October 29, 2025 • 28 mins
Grand Jury investigating Micah Beckwith's office. Pickup lines are no longer a thing. Booger candy. Grand Jury investigation into Micah Beckwith's office. Rob Kendall joins to discuss. Anyone getting dressed up for Halloween? Getting older.
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Speaker 1 (00:08):
Tony Katz in the Morning News ninety three WIBC. My
name is Craig Collins. Filling in in about half an
hour a little bit less than that, we will have
Rob Kendall join us. From Kendall and Casey, how to
talk about this crazy story coming out of the Lieutenant
Governor's office and the potential that there was a deep
fake video that got passed around that involved the wife
(00:31):
of another state politician and then also now like a
ghost employee or ghost employees. I mean, there might have
been like you know, embezzling and all kinds of fraud
taking place. Before I do anything else, though, I'll play
some of which TV our TV partner's coverage of the
announcement that a grand jury is investigating Indiana Lieutenant Governor
Micah Beck with and some of these allegations Micah has
(00:53):
obviously denied them, which is actually also in this coverage here.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
Here in County Crossleader's office confirms a grand jury is
investigating the office of the Lieutenant governor. Court document show
a grand jury met twice to discuss allegations of distribution
of an intimate image and ghost employment. The panel took
testimony both times, but did not make any decisions. Document
show the investigation is into the office, not necessarily the
(01:18):
Lieutenant Governor himself. Lieutenant Governor Micah Beckwith briefly addressed the
allegations this afternoon.
Speaker 3 (01:26):
That story is so false that there's no proof. There's
no evidence. We've never seen anything like that, never happened
in my office. But if there is, I mean there
can be grand jury investigations for all kinds of things.
We don't know. We haven't been privy to that information.
Speaker 1 (01:39):
They'll be all right, I got to stab right there.
The biggest reason that it'll be interesting to talk to
Rob Kendall of Kendall and Casey is because of the
interview he did with Aaron Sheridan back in the middle
of September. And in that interview, Aaron, who is a
former senior advisor to Indiana Lieutenant Governor Micah beck With,
described the video, the video that is now allegedly a
thing that existed, described getting handed a phone and seeing
(02:04):
the video and being confused by why the staffers all
thought it was so funny and that it was the
wife of a state representative. This is something that Kendall
and Casey have been on for a while now that
has a much bigger, say, a footprint in Indiana news
media because of the potential investigations and everything else going
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on with a grand jury, and we don't know everything.
A lot of stuff is sealed still. But if anybody
knows anything else about this, I feel like it's going
to be Rob Kendall. So we're going to have him
on in about twenty five minutes or so to discuss
this in greater detail. But these allegations are pretty damaging
and fairly awful and one other thing, and it almost
feels mean. I'm not trying to be mean, I'm just
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trying to be honest. Is flashing back to anything that
Beckwith said when he was running for the office of
Lieutenant governor, as you know, a part of a ticket
with the governor in Beckwith saying that he was the
religious choice. He was a choice for someone who believed
in things like God, or believed in things like of
course a pastor and all those other things that beckw is.
(03:10):
So this story specifically out of that office even more so,
feels like it's going to be a dominant news headline
for that reason because the individual sold himself as someone
that's a person of faith. And again, none of this
is confirmed. All these are allegations. I need to make
that abundantly clear. And I'm not pretending as though I
know the truth is different than what we know publicly
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right now. But I at least do know that WIBC
has done an incredible job in covering this. And once
again I'm gonna pat him on the back one more time,
Kendall and Casey, both of them, Casey Daniel two in
having this story a month ago before it became more
of a dominant topic now, and I'm sure they'll have
an even deeper dive and excellent coverage of it, you know,
in just a few hours on this station as well.
(03:51):
All Right, quick break, A lot coming up. Craig Collins
filling in, Tony Kat's The Morning News ninety three WIBC. Tony,
It's the Morning News ninety three WIBC. My name is
Craig Collins filling in. That is Matt Bear, that is
Carl Showbiz hanging out on the show as well as
they do every single morning on this program. You can
(04:12):
hear Matt on the Matt and Craig Excellent Podcast if
you want to check that out. WIBC dot com. It's great.
The co host is pretty good too, the guy who
is on that show with brilliant Thank you, buddy, thank you.
I thought this was interesting, and it's probably a Matt
and Craig Excellent Podcast type of topic, so it might
come up at some point on our show. But there's
something that's slowly going away, although I probably shouldn't even
(04:33):
say slowly, it seems to be very quickly going away
to a certain extent. What could that be? Pickup lines?
Guys don't use pickup lines anymore, according to the internets,
because they're afraid that women will be offended by them
or take them poorly. So the tried and true version
of hitting on somebody when you were in a certain generation,
say the gen xers out there, the Baby boomers, even
(04:55):
some millennials, is no longer a thing that a lot
of people rely on anymore. You don't walk up to
a young woman and say certain things to her and
hope that it goes well, Like I've lost my phone number?
Can I have yours? Apparently that's not something you do anymore,
that's what he got of it.
Speaker 4 (05:08):
Well, No, this is the best news I've heard in
a long time. I've always been bad at pick them lines,
and it's always I don't slide into dms because of it.
I don't have anything clever to say. I'm awful with
small talk. I have a lot of I'm very flawed
when it comes to hitting on women. I hate admitting that,
but I U I used one once back in my
previous life, my party days, and it was I just
(05:30):
started doing traffic. And I think I've said this on
this show before, but I used to say, hey, do
you want to get to know an Indianapolis media footnote?
And to me that was funny and to her it
was not. Ever that one time I tried it and
I stopped trying it after that, but pickup lines, I
always felt like I was being cheesy and something insincere
(05:52):
and a very sincere moment. And this sounds so not manly.
Everything saying right now the true, but it's totally the truth.
Speaker 1 (06:01):
By the way, I totally thought you were going to
have like a traffic related pickup line, like are you
a parking ticket because you have fine written all over
you something like that. I thought that's what you were
going to do.
Speaker 5 (06:11):
Oh, I love that you take it. You can use
it if you want split No, I got.
Speaker 1 (06:19):
Well done. I got to be honest, though. Man, Like,
I think that the type of people that would be
amused by this are the kinds of people that you
might want to date. And so like, part of me
always like to use the pickup line a in a
place like a bar or something, and definitely do it
in a cheesy and silly way and maybe a somewhat
risk way, because you wanted someone to look at you
and laugh and not like look at you and think
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that you're a horrible person for it, and that kind
of helps weed out the ladies as much as it
does anything else. So like, I think it's sad that
the pickup line is most interactions face to face are
going away. I've heard a lot of people. I actually
witnessed this the other day. I was at a restaurant
and this guy and girl had bumped into each other
who didn't really know each other very much, but they
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must they must have somehow known each other at least
a little bit. And as the guy's walking away, he
asked her for her Instagram. He didn't ask her for
a phone number or anything else. He's like, can I
get your insta and she's like, Oh, sure, that's so
dumb that that's a thing that they do now to
try to hit on each other via the social media
apps and not you know, just freaking text or call
this person and try to have a relationship that way.
Speaker 4 (07:20):
I'm going to walk up to a forty year old
woman and say, hey, can I have your snaps?
Speaker 5 (07:27):
Old, That's going to be my life.
Speaker 1 (07:28):
Thank you, Carl.
Speaker 4 (07:29):
There you go, that's going to be my line. Yeah,
let's trade snapchats here. Let's be honest about this. It
doesn't matter what you say in the moment. If she's
attracted to you, she's gonna laugh. I mean, as long
as it's not foul or something entirely blue or you know,
referencing something you.
Speaker 5 (07:47):
Know you got, you gotta be kind of cool about it.
Speaker 4 (07:49):
I guess you still have to be clever. But if
she thinks you look good or you know, in the
case of a bar, if she's had a drink or two,
she's going to be attracted to you.
Speaker 5 (07:57):
It's like sending a gift.
Speaker 4 (07:58):
If you send a gift to a woman who's not
attracted to you, you're creepy as hell.
Speaker 5 (08:03):
But if she's into you, it's flattering. You know.
Speaker 4 (08:05):
It all depends on her perception, man, and that's what
you have to keep in mind when you do this stuff.
Speaker 1 (08:09):
Well, yeah, that's fair, cool with it now. I think
the biggest concern is that you go viral because someone
says you're a creep. I think that's the only difference
I do, honestly, I think that's the only difference now
and before. Like, if you swing and miss and there's
not Facebook, you don't wind up having like a woman
who's upset with you potentially go viral on the Internet
complaining about you with video. That would just be like
(08:30):
I hit on that girl at the grocery store and
it didn't work out. We'll never see each other again.
But now, the fact that there's a staying power behind it,
I might be part of the reason we see less.
Speaker 5 (08:38):
But I don't know.
Speaker 4 (08:39):
Well, he can't hit on the woman at the grocery store.
That's I mean, I go, who can you hit off?
We'll work at Jim grocery store. So now I'm down,
like to game.
Speaker 1 (08:50):
Yeah, I can't hit on you while you're buying a cucumber.
What can I do? Darn it?
Speaker 4 (08:56):
But think about it, you know, I mean, what business
do I have hitting on a woman who's already looks
thirty years younger than me at a grocery store. Yes,
I'm single, Yes I have no kids, but seeing this woman,
I mean, I already am down half a point with
my age. So maybe a online thing is already watched
your age.
Speaker 5 (09:14):
Would you not? But it doesn't matter, I don't. Let's
think about it.
Speaker 4 (09:17):
When you were twenty three and you knew you could
date twenty three year old woman, what did you want
to do? You wanted to date twenty three year old women,
you weren't thinking about A woman at that age is
not thinking, man. I wish a forty seven year old
man would come up and hit on me. Will never
since after a long day, Oh my god. Right over
there are getting ready to cook raw chicken on his
form and grill.
Speaker 5 (09:38):
That's what they're thinking.
Speaker 1 (09:39):
I don't know, man. The other twenty three year old guys,
I'll live at home. They don't. They live with mom
and dad, right, So there's a shot that they're looking
for somebody a little bit older. By the way, one
other thing out there, just to shift gears from our
giving a dating advice and me continuing to do band
pickup lines on the radio. Apparently the makers of a
product that went viral a while ago. This was breast
(10:00):
milk ice cream. I don't know if I ever talked
about that on the show. It's not actually made of
the thing. It's supposed to be reminiscent of the thing. It's,
you know, an artificial version of it. They've now come
out with booger candy. They say that it doesn't actually
taste Yep, it's real. They say it doesn't actually taste
like like burgers, Thank you, Carl. They say it doesn't
(10:22):
actually taste like it, but it looks like it, it
feels like it, and you know, you can give it
to kids for Halloween. This would be the than This
would be the worst thing you ever give a child,
because you don't want to encourage them to do the
real version of finding some of these on their own.
Speaker 4 (10:36):
What you got on this one, Well, I was thinking
while you were telling that, what the hell we're doing
with booger candy? I mean, and it's going to be like,
this doesn't even taste like boogers. This isn't the real thing.
This is imitation. Yeah, this is that thing that they
put in things that make it last two months longer.
Whatever that protein or that thing is. I kids would
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love it. This is something you give kids a Halloween, right,
you hand out candy and that you're the house of
the night. Everybody's like, oh, I got booger candy from
the Bear House. I mean that that could be fun.
But I said that, I what's the use of it?
What are we doing with it?
Speaker 5 (11:10):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (11:10):
That's the hell of a sentence. By the way, I
got the booger candy from the Bear House. Like, if
I didn't know the way you spelled your name, I'd
be like, what'd you do?
Speaker 5 (11:18):
Where'd you go?
Speaker 1 (11:20):
It's but yeah, I think it's interesting too. I would
be upset as a parent if my kid got booger candy,
because I'm like, what are you trying to do? Make
them pick their nose, make them get bullied in school?
Like make them yeah, turn that road.
Speaker 5 (11:31):
Gohe there is?
Speaker 1 (11:33):
Yeah, I don't encourage. No, it's just like the smoking candy,
although I love the candy cigarettes as a kid. What's
the avenue there? It's to eventually I think smoke a
pack of Day that was.
Speaker 4 (11:43):
Up to like the avenue was to sue the candy
manufacturer because I exactly I smoked for twenty years because
of those candy cigarettes, and damn it, what my money?
You know?
Speaker 1 (11:51):
Yeah, I was up to three packs of candy cigarette
to day. Man, I mean still, what was I gonna do? Yeah,
you just had to keep going. I had to go
to the grocery store. Actually, it was a liquor store
near my house as a child that I went to
to buy candy cigarettes. That's a real thing that happened
to me as a kid.
Speaker 4 (12:05):
Does your mom make you go in a store to
buy cigarettes?
Speaker 5 (12:07):
Ever?
Speaker 1 (12:08):
No? Not once. No, she hit she pretended she wasn't
still smoking when we were little kids.
Speaker 5 (12:13):
My mom did too.
Speaker 4 (12:14):
Absolutely, yeah, I caught her. I caught her one time
and then I started smoking.
Speaker 1 (12:18):
Dude, I did too. My mom would not want me
to tell this whole story on the radio, so I'll
probably only tell you know a short version of it.
But I found a pack of cigarettes in mom's desk
drawer at her work when I was like a teenager,
and I was like, Mom, come on, it's been so
long now, I thought you gave this up, and she's like,
I took it from someone else. It wasn't mine. I
learned it from you, and I was like, ahhah, sure, yeah,
(12:42):
but yes, I think that was a thing. For the
most part, I think my mom did kick that habit though,
which I imagine is hard to do and probably something
that happens a lot if you have kids. All of
a sudden you're like, I can't smoke anymore because there's
small babies around me. Thank year ago, I praised her.
I tried to praise her. At the end, they're met,
how we should take a break? A lot coming up
on the show, Matt Scott Traffick for you. This Craig
(13:02):
Collins filling in on ton Kats The Morning News, Tony
Kats in the Morning News ninety three WIBC. My name
is Craig Collins, filling in on and off. I've been
talking about the big story involving Micah Beckwith's office, the
Lieutenant Governor, reported on by WISH TV and a bunch
of other places yesterday. A grand jury a couple times
and I think August and September has contemplated, discussed, and
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a lot of it has sealed certain potential charges allegations
about both a deep fake video that might have been
passed around by members of Beckwit's office and then also
potentially some ghost employees at least one, so some fraud
activity taking place. All these allegations, Beckwick has denied them.
We're going to jump in with Rob Kendall in just
(13:46):
a second. I want to play audio of what Beckwit
said when he was on the campaign trail trying to
get elected to the role of lieutenant governor. Because it
is uniquely bad for someone that shopped himself as a
christ candidate, darn it as somebody who's a pastor too,
to have an allegation like this, you know, salacious like
(14:08):
this coming out of his office. Here's how Beckwith positioned
himself and Mike Brawn last year.
Speaker 3 (14:12):
And in Indiana specifically. I see if you look at
the Republican ticket versus the Democrat ticket, it's strength and
godly boldness versus just I would say, the Jezebel spirit
and just this idea of no boldness right this or
boldness for immorality, right.
Speaker 1 (14:34):
Not a good look to be someone who shopped himself
in that way to potentially have this again, something he
has very much denied. We bring in Rob Kendall of
Kendall and Casey because they reported on this story and
they interviewed someone who seemed to be in the know.
In the middle of September. Kendall's been on this for
a month and a half. Rob, Welcome to the program.
Speaker 5 (14:52):
Thank you, Craig. Pleasure to be with you as always.
Speaker 1 (14:54):
Thank you. Give us some more context, some more information,
whatever you know, whatever you can say, whatever might be
coming up on your show about the big the big
Beckwet story.
Speaker 6 (15:03):
Well, well look at this someone, Micah Beckwith is an
American greed character. That's the famous show on CNBC where
they do documentaries on con men, people who have conned people.
Now in this case, it's these people are out of money.
But that's what Micah Beckwit is. He's a con man. Look,
I hold these people accountable for a living out like
any of these people, and he even got me. He's
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very good at it, and he is a highly fraudulent individual.
He is a habitual liar. We've caught him in numerous
lies on this show, and this is the latest one,
which is so ridiculous. Everybody knew the Marion County Prosecutor's
office was looking into his office. Everybody knew that there
was this grand jury, and he kept up this ridiculous,
(15:48):
steadfast denial on it and doing this me so stupid routine.
And then they try to villainize people or look, a
grand jury does not mean an indictment. A grand jury
does not mean a conviction. No what he said, any
of those things were going to happen. We simply said
the obvious, which is I know numerous people who have
given information to the Marion County Prosecutor's office, and if
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I know about it, he certainly would know about it.
And even to this, I mean, the spokes guy had
just a ridiculous quote in the Indie Star when pressed
on it yesterday. The documents are out that this grand
jury exists, and they still won't come off it.
Speaker 1 (16:26):
It is insane to try to, you know, make this
go away via one denying it. Beck With yesterday again
denied it, said the video doesn't exist, He's never seen it,
nothing like that. You did an interview in September with
a former member of a Beckwitt's team where she described
the video in pretty significant detail. Do you want to
talk more about that at all, about any of the
(16:47):
things that people could go look up and see from
months ago? From the Kendall and Casey show that seemed
to obviously demonstrate that a video seems to exist very
much like the one described in this indictment. Yes, the indictment.
Speaker 6 (16:59):
Aaron Sheridan is her name. She was a senior advisor
to Mica beck With. They ran her out because she
kept look, Becka wanted to believe that government was the
wild West and he could do whatever he wanted to do,
and that's just not how it works. There are very
strict and stringent rules on how you have to operate
in state government, which I think is why this grand
jury in the Marion Kenny Prosecutor's office is now looking
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into his office. He didn't want to hear it, he
didn't want to believe it, so they ran her out
of there and back in April, she alleges, and look,
her story has never changed. I've talked to her multiple
times about this on air off air. The story has
never changed that after the I believe Who's your idol
is the name of the event that the next day
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or a couple days after, she was in the office
of the Lieutenant Governor and multiple individuals in that office.
She claims, we're viewing this AI pornography of State Representative
Craig Haggard's wife. She claims that those individuals, when she
objected to it, said that Micah was aware of the video,
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and then she claims afterwards she went to Sherry Ellis,
the chief of staff for the Lieutenant governor, and she
basically blew it off and did absolutely nothing about it.
Why would someone make that up all the things? If
you were like, I'm gonna take down the Lieutenant Governor's office,
that would be the thing you'd come with. I don't
even think it's actually a felony in Indiana. I think
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that the AI porn stuff is a misdemeanor. It is
laughable to think someone would concoct that story. Aaron has
said this, and it's absolutely true. She's a she'd been
state government for almost thirty years. She was a highly
respected person. She's a pariah. Now nobody's gonna hire her
because she's essentially a whistleblower.
Speaker 5 (18:42):
She told the truth. She won't be able to go back.
Speaker 6 (18:45):
It is insane to think someone would make that up
and make that up into that detail. And unlike Micah,
whose stories change all the time, her story has never changed.
Can I talk real quick about the importance of Micah's
stories change real quick, because this is very important. So
with Micah, like you don't saying if it's the truth,
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you never have to remember what you've told somebody. Here's
a great example of how the story keeps changing with Micah.
So he tried to claim the guy who broke the
story was Tom Lebianco. He's a freelance journalist from from
Maryland and in I think it was March, maybe April.
Lebianco's in town working on a piece on Micah, and
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he spends the whole day with him. He's in the car,
they go to these various events, they're they're they're very
clearly together for this entire day. And when the story breaks,
Micah goes on various outlets and tries to act like
he has no idea. Who love Labianco is h this
is you know this journalist, I don't know he is.
You spend a whole day with him. Then when he
(19:46):
gets pressed about how he found out about the AI
porn video, he goes, well, Lebianco called me when he
told me to contact me, and Tom Labianco, in an
official statement to our show, said no, that's absolutely not true.
Micah told me he found out about the video from
someone who was an employee in.
Speaker 5 (20:02):
The treasurer's office.
Speaker 6 (20:04):
And these may sound like little things, but it's a
pattern with Micah, just like how how did you end
up in Game three of the NBA Finals with a
high profile known felon. He can't tell a cohering, consistent story.
It's just one deception, one lie after another, over and
over and over again. And if you'll lie about the
little stuff, why would anybody not believe you're lying about
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the big stuff?
Speaker 1 (20:26):
Yeah? Are you guys going to cover this in more detail?
On Kendall and Casey today?
Speaker 5 (20:29):
All day, baby, all day.
Speaker 1 (20:31):
We give the people what they want, all right, fantasic.
I'm also curious about the ghost employee stuff that's been
talked about, And I know that's not necessarily something that
you and I discussed as much, but I'm wondering if
you guys will dive deeper into that too, because that's
just the basic fraud, you know, actual felony stuff. That
might also be a pretty significant accusation too.
Speaker 6 (20:50):
Yeah, and look, I don't know exactly what they're going
for or not going for. How the grand jury factors
into all of this. I know what some people have
told the prosecutor's office, and you know, I think they're
casting a very wide net and look the idea real quick.
(21:10):
And I know we're short of time, but this is
what MICA's orbit always does. They always make him out
to be a victim, no matter what the issue is.
When he gets called to the account that he demands
of others, they turn him into a victim. And I've
already seen it on this. Oh it's about his faith. Oh,
they're coming at him because he's vocal. No, has nothing
to do with this faith. The Marrion Kenny prosecutors. I
he's not gonna waste time with the grand jury and
all these effort and all these man hours because they're
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mad about some guy being vocal about his faith. They're
looking into this because there are very strict rules that
people who interstate government are supposed to abide by. And
if you don't abide by those rules, and everybody knows
when they walk in you all have ethics training, everything else,
then there are punishment for those actions. And they believe
at least there is some smoke to warrnan an investigation
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into whether multiple people in that office didn't follow the
rules as they're set forth. They're not doing anything wrong,
it's not gotcha, And maybe they'll ultimately find absolutely nothing.
But Micah beckw is a fraud. He's an habitual liar.
He has lied numerous times on this issue, and it
should be a giant red flag for everybody.
Speaker 1 (22:11):
Yeah. No, And I love the point that you make
that maybe they'll find nothing, not specific to this story,
but just in general, when people do these investigations, the
end result of finding nothing is always a possibility, which
makes you say, all right, I guess it's still worth
the time and effort if you think that we're not
going to find nothing, to go ahead and do it.
Kendall and Casey nine to noon, every single day right
here on ninety three WIBC. In about twenty minutes you'll
(22:33):
hear Rob Kendall and Casey Daniels. I'll cover this topic
all day, baby, I think is what you said, which
is fantastic. I'm sure some other funny stuff will creep
its way into as it does every day on that show,
Tonny Cats The Morning News, ninety three WIBC. My name
is Craig Collins, filling in thrilled to be with you.
I have Matt, you have Carl hangout as they do
(22:55):
every single morning, and of course Carl is playing a
TV theme song as part of our TV theme song
thing that we do at the end of every show
of every of Tony's shows. I got nothing.
Speaker 2 (23:04):
I know.
Speaker 1 (23:05):
I know that sounds like a very famous theme song.
I know, I know, dude, it's terrible. I could be
logged into the YouTube and check out you know what
the people are saying in chat.
Speaker 5 (23:14):
Yeah don't.
Speaker 1 (23:14):
I'm sure I could cheat right now. I'm not cheating.
I have no idea you have. I've never seen it. Okay,
I'm gonna use my lifeline, but I'll just say this,
I've never seen a single episode of the show that
has the theme song, even though it sounds real famous.
I'm at what you got.
Speaker 4 (23:27):
Usually I missed these because I'm not very good at
this game. But I know this one. This is maybe
my favorite old time team. It's one of the original
theme songs for Saturday Night Live.
Speaker 5 (23:38):
That's so good.
Speaker 4 (23:39):
I listen to that, John Belushi, dan Ackroy, This sounds
so Saturday Night, you know.
Speaker 1 (23:46):
And now I have to take it back. I've definitely
seen clips of Saturday Night Live with those people in it.
I've never seen a single entrance to that version of
the show.
Speaker 4 (23:53):
Doing the Trump dance on the camera right now.
Speaker 1 (23:55):
He here you go. Nice, that's fantastic. Yeah, you guys
still watch Saturday Live at all?
Speaker 5 (24:00):
Or no, no, no way, too late.
Speaker 1 (24:03):
Yes, it's quite too late.
Speaker 4 (24:04):
That's the problem that the word night is in the title,
So I'm out. Yeah, that's trouble.
Speaker 1 (24:08):
That's interesting. They still go viral occasionally some of the
stuff on there, and I found a video recently from
Saturday Night Live of the making fun of Beta Men,
which I thought was really funny and odd, and I
don't think they meant it to be humorous the way
I took it as humorous. But anyway, that's out there
for people that want it. But yeah, no, I didn't know,
and you can judge away when did that theme stop
getting used, Carl, you.
Speaker 6 (24:29):
Know, as soon as the original crew left, when Blushi, Ackroyd,
Gilder Radner.
Speaker 1 (24:36):
Was I alive yet or no?
Speaker 5 (24:40):
Good?
Speaker 1 (24:40):
Good good? I fantastic. I'm glad that I wasn't alive yet,
because again I've seen clips of that. I've never seen
it with those guys, before we get out of here,
a couple other just quick things that I thought were
kind of interesting today to talk about. Does anybody have
a Halloween costume planned at all?
Speaker 5 (24:56):
Or No?
Speaker 1 (24:57):
No, we're not doing anything, you guys. You're not going
to dress up. You'll be at work on Friday. No
one's throwing something on for the camera.
Speaker 4 (25:04):
I had one idea, and unfortunately I need a child
for this, and I'm not a father. I was going
to dress up. I wanted to dress up as Ozzie Osbourne. Yeah,
and the child be the bat. I got it, and
I thought that would have been fun to go trigger
treat hilarious.
Speaker 5 (25:20):
Yeah, I thought you were going to like bite the
ear off the child. Well, listen, it's a performance hard man, right.
Speaker 1 (25:26):
You gotta do it.
Speaker 4 (25:27):
It's your lockhand can sell a bit, baby. But I
could just imagine that we would both just be bandits
and just trash bags full of candy, because that's.
Speaker 5 (25:37):
What Halloween's all about. It is to candy.
Speaker 4 (25:39):
And I've never taken advantage of having children and getting
all their candy. Whenever Halloween's over, you know you got
a sample a candy bar man, make sure they're healthy.
Speaker 1 (25:47):
You know that is a great point that you and
I miss out on year after year as guys without kids,
is the fact that I don't get to have candy
without having to embarrass myself into attempting to trick or treat,
which I can't do. I'm a I'm going to be
a forty year old man on Halloween. It is my birthday.
I am breaking the four to zero barrier in forty
eight hours. And a lot of people of me, thanks Carl.
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A lot of people have made jokes about me, you know,
dressing up as a much older version of myself, like
putting on, you know, a bunch of fake wrinkles and
saying that that's what I look like now, which is me,
like forty is not eighty, But they want me to
act that way.
Speaker 4 (26:23):
I guess, well, that's not going to be funny in
five years because that, yeah, that stuff's going to actually
be there, the wrinkles and all that.
Speaker 5 (26:32):
Listen.
Speaker 4 (26:32):
Yeah, it's a good time. And by the way, welcome
to the over the Hill Club.
Speaker 1 (26:35):
Thanks.
Speaker 4 (26:36):
It's not near as bad.
Speaker 5 (26:37):
As everybody says it is. It's just life.
Speaker 4 (26:38):
And you know, we know, we know when we go
over forty because for some reason it's some sort of
major milestone because it cours like the halfway point as
far as life expectancy. But didn't we get this feeling
when we turned thirty? Yes, when we turned twenty five,
thirty five, I mean thirty six. Every single birthday for me,
I get this feeling like there's this new benchmark cloth
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such you know, expiration.
Speaker 5 (27:02):
I mean, it's just the guy of the beholder. What
life are you live?
Speaker 4 (27:04):
Man? You know, and you live with a good life.
So I'm happy for you. Welcome to forty.
Speaker 1 (27:08):
Thank you, buddy. I'm not sure. My favorite thing is
that I still have a lot of like high school
friends on social media on Facebook, and I saw one
of them go viral, at least within our friendship group.
I think that a lot of us commented on it
crying before she woke up the next day, forty, I'm
not going to do that. I'm not going to go
to bed weeping. I'm not going to out Chantelle. I
just did as somebody who did what she did. She
(27:29):
was very upset about it, and then you wake up
the next day just fine.
Speaker 5 (27:32):
Well the respect, what's going to happen?
Speaker 4 (27:34):
I mean, forty, and I understand you know that you
get into the forties and fifties women go through significant changes,
and God bless them for that.
Speaker 5 (27:41):
But what's the rollover to forty? That's other.
Speaker 1 (27:44):
You did never want it, Okay. I remember in the
video that we all commented on, she was crying and
said she just didn't want it to happen. She wanted
to wake up and not be four. She still wanted
a three in front of that number per name. It
doesn't work that way, sorry to say it. Yeah, sorry
about that, all right, guys. It's been fun as always.
Great job. Sounded very similar to Matt and Craig excellent podcast.
A wonderful thing out there that you can check out
(28:06):
on iv w IVC dot com.
Speaker 5 (28:08):
It's the
Tony Katz in the Morning News ninety three WIBC. My
name is Craig Collins. Filling in in about half an
hour a little bit less than that, we will have
Rob Kendall join us. From Kendall and Casey, how to
talk about this crazy story coming out of the Lieutenant
Governor's office and the potential that there was a deep
fake video that got passed around that involved the wife
(00:31):
of another state politician and then also now like a
ghost employee or ghost employees. I mean, there might have
been like you know, embezzling and all kinds of fraud
taking place. Before I do anything else, though, I'll play
some of which TV our TV partner's coverage of the
announcement that a grand jury is investigating Indiana Lieutenant Governor
Micah Beck with and some of these allegations Micah has
(00:53):
obviously denied them, which is actually also in this coverage here.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
Here in County Crossleader's office confirms a grand jury is
investigating the office of the Lieutenant governor. Court document show
a grand jury met twice to discuss allegations of distribution
of an intimate image and ghost employment. The panel took
testimony both times, but did not make any decisions. Document
show the investigation is into the office, not necessarily the
(01:18):
Lieutenant Governor himself. Lieutenant Governor Micah Beckwith briefly addressed the
allegations this afternoon.
Speaker 3 (01:26):
That story is so false that there's no proof. There's
no evidence. We've never seen anything like that, never happened
in my office. But if there is, I mean there
can be grand jury investigations for all kinds of things.
We don't know. We haven't been privy to that information.
Speaker 1 (01:39):
They'll be all right, I got to stab right there.
The biggest reason that it'll be interesting to talk to
Rob Kendall of Kendall and Casey is because of the
interview he did with Aaron Sheridan back in the middle
of September. And in that interview, Aaron, who is a
former senior advisor to Indiana Lieutenant Governor Micah beck With,
described the video, the video that is now allegedly a
thing that existed, described getting handed a phone and seeing
(02:04):
the video and being confused by why the staffers all
thought it was so funny and that it was the
wife of a state representative. This is something that Kendall
and Casey have been on for a while now that
has a much bigger, say, a footprint in Indiana news
media because of the potential investigations and everything else going
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on with a grand jury, and we don't know everything.
A lot of stuff is sealed still. But if anybody
knows anything else about this, I feel like it's going
to be Rob Kendall. So we're going to have him
on in about twenty five minutes or so to discuss
this in greater detail. But these allegations are pretty damaging
and fairly awful and one other thing, and it almost
feels mean. I'm not trying to be mean, I'm just
(02:47):
trying to be honest. Is flashing back to anything that
Beckwith said when he was running for the office of
Lieutenant governor, as you know, a part of a ticket
with the governor in Beckwith saying that he was the
religious choice. He was a choice for someone who believed
in things like God, or believed in things like of
course a pastor and all those other things that beckw is.
(03:10):
So this story specifically out of that office even more so,
feels like it's going to be a dominant news headline
for that reason because the individual sold himself as someone
that's a person of faith. And again, none of this
is confirmed. All these are allegations. I need to make
that abundantly clear. And I'm not pretending as though I
know the truth is different than what we know publicly
(03:30):
right now. But I at least do know that WIBC
has done an incredible job in covering this. And once
again I'm gonna pat him on the back one more time,
Kendall and Casey, both of them, Casey Daniel two in
having this story a month ago before it became more
of a dominant topic now, and I'm sure they'll have
an even deeper dive and excellent coverage of it, you know,
in just a few hours on this station as well.
(03:51):
All Right, quick break, A lot coming up. Craig Collins
filling in, Tony Kat's The Morning News ninety three WIBC. Tony,
It's the Morning News ninety three WIBC. My name is
Craig Collins filling in. That is Matt Bear, that is
Carl Showbiz hanging out on the show as well as
they do every single morning on this program. You can
(04:12):
hear Matt on the Matt and Craig Excellent Podcast if
you want to check that out. WIBC dot com. It's great.
The co host is pretty good too, the guy who
is on that show with brilliant Thank you, buddy, thank you.
I thought this was interesting, and it's probably a Matt
and Craig Excellent Podcast type of topic, so it might
come up at some point on our show. But there's
something that's slowly going away, although I probably shouldn't even
(04:33):
say slowly, it seems to be very quickly going away
to a certain extent. What could that be? Pickup lines?
Guys don't use pickup lines anymore, according to the internets,
because they're afraid that women will be offended by them
or take them poorly. So the tried and true version
of hitting on somebody when you were in a certain generation,
say the gen xers out there, the Baby boomers, even
(04:55):
some millennials, is no longer a thing that a lot
of people rely on anymore. You don't walk up to
a young woman and say certain things to her and
hope that it goes well, Like I've lost my phone number?
Can I have yours? Apparently that's not something you do anymore,
that's what he got of it.
Speaker 4 (05:08):
Well, No, this is the best news I've heard in
a long time. I've always been bad at pick them lines,
and it's always I don't slide into dms because of it.
I don't have anything clever to say. I'm awful with
small talk. I have a lot of I'm very flawed
when it comes to hitting on women. I hate admitting that,
but I U I used one once back in my
previous life, my party days, and it was I just
(05:30):
started doing traffic. And I think I've said this on
this show before, but I used to say, hey, do
you want to get to know an Indianapolis media footnote?
And to me that was funny and to her it
was not. Ever that one time I tried it and
I stopped trying it after that, but pickup lines, I
always felt like I was being cheesy and something insincere
(05:52):
and a very sincere moment. And this sounds so not manly.
Everything saying right now the true, but it's totally the truth.
Speaker 1 (06:01):
By the way, I totally thought you were going to
have like a traffic related pickup line, like are you
a parking ticket because you have fine written all over
you something like that. I thought that's what you were
going to do.
Speaker 5 (06:11):
Oh, I love that you take it. You can use
it if you want split No, I got.
Speaker 1 (06:19):
Well done. I got to be honest, though. Man, Like,
I think that the type of people that would be
amused by this are the kinds of people that you
might want to date. And so like, part of me
always like to use the pickup line a in a
place like a bar or something, and definitely do it
in a cheesy and silly way and maybe a somewhat
risk way, because you wanted someone to look at you
and laugh and not like look at you and think
(06:40):
that you're a horrible person for it, and that kind
of helps weed out the ladies as much as it
does anything else. So like, I think it's sad that
the pickup line is most interactions face to face are
going away. I've heard a lot of people. I actually
witnessed this the other day. I was at a restaurant
and this guy and girl had bumped into each other
who didn't really know each other very much, but they
(07:01):
must they must have somehow known each other at least
a little bit. And as the guy's walking away, he
asked her for her Instagram. He didn't ask her for
a phone number or anything else. He's like, can I
get your insta and she's like, Oh, sure, that's so
dumb that that's a thing that they do now to
try to hit on each other via the social media
apps and not you know, just freaking text or call
this person and try to have a relationship that way.
Speaker 4 (07:20):
I'm going to walk up to a forty year old
woman and say, hey, can I have your snaps?
Speaker 5 (07:27):
Old, That's going to be my life.
Speaker 1 (07:28):
Thank you, Carl.
Speaker 4 (07:29):
There you go, that's going to be my line. Yeah,
let's trade snapchats here. Let's be honest about this. It
doesn't matter what you say in the moment. If she's
attracted to you, she's gonna laugh. I mean, as long
as it's not foul or something entirely blue or you know,
referencing something you.
Speaker 5 (07:47):
Know you got, you gotta be kind of cool about it.
Speaker 4 (07:49):
I guess you still have to be clever. But if
she thinks you look good or you know, in the
case of a bar, if she's had a drink or two,
she's going to be attracted to you.
Speaker 5 (07:57):
It's like sending a gift.
Speaker 4 (07:58):
If you send a gift to a woman who's not
attracted to you, you're creepy as hell.
Speaker 5 (08:03):
But if she's into you, it's flattering. You know.
Speaker 4 (08:05):
It all depends on her perception, man, and that's what
you have to keep in mind when you do this stuff.
Speaker 1 (08:09):
Well, yeah, that's fair, cool with it now. I think
the biggest concern is that you go viral because someone
says you're a creep. I think that's the only difference
I do, honestly, I think that's the only difference now
and before. Like, if you swing and miss and there's
not Facebook, you don't wind up having like a woman
who's upset with you potentially go viral on the Internet
complaining about you with video. That would just be like
(08:30):
I hit on that girl at the grocery store and
it didn't work out. We'll never see each other again.
But now, the fact that there's a staying power behind it,
I might be part of the reason we see less.
Speaker 5 (08:38):
But I don't know.
Speaker 4 (08:39):
Well, he can't hit on the woman at the grocery store.
That's I mean, I go, who can you hit off?
We'll work at Jim grocery store. So now I'm down,
like to game.
Speaker 1 (08:50):
Yeah, I can't hit on you while you're buying a cucumber.
What can I do? Darn it?
Speaker 4 (08:56):
But think about it, you know, I mean, what business
do I have hitting on a woman who's already looks
thirty years younger than me at a grocery store. Yes,
I'm single, Yes I have no kids, but seeing this woman,
I mean, I already am down half a point with
my age. So maybe a online thing is already watched
your age.
Speaker 5 (09:14):
Would you not? But it doesn't matter, I don't. Let's
think about it.
Speaker 4 (09:17):
When you were twenty three and you knew you could
date twenty three year old woman, what did you want
to do? You wanted to date twenty three year old women,
you weren't thinking about A woman at that age is
not thinking, man. I wish a forty seven year old
man would come up and hit on me. Will never
since after a long day, Oh my god. Right over
there are getting ready to cook raw chicken on his
form and grill.
Speaker 5 (09:38):
That's what they're thinking.
Speaker 1 (09:39):
I don't know, man. The other twenty three year old guys,
I'll live at home. They don't. They live with mom
and dad, right, So there's a shot that they're looking
for somebody a little bit older. By the way, one
other thing out there, just to shift gears from our
giving a dating advice and me continuing to do band
pickup lines on the radio. Apparently the makers of a
product that went viral a while ago. This was breast
(10:00):
milk ice cream. I don't know if I ever talked
about that on the show. It's not actually made of
the thing. It's supposed to be reminiscent of the thing. It's,
you know, an artificial version of it. They've now come
out with booger candy. They say that it doesn't actually
taste Yep, it's real. They say it doesn't actually taste
like like burgers, Thank you, Carl. They say it doesn't
(10:22):
actually taste like it, but it looks like it, it
feels like it, and you know, you can give it
to kids for Halloween. This would be the than This
would be the worst thing you ever give a child,
because you don't want to encourage them to do the
real version of finding some of these on their own.
Speaker 4 (10:36):
What you got on this one, Well, I was thinking
while you were telling that, what the hell we're doing
with booger candy? I mean, and it's going to be like,
this doesn't even taste like boogers. This isn't the real thing.
This is imitation. Yeah, this is that thing that they
put in things that make it last two months longer.
Whatever that protein or that thing is. I kids would
(10:57):
love it. This is something you give kids a Halloween, right,
you hand out candy and that you're the house of
the night. Everybody's like, oh, I got booger candy from
the Bear House. I mean that that could be fun.
But I said that, I what's the use of it?
What are we doing with it?
Speaker 5 (11:10):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (11:10):
That's the hell of a sentence. By the way, I
got the booger candy from the Bear House. Like, if
I didn't know the way you spelled your name, I'd
be like, what'd you do?
Speaker 5 (11:18):
Where'd you go?
Speaker 1 (11:20):
It's but yeah, I think it's interesting too. I would
be upset as a parent if my kid got booger candy,
because I'm like, what are you trying to do? Make
them pick their nose, make them get bullied in school?
Like make them yeah, turn that road.
Speaker 5 (11:31):
Gohe there is?
Speaker 1 (11:33):
Yeah, I don't encourage. No, it's just like the smoking candy,
although I love the candy cigarettes as a kid. What's
the avenue there? It's to eventually I think smoke a
pack of Day that was.
Speaker 4 (11:43):
Up to like the avenue was to sue the candy
manufacturer because I exactly I smoked for twenty years because
of those candy cigarettes, and damn it, what my money?
You know?
Speaker 1 (11:51):
Yeah, I was up to three packs of candy cigarette
to day. Man, I mean still, what was I gonna do? Yeah,
you just had to keep going. I had to go
to the grocery store. Actually, it was a liquor store
near my house as a child that I went to
to buy candy cigarettes. That's a real thing that happened
to me as a kid.
Speaker 4 (12:05):
Does your mom make you go in a store to
buy cigarettes?
Speaker 5 (12:07):
Ever?
Speaker 1 (12:08):
No? Not once. No, she hit she pretended she wasn't
still smoking when we were little kids.
Speaker 5 (12:13):
My mom did too.
Speaker 4 (12:14):
Absolutely, yeah, I caught her. I caught her one time
and then I started smoking.
Speaker 1 (12:18):
Dude, I did too. My mom would not want me
to tell this whole story on the radio, so I'll
probably only tell you know a short version of it.
But I found a pack of cigarettes in mom's desk
drawer at her work when I was like a teenager,
and I was like, Mom, come on, it's been so
long now, I thought you gave this up, and she's like,
I took it from someone else. It wasn't mine. I
learned it from you, and I was like, ahhah, sure, yeah,
(12:42):
but yes, I think that was a thing. For the
most part, I think my mom did kick that habit though,
which I imagine is hard to do and probably something
that happens a lot if you have kids. All of
a sudden you're like, I can't smoke anymore because there's
small babies around me. Thank year ago, I praised her.
I tried to praise her. At the end, they're met,
how we should take a break? A lot coming up
on the show, Matt Scott Traffick for you. This Craig
(13:02):
Collins filling in on ton Kats The Morning News, Tony
Kats in the Morning News ninety three WIBC. My name
is Craig Collins, filling in on and off. I've been
talking about the big story involving Micah Beckwith's office, the
Lieutenant Governor, reported on by WISH TV and a bunch
of other places yesterday. A grand jury a couple times
and I think August and September has contemplated, discussed, and
(13:26):
a lot of it has sealed certain potential charges allegations
about both a deep fake video that might have been
passed around by members of Beckwit's office and then also
potentially some ghost employees at least one, so some fraud
activity taking place. All these allegations, Beckwick has denied them.
We're going to jump in with Rob Kendall in just
(13:46):
a second. I want to play audio of what Beckwit
said when he was on the campaign trail trying to
get elected to the role of lieutenant governor. Because it
is uniquely bad for someone that shopped himself as a
christ candidate, darn it as somebody who's a pastor too,
to have an allegation like this, you know, salacious like
(14:08):
this coming out of his office. Here's how Beckwith positioned
himself and Mike Brawn last year.
Speaker 3 (14:12):
And in Indiana specifically. I see if you look at
the Republican ticket versus the Democrat ticket, it's strength and
godly boldness versus just I would say, the Jezebel spirit
and just this idea of no boldness right this or
boldness for immorality, right.
Speaker 1 (14:34):
Not a good look to be someone who shopped himself
in that way to potentially have this again, something he
has very much denied. We bring in Rob Kendall of
Kendall and Casey because they reported on this story and
they interviewed someone who seemed to be in the know.
In the middle of September. Kendall's been on this for
a month and a half. Rob, Welcome to the program.
Speaker 5 (14:52):
Thank you, Craig. Pleasure to be with you as always.
Speaker 1 (14:54):
Thank you. Give us some more context, some more information,
whatever you know, whatever you can say, whatever might be
coming up on your show about the big the big
Beckwet story.
Speaker 6 (15:03):
Well, well look at this someone, Micah Beckwith is an
American greed character. That's the famous show on CNBC where
they do documentaries on con men, people who have conned people.
Now in this case, it's these people are out of money.
But that's what Micah Beckwit is. He's a con man. Look,
I hold these people accountable for a living out like
any of these people, and he even got me. He's
(15:25):
very good at it, and he is a highly fraudulent individual.
He is a habitual liar. We've caught him in numerous
lies on this show, and this is the latest one,
which is so ridiculous. Everybody knew the Marion County Prosecutor's
office was looking into his office. Everybody knew that there
was this grand jury, and he kept up this ridiculous,
(15:48):
steadfast denial on it and doing this me so stupid routine.
And then they try to villainize people or look, a
grand jury does not mean an indictment. A grand jury
does not mean a conviction. No what he said, any
of those things were going to happen. We simply said
the obvious, which is I know numerous people who have
given information to the Marion County Prosecutor's office, and if
(16:11):
I know about it, he certainly would know about it.
And even to this, I mean, the spokes guy had
just a ridiculous quote in the Indie Star when pressed
on it yesterday. The documents are out that this grand
jury exists, and they still won't come off it.
Speaker 1 (16:26):
It is insane to try to, you know, make this
go away via one denying it. Beck With yesterday again
denied it, said the video doesn't exist, He's never seen it,
nothing like that. You did an interview in September with
a former member of a Beckwitt's team where she described
the video in pretty significant detail. Do you want to
talk more about that at all, about any of the
(16:47):
things that people could go look up and see from
months ago? From the Kendall and Casey show that seemed
to obviously demonstrate that a video seems to exist very
much like the one described in this indictment. Yes, the indictment.
Speaker 6 (16:59):
Aaron Sheridan is her name. She was a senior advisor
to Mica beck With. They ran her out because she
kept look, Becka wanted to believe that government was the
wild West and he could do whatever he wanted to do,
and that's just not how it works. There are very
strict and stringent rules on how you have to operate
in state government, which I think is why this grand
jury in the Marion Kenny Prosecutor's office is now looking
(17:20):
into his office. He didn't want to hear it, he
didn't want to believe it, so they ran her out
of there and back in April, she alleges, and look,
her story has never changed. I've talked to her multiple
times about this on air off air. The story has
never changed that after the I believe Who's your idol
is the name of the event that the next day
(17:41):
or a couple days after, she was in the office
of the Lieutenant Governor and multiple individuals in that office.
She claims, we're viewing this AI pornography of State Representative
Craig Haggard's wife. She claims that those individuals, when she
objected to it, said that Micah was aware of the video,
(18:03):
and then she claims afterwards she went to Sherry Ellis,
the chief of staff for the Lieutenant governor, and she
basically blew it off and did absolutely nothing about it.
Why would someone make that up all the things? If
you were like, I'm gonna take down the Lieutenant Governor's office,
that would be the thing you'd come with. I don't
even think it's actually a felony in Indiana. I think
(18:24):
that the AI porn stuff is a misdemeanor. It is
laughable to think someone would concoct that story. Aaron has
said this, and it's absolutely true. She's a she'd been
state government for almost thirty years. She was a highly
respected person. She's a pariah. Now nobody's gonna hire her
because she's essentially a whistleblower.
Speaker 5 (18:42):
She told the truth. She won't be able to go back.
Speaker 6 (18:45):
It is insane to think someone would make that up
and make that up into that detail. And unlike Micah,
whose stories change all the time, her story has never changed.
Can I talk real quick about the importance of Micah's
stories change real quick, because this is very important. So
with Micah, like you don't saying if it's the truth,
(19:05):
you never have to remember what you've told somebody. Here's
a great example of how the story keeps changing with Micah.
So he tried to claim the guy who broke the
story was Tom Lebianco. He's a freelance journalist from from
Maryland and in I think it was March, maybe April.
Lebianco's in town working on a piece on Micah, and
(19:25):
he spends the whole day with him. He's in the car,
they go to these various events, they're they're they're very
clearly together for this entire day. And when the story breaks,
Micah goes on various outlets and tries to act like
he has no idea. Who love Labianco is h this
is you know this journalist, I don't know he is.
You spend a whole day with him. Then when he
(19:46):
gets pressed about how he found out about the AI
porn video, he goes, well, Lebianco called me when he
told me to contact me, and Tom Labianco, in an
official statement to our show, said no, that's absolutely not true.
Micah told me he found out about the video from
someone who was an employee in.
Speaker 5 (20:02):
The treasurer's office.
Speaker 6 (20:04):
And these may sound like little things, but it's a
pattern with Micah, just like how how did you end
up in Game three of the NBA Finals with a
high profile known felon. He can't tell a cohering, consistent story.
It's just one deception, one lie after another, over and
over and over again. And if you'll lie about the
little stuff, why would anybody not believe you're lying about
(20:25):
the big stuff?
Speaker 1 (20:26):
Yeah? Are you guys going to cover this in more detail?
On Kendall and Casey today?
Speaker 5 (20:29):
All day, baby, all day.
Speaker 1 (20:31):
We give the people what they want, all right, fantasic.
I'm also curious about the ghost employee stuff that's been
talked about, And I know that's not necessarily something that
you and I discussed as much, but I'm wondering if
you guys will dive deeper into that too, because that's
just the basic fraud, you know, actual felony stuff. That
might also be a pretty significant accusation too.
Speaker 6 (20:50):
Yeah, and look, I don't know exactly what they're going
for or not going for. How the grand jury factors
into all of this. I know what some people have
told the prosecutor's office, and you know, I think they're
casting a very wide net and look the idea real quick.
(21:10):
And I know we're short of time, but this is
what MICA's orbit always does. They always make him out
to be a victim, no matter what the issue is.
When he gets called to the account that he demands
of others, they turn him into a victim. And I've
already seen it on this. Oh it's about his faith. Oh,
they're coming at him because he's vocal. No, has nothing
to do with this faith. The Marrion Kenny prosecutors. I
he's not gonna waste time with the grand jury and
all these effort and all these man hours because they're
(21:31):
mad about some guy being vocal about his faith. They're
looking into this because there are very strict rules that
people who interstate government are supposed to abide by. And
if you don't abide by those rules, and everybody knows
when they walk in you all have ethics training, everything else,
then there are punishment for those actions. And they believe
at least there is some smoke to warrnan an investigation
(21:52):
into whether multiple people in that office didn't follow the
rules as they're set forth. They're not doing anything wrong,
it's not gotcha, And maybe they'll ultimately find absolutely nothing.
But Micah beckw is a fraud. He's an habitual liar.
He has lied numerous times on this issue, and it
should be a giant red flag for everybody.
Speaker 1 (22:11):
Yeah. No, And I love the point that you make
that maybe they'll find nothing, not specific to this story,
but just in general, when people do these investigations, the
end result of finding nothing is always a possibility, which
makes you say, all right, I guess it's still worth
the time and effort if you think that we're not
going to find nothing, to go ahead and do it.
Kendall and Casey nine to noon, every single day right
here on ninety three WIBC. In about twenty minutes you'll
(22:33):
hear Rob Kendall and Casey Daniels. I'll cover this topic
all day, baby, I think is what you said, which
is fantastic. I'm sure some other funny stuff will creep
its way into as it does every day on that show,
Tonny Cats The Morning News, ninety three WIBC. My name
is Craig Collins, filling in thrilled to be with you.
I have Matt, you have Carl hangout as they do
(22:55):
every single morning, and of course Carl is playing a
TV theme song as part of our TV theme song
thing that we do at the end of every show
of every of Tony's shows. I got nothing.
Speaker 2 (23:04):
I know.
Speaker 1 (23:05):
I know that sounds like a very famous theme song.
I know, I know, dude, it's terrible. I could be
logged into the YouTube and check out you know what
the people are saying in chat.
Speaker 5 (23:14):
Yeah don't.
Speaker 1 (23:14):
I'm sure I could cheat right now. I'm not cheating.
I have no idea you have. I've never seen it. Okay,
I'm gonna use my lifeline, but I'll just say this,
I've never seen a single episode of the show that
has the theme song, even though it sounds real famous.
I'm at what you got.
Speaker 4 (23:27):
Usually I missed these because I'm not very good at
this game. But I know this one. This is maybe
my favorite old time team. It's one of the original
theme songs for Saturday Night Live.
Speaker 5 (23:38):
That's so good.
Speaker 4 (23:39):
I listen to that, John Belushi, dan Ackroy, This sounds
so Saturday Night, you know.
Speaker 1 (23:46):
And now I have to take it back. I've definitely
seen clips of Saturday Night Live with those people in it.
I've never seen a single entrance to that version of
the show.
Speaker 4 (23:53):
Doing the Trump dance on the camera right now.
Speaker 1 (23:55):
He here you go. Nice, that's fantastic. Yeah, you guys
still watch Saturday Live at all?
Speaker 5 (24:00):
Or no, no, no way, too late.
Speaker 1 (24:03):
Yes, it's quite too late.
Speaker 4 (24:04):
That's the problem that the word night is in the title,
So I'm out. Yeah, that's trouble.
Speaker 1 (24:08):
That's interesting. They still go viral occasionally some of the
stuff on there, and I found a video recently from
Saturday Night Live of the making fun of Beta Men,
which I thought was really funny and odd, and I
don't think they meant it to be humorous the way
I took it as humorous. But anyway, that's out there
for people that want it. But yeah, no, I didn't know,
and you can judge away when did that theme stop
getting used, Carl, you.
Speaker 6 (24:29):
Know, as soon as the original crew left, when Blushi, Ackroyd,
Gilder Radner.
Speaker 1 (24:36):
Was I alive yet or no?
Speaker 5 (24:40):
Good?
Speaker 1 (24:40):
Good good? I fantastic. I'm glad that I wasn't alive yet,
because again I've seen clips of that. I've never seen
it with those guys, before we get out of here,
a couple other just quick things that I thought were
kind of interesting today to talk about. Does anybody have
a Halloween costume planned at all?
Speaker 5 (24:56):
Or No?
Speaker 1 (24:57):
No, we're not doing anything, you guys. You're not going
to dress up. You'll be at work on Friday. No
one's throwing something on for the camera.
Speaker 4 (25:04):
I had one idea, and unfortunately I need a child
for this, and I'm not a father. I was going
to dress up. I wanted to dress up as Ozzie Osbourne. Yeah,
and the child be the bat. I got it, and
I thought that would have been fun to go trigger
treat hilarious.
Speaker 5 (25:20):
Yeah, I thought you were going to like bite the
ear off the child. Well, listen, it's a performance hard man, right.
Speaker 1 (25:26):
You gotta do it.
Speaker 4 (25:27):
It's your lockhand can sell a bit, baby. But I
could just imagine that we would both just be bandits
and just trash bags full of candy, because that's.
Speaker 5 (25:37):
What Halloween's all about. It is to candy.
Speaker 4 (25:39):
And I've never taken advantage of having children and getting
all their candy. Whenever Halloween's over, you know you got
a sample a candy bar man, make sure they're healthy.
Speaker 1 (25:47):
You know that is a great point that you and
I miss out on year after year as guys without kids,
is the fact that I don't get to have candy
without having to embarrass myself into attempting to trick or treat,
which I can't do. I'm a I'm going to be
a forty year old man on Halloween. It is my birthday.
I am breaking the four to zero barrier in forty
eight hours. And a lot of people of me, thanks Carl.
(26:11):
A lot of people have made jokes about me, you know,
dressing up as a much older version of myself, like
putting on, you know, a bunch of fake wrinkles and
saying that that's what I look like now, which is me,
like forty is not eighty, But they want me to
act that way.
Speaker 4 (26:23):
I guess, well, that's not going to be funny in
five years because that, yeah, that stuff's going to actually
be there, the wrinkles and all that.
Speaker 5 (26:32):
Listen.
Speaker 4 (26:32):
Yeah, it's a good time. And by the way, welcome
to the over the Hill Club.
Speaker 1 (26:35):
Thanks.
Speaker 4 (26:36):
It's not near as bad.
Speaker 5 (26:37):
As everybody says it is. It's just life.
Speaker 4 (26:38):
And you know, we know, we know when we go
over forty because for some reason it's some sort of
major milestone because it cours like the halfway point as
far as life expectancy. But didn't we get this feeling
when we turned thirty? Yes, when we turned twenty five,
thirty five, I mean thirty six. Every single birthday for me,
I get this feeling like there's this new benchmark cloth
(27:00):
such you know, expiration.
Speaker 5 (27:02):
I mean, it's just the guy of the beholder. What
life are you live?
Speaker 4 (27:04):
Man? You know, and you live with a good life.
So I'm happy for you. Welcome to forty.
Speaker 1 (27:08):
Thank you, buddy. I'm not sure. My favorite thing is
that I still have a lot of like high school
friends on social media on Facebook, and I saw one
of them go viral, at least within our friendship group.
I think that a lot of us commented on it
crying before she woke up the next day, forty, I'm
not going to do that. I'm not going to go
to bed weeping. I'm not going to out Chantelle. I
just did as somebody who did what she did. She
(27:29):
was very upset about it, and then you wake up
the next day just fine.
Speaker 5 (27:32):
Well the respect, what's going to happen?
Speaker 4 (27:34):
I mean, forty, and I understand you know that you
get into the forties and fifties women go through significant changes,
and God bless them for that.
Speaker 5 (27:41):
But what's the rollover to forty? That's other.
Speaker 1 (27:44):
You did never want it, Okay. I remember in the
video that we all commented on, she was crying and
said she just didn't want it to happen. She wanted
to wake up and not be four. She still wanted
a three in front of that number per name. It
doesn't work that way, sorry to say it. Yeah, sorry
about that, all right, guys. It's been fun as always.
Great job. Sounded very similar to Matt and Craig excellent podcast.
A wonderful thing out there that you can check out
(28:06):
on iv w IVC dot com.
Speaker 5 (28:08):
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