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November 4, 2025 • 23 mins

Trump endorses Democrat Cuomo for NYC Mayor. Chris Matthews: "The country is moving towards Trump. King Trump forced to pay partial SNAP benefits. Dick Cheney dead at 84. Dem Mitch Gore Opinion piece in the IndyStar. Indiana lawmakers set mid-cycle redistricting work for December 

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Speaker 1 (00:12):
So election day in New Jersey, election day in Virginia,
election day in New York and California, they're going to
vote on Prop fifty to redistrict something that I think
the Republicans are trying to put on.

Speaker 2 (00:24):
A shelf here moving the special session.

Speaker 1 (00:28):
Oh no, no, we'll get to it when we get
to it's not actually moving it. It's just not addressing
it with any level of importance. That's what it looks like.
And for a while yesterday I'm like, are they are
they puntings us over? You know, you win some, you
lose some. I spend some more time on it.

Speaker 2 (00:49):
I'll give you my thoughts.

Speaker 1 (00:50):
Coming up to Tony Katz ninety three WIBC, Good morning,
What is going down? President Trump endorsing Andrew Cuomo, former
mayor of New York, saying, basically, you have to guys,
look at mam Donnie.

Speaker 2 (01:04):
I mean, come on, come on. That's that's basically what
Donald Trump said.

Speaker 1 (01:15):
It's a pretty ugly world where you have to vote
for Andrew Cuomo for things to be better.

Speaker 2 (01:22):
He killed grandma, see one guy.

Speaker 1 (01:27):
We know what he did in the past with mom Donnie.
We know what he's gonna do in the future. Either way,
Grandma's going down. That's that is basically the New York moment.
And Curtis Sleewa the Republican's like what about me? And
everyone's saying what about you? I mean, that is the reality.

(01:48):
If you take a look at the latest polling. If
Curtis Slee what was not in the race? Cuomo wins this. No,
I don't like Andrew Cuomo.

Speaker 2 (01:57):
Andrew Cuomo is a disgusting human being.

Speaker 1 (02:00):
And only in New York does a guy like him
get a second act. Also, only going up against someone
as absolutely horrific as Mom, Donnie.

Speaker 2 (02:09):
Now you say to me, horrific, Tony, what has he done? Well?

Speaker 1 (02:12):
I think people who advocate defunding the police are pretty horrific.
I think people who hang around with those on the
terror watch list and engage in the levels of bigotry
that they do are pretty horrific. I think he himself,
in his own comments, pretty horrific. I think this idea
of well, we're gonna own all the grocery stores. No,

(02:33):
they're not gonna own all the grocery stores, Tony, They're
just gonna have city run bodegas.

Speaker 2 (02:38):
Well that's gonna go great. That's gonna go.

Speaker 1 (02:41):
Who is going to stop them from being robbed when
he defunds the police.

Speaker 2 (02:46):
You know what, I don't need to do anymore. I
think I'm well covered on the subject.

Speaker 1 (02:50):
You've got the New Jersey governor race, you have the
Virginia governor race, and of course Prop fifty in California.
These are the big four that people will be watching for.

Speaker 2 (03:00):
I might live stream it tonight.

Speaker 1 (03:03):
I might just throw on a camera and put my
feet up, grab a bourbon and just watch the insanity.

Speaker 2 (03:11):
Probably, so look for that.

Speaker 1 (03:13):
I'll share on the social media's at at tonycats dot com.

Speaker 2 (03:16):
If I'm doing it, maybe you'll join.

Speaker 1 (03:19):
Maybe you'll just want to see the end of a
great city too well.

Speaker 2 (03:23):
New York has been great for a long time.

Speaker 1 (03:25):
The end of a once great city, the end of
a city where Frankndino used to hang out, like it'll
be just that, and then we'll plan our trips to
go now before it all collapses, and.

Speaker 2 (03:37):
It'll be good.

Speaker 1 (03:39):
Meanwhile, we have to worry about the collapse of Indianapolis,
which is not happening today. But how we vote matters greatly,
and every time a communist like Mom Donnie wins. A
communist like Jesse Brown.

Speaker 2 (03:52):
Goes ooh, what's possible.

Speaker 1 (03:55):
Yeah, Tony Katz ninety three WIBC, Good morning, be honest
with you.

Speaker 2 (04:00):
The country is moving towards Trump. I mean these polls
that come out and show them not doing well.

Speaker 1 (04:06):
I don't buy that. It's a weird world when I
see a conversation between Chris Matthews and Charlie Rose and
I'm like, I went back in time, clearly, clearly I
have been dreaming and it's still like, I don't know,
two thousand and six or something like that. But it

(04:28):
was interesting to hear Chris Matthews say the country's moving
towards the polls, and I don't buy that they show
him not doing well.

Speaker 2 (04:40):
I think that happens to be accurate.

Speaker 1 (04:43):
I think that the conversations about the economy are real.
And I still think the momentum is with and the
feeling is that their life has better opportunity with Trump.

(05:06):
That's reality. I think that's a large scale reality. Did
I say hello, I'll say hello later. Let me keep going.
There's also a quick story out of the in the The
Star that I want to get to, because gosh, there

(05:30):
are ways to get things wrong, and then there are
really ways to get things wrong, and this is just
one of those really really really wrong ways to get
things wrong.

Speaker 2 (05:40):
I will get that done in a minute.

Speaker 1 (05:42):
I was told by those people who dislike Donald Trump
that he is a king, a king, I say, And
he has princely or kingly purple garb and has a
crown and walks around with a scepter and says everyone
must do my bidding.

Speaker 2 (05:59):
And says, oh wait, I'm sorry. The court said I
can't do that.

Speaker 1 (06:02):
Okay, well listen, go back to the courts and let's
see if we can win over there.

Speaker 2 (06:05):
Wait now on the court said I can't do this
over here.

Speaker 1 (06:07):
All right, we won't do that. We'll do this thing
over here. As far as kings go, Donald Trump sucks.

Speaker 2 (06:14):
Not a king.

Speaker 1 (06:16):
The embarrassment in which the left should engage for making
that kind of declaration is unknowable to normal people like
you and I. But they don't have any embarrassment. They
don't care what they said. This much is true. This
is the Indiana Democratic Party as a whole. They do
not care what it is they said.

Speaker 2 (06:41):
President Trump.

Speaker 1 (06:44):
Is now going to provide the administration will provide partial
November snap benefits.

Speaker 2 (06:50):
That's food stamps. Why is this?

Speaker 1 (06:55):
I thought they only had a certain amount of money
in there. There is no mechanism for them being able
to spend just a certain amount of money. It's either
funded or it's not. It's a binary condition. Now we're hearing, well,
you've got this money, so put it out there. They're
saying they're not going to tap other funds to fill
the gap.

Speaker 2 (07:15):
This is what we've got left in the program. This
is what we're going to spend.

Speaker 1 (07:21):
Now what king does that? I'm not doing it. The
court ordered it. Now I'm doing it. What king does that?
Can we put an end to the nonsense? I want
you to laugh at people who to say it.

Speaker 2 (07:34):
I want you to call them liars.

Speaker 1 (07:36):
That includes four weeks from now your Thanksgiving table, and
so we are clear, so we can get it done
now before you can't rescind an invitation.

Speaker 2 (07:48):
Maybe there are some people who shouldn't be at your
Thanksgiving table.

Speaker 1 (07:50):
Now. I have advocated this for years, this idea that
certainly there's the idea that you should be able to
get along with people, even if you politically disagree with them.
You should be able to talk to them, including members
of family, but some people you can't. Why do you
suffer through Thanksgiving? Why do you suffer through when that

(08:12):
ridiculous leftist uncle could say anything they want and everyone
looks at it says, just let them be, Let it be,
don't worry about it that that ridiculous cousin and her shrieking.

Speaker 2 (08:24):
Just let it be. Just let it be. You know
she's all alone. Just let it be.

Speaker 1 (08:29):
No, No, I think you should be surrounded by the
people you love, the people who actually like you, or
give yourself a break and step away. This year you
caught a cold. No, no, that would be lying. I
don't want to be around you this year. You're just
too nasty to be around. Maybe I'll have strength for

(08:51):
it next year.

Speaker 2 (08:52):
There you go. Oh, I'm a huge believer in this.

Speaker 1 (08:57):
Love yourself enough not to spend a day being abused
by people who want to abuse you, an entire political
party that is willing to lie on every level. No Kings,
stop talking, no Kings, no blank.

Speaker 2 (09:17):
Man.

Speaker 1 (09:18):
The things you can't say on radio, huh, because that
would have been a good one right there.

Speaker 2 (09:25):
So there will be partial benefits.

Speaker 1 (09:27):
And when are we going to start talking about the
forty million people on SNAP, which is the Supplemental Nutrition
Assistance program. When are we going to discuss how many
illegal immigrants are getting these benefits and when it stops?
So you think people should starve? I think Americans should
take care of Americans. I think Americans should take care
of themselves. You don't have changes to programs unless you

(09:50):
have changes to programs. And I'm sick and tired of
the progressive trying to guilt every day Americans were working hard,
sometimes two jobs, into giving up more of their money
for their heart I don't care about your heart strings.
I care about the heart strings of hardworking Americans and
those people who want to be Americans.

Speaker 2 (10:06):
My name is Tony Katz. Can I help you? See?
I told you I introduced myself later.

Speaker 1 (10:12):
President Trump is also going to hit the cartels, which
I agree with. The story from NBC News is that
there's a new mission in Mexico against cartels. According to
multiple officials, planning for this mission possibly the sending of

(10:33):
troops and intel officers to Mexico to target drug cartels. Now,
this goes along with what we're seeing with Venezuela and
the drug boats and whether or not there is indeed
an engagement happening and act of war happening, which would
require Congress. It requires Congress. Leave that to the side,

(10:55):
just for a moment. Is President Trump actually engaging a
war in Mexico. We have said on this show that
if the way to handle the cartels is to move
ten miles into Mexico, create a DMZ style situation like
betraying North and South Korea, well then that's what.

Speaker 2 (11:17):
Has to get done. Who's in charge?

Speaker 1 (11:21):
The idea that the cartel is in charge is radical,
And yet what we're told by far too many is
what are you going to do?

Speaker 2 (11:29):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (11:29):
Well, what can you do? There are many things you
can do. You just have to be willing to do them.
And if Mexico doesn't like it, that's Claudia Scheinbaum's problem.
She is the president of Mexico. That's her problem. Didn't
ask if you liked it?

Speaker 2 (11:45):
Don't care?

Speaker 1 (11:47):
What is this constant conversation about caring about things that.

Speaker 2 (11:51):
Don't matter.

Speaker 1 (11:54):
Mexico's feelings on how we deal with cartels that they
can't handle.

Speaker 2 (11:59):
Don't care.

Speaker 1 (12:02):
But cartel's not being in business or at least not
bothering Americans.

Speaker 2 (12:06):
Let them go.

Speaker 1 (12:07):
Bother Chinese nationals. Let them go bother the whole of
South America. I wish they didn't. I wish they were
just gone. Why in the world do we have to
be bothered with this idea of well, what are you
going to do?

Speaker 2 (12:21):
I think you can do a lot.

Speaker 1 (12:23):
And maybe we should be very aggressive, and maybe we
should be looking at cartels as an invading force, and
maybe we should figure out exactly how tough our military
is with a little bit of practice. That's right, Alan
Iverson practice.

Speaker 2 (12:45):
Just a theory.

Speaker 1 (12:46):
The breaking news of former Vice President Dick Cheney dead
at the age of eighty four.

Speaker 2 (12:52):
Tony Katz ninety three WIBC, good morning, good to be
with you.

Speaker 1 (13:00):
Forty six the vice presidents of the United States passed
away last night, according to the statement, complications of pneumonia,
cardiac and vascular disease. Served as Vice president to George W.
Bush two thousand and one to two thousand and nine.
I'm gonna leave it to others to engage their chainey

(13:21):
hate because it's gonna happen. It's just not my interest
or not my want. I'll let other people do what
it is that other people do. We've got election day
going on across the country, not every spot of the country.

Speaker 2 (13:43):
You have this off year election.

Speaker 1 (13:45):
The vote turnout so far in New York show being
much higher than in years past.

Speaker 2 (13:54):
There it was this. Let me see if I can
find this here.

Speaker 1 (14:05):
It seems that the opinion pages of The Indie Star
has been different as of late, and I'm not one
hundred percent sure why that is. It could be the
addition of this guy, Jacob Stewart, who's at least writing opinions,

(14:27):
whether I agree or disagree, they are indeed opinions. Then
there's the standard stuff. There is Mitch Gore writing in
the Indie Star. He is a state representative. My GOP

(14:48):
colleagues whisper they're disgusted but won't stand up to Trump.
It's this kind of nonsense That is what I've come
to expect from the Indie Star. When I see things
that are different, at least go okay, interesting, I like that,
or at least that's interesting, or at least there's a
thought there. And right now the thoughts seems to be

(15:10):
coming from this guy, Jacob Stewart.

Speaker 2 (15:12):
You know, the thought of, hey, why don't we take
over our.

Speaker 1 (15:15):
Own utilities and why don't we have Indianapolis run aees
which is an absolutely awful IDEA government can't run a
power company, This government can't plow roads.

Speaker 2 (15:28):
What are we discussing? My GOP colleagues whisper their disgust.

Speaker 1 (15:33):
But won't stand up to Trump. I haven't even gotten
past the headline show me where the Democrats say it's
wrong to mutilate children and boys are not girls.

Speaker 2 (15:48):
Why won't you stand up for children?

Speaker 1 (15:53):
I mean, if we're all about the standing up to Trump,
what are you standing up for? Where is the Democratic
Party to say we are not communists? Where are you
to stand up dossarnmm, Dannie know he's the future of
the party. Where are the Democrats in Indiana who stand

(16:16):
up and say, you know what, this anti semitism really
is a problem coming from Ilhana mar and Rashida Talib
and the fact that Andre Carson befriends Lewis Farakhan.

Speaker 2 (16:27):
Where are you representative? Gore?

Speaker 1 (16:31):
The problem with your piece, which I admittedly just read
the headline just came across, is that it is the
same nonsensical problem that always comes across.

Speaker 2 (16:44):
It is what the Indie Star is known for.

Speaker 1 (16:50):
But you want to talk about not standing up an
entire political party that looks at rank outright in saying
vicious bigotry and goes humph, Trump bad.

Speaker 2 (17:07):
Right now, the political.

Speaker 1 (17:08):
Right is in a serious place of divide regarding Tucker Carlson,
this interview with Nick Fuentes and this insane defense by
Kevin Roberts of Heritage, where I think it's pretty clear
he didn't even know what he was talking about. That's
the robust debate, that's the real argument. And sadly, look

(17:29):
who we're having to argue against actual insane bigotry of
Fuentes and the cover given by Tucker Carlson and Candice
Owens and sadly, way too many others. Where are you
you want to argue there's a disgust for Trump and
people don't stand up.

Speaker 2 (17:50):
Okay, you go right ahead.

Speaker 1 (17:54):
But the idea that it would give you any level
of moral authority is laughable. If it wasn't so discuss
By the way, are Indiana Republicans they're always somewhat disgusted.
You should see how disgusted Hoosiers are with them.

Speaker 2 (18:13):
That would blow your mind. But it's this kind of nonsense.
This is a nonsense nonsense story.

Speaker 1 (18:23):
This is basically a process story that's been written for
the last ten years.

Speaker 2 (18:28):
You're boring.

Speaker 1 (18:33):
And I have no reason to think that the Indian
Star wouldn't publish it just for that. They are publishing
some other stuff lately, which is interesting. But this representative Gore, Honey,
this doesn't move the needle. This isn't even interesting. And

(18:53):
if you're gonna start pointing fingers out how one should
stand up. I've got all the mirrors for you, man,
how many do you want and where do you want
them delivered?

Speaker 3 (19:02):
So is is redistricting over this move from Senator Bray
to say, you know what, we're not gonna We're not.

Speaker 1 (19:19):
Gonna have the special session there. You know, we're not
gonna start November. We'll just we'll hold off until December.
And that way, you know, we'll already have the day
on November eighteenth, right, you know, and then get everything
set and then we'll just we'll just lead it into
that so it'll cost taxpayers.

Speaker 2 (19:40):
Lest that's a good ideas.

Speaker 1 (19:43):
That's punting, right, That is saying, hey, maybe everybody will
forget about this. That's what they're saying, right, Tony Katz,
that's me Tony Katz at ninety three WIBC, Good Morning,
could to be with you. The scheduling plan will save
taxpayer money and lawmakers will still debate time sensitive legislative action. Remember,

(20:06):
this special session is not just about redistricting. The special
session is about adjusting who's your tax code, Indiana tax
code so it matches up with federal code. I looked
at this, I heard this, and I said, oh, it's over.

Speaker 2 (20:27):
It's over. This is about pushing it to the side.
That was my first take on this.

Speaker 1 (20:33):
Redistricting will not come to the state of Indiana. Of course,
they're voting on Prop fifty right now in California and
it will probably go through and they will remove five
Republican seats. And you know what the Democrats here in
Indiana are going to say, well, good, you see that
had to happen. Nope, nope, there's no ideological through line whatsoever.

Speaker 2 (20:59):
There's no consistent and see at all.

Speaker 1 (21:02):
Well, you see if Texas hadn't Texas is Texas, then
California open their big mouth. That's when I said, well,
let's redistrict. So California is going to do it, and
I don't know what Indiana is going to do at all. Actually,
I have no idea what it is that they're going
to do here. Because of the calendar alignment that's agreed

(21:23):
to Todd Houston, starting the regular session early would be
the most cost effective and efficient way to address the
governor's call for a special session. Our goal is to
avoid any added session related costs, and we will continue
to look for ways to save taxpayer dollars as we
work through and finalize the schedule.

Speaker 2 (21:43):
Do they have the votes?

Speaker 1 (21:46):
That is an absolutely fantastic question, because we keep hearing
from alleged.

Speaker 2 (21:54):
Sources that the Senate does the Senate Republicans do not
have the votes. You don't have the boots, you don't
have the vote. You've got I need refreshionble, you don't
have the votes.

Speaker 1 (22:15):
I am more and more of the opinion that people
are just making things up and putting it out there,
more than I ever believe their their inside sources or
what it.

Speaker 2 (22:25):
Is they have to say.

Speaker 1 (22:27):
I just think they're they're they're desperate to to get
a click and not they don't actually have it.

Speaker 2 (22:34):
I'm not sure.

Speaker 1 (22:36):
I'm not sure if the Republicans have the votes for
redissecting or not. But When I saw this move, I said, hmn, okay,
it's over. Then I spent a little more time working
through it, walking myself through it, and said.

Speaker 2 (22:55):
Okay, maybe it's not.

Speaker 1 (22:58):
Maybe this is just because you had time within a
special session, right you said, okay, this would work better
to achieve a goal. Maybe it's more time to convince
some people. Maybe this still exists. So I'm fifty to fifty.

Speaker 2 (23:13):
On it at the moment.

Speaker 1 (23:15):
On where they're going to be with redistricting Organization Day
is November eighteenth. They're going to move this to the
beginning of December. I could equally be shown that this
is going to happen, as I can be shown that
this is going to be forgotten about. We're waiting and
seeing people keep contacting your local officials. Matt Behar has
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