November 7, 2025 • 28 mins
Government Shutdown continues. AG Todd Rokita suing Indianapolis Public Schools (IPS) for thwarting federal immigration enforcement. No end to the shutdown in sight. Obama-appointed judge John J. McConnell Jr. is ordering the Trump administration to pay the full amount of SNAP benefits for the month of November. How the Republicans need to message this government shutdown successfully
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
And then chili conditions settle in for the end of
the week. Early next week, scattered rain in. Yes, snow
showers possible on Sunday with highs they're forty two.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
Oh, it's gonna be.
Speaker 1 (00:10):
Blustering out there, piece of winter. Cloudy and cold. Monday,
a few flurries. Heisly near thirty eight, and I should
mention early Monday morning low temperatures will be into the
twenties with windchill values into the teens. So help up.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
Okay, all right, I have to take control back. Turn
off the music producer Carl. Oh no, uh oh, the
sound effects stop, Carl, they stop? Do you do you
hear me?
Speaker 1 (00:47):
Dad's mad?
Speaker 2 (00:48):
They did you say Dad's mad? You wait your turn,
young lady. I'll get to you in a second. It stops,
and at stops now because we're not able to hear
what Tara says over the sound effect. And we need
to hear Tara because people want to know what's going
on with the weather, and we can't interrupt that, right, Tara, Yeah,
(01:14):
you encourage Carl. One more time. I'm doing a podcast
with Marcus Bailey. One more tilling young Lady and me
and June our students are going right to the top.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
Yes, Dad, Sorry, I.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
Didn't want to. I didn't want it to have to
be this way. It hurts me more than it hurts you.
And that, kids, is how you keep control. Put me
in coach, I'll handle this whole shutdown nonsense, no problem.
(01:51):
There you go right there and the people will cheer.
That's proper use of a sound effect.
Speaker 3 (02:00):
There you go.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
Thank you very very much. That was not necessary, Carl,
that was me, Actually I did that anyway. Tara Hastings,
We're gonna work on this podcast Wish TV because the
people want it. They clearly clearly want it. Or maybe
they just want you and me talking on stage at
a bar.
Speaker 1 (02:23):
I mean that could happen too, Tara.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
And Tony one night only for the second time. That'll
be the name of the.
Speaker 4 (02:32):
Show, that would be.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
That's a good name.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
All right, yep, Oh, we could do that. We could
do that, but but it's gonna take work. You can't
can't just show up and hit chut. You gotta actually
put in the work. Are you ready?
Speaker 1 (02:44):
All right, I'm ready. I'm ready. We'll put in the work.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
She's so not ready. She's gonna go do weather stuff.
Tara Haystings Wish TV meteorologists. I appreciate you very very much.
Thank you God. We've got fifty two degrees in the
America Standard Heating Weather Center. The time is eight o nine.
(03:15):
The shutdown continues the FAA, as was announced by Sewn Duffy,
the Transportation Secretary. They're cutting ten percent of flights. It's
really I think it's a ramping up process to get
to ten percent because they don't have the air traffic
controllers to be able to handle everything. Tony Katz, ninety
(03:37):
three WIBC, Good morning, Good to be with you. It
is my take that the Republicans should simply say we've
passed the veterinarian resolution, We've done all we can do.
Here you go, and every time they say Republicans shutdown Famila,
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Jayapaul should be at I don't know why you favor
Senate Democrats letting children starve and die, but you're disgusting
and there's a place in hell for you and walk away.
I believe that you get that personal at this stage
of the game, because what Democrats believe is they can
create all the pain in the world, and Republicans, whaquis
teaching Democrats to instill more pain and people are suffering.
(04:22):
That's legit, and that's the way this is. Pass the
continuing resolution and then vote on the other things. You've
already stated that it's political. Okay, we think it's more
than that. So nothing happens. Until you make a change,
nothing happens. And if this goes into month six, so
(04:46):
be it. But President Trump is wrong. The answer is
not get rid of the filibuster. That's not the answer
because you don't have the system set up to do
all the things you want to do just yet. Because
if you get rid of the philbuster, you gotta do
everything in the span of two weeks. Whoop done. You
gotta make sure everybody's on board. It's a lot of whipcounts.
(05:09):
But if you reward the Democratic Party with acquiescence, all
they will learn is this is the tactic inflict pain.
Inflict pain. People got to learn. There's a lawsuit filed
by the Attorney General of Indiana, Tad Roketa, against Indianapolis
Public Schools. The Attorney General, Toad Raketa, will be with
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us coming up next. Keep it here. This is Tony
Katz ninety three WIBC.
Speaker 5 (05:34):
Good morning, We're announcing a new enforcement action my office
is taking to eliminate local government policies in Indiana that.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
Give sanctuary to illegal aliens.
Speaker 5 (05:46):
I am bringing a lawsuit against the Indianapolis Public Schools
over their policies that hamstring ICE's ability to keep our
schools safe from criminal illegal aliens.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
That was a statement yesterday, video statement put out by
the Attorney General of Indiana, Todd Raketa Me. I'm Tony
Katz ninety three WIBC, Good morning, Good to be with you.
He was standing next to Chad Wolfe, the former acting
Secretary of Homeland Security. While he made this statement. The
Attorney General, Todd Rakeita joins us right now. Full Disclosure
(06:17):
Indiana Unclaimed is run by the Attorney General's Office. It
is a sponsor of a segment on this show and
on this station. That does not change how we do
the interview. You'll decide for yourself. I am just a
believer in the full disclosure. Let's start, sir, with what
it is that we're saying here. You're going about this
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lawsuit for ignoring against IPS, for ignoring immigration law, interfering
with ICE. Is this because of what they've said, or
is this because of something they've done.
Speaker 4 (06:50):
Hey, Tony, going to be with you both. Really, It's started.
Speaker 3 (06:54):
January eighth when ICE reached out to me and they
needed help because they were getting stonewalled by IPS. And
the reason they were getting stonewalled is because there was
a child of an illegal alien who was at the school.
Now you remember, Christy no advertised the idea of self deporting,
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and that resulted in thousands of thousands of people here
legally deporting themselves voluntarily so that they might have a
chance later in life to come back the right way
without being penalized. Well, there was a father here in
Indianapolis who wanted to do just that, and so he
contacted the school to get his kid so that they
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could go back to wherever they came from. The school
wouldn't give up the kid, and so ICE reached out
to us and Weed we started an investigation that led
to phone calls, that led to letters that were ultimately
ignored by IPS, and it led us to discovering that
they have a pretty clear policy so in writing that
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forbids their employees from cooperating with ICE unless the superintendent approves,
not collecting or maintaining anything about immigration status.
Speaker 4 (08:10):
And not allowing any.
Speaker 3 (08:12):
Law enforcement or ice law enforcement in to any non
public areas of the school.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
Could we agree just as allowing me to interrupt? And
I appreciate that that we would see these things as
different things. Not allowing ice or law enforcement to the
school is far different than whether or not we expect
schools to be keeping copious notes on all the students.
Speaker 3 (08:35):
True, and that's not what the requirement is. But the
Indiana law does require you not to operate a sanctuary jurisdiction.
Speaker 4 (08:41):
So when you take these.
Speaker 3 (08:43):
Policies together, what we're alleging and will be successful is
that they're operating a sanctuary jurisdiction. Now, remember Tom Holman,
who was here just a few weeks ago at my
invitation and talked about it then, but he's also talked
about it consistently for the last ten months or so.
Joe Biden and his administration led in four hundred thousand
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children unaccompanied without parents. They're roaming this country right now,
four hundred thousand kids. I think about the sex trafficking
implications and everything.
Speaker 4 (09:14):
Else that goes along with that.
Speaker 3 (09:16):
Who's to say that some of those four hundred thousand
kids aren't in Indiana, schools aren't at ips and so that's.
Speaker 4 (09:24):
There's a huge issue there.
Speaker 3 (09:26):
And to say you're going to have a policy that
actually prohibits them collecting any information that would help I
find these four hundred thousand kids is a real problem, Tony.
Speaker 4 (09:38):
And I'm not going to take that line down.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
Talking to the Attorney General of Indiana, Tad Rakeda, and
I absolutely think about those kids who have been trafficked
up here. Where are they now? What exactly is happening
to them? How the Biden administration clearly in levels of admission,
lost sight of them, lost track of them, lost count
of them. It is horrifying. But when you talk about
a lawsuit, how does one engage a level of enforcement here?
(10:04):
To sue a school district is different than whether or
not a specific teacher can actually follows the rules or
tries to subvert them. So what is the enforcement mechanism
at play?
Speaker 4 (10:16):
Well, it would be.
Speaker 3 (10:17):
To enjoy the school from operating a sanctuary city, so
they'd get rid of these policies, they get rid of
these rules, they cooperate with ice.
Speaker 4 (10:25):
That's the relief for looking.
Speaker 2 (10:26):
But you might still have to if there was a
teacher doing ex or an administrator doing why you may
still have to deal with them on a different law
enforcement basis. This is about a removal of rules that
are situated that exist to stop whether it's you law
enforcement Indiana or federal law enforcement from doing its job.
Speaker 4 (10:48):
Right. And this is a civil lawsuit.
Speaker 3 (10:50):
So in Indiana, the general somebody has not given the
Attorney general criminal jurisdiction. For example, your example about a
teacher or something like that, that would still be the
local prosecutor. That would be local law enforcement that kind
of thing. However, the General Assembly has instructed me to
enforce against any local jurisdictions that are operating a sanctuary
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city or school or anything like that. And so that's
that's the nature of this law.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
So if it's up to the local prosecutor in Indianapolis,
that would be Ryan Meares. And we have seen that
that is not somebody who actually thinks that the role
of being a prosecutor means actually prosecuting. Have you spoken
to him about this at all?
Speaker 3 (11:34):
Because of the civil matter, so I wouldn't necessarily speak
to him about you know this, again, the statute that
I'm operating under given to me by.
Speaker 4 (11:42):
The General Assembly have.
Speaker 2 (11:43):
You spoken to him about prosecuting those teachers, those administrators,
those within school districts at ips who don't follow the
letter of the law.
Speaker 3 (11:51):
Well, no, that's my jurisdiction and it's a civil violation.
So and he does criminal law. So no, I wouldn't
have a reason to do that. But there's a million
other things to talk about. Right with regard to the
fact that Indianapolis is one of the worst crime ridden
cities in the US, I think it was right number
one recently, especially per capita, which is the reason I
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asked President Trump actually to come in and help out.
Speaker 4 (12:17):
Yeah, I understand, Tony.
Speaker 3 (12:18):
So in Indiana, the Attorney General's office isn't even called
for in our constitution.
Speaker 4 (12:25):
I don't know if you knew that. It's a statutory creation.
Speaker 3 (12:28):
So everything that I can do or not do is
usually prescribed is prescribed in statute. In Indiana, the local
prosecutors and all of them, it doesn't matter really, Republican
or Democrat, are very, very vehemently and jealously protect their
discretion to file criminal charges. They're the only ones in
the state that really can do that. And so in
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other states, my counterparts have that I do have criminal
jurisdiction in other states, my counterparts do so, but in
this state I don't. So, you know, I ask for
help where I can get it. I'm still a citizen
of the state. I'm still a taxpayer. I'm still a
leader in the state. And so when you don't have
a prosecutor that cooperates, that doesn't prosecute whole swaths of crimes,
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you go to other places ask for help.
Speaker 2 (13:19):
Talking to the Attorney General of Indiana, Todd Rokita, you
did make a statement on social media where you said, hey,
President Trump, send the National Guard here to Indianapolis. We
need it. What has been the response from Governor Brown,
Lieutenant Governor Beckweth, Republicans in the House, in the Senate,
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and from the President himself.
Speaker 3 (13:44):
I know we've been talking to the White House a
little bit about it.
Speaker 4 (13:46):
So there's that.
Speaker 3 (13:48):
And I haven't heard anything from Governor Brown, government with
or anyone else really that you mentioned.
Speaker 2 (13:54):
Is it a problem in your view that you're not
hearing from these people or they haven't made this call
for the Trump administration to get involved yet you had
to be the first.
Speaker 4 (14:05):
Well, you know, we're all leaders.
Speaker 3 (14:06):
I'm a state wide elected official and leading. You know,
I saw an issue, waited a little bit to see
if anyone else was going to do anything about it,
and you know, like as you know to you know me,
I don't wait around too long and do what I
can where I can. So we'll see what happens with that.
Speaker 4 (14:23):
There's a lot of federal property here.
Speaker 3 (14:25):
In the city of Indianapolis, and so there's reason for
the president to come. I think he'd be welcomed here,
you know, aside from very local leaders, I think the
state would welcome him here.
Speaker 4 (14:34):
And it's all our it's our capital city, just like Washington,
DC is our capital city. Well so is Indianapolis for
the states.
Speaker 3 (14:39):
So we all have an interest, no matter where we
live in the State of Indiana, we all have an
interest in making sure our capital city is a safe place,
is a place we can all be proud of. It
is a place we can all go to and like
and bring our friends and family members from out of
state here and show off.
Speaker 4 (14:57):
And it's hard to do that right now.
Speaker 2 (15:00):
There's been a lot of conversation about why the state
does not get more involved in the safety and security
of Indianapolis. It has been broached before in the city
leadership quote unquote, the civic leaders and others who have
nothing to say about crime in general will say, hey, State,
leave us alone, this is none of your concern. Are
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you a believer that the state should be more involved
in Indianapolis's safety and security and engage a level of
takeover or should the city be engaged in removing the
mayor from such a leadership position and institute a town
council system or a town manager system. I should say
that would leave the mayor to be ceremonial.
Speaker 4 (15:42):
Well, I firmly.
Speaker 3 (15:43):
Believe that the people need to pick their leaders and
they shouldn't be removed.
Speaker 4 (15:47):
Except by the people. So there's that.
Speaker 3 (15:49):
But aside from that, you know, I've watched as a
guy from northwest Indiana who served in a couple of
different state wide offices. Now I've watched this city grow
and and be something that's that punched way above its weight,
and it took decades, and I just cannot believe the
city fathers and mothers and others who built up this
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city over the last decades, you know, who associate with
other names like Luger and Hudnut and Goldsmith, wouldn't support
me in this effort to help get this city cleaned up, right.
I mean, so much time, so much money, so much
effort has been put into all this over decades just
to see it go right down a toilet like this,
and we're going to stand by and.
Speaker 4 (16:30):
Say, oh, that's okay.
Speaker 3 (16:31):
It's just those Democrats, that's how they do things. They're
different and poor Joe Hogseett and what absolutely not. And
so that's you know, that's kind of what was going
on in the back of my mind when I put
out the.
Speaker 2 (16:44):
Social media post, Attorney General Todd Rakeita, I appreciate you
taking the time. DAP futures are down one twenty one
NASDAK futures are down one fifty six tony kats ninety
three WIBC. Good morning, good to be with you. And
we still we don't have any numbers, we don't have
any BLS movement because of the government shutdown. Oil prices
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fifty nine dollars eighty nine cents on the West Texas
crewed on that Brent crude sixty three dollars and seventy
nine cents. That is the barrel price. The tenure treasury
is still about four percent of four point zero nine
to five gold prices they have been in flux thirty
nine ninety six an ounce three nine hundred ninety six
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dollars an ounce, silver up a little bit forty eight
dollars and fifty cents an ounce. If you have family
or you are flying, you better get ready for some delays.
Air traffic controllers are not there, and there is going
to be a real effect, and the Democratic Party is
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going to seemingly shockingly, maybe not surprisingly. That's the way
to say. They're gonna take this shutdown as far as
they can, and they will take it into Thanksgiving. And yes,
I've had the conversation, having the conversation with my mother. Yeah,
I have no idea if you're gonna be able to
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make it here or not. I have no clue whether
or not you're gonna fly up. And you're gonna have
to have that conversation with Grandma and Mema and pop
up and whatever you call them. Although I will admit
personally I'm opposed to the idea of pop up. I
don't know something about it doesn't work for me. But
who am I. I'm not your pop pop. So you're
gonna have to have those conversations regarding Thanksgiving because this
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is coming. There's no end to the government shutdown in sight,
zero less than zero. They want it. This is the
way it's gonna be. As I have promised, or as
I have stated, I won't get worked up by this,
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but I do believe there are ways to handle this,
and the Republican Party needs to give a much stronger
response than Speaker Johnson gives. And I think Speaker Johnson
has done an admirable job. But we are now in
a new place, and the new place is listen. We've
passed a continuing resolution fourteen different times. It's clear that
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Chuck Schumer's okay with kids starving to death so we
can get political power. We say, screw him and the
horse he rode in on and his raw cheeseburgers. We're
not doing this. The continuing resolution is there. When Senate
Democrats care more about Americans than they do about power,
we'll be there to vote for it. And that's it,
and leave it and leave it. And now you've got
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a judge saying that the administration has to fund SNAP
in full, and the administration is saying, how in the
world do we do this? And the Judge's like I
don't care. A judge can order the federal government to
spend money when senators won't vote to spend the money.
Can the judge order the payment of air traffic controllers
on the military as well? Or is it just food benefits?
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I think the judges out of their minds. This is
for senators to handle. Are judges running this country? Because
that can't be good because I didn't vote for these judges.
Did vote for representatives, and you did too. But the
way to handle this is to say we've done everything
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we can. This is on you. And if you say
to me, well Trump wants to get rid of the philibuster,
you can get rid of the philibuster and pass this.
Do we have any idea what we're opening? There any
idea of what we're opening if we get rid of
the sixty vote threshold? What happens if you lose the Senate? Well,
they're going to do it anyway they might. But what
happens if you've already done it? And what are you
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going to get accomplished in the next year? What are
you going to get done? Are you ready? Have you
done the whip counts? You can't just go at this
Willy nilly. You have to have a plan, and I
do not believe the White House has the plan. They've
got an emotion. I don't work on emotions with family.
I work on emotions and I try not to, but
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it's family everything else. Have a plan, and the plan
for Democrats is you want dead kids. I think you
are low life scumbags. You want to vote for dead
kids by not voting for a continuing resolution starving kids.
You're disgusting. I wouldn't let you in my house, but
when you come to your senses, we'll be there to
vote for the continuing resolution. Have a nice day. Have
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a nice day, by Felicia. I have no idea Republicans
will do it or not. You want to vote for
air traffic controllers to have to work uber jobs. There's
nothing wrong with working an uber job, by the way,
but this is what you want. You want people not
to be with their families, just like you didn't want
them with their families during COVID. You are a disgusting,
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ugly party. We'll be there when you get your heads
on straight like John Fetterman, when you start acting more
like John Fetterman, will be right there. Until then, Bah,
that's how it has to happen. It's how it has
to happen. And while this is happening, donate to your
local food pantry. Do it now, do it today. People
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are going to suffer. It's going to stay. We have
too many people on these programs. I wholeheartedly agree. That
doesn't mean that everybody on these programs is a bad person.
And I'm not taking it out on them, And I
don't think we as hoosas are we as human beings
should do so your local food bank, if you can,
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you give this week and next week and the week after.
People need help. And if Democrats want to be these
disgusting slobs, and if senators of all stripes can't figure
out how to get their act together, well it's gross
and it's a pox on all our houses. But I'm
not gonna let my neighbors starve because of it. That's insane.
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That's insane. It's time to play America's favorite game. What
the heck is that television theme song? Here is how
we play? Uh? Producer Carl has picked a television theme
song from yesteryear, and I have to guess what it is. Now.
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The problem is this sounds very familiar like this sounds
like it's in like the one Tree Hill kind of category.
Speaker 4 (23:37):
It's a Friday show. What was that Friday is in
the title?
Speaker 2 (23:44):
Yes, yes, and the chatroom got it right. This is
the theme to Friday Night Lights. But they're also because
Matt Bear isn't here today, they're filling the Matt Bear
role and say, well, Tony, that's the theme to the
care Bears. Bra visimo, bra visimo. Well done, well done,
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well done, well done. I was on the Sean Spicer
Show yesterday, and now I've got people from Axios clipping
quotes from me because I was talking about Scott Bessent
and not the most positive terms. Two minute responds, I
clipped thirteen seconds. That must be it, guys. So it
goes on Tony Kats today at noon. We're gonna get
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into this messaging battle, this messaging conversation and fighting with force.
And it can't be all Trump all the time, and
Trump can't get his way all the time. No, don't
get rid of the filibuster. Yes, leave the shutdown at
Democrats feet and say we're done here and get nasty
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about it. Don't be kind, don't be sweet, don't speak
in soft dulcid tones. Hit him, hit him over the head.
See that's what makes Trump so good at this because
he's willing to hit you over the head. And people
are like, that's just so beneath America. Democrats do it
all the time. You set up Paul Ryan, he wants
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to push Grandma off a cliff. Sorry, Democrats, you don't
get to you don't get to play the game of well,
you know we're decent. No no, no, no, no no. Well. Also,
I wasn't planning on discussing redistricting, but oh, another poll
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shows Hoosier's opposed the Republican redistricting power grab. The power
grab conversations amongst the dopiest conversations out there. And it's
utilized by people who have no idea that we're talking
about something political. Of course, it's about power. Cat's why
California did it, That's why Marilyn's doing it. I'd appreciate it. Everybody,
grow up. It is a tool the left is using
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to say we don't want it here because it hurts us.
With all due respect, you lost. Isn't that supposed to
be the answer. Isn't that what I learned from Barack Obama?
You lost, and Republicans have this capability, and it's a
fully legal process, and the people can vote them out
of office. I can think of nothing more natural than
this kind of progression. Is nothing more American than this
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kind of progression. Your state legislator does something you don't like,
your vote them out of office. The power grab conversation
is a conversation for ridiculous people who want to throw
a pretend stat in the air and think that it matters.
It isn't utilized by serious people engaged in serious conversation.
It's utilized by people who are very desperate and not
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people who are very factual. It's a power grab. You
mean the party in power utilizing the power. Eric Holder said,
if Democrats win the House and the Senate, they should
pack court. He is admitting to utilizing the power. But
if Republicans want to redistrict in the state of Indiana,
that's a power grab. Shut up, and I've got Republicans
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feel the air quotes falling for that crap. Pseudo intellectualism
is not something we should aspire to. Oh good gosh.
But I don't know what Republicans are gonna do. I
don't know if they're gonna redistrict or not. I just
listened to the powergraph thing and realized that the Indiana
Democratic Party is full of it. And when I think
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back to where I was last week in Vigo County,
in that listening session with Senator Gregory Good, you had
seventy one people speaking against redistrict, and a lot of
people said power grab. They have no idea what they're saying,
no civics engagement whatsoever. They don't understand. Of course, it's
about power, the end to which the Democratic Party is
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completely willing to let children starve to get power. Everybody
within the sound of my voice knows that I'm making sense,
but the progressive can't handle it. So they'll now call
me a racist or a bigot, or they'll send some
troll after me. We are making the rational point. When
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they engage with power, somehow it's decent. When Republicans do it,
it's somehow it's evil. Could we stop it? I need
people who will pull up their pants, let them drop,
and then abs you know what I mean by let
them drop, because I don't mean the pants, and then
go about saying this is what we're doing. I will
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discuss it on Tony kats today at noon. I might
be losing friends, but damn it, I sleep well
And then chili conditions settle in for the end of
the week. Early next week, scattered rain in. Yes, snow
showers possible on Sunday with highs they're forty two.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
Oh, it's gonna be.
Speaker 1 (00:10):
Blustering out there, piece of winter. Cloudy and cold. Monday,
a few flurries. Heisly near thirty eight, and I should
mention early Monday morning low temperatures will be into the
twenties with windchill values into the teens. So help up.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
Okay, all right, I have to take control back. Turn
off the music producer Carl. Oh no, uh oh, the
sound effects stop, Carl, they stop? Do you do you
hear me?
Speaker 1 (00:47):
Dad's mad?
Speaker 2 (00:48):
They did you say Dad's mad? You wait your turn,
young lady. I'll get to you in a second. It stops,
and at stops now because we're not able to hear
what Tara says over the sound effect. And we need
to hear Tara because people want to know what's going
on with the weather, and we can't interrupt that, right, Tara, Yeah,
(01:14):
you encourage Carl. One more time. I'm doing a podcast
with Marcus Bailey. One more tilling young Lady and me
and June our students are going right to the top.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
Yes, Dad, Sorry, I.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
Didn't want to. I didn't want it to have to
be this way. It hurts me more than it hurts you.
And that, kids, is how you keep control. Put me
in coach, I'll handle this whole shutdown nonsense, no problem.
(01:51):
There you go right there and the people will cheer.
That's proper use of a sound effect.
Speaker 3 (02:00):
There you go.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
Thank you very very much. That was not necessary, Carl,
that was me, Actually I did that anyway. Tara Hastings,
We're gonna work on this podcast Wish TV because the
people want it. They clearly clearly want it. Or maybe
they just want you and me talking on stage at
a bar.
Speaker 1 (02:23):
I mean that could happen too, Tara.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
And Tony one night only for the second time. That'll
be the name of the.
Speaker 4 (02:32):
Show, that would be.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
That's a good name.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
All right, yep, Oh, we could do that. We could
do that, but but it's gonna take work. You can't
can't just show up and hit chut. You gotta actually
put in the work. Are you ready?
Speaker 1 (02:44):
All right, I'm ready. I'm ready. We'll put in the work.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
She's so not ready. She's gonna go do weather stuff.
Tara Haystings Wish TV meteorologists. I appreciate you very very much.
Thank you God. We've got fifty two degrees in the
America Standard Heating Weather Center. The time is eight o nine.
(03:15):
The shutdown continues the FAA, as was announced by Sewn Duffy,
the Transportation Secretary. They're cutting ten percent of flights. It's
really I think it's a ramping up process to get
to ten percent because they don't have the air traffic
controllers to be able to handle everything. Tony Katz, ninety
(03:37):
three WIBC, Good morning, Good to be with you. It
is my take that the Republicans should simply say we've
passed the veterinarian resolution, We've done all we can do.
Here you go, and every time they say Republicans shutdown Famila,
(03:59):
Jayapaul should be at I don't know why you favor
Senate Democrats letting children starve and die, but you're disgusting
and there's a place in hell for you and walk away.
I believe that you get that personal at this stage
of the game, because what Democrats believe is they can
create all the pain in the world, and Republicans, whaquis
teaching Democrats to instill more pain and people are suffering.
(04:22):
That's legit, and that's the way this is. Pass the
continuing resolution and then vote on the other things. You've
already stated that it's political. Okay, we think it's more
than that. So nothing happens. Until you make a change,
nothing happens. And if this goes into month six, so
(04:46):
be it. But President Trump is wrong. The answer is
not get rid of the filibuster. That's not the answer
because you don't have the system set up to do
all the things you want to do just yet. Because
if you get rid of the philbuster, you gotta do
everything in the span of two weeks. Whoop done. You
gotta make sure everybody's on board. It's a lot of whipcounts.
(05:09):
But if you reward the Democratic Party with acquiescence, all
they will learn is this is the tactic inflict pain.
Inflict pain. People got to learn. There's a lawsuit filed
by the Attorney General of Indiana, Tad Roketa, against Indianapolis
Public Schools. The Attorney General, Toad Raketa, will be with
(05:29):
us coming up next. Keep it here. This is Tony
Katz ninety three WIBC.
Speaker 5 (05:34):
Good morning, We're announcing a new enforcement action my office
is taking to eliminate local government policies in Indiana that.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
Give sanctuary to illegal aliens.
Speaker 5 (05:46):
I am bringing a lawsuit against the Indianapolis Public Schools
over their policies that hamstring ICE's ability to keep our
schools safe from criminal illegal aliens.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
That was a statement yesterday, video statement put out by
the Attorney General of Indiana, Todd Raketa Me. I'm Tony
Katz ninety three WIBC, Good morning, Good to be with you.
He was standing next to Chad Wolfe, the former acting
Secretary of Homeland Security. While he made this statement. The
Attorney General, Todd Rakeita joins us right now. Full Disclosure
(06:17):
Indiana Unclaimed is run by the Attorney General's Office. It
is a sponsor of a segment on this show and
on this station. That does not change how we do
the interview. You'll decide for yourself. I am just a
believer in the full disclosure. Let's start, sir, with what
it is that we're saying here. You're going about this
(06:38):
lawsuit for ignoring against IPS, for ignoring immigration law, interfering
with ICE. Is this because of what they've said, or
is this because of something they've done.
Speaker 4 (06:50):
Hey, Tony, going to be with you both. Really, It's started.
Speaker 3 (06:54):
January eighth when ICE reached out to me and they
needed help because they were getting stonewalled by IPS. And
the reason they were getting stonewalled is because there was
a child of an illegal alien who was at the school.
Now you remember, Christy no advertised the idea of self deporting,
(07:17):
and that resulted in thousands of thousands of people here
legally deporting themselves voluntarily so that they might have a
chance later in life to come back the right way
without being penalized. Well, there was a father here in
Indianapolis who wanted to do just that, and so he
contacted the school to get his kid so that they
(07:38):
could go back to wherever they came from. The school
wouldn't give up the kid, and so ICE reached out
to us and Weed we started an investigation that led
to phone calls, that led to letters that were ultimately
ignored by IPS, and it led us to discovering that
they have a pretty clear policy so in writing that
(07:59):
forbids their employees from cooperating with ICE unless the superintendent approves,
not collecting or maintaining anything about immigration status.
Speaker 4 (08:10):
And not allowing any.
Speaker 3 (08:12):
Law enforcement or ice law enforcement in to any non
public areas of the school.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
Could we agree just as allowing me to interrupt? And
I appreciate that that we would see these things as
different things. Not allowing ice or law enforcement to the
school is far different than whether or not we expect
schools to be keeping copious notes on all the students.
Speaker 3 (08:35):
True, and that's not what the requirement is. But the
Indiana law does require you not to operate a sanctuary jurisdiction.
Speaker 4 (08:41):
So when you take these.
Speaker 3 (08:43):
Policies together, what we're alleging and will be successful is
that they're operating a sanctuary jurisdiction. Now, remember Tom Holman,
who was here just a few weeks ago at my
invitation and talked about it then, but he's also talked
about it consistently for the last ten months or so.
Joe Biden and his administration led in four hundred thousand
(09:05):
children unaccompanied without parents. They're roaming this country right now,
four hundred thousand kids. I think about the sex trafficking
implications and everything.
Speaker 4 (09:14):
Else that goes along with that.
Speaker 3 (09:16):
Who's to say that some of those four hundred thousand
kids aren't in Indiana, schools aren't at ips and so that's.
Speaker 4 (09:24):
There's a huge issue there.
Speaker 3 (09:26):
And to say you're going to have a policy that
actually prohibits them collecting any information that would help I
find these four hundred thousand kids is a real problem, Tony.
Speaker 4 (09:38):
And I'm not going to take that line down.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
Talking to the Attorney General of Indiana, Tad Rakeda, and
I absolutely think about those kids who have been trafficked
up here. Where are they now? What exactly is happening
to them? How the Biden administration clearly in levels of admission,
lost sight of them, lost track of them, lost count
of them. It is horrifying. But when you talk about
a lawsuit, how does one engage a level of enforcement here?
(10:04):
To sue a school district is different than whether or
not a specific teacher can actually follows the rules or
tries to subvert them. So what is the enforcement mechanism
at play?
Speaker 4 (10:16):
Well, it would be.
Speaker 3 (10:17):
To enjoy the school from operating a sanctuary city, so
they'd get rid of these policies, they get rid of
these rules, they cooperate with ice.
Speaker 4 (10:25):
That's the relief for looking.
Speaker 2 (10:26):
But you might still have to if there was a
teacher doing ex or an administrator doing why you may
still have to deal with them on a different law
enforcement basis. This is about a removal of rules that
are situated that exist to stop whether it's you law
enforcement Indiana or federal law enforcement from doing its job.
Speaker 4 (10:48):
Right. And this is a civil lawsuit.
Speaker 3 (10:50):
So in Indiana, the general somebody has not given the
Attorney general criminal jurisdiction. For example, your example about a
teacher or something like that, that would still be the
local prosecutor. That would be local law enforcement that kind
of thing. However, the General Assembly has instructed me to
enforce against any local jurisdictions that are operating a sanctuary
(11:12):
city or school or anything like that. And so that's
that's the nature of this law.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
So if it's up to the local prosecutor in Indianapolis,
that would be Ryan Meares. And we have seen that
that is not somebody who actually thinks that the role
of being a prosecutor means actually prosecuting. Have you spoken
to him about this at all?
Speaker 3 (11:34):
Because of the civil matter, so I wouldn't necessarily speak
to him about you know this, again, the statute that
I'm operating under given to me by.
Speaker 4 (11:42):
The General Assembly have.
Speaker 2 (11:43):
You spoken to him about prosecuting those teachers, those administrators,
those within school districts at ips who don't follow the
letter of the law.
Speaker 3 (11:51):
Well, no, that's my jurisdiction and it's a civil violation.
So and he does criminal law. So no, I wouldn't
have a reason to do that. But there's a million
other things to talk about. Right with regard to the
fact that Indianapolis is one of the worst crime ridden
cities in the US, I think it was right number
one recently, especially per capita, which is the reason I
(12:13):
asked President Trump actually to come in and help out.
Speaker 4 (12:17):
Yeah, I understand, Tony.
Speaker 3 (12:18):
So in Indiana, the Attorney General's office isn't even called
for in our constitution.
Speaker 4 (12:25):
I don't know if you knew that. It's a statutory creation.
Speaker 3 (12:28):
So everything that I can do or not do is
usually prescribed is prescribed in statute. In Indiana, the local
prosecutors and all of them, it doesn't matter really, Republican
or Democrat, are very, very vehemently and jealously protect their
discretion to file criminal charges. They're the only ones in
the state that really can do that. And so in
(12:52):
other states, my counterparts have that I do have criminal
jurisdiction in other states, my counterparts do so, but in
this state I don't. So, you know, I ask for
help where I can get it. I'm still a citizen
of the state. I'm still a taxpayer. I'm still a
leader in the state. And so when you don't have
a prosecutor that cooperates, that doesn't prosecute whole swaths of crimes,
(13:17):
you go to other places ask for help.
Speaker 2 (13:19):
Talking to the Attorney General of Indiana, Todd Rokita, you
did make a statement on social media where you said, hey,
President Trump, send the National Guard here to Indianapolis. We
need it. What has been the response from Governor Brown,
Lieutenant Governor Beckweth, Republicans in the House, in the Senate,
(13:41):
and from the President himself.
Speaker 3 (13:44):
I know we've been talking to the White House a
little bit about it.
Speaker 4 (13:46):
So there's that.
Speaker 3 (13:48):
And I haven't heard anything from Governor Brown, government with
or anyone else really that you mentioned.
Speaker 2 (13:54):
Is it a problem in your view that you're not
hearing from these people or they haven't made this call
for the Trump administration to get involved yet you had
to be the first.
Speaker 4 (14:05):
Well, you know, we're all leaders.
Speaker 3 (14:06):
I'm a state wide elected official and leading. You know,
I saw an issue, waited a little bit to see
if anyone else was going to do anything about it,
and you know, like as you know to you know me,
I don't wait around too long and do what I
can where I can. So we'll see what happens with that.
Speaker 4 (14:23):
There's a lot of federal property here.
Speaker 3 (14:25):
In the city of Indianapolis, and so there's reason for
the president to come. I think he'd be welcomed here,
you know, aside from very local leaders, I think the
state would welcome him here.
Speaker 4 (14:34):
And it's all our it's our capital city, just like Washington,
DC is our capital city. Well so is Indianapolis for
the states.
Speaker 3 (14:39):
So we all have an interest, no matter where we
live in the State of Indiana, we all have an
interest in making sure our capital city is a safe place,
is a place we can all be proud of. It
is a place we can all go to and like
and bring our friends and family members from out of
state here and show off.
Speaker 4 (14:57):
And it's hard to do that right now.
Speaker 2 (15:00):
There's been a lot of conversation about why the state
does not get more involved in the safety and security
of Indianapolis. It has been broached before in the city
leadership quote unquote, the civic leaders and others who have
nothing to say about crime in general will say, hey, State,
leave us alone, this is none of your concern. Are
(15:22):
you a believer that the state should be more involved
in Indianapolis's safety and security and engage a level of
takeover or should the city be engaged in removing the
mayor from such a leadership position and institute a town
council system or a town manager system. I should say
that would leave the mayor to be ceremonial.
Speaker 4 (15:42):
Well, I firmly.
Speaker 3 (15:43):
Believe that the people need to pick their leaders and
they shouldn't be removed.
Speaker 4 (15:47):
Except by the people. So there's that.
Speaker 3 (15:49):
But aside from that, you know, I've watched as a
guy from northwest Indiana who served in a couple of
different state wide offices. Now I've watched this city grow
and and be something that's that punched way above its weight,
and it took decades, and I just cannot believe the
city fathers and mothers and others who built up this
(16:09):
city over the last decades, you know, who associate with
other names like Luger and Hudnut and Goldsmith, wouldn't support
me in this effort to help get this city cleaned up, right.
I mean, so much time, so much money, so much
effort has been put into all this over decades just
to see it go right down a toilet like this,
and we're going to stand by and.
Speaker 4 (16:30):
Say, oh, that's okay.
Speaker 3 (16:31):
It's just those Democrats, that's how they do things. They're
different and poor Joe Hogseett and what absolutely not. And
so that's you know, that's kind of what was going
on in the back of my mind when I put
out the.
Speaker 2 (16:44):
Social media post, Attorney General Todd Rakeita, I appreciate you
taking the time. DAP futures are down one twenty one
NASDAK futures are down one fifty six tony kats ninety
three WIBC. Good morning, good to be with you. And
we still we don't have any numbers, we don't have
any BLS movement because of the government shutdown. Oil prices
(17:09):
fifty nine dollars eighty nine cents on the West Texas
crewed on that Brent crude sixty three dollars and seventy
nine cents. That is the barrel price. The tenure treasury
is still about four percent of four point zero nine
to five gold prices they have been in flux thirty
nine ninety six an ounce three nine hundred ninety six
(17:32):
dollars an ounce, silver up a little bit forty eight
dollars and fifty cents an ounce. If you have family
or you are flying, you better get ready for some delays.
Air traffic controllers are not there, and there is going
to be a real effect, and the Democratic Party is
(17:52):
going to seemingly shockingly, maybe not surprisingly. That's the way
to say. They're gonna take this shutdown as far as
they can, and they will take it into Thanksgiving. And yes,
I've had the conversation, having the conversation with my mother. Yeah,
I have no idea if you're gonna be able to
(18:13):
make it here or not. I have no clue whether
or not you're gonna fly up. And you're gonna have
to have that conversation with Grandma and Mema and pop
up and whatever you call them. Although I will admit
personally I'm opposed to the idea of pop up. I
don't know something about it doesn't work for me. But
who am I. I'm not your pop pop. So you're
gonna have to have those conversations regarding Thanksgiving because this
(18:34):
is coming. There's no end to the government shutdown in sight,
zero less than zero. They want it. This is the
way it's gonna be. As I have promised, or as
I have stated, I won't get worked up by this,
(18:56):
but I do believe there are ways to handle this,
and the Republican Party needs to give a much stronger
response than Speaker Johnson gives. And I think Speaker Johnson
has done an admirable job. But we are now in
a new place, and the new place is listen. We've
passed a continuing resolution fourteen different times. It's clear that
(19:17):
Chuck Schumer's okay with kids starving to death so we
can get political power. We say, screw him and the
horse he rode in on and his raw cheeseburgers. We're
not doing this. The continuing resolution is there. When Senate
Democrats care more about Americans than they do about power,
we'll be there to vote for it. And that's it,
and leave it and leave it. And now you've got
(19:38):
a judge saying that the administration has to fund SNAP
in full, and the administration is saying, how in the
world do we do this? And the Judge's like I
don't care. A judge can order the federal government to
spend money when senators won't vote to spend the money.
Can the judge order the payment of air traffic controllers
on the military as well? Or is it just food benefits?
(20:03):
I think the judges out of their minds. This is
for senators to handle. Are judges running this country? Because
that can't be good because I didn't vote for these judges.
Did vote for representatives, and you did too. But the
way to handle this is to say we've done everything
(20:24):
we can. This is on you. And if you say
to me, well Trump wants to get rid of the philibuster,
you can get rid of the philibuster and pass this.
Do we have any idea what we're opening? There any
idea of what we're opening if we get rid of
the sixty vote threshold? What happens if you lose the Senate? Well,
they're going to do it anyway they might. But what
happens if you've already done it? And what are you
(20:46):
going to get accomplished in the next year? What are
you going to get done? Are you ready? Have you
done the whip counts? You can't just go at this
Willy nilly. You have to have a plan, and I
do not believe the White House has the plan. They've
got an emotion. I don't work on emotions with family.
I work on emotions and I try not to, but
(21:08):
it's family everything else. Have a plan, and the plan
for Democrats is you want dead kids. I think you
are low life scumbags. You want to vote for dead
kids by not voting for a continuing resolution starving kids.
You're disgusting. I wouldn't let you in my house, but
when you come to your senses, we'll be there to
vote for the continuing resolution. Have a nice day. Have
(21:31):
a nice day, by Felicia. I have no idea Republicans
will do it or not. You want to vote for
air traffic controllers to have to work uber jobs. There's
nothing wrong with working an uber job, by the way,
but this is what you want. You want people not
to be with their families, just like you didn't want
them with their families during COVID. You are a disgusting,
(21:52):
ugly party. We'll be there when you get your heads
on straight like John Fetterman, when you start acting more
like John Fetterman, will be right there. Until then, Bah,
that's how it has to happen. It's how it has
to happen. And while this is happening, donate to your
local food pantry. Do it now, do it today. People
(22:16):
are going to suffer. It's going to stay. We have
too many people on these programs. I wholeheartedly agree. That
doesn't mean that everybody on these programs is a bad person.
And I'm not taking it out on them, And I
don't think we as hoosas are we as human beings
should do so your local food bank, if you can,
(22:37):
you give this week and next week and the week after.
People need help. And if Democrats want to be these
disgusting slobs, and if senators of all stripes can't figure
out how to get their act together, well it's gross
and it's a pox on all our houses. But I'm
not gonna let my neighbors starve because of it. That's insane.
(22:59):
That's insane. It's time to play America's favorite game. What
the heck is that television theme song? Here is how
we play? Uh? Producer Carl has picked a television theme
song from yesteryear, and I have to guess what it is. Now.
(23:24):
The problem is this sounds very familiar like this sounds
like it's in like the one Tree Hill kind of category.
Speaker 4 (23:37):
It's a Friday show. What was that Friday is in
the title?
Speaker 2 (23:44):
Yes, yes, and the chatroom got it right. This is
the theme to Friday Night Lights. But they're also because
Matt Bear isn't here today, they're filling the Matt Bear
role and say, well, Tony, that's the theme to the
care Bears. Bra visimo, bra visimo. Well done, well done,
(24:12):
well done, well done. I was on the Sean Spicer
Show yesterday, and now I've got people from Axios clipping
quotes from me because I was talking about Scott Bessent
and not the most positive terms. Two minute responds, I
clipped thirteen seconds. That must be it, guys. So it
goes on Tony Kats today at noon. We're gonna get
(24:33):
into this messaging battle, this messaging conversation and fighting with force.
And it can't be all Trump all the time, and
Trump can't get his way all the time. No, don't
get rid of the filibuster. Yes, leave the shutdown at
Democrats feet and say we're done here and get nasty
(24:57):
about it. Don't be kind, don't be sweet, don't speak
in soft dulcid tones. Hit him, hit him over the head.
See that's what makes Trump so good at this because
he's willing to hit you over the head. And people
are like, that's just so beneath America. Democrats do it
all the time. You set up Paul Ryan, he wants
(25:20):
to push Grandma off a cliff. Sorry, Democrats, you don't
get to you don't get to play the game of well,
you know we're decent. No no, no, no, no no. Well. Also,
I wasn't planning on discussing redistricting, but oh, another poll
(25:42):
shows Hoosier's opposed the Republican redistricting power grab. The power
grab conversations amongst the dopiest conversations out there. And it's
utilized by people who have no idea that we're talking
about something political. Of course, it's about power. Cat's why
California did it, That's why Marilyn's doing it. I'd appreciate it. Everybody,
grow up. It is a tool the left is using
(26:02):
to say we don't want it here because it hurts us.
With all due respect, you lost. Isn't that supposed to
be the answer. Isn't that what I learned from Barack Obama?
You lost, and Republicans have this capability, and it's a
fully legal process, and the people can vote them out
of office. I can think of nothing more natural than
this kind of progression. Is nothing more American than this
(26:24):
kind of progression. Your state legislator does something you don't like,
your vote them out of office. The power grab conversation
is a conversation for ridiculous people who want to throw
a pretend stat in the air and think that it matters.
It isn't utilized by serious people engaged in serious conversation.
It's utilized by people who are very desperate and not
(26:48):
people who are very factual. It's a power grab. You
mean the party in power utilizing the power. Eric Holder said,
if Democrats win the House and the Senate, they should
pack court. He is admitting to utilizing the power. But
if Republicans want to redistrict in the state of Indiana,
that's a power grab. Shut up, and I've got Republicans
(27:12):
feel the air quotes falling for that crap. Pseudo intellectualism
is not something we should aspire to. Oh good gosh.
But I don't know what Republicans are gonna do. I
don't know if they're gonna redistrict or not. I just
listened to the powergraph thing and realized that the Indiana
Democratic Party is full of it. And when I think
(27:34):
back to where I was last week in Vigo County,
in that listening session with Senator Gregory Good, you had
seventy one people speaking against redistrict, and a lot of
people said power grab. They have no idea what they're saying,
no civics engagement whatsoever. They don't understand. Of course, it's
about power, the end to which the Democratic Party is
(27:55):
completely willing to let children starve to get power. Everybody
within the sound of my voice knows that I'm making sense,
but the progressive can't handle it. So they'll now call
me a racist or a bigot, or they'll send some
troll after me. We are making the rational point. When
(28:16):
they engage with power, somehow it's decent. When Republicans do it,
it's somehow it's evil. Could we stop it? I need
people who will pull up their pants, let them drop,
and then abs you know what I mean by let
them drop, because I don't mean the pants, and then
go about saying this is what we're doing. I will
(28:36):
discuss it on Tony kats today at noon. I might
be losing friends, but damn it, I sleep well
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