys they're they're rowing with the oars.

Speaker 3 (42:28):
Oh, here's the guy surfing.

Speaker 2 (42:29):
Oh he's got pecks right there, that guy's got Oh,
and these people are fishing. These people are fishing, and
the box says Hawaiians and they're sea glassware.

Speaker 3 (42:43):
I'm pretty sure this is racist.

Speaker 2 (42:45):
I don't know, I don't know why, I don't know how,
but I looked at the imagery and I looked at, uh,
the box, and I said something about this is very racist.
And I also just sent a message to the owner
that said I'll take it if it's racist.

Speaker 8 (43:05):
Please stop saying Hawaiian on the air and stop repeating
it over and over. I think we'll get in trouble.

Speaker 3 (43:09):
What Hawaiian?

Speaker 2 (43:10):
Yeah, no, no, no, no, Hawaiian is fine.

Speaker 3 (43:14):
No, it's not.

Speaker 2 (43:15):
I just of course it is. What's wrong with you Hawaiian?
Come on talking about someone's going to tell me this
imagery from the eighties is not acceptable, Like, oh, that's coming.

Speaker 8 (43:25):
The fisherman looks like Andrew dice Clay.

Speaker 3 (43:28):
By the way, they're rocks glasses. They're super groovy.

Speaker 8 (43:31):
Oh these are high balls.

Speaker 2 (43:32):
Yeah no, they're not high balls. That would be that
would be taller. Was that a Tom Collins glass?

Speaker 8 (43:39):
Hello, Tom Collins?

Speaker 2 (43:48):
Were you doing Tom Jones doing so?

Speaker 3 (43:55):
A highball glass is taller? It's like seven inches tall.

Speaker 2 (43:58):
He's a class Well excuse me, I just something. You
just look at them, they're they're very cool. Like like
if McDonald still did stuff like this, So if anybody
did stuff like this, you'd be like, that's great.

Speaker 8 (44:09):
You want to put a high ball on a kid's meal.

Speaker 2 (44:12):
Well, it's it's it's first of all, it's not a
kid's meal. Why no, no, no, no, this is not
a kid's meal.

Speaker 8 (44:20):
Okay, good.

Speaker 2 (44:21):
This is a Hawaiian big mac. There was extra pineapple
on it. And then and then, by the way, if
you made up if you made a big mac with pineapple,
I'd eat that.

Speaker 8 (44:30):
No no, no, no, no no no no oh yeah, you're
you're you're kidding, you're being facetious.

Speaker 3 (44:34):
Oh no, I'd eat that right now.

Speaker 2 (44:36):
You put you put a big mac with pineapple front
of me, right now, I'll eat it right now. On
the air.

Speaker 8 (44:39):
I want to just hearing about it.

Speaker 3 (44:41):
Why you anti pineapple?

Speaker 8 (44:43):
Yeah a little bit. Okay, So the issues in glassware,
it's you, it is me, it's always maybe me, and
I give it.

Speaker 2 (44:52):
Just because you have not been able to yet visit
the Hawaiian Islands doesn't mean you should be hateful.

Speaker 8 (44:58):
I've been there.

Speaker 10 (44:59):
I I was at Oahu Oahu King Mellie Gana Kamana Maya,
King Kamya Maya. He united the Hawaiian Islands, all seven of them.

Speaker 2 (45:11):
Correct, Okay, yes, I know you're reaching for it. I
want to make sure you.

Speaker 8 (45:15):
Louis Ilana, I think.

Speaker 2 (45:17):
Now the question before you say something you regrect.

Speaker 8 (45:23):
She was imprisoned by the Dole Plantation.

Speaker 2 (45:26):
Oh sorry, I was so close to getting out of this,
Matt Bear. These four rocks glasses are thirty dollars to
inter you out.

Speaker 8 (45:36):
I'm out.

Speaker 6 (45:36):
No.

Speaker 8 (45:38):
Even the first guy looks like Nick Cage, and I
think that's kind of cool, but I'm still out.

Speaker 11 (45:41):
Man.

Speaker 2 (45:42):
First of all, does look like Nick Cage?

Speaker 8 (45:44):
Nick Cage?

Speaker 6 (45:45):
The guy who.

Speaker 2 (45:46):
Does look like Nick Cage, that's unbelievable.

Speaker 8 (45:49):
Nick Cage in the front. Andrew Dice Clay in the bag.

Speaker 2 (45:52):
Uh no, no, maybe it's Dice.

Speaker 8 (45:55):
Yeah, a little dice in there.

Speaker 3 (45:56):
Come on, I did offer to buy it.

Speaker 2 (45:59):
I did say I'll take you right, so.

Speaker 8 (46:00):
I'll buy one from me.

Speaker 3 (46:01):
Sure, we'll say no, No, this is mine, mine alone.

Speaker 2 (46:05):
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Speaker 3 (46:09):
You should check it out for yourself.

Speaker 2 (46:10):
Gearing up for Halloween as we all are, I wanted
to take this moment.

Speaker 3 (46:16):
To remind you not to play the part of the fool.

Speaker 2 (46:20):
Tony Katz ninety three, WIBC, Good morning, Good to be
with you.

Speaker 3 (46:23):
I'll get to that in just a moment.

Speaker 2 (46:26):
On the redistricting the special session has been called, the
answer is absolutely we should redistrict. There is no guarantee
that just because you redistrict and redraw the lines then
everything's going to work out. You still have to run
quality candidates, and you still have to go out there
and sell your story, and you still have to go

(46:47):
out there and win. But it has been to me
remarkable to watch Republicans not recognize that the issues within
the state also do connect to issues within the nation.
That is to say that we have a role to play,

(47:07):
and this idea that you're stealing people's votes is a
lie and a fraud. Put forth by Democrats all over
the place, this idea, as Mitch Daniels elucidated that somehow
we don't need this.

Speaker 3 (47:22):
I disagree with the former governor.

Speaker 2 (47:25):
It's okay to do so, very okay to do so.
I disagree with Republicans who are opposed to redissecting.

Speaker 3 (47:35):
They are wrong, and I'm going to make the case
about it.

Speaker 2 (47:40):
I don't have to wake up every day hating these people.
I simply have to make a better argument than they have.
I have to persuade more, I have to push more,
and yes, ladies and gentlemen, pressure.

Speaker 3 (47:56):
Works, and I would like for everybody.

Speaker 2 (47:59):
To keep that in their hip pocket, because once this
is done, we're gonna move into another phase and I'm
going to need you all there when we do it.
A little bit of strategy goes a long way. For now,
we've got a special session on redistricting, and we should

(48:19):
redistrict the state of Indiana. I'll have more on this
on Tony Kats today at noon. But as I said,
you know, Halloween is here, Matt Bear. It's this week,
and some people are silly enough to dress up like
a creepy clown Matt Bear. Shockingly, they're like, we're gonna
dress up like a creepy clown and really try and

(48:40):
scare people and be threatening to people.

Speaker 3 (48:42):
And it's a danger. It's a danger, Matt Bear, to humanity.

Speaker 2 (48:46):
So we have a series of public service announcements to
help those people out who are thinking of dressing like
a creepy clown this Halloween.

Speaker 4 (48:56):
And now a public service announcement for anyone who's thinking
of seeing like a creepy clown this Halloween.

Speaker 2 (49:02):
You hear me talking, hell, billy boy, I ain't do
with you, my damn sight. I'm gonna get medieval on
your ass.

Speaker 4 (49:09):
This has been a public service announcement for anyone thinking
of dressing like a creepy clown this Halloween.

Speaker 3 (49:15):
Robo, We're just we're just trying to help Matt.

Speaker 8 (49:19):
Every time I hear my favorite, I hear a new favorite,
right right.

Speaker 2 (49:22):
We're just trying to help people through this very important
time in life. Don't dress up like a creepy clown.
It's it's gotta get bad for you. Do you need
one more, Matt, do one more?

Speaker 8 (49:35):
Just say yeah? Because I'm not convinced yet.

Speaker 3 (49:37):
I may have played this one yesterday. I'm not sure.

Speaker 2 (49:40):
Maybe I played this today.

Speaker 3 (49:41):
You know what. I played this one yesterday? About playing
again now?

Speaker 4 (49:44):
A public service announcement for anyone who's thinking of dressing
like a creepy clown this Halloween.

Speaker 2 (49:49):
I'm to keep you in the back of the head.
I'm ten years old. Bro, beat your ass.

Speaker 3 (49:54):
I won't come at you.

Speaker 2 (49:55):
I'm a monkey.

Speaker 4 (49:57):
This has been a public service announcement for anyone thinking
of dressing like your creepy cloth Halloween.

Speaker 8 (50:02):
I'm sold.

Speaker 2 (50:03):
Now, that's important.

Speaker 3 (50:06):
We're just trying to We're just trying to help with
lives people. That's all we're trying to do.

Speaker 8 (50:10):
Absolutely, that's it.

Speaker 3 (50:13):
That's it.

Speaker 9 (50:14):
Happy album with a partly cloudy sky, so dry on Friday.

Speaker 3 (50:18):
Yeah, but I need what is it?

Speaker 2 (50:19):
What is it going to be for when I'm actually
going to get candy and for the people in my neighborhood.
Full size or nothing, that's the deal. Don't give me
any snack size nonsense, silliness. And I'm telling you there's
a pack of raisins in there. I'm going to lose
my stuff or a pencil.

Speaker 3 (50:42):
You know what, you can do something with a pencil.

Speaker 2 (50:44):
The only thing you can do with raisins is throw
them away. They're nothing more than rotten grapes, That's all they.

Speaker 9 (50:51):
Are, yeph Do you know who gives out large sized
candy bars? Phil Sanchiaz Scott Sanderhouse. No, Scott Sanders really
has been four years? Yes?

Speaker 2 (51:04):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (51:05):
Is that why they call him full sized Scott Sander
on tinder?

Speaker 9 (51:09):
Is that what they call it?

Speaker 3 (51:10):
That? I was told?

Speaker 2 (51:13):
Humm, yeah, that's that could be awkwardly run into each other.

Speaker 9 (51:16):
No, not going to be at all.

Speaker 3 (51:18):
Dope do you give out?

Speaker 2 (51:20):
Do you give out the full sized candy bars?

Speaker 9 (51:24):
So we usually go trick or treating, so we're not
really giving out candy.

Speaker 3 (51:29):
Uh so you you're a taker, not a giver.

Speaker 9 (51:33):
No, we leave like a bowl of yes, smaller size stuff.

Speaker 2 (51:39):
Yeh, at the like Smarties and twelve year old neck
a wafers, don't you?

Speaker 9 (51:45):
Oh gosh, no, you're.

Speaker 3 (51:46):
The Circus Peanut House.

Speaker 9 (51:49):
Oh no, we usually give out. What did we give
out last year? I think it was Smarties? I think
it was smart I think my husband got Smarties and
some other kind of like starbars or something.

Speaker 5 (52:00):
Maybe.

Speaker 2 (52:00):
Yeah, and you know what the kids called it? Regret
for actually stopping by your house?

Speaker 5 (52:04):
Oh?

Speaker 9 (52:05):
Probably, I'm sure the doorbell camera agrees with you.

Speaker 2 (52:09):
Yeah, you know, you know we give out at Costa
Cats know, we give.

Speaker 9 (52:13):
Out brisk size candy bars, Brisket.

Speaker 2 (52:16):
We give out, we give out brisket.

Speaker 3 (52:18):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, brisket sandwich. This is what we do.

Speaker 9 (52:21):
We have a full come in like with an apron
and a napkin and a fork and then they yeah,
I mean if.

Speaker 2 (52:27):
You want to do it right, sure, but I mean
we do have the bar set up like your parents
want a drink corre, like here.

Speaker 9 (52:32):
You go, oh see wow, so like you just walk
around with their tumblers and you just pour.

Speaker 3 (52:40):
Oh yeah. I until I moved to Indiana.

Speaker 2 (52:43):
First of all, it is forty nine degrees in the
American standard heating weather center at the time is eight
or nine. That's Tara Hastings. I'm Tony Katz. This is
Tony Cats in the morning News. It's WIBC. Until I
moved to Indiana, I never saw people just hanging out
on Halloween and they like fires and they're carrying and

(53:03):
they're drinking. And I'm like, yep, I don't know where
I just moved to, but this is amazing. It ever
happened in Jersey. It never happened in Florida. It never
happened in California, never once.

Speaker 3 (53:15):
Never ever.

Speaker 2 (53:16):
I'm like, this place is amazing, or all my neighbors
have a serious issue and it could be a little
bit of both. Yeah, it's very possible. So I'm like,
this is this is great. So we just I bought
into that lock Stock and Barrel. I think it's fantastic.

Speaker 9 (53:32):
I agree. You get everybody just walking around having fun
music and you know, cocktails, whatever is in your tumbler.
Right times, I'm not here, judge, Nope, not at all.

Speaker 3 (53:48):
No, not in the slightest nor in any way. That's
not it.

Speaker 2 (53:56):
So anyway, skip Tara Hastings home. It's crap candy and
you won't be there anyway.

Speaker 9 (54:01):
The right yep, Sander.

Speaker 3 (54:05):
Full sized candy bars.

Speaker 2 (54:07):
Oh yeah, okay, you have to have to search that up.
That right there is Tara Hastings from which TV.

Speaker 3 (54:17):
Thank you, Tara. Can you can play the thing now there,
Carl go ahead, Yeah, I was glad. We're just I mean,
I just took for forever.

Speaker 2 (54:31):
I took for forever on that. Tony Katz ninety three
w I v C. Good morning, President Trump in Japan
meeting with Sanday Takeichi Uh producer Carls like, I believe

(54:51):
this is the proper pronunciation of the new Prime minister,
and I said, I will go along with that.

Speaker 11 (54:56):
But tonight I'm more confident than ever that the friendship
between the United S in Japan as strong as strong
as it can be, and it's thriving, it's prosperous, and
it'll soon be, I think, greater than ever before. And
we had four great years. You know, we had the
greatest economy in the history of our country. But we're
blowing it away this time. To be honest with you,
we're blowing that was we had four great years. As

(55:19):
you know, we had the one year deduction.

Speaker 9 (55:22):
I thought the one year little do We're going to
continue following President Trump?

Speaker 6 (55:25):
You do that?

Speaker 2 (55:26):
I love that Trump was talking about the friendship with Japan.
Was like, you know, we've got a great economy. The
man never stops. It is amazing. Well more on the
trip to Japan and what is in store for the
conversation with Jijinping of China. Tony Kats ninety three WIBC.

Speaker 3 (55:43):
Good morning.

Speaker 2 (55:45):
So now that you've got redistricting, well I should say
you've got the special session called for redistricting. Does even
just the basic idea. Does this change how the business
community views well, a lot of stuff. Do they change
how they do business? Do they wait to see what happens?

(56:06):
Does it put deals on hold? Tony Katz ninety three WIBC,
Good morning, Great to be with you. We should be
clear plenty of business owners lead with their politics first.
Gary Dick joins us from Inside Indiana Business dot Com
on the Twitter X.

Speaker 3 (56:21):
I be two parts to this question. Let's start with
the first part.

Speaker 2 (56:26):
Were you surprised to see Governor Braun call for the
special session yesterday?

Speaker 8 (56:31):
No, I don't think so, Tony.

Speaker 12 (56:33):
You know, I think there's been a lot of speculation,
obviously for the past number of weeks that this might happen,
So I don't think it came as a surprise. In
talking with folks around the state in the business community,
I don't think there was tremendous surprise there either. And
I think the other piece of it is too when
you talk about this whole redistricting issue in the business community,

(56:56):
it really, at least as far as I can tell,
doesn't rise to the top among the big issues in
the business community. They seem to be certainly a lot
more focused on some of the macroeconomic issues, inflation, tax policy,
all those kinds of things, Tariffs and the impact of
tariffs obviously more front and center those types of things

(57:18):
as opposed to this whole redistricting issue.

Speaker 2 (57:21):
Well, we could be clear that if you are somebody
focused on those things, that a redition could lead to
more possible members of Congress that could vote your way. So,
now that it's here, do you see the business community
getting involved in all in trying to pressure members of
the General Assembly one way or the other.

Speaker 12 (57:44):
I don't. I guess, I don't know, you know, to
be very honest, I think as you look at the
current makeup, of course, seven of nine members and the
congressional delegation are on the Republican side of the ledger.
Now the two obviously here in districts in Indianapolis and
Northwest Indiana. Those two potentially could change and are targets,

(58:05):
I assume, in this redistricting scenario. But you know, in
terms and to your point, Tony, change in the congressional
makeup obviously can have an impact on things like federal
funding and support for federal programs and distribution of funds,
those types of things. But as you look at the

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current makeup seven Republicans two Democrats, would that in any
scenario change dramatically. Probably not so. I think the feeling
is in the business community that any substantial change might
not have a tremendous impact here in the state from
a business standpoint.

Speaker 2 (58:47):
Talking to Gary Dick from Inside Indiana Business dot Com
on the Twitter x at I be personally at Gary
Dick G E R R Y at Garydick on the
Twitter x you can follow him there. Let's move it
over to something things happening in Indie sixteen Tech.

Speaker 3 (59:02):
You have got the Applied Research Institute.

Speaker 2 (59:05):
They're going to be adding a headquarters for what's known
as Heartland Bioworks at sixteen Tech. Has this area, the
sixteen Tech area. Has this lived up to the hype?

Speaker 12 (59:20):
I think it's getting there, Tony. That's a great question, really,
because this is a project sixteen techs that has been
talked about literally for decades, I think through four mayoral administrations.
It is now certainly a reality. I think we had
the story earlier this week that several dozen companies have
set up shop there, small startups beginning to grow there.

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You saw IU Indiana University with its IU Lab project,
a major investment in a new building that will go
there as part of the research that IU is doing
and part of the overall research hub here in Indianapolis.
Then you mentioned this story that we have out there today,
the Applied Research Institute in Bloomington, which is kind of

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the leader of this new federal technology hub identified by
the US Department of Commerce. It will be located physically
located at sixteen Tech. And the broader vision Tony which
initial vision and the one that's playing out right now,
is to have sixteen Tech serve as literally a hub
connected to the IU Med Center, all the resources there,

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the new campus of Indiana University and Purdue University Indianapolis.
It's connected physically by a bridge that spans those entities.
So to answer your question, yes, the reality is happening now.
This Heartland Bioworks Center, this hub will be a big
part of it. And the other piece, and you and

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I've talked about it a lot, is population growth. Talent.
This sixteen Tech is a big talent play. The whole
idea is to attract talent, to keep talent here, to
grow the population base and that's the ultimate ultimate goal.

Speaker 2 (01:01:05):
Yeah, sixteen tech at Amp also has Circle City suites.
So if you want the finest quite literally the finest
croissants and chocolate chip cookies is Cindy Hawkins, who is
the winner of the World Food Championship in the dessert category.

Speaker 3 (01:01:20):
Just the other day.

Speaker 2 (01:01:21):
So any chance to be supportive of that, I do.
Talking to Gary Dick from Inside Indiana Business dot Com.
Before I let you go, let's talk about soybeans, because
it is clear that in trying to apply pressure for
the upcoming Traine negotiation with President Trump, China also desperate

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to try and get the United States to lay off
if they should go about engaging reunification with Taiwan. They
have cut off US farmers regarding soybean purchases.

Speaker 3 (01:01:53):
They're looking at South.

Speaker 2 (01:01:54):
America hard, but this has been going on for years,
with the building of rail systems in South America, building
up South American soybean farming so they don't have to
rely on the United States. Soybeans huge to China because
of their hog population and also soybean byproducts that are
utilized there. So Brazilian farmers, as you have the story,

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are building them up their soybean production. How are Hoosier
farmers dealing with this halt on soybean sales and are
they concerned that it won't come back?

Speaker 12 (01:02:25):
Well, I think there is concerns certainly are watching it
very closely, to put it mildly, And this another example
of the you know, political global political ramifications that can
hit home in an egg state like Indiana. So I
think the bottom line is at this point it's it's
a quote unquote wait and see kind of attitude, but

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one that has potential ramifications for a state like Indiana,
which is one of the country's biggest producers of soybeans.

Speaker 2 (01:02:55):
Is the is the word on the farm. Any deal
is a good deal. We've seen this with China before
that deals get made and pharmers will go okay, we
know at least what's going to happen for a short while,
but China can't be trusted in the long term. And that,
by the way being the issue. Has anyone discussed that

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maybe what it is that we grow, if we're talking
about a world market, maybe we should be thinking about
that world market differently. If there is no faith that
could be had in China continuing to buy our products.

Speaker 12 (01:03:28):
I think it's you know, constantly under consideration, examination, without
question in terms of that mix. And as you look
at agriculture in Indiana, you know, corn and soybeans obviously
those staple crops that Indiana is known for, to be sure,
but you have heard increasingly and will continue in the
future to hear more about the agg biosciences. In bioscience

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is a part of that, a new technology, all those
kinds of things, and that gets in, I think a
bit to your question in terms of kind of what's
next where the future of agriculture is headed. Thanks. That's
a big part of why you're hearing so much about
the gag bioscience movement here in the state of Indiana.

Speaker 2 (01:04:09):
Gary Dick inside Indiana Business dot Com on the Twitter
ex at iib I appreciate you being with us. Time
to fill up on the news. Tony Katz ninety three WIBC,
Good morning, Good to be with you. Doubt futures up
to twenty six. Nasdaq futures are up fifty six. As

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we discussed Amazon doing layoffs, it was the New York
It was, though, sorry, the Wall Street Journal that said
thirty thousand jobs corporate jobs, White collar jobs. This is
CNBC saying they're laying off fourteen thousand corporate employees. But
that might just be the first trunch right there, relying
on AI more than the people. West Texas crewed is down.

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Oil prices per barrel at sixty dollars and thirty seven
dropping as we speak on the West Texas coming out
of the ground, out of the oceans, the Brent crewed
at sixty four dollars and sixty six cents a barrel,
and the tenure treasury back under four at three point
nine ninety three. So it's found now over the last

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two weeks. We'll call it two weeks. No, we'll call
it no, we'll call two weeks. It's found this home
now at right there, at that just under four percent number.
It's why you saw so many mortgage applications last month.
Gold prices under four thousand, thirty nine and twenty four dollars.

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Is the spot price on the gold the silver off
of its highs at forty six dollars and forty six cents.
That is where we are at right now with the
gold and silver. Lord only knows. This is this is
profit taking. This is everybody calming down. This is some

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better look at the economy going forward. Of course, everything
is looking at President Trump and possible trade deals going
on with China. How is that going to play out?
I already shared the conversation regarding soybeans. And while all
this is happening, we still have a shutdown taking place.

Speaker 3 (01:06:34):
We're on day ninety four trillion, and.

Speaker 2 (01:06:38):
It has gotten so intense that the Chaplain of the Senate.

Speaker 3 (01:06:44):
Is now getting in on this. By the way, if.

Speaker 2 (01:06:46):
You've never heard the Rear Admiral Barry Black speak, oh
what I would get? You know, I've had people say
to me, you know, I get that you're in radio.
You have a good radio voice, And I'm.

Speaker 3 (01:06:56):
Like, oh, no, I no, I do not.

Speaker 2 (01:06:58):
Matt Bear has a good radio voice. Matt Bear is
a fine radio voice producer. Carl Okay, no, no, terrible,
But I do not have a good radio voice. Barry Black,
the Rear Admiral, the Setate Chaplain.

Speaker 6 (01:07:17):
Let us pray, Eternal God, Our King, when our children
and grandchildren want to know what we were doing in
the one hundred and nineteenth Congress during the famous shutdown,

(01:07:40):
may we not have to give these answers. I helped
set a new record for keeping the government closed. I
failed to appeal to the better angels of my nature.
I forgot Matthew seven twelve, which states, due to others

(01:08:07):
whatever you would like them to do to you. This
is the essence of all that is taught in the
law and prophets. Lord, remind our lawmakers that no gold
medals are given for breaking shutdown records, but a crown

(01:08:33):
of righteousness is given to those who take care of
the lost. Last, and least. We pray in your loving name, Amen.

Speaker 2 (01:08:51):
Oh my, oh, my goodness. That's the set of Chaplain
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(01:09:15):
Katz ninety three WIBC, Good morning. My problem is I
know the theme song, but I think I'm confusing the show,
and I don't think I should confuse the show. Tony
Kats ninety three, WIBC, Good morning, Good to be with you.
It's time to play America's favorite game. What the heck
is that television theme song? Here is how we play

(01:09:38):
our game. Producer Carl.

Speaker 3 (01:09:40):
By the way, producer Carl is back.

Speaker 2 (01:09:41):
It's good to have him. He has selected a television
theme song from yesteryear. I have to figure out what
it is. I, of course can ask the chat room,
and as usual, I will start by phoning a friend,
and that friend is Matt Bear. Matt Bear, what is

(01:10:03):
this television theme song?

Speaker 8 (01:10:04):
I believe that's the Handmaid's Tail tone?

Speaker 2 (01:10:07):
Well played, good work, ladies and gentlemen. That is the
theme to Dick van Dyke. That's classic television ladies and gentlemen.
By the way, Dick van Tyke is one hundred years old.
He refuses to go and I believe when last asked
about it, he said, have you seen Keith Richards. I'm

(01:10:29):
out living that guy. That's I believe.

Speaker 8 (01:10:33):
What he.

Speaker 2 (01:10:35):
Said. So I I mean, if we're going sound effect
for sound effect, their producer, Carl, I will crush you. Okay,

(01:11:01):
it's on, all right, it's it's it's on.

Speaker 10 (01:11:05):
What would be with you right now?

Speaker 2 (01:11:08):
We think any follows.

Speaker 6 (01:11:10):
That's what.

Speaker 2 (01:11:12):
Meow m I can do this old day, old day son.
It's stick all right, you one, thank you very much,

(01:11:39):
thank you, very very much. What this whole place sucks
it took years to be this prepared for that moment
of battle. I didn't even get into the really old
school elementary.

Speaker 10 (01:11:57):
Was born elementary down three or six.

Speaker 3 (01:12:03):
And then I've got the whole Tara Hastings board.

Speaker 2 (01:12:05):
Ooh okay, right, so I'm.

Speaker 3 (01:12:09):
I'm well prepared.

Speaker 2 (01:12:11):
On Tony Katz. Today at noon we will get more
into President Trump's trip to Asia meeting with the Japanese
Prime minister today. And I'm telling you this is more
important than I think is being led on. This is
about how one is going to deal with Chinese hegemonic power,

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and it's incredibly important.

Speaker 3 (01:12:36):
Thwarting the communist Chinese is everything.

Speaker 2 (01:12:40):
Then again, thwarting communists is always important. This story that Mamdani,
the guy running for mayor in New York, he's like
the the discrimination my Auntie felt after September eleventh, she
was afraid to ride a subway, and.

Speaker 3 (01:12:58):
Then it was it wasn't my aunt it was my cousin.

Speaker 2 (01:13:00):
And then people are like, you don't know the colloquialism
regarding Auntie and what that means. Allow me, all communists
lie all the time, and Mamdani is a liar and
a fraud and for the record September eleventh happens. You
didn't see a spate of mosques being burned, nor did
you see Muslims being attacked on the streets. You could

(01:13:23):
have had someone acting like a jerk. It's nonsense. So
is Islamophobia, by the way. In it's nonsense and irrational
fear of Muslims. Know now, a true disgust with Islamists,
absolutely every day incompatible with Western civilization. There's just no debate.

(01:13:43):
We're going to discuss the fact that Islam needs a reformation.
It needs a reformation. The Islamist is not compatible with
the Muslim based on what we know to be true
on history, on reality. You're gonna now tell me about
how Zarn Mamdani, this communist, by the way, communism incompatible

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with Western civilization, incompatible with rational life. You need to
tell me he isn't what he is. He is what
he is. So let's not let's not lie to each other.
Let's not be this level a fool.

Speaker 3 (01:14:22):
No, no, no, no no, And.

Speaker 2 (01:14:24):
Yeah, we have to fight it. We have to fight
it everywhere because these people, they don't stop, they don't rest,
they don't quit. They are all liars, all of them.
All communists are liars, All Islamis are liars, and why
are they working together the destruction of Western civilization. This
is not some kind of just talking points. The reality
is all around us. All we have to do is

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be willing to recognize it.

Speaker 3 (01:14:47):
It doesn't matter what they say.

Speaker 2 (01:14:49):
It doesn't matter Bernie and A and Acassio Cortes and Mamdani.
They have this rally in thousands of people show up
in New York. It's pathetic. They're pathetic people. They certainly
don't believe in the America. You and I believe and
you think that Jesse Brown believes in the America. You
and I believe in absolutely not. You actually think business
should be should be taken from the ownership and given

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to the workers. You still believe this lie, this nonsense,
this failed concept. There's one guy at the top and
you end up in a gulag, and that's communism. The
facts are the facts. Well, the problem, Tony is that
real communism hasn't been tried. Okay, you keep trying to

(01:15:33):
sell that. Do not let these people have power, do
not let them near power, do not vote for them
in any way, shape or form. I will have more
on this on Tony Katz today at noon, and the
redistrict thing, of course, is going to be the larger
scale conversation. The redistricting is going to go on. The

(01:15:54):
special session has been called for Monday. Now who knows
if they'll actually convene on Monday for the special session
regarding redistricting. I will first things first, always focus and
just because you're focusing on one thing doesn't mean you
can't focus on something else at the same time. You
could do more than one thing at a time, but

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doesn't mean you can't to get to something else.

Speaker 3 (01:16:16):
Next, I will get into what that is.

Speaker 2 (01:16:21):
I put forth to you that the people opposed to redistricting,
and I believe are wrong Democrats stealing, screaming about it's stealing,
and you can't win the honest way.

Speaker 3 (01:16:29):
This is all the honest way, a.

Speaker 2 (01:16:31):
Legal political process. Why don't you go be better candidates
and beat some Republicans but you're not able to This
is about you. You think you're connected to Hoosias, you
think you're representative of Hoosiers. Not true, not so if
only because the election result tells me so. Republicans opposed

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to redistricting. I don't think have a clear understand or
I should say it differently. Appreciation for the nationwide fight
and what part of I believe their job is. But
to the concept of why is Indiana focused on this,
I think you're seeing it wrong. I think the calling

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of the special session has created a great opportunity, and
that opportunity has a name, and it's called precedent. And
I will discuss what we're going to do with that precedent.

Speaker 3 (01:17:30):
But first, let's have the special session.

Speaker 2 (01:17:34):
Let us call our members of the Indiana Senate, and
let's redistrict. I favor this and I will keep doing so.
Catch at noon